1/29    I want an IPv4 address block (/24 is good enough). ARIN charges
        $2,500 in addition to regular membership. Any other cheaper places?
        \_ many isp's will allocate you a decent size block if you give them
           a good reason, esp if you are a hicap customer. recently i had an
           isp route a /24 for an additional $100 on top of their normal
           monthly charges for a T1.. which was about $1500... of course the
           cost for that T1 varies HEAVILY by the provider (big guys like
           Internap charge much more than cut-rate ones) -shac
        \_ ask your upstream ISP
           \_ How much does this go for?
              \_ Varies dramatically by ISP based on the total service
                 package.  My company has 64 addresses and a 32 rack cage for
                 about $25k/month.  YMWV.
        \_ Also, your ISP might charge you to manage that /24, no?
        \_ i get 14 IPs on 1.1 SDSL for $179.  supposedly they'll give me
           more IPs but i haven't quite needed them.
        \_ Do you want to own the block?  This is necessary if you want to
           be portable (i.e. change upstream ISP without renumbering) or
           multihomed (multiple upstream ISPs).  Most ISPs will offer at
           least a /24 along with real connectivity (T1 or greater) at little
           or no cost, shac's figure of $100 on top of transit sounds
           reasonable.  In order to obtain a block from ARIN, you have to
           jump through a number of hoops which can be a pain.  I strongly
           suggest you get someone who has successfully obtained IP space from
           ARIN in the past to assist you with this.  Their is also a gray
           market for IP address space.  You'll still have to obtain an AS,
           and the transfer will have to go through ARIN, RIPE or one of
           the other regional equivalents, but this is often cheaper and
           more expedient than going directly through ARIN. -dans
           \_ gray market?  how so?  is the transfer not legal?