9/20    I suppose this is just fluff and doesn't mean anything:
        Destruction of the MOTD (by repeated deletion, jive, or any other
        method) is severly frowned upon and will result in the termination of
        your account.
        \_ this hasn't been enforced since the CSUA president decided it
           was a good idea.  -tom
        \_ Hey policy police!  I love you guys!  Where are you when some
           dumbass censors specific people?  -- ilyas
           \_ dick
           \_ I don't support that either. So?
              \_ So where's the outrage and call for squishage then?  Danh
                 pretty much admitted on wall one day to removing only my posts
                 from the motd.  Where are the calls for the squishing of
                 danh?  You are letting me down, policy police guy... -- ilyas
                 \_ if i ever walled "i have been selectively deleting
                    ilyas' posts all day!", i was definitely kidding.
                    you should turn off the computer monitor more often. - danh
                 \_ When did danh say that, and how do you know he was being
                    serious? He also said one time that he was posting
                    freeper articles, but somehow I think he was kidding.
                    \_ A while back.  Search for 'phlegm.'  I am not sure if
                       he was serious of course.  But you know, policy police
                       guy didn't even emit a peep about this, regardless of
                       whether danh was serious or not, and I certainly know
                       my posts get targetted all the time (oddly enough they
                       get targetted a lot less now that I made it clear I will
                       defend myself). -- ilyas
                       \_ "Policy police guy" doesn't follow everything going
                          on. And... did danh admit to "repeatedly" deleting?
                          \_ Policy police guy should be careful lest his
                             zeal be mistaken for hypocrisy. -- ilyas
        \_ Someone likes to delete all political posts.  Someone else is
           deleting everything other than politics in response.  One position
           seems as morally valid as the other.
           \_ Right so terminate both of them. Fact is I think it may be the
              same genius trying to make a point. Doesn't address the issue.
              \_ If anyone seriously gets squished because of the motd, I ll
                 seriously consider trying to get some bigwig at Berkeley
                 to explain to me why Berkeley tolerates all the
                 non-student/teacher/staff people using the network resources.
                 Seeing as it's against Berkeley policy and all...  Perhaps
                 we should all be squished. -- ilyas
                 \_ it is NOT against berkeley policy for alumni to "use the
                    network"; do you think it's against policy to visit the
                    Berkeley home page?  -tom
                    \_ How about copying huge files to soda's /tmp for people
                       to download over and over again? -- ilyas
                       \_ Typical ilyas; make a wildly incorrect assertion,
                          then divert to a red herring when proven wrong. -tom
                          \_ Well gee, tom, why do you think a distinction
                             involving 'students, staff, teachers' was even made
                             in the official policy document?  You must be
                             smarter than them, you should go set them straight.
                             In fact, don't bother, I ll ask them myself, using
                             soda as an example.  -- ilyas
                             \_ Well, unlike you, I was involved with writing
                                that policy, so I know exactly why it is
                                worded the way it is--it was explicitly changed
                                to allow use by alumni.  -tom
                             \_ That's a great idea ilyas.  You should get
                                soda shut down, just to prove a point.
                                \_ So what you are saying is, when the rubber
                                   hits the road, all the whining about policy
                                   is just hypocritical nonsense?  Now can we
                                   all just shut up and get back to bashing
                                   each other's heads in? -- ilyas
                                   all just shut up about policy? -- ilyas
                                   \_ You're right! No more policies at all!
                                      CSUA = libertarian utopia! Let's all try
                                      to hack each other's accounts!
                                      \_ Where's the Boy Who Cried Red Herring?
                                           -- ilyas
                                         \_ Find a mirror, and I'll show you.
                 \_ I think we're all safe since jwang is still around.
                 \_ Alternatively, you could just stop being such a
                    hypocritical little shit. [formatd]
                 \_ What about http://alumni.berkeley.edu? Stop deleting this assmunch
                 \_ For someone who regularily chestpounds about his
                    superior moral reasoning, your moral sensibilities
                    seem pretty slippery to me. It seems like what you
                    are saying here is, "If you don't play with these toys
                    they way I want you to play with them, then I'll go
                    tell the teacher to take all the toys away. Nayah, nayah."
                    \_ I think it's 'nyah nyah.'  Search up for
                       'hypocritical nonsense.'  We all technically violate
                       some policy, I think it's time to stop using 'policy' as
                       a club to bash someone over the head.  Petty
                       bureaucrats do that.  Don't be a petty bureaucrat,
                       they are hated even more than lawyers. -- ilyas
                       \_ the point is, people who trash the MOTD are trashing
                          a public resource; are you arguing that it's OK to
                          trash public resources?  -tom
                          \_ Well, if motd is a 'public resource' then the net
                             to which soda is hooked up is much more so.
                             And I know for a fact some people on soda misuse
                             it.  At any rate, tom, you ve been caught deleting
                             stuff from the motd.  What I am actually saying is,
                             be careful if you are in the business of
                             casting stones. -- ilyas
        \_ If I were to guess this hasn't been enforced since kchang's
           original squishing years ago.  Is that right?