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| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37893 Activity:nil |
5/31 For Pynchon fans, this month's Bookforum has an article describing
the publication of GR from the perspective of the publisher, Viking,
as well as appreciations by assorted contemporary authors.
http://www.bookforum.com/pynchon.html
- ciyer |
| 2005/5/31-6/1 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:37894 Activity:moderate |
5/30 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.amnestyintl/index.html Who has more credibility, Amnesty International or Cheney? Also do you believe in Cheney's prediction that fighting would be over before the next administration? \_ Yeah A.I. is totally right. Comparing abuses of prisoners in Cuba to the Soviet Gulags where 16 million died. \_ False argumentation. Cheney: "our abuses aren't so bad, and we've done a bunch of good things, and human rights violators are entirely bad, so because we're not quite that bad, we're not human rights violators." Righteous indignation, indeed. As for gulags, it's a poorly chosen figure of speech. Just like "concentration camps"--invented by the British, remember? -John \_ but we just have queer makeover camps \_ AI has it right -- the bar is much higher for the U.S. (a little abuse goes a long way), so the comparison is fair. Cheney may be viewed as being more arrogant than combative, Cheney may be viewed as being more arrogant more than combative, and is also practicing defining reality. \_ I wish you could grow up in a 3rd world country to see what a little goes a long way really means. \_ This is awesome. That the US is not as bad as a 3rd country is hardly a defence. Are there any other 1st world \_ This is awesome. That the US is not as bad as a 3rd world country is hardly a defence. Are there any other 1st world countries that hold people indefinitely without a trial and torture them for information? \_ There is a hell of a lot of torture that goes on in American prisions, too, mostly in the form of prisoner on prisoner rape. This oftens leads to HIV, too. The authorities could stop this, but choose not to. authorities could stop this, but choose not too. \_ "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality." \_ "our abuses aren't so bad" -- what kind of talk is that from the "leader of the free world". Sounds kinda like this guy: General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks. |
| 2005/5/31-6/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37895 Activity:nil |
5/30 http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Spring03/Zentz/history%20page.htm http://saugus.byu.edu/writing/contest/fall2002/ethical_journalism.html "Media coverage of Vietnam was a rare exception in the history of combat coverage by the American media. Never before had the press been granted such access to the war zone. And never again would they. That war served as a lesson to the government and a pinnacle of freedom for the media" \_ I think that's because the US wasn't technically at war, unlike, say, during WWII. \_ that is technality. I personally find it alarming to allow President to initiate an arm conflict in a massive scale without declaration of war. |
| 2005/5/31-8/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:37896 Activity:low |
5/31 /csua/tmp is full! Clean yer shit!
\_ Either clean up yer shit, or I will clean it up for you and impose
nasty and unfair quotas upon you all! Muahahahah. - jvarga
\_ how about just deleting everything that's not world-readable?
-tom
\_ Please delete /csua/tmp/dailyshow, or I will report it to campus
authorities as a copyright violation enabled by the CSUA.
\- just run "find /csua/tmp -mtime +60 -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf"
\_ i wish kai's motd would tell me who mr anonymous
is. - danh
\_ let's petition to politburo to change it to track every
single poster. I'm sick and tired of libertarian motd,
it's a chaos. Let's change it to totalitarian motd.
\_ ooh yeah, the first thing I think of when I look at
online forums which people are required to post
non-anonymously is "totalitarian." Like those
slashdot nazis.
Of course, to be truly "free" we should just
make all the users on soda have the same UID, and
the market will enforce security for your files. -tom
\- just run "find /csua/tmp -mtime +60 -print0 | xargs -0 rm"
that's what "tmp" means.
\_ Interesting. This got deleted and doesn't show up in kais motd.
Hey kchang! What else are you censoring?
\_ Do you mean intellidiff or kais motd? Kais motd seems to
be updated so infrequently that it's almost useless on
fine grain stuff.
\_ Not very bright are you? The FAQ specifically says Kais Motd
fetches randomly, every 1-2 hours. In addition, there is no
connection between Kais Motd and 24HourDiff. 24HourDiff
\_ So you throw the information away? Your
FAQ says nothing about them being
separate. Rather stupid implementation
IMO.
\_ What's your IP? Let me implement
a special feature for you but I
need your IP. Email me -kchang
\_ This sounds like the
features I keep getting in
the mail from Microsoft.
fetches at a much finer grain detail, and just because it
gets updated doesn't mean it'll show up on Kais Motd. I've
said this before and I'll say it again. Go read the FAQ,
it has implementation details. Dweeb. -kchang
\_ Agreed.
\_ because its stupid. because it makes people do cron jobs
like 'find /csua/tmp -user `whoami` | xargs -0 touch'
Lesson learned, I store stuff off of soda...
\_ Thank you.
\_ What if I have a file named "Hello /". Notice the space
and the forward slash. Would that get parsed as
"\rm -rf Hello /" ?
\_ Dunno, but I just tried to test this and it seems that
"/" is not allowed in a filename. I couldn't do it no
matter how I escaped it.
\_ '/' is one of the few characters file and directory names
are absolutely forbidden to contain in UNIX filesystems.
You wont be abel to create a filename containing it
short of going outside the filesystem and directly
changing characters on the disk.
\_ '/' is one of the few characters file and directory
names are absolutely forbidden to contain in UNIX
filesystems. You wont be abel to create a filename
\_ Can I be cain?
containing it short of going outside the filesystem
and directly changing characters on the disk.
\_ There are some issues with auto-deletion, but this is not
one of them. It can be done safely but it takes some
caution. (I don't really agree it's the right approach
for /csua/tmp). -tom
\_ man find and look at the -delete option. It's a safe way
to avoid the issue you're raising. -dans
\_ how about du -sk /csua/tmp/* | sort -n
and then wipe out the top 20 offenders?
\_ using space in /csua/tmp doesn't make you an "offender." -tom
\_ Or until 50% is free. |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37897 Activity:nil |
5/31 Anyone else get this spam?
Call out Gouranga be happy!!!
Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga ....
That which brings the highest happiness!!
\_ Yeah, a long time ago.
\_ It's a hare krishna chant. They're trying to brainwash you. -John
\_ GOURANGA!! -gta fan |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Uncategorized] UID:37898 Activity:nil |
5/31 How do you write a rejection letter? "Company X, thank you for
the offer, but I've decided to take on a different
opportunity, blabla....." How do I say it nicely?
\_ Sounds like you are doing fine there. |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:37899 Activity:nil |
5/31 Yearbook picture of boy voted "most whipped" features boy wearing
leash.
http://csua.org/u/c86
Angry editorial (includes picture)
http://csua.org/u/c87
\_ did you mean to post the same URL twice?
\_ Those same people probably have no problem seeing Jet Li wearing a
leash held by Morgan Freeman.
\_ That girlfriend looks like Jenna Bush. Ah, it's all Dubya's fault!
\_ "School officials will use stickers to cover the offending photo.
They want the 240 students who already received their books to
return them for alteration." -bwwwwaaaaaahahahha.
\_ I wish I had a girlfriend in high school.
\_ If she's underaged then it's not legal. |
| 2005/5/31-6/1 [Recreation/Celebrity/ParisHilton] UID:37900 Activity:high |
5/31 I hate to say this but Paris Hilton's mom is HOT. She is so much
classier and better looking than Paris. She's a MILF. *DROOOOL*
\_ http://www.kimrichards.net/Kathy/photos.html
Why does this woman look suspiciously like the MILF in the American
Pie movies?
\_ she looks like Zsa Zsa Gabor to me
\_ Is there anyone less classy than Paris Hilton? I think even
Anna Nicole Smith is classier.
\_ I'm sure you can find someone less classy. That doesn't change
the fact that she's rich white trash.
\_ So, let me get this straight, not to put words into your
mouth or anything, but (assuming you're an even remotely
heterosexual male) if PH showed up at your door in a tiny
satin basque and said "oh, [your name here] you manly stud,
take me now", you wouldn't at least consider it? -John
\_ Hot? She looks so ordinary. I saw many moms that were way hotter
than her at the Oakland Zoo this past Sunday, with ample bosoms and
slim waists and stuff.
\_ that may be true but they're probably not as well dressed and
well mannered as Mrs. Hilton. Also, most likely, they don't
have a chauffer and a house full of butlers and maids. I'll go
for Mrs. Hilton over pretty bimbos in the zoo any time. The
question is, will she go for people like us? No. |
| 2005/5/31-6/1 [Science/Space] UID:37901 Activity:insanely high |
5/31 \_ Um. The central claim that life cannot arise by a blind process is
falsifiable. If Darwinists succeed in creating a plausible (or
better yet, reproducible) story for life's creation that will
falsify the claim. The argument that something that doesn't make
experimentally falsifiable claims is not science is extremely weak.
It's certainly true, but many things that aren't science make
falsifiable claims. -- ilyas
\_ Is it really ilyas? I mean, it may be theoretically, but not
practically. I maintain my assertion that ID has not produced
any prediction that can be tested. Since you've not produced a
definition of what "life" constitutes, your "falsifiable"
prediction can't actually be tested (though you seem to believe
that RNA alone isn't "life"). -emarkp
\_ I don't really understand. If someone creates a bacterium
in a tube using a 'mechanical process' that would falsify
the claim in a practical way that seems reasonable to me.
I am not prepared to address the complex question of what
life is, but for the purposes of this discussion we can take
'alive' to mean 'a working reproductive cell, a bacterium.'
The latter is certainly a subset of the former.
What do you mean by falsifiable, then? By the way, these kinds
of negative falsifiable claims are very common in AI.
For instance 'a computer program will never beat a human
world chess champion.' -- ilyas
\_ Modern bacteria are themselves the product of billions of
years of evolution. I don't think it's reasonable to expect
to put some stuff in a tube, shake it around etc., and get
bacteria. I personally think it's quite likely that life is
very highly improbable. In any event, just a couple hundred
years ago people still believed in spontaneous generation.
In general I find it absurd when people's response to
something they don't understand is invoking the
supernatural. It doesn't answer the underlying question
anyway; if evolution is a problem because it doesn't fully
explain the first bacteria, then ID is a problem because it
doesn't explain the intelligence.
\_ [nevermind]
\_ This is begging the question. If the bacteria are too
complex to be produced directly, produce an intermediate
step, and then construct a story for how you get a
sequence of intermediate steps that would produce,
over time, and in a completely mechanical way, a working
bacterium. There is currently no such story, but if
such a story were created (by logical argument, computer
simulation, whatever) then that would falsify the ID
claim. This is difficult, but not impractical (serious
scientists are working on this very problem). I still
don't really understand your objections. Also, for the
47th time, I am not defending ID as either a credible
scientific movement nor an alternative to darwinian
biology. -- ilyas
\_ Wrong, as usual. A line of reasoning doesn't
falsify ID; just because you can come up with a
way that something could have happened doesn't mean
that it happened that way. -tom
\_ You seem to be confusing 'cannot' with 'did not.'
It's certainly possible to falsify 'cannot.' It
may be possible to falsify 'did not.' -- ilyas
\_ Correct, but it still puts paid to ID's basic
tenet that 'x must have happened because of y
because x is so complex that it couldn't have
happened any other way.' By creating a plausible
line of reasoning (in this case, how a bacterium
could evolve naturally) you debunk 'y' as a root
cause. Remember "any sufficiently advanced
science is indistinguishable from magic"? Once
you empirically explain a phaenomenon, you place
it into the realm of science and completely
remove all the superstitious voodoo crap. -John
\_ that sounds like something a LIBERAL would say!
\_ So, we can't reconcile quantum mechanics with GR.
Does that mean they're both false?
\_ You made the claim that ID had falsifiable
predictions. -emarkp
\_ Well, so ID is not verifiable but the claim is
falsifiable. How many other scientific realms
work like this? I'm not aware of any. It does not
seem to fall under the realm of the scientific
method. It's just an assertion... even if people
figure out a chain of events leading to replicating
pre-rna/rna/proteins etc. then ID can still claim
this stuff was "designed" to happen.
\_ I am not sure what you mean by 'verifiable,' but
no empirical theory can be definitely concluded to
be true, including relativity, evolution, etc.
This is why falsifiability is important -- a theory
is deemed stronger if it can withstand repeated
attempts to falsify its claims. Evolution itself
had to be modified multiple times in the face of
legidimate (partial) falsifications. To repeat
myself yet again, I am not defending ID as a
scientific movement. In response to your last
sentence, I think the main ID claim as I understand
it has some 'teeth,' and Darwinists would be wise
to neither ignore nor attempt to discredit its
source. -- ilyas
\_ They can't be definitely concluded true but
they can be experimentally verified, e.g.
relativity predicts X we test for X, natural
selection being induced, etc. ID differs in
this respect. That main claim about life
being unable to arise without intelligent
design seems a different sort of beast. Not
the sort of thing one could really teach in
any substantive fashion, other than merely
mentioning it as a belief. It just says that
until we have "hard" verifiable theory about
exactly how cells arose, then we have to
talk about the "theory" that this was
impossible. I dunno, I'll go ahead and ignore.
\_ See below. I think the difference is in
degree, not kind. Claims about the origin
of life are more akin to cosmology or string
theory claims -- falsifiable, but requiring
immense resources for appropriate experiments
to be conducted. This does not invalidate
the claims, it just shows how important they
are. -- ilyas
\_ ^ what he said. I suspect you know what I mean by
"falsifiable" -- a truth claim that can be proven false by
a test. However, just because a hypothetical truth
statement can be falsified it doesn't mean it's useful or
seriously admissible. When ID can suggest an experiement
that doesn't take an infinite amount of time to attempt to
falsify (defining terms and initial conditions, etc.) then
it should be addressed. Not before. -emarkp
\_ Another thought: if the claim is that life can't arise by
chance, I don't see how creating a 'living organism' in the
lab would disprove that. It would have to arise by chance,
wouldn't it? -emarkp
\_ That's a little obtuse, sorry. Miller's experiment was
famous precisely because he created laboratory conditions
which reasonably duplicated conditions that could have
arisen by chance during early Earth's history. -- ilyas
\_ yeah, I'm sure the inability to create life by random
chance in a laboratory has great relevance to
whether it was possible to create life by random
chance on a sphere with a surface area of 200 million
square miles. Tell us about the stars, ilyas. -tom
\_ Tom, you are a dumbass. I said that IF someone
succeeds in doing task X in a lab (or by computer
simulation), that it would falsify claim Y. I
never implied that ANYTHING follows if task X
cannot be done. That's all you. -- ilyas
\_ Right, and since we can't prove that the stars
aren't sentient, they might be. Go tilt
at windmills because they might be giants. -tom
\_ Nice red herring. Do you even know what
falsifiability means? -- ilyas
\_ No, but I know that arguing with ID
people is exactly like arguing with
you; any time you try to pin them down,
they claim they meant something else.
-tom
\_ Well, tom, if you knew what
falsifiability meant, you would see
that during the 2 threads now I haven't
changed any conventional definitions
to suit my rhetorical aims as you seem
to imply. By the way, that's two
red herrings in one thread.
Impressive. -- ilyas
\- The Open MOTD and its Enemies.
\_ I'm familiar with Miller's experiment. However, his
experiment wasn't chance and any ID supporter could
argue that point. Or simply move the bar up and say
that amino acids aren't sufficient. -emarkp
\_ Yes of course. Miller's experiment does not
falsify the 'cannot' claim.
\_ Then what can? -emarkp
\_ I already said, either:
(a) an experiment like Miller's (perhaps on
a much larger scale)
that results in a reproducible cell from
components that are reasonable to assume
to exist. Or:
(b) An accurate computer simulation of the
underlying chemistry, meant to accelerate
the time, if that's what's needed.
At this point scientists haven't even
been able to produce a story in English,
let alone in forms (a) or (b). Whether (a)
or (b) will convince ID people I don't know,
but it will convince _me_. -- ilyas
\_ (a) may not be possible.
(b) why should we trust a computer
simulation? If our model is incorrect,
it won't predict anything accurately.
Also, simulating a large system of
organic molecules interacting is probably
impossible. -emarkp
\_ I was giving the general form of the
answer I would find acceptable.
Obviously one can quibble about
various details of the experiment and
simulation (and people do, and
should!) But those are details. The
important thing, to me, is that I can
see an experiment that _would_ falsify
the claim. It may be too large, too
impractical an experiment, but it is
still an experiment. String theory is
only falsifiable in an extremely
expensive way (you need a really BIG
accelerator), and while it receives
some criticisms for it, it is not
dismissed outright. The underlying
nature of reality is an important and
complex problem, as is the origin of
life. It's not unreasonable that a
falsifiable experiment should be very
expensive or difficult to conduct. If
not, we may have been done by now!
-- ilyas
\_ String theory is a great example of
something comparable to ID. It has
no way to test it experimentally.
Hopefully the attempt to create
tiny black holes will test it, but
even that is kind of iffy.
I'd be satisfied if advocates of an
abiogenesis theory from chance
simply said "this is a guess, that
we may never be able to prove."
Evolution on the other hand is a
different story. -emarkp
[oh, and please format 80 cols]
\_ wtf are you guys talking about. All you need is to 100% prove any
supernatural phenomenon, and you go light years ahead in terms of
making people believe God / aliens created us.
\_ This is probably never going to happen for much the same reasons
that AI doesn't get credit for its successes. Once people figure
out how to program a computer to do task X thought previously
to require intelligence, people quickly give up their intuitions
that task X _does_ require intelligence. Similarly, if someone
reproduces a 'supernatural' phenomenon in a lab, physicists will
get on the case, and things will cease to be supernatural before
long. I think it's mostly a matter of point of view than anything
else. I think even in the realm of scientifically understood
phenomena, the Universe is a magical place. -- ilyas
phenomena, the Universe is a magical place. In a vaguely related
piece of news, someone solved checkers. -- ilyas
\_ shrug, all you need to show me is that you can part seas just
by willing it, feed 5,000 people to satiety with five loaves
of bread and two fish and come out with 12 baskets of
leftovers, or walk on water.
\_ Sufficiently advanced technology, etc.
\_ I am led to believe that this had occurred without
"sufficiently advanced technology, etc."
\_ Valis, Erich von Daniken, etc. :-) -John |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37902 Activity:nil |
5/31 Woodward and Bernstein confirm that W. Mark Felt was "Deep Throat."
See washington post.
\_ Linda Lovelace is turning over in her grave!
\_ She didn't die. In fact, she was born again.
\_ Which came first?
\_ I don't think LL ever came for real.
\_ "On several occasions he confided to me, 'I'm the guy they used to
call "Deep Throat,"' ... [Felt] still has qualms about his actions,
but he also knows that historic events compelled him to behave as
he did: standing up to an executive branch intent on obstructing
his agency's pursuit of the truth. ...
Felt, having long harbored the ambivalent emotions of pride and
self-reproach, has lived for more than 30 years in a prison of his
own making, a prison built upon his strong moral principles and his
unwavering loyalty to country and cause. But now, buoyed by his
family's revelations and support, he need feel imprisoned no
longer."
\_ I'm waiting for a Deep Throat equivalent for GWB. Let's pray for it.
\_ Deep Fist is actually our own Tom Holub! You heard it here first!
\_ And he failed to change GWB's Regime of Incompetency.
Homeland Security begins with regime change, at our homeland.
\_ Not going to happen. Loyalty to GWB is paramount to those in
a position close enough to affect the administration. The
American public has accepted that the current admin engaged in
Operation Iraqi Freedom with less than solid proof. Mr Bush's
Splendid Little War will fall through the same cracks as Reagan's
Iran-Contra dealings. History will judge in another 50 years.
\_ Actually, a majority of Americans still thinks that Saddam
had WMDs.
\_ They also can't find Canada on a map, can't tell you when
WWII happened, can't identify when Jesus lived to within
a hundred years, and can't solve a quadratic equation.
My mom teaches college freshman, and started giving them
a quiz sometimes to see if these things you hear about
Americans' ignorance are true. They are.
\_ And most still think SH had terrorist ties. GWB has
reached teflon levels with this. |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37903 Activity:nil |
5/31 Mad about suicide bombing? Attack a KFC!
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/31/asia/web.0531pakistan.php
\_ Blame the West first!
\_ Two frozen in the freezer. So do terrorists give you a choice now?
Either get blown to pieces or frozen to death? |
| 2005/5/31-6/5 [Uncategorized] UID:37904 Activity:nil |
5/31 How do I do anonymous FTP to http://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu from another machine? Thanks. \_ This may be related: |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37905 Activity:nil |
5/31 I've noticed weird things in the past few months where Fox News
does a 180 and writes unpatriotic op-ed. Why is this happening?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157960,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157948,00.html
The first one says US has a long history of bad judgements
(war) and the second one criticizes US and its citizens.
\_ Reverse psychology
\_ They can see which way the wind is blowing and are trying
to get ahead of it. |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:37906 Activity:nil |
5/31 Has anyone seen the new Honda Civic commercial where they put a
crash dummy outside of the car and then use the Civic to drive
into that dummy? Then they say something to the effect "We don't
just care about the people inside, we also care about the people
outside."
\_ Honda's campaign called "Safety for Everyone". ACE body structure,
side airbags, stability control, etc... making these standard on
their latest releases (and any future models).
\_ Interesting. According to Court TV, automobile is the best
murder weapon because you have a much better chance at getting
involuntary manslaughter (rather than first degree) and
minimal jail time. This move from Honda would turn away would
be car murderers to other manufacturers, like Hummer. -troller |
| 2005/5/31-6/2 [Recreation/Media] UID:37907 Activity:moderate |
5/31 No Sith Reviews yet?
\_ I hear there's this thing called the Internet now.
\_ Sith? What are Sith? You spoiled the fucking movie now, asshole!
\_ Sith is a plural word?? Thanks a lot buddy.
\_ It didn't suck and is worth seeing.
\_ You are a cruel son-of-a-bitch. -dans
\_ why? !pp
\_ My take on it is that I don't get the 2.5 hours of my
life back. This runs counter to pp's assessment.
Fortunately I saw it on Google's dime so at least I
didn't pay to suffer. -dans
\_ how many hours yave you spent on this stupid flame
war? Are you under the impression that you'll get
those hours of your life back?
\_ Roughly 45 minutes. But unlike Episode III, the
flamewar amuses me, and, thus, is a worthwhile use
of my time. -dans
\_ I feel sorry for you and your kind. Admit it now
that you wouldn't have been happy with anything
Lucas put out. You guys are always so overly
critical, and it's very annoying.
\_ Yah, I don't see what the big deal is. Ep3
was a flawed film with a lot of problems, but
nonetheless I still found it to be very
entertaining. That IS the point of going to a
film for the vast majority of us.... -mice
\_ Actually it has nothing to do with Lucas, or
Star Wars. The movie sucked. It was over
two hours of bad dialogue, overly long fight
scenes in need of an editor. I was not
entertained. Incidentally, I thought the
whole Lord of the Rings trilogy was basically
an unwatchable hack job too. But, really, I
can't do anywhere near the justice to how bad
Episodes 1-3 were as this New Yorker article
does: http://csua.org/u/c8d
-dans
\_ Maybe you should stop going to movies.
\_ There was recently a list published
somewhere of "100 top films of all time."
It's nowhere near perfect or complete, but
has some good, solid and artistically
worthy works. I recommend having a look
at some of them. Remember, a movie does
not have to be "good" to be entertaining,
and THERE'S NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH
OVERLY LONG FIGHT SCENES AND BAD DIALOGUE.
What are you, a communist? -John
\_ I can't actually tell if you're being
sarcastic or not, but, by definition,
there's something wrong with overly
long fight scenes and bad dialogue. As
the term would suggest, overly long
fight scenes are, well, overly long.
And bad dialogue is, well, bad. -dans
\_ You're obviously the kind of person
who's never come home from work to
play Doom 2 with the automatic
double-barrelled shotgun unlimited
ammo cheat. You wouldn't understand
the aethereal qualities inherent in
truly bad dialogue and overly long
fight scenes. I sentence you to
watch Errol Flynn movies. -John
\_ Oh, how wrong you are...
a) I think Errol Flynn rules
b) I'm more partial to the
chainsaw cheat
c) Sorry fanboy, Episode 3, while
better than 1 and 2, was still
that bad. I mean, for
chrissakes, Jar-Jar lives!
-dans
\_ Who you calling fanboy, you
commie bastard?! I am simply
commenting on the necessity
of bad dialogue and overly
long fight scenes. And I kind
of liked Ep2. In that case I
sentence you to Plan 9 from
Outer Space, where the bad
dialogue almost-but-not-quite
makes up for lack of overly
long fight scenes. -John
\_ Hold on a second. John,
the European socialist is
accusing me of being a
commie. That's rich. -dans
\_ Um. He lives in Helvetia.
He's no socialist. Heck,
I want to move there.
-- ilyas
\_ Yes, but despite your
intelligence, you are
completely and utterly
irrational, and
Obviously you haven't seen the girls who run around -> detached from
here on a hot summer day. ilyas is displaying -> reality. So I really
pretty sound judgment, if you ask me. -> don't consider your
opinion to be a
useful gauge of,
well, anything. -dans
\_ Please. Moving half-way around the world for opinion to be a
pretty girls? There are lots of hot chicks useful gauge of, well,
right here in SF. Variety too. -dans anything. -dans
\_ Dans, meet heil cherman
chohn guy. You probably
pirated that movie, you
damn Hollywood-hating
long hair. What would
Bud Day say? -John
\_ Well, I will readily admit that it felt
like they got the guy on the set with
plumber's ass to write all the romantic
dialogue. Thank god most of that was over
within the first twenty minutes. I don't
think I'd have been able to sit through
the film if it had gone on. -mice
\_ Maybe you should stop going to movies.
\_ Why? Because I have standards? I
thought Fight Club and Requiem for a
Dream were fantastic. Spiderman 2 was
no magnum opus, but I enjoyed it quite a
bit. Hell, I liked Hitchhikers'. -dans
\_ Implying that anyone disagreeing
with you has no standards? That's
just damn silly.
\_ I was not the one that suggested I
stop going to movies. -dans
\_ I wasn't impressed with that review. He's
clearly impressed with his own wit. But I
\_ And you clearly are not a regular reader
of the New Yorker -dans
frankly think he misses the point. He's
going off on rambles about the movie's
philosophy and "vulgarity". And character
names, for chrissake. I mean, whatever.
None of this stuff is new.
By the way, I recommend that you all go
and watch the animated "Clone Wars Vol. 1"
which helps explain a couple things and
really just has a lot of cool action and
minimum bad dialogue. A DVD rip is out
there on bittorrent if you want to stiff
Lucas and all the various production and
distribution staff out of their $15 like
I did. I haven't seen any of Vol. 2.
As for Sith, and LOTR for that matter,
I actually was more upset with some of
the LOTR aspects. Sith entertained me
more. Yes there are instances of laughably
bad dialogue and acting but overall the
sheer grandiosity of the thing was well
worth the price of admission. Assuming
you like such fluff in general.
\_ I saw Clone Wars Vol 1 and 2 and it
made me excited to watch Episode III.
I was disappointed by epIII. They
Should have made the Clone Wars into
a real movie and skipped this movie.
\_ If they were gonna skip movies,
they should've skipped EP2 and
EP1 (in that order). If you're
gonna skip EP3, you might as well
skip the whole prequel trilogy.
(Not a bad idea, actually...) |
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5/31 http://csua.com/?wiki=1 I'm looking for volunteers to update MOTD WIKI, someone to update definitions like Ding!, ilyased, squish, etc. If you're interested please email me and I'll give you an account. Thanks. -kchang \_ Stupid question. How exactly does one email you? finger: kchang: no such user \_ /csua/bin/finger kchang \_ my name, at soda. If I don't respond it probably went to /dev/null thanks to spamassassin, in which case just post your login. Thanks. -kchang \_ oh, and you can ADD words too with the account. \_ I propose the first volunteer create a list of previously squished users to the Wiki, along with details on why the user was squished \_ Dear Anonymous Fuckhead Coward, Every person of substance I have ever met has made mistakes in his/her past. Some of these mistakes were minor, some were spectacular, ranging from outright stupid to inconsiderate to just plain evil. I count these individuals as people of substance in part because they learned from their past mistakes. But more importantly, they now spend their time engaging in interesting pursuits and creating useful and beautiful works. I often wonder if the current state of affairs persists in spite of those past mistakes or because of them. So, other than trying to punish people for sins of yesteryear, what have you been up to lately? -dans sins of yesteryear, what have you been up to lately? -Dubya \_ Actually I think it would be entertaining to read about the history of squishage. I for one would like to be remembered as the h0zer who is foolish enough to try to bring down the entire EECS network by fingering it once a second. -kchang \_ That was only a near squish. \_ Tried to? I _did_ bring down the network with a simple program that does while true fork(). Why would you want to be remembered as a h0zer? \_ I can see how you would not want to be remembered for \_ I can see how you would to not want to be remembered for the actual time you got squished. \_ apparently EECS does not like your 'finger', haha -troll \_ tien, can you beat this h0zer? http://csua.com/?entry=32148 \_ Uh, I guess not. -tien |
| 2005/5/31 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:37909 Activity:nil |
5/31 "Respectable" Terrorists"
(W. Mark Felt aka "Deep Throat" sounds like a stand up guy!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1414117/posts -jblack
\_ [ip address replaced for the thousanth time, and for the thousanth
time, fuck you.]
\_ If it bothers you that much, just nuke his stuff until he
complies or until you get shouted down. He's probably just
trying to piss you off, you know.
\_ Fuck you jblack. Go back to your Red Neck Virginia state. |
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