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criticized Obama today for not sufficiently distancing himself from the controversial pastor. I've now learned that a member of Hillary's finance committee and a longtime ally of the Clintons has made some very explicit statements about Barack Obama's ties to his controversial minister, Jeremiah Wright, saying that it's "legitimate" to raise questions about those ties, comparing Wright to David Duke, and claiming that Obama has "used race where it suited him."
Joe Wilson, making O'Dowd the third Hillaryite (or fourth, if you include Hillary herself) to hit Obama over Wright. The interview is worth a listen, because it's another example of supporters of the candidates (see Power, Samantha) getting themselves in potential trouble by saying things abroad in settings where more candor is possible, and indeed expected, than here in America...
The comments from O'Dowd -- who's long been close to both Clintons, having served as a key adviser on Irish affairs to Bill Clinton and hosting a big fundraiser for Hillary last year -- go farther on Wright than Hillary and her supporters have thus far. O'Dowd said that the Wright comments raised "a legitimate question" and observed that "it's interesting that Barack Obama sat in the pews while all this was going on, and never once in any of his books or anything else" did he denounce Wright, adding: "He worshipped this man." O'Dowd also compared Wright to Duke and inadvertently said that the Hillary campaign is actively making an issue of the Wright controversy, something the campaign (Hillary's comments today notwithstanding) has been careful to avoid doing. If this was David Duke and he was preaching on behalf of, and Hillary Clinton was in the pew, there would be outrage about this. Barack Obama has used race where it suited him, but when it doesn't suit him he backs away from it."
Permalink avatar To suggest that Wright for speaking his opinion is similar to David Duke who is/was a member of the KKK which terrorized Black families for decades and lynched innocent Blacks is REMARKABLY DISGUSTING AND OFFENSIVE! There is NO comparison whatsover and it just shows that some people just don't freaking get it. this is serious stuff these people are messing with and it's not going to be pretty. The Clintons are disgusting VILE people and so are their supporters.
Just where the fuck do you get off saying Wright doesn't love America? Is it because he refused to stand idly by while NeoCon Oil whores sent hundreds of thousands of MY COUNTRYMEN to get slaughtered and mindfucked for some Straussian manifest-destiny wet dream? In my book he's a PATRIOT of the HIGHEST ORDER for standing against an immoral, unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation, and the bloodthirsty warmongers who cheered us into this mess are the goddamn cowards.
Jeremiah Wright is a cause of the hate-mongering white racists like David Duke. The hate and bitter racial divide that still exist in our country today are most prevalent in the more technologically-challenged, rural areas of our country, like the south, where people like David DuKKKe can still win elections.
Permalink avatar I posted some of this on another thread, but felt it needed to be said here, too. What does the Clinton campaign have against Oprah's Church? Clinton and her staff and advisors might want to watch something other than FOX News before she decides to comment on a colleague's church? Wright to David Duke is utterly absurd and completely offensive. A recent press release from Trinity UCC, issued by the new Senior Pastor, the Rev. Otis Moss III, identifies Trinity's generosity and accomplishments, and then says that on Sunday mornings alone, over 36 years, Pastor Wright has spoken for 207,792 minutes. The video clips represent perhaps 15-20 seconds of that time. Clinton - are quick to judge him, his church, and, indeed, the entire denomination, on this statistically ridiculous sample. David Duke, on the other hand, has decades of consistency being a racist. Quite the opposite of the Klansman turned politician, Rev. Wright, like other UCC ministers, regularly spoke about important issues of justice, and racism is surely one of them. To deny the reality of racism in our nation -- both historically and in the present day -- is to ignore one of the most pressing social justice issues our nation faces. Anyone who has built a congregation from 87 members to some 8000 and whose congregation has modeled ministries to one of the poorest areas of Chicago has provided a body of work that speaks for itself. Wright's legacy includes more than seventy active ministries and eight corporations, including a credit union, a community development corporation, a health and hospice corporation, a higher education corporation, a day care center, two senior housing complexes, a federally chartered credit union, and an elementary school which has received a charter from the Chicago Public Schools Board of Education. Trinity UCC is known for its benevolence and commitment to education. During his pastorate, Trinity UCC has given in excess of $1 million dollars in scholarships to high school graduates entering college. I have first-hand experience of Trinity UCC, its leaders and its ministries, and I know it to be a faithful, generous and justice-minded congregation that takes seriously its ministry within and among the African American community on Chicago's south side. The United Church of Christ includes many of the oldest congregations in this country. It is socially, racially, economically and theologically diverse, and its membership includes 10 members of Congress -- five Republicans and five Democrats, including Sen. Where is her campaign statement against MSNBC commentator and David Duke impersonator) Pat Buchanan telling an African-American commentator to "shut up" recently? Or a statement denouncing his recent column "A Brief for Whitey" where he contends that black folks should be thankful for slavery? Where's her outrage over what Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell said around the same time as Rev.
This is overall a bad development for Obama and the party, I think, but I agree there could be a silver lining here finally. To some extent, she's stealing the Republicans' thunder, and associating this line of attack with the last throes of a dying campaign. Soon we'll all be singing along with this every time someone brings it up. "How could you" "Sit there in that pew" "And for twen-ty years" "You brought your children, too" Sorry, trying to stay upbeat while watching the Democratic Party's version of Godzilla smashing Tokyo.
Permalink avatar This is not even close to Samantha Power. Saying Monster or stating a position in phrasing the candidate has to explain (but by all logic is true) is just nothing like this0. This is trashing, calling racist and hateful the leading candidate to be the nominee of our party. Too bad he didn't explain it by saying something like: It's a diverse congregation "that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation."
How can you sit and listen for 20 years and even expose your children to the gospel of Jesus. What kind of man would listen to someone preaching week after week about your our obligation to love God and one another. That kind of love speech soaking into your head would make you all about hope and unity and we can't have that crap. Working on behalf of the poor, seeking justice at every turn? Just because you choose to live your life with a loving heart, compassion and justice it does not give you the right to expose your children. Listen Mr Barack Obama, we do not let people into the white house that could do dangerous things li...
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