12/7    Attention. The new soda machine has a new hidden feature. The OS
        keeps track of /etc/motd.public edits. Welcome to the new soda.
        \_ details?
           \_ trolled :P
              \_ not really; that was more akin to "proof?" -pp

12/6    heh, emarkp provides as much entertainment as amckee. you guys
        make motd exciting again. good job and keep it up! -anon troller
        \_ Got a question for you emarkp. It's obvious that kchang has
           special statistical rules for calling names for different
           people. What made you think you're special and that he singled
           you out? More importantly, what's so bad about being called
           reagan more frequently than say, hitler or kimJongIl? Lastly,
           this is the internet and there's a lot of trash out there.
           Why are you so obsessed with his particular trash?
           \_ Sorry, my "anonymous troll" quota is filled for the week. -emarkp

12/6    Most oddly disturbing thread of the week award goes to the people
        debating Megatron vs. Optimus.

12/6    Click on "Watch The TV Ad" on the bottom left corner:
        http://www.honda.co.uk/impossibledream/window.html
        - direct: http://84.40.3.165
        Also a different commercial on diesels, click on "See the Film":
        http://www.honda.co.uk/change
        - direct: http://www.btaa.co.uk/winners2005/movs/HondaDiesel_Grr.mov

12/5    Wookieepedia:
        http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page
        \_ I read that Lumpy was implicated, but never charged in the
           assasination attempt on Queen Amidala.

12/5    X-Men 3 Trailer:
        http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/large.html
        This looks promising.
        \_ direct link:
        http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/x-men_3/x-men_3-pre_teaser_h640w.mov
        \_ I am MAGNETO
           \_ and according to Kais, you are.
              \_ If he tore up the BB instead of the GGB ; there would be irony
                 we could have a magneto vs terminator face-off..

12/5    Anyone else getting odd pauses every few seconds while connected
        to soda?
        \_ Yeah, there is some sort of packet loss on the network

12/5    So blogspot is irritating me.  I see a link to an archive and want to
        read the entries in order, but because they're posted recent-first, I
        have to scroll down to the end, then read top-to-bottom, then scroll up
        one post and read down again.  Is there any way to reformat them to be
        the latest at the bottom?
        \_ maybe there is a http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org extension
           that will help you out.

12/5    You hozers.  Stop getting soda's load above 1!  Thank you. - jvarga
        \_ Buy a faster machine!

12/5    Warning: contains King Kong spoilers
        http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
        \_ A spoiler for an 80 year old movie?
           \_ Obviously you didn't read the comic.
              \_ Of course not.  What if it really was a spoiler?

12/5    Anyone else having problems getting MH's packf to work?

12/3    To the long list of stuff that needs to be done... IMAP SSL seems to
        be dead. -aspo (oh and a sincere thanks to root for the new soda)

12/3    Send coke?  Maybe the motd.official should say "Say hello to my little
        friend!"

**/**   Ongoing quota work.  If you do not have a 25/30 mail quota and a
        200/225 home directory quota, please email root.
        \_ I reran edquota -p and everyone *should* be fixed, but there are a
           lot of user IDs that are just weird. - jvarga

12/2    Read the motd.official, you hozers.  - jvarga
        \_ Why are the SSH keys changing?
           \_ Because you SSH key memorizers were getting too smug. - jvarga
        \_ Mmmm... Cake...

12/2    Any physics major here?  When Maxwell found that the speed of light is
        the same to all observers, did he ever consider that it contradicted
        with Newton's laws?  I read some Einstein biography and it sounded like
        Einstein was the first to consider the contradiction.
        \_ Nice overwrite.
        \_ Sounds like you are confusing Maxwell with Michelson-Morley
           They postdate Maxwell who dies in 1879 and the MM experiment
           is in 1887.
           http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Michelson-MorleyExperiment.html

12/2    Che Ney:
        http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/graphics/fullsize400/chen_lg2.gif

12/2    My professor emailed a really short email asking if I like
        teaching. I do. However, if I reply yes, I may get delegated
        into long teaching tasks which may take time away from coding
        and research. If I say no, I'd be lying, which will probably
        hurt in the long run. By the way I've already fulfilled my
        TA requirements. What should I do?              -grad stud
        \_ The vaaaaaaast majority of those who go into academia hate teaching
           and lie about it, saying that they like it.  Lying the other way
           to the guy who's going to write your letter of rec seems like a
           bad idea if you have academic aspirations.  If not, than fuck it.
           He'll probably relate to you more if you hate teaching as much as
           he does.
           \_ Bullshit.  I know a hell of a lot of profs who like teaching.
              The key is to avoid the weeder/I'm just here because it is
              a major requirement courses.
        \_ Tell him yes you enjoy it but just can't fit any in right
           now because of all of the coding and research you need to do,
           so you're happy you were at least able to get in the teaching
           needed to fulfill your A requirements?  -John

12/1    http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Murtha_360_Nov302005.wmv
        http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Murtha_360_Nov30.mov
        Murtha discusses Dubya's recent speech with Anderson Cooper

11/30   The idea that you can unsubscribe from announce@csua is a myth.  Damn
        the neo-cons for configuring the mailing list wrong! -mrauser

11/30   UrbanDead question: when there are multiple Zombies at one
        location, how is it determined which one is attacked?
        \_ If you were whamming on one, it keeps attacking that one; I think
           it either goes after the one with the lowest HP, or tracks which
           one you were beating up (for example if you went for ammo) and
           keeps on going after that one.  Otherwise it's random.  -John

11/30   anyone here actually listened to Dubya's speech?
        \_ Not necessary.  We know what he's going to say anyway.

11/30   Topic to be determined later:
        \_ The Macarena

11/29   Are there any books for learning Mathematica that are more pedagogical
        and less expensive than the standard 100$ doorstop?
            \_ Borders had a couple of  Mathematica books, last I
               checked. there is always the web or the
               library. Personally, I found maple easier to learn; but
               not as powerful.

11/25   http://csua.org/u/e3u
        Vote for the worst corporate anthem - ever!

11/27   microsoft korean hip hop propaganda
        http://www.microsoft.com/korea/events/ready2005/vs_song.asp
        \_ I like the Nas sample ... "its yours". ha. too much

11/25   Who has the credibility now?
        http://csua.com/?entry=10376
        \_ are you the same guy whos dad married someone your age?
        \_ You don't.  Connection refused.
           \_ Well crap, it worked earlier today.

11/24   Meet the IT Gigolo:
        http://www.syncmag.com/article2/0,1895,1887761,00.asp

11/24   Anyone know where I can get the special screw driver that the
        phone company use to open their side of the interface box? It
        looks like a Hex shaped tool, but it has a circle in the
        middle so a regular hex tool doesn't work. I need to fix one
        small problem and they probably will charge me for it.
        \_ security hex or security torx.  "security".   frys sells
           them, as does digikey

11/23   [Pissy unappointed MOTD uncommented URL censor drivel will be deleted]

11/23   [commentless URL deleted]

11/23   [URLs without comment will be deleted]

11/23   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051122/ap_on_fe_st/naked_taser
        Police Hit Man in Genitals With Taser

11/22   Threat of federal charges against DeLay grows:
        http://csua.org/u/e2b (Financial Times)

11/22   What's the difference between a spa and a jacuzzi?  Thx.
        \_ Jacuzzi is a brand name.  -tom
           \_ I see.  Thx.

11/21   How much does McDonald's pay these days?  My wife found some old pay
        stubs from 1991 and she was making $4.40/hr.
        \_ They pay minimum wage or thereabouts. That will vary by state.
           \- The one at the Grand Canyon pays more.
           \_ They actually pay a little more than minimum wage. Not much
              more. In-N-Out has better wages.
              \_ I remember when In-n-Out first opened in my home town, a lot
                 of the high school kids applied because of their high pay
                 (something like 7.75/hr back in 93-94?)  Those who did get
                 the job ended up hating it.  But I don't think the ones I
                 talked to had any experience to compare with other fastfood
                 chains.
                 \- were they really polite outside of work?
                    \_ They weren't the politest of the group, but they
                       weren't exactly rude either.  I don't see what your
                       point is, though.

11/21   "This agency does not do torture. Torture does not work ... We use
        lawful capabilities to collect vital information and we do it in a
        variety of unique and innovative ways, all of which are legal and none
        of which are torture." -CIA director Porter Goss (Nov 21, 2005)
        \_ That depends on what your definition of sex ... er ... torture is.
        \_ I did not torture that prisoner, Mr. Mohammad.
        \_ Torquemada called it "Restoring The Faith." Perhaps the CIA
           has a similar euphamism.
        \_ Torquemada called it "Restoring The Faith."
        \_ I hope you still buy into the AI B.S. when your life is on
           the line.
           \_ I hope you still buy into the freeper B.S. when your life is on
              the line.
              \_ I can shoot back. Can you?

11/20   <+80 col line deleted>
        \_ Yeah, typing that was much easier than !!fmt 78 79^M
        If this is true, then who shall lead the heroic anti-BushCo forces now?

11/18   Laser "guided" pool cue:
        http://tinyurl.com/d3xtc (hammacher.com)
        \_ So... it shows you a dot for where you're aiming the tip.  That's
           not all that useful.  I think a $50 cue w/out a laser would improve
           one's game much more than a $50 cue with a laser.
           \_ seconded.  poor pool is rarely a problem of not knowing where
              you're supposed to be aiming.

11/18     ____          ____                      _
         / ___|  ___   | __ )  ___  __ _ _ __ ___| |
         | |  _ / _ \  |  _ \ / _ \/ _` | '__/ __| |
         | |_| | (_) | | |_) |  __/ (_| | |  \__ \_|
          \____|\___/  |____/ \___|\__,_|_|  |___(_)
          http://csua.berkeley.edu/~tom/theplay_long.ram
        \_ if fans go onto the field during a play, does that incur
           a penalty on the home team?  What's the official ruling?
           \_ One of the officials from that game who threw a flag on the
              play said that they could have called Stanfraud for "illegal
              participation"; the ruling on that would have been to award
              a touchdown to the Bears.  -tom
        \_ Tom, we want hi-rez!
        \_ was the 15-yd penalty applied before the kickoff?  So normally
           they kick-off from 40 yd line?

11/18   One of my favorite webcomics.  It's fairly new, you might as well
        read from the beginning.
        http://www.uglyhill.com
        \_ Is this true for any other ethnicities besides Pakistani?

11/17   Cost + 7% coupon for CompUSA good on Nov 19th.
        http://image.compusa.com/retail/collateral/35208_Cost7_ROP.pdf
        \_ So instead of their usual margin of 7% on near-loss-leader items,
           you'll be getting a margin of... 7%!
           \_ yeah, first thing off google I found
              http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/543437
              basically the stuff that's eligible is already at Cost + 7%

11/17   Heh, heh.  Volvo Baggins
        http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/index.html

11/17   Has anyone heard of Daikin? (http://www.daikin.com  I need to purchase and
        install an AC unit for a condo for myself, and I'm investigating
        good systems.  Daiking, though pricey, was recommended to me.  Any
        other recommendations?

11/17   Star Trek by Dr. Seuss
        http://www.seuss.org/seuss/seuss.sttng.html
        \_ This flashback brought to you by VH1's I <3 the 90s.

11/17   http://msnbc.com/modules/take3/nov/default.htm
        The 60s Kids, Part 1. "...the dark days... what brightened
        it? Sex, drugs, and rock n roll"

11/15   You can make up for the weakness in your argument by posting
        a blizzard of crap, but only to a certain extent.

11/15   Mousepad couch:
        http://www.rit.edu/~jpsdss/couch
        \_ Is that his office, or his jail cell?

(restored for your pleasure)

11/15   hi, i'm back!
        http://public.fotki.com/moregleny/gleny_girls/cheryl
        http://image50.webshots.com/150/6/17/77/495461777CBXbrB_fs.jpg
        \_ Horny girl!
        http://community.webshots.com/user/cutie84211

11/15   Just curious, what is this "mohammand" thing in the minutes with
        $1 in, four quarters out?
        \_ I don't really know, but I guess there's some guy name
           mohammand who comes around the office to buy (steal) candy.
           Everyone knows him, but he probably isn't actually a member of
           the CSUA.  I would recommend watching the friend he was
           bragging to very carefully as well.
        \_ Well this was a disciplinary measure so it shouldn't have been in
           the minutes at all, but getting Lin to write clear minutes is like
           squeezing water from a stone.  By the way, his name was "Mohammed"
           or whatever way he spells his name. -mrauser
           \_ That's true, but I'd still like to see a report on the first
              time someone kicks him out of the office.  You should put a
              pic up in the office too.

11/14   http://csua.berkeley.edu/~tom/theplay_long.ram

11/14   Is mail messed up or is it just my deodorant?

11/14   How much of your favorite caffinated beverage would it take to
        kill you?
        http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine
        Me:  282.99 cans of Dr Pepper
        \_ I'm pretty sure I could kill a man with a single can of Dr. Pepper.
        \_ You weigh 170 pounds?
        \_Me: 436 cans of DietPepsi, or rougly 40 gallons.  I thikn I would
              drown in them before the caffeine would be a problem.

11/11   Oh please...
        \_ Huh?

11/12   anyone have an oink membership with extra invites? thanks. - rory
        \_ check gmail
        \_ whats your e-mail?

11/11   Two Carolina Panthers cheerleaders arrested after bathroom tryst:
        http://tinypic.com/fneaza.jpg (canada.com)
        \_ old old old. but entertaining nevertheless!
           \_ While you comment "old" adds nothing whatsoever.
           \_ While your comment "old" adds nothing whatsoever.
        \_ We need to encourage, not punish, cheerleaders making out.

11/11   Leia's Metal Bikini:
        http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/members/whatsnew
        \_ Bonnie has the hottest body.

11/11   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9997566
        If loading/unloading 300 passengers take X hours, how long
        does it take to load/unload 555 passengers?

11/11   Put on your tin foil hats.  Or not.
        http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet
        \_ Yep.  That looks like a typical Media Lab project.
        \_ Note that they aren't using "tin foil", but aluminum.
           \_ I told you aluminum was the new tin foil a few weeks ago but
              you laughed me out of the Academy.  Well, I'll show you!  I'll
              show you all!!  Muahahahahhaaa!

11/10   Hey, I notice kchang's logger thing is working again.

11/10   http://grm.cdn.hinet.net/xuite/56/0c/12067215/blog_13366/dv/3913063/3913063.wmv
        Is she lipsycning? Or is she really singing?
        \_ Yes.

11/9    Judy Miller "retired" from the NY Times today.
        http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/business/09text-miller.html
        \_ Lucky for her it wasn't a forced CIA retirement.

11/9    jeez -- so many good motd links today, how am i supposed to get
        any work done

11/9    What are they doing here?
        http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=morning+musume+lizard
        \_ http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/07/japanese_tv_lizards_.html
           I love it when the subtitles write "He's going to Abe!" --abe
        \_ Looks like a sort of 'Fear Factor' in spite of what the link
           above says.

11/8    What does "Pied-a-Mer residence" mean?
        \_ I've never heard it before, but I'm guessing it's a pun on
           "pied-a-terre" which means something like second residence.
           "mer" is sea, so I'm guessing it's a secondary, seaside
           house.
           \_ Boat?

11/7    Stephen Colbert/Middle Earth fanfic:
        http://www.colbertnation.com/colbertnation/fanfic_blr1.jhtml

11/8    Anybody know how long the electronic voting talk tonight is
        supposed to run?  I'm trying to decide if I can make it to
        an 8pm event.

11/7    We've pretty well hashed over prop 77, what about 78 and 79?  (The
        competeing discount drug plans)  What's the motd opinion on these?
        To my cursory reading, 79 seems a bit heavy-handed, 78 seems
        kinda useless. I'm leaning towards no on both.
        \_ http://csua.org/u/dyf (L.A. Times endorsement, No on both)

11/6    anyone know of a nice ecommerce toolkit I can download/install/
        customize? A friend wants to set something up and I offered to
        help out. I figured I could just roll my own but he wants to
        use osCommerce which seems good -- but just wondering if there
        was anything better out there. thanks. -rory
        \_ Intershop?  $$$.  -John

11/6    \_ Anyone else watch the live West Wing debate? Pretty amazing.
           I've been checking some of the facts they mentioned in the debate
           and it seems to be mostly true. Although Mexico sometimes imports
           more oil to the US than Canada.

11/6    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they really
        aren't out to get you.
        http://www.bclu.org/stories/abuse_reports/PRC-JasonMeggs-20050626.pdf
        - danh

11/5    mehlhaff, can you please make your archiver more user friendly?

11/4    I bought a few books from Amazon external affiliates. Some of them
        sold New books and some of them sold Like New books. I'd like to
        find out which ones are which, but the UI Amazon presents no
        longer tells you after you made the purchase. How do I find out?

11/4    CNN: "Fiery riots spread beyond Paris".  Night 8.
        \_ Aren't they cute? They don't seem to involve much in the way of
           firearms. They just set lots of stuff on fire.

11/3    I miss you waner.  How's your love life?

11/3    An example of true leadership:
        http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/images/11/03/brown.emails.pdf
        \_ The man is a god! A true fashion god!
        \_ I like the "I should have done my announcement a week early."
           Wow.  Just... Wow.

11/1    Never mind, the best way is a for loop, as is often the case.

11/1    I am zipping files from a newtwork drive and I wanted the compressed
        files to go to a local drive say /data. I can do bzip2/gzip/whatever
        -c /mounted/drive/file > /data/file.gz, but there are LOTS of files
        and I'd rather just do a gzip --dest=/data /mounted/drive/*.  What's
        the easiest way to do this?

11/1    Besides trashing my leftover Halloween candies, what else can I do with
        them.  They are not in their original big bags, but still have their
        packaging.
        \_ Give 'em away to work buddies?  Eat them?  Package them up nicely
           and give 'em to your SO?
        \_ Put 'em in a big bag and drop them off at your local recreation
           center.
        \_ Put them in the fridge until the next Halloween.
           \_ When I empty my vacuum bag, what should I do with the
              contents? -OP
              \_ Sorry, I didn't know you eat dirt from your vacuum bag.
              \_ Put them in the fridge until the next Halloween.
        \_ Insert in mouth, moisten thoroughly, stick to parked cars.

11/1    As a review for editing the motd:
        - Set your tabstop to 8 chars, new threads start at that indent.
        - When you reply, use \_ or \- (hi psb!) to indicate who you're
          responding to.
        - Indent \_ using spaces to consume the least whitespace possible at
          the left.
        \_ Please indent with three columns like "\_ " instead of two like
           "\_".

11/1    Power just went out in SF Civic Center. Anyone hear a bang?

11/1    piss me off, people start to censoring motd again....

10/31   Something to think about (cartoon by Ann Telnaes)
        http://www.anntelnaes.com
        \- look at the difference in treatment between john walker lindh
           and his various non-white brothers in arms. ok it does seem like
           he got a pretty harsh sentence but 1. let's see how long he actually
           serves 2. he got quick access to the courts vs. the people the
           administration doesnt want to give a day in court ever 3. why is
           he being treated as an american citizen. what exactly more would he
           have needed to do to lose his american citizenship?
           \_ A better example is Jose Padilla who is an American citizen
              and is being held without charges. I think it's year 3 now.
              \- padillia is one of the people i refer to in point #2.

10/31   <deleted due to lazy formatting>

10/31   Anyone know of a website that lists the odds of getting
killed/wounded for a us serviceperson in iraq?

10/31   *KNEW* it, god damn, nominated another supreme court justice just to
        get people's eye off Scooter and Rove!
        \_ Here's a better conspiracy theory: Miers was just a feint to get
           people more ready to accept Alito.  I realize that doesn't
           make any sense, but that's what makes it a conspiracy theory.
           \_ i dont think this is so far-fetched
              \_ The main problem with the above conspiracy theory is that
                 Bush does not seem to have come out any stronger from the
                 fray over Miers.
        \_ Don't worry, man.  I won't soon forget about treason, perjury,
           obstruction of justice.
        \_ How well does that tinfoil hat fit?

10/31   I currently have AT&T's VoIP CallVantage program. How easy is
        it to switch to Vonage's VoIP, which is $5 cheaper/month, and
        I get the first month free? Also can I keep the same number?

10/31   Happy Halloween!
        http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4346/1160/1600/103944384bmomQg_ph.jpg
        \_ aruga aruga!
           \_ What?
              \_ Capt'n! She canna teak anymoor. She's gonna blow!
              \_ onomatopoeia for squeezing rubber horns
                 \_ Haha!  I see.  Thanks.

10/31   what's a command line torrent program that lets me
        limit my uploading speed?
        \_ the reference bt client maybe?
           \_ yep, the reference python implementation does this
        \_ Not strictly CLI (curses-based) but try rtorrent.  Fairly
           counter-intuitive commands, but does what you want.  -John

10/31   What the heck is The Wizard of Id supposed to be about today?
        http://featurepage.creators.com/washpost.html?name=wiz
        \_ I think they're trying to say halloween==devil worship
           \_ Or that orange gourds and wheeled transports are all part
              the Devil's plot of e-ville.

10/31   SeaQuest is coming out on DVD:
        http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4407
        \_ and still no date for the release of Manimal?

10/29   I want to run a compile remotely on my work machine (a Linux
        box), and log out.  Normally, I would do this with screen, but
        screen doesn't work on my work machine.  Is there a way to run
        a command remotely and not wait for the output?  I suppose I
        could set up a cron job for 5 minutes in the future and then
        log out, but that seems kludgy.
        \_ nohup? or why don't you compile your own screen?
           \_ May compile my own screen in the future.  I need to check to
              see if it's ok to do so.  However, I think I just figured
              out how to do it with ssh.
              \_ yeah, my first thought was ssh.  what about something like
                 at, though?  still kludgy, but slightly less so than cron.
           \_ Nohup seems to be the solution you are looking for.
              \_ Yes, after reading some docs on it, I agree.  Thanks to
                 both who suggested it. -op

10/28   Has anyone read any of the original James Bond novels?
        Any recommendations re which one I should start w/?
        \_ Yes.  Casino Royale.  There's a chronological order to them; there
           is a small used book store on W. Portal in SF which used to always
           have first or second print paperbacks if you're interested.  I
           believe From Russia with Love came next, but this guy claims to
           have a correct order:  http://tinyurl.com/exgor  I wouldn't bother
           with any of the non Ian Fleming books, they're crap.  -John
           \_ Added bonus is that "Casino Royale" will be the next movie.
              \_ About time, too.  CR is the only one that Saltzman/Broccoli
                 didn't manage to snap up the rights to.  The original one
                 with David Niven/Woody Allen is torture to watch.  -John

10/28   DANH. GET IN TOUCH WITH UVULA. OR ELSE. KTHX.
        \_ I read "... GET IN TOUCH WITH VULVA ..."
        \_ Since when does Julia post to MOTD?
           \_ I pity the minionless

10/28   Flash paraody of Ah-nold
        http://www.arnoldsneighborhood.com

10/27   amckee, it's okay, don't feel bad.  you will be an alumni someday
        too.  then you will be joining us, and become one of us!  yeh!
        \_ One of us! One of us!
           \_ mmmmm brains ... Send more paramedics!
              \_ gooble gobble, gooble gobble!
                 \_ http://urbandead.com

10/26   For companies that have offices in both N and S Cal and have
        equivalent positions (manager, engr, sr. engr), are the pay
        usually equivalent as well?
        \_ At Intel they have a cost of living adjustment, so if you change
           sites your pay is adjusted, I believe.  It can easily be $10K+
           living in NoCal (assuming same job title).  Interesting, huh?
           They have an entire chart listing all the sites w/multipliers.
           \_ My company reserves the biggest multiplier for people working
              in... Alaska.
           \_ It's not a cost of living adjustment.  It's a geographical
              adjustment and it's not for cost of living, it's for cost of
              /hiring/. -emarkp
        \_ I don't know for sure, but it should be. Cost of living is
           about the same.

10/26   To kchang or similar individuals (I've never used the site nor
        do I have an inclination to): If you are indeed attributing anon
        posts to people and you do so erronously you're only opening yourself
        up to a big liability in the form of a libel suit. If you think
        that it can't happen to you, well, all I can say is that I know a
        good friend who sued someone and won about $8,500 about two years
        ago when said person sent out an email questioning said person's
        competence. All you need in a libel suit is A) Be Wrong and B)
        Communicate that to a 3rd person. I already wrote to csua@csua
        about this a couple weeks ago, which is probably why they asked
        the thing to be shut off. If you think your little disclaimer gets
        you out of liability, think again. -williamc
        \_ uh, it's already been shutdown completely as of yesterday.
           where the hell have you been? stupid.
        \_ This defies comment.  Thank you for confirming my belief that
           the Montel Williams audience demographic is alive and well.  -John
        \_ Why don't you just challenge kchang to GUN DUEL?!

10/26   Boy am I glad that all the false attributions on kchang's site
        have been shut down, so that no one will ever be able to falsely
        attribute posts claiming, for example, that I am williamc and that
        I molest goats for a living.
        \_ ALL HEIL GERMAN JOHN! HEIL!
        \_ Hello, I am German John and I molest children for a living. -john
           \_ (1) Capital "J", (2) only aryan children.  -John
        \- you are a moron. ok tnx. -tom&psb
                                            \_ is this some kind of homosexual
                                               code?
                                                \_ I think it's more like
                                                   saying "assholes of a
                                                   feather fart together."

10/26   Has anyone lived in Emeryville Watergate?  How is it?  How safe is it,
        especially late at night?
        \_ It's pretty safe, other than the occasional late-night politically
           motivated dirty-tricks break in.
        \_ I worked in the Watergate office towers next door for a while, and
           many of my coworkers lived in the housing complex. They were all
           pretty fond of it. The area never felt unsafe to me walking around
           late at night, and the views can be pretty impressive, depending on
           where you are in the complex. -gm

10/26   Thank you so much brett! You're doing a heck of a job.
        Mission accomplished.
        \_ I miss Intellidiff.  It was cool even without the guessing.
           \_ Hello kchang! I love how you masquerade as an anonymous
              h0zer to support yourself. Get a life.
              \_ Err.. actually, that was me, you anonymous h0zer. -jrleek
                 \_ Err.. in that case, get a life.  -kchang hater
                 \_ No, I'm pp! -spartacus
           \_ So do i. It sucks having to go through the entire motd
              just to see what's changed.
              \_ whine whine whine. Why don't you guys do something about it?
              \_ Um, cp and diff?

10/26   Let the race to the bottom begin!

10/26   Bored? Look here:  http://www.zeronews-fr.com/flash/quarter.php

10/26   this is neat
        http://illicitohio.com/SBNO/heritage/heritage01.html - danh

10/26   Everyone who suggested NYC stuff, Thank you. --scotsman

10/25   jctwu: who needs the popular opinion when you are in power? Get lost.

10/25   Stanfurd giving away free music on itms:
        http://www.tuaw.com/2005/10/24/free-music-from-stanford-university

10/25   "We have double sourced that the vice president's chief of staff has
        been indicted," a reporter for ABCNEWS claimed to White House
        communications director Nicolle Wallace this afternoon ...
        \_ url?
           \_ verbatim from drudgereport ... since removed
                \_ headline on http://www.rawstory.com "BOGUS: ABC DENIES DRUDGE
                   LIBBY CLAIM"

10/25   foo

10/25   kchang sucks

10/24   For those who were forced to read Chaucer.  SHAFT! in Chaucerian
        English:
        http://www.livejournal.com/users/dwenius/54930.html

10/25   What's a good thermal base to buy for warmth (55-65F)?
        \_ http://www.americanapparelstore.com/2001org.html

10/25   "What are you staring at, Mr. President?"
        http://news.yahoo.com/photo/051025/480/ny13710250245

10/24   Guy doing a flaming shot, and why it's a bad idea
http://www.badongo.com/pic.php?file=Guy+doing+a+flame+shot__2005-10-24_flame_shot.gif
        \_ I wonder what the 'Intelligent Design' folks have to say about this?

10/24   Has anyone used GOOD?  http://good.com
        Good/bad?  --scotsman
        \_ shac >>>> all motd posters
           --scotsman
        \_ If it was bad, wouldn't the URL be http://bad.com

10/24   I find this amusing.  Apparently "Intelligent Design" folks are
        saying that "March of the Penguins" supports ID.  When I watched it I
        was thinking how natural selection is at every step of the way. -emarkp
        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46989
        \_ They are capitalizing on the movie's hype and betting on people
           being too busy to watch the actual film to verify their claims.  In
           other words, what a smart deceptive move.
           \_ Even worse, Intelligent Design has nothing to with behavior.
              It seeks to explain the workings of life on a molecular level.
              It's akin to saying Democracy was caused by evolution.

10/24   Has anyone used GOOD?  http://good.webex.com
        Good/bad?
        --scotsman

10/23   Soda rebooted after httpd refused to restart.

10/22   "We will be greeted as liberators."
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051022/ts_nm/iraq_britain_dc

10/22   Does anyone know what metal coathangers are typically made from?
        \_ NO. MORE. WIRE. HANGERS!!!!
        \_ I'm going to guess some sort of metal.
           \_ My question was badly phrased.  I meant "what kind of metal"?
              Really I just want to know whether I can silver solder to them,
              but I think I'll just try it tonight.  I'll post the result if
              anyone cares.

10/22   Gen-X is 27-40:
        http://www.nahb.org/news_details.aspx?sectionID=137&newsID=1496
        \_ 62.4% of statistics are made up on the spot, the other 47.9% are
           pulled out of someone's ass when they have an article deadline.
           "Gen-X" means whatever some starving socialist wants it to mean.
           What else would socialists do but invent meaningless terms for
           their books?
           \_ socialist?
              \_ heh, sorry, it was early.  sociologists.
                 \_ This reminds me of the time I was standing in a Berkeley
                    dumpster digging for books in the middle of the night, and
                    this other random other guy jumped in and was also digging
                    for books, and for some reason called me a Stalinist.
                    Stalinist?? Only in Berkeley.
                        \_ I thought we were an autonomous collective.
                           \_ You're fooling yourself.

10/21   Any recommendations on places in the east bay regional parks
        areas to hike 2-3 miles? thx.
        \_ I have a number, but some are lengthy to describe.  Drop into #csua
           if you're interested.  --dbushong

10/20   Oh munificent psb, I need high fallutin' friends I can bitch about
        opera with....Do you know any? Also, whadya think of Dr. Atomic?
        \- The bomb was "the bomb". I didnt like the women parts.
           I didnt really expect to like it but went to see it anyway.
           \_ I left after act2, scene1. What a disappointment.
              Even more so than the Harriet Miers nomination. -op
              \_ I rarely even meet people like you, so let me take this
                 opportunity to tell you to go fuck yourself.
                 \_ Hey don't go all Cheney on us.
        \_ One more from the man who brought us _Nixon in China_ and
           _I Was Looking at the Ceiling and then I Saw the Sky_? Adams
           is probably most consistently the least interesting of the
           minimalists. Though I did see him conduct the Ensemble Modern
           playing Rihm, Nancarrow, Zappa, etc. and that kicked some
           serious ass.

10/20   http://RaptureReady.com, its "Rapture Index" has been hovering around 160
        the highest levels since just after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9731623
        \_ Does having the anti-Christ as a VP make the index go up or down?
           \_ He is merely "in league" with the Lightbringer (i.e. not related)
           \_ He is merely "in league" with the Lightbearer (i.e. not related)

\_ but don't let that stop your lawsuit!

10/19   Where German babies come from. Book for children, but still NSFW.
        http://www.planetdan.net/pics/babies/index.htm
        \_ OMG! Page 21 is hillarious!

10/19   Go to http://images.google.com, choose "Use strict filtering" in Preferences,
        search for "Janine Lindemulder".  Now enjoy the filtered images.
        \_ She's kinda scary looking.
           \_ She looked pretty good on Howard Stern's show on E! last night.
        \_ whats your point? that the filtering doesnt work??
           \_ Yup.  --- OP

10/18   Cancun's about to get fucked..
        \_ Is this where they shot "Girls Gone Wild"?

10/18   Cancun's about to get rm'ed.
        \_ Is this where they shot "Girls Gone Wild"?

10/18   Well, now you guys have someone to complain about for years and years
        OTHER than Paolo...
        \_ Who is paolo and why would I complain about him?
        \_ ^complain^mock

10/18   Katrina-related iMix:
        http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPublishedPlaylist?id=542024&s=143441
        (requires iTunes)

10/17   Has anyone been in Rome around thanksgiving holidays? Is it normally
        snowing during that time?
        \_ Funny. I was just looking at that exact same city at the same time.
        \_ Wouldn't you prefer to go to Rome when it's nicer weather?  -John

10/17   Has anyone been in Reno around thanksgiving holidays? Is it normally
        snowing during that time?

10/16   The new version of Ubuntu is out, has anyone tried it yet?
        \_ I'm not talking to you anymore jrleek. I've lost respect for you.
        \_ FreeBSD6.0 RC is out too.

10/16   Setting up /etc/motd.public, 10 seconds.
        Posting motd, 100 hours.
        Writing a stupid and unreliable logger that can be easily fooled
                via scp and other mechanisms, 10 hours.
        Squishing someone based on the unreliable logger, priceless.
        \_ Re stupid and unreliable logger -- are you talking about the
           proposed one or the current one that a user created?
           ... oh yeah, you're talking about the current one.  I guess that's
           all the more reason to create the proposed one! </troll>

10/15   My CD collection has become a bit unwieldly.  Can anyone point me to
        somewhere where I can buy labeled dividers "A" "B" .. "C" "Classical"
        "Soundtracks" or ones where I can label them myself if given some of
        these dividers.  I tried googling but I'm not sure what to look for
        exactly. -eric
        \- do you have any of the casals perpigan or prades recordings?

10/14   Anyone here a member of LA fitness?  I'm trying to decide
        whether to join or not.  I'm up in the Seattle area and they're
        opening up a new one with a pool.

10/14   Another video of cool art.  (cg this time)
        http://www.1st-ave-machine.com/video/anime_final.htm

10/15   feeling nostalgic.  who remembers Wall Berlin?  -jon (+24 hours)
        \_ I remember the Berlin Wall.
        \_ aww.  I miss Wall Berlin.

*/*     TREVOR!

10/14   psb is a notorious dope fiend!

10/14   WASHINGTON (AFP) - US consumer inflation surged at the fastest pace in
        more than 25 years in September, rising a steeper-than-expected 1.2
        percent, according to the Labor Department.

10/13   Wasn't there someone here who works at iTMS? What's up with the
        store recently? None of the song listings seem to show up on
        certain computers.

10/13   First PSP Trojan:
        http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3144414

10/13   Al Qaida claims Al Qaida letter is a fake.
        http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Osama_bin_Laden_and_al_Qaida
        \_ The use of little hearts instead of dots was probably a clue.

10/12   The more things change:
        "I can handle a hundred thousand men in battle, and take the City of
        the Sun, but am afraid to manage a lot in the swamp of San Francisco."
          --William Tecumseh Sherman
        \_ "It is much easier to destroy than to create" -King Duh

10/11   The ultimate bling for your r1c3d out c1v1c:
        http://www.shoplaser.com/index.html
        \_ What a great way to bring down MPG.

10/11   For those who don't follow http://ucb.computing.discussion 27 Oct is Sun
        Day at Cal - you can register at:
        http://www.suneventreg.com//cgi-bin/register.pl?EventID=639

10/11   Good Morning!
        \_ Hello.
           \_ Bonjour!
              \_ Hallo!
        \_ get yer hands out of your pants
           \- I'm not wearing pants. --emk