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2010/9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:53946 Activity:nil
9/3     http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-hell-wrong-with-twenty-somethings
2010/8/31-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:53945 Activity:nil
8/31    Has anyone successfully hooked up a 3G phone to their laption as
        a modem in linux?  (like via minicom) thx.
2010/8/30-9/3 [Reference/Military, Recreation/Media] UID:53944 Activity:nil
8/30    Supersonic fighter jet that still flies for sale.  Only $175k.
        http://www.csua.org/u/rhm
        But it burns $500 of fuel per minute when going supersonic.
        \_ Stop telling me how to live you PC liberal.
2010/8/30-9/3 [Transportation/Car, Industry/Jobs] UID:53943 Activity:nil
8/30    Engine Yard hiring in greater-Chicago area:
        http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/tch/1927473851.html
2010/8/29-9/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:53941 Activity:nil
8/29    ok i give up; why is this throwing an error?
        #define Lambda(args,ret_type,body) \
        class MakeName(__Lambda___) { \
        public: ret_type operator() args { body; } }
        usage:
        Lambda((int a, int b), int, return a+b) foo;
        >g++ -o foo foo.cpp
        foo.cpp: In function ‘int main(int, char**)’:
        foo.cpp:9: error: expected primary-expression before ‘class’
        foo.cpp:9: error: expected `;' before ‘class’
        foo.cpp:11: error: expected `}' at end of input
        ref: http://okmij.org/ftp/cpp-digest/Lambda-CPP-more.html#Ex1
        \_ works for me.  see /tmp/lambda.cpp
           \_ nod thanks,  i didnt have MakeName defined there. sorry.
2010/8/29-9/3 [Consumer/Camera, Computer/SW/Languages] UID:53939 Activity:nil
8/28    Hi, anybody printed a photo image to a big plotter?  Something like
        36"x36"?  I'm wondering how many megapixels the image need to
        have in order for the print to "look good".  There is a rule of
        thumb?  Like 6 megapixel is good for X size print.  10 megapixel
        is good for Y size print.  Thanks.
        \_ You don't need that many more megapixels for much bigger prints,
           because people tend to view bigger prints from farther away.
2010/8/27-9/3 [Computer] UID:53938 Activity:nil
8/27    '"We're about to crash," BA passengers told in error'
        http://www.csua.org/u/rgm (news.yahoo.com)
        This should warrant some legitimate emotional distress lawsuits.
2010/8/26-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:53937 Activity:nil
8/26    http://howfuckedismydatabase.com
2010/8/25-9/3 [Recreation/Pets] UID:53936 Activity:nil
8/25    http://27bslash6.com/missy.html --linkpusher
        \_ they'd be funnier if they were true
           \_ So.. you're looking for reality on the internet? -!OP
2010/8/23-9/3 [Industry/Jobs] UID:53935 Activity:high
8/23    Job opportunity at the US District Court, Northern District of CA:
        Courtroom Technology Specialist
        http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/tch/1914895472.html
        --erikred
        \_ $54k/yr! Damn those overpaid civil servants!
           \_ it's really about 70k-80k yr if you factor in things like
              planned vacations, ease of work, no doctors bills for ulcers,
              9-6 work day, 5 day work week.
              \_ Plus no layoff.
                 \_ you're kidding, right?
                    \_ Layoffs in public sector have been much lower than private.
                       In private you get fired, not furloughed.
                    \_ Layoffs in public sector have been much lower than
                       private. In private you get fired, not furloughed.
                       \_ really? what if you're an unionized pilot/stew/maint
                          \_ What if you're not? I agree with the guy above.
                             Lots of people should be terminated and should
                             be glad they were furloughed instead.
                       \_ Bullshit
                          \_ Want to post some facts to back that up?
                             \_ you're the one who made the claim.
                                \_ http://blogs.sacbee.com/the_state_worker/100817%20Job%20loss%20chart.JPG
                                   http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/pdf/BudgetSummary/BS_SCH6.pdf
                                   Also, being laid off from the State
                                   requires 120 days notice and layoffs
                                   are determined by seniority and not value.
           \_ Salary looks about right for the requirements. I know someone
                                   \_ So the State, which employs 300k out of
                                      20M, has had 40k layoffs, this is 13%. The
                                      public sector has had 1.2M out of 20M,
                                      this is about 6%. Thanks for the data.
                                      \_ You are misreading the data.
                                         The 40K layoffs is for State
                                         and local workers both. There
                                         are about 1.8M government
                                         workers when you add in the State
                                         workers in the second chart.
                                         (Source: http://www2.census.gov/govs/apes/09locca.txt
                                         The second chart shows that there are
                                         30K more State workers than in 2006
                                         and only 10K less than the maximum.
                                         Do your math again and get back
                                         to me.
           \_ Salary looks about righe for the requirements. I know someone
              with a very similar job who makes about $50K. Difference
              being she's not a civil servant with all of the benefits
              attached.
              \_ So of course, the free market is the best way to set
                 compensation.  Because of the magic of the invisible hand,
                 the most competent people are necessarily in the
                 highest-paying jobs.  Unless they're civil servants, in
                 which case they're obviously incompetent, overcompensated
                 pariahs sucking taxpayers dry.  Right.  -tom
                 \_ Says Tom, who will rake in $100K/year (in today's
                    dollars) with free health care for the rest of his life at
                    around age 60. So you think this Bell city manager deserved
                    to make $800K/year and retire on $600K/year? He was
                    overcompensated and did suck the taxpayers dry. I am
                    dollars) with free health care for the rest of his life
                    at around age 60. So you think this Bell city manager
                    deserved to make $800K/year and retire on $600K/year? He
                    was overcompensated and did suck the taxpayers dry. I am
                    not sure if he was incompetent, but I do know that if
                    the position was advertised at that salary he probably
                    wouldn't have gotten the job despite his UCB undergrad
                    degree. You can make the same argument for the CEO of any
                    large company (incompetent and overpaid) _except_ it is not
                    at the taxpayer expense.

                    degree. You can make the same argument for the CEO of
                    any large company (incompetent and overpaid) _except_ it
                    is not at the taxpayer expense.
                    Check out the salaries for employees of the City of LA:
                    http://controller.lacity.org/ssLINK/LACITYP_011307
                    A "Senior clerk typist" makes $56K, a "Refuse
                    collector truck operator" makes $64K, a "Maintenance
                    Laborer" makes $49K, a "Motor Sweeper Operator" makes
                    $70K. These people do not pay for Social Security or health
                    http://controller.lacity.org/ssLINK/LACITYP_011307 A
                    "Senior clerk typist" makes $56K, a "Refuse collector
                    truck operator" makes $64K, a "Maintenance Laborer"
                    makes $49K, a "Motor Sweeper Operator" makes $70K. These
                    people do not pay for Social Security or health
                    insurance out of these salaries and many of them take
                    home more money than listed because of perks like
                    overtime. Now, granted, some positions are underpaid -
                    like many of the accountants. However, the average pay for
                    a secretary (senior clerk typist) in LA is only $48K and I
                    am guessing that her job is more stressful, less secure,
                    and receives fewer benefits. To wit:

                    like many of the accountants. However, the average pay
                    for a secretary (senior clerk typist) in LA is only $48K
                    and I am guessing that her job is more stressful, less
                    secure, and receives fewer benefits. To wit:
                    Disney's job posting for a secretary asks for:
                    "Ability and willingness to work long hours as needed."
                    "Ability to be proactive, resourceful, flexible and to
                    manage a heavy workload."
                    "Ability to maintain professionalism under pressure."
                    Pay: $40-60K with an average of $52K

                    Warner Bros wants:
                    "Detail oriented with the ability to work well and
                    maintain professionalism under pressure."
                    "Must be able to work at a face pace with accuracy."
                    "Must be able to work under constant deadlines."
                    Pay: Not listed, but probably about the same

                    Somehow I am seeing a trend here. Being that my girlfriend
                    works in entertainment, she will attest that they will
                    work you to death if possible. A government secretary
                    (which my sister was for years before going to get her RN)
                    does whatever work she can and goes home at 5pm.
                    Sometimes there wasn't enough to do (because she was so
                    efficient and because they are overstaffed) that her boss
                    sent her home early. It's one reason she started going
                    to nursing school while still working full-time: she was
                    able to get her work done even though she worked only
                    three days per week. So I wouldn't say that all
                    government employees are incompetent, but they certainly
                    set the staffing levels as if they are and yet I've asked
                    LA (in writing) to fix a mistake on my property tax bill
                    for 3 years in a row now and when I call I am told:
                    "Can you call back later? I'm busy right now." WTF?
                    Take down my number and call me back when you have time.
                    So, yeah, getting the job done isn't a priority for
                    some people.

                    Tom will ask: So why doesn't everyone get a government job
                    if they are so great? Well, because there is very
                    Somehow I am seeing a trend here. Being that my
                    girlfriend works in entertainment, she will attest that
                    they will work you to death if possible. A government
                    secretary (which my sister was for years before going to
                    get her RN) does whatever work she can and goes home at
                    5pm.  Sometimes there wasn't enough to do (because she
                    was so efficient and because they are overstaffed) that
                    her boss sent her home early. It's one reason she
                    started going to nursing school while still working
                    full-time: she was able to get her work done even though
                    she worked only three days per week. So I wouldn't say
                    that all government employees are incompetent, but they
                    certainly set the staffing levels as if they are and yet
                    I've asked LA (in writing) to fix a mistake on my
                    property tax bill for 3 years in a row now and when I
                    call I am told: "Can you call back later? I'm busy right
                    now." WTF?  Take down my number and call me back when
                    you have time.  So, yeah, getting the job done isn't a
                    priority for some people.
                    Tom will ask: So why doesn't everyone get a government
                    job if they are so great? Well, because there is very
                    little turnover and once people land a job they stay
                    there for decades. I also believe that most people don't
                    really realize what kind of salaries can be made
                    working for the government. They think it's like it
                    used to be where everyone pulls down $45K. I can tell
                    you my sister and I were both shocked when she asked to
                    get into my company when we had an opening for a senior
                    secretary and the salary advertised was a _LOT_ less than
                    she made for the government (like more than 20% less). I
                    was like "You make _HOW MUCH_?" and she was like "They pay
                    _THAT LITTLE_? I'll stay put."
                    really realize what kind of salaries can be made working
                    for the government. They think it's like it used to be
                    where everyone pulls down $45K. I can tell you my sister
                    and I were both shocked when she asked to get into my
                    company when we had an opening for a senior secretary
                    and the salary advertised was a _LOT_ less than she made
                    for the government (like more than 20% less). I was like
                    "You make _HOW MUCH_?" and she was like "They pay _THAT
                    LITTLE_? I'll stay put. In other 10 years I'll have free
                    health care for life." She's 4 years away now (she can
                    retire at 50) and then she'll collect her "retirement"
                    while she goes to work full-time as an RN. By then
                    she'll be making probably $200K/year between the two
                    salaries and getting free health care on the taxpayer's
                    dime, too. Then she can retire on her $5K/month
                    government retirement plus she'll have paid into Social
                    Security and collect that, too. Sweet! Am I jealous?
                    Hell yes! Do not anger me, I am dim! Would I have done
                    that had I known people could take advantage of the
                    system by double dipping?  Maybe so!  I think the system
                    is broken when a person can be a secretary for 25 years
                    at average salary (or above), switch careers to the
                    private sector, and then collect two retirements from
                    the government plus free health care on top of whatever
                    they manage to save.
                    \_ 1/10 for content, 0/10 for length.
                    \_ Working at the UC and taking N contracting jobs is
                       very standard.
                    \_ I am a Director at a Silicon Valley company and I make
                       about 2X what someone in a comparable job makes at the
                       UC. My wife had a similar experience with HUD and Citi.
                       As I said before, low skill jobs are higher paying in
                       the public sector and high skill and management jobs
                       pay better in the private sector. It is pretty obvious
                       why this is, if you would pull your head out of your ass.
                       It would pretty embarassing if a school janitor had to
                       draw food stamps to make ends meet. Secretaries do not
                       retire at 25 years, you are full of crap.
                       \_ You are correct that high-level management jobs pay
                          more in the private sector. I think a military
                          general is an example of an underpaid government job.
                          President Obama is another. However, most government
                          employees would not be high-level managers in
                          the private sector. Most government employees are
                          paper pushers who are overpaid. The fact that
                          there are a few underpaid positions doesn't change
                          that fact. Anyone can retire as long as they are
                          age 50 and have 10 years of service although
                          there are ways to retire earlier and some plans
                          make you wait until age 60. Why should a janitor
                          with the government make more than a janitor in the
                          private sector?
                          \_ It is not true that anyone can retire from
                             Federal service at age 50 with 10 years of
                             service, where did you get this idea? I checked
                             what my wife would make if she worked for HUD
                             for 25 years and got promoted to the top of her
                             pay and one grade up (GS-14). It would have been
                             $32k/yr at age 62, which was 25% of what her salary
                             would be at the time. So 25% of your base salary is
                             overpaid? Janitors in the private sector are
                             underpaid but since we use the free market to
                             set labor values there, that is just the way it
                             is. Everyone working for the government should
                             be paid a living wage, imho.
                             \_ I am not quoting federal retirement. I am
                                not sure what that is. I am talking about
                                State and local government.
                                "The state's current pension system allows
                                firefighters, Highway Patrol officers, and
                                peace officers to retire as young as 50
                                years old and earn 3% of their final
                                salaries for every year worked.  Other
                                state safety employees may retire at age
                                55 with a 2.5% multiplier and
                                miscellaneous employees may retire at age
                                55 with a 2% multiplier or at age 63 with
                                a 2.5% multiplier."
                                (Source: http://tinyurl.com/2db96kp
                                You can also "buy" years. Other tricks
                                here: http://tinyurl.com/2ahy8vh
                                Reform is required. I don't get 401k
                                matches based on my highest 3 earning years.
                                Pensions should not be calculated in that
                                manner either.
                                Janitors in the private sector are not
                                "underpaid." They are paid market wages.
                                Public sector janitors are overpaid. The
                                government should not pay more than the
                                private sector. Otherwise, my tax dollars
                                are wasted. Contract it out. This isn't a
                                welfare state.
                                \_ Janitor salaries in the private sector are
                                   artifically depressed by use of
                                   undocumented workers.  You can't do that
                                   in the public sector.
                                   \_ Contract it out.
                                      \_ It's no more appropriate for
                                         public entities to be using
                                         undocumented workers through a
                                         contractor than it is for them
                                         to be paying them directly.
                                         \_ I didn't say to use undocumented
                                            workers. I said contract it
                                            out and pay market rate
                                            instead of the inflated
                                            salaries we pay now.
                                            \_ As I said, "market rate" is
                                               artificially depressed by the
                                               use of undocumented workers.
                                               \_ Let's assume this is true.
                                                  Surely you are not implying
                                                  that all janitors are
                                                  undocumented.
                                                  \_ no, I'm stating that
                                                     the market for janitors
                                                     is not free, and thus
                                                     "market rate" is
                                                     meaningless.
                                \_ Safety employees are not "anyone," get
                                   your facts straight.
                                   \_ Safety employees have it better, but
                                      it is still possible for anyone to
                                      retire at age 50 if they buy some
                                      airtime, especially if they buy it
                                      early in their careers. It's not
                                      too hard to do once you go out
                                      and get another job after "retiring."
        \_ the thing about this that I don't like is gov employees who are
           utterly convinced that their benefits aren't a part of their salary
           and "industry makes more money" just based on pure | paycheck |.
           \_ I'm a govt. employee, and I'm well-aware that my benefits are
              part of my salary. It's why my salary is lower than market. I'm
              willing to make the trade-off for the security, and I don't
              grumble about it. Mind you, I'm also not going to ever become
              a startup millionaire, so there you go.
              \_ 1988: "Mama, I'm gonna move to hollywood and become a star!1!"
              \_ I wonder if in 20 years they'll have reality tv shows about
                 people moving to silivalley and bringing their software
                 concepts to the world.  "If i could dream dot com."
                 \_ You know, if the TLC and Bravo can make shows about
                 \_ You know, if TLC and Bravo can make shows about
                    those idiots flipping houses in Hollywood, I don't see
                    why a reality show about 70 hour weeks at a Start-up
                    wouldn't fly. It's not like there's not enough drama
                    among geeks.
                    \_ There would have to be the 6 month 120 episode
                       prequel series to explain all the in jokes.
                       \_ Aren't they common culture now?
                          \_ No, but nerds think so because they are so
                             insular and closed-cultured.
                       \_ Would the movie "Office Space" do the trick?
                          \_ So, you want to do a "The Real Office Space?"
                             something that is apart from ... The Office
                             and Office Space and 9 to 5; just saying the
                             jokes people will get are pretty common and all
                             boil down to dilbert strips.  Funny for a couple
                             of hours maybe; (office space is still a cult
                             movie). but not for 2 seasons+.
        \_ re: univ perks, one of the nice perks is that you can
           actually take classes as an employee.  Think about the monetary
           compensation for that, how much is it per unit  post degree to
           take a class at 1. as UC and 2. The Top UC?  That example just
           came to me, I'm sure there are other perks like that.
                Oh right another: free gym membership is another have you
           seen how much a monthly gym costs?  Granted it's not 24 hour
           fitness, but still....
                Yes I know it still costs for univ employees but there is
           a discount.
           \_ Courses are still very expensive for staff.  RSF is
              $420/year for staff, that's not a discount for what you're
              getting.
           \_ A big perk often not mentioned is a car allowance. A lot of
             government employees get them: up to $550/month or more.
             There are others which are not counted as "salary" including
             housing allowance and other subsidies. Some of these can be
             very significant (up to 50% of total pay.)
             \_ And all of those are also available to private sector
                employees.  If you think government jobs are so great, go
                get one.  Oh, forgot, you're too incompetent.
                \_ My Company Benefits are BIGGER than yours!
                \_ I think we take from this that not all priv sector jobs
                   are the same  vs the uniformity of the .gov benefits.
                   \_ Yeah I'm really enjoying my car and housing allowance.
                      Oh, wait.
                \_ I would have gotten one if I had known what a scam was
                   being perpetuated. I was living in the past. I didn't
                   realize what "New Government" was all about! No point
                   is getting one now, though, b/c the public is going to
                   end your gravy train soon enough. Public labor is very
                   scared and upset by the prospects of this eventuality
                   now that the taxpayers have caught on. You should be!
                   "The deal used to be that civil servants were paid less
                   than private sector workers in exchange for an
                   understanding that they had job security for life.
                   But we politicians, pushed by our friends in labor,
                   gradually expanded pay and benefits to private-sector
                   levels while keeping the job protections and layering
                   on incredibly generous retirement packages that pay
                   ex-workers almost as much as current workers."
                   --Willie Brown
                   \_ how do you know when Willie Brown is lying?  His lips are
                      moving.
                      \_ You're going to say this about anyone who disagrees
                         with you. Better from a SF liberal Democrat with a
                         history of supporting labor than a Republican you will
                         dismiss out of hand. At some point you need to
                         get your head out of the sand.
                         \_ No, I'm going to say that about Willie Brown, who
                            has been well-known as a self-satisfied, self-
                            promoting scumbag for a long time.  Also, elitist;
                            he declared that "all those clerks pushing papers
                            and pencils" couldn't move into his beautiful
                            new City Hall.  And he had his limo driver take
                            him 3 blocks from CIty Hall for a photo op on
                            Bike to Work Day.
                    \_ I think that this is true for City of SF jobs, but not
                       true in general.
        \_ priv sector people who hate pub sector jobs so much go fix it
           CA Voter initiative the pub jobs away. Ha ha.
2010/8/23-9/3 [Computer/Theory] UID:53933 Activity:nil
9/20    Why does everyone talk about Turing but  nobody talks much about
        Babbage?
        \_ arithmetic vs algorithms
2010/8/23-9/3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:53932 Activity:kinda low
9/21    are you guys really all using win7 in some way now?
        \_ Yes.  In my company, we have upgraded all our machines for
           development, QA and other office use (HR, Finance, Receptions, etc.)
           from WinXP to Win7 a few months ago.  Our products now primarily
           support Win7/Win2008 and secondarily support WinXP/Win2003.
           \_ Any weird gotchas support-wise?
              \_ Yeah, the admin priviledge thing is strange.  Even when the
                 user logs on as local Administrator, his processes don't
                 always have admin priviledge.  We didn't see these problems
                 on XP.  -- PP
                 \_ You need to right-click theh app and run as administrator.
                    to e.g. use notepad to edit HOSTS file
                    \_ Ack. this... is... not...sudo...
                       \_ correct. this is not sudo. if you're using sudo with N\
OPASSWD:ALL=(ALL) ALL you're already kinda losing
           \_ Do cracked versions work or it's super hard to get one nowadays?
        \_ Using it at home. Plug'n'play works like a charm. So much better
           than the beta version (aka Vista).
        \_ I have it installed on my VMWare Fusion instance on my Mac.
        \_ Came with my laptop (x100e) so yes.
2010/8/23-9/3 [Transportation/Car] UID:53931 Activity:nil
8/23    "China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100823/sc_afp/chinaroadtraffic
        "... the jam between Beijing and Jining city had given birth to a
        mini-economy ..."
        And we think traffic in L.A. is bad.
        \_ Actually those of us who have travelled don't.
        \_ Don't tell suburb lover, he might blow a gasket.
           \_ As opposed to city lover?  Both would blow a gasket.
        \_ Cars are cool. hehe... heheh... heheh
           \_ "Four legs good, two legs bad^Wbetter."
2010/8/20-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:53930 Activity:nil
8/19    Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: Funnest movie this entire year.
        \_ Was this add relevant to you? [yes] [no]
                                               \_ no
        \_ why?
2010/8/19-9/3 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:53929 Activity:nil
8/19    Anyone have a good MLC vs. SLC writeup that is less than a year
        old? I am investigating making a big SSD order. -ausman
        \_ how much performance gain are you expecting from using SSD?
           Let's say your 7200RPM yields 70 MB/sec (sustained) read and
           your new SSD yields 160 MB/sec read, and that your application
           is mostly streaming media (so the platter is continuous read,
           mostly). Do you expect a 2X performance? Now, let's say your
           application is mostly short random meta-data reads and your
           7200RPM now only yields 32MB/sec read, while your SSD still
           yields 160MB/sec read. Do you expect a 5X performance in your
           response time or throughput, or both? I'm quizzing your ability
           to perform calculations as an architect.
2010/8/19-9/3 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:53928 Activity:nil
8/19    I have business in Osaka. I would like to see Kyoto and,
        preferably, Tokyo. However, I only have about 2-3 days to myself.
        I have never been to Japan. I can fly into Osaka and out of Tokyo,
        if I want. I was thinking of flying into Osaka and then taking the
        train to Tokyo before flying back from Tokyo to the USA with the
        goal of a full day in Kyoto and a full day in Tokyo in between. Is this
        realistic? Should I focus on just one of Tokyo/Kyoto? The idea is
        that I check them out in order to figure out what I want to see
        next time when I have more time. I know I am trying to compress a lot
        into a short period, but I am an expert at that. I just don't sleep.
        I'd appreciate advice.
        \_ You certainly can see a few things in each place.  While I was
           there, I chatted with a lady who was doing what you're thinking of
           while on a business trip.  Depending on your interests, I suspect
           even if you spend the full 2-3 days in the Kansai area, you might
           want to come back anyways.
        \_ Yes, you can do this. You're going to be beat, but it sounds like
           you're okay with that. Make sure to hit Kinkakuji in Kyoto.
           This site may help with the trains:
           http://www.seat61.com/Japan.htm#Train%20times
2010/8/17-19 [Uncategorized] UID:53927 Activity:nil
8/17    I have a bunch of cron that I want to run but only want to
        output to stdout if there is any stderr (or if it returns $?)
        so that it'll be in email. Otherwise, I want to output nothing.
        Is there a program that does this already?
        \_ program >tempfile || cat tempfile; rm tempfile
2010/8/17-9/3 [Finance/Investment] UID:53925 Activity:nil
8/17    Hey Market Timer, your method doesn't really work:
        http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/510046-mark-seleznov/37562-market-timing-with-the-50-day-moving-average-dia-dow-jones-industrial-averages
2010/8/13-9/3 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:53924 Activity:nil
8/12    Ugg, no spamd any longer?  I figured I'd have to just give up on my
        soda address (sad, very sad) but Vacation doesn't seem to be installed
        either, so I can't even leave a mesg. to people telling them where
        tom mail me now.  Or can I ?  Any advice out there.  Or can we get
        spamassassin/spamd reinstalled or Vacation or... help....
        \_ Ha, gmail as spamassassin.  presently I am forwarding to gmail
           and then forwarding to where I really want it from there.
           don't know why I feel compelled to share my kludge. -top
        \_ Stop bitching and ask someone on root. I've emailed asking if this
           was intentional. Also, storing mail on soda has been deprecated for
           the past year and a half. Man up and .forward it already.
           \_you misunderstand.  I *have* been forwarding it already.  (for
             quite a long time).  But filtered I sent it through spamc first
             avoiding, among other problems, loops caused by my anti-spam
             service bouncing it when it is spam), now i am forwarding it
             twice!)
        \_ Apparently spamd was never even set up.
           \_ spamassassin used to work, back in the day.
              \_ back in the day when the roads in berkeley to silicon valley
                 venture funds were paved in gold, every startup IPOd and
                 moore's law worked
2010/8/12-9/3 [Finance/Investment] UID:53923 Activity:nil
8/12    Holy crap.  Feds will monitize the debt.  Say goodbye to the dollar.
        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ajcLVDMwN5To
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero
           \_ Would Canada and Mexico want to devalue their currency by
              being associated with us?
        \_ "This has all happened before, and it will happen again."
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wörgl#The_W.C3.B6rgl_Experiment
           (Adoption of local currency with penalties to hoarders
           stimulated job growth in a Depression)
        \_ I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords!
           \_ China has its own problems with its housing ponzi collapsing:
              http://csua.org/u/rcz
              \_ source is biased towards bad news.  (not saying wrong,
                 just biased).   Not sure how good of an indicator
                 Earnings to Sales price is for China since income there
                 is likely to be dramatically understated.  Quickly
                 scanning, I didn't notice if there were rental to price
                 ratios.  (Did you see any?). -crebbs
        \_ Yawn, old news. Literally.
        \_ I <3 how nobody comments on the documented solution to the
           problem (the borgl experiment).
2010/8/12-9/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:53922 Activity:nil
8/12    Ruby coders, do you mostly DIY your stuff or use the ruby libs out
        there?   How is their quality compared to other libs you have used
        for other langs?  Thx.
        \_ I use Ruby for hobby stuff, etc.  I use libraries for system stuff
           (web access, process, etc.) but that's about it.  Perl libraries are
           much better/more complete.  I assume because of the maturity and
           size of the community.
        \_ I've found the quality of ruby libs to be lower than perl, which
           also often has quality issues.  The plus side is reading the ruby
           code to figure out wtf is going on is easier than reading perl, imo
           \_ what do either of you think of python libs by comparison
              (speaking of readability)?
        \_ python is quite mature and the programmers that use it tend to
           be much higher quality than ruby. ruby programmers, on average,
           are just slightly above average php programmers, which isn't
           a very good bar to begin with.
           \_ I've looked around with some libraries, most of which give me
              the feeling that you are right,  from their code base, they
              seem to have been made for "grab that low hanging fruit for
              mindshare" - it's the dancing bear problem of software.
              Mostly written by yeah college kids or highschoolers.  Reminds
              me of MySQL codebase. Which I guess is where most of these
              people are from...
              \_ dancing bear?
                 \_ You don't grade the bear on its routine, you are jus
                    amazed it dances at all.
2010/8/12-9/3 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:53921 Activity:nil
8/12    Judge Walker denies Stay. Prop 8 null and void from next Wednesday:
        <DEAD>ecf.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/09cv2292<DEAD>
2010/8/12-19 [Uncategorized] UID:53920 Activity:nil
8/12    "Girl Born On 8/9/10 At 11:12"
        http://www.csua.org/u/rcf (news.yahoo.com)
        \_ Behold, she is the Messiah!
2010/8/10-9/3 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:53919 Activity:nil
8/10    http://www.businessinsider.com/google-puts-wave-out-of-its-misery-2010-8
        Google Wave No More. The people who worked on it were pretty smart.
        They wrote up a super awesome OKR with extremely low bar as a measure
        of success, exceeded everyone's expectations by going above those
        bars, and got big fat bonuses and promotions as a result of their
        planning. Brilliant.
        \_ How big a bonus are we talking about here? Did they get a founder's
           award?
        \_ GOOG has a lot of smart people. Wake me when they do anything of
           note outside of their search engine service/Ad Sense.
           \_ I assume you are not including buying up notable services like
              grand central -> google voice.
              \_ Buying a product shows some business acumen, but not much
                 engineering acumen.
                 \_ Buying a product, improving it and integrating it into
                    your suite requires possibly more engineering acumen than
                    building it yourself.  Google does this all the time,
                    with Google Docs being the best example.  -tom
                    \_ No, because if it was harder to integrate than
                       build they wouldn't have spent money buying it. The
                       idea is that it saved money to buy it rather than
                       build it (if they even had the idea to begin with).
                       This is a good business strategy that companies like
                       Cisco use, but it's kind of sad that Google can't
                       originate and develop ideas on their own given the
                       engineering talent they seem to have. There is something
                       dysfunctional there. Maybe it's management. Maybe it's
                       culture. Maybe they are already too big, fat, and lazy.
                       I leave speculation as an exercise to the reader.
                       \_ Companies routinely underestimate the difficulty in
                          integrating software components from different
                          development trees; anyone who's used an "integrated
                          suite" like LANDesk or Oracle Communications Suite
                          can attest.  Cisco has a lot of engineering talent,
                          too.  Maybe the dysfunctional thing is you.  -tom
                       \_ It is harder by far to maintain someone elses code
                          base than to write it yourself.*  And harder to
                          frankenstien together systems that are working,
                          reliable and secure from seperate components,  To
                          put it like this, companies pay top dollars to
                          coders and sysadmins for integration, not for
                          DIY cowboy setups.
                          * imagine also if all you have is an existing
                          binary and some sparse docs on how it works, or
                          an existing company system setup where all the
                          admins who have set it up have long gone
                          \_ Does this mean I should cover my short now?
                             - short GOOG at $100 guy
2010/8/9-19 [Industry/Startup] UID:53918 Activity:nil 66%like:53913
8/8     'What are the favorite questions people ask your company whenever
        you say "Do you have any questions?"'
        \_ 'What are the favorite questions people ask your company whenever
           you say "Do you have any questions?"'
        \_ What is the culture like here? How many hours a week do most
           people put in? How many do you? What do you like best about
           working at Company XYZ? What do you like least?
2010/8/9-19 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:53917 Activity:nil
8/9     I got two files, one is size 522190848 and the other is size
        521648128.  Both sha256 to the same number.  (and sha1 too).
        I don't think this is supposed to happen, right? (least not with
        sha256).
        \_ how are you checking?
           \_ I burned one file to cd, so i mounted /cdrom and
              df --block-size=1 /cdrom (=521648128)
              then i re dl'ed the iso and checked the size: 522190848
              both sha256's of iso and /dev/hdc yield the same.
              I have done this type of check on other isos and they yield
              the same sha[1,256] and size on both.  Just this one is weird.
              \_ I don't think df is giving you the number you want.
                 Try "wc -c /dev/hdc".
        \_ hash collisions can (and rarely do) happen.  You're deriving a
           number consisting of some hundreds of bits from data with millions.
           The idea behind the hashing algorithm is that it is hard to get
           collisions on purpose, and rare with small changes i.e. bit error or
           tampering.
           \_ I don't think an SHA-256 collision has ever happened by accident.
              If you have two different files, the probability that they have
              the same SHA-256 hash by chance is 2^-256; that's less than the
              chance that in the one second after you hit Enter to calculate
              the hashes, your computer is obliterated by three separate
              meteorites independently.  It could happen, but it's not very
              likely.
2010/8/9-19 [Computer/HW/Printer] UID:53916 Activity:nil
8/9     Yay soda got a printer!
        root 4950  0.0  0.0  67440  2664 ? Ss Aug07   0:08 /usr/sbin/cupsd
        \_ No, really, do we have a printer?
2010/8/9-19 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:53915 Activity:nil
8/9     Who is this guy 42949672?  Posted some root's processes for context.
        751  root      15  -5     0    0    0 S    1  0.0   0:24.50 rpciod/0
        5293 42949672  20   0 20412  908  576 S    0  0.0   0:18.82 nrpe
        1    root      20   0 10312  748  620 S    0  0.0   0:08.75 init
        \_ Sounds like -1 (a truncated 4294967295).
2010/8/8-9/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:53914 Activity:nil
8/8     Trying to make a list of interesting features languages have
        touted as this whole PL field comes around, trying to see if they
        have basis in the culture of the time: feel free to add some/dispute
        1970 C, "portability"
        1980 C++, classes, oop, iterators, streams, functors, templates
             expert systems
        1990 Java, introspection, garbage collection, good threading model
             CORBA -- collosal failure. RMI nice and light.
             neural nets
        2000 CGI hacks. PHP and Perl hacks. Bad post dot-com crap
             programming (lots of disposable UI code).
             organic evolvers
             - PHP, javascript, flash (ha)
             \_ Do you guys remember at some point they started to use TCPIP
                over localhost to do IPC? I think this was around this time,
                also at the same time people started to make everything MVC
                I remember when say old apps were suddenly split into server
                and client component (where client was the webbrowser) because
                "it was easy and quick to design a UI on the browser" tho
                I think this died out.
             \_ Patterns started to become big.
        2010 Slow language fast prototyping scripting. Javascript,
             Ruby on Rails, Python. Use of NoSQL. Protocol buffer.
             \_ This helps chip companies sell faster and bigger chips.  What a
                waste.
             Cloud Computing
             Death of AI
2010/8/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:53913 Activity:nil 66%like:53918
8/8     What are your favorite questions to ask companies whenever they
        say "Do you have any questions?"
2010/8/7-9/3 [Uncategorized] UID:53912 Activity:nil
8/7     Why Google is in favor of "Net Neutrality"
        http://www.digitalsociety.org/2009/11/fcc-nprm-ban-on-paid-peering-harms-new-innovators
        \_ http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Monday/Labovitz_ObserveReport_N47_Mon.pdf
2010/8/7-25 [Industry/Jobs] UID:53911 Activity:moderate
8/6     Slide acquired by Google:
        http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/google-and-slide-building-more-social.html
        -dans
        \_ Are you going to retire now? -ausman
           \_ No.  I'm not quite there yet.  But home ownership looks tempting.
              -dans
        \_ Financially how much better was the exit vs. the amount you could
           have gotten working as a sysadmin in ucb?
           \_ I'm pretty sure UCB sysadmins don't have exits.  What's a
              typical UCB sysadmin make? -dans
              \_ http://www.sacbee.com/statepay/?name=holub&agency=&salarylevel=
                 \_ That's just mean. -dans
                    \_ not as mean as the things tom said to other people
                       in the past 2 decades or so.
                       \_ Call that a job perk.  The opportunity to bitch out
                          people on the motd.  +1 for UC Sysadmin job. -dans
                    \_ Probably overpaid given all the other benefits.
                 \_ I thought government workers were all overpaid. I just
                    looked up a CSUAer who works for the UC and he is making
                    about 2/3 what I would expect to pay for someone of his
                    skill and experince in the private sector. What gives?
                    \_ Offer him a job at the higher rate then. See if he
                       takes it.
                       \_ You are making the mistake of thinking all salary
                          and wages come in the form of cash.
                          \_ I am not sure if he would take the job or not.
                             It's a curious experiment. I think the one
                             making the mistake is the "2/3 salary" guy.
                             If the CSUAer could make 50% more in industry
                             then why isn't he? Could it be because he's
                             in a pretty cushy spot relative to industry?
                             \_ Sorry; clarification, i agree with you,
                                i don't agree with "all compensation is only
                                determined by the absolute value of my
                                paycheck" guy.  He is assuming many things;
                                the least of which is that everyone has
                                identical values.  I can give many instances
                                where people would opt for a lower "pay" but
                                more secure job: single parents (is only one
                                example).
                              \_ Maybe he lives in East Bay and doesn't want
                                 to commute to Silicon Valley. Two extra
                                 hours a day of free time is worth a lot
                                 of money.
                           \_ I have a resume that came across my desk last
                              week which is a Berkeley sysadmin (not this guy).
                              I will probably give him a call. His stated
                              reason for his job search "The UC is not a good
                              place to work for right now." I notice most
                              employees haven't had a raise in four years.
2010/8/4-25 [Uncategorized] UID:53910 Activity:nil
8/4     I'm heading to St. Louis for a couple of days later this month.
        If you have any non-arch-based ideas for stuff to do, pls advise,
        although evenings more likely to be free than daytimes.
        Food recs welcome too, particularly near Washington University.
        BTW, are there any TSEliot-related interesting things at WU?
        ok tnx. --psb
        \_ My mom relocated to Springfield, Missouri but we went to Saint Louis
           to see it while we were out there visiting. Not much to do or
           see. The area near WUSTL is definitely the nicest part of town.
           The Saint Louis Art Museum is pretty good and worth a visit if
           you like art. I never went, but my mom said the Budweiser tour
           was surprisingly good. (And she doesn't even drink beer.)
           was surprisingly good. (And she doesn't even drink beer.) If
           you have a car you might be able to see other things in Missouri
           like the Truman Presidential Library or even Kansas City.
           \- I'm a Wanted man in Kansas City, and a Wanted man in Ohio
2010/8/4-25 [Transportation/Car] UID:53909 Activity:nil
8/4     "China Plans Huge Buses That Can DRIVE OVER Cars (PHOTOS)"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/669166
        WTF!?
2010/8/3-25 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:53908 Activity:nil
8/3     http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599200808100
        'Russia's largest circulation newspaper, Komsomolskaya Pravda, ran a
        headline on July 31 that asked, "Is the Russian heat wave the result
        of the USA testing its climate weapon?" The daily's answer was "Yes,
        probably."'
        Yeah, let us use our climate weapon on the California climate so that
        we can get more rain!
        \_ We don't need any more rain and more rain would eliminate much of
           the appeal of living here. What we need to do is save more of
           the rain that we do get or construct an aqueduct from someplace
           which gets more than its fair share, like Oregon.
           \_ Interstate Water Wars!
2010/8/2-9 [Uncategorized] UID:53907 Activity:nil
8/2     So is soda running on an ESX box? Just curious.
        \_ No.
2010/8/2-25 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:53906 Activity:nil
8/2     Ex-CSUA-er piaw gives advice to Nooglers:
        http://piaw.blogspot.com/2010/08/tips-for-noogler-engineers.html
2010/7/29-8/9 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:53905 Activity:nil
7/29    How do I get pine to work with mail? I have 1900 mails and I want
        to delete them. Or is there a better one to use? never learned
        'mail'..
        \_ mutt
           \_ so why doesn't alpine work? What setting should I use to have
              it work with my csua mail folder? Thanks!
              \_ Use of maildir and apparently a still-broken SSL cert for mail
                 ...seriously, alpine just doesn't support Maildir.
        \_ Reply from root. At least I'm not the only one having issue.
        As far as accessing mail, your mailspool is still accessible via NFS
        on soda: /var/mail/username
        Of course, this mount is only accessible via soda,
        so if you're not using alpine on soda, you'll need to find a different
        way.

        I'd give you more details on configuring alpine to read mailspools,
        but I'm off work soon, and I won't be near a computer for a while
        afterwards. You should be able to google it - sorry for not having
        clear instructions handy.
        \_ Thanks for the detailed reply. I was able to delete my mails via
           mutt. Nice program. -op
2010/7/29-8/9 [Uncategorized] UID:53904 Activity:low
7/29    O great worshipful roots,
        can you please
        apt-get install libtool binutils-dev ruby1.9-dev libmagic-dev?
        Am doing some fun tinkering on the output of libopcodes-  Thx!
        \_ Paolo, your mac has ruby in it already.
        \_ Not if you request over motd. Try emailing root@csua.
           \_ Ah ok, policy shifted.
           \_ Who's on root these days? -!OP
              \_ Check /etc/motd. Derp derp.
2010/7/29-8/9 [Uncategorized] UID:53903 Activity:nil
7/29    Anyone been to or heard things about "Walking With Dinosaurs: Live"?
        This seems so geared to 8 year old boys, but an acquaintance in med
        school in NYC actually recommended this to me so I am more
        interested than I might otherwise be. Will this be worth my time
        and money? I do like dinosaurs, but not as much as when I was 8.
2010/7/28-8/9 [Uncategorized] UID:53902 Activity:nil
7/28    "Zedonk hybrid born at Ga. wildlife preserve"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_odd_newborn_zedonk
        "Wait, honey, I can explain ......"
2010/7/28-8/9 [Uncategorized] UID:53901 Activity:nil
7/28    I have a few relatives who are always on me to do/go see "this, that
        and the other thing" every time i'm on vacation.  I finally figured
        out this was because they can't ever take vacations, and never have
        the time to do the things on that list themselves, and most likely
        want to live vicariously through me.  Issue being is that I really
        don't want to spend my time off rushing about like a madman(1) and
        just to fulfill someone else's checklist(2).  What's a nice iconic
        statement to tell them to fuck off?  (Preferably short, sweet,
        repeatable, --i plan to get a bumpter sticker with this, or a tshirt).
        \_ "Thanks for the pointer, I'll see if we can fit it in."  -tom
           \_ Thanks, tshirt ordered; going to wear it whenever I see them
              and point to the statement whenever they start off with the
              "At your age, you should..."-list.
        \_ I recommend you "Walk with the Dinosaurs".
2010/7/26-8/25 [Reference/Military] UID:53898 Activity:low
7/25    Friend of mine's thinking about joining the armed forces.
        He was thinking either marines or army.  I was going to say that
        marines are far more dangerous, but then I stopped and thought of
        the Three Block War vs. the Navy shelling the crap out of Iraq
        before the  marine had to storm it; is the notion reversed now?
        Does the army has a tougher job/more dangerous job than the marines
        (because occupying is no longer about occupying pro-western areas)?
        \_ well discuss why he wants to do join the armed forces.  If it is
           about getting 'a job' then a 'safer' branch might be for him. If
           he wants to go out and actually see combat action and shoot people
           either of those will do.
        \_ How old is he? Is he psychologically malleable enough for
           brainwashing? Finally, does he have a college degree? -Army Vet
           \_ He's 23, got a degree from san jose state.
              \_ Does he want to be an officer? Is he planning on just doing
                 one tour, or is he thinking about making it a career? In
                 general, I agree with military brat below, the Air Force
                 treats its people the best, though I personally would
                 way rather be in the field than cooped up in a ship.
                 way rather be in the field than cooped up on a ship.
                 If you just want to do a short tour of duty as an enlisted
                 man to check it
                 man to check it out, then the shortest tour of duty is probably
                 advised, this usually means Army.
                 \_ I thought if you had a degree they put you as an officer?
                    Or is that an urban legend..
                    \_ A degree is no guarantee of commission, in fact one of
                       my seargents had a BS and was trying to get sent to OCS.
                       \_ How scary was your tour? (I told him airforce btw)
                          \_ I was in the 82nd Airborne, so it was pretty
                             tough, but I got a lot out of it.
           \_ What's your take on this:
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_block_war
              It sounds like a total nightmare to me. :-(
              \_ It sounds like a good recognition of what the US Army should
                 have realized a long time ago: the need to better train their
                 small unit leaders in subjects beyond just small arms and
                 fieldcraft.
                 \_ How about we train our mility to fight in guerilla style?
                    It seems like no national militaries do that.  Is there a
                    reason?
                    \_ guerilla tactics don't accomplish our military goals.
                    \_ We did. a longtime ago.  Look up "frontier fighting"
                       in any history book in the 80s and 90s.  Doubt it
                       would be in any book now but yes, the US Armed forces
                       fought guerilla style wars against the British under
                       Mr. Founding Father Geo. Washington.  It was of course
                       Highly successful against troops that were taught at
                       Blenheim or Aughrim other conv. theatre in Europe.
                       \_ Oh how the wheel turns.
                       \_ This is a U.S. myth; it was only after we got
                          better at using rank and file tactics that we
                          started winning battles.  -tom
                    \_ Read up on "inflitration tactics" though this it not
                       strictly guerilla style. You can't really take and
                       hold territory that way.
        \_ My whole family is military: Army and Air Force. Tell him to
           join the Air Force. It's almost civil. Whatever you do, stay
           out of the Army. It's the definition of grunt and they treat
           you like it. I say this as a person with a Lieutenant Colonel
           in his family and a West Point grad Colonel step-relative.
           Marines isn't much better, but at least it is a small
           fraternity of men who serve with honor. If I were to join I'd
           choose Air Force and Navy in that order.
           \_ My dad was Navy for 35 years; started out as E-1 and finished
              as O-5; got sponsored for OCS and got his Bachelors/Masters
              while in. If your buddy bears grudges, can't let things go,
              and can't get goal-oriented, no branch of the service will
              advance him. If your buddy is looking for travel, training,
              and opportunity, go Navy, or, as above, Air Force.
              \_ Why do you say "bears grudges"? Why is a forgiving nature
                 important to career success in the military?
                 \_ Military life, like civilian life, has plenty of
                    jerks, both as coworkers and bosses. Being
                    constructive with your frustration is fine and will
                    generally be rewarded; rising to bait, mouthing off,
                    and letting the minutiae get to you, however, will
                    hold you back. In theory, if you study your material,
                    pass advancement-oriented tests, and do your time,
                    you will advance; in reality, if you get written up
                    for fighting or otherwise being immature, you will
                    not advance. Buddy of mine, whip-smart, did great on
                    the tests, impressed the Captain and XO with his
                    reliability, and was headed for promotion, but he
                    couldn't keep his temper or let go of small slights,
                    and he got written up. After five years of failing
                    to advance, he gave up and bowed out. That's all I
                    mean.
                    \_ Yeah, I got into a lot of conflict with people when
                       I was in, I can see how that would not work if you
                       wanted to make a career out of it.
2010/7/25-8/25 [Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:53897 Activity:nil
7/25    What's up with that moving bit pattern that Win7 displays when it
        boots up?  (It's the one that's like in the Apple II days when you
        use the graphics memory for code or data while it's still in HGR
        mode.)  Is there a way to disable that?  It slows things down a lot
        every time I reboot my Win7 VM on my office machine if I RDP to the
        machine via DSL.  Thanks in advance.
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2010/8/29-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:53942 Activity:nil
8/29    OC turning liberal, maybe there is hope for CA afterall:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/us/politics/30orange.html
2010/8/29-9/3 [Recreation/Humor, Politics/Foreign/Europe, Computer/Theory] UID:53940 Activity:nil
8/29    http://www.google.nl/trends?q=ramadan,+porno&ctab=0&geo=ma&date=all&sort=0
        Funny graph.  -- linkpusher
2010/8/23-9/3 [Reference/Tax, Politics/Domestic/California/Prop] UID:53934 Activity:nil
9/19    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/bell/la-me-city-property-tax-table,0,5895218.htmlstory
        Poor cities pay more % of prop tax than wealthy cities.
        Compton pays 1.5% prop tax.
        \_ poor people also pay more for groceries. and taxes and in general
           everything.  It's why rich people stay rich.  I love $2 country
           club burgers!
        \_ Maybe it's because the average property value in poor cities are
           lower than those in rich cities, such that a higher prop tax % rate
           doesn't translate to higher proper tax dollar?  And maybe it's also
           because poor cities need to provide more service per capita than
           rich cities?
        \_ it's ok to make fun of the poor again. Just call them The Offline.
           remember you're at the top of Digital Darwinism, you're online
           with your iphone because the Digital God gave you the best genes.
2010/8/17-9/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Industry/Jobs] UID:53926 Activity:nil
8/17    Private sector growing, public sector shrinking:
        http://finance.yahoo.com/news/If-Private-Sector-Is-Hiring-cnbc-4039402657.html?x=0
        \_ starve the beast!
        \_ why do  they never count the armed forces as employment
2010/7/27-8/25 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Tax] UID:53900 Activity:nil
7/25    Is there a polite way to tell a recruiter "too busy at the moment
        but keep me in mind for future stuff."  Or  "not in that field at
        this exact moment but am switching positions over the next few
        months for your role, keep me in mind" ?  Thx.
        \_ You know what, recruiters have thick skins.  You won't hurt
           their feelings.  Go ahead, try, you can't possibly get them down.
           Tell them you have a job, and you'll keep them in mind next
           time you are unemployed.
        \_ I think you have it right there. Recruiters in general don't mind
           it if you are direct with them.
        \_ I had THREE different recruiters from Amazon at different
           quarters. Each time, I tell them "Sorry I have no interest
           in going to Seattle." The third time, I told them "I hate
           Seattle and if you want to attract real talent, setup an
           office in Silicon Valley. Stop bothering me." I finally
           got them to stop.
           \_ A co-worker of mine requested to be transferred from here to the
              Seattle branch of the company in the '90s so that he could avoid
              paying state income tax and maybe state capital gain tax on his
              huge stock earnings.
              \_ Word. Not to mention stupid CA laws.
              \_ I know a few people who moved to .ca just for that reason too.
2010/7/26-8/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:53899 Activity:low
7/25    Some bank now lets you photo a check for a deposit with your
        phone.  What do you guys think?
        \_ It's a fine line between clever and stupid.
        \_ It's USAA and it's awesome. They trust their customers, and no,
           you can't join.
           \_ Looks like a Chase ad to me?
           \_ Wouldn't want to.  Sounds like a headline waiting to happen.
              \_ How can you search for banks that actually keep their
                 online presence to a minimum?  Trying to find one that  is
                 extremely conservative when it comes to online crap.
                 \_ Why?
                    \_ No interest in that lifestyle.
                       \_ Using computers is a "lifestyle?" Log off the CSUA
                          then pervert!
                          \_ I have no interest in the smartphone religion
                             please don't proselytize it.
                             \_ Thou shalt ssh to soda from your droid or
                                Burn in Everlasting Hellfire!
           \_ I will laugh hard when they announce your bank is getting rid
              of ATMs because "our users can just use their cell phones!"
              \_ not gonna happen until cell phones can print cash.
                 \_ Cash? Only Terrorists and the people who support
                    terror industries use untraceable funds. :-P
                 \_ What is this cash thing?  Some archaic system?
                    -- NTT DoCoMo Micropayments User
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