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12/12   In an interview last week I got hit with
        "What is your best quality?"
        "What is your worst quality?"
        I know these are standard interview questions, and I should have
        expected them, but I am pretty sure I flubbed them.
        What are some good responses?
        \_ just do the David Lee Roth style to answering questions:
           let me answer the question this way and then start
           talking about whatever the hell you want
        \_ Best: I never ask stupid fucking questions like this when
                 interviewing people.
           Worst: I hate people who ask stupid shit like this and I
                  would never work for idiots who do.
           \_ More seriously, if you can't come up with a best (or at
              least damn good) quality you shouldn't be interviewing.
              It is a question that gives you a chance to prove you
              actually give a damn about your work and skills.  The
              worst quality question is still a bullshit question and
              deserves all the feces you feel like flinging at it.
        \_ "I respond very poorly to stupid questions."
        \_ http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/11/12
        \_ http://csua.com/Computer/SW/Unix/?page=4
        \_ http://csua.com/2003/09/17/#10220
           (There are no good responses... but there are worse ones.
           At least they only asked you for ONE bad quality.)
           \_ Yeah, my last interview asked for 3.
        \_ I told them the truth, I have fairly poor time management skills.
           If I get wrapped up in one problem, I'll neglect the other things I
           have to do.  I got that job anyway.
        \_ The problem with questions like these aren't that they're dumb.
           They are not.  The problem is that the people asking them usually
           have no idea what a 'good' or 'bad' answer is.  They just ask
           because they were asked the same in the past.  I assume at some
           point in the distant past someone who knew what they were doing
           came up with the best/worst question and it spread like a plague
           from there.  As someone above said, there is no good answer, just
           don't say "my worst trait is <insert felony activity here>" and
           you'll be fine.
        \_ Worst trait: Sometimes I am too much of a perfectionist -or-
           sometimes I work too hard or some other such bullshit. No one
           expects a serious answer to such a question (or at least they
           should not). It is also okay to list an actual negative trait
           that you have that is not that big a deal "sometimes I get
           excited about an idea in meetings and interrupt other people."
           You better have some damn good answers to the "best trait"
           question though.
        \_ I once answered, honestly, that I don't react well to being
           micromanaged, but 1) I didn't really want the job, and 2) I wasn't
           offered the job. --erikred
           \_ But that is the right answer is the manager was a micromanager.
           \_ But that is the right answer if the manager was a micromanager.
              You wouldn't have been happy anyway.  Why would anyone try to
              get a job they wouldn't like?
              \_ In this case, because I was already in a job I didn't like.
                 Realization that the new gig was also what I didn't want hit
                 about midway through the interview.
                 until about midway through the interview.
                 \_ No matter how bad your current job is, don't flee it.  Go
                    to a new job you want to have.  Sounds like you made the
                    right call.
                    \_ Sounds like someone who never really had a job so
                       bad it was affecting your sleep, your health, and
                       other aspects of your life. Sometimes fleeing is
                       the best option.
                       \_ Oddly enough, you're both right. It was the latter
                          kind of job, but I needed the benefits and the
                          salary, and the other job would have been even
                          worse. Fortunately, something much, much better
                          came along two months later.
                       \_ sounds like to you, but incorrect.  the guy who
                          replaced me didn't last 3 months.  fleeing is not
                          a good option.  you just end up at another crappy
                          place.  and you'd miss out on the job you wanted
                          like the other person here posted.  i see zero value
                          in going from one shitty life sucking job to another
                          shitty life sucking job.
                          \_ Sounds like the guy who replaced you was
                             smart enough to flee.
                             \_ He already had another job the whole time.
                                This job was easy for his first three months
                                because I unloaded all the easy but time
                                consuming crap on him.  Once he had to do the
                                real work, it was easier for him to just pick
                                up more hours at his other job.  He didn't
                                flee to another job.  He had one all along.
                                \_ So he knew all along that your job
                                   sucked, but it took you much longer to
                                   figure it out.
                                   \_ No he had no idea until he had to do it.
                                      I kept it during that time because there
                                      were no other jobs available without
                                      taking a dramatic pay cut *and* working
                                      for an equally shitty place.  But I'm
                                      sure you had your choice of great jobs
                                      in the 2001-2004 years because you know
                                      everything.
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I've gotten that from two different guys at the same company before and it was kinda painful because they really, really pushed deep on that question. You're dealing with some doofus and every answer can be turned into the wrong answer. You can say something like, "well my girlfriend sometimes gets upset that I'm such a take-charge gung-ho kinda guy when we make plans but she always has fun!" All answers are stupid, just try to avoid giving an axe-murderer answer. If you had said that "take charge" answer they'd scoff and make you give a *real* weakness. One of them spent about half the interview on that question, and the rest questioning my "passion for engineering" and why I'm an engineer etc... The fact that they're asking these meta-questions might suggest that they're concerned with what your life goals and attitudes are, have you figured it out. It's just a job, but you spend half your life at work, so I can see why. So I told him I'm smart and have low tolerance for people who are intentionally stupid. Not stupid people, but people who play dumb for political or other reasons. I got an offer, but I don't think that had anything to do with it. I think he was just filling time and feeling self important. well, it actually taught me how to be better prepared for interviews. if yer just outta skewl, mention that you spent all yer time in the computer lab. What they are trying to get at is "What sort of stuff do you do poorly? Yeah saying something like "I goof off half the day and get everything done late" is stupid but a real answer like "when I'm working on a project with a bad debugging environment my productivity drops really bad" would, say let them know you might do better at being a server coding person that working with some proprierty scripting system that doesn't have real tools. They want people, not pretend workaholics who will leave in disgust six months later because they treated management as roadblocks to be worked around, and somehow, gee, that made work a nightmare. The consensus among those I've talked to is that the weakness question is the interviewer getting in an early stab at establishing pecking order. They, after all, will never have to answer such a ridiculous question of themselves from you. If you want the job, have your canned answer ready and don't be worried that it's not exactly honest. They're looking for you to subvert your ego for the "team". You may, however, want to consider whether this is the sort of situation where you'd like to work, if you have a choice in the matter. In the current times, nobody in my business really has much choice. Maybe we had the same one since I think there's only about 3 out there. But setting the user-agent value in addition to the referer one is a good idea. 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com - I'll be out of town this week and doing call backs next week based on the resumes I get. op \_ this guy never even has seen a job posting \_ I have. It annoys me when people say "C/C++" as if they're the same thing. They want someone with C/C++ as opposed to LISP or Fortran. You'd prefer you had 15+ years of C and no C++ and didn't get a call because they hired someone with no C and 2 years of C++? a more technical person probably wouldn't be caught dead saying 'c/c++', but i agree it's kind of silly to belabor this point. The candidate is supposed to be smart enough to be able to read a job posting without flipping out. Anyone bothered by a C/C++ listing so much is way too anal to work in most places. A job posting is just a vague wish list of 'stuff' they think might be nice for someone to know to some degree or another so candidates can self-disqualify. Stupid is when some marketing guy keeps applying to all of the perl and java jobs at my company. 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