Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 42866
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2006/4/30-5/4 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:42866 Activity:nil
4/30    Whipped up a quick python script to bring wallall into the world of
        RSS! Point your readers (including Safari!) at
        http://csua.berkeley.edu/wallrss.cgi
        and enjoy some inane fun...
        --michener
        \_ The undergrads rock!  Moving soda off of FreeBSD was the best thing
           to happen to the CSUA in years!
           \_ that is the OS of sysadmins, and people who run ISPS.  Not
              exactly the sort that encourage new thinking/memes.  how long
              did it take for cardbus to be put into freebsd... anyway glad
              to see ppl are doing neat things.
        \_ This (and thus wall logs)may be accessible by google now.
                 \- pp inquiry: if freebsd is the "sysadmin/isp os" how
                    would you characterize linux?
              \_ This is silly.  All of the data on soda being deleted and
                 starting from scratch w/ a fresh FreeBSD install would have
                 had the same effect.  Linux doesn't "encourage new thinking"
                 in its users.
                 \_ They infact did this, soda was first paved over with
                    some bsd, but no one stepped forth to port stuff. Look
                    Linux in general has  "encouraged new thinking" hence it
                    supports more HW, has more drivers, and a larger user base.
                    \_ Really?  The source, filesystems, data, everything gone?
                       I don't remember that.
                 \_ #f.  The undergrads are porting old CSUA utils that
                    haven't been touched in years.  That's gotten them making
                    new software, like the wall -> rss tool michener rolled.
                    I think that's cool.  Don't you?
                    \_ When Soda was reinstalled with FreeBSD several years
                       ago, the stupid custom scripts from Dynix were
                       ported to FreeBSD.  We're not talking rocket
                       science here.  wall_hosers, wall, nwrite, whatever.
                       I'm sure most stuff will get ported to Linux
                       eventually.  To arbitrarily say "When FreeBSD
                       was installed all development stopped, but
                       now that we have Linux the undergrads have
                       have a new burst of creativity and productivity
                       by letting fucking google crawl the wall log"
                       is stupid.
                       \_ What exactly is arbitrary about the statement?
                          Please point me to the 1337 archives of software
                          that were written by CSUA undergrads between 1997
                          and 2005.  An undergrad took an existing CSUA
                          commmunity tool and extended it to make it available
                          via current technology, in this case, RSS.  What,
                          exactly, is your problem with that?  That it changes
                          things?  That it makes soda no longer your personal
                          playground where you make the rules?  Deal with it.
                          What part of Computer Science UNDERGRADUATE
                          Association don't you understand?
        \_ This (and thus wall logs) may be accessible by google now.
           Caveat emptor.
           \_ Not "caveat wallor"?
           \_ And this is bad, why?  Because it cracks open our insulated
              little sandbox to the world?
              \_ Paolo, why do you hate my sandbox? - danh
              \_ not bad. it just IS. I'm telling people so they know.
                 Good or Bad are niceties I don't have the time for. Cheers.
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edu</link> <description> Go away GoogleBot, we don't want you here. edu</link> <description> perhaps we should use the term stalkerbots, since well, google insn't the only search engine with spiders... edu</link> <description> If you want to make wall more accessible, how about restoring port 9255? Before the reinstall, walls were printed to port 9255, so you could connect to it without logging in and receive read-only access to wall.