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2005/6/3-4 [Computer/HW/Memory] UID:37957 Activity:low
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        ...Skipping all the mumbo jumbo about legality and what not,
        if it came from Proliant, I'd guess that they're registered
        DIMMs.  What kind of motherboards are you putting them into?
        Most consumer boards don't support registered memory.
        \_ This is probably the most useful reply I've ever gotten. The
           eBay site doesn't say anything about the RAM besides the fact
           it came from a Compaq Proliant Server. Now that I'm looking at
           the RAM, it says "256MB, Sync, 100Mhz, CL3, ECC." Does Sync mean
           "Registered RAM?" My Motherboard is an ASUS 5PA and accord to
           the manual it takes 256MB 100Mhz modules. For ECC it says
           "ECC or Parity Support, 66Mhz only," and I've set the jumper to
           66Mhz but still no luck. The manual says nothing about registered
           RAM. What do you think? Thanks,                      -pp
           \_ Actually, one of the "keys" (dimple in the middle of the
              connector pins) is different for buffered and unbuffered DIMMs.
              In that sense, it _shouldn't_ even fit correctly if the type is
              incorrect.
              \_ Not true. Plenty of memory that 'fits correctly' is
                 incorrect and will not work.
                 \_ Which doesn't address the specific case of whether buffered
                    vs unbuffered are physically different.
           \_ Just downloaded manual from ASUS and checked.  It says:
              This motherboard uses only Dual Inline Memory Modules (DIMMs).
              Sockets are available for 3.3Volt (power level) unbuffered
              Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory (SDRAM) of either 8,
              16, 32, 64, 128MB, or 256MB to form a memory size between 8MB
              and 768MB.
              Unbuffered == Non-registered.
              To tell if it's registered, see if there is any "register" chips
              on the DIMM.  You should see either 9 or 18 DRAM chips since
              it's got ECC.  If you see other chips that are not capacitors
              nearer to the contacts, you've got registered DIMMs.  If so, it
              probably won't work on that board.
              \_ I got 9 chips, and on the bottom are two smaller chips
                 which I assume are registers? Ok, so I bought the wrong
                 type. The eBay site doesn't say anything about ECC/Register,
                 so it's my fault then? Should I resell it or report to eBay
                 on ambiguous/misleading eBay?
                 \_ I don't see what you have to complain about.  I mean,
                    it sounds like this guy didn't know what he had, and
                    you didn't know what to ask.  Life lesson I guess.
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I purchased 2 RAM modules from eBay, and the listing says "These units were pulled from a Compaq Proliant Server being stripped for parts and are in excellent condition." When I got the RAM they have a strong burnt smell, and just as I feared, they don't work on ANY of my motherboards. Can I actually do something to remedy this, besides giving negative feedbacks? OOOO \_ Skipping all the mumbo jumbo about legality and what not, if it came from Proliant, I'd guess that they're registered DIMMs What kind of motherboards are you putting them into? The seller probably had no clue if they worked or not and didn't want to test them out. The seller is just covering his ass, he should refund you your money but he doesn't have to since it was "as is". a nice seller out to refund minus shipping maybe but ethical and legal obligations diverge ... Looking back, it's embedded in a very small print, "Seller's payment instructions Please see item description Item sold as is." i doubt you have any legal recourse that makes sense to pursue. ie is a bad review worth the money to the seller, how much time do you want to spend on this being an asspain etc. iirc, a statement that the ram is in "excellent condition" could be viewed as an affirmative representation of the quality. Even in used goods, this can give rise to a limited warranty. If OP had seen or should have seen the "as is" statement then the warranty would be waived, but if OP couldn't have seen or had no reason to see the "as is" statement, then the warranty may not be waived. Contracts wasn't my best subject so I could be a bit off here. I agree that it isn't worth bringing a case in small claims ct over this, but OP might have a valid claim. I can spend $30 on small claims+serve, plus $600 plane ticket. On the other hand, it may be just as worthwhile to create eBay accounts, win, then give him bad ratings. If you had asked him if the ram worked and he had said yes, you might be able to rescind the sale. Absent this, you can't really do much other than give him negative feedback and maybe annoy him by calling him up randomly and leaving irate messages on his voice mail. ie is a bad review worth the money to the seller, how much time do you want to spend on this being a pain in the ass etc. He will either leave a negative feedback on you, or negoriate to get you to withdraw your feedback in exchange for a partial refund.