1/22    Frank Zappa on Crossfire in 1986 kicking censorship advocate butt.
        The more things change...And watch for the bit around 16 minutes
        where Lofton self-Godwins.
        http://csua.org/u/ast (ifilm.com)
        \_ Lofton makes Novak look like less of a douchebag, but only
           just.

1/21    saw this little exchange on a cspan call-in program:
        caller: I think we are powerful, and we should use that to help other.
                nations.
        host: In what way? Should we bomb them?
        caller: <pause> We have to sanction them.
        \_ Vive la libertie! Vive l'Allemand!

1/21    Jenna or Barbara?  (Barbara is the blonde?)
        \_ The non-fat one is hot.
           \_ That's be Barbara.  Jenna is the fat blonde.
        \_ Barbara is definitely hotter!
           link:csua.org/u/asi
        \_ Or Vanessa, with that big nose?
           \_ I prefer the Bushes
        \_ Among all the First Daughters, I think the Bush Twins are the best

1/21    Do you or know anyone who has Attention Deficit Disorder? ADD or
        ADHD, try this: http://www.watchminder.com
        \_ Huh, what were you talking about?

1/21    Could static electricity break a PCMCIA type3 ethernet card?

1/20    Anyone else having problems with email redirection via http://gandi.net?

1/20    Non semper ubi sub ubi

1/20    Waaaaaaa!

1/20    Today's the big day. Go on you beatniks with your Not One Damn Dime
        campaign. Less of you to crowd the stores... I think I'll go
        get a new plasma screen today.
        \_ Beatniks?
        \_ WHOOPDEEDOOO! You go do that!

1/19    Is it normal for the fed to release to mass media photos of terror
        'suspects' who have no prior record just based on an anonymous phone
        call?  It sounds like an excellent way to punish/kill a personal foe.
        \_ If the four are illegal immigrants, you have no political
           repercussions!

1/19    Does naplak (on shoes) mean leather or plastic?

1/18    What do you guys use to split MPEG files?
        \_ I use TMPGEnc.
           \_ What about combining?  Thx.
              \_ Uh, also TMPGEnc.

1/18    I know glass is SiO2, but what is 'stoneware'?
        \_ Just a guess that it is a type of clay.
           \_ Which is chemically what?
              \_ STFW maybe?  *sheesh*
              \_ Clay is Al2O3.2SiO2.2H20 in a general sense, but not all
                 clays are exactly the same.

1/18    Satire poster for W2:  (both work safe)
        http://www.latimes.com/media/graphic/2005-01/15871123.jpg
        And the original from Mad Magazine:
        <DEAD>www.distanceeddesign.com/iraq/mad-magazine.htm<DEAD>

You were warned...

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1/17    If our enemy gets rid of our satellites, can we still fight
        effective wars?
        \_ will never happen.
        \_ mebbe!!!!
        \_ most likely. MTV will be offline and a lot of
           Reservists will have to be called back from Iraq
           to keep teenagers from rebelling.

1/15    http://www.berkeleymardigras.org

1/15    Provocative, at least:
        http://www.broom.org/epic
        \_ who wrote this, some mba l0s3r?  I had to stop at "Googlezon"
           \_ I got a little farther than you, and I was still waiting for
              the "provocative" part. WARNING: CONTENT MAY CAUSE BOREDOM
              AND NAUSEA.
        \_ I don't think "provocative" means what you think it does.

1/14    [thread deleted, topics separated]

1/14    Do you shop for useless things when you are bored?
        \_ No. I just google anything and everything that comes
           into my mind.
        \_ No, I troll the motd.
        \_ http://www.dilbert.com
        \_ No, I go to either porn sites, http://www.howstuffworks.com or
           http://www.wikipedia.org  I found the latter two as addictive as porn
           sites.
           \_ ewww....
        \_ I watch my disk defrag.  Or I fuck.

1/14    old thread about Titan moved elsewhere.
           \_ Please don't politicize this. Dubya wasn't even President
              when Cassini launched and when this date was chosen.
              \_ What you meant to say was, "Please take your discussion off
                 my thread", which I'll do.
                 \_ That, too. How pathetic the person was to tie a triumph
                    of man, science, and engineering to hatred of the President
                    of one of the countries involved - a President who
                    wasn't for most of the mission.
                    \_ The message is that Dubya likes to bury bad news on
                       Friday, and the news he is burying today would be
                       particulary bad for overall public opinion of him.
                       The fact that Titan was one of the overshadowing news
                       items is not really relevant.
                       In fact, I think it is blindingly obvious to sodans
                       that Dubya had little to do with funding or promotion
                       of the Cassini mission, or the date of the Huygens
                       probe entering Titan's atmosphere - the satellite itself
                       was launched 7 years ago.
                       I was hoping by moving the post to another thread,
                       my meaning would become more clear - the other intended
                       effect being you could have a politics-free
                       discussion on this thread.
                       \_ Of course it wasn't Dubya.  It was Al Gore.
                          \_ Al Gore invented Titan.
                       \_ You're an idiot.
                          \_ Show me.  Put your money where your mouth is.
                             To be explicit, your "money" in this case is
                             your time.
                             \_ You are leaving little doubt with comments
                                like these.
                                \_ How do you respond when someone calls you
                                   an idiot?
                                   \_ For god's sake, you're arguing with dim.
                                      Stop feeding him.
                                      \_ I know it's dim.  I guess I'll stop
                                         now, since I think all the arguments
                                         are already out. -jctwu
                                         \_ Why do you hate America?
                                   \_ Amazing. You are a bigger idiot than
                                      I thought.
                           \_ Why bother even replying to an ad hominem attack?
                              \_ Most on soda pride themselves on being
                                 soundly logical, when they want to.
                                 I'm appealing to that aspect.
                                 \_ Someone who can tie Titan to Bush and
                                    then defend that decision is clearly an
                                    idiot. There's no ad hominem here.
                                    Retorts like 'To be explicit, your
                                    "money" in this case is your time.'
                                    further cement his idiocy.
                                    \_ You're an idiot.
                                       \_ I know you are, but what am I?
                                          \_ An idiot?

1/14    Poorly formatted post vwapped.  Try again with a reasonable number of
        columns.

1/14    By the way, people.  It's the 14th.
        \_ That's the motd for ya', always livin' in the past.

1/13    http://www.aetv.com/seearnoldrun
        No comment even though I voted for him, have his book, but
        oppose changing the Constitution.

1/12    Any recommendations for software that helps one generate acronyms?

1/12    Where did the wall logs go?
        \_ ask aaron
           \_ aaron, where did the wall logs go?

1/11    Hey, anybody on motd know anything or have experiences or advice about
        keeping crows or ravens as pets?  TIA.
        \_ I knew a guy who tried it. He quoth, "nevermore, nevermore."
           \_ That bad, eh?  Suck.   -op
        \_ No, get an Mac Mini.
        \_ I thought it couldn't be done, but I had to eat crow.
           \_ What did it taste like?  Chicken, I assume?  It doesn't sound
              pleasant.    -op

1/10    Man, the iMini is so cute. If its a PC and I can install my
        software on it, I'll dump my big box.

1/10    So does aaron only hate a few religions?  Or is he an equal opportunity
        bigot?
        \_ He's on wall.  Why don't you ask him yourself? -meyers

1/10    Has anyone tried WinXP Media Center Edition? Good/bad/comments?
        \_ No, get an iMac Mini.
           \_ Yeah I see the vivo ports on the Mac Mini.

1/10    Update on google scholar Erdos number calculator request.
        I got an automated reply, which I translated as 'no.'  Ah well.
          -- ilyas

1/10    Jabber people, which Linux client do you use? There's about 27 of them.
        \_Psi.
        \_ Gaim.

1/8     I've found that you can pay $10 or $20 for a trick

1/7     U.N. Troops Exploited Congo Girls (from 13yr old and up).  I say
        we do a regime change of UN now!

1/6     Arrgggg I told you lazy ass to bike ride but NOOOOO! Now we're
        trailing Seattle: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143460,00.html

1/6     What is the difference between the rated and unrated versions of
        9 1/2 Weeks?
        \_ half a week

1/6     Too much politics on the motd. Can we talk about girls?
        \_ In Soviet Union, girls talk about you!
           \_ If this were the case, most of the those here would have
              relocated by now.
              \_ Nobody said they're saying good things about you.
                 \_ But if it can get them a green card, I bet they are!
                    \_ Well, they might say ONE nice thing about you, then.
                       \_ Yeah, "I do"
           \_ That would be nice for a change.
        \_ What is a girl? Is it some new linux distro?

1/5     Message from Iraq: link:tinyurl.com/48lpn
        Yes this is a propaganda video, but nowadays, what isn't?

1/5     What is the best open source spreadsheet program on *nix?  I tried
        open offce some time ago and it seemed awful.  I don't need fancy
        features.  Just basic functionality, few bugs.  tnx
        \- well there is oleo and various emacs options.
        \_ What version did you try? OO is functional nowadays with 1.3.
           meaning no big bugs. It's still soemwhat slow, so not recommended
           if you're running it on crap machine.
        \_  sc seems to work for trivial stuff.
        \_ I use ooffice as in Fedora Core 3 with no problem and good
           functionality.  --PeterM

1/5     Man, I'm trying to log into bearfacts and it's taking a week.
        What's up?
        \_ winter hibernation
           \_ buh-duh-CHA!

1/5     I ran across the word "ipseity" in a poem, and I'm wondering about
        the root ipse, which the oed defines as, "truly himself..." for you
        latin enthusiasts, does this word have an included gender, or is
        the oed just defaulting to male?  Is there an equivalent female or
        gender neutral pronoun?
        \_ please. no poem reading here.. unless it's to solve
        a quest in MUD or something.
        \_ nm!  google says, "ipsa  ipsum," although it doesn't have the
           english "borrow word" connotation of ipse.

1/3     Where is the love ewe that we demanded for njh?  He is lonely! - root

1/2     What's the best way to destroy a DVD?
        \_ for some definition of best, burn it or nuke it.
        \_ stick it in a microwave for a couple minutes.  I have no idea
           how safe this is, but it'll destroy the dvd.

1/2     US often does not deliver the money it pledges.
                http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/30/opinion/30thu2.html
                \-I believe the US gives more private charity than
                  Europe and the US also makes a lot of non money
                  contributions [security burden, say w.r.t. to
                  Korea, Taiwan, Japan, NATO etc]. I think these
                  aggregate numbers dont however capture some
                  distribution issues. For example the US has
                  given $200bn in aid to Israel alone [pop ~6m]
                  over the last 30yrs. If you take out Israel,
                  Egypt and Philippines, the total numbers are
                  pretty low. --psb
                  \_ give me a break.  We were "protecting" Phillipines,
                     but when Japanese invaded, we gave up that island
                     without putting up with a good fight.  Those "security"
                     burden are imposed by USA themselves for USA's own
                     interest.  To compare what US 7th fleet doing versus
                     donations from Red Cross is ridiculous.
                     \- nobody is calling this kind of thing humanitarian
                        aid, and some of it is certainly self-serving. however
                        this kind of "hegemonic stability" does have real
                        benefits. to take a less controversial example, take
                        the US GPS satellites. the US certainly spent more
                        resources in europe's backyard in the post-yugoslavia
                        conflict than a lot of the countries criticizing the
                        US. i think it's clear i'm not an apologist for
                        the us govt like some hacks here, but the simplitic
                        view on aid does miss some very relevant considerations.
                        --psb
                        \_ I called that American Imperalism.  And there are
                           plenty of downside to it.  You probably don't live
                           outside USA often, you have no idea what kind of
                           misdeed Amercan has done to other nations, from
                           as benign as bending trade rules to American
                           advantage (DMCA, currency manipulatn) to overthrown
                           of governments (Iran, Chili, Guatemala, and now,
                           Afganistan and Iraq); not to mention our barbaric
                           policy toward dozen Arab nations which spawn radical
                           Fundamental Islamic movement we are facing today.
                           It is hard to see the downside of it unless some
                           other country is dominating the world.  Given the
                           choice, I would much prefer three to five
                           dominating powers in the world than American
                           hegemony.    -kngharv
                  \_ Maybe this is off-topic, but no one really has a
                     right to complain. The fifth fleet and US military
                     has secured Middle East oil for 15 y.  World sea
                     commerce prospers because the US Navy, and less so
                     \- well, it's not only the USNavy ... for example the
                        indian navy does some anti-piracy stuff in the
                        indian ocean. not all the security issues are
                        state vs state, "high politics" and national
                        security, but yeah there are a lot of free-
                        riding and coat tail effects [like the us funded
                        tsunami monitoring program] but a lot of that is
                        pocket change. the US's real power is to shape
                        things in "convenient" directions ... like in
                        the area of IP regimes ... like the GE/Chakraborty
                        oil eating bacteria case that opened the door to
                        orgaism patents, but the place with soverignty
                        over where some useful organism is found in nature
                        doesnt necessarily have any rights [say amazon],
                        or the exceptions to free trade [steel, agri,
                        textiles] etc.
                        \_  India doesn't have a blue water navy, only the
                            US and less so Britain.  I would not call
                            maintaining the US Navy and enforcing the doctrine
                            of MAD during the Cold War or ABM now as
                            "pocket change".
                            \_ "ABM"? You mean anti-missile defense? You
                               have got to be fucking kidding me.  Yeah,
                               without the charity of the American tax payer,
                               those poor defense contractors might actually
                               have to build useful stuff that actually fucking
                               works.  Let us all take a moment to thank God
                               and the GOP for giving them this bounty of pork.
                               \_ TMD already functions... I'm not fucking
                                  kidding you.
                                  \_ wtf is TMD?  Total missile defense?
                                     I don't believe it, and if it existed,
                                     it would be instant missile crisis.
                                     Related question: Why does W trust the
                                     ABM but tests the kids every year to make
                                     sure?
                                     \_ TMD == The Mean Dude. He's a 280 lbs
                                        redneck who sits on a rock on Kodiak
                                        island with a billion dollar
                                        shotgun and hundred million dollar
                                        shells.  If he sees a missile with
                                        a North Korean flag on it go over head,
                                        he takes long pull from his flask of
                                        hundred million dollar moonshine and
                                        blasts away.  TMD has an over 75%
                                        success rate against all road sign
                                        test targets.
                            \- there are problems the US doesnt consider of
                               interest and the dont devote resources to it.
                               i am not saying the us's "hegemony" doesnt
                               have widespread benefits. i gave a specific
                               example of "regional maritime policing". i didnt
                               say they have a global projection capability
                               and i am not sure why it is important to decide
                               whether it is a "blue water fleet" or not. --psb
                     the British, secures the high seas.  No one else
                     has a blue water navy.  And don't overlook the paltry
                     contribution of a few trillion during the Cold
                     War.
                \_ People took it for granted, but if the US had not
                   wiped out the aborigines, the world would have been
                   under the tyranny of the indians.  There would be no silicon
                   implant nor viagra.  The whole world benefited from US!!!

[restored again.]

1/2     Someone explain the difference between waist, inseam, and all these
        fancy sartorial terminologies? Thanks.
        \_ You know what "sartorial" is but you don't know what "waist" and
           "inseam" are?
        \_ STFW
        \_ You do know what a dictionary is don't you?
        \_ fancy ... only if you like wearing potato sacks
        \_ waist = circumference   inseam = length inside leg
           rise = length from crotch to waist
           outseam = overall length from cuff to waist
           inseam + rise = outseam

12/31   CompSci, my Anti-Drug:
        link:csua.org/u/aja (SomethingAwful pic, worksafe)
        \_ A blackboard in a computer lab?

12/30   Useless fact of the week. If you're flying and both the pilots
        are incapacitated and you're taking over, don't forget to squawk
        7700 and broadcast on 121.5 on the main channel, *not the
        stand-by channel*. If you've subdued the hijacker, then squawk
        7500.  Ok bye.

12/30   Has something changed with newsreading?  Now if I set aside my login
        (putty session) for a while (10-20 minutes) I get a closed socket.

12/29   njh: what's with link:csua.org/u/ahw ?

12/29   A while back I remember seeing a headline like "80% of outsourced
        projects fail", but now I can't find it.  Does anyone know what I'm
        talking about and have a link to the sory?
        \_ That's pretty funny.  Before outsourcing became big, I was reading
           that 80% of all (large) software projects fail.  I think it's also
           true that > 80% of any software project runs over budget and behind
           schedule.
           \_ Most likely it's from The Mythical Man Month, which has that
              direct statistic.
           \_ That's why I want to find that story--to revisit the details.
           \_ 99% of the women sodan males fantasize about wouldn't give them
              the time of day.  Actually, that's probably true of males in
              general.
              \_ 99% of the women we fantasize about are best left as
                 fantasies.

12/29   Hello, my dad is beginning to have hard hearing and a lot of
        times I have to shout on the phone. I've heard that there are
        phones for the hearing impaired, but rather than increasing the
        volume (which will further help in degenerating the hearing),
        the phone "exaggerates" the pitch to give more crisp, clear
        intonations. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and
        where to try it in person, and maybe point URLs? ok thx.
        \_You should get him a bone-induction amp. Military uses them, don't
          know if they have civilian models.
        \_ http://www.thephoneresource.com (expensive shipping)
           http://www.soundclarity.com (good price, decent shipping)
           http://harriscomm.com (decent price, decent shipping)

12/26   [47] soda //var/>df -h /var
        Filesystem    Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
        /dev/da0s1f   992M   915M  -2.3M   100%    /var

        trouble.  can't send email.
        \_ Fixed, with jvarga's help.  Thanks for reporting it.  --mconst
        \_ thanks, jvarga

12/26   mail problems again?  anyone know why this keeps happening? Thanks.
        /dev/da0s1f   992M   918M  -4.8M   101%    /var
        \_ I cleaned 400MB of crap out of /var/tmp yesterday; don't know what
           filled it up so fast.  Might have been the 25k odd mail processes
           throwing junk in the logs.  Am looking into things. - jvarga

12/25   Merry Christmas and God bless our troops, may they come home safely!

12/26   kate blanchett makes up for any sins committed in lord
        of the rings by being awesome in "The Aviator"
        \_ What sins were those, exactly?
        \_ Check her out in 'Elizabeth'.
        \_ Sins? I thought her Galadriel was one of the best things about those
           movies. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

12/24   What's the cheapest way to get a legit version of WinXP Pro?
        \_ get someone who has already bought a (non-bundled) legit
           copy and use that licence to buy another at a discount
           (I think you can buy like 3 discounted copy for every 1
           bought retail).
           \_ Ah, thanks that's prefect!

12/23   Vhet heppened tu zee gooy thet ves ilyeseeng zee mutd unteel
        chreestmes? Deed he-a joost geefe-a up, oor is thet seelliness
        steell gueeng oon? Bork Bork Bork!

12/22   Is it my imagination, or has the level of noise about alien abduction
        sightings, and conspiracies in popular culture gone down over the last
        four years?
        \_ Far too much actual conspiracy to deal with the wacko alien shit.
           Abu Ghraib torture, Gitmo, EPA... even this whole attempt to paint
           Iraq and Al Quaeda with the same brush.
           \_ yeah, one of the DU admins has "skinner" as his login
        \_ Hmm, 2000 seems like the year when X-Files started to suck.
           Wonder if there is any coincidence?

12/22   I've finally gotten around to trolling around in craigslist (best of
        is damn hilareous).  WTF does "pnp" and "420" mean?
        \_ I'm surprised you don't know 420.  It means "pot is ok".  PnP
           is a little rarer.  It means "Party and Play".  Sex while high,
           usually speed or X.
           \_ thx!, one more: D&D (drugs & drinking)?
              \_ Dungeons and Dragons.
        \_ What's "Tina"?
           \_ Crystal meth
              \_ Why is it called Tina?
                 \_ Some people call it 'my friend Chrissy' which becomes
                    'Christina' and then 'Tina'.

12/21  Protest the protests, because, let's face it, you can't make
       a fucking difference anymore (should've figured that one out
       when your candidate was still running!)

12/21   So how 'bout that memo.  Few bad apples, huh?  All the way up to
        Rummy.  Possibly even by Executive Order.
        \_ ???
           \_ Maybe this?
              http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4116601.stm
           \_ I think he's trying to troll the sentence fragment guy.
        \_ The hell?

12/21   Does disabling finger info (~/.nofinger) help reduce spam that I
        receive?  Thanks.
        \_ no.
           \_ I won't use it then.  Thx.

12/21   Since there are only about a dozen of us checking the motd this week,
        please exercise a modicum of restraint in deleting the interesting
        threads on our (fictional) social lives.  Thank you.
        \_ Niether rain nor shine nor vaction time shall keep the nuker
           from his rounds.
        \_ Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be
           bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
           or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until
           drivel are dead.
           \_ ^terminator^ilyas
           \_ Wow, this was almost funny.

12/18   MS TerraServer is GREAT but it is US only. Are there other [free]
        servers out there for Europe and Asia? Thanks.

12/18   John, please send more American trash bashing European humour
        links please!!!                                 -John #1 fan

12/17   Does Jen on The Apprentice have ample bosom?  I can't find any pics of
        her below the neck.

12/13   John, thank you for sharing those European humour links, I
        love them! Please keep it up, thanks...   -all hail John
        \_ nuked because I have no humor
           \_ and a small penis.

12/17   Did she say nig* go home? Is she a racist?
        http://postarchives.entensity.net/062703/media/whereismychange.wmv

12/17   She says she's not a l33+ hax0r:
        http://postarchives.entensity.net/052303/media/hax0r.wmv

12/16   HAHA Jen was fired.
        \_ Who?
           \_ on The Apprentice.
        \_ HOT.

12/16   Is anyone selling Holiday Bowl tickets? The agencies want too
        much money for Cal football.
        \_ why bother? it's not the Rose Bowl..
           \_ My nephew plays football and lives in San Diego. It would be
              fun to go with him.

12/16   Anyone know why agate is not receiving any new articles?

12/16   Remember those missing WMD? They have been found!
        http://csua.org/u/ae0 (CalTech)

12/16   Bobby Fischer, found: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6722046
        \_ Isn't this, like, months old?
           \_ His detention is months old, his residency offer from Iceland is
              not.
              \_ Then say that in the link description

12/16   Life not going anywhere, haven't accomplished much, getting mildly
        discouraged about things in general.  Anyone have experience with
        temporary insanity as an option?  Considering spending a few years
        sitting on an island yelling at trees or similar.  How are the
        benefits?  Downsides?  Is this a worthwhile career move?
        \_ Why not become a logger and get paid for it?  You'll learn exciting
           new ways to use the English language to yell at trees, and make
           enough money to support youreslf on top of it.  Oh, yeah, and
           read "Into the Wild" by Krakauer to give you an idea of what *not*
           to do.
           \_ Stop shrinking forests.
        \_ Sounds like yet another reality show.  Yawn.
        \_ Try doing something. It helps.
        \_ Try Paxil.
        \_ Whatever madness you indulge, do it somewhere away from people, or
           they will call the cops to 5150 you, and you will end up under
           observation for 72 hours.
        \_ I'm not the only one who is feeling this then.  - !op

12/15   A little gift to atom:
          ________________
         /                \
        / /          \ \   \
        |                  |
       /                  /
      |      ___\ \| | / /
      |      /          \
      |      |           \
     /       |      _    |
     |       |       \   |
     |       |       _\ /|     I am Corn Julio!!! I need TP for my
     |      __\     <_o)\o-    bunghole!!!! Where we come from we
     |     |             \     have no bungholes...Would you like
      \    ||             \    to be my bunghole?
       |   |__          _  \    /
       |   |           (*___)  /
       |   |       _     |    /
       |   |    //_______/
       |  /       | UUUUU__
        \|        \_nnnnnn_\-\
         |       ____________/
         |      /
         |_____/
        \_ "Corn Julio"?

12/15   A little fun from The Onion (unless you're in PETA)
        http://theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4049&n=1

12/15   When did Wonkette get to be so boring?  Bring back the anal stories!
        \_ When was she ever interesting?

12/15   Which one of these do you like?  (it's enrollment season again):
        Blue Shield:
        Kaiser:
        Aetna:

12/15   Anyone know where I can find a complete archive of 'Dysfunctional
        Family Circus'?  All I can find is little collections here and there.
        \_ http://www.drivenbyboredom.com/gallery/gallery.php?x=26 isn't
           big enough for you?  It looks like Bill Keane slapped a C&D order
           on the sites hosting the full material.
           \_ There are something like 500 in existence, and I've seen a lot
              better than those.
           \_ I second this. The true Dysfunctional Family Circus totally
              rocked, much more than this site does.
                \_ http://www.ubersite.com/m/30671 ?
                \_ was there really a "true" one?  Looking in the archive, it
                   looks like it was always a collaborative effort
                   "(Last change 15 Mar 94.)"

12/14   I am thinking of taking intro to complex analysis course with
        Daniel Geba. Has anyone had an analysis course with him before?
        What are your impressions? Is he a good lecturer?

12/14   attention Nerds - Lord of the Rings ROTK Extended Version out today
        \_ pfft.  you're so 16 hours ago.
           \_ Indeed. -- ilyas
              \_ you're so 16 years old.
                 \_ Yeah, I wish I could stay 16 forever. -- ilyas
                  \_ Mentally you have!  Half is better than none right?

12/14   Anyone have any experience with distributed computing using Matlab?
        -nivra
        \_ yeah, install matlab locally on every compute node.

12/13   Poll: Enter your favourite cartoon from childhood, I'll start:
        Smurfs:
        Tiny Toons: .
          \_ "We're Tiny, we're toony, we're all a little looney!"
             Ah those were the good 'ol days I miss dearly.
             Those were the days that mom and pop were still
             together and we ate Thxgiving/X-mas meals together
             and I even got X-mas gifts. Now I just sit in my cramped
             up stinking cubicle 6 days a wk 60hrs a wk debugging
             other ppl's code and talking to dumb ass clients.
             I hate Silicon Valley.
        Transformers: ...
        Animaniacs:
        \_ Wow. Young kids on here? As in undergrads? No way!
           \_ bh
        GI Joe: .
        Robotech:.
        Gummy Bears: .
        Thundercats: .
        Nu Pogodi: .
        La Blue Girl: .
        Macross: .
        \_ if you combine the top two entries, you may accidentally read:
                Lacrosse Girl
        Voltron: .
        He-man: .
        Star Blazers: .

12/13   A curious thing. Just a couple of days ago I ran "sa-learn --dump
        magic" and the output indicated I have gone from >200 hams to 0
        somehow. As a results, Bayes reporting has shut off since I am now
        below the minimum. Stranger still, I attempted to re-train on my
        mail folders and the results indicated SA already knoews about the
        messages. Time to update to 3.0, perhaps?

12/13   does anyone know how much ikea charges for a tin of gingersnaps?
        i have a bet (for 10 tins) with someone about the cost. it's an
        under/over $5 bet.
        \_ Call them and ask?
           \_ Maybe op's bet is really about the perceptions of IKEA prices
              by Berkeley CS alumni.  Or maybe he's just a dumbass.

12/13   Does anyone know the address to the xclones mailing list?

12/13   Dear Missionaries who wouldn't go away, would you prefer
        being pointed with MP-40 or MP-44?

12/13   Salon has an excellent interview with Joel On Software; it's also a
        nice collection of links to some of the best advice Joel has to offer.
        http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/12/09/spolsky

12/02   Does target's amazon store ever do free shipping?  What's the minimum?

12/9    Anyone have the Dell 2005FPW 20.1-inch Wide screen? How is it?
        \_ I don't know, but I'm ordering one right now for $600
           \_ Did you get the 25% coupon off? is the $600 after everything?
              I am looking for a 25% off coupon to get mine...
              \_ No, right now they are all 20% off already, then there
                 was another coupon that took it down to something like $594

12/9    Hale my Leader Dubya!
        link:csua.org/u/a9h (Yahoo! photo)
        http://www.farshot.com/images/stories/Articles/george_bush_fly_web.jpg

12/9    I find XP's sorting of active applications bad (the order when you
        press alt-tab), is there any way to adjust this behavior? I constantly
        find applicatiosn I just used at the end of the fucking list.
        \_ Try alt-shift-tab (move backwards/leftwards in the alt-tab list)
        \_ It's not "bad" it's just not what you want.  If you minimize an app,
           it goes to the end.
           \_ I'm guessing you're an engineer or sys admin unfamiliar with
              the concept of "reasonable defaults".
              \_ Where "reasonable defaults" is defined as "read my mind?"
                 Yeah, I'm familiar with dumbfucks like you.
                 \_ By your hostile tone, I'd guess your answer to be 'yes'.
                 \_ Are you angry about your past relationship(s)?

12/9    link:tinyurl.com/4fl33
        Banner program, very appropriate...

12/8    Via Drum: http://csua.org/u/a8p (LA Times)
        Since someone mentioned the housing bubble yesterday.

12/7  Hot girl, must get a G4, work safe:
      http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/610617f5/g4.jpg&cb=20041107232134

172,490c169

12/7    Where does the extra hole come from?
        http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/17c99443
        \_ The hypotenuses of the two big shapes aren't the same. They aren't
           true triangles.
           \_ exactly. the top hypotenuse does not go through the point (5,2)
              whereas the bottom one does. Use the lower left corner as (0,0)
                \_ Don't pictures like these usually include a
                   "Not drawn to scale" fine print? The correct answer is
                   one of the triangle has a slope of m=2/5 and the other
                   has a slope of m=3/8.
                   \_ It is drawn to scale.  If you look closely, you'll notice
                      the long edges of both shapes do not form a straight
                      line.
        \_ There comes a time in everyone's life, when... uh, go ask your
           mother...
        \_ Where does the extra hole come from?
           http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/382433df
        \_ "Apollo 11 customs declaration"
           http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/203000bf
           Is this real?

12/7   This reads kind of hokey:
       http://rawstory.com/images/pdfs/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf  -John
       \_ The melodrama of the FDOT IG found dead certainly smacks of
          delusion, but I'd still like to see this investigated.
          \_ I was more thinking of the wording..."and then evil Prof.
             Smithers forced me to use my x-tron ray on the innocent
             civilians, and I said, 'no Prof. Smithers, you can't do that',
             and Prof. Smithers said 'ha! ha ha!  we'll never take over the
             world otherwise" yada yada...as you say, melodramatic.

12/7   Happy Eight Day Fire Hazard!
       \_ What fire hazard?  It just rained this morning.
       \_ So, nu?  You're not using the smoke detector your mother and I
          got you?  Oh, I get it, your apartment's too good for a
          smoke-detector.  Fine, see if we care.  It'll break your mother's
          heart, but don't let that stop you, Mr. "I'm too sophisticated for
          Smokey the Bear."
        \_ Adam Corolla was hilarious tonight, asking about how many mobile
           homes had burnt down as a result of menorah fires.

12/5    any good book for gnome customization (not programming?)  thx

12/5    williamc is an idiot.

12/3    Why is it that most of the Southern Indians I've met know very little
        social etiquettes? Why is that? I'm baffled.
        \_ you need to be more specific.
        \_ Social ettiquette... there's a white American guy at my work who
           always does disgusting things. Like scratching inside his nose,
           biting his nails and then sniffing his fingers, spitting a piece
           of fingernail on the floor, and one time I turn around and he's
           sitting there with a nail clipper and brushing his clippings on
           my cubicle floor. I'm looking for a new job.
           \_  I'm disgusting and looking for a new job.  Is your firm hiring?
        \_ When your civilization is several thousand years old, you will
           realize that childish notions such as etiquette are irrelevant.

12/2    Godzilla: Final Wars hits theates in Japan tomorrow.  It's
        already previewed in LA.  Does anyone know when it's getting a
        full US release?
        \_ Do Terrorists plan to demolish Tokyo with Godzilla as a weapon of
           mass destruction?

12/1    <DEAD>makelovenotspam.com<DEAD>

12/1    A while back, some folks expressed opinions regarding prolog
        implementations. I didn't find them grepping the motd archive.
        I'm looking to embed some logic system into a larger product,
        any recommendations?                            -- Marco
        \_ I like yap and xsb.  -- ilyas

12/1    for those of you going christmas shopping
        read my repeat post from yesterday:
        http://csua.com/?entry=35126

11/30   At what age did you receive your first blow job?
                \_ The bronze age?
        \_ 2nd grade: ..
        \_ 3rd grade: .
        \_ Junior High: ...
        \_ 10th grade: ..
        \_ Sophomore year of college: ..
        \_ Kindergarten: ..
        \_ 27: .
        \_ Never! (so far): ...

11/30   [Probably deserves its own thread]
          I don't think I've ever seen an official upgrade proposal or
          a request for donation.  Do you have a pointer to either?
          \_ I could have sworn there was an official posting on
             this... I'll look around or post again.  Soda is gettin
             some dual P4 Xeon luvin (I have yet to figure out how to
             get them to burn a hole in the machine room wall, but I am
             definitely trying).  Ooodles of disk space and RAM come
             with it too.  Depending on how our finances look (ASUCk
             money, donations, etc), we are seriously considering
             offloading mail handling to another machine (and putting
             virus scanning into the mix to kill off some of that
             pesky virus-laden mail).  We are also looking to give some
             of the other servers face lifts (upgrades to somewhat
             modern technology like motherboards without ISA slots like
             a high-end PIII or something cheap).
             Everyone will be getting some quota love... maybe up to
             100-150MB (don't quote me on this, it isn't set in stone
             yet because we don't know how much disk we can buy or
             even what is considered reasonable).
             I'd love to give official specs on what we are planning,
             but those are changing because of finances. - jvarga
             \_ I think everyone else on the motd has asked already,
                but why dual Xeons?  It's a fine choice, apart from
                the fact that it runs warmer, slower, and is more
                expensive.
                \_ Why? It's a stable and proven platform supported
                  by a wide range of integrators (including Dell).  I
                  don't give a damn about  whether AMD is 15% faster or
                  slower as long as the reqs. above are satisfied.
                  Chances are you won't notice the speed difference as
                  CPU is just one of several components that impact it.
                  (not speaking for the CSUA though).
                  \_ As an organization living off the kindness of
                     others, I would certainly hope that the CSUA
                     is prudent with its spending.  Xeon is likely
                     not the best performance/cost trade-off cpu.
                     AMD64 is in IBM, HP, and Sun, I think, and is
                     just as stable a hardware platform.
                \_ We've all asked and have never been given an answer.
                  I think they pulled the choice out of their spleen
                  and have no satisfactory reason.
                  \_ Xeons are just cool.  They SOUND cool.  They sound
                     like ZENA, which of course gets all the comp nerds
                     all in a titty twister over the whole thing.
                     \_ Not to mention the NEAT-O Intel Inside sticker
                        you get with a Xeon box!
                      \_ It's Xena, foolio!
                  \_ We wanted to go with a dual CPU system.  This
                     leaves us with PIIIs, Athlons, Opterons, or Xeons.
                     PIIIs aren't worth buying, I've heard lots of
                     problems with the Athlon chipsets, FreeBSD has
                     been reported unstable on Opterons, which leaves
                     Xeons.
                     \_ Sounds reasonable to me.  I've had some
                        trouble with Linux on Opterons as well.  --PM
                     \_ This is no longer true with the 5.3 release.
                        \_ Hardware was purchased about a week before
                           5.3 was released. --njh
                           \_ That's a shame.  I am sure there were many
                              people here (me included) tracking the 5.3
                              release, and we could have given you a heads
                              up.

11/30   (Semi-)humorous threads deleted.  Scorched earth policy continues.
        \_ One of these days one of us will find out who you are.  Fuck
           you and die.  you're playing with fire, motherfucker.

11/30   Tom Ridge resigns. Finally!
        \_ what was so bad about him? - danh
                \_ He came up with the color coded terror threat level thing.
                   \_ yeah that was pretty much waving the "i'm a moron" flag.
        \_ I think he had a really thankless job, he had to build from the
           ground up an insanely huge agency.  he was one of the lesser
           evil cabinet members, maybe not evil at all. - danh
           \_ Not really from the group up, he just merged a bunch of
              existing agencies.
              \_ that is still an important task.
              \_ Actually, this may have been much harder than building it
                 up from scratch. Trying to merge large departments together
                 to work with one another can be exceedingly difficult.
                 \_ I was there.  The amount of politicking and special
                    group project compromises were astounding.  Our gov't
                    contracting co was affected, and we were on the periphery
                    (src/bin evals for USN).
        \_ Can't they replace him with that torturer?
        \_ Can't they replace him with that torturer Gonzalez?

11/30   It's colder than...
        A witch's tit:
        Dick Cheney's black heart: .

11/28   thread describing totally realistic plans to upgrade soda storage
        has been nuked.  --root

11/28   So what is TDA?
        \_ terabyte disk array

11/28   I was browsing http://foxnews.com and saw an ad for http://bigchurch.com, "Find
        Christian Singles in your city!"  Only on Fox.

I am the cheese

11/27   Find out what people in the Red States do for fun (humor video):
        http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=83
        also at http://www.sf42.com/skycutter40.wmv
        Flying lawn mower

11/27   I'm trying to find information on the pros/cons of using
        WebMD (and other health care information websites), and have
        been pretty unsuccessful googling. Does anyone know of
        sites that discuss such topics? Thanks.

11/27   ONE MORE ILYAS THE WHOLE MOTD GOES.             -meyers
        \_  THAT'S WHAT YERMOM SAID.
        \_ I'll stop ilyasing if you stop meyering.

11/25   How did Joel Short die?

11/25   I think it's kind of hilarious that all the domains
        {fatah,plo,islamicjihad,hamas,pflp}.org are taken by squatters.  -John
        \_ funnier if they had made it into a satire site ridicueing the
           Muslim religion or the Jihadists.
           \_ it could be! for the low low price of...

11/25   Soda crashed again (panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry).

11/24   For Ilyas: http://www.jpfo.org/brascard.htm
        \_ JPFO rocks.  They have the 'ask the rabbi' section and everything.
             -- ilyas
        \_ Gah.  Please tell me the recent victims of the hunting incident
           in Wisconsin weren't JPFO members.  This is messy enough already.

11/24   Have a stream of data (latency numbers for webpage requests).
        Need the running median, approximate ok.  How do I get this
        without storing all the data?
        \_ Are you the dude asking about 'variability' earlier?
        \_ Make 'bins', say 0-10ms, 11-20ms, 21-30ms, ... and store how many
           samples fall into each bin.  You can then find the median within
           <binsize> accuracy and it will use <max-latency>/<binsize> ints.
           Latencies greater than <max-latency> can be put in their own special
           bin but don't forget them when finding the median.
           \_ Thanks. -op
           Now, assuming you have this setup and know the true average, how do
           you find the standard deviation?
        \_ Try R: http://www.r-project.org

11/24   I've been ripping a lot of my CDs with iTunes, and I've noticed some
        sort of UUID number in the comment field.  Any ideas as to what these
        represent?

11/24   Thread was deleted out of order.  The spirit of ilyas demands
        justice!  FEAR THE ILYAS!!!
        \_ This is great, my trembling minions do my bidding, while I am
           not even around. -- ilyas

11/23   Quick MOTD poll:
        Yay!  Tofurkey!:
        Tofurkey--A Crime Against Nature: ...
        To-Whatever:
        Turduckin: .

11/23   The question of the day is how long until spongebob squarepants is
        caught in a Miami porn theatre.
        \_ The question is how National Treasure was the highest grossing
           film this past weekend.
                \_ Because it's SOOOOOOO hard to make more money than
                   a spongebob squarepants.
                   \_ dude spongebob ruled.
           \_ Did you see it?

11/22   PSB and others who know history have got to love this billboard in
        Florida: http://img12.paintedover.com/uploads/12/billboardsecond.jpg
        \_ One country, one constitution, one future!
        \_ The glorious revolution marches ever onward!
        \-http://www.cafepress.com/ipa_politics.14487589?zoom=yes#zoom --psb

11/23   This explains quite a bit:
        http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14107
        \_ well, duh!

11/22   ilyas ever seen a shrink for your tantrum?

11/22   Ilyas, how was Santa Monica, you had fun on the Third Street?
        \_ Pretty good, Kevin.  How are you? -- ilyas
             \_ You're on drugs, he hasn't logged in for a while.
                \_ You're stupid.  he still runs commands.
                   \_ kchang is famously paranoid.
                \_ What is the sound of kchang posting to the motd?
                   \_ "[twink]...[twink]...[twink]..."

11/22   Ilya, was that your tantrum?
        \_ Doubt it.  He has better grammar. -geordan
           \_ I guess he gloats when he nukes the motd.  This was just
              'Wah! Someone deleted something! -anonymous'

11/22   What's the logic behind 'consecutive life sentence'?  I can see being
        given multiple life sentences to be served at the same time, i.e. if
        one gets overturned you serve the others.  But making them
        'consecutive' makes no sense unless you believe in reincarnation and
        plan on incarcerating the next incarnation (An insect?).
        \_ I heard some vague explanation about sentences getting shortened
           for 'good behavior,' and how in some cases you don't want people
           getting out that way. -- ilyas
           \_ What's the diff between that and life sentence without the
              possibility of parole?
              \_ Multiple life sentences occur when you commit multiple crimes
                 that each carry a life sentence.
                 \_ It's spelled "sentence".  Corrected.
                    \_ Funny, I thought it was spelled "anal."
              \_ I don't know. -- ilyas

11/22   http://sandiego.craigslist.org/pol/49694464.html
        Karl Rove publishes a new book
        \_ Hahaha.. You STILL lost. 4 more years! 4 more years!
           \_ Where's the "come back when you're an adult" guy when we need him?

11/22   Boredcast Message from 'danh': Mon Nov 22 12:05:30 2004
        i want to see ilyas on Fear Factor

        Waa, danh doesn't love me. :( -- ilyas
        \_ who among us wouldn't want to see you eat roaches? - danh
           \_ I still want what's best for you, even if you are a
              spiteful communist. -- ilyas
              \_ So when are you going to move to a red state and get a real
                 job?  You're starting to sound remarkably like the liberals
                 who claim that they're moving to Canada, what with your open
                 contempt for the state whose public school system supports your
                 libertarian ass.

11/21   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6530356
        Top 10 philanthropists. The Waltons are stingy...
        \_ Have you seen the benefits for Walmart employees?  You're
           just figuring this out?  They are worth billions with more
           money than they could ever spend in 10 lifetimes yet their
           core workforce is working without basic benefits.
           \_ Well, I don't like WalMart, not because of their corporate
              policy, but that they have crappy goods and their prices
              aren't all that cheap.

11/21   http://www.strategicinvestment.com

11/19   what is "to get filled up"?  something i saw on craigslist.
        \_ Oh, c'mon... are you pulling my leg?

11/20   Soda crashed.  Page fault while in kernel mode.

11/19   Why does Alan Greenspan hate America??
        \_ what is this in reference to?

11/19   I read all the voting thing with amusement. Aren't there any sanity
        checks done in the hardware or something after the voting? ie, make
        sure that the total number of votes does not exceed the total
        registered voters by certain amount, some kind of auditing information
        or record should be produced. This is so fucking messed up.

11/19   [ ok ]

11/19   I have a set of numerical values, and I want to determine if there
        is significant variation between the numbers or not. What kind of
        statistical test would be appropriate? Thanks.
        \-jacknife^H^H^H^Hass
        \_ more info please.  what exactly do you want to know about the
           numbers?
        \_ Does this have something to do with voter fraud?
                \_ no, it doesn't. -op
        \_ define variation.  If you mean difference, a simple t-test would
           work. -nivra
        \_ What kinds of numbers are these?  Are they samples from some
           distribution?  Even if not, is it meaningful to assume a
           distribution (e.g. gaussian)?  This kind of question is hard to
           answer statistically for a set of data if you don't have an idea
           what process produced the data. -- ilyas

11/19   Seriously John, are you a Russian Jew? I thought you're German...

11/18   the new ContraceptiveSpongebob movie is pretty good, though it drags
        in a few spots overall its got 'phat beats'.

11/18   Is Nabolom Bakery still open?  If they close I'll really miss their
        chocolatines and cinnamon twists, but they seem to be incompetant at
        self-managment.
        \_ Yes, I was walking to BART after The Big Game and I saw it still
           there.
           \_ Go Bears!

11/18   Who is the blond in the old navy commercial dressed in a phone
                   \_ blonde
                      \_ Don't be a pedantic dipshit. "Blond" is also
                         correct (look it up). -not op
        (bare shouldered) who sings: "no contractual obligation". Are
        there other pictures/video of her out there?  She really flips
        my switches.
        \_ Ditto! Only for the asian-ish looking girl.
        \_ Ditto! Only for the amish looking girl.
        \_ But does she really put the cheese in your macaroni?
           \_no, i'm not fond of macaroni and i'm not sure what cheese
             symbolizes, but it usually ain't good.  I'd like her to
             row my boat though, if you aren't happy with the switches
             metaphore.
             \_ A true gentleman would row his own boat.  Heh.
             \_ But does she really boil your cabbages?  Does she really
                put your petunias in the bowl?
        \_ Get a cat
        \_ you need to provide pictures. i don't watch tv commercials anymore.

11/18   [ idiot ]

11/18   What I learned from "The Play": never quit, never say die; sponte-
        neity and improvisation are valuable qualities; pray for a couple
        trombones in the endzone.
        \ Winners never quit, quitters never win, but those who never win
          and never quit are idiots.
          \_ But shouldn't you quit after winning? Always better to quit
             while you're ahead. And why would losers quit before winning?
          \_ Hmm, this confirms my suspicion that most of us on the motd
             are, in fact, idiots.  We just keep arguing and arguing without
             conclusion.
        \_ Having the world's most obnoxious marching band is not always an
           asset.
        \_ What year was The Play?
           \_ 1982, sez my T-shirt.