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| 2004/4/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13185 Activity:nil |
4/14 Only out of curiosity, was the CSUA log book ever found? -John
\_ Yes. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:13186 Activity:nil |
4/14 In emacs, how to I turn off ~ backup file creation for files with
a certain .extension? |
| 2004/4/14 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:13187 Activity:nil |
4/13 Does anyone know a good brand for USB flash drives? The reviews on
Amazon seem to suggest that most of them are crap that get corrupted
after a few months. --dgies
\_ Lexar JumpDrive Pro is well-reviewed. Sandisk Cruzer Mini as
well (and smaller), except the silver coating scratches easily.
See Amazon. Sandisk even makes a 512 MB key that transfers at
13-15 megabytes/second, but that's like $200+. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:13188 Activity:very high |
4/14 Bush alters U.S. Israel policy in joint press conference with Sharon.
Bush praises Sharon's "historic and courageous" actions, and says the
U.S. does not support the Palestinian "right of return", and the U.S.
also supports the unilateral withdrawal of Israel behind its new wall.
Israelis and Palestinians would be separated in this disengagement.
Bush says he does not want the peace plan scrapped, but Palestinians
say it would be if Sharon followed through. Major newspapers say that
Bush "endorses" proposal in which Israel would unilaterally keep some
parts of the West Bank. (Sorry, this last sentence is getting revised
because the news sources are changing as well.)
\_ Sharon: unilateral withdrawal from most of occupied territories
which is exactly what the Palestinians say they wanted all along.
Right of return: no one ever mentions all the Jews displaced from
their homes in Arab countries. If Israel were to be flooded with
millions of returnees it would be the end of Israel. This is a
complete red herring and everyone involved knows this will never
be allowed to happen.
\_ Yes it is a red herring, but it has symbolic value to the
Palestinians, as it amounts to Israel admiting it shouldn't have
siezed the land. It might be a good compromise if Israel said
"Yes, you have a right of return, but only X-thousand per year,
and old people get priority. Oh, and only if you were born
there. No fiesty grandkids."
\_ Why should they do this? Are the Arabs letting Jews back in?
\_ In some countries, yes.
\_ Name them.
\_ then they kill them more easily
\_ A big issue is that the right of return has been considered
for decades as a point of negotiation, and in this sense, is
definitely not a "red herring". Bush just said, "No more
negotiating. Things have changed. Why can we do it?
'cause we can. Now, is anyone going to do anything about it?"
\_ Welcome to the way the world *really* works. Might really
does make right and there's no negotiating with terrorists.
\_ If you really believe that might makes right, then
why do you even use the word "terrorist?" Are you just
trying to score political points?
\_ Well, Republicans would say that Bush is demonstrating
leadership. Democrats would say Bush is being a dumbass.
leadership. Democrats would Bush is being a dumbass.
I suppose the truth lies in between.
The wall: if Indians or Mexicans were blowing shit up all over
California and Texas, you bet your ass there'd be a wall built
with 100% support in all 3 branches of government and every
opinion poll.
\_ yeah, except Mexico is a country, Palestine is not.
\_ Palestine is an invaded land taken over by evil Jews with the
help of imperialist rich white westerners for the purpose of
humiliating the justly proud Palestinian peoples! Huzzah!
\_ Bad troll, no cookie, see below.
\_ Pathetic attempt to avoid debating the subject.
\_ Why would it be "the end of Israel"? Couldn't Israel become
a multi-ethnic secular democracy, like the rest of the
civilized world?
Israel: evil sinful place that must be destroyed and replaced with
oppressive anti-democratic gun toting jack boot thugs to make the
world a better place. Any world with fewer Jews is a better world.
(That's your cookie, enjoy it).
\_ There is already a wall built to keep Mexicans out. I guess
Canadians are ok, though.
\_ There isn't a wall. You been to the border? It goes on and
on for hundreds of miles with no wall, no patrols, no nothing.
Maybe it depends on what your meaning of "wall" is. Is. eh?
\_ Have you been to San Diego? There is a wall that runs for
many miles. The wall isnt' 3000 miles long (yet) but it
certainly exists.
\_ If Mexico had invaded the United States and the US had beaten
them back and siezed the northernmost Mexican States, and then
the Mexicans living in those states had demanded return of the
land to Mexico, and the US had not only refused but had built
a wall solidifying its control of the best parts of all of the
land while the Mexicans living in those states had started
blowing shit up in California and Texas, then you might have
a reasonable analogy, but only tenuously.
\_ Hey history genius, where the hell do you think CA/TX came
from? The US invaded Mexico and *took* them and the Mexicans
are still pissed off about it and some even talk about a right
of return everytime immigration reform comes up. When you
read a 3rd grade history book you can come back and talk with
the grownups about grownups things. Jesus Christ, I don't
even know how to get across how deeply ignorant and stupid
your statements are. READ A BOOK, DAMN IT!
\_ If you read the book then you'd know that:
A) Texas seceded on its own from Mexico, then asked
for Union membership.
\_ Don't get your history from watching "The Alamo".
The europeans settled on Mexican territory, and
for Union membership.
then stole it. End of story.
B) Similar thing happend with California (ergo Bear
Republic).
C) Latinos were complicit in both events and supported
the secession.
\_ And they were right to do it. Compare Mexico
to America. Which political system would YOU
have wanted to live under for the last 100
years?
D) The U.S. actually paid Mexico after the U.S./Mexican
war for the land.
E) We purchased another chunk of Mexico for the
railroad during the Gadsen Purchase.
Perhaps you should dig yourself up a copy of
Nivens and Commager and actually read up on
factual 19th century US history.
--williamc
\_ See, here's the part I enjoy: you didn't read my post, or
you'd've seen where I said "If Mexico had invaded the
United States." For a literate monkey, you're still
pretty illiterate.
\_ Uhm, actually he did. You're still an idiot (and
woefully ignorant to boot). You REALLY need to read
that 3rd grade history text, chum.
\_ Oh, gawd, now I'm in a "yes-he-did, no-he-didn't"
argument with two morons. The US invaded Mexico,
yes, I knew that. To make the analogy work, though,
you have to have Mexico (i.e., the Arab nations)
invade the US (i.e., Israel). THEN the ass-kicking
occurs, and THEN the landgrab occurs (rightfully
so, IMO). The US-Mexico situation lacks the Mexico
as instigator component that makes Israel look
down-right commendable.
\_ See, the original proclamation of a Jewish state
was unjust. Imagine if a bunch of Mexicans come
and proclaim a new "American state" based on the
historical Indian presence (even if historically
it was small and over 1000 years ago, and a part
of larger empires normally). Oh and the new state
grants secondary status to people not of this
group. There's no justification for a "Jewish
state" as such, theocracy is a cultural issue and
needs to stay that way. History shows what an
absolute tragedy it is when theocracy gets into
government. (c.f. collapse of greco-roman
civilization, Muslim stagnation, European dark
ages, south american human sacrifice etc.).
\_ By that logic, there are no just
states today. US is certainly not, they
seceded in armed conflict. Most
countries are a very recent development, and
if not, their borders certainly were created
as a result of injust historical processes:
armed conflict, dynastic inheritance, colonial
aggression, etc. Show me one just state.
-- ilyas
\_ Some of the Greek city-states formed
voluntary alliances. There's also a
distinction between armed secession and
armed conquest. Having said that, the
problem with Israel wasn't the state per se,
as some kind of state was being implemented
anyway, but the forced expulsions of the
existing occupants and subsequent problems.
This is not a staple feature of most other
countries, even if there are obviously
many examples.
\_ 'Staple feature'? What does that
even mean? The character of
many modern countries was _defined_
by the mass expulsions they performed,
the example which is closest is
obviously the Spanish Reconquista, where
essentially all the muslim population of
Spain was either converted at the point
of the sword or driven off into Africa.
Then there is the US and native Americans,
the expulsion of Jews from Germany (Germany
is still trying to get a sizeable Jewish
population), etc, etc, etc. Why are
you singling out Israel? Clarification
of original question: show me one just
state existing today. -- ilyas
Most of Europe was converted at point of the sword. _/
They were a bunch of pagans. That doesn't make it right.
Israel can easily be "singled out" because it's happening
in our time, in an age when we are well informed and have
and have international structures to try to prevent such
things. Germany wasn't created by the expulsion of Jews,
and besides, everyone agrees that the Nazi nation wasn't
just. It wasn't just German Jews they picked on either
I already stated there are many other examples (Turkey
is a big one IMO). But we seem to concern ourselves
with other such things like Kuwait or Serbia (or how
with other such things like Kuwait or Serbia (or how
about that Nazi Germany) so why are you singling out
Israel for exemption from criticism?
about that Nazi Germany) so why are you singling out
Israel for exemption from criticism? Oh and the Moors
conquered Spain first. And Germany was formed from the
union of Germanic kingdoms (yeah, those tribes probably
pushed some celts out or something, just like various
slavs pushed out germanics)
\_ Not at all. I don't claim Israel should be exempt
from criticism, but using the 'injust state' as
a rationalization for any sort of action will simply
not work. All modern states are 'injust.' The same
argument applies with equal force to them. I suggest
starting in alphabetical order instead of with the
letter 'i'. Also, Israel is a democratic state,
civilization, Muslim stagnation, European dark
ages, south american human sacrifice etc.).
of original question: show me one just
state existing today. -- ilyas
not work. All modern states are 'injust.' The same
argument applies with equal force to them. I suggest
starting in alphabetical order instead of with the
letter 'i'. -- ilyas
despite its injust roots, just as the US and Britain
are. We are not recommending returning large parts
of the US back to the native americans, or large
parts of Britain back to the Celts. Why is Israel
different? -- ilyas
\_ Israel's still occupying extra territories. Anyway
the point of the "not just" comment was in response
to some guy justifying Israel's land grabs. I never
said the main part of Israel should be given back.
\_ Then it seems you and the Palestinian Authority
are at odds. Look at their flag (or seal).
Note the all-of-israel-shaped silhouette with
Palestinian colors. They explicitly want it all.
-- ilyas
The US still occupies Native American land.
Surely you don't imply that just because the
landgrab happened some time ago, and there are
less indians left that it's suddenly ok for US
to keep the land, but not ok for Israel? You
can't pick and choose. -- ilyas
\_ Last desperate act of a man who knows he is going down. He will
pull a Johnson any minute now.
\_ Ok, i'll bite. What exactly does "pull a Johnson" mean?
\_ Pull the other one, mate, 's got bells on it.
\_ Uhhuhuhu huhhuu huhuuh. He said "pull my Johnson." Huh huh.
\_ "With America's sons in the fields far away, with America's
future under challenge right here at home, with our hopes
and the world's hopes for peace in the balance every day,
I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of
my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties
other than the awesome duties of this office - the
round, maybe kill a few people, and then run away.
of interests.)
so don't care if they can be long gone.
Presidency of your country.
Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept,
round, kill a bunch of innocent Israelis, and then run away.
the nomination of my party for another term as your
President."
Of course, that was a real President, not a phoney pretender.
\_ Johnson? As in LBJ? I take it your definition of a "
real President" is a disgusting liar who screwed this
country 60 ways from Sunday. Quite frankly, I'd take
Bush over LBJ anyday. Heck, I'd take Gore, Nixion,
and most lower life forms. (Excluding viri and
bacteria dangerous to Human health. We have a conflict
of interests.)
\_ "viri" isn't a word.
\_ "viruses" is the plural "virus," and "viri"
is an abbreviation from latin slang meaning
"i'm a pompous ass computer geek."
\_ Israel belongs to the Jews. Read Genesis 17.
\_ The reason the "peace process" will end is the leverage the
Palestinians had (blowing up Israelis) will be gone.
\_ Why aren't the Palestinians using mortars? Just lob a few and
run away. By the time they land and the IDF finds out where you
launched from, you can be long gone.
\_ a) they don't have them b) if they did, they'd get caught
running around with them c) even if no one got caught, IDF
exacts punishment on entire area d) they're suicidal anyway
so don't care if they can be long gone.
\_ the idea is that you're much bigger to have killed yourself
and others in a "spectacular" attack, rather than lob a
round, maybe kill a few people, and then run away. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:13189 Activity:nil |
4/14 Has anyone read Confusion yet? any comments? Basically more of the
same?
\_ Yes. . Read it and find out.
\_ it's very confusing
\_ You have acquired a scroll entitled 'irk gleknow mizk'(n).--More--
This is an IBM Manual scroll.--More--
You are permanently confused. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:13190 Activity:low |
4/14 Not that there are any undergrads left in the CSUA, but particularly
for them: Several upcoming puzzle-fest-road-rally-scavenger-hunt "Game"
events in the next few months. This is spurred by the request of
the people running the Genome Game http://www.genodix.com (Jul 10-11)
indicating they'd like more undergrad participation. Since the Game
started at Stanford it's mostly Stanford folks who play; I'd like to
see some more Bears on the road. Non-undergrads welcome too. It's tons
of fun. Other upcoming events:
- BANG 6 (Apr 18) http://www.bloodandbones.com/thegame/bang6.html
- Shinteki (May 8, 15, or 22) http://shinteki.com
- Justice Unlimited (Jul 31-Aug 1) http://www.snout.org/Game
About the Game: http://www.gamecontrol.com, lots of good links at
http://www.snout.org/Game. Questions? Lemme know. -jowens
\_ Actually, the CSUA is doing quite well among undergrads these
days. Excellent leadership and enthusiasm have contributed to
something of a renaissance over the last few sememsters. None
of them read the motd though. (It's not displayed
automatically on startup for new members anymore. :( )
\_ why nopt?
\_ because paolo was whipped
\_ Who knew? Cool. How might I publicize this among undergrads?
\_ send it to csua@csua or office-hosers. You could also
just send it to the Librarian and have him post it on
the web page calender or something.
\_ Considering the extremely questionable nature of some of the
stuff that gets posted here, its probably best that the first
thing a new member is confronted with when they login is NOT
the motd.public.
\_ Are you saying they can't deal with open debate and a little
ranting? They're adults. They'll deal. They don't need you
or anyone else to nanny them.
\_ They may all be adults, but the content on the motd is
not.
\_ So what? They don't have to read it but they should
not be nannied into not having the opportunity to read
and participate.
\_ I know that the motd is pretty questionable, but not
exposing new members to it basically means the motd will
slowly die as us allums get lives. Which, may be just
fine. But things are already smelling kinda stagnant
around here.
\_ hey, some of us ugrads do read the motd; several are friends
of mine. - erikk |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13191 Activity:nil |
4/14 amazing. simply amazing.
http://csua.com
(thanks psb via james) - rory
\_ What the... He goes through and stores and indexs the motd
everyday?
\_ no it's fully automatic
\_ All the more so since I thought that kchang's account was sorried
ages ago, though I don't really follow these things. -- ulysses
\_ Well, I can't find a kchang though finger, so he must be
gone. The motd is available on the web though, right?
But the real question is, why does he care? WHY? -jrleek
\_ Why do we care?
\_ I have a facination with the bizzare.
\_ because the motd is actually a huge wealth of knowledge
on unix, c++, etc interspersed with obnoxious uselss
(though entertaining) ranting, and a categorized and
well-done archive actually makes all the information
accessible and useful. - rory
\_ grep kchang /etc/passwd
kchang:*:8710:100:Kevin Chang,none,none,
none:/home/apollo/kchang:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
\_ Why was he sorried?
http://csua.com/?entry=10961
http://csua.com/?q=kchang+sorried
\_ it's lame if he were really tricked.
\_ insulting him on the MOTD isn't "tricking him into
writing a motd deletion script."
\_ fag is 'hate speech' not insult.
\_ Automatically adding stuff should be squishable
too. Was that guy found and sorried as well?
\_ I wasn't here, but i'd bet not. It seems like a
bunch of crap that he was sorried, and i'm glad
to see he's back, especially since this motd
thing is cool. -phuqm
\_ oh my, this is IRONIC!!! checking out why he got squished
on his own very creation. it's killing Mr. Winchester
with his own gun.
\_ should he be squished again?
from http://csua.com/?entry=faq1
Couldn't I break the system by totally messing up the motd entries?
\_ You sure could. Please do try, preferably using a motd mudging
script, croned, forked bombed, that uses a lot of cpu time.
\_ search, auto categorized, and prefetched/cached contents. it's
a csua-killer app. there was a time when I thought he was an
idiot, but now i think he is a really cool idiot. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Transportation/Car] UID:13192 Activity:nil |
4/14 Re: Progressive - I've had them for couple of years, and they aren't
too bad to have as your insurance carrier. But I have to constantly
ask them to lower my rate. They've yet to do it voluntarily(which
State Farms used to do.) But if you haven't checked out yet, check
out American Express for auto insurance. They have better rates
than Progressive, but they won't insure you if you have more than so
many violation points on your record. |
| 2004/4/14 [Uncategorized] UID:13193 Activity:nil |
4/14 Nuked AGAIN? What the heck is that? A protest against the rules?
At least terrorists take credit! |
| 2004/4/14 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:13194 Activity:insanely high |
4/14 MOTD Thread Life Rules (Amended):
Let's set some rules on what gets to stay and what gets deleted.
1. Hours from 12 midnight - 8 a.m PST do not count as time passed
2. All threads get to stay for 8 hours at minimum
3. Threads with no new information added for 4 hours can get deleted
4. Rule 3 does not apply to threads degenerated into mutual name
calling, but Rule 2 still applies
5. Threads over 100 lines can be deleted after 12 hours overriding
Rule 3.
6. Informational threads like job openings or CS related questions
get to stay longer.
7. freerepublic links are all immediately deleted
8. Threads in which the OP is refuted will mysteriously disappear.
Comments welcomed
\_ Usually, the entire thread does not degenerate, it just gets
vitriolic and useless branches. The suggestion is to prune
those. Yes, it's not quite algorithmic, and requires some
judgement, but such is life. Sometimes the rest of the thread
is worth keeping for a while longer. -- ilyas
\_ Judgement? We already have that algorithm. It is called bulk
censorship. It doesn't work.
\_ All I am saying is that if there is an (overall useful)
thread, with a useless and/or vitriolic branch, you just
delete the branch. It's easier for 'censor/janitor/Victor-
the-cleaner', too. Of course, this entire conversation is
useless, since no one will really follow any of these, and
we will go on as before. -- ilyas
\_ how do i get the secret motd point?
\_ There is no secret motd point. Stop asking about it in public.
\_ Citizen, such questions endanger Alpha Complex and could
indicate treason and possible infiltration by commie mutant
traitors. Are you a commie mutant traitor?
\_ NERD!
\_ is a commie mutant traitor one of the following?
a) someone betrays a commie mutant organization;
b) a mutant betrays commie;
c) a commie mutant that betrays a non-commie organization
\_ Only commie mutant traitors would pretend not to know
what a commie mutant traitor was. Please fill out
this 10-4-Y-6 in triplicate and submit it at your nearest
termination booth. Have a happy day citizen.
\_ Off to the food vats with you, vermin!
\_ Maybe it's time for a game of motd nomic?
\_ I thought we were playing nomic. Why else would people continue
to play the Hitler card?
\_ RACIST!
\_ RACIST!
\_ Gnomes of Zurich!
\_ Gnomes? Zurich?! RACIST!
\_ Boysprouts! |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Computer/SW] UID:13195 Activity:nil |
4/14 Do the order of records in /etc/passwd correspond to the order accounts
were added? This would make sense given that lwall is the first user
account listed.
\- you used to be able to go by uid number until the moron/fascist
revolution --psb
revolutio --psb
\_ So that makes psb the 37th extant user account added? And I'm
afraid I don't know what the moron/fascist revolution was. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:13196 Activity:nil 61%like:13197 |
4/14 What media bias? (different article, different topic, same theme)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38026 |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/HateGroups] UID:13197 Activity:nil 61%like:13196 |
4/14 What media bias?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38027
\_ I can't believe he's not going for the double-brass-ring and
calling for both Byrd and Dodd to resign.
\_ If a Republican praised an ex-KKK Republican member of the
Senate, we would not hear the end of it. But the liberal
media will pass on this story.
\_ Damn that liberal media! -- ulysses
\_ Yes, actually damn them. They have already destroyed all
credibility the media once had with the American people.
\_ Why isn't the liberal media all over the story of a FORMER KKK
MEMBER BEING IN THE US SENATE? Don't you think that's maybe
a slightly more egregious offense than generic praise of someone
who used to be in the KKK? It's not comparable to the Lott
comments--Lott's comments were specifically about how racist
policies might have been better. -tom
\_ I am a liberal, and I really don't like Lott. However, I
don't think that was the intent of his comments at all, and
I believe he was unfairly attacked for it. The republicans
decided to crucify him to make their party as a whole
appear to be something other than it is: a haven for racists
in general, and for poor whites in the south who vote against
their economic interests in particular.
\_ You fergot our guns! Yep yep yep yep yep! "We're gonna get
those Duke boys this time! Aren't we Flash!!??"
\_ Yawn, Republicans = evil. Democrats = good. See? That's
so much shorter to type and it's all you had to say.
\_ You mean ol' Strom? His views evolved over many years and
he publicaly renounced racism. Lott implied recently that
he supported segragation.
\_ According to the article, Byrd the ex-KKK member had to
apologize for using the "n-word" in a Tony Snow interview.
I'm not saying there are no racist Republicans. I am saying
this public praise for a former KKK member by a Democrat
will not be endlessly paraded as an example of Democratic
racism, the way it would be if the praise for a former
KKK member came from a Republican.
\_ you think every time Strom Thurmond was praised that
it was "endlessly paraded as an example of Republican
racism"? Be serious. -tom
\_ Do a google on "racist strom"
\_ I see nothing other than references to Lott. I
suppose it's possible that no one else praised
Strom in the 50+ years he was in the senate. -tom
\_ Lott's mistake was claiming Strom should have
become president when he ran, as a
segregationalist. This Dem. says this other
senator should have been a leader when he was
a segregationalist. (And a pro-slaver)
That's why this is the same mistake as Lott's. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Reference/Tax] UID:13198 Activity:nil |
4/14 Has anyone not done their taxes yet?
\_ I'm doing them tonnight and I have a question 'cause my W-2 isn't
in front of me. On the CA form 540 where it says "Total wages (W-2
box 16)" is that gross wages, or wages after witholding? Where it
says "Total tax withheld (W-2 box 17)" is that all witholdings, or
just the state witholding?
I don't need a tax expert, just someone with their W-2 at hand.
\_ gross wages before withholding; just state withholding.
\_ Thank you.
\_ I did mine last night. I use TurboTax, and they annually have
clogged up servers for online filing on the last night.
\_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!!! Tax Editor.
\_ ED! ED is the STANDARD UNFUNNY JOKE!
\_ I started learning/using ed recently. It's actually a very
enlightening process. --darin
\_ A good friend uses only ed. It works for her and apparently
she's too lazy to learn anything else.
\_ If she was serious she'd use sed and cat. ed users are
weak. SED!
\_ Taxes? Didn't I just do those last year?
\_ Bear tax? Let the bears pay the bear tax. I pay the Homer tax! |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:13199 Activity:nil |
4/14 What are the industry trends towards Java jobs? What about
C/C++ jobs?
\_ India |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Domestic] UID:13200 Activity:moderate |
4/14 So much for any attempt at legitimacy:
http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/resNews.htm
\_ Classy joint. (A clarification, I am just noting how they are
discussing their legal matters, vs. how, say, Limbaugh is discussing
his. I don't listen to Franken's show, so I can't comment on the
content.) -- ilyas
\_ What's wrong with Limbaugh's discussion of his legal matters?
\_ Classy joint. -- ilyas
\_ Nothing. -- ilyas
\_ I don't know which is worse: naming a company Multicultural
Broadcasting, or all the Liu jokes.
\_ They are discussing this right now on the air.
\_ Hehe. I love seeing all the wingers complain about the "incivility"
of Air America after over a decade of Limbaugh-tomy. Franken's show
is a church meeting compared to a lot of the right wing radio out
there...Randi Rhodes kinda sucks though.
\_ I find it annoying that Franken claims to have invented liberal
talk radio. there's plenty of good liberal talk radio out there,
you just have to hunt around for it.
\_ Rush is funny. What is "incivil" about Rush other than your
philosophical disagreement? Does anyone who disagree with your
you just have to hunt around for it.
beliefs automatically count as a barbarian?
\_ I don't listen to Rush. -op |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:13201 Activity:high |
4/14 "[I will] never submit to fight beneath that banner
[the American flag] with a Negro by my side. Rather would
I die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in
the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved
land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback
to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
1947 letter by Robert Byrd.
\_(D)
\_ Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner and a fracophile.
\_ Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner and a francophile.
\_ Is that anything like a Francophile, 'cause them are fightin'
words. Also, T.J. who lived way before 1947, may have had
slaves, but he never said anything as reprehensible as that.
nor anything even close. nor, i suspect, did he ever feel
anything like it.
\_ Those were the real French during their glory days. After WWI
and WWII all the best genes in the pool were killed off and
now only the scum remains to keep breeding and leeching off the
few French who actually work and produce anything. This is all
just noise anyway since in about 2 generations there will be
more Arabs in France than pussified French and then it'll all
be over for them for all time as a people, a culture and a
country. Look back in time upon France from before WWI to see
a real country full of admirable people. You can just fuck the
useless worthless whiners that remain.
\_ How about we kill you instead? That would make me feel a
whole lot better.
\_ Who gives a flying fuck how *you* feel? No, you can't.
You're a worthless valueless piece of shit.
\_ I'd say something, but I think John said it so much
better just below.
\_ Thank you. Same goes for Italy. :) -John
\_ Is that an insult or a suggestion <img src=French hottie>?
\_ To whom? I admire the old French. The modern post WW2
\_ You're an idiot, and I doubt you'd ever be let
out of the special school for long enough to
French are pansies and doomed.
\_ You're just a second rate troll and an idiot, but
short-pantsed overweight American tourists with
too many people think like you. I doubt you'd
be let out of the special school for long enough to
actually get near a stack of French toast. I bet
you're the sort of annoying nasal whiny pigfucker
short-pantsed overweight American tourist with
his annoying nasal whiny pigfucker short-pantsed
chubby-kneed fanny-packed wife and pimply spoiled
brat kids who ruin my nice civilized weekends in
France. Geeze Louise, stay home and shut up. -John
\_ wow.
\_ Meanwhile the US was busy using it's status as the only major
industrial nation to survive WWII intact to keep the white
man in power and then repeating the same foolish French
imperial dreams in Vietnam on a bigger scale.
\_ Wow, confused race politics and a complete
misunderstanding of every element of the Vietnam war,
all in one convinent package! Only $19.95!
\_ No! It's FREE! (Click this REMOVE link to be taken
off our opt-in list)
\_ The Vietnamese certainly saw the American War as
a war of national liberation. It is only a few
dumbass 'Mericans who bought the domino theory,
hold the line against communism crapola. The same
fools that buy the "Operation Iraqi Liberation is a
critical piece in The War Against Terror" I guess.
\_ This guy has been desperately trolling "the old french
who got themselves all killed are real men worthy of
worship" has finally succeeded in soliciting some
response.
\_ Congrats, you just squished two people's changes.
Please use motdedit or aquire a lock before making
changes.
\_ I never force-write. So try again. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics] UID:13202 Activity:moderate |
4/14 Capt. Yee's reprimand overturned.
\_ Good news. Teach those bastards a lesson.
\_ "While I believe that Chaplain Yee's misconduct was wrong, I do
not believe, given the extreme notoriety of his case in the news
media, that further stigmatizing Chaplain Yee would serve a just
and fair purpose," Hill said, describing his decision as "one of
mercy, not necessarily law."
\_ The "misconduct" is the unwarranted 76-day detention of Yee,
much of it in solitary confinement. Add to that the mutual
face saving and ass covering by the army people involved, at
Yee's expense.
\_ URL that shows the 76 days was against military code?
\_ They may not have violated the letter of the law, but they
violated its spirit.
\_ spirit? yeah whatever. nice try, troll.
\_ Wait: You think he was treated fairly and without
discrimination or prejudice? And I'm the troll?
\_ Never attribute stupidity to troll.
\_ i'd rather have solitary confinement then get raped by
other inmates
\_ Haven't you ever seen a prison movie? After a couple of
months in the Hole, you'll be begging for human contact,
even if it means rape.
\_ Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison? |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:13203 Activity:nil |
4/14 Any recommendations for a mouse that makes silent "clicks"?
\_ you want one with a mushy spring? for what?
\_ No, I don't want a mushy spring. It's for a house-mate of
mine who plays solitare. It is now like chinese water
torture. We are looking for a mouse with the same action as a
normal mouse but without the annoying kul-ick.
\_ Three words: "deck of cards." Why anyone uses a computer to
play this game is beyond me.
\_ use a trackpad, tap, tap, tap.
\_ Maybe he/she should stop playing solitaire and get a life.
\_ Have you tried just taking some cheap mouse apart and trying to
get rid of whatever makes the click?
\_ it's the switches under the buttons. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:13204 Activity:nil |
4/14 For every American hero killed, we should dispose of 100 Iraqi
terrorists.
\_ you mean dispose 100% terrorist before an American is killed
\_ I mean this will teach those Iraqi terrorists a good lesson.
\_ Especially those who were pro-American before an errant
bomb decimated their village.
\_ Name an Iraqi village that got decimated by an errant bomb.
\_ Bombs are smart but people are stupid, at least the
terrorists are. They just don't want to be liberated. |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13205 Activity:high |
4/14 A hospital official in Fallujah claims many of the 600 victims who've
died in the weeklong U.S. Marine crackdown in Fallujah were women,
children and the elderly. But Marine Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne said an
investigation of the dead will likely discover "95 percent of those
were military age males." -April 11
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/2993428/detail.html
Just before dawn Wednesday, however, AC-130 Spectre gunships launched
a devastating punitive raid over a six-block area around where the
convoy was attacked, firing dozens of artillery shells that shook the
city and lit up the sky. Marine officials said the area was virtually
destroyed and that no further insurgent activity had been seen there.
-April 14
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12526-2004Apr14.html
\_ Why are women and the elderly exempt? Kids, too, if they are
gonna shoot (e.g. during the Iran-Iraq conflicts).
\_ Basically Al Jazeera shows injured/dead babies on TV because
they think the U.S. can offer no defense. The idea is similar
with women, children, and old people.
Just before dawn Wednesday, however, AC-130 Spectre gunships launched
a devastating punitive raid over a six-block area around where the
convoy was attacked, firing dozens of artillery shells that shook the
city and lit up the sky. Marine officials said the area was virtually
destroyed and that no further insurgent activity had been seen there.
-April 14
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12526-2004Apr14.html |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:13206 Activity:nil |
4/14 Minister Franco Frattini told Italian state television that the
nation's ambassador to Qatar viewed a portion of the videotaped
execution and confirmed that the slain hostage was Fabrizio
Quattrocchi, who was working in Iraq as a private security guard.
... Al-Jazeera said it did not broadcast the tape because it was too
graphic. ... In a statement delivered with the tape, the
hostage-takers blamed Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi for
Quattrocchi's slaying ... and went on to say that the hostage-takers
will kill one hostage at a time until all their demands are met. -CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/14/iraq.hostages.int/index.html
\_ Yes, it is Berlusconi's fault that this guy chose to go to Iraq as
a private citizen working for a private company in a private
capacity as a security guard for a private target. The bastard! |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13207 Activity:kinda low |
4/14 Why We Will Never Abandon Iraq
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12981
\_ This article has more guts in it's pinky finger than most
do in their intestines.
\_ The title should read, "No Matter How Much Bush Fucked It Up,
We Have To Stay"
\_ No, it should say "No Matter How Much Clinton Fucked It Up,
America will do the Right Thing."
\_ I think you're talking about Al Qaeda, not Iraq, and even
that's a subject of great argument |
| 2004/4/14-15 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13208 Activity:nil |
4/14 Is there a way to set the window frame color of non-highlighted
windows in fvwm2 without using FvwmTheme? I can only find a color
setting for "Hilighted" (focused) windows:
Style "*" HilightBack #777700
Style "*" HilightFore #cccccc |
| 2004/4/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:29925 Activity:nil |
4/13 http://csua.com \_ DUDE! |
| 2004/4/14 [Uncategorized] UID:29926 Activity:nil |
4/13 [ no, let's delete old technical stuff too, you asswipe. ]
\_ restored. |
| 2004/4/14 [Transportation/Car] UID:29927 Activity:nil |
4/14 Buying a car and thinking about using Progressive for insurance...
Anybody have and positive/negative feedback about them? Thanks.
\_ I use progressive for my motorcycle and for my car before it
got stolen. The rates were ok and they were always friendly.
Never had to make a real claim though. (I only had liability
on the car.) |
| 2004/4/14 [Industry/Jobs] UID:29928 Activity:nil |
4/14 Let's set some rules on what gets to stay and what gets deleted.
I say each thread gets to stay for 8 hours after it stops
becoming active (no new information added). Hours at night
12 midnight - 8 a.m doesn't count as time passed. Informational
threads like job openings get to stay longer.
\_ That relies on people playing nice. There's a hierarchy of
lamers who don't: first, the motd censors. Lame.
Lamer: people who retaliate against everyone else for the
actions of the ceensors. Very lame, and akin to terrorism.
\_ Perhaps 8hrs is a little long. The motd can get pretty big
pretty quickly. Aside from that, I would think guidelines
would be a good idea. |
| 2004/4/14 [Uncategorized] UID:29929 Activity:nil |
4/14 Woohoo! First poster after another Nuke Fest! Does that make
me Mad Max? |
| 5/27 |