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| 2001/11/23-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23090 Activity:low |
11/22 Is there anyway with javascript to clear out the explorer history
cache(in the url entry box), or a way to close the current
explorer window?
\_ window.close() closes the current window. |
| 2001/10/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22761 Activity:low |
10/17 The software technology, according to industry sources, would
essentially act as a downloader, repeatedly requesting the same file
and downloading it very slowly, essentially preventing others from
accessing the file. While stopping short of a full denial-of-service
attack, the method could substantially clog the target computer's
Internet connection.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2818064,00.html
\_ yeah, like this tactic won't be effectively nullified in the
next release of whichever file-sharing program is being targetted,
or at worst the release after the next
\_ Sounds like a job for caching proxy servers.
\_ GO CLICKARRAY!
10/17
"The integration of Passport into XP seems to be pointless," said
Child, a high school student from Atherton, Calif. "I don't know why
Passport can't just stay in Web sites where it belongs. The only
explanation is that Microsoft wants to begin to integrate Passport
into applications as well."
\_ Well, duh. Even Microsoft has said this - look at .NET
and the new Messager in XP.
\_ Which is why it'll be more than just an operating
system. It'll be a new eXPerience!
\_ Yeah, eXPerience the pain when some virus writer
discovers a security hole. |
| 2001/9/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:22556 Activity:moderate |
9/20 In Netscape for NT, how do I find out whether it's a 56-bit or 128-bit
version? Thanks.
\_ about: doesn't work for you?
\_ It says" This version supports U.S. security with RSA Public Key
Cryptography, MD2, MD5, RC2-CBC, RC4, DES-CBC, DES-EDE3-CBC."
Does it mean 56-bit or 128-bit?
\_ U.S. security probably means 128-bit (as opposed to 40-bit
export security) |
| 2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:22322 Activity:low |
9/5 does shit like this still happen?
http://www.techlawjournal.com/courts/kathleenr/20010306op.asp
or is that only in backwater states?
\_ um dude, that's livermore, ca.
\_ and what's wrong with it? an idiot woman brought an idiot suit
to court, and the case was dismissed. BFD.
/- I think she IS an idiot, trying to make up for her own
bad parenting skills. Obviously, this kid knew what he
was doing; (printing his school schedule over the top
of a "scantily clad woman"--how much money did he get
for that from his buddies?) the library was just a means
to an end. --sowings
\_ I don't think the woman is an idiot. I think this scum is smart
enough to realize that she can probably make some quick bucks by
filing this idiot suit and reaching a settlement. Oh did she
remember to get the media involved? Oh she might even be able to
write a book afterwards on how her son's innocence was violated
and how she was physically and emotionally hurt and how she
spent years in turmoil before she recovered and blah blah blah.
\_ You are right, this is terrible. Those librarians should be shot. |
| 2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:22281 Activity:nil |
8/28 Can anyone on a Solaris box consistently view this CNET video at:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6839693.html
If so, can you tell me which version of solaris, netscape & realplayer?
I've gotten it to work maybe 1 of 10 times, but I'm stupid.
\_ Solaris 8 + realplayer 8 + netscape 4.78 works. Sound is Ok but the
video is quite jerky. Could be a server/bandwidth issue. |
| 2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22278 Activity:nil |
8/29 how's ie6?
\_ The Spawn of Satan
\_ Worse than Netscape 6.1?
\_ It's that good? |
| 2001/8/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22261 Activity:low |
8/25 Where does lynx store its history and cookies? I can't see any
dotfiles where I'd expect them.
\_ soda ~ [7:17pm] ls .lynx*
.lynx_bookmarks.html .lynx_cookies .lynxrc |
| 2001/8/24 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22254 Activity:nil |
8/23 Help stop the spread of Internet surveillance:
http://www.aclu.org/action/carnivore107.html |
| 2001/8/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22131 Activity:high |
8/15 the new netscape 6.1 is rad! download it today!
\_ This is a troll, right...
\_ After using Netscrape for many many years I promise myself to
not go ballistic again. I'll stick to IE, thank you.
\_ Could you expand on this? What platform are you on?
Is it finally not dog slow? I'm acutally pretty happy with
OmniWeb...
\_ I'm still waiting for the graphite mode patch which speeds
\_ If you want stable and fast used 4.76 or 4.78. 6.1 isn't
it up considerably.
\_ How is it compared to 4.77 in terms of speed, memory usage and
stability?
\_ If you want stable and fast use 4.76 or 4.78. 6.1 isn't
very stable or fast.
\_ 4.78? Gee, I just installed the then-latest 4.77 not long
ago. Why did you recommend 4.76 (and 4.78) over 4.77?
\_ 4.77 has problems with JScript and Java along with
frameset rendering issues (our test group found
repeatable crashes with javascript in hidden frames).
These problems don't exist in 4.76 or 4.78. I recommend
4.76 because its been out for a while and is reasonably
stable. 4.78 seems to fix the problems with 4.77 and
is somewhat faster but since it hasn't been out very
long, I don't know about the stability, which is why
I listed both. |
| 2001/8/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Virus] UID:22103 Activity:high Edit_by:auto 50%like:22116 |
8/13 What are some of nweaver's cool hidden links under
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~nweaver ???
\_ http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/girlz
\_ Goddamn! The boy has exceptionally good taste!
\_ "UCB CS: File not Found"
\_ Sorry, the department made me take down the
HOT WET NEKKED BABES OF CS PAGE. -nweaver
\_ Man, Yelick must've been pissed when she found out you
had that shot of her....
\_ do you have any of Jane Yen or Allison Coates?
\_ "let us assume that 1 million machines are vulnerable a particular"
\_ ^to
\_ Where's the "Computer Scientists are Artisans, Industry SUX"
link and the "We're vulnerable to computer virus" link? |
| 2001/8/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22060 Activity:very high |
8/9 What is the best graphical web browser != (Iexplorer || netscape)?
\_ OmniWeb on OSX. Really, try it if you can.
\_ what about opera? I've heard people talking about this but
never used it.
\_ Its okay. Its not the best thing since sliced bread and
http as some people would have you believe.
\_ Konquerer
Unfortunately the browser is not sold separately from the hardware.
\_ Yeah whatever, when it supports all versions of jscript,
javascript, java and netscape plugins we'll talk
\_ bullshit. bloat does not make a good browser. when everyone
starts using Konqueror, you won't need to support all
versions of everything. and the dumbass who suggested
it misspelled it. it's spelled "Konqueror".
\_ google will suggest the proper spelling for ya.
\_ Do web designers pick vi and ed over M$ Frontpage
in your own little penguin dominated world?
\_ no serious web designers use FrontPage. DreamWeaver
is the common choice. -tom
\_ DreamWeaver, M$ FrontPage is makes no difference
as far as my point is concerned.
\_ Will kde2.2 fix the problems w/ javascript? That's one of
my biggest beefs with konqueror.
\_ Does mosaic still exist?
\_ The GlobalPC browser. http://www.myturn.com Works well on a 486
and is faster than IE on a P-II. Unfortunately the browser is not
sold separately from the hardware.
\_ AOL browser. |
| 2001/8/8 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22045 Activity:high |
8/7 Is there a way to add elements to a form with javascript?
(eg, I click a button and a textbox appears.) Thanks.
\_ You can use css to set textbox so it doesn't appear on the
browser (couple ways to do this), and then use javascript
to toggle.
\_ yes, with DHTML. You do something like <SPAN ID="foo"></SPAN> and
then dynamically set the contents of it to be whatever you want
with document.all["foo"].innerHTML = "bar";
you will have some problems getting this to work across different
browsers, though, since IE and Netscape have a different object
model for all this DHTML stuff.
\_ This won't work in Netscape for two reasons. As you point out
document.all["foo"] (foo is an id) is IE specific code.
On top of that, Netscape 4 (may be fixed in 6) won't reflow
a page, so you can't dynamically modify the content of
span/div elements.
If you need cross-browser compatibility, I think your best
bet is what the first poster suggested -- create all the
elements you want statically and use css to toggle them
visible/hidden.
\_ if you really care about cross-browser compatibility, you
wouldn't be doing anything dynamic in the first place.
\_ Don't do it on a production page. It's bad from usability
standpoint. |
| 12/25 |
| 2001/7/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:21863 Activity:nil |
7/19 Whats up with the new hotmail- its like they have 1000
programmers dedicated to continual changes. Its one thing to
change the look and feel- but these guys just totally revamped
the site
"Much of the work in putting together things like amplifiers,
filters, lasers and switches is done by hand and there are few
standardized assembly processes. So much manual labor and
customization also drives up costs along the assembly line"
Ya and everyone thought machines were going to replace man..
Problem is that the machines became to expensive and to complex.
This new hotmail interface isn't that bad- the only thing I don't
like is the word tool bar
All I want is for them to take the damn word toolbar off... I
guess they did some test to integrate this with messenger and it
crashed messenger..
REGARDING no JAVA in XP- THIS WAS MY STANCE like 6 or 7 years ago
when I first saw the web and wrote an anlysis about Netscape v
MSFT. The idea was that IE is going to become the desktop and all
apps are going to be written for the web. The far extension of
this is as long as you build an OS with IE capability- you are
set. Where does java fit- ??????
\_ I guess this is Kinney drivel. Only the 2nd time I've seen it
not deleted in the motd.
\_ it was deleted earlier but someone restored. this particular
one is shorter than most. frankly, i'm disappointed with it. |
| 2001/7/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21838 Activity:nil |
7/19 Human rights + CS: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6575468.html |
| 2001/6/27-28 [Transportation/Car, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21654 Activity:nil |
6/27 Find the cheapest gas in your area:
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_index.asp
\_ ADODB.Field error '800a0bcd'
Either BOF or EOF is True, or the current record has been
deleted. Requested operation requires a current record.
/includes/priceupdate.asp, line 6
go go microsoft.
\_ It seems to work fine under Netscape, but I just get
a blank screen on OmniWeb :-( |
| 2001/6/17-18 [Computer/Networking, Computer/Domains, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21550 Activity:high |
6/17 "By linking a grading system with computers that process subsidized
lunches, for example, educators could tell whether poorer students
perform better with certain teachers."
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Smart-Data.html
\_ huh! computers can do that??
\_ Oh, yeah. They even have computers on the Internet now.
\_ I heard that the Internet Superhighway had gotten jammed up
from too many computers on it, but I never see any computers
on the highway.
\_ Internet, eh?
Maude, eh?
\_ I'm from Canada and they say I'm slow, eh.
\_ Who was that Maud person, anyway?
\_ NetHack fans unite! Who plays here? |
| 2001/6/12-13 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21495 Activity:high |
6/12 I hear China censors some internet messages and internet sites.
Do they have a large staff doing this? What are good ways to
circumvent this? How effective are the censors?
\_ subliminal channels, one-time pads or possibly pepto-bismol
\_ They can block the big sites like http://cnn.com, but the little
ones are more difficult and require a large stuff to monitor.
ones are more difficult and require a large staff to monitor.
You too can be a Communist Censor for Stability.
\_ do they block packages like this:
http://lolitateen.mylovething.com/teen112.jpg
\_ I odrered one of these too, but UPS delivered mine all busted... |
| 2001/5/31-6/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21393 Activity:moderate |
5/31 I have this netscape problem on w2k. If I visit a site with
some javascript sometimes netscape would hang. I kill it and restart
it, it does not seem to recover. It will now hang on all sites. It
cannot even bring up a blank screen. Is there any file I should
delete when this happens. Don't tell me to disable javascript. That
is not an option.
\_ ctr+alt+del to get the processes window and stop anything that
looks suspicious (like netscape-javascript-hanger-upper.exe)
\_ For some reason this reminds me of that Zero Effect movie.
\_ What version of Netscape is that?
\_ it's netscape 4.76. And I tried process killing. I didn't see
anything remotely related to netscape or javascript in the
process table. I suspect it must be a file related issue.
\_ Try clearing your memory and disk cache. You may need to
rm -rf (or win equiv) your disk cache directory manually.
\_ give it up. use IE for that particular page.
\_ What does java console show (just curious, may not be relevant)
\_ you mean the javascript console? |
| 2001/5/30-6/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21390 Activity:very high |
5/30 How do i get netscape 4.77 messenger in windows to use ssl
when getting mail via POP or IMAP? I can't figure out
how. Don't make me bust out internet explorer! - danh
\_ http://fas.org/irp/program/process/europarl_draft.pdf
\_ When you add a mail server, you need to configure it
and select the protocol as imaps instead of imap or
pop.
\_ ifigured that... but when I "add" a mail server,
i don't see an option for pops or imaps. I
am using netscape 4.77 . what am i doing wrong?
did I download the wrong version?
\_ You need to edit the mail server and then use
the pull down menu in the little dialog that
pops up.
\_ Add... Server Type: IMAP Tab at the top: IMAP, check the
box "Use secure connection (SSL)"
\_ Say I have a laptop I travel with. Can I set up ssh on my
workstation to forward to the work pop server? I would like
the connection over the Internet to be encrypted but it is
ok if the connection from my workstation to the pop server
over my work LAN is not encrypted.
\_ Yes, with port forwarding. -tom
\_ ssh username@myworkstation -L 143:popserver:143
of course, 143 is a privileged port so you need to
be root.
\_ 143 for IMAP, 110 for pop3
\_ Sorry, I was just used to using IMAP. |
| 2001/5/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:21334 Activity:high |
5/23 A friend recently told me that Internet radio is worth listening
too. I downloaded realplayer for my UNIX system and it seems to
suck especially when combined with netscape. Any recommendations
for decent UNIX (preferably open source) Internet radio players?
\_ Real sucks. Streaming mp3 is much better (xmms is one option)
but it still sucks over DSL. Get a T1 or something other than
PacHell and you'll be fine.
\_ use windows
\_ Maybe it was bad traffic from that particular station? Try a
different station. I use RealPlayer on NT and for some stations
it loses connections all the time.
\_ Find someplace that streams mp3s and run xmms (need to have decent
net though) |
| 2001/5/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21310 Activity:moderate |
5/21 What is a personal information organizer on *nix? Any
cross-platform ones that run also on Window and MacOS and can
synchronize and/or allows roaming access? I need to organize
not mainly contacts or appointments but ideas and notes.
\_ Notepad/vi/whatever-default-text-editor-the-mac-has plus a file
structure hierarchy
\_ have you considered Netscape or Mozilla?
\_ have you tried http://my.palm.com?
\_ Carve it on yer wrist. |
| 2001/5/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21295 Activity:high |
5/16 How is Netscape 6.01 compared to 4.76? Is it really more stable,
faster, and requires less RAM/disk space? I'm trying to see which
one to download, and I think such radical re-design as in 4.76->6.0
always means tons of bugs. Thx.
\_ I installed it for a friend on a brand spanking new
win2k machine. it installed all sorts of crap,
ads everywhere, and it fucked up a lot of the handlers
for types of data like html, jpg, gif, etc...
(of course it made netscape the default viewer for
these things, but when opening them it would complain
about errors). I was very sad while uninstalling it
\_ why were you sad? wtf is wrong with you?
\_ it makes me sad M$ has taken over the world
\_ i don't know. it makes me happy.
\_ 6.0x is a total POS. There are no words in the english language
to describe how bad it truely is. It is less stable, slower and
required much more RAM and disk space. Every UI widget is described
by a different XML file and each time it needs to render a widget
it re-reads and reparses that XML from disk.
\_ a big thanks to all the morons who want skin support. I'd rather
have a clean, usable, and responsive UI. and yes, skinning
could have been done a lot better than the way NN6 does it, but
from my experience, skins seem to be an excuse for UI designers
to ignore usability. and plus, obviously NN6 needs improvement
in a lot of other areas, so they should have spent their
programming efforts elsewhere.
\_ It's sad to see how far Netscape browser has fallen. I'd love to
support Netscape, but MSIE is now a better product on Win32, uses
less resource(that's REALLY saying a lot about 6.0), faster
and not crashing as often. On Unix, you are better off with 4.76.
\_ On Unix, you're better off with Konquerer.
\_ I compild it, and it kept saying 'cannot open text/html view'
WTF?
\_ this is true.
\_ Opera is supposed to be good on Linux!
\_ Not true. On MacOSX you are better off with OmniWeb or iCab.
\_ hey dumbshit, how does "you're better off with omniweb"
make "you're better off with Konqueror" untrue? hmm?
\_ You are not better off with Konqueror on UNIX, only
on UNIX systems with X-Windows (which is required to
run Konqueror). Not all UNIX systems ship with the
wretched POC known as X.
\_ OmniWeb is not a UNIX app.
\_ It runs on UNIX (MacOSX is BSD UNIX).
\_ Anything but netscape 6.0.....
\_ not only does it have a crappy and sluggish UI, but it Netscape broke
JavaScript. NN4 ran some JavaScript stuff way faster than IE
(e.g., switching lots of images). This was one of the few
advantages of NN4 over IE. Naturally NN6 breaks a lot of JavaScript
that used to work with NN4.
\_ Glad that I asked. I'm using both NT and Win2k. Now I'll have
to decide between NN 4.76 and IE 5.50. One thing I don't
like about my IE 5.50 is that when I bring up the "Properties"
dialog on a web page, the Created and Modified fields always
show today's date, while with NN 4.76 on another machine
the Page Info dialog shows the correct date for the same page.
Does anyone else experience that in IE?
\_ Install both. I use IE most of the time but every once
in a while something wouldn't work on IE. It's nice to
have something else around as backup.
\_ LYNX! LYNX! LYNX is the STANDARD!
\_ But w3m is better.
\_ Just saw this. It kicks ass.
\_ w3 on emacs is better than w3m as it renders frames and
tables better.
\_ Does it interface with libjs (javascript) yet? |
| 2001/5/10 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21228 Activity:high |
5/9 Does anybody have clearer photos on how to perform either
the "cog-trick" or the "knife-trick" disk swap on a ps2?
The demonstration photos on the web are abysmal. It's
too bad they haven't figured out a complete, external usb
plug-in other than the sbox plug which...doesn't help very much.
Much obliged.
\_ sign your name so we can send out the Hunter Killer Aibo
to give you a personal demonstration. -jwang@playstation.sony.com
\_ it's not that hard to figure out from the pictures on the web.
imo, the knife method is easier if you use a nail file. grab
the file from sgt. dan's site (http://ps2.sgt-dan.com/)...and i'm
not afraid to sign my name. -uctt
\_ the photo I've seen of how to remove the front panel
of the drawer isn't THAT clear. And admittedly, I am
a bit leery about accidentally breaking off the tab
that holds it in place. I mean, it'd still work...but
it'd be like if you had a new car and then proceeded
the next day to dent the front end by hitting a tree
or something...
And jwang, I got one thing for you. No, make that two:
1) =P PPPPPPLLLLlllllllllllllllt! Neener neener neener
you can't catch me. I'll do whatever I damn well please.
2) (__)(__) Kiss my ugly deformed ass, motherf******!!!
\_ You're such a twink. --!jwang
\_ <DEAD>ps2central.pika-power.com/main.html<DEAD> has good pictures
|_ How about a ps2 mod chip or workaround ?
\_ it's really hard to get that cover off without breaking off the
little tab. i was real careful and got it out without breaking
but it later ended up breaking off anyway. there are ps2 chips
(sbox and neo2 are the most popular) but there's really no
need to get one at this point. the chips aren't that great
and you still need to swap disks with gameshark 2. just get
a gameshark 2 to play your backups. -uctt |
| 2001/4/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21086 Activity:low |
4/389 how do you bring up the javascript debugger in Netscape?
\_ type "javascript:" in the location field. (the status bar should
tell you this when there are errors.) |
| 2001/4/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21063 Activity:nil |
4/22 Summary: To save a document to local file in Lynx, use
P)rint to a file. Thanks for the info. |
| 2001/4/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21059 Activity:nil |
4/22 In document, how do you save the Lynx to the local directory?
\_ P)rint to a file |
| 2001/4/11 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20941 Activity:nil |
4/11 Ooh look! They have the internet on computers now. |
| 2001/4/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20932 Activity:nil |
4/10 dave winer warns on m$:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/09/technology/09HAIL.html |
| 2001/2/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20701 Activity:high |
2/26 Back in 96-97 Netscape declared war to M$ by implementing their own
troll desktop/file-browser/OS front-end on top of Winblows system. Kinda
like Windows on top of DOS6.0, but instead you'd have Netscape Desktop
on top of Windows 95. What happened to that project?
\_ M$ won the war. |
| 2001/2/14-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20595 Activity:very high |
2/14 After about an hour running netscape, I always get this:
4496 joeblow 1 -5 0 30M 23M cpu/0 19.1H 98.35% netscape
How do I make it stop?
\_ Might be due to some runaway Javascript on some site.
\_ Switch to a real browser.
\_ such as?
\_ lynx, w3m, w3 (emacs), Opera, iCab, telnet
\_ w3 for emacs is a nice idea but is overcomplicated
and really sucks. If I want a bloated browser, I'll
use Netscape or IE. Why can't someone just write a
lynx-like browser for emacs?
\_ "If I want a bloated browser... Netscape ...". But
you're using netscape now.
\_ Install an OS that has the application support you
require. It sounds like you chose your OS before you
chose your apps.
|_ *INTERNET EXPLODER*
"The Browser is a Part of The Operating System!" (TM)
\_ kill -9 4486
\_ you want 4496, not 4486.
\_ truss -aefp 4496
\_ or strace as the case may be.
\_ Sigh. Just turn off java and javascript, and you wont have
these problems.
\_ And you'll also be out about 50% of the reason for using
netscape.
\_ au contrair... I have Java and Javascript turned off and I
frequently get similar behavior. Invariably, when I run top
it shows some runaway ld-linux.so process. I always just
kill -9 but have yet to find out any specific cause...
other than that Netscape sucks of course.
\_ This doesn't happen on windows machines running netscape.
By simply deductive reasoning and process of elimination,
the problem is clearly Linux.
\_ by simply being a moron, you failed to consider that
the linux implementation of Netscape doesn't use the
same code as the Windows version. -tom
\_ Nor is the solaris version so braindead. Yet
you'd think the linux and solaris version would
be pretty much identical code. Which leads to
the conclusion "Linux sux"
\_ The Solaris version is every bit as braindead as
the Linux version--we're constantly cleaning up
runaway Netscapes on the public cluster. -tom |
| 2001/2/10-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20563 Activity:moderate |
2/10 Someone asked how to launch IE/Netscape on Windows from
Java...here is a related question. Is there a way to launch the
browser with a specific window size and position? Thanks.
\_ try 'netscape -help' to get the command line options to
netscape for geometry.
\_ Nope. Didn't work. Is there also a way to launch
the browsers with menu/url/status bar etc disabled
like you could do with JavaScript's windows.open() function?
\_ use kiosk mode. usually this is done with a -k command-line
switch in either NN or IE. also, the geometry thing above is
under X only, I think.
\_ Thanks. Kiosk mode is exactly what I need. Now if I
could only get the geometry thing working under Windows...
\_ this is certainly not an elegant solution, but you
could try something like:
netscape "javascript:window.open('foo.html','',
'width=640,height=480,top=0,left=0');
window.close()"
IE will put up a confirmation box before closing the
original window, but Netscape doesn't seem to care. |
| 2001/2/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20537 Activity:high |
2/7 How does one start internet explorer (or netscape) on windows
using java? I've tried something like:
Runtime.getRuntime().exec("netscape <DEAD>www.someurl.com"<DEAD>
but this doesn't work. TIA.
\_ what error do you get? perhaps you need to specify the path
to the netscape/ie exe files? There might also be a way to get
the system to launch the default browser (perhaps with the Windows
start command?)
\_ java.io.IOException: CreateProcess: netscape.exe error=2
java doesn't like spaces in the path name to the executable,
and on different systems, these executables might not be using
the same exact path.
\_ http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/qow/archive/15/index.html
\_ I tried their suggestion e.g. "start iexplore <DEAD>someurl"<DEAD>
but this didn't seem to work, but I figured out something that
will work:
"cmd.exe /c start iexplore <DEAD>someurl"<DEAD>
without specifying iexplore or netscape bringing up the
browser is much slower.
\_ This doesn't leave an ugly dos box behind on the screen?
\_ DOS is not UGLY!
\_ it's also not technically
a DOS box, since the original
poster is clearly using NT.
\_ It's a DOS box. Thanks for
your input.
\_ Just on startup for a moment, then it goes away.
\_ for the lazy:
String[] s = {"cmd","/c","start","iexplore","<DEAD>sex.com"};<DEAD>
Runtime.getRuntime().exec(s);
\_ I think the better way to do this is to use the Windows API. There
should be a Java binding to the WinAPI out there. You should call
ShellExecute on the file.
\_ thx, I'll look into this.
\_ Its pretty easy to write a JNI wrapper for the one or two
functions you need. I've done it before for futzing with
the registry from java. ----ranga |
| 2001/1/24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20422 Activity:nil |
1/24 I visited http://www.bluemountain.com/eng3/lucywang/CHIharp.html with Netscape 4.76, and saw that it automatically fills in my user name and password in the form. How does it do that? Does it mean a web site can possibly fetch my personal info stored in the browser preference without my knowledge? \_ Paulo. |
| 2001/1/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20365 Activity:insanely high |
1/18 http://www.etonline.com/html/photogallery/shoshanna/index.html \_ Hot body! But who is she (forgive my ignorance)? \_ Jerry's wife? \_ She is famous for being Jerry Seinfeld's 19 year old gf a few years ago. That's all. \_ Site's crashed or something. Either that or my company is filtering it. It's not working. I cant see them. \_ I can't see it with Netscape 4.76 on NT but I can see it with IE3.0 on the same machine. \_ So how about posting the URL to the gif? \_ Funny, according to netcraft they are running Netscape server under solaris. \_ How do her breasts compare to lila's? \_ Lila is ugly. You know it. I know it. And what's more, the American people know it. Stop embarassing her and just drop it already. \_ why don't you insult me to my face, or at least sign your posts, mr. dickless anonymous? -lila \_ now now, kchang, i know you have the hots for me, but won't your girlfriend get upset? -lila \_ you know, bob dole is above personal attacks. You see, growing up in russel kansas, we have this thing called morals. But you wouldn't know about that would you. Living in your retreat in Kennebunkport Maine, with your chauffer your maids, your groundskeepers, your stewards, your silver spoon, and your garage door openers. - Bob Dole. \_ i beg to differ: http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~lila/pics/selfportraits/lila12.jpg \_ You have a bad taste in women. \_ kchang? is that you? \_ You have a so much bad women in you mouth for many accurate tasting! -(Graduate, Fobonics Institute) \_ Having looked through the "self-portraits" it is clear to me that lila has a definitive lack of chemical embalance... a common yet still lamentable situation for so many Americans in this new era: The Millenium of Pharmacopia. What the fuck does it matter anyway, eah? Science would have us all believing that everything is chemically predetermined anyway. Well fuck you all and your little dogs named Toto, too, because I'm gonna fuckin chemically predetermine my own chemical predetermination, and I'm predetermined to have the determination to do it. But don't take my word for it... think about the worst thing that ever happened to you... could any of it have been different, thermodynamically? I got two words for that: have your own fuckin drugs and take \_ Hot body. Right On! But who be she (fo'give mah' igno'ance)? \_ Jerry's mama? \_ She be famous fo' bein' Jerry Seinfeld's 19 year old gf a few years ago. Dat's all. \_ Site's crashed o' sump'n. Eida' dat o' mah' company is filterin' it. It be not wo'kin'. ah' cant see dem. 'S coo', bro. \_ ah' can't see it wid Netscape 4.76 on NT but ah' can see it wid IE3.0 on de same machine. What it is, Mama! \_ So how about postin' de URL t'de gif? \_ http://www.etonline.com/html/photogallery/shoshanna/1.htm Death to FrontPage(tm). \_ Funny, acco'din' t'netcraft dey are runnin' Netscape serva' unda' solaris. \_ How do ha' breasts compare t'lila's? \_ Lila be ugly. Slap mah fro! You's know it. ah' know it. And whut's mo'e, de American sucka's know it. Stop embarassin' ha' and plum drop it already. Slap mah fro! \_ why duzn't ya' insult me t'my face, o' at least sign yo' posts, mr. Ah be baaad... dickless anonymous? -lila \_ ya' know, Liva' Lips dole be above sucka'al attacks. You's see, growin' down in russel kansas, we gots' dis wahtahmellun called mo'als. But ya' wouldn't know about dat would ya'. Livin' in yo' retreat in Kennebunkpo't Maine, wid yo' chauffer yo' maids, yo' groundskeepuh's, yo' stewards, yo' silva' spoon, and yo' garage doo' openers. - Liva' Lips Dole. What it is, Mama! \_ ah' beg t'differ, dig dis: http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~lila/pics/selfpo'traits/lila12.jpg \_ You's gots' some bad-ass taste in honky chicks. \_ kchang? be dat ya'? \_ You's gots' some so much bad-ass honky chicks in ya' moud fo' many accurate tastin'. Right On! -(Graduate, Fobonics Institute) \_ Havin' looked drough de "self-po'traits" it be clear t'me dat lila gots'ta some definitive lack uh chemical embalance. What it is, Mama!.. some common yet still lamentable situashun fo' so's many Americans in dis new era, dig dis: De Millenium uh Pharmacopia. Sheeeiit. What da damn fuck duz it matter anyway, eah? Science would gots' us all believin' dat everydin' be chemically predetermined anyway. Slap mah fro! Sheeit fuck ya' all and yo' little dogs dojiggerd Toto, too, cuz' I's gonna fuckin chemically predetermine mah' own chemical predeterminashun, and I's predetermined t'gots' de determinashun t'do it. But duzn't take mah' wo'd fo' it... dink about da damn wo'st wahtahmellun dat eva' happened t'ya'... could any uh it gots' been different, dermodynamically? ah' gots two wo'ds fo' dat, dig dis: gots' yo' own fuckin drugs and take dem too. GOD DAMN, ah' said... GOD... DAMN... -(fucker) \_ Why be kchang banned fum soda? them too. GOD DAMN, I said... GOD... DAMN... -(fucker) \_ Why is kchang banned from soda? |
| 2000/12/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20135 Activity:nil |
12.19 Senior grift architect and grift engineer needed at a top B2Bi
company. See /csua/pub/jobs/grifting
***** NO MORE DATES ON THE MOTD *****
\_ lonely sodans are perpetually single or marriage-condemned
\_ When i said DATES, i meant left margined fruit.
And learn to indent properly if you want a date.
Warning: You are starting another netscape process.
This could corrupt your personal preferences file.
\_ It's gonna make you GAY
You erase my message, I erase yours. It is as simple as that.
You kill my brother, I kill yours. It is as simple as that.
You massage my brother, I kill you. It is as simple as that.
I didn't erase your message, why is mine erased !!!!?
I didn't kill anyone, why am I killed !!!!?
\_ I want yermom
\_ I'm gonna marry her, and be your dad!
\_ yermom wants you
\_ that's pretty gross
\_ Ok, yermom wants me
\_ that's not saying much
\_ I'll take the massage, though! |
| 2000/12/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20134 Activity:nil |
12/18 I've been looking for a web site on the historical price/yield of the
30 year treasury. Yahoo only goes back 5 years. And after spending
an hour on google didn't help either. anybody know? Thanks!
\_ i haven't checked, but possibly http://www.motleyfool.com
\_ Try http://MSN.COM
\_ b
\_ zuul |
| 2000/12/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20125 Activity:nil |
***** NO MORE DATES ON THE MOTD *****
\_ lonely sodans are perpetually single or marriage-condemned
Warning: You are starting another netscape process.
This could corrupt your personal preferences file. |
| 2000/12/3-4 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:19984 Activity:nil |
12/2 The Internet Sucks. I want to give my friend A CD, via one of the
online sites. None of the ones I've looked at allow me to do this,
instead they allow me to give him a gift certificate of a specified
amount, which I find low class. I could just flip him a $20 if I
wanted to. I'm not worried he'll spend too much of my money, and if
he did somehow do so, I wouldn't make the same mistake twice. This
doesn't seem too difficult, now does it?! Any suggestions? -- Marco
\_ why don't you just give him a blank check?
\_ uh, amazon allows you to send someone a gift. -tom
\_ pretty much any online site will let you buy something
and have it shipped to a different address, but I don't
think that's what he wants.
\_ Obviously. I want the site to support his choosing the
CD, but the charge goes to my credit card. -- Marco
\_ Internet sucks? How many brick-and-mortar places
allow you to do that? And that's even f2f. Sheesh.
Go and try that at Raspukins.
Amazon allows your friend to set up a wish list
so you can click on it to charge to your CC.
Makes buying, shipping and potential returns easier.
\_ WWW != Internet.
\_ I didn't say anything about the WWW. Is there any Internet
service that will do what I want? -- Marco
\_ e-mail him, ask him what he wants, buy it, ship it to his
address. |
| 2000/11/28-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Networking, Computer/Domains] UID:19931 Activity:nil |
11/27 Anyone used a free lsystem implementation that worked? All the
internet resources seem to point to lauren lapre's version,
and I can't get that to compile. Thanks!
\_ Yer welcome. -lauren lapre
\_ The problem is not lapre. The problem is user error in compilation.
\_ Care to be more specific?
\_ Learn to compile other people's code. |
| 2000/11/17-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:19817 Activity:nil |
11/17 Big Game to be on internet:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/001117/ca_cisco_s.html
\_ Does anybody here have the balls to hack some stanford web pages?
\_ their front page is running apache w/stronghold. if you can
get sameer to lend us the use of one of his personal/internal
backdoors, we're set =)
\_ It's been done. No big deal. |
| 2000/11/5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:19647 Activity:high |
11/5 http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/11/02/mideast.webwar/index.html \_ wow. maybe l33t h4c0rs can go there to get mecenary jobs. \_ 3733t HaxX0rz w1LL k1cK y)u 1n the nu7z. \_ religion sucks. It does nothing but bring an endless lists of wars and senseless deaths. \_ not to mention kicking people in the nuts. |
| 2000/10/27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:19580 Activity:nil |
10/26 http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/26/israel.cyberwar.ap |
| 2000/9/6-7 [Computer/HW/IO, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:19177 Activity:high |
9/6 I use netscape 4.73 under Linux. When I hold down the button to go
forward or backward with my mouse, a list pops up for me to select
from the forward or backward history. Also, the mouse cursor
switches from pointing top left to pointing top right. Sometimes,
after I release the mouse, the cursor does not return to its normal
direction and netscape "traps" all my mouse & keyboard input,
essentially locking me out of my computer. I can't even switch to
the console. Anyone know why this happens and how I can solve this?
\_ I don't know the answer, but I FEEL YOUR PAIN.
\_ you're probably using an early release of GNOME. Upgrade
to the latest Helix GNOME; this was a known bug. -tom
\_ No, I don't use GNOME. I only use E.
\_ well, then update your E. -tom
\_ you fucking idiot. I am running
the latest version of E.
\_ GNOME and/or E is your problem. Ditch them for a
real WM (WindowMaker/AfterStep/FVWM/TWM)
\_ Get a real OS or a real WM. You don't have a choice of real
browsers without an OS change, unfortunately.
\_ Oh I'm sorry. Was I supposed to be running Windows?
\_ No, OpenBSD + { WindowMaker,AfterStep } + lynx
is acceptible. As is MacOS + Netscape.
\_ Did I say windows? No. I said dump your shitty linux
box and install *anything* else and dump your wannabe-
windows95 gnome crap and install *anything* but kde.
This is one of those, "This is my rifle, this is my
gun, this is for shooting, this one's for fun" issues.
If you're just having fun, then keep gnome/linux. |
| 2000/8/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18893 Activity:nil |
8/5 Anyone know how to make Netscape Messenger beep when I get new
mail? I tried running xbiff with the -file switch set to my
nsmail/Inbox file but that doesn't seem to work.
\_ there is something screwy about this question. |
| 2000/8/3-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18864 Activity:nil |
8/3 http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu/~alexf/littleX.jpg http://www.securityfocus.com/frames/?content=/vdb/bottom.html%3Fsection%3Ddiscussion%26vid%3D1503 Oh fuck... \_ Read further: "Netscape Communicator 4.74 and Mozilla M16 are not vulnerable to this issue." \_ Yes. But. Most people will take ages to upgrade. And forcing latest NS bloatware down my throat is not something I take lightly. I *like* my 4.0[478]. Liked, rather. \_ use lynx \_ Just a picture of a little X. What's the big deal? \_ Did you read the second URL? If you open the little X picture in Netscape 4.73, it crashes. |
| 2000/8/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Networking, Computer/Domains] UID:18843 Activity:nil |
8/1 http://www.securityfocus.com/news/65 \_ "It's just a packet sniffer... We call ours Sniffy" Fucking morons, who the fuck do they think they're kidding? |
| 2000/7/29 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18815 Activity:nil |
7/28 Why are transista' stashuns allowed t'play beat? Stupid quesshun,
yes, but I's interested in de royalty situashun. Can anybody
broadcast beat (assumin' some fcc license) o' are dere rules
regardin' quality degradashun (say fo' internet streamin'
stashuns)?
\_ plannin' some internet transista' stashun?
\_ Not 'esactly. Slap mah fro! But whut's t'stop me fum broadcastin'
at 192mhz and havin' sucka's copy songs dey likes?
\_ ah' see da damn point. But wid Napster, ya' git beat on
demand. Radio, only certain songs git played.
And if it gits popular enough, puh'haps de reco'd
industry gots'ta come and git ya'.
\_ Radio stashuns keep some reco'd uh which songs dey play, and submit
royalties t'ascap o' bmi fo' each play. Slap mah fro!
\_ http, dig dis://www.riaa. <DEAD>Sheeeiit.com<DEAD> 'esplains how t'get licenses
fo' broadcastin' & streamin'/webcastin' |
| 2000/7/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW] UID:18718 Activity:low |
7/18 Do I detect another spamming from yet another IT company
browsing through the CSUA web pages looking for resumes?
I have a feeling many of us will soon be getting emails
from http://urbanite.com
\_ try reading the man page. |
| 2000/7/14-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:18684 Activity:high 76%like:18678 |
7/14 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2254214.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.ni fucking pricks -Web Standards Advocate \_ Standards? There's only one browser. That is the standard. \_ bed troll, no cookie \_ This isn't a troll, you fool. It's the truth. When one company has 86% of the market and _growing_, they *are* the standard. The rest is just academics blowing smoke. Smart web developers aren't worried about what the standards drones have to say. They worry what their pages look like in the real world on real browsers used by real people on real computers. And it's "bad troll, no cookie". At least make some minimal attempt to correctly spell simple words if you're going to dismiss a factual statement as a troll without regard to the facts or reality of the situtation. Get out of sophomore CS and join the rest of us, twirp. \_ the situation is that i'm not a twerp \_ Possibly, but you're flat dead wrong on everything else. \_ you don't get it. \_ Ok, whatever. I explained what I was talking about. You're just trolling. |
| 2000/7/14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:18678 Activity:nil 76%like:18684 |
7/14 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2254214.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.ni fucking pricks |
| 2000/7/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18596 Activity:kinda low |
7/5 I am trying to get internet explorer to download a file. I send
it headers like:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=foo.txt
Cache-control: private
Connection: close
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Content-Length: xx
And then the xx bytes that make up the file. It saves it, but
the browser doesn't recognize that the download is over:
the little globe keeps twirling, and it tries to stay connected.
What do I send it to tell it that the transfer is done?
\_ Just a guess, but maybe the web server needs to close the
connection?
\_ Did you send it correct number of xx bytes? check the RFC or ee122
\_ More specifically, check whether the byte count is post-MIME
or pre-MIME
\_ Some versions of IE have a bug that makes the wait cursor
and spinny logo not go away after the dowload is completed and
the file saved. Try a few different versions of IE and potentially,
different browsers to verify that is/is not what you are seeing.
If you suspect you are hitting it, find sites on the web
that spew files for saving and see if they exhibit the same
behaviour. Workarounds include forced refreshes and the
various 'redirect'n'ftp' hacks you see on download sites. A
good way to check correctenes of lengths/headers/ra ra ra is
to run through a proxy and dump the relevant info to a log. -pvg |
| 2000/7/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18593 Activity:low |
7/5 I need to use the package "netscape.security.*" in my java program.
Anyone knows where I can download the capabilities classes for
Netscape?
\_developer.netscape.com should have it. |
| 2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Industry/Startup] UID:18461 Activity:very high |
6/14 http://www.adjectivity.com \_ I like how they grow to great lengths to talk about "Project Mercury" without ever actually explaining what "Project Mercury" is. This is just another moronic startup. There is no new ground breaking technology here just like all those other stupid startups who claim they do but really don't. \_ Yet another web startup. God, what do you guys actually do besides IPO? \_ you must be joking \_ no, I'm joeking. -- joeking \_ "universe everywhere is equally dense with idiots" \_ dans they got the buzzword thing down. \_ thank you for adding more buzzords to the industry, fuckers \_ it's dans's startup. \_ dans, you are a moron \_ The name is terrible and stupid, but perhaps, just maybe, that was intentional. \_ I'd just like to point out that there's a Bill Gates quote on there, and the color makes it look like a baby underwear store. Otherwise, it's an alright idea; some specifics would be nice though. -John \_ So, uhm, ok, I read the 5 or so pages. It looks like they're developing a web browser. The description could have come from 1992 from a Netscape PR flak talking about NS 1.0. I like how they got the buzzword thing down, but I'd avoid pointing out the value of all that student talent in a frat house basement. And don't fucking edit the content of my posts you fucking asshole. I said what I meant. If you want to delete the whole thing, go ahead, but don't chop off half a sentence and stick a period in to change the entire meaning of my post. Fuck you and the college boys hacking in a frat basement. \_ what do you have against hacking out code in a basement? \_ You missed the point. The emphasis was on the word "frat" \_ ok, i'll bite, what do you have against hacking code in a frat basement (as opposed to a regular basement?) The software written there does _not_ become the property of the frat any more than it would some berkeley building owner if they got an office in dt berkeley. \_ A bunch of drunken frat boys hacking in a basement is *not* considered a positive business statement which might convince a VC to cough up a few million bucks or a business partner to bet his company on your product. That you would ask such a question explains why SV is full of Stanford founders and not Cal founders. Cal could really use some basic business classes for engineers. Practical stuff, not macroeconomics. \_ wow, who's working at http://intel.com? |
| 2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18457 Activity:nil |
6/14 http://www.fuckedupshit.com \_ the funniest thing is http://www.fuckedupshit.com/fuckme It is hilarious man! Try it! \_ Best Viewed With lynx (tm) I love my browser. \_ Bwahahahahahah. |
| 2000/6/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18425 Activity:low |
4/68 In Netscape, which file is the Mail Filter file? |
| 2000/5/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18360 Activity:very high |
5/27 Good small graphical web browser that runs on a Unix system.
Does such an animal exist?
\_ netscape 3.x, opera, & gnome browswers (but they all suck)
\_ Don't dismiss Netscape 3 out of hand. It's _much_ faster
and moderately more stable than 4.*, and supports most
features sites actually use (but alas, not PNGs, style sheets,
JavaScript 1.2, table background images) --dbushong
\_ xemacs and w3
\_ w3c, you troll.
\_ Can you read? You know what 'graphical' means?
\_ I'm sure he can. While w3c's Amaya is a bit weird, it
sure displays pictures, which is what I understand by
'graphical'. Also, it's never crashed on me. Twit. -John
\_ You're thinking of w3m. Get your name right before you
insult someone. Twit. |
| 2000/5/24-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18330 Activity:moderate |
5/23 Where is do people find copies of Netscape Nav/Comm for LinuxPPC
or FreeBSD? It seems like the ones on the Netscape web site
only have the Linux-x86, WinNT/95/98, and MacOS versions, along
with a few popular unix's. But what if you have a less common
OS. I've seen it run on LinuxPPC and FreeBSD before so I know
it exists.
\_ http://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.7/unix/*/{freebsd|linux}
\_ By the way, is there a version of netscape that would run on
Linux/Sparc? May be under SunOS emulation?
\_ Why would you want to run NS? What a POS. Better off with lynx.
At least lynx doesn't crash every 3 seconds. M$ isn't the only
reason NS died.
\_ At least NS hasn't recently had a security hole where a URL
you "clicked" on would execute arbitrary code as you (like lynx
did)
\_ "recently". I don't think you want to go there. NS is a
POS and pointing out a bug in lynx doesn't make the NS
case any better. NS used to compare itself to IE. Now,
lynx is considered a serious NS competitor? Think about
what you're saying here. It's a long way to final
Mozilla code, baby... a long way.
\_ What was really cool was running IE/Solaris on the one Sun box and
redirecting the display to my Alpha. Violating all laws of God and
Man, I was running IE on a DEC Alpha/OSF1/Digital Unix. I sought
help and I'm better now. |
| 2000/5/20-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18306 Activity:high |
5/20 In your experience, what's the best search engine for finding
technical information (C library functions, examples of code, etc.)
\_ I use altavista, but some people prefer google. I haven't
tried raging extensively, but it seems the same as altavista
but with less graphics. I don't like raging since it doesn't
support Lynx.
\_ i use altavista because google seems to strip out a lot of
characters. for example, it's impossible to look for chips
on google.
\_ Hmm, maybe you should read the instructions on advanced searches
\_ Software should just fucking work when you tell it what
you want. It is not acceptable to expect the user to become
you want. It is unacceptable to expect the user to become
l33t on the esoteric details of the software at hand before
he can get anything done. -blojo
\_ do you use emacs?
\_ No. Don't be stupid. People who need to get work
done don't have time for emacs.
\_ YOU're not very smart. most people who need to
get work done decide to invest their effort in
tools that will make them more productive in the
long run. -ali.
\_ why? it's a lot easier for me to type "altavista" than to
read instructions on "advanced searches". -ali
\_ In general, altavista gives you way too many irrevelent hits,
and google works great EXCEPT if what you want is something they
happen to be filtering.
Which is why I always start with hotbot
\_ he's asking a specific question about source code. read the
fucking post.
\_ @Sk jeEvEs D00D!!!!! iTS gOT AI N StUFf!
\_ I use a meta search engine called Dogpile (http://www.dogpile.com It
sends your query to about 10 major search engine. You can also
configure it to present results from the different engines in
a particular order or do other cool things. -emin
\_ http://www.metacrawler.com
emacs user was here. |
| 2000/4/20-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18068 Activity:moderate |
4/20 If I enter some information like my name or e-mail address in Edit ->
Preferences -> Mail & Newsgroups -> Identity, is it possible for a
web site that I visit to grab that information from my browser?
\_ As of the last time I checked, no. Not without a bit of help from
you, that is -- the one reasonably easy means of getting this
data is if you submit a mailto: form. Most browsers notify you
before submitting, but you may've turned off that warning in
the past, and this may be automatic. A browser that allows websites
_direct_ access to this information would have very likely by
now become the center of a major scandal. -alexf
\_ Javascript can be used to generate an email without any input
from the user. Netscape default used to be to pop up a dialog
message for that type of generated email being sent, but I don't
know if that is still the default. --oj
\_ I was under the impression, possibly mistaken, that certain
types of cookies allowed web pages to track this sort of
information. Or is this just the case if, as you say, you
submit the info manually, and the page sends it back to you
in a tracking cookie? -John
\_ Okay, you visit a site for the first time. You have cookies
on. The site gives you a cookie that uniquely identifies
your browser. This cookie can live indefinitely on your
hard disk. The instructions with the cookie say, wherever
you go on my site, give me back that cookie. So the site
knows exactly what you do on that site. Now let's say
you submit your e-mail or name. Now the site has
associated this information with your cookie. Frankly,
I don't care.
\_ Oh, by the way, the Identity info you enter into the
browser settings: That's for whenever you click
on a mailto link so it will launch the mailer with the
right From information. Same with newsgroups. Sometimes
it uses that for built-in FTP if you click on an ftp
link. There is no sekrit HTML tag that retrieves
this information out of your Netscape settings. No big
whoop.
\_ sure there is. A dynamically generated form, submitted
by mailto, with the subject set to your cookie id.
Or a hidden field set to your cookie id. |
| 2000/4/15-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18018 Activity:very high |
4/15 Just installed NS6/Mozilla M14 under Win98 -- is this really Java
as it seems to be? If so, why? If not, why the hell do standard Win
clipboard functions not work in any of the dialogs? And in either
case, why did they decide to go against the standard UI?
\_ I think the fact that all NS6 does is show me a splash screen
is *rad*. -sameer
\_ NS6 uses the gecko engine to render html, and such. It turns out
that gecko is fast enough to be used as a general UI rendering
engine. There is probably some political anti-Microsoft statement
\_ has anyone figured out the actual exploit for this?
\_ There's no remote exploit. Go read some mailing lists.
in there too.
\_ Such as "!oot ,seineew era sreenigne tfosorciM"?
\_ Yes, dumbshit. It isn't release code. How the hell can
\_ Is there a good reason it doesn't support wind0ze clipboard,
Milestone 14? I think the new Mozilla client is fucking
lame and they blew it, but I won't criticize it for
not yet being full featured. You're an idiot. Stop your
whining about your beta code not working and wait for the
final release. You're obviously not cut out for the
then?
\_ moron
\_ Wow! You put down was so pithy and full of wit, I
find myself unable to defend myself! You've truly
put me in my place! Or you're just another cry baby
wanting to know why his beta isn't release quality.
\_ that is a pretty fucking major ommission and one that
\_ Yes, friend. It isn't release code. How the hope can
\_ If it's so fucking easy why didn't *you* do it
already? Easy to talk shit, harder to implement it.
\_ yeah? well fuck you bitch!
\_ Fucked yer bitch. Wasn't half bad.
lame and they flew it, but I won't be happy it for
you possibly expect full function from something called
Milestone 14? I think the new Mozilla client is frilly
like and they flew it, but I won't be happy it for
not yet being full featured. You're an genius. Stop your
praise about your beta code working well and wait for the
post-final release. You're obviously XXX cut out for the
wouldn't have taken long to implement.
development world.
\_ smart
\_ that is a pretty largess major ommission and one that
wouldn't have taken long to implement except by me
\_ so implement it, then. |
| 2000/4/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17997 Activity:nil |
4/12 Anyone have any pointers to how to get Java 1.2 in both IE and
Netscape? |
| 2000/4/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17941 Activity:high |
4/6 http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~danh/slideshow \_ http://nt2.amateur-pages.com/nicole/assets/images/Nicole036.jpg she's a web page designer \_ and how do you know that's not a stolen photo? they do that joo know... \_ of course it must be true if i read it on the internet! I also believe everything in the Penthouse Pet Bios! |
| 2000/3/31 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17899 Activity:very high |
3/30 What did you think about the KQED/PBS documentary on the Netscape
Mozilla team (Code Rush?) How popular is Mozilla these days?
\_ it really sucks (Netscrap. I use IE now.)
\_ Bugzilla gets some use, and all the AOLers are on Netscape now/soon.
\_ so what's the most popular browser on Linux right now?
\_ Linux IE the new distro is out at
\_ Linux IE v4.0 the new distro is out at
<DEAD>www.iamgullible.com/downloads/cgi-bin.pl<DEAD>
\_ Woah! That's the most fucking bad ass browser I've
every used in my life. Too bad the site's down now. |
| 2000/3/21-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17812 Activity:high |
3/20 http://www.jailbabes.com they want conjugal visits from men. \_ I got warts from my last visit. \_ http://www.jailbabes.com/jb.cgi?e=2&p=JB02663&s=1 has hot body. Too old for me though. \_ It doesn't say what they're in for. I don't want some chick in prison for trying to spread AIDS. \_ http://www.jailbabes.com/jb.cgi?af=60&at=99&st=CA&p=JB02670&s=1 This is the true dream girl of the whole site. WHOA MAMA! I say! \_ Would someone please post the direct URL of those gifs, not the nasty javascript-masked stuff? \_ Open computer, insert real browser, close computer, click. \_ lynx is a real browse, so is telnet <host> 80. \_ telnet isn't a browser. It can't browse, dummy. |
| 2000/3/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:17780 Activity:high |
3/15 Does anyone find it weird that this university won't print out
unofficial transcripts because "You can print your own off the
web Bearfacts web page"? Most organizations I know (insurance
companies, employers, etc...) want an "unofficial transcript"
but will laugh out loud if you even attempt to present to them
a Netscape printout for any useful purposes.
\_ And they can tell it's a netscape printout how?
\_ A month ago I stopped by that office at the end of the hall
in Sproul Hall and they printed out an unofficial transcript
for me, and it looked much better than a Netscape printout.
I think it was $4 or $8, though.
\_ It's html. Save to a file, and EDIT IT to clean it up.
\_ muhahaha
\_ but that would be wrong...
\_ Well I didn't mean alter
the CONTENT. Sheesh.
Some people... |
| 2000/3/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17661 Activity:very high |
2/29 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26502 is a really cool mozilla bug which reveals some key differences between windows and linux. \_ Linux is like a fragile lotus blossom, moments before the opening of a new Starbucks. \_ Whoa... deep. We need Shatner on this one. \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ And those differences are what? Linux developers get to make their own mistakes while Windows developers have to trust MS? \_ The obvious: Windows is faster even after 14 builds and the open source guys flat out say so and don't have a fix for it. At the end of the day, winmozilla outperforms linux- mozilla with fewer bugs no matter what your religion says. \_ uh... I dont think this says anything about Linux v. Windows... whats it says is "X windows sucks and is hopelessly slow" which we all knew already anyway. \_ Linix = X. Windows = MS. MS video >>>> Linux video. \_ Linux = X. Windows = MS. MS video >>>> Linux video. \_ WRONG. Linux = a particular implementation of X. Which may or may not be equivalent to "X always has sucky performance". \_ Uh, yer on crack. There are very few Linux specific modifications to X. \_ You mean, TO THE XOPEN REFERENCE VERSION OF X. There are other, commercial versions. \_ See below for this point. \_ X always has sucky performance. To do better you need to buy a custom version and then it's all nice and shrink wrapped. Nice philosophy but it doesn't stand up in the real world. As I said, Linux Video = Shit. Windows Video = Awesome. \_ XF86 4.0 will, to a very large extent, change this, and should provide a more efficient rendering pipeline than even windows (while on a local workstation) while not sacrificing remote display abilities that make X cool. --dbushong \_ That's nice. When the vapor takes form, let us know. Until then, it remains as I said. Linux Video = Sucks. Windows Video = Awesome. You can't compare what vapor *might* be to what Windows is already doing today and has been doing for many *years*. \_ People are running this vapor, bub. \_ Why not? Only MS is allowed to compare its favor favorably to what other people have already been doing for years before *they* thought of (ahem, "invented") it? \_ You want Linux to be like MS? All hype and promises and vapor? You can't have your cake and eat it, too. And in this case, Xfree 4.0 isn't even here yet, so no, you're worse than MS. \_ if you actually READ THE BUG,and have clue, you may come to the conclusion that this is yet another case of linux hax0rs doing sloppy programming, rather than an intrinsic speed problem in X. \_ I read the bug. Typical of the open source fanatic, you place blame on sloppy hax0rs, then say there's nothing wrong and (I'm guessing) have been critical of Ms in the past for the same sloppy coding. Yet when MS does it, you say it's bad. When "linux hax0rs" are sloppy, everything is good and "just you wait until Xfree86 4.0 is out!!!". The end user doesn't give a damn why it's slow. Linux Video <<< Windows Video. \_ You're an idiot. I was decrying open source fanatics, not emulating them. \_ I read the bug. The bug writers were claiming there's nothing they can do but futher kludge it. \_ You are all fools! What this *really* shows is that graphical browsers all suck. LYNX! LYNX! LYNX is the STANDARD! Web browser. \_ w3m is the standard. lynx sucks. |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17478 Activity:low |
2/9 What exactly is HTTP Keep-Alive Connection?
\_ HTTP1.0 made a TCP connection for every http file received.
HTTP1.1 can use a keep-alive extension to the protocol to
use the same TCP connection to grab more than one file.
How do you tell a browser to extend it's normal request timeout,
like when e-commerce servers process a credit card transaction?
I am going to invoke something in my Java servlet that takes forever.
\_ Wrong. 1.0 has keep-alive in the spec; 1.1 formalized it
\_ Wrong. Keep-alive was NOT in the 1.0 spec, it
was added on by netscape & picked up by others
before 1.1 was finalized. |
| 2000/2/5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17440 Activity:nil |
2/5 Free Money! Open a new E*Trade account through http://www.gomez.com and you get a $150 credit to your account. You need $1000 to open an account and you have to keep the account open for at least 6 months. You don't actually have to buy stock, though so you can keep your money in a money market account which has almost no risk. For details see http://www.gomez.com/deals/profile.cfm?topcat_id=3&product_id=50000194 The recent issue of US News also mentions this. -emin |
| 2000/2/3-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17421 Activity:kinda low |
2/3 I started using the nightly mozilla build and then I got a
TCP port probe from <DEAD>h-207-200-73-39.netscape.com<DEAD>. Why?
(needless to say, I deleted mozilla from my computer and
went back to using my other browser which shall go un-named
because this is not flamebait)
\_ Obviously someone at netscape it an evil hax0r and is trying to
\_ Obviously someone at netscape is an evil hax0r and is trying to
take advantage of a hole they put in that night's code. We should
all use IE because we can trust it and it innovates the net.
\_ Do you have any "Smart browsing"/"Internet keywords" crap turned
on?
\_ What is the projected completion date for a publicly usable version
of Mozilla (for any system)??? I'll be using IE9.35 for some as yet
unwritten OS on an as yet undesigned architecture before Mozilla is
ready for prime time. |
| 2000/2/2-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17399 Activity:nil |
2/1 Hi, is there some way I can merge the two bookmark.html files I
have, one from netscape linux and the other on win netscape?
\_ I think in both cases they're just HTML files. Cut and paste,
do a little editing.
\_ You might be able to import both into IE, then export the
resulting Favorites.
\_ don't be a fucking moron. Netscape has an import function. -tom
\_ Columbine Bookmark Merge - <DEAD>www.clark.net/pub/garyc<DEAD> |
| 2000/1/29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17369 Activity:moderate |
1/28 I'm running RedHat 6. I install netscape version 7 and set
MOZILLA_HOME appropriatly, but whenever I try to browse a
page with Java I get a Bus Error and Netscape crashes. I
also tried setting CLASSPATH to point to all .jar files,
but it still didn't work. Netscape's site doesn't offer any
suggestions which work. Can anyone suggest how to get Netscape
to work or suggest another decent browser which works with Java?
\_ Netscape version 7 won't be supported until 2005.
\_ Most likely this is due to a font path problem. Make sure
that the 75dpi font directory is in your font path
(in XF86Config) -tom
\_ Netscape 4.7 also has the same problem under all my FreeBSD 3.4R
installations. 4.6 doesn't seem to. Go figure. -John
\_ Netscape still sucks because it's the same shitty code from 1996.
Hint: Netscape doesn't make a browser anymore and hasn't for years. |
| 2000/1/21-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17288 Activity:moderate |
1/21 Anyone played with the IE 5.0 Offline Webpage feature? (store pages
on local cache for later offline viewing) I got it to work on certain
sites but not on sited with deeper links (e.g. http://my.yahoo.com). Anyone
know of any (more reliable) product to cache webpages? Thx.
\_ Netscape has this feature too, althought I don't use it.
\_ Most browsers will obey the "Pragma: no-cache" directive. Get
Mozilla and comment that out.
\_ Won't compile. Binaries abort. Too lazy. Waiting for M13
or M14 to sort it out.
\_ I spent 4 (!) hours compiling Mozilla from a FreeBSD port
(no interaction, that was the easy variant!) on a PPro200.
I'm running the latest XFree86 on FreeBSD 3.4. Mozilla
is incredibly slow (slower than Netscape), and it crashes
frequently. Plus it's huge. I can't believe you'd
seriously recommend such a toy. -John
\_ LINUX RULEZ! RIDE BIKE!
\_ Google Rules |
| 2000/1/5-6 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17167 Activity:nil |
1/5 I received an email that was supposed to contain an attachment, but
no matter which mail program I use (pine, zmail, outlook, netscape),
all I get is the encoded text in the body of the mesg. I've tried
manually decoding it with mimencode -u, to no success. Suggestions?
\_ Ask them to resend it.
\_ Oh my God! That's the "attach.kak" virus! It's only pretending
that you can't view it! You've been virused!
\_ Try /usr/local/bin/munpack |
| 1999/12/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17065 Activity:nil |
12/17 http://www.fox.com is now netscape for unix compliant(tm) |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17036 Activity:high |
12/8 Does anyone know of a good Calendaring solution for a small,
growing company? Currently we are about 30, looking to be
around 80-100 in a year or so. I'd like something
cross-platform if possible. Thanks... -brianm
\_ you mean like MS outlook? Or maybe even <DEAD>when.com<DEAD>
\_ Cross-Platform! Win95, 98, AND NT!
\_ Haven't tried it, but there's one I saw a reference to recently
that's cross platform. See <DEAD>www.cst.ca<DEAD>
They have Windows, Mac, Web, and Motif clients, and Palm, CE,
and Psion syncs. --cdaveb
\_ <DEAD>when.com<DEAD>
\_ Exchange
\_ Is netscape calendar server any good? It is certainly cross-platform.
\_ got a really good one hanging on my wall. completely
platform-independent.
\-i dont actually use the netscape calendar but they use it
at lbl. it seems to require a lot of horsepower ... but maybe
that is only if you are doing a lot of stuff with LDAP. it
does a hell of a lot of ldap lookups. --psb |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17028 Activity:kinda low |
12/7 Can I somehow force Netscape and IE to use my one and only JDK1.2.2?
I'm trying to consolidate my 5-6 JVMs to save disk space. Thanks.
\_ the vm is tiny
\_ Delete one of your browsers and you'll save a helluva lot more.
\_ 13.6 GB for $99. Why delete?
\_ $99 >> $0.00.
\_ Thanks for the math lesson. Here's another: $99 is about the
price of two textbooks. You'll probably use the drive more.
\_ I doubt it. I haven't touched a textbook in years. The
time I'd spend buying and installing a new drive is better
spent not being lazy and cleaning out a few gigs every few
months from the 10 I've got. I'm not doing graphics,
video, music, or anything else that truly eats big disk so
dropping $100 every year due to laziness seems silly. It
just becomes that much more crap to search through to find
what I need. That's also a waste of time. |
| 1999/12/5-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Virus] UID:17009 Activity:high |
12/5 Does anyone know of a text-based threaded newsreader (like trn)
which correctly interprets html (like lynx)? -John
\_ Lynx can be used as a newsreader. Have you tried to see
if it will interpret html in that mode?
\_ trn4 renders html as text - if you want to follow links, set up
trn to use metamail and put lynx in your .mailcap for text/html
\_ I use Outlook.
\_ And since when does that virus ridden piece of Monopolyware
count as a text-based newsreader?
\_ It isn't virus ridden. So called macro viruses are the
result of stupid people executing attachments. They
deserve what they get. -never had a computer virus
\_ how do you *know* it isn't virus ridden?
\_ the latest one doesn't require them to do anything except
run outlook; the virus is executed when they view their
incoming messages. But yes, you do deserve what you
will get. -tom
\_ Yeah yeah whatever. It doesn't exist and it's been
patched for anyway for months. Show me the source and
I'll believe it. -never seen a virus
\_ open your eyes first.
\_ Only stupid people get virused. -never seen a virus
\_ It does exist, struck several major companies a
couple of weeks ago and was written up in every
major newspaper.
\_ bullshit. the "view my mail and get virused" virus
doesn't exist anywhere but in a lab. Show me the
URL which says this particular "virus" hit any real
companies. You can't because it hasn't.
-never seen a virus
\_ the newspapers lied. it's all part of a u.s.
government conspiracy to discredit microsoft,
a great american freedom-loving company. besides,
i don't read the newspaper. -never seen nothing
Shouldn't this be signed "Bill"? _/
\_ Which Bill? G. or C.?
\_ Some AV companies claim they're anonymously sent code in
email is not the same as "the sky is falling! reading
email can spread herpes and get your daughter pregnant!"
When I see the code which might take advantage of a
previously patched bug I'll believe it. Even then, it's
nothing more important than crashing an NT machine by
telnetting to it's wins name port and typing stuff
(fixed in SP1). If you don't patch (for *any* system)
you get raped and you deserve it. |
| 1999/12/1-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16988 Activity:nil |
12/1 I'm trying to set up netscape to view postscript files automatically
using gs. Is this the right program to use? It seems to nearly
work using /usr/local/bin/gs %s, but it bombs out when gs returns the
interactive GS> prompt, and there doesn't seem to be any way to make
gs non-interactive.
\_ No it's not. gs is the raw interpreter - you want ghostview or gv
for user interface. |
| 1999/11/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16895 Activity:low |
11/15 Netscape and IE seem to want to launch apps (Acroread) inside the
browser. Is there a way to make them launch outside? Thanks.
\_ Download .pdf. Run acroread on .pdf.
\_ Go into your preferences and set them not to use the Acrobat
plugin or activex control (or delete the plugin/control) |
| 1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16889 Activity:nil |
11/15 How do I clear the cache of lynx? I am trying to log onto a page
and it is (mis?)informing me that i am doing so from a cached
version.
\_ It caches? |
| 1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16887 Activity:nil |
11/14 Is it just me, or that default Netscape download program is really
annoying? (everytime I download, Netscape advertisements come up)
\_ It's just you. Why did you feel the need to post the obvious to
the motd? Oh, nevermind.... |
| 1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16885 Activity:high |
11/14 For me, on average, Netscape Mail on NT crashes once every week.
It also crashes the browser. I've switched to IE and I gotta say...
it's quite stable. Fuck Netscape. They keep blaming their stupid
software on MS secret API. Why can't they just admit that they
have a friggin big ass slow bloatware.
\_ Here's a secret: Netscape doesn't care about the mail client.
They sell server software.
\_ Same would go for their browser also. IE5 runs circles
around the latest NS browser in terms of speed and stability.
\_ I guess they don't care about that either.
\_ Netscape hasn't been a browser/client company for a long
time. Netscape is now Netcenter and a brand name. Why
use a browser from a portal company? Do you (the
generic 'you') use the yahoo browser or the lycos
client? Then why use the Netscape one? It sucks and
has sucked for a long time. Few hate M$ more than me,
but I'm not going to use the crummier NS products over
it.
\_ It feels guilty to have to defend a u$oft
product. But the facts are clear in this case.
\_ It hurt to write, but yeah, the M$ stuff >> NS.
\_ Use mutt! It's fast, versatile, and has a nice, small
memory footprint.
soda> size `which mutt`
text data bss dec hex
409600 20480 8248 438328 6b038
\_ Lynx is smaller and never crashes but you get what you pay for.
\_ Use VM in NT emacs.
\_ XEmacs on NT
\_ Use Emacs in VM/CMS |
| 1999/11/9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16850 Activity:kinda low |
11.8 When I invoke Netscape View Document option, how do I make it so
that it will launch emacs or notepad.exe instead of the
lame-o-slow-n-big Netscape viewer?
\_ Edit the registry. |
| 1999/11/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:16828 Activity:moderate |
11/4 To the dork who thought that apple's web site runs on MacOS:
http://www.apple.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3 on Solaris
according to http://netcraft.com
\_ http://www.hotmail.com doesn't run NT nor IIS either.
\_ or webtv for that matter.
\_ it wasn't a dork, it was a troll. you dupe.
\_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Motd Troll.
\_ There's an http server that runs on MacOS? What's it called?
\_ Well, there's apache that runs on MacOS X. But that's not
what would be considered their traditional OS. WebStar is one
example of something that runs on MacOS.
\_ SUCKER! You got *trolled*! Obviously everyone but *you* got
it. I only said it as a joke at first but you were so gullibly
stupid, I just *had* to troll you further.
\_ examples of trolls you idiot:
WINDOWS SUX
\_ NO LINUX SUX
\_ NO WINDOWS SUX
\_ NO LINUX SUX
\_ NO BILL CLINTON SUX
\_ NO YOU SUCK
\_ nonono... MONICA SUX.
not "Netscape Enterprise runs on MacOS".
\_ You're just bitter that you got caught looking st00pid.
Sorry, but I don't adhere to your moronic definition of
troll and neither do most others. Your example isn't a
troll. It's just a waste of disk space and screen phosphor.
Not even you would get caught by that. |
| 1999/10/28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16782 Activity:nil |
10/27 Ya know, everytime I write something critical (and take hours to
write a letter), Netscape Mail crashes on me. It has happened THREE
TIMES. Now, I just write letters on a notepad (or emacs), save it,
THEN paste it to Netscape Mail. This is a common practice?
\_ Not as common as just NOT using netscape mail. Get a mail client
that works.
\_ Exactly. Why would you spend hours in a piece of shit like NS mail?
And why would you do it a second and third time after the first
crash? |
| 1999/10/21-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16750 Activity:nil |
10/21 where does lynx store its cookies, and why can't I get a
yahoo login cookie to persist? I go into my yahoo portfolio manually,
log in and set "remember my password", but if I restart lynx, or
quit it and do a lynx -dump, the cookie is gone and I get the
login page again.
\_ man lynx, read about cookies. don't forget to make sure your
cookie file is world readable so i can see how much money you've
lost in the market recently. -oj
\_ Hmm, i'm that obvious? Anyway thanks, "RTFM" was
sufficiently helpful |
| 1999/10/16-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16716 Activity:nil |
10/15 My company's firewall blocks all outgoing ports except for common
things like telnet, ssh, ftp, email, and http. I need to run
netscape locally that accesses port 4000 on an outside machine.
Is there a way for me to tunnel through somehow? ssh to soda
and running netscape over that link is too slow, that's not an
option.
\_ Viewing the page through http://www.anonymizer.com should work. |
| 1999/9/27-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16606 Activity:moderate |
9/27 http://www.kimble.org/kimmovie/kimble_themovie.swf (Anti-Gates movie.) \ ".swf" ? sheesh. whats the problem with .mov or something? \_ Great. An "anti-gates" movie that requires his software to view. \_ I can see it in Netscape 4.61 ...... under NT though. \_ I had no problem with Netscape 4.08 w/SW-Flash on my Linux 2.2.10 machine. |
| 1999/9/25-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16598 Activity:high 66%like:16599 |
9/25 Can netscape be run from soda?
\_ Nope, it takes up too much RAM and cycles, and you'd have
to send the $DISPLAY somewhere else anyway so it'd be a
waste of net as well. Run netscape on your local wkstn.
\_ Clue required. Clue would also say "you'd be a fool to do so".
Do a ps. You won't find any clue doing so. Use lynx if you must.
\_ WHAT A LOOSER. Don't fucking run netscape from soda you
piece of shit. Use Ed. You piece of fuck. In fact, just
fucking quit school and be a bum you piece of crap.
\_ i believe the misconception comes from using the soda hall
workstations |
| 1999/9/18-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:16546 Activity:low 61%like:16538 |
9/16 Thinking about getting a text pager (one where I can forward from
these pagers and service cost? Thanks.
\_ Bless you! Lynx with SSL rocks.
\_ Fat Whacker!
\_ Exactly like that. If it doesn't work for you, what error
message do you get?
\_ Please rewrite this in English and I will try and answer.
\_ Me speaky perfect goodly engrish so you fuck my mother!!! |
| 1999/9/17-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16537 Activity:moderate |
9/16 lynx 2.8.3dev.9 installed: URLs like telnet://-n.rhosts will no
longer actually start a telnet session logging to your .rhosts
file. I installed the SSL patch from http://www.moxienet.com/lynx too,
so HTTPS should work now. Bugs to mconst.
\_ Winnt? Source code? You're grasping.
\_ Bless you! Lynx with SSL rocks.
\_ I have a Motorola Advisor Gold FLX.
http://www.mot.com/MIMS/MSPG/Products/Alpha/advisor_gold
\_ SSL != HTTPS |
| 1999/9/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:16447 Activity:very high |
9/1 http://burnallgifs.org \_ Go read the slashdot update on Unisys's real position \_ Yeah- they just want to frighten people who don't know any better into paying them for a license they don't need. Funny, that doesn't make them look that much better. -cdaveb \_ http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/08/31/0143246&mode=thread |
| 1999/7/29-31 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16202 Activity:nil |
7/29 Why is it when I view some webpages, I get pages that are 2-3 days
out of date? I have to reload to get the most current version. I
thought perhaps this might be a broken cache in Netscape, but
this also occurs with URLs I've never been to before. I'm behind a
company firewall... would that have anything to do with it?
\_ you're probably behind a proxy, it's their job to cache
websites and server you old outdated data. see if you can
disable it in preferences.
\_ yes. |
| 1999/7/13-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:16120 Activity:high |
7/13 How do you write a PERL CGI that both starts a file downloading and
displays a "Thank you" page? (The download links on
http://home.netscape.com/download are a good example.) Thanks! -icrew
\_ Can't you just output the "Thank you" page and then use
<meta> to redirect to the download file? The download
shouldn't actually display a different file, but rather just
begin downloading. More specifically:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="#;URL">
Where "#" is a number (number of seconds), and URL is the URL
\_good idea, but it doesn't work--it just sits there and
continually refershes the "Thank you" screen. Thanks for your
help, tho... -icrew
\_ Worked just fine for me. Note that URL should be the
URL of the *download*, not of the current doc. See
<DEAD>www.csua/~emarkp/test_refresh.html<DEAD> -emarkp
\_ah. I forgot the "URL=" part. It does work, but
not the same way the same way the netscape one does b/c
it leaves the URL to the downloaded file in the "Netsite"
field and in the source of the "Thank you" page. My reason
for putting it behind a CGI was so that people couldn't get
this info so easily. -icrew
\_ When I try the Netscape site, the HTML header tells
me that the location is: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.61/windows/windows95_or_nt/complete_install/cc32e461.exe
so I don't see much difference.
\_ Netscape almost certainly uses some sort of javascript
\_nope. It works even with Java script turned off.
Ideas for a place where I might find the answer (instead
af asking it here) would also be appreciated. -icrew
\_ Simple, bonehead:
telnet http://www.netscape.com 80
GET <DEAD>WHATEVER/blah/blah<DEAD>
\_ Or "view source" from a browser. ahem.
\_ (Incorrect answers deleted.) Use Content-type: mixed/multipart |
| 1999/7/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16077 Activity:nil |
7/5 In the Dibert cartoons on Monday, is the rival company "Nirvana"
suppose to be like Netscape? |
| 1999/6/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15948 Activity:high |
6/11 Let's say the thirdvoice plugin just said something like "Click here
to see what others think about this site's content" (or something like
that). Would that make it more palatable to people?
\_ yeah but once you take out those little markers on the site
it gets a lot less fun - instead, you should have a big
button that says Toggle Graffiti/Notes so that you instantly
get a site that has the little markers or doesn't have them
\_ yeah but once you take out those little markers on the site it
gets a lot less fun - instead, you should have a big button that
says Toggle Graffiti/Notes so that you instantly get a site that
has the little markers or doesn't have them - and you should
default it to Off
\_ Does TV have the option to only view posts written to groups which
you are subscribed? This would make it a lot more manageable and
useful... For example, any CS group could annotate notes about a
project that was handed out and not have to share their notes/
pseudo-code with other groups, nor have to read any of the crap
written by other groups/spammers.
\_ Yes, it can, but not exactly like that. It has groups but you
can't yet disable public comments. -Judd |
| 1999/6/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15932 Activity:very high |
6/9 http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20101.html See the book burners and other control freaks take on Thirdvoice. Do all web designers think surfers are morons? A wd quoted in the article: "If somebody attached such a note to my site and a visitor is running Third Voice, they will see that note," Pastras said. "Because most general surfers are ignorant, they will think I'm supporting pornography." How common is this "surfers are ignorant monkeys" concept among web designers? \_ in general, not really. i wouldn't say they are ignorant, but when doing mass-appeal sites, one often has to consider the audience. some sites and online businesses have target audiences that are not net-savvy at all. what we take completely for granted is a new concept, a concept *at all* for someone who is 42 years old in their second month on aol or webtv. i had to teach my paents to use a mouse, and menus. i took it very for granted, but if you have never used a computer, and don't understand *remotely* what the internet really is, then you're not going to understand that thirdvoice is a completely different thing than the site you are looking at. their comment is out of line, it's not ignorance, it's just inexperience. and at the end of the day, i think thirdage is fine and dandy and wouldn't think of whining against it. it's fun to grafitti sites. having been in this industry for years and years now, though, i certainly know the types of people who are going to shit a brick over this. -caliban \_ Hmmm... ok I can see that after trying to get my parents on the net. However, people who are inexperienced to such a degree are likely to be completely incapable of finding a place like thirdvoice and installing the plugin. Is this an honest concern or are the designers just being pissy and controlling? \_ both. designers are pissiy and controlling - it's why i am stuck trying to impliment things in html that the language was never meant for. pixel perfection? feh. anyway. the clients tend to be very controlling. they are spending $2m for this project and they do not want any aspect to be out of their control. clients are rabid, insane beasts. i can also see it being an honest concern. i show up at mom & dads to install software for them - i have done this a few times. anyway, i install all this stuff, including 3rd voice. mom & dad could then have no idea the extent of the seperateness of these things, so could reasonably assume that it's all one package, and that the people on http://starbucks.com put the notes there. did i happen to mention that http://starbucks.com made my day hell today? --caliban \_ Surfers aren't *just* igorant monkeys -- they're ignorant monkeys looking for schoolgirl porn! \_ Well then we should use thirdvoice annotations to help them find their schoolgirl porn! \_ help them? Help MEEEEEEE! \_ hmm, try <DEAD>schoolgirlporn.com<DEAD> |
| 1999/6/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:15917 Activity:high |
6/8 Commentary on third voice:
http://www.macnn.com/contributions/webpages.shtml
\_ can anyone see the notes posted on that page? i have
thirdvoice installed, and it works on other pages. there
are notes posted on that page; thirdvoice pulls up the
topics in their frame but i am unable to read them.
clicking on the note icon in the text does not work.
i get an occasional javascript error, i wonder if they
are hosing the thirdvoice stuff somehow. --caliban
\_ I can read it ok. That's what public betas are for. If you
mail your system details and the URL to feedback@thirdvoice.com
someone will check it out. -Judd
\_ strangely enough that site's annotations are failing in my
3rdvoice client too. -Eric
\_ Watch the web designer weenies whine! They just can't share the
internet.
\_ Amazing! Singaporeans pushing the limits of free speech.
\_ Yeah, go figure! |
| 1999/6/4-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15907 Activity:low |
6/4 Anyone know of an easy way to get pine to read html? (like
using lynx as a viewer, etc.)
\_ put the following in your .mailcap file:
# Handle text files in HTML format:
text/html;/usr/local/bin/lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal
\_ Still looking for an HTML mail package for Xemacs...
\_ thanks for the tip. i don't have a ~/.mailcap - is there
another location for this? -caliban
\_ Just create the file. It'll still work with Pine. |
| 1999/5/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15866 Activity:moderate |
5/23 And now for something completely differerent....
http://www.hamsterdance.com
<DEAD>www.fishydance.com<DEAD>
http://www.cowdance.com (etc, follow links at the bottom)
\_ wow you are a couple of months slower than my coworkers. Congrats
you win the prize.
\_ you forgot to mention that this shit isn't even remotely
different. it's as trendy as n'sync.
\_ Next time I'll check on the "Fun things csua alum coworkers have
already shown them" web page. Until I get the url for it, I'll
have to continue posting things I find amusing that someone
other than your arrogant prick self may not have seen yet.
\_ the point is that if my coworkers have sent it to me almost
everyone else has seen it 3 months ago.
\_ "everyone else". Your coworkers represent the world of
all internet people? They are the last to see anything?
I'm online all damned day at work and never saw it. The
point is that if your coworkers sent it to you almost
everyone else *in your company* has seen it 3 months ago.
It says *nothing* about anyone else having seen it.
\_ well I always thought my coworkers would be the last to
find out aobut some stupid over done internet trend and
think it was cool. Obviously I was wrong. You are.
That is why you win the prize.
\_ Oh ouch! I'm in such pain! Where's that web site
of stupid over done internet trends so I don't have
to waste your time any further? URL, please. |
| 1999/5/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15819 Activity:high |
5/17 Tired of the marketing lies on microsoft's (or your competitor's)
web site? Put in your own opinions, for others to see! ThirdVoice
finally goes public with their software product. Check it out and
come see the formerly secret new product I've been working on.
<DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> The thirdvoice browser plugin is MSIE4 only, on
NT/95 of course. -ERic Anakin wins the race
\_ Discussion about <DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> web site being designed by
idiots censored by thirdvoice employees who don't want people
\_ not anymore
to know that no one in their company can actually test their
work.
\_ dude, get a decent browser
work. Episode II is a love story.
\_ Just viewing the web page requires MSIE? Your
web designers are complete idiots. It takes
two seconds to put the style sheet inside
<!-- --> tags so it won't show up on browsers
like netscape 3. (See www.csua for instance).
This isn't hard or secret - it's recommended
in every guide to CSS style sheets. Remember
designing web pages that are only usable in
certain browsers is the same as saying "Fuck
you - we don't need your business" to everyone
else - not a good way to start a company.
\_ dude, get a decent browser (Obi-wan kills Darth Maul)
\_ Sigh... look, it's a new product, a new company, and I'm
sorry your old browser isn't supported. I won't address
the censorship claim. The motd is world writable and gets
regularly scrubbed by numerous people. Your comments
regarding the tags have already been passed along to people
in the company who can do something about it. I'm certain
it will be taken care of ASAP. Thank you for taking the
\_ I'm using Netscape 3 - less than 3 years old, thank you.
time and effort to visit our home, try out our brand new
product and provide constructive feedback. -reiffin
\_ oh yeah, its MSIE4 only, on NT/95 of course. bleah
\_ looks great in non-stylesheet browsers since they didn't hide
the stylesheets in HTML comment tags. Try getting some
web designers who know what they're doing and how to test
with something other than the latest versions.
\_ Uhm whatever. I think you missed the point. Can you not
understand "MSIE4 only" and "NS coming soon"? -not ERic
\_ Hey, looks ok to me. I dunno what crap you're running but
tough shit for using an ancient piece of shit client. Join
this decade.
\_ FUCK YOU IT"S ALL ABOUT lynx
\_ I think the lynx client is still in the
'concept' stage. You'll be the first to know
Third Voice with ERic)
when its beta-ready. :-) -reiffin (at
Third Voice with ERic) Anakin wins the race
\_ oh yeah, its MSIE4 only, on NT/95 of course.
\_ I like the stupid banner ad on <DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> that
says "Click here to download the software" and that takes you
to the same damn page when you click on it. Perhaps your
company should invest in testing.
\_ And software engineers that can do anything besides MS
code. But that's another story...
\_ And of course, the coolest thing about ThirDvoice is it can make
anybody's web page as full of stupid and inane comments as the motd!
\_ Hey, let's make this MOTD thirdvoice-compliant!
\_ duh, it already is. http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/motd |
| 1999/5/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15791 Activity:moderate |
5/10 Why is it that dict (aliased to
lynx -dump <DEAD>www.eb.com:180/cgi-bin/g/Dictionary\?!*|<DEAD> more
) doesn't work anymore?
\_ man viagra
\_ unalias dict or give a useful bug report (Do you get an error?
What behavior do you get instead of "working?") Would you be
satisfied if your project was just marked "F. Doesn't work" and
the grader didn't tell you anything more? Would you know how to
fix it?
satisfied if your project was just marked "F. Didn't give me
nookie" and the grader didn't tell you anything more? Would
you know how to fix it?
\_ I'd venture to say that anyone who has taken an intro EE
course at Berkeley lately knows that this is how assignments
there tend to be graded. -brg |
| 1999/5/3-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15739 Activity:kinda low |
5/3 Is there a way to make Pnews change my email address from
foo@bar to something like foo@no.spam.bar? If Pnews can't do that
is there another newsreader that can do that? I'm looking for a
text based newsreader, not some giant program like netscape. Thanks.
\_ rtfm.
\_ use pine for news.
\_ Blasphemy!
\_ Only heatens would use pine instead of the one true
newsreader GNUS!
\_ pine users can spell. |
| 1999/3/31-4/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15670 Activity:low |
3/30 Mozilla Party 2.0 this Thursday:
http://www.mozilla.org/party/1999/faq.html
\_ Mozilla 1.0 would be a nice thing at some point.. |
| 1999/3/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15632 Activity:nil |
3/22 Netscape 4.51 is out! |
| 1999/2/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15332 Activity:low |
2/1 Anyone know how to make lynx accept all cookies by default?
\_ Replace the body of the function HTConfirmCookie in HTAlert.c
with "return true"
\_ I was hoping for a solution that didn't involve recompiling,
but thanks anyway
\_ Try -cookies as per the man page. This wasn't that
difficult. People, please use what God gave you. Try
to make some minimal attempt before asking.
\_ But -cookies will _turn off_ all cookie handling, not
accept all cookies. Won't it? |
| 1998/12/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15101 Activity:high |
12/15 On your UNIX machine, type "mosaic". I just did it for the very first
time since 1995 and I totally miss Mosaic. Although it lacked many
fancy features that we see today, it was fast and reliable. Compared
to the elgant Mosaic browser, today's Netscrape Bloatware 4.0 is
simply the ugliest monster (and the slowest) I have ever seen.
\_ I've got you beat there. 1992 - one of the first versions that
NCSA came out with and it worked fine for me. Netscape wouldn't
be so bad if it didn't have all that java/javascript crap. It
would be nice for someone to start a decent GPL web browser.
\_ Java troll deleted.
\_ i thought mosaic was from uiuc, not ncsa. - ali
\_ http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu
\_ Bloat good, stability/fast bad.
\_ one word: lynx
\_ Mosaic was never reliable, it was if anything more of a
piece of shit than Netscape.
\_ troll deleted -tom |
| 1998/12/15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15093 Activity:nil |
12/13 SHARE THAT SHAREWARE AND PAY FOR IT, TOO!
This is International Shareware Day, a day to celebrate
and also to reward the efforts of thousands of computer
programmers who trust that if we try their programs and
like them, we will pay for them.
Sound like a quaint idea? Well, it's one way to make sure
their efforts aren't stifled.
So, the way to celebrate International Shareware Day is to
inventory our shareware and then, in the holiday spirit, to
write payment checks to the authors of any we use and
haven't yet acknowledged.
(Might be nice to include a note of appreciation, too, don't
you think? Still in the holiday spirit, you know. . .)
This idea comes from David Lawrence's "Online Today":
http://online-today.com/later_today.html
\_does this mean we have to pay for xv now?
\_ I don't support shareware that much anymore. These days what
passes for shareware is actually more like a trial-version of
a commercial program. For example, many "shareware" programs
stop working after a time, or have certain features disabled.
What's the difference between that and a commercial program
that you can download and try for 30 days?
\_ uh, shareware is commercial software that you can download
and try for a period of time. That's the definition.
Many traditional commercial software companies are now
using a shareware/demo model; that doesn't somehow make
the model invalid. -tom
\_ That's apparently the definition now. Originally,
shareware was freeware that included a message
asking you to send the author some money if you
liked the program. I find that much easier to
support.
\_ That's bullshit. I've been using and paying for
shareware for over 10 years, and the definition
never included "freeware". Freeware is free
software. Shareware is commercial software. -tom
\_ This seems to be a bigger trend on the Windows side of
the market (makes sense too, what with the bigger
numbers). As a Mac user, I still see a lot of kickass
best of breed indie shareware, e.g. Anarchie, DragThing,
FinderPop, Kaleidoscope, YA-Newswatcher, Netpresenz
(none of which are crippled, though the authors do
encourage paid registrations). Peter Lewis' Stairways
Software (makers of Anarchie and Netpresenz) is
particularly cool--they trust users with a simple, and
intentionally unprotected, "I paid" checkbox to turn off
shareware reminders.
\_ Somebody explain to me why I should ever trust something I don't
have full source code for. The only two programs I use regularly
that take the system down (when used in combination) are
Navigator 4.5 and AcceleratedX. Granted, neither are shareware,
but my point is that virtually all (xv is the only exception
I know of) shareware is closed-source, and usually unrefined
and unreliable. I don't think I've ever used a shareware
program I've found useful and reliable enough to purchase.
I also regretted purchasing most of the commercial software
I've bought over the years, usually finding it to be limited
in useful functionality, barely debugged, and slow as shit
rolling uphill.
\_ if you don't want to use software without the source code
available, why the fuck are you using Windows? -tom
\_ I'm not, you fuckwit, and I use AccelX only because
XF86 barfs at my video card. You won't catch me
running anything that I don't have source for
unless there's no workable alternative.
\_ there's no workable alternative for Netscape 4.5?
what's wrong with mozilla? -tom
\_ There is much anger in this one.
\_ Microsoft and this whole closed-source mentality have set
computing back at least a decade. |
| 1998/12/1-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15050 Activity:low |
12/1 RMS speaks tomorrow at SVLUG meeting at Netscape, see
"http://www.svlug.org/" etc. -- schoen
\-you should ask him to sing some Xmas carols. --psb
\_ Anyone else still around who played netrek on RMS's Berkeley account
after getting kicked out of the labs?
\_ Of course! Actually it was much better in the planetary cluster,
because they weren't banned until 11PM like the Web was. Plus
the machines weren't quite as lame. -tom |
| 1998/11/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:15014 Activity:nil |
11/23 Anyone know what you need to do to make Netscape on Solaris
understand multipart mail messages ? |
| 1998/11/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Recreation/Media] UID:15013 Activity:moderate |
11/23 Oh god... http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm FANS 'WEEP AND SHAKE' OVER NEW STAR WARS TRAILER Internet posters on Harry Knowles' Web site AIN'T IT COOL NEWS [ http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com ] talked about "weeping and shaking" while watching the new STAR WARS trailer last week! Entertainment epilepsy. A fan named David Chung summed up his feelings: "What can I say. George Lucas must be a superior form of life!" \_ when you're a worm, just about everything is a superior form of life. |
| 1998/11/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15007 Activity:nil |
11/23 AOL and Netscape are teaming up. Expect AOL4.1 to crash every 5 min now
\_ Netscape 4.0 really sucks
\_ as well as yermom?
\_ http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/16429.html
say it isn't so!
\_ Yeah, Wired News is lying to you. They just make up all their
stories. Don't believe anything you see on the net or anyone
over 30.
over 30. And the newspapers are all lying, and the TV and radio
commentators are lying. It's a giant media conspiracy to make
you personally falsely believe that NS sold out to AOL. ZOG. |
| 1998/10/30-31 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14857 Activity:low |
10/29 How do I save a real audio file off the web? If I right-click on a
real audio link and do "Save link as" it just saves the link and
not the actual .ram file
\_ If it's off a real media server, then you need Real Player Plus
(not the free version) to download it. If it's just a file on
a server, then you can right-click + download.
\_ Most RealPlayer (.ram) files on the net have been designted
copyrighted so they can not be saved even with Real Player
Plus. So don't buy it thinking you can save a bunch of
RealPlayer files afterworrds, I have yet to use this feature.
\_ ?? I have used netscape to download, then play, .ram files.
trouble is, I had to wade through HTML to find the real
path sometimes.
\_ It really depends on what server they are using. If they
are using a pnm:// (I think it's pnm) protocol, then good
luck. If it's just on a web site (eg: http:// then you can
easily grab the file. What I'd like to know if if one could
figure out a way of keeping track of pnm packets, time-
stamping them, and then doing a fake retranmission of them
to Real Player whenever you want to listen. If you have a
clear transmission the first time, this would in essence
allow one to get the full thing on their hard drive, whether
or not it's protected. (or for that matter, one could
simply hook their line-out into a tape deck, but that's too
easy!)
\_ Try just going into the advanced application portion of the
preferences file (in netscape not sure about IE) and setting
the option to ask before downloading for .ram files. This
should allow you to save the file, not sure if it gets around
the problem with the time stamps, I am pretty sure it does not. |
| 1998/10/13-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:14769 Activity:low |
10/12 Is there a web site for the Spanish channel Ch14? Thanks.
\_ http://www.univision.com
\_ But that's a company called VisiCom which makes video
hardware. |
| 1998/10/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14736 Activity:high |
10/4 In which directory is the mail kept? I'd rather not have
Netscape scan all the folders in my user directory. --pcjr
\_ /var/spool/mail/pcjr on svr4 systems. i don't know about bsd
system. try typing: set | grep -i mail
system. i think it's /usr/mail/pcjr.
try typing: echo $mail
~/mail usually has your pine folders.
\_/var/mail, actually. and also check $MAIL
\_ What do you mean? What mail? Your mail spool? Saved mail?
\_ It's pcjr being lame again. I suggest "man mail". |
| 1998/9/5-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14552 Activity:moderate |
9/5 Nightly untested Mozilla builds now available @ http://www.mozilla.org \_ Does not include Java, the way Netscape and other web browsers should be. SSL is missing though, which is bad. \_ There is Cryptozilla (<DEAD>www.cryptozilla.org<DEAD> not up to date, though. :-( \_ Truly scary. |
| 1998/9/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14544 Activity:high |
9/3 HEY! Where'd gopher go!?!
\_ It's lying in the corner, badly neglected, barely breathing, and
left for dead by pretty much everyone.
\_ Yah, but *THE CSUA* should still have it available.
(or do i just need to add that corner (which corner?) to
path)?
\_ lynx gopher:// |
| 1998/8/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14418 Activity:high |
7/31 Latest M$ claim:
The company said the following in court filings: [...] It
planned to integrate its Internet Explorer technologies "long
before" Netscape Communications even existed, refuting the
government's claim. In a conference call, Microsoft
said that it has been working since as far back as late
1993 on this project.
\_ I've seen IE on the Win 95 beta (code name Chicago) in summer of
1994. It wasn't called IE then. At that time, I had no idea
what WWW is.
\_ I remembered when Chicago was being presented. It was
the days of NCSA Mosaic which was about the same time that
Netscape was about to start. www wasn't as big but it was
still there.
\_ is really doesn't matter what m$/gov claims on the ie issue. in
the end gov will define clearly what an o/s is and is not, and what
an app is and is not for the software industry because the software
industry is either incapable or unwill to do it. just compare it with
the development of the tv rating system.
\_ I thought the IE/OS issue has already been settled by some
court. The issue now is whether M$ has participated in
anti-competitive practices such as designing OS to purposely
destroy its competitors (Netscape, RealNetworks, Caldera,
etc.
\_ That decision was decided by judges who knew jack
about what an OS and web client is. M$ can make the
\_ What the judges say, ignorant or not, is what
will happen.
ridiculous argument that merging OS/IE improves
performance because it allows it to load up faster.
the icon it won't take as long. Hell, might as well
When you think about this really means that Win98
loads up most of IE so that when you double click
load programs into memory because it will already be
the icon it won't take as long. Hell, you might as well
load up every other program on your computer at boot
time while you're at it. That way you won't have to
load programs into memory when you really need them
because it will already be
there. The fact is Active Desktop SUCKS, and so
does IE, and your computer is not a fucking web
page. You don't internet explore your hard drive.
\_ The best thing about the Active Desktop is that
you still have the option to turn it off. --dim
\_ IE not only loads faster, it runs faster than
netscape.
\_ Here's the deal. Windows 98 is faster than
than Windows 95 with IE4 integrated. BUT, Windows
95 without IE4 (i.e., not integrated but as a separate
app or just running Netscape) is FASTER than both
Windows 95+IE4 integrated AND Windows 98. --pcjr
\_ In what way? Java? That's because they
changed the specs to be M$ pseudo java. I
wonder how netscape and IE compare to each
other on a unix box where it's fair.
\_ Netscape beats the crap out of IE on a solaris
box. Despite netscape extermely slow load
uptime, it is still faster than IE which uses
all that MainSoft crap. And IE won't run on
anything less than an ultra, netscape will run
just fine on an SS2.
\_ *I* IExplore(tm) my hard drive! Bill said it was
the best way! Everything is a web page! All data
is best represented as a web page! BILL! BILL!
BILL! |
| 1998/7/8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14304 Activity:nil |
7/8 root@cory looking for student to run around yelling "No food in labs!"
and answer mail saying "Netscape gives bus errors because it sucks."
and they pay you $17/hour - <DEAD>www-inst.eecs/~iesg/jobs.html<DEAD> |
| 1998/7/2-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14286 Activity:nil |
7/2 Internet Explorer Trademark Suit settled. Synet gets $5M.
\_ And you know how that will just put a huge dent in
my ass. |
| 1998/6/29-7/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14264 Activity:high |
6/29 M$ doesn't own the name "Internet Explorer"
http://www.slashdot.org/articles/9806281343225.shtml
\_ Uhm yeah... go try to get any form of legal ownership or use
the name for your own product or commercial venture.
\_ MS'es lawyers argue that "Internet Explorer" is a generic
term and can't be trademarked, otherwise MS would owe
milllions to a defunct startup that trademarked it before
MS knew what the internet was.
\_ Funny the kinds of crap M$ gets away with these
days. Next thing you know they'll be claiming
that they invented the operating system and
compiler and will start suing everyone in back
fees including gnu.
\_ Generic . . . yeah. I used to throw around "Internet
Explorer" all the time in my everyday conversation
before MSIE. "Honey, I'm going to the store to pick up
a pound of sugar, a gallon of milk, and a couple of
internet explorers -- anything else you need?"
\_ I just put in PO for several internet explorers.
So, what's your point?
\_ That you're buying a _specific product_. People
don't use the name "Internet Explorer" to talk
about a _class_ of generic, interchangeable
products that come from multiple sources. Did
you ever hear somebody using the term "Internet
Explorer" before MSIE came along?
\_ Then you are arguing what can be trademarked
and what can't. This is still the line that
characteristics of compression. You can't compress
infinite amount of data to fit in finite storage
unless the compression is lossy.
\_ Clearly you don't know how philcompress works.
\_ I understand both concepts. I assure you
the MS legal team would overcome the
abilities of even the mighty philcompress
features of the philFS. And yes I do
understand the technical abilities of
philFS/compress, its just that MS's lawyers
would overcome it.
\_ No. If you knew what philcompress
was you'd understand, and not have
to make up BS to hide the fact that
you can't tell the difference between
a running joke and an industry
standard. -mel
\_ I find your lack of faith in PhilWare
disturbing.
\_ Philtrust.
\_ Philistine!
\_ No, you still lack understanding.
Remember during the first antitrust
fracas how MS said that they weren't a
monopoly, because nothing was protecting
them from somebody, sometime, coming up
with a better idea and eating their
lunch? Well, Phil is it.
is very subjective.
\_ "Internet Explorer by Phillip Nunez"
\_ MS would dump so much legal crap on Phillip, even
Phil's file system would fill. MS would find a way.
\_ Microshaft: Where do you want it today?
\_ Philsue!!!!!
\_ Clearly you don't know about one of the great features
of philfs -- its impossible to fill it up! When a philfs
file system starts getting close to full, it automatically
starts philcompressing files.
\_ Cleary you don't know about one of the key
characteristics of compression.
\_ Clearly you don't know about one of the key features
of philcompress. |
| 1998/6/8-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:14183 Activity:nil |
6/6 GIMP 1.0 is out, see http://www.gimp.org -- one of many nice projects to originate at Cal, and damn fine software for graphics on Unix. \_ what do you think this is? http://www.freshmeat.net ? \_ XCF RULES!! \_ One decent project a decade and you get excited? (well, maybe two if you count PRCS, but that's more a hilfingr hack than a XCF project) \_ Netrek? Yarn? \_ Can I read my mail from it? RMS told me software can't possibly be useful unless it has a mail reader. \_ So write the plug-in. \_ Just use exmh with the tcl plugin |
| 1998/5/19-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14106 Activity:low |
5/18 Where is http://dsp.berkeley.edu? \_ Probably in the Disabled Students Program office on Lower Sproul \_ http://dsp.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.249.85 128.32.249.0/24 # Cesar Chavez (Golden Bear) ctr, Student Services \_ Why do you care? \_ Needs an easy date who can't easily complain after a quickie date rape. \_ They renamed it? Odd. \_ Yes, soon they'll rename the Campanile to be the Animal Rights Pointy Thingy. |
| 1998/4/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/HW] UID:13969 Activity:low |
4/16 Hello is there a little shell-based LDAP client that i can use
to submit a known query to see if an ldap server is up. Something
that will either return 0 + output on success and timeout and return
not0 on fail? pointers appreciated. --psb
\_ ldapsearch -t time -b basedn -s scope filter attributes
\-i see this in the netscape tree, but is source avail for
this or it is netscapes? tnx. --psb
\_ For Michigan/Netscape derrived LDAP servers, you can do a
base search on cn=monitor, which is guaranteed to exist, even
on an empty server. You can get the source for the ldapsearch
client from the Michgan slapd. It's also in the LDAP book by
Tim Howes. --atom |
| 1998/4/8 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13917 Activity:high |
4/7 Is it just me or does Netscape 4.x have problems running Java on
Windows NT 4.0? -- disgruntled windoze slave
\_ See the following MS Knowledge Base article for a fix:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q168/7/48.asp
-slow (the same problem afflicts IE3 & Netscape)
\_ and no, i cannot switch to another OS.
\_ HAHAHAAHAHA -evil clown
\_ however, you CAN switch to another implementation of java.
\_ http://developer.netscape.com/tech/java
download JDK 1.1 support. |
| 1998/4/8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13915 Activity:high |
4/7 Does anyone who has read the Mozilla license recall what it says
about the distribution of binaries compiled from modified Netscape
source? -- upset about Netscape's plans to support PICS
\_ Upset? Isn't that a bit overly emotional? Relax. It's ok. |
| 1998/4/4-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13900 Activity:nil |
4/3 For all those worried about mozilla not having crypto:
<DEAD>mozilla-crypto.ssleay.org<DEAD> |
| 1998/4/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13886 Activity:kinda low |
3/31 Crash Worship @ Maritime Hall, Apr 1st. Netscape issued a press
release stating that "official" Mozilla release party will be held
at Maritime Hall (close to Sound Factory, where unofficial bash
will be happening) and all interested parties should purchase tickets
in advance via ticketweb. The attire is formal and noone under 21
will be admitted (free wetbar). Obey your thirst! -petr
\_What is "crash worship"?
\_ See above the history of Muni and the bus error. |
| 1998/3/31-4/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13879 Activity:nil |
3/31 /csua/tmp/mozilla/mozilla-1998-03-31-unix.tar.gz
\_ alanc, how come the mtime on this file is 9:00, if the source was
released at 10:00?
\_ alan actually reverse-engineered it from the binaries
\_ alan actually wrote it in the first place
\_ why do you care?
\_ hey, he owns the file, he can set the mtime to whatever the
fuck he wants. |
| 1998/3/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13871 Activity:nil |
3/29 EMERGENCY JAVASCRIPT CODING JOB!!!!
A little startup company that contacted me is looking for some
JavaScript'ing for 2 HTML pages for use in a demo on a
PowerBook with Netscape 4.0. Sounds like a couple onMouseOver
effects and image-reloading kind of stuff. Needs to be done
for a demo to show viability of service/product concept.
They're looking for someone that knows their Web stuff and can
get the job done soon. Probably willing to pay a couple
hundred $$ dollars or more. Contact at (510) 410-5796 or
e-mail me or ytalk me at lowtek@shell3.ba.best.com if any
questions -slow@csua |
| 1998/3/28-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13867 Activity:high |
3/26 http://Mozilla.org party 4/1 at the Sound Factory. Free Source, Free Party. Everyone invited. http://www.mozilla.org/party \_ It sounds good. I just read the distressing news today, though, that Mozilla Navigator will not contain crypto, will not contain hooks for crypto, may not accept modifications which make it compatible with crypto, etc. All this over export issues, because they say that Netscape would be a highly visible target for politicians if they permitted the inclusion of crypto. Doesn't this constitute a strong argument against Mozilla Navigator in general? Even lynx has SSL! http://www.mozilla.org/crypto-faq.html \_ Add it yourself. Duh. \_ WTF would I use it for if I had to add it myself? Maybe I just want to *use* a browser instead of *program* one? DUH! \_ then download the normal version from netscape, you idiot. -tom \_ no shit tom you low grade moron. you once again "dont get it". no surprise. \_ I don't get it either - why would someone who doesn't want to hack on the browser care what is in the redistributable source code? Besides, netscape's not stopping anyone else from adding crypto and going up against the US Crypto Gestapo. \_ Because that means if anyone else hacks it up with something I like but doesn't add their own crypto, then I have a choice of NS crypto sans CoolThing or CoolThing sans crypto. Get it NOW? \_ If you want to be cool, that is your problem. \_ No, it's NS's. I'm a consumer. They have to make people like me happy or cash it in. Got it *NOW*? \_ so how much have you spent on Netscape products? \_ Roughly $2k in the last few years. \_ Why don't you just leech them like everyone else? \_ I work at a real company that doesn't fall under the previous NS .EDU leech policy. Out here in the RW, we _pay_ for things. \- You can bet that unless the source distribution license explicitly forbids putting the crypto back in, that crypto will be one of the first CoolThings that third parties try to hack back into it. \_ Ok, good point. I haven't read the license so I can't comment. I will say though that I would rather have NS crypto than unknown, although _possibly_ better, crypto. \_ If you're going to make a fool out of yourself in public, sign your name. \_ What's up with the moronic anonymous hypocrites insisting that others sign their names when they won't sign their own? Why bother loading up an editor on the motd when you have *nothing* to say which is in _any_ way pertinent to the thread? Why are you still here wasting perfectly good oxygen when you could be dead, returning to the earth some small bit of the resources you've stolen and put to no good use? *PLEASE* do yourself and everyone else a favor: the next time you have nothing to say beyond the typical trollish "sign your name!" stupidity, just don't. Instead take a moment to reflect and then kill yourself quietly and efficiently. Thank you for your contributions to this thread. I expect to read in the Cal about how "GEEK KILLS SELF! SAVES SELF FROM FURTHER ABUSE!" sometime in the next few weeks. [Keep deleting this if you like. I have it in a file, you hypocritical moron.] \_ http://www.mozilla.org/crypto-faq.html#1-10 -- I guess they will allow it but it will be a little inconvenient. That's actually what it's like for lynx-ssl now. \_Any car pools? |
| 1998/3/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13823 Activity:nil |
3/17 When trying to run Netscape on Linux, I get "sh: mcr: command not
found." What's "mcr?"
\_ A clue might be had from creating a shell script named "mcr"
which echoes the command line with which it's called. (Disclaimer:
I don't know what it does, this is just a general technique I might
use to find out, if the documentation were not of use.) -brg |
| 1998/2/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:13682 Activity:high |
02/16 In Apache, when I use .htaccess, how do I "log-off" from a browser?
Thanks.
\_ You're not "logged on" in the first place; http connections are
stateless. If the browser decides to store the username and
password, that's the browser's business.
\_ Okay then, how do I make the browser not use the username
and password during HTTP transaction then?
\_ Restart the browser or get one that lets you
clear stored passwords
\_ Restart-- you mean quit and start again? Sheesh
\_ Yep - sucks don't it?
\_ Yep. Sucks don't it?
\_ It's totally browser-dependent. Once Netscape
/------------------/
Once Netscape releases the source, expect the days to look like the
80's when people have to deal with DOS 2.0/3.0/MSDOS/Windows 2.0/OS2
Geoworks OS incompatibility, not mentioning incompatibilities between
MSWord/WordPerfect/WordStar/AmiPro/Lotus/blah blah blah. Proliferation
of many different warez means happiness and perhaps some creativity but
it also means a lot of headache for the end users. Are the average
American Joe sophisticated enough that they can handle so many
different platforms with different HTML standards, plug-ins, c00l
features, this and that, or they just want a simple burger that
satisfies their stomach? What do the dumb average American Joes want?
releases the source you could make a "forget
passwords" button or something.
\_ Seriously doubt Joe User is going to d/l a hacked up copy of NS
from http://www.butchery.org They're going to go to netscape, as always,
and d/l the version made available by the NS people. The NS
version is going to be a "best-of-the-net" browser. Or so says
\_ Dronage deleted. For your reference, it said:
"\_ Next drone deletion means deletion of entire motd. Watch it u nazi."
NS.
\_ so? what does this have to do with the above?
"You have been warned"
NS.
\_ So? What does this have to do with anything?
\_ It has to do with a large piece of text that was deleted. |
| 1998/2/14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13670 Activity:moderate |
2/13 Running the command 'lynx http://www.toxic.org/~toxic/crashme.shtml has been declared a squishable offense. Do it and die. --route \_ What does it do? I went there via netscape and just got "I love perl" and my machine's name and IP. \_Yah, and it says that even if you just go to .../~toxic/ and download the file too. How does it do that? (i'm assuming some cgi thing.) |
| 1998/2/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:13664 Activity:moderate |
2/12 Last month, the Clinton Administration announced that it will spend
$28 million to retrain workers, create an Internet jobs bazaar and try
to convince kids that the computer sciences are cool. The p.-r.
blitz will include public service videos starring Jimmy Smits,
tough-guy star of the television cop show NYPD Blue.
\_ Isn't CS61A full enough already?
\_ Not enough potstickers to go around anymore?
\_ Oh good.. flood the industry with idiots and marginalize all of us.
\_ The CS61A undergraduate teaching assistant industry?
\_ WONDERFUL. More Microsoft-like people writing more code, and now
applications will crash way more than ever. I remember the good 'ol
days of text applications with DOS and apps just don't crash the
way they do now. Microsoft/Netscape are two fine examples. |
| 1998/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13651 Activity:nil |
2/10 Any mailers here support LDIF ? I wanna use my address book from
netscape mail |
| 1998/2/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13631 Activity:high |
2/05 Why no nekkid gurlz URLs ?
\_ http://www.hotsex.com
h/5 NEW YORK (AP) -- Facing intense competition from Microsoft, Netscape
Communications Corp. is considering selling some or all of the
company, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.
Netscape was in discussions with America Online Inc., Sun Microsystems
Inc., Oracle Corp. and IBM Corp. about strategic investments or an
outright purchase, the newspaper said, citing unnamed sources familiar
with the situation of the Internet software company.
\_ 2-for-1 Sale! Buy Netscape and we'll throw in Apple for free!
\_ At least Netscape has a product that lots of people use.
\_ At least some people try to be differrent from the crowd.
\_ Not really. Apple's goal of running themselves
into the ground is an old story. They predated
any usable form of Windows by years and totally
fucked up a huge technology and marketing advantage
and for the last ten years their third rate, niche
products and religious followers are paying the
price. |
| 1998/2/5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13628 Activity:high |
2/5 NEW YORK (AP) -- Facing intense competition from Microsoft, Netscape
Communications Corp. is considering selling some or all of the
company, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.
Netscape was in discussions with America Online Inc., Sun Microsystems
Inc., Oracle Corp. and IBM Corp. about strategic investments or an
outright purchase, the newspaper said, citing unnamed sources familiar
with the situation of the Internet software company.
\_ it's about time the stock price moved. what a lame ass investment.
\_ 2-for-1 Sale! Buy Netscape and we'll throw in Apple for free! |
| 1998/1/27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13570 Activity:nil |
1/26 GNUtscape soon to be available
\_ YEAH! Down with Netscape, down with Microsoft, GNUtscape will
win the heart of the people!
\_ It will be called GNUtscape GNUvigator -wombat
\_ Bullshit. |
| 1998/1/25-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13562 Activity:nil |
1/24 Freely Redistributed Software Track - USENIX'98
more news in ~jon/pub/freenix.announce
\_ bet Netscape will be the hot topic on everyone's minds
\_ bet you're flat dead wrong. |
| 1998/1/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13553 Activity:high |
1/21 Netscape homepage finally looks decent! It took those idiots
3 years to figure out that:
- they're hiring too many stupid people who write c0r3 dump war3z
- their web site sucked big time
\_ They still need to kill the stupid pop-up menu/tab things that
show up if you use netscape4
\_ Yeah, now it's *almost* useful. Too bad one of the companies that
helped popularise the web can't get their own web page(s) together.
\_ Now if they can give me a browser that doesn't IGNORE its
OWN preferences, "Use MY fonts, overriding document",
so I don't have 2 millimetre-high fonts on their page...
\_ Netscape will give away the SOURCE code of the browser
for FREE to anybody starting with version 5.0. Now
you can modify the src and give yourself whatever kind
of browser you want.
\_ NO THANKS. Debugging bloatwarez for Netscrape for free
is not my idea of fun.
\_ The whole source? To what exactly?
\_ Communicator
\_ 5.0
_ frame -- a Netscape disease. Can't live with, can't live without.
\_ i can sure live without it. |
| 1997/11/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32165 Activity:nil 53%like:14061 |
11/18 New technical support positions available at Netscape. Check
out /usr/local/csua/jobs/Netscape
\_ wow -- you mean netscape finally decided to provide technical
support? That's cool. Id rather be buggered by a dry-rotting
broom handle than do tech support at 'scrape, but hey, they
have k001 shirtz.
\_ Better late than never, right! Plus there's free beer |
| 1997/5/15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32150 Activity:nil |
5/14 get a fucking clue already - no one gives a shit about whether or not
you think marc andreesoon is "pudgy".
\_ :(
\_ marc andreesoon the netscape guy? you are just jealous that
he is rich. what is a pudgy btw?
\_ A pudgy is sort of a like a tulip or a rosebush except
the pudgy isn't a plant, doesn't have a stem, pedals,
is vaguely humanoid in shape and is fat.
\_ He doesn't "work at netscape". He owns a big chunk of it
and its in his best interest to see netscape do well. He's
a major shareholder, not a pool programmer, sheesh. Yes,
he's fat.
\_ The point is he is still working really really heard,
talking about all this intranet bullshit, stuffing his
face with twinkies and probably has little life outside
netscape. So it's pretty sad, even though he is the
most sucessful twink ever! I think that's what that person
was talking about.
\_ Good thing Bill Gates is a billionaire, and the richest
man in the world (with a legitimate business), otherwise
he'd never get laid either, or even be seen with a
supermodel. Actually, in his early years of
public appearances, he's always looked so
gross and nerdy -- god awful bad fashion glasses,
greasy hair, and acne -- the typical CSUA guy.
But now, he has a decent haircut, expensive
Armani wire-rimmed glasses, etc., and kinda
boyish, almost cute. --pcjr
\_ Kind of like me, except that you should replace "almost
cute" with "dashingly handsome, frighteningly intelligent,
a real great guy, and modest to boot!" -John
\_ plus you could snap Bill Gates like a twig. -tom
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| 1997/3/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32087 Activity:high |
3/5 The Netscape|Sun|Oracle vs. Microsoft|Intel war is not a battle over
the internet or computer, it is about good vs evil.
\_ It's not about who has the most weapons. It's about who
controls the information.
\_ I thought it was about relative penis size.
\_ I thought it was about money. -reiffin
\_ I thought it was about power.
\_ I thought Netscape should thank Intel since their making most of the
its profit from its browser running on x86 computers.
\_ Bzzzt. Netscape's profits are hardly from browsers -
they're losing money there - it's servers and
corporate intranets they're raking in the
bucks from.
\_ I think Netscape should thank Microsoft for being able to run
their browser on Windows OS.
\_ Microsoft should thank Netscape for keeping them from
having m Monopoly and getting crushed by the FTC.
\_ I think both Bill Gates and Larry Ellison are evil
incarnate and must be stopped. (maybe they're brothers) |
| 1997/2/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32080 Activity:nil |
2/25 (Very) Random Tip: If you want to get a bit more information about
what's up with your EECS instructional account (i.e. what's been
going wrong lately) each time you log in, add the following line at
the start of your .login:
/usr/sww/bin/lynx -dump http://www-inst.eecs/notices.html | /usr/ucb/tail +10 | /usr/ucb/head -10
-icrew |
| 1996/11/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/GradSchool, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32000 Activity:nil |
11/12 Okay, I'm a dork. Where're we supposed to download MSIE to get
MS to donate $1 to the tech museum? --tabloyd
\_ MS has a horrible web site for low bandwidth connections. I
wasted several hours trying to get it, and only eventually got a
version that wouldn't install. If anyone has IE 3.0 for 3.1,
could I please get a copy? (Didn't have these problems
w/Netscape...) -cathyg
\_ Funny, I managed to download Netscape 3.01 and have it
not do everything right. Guess their implementation of
the Java Virtual Machine just won't go with i386-unknown-bsd
architectures. -- tmonroe
\_ Oh, it's buggy, but at least it installed. -cathyg
\_ I put a copy in /tmp/msie301mnt.exe,mailnews.exe,amov4ie.exe
- Gabe
\_ uh, you guys don't get it...the idea is to make MS spend
dough, not to actually use their product
\_that's why I want the URL! -- tabloyd
\_ I looked at //microsoft.com, but unless you have a
t1 and a sophisticated browser, it's not worth
your time [maybe for 95, but not for 3.1] -cathyg |
| 1996/10/29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:31974 Activity:nil |
10/28 The San Francisco Book Festival's this weekend, if anyone's
interested... it's generally lots of fun -- interesting authors, poets,
book crafts, etc. More information's at http://www.sfbook.org
There's generally a nominal admission charge, unfortunately. --tabloyd
\_ youll pay hundreds for dorky computer equipment which will be worth
half its value in 6 months, but you complain about a "nominal"
admissions charge to a book festival... :)
\_You should hear me complain about computer equipment (which we
hardly ever buy anyway!). But I just thought people should be
aware that there is an admission fee -- you also have to pay to
buy any books, unlike at the ABA, where it's all free. --tabloyd
\_ fair enough! :) |
| 1996/10/29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31971 Activity:nil |
10/28 web maid needed for the School of Information Manangement & Systemss
(http://www.sims.berkeley.edu looking for someone with Netscape server
and extensive CGI development experience. the pay is ~$12/hour,
and you also share computer lab staff responsiblities in South Hall.
mail jwang if you're interested. |
| 1995/2/11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31756 Activity:nil |
2/10 Does any one know anything about VocalTec. Inc.'s software
that allows internet user to have two way voice communication? |
| 1994/4/15-7/22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31561 Activity:nil |
4/11 CSUA upcoming events/important dates in http://scotch/dates.html Use lynx or Mosaic to view. |
| 12/25 |