2/23 To all the CS graduates, how much do you like your job? What exactly
are you working on? Would you recommend CS? -sophomore declaring
Screw this loser, read the reply after my friend:
\_ Go into it for the money. The cock suckers talking about doing it
for the love of it exist in every field. Do it for the money for
a few years so you can afford to do whatever you want for the love
of it for the rest of your life without worrying about the rent,
mortgage payments, car payments, children's educations, or how to
pay the electric bill and put food on the table. The idealists
are fools throwing away their youth. These are the same people
who will be voting every year for a socialist government to take
care of them in their old age because they "lived life for the
pure pleasure of it". They think of themselves as some sort of
counter culture heros. I think of them as leeches. Go for the
money, sonny.
\_ Hrm. I disagree with you on several points. Starving to death
so you can do something that you love is just plain silly and
as far as I can see, you're the only one suggesting such a thing.
The most common thread here is that you'll be very unhappy doing
something that you hate -- been there, done that, and it ain't
worth it. Second of all, you seem to be implying that by doing
CS for the money you will deterministically become rich and THEN
be able to go on and do something that you love. That's just
absurd. Thirdly, associating someone that enjoys their
work with a political philosophy or moral standpoint is, at
best, illogical (I myself tend to be pro-gun, pro-death
penalty -- pretty far from what most people would think of as
liberal or left-wing). You can think of them as leeches, but
if you were really *reading* anything anyone was saying, you'd
have noted that we were all talking about being *employed* and
enjoying our work. Of course, this could just be an idiotic
troll and I'm wasting my breath taking you seriously. -mice
\_ don't listen to this angry, cynical asshole. i know a pharmacist
who's been working in the field for the past 20 years. she
makes at least a consistent $100K a year. That's more than enough
to survive on. but you know what? she hates the work. and
she complains about how much it sucks. and how it goes on and
on for 8+ hours a day. don't get stuck in a job that you don't
like...it's like a slow, minute by minute death. do what you like,
but decide if you are going to make the sacrifice. do you have any
idea how boring and stupid the guy above sounds? you are born, you
grow up, go to school, get married, fuck, have kids, work,
retire, then die. There are millions who do the same damn
mindless pattern of merely living to pass on their dna. you can
probably much better than this if your aspirations are in the right
place.
\_ take cs61 series. if you can't hack it, then it's a moot point.
if you're already beyond that, then it's cs162 and cs164 that
will tell you if you want to be CS or not
\_ I love my job. I mostly do distributed system programming.
The only way I can recommend CS as a major is if you've tried
at least one CS class and *REALLY* enjoyed the work -- if
you're thinking of declaring CS strictly for the money, you'll
probably be pretty unhappy. -mice
\_ Agreed. If you're doing CS for the money, you're doing it
for the wrong reason. You won't make the kind of money you
hear about ("overnight millionaires") unless you truly have
a passion for it. A passion that drives you to learn more and
more and more until you truly have much Fu. Moral: Do what
excites you. --sowings
\_ gee, really? I heard some guy in a diner tell me that
his daughter was finishing her masters in CS and southern
connecticut state university so she could work in
"sillycone valley", where they pick you up in a limmo
at the airport, give you a private cook, and pay you several
hundred thousand a year automatically. "That's how
they are out in California," he told me. Shit. Sign
me up.
-lives a long way from silicon valley
\_ Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight -Dr. Evil
\_ no, really, i really heard a guy said that,
and i'm pretty sure the poor guy belived it.
\_ Not questioning whether or not he said it
but he's just not evil enough. He's the
margarine of evil. -Dr. Evil
\_ are feeling okay there? you seem a little piqued.
\_ you were confused. He was actually referring to
"Silicone Valley", where all that happens if you have
nice tits, and you show them to the right people.
Which in Grammy-speak, means "everyone".
\_ hey, I declared Chem Engineering 'for the money' and wound up
doing computer/networking work for more! -ERic
\_ I was MSME and I wound up working at Cisco. I didn't
get into networking for the money though, it was just
more interesting than Mat. Sci.. The money hasn't been
\_ just a comment for the record that has nothing to
do with this thread: materials science may not be
that neat now, but in the next couple decades it
will see the same kinds of amazing progression that
computer science has in the last few decades, mark
my words. In twenty five years mat. sci. will be just
as exciting as CS is now, and it will bear very little
resemblance to what is currently called materials
science.
\_ Just one word of advice, son, "Plastics".
bad though. I'm not sure I would have liked CS at Cal,
since I found that the undergrad CS classes don't really
teach you CS.
\_ uh-huh...
\_ I took some of the 1xx classes and a couple of
of the 2xx (grad) classes at Cal along with several
2xx (grad) classes at Stanford and found that
the *real* stuff is taught only in the grad coures.
\_ which 1xx courses?
\_ Sure, but you like computers, ERic. I have taken classes
with CS majors who declared how much they hated computers
(and not the right-after-something-won't-compile "i hate
computers") and thought they (computers) would be the
downfall of modern civilization, but they figured they'd
make some money off them while they could. I feel a PHB
in someone's future. I wonder if I'll even want to be in
the computer industry in 5 years when all of the current
CS ugrads who are in it for the money graduate and come
looking for jobs. <sob>
\_ CS ugrads who are in it only for the money are
nothing new - they've been around for many years
\_ Maybe so, but there has been a much greater
influx of them recently. --sowings
\_ Agreed, but this is nothing that can't be
remedied with a couple of shotguns. -dans
\_ .45
\_ shotguns. yuk yuk. you are so kewl
\_ Shotgun is a weapon of a peasant.
.45! .45! .45 is the STANDARD!
Subsonic one-shot-drop-dead caliber.
\_ Idiot.
\_ NATO knave.
\_ NATO nothing. Fuck that
pussy subsonic .45 shit.
.454 baby. *THAT'S* a man's
caliber.
\_ Casull?
\_ I don't want the round
passing through.
\_ the economics of our world today make life impossible,
especially this area, don't you all think? *sigh*
\_ Everything in here is wrong except the bits about
"thousand", "materials", and "everyone". |
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