8/21    Yeah, its Salon, but very interesting nonetheless.  Eyewitness report
        from the only journalists trapped inside the Imam Ali shrine.
        Apparently the widely reported peace deals have never really
        existed.  And now back to your regularly scheduled Really
        Important SwiftBoat Trolls!
        http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/08/19/shrine/index.html
        \_ Trapped inside?  How exactly can they be 'trapped' inside?  If they
           want to get out but aren't allowed to then they are hostages.  If
           they want to be there then they are the 'reporter on the scene'.
           \_ Mmmm, maybe you should READ THE ARTICLE and FIND OUT?!

8/21    Can someone please recommend a book on matlab?
        \_ Don't bother with a book...just use the users manual. As long
           as you know how to program (or even write pseudocode), you're
           more than halfway there with matlab; use the manual to fill in
           the rest.
           more.

8/20    What's the closest miniature go-kart place to Berkeley?
        \_ maybe Karts-n-Golf on Ardenwood in Fremont.  -tom
        \_ http://gokartracer.com in Burlingame.

8/20    [Go away too obvious troll]
        \_ I don't think that was a troll.  In fact, I think he made some
           pretty reasonable points.  Why don't you let people judge for
           themselves.  -John

8/20    http://www.neopets.com addictive game.

8/19    $8.8B in Iraq ware funds missing.

8/20    [No links without summary.]
        \_ hello ilyas!

8/19    Why am I living in Thursday when everyone else is on Friday?
        \_ Timezones.  But mostly people posting here don't know today's date.
        \_ I told you: I'm retarded.

8/19    So I'm pretty happy using Thunderbird as a windows email client.  Then
        I stumbled onto highlighting my response email and clicking "Insert
        HTML".  Wow.  Now if only I could open it in a different editor instead
        of having to copy/paste.
        \_ Please don't tell me that you are using HTML in e-mail.

8/18    Need a hug?

        And only herald to the gaudy spring,
        On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five;
        And the moonlight flowing over all.

8/18    Does anyone know anything more about this (md5 collisions):
        http://eprint.iacr.org/2004/199.pdf
        \_ Yes.  It affects more than MD5 (i.e. SHA-0 and MD4, HAVAL-128
           and RIPEMD.)  However, there's some argument as to the veracity
           of the findings or the seriousness of the vulnerability at
           http://www.rtfm.com/movabletype  -John

8/18    Is there a linux boot argument for keyboard repeat delay?

8/17    Can someone kindly suggest a book on introduction of RF circuit
        design? Thanks.
        \_ Pozar! Pozar! Pozar is the the STANDARD!!!!!
           Microwave Engineering by David Pozar is a great
           introduction to general microwave concepts.  He also
           has a book with more practical device stuff.  A good read.
           \_ So what do you think of Pozar?  I heard it was ok.
           \_ I've seen a book by Pozar. Is that one any good?
              \_ are you guys making fun of me?  -pozar #1 fan
                 \_ yeah but in a friendly way not the typical motd way.

8/17    I used to have a really cool travel toothbrush that had a refillable
        toothpaste tube in the handle-- it was about 6" long (didn't fold)
        and 1/2" diameter.  Anybody know what this was called or where to
        find it?
        \- is this some kind of homosexual code? -psb
           \_ No, I found and bought 3 at REI: the brand is something with
              with "clever" in it; there's also a brand called "Oratek"
              available at mec.ca, a canadian REI.

8/17    American Pimp Junior:
        http://shop.store.yahoo.com/brandsonsale-store/51104-costumes.html
        "you know, for the kids". --partha "slim" banerjee
        \_ Partha, do you have ho's in different area codes?

8/17    Helo, does anybody recall/know the definition of a
        Quasiperiodic Function. Ok tnx. [it isnt a class of
        nowhere differntiable func, is it?]
        \_ Google, page 3.  Lazy ass.
           \_ I dont think you know what you are reading.
              \_ A function (over a field F) is considered quasiperiodic with
                 period \omega if there exist a, b \in F such that
                 f(z + \omega) = f(z)*e^{az + b}.
                 Lazy ass.  You couldn't google for the obvious thing and look
                 for the first few pages of the results?
        \_ A function f is quasi periodic if and only if the set of
           its Fourier exponents has an integer and finite basis.

8/17    Why do we have all these flamewars going on? Can't we just get along?
        \_ BLAME CANADA!

8/17    What's the safest biking route to get from Golden Gate Park to the
        Golden Gate Bridge?  I don't mind going extra distance for safety.
        \_ RIDE BI oh wait...
        \_ Personally, I take 25th Ave from the middle of the park.  I don't
           know how you define "safety," although I surmise it's not the
           same way I would.  There is a marked bike lane on either 24th or
           23rd Ave, I forget which.  Or you can take the coast road past
           the Cliff House, which has less cross-traffic.  -tom
           \_ why does someone keep deleting this?  -tom
              \_ probably collateral damage from nuclear war going on
                 elsewhere on the motd.
                 \_ I agree.  Overwrites have been extremely frequent and
                    fast these days.
           \_ From the east side, you can take Arguello to Crissy Field
              and then up from the shoreline about a mile before the GGB.

8/17    Can the person who cuts the column at 79 every hour or so, can you
        please stop it? It is messing up with my CGIs.
        \_ CGIs?
          \_ yeah, it looks like http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~lwall/wall.log.html
             with link to the URLs, but when you break it up it no longer
             works.
           \_ use the URL shorteners
        \_ maybe you need to rewrite them?

[restored, this is not a troll]

8/17  The Ilyas-mocking will continue until someone posts a better thread.
      \_ well, there was the beginings of a aluminum vs. xenon flame war, but
         someone deleted that as well.

8/16    Whatever happened to http://autobahn.org and GamersExtereme on Shattuck?
        \_ They're no longer on Shattuck.
         \_ not true, I walked by the luggage place yesterday and the
            2 buttons still say Baycis/GamersExtreme.
                \_ good thing they last updated their website 7 years ago

8/16    Aluminum is the most rocking badass element ever.  you can go
        ahead and stick your silicon where the sun don't shine because
        Aluminum rocks my fucking world and it's here to stay!
        Woooooooo!
        \_ shopped at Old Navy today eh?
        \_ OMGWTFLOL!  Xenon pwns Aluminum.
           \_ nuts to your xenon!  bicycles! airplanes! superconductivity!
              and a super-kickass oxide!  wo00t!  AND it's easy to machine!

8/16    Hey, whatever happened to that pizza delivery guy who was
        kidnapped and strapped into a bomb?  Did they find the guy who
        did it?
        \_ http://csua.org/u/8m2  (dated Aug 11, 2004)
           \_ This is totally unrelated, but the site has a short
              registration before getting to the article.  I wrote that
              I was a 61 year old woman from Kansas.  Do they actually
              expect to get good results with this stuff?

8/16    Why is John a Tom Holub lover?
        \_ why don't you ask yermom
        \_ Same reason you're a shit-eating knucklehead pillow biter
           fucknut.  Genetics, I guess.  -John
           \_ Americans, all guts, nothing else.
                \_ Guess that's why all the losers from the lesser nations
                   want to move there.  -John
                   \_ Only losers like to move to America?  Winners move
                      to Europe?
                      \_ I think you've misread John's comment rather badly.
        \_ The only thing they have in common is some odd sense of self
           righteousness about anonymity on the motd.  I guess everyone
           needs a hobby.

8/16    Chavez declared winner in Venezuela referendum:
        link:csua.org/u/8lu (NYTimes, csuamotd/csuamotd)
        OTOH, opponents say electronic voting machines tampered with. Anyone
        want to take bets on whether or not this is a precursor to the
        aftermath of the upcoming US election?
        \_ This isn't a third world banana republic like Venezuela.

8/15    anyone used Dspam?  I was going to install it, but "they" seem not
        to have renewed their domain (http://www.nuclearelephant.com
        doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

8/15    Vote for the smiling big oil monkey.
        \_ Who's that?
        \_ Shoot yourself in the head.
        \_ yermom's a big oily monkey
        \_ Ok.  I will.  Thanks for the voting advice.

8/15    How to use -o (-or) flag with find? that is the question.
        find ./ -name hi -o -name there -print, for example, does not
        do it. (only finds "there", but not "hi")  help tnx,
        \_ How do I, damnit.  HOW DO I.  Not how to.  You are
           intentionally refusing to learn this aren't you?
           \_ it could also be shorthand for "Can anyone tell me how
              \_ It's not.  Train harder, grasshopper.
              to ..." Why don't you just get the fuck over it? CS
              is all about abbreviations and shorthand anyway.
              \_ "How do I" is two whole characters more and doesn't make
                 you sound like a total moron.
              \_ That's about as stupid as people asking questions
                 in the form of urlP. I've been on other message
                 boards before and nobody asks questions starting
                 with "How to".
              \_ No, actually it isn't.  If you're sloppy and lazy then
                 there may be some truth to this, but generally no.
              \_ And this is also the reason why (EE)CS majors
                 are known for their poor social skills.
                 \_ What about "what is cheeseboard?"
        \_ find . \( -name hi -o -name there \) -print
           there's an implicit -and between the "-name there" and the
           "-print"  I'd assume some order of operations precedence
          skips the -print
                \_thanks

8/14    What's the best cheap source for 128-bit SSL certs?
        \_ I just bought one from http://freessl.com. So far so good. They
           even have like a free ~5 day cert that you can use to
           even have like a free 30 day cert that you can use to
           get your site setup and test w/ various browsers.

8/14    [ PUH-LEASE find a new rightwing troll.  ok tnx. ]

8/14    [find a new rightwing troll]

8/14    What are some third parties people here have voted for besides the
        greens, libertarians, reform party and socialists?
        \_ Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?
           \_ They no longer ask this in interviews.
        \_ Peace and Freedom.

8/13    Was Iraq allowed to enter the Olympics prior to this year, or were
        they just brutally tortured so no one even wanted to go? I'm curious.

8/13    What happens when a state loses representatives during
        reapportionment?  Someone loses his/her job?
        \_ They have to redistrict before the next election.  *Someone* loses
           their job, but that's how elections go.
              \_ how do they decide who loses their job?
        \_ How do you think 'Survivor' got the idea for voting people off the
           island?
           \_ JeffProbstymandering.

8/13    Any way to see the Olympics live on TV in the USA?
        \_ get a friend in the UK to proxy BBC's live webcasts for you.

8/13    [just leave this up for an hour]
                      \_ This *is* Tom Tomorrow, except you're the
                             lame conservative guy.  I have it right there,
                             both their full quotes meaning the exact
                             same thing, and you criticize Kerry and laud
                             Bush.  Can't you see this?
                             \_ Have what?  Post it.  I'm not conservative btw.
                                I hate 'both' parties equally.
                                \_ Kerry quote, Bush quote on "sensitivity".
                                   Both guys said the same thing.  Kerry is
                                   slammed; Bush lauded.  Tom Tomorrow.
                        http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=17231

8/12    So let the purge finger-pointing begin!

8/12    What fraction of programmers take speed?
        \_ *I* don't take speed, but my nose does, so say 1/3000th?

8/12    For those who missed it and are playing Doom:
        The Sanrio(R) Doom ]|[ Hello Kitty Flashlight(TM)!
        http://www.pcgamemods.com/6645/s/1  (only shotty and machine gun tho)

8/12    Non-politically speaking, who's doing a better campaigning job.
        Who has the better strategy?

8/11    On a related note, it's the Sanrio(R) Doom ]|[ Hello Kitty Flashlight!
        http://www.pcgamemods.com/6645/s/1

8/11    If you're still awake, the Perseids are tonight.
        \_ I don't have a TV.
           \_ It a meteor shower, not a TV program.
        \_ Awesome show last night.  If you missed it, there should still
           be some tonight (12/8)  -John
        \_ Triffids!
           \_ Tetsuo!
              \_ Akane!
                 \_ Akane Ichinose!
          \_ Aadrieeennne!
           \_ Indiiiiiii!
           \_ elaine!
              \_ Elaine Chao?
                 \_ Yow!
           \_ Stellaaaaa
           \_ Kirsty!  Tiffany!
              \_ You guys are so like so k-lame for not getting my Hellraiser II
                 reference.
           \_ Pow!  Right in the kisser!
              \_ One of these days, Alice...
              \_ My sister! My daughter!
                 \_ Are they the same person?
                    \_ He's got a real purdy mouth on him, don't he?
                        \_ Squeals like a pig!

8/11    To the guy who wanted to blind pigeons, what did you eventually descide

        on?
        \_ No one actually answered the question with regard to 5 mW lasers,
           I've got a fake owl now that seems to work so far.
           \_ Does the owl have lasers?
           \_ A 5MW laser would kill the pigeons

8/11    [Commentless URL thwacked.]

8/11    For the Gundam fans in the audience:
        http://akiba.sorobangeeks.com/news_8533.html

8/10    I need to test that I can get mail from a machine that doesn't have
        a reverse ip entry.  Does anyone have a box without a PTR record
        that they could send me some mail from?  -crebbs
        \_ can't set up something on RC 1918 nets?
        \_ can't set up something on RFC 1918 nets?
        \_ So you want to block mail based on that criteria?  As if what?
           Spammers don't have valid reverse?  Most spam boxes do have a valid
           reverse.
            \_ i said i want to test that i *CAN* get mail.  jeesh. -crebbs
               \_ Can't you just break some of your DNS and generate
                  something without a PTR?

8/10    Whatever happened to Faye Wray?
        \_ A giant monkey came and ate her.
        \_ Does anyone here remember Vera Lynn?
                \_ anybody ;)
                \_ Remember how she said that we would meet again
                        \_ Yes, but she didn't say where or when.  -John
        \_ She died of old age before you were born.
           \_ Actually, no, she died on Sunday.  Mmmm.. ass talking
              \_ You were born yesterday, so she died before you were born.
        \_ Whatever happened to Joe Pesci?  I tried to google for an answer
           last night and failed.
           \_ What should have happened to him?
              \_ He should have played Dick Cheney in F911.
                 \_ I heard he was going to but the VRWC offed him and buried
                    him in Vince Foster's coffin.

8/9     [ all threads up to most recently deleted nuked. ]

4/1     Squish tom, revive kchang!!!      -coalition of anti-tom & pro-kchang

8/9     Where do I get those University Movers boxes on campus to empty out
        my desk?

8/8     any alternative to bttb for backup/splitting large dir to CD?
        bttb tries too hard and the files in each directory are
        spread across too many CDs.... thx.
        \_ How about the "span" option in PKZIP?

8/8     John, why is the Swiss domain suffix .ch?  What was wrong with .sw?
        \_ Found the answer myself, sorry:
           "Switzerland is also known as "Confoederatio  Helvetica",
            therefore the abbreviation CH.  "Confoederatio" stands for
            "confederation", "Helvetica" derives from the Latin  word
            "Helvetier", the name of the people who lived in the area which
            became  later Switzerland.
           http://www.about.ch

8/6     Apache Guru question:  will a mod rewrite take precedence over a
        <Location> setting?  I have a <Location=/mylocation/> but I would
        like to override that for <Location=/mylocation/images/> to just
        serve images and not be parsed like /mylocation/.  I tried to create
        a prior <Location=/mylocation/images/> but it didn't take.
        \_ Try it and you'll find out.  Report back how it went.  Thanks!

8/6     RIP Rick James
        \_ Now enjoy yourself.
        \_ I'm Rick James bitch!

8/6     There will be no peace until W Hung's 15 minutes conclude.

8/6     Damage undone.

8/6     Does anyone know if there's an open source library for talking to
        various IM networks?  There was something called libfaim once upon
        a time, but it seems to have disappeared.  Basically, I'd like to
        build a better IM to SMS proxy.  Something like this:
        http://features.engadget.com/entry/8931594493760248
        but bidirectional and transparent.  Does such a beast exist?  At
        present the best option looks like using gaim as a starting point
        -dans
        \_ I think kopete offers a library (or at least a scriptable interface)

8/5     The motd needs to be nuked!! someone nuke it!!

8/4     all deleted because all the threads were partially nuked

8/5     After spending some time doing research, it looks like the motd mudging
        fucker was around since 1999:
        http://csua.com/?entry=16530

8/5     Is http://buy.com having trouble fulfilling orders? I've got a order sent
        on 7/30 and it still shows "Sent to warehouse". Anyone got a number
        I can call them about?

8/5     Africans really have bigger penises than Caucasians
        http://www.afraidtoask.com/members/mgenitalafricanamerican.html
        \_ yermom already knew that

8/4     Ilyas, here's an interesting macaque for you.
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/22/monkey.walking.ap

8/4     [ don't delete threads out of chronological order, bitch. ]

8/4     Restore motd please. Was editing it and had wall on, somehow
        that destroyed it.
        \_ Dweeb.
        \_ Your foo is weak.
                \_ fu
        \_ You're fu is week.
        \_ *shakes head*.  --can't think of anything else to say

8/4     Partha speaks.  ~psb/MOTD/Dear_Dickless_Wonder  - !psb

8/4     \- you know i think it is reasonable to claim
           "you cant be serious" [NPI] about being a
           Kantian, but to claim that it is vague is
           silly. an entire approach to ethics is named
           after kant ... that's not my doing. it would
           be more not less obscure to have said i am
           a deontologist than to say kantian. --psb
           \_ Kant's contributions to ethics are immense.  So are
              Christian contributions, but hardly anyone would answer
              my question with "I am a Christian."  You can be a
              Kantian liberal, a Kantian conservative, or a Kantian
              anything in between.  Heck, I could be considered a
              Kantian, too.  Bringing up Kant in this context clarifies
              nothing other than the fact that you have read Kant.
              Good for you.  So have I. -- ilyas
              \_ A phrase like "I am a Catholic" would have more meaning
                 if more people who would claim to be really are.  The
                 teachings of the Church is treated more like recommended
                 guidelines or maybe merely ideas for consideration.  Many
                 Catholics I meet remind me so much of those apocryphal
                 vegetarians who eat chicken or fish.  It's not clear the
                 teachings of Kant has been diluted as much as the teachings
                 of the Church or of the Popes, so "I am a Kantian" probably
                 is more meaningful than "I am a Catholic", let alone "I am
                 a Christian."
                 \_ You can view 'teachings of Kant' as a distillation of
                    Christian teachings by a very intelligent man (Kant was
                    deeply religious).  (There is much more to Kant, of course).
                    I can tell by what little I know of Partha's life that
                    Partha is not a Christian, so certainly isn't a Kantian in
                    any sort of hardcore sense.  The Kantian label clarifies
                    nothing for me. -- ilyas

8/4     Pam Anderson authrors a novel!
        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126303,00.html
        \- is she coming to cody's?

8/4     Old garbage uniformly purged, without attention to race, creed,
        color, gender, or IQ.  --NTUMGP

8/3     why did it take so long for heinz to start using squirtable plastic
        ketchup bottles as opposed to the old glass bottles?
        \_ Ketchup = republican , mustard = Democrat
        \_ She's more used to rigid things and she jerks better than she
           squeezes.
        \_ The narrow glass bottles were a gimmick to convince people that
           ketchup was thicker than other brands.  A plastic squeeze bottle
           would defeat that.

8/2     THE MEN BEHIND EDWARDS
        http://csua.org/u/8fm
        and why are jobs going overseas?
        \_ Dude, this is the motd, not AOL.

8/3     Origin of the "Why Do You Hate America?" meme?
        http://salon.com/comics/tomo/2002/04/01/tomo/index.html

8/2     THE MEN BEHIND EDWARDS
        http://www.overlawyered.com/archives/001388.html
        and why are jobs going overseas?

8/3     Where the hick do you post these days to find some student programmers?
        Career center's no help.  Maybe I should just post flyers around Soda
        Hall?
        \_ Wouldn't the UCB career center be good for throwing students your
           way?
           \_ When has the UCB career center been good for ANYTHING? --chris
        \_ Maybe hook up with the engineering dept?  They used to hold job
           fairs for undergrad students.  --chris
        \_ ucb.cs.jobs?  That will filter out people who think WWW is the only
           thing on the internet.
           \_ Is jobs a new top-level domain?  It doesn't work when I type
              that URL into IE.

8/2     How to live a weirder life?
        \_ hang out with danh
        \_ Marry ikiru?
           \_ zing!

8/2     Can we squish whoever is doing the motd-rewriting with the whitespace
        conversion or whatever the hell it's doing? Highly annoying.
        \_ Can we squish you, too?  Seems only fair because I find you highly
           annoying also.
           \_ are you the one doing that? if you are you're a fucking dumbshit.

7/31    Not including jobs got through people you knew well.  How many
        applications/interviews did you go through before landing a job?
        \_ Anywhere from 1 to about 10 depending on how bad the economy is but
           I skip all the jobs that are obviously lame.

7/31    I'm trying to download a flash application (swf) but it seems like
        it's also trying to load other things. How can I download flash
        applications? Thanks.
        \_ More info needed: browser? OS? site?

7/31    http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/new_words.htm3
        I'm surprised that lossless and menudo are only now making their way
        into the dictionary.

7/31    Do people know what the paypal fee schedule is? Also does anyone know
        if they do "charity cases" on a commission-free basis or something
        like that? Context at ~psb/MOTD/FloodRelief, if you are so motivated.
        --psb
        \_ Partha, let us know what you find out.  Thanks, erikred
        \_ May be wrong here, but didn't Amazon's Honor System do free
           processing for charities?  Or was that only for the 9/11 Red
           Cross fund?

7/30    atom was here

7/30    THis is a good resource: http://office.microsoft.com/templates
        Everything from resignation letters to letters to Santa.

7/30    Sysadmin appreciation day!  Buy cheezy Hallmark cards!
        http://www.sysadminday.com
        \_ Why the fsck do I need to express appreciation for them? They
           already make enough to buy homes in the bay area. Isn't that
           appreciation enough?
        \_ I hate the concept.  Like Secretary's Day, we shouldn't need to
           have some bogus day to remind people of our importance.  This
           sort of thing makes bosses think that treating us like shit the
           rest of the year is ok because they got us a 10 pack of blank
           colored floppies on SA Day.

7/29    This is cool, let's use it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/beusmotd
        \_ I thought CSUA was the only organization that used their motd as
           a publicly writable bulletin board.
           \_ I see. I did not think that. We are different, you and I.
        \_ yah! more php+mysql crap.

7/29    In the day of background checks; are you still able to omit jobs
        where things did not work out with a boss and you were fired ? There
        was no misconduct involved; just a personality clash with a manager.
        \_ Omit anything you want.  Just don't lie and say you were working
           elsewhere or add education you don't have, etc.  I don't give
           out contact info for shitty bosses.  Just because there's a
           blank on a form doesn't mean they need the info.  The only place
           that ever checked anything anyway was a financial place and a
           high security government lab.
           \_ I'd never had references checked until this current job search
              and now everyone is actually checking my references, from
              startups to big big companies.  I suspect it is an economy
              changing thing.  Anyway, yeah you don't have to give a reference
              for a company where things went bad, but if every reference you
              had was for jobs from 6 years ago they are going to wonder why.
              Do you not have any friends at your previous jobs?  Coworkers
              are valid references. -aspo
              \_ Maybe it's just you since you look like a terrorist.  My
                 references still don't get checked.
              \_ Odd.  I've always had my references checked, and I've
                 provided reference for numerous people through the years.
              \_ I give coworkers from more recent jobs.  I don't pretend I
                 wasn't at a shitty place.  If I don't have a reference from
                 my most recent job, tough shit.
        \_ I would say it depends on how long you were at the job. Three
           weeks, yeah sure omit it. Three years? Probably not.

7/29    Anyone in Cory/Soda Hall sometime tonight (around 10pm) who could
        let me into Cory so I can power on my server? Pls email. Thx! - jthoms

7/29    Moore or pig? You decide!
        http://mooreorpig.com/moore_or_pig.html
        \_ "He's FAT!  He MUST be bad!"
           \_ Need to see if <DEAD>coulterortwig.com<DEAD> is registered...

7/29    Are Republican really that amused by clean rooms and surgical
        gowns? Don't they get ER in Texas and Oklahoma?
        \_ Who says they are?  What are you blabbing about?
        \_ Have you ever worn a bunny suit?  They're hilarious.
           \_ They're not hilarious if you have to wear one 13 hours a day
              for several weeks.
              \_ Been there, done that.  I still think they're hilarious.
                 Of course, it helped that I was billing at the time.
                 \_ I'll admit they're funny if someone else is wearing
                    them.  I was wearing them in grad school where your hourly
                    wage goes down with each hour you work, and where the
                    ventilation in the cleanroom was broken so it was hot
                    as hell.
                    \_ Lawsuit.
                       \_ huh?
                    \_ Hey, slavery sucks, bunny suit or not.  In my case,
                       my marathon became the down payment for my first house.
           \_ ALL HAIL COMMANDER BUNNYPANTS!

7/28    The new version of DVDShrink defaults to "Sharp" but lets you choose
        from something like: really smooth, smooth, sharp, really sharp.

        I'm thinking my eyes probably cant tell the difference but I would
        like to learn more about these settings.  The software isnt documented
        so please discuss! --gabriel
        \_ The simple answer is it can devote more bits to accurately tracking
           the shape of the objects in the image, or to accurately tracking
           the movement of the objects.  At one extreme you have a fuzzy
           picture that doesn't go to crap when the scene changes fast or there
           is a lto of movement.  At the other, you have a very sharp picture
           that gets nasty artifacts whenever stuff moves.  For an action
           movie, choose smooth, for something with a lot of static shots,
           choose sharp.
        \_ Check the http://doom9.org forums.

7/29    No on 72.

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     \\                          KISSED I MEAN I FOUND THE SCENE
      ))                          WHERE THEY WERE NAKED IN A TUB
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      )                           MORE BEATOFFABLE
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                                 I MEAN WHAT'S XENA

7/27    What do you have as your homepage? Poll:
        Google: ..
        Yahoo: ..
        SlashDot:
        about:blank:.....
        worldnetdaily:.
        homepage I made: ...
                \_ now that is sick
                   \_ Why on earth would that be sick?
                        \_ don't know about you but looking at your own
                           picture every time you launch the browser is just
                           weird. Might as well as put up a mirror by the
                           monitor while you're at it.
                           \_ You're weird.  The page I have has alot of
                              useful links and tools that I use all the time.
                              It's not about vanity, it's about utility and
                              total customizability.
        http://thumbnailpost.com: .
                \_ NOT WORK SAFE
        msdn: .
        Kais Motd: . (yes motd is entertaining and stupid)
        "You can change it?": .
        \_ IM ON TEH INTARWEB!
        \_ AOL!

7/26    It is very annoying that I am charged for some 510 calls and not
        others (and ditto 415 numbers).  Is there some way to check in advance
        which numbers are going to cost me?
        \_ Yes.
        \_ Local prefixes are listed in your phone book.
           \_ at least in San Jose (pacbell), they took this out a couple years
              ago... the only way is to call the operator (at least it's a free
              call!) -dwc
        \_ Generally speaking, locations outside a 12 mile radius will cost
           you. BTW, for anyone interested, this place apparently gives
           free LD phone calls. http://www.phonefairy.com/pages/1/index.htm
           I'm not sure what the catch is, but they asked for my phone number
           and email address, so I assume they'll sell it to a bunch of
           people or something. I gave them a fake phone number and an email
           I don't check much, so whatever. I tried it from a payphone the
           other day and it worked...
                \_ WARNING WARNING: useful, non-denigrating, non-tom-holub
                   styled posts are in violation of motd policy. This
                   thread will be censored in 10 minutes.
                   \_ It was *anonymous* and therefore could not possibly
                      have any value.  He must be ridiculed and mocked!

7/26    Use ass!

7/26    Why the hell are my iRobot posts being deleted?
        \_ Some motd'er is probably spoiler-averse.
           \_ Spoilers suck.
              \_ Especially when you put em on a front-wheel drive rice rocket.
                 \_ But mine has an R-Type sticker so it goes faster.
                    \_ For only $200 I can add speed holes to you windshield.
                       I gaurantee it will add at least 5HP.

7/25    iRobot is totally awsome. Now the only thing it's missing is the
        pleasure robot. That'll make the future better.         -soda geek
        \_ stick an imac in your RealDoll(tm).

7/24    KITT is for sale: http://tinyurl.com/5jvav

7/23    When I debug a multi-thread C app in Visual Studio, is there a way to
        tell it to stop all threads immediately when one thread hits a failed
        ASSERT() statement, instead of letting the other thread continue to
        run?  Thanks.

7/23    Peasants Quest:
        http://www.homestarrunner.com/pqtrailer.html
        \_ This is soo funny.  Thanks!

7/22    Some after-work political entertainment (might be offensive to
        ultra left/right wing nut cases here)
        http://gripboy.com/thisland/this_land_mov.swf
        \_ What the fuck is your jibjab posting problem?

7/22    YAWN!!! BORING! SUMONE PLEASE YODA THE MOTD 2 MAKE IT C00L
        K00L THANKS,
        \_ ANYONE HAZ ANY ASC1I-RENDURED PORN IMAGES?!?1?!?
        \_ WHY WUZ THE 5oZ MOV1E BOARD DELETED?? IT WUZ C00L.

7/22    motd poll.  What is the longest period of time you have spent
        researching or reading about a topic due to a motd discussion:
        3 months: . (Bush's WMD claims, not all at once but 20 hrs/wk)
        2 weeks: .. (Kais Motd sucked me into read old entries)(2000 election)
        1 week:
        1 day: . (trying to find out how hot German women are and if I should
                  learn German)
        6 hours: . (Free Speech in Shopping Malls)
                 \- did you read the pruneyard case? did you drive down
                    to the pruneyard? --psb
                    \_ Yes. I read about pruneyard. I've visited it
                       several times as I live close to it. Other
                       cases were interesting as well (the company
                       town case, &c.) I'm looking forward to
                       reading about other such cases in law school
                       this fall.
        1 hour: . (Dresden bombing)
        1 minute:
        \_ You've spent 20 hrs/wk researching WMD claims???
           \_ Um yeah, for about two months. Maybe even three. I know.. I know..
              I count time spending arguing with various yahoos on various
              right wing blogs as "research" into the subject.

7/22    YAWN!!! Boring. Someone please yoda the motd to make it interesting
        ok thanks.
        \_ Anyone has any ASCII-rendered porn images?
        \_ Why was the 50's movie thread deleted? It was interesting.

7/22    burglar thread deleted - failed the boring test.
        \_ If the test is so boring, why keep reading it?  Kindly die, please.
           This thread was still pretty active.
        \_ I missed the burglar thread.  Any good ideas on how to prevent a
           home invasion?  Our neighborhood in north Fremont has had a rash
           of burglaries in the past few months; about 1 out of every 5 homes
           in our development has been hit so far.  (BTW, alarms have not
           been deterring the thefts)  Seriously, anyone have any good
           ideas?  Email me.  --sseto

7/22    A Sodan came up to me and said
        "I'd like to poison your mind
        With wrong ideas that appeal to you
        Though I am not unkind"
        He typed at me, I looked at something
        Written on the motd
        And these are the words that it faintly said
        As I tried to call for help:
        There's only one thing that I know how to do well
        And I've often been told that you only can do
        What you know how to do well
        And that's be a troll,
        Be like yourself,
        And so I'm having a wonderful time
        But I'd rather be chatting on the wall
        \_ Just another brick, eh?

7/22    FREE SANDY!  KUMBAYA!

7/21    Kerry's vietnam activities.
        http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/powmia-affair.htm
        http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/winter-soldier.htm
        http://www.stopjohn.com/movies/hanoi-john.htm

7/21    Did they free him yet?  What about his shorts?

7/21    I don't mean to be ilyas or anything, but I just came up w/ a
        hypothetical scenario and was wondering if anyone has written about it.
        If there were a zoo that taught fish to actually speak english and the
        fish talked about how they didnt want to be in aquariums and so forth,
        what sorts of ethical issues would we run into? would it be slavery for
        entertainment, etc?
        \_ They would only teach them "enough" and make them watch TV, so they
           won't know how to think for themselves.
        \_ Did Koko the gorilla that knew sign language ever complained about
           being kept in captivity?  Just curious.
           \_ when they taught her to paint, the first thing she painted was
              the bars of her cage
           \_ When they teach southerners to write, the write "patriotic
           \_ When they teach southerners to write, they write "patriotic
              country" songs.
              \_ Let us know when they've taught you to write.

7/21    AARGH!  Would it be that fucking difficult to have fopen and company
        support both back and forward slashes as directory separators?
        \_ isn't fopen just a front to the open() syscall?
        \_ Then you can't have backslashes in filenames.
           \_ And you also can't use the backslash to escape other characters
              in the shell.

7/20    If any of you are in the UK the first weekend in August, or live out
        there, I'll be poledancing at boat party on the Thames.
        Details here:
        http://www.reverberations.co.uk
        (click the tiny link that says "the boat party")
        -- lye
        \_ What kind of music?  I have some friends there whom I could
           send by.  -John
           \_ All kinds of house music, although the first boat party they
              did feature a lot of rock in the mix too.  Here's some pictures
              from that one:
              http://www.reverberations.co.uk/theboatparty
        \_ Uhhhh..  Am I the only one for whom "Eli Pole Dancing" is up there
           on the list of the last things I _ever_ want to see?
           \_ Hey, that was a pretty funny edit.  Who's fault was it? --lye

7/20    Anybody have any more links like this:
        http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/TRONcostume
        I need a good laugh.
        \_ Here you go.  Possibly not work safe.
           http://razormoon.fateback.com/consort
           \_ more more. surely the motd can do better.

7/20    What happened to inpassing?

7/20    What's the music in one of the Austin Powers movies that plays when we
        first see the fembots?  It has a very catchy bassline...
        \_ These Boots Are Made for Walking by Nancy Sinatra
           \_ Thanks.  I feel stupid.
              \_ Nevermind, I couldn't find it because it's not on the
                 soundtrack.

7/20    Person looking for a EF 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 usm did you already buy
        one? I can probably help. -shac
        \_ I haven't bought one yet. I did send you mail last night.
           When you have some time drop me an email and I'll try to figure
        \_ I haven't bought one yet. I sent you mail last night. When
           you have some time drop me an email and I'll try to figure
           out how to get up to berkeley to get it. --ranga

7/19    Is there an etymological connection between Aladin and Bin Laden
        (they both end in similar sounding suffix)? I mean, they're both
        middle eastern and all.
        \_ The next incarnation is Caeladan.
        \_ Let's go kick Aladin's ass!
        \_ it's spelled aladdin

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7/18    "Damn them, Damn them all to hell!"

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           \_ Is that from Simpsons or did CH also say that?
              \_ It's Mr. Garrison on South Park.
        \_ "You maniacs! You blew it all up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!"
           \_ "Its because we are more ethnically mixed than other countries."

7/16    [ partial thread deletes suck.  thread nuked.  have a nice day. ]
        \_ Don't tell me what kind of day to have.
        \_ Thanks, but I have other plans.

7/16    In case you might be interested,  the CS homepage has links to
        webcast lectures for the CS Division's 30th Birthday plus
        this year EECS research symposium.  --jeffwong

7/16    Guys guys, ***please*** conform to 80 columns. Here is your guide:
0        1         2         3         4         5         6         7
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789
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        Please conform to this, thanks.
        \_ it might be more persuasive if you explained the rationale for that
           requirement.
        \_ it might be more persuasive if you explained the rationale for
           that requirement.
           \_ Most terminals default to 80 columns.  Longer lines cause an ugly
              word-wrap that's hard to read and screws up for formatting of
              replies.  Also, some editors don't work too well with long lines.
              \_ Re-fucking up the formatting is not *that* funny.

7/14    RMA'ed the card. Thanks for the suggestions.

7/15    Is comcast blocking pings to their subscribers?
        \_ It is in Oregon.

7/15    Interesting way to live:
        http://www.24thcid.com  -John
        \_ Since my favorite SF shows are Dr. Who and Red Dwarf, I'm already
           living the dream.  I find it's possible to model your life after
           Lister's on a pretty low budget.
        \_ "Interesting" isn't the word I would have chosen.
           \_ Point taken.  I should rather have said "interesting" in
              quotes.  -John
              \_ ""interesting""  ?  that doesn't seem right....
                 \_ Is that you Dave?
        \_ This guy is either a genius and/or insane.  I hope he uses LED
           lighting because it looks like he has about 10000 Watts worth
           of bulbs burning in his house.  I think I might go crazy in that
           house.

7/14    When did this place turn into Chronicles of the Elders of the Motd?
        \_ ?
           \_ cf below with "all the jews control the media"
        \_ since tom holub started to scare all the new blood
        \_ Shut up you warmongering plutocrat jew bastard.  -John

7/14    Another Nigerian scam-baiting.  The twist is that the guy
        actually got some money out of the scammer.
        http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm
        \_ Dude, this site is hilarious!  Thanks for posting; it
           made my morning.
        \_ Why are they called 419?
           \_ Section of the Nigerian criminal code that they violate (fraud).

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7/12    What is the link to that flashlight pussy product?
        \_ fleshlight
                \_ is there a store around here that carries it?

7/12    Cedar Rapids fire department blocks plan for Church book burning.
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/07/12/no.book.burning.ap
        Ah shucks.  First they take away our book burnings, then they'll
        take away cross burnings, and then who knows what next?
        \_ Maybe they'll take away your right to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded
           theatre!  Where has my America gone?  Oh, woe!
        \_ "Breedlove said a city fire inspector suggested shredding the
            offending material, but Breedlove said that wouldn't seem
            biblical. 'I joked with the guy that St. Paul never had to
            worry about fire codes,' Breedlove said."  I don't seem to
            remember book burning in the Bible.  Let alone in Acts, can
            anyone site a scripture? -jrleek
                   \- mr. leek: i assumed that was a reference to
                      RAV v. St. Paul. although i was surprised that
                      the chuch person would know the case ... maybe it
                      was more memorable in the midwest. ok tnx. --psb
            \_ I thought book burning was more of a Hitler-style thing than
               a Jesus Christ Superstar thing.
               \_ Consider that before the printing press was invented and
                  common, books were made by hand and were illustrated works
                  of art, not the commonly available throw away paper backs
                  we have today.  Book burning would have been insanely
                  expensive, hard to get enough in one place anyway, and since
                  most people were illiterate, simply stupid and silly.
            \_ [2 Peter 3:10] But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in
               the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great
               noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
               also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

7/12    Does anyone know where to get more Advantage-S and Advantage-24?
        They have a superb product but it seems like the product is
        discontinued :(

7/12    Any tree fools that does nice graphical directory comparison like
        Araxis Merge, but free? for windows. Thanks.
        \_ http://winmerge.sourceforge.net
        \_ http://winmerge.sourceforge.net
           I like Beyond Compare though, but it's not free ($30).

7/11    This land belongs to you and me:
        http://www.jibjab.com/thisland.html

7/11    I noticed a metamail_tmp directory in my home dir.  What's that
        about?  How did it get there?
        \_ its for temporary meta mail.

7/11    What is the ^= operator in C?
        \_ XOR
        \_ ^ is bitwise XOR.  Not surprisingly, ^= is an assignment version.
        \_ can i join in? it's XOR!

7/10    <Changes Deleted>
        \_ And restored again in seconds.  Thank you for playing.

7/11    What freepers do when they're not trolling the motd:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/11/international/asia/11afgh.html?hp
        \_ i heard about this on headline news and was dumbfounded that
           people would actually do something like this.  this has to be
           the best sentence from the story:
                 A piece of paper on the wall was titled "Missions
                 to Complete" and listed various tasks. Item No. 2
                 was "Karzai." Item No. 4 was "pick up laundry."
        \_ Ever read The Man who would be King?  -John
           \_ no.  are you recommending it?
                \_ Yup.  And find Beyond the Pale while you're at it.  -john
                                  \_ Author? Too many matches on Amazon.
                                        \_ Sorry, Rudyard Kipling.  Mwwbk is
                                           a book, second is a short story.
                \_ The Bible is a good read, too.  Just skip all the "so n so
                   begat so n so" in Genesis.

7/10    Thanks for writing directly to the motd smashing my changes.
        You can restore *your* changes.  I won't.  Restored.

7/9     What's a good multipage print program besides enscript? My sysadm
        is too lazy to install it and I don't know what other progs are
        available ok thx.
        \_ And your OS would be?
          \_ linux
        \_ a2ps
           \_ Wow.  Looks like a2ps > enscript.
        \_ it is not that hard to install enscript into your own account.

7/8     Is Jedi Academy worth playing? I enjoyed JK2 until the yavin swamp
        level or so and I was thinking about playing the sequel. tia.
        \- see http://csua.org/u/83p
        \_ The sequel takes place entirely in the yavin swamp level.

7/8     http://www.theymightbegiants.com

7/8     Spidey in Lego:
        http://www.spiteyourface.com/spidey.html

7/7     In a email, what difference is conveyed between "Hi Peter and "Dear
        Peter"?  Is the former really considered less formal and less polite?
        \_ Yes.
           \_ Less formal certainly, but less polite depends on the context.
        \_ If you're writing to a loved one (a situation for "dear")
           then do it in a letter.  Email is casual/business use, where "Peter"
           or "Hi Peter," does fine.
           \_ No one writes 'dear' to a loved one as a greeting. -- ilyas
              \_ Dear Ilya,
                 Tell us about the stars!
                 Love,
                 Joseph Stalin
                 Kaiser Wilhelm
                 \_ I call Godwin!
                    \_ Only applies to German tyrants.
                 \_ Now that was a funny edit.
              \_ Dear Ilyas,
                 I love you
                 Ilyas #1 fan
              \_ I use "dear" writing to my grandmother
        \_ Dear doesn't belong in email. If the letter is formal enough to
           demand a "Dear", then maybe it shouldn't be sent in email?
           \_ Exactly.  I think email should be used like a memo.  Offtopic:
              am I the only one who cringes when ppl say "emails"?
              \_ By "used like a memo" do you mean content free corporate
                 buzzword horseshit?
              \_ no, unless used as a verb in the correct tense.

7/6     hello ok thx

5/7     hit the ball  http://milano.vinden.nl/111.jpg
        \_ huh?

7/25    Test

7/4     http://costofwar.com

7/3     Have a nice and safe Linear Independence Day.
        \_ You have no basis to say that.
        \_ ah, where would we be without linear independence?
        \_ We're finally free from nonliearity!  Free at last!  Free at last!
           Thank God Almighty!  Free at last!