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2/10 Recommendation for a 19" LCD display. Amazon has a good deal
on the Princeton. I'm also looking at Costco's Sharp 19" LCD.
If you own one or use one at work, can you tell us what you have
and how reliable is it? Thanks.
\_ Don't know who makes the ones for Dell, but have had only one
failure out of probably 3 dozen+ at work.
\_ I believe Samsung does.
\_ Make sure to get DVI. digital->analog->digital is bad.
\_ tawei!!! whats up. get NEC MultiSync 19xxX series.
\_ Jesus dumb fuck, this has been posted 100 times. Learn to STFK:
http://csua.com/?entry=35371
http://csua.com/?entry=32519
http://csua.com/?entry=32303
http://csua.com/?entry=10207
\_ Don't blow a head gasket, man -- it's not that big a deal.
Really.
\_ no dude, people have to learn. I'm so sick and tired of
deleting trolls and politics on motd, and things that
repeat over and over again. FUCK YOU.
\_ Then, uhm, don't bother. It's not like anyone cares
about you and your largely self-inflicted pain. And
take a vacation -- your histrionics are annoying.
\_ Hey! I'm your biggest fan! I'd like to give you an
award! Please post your name so we know who deserves
it. -jrleek
\_ Fuck both of you. Just the fact that there are real
live conservative censors out there getting annoyed
about it will make posting political trolls worth it
for at least another decade.
\_ This is getting confusing, who is the other
person in both of you, and are you pp? -jrleek
\_ The "fuck you" is directed at anyone who censors
anything in any context ever or who supports
censorship in any form. Yes, you have every
right to delete whatever politics you dislike
from the motd; it's a world writable file. And
I have the right to think you're an asshole for
it. I realize you're not one of the main censors
here, but you get a "fuck you" anyway for
thinking it's cool.
\_ Heh, you're a moron, but you're the
wrong one. You see, if the censor had
posted his name, we could squish him.
-jrleek |
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| csua.com/?entry=35371 If you read the comments on that monitor, 193P has better features and they rated it higher in the "subjective" analysis. I should say, "some say that" the 2001FP is better still because it's 1600x1200 and has all the groovy inputs. If you can afford $500, you can afford $622, believe me, the difference between $1600x1050 and 1280x1024 is big. It works better for DVDs and photos taken with digital SLR, you actually get more pixels than 1600x1200 but shrinked.... That will bring the overall price to $560 shipped with tax. The best price I can find online is the 30% off for small business, but with tax and shipping, which totals to about $620. But you have to call them, as the $35% off coupon is not listed anywhere. Product=3967280 zoom enlarge SAMSUNG 193P 19" LCD Monitor (analog & digital) A 19" LCD mo nitor that features both analog and digital inputs / 20ms Res ponse Time / 800:1 Contrast Ratio / 1280x1024 Native Res. click for details A 19" LCD monitor that features both analog and digital inputs / 20ms Res pons e Time / 800:1 Contrast Ratio / 1280x1024 Native Res. RepairMaster Optio nal Extended Service Warranty is available Product Specifications Monito r Type | LCD Flat Panel Screen Screen Size | 19 Contrast Ratio | 800:1 R esponse Time (Milliseconds) | 20 Wireless Capability | No Does monitor a llow VGA connectivity? See more Scanning and OCR To select accessories, check boxes. To order the accessories and the main product above, click Add to Cart . To order just the accessories alone, click Add Selected it ems to Cart. html Oleg Artamonov 10/26/2004 | 02:58 PM This guide is offering you a detaile d description of various LCD monitor parameters, which are essential for comparative analysis, as well as the measuring techniques used for each of them. Besides, since the majority of LCD monitor parameters are dete rmined by the type of the matrix the monitor is based on, we will also i ntroduce to you the major four types of contemporary matrices. I mea n a good CRT monitor is always good whatever youre doing with it (workin g with text, processing photographs, playing games and so on), whereas a n LCD monitor thats suitable for games wont suit for handling photos, an d one with an excellent color reproduction would be a bad choice for dyn amic games. cbid=15708&size=336x280&type=html&time=1384881066 Formally, latest LCD monitor models all seem to have technical parameters that al low using them in any area as the manufacturers claim viewing an gles of 160 degrees, a contrast ratio of 500:1, a true representation of all 16 millions of colors that you want to see, and the gap between the specs of different models is seemingly negligible well, can the average human eye, not equipped with measurement tools, tell the difference bet ween t he 160 viewing degrees of a good TN+Film matrix and the 170 degree s of a PVA, MVA or IPS matrix? However, theory and practice are more div erse in practice than they are in theory, and if you placed two monitors nex t to each other say, one with a TN+Film matrix and another with an I PS one you would easily see their parameters to be different visually, e ve n if youve never worked with LCD panels before. Im not driving to say th at the manufacturers deliberately overstate the c haracteristics of thei r devices, thus confusing the user (well, sometime s they do, but not to o often). I say that its a matter of perspective or what the manufacture rs mean by a specific parameter and how they measur e it. Speaking gener ally, any measurement of any value should start with a prec ise definiti on of the measurement method and conditions and the applicab ility limit s of the result. Without that, the measurement result makes n o sense an d has no practical worth. Regrettably, many reviewers and testers, follo wing the latest trend to ge t objective data rather than subjective impr essions, forget this simple rule and fall a prey to two common mistakes: they either erroneously reg ard the number theyve got (I say number, bu t not result because a number can only become a result after all the abo ve-said items are complied wi th) as a real parameter of the LCD monitor , which it is in fact not, or put much emphasis on parameters of seconda ry importance, which but sligh tly affect the investigated characteristi c (for example, color reproduct ion is a complex characteristic which ca nnot be described by a single pa rameter). The first mistake is often co mmitted when some side factors, s pecific for the particular measurement method, come to the fore, obscuri ng the measured value. The second mis take is often the result of the equ ipment being not capable of measurin g the significant parameters right, so the reviewer has to base his/her suppositions on the insignificant pa rameters. An attempt to measure a m onitors contrast ratio with the help of a digital camera would be total ly wrong without accounting for the cameras matrixs own noise, the camer as gamma correction (which is performed when saving into any format, ex c ept RAW), the backlight noise and other related factors. An error of t he second type is an attempt to compare the speeds of two LCD monitors b y measuring their making black-to-white transitions. The result would be u seless, even if everything is measured with high precision and correc tly , just because it is the response time on gray-to-gray transitions t hats more important here, rather than the transition between the two lim itin g states. Thus, in order to compare LCD monitors by their specs or by numbers youve got through some tests, it is of paramount importance t o understand wha t these numbers mean as well as by which method and und er which conditio ns they were arrived at. This article is intended as a comprehensive description of the main param eters of LCD monitors as we ll as of the typical methods the manufacturer s use to measure them. The n, since the bulk of the LCD monitors properti es is determined by the m atrix it is based on, and since there are only four types of the matrix now employed (TN+Film, S-IPS, MVA and PVA), I a m going to describe the distinguishing features of each type of the matr ix. com We have what yo u are looking for in stock & ready to ship at a great pric e! Computers, Notebooks, Monitors, Digital Cameras, CPU's, Memory, Mothe rboards, Bar ebone kits, Networking, Video, & more at the best values. Image MASSter Hard Drive Duplicators ICS provides the most efficient solution for dupl icating hard drives on t he market today, designed to assist companies i n mass production, yearly upgrades, new installments, and service and re pair jobs. i=2289 To make up for that, we decided to look at seven 19" LCDs, just in time f or the ho liday season. Recall that 19" LCDs have roughly the same viewi ng area as 21" CRT monitors, a nd that 17" LCDs have about the same view ing area as 19" CRTs. Productio n costs of LCDs have dropped dramaticall y over the last 2 years, but CRT s still beat LCDs in the cost versus si ze debate in the mid-size arena. The 19" and 20" LCD categories slightly differ, however. Although the viewing area on a 19" LCD is roughly equi valent to the viewi ng area on a 21" CRT, LCDs use less power, use digit al signal, don't hav e linear convergence issues, weigh considerably les s, and put less strai n on your eyes in a well lit environment. The issu e of cost that used to deter people away from LCDs has also disappeared. Granted, you get what you pay for, and buying a low end 19" LCD or a 21 " CRT generally is not what we would recommend. Today, we ar e going to focus on LCDs that run anywhere from $400 and higher - which is generall y the price that you will pay if you wanted a quality CRT mon itor. With the exception of the NuTech L921G, all of our LCDs today were store bou ght. Most of our mod els today are within the $400 to $500 price range. We plan on looking at them subjectively and quantitatively measuring the performance of each monitor against our industry standard Dell 2001FP. A lmost all of our reviews over the last year have used the Dell 2001FP as a benchmark comparison. So, translating some of the performance that we s... |
| csua.com/?entry=32519 com/displays If you're willing to shell out $$$ for a video card, you can get a 30" LCD. very bright and it shows the correct colors for photos/print work. The current (Al) 20" display is even better than mine since it has a faster refresh rate, a USB 20 hub and a FireWire hub. The only downside to the 20" display is that the 1680x1050 native resolution isn't well supported by games. There was a good discussion on 19" LCDs several days ago. Basically there are some good 16ms models out, and there are 12ms 19" LCDs in the pipeline. For my money I would just get the Viewsonic 16ms 19" LCD at CompUSA with $100 mail-in rebate. supposedly it's the same as the samsung 191t on the inside. com/displays/ environment Feast your eyes on more than four million pixels in the first high-resolution 30-inch flat panel display designed for the personal co mputer. The Apple Cinema Display line features a gorgeous new anodized a luminum enclosure to complement the Power Mac G5 or PowerBook G4 and inc ludes PC-compatible 20-inch and 23-inch models. See the Forest and the T rees The 77% increase in screen real estate of the 30-inch Cinema HD Dis play gives you the space you need to visualize your entire creation yet provides the resolution necessary to edit in place. So you can lay out a two-page spread and edit text without squinting. Or work with a Photosh op document with room for more than 30 layers in a palette. Take in the whole timeline in Final Cut Pro HD, with audio controls. Display an unhe ard of 126 Logic mixer controls simultaneously. Or peer into four differ ent modes of a molecule visualization with subatomic detail. Add this co lossal advancement in innovation to your well-equipped Power Mac G5 for just $3299. line offers a natural format for arranging documents the way your brain processes them -- longer wide than high. That's why each dis play gives you the best view for your work. It just makes sense to be ab le to display a Web page and its code next to each other horizontally, o r long video timelines in wide format. And the 23-inch Cinema HD Display , at $1999, provides the exact resolution to display widescreen High Def inition material. Apple engineers find that 100 pixel per inch resolutio n is ideal for images, yet allows you to easily work with sophisticated type treatments or just plain email. DVI port Connect With Pure Digital DVI Give your PowerBook G4 a second display when you're not on the road. Now you can connect the 23-inch Apple Cinema HD Display or 20-inch Appl e Cinema Display directly to any PowerBook G4 with a DVI port. DVI conne ction also removes all barriers to using an Apple display with a PC. If your graphics card supports DVI with DDC technology for widescreen viewi ng, you should be able to use these two displays with a PC. USB + FireWi re ports Peripheral Devices On Your Desktop Each display includes a Fire Wire 400 hub and a USB 20 hub, each with two ports. So you can connect a printer or scanner, or a digital camera or camcorder. The FireWire port provides a convenient place to plug in an iSight camera for video chat, presented beautifully on your Apple display, or to connect your iPod do ck. You can also make best use of all the latest USB 20 devices, whether you're using your display with a Mac or PC. NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra D DL graphics card delivers, with the most advanced graphics engine availa ble for Mac This card includes dual link DVI connectors to deliver up to 2560 by 1600 resolution over each port. Even better, with two connector s, or Dual Dual Link (DDL), you can drive two 30-inch displays, for the ultimate creative canvas. This $599 card will be available as a built to order option and as a standalone kit in August 2004. calibration device s to create a custom ColorSync profile. This gives you the peace of mind that an Apple display will integrate perfectly into your color workflow , ensuring accurate color from capture to screen to print. |
| csua.com/?entry=32303 Is it unreasonable that I'm asking for a new monitor to replace my 5 year old one? The truth is, I just want one of the new LCD Monitors we got that are only for "people who need them". We replace monitors every 3 years and that's a bit wasteful. Why don't you just ask for a new monitor and stop being a chickenshit about it? the ghosting, non-uniform lighting, and fuzziness from the analog input gave me a headache. On the other hand, I'm using an NEC 16ms 17" LCD and it's great. I can almost sort of barely not really notice any difference. Even the good ones become impossible after a while, so one corner is always slightly blurry. Also, subpixel rendering (ClearType on winXP) works sooo much better on an LCD, that reading text is much easier on the eyes. Also, I have yet to see the case for anyone really *needing* one more than anyone else needs one. This actually came up on the motd recently, when some guy with a desk near a transformer asked about why his monitor was getting fucked up. In a lab with sensitive electronics, you need an LCD for the opposite reason: CRT's are noisy as hell, and annoying to filter out. it was made apparent to me that the "need" being bandied about was of the health sort. But if the company acknowledges LCD superiority then it seems to me they're obligated to give one to everybody who asks or risk some vision-related lawsuits. Most of the computer using world has an old CRT, much older than your LCD. Most of the real world has never touched a computer and wouldn't know the power switch from their asshole. You have an LCD because someone thought you were important. If you're really important you'll get a new one every year without asking. If you're still using an old one because they forgot you or worse yet they deny you a new one upon request, then you shouldn't have had one in the first place because you're a nobody. I sit around dreaming about replacing my incandescent lamp binary display with LED's. If you can't even get LEDs you're definitely not CRT quality material. |
| csua.com/?entry=10207 Are 18" displays worth the $100-$200 premium they're currently going for? Samsuck has decent panel, but supporting electronics is crap. Viewsonic's panel is not that great (VX800) and the electronics is also hit or miss. Viewsonic VE170 uses old technology panel, but otherwise, it's just fine. They don't seem to care about the "cheap is everything" consumer market. They're somewhat expensive than others, but you get what you pay for. Newegg has them cheaper than most others, but you pay tax in CA. The rest you'll have to compare the features vs price vs warrantee. Find out what the dead pixel replacement policy is and if you can live with 10 dead or semi dead pixels before it kicks in. One customer had two consecutive replacements fail on her (bad capacitor and a bad inverter). Quality is so-so (according to my eyes), not as vibrant as others I've seen. seem to have less problems, but I've seen failures on all brands at least once. LG-Phillips/Hitachi/Sharp are the ones I know in terms of LCD manufaturers. If they produce a good batch you get a good vibrant screen. If you get a crappy batch you tend to can live with 10 dead or semi dead pixels before it kicks in. |