8/19    I hate people who put "The" in front of our school name, like:
        "The University of California, Berkeley"
        \_ Kind of like: "Take The 580 to The 5 to The 405 to The..."
        \_ Kind of like: "Take the 580 to the 5 to the 405 to the..."
           but not really...
           \_ it's not a capitalized The and it's not part of the name. Duh.
        \_ That's the name.  Duh.
           \_ it's not a capitalized the and it's not part of the name. Duh.
              \_ Whether or not it's a part of the name is irrelevant since
                 the word in question is what's known as an "article," and
                 is normally placed before such names.  What really gets to
                 \_ you proved my point. There are some idiots who
                    write "The U..." on things like applications, resumes,
                 me is how people say "the University of California at
                    sentence, and even then you use "the" not "The".
                 Berkeley" instead of "the University of California, Berkeley."
                    Nothing wrong with multiple names, just not "The U..."
                    \_ If The University uses it on official documents then
                       it _is_ official.  I think The University gets to
                 \_ you proved my point. there are some idiots who
                    write "the U..." on things like applications, resumes,
                    or .signatures?! When you do use "the" it is only in a
                    sentence, and even then you use "the" not "the".
        \_ LA refers to roads as 'the 405 freeway,' or the 405.  The
                    And both "," and "at" are valid, even UC uses both.
                    Nothing wrong with multiple names, just not "the U..."
                    \_ If the University uses it on official documents then
                       it _is_ official.  I think the University gets to
                       decide what is official and what is not.  Not random
                       wanna-be-english-major know-it-alls on the motd.
           The University of California at Berkeley.
        \_ Likewise for people who put "the" in front of Bay Area freeway
           names, or "BART." This isn't L.A.!
                \_ Because The University gets to have everything both ways.
        \_ LA refers to roads as 'the 405 freeway,' or the 405.  the
           \_ It's actually the University of California. The Berkeley is
           Bay refers to it as 'Highway 80,' or 80.  It's that simple.
           \_ Actually it's 'Interstate 80,' not 'Highway 80.'
        \_ Jeff graduated from University of California sounds FOBish.
           What are you talking about? Henry graduated from the University
           of California. Sounds normal.
        \_ It's actually ' at ' instead of ', '.
           the University of California at Berkeley.
           \_ It's actually both.  No one loses.  Everybody wins! :D
              \_ I've been told it was ',' and not 'at.'  How can it be both?
                \_ Because the University gets to have everything both ways.
                   \_ ok, you've got a pretty good point here
           \_ It's actually the University of California. the Berkeley is
              implied.