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2014/1/27-2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:54766 Activity:nil
1/27    PROGRESSIVE KRISTALLNACHT
        \_ Great name for a punk band.
2016/09/27 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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2014/1/24-2/5 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:54765 Activity:nil
1/24    "Jimmy Carter's 1977 Unpleasant Energy Talk, No Longer Unpleasant"
        link:www.csua.org/u/128q (http://www.linkedin.com
2014/1/21-2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:54764 Activity:nil
1/21    Looks like http://camps.berkeley.edu got owned by spammers.
2014/1/14-2/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:54763 Activity:nil
1/14    Why is NULL defined to be "0" in C++ instead of "((void *) 0)" like in
        C?  I have some overloaded functtions where one takes an integer
        parameter and the other a pointer parameter.  When I call it with
        "NULL", the compiler matches it with the integer version instead of
        the pointer version which is a problem.  Other funny effect is that
        sizeof(NULL) is different from sizeof(myPtr).  Thanks.
        \_ In C, a void pointer is implicitly convertable to any other pointer
           type, so (void *)0 works in any context where you need a pointer.
           C++ doesn't allow that conversion, because it isn't typesafe.
           (That's why you can write "int *p = malloc(4)" in C but not in C++.)
           Unfortunately, there's no simple equivalent of (void *)0 that works
           in C++.  Recent C++ compilers have added a new keyword "nullptr"
           that does the right thing, but they've avoided defining NULL to it
           so they don't break old code.  --mconst
2013/12/28 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:54760 Activity:nil
12/28   Happy holidays everyone.
        For some reason my work's ip address gets logged in /etc/hosts.deny and\
I cannot ssh in anymore from work
        (except from home where I can ssh in fine): anyone knows if this file is\
 auto-generated due to some event? Thanks
2013/12/21-2014/2/5 [Computer/SW] UID:54759 Activity:nil
12/21   I was laid off and started filing for EDD for my weekly pay.
        I just got a job. Is there a form I need to file, or do I just
        stop filing out EDD to get my weekly pay? As a side note, how
        do they actually know I am working or not?
        \_ You just stop filing and they stop paying; you don't need to do
           anything else.  I don't know the internals of how they do things,
           but it seems pretty obvious that if you started having state
           income taxes withheld from your paychecks while continuing to draw
           EDD benefits, they should be able to notice that pretty easily.
2013/12/18-2014/2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:54758 Activity:nil
12/18   I am a dogecoin millionaire!
2013/12/13-2014/2/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:54757 Activity:nil
12/17   http://axonflux.com/5-quotes-by-the-creator-of-php-rasmus-lerdorf
        Why I love PHP.

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        \_ I think I just did.  Receipt please?
2013/11/18-2014/2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:54753 Activity:nil
11/18   Anyone used Bloodhound (supposed to be like Trac,but without the suck)?
2013/10/28-2014/2/5 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:54751 Activity:nil
10/28   Oracle software to blame for Obamacare website debacles:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs
        \_ Larry Ellison is a secret Tea Party supporter.
           Most of this article is bunk, btw. Boy are the Republicans
           getting desperate.
            \_ Umm, no.  Larry Ellison is a not so secret fascist.
               \_ I thought he was a big Democrat?
2013/10/24-11/21 [Uncategorized] UID:54750 Activity:nil
9/17    http://ruminate.net/tmp//jailbreak_detected-20130918-153316.jpg
2013/10/24-11/21 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:54749 Activity:nil
9/18    -------------------------
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2013/10/24-11/21 [Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:54747 Activity:nil
9/19    "No, A Severed Finger Will Not Be Able to Access a Stolen iPhone 5S"
        http://mashable.com/2013/09/15/severed-finger-iphone-5s
        I'm sure the Apple QA department has tested extensively that a severed
        finger will not be able to access a stolen iPhone 5S.
        \_ It doesn't matter whether or not a severed finger can be used.  It
           matters whether or not a robber thinks that a severed finger can be
           used.
           \_ You don't even need a severed finger.
              http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid
              \_ My concern is more simple that this.  My wife can just wait
                 for me to fall asleep, and grab my hand to unlock my phone
                 and find pictures of me and all my mistresses! -- OP
2013/10/24-2014/2/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW] UID:54746 Activity:nil
9/26    I remember there was web version of the motd with search function
        (originally due to kchang ?).  The last time I used it it was hosted
        on the csua website but I can't remember its url (onset of dementia?)
        now. Can somebody plz post it, tnx.
        \_ http://csua.com
           \_ for some reason I couldn't log in since Sept and the archiver
              stopped archiving. Collin has since then fixed the problem.
              It's working again, thanks Collin!                -kchang
2013/10/24-11/8 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:54744 Activity:nil
9/30    Tesla Model S earned 5.4 stars on the NHTSA's 5-star safety test.
        http://www.csua.org/u/11bw (theweek.com)
        The only problem is that it's so expensive.
        \_ I am buying one. -dotcom millionaire
2013/10/24-11/8 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:54742 Activity:nil
10/4    NY bike gang's own video footage at 0:20-0:27 shows that they
        intentionally blocked and stopped the SUV:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukdkgLYYbw&feature=player_embedded
        Yet they still have the gut to cry victim.  Geez!
        \_ Yeah, after being hit and run, someone tried to stop the cager,
           who then commited assualt with a deadly weapon. Does someone
           blocking you give you the right to run them over? I think not.
           \_ Hit and run before the time of the clip?  Evidence please?
           \_ Next time when you and your wife and kid are ganged up by a
              known mob of 50+ with 50+ deadly weapons (your logic) who are
              trying to open your car door, please stay put.
        \_ They even dragged the wife out of the car.  http://www.csua.org/u/11e9
        \_ Want some "explanation" from the punk who cut off the SUV?
           http://preview.tinyurl.com/kn8kygx
           \_ You mean, legally and safely changed lanes before being hit
              from behind by the rich asshole entitled Range Rover driving
              douchebag who was following too close.
              \_ Did you actually watch the video?
        \_ http://www.csua.org/u/11f1
           "New video has surfaced of the same bike crew surrounding and
           attacking another car earlier in the day."
        \_ ^SUV^$100,000 Range Rover
2013/10/24-2014/2/5 [Computer/SW/Apps, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:54741 Activity:nil
10/4    Where is the CSUA IRC channel?
        \_ on freenode, it is rad, you should join us -ausman
2013/10/24-2014/2/5 [Recreation/Dating] UID:54740 Activity:nil
10/9    I'm a white guy who is with an Asian (mainland China) girl for the
        first time. We were having sex and when she was really enjoying
        herself she started yelling: "Fuck the chink out of me!"
        I tried not to laugh, but now (it's been a few days) I find it a
        little disturbing. What kinda issues does this girl have or should
        I ignore it cuz it's crazy talk during sex?
        \_ Just because her choice of words is not PC, it doesn't mean she has
           an issue.  Besides, it's just crazy talk during sex anyway.  Thanks
           for sharing your sex life BTW.
           \_ I'd never tell her to "Fuck the white out of me!" Is it some
              sort of self-hatred?
              \_ If she screams "Punish me!  I'm a bad girl!", does it mean she
                 hates herself?  Stop thinking too much and just enjoy it, as
                 long as everything is consensual.
              \_ Every woman has issues. So does every guy, it turns out. As
                 long as they don't cause you problems, what difference does it
                 make? It does sound like she needs therapy though.
        \_ If you decide to dump her, give me her number please.
        \_ How did date #2 go?
        \_ do you use a condom?
        \_ Did you catch any diseases?
        \_ Did you take any pictures?
        \_ Next time ask her to talk dirty to you while you make love and see what
           happens.
        \_ Which hole(s)?
2013/9/14-11/21 [Uncategorized] UID:54739 Activity:nil
9/12    What happened to all the home directories?  /home is empty.
        \_ They're in the cloud now.
2013/9/3-11/21 [Reference/Law/Court] UID:54737 Activity:nil
9/3     "NY case puts N-word use among blacks on trial"
        http://www.csua.org/u/114a (news.yahoo.com)
2013/9/2-11/7 [Reference/Tax] UID:54736 Activity:nil
9/2     I'm young, and stupid. Does the IRS want reporting on 401K, IRA,
        Roth 401k/IRA? I am decades from retiring, and no plan to withdraw
        anything. But, I just realized that I haven't reported any of my
        retirement plans to IRS for several years, now wondering if I'm
        in big shit...
        \_ The account custodian (bank/brokerage/mutual fund) reports it to
           the IRS anyway.  Just start doing it from now on.
           Use TurboTax or a professional. Not a big deal like misreporting income
           or failing to pay tax.
           Use TurboTax or a professional. Not a big deal like misreporting
           income or failing to pay tax.
           \_ ok cool THANK YOU! You're right, it's not like I'm failing
              to pay taxes. I'm guess this kind of stuff is more important
              as I approach retirement in a few decades.
2013/8/30-11/21 [Uncategorized] UID:54735 Activity:nil
8/30    Hugo+Rosenberg, Brin+Anne -> Hugo+Xiaomi, Brin+Rosenberg, Anne+???
2013/8/29-11/7 [Finance/Banking] UID:54734 Activity:nil
8/29    Applying for a home loan now. The loan officer keeps asking why
        I wrote large amounts of check, and what they're for, and fax
        her proof to support what I said. She said loan regulations have
        tightened a lot to prevent money laundry. What is the max amount
        of money I can transfer these days without triggering annoying
        audits? I am not a terrorist.
        \_ Banks have to file a SAR for any amount over $10k.
           \_ What if I do a couple of $10k a day? Is that ok?
              \_ Not only will that still trigger the reporting, it's illegal.
                 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structuring
              \_ Just do 10k/day
                 \_ See above: this is illegal, and also probably won't work.
                    \_ How about bitcoins?
           \_ Does that include transferring between accounts owned by my
              and/or my wife, all of which in US institutions?
        \_ from the aspect of loan approval, they just want to make sure
           you aren't playing funny games like making private unreported
           loans or trying to artificially increase your apparent assets by
           shuffling money around.
2013/8/22-10/28 [Computer/Companies/Yahoo, Industry/SiliconValley] UID:54732 Activity:nil
8/22    http://marketingland.com/yahoo-1-again-not-there-since-early-08-56585
        Y! is back to #1! Marissa, you are SEXY!!!
        \_ how the heck do you only have 225M uniq vis/month when there
           are over 1 billion internet devices out there?
           \_ You think that every single Internet user goes to Y!?
        \_ Tall blonde skinny pasty, not my type at all -former Y!
        \_ Tall blonde skinny pasty, not my type at all. But she
           is a good CEO. -former Y!
        \_ http://www.businessinsider.com/marissa-mayer-biography-2013-8?op=1x
           Y! is coming back hard and strong. Amazing, simply amazing...
2013/8/20-10/28 [Uncategorized] UID:54731 Activity:nil 61%like:54730
8/20    Anyone else here go to Burning Man in 1997? A friend
        is doing a story about BM and wanted some quotes from
                people other than just me if possible. -ausman
        \_ who the hell remembers 1997, esp. after all the weed?
        \_ I first went around then, but dont remember if it was exactly 1997.\
           It was the last year when they didn't fence it all off and keep
           people from driving around.   It was a blast then, but,
           unfortunately, there were tragic accidents.  Some idiots just ruin
           it all for the rest of us.  -ERic
2013/8/20 [Uncategorized] UID:54730 Activity:nil 61%like:54731
8/20    Anyone else here go to Burning Man in 1997? -ausman
2013/8/19-10/28 [Uncategorized] UID:54729 Activity:nil
8/19    <DEAD>demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html<DEAD>
        So blue, yet, so yellow...
        \_ So slow.
2013/8/16-10/28 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:54728 Activity:nil
8/16    I just left my employer. They didn't ask to get their HW back.
        Is is common for employers to contact me a few months/years later
        and ask for their HW back?
        \_ Is it an iPhone 9 prototype? :-)
           \_ as a matter of fact, it is just a 2 year old laptop
              and they don't seem to keep track of inventor
        \_ You're responsible for returning your employer's property when you
           leave.  Consider the downside of them realizing it's missing and
           taking legal action (unlikely, but it does happen).  Is a two year
           old laptop worth *that*?  Granted, that's a worst-possible-outcome.
           \_ how much does a 2 year old laptop depreciate by? how much does
              it cost to start a lawsuit?
              \_ How much is your reputation worth? I worked at a failing
                 startup where a number of employees stole equipment.
                 I can guarantee you that they will never get a job at
                 any company I am working at.
              \_ You've misunderstood.  It's not the cost of a lawsuit.  It's
                 the cost to swear out a criminal complaint, and that's near
                 zero.  If a former employer wants to be a hardass about this,
                 they report the equipment stolen, swear out a complaint, the
                 police get a search warrant, and come looking for it.  If they
                 find it, it's a criminal case against you, not a civil case.
                 So it doesn't cost your employer *anything*.  It might not
                 even be your former manager, just some beancounter in finance.
                 In the case of failed startups, it's the outsourced
                 liquidation specialists (Diablo Management and their ilk).
                 \_ how about this scenario: They don't find anything in your
                    house. Someone blogs about it. It gets on Techcrunch and
                    Business Insider. Now the company is forever known as the
                    fucking lame vindictive asshole that nobody wants to work for.
                    fucking lame vindictive asshole that nobody wants to work
                    for.
                    \_ Still not worth the risk to me.  The value of stealing
                       a two year old laptop is less than a day's pay.  That's
                       an absurd amount of risk for such a small payoff.
                       \_ According to taxman, equipments write-off depreciation
                          is about 20% a year over 5 years. So a $3000 laptop
                          is worth about $1800 after 2 years. You make that
                          much in a day? You serious?
                          \_ 20% a year is not realistic for computers --
                             you can't buy a $1000 laptop new and sell it a
                             year later for $800.  Also, most laptops are a
                             lot cheaper than $3000 new.
                          \_ The last time I talked to our finance people, we
                             were fully depreciating *computer equipment* in
                             three years, not five.  And it looks like our
                             typical laptops are more like $1,700.  Do I make
                             more than 1700/3 in a day?  Hell yes.
2013/8/13-10/28 [Academia/Berkeley/Ocf] UID:54727 Activity:nil
8/13    How can this be?
        soda {104}% finger reiser
        finger: reiser: no such user.
        Hans was one of the founders of the OCF, did he never get a CSUA
        account?
        \_ Several years ago all soda accounts were sorry'ed, and everyone
           had to send in proof that one is the rightful owner of an account
           before the account was re-activated.  (I had to send in a scan of
           my student ID card and the date that my account was first created.)
           Maybe reiser (I don't know him) was not around at that time to
           re-activate his account.
           \_ perhaps due to being in jail for murder?
              \_ Wow!  I didn't realize who he was.  -- PP
           \_ Yeah but the accounts are still there. Maybe he really never
              did join the CSUA. He was a major OCF booster and there was
              a rivalry in those days. -class of 93
              \_ CSUA: 100% fewer wife-murderers than the OCF!
              \- there was not really a rivalry between the OCF and
                 CSUA ... at least for quite a few years. after that,
                 i dont know ... it was sort of a "managed
                 difference".  Certain key persons with key roles in
                 both organization decide to hold office in only one
                 and not in both ... although there was plenty of
                 behind-the-scenes string pulling in both dir-
                 ections. i think some of more hardcore people in the
                 csua may have had a little bit of condescention
                 toward some OCFers whose main contribution was shall
                 we say "enthusiasm", but I think there was also
                 recongintion that the OCF "made a difference" while
                 the CSUA was largely a club ... although did do some
                 good, say with the tutorials it ran. and of course
                 the csua leadership went off the rails several times
                 while the OCF was still led relatively well due to
                 the socialization efforts of the founding generation
                 [then came the idiotic co-gm era (which was clearly
                 not consitutitional) and the dumb group account sea
                 change ... which may have turned out ok but it made
                 the OCF the bitch of a number of units on campus].
2013/8/7-9/14 [Recreation/Food] UID:54725 Activity:nil
8/6     "Worker Wages: Wendy's vs. Wal-Mart vs. Costco"
        http://www.csua.org/u/10w6 (finance.yahoo.com)
        '"How many times have you gone to a store, and the shelves are empty or
        the checkout line is too long, or employees are rude?," she said.  "At
        Costco, you see a huge line that disappears in minutes."'
        Costco workers do work faster.
2013/8/1-10/28 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:54722 Activity:nil
8/1     Suppose your house is already paid off and you retire at 65.
        How much expense does one expect to spend a year, in the Bay
        Area? Property tax will be about $10K/year for a modest $850K
        home. What about other stuff?
        \_ I think at age 65, health insurance is the next biggest expense.
        \_ I am thinking that we can have a nice middle class
           lifestyle for the two of us on $40k/yr. Maximum Social
           Security is about that, but I intend to have enough
           saved that I will be fine even without SS.
2013/8/1-9/14 [Computer/Companies/Apple, Industry/SiliconValley] UID:54721 Activity:nil
8/1     Apple said if your phone was broken, "it was illegal for Apple to
        replace a phone with a better phone."
        link:www.csua.org/u/10um (http://www.linkedin.com
2013/7/31-9/16 [Reference/RealEstate, Finance/Investment] UID:54720 Activity:nil
7[31    Suppose you have a few hundred thousand dollars in the bank earning
        minimum interest rate and you're not sure whether you're going to
        buy a house in 1-5 years. Should one put that money in a more
        risky place like Vanguard ETFs and index funds, given that the
        horizon is only 1-5 years?
        \_ I have a very similar problem, in that I have a bunch of cash
           I need to use for a remodel in the next 1-3 years. I don't
           know for sure what to do with it, but I think that the
           stock market is too risky for something that you really
           want. I am probably going to put it into CSJ. Let me know if
           you come up with a better plan.
           \_ why are you waiting for remodeling? It's not like the cost
              of remodeling will fluctuate wildly like stock or even
              real estate.
              \_ It takes a while to get the architect to write the plans,
                 get it through planning, etc. We got the money by
                 taking a second out on our house and wanted to lock
                 in interest rates now.
2013/7/31-9/16 [Industry/SiliconValley, Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:54719 Activity:nil
7/31    Hi, I am looking for a monitoring recommendation for use at home
        with my MacMini and as a second monitor for my Airbook. At this
        point I dont want to buy a fancy Apple monitor -- will probably
        wait for then to announce a new one -- but price doesnt really
        matter [office buy], but it doesnt seem like there is any need
        to spend more than $500? Historically I've just gotten a decent
        Samsung, if not top end Apple. Any recs or things to look for?
        \_ I used to be pretty happy with my Dell Ultrasharp. Then
           I got an Apple monitor at work, which blows it away.
        \_ To give you a sense of my perspective, I have a strong preference
           for IPS monitors, and have a pair of 30" Dell Ultrasharps on my
           desk at home (the U3011).  What I just bought for use at work are
           a pair of QNIX QX2710LED monitors from Korea via Ebay.  It's a 27"
           IPS monitor, and it cost $310.  You can get them for less, but the
           sellers engage in binning, so I think it's worth it to pay slightly
           more for one they tested and describe as "perfect pixel".  Mine has
           a matte screen, since I've got a lot of reflections to deal with.
           I think these Korean IPS monitors are the current bang-for-the-buck
           champs in big screens.
           \_ Also, there are a bunch of other brands of Korean IPS monitors
              available on ebay.  QNIX, Catleap, Yamakasi, Crossover, etc.
              They're all basically the same stuff.  Read some reviews, you
              should be fine.
2013/7/29-10/28 [Uncategorized] UID:54718 Activity:nil
7/29    Looking for some good engineers, esp iOS and Android.
        http://www.goodreads.com/jobs
        -- email jwong@goodreads.com
        \_ Why do you have two offices, and which one does what?
2013/7/29-9/16 [Finance/Investment] UID:54717 Activity:nil
7/29    http://news.yahoo.com/study-finds-only-28-percent-173022359.html
        Only 28% of millionaires consider themselves wealthy. So it is
        not just my wife!
        \_ People have been using the term "millionaire" as a synonym for
           "rich" for a very long time.  But there's this little thing called
           inflation.  Having a million dollars in 1900 is roughly equivalent
           to 20-25 million dollars today.  As time goes on, it becomes easier
           to be a millionaire, and that million buys less than it used to.
           Yet people fixate on that number.  *shrug*
           \- I think for the purposes of this conversation it's more useful
              to compare to say 1970. Today paris hilton and i have the same
              iphone [although she probably has a more expensive case]. in 1900
              you didnt have indoor plumbing, travel was risky etc. I think
              the real effect here is one of cohort. Also longer lifespan
              adds to insecurity, as does the state of medicine/medical
              expenses ... insurance doesnt make all of that go away.
              BTW, David Cay Johnston is always worth reading.
              \_ Ooooookay, one million in 1970 is about six million today.
                 My point is unchanged.  Are you happy now?
                 \- this coming from the person whose point is "there is inflation"
                 \- this coming from the person whose point is "there is
                    inflation"
                    \_ Not at all.  Reporters going off about "ZOMG!!!
                       Millionaires don't think they're rich!!!" is a bit
                       silly, because we've been using the term "millionaire"
                       as a synonym for "rich" for so long that today there's a
                       substantial gap in meaning.  Inflation, in this case,
                       has made the words no longer truly synonymous, but
                       people keep using them as synonyms anyway.
                       \_ Pentamillionaire is too hard to say and would just
                          confuse most people anyway. But even just one million
                          US dollars is quite a lot in most of the US (and the
                          world).
                          \_ If you live in the bay area, if you had a million
                             1970 dollars you could retire and live comfortably
                             for the rest of your life.  If you have a million
                             2013 dollars, you're going to be going to work
                             monday through friday and paying your mortgage.
                             That's the difference.  "Sounds big" isn't enough
                             to retire on.
                             \_ Sure and I am in that exact situation. But it
                                is plenty to retire on in most of the country.
                                It is even enough to retire on here, if you are
                                happy with a modest, middle-class lifestyle and
                                have no kids (or your kids are grown).
                        \- The most notorious cases of the "whiney rich"
                           which got a lot of press that I am aware of [such
                           as the Plutocracy-apologist University of Chicago
                           Business School Prof] were people with high
                           *incomes* who were talking about how they were
                           having trouble making ends meet saying they hardly
                           had any money at the end of the year, but were
                           including expenses like private school for 2 kids,
                           saving $75,000/yr toward retrement, $15,000
                           vacations ... based on their car lease estimates,
                           they were driving a pair of $100k cars etc. So
                           they were people making say $250k/yr per couple
                           and upset that 1. they couldnt vacation like their
                           college friends who were making $2.5m year on wall
                           street, 2. couldnt keep spending the same money on
                           cars/restaurants/wine/hobby post-kids. As far as I
                           know, when I was a kid, rich and poor had to stand
                           in line at Disneyland.  Now rich people can buy
                           their way to the front ...  so there is a lot of
                           "plutocratization"/pecuniary externalities.
                           But my point is you have to look at wealth and
                           income. The south bay is filled with retired
                           millionaire school teachers who bought houses
                           in the late 60s and 70s for essentially 0 [$20k?].
                           But I agree the ones who bought investment property
                           and thus are maybe worth $5m have a different
                           lifestyle than the folks with "only" a teacher's
                           pension and a $1.5m house.
                           \_ Can rich people literally buy their way to the
                              front of the line at Disneyland? Or is that a
                              figure of speech?
                              \_ Last time my wife and I went to Disneyland
                                 there was some kind of scheme where you could
                                 reserve a place in the short line.  If you
                                 bought a regular ticket, like us, I think you
                                 were limited to just 2 short lines, but I
                                 recall there being a more expensive ticket
                                 that gave you access to 5 lines or something.
                                 \_ I do not think that this is true, but
                                    will see if I can find some info. I do
                                    know about the Fast Pass, but am pretty
                                    sure that everyone can only hold one at
                                    a time.
                                 \_ Plus, even Gilory Gardens, a non-profit
                                    park, has a similar scheme.
                              \_ The sleazier way to go about this is to hire
                                 a disabled person to accompany you in their
                                 wheelchair so your group can bypass the lines.
                                 I read an article about tour guides doing this
                                 for affluent families at Disneyworld not too
                                 long ago.
                                 \_ Gee, I wouldn't want to put up with having
                                    a stranger in my vacation with my family
                                    just to get to the front of the lines, let
                                    alone paying for it.
                                    \_ I've stood in plenty of long lines at
                                       amusement parks.  Standing in the summer
                                       sun for an hour and a half to two hours
                                       with young kids?  I can see the appeal.
                                       It's hot, kids get bored in the lines,
                                       and if you can skip it, then you get to
                                       do more with your day.  Do you consider
                                       a tour guide an intrusion into your
                                       vacation?
                                 \_ The even sleazier way is to rent your own
                                    wheelchair.
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2014/1/7-2/5 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:54762 Activity:nil
1/7     Are you from a family of Mormons, Cuban exiles, Nigerian Americans,
        Indian Americans, Chinese Americans, American Jews, Iranian Americans
        or Lebanese Americans?
        http://www.csua.org/u/123d (shine.yahoo.com)
        \_ Somehow she misssed WASP Episcopalians.
2014/1/2-2/5 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:54761 Activity:nil
1/2     "What would a U.S.-China war look like?"
        http://www.csua.org/u/122i (theweek.com)
2013/12/3-5 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:54756 Activity:nil
12/3    Remember that money you were going to spend on presents for you
        children this Christmas? Give it to Scott Walker instead:
        http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-walker-grinch-that-stole-christmas.html
2013/11/26-12/5 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:54755 Activity:nil
11/26   Gay restaurant server faking anti-gay note from customer on receipt:
        http://www.csua.org/u/11uq
        \_ That article says the note is in dispute, not that it is fake.
           Is there a different article you intended to share instead?
2013/11/25-2014/2/5 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:54754 Activity:nil
11/25   California, model for The Nation:
        http://tinyurl.com/k6crazn
        \_ 'And maybe the transaction would have proceeded faster if Mr.
           Boehner's office hadn't, according to the D.C. exchange, put its
           agent - who was calling to help finish the enrollment - on hold for
           35 minutes, listening to "lots of patriotic hold music."'
        \_ "Boehner Fails to Fail on Obamacare": http://www.csua.org/u/11up
        \_ Boehner ~= Boner
2013/11/4-12/5 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:54752 Activity:nil
11/3    Check this out if you don't want your grade school kids to be forced
        to share bathrooms and shower rooms with the opposite sex:
        http://privacyforallstudents.com
        Only three days left.
        \_^sex^race
           \_ Yes, you are so right, those are exactly the same things.
        \_ KCBS article on this: http://www.csua.org/u/11o4
        \_ Hold on now, they're also sharing with teh GAYS. We should just
           have separate bathrooms and shower rooms for each individual,
           just so nobody is uncomfortable with anyone else, male, female,
           gay, or straight
           \_ I don't want to have to share a shower with myself, can you
              help me out here.
2013/10/24-11/21 [Politics/Domestic] UID:54748 Activity:nil
9/19    Real (i.e. inflation adjusted) per capita spending in the proposed
        2010-11 General Fund budget is nearly the same as in the 1994-95
        budget 16 years ago.  Real per capita spending did increase during
        the <DEAD>dot.com<DEAD> boom and again briefly after 2003 but current per capita
        spending is below the recent long-term average.
        http://www.ccsce.com/PDF/Numbers-Jun2010-Budget-Myth3.pdf
2013/10/24-11/8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:54745 Activity:nil
9/30    http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-may-invented-lightsaber-152606868.html
        The URL says it all.
2013/10/24-11/8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:54743 Activity:nil
10/02   RIP Tom Clancy:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/l5ejpy3 [nyt]
2013/9/9-11/21 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:54738 Activity:nil
9/9     "Syria positive about giving up chemical weapons"
        http://www.csua.org/u/1165 (news.yahoo.com)
        Damn!  We did all the dirty work, and now Russia is going to get the
        credits.
        \_ Vladimir Putin for Nobel Prize!
2013/8/26-11/21 [Politics/Domestic/California, Consumer/Camera] UID:54733 Activity:nil
8/26    "Pastafarian student allowed to wear pasta strainer on head for
        driver's license photo"
        http://www.csua.org/u/112h (news.yahoo.com)
        R'amen.
        \_ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pastafarian-recognized-texas-id-article-1.1436608
           With photos.
2013/8/7-9/14 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:54726 Activity:nil
8/7     Good article about NSA and the lost trust:
        http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/08/restoring_trust.html
2013/8/5-9/14 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:54724 Activity:nil
8/5     "Communist Party makes a comeback ... in Japan"
        http://news.yahoo.com/communist-party-makes-comeback-japan-134436281.html
        \_ They never went away in Japan. When I lived there, the MP from my city
           was a Communist (back in the early 90s). --erikred
        \_ They never went away in Japan. When I lived there, the MP from my
           city was a Communist (back in the early 90s). --erikred
2013/8/2-10/28 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:54723 Activity:nil
8/2     http://www.csua.org/u/10v0 (news.yahoo.com)
        "A massive new study finds that aggressive acts like committing
        violent crimes and waging war become more likely with each added
        degree."
        \_ ah crap, I shouldn't have gotten my graduate degree.
        \_ racist!
           \_ Just in case, "degree" here refers to degree Fahrenheit. -- OP
              \_ Not degrees celsius? Phew, we are safe!
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