4/27    Where can I find soda's IMAP/secured POP3 instruction?  It used to be
        on the web site but I don't see it anymore.  The search form on the
        web site just says, "You don't have permission to access
        /mt/mt-search.cgi on this server".  Thanks in advance.
        \_ You have to use secure IMAP; the server is <DEAD>mail.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD>.
           I'm not sure why this isn't on the website.
           \_ Standard secure IMAP port? Thx
    \_ Whoops, cgi is disabled on http but not on https. I'm in the midst of
       CS150, will fix later. Also, you can add the info to the CSUA Wiki if
       you like. We find that the most common use case is for people to forward
       mail, so we just automatically create .forwards for people on account
       creation. --t
        \_ Whoops, cgi is disabled on http but not on https. I'm in the midst
        of CS150, will fix later. Also, you can add the info to the CSUA Wiki
        if you like. We find that the most common use case is for people to
        forward mail, so we just automatically create .forwards for
        people on account creation. --t

3/19    when i take a dump, the outer lips of my outer colon/sphincter
        become grossly inflamed and angry, preventing further expelling
        of matter.  what is my condition?  what is possible treatment?
        \_ Have you read:
           Sometimes, internal hemorrhoids will come through the anal opening
           when straining to move your bowels. This is called a prolapsed
           internal hemorrhoid; it is often difficult to ease back into the
           rectum, and is usually quite painful. View hemorrhoid
           gallery for detailed photos.
        \_ sounds like what I have.  motd medical doctor can you take a look
           at these - http://pastie.org/421631
           \_ Is that latest issue of LinuxJournal
        \_ medical advice by wikpedia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorrhoid
        \_ woah does anyone's butt here work this way?  mine doesn't:
           If hemorrhoids pop out of your rectum put a heavy dose of neosporin
           ointment on them then pop them back in.
        \_ do you think House reads motd
           \_ He carries his cane for a purpose, you know.
           \_ He carries his crane for a purpose, you know.
        \_ maybe sony can motd-diagnose-you
        \_ This discussion scared me. I just took a moment to eat an apple
            and a whole grain cereal.

8/22    http://piratecatradio.com
        \_ bets on how long they last?
        \_ paolo they have been around for 10 years.  What is your point?
        \_ they have been around for 10 years.  What is your point?
        \_ didn't those guys live at the cracktory?
           \_ lol cracktory
              \_ paolo do you purchase fine grade crack or does your skin
              \_ do you purchase fine grade crack or does your skin
                 spontaneously generate it?
        \_ lol why do you respond 4 times to your own posts paolo?
        \_ lol why do you respond 4 times to your own posts?
        \_ lol paolo why do you respond 4 times to your own posts?
           \_ it's easier than auto-deleting the motd
              \_ a challenge!
              \_ god that was what, 10 years ago?
                 \_ more like 7 get it right, dork!
                    \_ oh
                       \_ lulz
                          \_ ZOGOMG
           \_ at least we're not selling arms to syria!

8/12    How does an liberal athlete like Michael Phelps, who doens't have a
        job because he swims/trains all day long, make an income?
        (I'm assuming national/international swimming competitions
        don't pay monetary rewards for first place). thanks.
        \_ He's a gigalo at night. Haven't you heard all the ladies
           going gah gah at him?
           \_ After having seen what he looks like, I don't get this.
              I'm not much of a connoseur (sp?) of male beauty, but
              in my opinion, he's not a great example.  Perhaps
              I'm not qualified to judge, as I'm not female or gay,
              but I do not aspire to look like him.  I'd rather look
              like Jean Claude Van Dam, or that guy from Bourne Identity.
              \_ He has kind of a dopey face, but a very nice body like
                 most swimmers do. You could do a lot worse.
                 \_ But his body ratios are werid, with long arms and short
                    legs.  Reminds me of a pinguin (which is a great swimmer,
                    of course.)  Do women like that?
                 \_ I wasn't even referring to his face, just his body.
                    His body is pretty scrawny, I think, with barely any
                    large muscle.  He looks more like an endurance athlete
                    than someone who is strong but not an obsessive
                    weightlifter.  Not what I aspire to look like, which
                    is powerful, proportionally muscled, lean-ish, and
                    balanced.  Is Phelps really the female's ideal man
                    look?  Have I been barking up the wrong tree with my
                    training?
                    \_ Every woman is different, but in my experience, most
                       women prefer lean and cut to really huge. He shaves,
                       which lots of women like, too.
                       \_ Does shaving help or hurt getting laid?  -virgin
                          \_ I dunno, do your prospective paramours see you
                             with your shirt off?
        \_ Going pro/full time usually means sponsorship.
           \_ Maybe Speedo pays him millions.
              \_ Speedo does pay him. He'll also get a $1M bonus if
                 he wins 8 gold medals.
           \_ And with the fame that goes with medals comes much
              wealth.  You can do product endorsements.  From what
              I have heard about women raving about Phelp's body,
              he could probably make millions as a model as well.
              \_ Supposedly his body is actually kind of weirdly deformed,
                 but in a way that's good for swimming. E.g., very long
                 arms and torso, short legs. I think I may have read this in
                 the latest issue of the Cal Alumni magazine. I recall the
                 writer saying that his arms hang down to his knees, but I
                 didn't see this when I caught him on TV for a couple minutes
                 last night. *shrugs*
                 \_ Last night a Korean lady refered to him as "The American
                    Fish Monster."
                 \_ Yeah I think he has a 6 foot "wingspan" and giant hands
                    and feet. And long torso/short legs.
                    \_ It's true!  Here's a full-body non-wide-angle shot (so
                       that ratios are not distorted):
                       link:www.csua.org/u/m4e (http://www.mgoswim.com
                       And Phelps says it himself:
                       link:www.csua.org/u/m4f (http://www.mgoswim.com
                       (BTW, his fingers look long too.  I wonder if he plays
                       the piano.)
                       \_ Who is the blonde girl? Yummy!
        \_ Sponsorships.  I read some article somewhere recently about how
           pro runners make money.  The running eq. people fund them because
           it gets mediocre runners to participate in marathons and buy running
           eq. and pay entry fees into marathons.  There might be something
           similar for swimming.
           \_ Yeah, you used to not be able to do this and maintain amature
              status, but now even the pro basketball players are in the
              Olympics, so I guess they gave up on the whole amature thing
              a long time ago.
        \_ Phelps is voting for Obama, he is probably funded by Al Qaeda or
           something.
        \_ Anyone beloved and worshipped in Germany won't get my vote for
           sure.   We've already been down that road 63 years ago.
           \_ Phelps == Hitler?

6/9     Yay, Herpes makes a comeback
        http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D916M4QO0
        \_ A comeback? I didn't know it was ever unpopular..
        \_ Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
           \- Ive been around for a long, long year
              Stole many a mans soul and faith
              And I was round when jesus christ
              Had his moment of doubt and pain

6/8     http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5825701.html

10/25   Opera 9.5 beta is out, including the new link feature that allows you
        to sync bookmarks across computers, including the mobile version.
        http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?custom=yes
        \_ Why would anyone want to use Opera over FF?  What features does
           O provide that FF+extensions does not?
           \_ I avoided using opera for really long time until recently when
              I had to reinstall linux on my *old* laptop with only 384MB of
              RAM.  Just loading firefox (version 2, as the dist didn't
              include 1.5) took up so much memory that it caused the system
              to swap in and out constantly.  Yeah, linux VM isn't the
              greatest, but having a lightweight option is a good thing.
              Opera 9.3 ran smoothly on it (as long as I didn't visit a flash
              heavy site.)
              \_ Hmmm, ok.  Opera is good for low end machines, has less
                 bloat/features.  I can see that.  Thanks.

3/7     link:tinyurl.com/2qq86k
        \_ Picture of a young woman, borderline sfw.
           \_ Saying something is sfw/nsfw is subjective. For example if
              work is in the kid's section of the library or the IT dept
              of the Mormon Corporation then what you liburals think is
              sfw may no longer be. I suspect this is one of the reasons
              why emarkp deletes anything that borders obscenity.
        \_ More pics of the same woman please?
           \_   link:tinyurl.com/33ed4j link:tinyurl.com/2ztsya
                link:tinyurl.com/2rokrk link:tinyurl.com/2qsevj
                link:tinyurl.com/34fjgv link:tinyurl.com/2lzcmd
                link:tinyurl.com/2skqnl http://tinyurl.com/2qdsh2
                http://tinyurl.com/39b2bk http://tinyurl.com/35qbrg
                http://tinyurl.com/2rayd3 http://tinyurl.com/2rvuzc
                http://tinyurl.com/2kxal3 http://tinyurl.com/2zf4dk
                http://tinyurl.com/3bpa8v http://tinyurl.com/2wcqvh
                http://tinyurl.com/2u5sov http://tinyurl.com/3x5bfm
                http://tinyurl.com/3bllu2 http://tinyurl.com/2svoq9
                http://tinyurl.com/2jmczf http://tinyurl.com/2leoah -!dans
                \_ bleargh.
                \_ The last one (http://tinyurl.com/2leoah) seems good.  All
                   the other ones, well, I can skip dinner tonight.

2/25    Any reason why British people have bad teeth in general?
        \_ Floride.  POE.
           \_ I thought floride prevents tooth decay.  -- !OP
              \_ Purity Of Essence.  The Brits have it.
        \_ Mostly it's a comparison issue: Americans place a high regard on
           orthodonture and good-looking teeth, whereas Brits traditionally
           have not. This is changing, and within a generation or so, Brit
           teeth may look no worse than average American teeth. Cf. Japanese
           teeth or any other nation's teeth, for that matter.
           \- there is probably a discontinuity because it isnt covered
              in their national heath care system or something like that.
              \_ Japanese health insurance usually covers dental fixes but
                 not regular check-ups. Ounce of prevention, etc.
        \_ Socialized medicine.
           \_ Rubbish. My brothers and I grew up in the world's greatest
              living example of socialism, the US military, and our teeth
              are fine.
              \_ The USM isn't socialist.  As a soldier you are a product and
                 resource unit, property as you will, of the USM.  It wouldn't
                 do to spend so much on your training and upkeep and then have
                 you not ready for battle because of a tooth ache.  The USM
                 takes care of it's property until it's time not to.   If you
                 weren't actually soliders and just army brats then the same
                 thing applies.  Can't have dad distracted from war because
                 his kids are home screaming in pain about their rotted teeth.
                 \_ I got guaranteed healthcare, dental, housing, counseling,
                    utilities, education, travel expenses, moving expenses,
                    subsidized groceries and consumer goods, and in return the
                    military told us where to go and what to do. I presented
                    papers at every gate I passed through, listened to
                    radio programs laced with propaganda (FEN, AFN), read
                    newspapers with propaganda (Stars & Stripes), and
                    assumed that the phones were tapped. How is this not
                    socialism? And yes, as I said, we grew up in the USM, so
                    we were military brats.
                    \_ Socialism has nothing to do with being a slave to the
                       state.  That is what the military is.  Try a dictionary,
                       polisci classmate, or your favorite online resource for
                       a detailed definition of socialism.  What you describe
                       is exactly what I described: the military owns you and
                       takes cares of you like property or a puppy, tells you
                       what to do, when, where, and how, and then when needed,
                       they spend you in a war somewhere or send your dad's
                       dog tags and a flag home to your mom.
                       \_ From Wikipedia:
                          "Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or
                           political movements that envisage a socio-economic
                           system in which property and the distribution of
                           wealth are subject to social control. This control
                           may be either direct-- exercised through popular
                           collectives such as workers' councils-- or
                           indirect-- exercised on behalf of the people by the
                           state. As an economic system, socialism is often
                           characterized by state or community ownership of
                           the means of production."
                          Now, examine what I wrote above and tell me how this
                          fails to meet a definition of Socialism.

12/13   jvarga, do you prefer free food or free strip club?
        \_ Seeing as I am Christian, I'm going to have to go with food on this
           one.  Besides, food sticks with ya longer than a lap dance. - jvarga
           \_ First the Jews bought the computer
              Then Athiests hacked into the computer
              But later on the Christians fixed up the computer
              Only to find out that the Muslims stole the computer
           \_ Depends on the lapdance. But still, meal's a better idea.

10/9    With US unable to police the globe, nations around the world will
        do whatever they please. Iran will conduct nuke tests and China will
        take this golden opportunity to reunite Taiwan.         -ChiCom Swami
        \_ can chicom swami give a time frame pls
        \_ Don't forget to mention North Korea.

8/22    Do did the white men kill buffalos, dodo-birds, the natives, and
        everything else they stumbled on?
        \_ Yeah, pretty much.  -George Custer
        \_ White men have brought buffalo back as a yummy meat.  Mmmmm...
           buffalo.
        \_ white man killed teh grammar
        \_ We didn't start the fire, it's been burnin' since the worlds been
           turnin'.
           \_ No, you guys did start the fire.  -Kunta Kinte
        \_ Yes.  Just like the natives who were here and other places before
           white people showed up killed every large creature they found until
           several were extinct.  Thanks for playing, though.
        \_ How come there are no more dragons in China? Chinese killed them.
           Evil Chinese.
           \_ They didn't like the smog so they left.
        \_ Generally, homo sapiens in general hunted any major species
           which was vulnerable to their level of technology and/or unafraid
           of humans due to evolutionary isolation.  Some of the extinctions,
           such as the dodo, were partly the result of hunting but more
           fundamentally the result of introduction of diseases, rats and
           cats.  Smallpox killed more native humans than guns ever did.
           Easter Islanders cut down all their trees (once the largest
           eucalyptus in the world).  -tom
                \_ Plagues and disease like smallpox are a little different
                   than one group of people wiping out large populations of
                   other people on purpose. -Heinrich Himmler
                   \_ Himmler wasn't such a bad guy, he liked trolls.  -John

3/29    Does soda have any blogging software preinstalled?  Any links
        on how to quickly get one going?  I don't need a blog but I need
        to pretend like I do.
        \_ Not to my knowledge.  Download Wordpress, install it in your
           ~/public_html directory.  It's not rocket science.  soda's apache
           configuration is *way* to restrictive for what's allowed in
           .htaccess files, which may cause you problems with some things,
           e.g. prettifying urls.  I've been meaning to email root about
           this. -dans

3/20    a while back someone on Motd was asking about force his/her
        cat on Vegie diet completely.  I have talked to my collegue from
        India.  He told me that there are plenty of cat in India who lived on
        pure Vegie diet and milk alone.  So, I guess it can be done.
        \_ Don't feed milk to cats.

4/20    Support The Culture Of Life
        http://csua.org/u/bs9
        \_ Related question: How come stores like Walmart and Vons sell yellow
           ribbons car stickers/magnets that say "Support our troops" yet no
           big chain store sells peace signs?
           \_ They can dance around the nonpolitical nature of the "Support"
              issue and no one is going to stand around and scream how
              unpatriotic it is to not sell peace signs, which would happen
              if they did that with the ribbons.
           \_ http://csua.org/u/bsc
              \_ That's nice. I'm sure the cartoonist has served.
                 I'm sure there would not be U.S. involvement in the
                 Middle East if there were no oil.
                 \_ Oh ya, the Marines would heroically waltz in, via the
                    precedent as upholders of light & civilization set in
                    Rwanda, Sudan, East Timor before they figured out about
                    some big-ass fields south of there, etc. etc.  I don't
                    like the "no blood for oil" simplifications you get, but
                    let's at least be realistic--the US hasn't (unfortunately)
                    done any gunboat diplomacy for pure idealism's sake in a
                    very long time.  -John
                    \_ What about Bosnia? They were *Muslims* we helped!
                    \_ How about Haiti? Sure, we didn't want the refugees,
                       but putting in Aristede by Clinton can be seen as mostly
                       idealistic. We sure didn't get anything out of it.
                       \_ OK my bad, I overlooked that, thanks.  You could
                          also say Panama, although we supported pineapple-
                          face for decades before.  My point is mainly that
                          the US has failed to engage in places where we
                          REALLY should have, and taken a ham-handed approach
                          where we might have stayed out (Iran, Chile, maybe
                          even Grenada, depending on your POV.)  -John
                          \_ While I agree, in a lot of cases I this
                             kind of thing is sort of unavaoidable.  The
                             whole foriegn policy changes practically
                             every 8 years.  Sometimes there a big evil
                             that makes us keep around lesser evils.
                             Johnson, Nixon, Carter, WTF?
                 \_ and I bet he doesn't know the impact of the opium trade
                    on China
                 \_ BUD DAY doesn't approve of your tone.
                 \_ Of course there wouldn't.  If there were no oil there the
                    ME would be uninhabited or economically irrelevant, so we
                    wouldn't care what the locals did because it couldn't
                    impact us.
                    \_ It would pretty much be just like Africa, except Israel
                       would probably run the place.
                       \_ Nah, they'd probably ignore it.  Though if they did
                          run it, the Arabs would be in better shape.

3/02    I am looking for a DVD writer as a backup device for my Mac laptop
        (I don't have/want a superdrive).  I have never used a dvd writer
        before and would like to hear your recommendation.  tia.
        \_ Get a LiteON drive, easy firmware upgrades, reads/writes almost
           anything. If the LiteON can't read it, chances are nothing
           can. I also highly recommend the Pioneer, overall quality
           is very good, stable burns even on cheapie see-through media
           (don't expect it to last though).
           LiteON drives can be purchased online. Retail they're sold as
           Sonys.
           \_ I respectfully disagree.  The NECs are much better writers
              than the Liteons.  I just use the Liteons since they support
              kprobe2 to verify the burns.
        \_ Pioneer. These are the most reliable and best supported.

9/22    http://www.playerappreciate.com/pimphandle.asp

7/21    So, if you were the national security guy for a previous admin and
        went into the national security archives to look at hot topic papers
        that a very closely watched bi partisan commission investigating
        terrorism and our response to it wanted for their report and jammed
        some of those papers down your shorts and in your socks and took
        them home and only fessed up when you got caught but completely
        destroyed some papers that there weren't any copies of would you
        expect to get off by saying it was just an honest mistake or expect
        serious jail time for your criminal act?  I think you're all being
        far too 'gotcha!' on this and need to understand that Sandy Berger
        was just following orders.  He's a loyal servant of his country and
        a good man who made an honest mistake and we should not engage in
        the sort of gotcha politics that we're now seeing.  Free Sandy!  Let
        Sandy come home to his family!
        \_ Seems like criminal misconduct to me.  If someone ordered him to
           do it they should be prosecuted too.
        \_ The whole "sock stuffing" thing is a completely unconfirmed leak.
           Nobody knows if its true.  What I'd like to know is who leaked
           the whole thing, and who is spreading the rumors.  Anyone want
           to vote?  My guess is:
           Karl Rove: .
           \_ I don't care who leaked it. He's already admitted to sneaking
              documents out and he should be prosecuted for that at least and
              an attempt should be made to find out if we was working with or
              for sb else. As for the socks and the actual destruction of docs,
              I'm waiting to see if any of that is true. I suspect a bit of
              "Drudge"-ery here. -- ulysses
              \_ The word is that the same person who compared Max Cleland
                 to Osama Bin Laden is the one pushing the sock stuffing
                 rumor...Saxby something?  Can't remember his exact name.
                 As for the sneaking of documents, he definitely fucked up
                 but right now I can't really see genuine criminal intent -
                 more like negligence.  There isn't any credible motive.
                 Some republicans are claiming he might have been trying
                 to help advise Kerry on port security, but you don't need
                 classified documents to show how badly Bush has screwed
                 that up...
                 \_ He was negligent?  He snuck high security papers out of
                    a high security facility and destroyed a bunch of them and
                    you think it was mere negligence?!  That's incredible.  The
                    port security documents were from the Clinton time period.
                    Everything he was looking at was from the Clinton time
                    period.  If it was a Republican busted red handed for
                    stealing papers like this by *stuffing them down his
                    shorts!* you'd be calling for his execution.  Hypocrite.

4/1     http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/gastron.shtml

10/16   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3248099187&category=4068
        \_ from the early days of Planned Parenthood maybe?

10/13   "Our armies do not come into your cities and lands as conquerors
         or enemies but as liberators..."
                General Stanley Maude, commander of the British forces,
                Baghdad, 1917
        Sound familiar?
        \_ The Brits kicked the Turkish out of Iraq, right?
           \_ How long did the Brits stay?
              \_ Until they lost the title of World Power.
                 \_ They were smart in pulling out at the right time,
                    unlike the French in Indochina and Algeria.
                    \_ Or the US in Vietnam or the USSR in Afghanistan.
           \_ The Brits were smart.  The got a mandate from the League of
              Nations.  Masters of diplomacy, in addition to military
              and economic might.
              \_ League of Nations? HAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!  They all cared even
                 less about the LoN then we do today about the UN.  There's
                 a reason it's gone and didn't last very long.  It was a
                 gentlemen's club with no gentlemen in it.
                 \_ I think you're confusing this with that Sean Connery
                    movie.

5/13    I'm doing research on Microsoft's rise to a multinational megacorp
        and need info on what they produce elsewhere and import for sale back
        into the US.  I know about the xbox.  There must be other stuff but
        google returns hundreds of thousands of hits for most MS related
        search terms.  Can the motd help me with this?  Anything they ship
        into the US, even they're only stamping the CD's elsewhere or printing
        box covers somewhere else that end up here.  Anything.  Thanks!
        \_ alot of huge companies have a company historian. maybe they have
           one, and maybe they'll help you.  it's worth a try.
           \_ I talked to someone there.  "It's all proprietary company secrets
              that can not be disclosed blah blah blah".  Sigh....
        \_ I just checked the underside of Microsoft keyboard and mouse and the
           labels on both read "Made in Mexico".  --- yuen
           \_ China for me.
            \_ Thanks!  Anyone know of any software they import in any sense?
             \_ Don't they outsource engineers from India?
                \_ Yeah there's stuff in India and maybe China, Russia, Israel
                   and I'm not sure about England or if England is just a local
                   business/sales office but I can't find product names.
        \_ check out business financial news (e.g. yahoo finance). Not sure
           how long the archives go back, but you might find stories about
           M$ acquisitions. Also, check out their SEC yearly reports. They
           often must disclose that they purchased so-and-so company. It's
           at least a place to start.
           \_ I work at a place where I have access to lots of merger
              and acquisition data... I just did a quick search and couldn't
              find any instances where MS purchased a company outside of the
              US, Europe or Canada -- actually, scratch that... two purchases
              in Israel and one in Japan... post your email if you want details
        \_ Doesn't almost every company (hi-tech or otherwise) have their
           products manufactured in other countries?
           \_ Yes, but MS is the subject of my research.  I'm only one guy.
              A company the size of MS should be enough to fill a few volumes.

12/12   Ahh, Berkeley's net connection saturated again....
        \_ It looks like there is some saturation, but the net problems of
           the past couple of days are probably due to denial-of-service
           \_ What denial of service attack?
           attacks, rather than traffic volume.  There's some slop in our
           network capacity; if we're at capacity, usenet traffic (15% of the
           total) gets deprioritized.
           Right now the bottleneck is the link to the Packeteer box itself,
           which is limited to 100 megabits but is being upgraded. -tom
           \_ The whole campus only gets 100mb/sec?
                \_ The campus, except the reshalls (which have their own pipe),
                   and SETI@Home (which also does), currently has 100 megabits
                   to the commodity Internet (that is, everything that's not
                   Internet 2).  -tom
                   \_ By the way, does the EECS have it's own connection
                      to commodity Internet or do they share this connection
                      with the rest of campus?
                        \_ I believe there are a couple of research links
                           directly into EECS, but most of their traffic
                           travels over the same nets as everyone else. -tom

10/16   I just upgraded my kernel to 4.7 and now it can't find the root
        partition.  I took out the ata static id option, so what should
        my root partition be called now?  It used to be /dev/ad1s1a.
        Even when I try to specify the name with ufs:/dev/... it says
        "can't find device ad"
        \_ Why would you start changing options before you've seen it come
           up clean?  Toss in a recovery floppy or the 4.7 boot cd and try to
           recover from there.  I did a fresh 4.7 install last night and it
           went fine.  I didn't change anything low level though.
        \_ only your kernel? did you upgrade the world too?

5/16    <DEAD>www.takeittothebridge.org<DEAD>
        \_ blah blah blah. yada yada yada.
           You, your friends or relatives should have been sitting on the top
           floor of WTC on 9/11. Maybe you'd sing differently after that.
        \_ these idiots lump Affirmative-Action, Legalizatio of Marijuana,
           bashing Jews, labor unions, and anti-war protest as one and the
           same. lame.
           \_ Stop making shit up. They look dumb enough already, why do
              feel the need to lie about it?
        \_ Free Mumia!!!

2/14    Saw an ad for an emachines PC. Intel celeron 1.2 GHz, 17" monitor
        (16" viewable, .27 dot pitch), 256 MB SDRAM, 40 GB drive, Direct AGP
        3D graphics, 16x max CD-RW, Lexmark color printer, and stereo speakers.
        $500 after rebate. Good deal?    -- soda gal
        \_ Depends what you plan to do with it.  If you plan to browse the
           web, play mp3s, and read word documents, it should do just fine.
           If you want to play games, you may be in trouble (Direct AGP 3D
           graphics could mean POS previous generation ATI OEM video card).
           Also bear in mind that the hardware will almost certainly be low
           end, generic hardware.  Read: if you want to run a non-MS OS,
           you're probably in trouble.  Another issue is that, in general,
           cheap generic hardware has a higher failure rate.  Fortunately,
           most hardware fails in the first 30-90 days so it's usually covered
           under warranty.  At best the speakers will be suitable for casual
           listening, at worst they will be junk.  Same can be said for the
           monitor.  It's probably not the kind of monitor you can sit in
           front of for 6-8 hours at a stretch, but it'll probably do for
           typical non-geek use.  So, yes, $500 is cheap for a complete
           computer (including monitor), but don't expect any miracles.
           -dans
        \_ A summary of dans's statement: you get what you pay for.
           \_ But don't spend $60,000 on a high end Mercedes Benz, when a $200
              mountain bike will server your needs. -dans
                \_ isn't the original something like "don't spend 10 yuan on
                   a silver chopstick when a wooden one would do"?
                   \_ But a wooden chopstick can't detect posion.
                   \_ But a wooden chopstick can't detect poison.
              \_ $60k won't buy a high end MB.  Just FYI.
              \_ except you will survive an auto accident w/ a benz
                \_ go away, troll
        \_ Do you need the monitor? --dim

12/11   Does anyone know of a UPS that has software for MacOS X. I'm looking
        for something that will shutdown the computer gracefully when the
        power goes out. I don't need all the fancy power metrics, etc.

9/17    Ok, so basically, no one has an answer to what we should do other
        than take some sort of military action?  I include assasination and
        elite strike force hit-squad activity as military action and doing
        anything to oust a foreign government as a form of pseudo-military
        action as well.  I'm honestly surprised the motd is so pro-war.
        \_ I wonder, given how badass the US is at cryptography, about
           mounting a massive cypher attack with the intent of identifying
           bin Laden's bank accounts and freezing them. This would be
           very illegal but perhaps a good use of the NSA and its talent.
           --ulysses
        \_ Hit squads are NOT military action. such things don't endanger
           the general population, nor do they put large numbers of troops
           at risk. Not that I'm advocating either way. I'd like us to commit
           thousands of troops unilaterally to fighting any and all countries
           where Osama could be, as long as it's not a big scary country like
           China or Russia.
           very illegal but perhaps a good use of the NSA and its talent.
           --ulysses
        \_ Hit squads are NOT military action. such things don't endanger
           the general population, nor do they put large numbers of troops
           at risk. Not that I'm advocating either way.
           \_ I stand corrected.  I shall clarify.  Rather than "military"
              let me use the phrase, "non-violent".  Taken that way, what I
              said still stands.
        \_ With the support of some Muslim allies, destroy the Taliban and
           Al Qaeda from the face of the earth.   Restore the exiled king
           Al Qaeda from the face of the earth.   Restore exiled king
           as head of a Constitutional monarchy and rebuild Afghanastan
           as we did in Japan and Germany after WWII.
           \_ I like this idea too, but I think it would be costly.  We
              must be prepared to suffer some losses.  However, I do not
              think the Taliban had the support of the people the way
              Ho Chi Minh does.  The Taliban are more like the Khmer
              Rouge butchers when the Vietnamese invaded.
           \_ potential, but doesn't this remind some of the Bay of Pigs?
           \_ a political solution
           \_ I like this idea too.

9/17    Besides the standard text books what are some good books to read
        to prep for Computer Science GRE? Thanks.
        \_ "Practical Internet Security", P. Nunez
        \_ no, seriously, you want to read some 150.  Altho strong reports
           were to the contrary, i was a bit annoyed to find multipart
           150 things in the GRE i took last fall - paolo
           \_ and a fall it was! you also want to look at sipser's book,
              which i think is the 174 book.
              \_ 172, not 174. but yea, sipser is damn good. -alexf

9/13    I've seen reuters reports on GE giving 10 million and CSCO giving 6
        million to aid new york.  Where the hell is Bill and MSFT?  Can't
        spare change?

1460    "In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
         Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
         while the fortress endures,
         the great leader will succumb,
         the third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
                -Nostradamous
        \_ I heard from KCBS that Sun Micro is donating too.
        \_ M$ is too busy updating its Flight Simulator to include four new
           destinations.
           \_ WTC, Pentagon, White House and AF1?
              \_ WT1, WT2, PTG, and PBV (Pittsburg Vicinity).  AF1 will require
              \_ WT1, WT2, PTG, and PBS (Pittsburg Suburb).  AF1 will require
                 a later version that can support a moving destination.  M$
                 does not officially support WHS because it has not been
                 recognized as a flight target in real life, yet.  But its
                 engineering and marketing teams are eagarly waiting for any
                 engineering and marketing team is eagarly waiting for any
                 changes in situations.
                 \_ 'Engineering Strikes on Civilan, Military and Political
                     Targets: A case study of the WTC, Pentagon and White
                     House Attacks' Laden et. al. 12 Sept 2001 Univeristy
                     of Kabul Press should be of great help to M$ engineering.
        \_ its been debunked already.  forgot the link.
              \_ WTC, PTG, WHS and PBS (Pittsburg Suburb).  AF1 will require
              \_ WT1, WT2, PTG, and PBS (Pittsburg Suburb).  AF1 will require
                 a later version that can support a moving destination.
        \_ We are working hard to update M$ Flight Sim and integrate it
           into the Arabic Edition Windows XP - Bill G.

9/12    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21626.html - go fbi go!
        \_ Damn.  The CIA is so lame now that the FBI needs to take over its
           jobs?
           \_ Hmm.  I'm not sure that this is what that article implies.  The
              FBI is supposed to be handling domestic crime -- including
              terrorism, espionage, etc.  The CIA wasn't mentioned in the
              article at all.
              \_ SIGINT is the responsibility of the CIA/NSA. Carnivore
                 is SIGINT.
                 \_ Yes, but this shouldn't preclude the FBI from having
                    some measure of autonomy.
                    some measure of autonomy.  The fact that the FBI wants to
                    do surveillance without being dependant on the NSA/CIA
                    should not be alarming.
                    \_ But the apparent fact that the CIA is not doing it
                       should be alarming.
                       \_ True, but this article doesn't address that driectly
                       \_ The FBI is doing the grunt work (install/setup)
                          on behalf of the agency. You have to understand
                          the way that spooks work. They never do anything
                          directly.
                       \_ True, but this article doesn't address that directly
                          or implicitly.  The focus of the article seemed to
                          more about infringement of personal privacy...
                          be more about infringement of personal privacy...

4/9     Have you done enough leveraging, modularizing, and enhancing to
        provide IT professionals with industry-leading world-class solutions
        built from the ground up to address mission-critical enterprise
        e-business challenges brought by the internet today?
        \_ Why, yes I have!
           \_ So, if I tell you I did that stuff, would you feel a strong
              desire to invest in me? How about if I said the shit was scalable?
              I'm leveraging my ass off here.

3/15    From the FreeBSD question below:
        xmms has a CD Audio plugin, but I can't figure out a way to actually
         play a track from an audio CD.  Any tips?
        \ Configure the plug in to look at /dev/acd0c and /cdrom.  Then
          load-dir /cdrom, and it will play the tracks.

12/12   http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/survivor.htm
        \_ nice.  i hope trend reznor won't fuck up the score too badly.
        \_ I hope Liv Tyler plays Fertility.
        \_ nice use of hidden text on his site.  You gotta respect an author
           who actually is willing to discuss subplots with people and
           give our actual answers (instead of leaving it up to the whims
           of the English majors).
        \_ they should pick a different movie name, stupid people will think
           it's 7 ppl trapped on an island.
        \_ Just what I needed.  Another Hollywood venture by coked out kids
           trying to get deep about society.

11/22   How much is cab fare, approximately, from Berkeley to SFO?  also,
        does anyone recommend a particular taxi company?  --chris
        \_ don't know about cab fare, but berkeley to SFO (airport)
           on the east bay shuttle (the blue and yellow vans) was
           10-15 bucks in march.
                 \- without a lot of triffic it's probably going to be like
                    +$50. it will be really expensive. --psb
                    \_ for the shuttle or taxi? AFAIR the shuttle was
                       fixed rate based on distance.
                        \_ taxi is obviously more expensive
           \_ I want taxi.  I don't want to deal with shuttles.  At this point,
              it looks like the price of a taxi to/from will be the same as
              parking my car in longterm parking (which is full now)
              Does anyone have a taxi co. they'd recommend? --chris

5/18    On a DOS PC, how can software either detect if the floppy drive motor
        is spinning, or turn the motor off?  Is there BIOS API for that?  If
        not, how do I talk to the hardware directly.  Any pointers?  Thanks.
        \_ There's the "hand on case" interface as well as the "sonic sensor"
           unit built in to most end user units.
           \_ Huh?

5/15    My motherboard stopped booting because I plugged in an ISA
        modem accidentally while the mb was still on.  Am I screwed?
        \_ Sounds like it.  Maybe you got lucky and only blew the BIOS or
           something like that.  An old MB might have a keyboard fuse.  Get
           lucky.  Be more careful next time.
        \_ Try taking out your ISA modem.  And see if the machine boots
           \_ I took out the memory, CPU, video card, and power supply and
              they work in a separate machine; it's just the board.

4/19    I have NT on my Desktop at work, i would like to get to it, add
        files/get files etc.  IT has a WebServer running on it and i can
        get to it from home via http.  I can put whatever i want on its
        web page (and prob. cgi too) but i can't install anything as i
        don't have the administrator login.  What html/java/cgi can
        i put up there to maximize my controll from home.
        (I also don't want to/can't program the stuff myself so a "remote
        admin" type package i can just put on there would be best).
        \_ it should be IIS 4.0, if so, there is a admin website through
          a different port. start the IIS MMC console at work, figure out
         the port from the properties. Should be under NT Option Pack Menu,
         Internet Information Server, MMC admin (if NT server).
        \_ Do you need admin rights to install vnc?  If not, that might work
           for what you want to do--<DEAD>uk.research.att.com/vnc<DEAD>  -John
        \_ Install one of those keyboards that captures keystrokes then
           fabricate some reason for the sysadmin to login.

10/4    So I need a haircut, and I decided not to forgive the place I
        usually go for screwing up my last haircut.  What's a place in
        Berkeley that y'all have found satisfactory?  --PeterM
        \_ Narcissus - Ask For Kim.
        \_ Scissors/mirror.  Alternative: female companion/scissors.
           \_ what's wrong w/ a guy cutting a guy's hair?  homophobe...
                \_ OH HELP HELP! I'M A BERKELEY NATIVE AND I'M BEING OPPRESSED!
                   SOMEONE DIDN'T MENTION MY PARTICULAR SEXUAL DEVIANCY AND
                   THUS *MUST* BE A HOMOPHOBE!!!!  QUICK!  SMEAR THEM!!!!  The
                   answer to your pre-biased question is: nothing.  Why don't
                   you suggest it yourself instead of slinging mud?  Or maybe
                   you'd be happier and feel like more of a Victim if I said,
                   "I'd never ask another guy to cut my hair, only faggots cut
                    other guy's hair and I don't want AIDS from some scissor
                    wielding faggot!".  Feel more victimized now?  Happier?
                    \_ I don't care about the race, sex, sexual orientation,
                       or religious creed of my haircutter, so long as
                       they're good at their job, don't charge too much, and
                       don't believe in sacrificing customers to their God.
                       Could someone please recommend a satisfactory
                       haircutter?  --PeterM
                       \_ How'bout that place by $1.11 Chinese food near Un3

8/23    RHAT is now at 66, after peaking at 90. Wel, whaddya know.
        Bite me, mister "internet IPO" pessimist.
        \_ That's great!!! now get back to your keyboard.
        \_ Yeah, so what?  What point are you failing to make?  That many
           tech ipos skyrocket and then drop back like a flying rock after
           all the quick-kill players bail out leaving all the folks who
           bought at 66+1/8 or higher screwed who thought they'd be rich
           when it climbed into the hundreds like amazon or something?  Now
           that it's lost 1/3rd it's value watch it continue to drop over
           the next 6 months.  Pretty much this is a giant "yawn" situation
           you're raising.
           \_ I'm making the point that this is exactly what I said it would
              do two weeks ago, when someone said "who really knows what
              this thing is going to do?"
              this thing is going to do, this internet stuff is all random."
                \_ two weeks ago you did not say, "RH will climb to 90 and
                then lose 1/3rd of it's value in 3 days."  No one said, "who
                really knows ... is all random".  Stop altering the past to
                boost your ego.  If you're such a genius, why are you still
                fucking around on the motd instead of buying your own
                island?  When you're fabulously wealthy from your internet ipo
                fortune you'll have something to talk about.  In the meantime
                you're just another wannabe who falsely thinks he knows
                something.  It dropped like a rock, fool.  It'll continue
                dropping.
                boost your ego.
                \_ stop rewriting the past to boost your OWN ego.
                   If you weren't reading the motd every second, then
                   shut the fuck up, instead of making absolute claims
                   like "nobody said that"
                        \_ If it didn't make it into the log, it wasn't in
                           the motd long enough for anyone to read and
                           therefore doesn't count.
                        \_ The above about making it into the log says it all.
                           If it was only there for a few seconds, it wasn't
                           said.  It's still unbelievable that you said RH was
                           going to hit 90 and then drop back to 66.
                           \_ to be more specific, I said "reach at least 90,
                              then stabilize around 60-70"

4/30    A reminder: Linus Torvalds speaks today at "Web Rush: The Challenges
        of the Network Society", starting 1:00p in Pauley Ballroom (upstairs
        in MLK).  There are other speakers in the conference too, mostly on
        access to technology, and I don't know the order of speakers. -- schoen

3/12    Several junior programming openings in San Francisco (e-commerce
        web development).  You should know some html and javascript and
        be familiar with Windows and Unix, but being able and willing to do
        a little bit of everything is more important than deep knowledge
        of specific platforms.  (We also have some senior openings which
        need more depth).  For info see http://www.transactor.net or
        email me.  --phr

2/19    Anyone heard anything about an "internet tax" allegedly being
        debated in congress and allegedly set to equal the cost of
        "one long distance call" (whatever the hell that is) each time
        you connect to the internet?
        \_ http://www.urbanlegends.com

2/10    Monty Python film fest tomorrow(Saturday) at UC Theatre.  Show
        up at 7:30 to make the spam toss and stay for a second monty
        python film at 9:30.  Throw spam at the person of your choice.

[Long discussion of how much of a twink theodore is and why everyone
on soda hates him deleted]
        \_ Why don't you just join hkn, you facist.
         \_ but it's SOOO much fun to oppress theodore because he
            whines and threatens so much. I think I'll keep doing
            it for a long time.
          \ me too!
           \_ Me Three!!!!

5/13    A 40ish non-computer-literate friend of mine is looking for a
        relatively cheap way to get internet email access in Sacramento.
        I have no experience with any commercial services.  Any
        suggestions?  -runes
        \_ Get netcom.
        \_ Get a life!
        \_ Get laid!
        \_ Is a non-computer-literate the same thing as a computer-
           illiterate?
           \_ computer illiterate implies stupidity...
              \_ how politically correct!
        \_ How about through Sac State U.?
        \_ Go to a junior college you stupid 40ish computer illiterate!
           \_ Go back to fourth grade to learn to spell before you go
              knocking people who are probably smarter than you could
              possibly imagine, you pathetic fool... get a life.
        \_ Go to UCLink h0zer!