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6/21 Clinton lies!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157303/posts
\_ Please don't delete properly-formatted freeper links. -liberal
\_ It's a good thing 'liberal' is here to let others know that
s/he has given 'protected' status to properly formatted freeper
links. Here Ye! Here Ye! Let it be known that it is no longer
ok to censor properly formatted freeper links as they now fall
under the protection of 'liberal'! -!freeperboy
\_ Freeper links mysteriously disappearing makes liberals look
like we don't tolerate debate.
\_ It isn't a mystery. Leftists have been censoring the
poor lad since day 1. Where's the mystery? -!freeperboy
\_ I read it. Boy was it a waste of time. And here I was
trying to be mature and engage my Republican friends
in an thoughtful debate and all I read about are the
non-sensical rantings of a bitter author. There's
nothing substantive in here. Now I see why people
delete URLs.
\_ Freeper != Republican. Freeper != conservative. There
are real honest to god conservatives right here on the
motd. Freeperboy isn't one of them.
\_ No. Free republic is useless noise, and a link from it
with the description "Clinton lies!" is most certainly
noise.
\_ Of course, there is the possibility that it was posted
by a liberal to shake up an insufferably dull motd
to make a boring monday morning more interesting.
\_ That's the most reasonable explanation I've seen.
Given that the Freepers have cried wolf so much,
it only makes sense to feature them as entertainment.
\_ Not just reasonable, also correct. -op
\_ More fringie than the tinfoil hat crowd. I
love it!
\_ Big news! Sky is blue!
\_ No it's not. It's grey!
\_ No it's not. It's gray!
\_ Clinton Lies! Hillary Cries!
\_ The truth? You can't handle the truth!
\_ dude, he lied about *SEX* Everybody lies about SEX.
On the other hand, we got a guy in whitehouse right now lied about
WAR. If this is happening in Alex Hamiton's time, it would be
considered as an act of treason.
\_ Lied about war? Which war and what lies? URL, please. And no,
everybody doesn't lie about sex. People who aren't scumbags
don't have to lie about it. Chew on that for a while.
\_ Who is Alex Hamiton?
\_ Mmmmrrrnnnn Brrrrr!
\_ Look at a $10 bill some time.
\_ Oh thanks! I have achieved enlightenment! Now please
tell me, who was that poor old man that died the other
week? What was his name, Roald Raygoon?
\_ Hi troll!
\_ Not everyone believes that Bush lied about the war. There
is no way to prove (beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt)
that he lied about the war. Clinton, however was caught
with is pants down.
\_ If you note what was actually said and not what the media
op/ed pages paraphrase him into saying, there was no lying.
\_ I completely agree. I don't think that he has misled
or lied about the war. He has been fairly honest about
it since the beginning. Anyone who knows how intel.
works knows that it can never be 100%. You often have
to make time sensitive decisions based on incomplete,
conflicting data.
\_ He said he was certain that Saddam had WMD when the
evidence was contradictory and uncertain. That counts
as a "lie" in my book. Look up the defn of lie. It has
more than one defn. Spreading a falsehood (that you
believe to be true) is a lie by one defn of it. He
is certainly guilty of this kind of lie.
Lie \Lie\ (l[imac]), n. [AS. lyge; akin to D. leugen, OHG. lugi,
G. l["u]ge, lug, Icel. lygi, Dan. & Sw. l["o]gn, Goth. liugn.
See {Lie} to utter a falsehood.]
[...]
2. A fiction; a fable; an untruth. --Dryden.
\_ bush hems and misinterprets and miscontrues
and exaggerates immensely the true economic costs of
his tax cuts like ALL THE TIME, whenever he opens
his mouth, i think we're living in an alternate
reality, i don't know how he gets away with it. |
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| www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157303/posts JesseHousman COMMENTARY It would have been a revealing moment, if we hadn't seen it before so many times. Bill Clinton, asked about his last-minute pardon of a rogue oil trader accused of cheating the government out of $48 million in taxes, said it was a mistake -- but only because he ''took a lot of grief'' about it. It is precisely that self-regard -- and the lawyerly evasions and wounded complaints that accompanied it -- that has caused Clinton so much trouble over the years. But as his hourlong interview with Dan Rather on 60 Minutes Sunday night showed, he still doesn't get it. Clinton's political success has always been based on his easy intimacy, his ability to make you feel that even though he's speaking to 300 million Americans and half the rest of the world on television, the only one he's really talking to is you. That side of Clinton was abundantly on display in his interview with Rather. He quietly, gravely described how he sat on the side of the bed to tell his wife he had cheated on her. He hilariously demonstrated how he traded judo grips while practicing how to keep Yasser Arafat from kissing him at a public ceremony. Regardless of whether you thought his cigar games with Lewinsky (and his lies about them to a grand jury, which Clinton conveniently omitted from his discussion Sunday) rose to the level of an impeachable offense, or even a matter of public concern, it was infuriating to watch him on television boldly declare: ''I did not have sexual relations with that woman,'' then admit a few months later that he had. Clinton did not understand that the nature of the relationship he forged with Americans elevated presidential lies into personal betrayals. He said he and his wife Hillary rebuilt their marriage after his affair with Lewinsky through marital counseling, but failed to mention that they also went through lengthy counseling after his earlier infidelities while governor of Arkansas. He implicitly criticized President Bush for failing to do enough to catch Osama bin Laden while not acknowledging that his own efforts were ineffectual, if not half-hearted. He said Bush shouldn't have invaded Iraq but overlooked the fact that the official policy of his own administration from 1998 onward was regime change. Dan Rather let that slip by, as he did most of Clinton's tiptoeing half-truths. It would be unfair to say that Rather pitched nothing but softballs, but in none of the six interviews he has had with Clinton over the past dozen years has Rather ever shown the combativeness he did in confrontations with Richard Nixon. To see how Clinton reacts under that kind of cross-examination, we'll have to wait for an interview on the BBC this week, where British journalist David Dimbleby asks Clinton just how genuine his contrition over the Lewinsky affair really is. Clinton's response, reportedly, is anything but vintage Slick Willie. View Replies To: JesseHousman He did get Clinton to admit that he lied on the "60 minutes" program about Gennifer Flowers. Instead said Hillary was really strong for doing that for Bill. View Replies To: lonestar The program had to have set some kind of record for number of lies, multiple distortions and parsed sentences. I watched the show and kept wanting to reach over and "beep" his bulbous nose. View Replies To: lonestar Plus he's a pathological liar. I am of the opinion that Slick Willie and Slick Hillie are both candidates for straitjackets and rubber rooms. Watching Hillary (and Skerry, for that matter) speak is like watching the emoting of someone insane. Absolutely nothing intelligible passes her little fish lips; however, the legions of Hillary-lovers nod their heads (and she continuously nods hers) in agreement with her utterances. If, after a Hillary "speech" exit polls would be taken and questions about what was said by their heroine they would be absolutely clueless. This Clinton duo has droned on for the equivalent of years, ever since the voters of Arkancide got the Clinton political ball rolling towards the pot of gold they so richly deserve, and have said absolutely nothing of value! They are typical Marxists, like Castro, who could go on all day. Unfortunately their supporters are as insane as they are and asylums would be filled to overflowing if they sought treatment for their insanity. View Replies Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. |