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 2002/3/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:24150 Activity:very high 3/18 Can someone remind me what is required to prevent programs like less, for example, from sending their output to a "separate" screen that gets erased when the program is killed, as opposed to just on the normal stdout terminal like, for example, ls? Thanks. \_ you must not have taken e190 yet. \_ ugh... typos corrected. I assume that's what you were talking about? ...and by the way, I'm L&S CS. \_ You passed Subject A? \_ I passed out of it with my awesome AP English score. boo-ya, bee-otch. \_ Clearly the difficulty of the AP exam has declined in recent years, "boo-ya, bee-otch". \_ I took it in '96, biznatch. boo-fuckin-ya. \_ Like I said. "... in recent years". Anything from after the time they changed all the tests and dumbed everything down so you could still get a high score to preserve your precious self-esteem without taking a double dose of prozac doesn't count as a serious academic success. \_ I was joking and you're a complete dweeb. \_ Your best bet is less -X, although YMMV depending on your terminal's termcap entry's quirks. -alexf \_ if you use xterm, add this to your Xdefaults or wherever you incant X resources: XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true \_ It's all black cats and cast iron pots at midnight under a full moon.
 2002/3/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:24148 Activity:high 3/18 I'm looking for research done on symmetric multiprocessing. Particularly as it applies to networking. Anybody know if anything \_ Bingo! has been done in this area? Thanks. \_ why smp? is there some particular characteristic of networking that makes smp more applicable than say asymmetric mp or some kind of message passing distributed processing? or did you just slap two buzz words together randomly? \_ I vote for random buzzword slapping. Possibly for a report to some PHB. \_ does the OP mean symmetric multithreading (smt)?
 2002/3/17 [Uncategorized] UID:24143 Activity:nil 3/17 Napkins at Togo's read: "Congratulations Victor Nunez, 2001 sandwich making champ!" Any relation to Philip Edward? \_ cousins. \_ Trying to cozy up to get more 'special sauce' in your togos?
 2002/3/17 [Uncategorized] UID:24141 Activity:nil 3/16 Own a gun? Then don't try to buy a Dell: http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/174830.html
 2002/3/17 [Uncategorized] UID:24139 Activity:moderate 3/16 Chialea, where are you going next semester? \_ to bed, with yermom \_ just to make you feel better, I didn't make it to any of the top schools. Last week was horrible, 3 rejection letters in 2 days. \_ "I" who? \_ Duh.
 2002/3/16 [Uncategorized] UID:24128 Activity:low 3/15 Rule against us and windows is history: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33198-2002Mar3.html \_ Don't do us any favors, microsoft.
 2002/3/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:24125 Activity:moderate 3/15 Is there some way to get into JavaOne for free by being a volunteer? \_ Its not hard to get into JavaOne for free with a little "social engineering". Security wasn't too tight last year. \_ If you work for a company exhibiting then the answer is yes.
 2002/3/15 [Uncategorized] UID:24124 Activity:nil 3/15 i hereby retract my insult to newark. they finally accepted my returned parts.
 2002/3/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:24117 Activity:high 3/14 What is this I hear of a alumni block? If the alumni accounts are going to get turned off, can we get some warning in order move our files and send out email addr changes? \_ the motd will suck ass without our brilliant and witty cynicism. \_ where'd you hear this? \_ on the motd, just now. \_ and you took it seriously? I think ur acct deserves to be off. \_ My account is turned off. Why isn't yours? Maybe you're next.
 2002/3/14 [Uncategorized] UID:24113 Activity:nil 3/14 Hey, Isreali apologists, what do you think of their targeting hospitals and ambulances, including the Red Cross? \_ what other targets hve they?
 2002/3/14 [Uncategorized] UID:24104 Activity:nil 3/13 man cal
 2002/3/13-15 [Uncategorized] UID:24101 Activity:high 3/13 I'm writing a program called diff_tex which takes 2 tex files, OLD and NEW, and produces a version of NEW with changes highlighted in some manner. At first I tried putting \begin{bf} and \end{bf} enclosing lines where changes had occured but this can cause problems inside equation, align, or tabbing environments. Does anyone know of a way to highlight something (bold, italics, red, whatever) such that it will work in most latex environments? Thanks. -emin \- i am not sure what you are setting out to accomplish but i am not sure it is feasible. i mean tex can be a full blown language and just looking at text diff probably wont cut it. e.g. if macro are redefined etc. --psb \_ put boxes around it? \_ Do you mean with \fbox? The \fbox command seems even less robust than other things like \begin{bf} ... \end{bf}. Are there tricks for making \fbox robust? Thanks. -emin \_ I think green boxes with reddish brown flowers on a bed of darker green grass or maybe clovers.... \_ We started out with boxes but they're too much work. We've settled on good old fashioned, herbicide-sucking turf. \_ We started out with boxes but they're too much work. We've settled on good old fashioned, herbicide-sucking turf. \_ Maybe a nice red brick pathway lined by dasies would put the right touch to it. \_ Hmmm. That's not a bad idea. We'll just have be careful not to mow the flowers when we mow the lawn. Maybe putting in a wire border high enough to stop the fender... \_ Well the flowers go "back" a bit from the edge so it'll be hard to mow the flowers by mistake. You only need about 6 inches of clearance between the edge and the plants. Good luck with it! Post pics when you're done. \_ I don't know any tricks for \fbox. What if you just delimited all changes with special characters? e.g. ***** something that was changed ******
 2002/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:24100 Activity:nil 3/13 Post 9/11: Are there still bomb threats at Berkeley? Evans Hall? \_ Hopefully.
 2002/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:24099 Activity:nil 3/13 "SPECIAL OFFER: For a limited time only, you will receive a FREE personal brass hookah with the Ultimate Herbaceous Intro Offer as our gift to you. This hookah has a retail value of $25.00." I'm *sooo* glad that domain ownership records are public. Sure this got pre-filtered into my crap folder but really.... 2017/11/24 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular  11/24  2002/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:24095 Activity:nil 3/12 Restored. Why do people bother?  2002/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:24093 Activity:high 3/12 is there something can be done with the following? Obviously it's an hoax/fraud. Is it important enuf for the FBI to follow? \_ Don't we have enough spams and scams already? Do you have to put that on the motd? Get a life. \_ see you freak'n asshole, people wants to read it. YOU should go get a life instead of sitting there editing other's mesg. why are you so fuck'n anal you dumb shit! =D \_ am i really really dumb, or did the above poster not post anything? \_ it was edited \_ then un-edit it. i want to read it. \_ it was just the nigerian scam with a minor twist \_ is that the thing where someone says they need to sneak something like$50M into the country? ...or am I thinking of another spam/scam. \_ Yeah it was something like that.
 2002/3/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:24083 Activity:nil 66%like:36272 3/11 restored, as usual.
 2002/3/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:24080 Activity:nil 3/11 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8927-2002Mar11.html Walk like an Egyptian!
 2002/3/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:24079 Activity:moderate 3/11 does anyone get this riddle, I don't. "what grows up while growing down?" answer: a goose. \_ This took me a while. "down" is a term for feathers of a young bird. --PeterM \_ I thought maybe the op was trolling, badly... \_ oh that kind of down. thanks. and no trolling here. -op \_ "A tree," also seems to work since the roots grow downwards, but I think your answer is better. -emin \_ What was the answer to te "what is wrong with this picture" puzzle the other day in the MOTD? The picture with the table and chair with the screaming face? \_ nothing wrong with the picture. the gag is that you're looking so intently for a flaw that doesn't exist that the screaming face scares the living shit out of you.
 2002/3/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:24078 Activity:nil 3/11 http://people.debian.org/~branden/official_motto.jpg
 2002/3/10-11 [Uncategorized] UID:24067 Activity:moderate 3/9 To the person who asked about a remote for locating glasses and keys etc. This months sharper image has a product you might be interested in on pg 13 or 14. \_ I want something like this for my cell phone. \_ I'm guessing you want this if you have your cell phone off and you can't locate it.
 2002/3/8 [Uncategorized] UID:24062 Activity:nil 3/7 Tanya & Paula boxing photo. Because this is motd quality news. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020307/168/185qk.html
 2002/3/7 [Uncategorized] UID:24051 Activity:nil 3/7 is there a way to get what's posted to http://ucb.org.csua sent to my inbox? \_ subscribe to csua@csua?
 2002/3/7 [Uncategorized] UID:24047 Activity:nil 3/6 http://www.malepregnancy.com The domainname speaks for itself. \_ it's a hoax, of course. \_ http://www.rabbittest.com
 2002/3/6-7 [Uncategorized] UID:24039 Activity:kinda low 3/6 Simon coasting to easy victory! \_ ? \_ It's official. Simon won.
 2002/3/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:24023 Activity:high 3/4 M$says that removing exploder will be a death blow: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33198-2002Mar3.html \_ They might have to pull their systems off the market....and develop new ones! Think of the market share they'd lose as their competitors steal market share! Right... no competitors. Well, but people _need_ a new product! Look at how many people are still running Win 98! Oh wait... wrong way. Um. \_ On good hardware it would take an hour to recompile using the -D NO_CRAP switch. \_ VC++: Error: #define NO_CRAP: unsupported! \_ It's coming in a future version. Just keep buying MS!  2002/3/3 [Uncategorized] UID:24019 Activity:high 3/2 Anybody have a good link for free ringtones? \_ Ericsson or Nokia? \_Nokia... \_ what is wrong with you ringtone people? it's completely stupid and obnoxious. Please make it stop.  2002/3/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:24016 Activity:nil **/** Restored. Dont be stupid. 'rm' is not the smart way to clean the motd. If you don't like it, don't read it.  2002/3/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:24010 Activity:high 3/1 I'm looking for a product that will let me page my keys, like how you can page a cordless phone when you lose it around the house. Anyone know where I can get this? Particularly one that can control many little pagers. \_ http://www.greatbuyusa.com/category.asp?category=5 It responds to a whistle. \_ too bad whistle is on key chain \_ the transceive that you'd have to attach to your keys would probably be pretty bulky and make this whole endeavor not practical. \_ It wouldn't have to support long ranges. \_ worst case, you could tape your phone to your keys. So it is not like it has to be *that* bulky, because you can get pretty small cordless phones these days. \_ I also want something that I can attach to my glasses and Palm Pilot. Something that will cost me$50 for like 4-5 sensors + base. \_ http://www.greatbuyusa.com/category.asp?category=5 It responds to a whistle. \_ What would be cool is if they can make something like this, except the whistle would cause something in the key ring attachment to resonate, which gets turned into torque and make the whole thing hover in the air. \_ maybe brookstone or sharper image? \_ i remember seeing something like this for keys in "SkyMall", the ubercatalog they give you on airplanes to tempt you into buying stuff when you're bored out of your mind. \_ http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml?sku=SI567GRY shop away yuppie boy
 2002/3/1-15 [Uncategorized] UID:24009 Activity:nil 03/01 GM Mar. 14, 6:00, in 306 Soda; we intend to amend the constitution at this meeting. --Galen \_ you can't be bothered to spell out "General Meeting?"
 2002/3/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:24007 Activity:moderate 3/1 is there a good electronics dictionary/encyclopedia online? \_ I've found FOLDOC to be pretty handy: http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc \_ just wanted to substantiate that claim... I've learned alot from FOLDOC over the years.
 2002/3/1 [Uncategorized] UID:24006 Activity:high 2/28 Another end-of-month URL: What's wrong with this picture? Took me about a minute to figure it out http://www.stonetable.org/files/whatswrong.swf \_ well, it's way over-sharpened, and uses too much jpg compression. The lighting is also difficult; it could use some studio lights to light the foreground and mute the effect of the bright sunlight in the window. I don't see a real focus of interest; it would be better composed as a smaller picture, perhaps by placing the flowers on the table at the intersection of thirds. -tom \_ I don't get it. Is the punchline the stupid scream? \_ So what is the answer? \_ Uuuuuh... whatever. \_ The wayboard.gif one was better (on the motd 1/12/2002) \_ Yup. http://208.178.180.118/gold/wayboard.gif \_ what's about the wayboard.gif? I just see a junk yard. what is it supposed to be? \_ it's the same thing. what's wrong with the picture. takes about a minute to figure out. \_ Try http://www.stonetable.org/files/diplomacy.swf
 2002/3/1 [Uncategorized] UID:24004 Activity:nil 3/01 Midnight... time for DBZ! Gohan's First Date!
 2002/2/28-3/1 [Uncategorized] UID:24002 Activity:high 2/28 Whacky. Got a recruiter calling from a place that doesn't seem to exist. \_ Be careful, its probably the feds checking if the wiretap is working \- wouldnt it be more likely to be your employer spying on you? \_ how do you know it doesnt exist?
 2002/2/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23996 Activity:high 2/28 how could that asshole who kidnapped/killed Danielle van Dam so vehemently deny that he's done it all despite the evidence. \_ It depends on what the meaning of "is" is. \_ He never used the word "is". \_ Ah ha! He must be innocent then! \_ Son, that's what we have trials and juries and stuff for. You want to do all trials in the oh-so independent media? Or maybe a nice lynching?
 2002/2/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23995 Activity:nil 2/28 Recession officially over. Find your own URL.
 2002/2/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23993 Activity:nil 2/27 What is the purpose of the flap in men's briefs? - guy who never had a dad \_ No idea. -has dad \_ so when the hooker's blowing you, the band doesn't constrict. duh. \_ they're used to increase drag and ultimately to increase the descend rate without picking up extra speed. \_ Am I supposed to put my penis through it? \_ It does beat the pull-down,whip-out method for saving the elastic, I imagine most guys prefer pd/wo. \_ even if you had a dad, would you ask him? At what age would you ask him? \_ it's a pocket for rolls of quarters. \_ never had a dad? You have two mothers and a genetics lab? Is the story of your conception and birth suitable for an xfiles episode? Is this a Messiah/Christ immaculate thing? \_ Just in case this is serious, it's to pee standing up without having to drop your pants or unbuckle your belt. \_ that is not exactly correct. It allows you to not have to drop your underwear, but unless you have a fly in your pants you still have to drop them. hence this feature is likely to be useless if you always wear sweat pants.
 2002/2/27 [Uncategorized] UID:23990 Activity:nil 66%like:24029 2/27 what propositions will you vote yes on? There's an election coming up? . 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 53 yermom
 2002/2/27 [Uncategorized] UID:23989 Activity:nil 2/26 http://atari.saturn5.com/~max thair tweenz!
 2002/2/27 [Uncategorized] UID:23988 Activity:nil 2/26 1@t1n n3v3r 3nd3d.
 2002/2/26-27 [Uncategorized] UID:23979 Activity:nil 2/25 return of ricochet http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/02/25/ricochet/index.html \_ Ricochet is not returning. It is dead. Move on.
 2002/2/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23976 Activity:nil 2/25 2.4.18 released! Go straight to your favorite mirror! \_ uh, why? \_ yeah, we might as well start posting Windoze patch updates as well.
 2002/2/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23974 Activity:kinda low 2/25 Doom. \_ #t \_ Doom. \_ Dwoom.
 2002/2/25 [Uncategorized] UID:23972 Activity:nil 2/25 i guess they flunked = http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/25/soldier.killed.ap/index.html
 2002/2/25 [Uncategorized] UID:23971 Activity:high 2/25 What happened to the program "vis"? I thought it was supposed to show the output of a program repeatedly. /usr/bin/vis "is a filter for converting non-printable characters into a visual representation"
 2002/2/25 [Uncategorized] UID:23968 Activity:high 2/25 YES! Cal is finally ranked! (AP No. 25) \_ what the hell are you talking about? \_ sounds like ncaa basketball \_ Jackass. We're AP No. 21. (ESPN #25) http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/rankings/ratings.html \_ So how was he wrong and deserving of "jackass"? Not like AP is better or more accurate than the ESPN/USA Today poll. And it's really about the RPI ratings when it comes down to the Tourney anyway. \_ He was wrong because he said we were ranked AP #25, and that is an incorrect statement. We are ranked AP #21. If he said that we were ranked #25, I would have simply added "21 in AP!" He gets the jackass title because I'm a jackass myself. Also, he gets it because he's not giving "us" the credit we're due. \_ The Coach's poll is widely seen as a joke this year, esp after Utah's guy was tossed for voting for a team with a .500 record. Just last week, ASU had more points than Cal and you can thank their having a vote for this. The polls are more revelent than RPI for seeding the top 25. \_ Dude! There's a new point release out! You know where to get it! Upgrade now!
 2002/2/25 [Uncategorized] UID:23963 Activity:low 2/24 Brian Harvey is listed in the Specail Thanks section of Serious Sam, the Second Encounter. Cool. \_ Yeah cool, your profs are playing FPS's all day instead of doing something that might improve your otherwise dismal education.
 2002/2/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:23960 Activity:kinda low 2/23 Requiescat in pacem, Chuck Jones. \_ Tha tha tha tha that's all, folks!
 2002/2/22-23 [Uncategorized] UID:23955 Activity:nil 2/22 The dangers of coffee. It really can kill you: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53567-2002Feb22.html
 2002/2/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23945 Activity:nil 2/21 How come Tara Lipinski didn't compete this year? \_ She turned pro.
 2002/2/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23942 Activity:high 2/21 anyone worked with/for james raby @ sgi -- is he a good programmer/mgr? \_ he's at sgi. isn't that enough? make that he's *still* at sgi.
 2002/2/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23941 Activity:nil 2/21 How do recycle companies handle paper envelops that have plastic windows? They're not having workers going through all the envelops and tear off the plastics, right? \_ Why don't you ask them and tell us?
 2002/2/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23940 Activity:high 2/21 Anyone heard of Wink Communications? What's their deal? Should I work there? \_ Are you employed? If not and they offered you a job, take it. \_ I worked at Geoworks when Wink spun off six or seven years ago. It was a division called Geoworks ITV before spinning off. Now it's still within walking distance from Geoworks. Don't know much about its prospect. --- yuen \_ Wink has been on the verge of hitting the big time since 97. They aren't any closer today than in 97. Think of it as yet another marimba.
 2002/2/21 [Uncategorized] UID:23930 Activity:nil 2/20 What does this idiom mean: "that's neither here nor there" ? \_ "That is not really related to the point I am making."
 2002/2/20-21 [Uncategorized] UID:23924 Activity:low 2/19 For the person who asked about stty yesterday. Try something like the following in your .profile, it might just solve your problem: case "$-" in *i*) eval /usr/bin/tset -sQ \?$TERM ;; esac
 2002/2/20 [Uncategorized] UID:23919 Activity:high 60%like:24816 2/19 Where's a good place to get posters of microprocessors? \_ 330 soda. take them from the walls (they're already framed) \_ Hi paolo! You like taking posters, don't you? \_ hi ilyas! \_ who is paolo? \_ Uid Formerly Known As Paolo is now pst@soda. pst ttyE8 128.32.134.119 Mon Feb 18 19:40 - 03:01 (07:21) \_ i don't think he logs in anymore
 2002/2/20 [Uncategorized] UID:23918 Activity:nil 2/20 go breathe elsewhere
 2002/2/19 [Uncategorized] UID:23915 Activity:nil 57%like:23907 2/20 I don't breath grossly much air, but, I tend to notice my chest expand after taking a breath - what can be done about this? I point this question to ppl like tom, or other pollution-conscious sodans. (i would like to know what exercises I can do to specifically keep my air from forcing my chest to bulge, or alternatively, training my muscles to tell me to stop breathing if the problem is I'm not noticing my lungs are full. \_ I suggest training with sealed plastic bags over your head. Start with a large bag and make them progressively smaller while you increase the length of each training session. Once you have fully mastered the advanced techniques, breathing won't be a problem for you anymore. I promise.
 2002/2/19-20 [Uncategorized] UID:23912 Activity:high 2/19 Does help@soda no longer work? My mails seem to go into a blackhole!! What the (&^%*& \_ Ask help@soda
 2002/2/19 [Uncategorized] UID:23908 Activity:nil 2/19 The point of screensavers (in response to a nuked thread): http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/savers.html
 2002/2/19 [Uncategorized] UID:23906 Activity:nil 2/18 poll: if the Canadians didn't whine, would they have gotten laid? yes: no: .
 2002/2/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:23902 Activity:high 2/17 Are there any reasons not to take unemployment benefits from the state? And what is the website to go to? \_ only if you're totally pathetic like me! - danh \_ You only get them for 6 months, and if you plan on being unemployed for a looong time, they'll go up next year in January. http://www.edd.ca.gov \_ Doesn't your 6 months reset after some period of time? \_ If you work 3 mo. it resets.
 2002/2/17-19 [Uncategorized] UID:23901 Activity:nil 2/17 Has anyone ever seen anything remotely decent at Subterranean Shakespeare (the basement of LaVals)? --scotsman \_ Never. If you want to impress your sophomore gf on a first date with how artsy you are this is a good place to take her for cheap. Most freshman aren't ready for artsy yet and juniors/seniors should know better than LaVals for theatre.
 2002/2/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23900 Activity:nil 2/16 http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/16/arms.usa.missile.reut/index.html Sigh... And we're still trying, why?
 2002/2/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23898 Activity:nil 2/16 I have 2 i.i.d. exponential r.v.'s, w/ f(x)= exp(-x). What is distribution of their sum, using convolution? I get f(z) = Integral(-inf,inf)[exp(-z)dx], where exp(-z) is a constant, so the integral is simply x*exp(-z), but limits from 0 to infinity is unintegrable. Help? Thx. -nivra
 2002/2/16-17 [Uncategorized] UID:23890 Activity:moderate 2/16 http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/02/16/microsoft.code.reut/index.html bullshit..as mush as i'm not that fond of microsoft's practices and products, this is totally unnecessary. \_ if they are going to make legal claims they cannot separate products from the OS, they need to be able to back it up by showing the source.
 2002/2/16 [Uncategorized] UID:23889 Activity:nil 02/16 Soda will be going down for a semi-urgent reboot/OS update at 1pm today. -root
 2002/2/16-17 [Uncategorized] UID:23888 Activity:kinda low 2/16 IT Geek Love on CL. http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/w4m/2923359.html \_ what net netwbie posted this? this has been going around for ages. \_ what net newbie posted this? this has been going around for ages. \_ More concretely, since '96 at least: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=55vtpl%249gk%40huffmanpc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl89367922d%26hl%3Den%26selm%3D55vtpl%25249gk%2540huffmanpc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM This thread was probably the source of the compiled version that appeared a couple of years later all over the place and is reproduced above.
 2002/2/16 [Uncategorized] UID:23882 Activity:nil B
 2002/2/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:23878 Activity:high 2/15 all, there will be a brief meeting FRIDAY FEBRUARY 15 6PM on the STEPS OF WHEELER it will be to discuss the airport workers activities and the other events on the list. please come. -rachel \_I'm confused. What exactly is the purpose of this? \_ Will the airport workers discuss hiring some people who speak english and are helpful and knowledgeable instead of stupid and rude? -John \_ Also, will the airport workers discuss hiring some people who just pick on old ladies and avoid confronting those passengers who look mean enough? \_ You can't racial profile. You must treat every 89 year old from Topeka the same as someone carrying a bomb and wearing an "Osama is my friend!" tshirt. \_ What the fuck!? Why should I be picked on just because I go to the gym a lot, and have a big build?! \_ 'cause the guards like to check out yerbod. \_ wtf are you talking about? are you pumping too many steroids? they damage your brain you know.
 2002/2/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23872 Activity:kinda low 2/14 http://www.recipe.com is gone? It was still there yesterday! \_ What is Ketchum Kitchen? I like http://epicurious.com - rory \_ http://www.recipesource.com baby
 2002/2/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:23866 Activity:high 2/14 Happy V-day! \_ FOAD. \_ Bah humbug \_ I'm suprised more people haven't said anything. Apathy? \_ too busy getting some or being in denial
 2002/2/13 [Uncategorized] UID:23854 Activity:high 2/12 Its been asked before and will probably be asked again... Where is a good place to get your car washed in the Berkeley area? (not Touchless on Oxford) \_ bucket. hoser. sponge. \_ that would work... but 1-2 hours of my time is worth ~$10 to me. additionally, I don't have one of those high power vacuums with attachments. \_ while I see your points, it won't take 1-2 hours and if you do it yourself, it'll be much better. Then again you need space and time. If you have a girlfriend you could have her help you and take photographs to post on the web.  2002/2/12 [Uncategorized] UID:23852 Activity:nil 2/12 Thank you dim for answering my questions on seeds. Good thing we have a motd archive or else I would have missed it. Why do people keep deleting my threads?  2002/2/12 [Uncategorized] UID:23847 Activity:nil 2/12 Bill, I believe this is killing me. \_You're sure that you could be a movie star? \_ Yeah, if I could get out of this place.  2002/2/12 [Uncategorized] UID:23843 Activity:nil 2/11 What are the qualifications for FAFSA? I've worked full time last year as a code monkey, how do I find out if I am eligible? \_ is your EFC (expected family contribution) based ONLY on last year's tax? Or could you somehow change it?  2002/2/11 [Uncategorized] UID:23838 Activity:nil 2/11 Long live ArsDigita!!! Stop censoring damnit  2002/2/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:23837 Activity:kinda low 2/11 What song is that playing in the new nike commercial where the skater keeps eating it?  2002/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:23832 Activity:nil 2/10 Suck my big black cock.  2002/2/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:23822 Activity:low 2/8 Why do government officials sometimes talk about something on condition of anonymity? If what they're saying is not supposed to leak out and they worry about being caught, they shouldn't even say that they represent the government, right? \_ Reporters generally contact them, not the other way around. \_ Sometimes they do that because letting the information be known is beneficial to them or to their superiors, or damaging to their adversaries , but the fact that they leaked the information would be a negative for them. Other times it's because the reporter is good and the person owes the reporter a favour. \_ i think it is a way the officials use to test an initial response from the public. same thing happens in the corporate sector.  2002/2/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:23821 Activity:nil 2/8 Can I use ispell in jove? if not, where is spell?  2002/2/8 [Uncategorized] UID:23820 Activity:high 2/8 Am I the only one who thinks this whole "Daniel Pearl: American Kidnapped" thing is just a hoax? By him. Does this make me unpatriotic? or just skeptical and jaded. \_ Just a moron.  2002/2/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:23819 Activity:kinda low 2/8 For adult illiterates, how long does it usually take them to learn how to read/write...months? years? \_ Most adult illiterates aren't illiterate in the same sense as a child who is learning from scratch. They're "functionally illiterate" which means they can read a few words or maybe simple phrases and probably know the alphabet but can't read and understand lengthy passages. Time to learn depends on why they're like that. Some learning disabilities are physical and not easily overcome but a poor education as a child won't slow them as an adult. \_ But a child has many more hours per day to learn something than an adult. An adult has to work, or do the housework, or take care of the kids, etc. \_ But the child isn't spending any more time than the adult and also doesn't have the cultural background an adult has to understand the context of the words. Given the same time an adult will become functionally literate before a child if the adult is illiterate due to poor education and not mental/physical disability that hinders learning.  2002/2/8 [Uncategorized] UID:23818 Activity:nil 2/8 Ali is 1/8th Caucasian. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&u=/nm/20020208/od_nm/people_ali_ireland_dc_2  2002/2/8-9 [Uncategorized] UID:23813 Activity:moderate 2/7 I know I can use "dig" to find out what foo is MXed to, but is there a way to find out every MXed to bar ? (at least on an authoritative name server ?) \_ host -t MX -l your-domain.com | grep bar \_ Thats like trying to find out every webpage that links to a particular page. There is no back reference, so you can't really know find this out. Sure, looking at access logs might give you all the links that were used, but you'd still have an unknown number of unused ones out there. \_ No. This is why relay-based-on-mx can be trivially spoofed.  2002/2/8 [Uncategorized] UID:23811 Activity:nil 2/7 I know this sounds dumb, but what is so cool about meditation? I mean if I really want to relax, I'd go to the beach or listen to KOIT. And if I want to rest, I'd take a nap. What can I get with meditation that I can't using other methods? \_ Meditation is not just relaxing, and while it can feel restful, you generally don't "rest". It's a focusing of your thoughts and your physical actions. It takes a lot of active thought and physical discipline to meditate well, and in turn meditation helps exercise both mind and body. But if you find listening to KOIT relaxing, you have bigger problems. --scotsman \_ Geez. Now I have to wonder if I've been masturbating well or poorly all these years. \_ "Using meditation as a relaxation technique is like using the Hope Diamond to scratch a phone message for your roommate on the bathroom mirror." --Tom Robbins \_ "Quoting Tom Robbins in the motd is like scratching an old 45 with a Hope Diamond." --Me  2002/2/8 [Uncategorized] UID:23810 Activity:nil 2/07 What is the relationship between KHZ and bitrate for streaming audio. e.g. to stream at 22.1 KHz what kind of a bitrate (Kb/sec) do i need? \_ I think if it's 8-bit sampling you need 22100 * 8 bit/sec. if it's 16-bit you need 22100 * 16. \_ bitrate = sampling rate * sample bit depth now go back to school.  2002/2/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:23807 Activity:nil 2/7 Grey Squirrels are overtaking Red Squirrels: http://www.nature.com/nsu/020204/020204-5.html \_ Good. I always hated those damned red squirrels.  2002/2/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:23803 Activity:nil 2/7 One day Spider Man will be reality! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20020121/en_usatoday/3789419 \_ "Spider webs kept in museums have lasted for 200 years" -- geez, they should try dusting more often!  2002/2/6-7 [Uncategorized] UID:23800 Activity:very high 2/6 Is it technically difficult to create a vcr that accepts both NTSC and PAL? Why the format difference? \_ 1) No. In fact, all major equipment makers sell such devices. They're called "multi-system" VCRs. They are more expensive than \_ 1) No. In fact, all major equipment makers sell such devices. They're called "multi-system" VCRs. They are more expensive than single-system VCRs, however, and since there is very low demand for multi-system VCRs, you'd have to order one using manufacturer's catalog. \_ They are in low demand here but in high demand in East Asian countries. Same for multi-system TVs. \_ Wanna watch legal Danish teen porn? \_ What is PAL?  2002/2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:23784 Activity:nil 2/5 Is anyone else made violently ill by the shitty music in commercials lately? Or does everyone have Tivo's?  2002/2/5-6 [Uncategorized] UID:23782 Activity:low 2/5 Size 9/9.5? climbing shoes free to good home; too small for me. -pld  2002/2/5 [Uncategorized] UID:23779 Activity:nil 2/5 the following was posted to the motd yesterday: " \_ antisymmetry is when you buy a house, ring, etc etc and then you get a divorce, pay alimony, lose a house, so on and so forth. -bmg" bmg?? wtf? did Bitter Divorced Guy get re-married? Say it ain't so!  2002/2/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:23766 Activity:insanely high 2/4 chialea did you get anything from gradsk00l$ yet? have you applied for FAFSA? \_ Unlike some people I wouldn't instantly blast anything off the motd I thought didn't belong but I am curious: why do some people post personal questions to the motd that are better asked in email? \_ My theory is its unrequited lust. Notice they're mostly for the women. \_ Hell, it seems to be mostly for chialea in recent times. \_ Well ok it's fanboy lust but posting anonymously isn't going to get them a date or even let the woman know which geekboy is interested. It seems pointless. It's not important. Just curious. --OP \_ who could possibly be intereested in chialea? \_ The manliest of men -chialea #1 fan #1 fan \_ Hi geordan. \_ Wait, am I manly or am I a meta-stalker? Or both? -geordan \_ She seems to enjoy the attention, so I guess that encourages things. \_ I think to preserve anonomity because (s)he is too embarrassed to be identified. \_ I think he's cool -chialea #1 fan #1 fan \_ no, I don't think any of them have told anyone anything yet (I hope!), and I'm not eligable for FAFSA. -chialea \_ Due to parent's zip code, right? \_ why not? criminal history? illegal alien? \_ I believe there are income requirements. I'm going for fellowships instead. -chialea \_ just curious, what ARE the requirements? \_ yikes! whatever happened to chialea's old picture on the web?
 2002/2/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:23761 Activity:very high 50%like:22238 2/3 Whats a good place around Berkeley to buy racks for my Carla? Any places to get used ones? (Ebay didn't have many). \_ what kind of car? \_ Nice rack, babe. \_ Craigslist. Yahoo classified. \_ What size cups you want?
 2002/2/1 [Uncategorized] UID:23748 Activity:nil 2/1 In "The Matrix" there's a line "Buckle your seat belt Dorothy, coz Kansas is going bye-bye." Is that a reference to some story book or something? \_ are you from taiwan? \_ he's probably never seen any movie before Star Wars \_ from china, more likely. \_ ref to "The Wizard of Oz" \_ You might have to explain to him what "Wizard of Oz" is. \_ I see. I know The Wizard of Oz, but I've never seen/read the whole thing. Thanks. \_ benco, is that you?
 2002/2/1 [Uncategorized] UID:23744 Activity:very high 1/31 Who do you think is the most annoying TV pitch man/woman these days: The Dell Dude CarrotTop (CallAtt) 7-Up guy Others? \_ Bob Dole \_ Hallie Eisenberg \_ orlando jones is funny. dell dude is just acting like a moron, carrot top actually is a moron. and hallie eisenburg, BURN IN HELL!
 2002/1/31 [Uncategorized] UID:23729 Activity:nil 1/30 .coop domains available. link:www.bayarea.com/c/breaking/docs/001887.htm
 2002/1/31 [Uncategorized] UID:23728 Activity:very high 76%like:23721 1/30 Is there a place in the Bay Area where one can buy a mobile (something you put up on the ceiling)? \_ you can probably find some nice ones at art museums. they may have calder ones at sfmoma. \_ What's a mobile? \_ opposite of a stationary \_lol very appropriate answer. \_ SFMOMA and Chiasso. You may also find some at random shi-shi stores. I'd go with the ones in SFMOMA, for better price and make. \_ I haven't tried this but I hear they're not that hard to make yourself, I've seen nice homemade ones made from wood and string and using shells, coins, found objects to hang on them. \_ I made one few years back while working at a computer lab. The entire thing was made out of paperclips. \_ make one! \_ if it's not good, make it big. if it's not big, paint it red.
 2002/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:23724 Activity:nil 1/30 How do I enable column-number-mode in my .emacs? I tried (require 'column-number-mode) and (column-number-mode) but neither seem to work properly. \_ (setq column-number-mode t) this is what I have in my .emacs. -mice \_ Thanks. This works perfectly.
 2002/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:23721 Activity:nil 76%like:23728 1/30 Is there a place in Berkeley where one can buy a mobile (something you put up on the ceiling)?
 2002/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:23710 Activity:nil 1/29 In design pattern, is it proven that iterators and visitor patterns are completely interchangeable? \_ they are completely different.
 2002/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:23709 Activity:low 1/29 I'm looking for an app. like AutoMate (http://www.unisyn.com/automate that runs on X. Can anyone suggest one? -crebbs \_ what's automate? \_ so does this app find you a soul mate or something? =)
 2002/1/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:23707 Activity:high 1/29 the wolf is just beginning to come! \_ Yes. Exactly. \_ He should pull out then. \_ Yes. Exactly. \_ not if it wants some little wolfies. \_ wolflets?
 2002/1/29 [Uncategorized] UID:23703 Activity:nil 1/28 Watch out for the "My Party" virus.
 2002/1/29 [Uncategorized] UID:23700 Activity:kinda low 1/28 http://planetary.org/survey Express your views about NASA's future. \_ this is discussed all the time. check the motd archive.
 2002/1/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23695 Activity:nil 1/27 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/pt/20020122/co/what_men_really_love_about_women_s_bodies_1.html The URL says it all.
 2002/1/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23694 Activity:kinda low 1/27 Anyone know a good business card printer in the area? Don't say vistaprint. --scotsman \_ Out of curiosity, why not vistaprint?
 2002/1/28 [Uncategorized] UID:23691 Activity:nil 1/28 new photos from my party! http://www.myparty.yahoo.com
 2002/1/27-2/16 [Uncategorized] UID:23688 Activity:nil 01/27 sshd has been updated. bugs to root.
 2002/1/27-28 [Uncategorized] UID:23687 Activity:high 1/25 Geeks-meeting-girls made easy. www.coincidencedesign.com \_ Cute, but, thankfully: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12236
 2002/1/27-28 [Uncategorized] UID:23686 Activity:high 1/25 RTFM @ M$: http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@www.hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20-%20HOWTO.htm \_ Nice try. Because we're just all too stupid to know what the @ in the URL means.  2002/1/27-28 [Uncategorized] UID:23685 Activity:high 1/25 wtf is the difference between an "unlawful combatant" and a POW? \_ lawful combatants wear uniforms, have a chain of command, 'follow the rules of war'. Basically a member of a modern army in the sense that countries have armies. No country? No army? unlawful combatant. That's the basics of it. Go find the details online if you care more. \_ Alright, makes sense. So then why aren't they considered POW's? Seems unfair that the US captures them, labels them something random, just so they don't have to abide by the Geneva Convention. \_ lack of accountability to anyone other than themselves.  2002/1/27 [Uncategorized] UID:23681 Activity:nil 1/25 What is the best site for francophiles \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good \_ I think he means high end audio equipment. \_ you are generally correct. \_ soundstage is pretty good \_ http://www.sound.au.com  2002/1/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23680 Activity:nil 1/25 What is the best site for audiofilez \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good \_ I think he means high end audio equipment. \_ you are generally correct. \_ soundstage is pretty good \_ whoever changed "slavophiles" to "hydrophiles": that is so childish - original poster \_ You said "audiphile"! uh uh uh! audiophile!  2002/1/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23679 Activity:nil 1/26 do we dare 'take arms against a sea of troubles'?  2002/1/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23678 Activity:nil 1/25 What is the best site for audiophiles \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good \_ I think he means high end audio equipment. \_ you are generally correct. \_ soundstage is pretty good \_ whoever changed "audiophiles" to "pedophiles": that is so childish - original poster \_ You said "audiphile"! uh uh uh! audiophile!  2002/1/26-28 [Uncategorized] UID:23676 Activity:kinda low 1/25 What is the best site for pedophiles? \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good \_ I think he means high end audio equipment. \_ you are generally correct. \_ soundstage is pretty good \_ http://www.sound.au.com \_ dude, whoever tried to replace "pedophiles" with "audiophiles", you're really not sick  2002/1/26 [Uncategorized] UID:23674 Activity:nil 1/25 Is there still a difference between Star Office and Open Office? Who maintains each one?  2002/1/25 [Uncategorized] UID:23663 Activity:nil 1/24 quote of the day: "john walker loves amerika."  2002/1/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:23662 Activity:high 1/24 When people talk about 1st tier and 2nd tier schools, what exactly does that mean? Does first tier mean top 10, 2nd tier top 20, and so on so forth? \_ I will now offer a working definition: Tier one is the set of grad shools that do not have some significant difference between themselves and the best school(s) in the field. Tier two schools have some significant way that they are not as strong as the tier ones , but are roughly on the same plane, and still good. how big these sets are depends non how fine a distinction you look at. I would say that in physics, there are about 6-10 first tier schools and mabye 15 or so second tier schools, depending on who you ask. \_ I use 1st tier to mean top 20 and 2nd tier to mean #20-50. \_ you're claiming that there is no formal definition? \_ "formal" requires an authority. i'm sure someone out there has declared themselves an authority and picked a definition. _very_ probably, there're more than a few such someones, and their definitions differ. \_ When using "tier" definitions, I would propose that there is no exact number, otherwise people would USE that figure. Tier is nebulous enough to mean top three to top 20. \_ some other people say top tier is top 10. 2nd tier is 10-20 or 10-30 or so. That's just another person's sense/opinion. \_ And who defines what # a school gets anyway? It's all subjective.  2002/1/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:23651 Activity:nil 1/24 What's a good WAP phone/service that'll work in Berk? \_WAP is ass.  2002/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:23648 Activity:nil 1/23 For something like an ansewring machine, where would it be cheaper.. BestBuy or Target? (a cheap one that is) \_ You can get a POS$14.99 answering machine almost anywhere. How important is it that you actually get your messages? \_ the cheapo ($20-30) AT&T branded solid state ones are nice.  2002/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:23645 Activity:nil 1/23 Death Match: Fry's Electronics vs. Best Buy. Any comparison?  2002/1/23 [Uncategorized] UID:23644 Activity:nil 1/23 Are Bengalis in general more vertical challenged?  2002/1/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:23640 Activity:high 1/23 After selling products for years that are "secure", M$ finally says they have decided to make their product secure in the future. \_ Well no, they only said they should choose security over more features. As 99% of their features are worthless bloat, expect the same of their security. --MS #1 Fan
 2002/1/23 [Uncategorized] UID:23638 Activity:nil 1/23 What a static motd lately... Where have all the trollers gone?
 2002/1/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23632 Activity:nil 1/22 Wall berlin closed. \_ and there was much rejoicing. \_ i loved wall berlin. strada is too... unfriendly
 2002/1/22-2/16 [Uncategorized] UID:23630 Activity:nil 01/22 Any network problems you have connecting to soda are likely the result of campus-wide bandwidth throttling imposed by CNS without warning.
 2002/1/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23628 Activity:high 1/22 Hello, here is an interesting problem [harder than the canoe-bowling ball one]: Given a circle with radius=1, can you draw a parabola s.t. the part inside the circle has length greater than 4? ok tnx. --psb \_ In how many dimensions? Do I get to warp space? -Q \- in flat plane, obviously. --psb \_ http://vadim.berkeley.edu/parabola.html (my solution) -vadim \- yeah, that's pretty good. how did you compute it? I think the problem has a different feel if you ask "yes or no" and you dont get a computer and have to do it "on the back of an envelope" vs "find the max length parabola" but you get a computer. --psb \_ Warping space was easier. You humans and your 2D math.... -Q
 2002/1/22-23 [Uncategorized] UID:23627 Activity:insanely high 1/22 A moment of silence for Peggy Lee who died from a heart attack in her home at age 81. Thank you. [stop deleteing this you soulless little bastard] \_ maybe others don't have the same appreciation you do. \_ and that's a reason to delete this? fuckin' life free geeks... \_ if you are really posting this to commemorate the death of someone you think is important, you should post a link to an elegey or write one yourself. it appears, however that you just posted it so you can feel superior to those who don't know about the same person you do. \_ Indeed... who the hell is Peggy Lee and why should we care? \_ ..... OK. Now, who was Peggy Lee? \_ A vocal jazz legend, I heard.
 2002/1/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23626 Activity:nil 1/22 I have the butt-rock opening to ST Enterprise stuck on permanent loop in my head. Somebody please kill me. \_ Gladly.
 2002/1/22 [Uncategorized] UID:23623 Activity:nil 1/21 The thing some troll posted about commemorating MLK day said it was taking place on the 16th.... Seeing as how today, the 21st, is MLK day wouldn't today be a better day?
 2002/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:23621 Activity:nil 60%like:23618 1/21 Anyone know anything about the profs teaching math 110 this semester? They are: Aschenbrenner, Pachter, Kantorovitz, Iliev, Wagoner, and the devil himself, Kahan.
 2002/1/21 [Uncategorized] UID:23619 Activity:nil 57%like:24429 1/20 What's the deal with the Soda/Cory network again?
 2002/1/19 [Uncategorized] UID:23607 Activity:nil 66%like:22658 1/18 What's the longest soda has ever been up? \_ I remember a 6month period
 2002/1/19 [Uncategorized] UID:23602 Activity:nil 1/18 solder wick or Soldapult?
 2002/1/18 [Uncategorized] UID:23601 Activity:nil 1/18 "Saudis May Ask U.S. to Leave, Washington Post Says" http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020118/ts/attack_saudi_report_dc.html Time to really invest on high efficiency automobiles. \_ When hell freezes over \_ After their corrupt pseudo government crumbles because they can't pay off their own extremists anymore we'll be setting up bases there with the post-extremist government's help. Time heals all.
 2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23588 Activity:nil 1/17 "Fashion Giant Armani Says He's Sick of Luxury" http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020117/re/life_fashion_armani_dc_1.html What kind of bullshit is that!?
 2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23584 Activity:kinda low 1/16 Just randomness. What do you think of this? www.evernet.com A twist on p2p. \_ If they can sell it they'll make a bundle.
 2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23577 Activity:nil 1/16 Is the stupid TeleBears on-line yet? -91 alum \_ yes \_ (unfortunately) -current student who has to put up with the incredibly moronic interface that is literally just a front-end to the telephone interface (there're stories of a mainframe actually punching in the digits on the other side)
 2002/1/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:23570 Activity:high 1/15 Ok then, pave the whole fucking place. Animals. http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=16376&PHPSESSID=374ebc9c04a005701a0c5c183f99751b \_ Yeah, at least civilized people have the decency to use tanks, gunships, and bulldozers.
 2002/1/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23566 Activity:high 1/14 Is the UFC (ultimate fighting championship) still around? \_ yes, you want to join? Skinny Geek Man \_ fight club
 2002/1/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23565 Activity:high 1/14 How do you snoop using WEP? Thanks. \_ Step (1): Google. Step (2): Read and follow instructions found.
 2002/1/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23563 Activity:moderate 1/14 www.celebcities.com/kimgin/story/baxter_barbitwins.htm Anyone saw that on TV? Was the fight real? Or was that some really amazing stunts? \_ Is Amy Lynn Baxter a porn star or just a nude star?
 2002/1/14 [Uncategorized] UID:23557 Activity:nil 1/13 Where can I find CSUA's SSI "Exec" policy? \_ /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf
 2002/1/14 [Uncategorized] UID:23556 Activity:nil 1/13 there's this giant 30th steel virgin mary sculpture visible from the freeway near santa clara, what is it? which church? what am i talking about? thanks - danh \_ Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church, off of 101 www.olp-faith.com/ya \_ You mean "Our Lady of Perpetual Power Supply"? --scotsman
 2002/1/14 [Uncategorized] UID:23555 Activity:nil 1/14 Men with big stinky pipes rule!
 2002/1/14 [Uncategorized] UID:23554 Activity:low 1/14 Is it too late to sell stocks for a loss and write it off? What's the last day? \_ Yes. AFAIK Dec 31.
 2002/1/13 [Uncategorized] UID:23550 Activity:nil 1/12 how do you get XV to strech an image to cover the entire root background? \_ xv -root
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