7/7     Someone posted some decent headhunters a while back. I'm in NYC but
        want to relocate to Cali (preferably SoCal, NoCal ok too). Can someone
        repost that list? thanks.
        \_ There are no decent head hunters.  Just HHs that are slightly less
           scummy than others.  They'd all screw you and give you aids for
           a chance at half a penny.  They're in the business of buying and
           selling people.  Think about that.
           \_ Second that.  Crocodiles aren't evil, but they will kill and
              eat you--it's just in their nature.  I have _never_ met a
              head hunter who understood (or was really interested) in placing
              me in a job that matched my skillset or interests.  Best way
              to find something good is through contacts.  -John
           \_ They are as useful (or not) as a real estate agent.  Some are
              anyone with anything more than 6 months old. -mel
              very good.  Others are dumber than Davis.
              \_ And like real estate agents all of them will fuck you if you
                 give them half a chance.  You can resell your house.  Your
                 career only continues forward building on the past for better
                 or for worse.  Your career is at least as important and maybe
                 more so than your house.
                 \_ I had a decent real estate agent, one that did not
                    pressure me into over bidding and also helped me
                    by letting me know when a house I was interested
                    in came back on the market. Then again, this was
                    his first sale and he had been an agent for less
                    than a year, so maybe he hadn't learned yet.
                    \_ Clearly he was new and you probably lost out on many
                       ways to fuck the seller because of it.  If he isn't
                       helping you fuck the other party you paid for nothing.
              worked at sapient for the last 4 years. fwiw,
              he went: engineer -> lead eng -> project manager... -abe
                       He provided no services.  In what way was his fee worth
                       anything to you?
        \_ Sign your name.  There are a few hiring managers who read the motd,
           and the valley is starting to hire again in earnest. -hiring manager
           \_ whoah! does this mean things are finally turning around?
              -3000 miles from Valley
              \_ no they aren't.  sorry.  check the bay area job listings
                 online.  sucking.
           \_ /usr/local/csua/pub/jobs is a start if you can ignore all the
              old postings.  Come to think of it, I'll go send nag mail to
              anyone with anything more than 6 months old and post one of
              my own I need to hire  -mel
           \_ actually, i was posting for a friend of mine. he has five+
              years experience, worked at a few startups, and has
              worked at sapient for the last 4 years. he's looking for a
              product/project manager position. -abe