4/6 Boy, you thought the suburbs sucked? Try the exurbs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/realestate/keymagazine/406ariz-t.html
\_ What are you getting at? This article seems to be mostly about
being the 'sucker' in the housing shell game.
\_ What I learned from this article that this is yet another
example of a dumb blond. How about you? -Asian
\_ The bits I found most interesting:
"They happily left space in subdivisions for playgrounds and
five new elementary schools, which they thought would help
bring in the young families they were targeting, but they did not
leave space for parks for older kids or for a high school."
"In 2005, the local school district appointed a
superintendent, John Flores, who began pleading with the
developers for space for a high school (for a while,
Maricopa schools were admitting 300 new students every
month). But it was to no avail. Amy Haberbosch, Maricopa's
former director of planning, told me that developers
believed high schools lowered property values; she said one
developer told her he'd rather build a jail on his property
than a high school."
\_ Well, I think they're right about the high schools, from their
own narrow perspecitve. It is evidence of their narrow focus
on building homes they think people will buy rather than
building a community.
\_ I've lived near Berkeley High. I'd much prefer that to
living next to a jail. But more importantly it made
it clear just how fucked people who moved to the boonies
because "it's better for the kids" are going to be in 5
years. Especially when they can't afford to move because
the market has melted.
\_ Berkeley High isn't much better than a jail.
\_ Wait, let me guess... because there are black
people there?
\_ No, because there are criminals there. My gf
worked at a store on Shattuck and a Berkeley
High student worked with her. He would tell her
which guys were packing, which people were
stealing, which people could be confronted and
which were dangerous, and so on. Yes, they were
all black, but I think that's an issue you
raised first.
\_ Guess what, there are criminals in the world.
Even in suburban high schools.
\_ There are more criminals concentrated
in urban high schools than just about
anywhere else except maybe jail, which is
why they lower property values.
\_ Any evidence for this statement?
\_ Other than college campuses (which
self-select a sample) where else do
you find a few thousand adolescent
males (most likely to commit crimes)
in one place?
\_ So, the answer is no, I take it?
There are probably many more criminals
at Vallejo High than Lowell,
for example.
\_ Provide a counterexample of
a place other than prison
that has a higher concentration of
criminals than our high schools:
Just one. Lowell vs. Vallejo is a
tangent.
\_ No, it is not a tangent because
you said "urban" high schools.
The counter-example is easy:
any public housing project
anywhere in the country.
\_ Okay, I'll accept that
example. So we have
jail, public housing,
and high schools.
Anything else?
\_ I am having a tough time
coming up with anything.
\_ So, how does it feel to be an idiot racist? |
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