3/19 I was watching this really gay guy dancing in Tchaikovsky's ballet
with my girlfriend and it was a) quite a torture and b) it turns
out that this really gay guy is Barishikov and he's *not* gay and
that is totally fucked up. No wonder people hate classical music.
\_ Are you a homophoebe? Are you jealous that those guys have bigger
pecks and penis than you?
\_ Barishnikov fled the Soviet Union and gave up everything in his
life to be the greatest in the world at what he does. He's more
of a man than you'll ever be. Read up on him, fag-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryshnikov
\_ the greatest in the world at being a fag maybe. ahahahah!
\_ It's funny. Reading the above post, I thought Baryshnikov
resembles the character portrayed in the film White Nights which
I saw 20yrs ago. Only after reading the wiki page did I realize
that he was actually the actor playing that character in the
film. -- OP
\_ I'll take the bait. Ballet is only one category of classical music.
I hate ballet but I love Chopin's piano pieces, for example.
Besides, Tchaikovsky was supposedsly gay.
\- i like lots of classical, some opera, but i hate ballet too.
it would be improved if men wore mumus. when i went to see
swan lake there were they a large number of teenagers sitting
in the row behind me ... the girls were clearly dancers but
there were all these boys who were super into it ... i think
they were proto gays. i think some women pay just to see the
men's asses and package. it was horrible. i started texting
\_ Why don't they just go watch the Chippendales? Cheaper,
and I assume the guys are better looking?
\- maybe they dont feel guity/dirty and they
like the stupid story. there is nothing worse
that thinking you're at the lake scene 90% of
the way through when you realize you're at the
other lake scene 40% of the way through. etc.
"help me" to friends. that really pissed off my companion.
actually maybe i was texting "help me" at the intermission in
tristan and isolde and texted "kill me" from the ballet.
\_ Without opera, there would be no metal as we know it, and
without metal, life would not be worth living. Go opera!
\_ Was that the T&I from like 8 years ago? God, that was
dreadful.
\- this was the dredful T&I last yr. the only reason i went
was 1. i liked the person who invited me 2. to
to see the DAVID HOCKNEY designed set, which was
pretty neat ... but not for 5 hours ... in german.
http://www.hockneypictures.com/tristan.htm
btw, you run into some interesting people at the opera:
sat next to george shultz for one act [then he left?],
also old chancellor heyman etc.
\_ Nutcracker: fell asleep 15 minutes in, woke up 2 minutes before it
ended. Victory!
\_ Finally saw Nutcracker for Xmas 2005. Actually enjoyed it. Still
have utterly no interest in seeing it or any other ballet again.
On a similar note, saw Rigoletto outside in SF Civic Center;
couldn't make it past Act 1. OTOH, saw Don Giovanni at the Met,
and that was pure gold. Hm, do you think I'd like Wagner?
\- The Ring is kind of a fascinating spectacle and if the sets
arent pretty cool, you've been ripped off. and if you like
mythology or D&D/LOTR type fatasies, it's a pretty good
story. But man, some of them, liek T&I, nothing happens ...
the only think that happens in the long last act of T&I is
story. But man, some of them, like T&I, nothing happens ...
the only thing that happens in the long last act of T&I is
a ship arrives and people die. I am not exaggerating. Avoid
Russian Opera at all costs. safe operas to see: mozart,
carmen maybe, aida maybe, fidelio, the ring, maybe some
more verdi, masked ball not too bad, die fledermaus maybe,
barber of seville is ok but NdF is much better. maybe a few
others, but most of them are in "kill me now" territory.
and some of the productions have a serious WTF factor ... like
the chubby middle aged jeanne d' arc last year who was
burned at the stake [thank god, it cant go on much longer]
and was turned into a little asian girl.
Russian Opera at all costs.
\_ As someone who dates a ballet dancer and who knows a lot of male
(but mostly female) dancers from her circle of friends, you are
missing one of the great reasons to watch ballet. Forget about
the men. Watch the women. There are far more of them and they
all have beautiful bodies. Even if you do not appreciate the
art and its difficulty, how can you not be interested in lots
of beautiful and athletic half-naked women? Ballet originally
appealed to a prurient interest before it was elevated to a
fine art and it still does. Dancers are perhaps not
full-figured like Anna Nicole Smith, but lots of them do have
figures despite the emphasis on being thin and bony. In a
professional company, they are typically over 18 as well, so
don't worry about that. Plus, they are surrounded by about 50%
gay men, which is a good thing if you think about it.
\_ Sorry, but child-like women in child-like pajama-style
clothes doesn't excite my prurient interest. I'll just
flip through penthouse or playboy or watch network TV.
\_ You're an idiot.
\_ You're an idiot.
\_ I thought female ballet dancers all have daikon legs.
\_ Meaning what?
\_ Ugly legs that look like daikon.
\_ Yes, dancers all have ugly legs. That's the point
of the whole thing - to have ugly legs. Are you
fricking kidding? The whole point of ballet is to
have beautiful legs and show them off. The tutu
is specifically made to show the entire leg and
to have nice lines. Dancers are not gymnasts.
Strength is important, but appearance is more so.
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