8/10    Are you burnt out or cynical?
        \_ Not yet. I just keep finding absurdities to keep me going.

8/10    Does anyone know of a free statechart drawing tool on Windoze or *nix
        that's good?  Thanks.

8/9     htop rules.

8/9     Worlds largest Tanzanite diamond discovred:
        http://tinyurl.com/92gup (jckgroup.com)
        \_ What the hell is a Tanzanite diamond?
        \_ ^diamond^stone
        \_ They're talking about cutting and polishing it.  Why the heck
           do that?  You take something extraordinary--a freakishly big
           Tanzanite crystal--and cut it into ordinary little pieces. Why
           not just keep it intact as a freakish museum piece?
           \_ cut it into the "Heart of the Mountain" stone
           \_ A freakish Tanzanite crystal is not going to buy your way into a
              mistress' pants.  OTOH a polished one will.
              \_ it might if your mistress is a geologist...

8/9     Happy 40th Birthday Spore!  May your history be as glorious as
        that of Venice!

8/9     DDT: A Case Study in Scientific Fraud
        http://www.jpands.org/vol9no3/edwards.pdf
        \_ The political tone of this is obvious, so I went to see who these
           guys represent -- apparently private doctors.  Amusing.  The wages
           of socialism in a given professional sphere is radicalization of
           skilled professionals. -- ilyas
           \_ I think radicalization can occur for either liburalz or
              consurvatives.
              \- At a global level the DDT story is really a sad one, and not
                 just of academic interest. It goes from that hack Rachel
                 Carson and US Govt to the UN who starts pressuring developing
                 countries with endemic malaria problems not to use it. What
                 is appropriate for large scale argicultural use and "tactical"
                 application in domiciles is wildly different.

8/9     Illegal Aliens and American Medicine
        http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf

8/8     The way liberals welcome freedom of speech, even for those who
        are against freedom of speech, reminds me of this childhood story
        where a close knit herbivore community finally opens up its
        gate to everyone, only to have the community destroyed by other
        carnivores.
        \_ which leads you to conclude ...?
           You know, you could easily replace "freedom of speech" with
           press, or religion, or dissent.
        \_ Will human suffer from the same fate when SETI finds E.T. and
           initialtes communication?

8/8     \_ No, not "whatever".  At least you (a)
           sign your posts, and (b) have some sort
           of contributory logic to your political
           argumentation (i.e. links and arguments
           that you post have _some_ intrinsic value
           as you seem to have put some thought into
           them instead of just spewing shit, even
           if it's usually wrongthink--for example,
           I find your generalizations about
           "liberals" to be disappointing and below
           what I would expect from you.)
           By my definition, "cretinous thugs" are
           rampant on the motd and wall, alongside
           a lot of other stuff.  -John
           \_ 'Wrongthink?'  Generalizing about liberals?  That's double plus
              ungood!  John, do me a favor.  Stop commenting on what I write.
              I could do without your condescending attempts to 'improve me.'
              As for your actual claim, I don't actually generalize about
              liberals as a whole except in jest.  You don't seem to understand
              me, or my sense of humor, or something like that.  Regarding
              \_ You're not funny.  Not offensive funny (I'm not easily
                 offended), just not funny.  Amuse me and I may stop
                 commenting on your posts.  -John
                 \_ Remember John, it is I who politely asked to be left alone
                    and it is you who refused.  Who is the cretinous thug
                    today? -- ilyas
                    \_ Why would I try to improve you?  You're perfect.  -John
              \- didnt we establish you didnt have a sense of humor in the
                 psb -> polpot thread?
                 \_ I asked you if you were serious TWICE, partha.  Fuck off.
                      -- ilyas
                    \_ You shouldn't call someone names unless you are
                       sure of that person's identity. In this case, someone
                       could have masqueraded as partha, but at any rate
                       he didn't sign his name.
                       \- ilyas lives in a baysian world --could be anybody
              jblack and FR, the man has as much right to post as you or
              anybody else.  I am not really impressed by FR, but what do I
              know, I don't even follow those links anymore.  The punitive
              personal campaigns that go on the motd piss me off a hell of
              a lot more than anything jblack posts. -- ilyas
              \_ Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
                 S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
                 Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
                 Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit

                 Die Strasse frei den braunen Batallionen
                 Die Strasse frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann
                 Es schau'n auf's Hackenkreuz voll Hoffung schon Millionen
                 Der Tag fur Freiheit und fur Brot bricht an

                 Zum letzen Mal wird nun Appell geblasen
                 Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit
                 Bald flattern Hitler-fahnen Uber allen Strassen
                 Die Knechtschaft dauert nur mehr kurze Zeit

                 Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
                 S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
                 Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
                 Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit
                                                -John
                 \_ The other thing of note, is I never have seen John campaign
                    nearly as tirelessly (or at all) regarding FR-like behavior
                    within the hallowed 'walls' of this machine, like one
                    aaron@csua's outbursts.  Fortunately aaron is gone.
                    The guy was the very definition of a 'cretinous thug,' with
                    his violent fantasies, yet I heard nothing from anybody
                    about him.  -- ilyas
                    \_ (oh good, heil cherman john guy is back, I was worried
                       about him.)  How exactly am I campaigning?  I don't
                       think I've commented on his posts except as an aside to
                       clearly stating that censoring someone, no matter how
                       obnoxious, is teh suck.  I really fail to see the
                       issue here.  -John
                    \_ You must have been blind then.  People bitched about
                       aaron's ranting all the time.
                       \_ So is the revisionist historian ilyas or this guy?
                          \_ Honestly, I don't remember anybody complaining
                             about aaron except myself, and I remember some
                             people defending him.  Of course I don't usually
                             read wall logs. -- ilyas
                             \_ Search for aaron on KAIS motd.  A lot of
                                people complained about/made fun of aaron.
                             \_ Why do you think the left soda? Lots of
                                people were making fun of him and tom pushed
                                him over the top on wall so he left in a
                                huff.

8/8     Help. How do you get rid of grape fruit stain on the shirt?
        \_ zout + wash with detergent.

8/7     Whatthehack photos
        http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/whatthehack/?page=1     -John
        \_ Huh?  Are they supposed to be funny?

8/6     Why are you deleting your own post mice? This one:
                                           \_ BWWWAHAHAHAHAHA!        -mice

8/6     "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
        the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
        being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
        for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
        --Hermann Goring, 18 April 1946
        \_ damn liberal weenies
        \_ Hey, it worked for FDR and JFK.
           \_ If you wouldn't take it from FDR and JFK, why would you take it
              from Rove's Pinnochio?

8/5     Test 1-2-3

8/5     So, what's wrong with NIS?
        \_ You mean in general? Anyone on your network can get your password
           file.
        \_ I think it's also possible to spoof logins via NIS.  Not sure
           of this though.
           \_ There are lots of security-related bugs. Also, if someone hacks
              one workstation then they have hacked them all.

8/5     Baidu (BIDU), the new search IPO up $120 in one day.  Bubble again?
        \_ Are you short-GOOG-at-$100-guy?  -tom
           \_ Cant you just see tom getting all excited at the prospect
           \_ Cant you just see tom getting all relishing the prospect
              of bashing some random guy he has never met? Do you think
              he wakes up each day excited by the prospect of saying "I
              told you so" or jumping on somobody best ignored?
              \_ And it's so much better to remain anonymous when
                 personally attacking someone!  -tom
                 \_ Attacking someone non-anonymously doesn't make the
                    attacker a saint either.  It just starts useless flame
                    wars best kept to email or better yet, kept to silence.
                    \_ I bet BUD DAY doesn't get into useless flame wars.
           \_ I shorted GOOG at $300 and even though I've made money I think
              GOOG stockholders must be idiotic fanatics.
           \_ No - op
        \_ anyone gonna short it?

8/4     Czech Police do not like to party
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4738371.stm

http://tinyurl.com/bm7py
        \_ Learn to format

8/4     Wow, this must be the 100th time I've typed 'quota' today.  I am
        so happy.  Thank you root/jvarga/people that donated money....  You
        guys rock!!      -mice
        \_ I've typed "df" many times to.
        \_ Seconded, with interest. Nicely done! --erikred
        \_ You guys are awesome!!!
        \_ Yeah, thanks!
           \_ thanks? that's it? jvarga is open for donations. He
              could have gotten paid $$$ doing internships, but instead
              volunteered to do CSUA crap. Give him $$$, NOW!

8/4     Dear Goons, please point me to whatever thread on SA has any
        info on the recent wdma shinanigans.  The new forum looks, uh,
        like a trap.
        \_ SA?
        \_ wavelength-division multiple access?  and i thought i was the only
           optical networking guy here.
           \_ http://Somethingawful.com.
        \_ My understanding of what happened:
                1) Loser posts explicit pics and vids of him and his lady frie!
                   only a forum (not SA).
                2) Somehow this gets on site in question, where his bf2
                   clan find them.
                3) He threatens admins on SA and wdma to remove it or else;
                3) He threatens admins on SA and ..... to remove it or else;
                   In typical SA fashion, he is mocked relentlessly.
                4) Guy throws hissy fit and posts big exposes about piracy
                   on the internet, implicating various people connected to
                   the two sites, but not the original forum he posted on.
                   He somehow decides that posting said expose in hundreds
                   of IMDB forums is the correct method to distribute this
                   info.
                5) I notice the site is down, and get pissed enough to read
                   15 pages of posts to figure out what had happened.
           BTW, remember the first rule of Fight Club.
           \_ Noted--even though you repeated it in point 3.  Thx
              for the info.

8/2     Ranga, how did you thank jvarga? Did you properly thank him, and HOW?
        \_ Yeah, we need to give jvarga a long and hard thanking.

8/4     Czech Police do not like to party
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4738371.stm

http://tinyurl.com/bm7py
http://tinyurl.com/7muqd
http://tinyurl.com/b7lah
http://tinyurl.com/9f9zf
http://tinyurl.com/dxx2j
http://tinyurl.com/8j3me
http://tinyurl.com/c3r6z
http://tinyurl.com/abfeg
http://tinyurl.com/dt5vk
http://tinyurl.com/7fl2l
http://tinyurl.com/bxbjp
http://tinyurl.com/97wrn
http://tinyurl.com/cpnbr
http://tinyurl.com/878gr
http://tinyurl.com/9wk8t
http://tinyurl.com/dhaqx
http://tinyurl.com/7pm2a
http://tinyurl.com/bacje
http://tinyurl.com/9zxrc
http://tinyurl.com/d2obg
http://tinyurl.com/8lrvb
http://tinyurl.com/c6zff

8/2     Poll, the air disaster/miracle/whatever you call it has or
        has not changed your convidence of French made planes and
        French pilots:
        -more confidence:
        -less confidence:
        -same confidence:
        -reinforce my lack of confidence: .
        \_ Have they figured out what caused it?
        \_ I thought AirBus is a pan-European company.
        \_ What makes you think the accident had anything to do with
           the pilot or plane being French?
           \_ Sounds like M-x doctor.
           \_ The plane landed too far down the runway.

8/3     Sorry for the short notice, but it looks like I have time to work on
        home directory issue tonight.  I'm going to start breaking stuff...
        badly... bugs to root@csua. - jvarga
        \_ Erm, what, exactly, does this mean?
           \_ With luck, the quota upgrades will come tonight. - jvarga
              \_ I love you like I've never loved another man.

8/3     New pictures of Amanda today at http://bustywebshots.blogspot.com

8/3     I'm not recieving email any more.  Anyone else having problems? -scottyg
        \_ Worked for me.  E-mail went across from outside to soda in ~ 5
           seconds.  Using mutt to check e-mail locally.
        \_My Quota was full...my bad. -scottyg

8/4     Suppose my lame MPEG still decoder could only decode I-frames.  If I
        had an I-frame and a P-frame, is it easy to combine them into a new
        I-frame and feed it to my decoder?  Maybe just copy over the
        non-trivial slices from the P-frame to the I-frame?  Am I insane?

8/4     Heh.
        http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/05.08.02.DemocracyinAct-X.gif

8/4     Chevron invoiced Nigerian death squads
        link:www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/12285441.htm - danh
        \_ "I don't see what's wrong with corporate feudalism..."
           --the ilyas of Christmas Past
           \_ Misquotes from anonymous morons, yay! -- ilyas
              \_ "Fast food is nutritious."  --the ilyas of Christmas Past
                 \_ dict nutritious, troll.

8/2     FTP mount back online.  I need a vacation. - jvarga

8/2     FTP back.  Quit yer complainin. - jvarga
        \_ Yeah!!!  Thank you thank you!!!

8/2     cfarivar@ocf: Spoilsport or journalist?
        http://slate.msn.com/id/2123673/?nav=ais

8/2     Crosswalk button hacks. Anyone tried this? "Instant Walk." Three
        short clicks, followed by two long, one short, two long, and
        three short; turn any crosswalk signal from "don't walk" to "walk"
        http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/06/crosswalk_button_hacks.html
        \_ You do know that bbspot is a parody site, right?
           \_ If you hadn't posted your reply, I was literally minutes away
              from running around town like an idiot pushing sequences into
              crosswalk buttons.
           \_ Oh, darn :)
        \_ I guess by the time one finishes that sequence, it's time for the
           signal to change by itself anyway.
           \_ Well, you punch it in and nothing happens. So then you try
              it again, figuring you got the pauses wrong. And then again.
              And then the light changes so you tell everyone it works...

8/2     Probably old news to some of you, but:
        http://www.google.com/ig

8/2     To the guy who replaced all the links with girl pics:  I like
        the girl pics, but I probably would have liked to see
        the original links too.  Next time, would you please
        just add your links instead of overwriting others?  --PeterM
        \_ I restored what I had. -jrleek
        \_ Thanks for all the links.  I just got a hard-on in my cube.
        \_ Thanks for all the links.  I just got a hard-on in my cube.  Amanda
           is the best!

8/1     I take back (almost) everything I ever said bad about NYC.  The
        people are generally nice and well-dressed, the food is really good,
        you can always get cabs, and I haven't encountered anyone who tried
        to bite me or who eats babies yet.  Three thumbs up, it's expensive
        but a really cool place.  -John
        \_ Obviously, you never lived there for a long time. How long were
           you there? NYC, great to visit, not so great to live.
           \- in my experience something really changed there post-Guilliani
              \_ good or bad?
                 \_ It depends on your politics.
           \_ Good lord no, I thought that was pretty clear and obvious.  My
              friends here are paying $4200/mo. for a 2rm. apartment, along
              with people who pay others to walk their dogs and can't find
              parking, EVAR.  I was just commenting on how it was a nice place
              to visit.  -John

8/1     The healthy human flesh alternative.
        http://www.eathufu.com/home.asp

8/1     Has anyone in history ever escaped the Alcatraz prison?

7/31    the new burger king commercials with fucking punk chickens
        is annoying enough that i never will darken their door in the future
        \_ I don't have a TV, can you please describe the commercial?
        \_ You're totally right. as if it wasn't shitty enough, it has
           to be a super long commercial, too.

7/31    Old threads deleted, IOS exploit thread preserved b/c it is
        important and has new info about the exploit.

7/31    Kotex fits.  Period.

7/31    Why do Sikhs hate America?
        http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1445269,00050001.htm
        http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=75385

7/30    Hey ranga, did you ever give a big thanks to jvarga? I'd like to
        thank jvarga too, but since I'm too lazy to drive up north I'd
        like to thank you for thanking jvarga... you close to El Camino? Do
        you like Udupi Palace?
        \_ I'm going to Berkeley this tuesday. As I'm going to be there
           all day, I'm hoping to drop by soda in the afternoon and meet
           jvarga.

7/30    For a regular expression like (?:(FOO)|(BAR)|(BAZ))(GARPLY) where
        exactly one of expressions FOO, BAR, or BAZ will match, is there
        a way to have only one backreference returned for the one that
        matches? That is, I'd like $1 to be for that match, and $2 to be the
        match for GARPLY. This is using preg_split (pcre on PHP). Thanks.
        \_ (FOO|BAR|BAZ)(GARPLY) --dbushong
           \_ Well, actually, I guess I didn't explain this quite right.
              Say I have something like (?:FOO|BAR|BAZ)(GARPLY),
              and FOO, BAR, and BAZ each have two sets of capturing
              parens themselves. I want those matches to be $1 and $2,
              and GARPLY to be $3.
              \_ I don't believe you can do that... but since you're trying
                 to do this with preg_split, how do you plan on capturing
                 any matches at all?  --dbushong
                 \_ There's an option for returning captured matches.

7/29    Thinkgeek says today is Sysadmin Day.  Bow before me and get me a
        marshmallow shooter!  That is all.  I need more sleep! - jvarga

7/29    Are there any good outdoor wi-fi hot spots in Berkeley?
        \_ Airbears

7/29    "We were actually quite surprised to hear we had some large pieces of
        debris fall off the external tank. It wasn't what we had expected ...
        Frankly, we were disappointed to hear that had happened ... What I'd
        like to say is this is something that has to be fixed ... I don't
        think we should fly again unless we do something to prevent this from
        happening again." -Commander Eileen Collins, Discovery

7/29    in SF till mid september
        http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2005-07-27/culture/art.html

7/28    I can remember submitting some CS projects with comments like these...
        http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~kovar/hall.html
        \_ heh, an oldie but still a good one.  thanks for posting.  -mice

7/28    where is that program that generate ascii images?
        \_  __        ___     _      _                       ___
            \ \      / / |__ (_) ___| |__     ___  _ __   __|__ \
             \ \ /\ / /| '_ \| |/ __| '_ \   / _ \| '_ \ / _ \/ /
              \ V  V / | | | | | (__| | | | | (_) | | | |  __/_|
               \_/\_/  |_| |_|_|\___|_| |_|  \___/|_| |_|\___(_)
               \_ @@@@@@@@  @@@   @@@@@@@@  @@@       @@@@@@@@  @@@@@@@
                  @@@@@@@@  @@@  @@@@@@@@@  @@@       @@@@@@@@  @@@@@@@
                  @@!       @@!  !@@        @@!       @@!         @@!
                  !@!       !@!  !@!        !@!       !@!         !@!
                  @!!!:!    !!@  !@! @!@!@  @!!       @!!!:!      @!!
                  !!!!!:    !!!  !!! !!@!!  !!!       !!!!!:      !!!
                  !!:       !!:  :!!   !!:  !!:       !!:         !!:
                  :!:       :!:  :!:   !::   :!:      :!:         :!:
                   ::        ::   ::: ::::   :: ::::   :: ::::     ::
                   :        :     :: :: :   : :: : :  : :: ::      :
                   \_ hey nice, thanks.  which font is this?
                      \_ Ah, the yunguns...  "poison"

7/27    I used to drink Momokawa Silver sake (dry) but noew all I can find is
        the Diamond (semi-dry).  Anyone know where I can find Momokawa Silver?
        Alternate question: Anyone care to suggest a decent very dry sake
        around $10 per 720/750ml?

7/27    "Call it luck or whatever, it didn't harm the orbiter," said shuttle
        program manager Bill Parsons. "We think that would have been really
        bad, so it's not acceptable," said Parsons' deputy, Wayne Hale.
        \_ Your point being ...?
           \_ You make the mistake of thinking everything needs to have
              a "point"

7/27    3D printer? how does this thing work?
        http://www.zcorp.com/products/printersdetail.asp?ID=2
        \_ It builds things up in layers.  These things have been around
           for a while.

7/27    any free UML tools to download?
        \_ Must...kill...UML...

7/25    The saddest thing:
        http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=06022003

7/25    Disappearing Bill of Rights Mug:
        http://www.uncommongoods.com/item/item.jsp?itemId=13857

7/25    Motd Ascii Art of this week: South Park
         _          __________                              _,
     _.-(_)._     ."          ".      .--""--.          _.-{__}-._
   .'________'.   | .--------. |    .'        '.      .:-'`____`'-:.
  [____________] /` |________| `\  /   .'``'.   \    /_.-"`_  _`"-._\
  /  / .\/. \  \|  / / .\/. \ \  ||  .'/.\/.\'.  |  /`   / .\/. \   `\
  |  \__/\__/  |\_/  \__/\__/  \_/|  : |_/\_| ;  |  |    \__/\__/    |
  \            /  \            /   \ '.\    /.' / .-\                >/-.
  /'._  --  _.'\  /'._  --  _.'\   /'. `'--'` .'\/   '._-.__--__.-_.'
\/_   `""""`   _\/_   `""""`   _\ /_  `-./\.-'  _\'.    `""""""""`'`\
(__/    '|    \ _)_|           |_)_/            \__)|        '
  |_____'|_____|   \__________/|;                  `_________'________`;-'
  s'----------'    '----------'   '--------------'`--------------------`
     RETARD             JEW             FAG        GROTESQUELY FAT NAZI

7/24    FTP hozers, read the official motd. - jvarga

7/23    I seem to remember there being some people here who knew a bit
        about landscaping issues:  I'm about to get sod put in my front
        yard and want to a small grass that doesn't grow fast (I hate mowing)
        my wife wants blades that aren't too thick and look good.  Advice?
        and what does "very little thatch" mean ?
        \_ If you live in Irvine, make sure you go through the home-owner's
           association approval process. Submit an application and make sure
           the type of grass match with one of the 2 they approve. Also
           if you're painting, you have about 4 colors to choose from,
           depending on the colors of your neighbors and their color
           matching schemes. And if you're not careful you'll get penalized
           $200 the first month for breaking any of their aesthetic rules.
           That's how much my sister got fined. Also do NOT install
           satellite dishes visible from the streets. Make sure your kids
           don't go out alone after 9PM, they have a night and weekend curfew
           for kids under 18.
        \_ Where do you live and how much sun does the spot get? Do you
           have sprinklers?

7/22    Punch line is last sentence:
        Commissioner Ian Blair of the Metropolitan Police said the man, who
        was not identified, was "linked to yesterday's incidents" and had
        failed to obey police instructions to halt. ... Police officials told
        British reporters that the officers feared that the man, who was
        wearing a thick coat despite warm weather, had explosives concealed on
        his body and was about to detonate them amid the crowd in the station.
        They acknowledged that they found no bomb on the body.
        [He's probably still guilty anyway, but it just goes to show you can
        be closely associated with the bombers and shot and not actually have
        a bomb on you.]
        \_ Maybe he was a decoy?
           \_ apparently not

7/23    jlee, Jason Lee, are you the same Jason Lee who went to Van Nuys High?
        \_ Uh, why don't you just use email?
        \_ Jason Lee sounds like a very common name.

7/22    What happened to /ftp?  It's empty.

7/22    Do they still call them Freedom Fries?
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/20/french.fry.case.ap
        \_ Why was this posted?

7/21    The Austrailian PM gives an interesting, if long winded, response
        to a question on the london attacks
        http://treyjackson.typepad.com/junction/files/jhoward2.wmv
        \_ Imagine Bush coming up with such a response. HAHA!

7/21    How do I get gcc to print out the include path?
        -print-search-dirs doesn't seem to print the include path,
        only the install/program/libraries... I need to see the
        include path... thx.

7/21    ok, China revalued its currency... happy now?
        \_ better buy some yuan, they say it's gonna climb in value even more

7/20    Quick note: Foundry Networks load balancers are steaming piles of dog
        shit.  Any manager considering buying one for your group should be
        drawn, quartered, shot, and then had his entrails fed to packs of
        rabid chihuahas.
        \_ What's wrong with them? I've always used Extreme Networks
           products for this, but it would be good to know why the
           competition sucks
           \_ Short version: bug-ridden.
              \_ What are the worst bugs?

7/20    I found two small and a moderate sized beehives in my backyard.  Got
        any specialists in the South Bay that you can recommend?  What about
        the San Leandro area?  Thanks.
        \_ hunny!

7/20    Do you hate/love the http://ThePolyphonicspree.com band? Why?
        \_ I really enjoy their stuff.  Heavily layered, well orchestrated
           stuff.  --scotsman
           \_ while I find the music interesting on a conceptual level,
              it's too cheery for me to listen to.  It makes me feel
              dirty.  -sax
        \_ What the, they're all wearing white robes and the audiences
           wave and get happy like the church I used to go to. Is this a
           fucking gospel group?
           \_ I saw them open for David Bowie.  As Bowie said between songs,
              "Really nice group of people, but don't let them give you any
              Koolaid."  --lye
        \_ It's about the worst band I've ever seen.  I couldn't believe they
           were serious.  -tom
           \_ P.S.: You know it was a bad show if there was a long harp solo,
              and no one was playing the harmonica.  -tom
              \_ Wow, you have interesting requirements for a good show.
                 \_ Harp solos are a sufficient (but not necessary)
                    requirement for a bad show.  I didn't say anything about
                    my requirements for a good show.  -tom

7/20    What is the maximum and minimum GPS values possible? I'm asking so
        that I know whether to use short, double, or whatever type I need
        for a database. Thanks.
        \_ Lat can be -90 to +90, Long can be -180 to +180.  Useful precision
           is probably no more than 6 decimal places, so I generally just use
           DECIMAL(8,6) and DECIMAL(9,6) respectively.
           \_ Is it in deg, min, sec or decimal degrees?  -not op
              \_ I was assuming decimal degrees.
           \_ THANK YOU

7/19    I don't suppose anyone is planning to go to the Aquabats show
        tonight at Slims? -jrleek

7/19    Ouch. http://csua.org/u/cro [SFW]
        \_ Er, why motd this? I mean, yuck.  For everyone else,
           it's a story on a guy who had a grotesque accident leading
           to being maimed and blinded.
           \_ Fear the danh! Fear!
              \_ As I recall, danh uses tinyurl, not http://csua.org.
                 \_ And he usually signs his url posts as well.  Besides,
                    this is way sub-par to danh's standards.
           \_ It's a CT for crying out loud.  danh would have posted a color
              photo.

7/18    Who is the "moderate" deleting the Plame threads?
        \_ They're not deleted. They're moved to the bottom to give lasting
           impressions to readers. You should thank whoever moved them.
           \_ Actually, whoever did it should have posted at top that they
              were moved to bottom.

7/16    I was wrong - this is the ULTIMATE rice mod:
        http://home.cwru.edu/~jsh28/drew/bodykit.html

7/15    If I am fucking a bunch of underground fobs in a street, is there
        a good way to suppress the [1] Ooh [2] Ahh and "Gimme more, hun!" type
        output?
        \_ you're obviously a clueless-virgin because as anyone experienced
           in this undertaking would know, that's not the types of exclamations
           they make.

7/15    WEAK.

7/14    Do any grocery stores around here sell San Pellegrino Chinotto?
        \_  http://csua.org/u/cpt

7/14    Shalom ilyas ma shlom-kha ata medaber, mishehu po medaber ivrit?
        \_ ken. - !ilyas
           \_ ma sh lom cha? ma shim kha?
        \_ No I don't.  I used to know Deutsch once, does that count as Yiddish?
           \_ ani lo mevin eich omrim et ze be'ivrit? zdayen mi po ya zevel!
              \_ such language!
                 \_ Translate please, thanks.

7/14    Happy Bastille Day
        \_ obFrenchBashing.
        \_ Vive la revolution.

7/14    The ultimate rice mod:
        http://tinyurl.com/bmg7k (ebay.com)
        \_ Throw in an afterburner, and you can be sure no other drive dare to
           tailgate you even if he has enough horsepower to keep up.
        \_ Is this real?  Where can you find jet engines so small?
           \_ Helicopter or a UCAV?
        \_ "I think its street legal" - ha ha ha!

7/13    Interview with Frank Herbert and Beverly Herbert from 1969:
        http://www.sinanvural.com/seksek/inien/tvd/tvd2.htm
        \_ Why are you posting this now?
           \_ I don't know why whomever posted that did it but the
              interview is damned interesting in spots.

7/13    http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com

7/13    Scotch coming down tonight after 7pm.  Read the official motd. - jvarga

7/13    I read the top of motd as "Rove is planning to swap out scotch.CSUA..."
        Too much frothing I guess.

7/12     Is it me or are there alot more cops on 101/280 these days?
         Is it ticket quota time or is this a response to London ?
        \- maybe our governator cut funding to the police department again

7/12    diff Anarchism Libertarianism

7/12    You Karl Rove haters are racist. -peterm
        \_ Very funny.  --PeterM

7/12    People caught with their pants down, literally!
        NOT WORK SAFE
        http://csua.org/u/com
        \_ Are cars in China more roomy than the ones here?
           \_ The people are just smaller</jessehelms>
           \_ The people are just smaller  </jessehelms>

7/12    Read the official motd, you twinks.  - jvarga
        \_ I refuse to read it further because it's not 80-column compliant!!!
           :-)
           \_ It doesn't even get close to trying to wrap in my 80-column
              terminal!  Get your columns back! - jvarga

7/12    Is there a site like rottentomatoes for music reviews?
        \_ Not the same at all, but I find http://www.allmusic.com helpful.
        \_ answering my own question: http://metacritic.com

7/11    The end of hacker publication:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4657265.stm
        \_ It doesn't say why the magazine is closing.  Any guess?

7/11    When I buy decaf, is it 100% caffeine free or are there residual
        caffeine? If they can extract caffeine so easily, what do they do
        with them-- make No Doz pills? Caffeine patch? Coca cola?
        \_ Much less caffeine but not caffeine-free. See: http://howstuffworks.com
        \_ There was a relatively recent Nat'l Geographic piece on caffeine.
           Yeah they use the extracted caffeine for all that stuff.

7/11    Agriculture nerds, guns germs steel is on PBS tonight - danh

7/11    What's the "short form" for the name Patricia (like "Don" for
        "Donald")?  Also, what's the formal term for "short forms" of people's
        names?  It'll help me googling.  Thanks.
        \_ wikipedia says "diminutives" - danh
        \_ wikipedia says "diminutives"
           \_ That's the term!  Thanks!
        \_ It's Pat!
        \_ Patty?
        \_ nicknames?
        \_ Trish?
        \_ Patty, Pat, Trish, Tricia, Trisha, etc...
           I've even heard Peg.
        \_ You might like to read Bill Bryson's books:
           American Made, and Mother Tongue.  Fun stuff.  gabriel

7/10    What structure/statue is roughly between Langley, VA and the GW
        Memorial Parkway?

9/15    Test

7/9     Dear paint experts. What are the pros and cons for using acrylic,
        polyurethan, and regular "laquer" to clear coat and protect something
        you just painted? There are quite a few selections for clear coat
        spray paints that cost about the same and I want to get the right
        one. Thanks.

7/8     RHENQUIST resigns.
        link:csua.org/u/cnl
        \_ Is this the danh?

7/8     Sheep owners lose sheep because they committed suicide. They
        should've bought sheep insurance:
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/turkey_sheep_suicide
        \_ Yeah, um, fire those shepherds.
        \_ wtf? Self-survival must've been bred out of them.

7/8     http://sports.yahoo.com/golf
        "Michelle Wie carded four birdies in her first nine holes ..."
        Birdies and her holes, oooh.
        \_ get a life.  -tom
        \_ Dude, she's *15* years old.
           \_ But she'll be legal in three months.
           \_ But she has already had four birdies in her holes.
        \_ She's not that cute. You want cute athletes? Check out female
           tennis players, especially the ones from eastern europe.

7/8     For audio and recording geeks: Nanotech drum "pickups" may make drum
        mic'ing a thing of the past:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4637203.stm

7/8     Turns news into living art.
        http://www.marumushi.com/apps/newsmap/newsmap.cfm
        \_ tres cool. tnx

7/8     Which would you prefer? Sharing an (nicer?) office with someone, or
        in a (smaller?) cubicle by yourself?
        cubicle: ..
        office: .
        \_ As long as I get my privacy.  We just moved into a new place, and
           although I got a corner office, my office-mate is looking right at
           me about 6 feet away.
           Cubes with 4 foot walls bite, but I'll deal as long as everyone my
           salary level gets one.
           Cubes with 6 foot walls are okay in my book as long as they have
           at least 3 walls.
        \_ Having done both, I'd rather have a place by myself. Not asked,
           but I prefer a cubicle with a window to an office with a door,
           but without a window, too.
        \_ Which one has more clout in the company?

7/8     Cool solar panels. Click reload to see new pictures:
        http://www.powerlight.com
        \_ Are these panels more efficient than the old ones?  What's the
           dollar cost to watt ratio?

7/7     Is there a way to change the host name resolution order on MacOS X 10.3
        so that /etc/hosts is being used before netinfo (and dns)?

7/7     This is test.

7/7     Brit Hume's first thought on hearing of London attacks?  Time to buy!
        http://mediamatters.org/items/200507070007
        \_ Talk about deceptive titles.  Can we just drop http://mm.org?  His whole
           quote (bold in the http://mm.org article):
           "I mean, my first thought when I heard -- just on a personal basis,
           when I heard there had been this attack AND I SAW THE FUTURES THIS
           MORNING, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to
           buy.'"
           \_ How does that make it better?
              \_ Because his thought resulted from seeing the futures numbers,
                 not simply by hearing about the attack.  And he's right on.
                 \_ So you don't find it at all tactless?
                    \_ Are you kidding?  He was asked a question about the
                       futures.  He saw the futures dip.  He answered the
                       question.  It's not tactless.  What I find appalling is
                       http://MM.org's deceptive title.
                       \_ Wow, you sure twisted yourself in knots to excuse
                          the heartless bastard.  Way to go!
                          \_ Well, you're an idiot.  Just because he saw the
                             futures numbers and didn't ignore them doesn't
                             make him heartless.  Where did the quote indicate
                             that he didn't have sympathy for the injured or
                             killed?  How is this heartless?

7/7     Anyone here works for mySimon?  How is the company doing?

7/7     Hey Motd Pruner! Could you leave entries up for 24 hours at least?
        \_ Low importance threads pruned for London discussion.  Discretion
           was used.
           \_ So... who pruned the London thread?
              \_ restored. -not pruner

7/6     Hello, I am the Chimp in Chief and I approve this message:
     .-"-.            .-"-.            .-"-.           .-"-.
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  See no casket   Hear no terror  Speak no dissent   God Bless Monkey
        \_ HA HA HA HA!  That's SOOOOO funny!
           Oh wait, no it's just stupid.

7/6     Hipster Zombies Vs. Live Action Role-Playing Nerds!!!!111!!
        http://csua.org/u/cmh

7/7     eric, is it safe to assume that people with last names like
        "Van De Whatever" and "Van Der Whatever" must have had
        Dutch ancestors?
        \_ How about adoptions?
        \_ How about adoptions?  Or a native taking up the the last name of
           a colonial?
        \_ How about people how change their name to that just because they
           feel like it?
        \_ "van" means "from" in Dutch, so unless that's true for another
           language that's most likely the case.  Note that Dutch or variants
           of Dutch are spoken in multiple countries - eric
           \- where is mario van peebles from?
              \_ He was born in Mexico. I'm going to guess that somewhere
                 down the line he has family from Holland or one of the
                 Dutch colonies like Aruba, Indonesia, or South Africa.

7/6     Most of the time you:
        Serious Answers:
          Cook food yourself: .
          Eat out: .
          Eat what parents' cook: .
          Eat what in-laws cook: .
          Married, you cook: .
          Married, wife cooks: .
        Not Serious:
          Eat wife out: .
          Eat yourself:
          Eat parents:
          Eat in-laws: .*****
          \_ Mrs. Robinson
          Eat wife: .
          Cook self and wife: .
          Cook self and whatever you are dating at the time: .

7/6     Does anyone work with MQ Series? (A WebSphere product) Any
        guidelines or advice? How much do
        you like, appreciate the products features, capabilities?
        \_ I dont use it directly, but I now several applications groups in
           my company do and are quite happy with it.  So much so that they
           plan on increasing their usage of it. --ERic
        \_ I've dealt with it before, but mainly the "getting it to work in
           weird network environments" part.  Drop me a mail at my other
           address if you want me to put you in touch with some really hard-
           core MQ guys.  -John

7/6     Most of the time you:
          Eat Out
          Eat your parents food: .
          Eat your parents out
          Eat your in-laws' food: .
          Cook for yourself: .
          Eat wife's cooking: .
          Cook for self and wife: .
          Cook for self and whatever you are dating at the time: .
                            \_ damn. you got low standards. I thought only
                               Republicans fucked mules.

7/6     Jesus can cure inmates! If only they do the same with gays:
        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/30/eveningnews/main705598.shtml

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This is what happens when you fucking LIBERALS mess with me.
        \_ You put ascii art on the motd?  Hmm...I don't think that's going
           accomplish much.      -moderate

7/5     Does anyone know what the smile \*0*/ means?  I can't find it in the
        smiley dictionaries returned by Google.  Thanks.
        \_ Bulging muscles?
        \_ Bozo the Clown?  Carrot Top?  My sagging boobs flip up high? --jon

7/1     Has anybody used those giant vaccum bags for compressing clothes
        and linens? Do they stay compressed after say 6mos or do they
        leak and expand?

6/30    What is this? A mirror? Who is this guy?
        http://sco3.petrofsky.org
        http://www.csua.net
        \_ at a guess, mail alpetrof@csua.berkeley.edu to ask.  -tom
           \_ You're an idiot.
        \_ Both are CNAMEs to http://www.csua.berkeley.edu not mirrors.  --dbushong

6/30    Someone please call the motd format god.

6/29     We need data entry people for a super short term project ASAP.
        It pays $20/hr and would be good for a bored undergraduate.
        Contace me if you are interested. -ausman
        \_ ocr & scripting?

6/28    Who is the greatest American?  ... Oh my.
        http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican

6/29    Justice O'Connor resigns.
        \_ source?
        \_ Wow, a story not even Drudge has.
        \_ Are we so bored that we're writing SCOTUS fanfic?
           \_ link:csua.org/u/cj9 --danh
              \_ That's why people say you ain't right.

6/27    How much do people trust <DEAD>anonymizer.com<DEAD>?  What's their reputation for
        privacy, and what can they do (how much of your information can they
        protect) if they are subpoenaed to turn over evidence?

6/27    How much do people trust http://www.anonymizer.com  Do they have a good
        reputation for privacy, and how much can they protect your infomation
        if they are subpoenaed?

6/27    The Next Big Idea (for liberals):
        http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2005/06/26/the-next-big-idea

6/26    where is this?
        link:tinyurl.com/9r5gr
        \_ photoshop

6/24    On Win2K terminal server, how do I find out who else are also logged on
        at that time?  Thanks.
        \_ Use the terminal service manager and see who is connected and active.
           \_ Where can I run the terminal service manager?  Do I need admin
              rights to run it?  I don't have admin rights.

6/24    Even if you never sell out, the effect is the same:
        http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/23.shtml
        \_ That's infuriating, yes, but it's not as bad as selling the music to
           advertisers.  When I hear "Out of Step" playing on an SUV commercial
             \_ How is outright theft not as bad as an exchange between two
                at least marginally consenting parties?  -John
                \_ One affects my ability to enjoy Minor Threat and the other
                   doesn't.
           on TV, that's when I start smashing stuff.
        \_ When I was 16, this probably would have infuriated me.  Now its just
           funny.
        \_ I wonder why they didn't link to the whole ad, if you
           look at the whole ad, you will notice they even ripped
           off the other 'minor threat' font
              ad - link:tinyurl.com/9sva6
              cover of original Minor Threat 7"
              http://www.fuzzlogic.com/flex/gallery/dischord/minor7.jpg - danh
           \_ Dang, just looking at the first picture, I assumed Nike
              would get away with it, but that font is EXACT.  How is that
              different from Nike putting Mickey Mouse on an ad w/o
              permission? I hope Ian MacKaye sues their pants off.
              \_ Uh, not that I disagree it's a rip-off, but no, the font
                 is not the same.  Check the Os and Rs.  The font Nike used
                 is narrower overall than the Minor Threat one.
                 \_ Hmmm... I admit I'm not measuring it, but the Rs look
                    pretty much the same to me.  Nike's T is a little
                    closer to the H, and the O is slightly narrower, but I
                    just attributed that to the fact that "AJ" is wider
                    than "IN".  Certainly most things are the same, the
                    tops of the A's, and I would say, the Rs.
                    \_ They're different fonts.  Look, the 'R' in "Major"
                       is boxy.  The negative space in it consists of
                       rectangles whereas the negative space in "Minor"'s
                       'R' consists of a semicircle and a triangle.
                       Anyway, the fonts are hardly "exact".
                       \_ http://www.dictionary.com  "nitpicking".  -John

6/24    I heard that we are going to see similar list in Oakland.
        http://www.chicagopolice.org/ps/list.aspx
        \_ What happened to being innocent until proven guilty?
           I think the http://www.oaklandsnews.com guy does
           something similar somehow. - danh
           \_ The website clearly says they're innocent until proved guilty.
              \_ "So, when did you stop beating your wife?" -John
           \_ http://www.northoaklandpolice.com  -tom

6/24    Tell me again that there is no bubble:
        http://www.condoflip.com
        \_ Bubbles are for baths.
        \_ I thought it's a humor site until I clicked a few times and
           realized it's a serious site. My god, what have we become?
        \_ What really gets me is that they have trademarked the term "flip".

6/23    Is there anything fun to do at Channel Islands or Catalina Island?
        \_ Sure, puke your guts out for 3 hours trying to make it back to
           the mainland in storm weather in a tiny boat. -- ilyas
        \_ Channel I's. are a national park.  Use your imagination.
        \_ Channel Islands is a nationnal park.  Use your imagination.
           \_ sex on the beach?

6/23    What, no flamewar about Karl Rove's blatant attempt at trolling 50%
        of America?
        \_ There was not flamewar after Durbin's comments, or even Kennedy's.

6/23    "If you look at what the dictionary says about throes, it can still be
        a violent period, the throes of a revolution" -VP Cheney (June 23 2005)
        \_ Very much like the "long hard slog" spin...
        \_ To paraphrase another president, it depends on what the meaning of
           the word "throes" is.

6/23    Did I miss something?  It looks like the motd was set back 2 days.

6/22    Is this for real?  http://www.i-am-asian.com   -John
        \_ unfortunately, yes. -nivra
        \_ I won't drop my discrimination lawsuit until they start offering
           99-cents Kung Pao Select and McRoll!  -- yuen

6/21:  Is there a way to tell diff to diff the two lines it finds
       different rather than just listing the  two lines  and
       leaving it to me to figure out how they are different
       (these are really long (>>80 chars) lines)
       Thanks
        \_ ObUsePerl
        \_ you could probably use a combo of diff + {od/hd} to do this

6/21    Has anyone seen Triumph of the Will (1934)? What are your
        thoughts on it?
        \_ Nazi propaganda film?  I think you are a troll.

6/16    Is there any way to force mplayer to stop after a certain time (such as
        when recording from a continuous stream)?

6/16    Body thetans just hold one back
        \_ L Ron, why you bein' a Thetan hater?
           \_ I took a Zeta scan and it gave -1 luck.
              \_ Fallout references make me happy.

6/15    What does M. O. in cop dramas stands for?  Thx.
        \_ modus operandi

6/15    Do any sodans use CentOS? What do you think about it? We have a
        whole bunch of RHEL WS desktops that I am thinking of switching
        to CentOS (the academic price for RHEL is like $25/box, so it's not
        too bad).
        \_ It's not worth 2 cents.  haha.
           \- it is running on some linux clusters here at the lab. i dislike
              linux in general but i have not special hate for centos. i dont
              know enough to write a general pro/con list but if you have a
              specific question i may be able to give you some feedback. --psb
              \_ I am fine with RHEL. I just wonder if CentoOS has any
                 additional issues compared to it.

6/14    Help!  When are we getting our disk space and mail quota
        increased?  My mailbox is overflowing!  Help!
        \_ Uh... how 'bout you save it to another location/bounce it to gmail/
           whatever..  And really, depending on soda to reliably keep your
           data is not kosher.

6/13    hey stupid fuck: stuff from 6/10 doesn't need to be here. it's
        motd, not motw.

6/13   Computerized voting ballots?
        http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/12947.12
        dans, didnt you do a research paper on this?
        Too bad your not sited. -mrauser
        \_ I did write a paper on this (more like a treatise at its final
           length), but never managed to publish due to academic politics.
           Basically, one of the researchers I cited extensively has a fairly
           draconian policy on his/her website regarding the use/reference of
           his/her work.  I inquired with the individual and initially
           received a very positive response, but s/he then dropped off of the
           face of the earth.  I suspect the policy is aimed toward
           journalists, not academics, but since I'm not very familiar with
           the academic publishing world, I didn't want to ruffle any
           feathers.  Perhaps more importantly, my paper was fairly specific
           to web based voting systems, with an emphasis on Berkeley's
           implementation at the time.  I also get the sense that this was a
           hot issue in 2004, and thus, many more well known and reputed
           researchers were publishing on the topic at the time so being some
           random undergrad (even from Berkeley) probably didn't help much.
           Not publishing was unfortunate.  That said, I really don't regret
           it.  I had fun writing the paper, and received some credits I
           needed toward graduation. -dans

6/13    Does anyone find Pamela Anderson-like lips attractive?  Just
        curious.
        \_ In general, or in her BJ video?
        \_ You mean the infected-looking puffed-up lips like Angelina Jolie?
           They're hideous.
           \_ But they might feel good in a BJ.
              \_ On a related note, does anyone want to speculate as to whether
                 the geeks who decided to call Digital Subscriber Lines DSL
                 knew the other meaning of DSL?
                 \_ Is it the phenominally obvious meaning given the context
                    of this thread?
                 \_ I don't get it.
                    \_ My guess: Dick Sucking Lips
              \_ exactly.

6/13    A gift for you, williamc. It totally describes you:
        http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/fool.htm
        \_ How about you sign your posts and we can have this
           out in the open? I'd like to include your name/picture
           in my next submission to the Oxford English Dictionary
           for examples of both "idiot" and "coward". Thanks!
        \_ Wow, anonymous flames are so cool.

6/12    Waters re-uniting with Floyd for Live 8.
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4085966.stm
        \_ How can one get tickets for this? I've been waiting for
           them to reunite for years. Unfortunately, since it's
           an event with madonna and Paul McCartney, I can't imagine
           tickets being less than $100 or so.
           \_ http://www.live8live.com/tickets/index.shtml

6/10    Help.  More and more websites are being designed to defeat Firefox's
        popup blocking.  Is there anything that can be done besides "Don't
        visit those sites" ?
        \_ install the AdBlock extension.  -tom

6/10    Awesome.  I just found the following ad in my work's classifieds:
        Wanted: Extras to play stormtroopers in my Star Wars themed
        wedding.  I can supply uniforms.
        \_ Aren't you a little short for a groom?
           \_ aren't you a little short for yermom?