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2006/5/22-25 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:43139 Activity:nil 80%like:43135
5/20    Say it ain't so!  A Democratic bribery scheme?
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12903856/?GT1=8199
        \_ Of course it's so.  However, note that no one is covering for him,
           helping his defense fund, etc. a la Delay/Cunningham/Ney.
           \_ When was Delay caught taking $100k cash bribes and taking money
              from both sides in multi national scams through shell companies?
              \_ When did WJC plead out to driving under the influence to
                 avoid a possible possession charge? Never.
                 \_ What's Clinton have to do with it?  Red herring.  The guy
                    got busted with $100k bribe cash in his house broken up
                    into $10k chunks hidden in his freezer.  How does that
                    compare to Delay, etc?  If you're going to compare someone
                    like Delay to this guy, please be prepared to make a case
                    for it.
                    \_ PP posted that this is different because no one's
                       trying to cover for him. You replied with a non
                       sequitur concerning whether DeLay was caught with
                       $100k in cash bribes. I'm pointing out that your
                       point is a non sequitur by posting a further non
                       sequitur.
                       \_ I wasn't non sequitur at all.  OP made a statement.
                          Followup was non sequitur mentioning Delay, etc.  I
                          pointed that out.  Clinton?  Non sequitur.
                          \_ OP posted about a Democratic bribery scheme,
                             which in the charged environment of the motd is
                             tantamount to saying, "See? It's not just the
                             GOP." Followup pointed out that noone was saying
                             this was a uni-partisan issue, just that the
                             GOP has an outstanding track record of covering
                             for each other when their dirty laundry comes out,
                             which in this case the Dems demonstratively were
                             not doing. You then compared particulars of the
                             crimes rather than the cover-ups, which is a
                             non-sequitur. I then successfully diverted you on
                             this inane argument about non sequiturs.
                             Mission Accomplished.
                             \_ I skipped straight down to your last sentence.
                                If you spent more than ten seconds of your
                                life on this you already lost.
              \_ When will your brain develop beyond a 3rd grader's level?
                 Never.
                 \_ This made me laugh.  Going off like a 3rd grader was
                    ironic.  Were you going for satire or something or really
                    meant this?
                    \_ 1) You're not worth the effort of satire, and 2) what
                       you said was truly idiotic, as pointed out above.
                       \_ 3) Profit!!!  See above about the 10 second rule.
        \_ "All but $10,000 was recovered on Aug. 3 when the FBI searched
            Jefferson.s home in Washington. The money was stuffed in his
            freezer, wrapped in $10,000 packs and concealed in food
            containers and aluminum foil."
           C'mon, people, surely you can do better than "hiding" it in your
           freezer!
           \_cold hard cash?
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As Jefferson and the informant passed notes about what percentage the lawmaker's family might receive, the congressman "began laughing and said, 'All these damn notes we're writing to each other as if we're talking, as if the FBI is watching,"' according to the affidavit. Jefferson has not been charged and denies any wrongdoing. As for the $100,000, the government says Jefferson got the money in a leather briefcase last July 30 at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington. The plan was for the lawmaker to use the cash to bribe a high-ranking Nigerian official - the name is blacked out in the court document - to ensure the success of a business deal in that country, the affidavit said. The money was stuffed in his freezer, wrapped in $10,000 packs and concealed in food containers and aluminum foil. Two of Jefferson's associates have pleaded guilty to bribery-related charges in federal court in Alexandria. Weekend search of offices The new details about the case emerged after federal agents searched Jefferson's congressional office on Capitol Hill Saturday night and Sunday. The nearly 100-page affidavit for a search warrant, made public Sunday with large portions blacked out, spells out much of the evidence so far. The document includes excerpts of conversations between Jefferson and an unidentified business executive from northern Virginia. She agreed to wear a wire after she approached the FBI with complaints that Jefferson and an associate had ripped her off in a business deal. Jefferson's lawyer, Robert Trout, contended that the prosecutors' disclosure was "part of a public relations agenda and an attempt to embarrass Congressman Jefferson. The affidavit itself is just one side of the story, which has not been tested in court," Trout said in a statement. The affidavit says Jefferson is caught on videotape at the Ritz-Carlton as he takes a reddish-brown briefcase from the trunk of the informant's car, slips it into a cloth bag, puts the bag into his 1990 Lincoln Town Car and drives away. The $100 bills in the suitcase had the same serial numbers as those found in Jefferson's freezer. While the name of the intended recipient of the $100,000 is blacked out, other details in the affidavit indicate he is Abubakar Atiku, Nigeria's vice president. He owns a home in Potomac, Md, that authorities have searched as part of the Jefferson investigation. Jefferson assured the FBI informant in their coded conversations that he paid the money to the Nigerian official, even though the money was still in Jefferson's possession when agents searched his home Aug.