6/3	The motd has gone downhill since the urinal thread.  Can we all try
	harder to make it fun again?  Thanks.
	\_ Who said the motd is about fun?     -SAMC
	   \_ Why do you think I kept this account 10 years after I graduated?
	      motd is funny.  Used to be funnier.
	      \_ I kept mine for the free disk space.
	\_ the motd was more fun when kchang and lila participated.
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	   Let's start a drive to reinstate kchang and lila
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11/8	Would someone give me a pointer on what was the big controversy
	surrounding KAIS MOTD, the whole story, and in particular, why
	the name attribute logging is a such big deal?  ever since
	KAIS MOTD being terminated, people start to censoring MOTD again.
	and it is very annoying.
	\_ So, someone said something threatening toward amckee, like
	   instituting a blacklist saying "do not hire amckee".  amckee
	   used KAIS MOTD identification to turn off someone's account,
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	   kchang asking him to turn it off, with wording that some
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	   kchang just took the whole thing down.  Clear enough?  --PeterM
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	   (in)accuracy.  kchang did not respond to Politburo e-mail and was
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11/5    STOP NUKING THE MOTD!!!
	\_ How long has it been since the last official squishing?
	   \_ new politburo policy as of the paolo administration is that
	      it's OK to have automatic scripts deleting the MOTD.  -tom
		\_ how about past users who were squished? take kchang
		   for example. some guy wrote a "kchang is a fag" motd
		   adder script and tricked him into writing a motd deletion
		   script which got him squished.
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		    \_ Is that really why kchang was sorried?  If so, that's
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4/14    amazing. simply amazing.
        http://csua.com/
        (thanks psb via james)  - rory
        \_ What the... He goes through and stores and indexs the motd
           everyday?
		\_ no it's fully automatic
        \_ All the more so since I thought that kchang's account was sorried
           ages ago, though I don't really follow these things. -- ulysses
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           \_ Well, I can't find a kchang though finger, so he must be
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	      \_ grep kchang /etc/passwd
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		http://csua.com/?q=kchang+sorried
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			 too.  Was that guy found and sorried as well?
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			    bunch of crap that he was sorried, and i'm glad
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11/8	tom holub
	\_ ilya shpitser
	\_ david bushong
	\_ charlie root
	\_ geordan rosario
	   \_ Hi! -geordan
	\_ peter mardahl
	   \_ (what does this list of names represent?)
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	   kchang asking him to turn it off, with wording that some
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	   kchang just took the whole thing down.  Clear enough?  --PeterM
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	      in my innocent eye, kchang has nothing to do with this at all.
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	      logging feature is not accurate.  I don't think it's kchang's
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		  \_ Yes, I understood clearly that kchang's naming
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                            sorried here since you not only made threats, but
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                            sorried here since he not only made threats, but
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	\_ Politburo sent kchang a couple e-mails asking him to turn off
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	   (in)accuracy.  kchang did not respond to Politburo e-mail and was
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	      was not communicated to kchang. And some of the communication
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5/29	Why did kchang get sorried?
	\_ Lack of proper sense of humor on the part of Politburo?
	\_ (Destructive) scripts on the motd get you squished
	   \_ but the same destruction done manually is ok, huh?
	      \_ being a hoser in general will also get you squished
	         (hey, I didn't write the rules)
	      \_ actually, this will also get you squished, see:
	         /csua/adm/doc/policies/motd
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8/17    Squishing kchang the second time is like going back to Iraq
        the second time. Just as GWB has no proof of WMD but decided
        to squish Sadam anyways because of credible intelligence
        from the CIA, the CSUA administration decided to squish
        kchang because of credible finger-of-death intelligence
        from the EECS department. And just as GWB tries to finish
        off the business that his daddy started, the current CSUA
        administration is finishing off the business that their
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           the way that society operates. Get it kchang?
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                    \_ ilyas, I suggest you find out more about kchang's
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           \_ squishing kchang is like squishing Al Capone. They
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                \_ kchang, and you, signed something which explicitly said
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           \_ while kchang's was rather rude to some of the ladies, that
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              squising since returning.  I support having kchang back.
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                          abused the "spirit of the law" and squished kchang
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5/19	Any other good reverse poll topics? Geordan, being the "winner" of
	the last poll, mind telling us what you do?
	\_ Dude, there were people on the list that were worse off than
	   Geordan.  By far.
	   \_ By far? Here are the competitors that I found in motd,v:
		- $20k grad school - doesn't count
		- 7 years BS, $60k - geordan
		- 12 years __English Lit__, $60k
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               Should kchang be sorried? :
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11/07   Has the KAIS MOTD issue been resolved? Can Kevin turn
        the 24 hr diff and searching again?
	\_ Kevin can do whatever he likes.  We asked him (not demanded) that
	   he turn off the name attribute logging feature because we thought
	   it would make a more anonymous better environment.  We didn't mean
	   to imply that if he didn't turn it off we would sorry him (as it
	   is easy for anyone to log motd edits and hard to stop or track
	   those who do). -mrauser
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	   \_ He would not (necessarily) be sorried for leaving the logging
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           continue to inspire many programmers to come. Thanks. -kchang
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		      \_ Yeah, ok, so would I.  So what's yer price, kchang?
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10/21	I'm trying to write a Perl script with a spam assassin interface
	so that it'll take out trolls. Please keep up the troll keywords
	thread below so that I can make the program as perfect as possible.
	\_ You mean an auto-motd-censor script?  I thought these were grounds
	   for sorrying of account.
	   \_ it damn well better be.  hey op, go fuck yourself.
	      we know who you are.
	   \_ no no no, no AUTO motd script. Yes, auto motd scripts can
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	      get you sorried (case in point dumb ass kchang). My point is
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	      I believe what I am doing has no grounds for sorried account
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10/25	http://csua.com/
	Uber-lame.
        \_ I suggest that various members of root staff and/or politburo
           are violating the "not being a hoser" clause by sending such
           a stupid message and shutting down a useful service.
	   \_ root/politburo had only requested that kchang remove the
	      faulty attribution feature. I think kchang took down the
	      rest of it all on his own.
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	      \_ politburo wields a big sword in front of kchang and
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		 \_ Well, amckee wrongly sorried someone based on kchang's
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		    based on kchang's attribution?
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			  to think you could have sorried him for running
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			  comply then you would not have sorried him?
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	   kchang's logging feature, but this resource was not consulted.
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	   \_ kchang was asked twice to remove a feature.  kchang took
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              to whomever you thought made it" kchang hasn't posted
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		 unreasonable to expect kchang to play nice after being
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		      for mr kchang to include a disclaimer about the accuracy
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			 see the point in telling kchang or anyone else not
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		 Is it acceptable for kchang to release his scripts so other
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		       to run kchang's scripts, should he choose to release
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			  I've had 'magical kchang quality scripts' for years
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				\_ It's common knowledge that kchang's toys
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				   \_ I think kchang knows that his results
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	      request that you [kchang] remove the attribution feature
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		 \_ Which is a reasonable request.  kchang is just being a
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		       for kchang, he never claimed his toys were
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                       of salt. I'm pretty sympathetic to kchang here.
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9/26	Just a quick update announcement: tom still has no penis.  thanks
	\_ shut up, shin.  -tom
	   \_ what are you going to do - release the hounds? or the bees?
	      or the hounds that shoot bees when they bark? well, go
	      ahead.
		\_ shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your booty,
		   shake your booty.
		\_ I'm not going to do anything, except expose you for
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		        \_ This the reason kchang got (thankfully) sorried?
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10/16	Dear fellow working alumni. I have begun circulating a negative
	networking blacklist in my company. I am making sure amckee does
	not get hired. I work at Intel Corporation and I've passed the
	list to my friends some who work at Yahoo and Google. They've also
	begun circulating it to the HR depts in other companies as well,
	including the less well know companies. Please circulate the list
	throughout Silicon Valley and tell me which companies you've passed
	the list to. thx. 	 -alum of 1990, Intel Verification, SC
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	\_ This is the reason that brett was temporarily sorried. We will
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        \_ Upon speaking with Brett, this is not attributable to him. kchang's
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           I have unsorried him and am sorry for any inconvenience.  However,
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