8/5     Are you being massively ink spammed?

8/4     Anyone have a good one page description of XForms?
        \_ So you find th W3C specs a bit too long and unreadable?
        \_ Do you find th W3C specs a bit too long and unreadable?

8/3     How does eddie bauer make their khakis wrinkle-resistant?
        \_ He speaks English, unlike the poster below.
           \_ which would be true had that post not been nuked
        \_ With the same technique white guys use on their penis.
        \_ the all powerful liberal media lovingly blesses
           each fiber.
        \_ he coats it with special spunk.
        \_ microfibers
        \_ something to do with nanotechnology.
           \_ is it the same thing as peach-fuzz stain resistance?
              \_ Is Quasy granddson and fairness to all humilition of childrn
                 in US country!
                 \_ all our base are belong to you!
                    \_ AIIIEEEEE!!!!

8/3     Tiger Woods lost the Buick Open. Does that mean he will no longer
        be on the Buick commercials?
        \_ It's Sunday, so I'm giving you leeway on Incredibly Bad Jokes(tm).
           However, don't do it again.

8/1     How come so many lawyers are alcoholics?
        \_ Because lying kills the soul, and alcohol numbs the pain caused
           by the death of the soul.

8/1     Poll, how many of you Asian men feel frustrated by the U.S. media
        that denigrates Asian men? You know with the media, stereotype, etc?
        Damn white oppresive penis: .
        Horray for white penis:

        Poll, how many of you whities prefer status quo in the media?
        Horray for white penis:
        It's evil, but I like it:
        I think there should be equality:
        \_  Just watch out, when the whites leave everything
            will go to hell.
            \_ don't worry, the bananas and oreos can take over
            \_ fuck off whiteboy.  You day is over.
                \_ Guess who has the guns.

8/1     Is there any way I can ifile to tell me which words were most important
        in its decision to categorize something as spam/!spam?

8/1     Pretty cool: Birdman flies unaided across English Channel in free fall:
        http://www.macintyre.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=401&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

7/30    [white boy/asian sister thread censored. -hoyt]
        \_ I actually grepped the passwd file for hoyt.  I was hoping he
           was really here.  Too bad he's not.  Good joke, though.

7/30    It is so cute watching all the little Taiwanese fobs get worked up
        about big bad China.

7/30    Faaaaab-u-lous!
        http://www.bettybowers.com/isbushgay.html

7/30    Any one wants to hedge on RMB?

7/30    What is a refferal site?  I'm purchasing a data feed and being told
        that i can't "use it for a referral site".
        \_ If you don't know, you're not.
        \_ What's a data feed?

7/29    Kiana is hot.
        http://www.milfhunter.com/view.htm?id=nd5000&trailer=kiana.wmv
        \_ domain name alone should be an indication of work-safe-ness.
           \_ you're just jealous you didn't grab it first.  :-)
        \_ man, i didn't know it was not worksafe, i'm dead :(

7/28    Pentagon to create information future market?
        http://csua.org/u/3r6
        \_ 100 bucks on Harry Callahan
        \_ The truth is that the MOTD is the Pentagon's secret futures
           market.
        \_ This is actually old news getting rehashed.  The first story was
           published more than a year ago when they first starting talking
           about it.
        \_ they should just hire real gamer playerkillers to capture em.

7/28    http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/t2_03.jpg
        Optical illusion.
        \_ That is fucking trippy.
        \_ It's also worksafe.
           \_ I wouldn't have thought twice, but the comment made me question
              how safe it was. It's a bunch of abstract circles, so ya, it's
              WS.
        \_ some of the other ones at that site are pretty good too.  I like:
                http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/sakuras2b.gif
                http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/wanage1.gif
                http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/SwampA2.jpg

7/28    John's (Scary) Link of the Day:
        http://www.fansoffieger.com/lawfame.htm -John

7/26    What is a good book(/other) about currency trading.

7/26    Now it's murky:
        http://csua.org/u/3qk

7/26    Batman meets Alien and Predator!
        http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend
        \_ batman vs alien: he'd cook up some high tech formula and zot it.
           batman vs predator could be really cool in a large cityscape like
           gotham/new york.  the aliens just aren't a bfd when the protagonists
           have real weapons.
           \_ "Just once, I'd like to meet an alien menace that isn't immune
               to bullets"  -Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart

7/25    John's (puerile) link of the day
        http://csua.org/u/3qa

7/26    Throbbing Gristle in reunion show shocker!!!
        http://www.mute.com/tg
        \_ throbbing gristle in my pants.
           \_ more like diminutive whistle
        \_ Hey! Genesis P Orridge and Cosey Fanni Tutti in da house!

7/25    Dow back to 10,000 by Fall.
        \_ Please sign your name.

7/25    Cubans make freedom bid in floating Chevy truck http://csua.org/u/3q2
        \_ Shoulda used a Ford.  -John
                \_ This is the first thing that came in to my mind when I read
                   the op earlier.  I realized it was not funny so I did
                   not post it.
        \_ Sounds like they've been watching Junk Yard Wars on cable.

7/25    This is to the person that's using the RAIDKing device.  Have you
        found out the manufacturer yet?  Thanks.
        \_ This afternoon.  I'll post.  I was out yesterday.

7/23    InterTrust vs. M$:
        http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,466180,00.html
        \_ oh f*cking please.  i suppose anyone who uses encryption is
           in violation too.  this is about as frivolous as patenting linked
           lists.
           \_ Aren't linked lists copyrighted by Dr. McCarthy?
           \_ oh f*cking please.  go learn what a patent is and how it gets
              enforced and come back.  you sound like a slashdotter with the
              standard ignorant "i just patented bad patents!!!!". this gross
              lack of understanding has been explained and corrected here and
              at /. numerous times to no avail.  go read an archive.
              \_ and your point is?
                 \_ you're right.  it's the motd.  i should have come to expect
                    this sort of unbreakable ignorance.
              \_ obviously someone living off his patents
                 \_ no but if I was I'd have earned it. and even if I was that
                    doesn't make what I said any less valid.  personal assault
                    doesn't win points.  the next time you invent something
                    worth more than a buck, lemme know.  I'll gladly take that
                    mean nasty worthless IP off your hands.

7/23    [motd meta-thread about haters censored]

7/23    Looking for an RealTek 8139 100Mb NIC, -daveh
        \_ ebay item# 3036938942

7/23    satisfaction
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/videoc/http/benn001/benn001_http_300_ref.mov

7/23    http://www.whichssl.org  interesting site comparing SSL certificate
        providers.  -John

7/22    silly question, how do you create URL redirects like
        http://csua.org/u/3p9 Thanks.
        \_ try going to http://csua.org/u
        \_ http://tinyurl.com is better.  http://csua.org makes bad links for some websites,
           like say any yahoo news story.
           \_ Why are they bad?

7/21    [repost] http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~kuri/panorama/pano0304e.html
        Enjoy the beauty of cherry blossoms.  The hatemongering stays on
        for days but a picture of beauty get deleted in hours?  Ugh...
        \_ It had nothing to do with LINUX! or BIKERIDING! so it goes....
        \_ Nice.  -John
        \_ your tagline was wrong.  try this
           The Belly of the Beast!!! See a picture of the natural habitat
           of the Washington neocon cryptofascist!
           http://csua.org/u/3p9

7/21    anyone had good experiences with open-source web-based photo
        alum?
        \_ just use gallery

7/21    For something completely different from all the hate in this forum.
        http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~kuri/panorama/pano0304e.html
        Enjoy the beautiful cherry blossoms.  My home made 'sakura' vinegar
        will be ready soon!

7/21    Is there a term to describe the converse of "currying"?  i.e., taking
        a function of no arguments and wrapping it in a function that takes
        one, unused argument? --jameslin
        \_ Function type casting.

7/21    Dr. Who thread deleted.
        \_ You bastard!
        \_ I missed the only Dr. Who thread the motd has ever seen?  You must
           be *punished*!

7/21    What is "cornholio"?  I know this is a term used by Beavis/Butthead.
        But what does it refer to?
        \_ Beavis: "I AM CORNHOLIO.  I need T.P. for my bunghole."
           T.P.      = toilet paper
           bunghole  = where your poop comes out of
           cornhole ~= bunghole
           "Are you threatening me?!?"  Also, "Cornholio" sounds like
           Don Corleone.
           \_ thanks for the pop culture explanation

7/20    motd restored after h0zer nuked it

7/17    What is the Latice?
        \_ Did you mean "Lattice"?

7/16    I thought "misha" was a russian girl's name.  So I sent a couple of
        flirt emails. Then I found that that misha was a big ugly russia GUY.
        Damn you!  Why is such a cute sounding name a man's name?
                -duped guy

7/16    It might be a tad difficult to wear a shirt over this:
        http://csua.org/u/3mz
        \_ I think that may very well be the idea.
        \_ If she didn't have those she could wear a pair of thimbles.

7/16    Did something nasty happen on the internet today around 1245pm?
        \_ Yermom is probably responsible.
        \_ My IE6 on XP crashed around that time, but it happens all the time.
        \_  An AT&T trunk went down...
        "Customers in the West Coast region may be unable to connect due to
              network conditions. For your reference, our ticket number is
              XXXXXXXXX. Our engineers are working on the issue. Thank you."
              \_ Makes me wish a real Skynet disguised as supervirus was about
                 to start WWIII. Esp today, the 58th ann of the 1st atomic bomb
                 \_ You'd be one of the first to die.  Just go do it and save
                    the rest of us the hassle of your suicidal plunge.
              \_ massive DOS attack
                  \_ Where can I get confirmation of that?
                  \_ Is that documented anywhere?

7/16    Can anyone recomend a book or web resource about electroplating for
        an amature?  I just want to plate aluminum on copper or copper on
        aluminum.
        \_ High school chem textbook?

7/14    What is a good place in San Francisco to see live lounge piano playing?
        \_ Lefty O'douls.  Good corned beef too.
        \_ any bad low end dive?
        \_ Tiki room in the basement of The Mark.
        \- lush lounge
        \_ Power Exchange and Diva's

7/14     "We don't know if it's true - but NOBODY can say it was wrong -
         that is not known." -Ari Fleischer

7/12    I haven't commuted from the east bay in a really long time, if I
        were to drive from Concord to Mountain View during morning rush hour
        how early should I leave? I want to get there around 10:00 or 10:30.
        On a completely unrelated note, did you know you can actually break
        your arm while arm wrestling? this just happened to a friend of mine.
                \_ Commuting from Concord? Concord to Walnut Creek = 20 min.
                   then Walnut Creek to the Bridge = 20 min. then Bridge to
                   to SF = 10 min. Down 101 to Mt. view. 20 min? Sounds like
                                   \_ 45 minutes, not 20 min.
                  at least 1 hr 10 min with traffic, if you are lucky.
        \_ i would bet about 2 hours..
        \_ From North Oakland(claremont ave) to Palo Alto takes me
           40 minutes, without traffic (e.g. 930am), FWIW.
        \_ From North Oakland(claremont ave) to Palo Alto (San Antonio Rd)
           takes me 45 minutes, when there is no traffic (e.g. 930am).
           Taking dumbarton.
           Taking dumbarton. Avoid SF and Bay bridge, dont be stupid.
           You might be able to take 680 and 237, if you're very lucky.

7/13    ''Job Exports May Imperil U.S. Programmer''
        http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/technology/AP-Tech-Moves-Offshore.html

7/12    Suggestions for a good take-out deli near campus? (Actually, near
        Emeryville would be even better.)
        \_ I like Emery Bay Cafe in Emeryville; at Christie and Powell near
           the Denny's and Allegro Ballroom. -chaos

7/12    In "A Clockwork Orange," the street hooligans of the dark future
        speak in a strange hybrid of Russian and English.  Now everywhere
        i look i see street hoodlums with chinese characters tatooed all
        over their bodies.  life imitating art?
        \_ Fashion, my friend. Think designers, feng shui, zen, etc.
        \_ Lamerz imitating basketball players.
        \_ Doubtful.  ACO is a little too obscure to be at the root of this.
        \_ Heh, Tatooing yourself with something trendy... hehehe....

7/11    What are some interesting commands? I'll start:
        more -> less
        man  -> woman
        \_ rm -f /etc/motd.public
        \_ make, cc

7/10    Motd poll--Favorite element
        Aluminum:  .
        Silicone:
        Berkelium: .
        Gold: .
        The Fifth Element: .
        The chick from the Fifth Element: .

7/9     Ben Johnson outsprinted by gypsy kids:
        http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/johnson000712.html

7/9     I'm trying to manually set the DPI for XFree86 using kdm.  I know I can
        do startx -- -dpi XX but I don't know how that applies to kdm.  Where can
        I set this?

7/8     <DEAD>www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5654971?source=Reuters<DEAD>
        It's a good thing we didn't waste any money on that crazy Star Wars
        crap.  They'd just run a blockade and bring the nukes into a port!

7/8     go to http://googles.com and type in "weapons of mass destruction"
        then hit the "i'm feeling lucky button."  Read teh text

7/8     Can anyone recommend a good residential plumber near Mountain View?
        \_ Excellent service from yermom last night. Highly recommend. A++++.
           Took care of all my plumbing -- and all at her residence.
           \_ yeah nice n all but is she licensed and bonded?  I don't hire
              non-pros!

7/8     Q) Are you going to telecommute from Santa Clara, Calif., or
           move north to Beaverton, Ore., where OSDL is headquartered?
        A) Telecommute. I'll be visiting physically every once in a while.
           (To answer an earlier question. from http://csua.org/u/3je

7/8     What are the pros and cons of wearing full leather vs. textile gears
        (cordura, leather-tex, etc)? Thanks.
        \_ Leather will attract the standard crowd.  The others will get you
           a smaller but interesting set of 'friends'.

7/8     George W taunts Iraqi guerillas:
        http://csua.org/u/3ir
        \_ Where have you been?  This troll went by within hours of his saying
           it days ago.  Get off the motd, you slacker troll!
           \_ i know! the gall of a troll not trolling properly!
              \_ It has nothing to do with propriety, and everything to do with
                 punctuality.

7/8     Micheal Savage fired for anti-gay remarks:
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/935825.asp?0cv=BB10

7/7     What's a commonly available open source CRC32 utility? Thanks.
        \_ obgoogle
           \_ i did. it's not clear why gnu doesn't have one in textutils
              or something. crc32 is still fairly common, no?
              \_ The alg. is public.  Write it and release it under the GPL!
        \_ zlib
           \_ zlib isn't a utility, genius.
        \_ cksum
           \_ yes, i did try this, but it doesn't give the same result as
              the algorithm pkzip (and most other applications, it seems)
              uses.

7/7     http://csua.org/u/3i6 - holy crap they're making an extreme elvis doc!
        \_ hi paolo! - danh
        \_ EE appears in this month's Hustler.  No I have not seen it. - danh
           \_ Why not? -ausman

7/7     <DEAD>www.vymths.com<DEAD> - they counterIT FUD marketing.
        Too bad they're going out of business.
        \_ Too bad you can't spell.  maybe: http://www.vmyths.com

7/7     Perhaps body piercings should come with warning labels:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/3047436.stm

7/5     T3 >>>>> M2 (I'm boycotting Matrix by the way)
        \_ ...so what you're saying is that you found T3 to be much better
           than you're guessing M2 was, right?  This is not useful information.
        \_ On political grounds I assume?
        \_ maybe he means mission impossible
            \_ That would be MI2.

7/5     Would you do michelle wie? (no short asian dudes need apply)
        \_ Yes ..
        \_ No
        \_ After a few years, when her bust catches up .
        \_ After a few years, when she is no longer jailbait .

7/4     beer...sun...explosives...beer...fuckin' A!

7/4     Happy 4th of July!  (even to you America haters)
        \_ I did my part and bought Hail to the Thief and The War on
           Errorism today

7/2     I know this won't last more than 1 second after the socialist censors
        see it but what the hell.  Maybe a few of you will get a chance to
        read it and ponder for a moment before it goes:
        http://www.craigslist.org/eby/mis/13089105.html
        \_ "Bring Them On!"
        \_ Well written essay - freeper guy
        \_ I was right.  It didn't last 1 second after the haters saw it.
        \_ Damn, it's still gone. Must be them haters.
           \_ Because it's been restored 4 times but you knew that since you're
              one of the ones who deleted it.
        \_ So was the word 'neocon' an overt attempt to call conservatives
           'neonazis' or what?  What does it even mean?
           \_ Just some idiot too stupid to post a real reply who mistakenly
              thought editing some else's post was clever.  Restored again.
              I always know I've hit home when they edit my posts.  That's
              much more satisfying to me than when they simply delete them.

7/3     So anyone get an IM from their friendly RIAA telling them to stop
        trading Mp3s? I think it's just a scare tactic.
        \_ No.  I'm not a thief so the RIAA doen't bother me at all.
           \_ all bets are off when current IP law as it is.
        \_ No.  Of course, I do all my theft using ssh.

7/2     Will soda be a target of the July 6 mass hacker attack?
        link:www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6220539.htm
        \_ why bother?

7/2     I wondered why their url's were link:cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll
        reason:   Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0.

7/1     http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com
        The domainname speaks for itself

7/1     mutt 1.5.4 reinstalled, this time with compressed folders enabled;
        sorry about that.  Thanks to niloc for noticing, dbushong for saying
        what to do, and jwang for doing it.  --mconst

7/1     Clearly you all need some MORE hate in your pathetic little lives,
        swine.
        \_ freak

7/01    What does it mean that i have "carrier" transmission errors?
          TX packets:2460642 errors:36804 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:73608
           \_ I can't believe nobody knows this.  Anyone?
              \- well it depends on the media and the devices ... the most
                 common cause of ethernet frame errors i see these days are
                 boned duplex negotiation. but if this is linux, i've heard
                 about lots of different problems with linux. --psb

7/1     Restored as usual.  Why do you bother censoring anyway?  I'll never
        understand.  Good thing I've got this handy restore script.
        \_ Yeah, except your "restore" just removed most of the comments
           people have added in the last six hours. Good job, bozo!
           \_ Nothing important.  Just Tom babbling about how the web is a
              true form of modern social interaction.  Sort of like Everquest
              or Netrek or something I guess.  You weren't really going to
              read 15 lines of Tom drooling, were you?  Anyway, 6 hours? No.
              About 45 minutes.  You'll recover and go on with life I'm sure.

6/30    What's the difference between a studio and an efficiency?
        \_ Efficiency has minimal kitchen and often a shower stall rather
           than a full bath.

6/30    The coders for http://friendster.com are incompetent.
        \- clearly.
           \_ why do you say that?

6/30    Where can I find statistics of crimes committed by different races?
        For example what is the percentage of homocide by white/black/asian?
        \_ "homocide" is now legal per the supreme court. narrow it down,
           you mean in japan/korea/singapore? Or USA? Or Argentina?

6/30    Wow, Soda's been up for almost 160 days. Is that a record?
        \_ no.

6/28    I administer a mailman2 email list. I'm trying to see all the members
        on one page, rather than grouped by first letter in email address.
        I can't get the "Find Members" Regular Expressions to do what I expect.
        Is there something I'm missing?

6/28    [ sbc thread deleted because i was wrong -op ]

6/28    wow, sbc offers 1.5mbps up / 6mbps down for $99/mo.

6/26    RIP 100 years of racism -ST
        \_ "Time brings changes, and you can't go too far ahead of your
            people.  You have to lead the [white] people as best you can."
        \_ That is rather optimistic.  Are you saying racism has died with
           him?
        \_ All of those liberal supreme court decisions probably did him in
        \_ why would racism rest in peace? sure, cuz what he said/did he
           could be called that. but do you honestly think we can all get along?
        \_ Completely clueless, why even bother make an effort.

6/26    How can I extract certain pages of a pdf document and put them
        into their own document? Thanks.
        \_ man psselect, then do pdf2ps <file> | psselect -<your options>

6/25    In MSVC, how do you re-indent a code region?  Thanks.
        \_ Edit->Advanced->Format Selection (Alt+F8)
        \_ ED!

        Protect Free Speach! Motd Restored!

6/25    Maybe I'm way behind the times, but I finally installed Cygwin and
        I have seen the light.
        \_ How many lights do you see, Jean-Luc?
            \_ 14.

6/23    is anyone on the motd brave enough to post a review of hp5?
        \_ http://csua.org/u/3cf  Time magazine says it's the best so far
        \_ read it last night.  Didn't enjoy it - too unfocused, just not
           as interesting/fun as the others.  Wouldn't recommend it.
        \_ im looking for spoilers!
        \_ yes, in this book, harry potter goes beserk and starts sodomizing
           other young boys with his broom.
                \_ curious this is the first thing that you thought of.
                   \_ and it was pretty damn funny -!op
           \_ naw, then it would have been Harry Potter and the NYPD Zero
              Tolerance Policy.

6/23    I'm trying to find a synonym for the verb "nag" that is not
        as colloquial, but still conveys the annoyingness of nagging.
        No dictionary/thesaurus has helped. Does anyone have any
        suggestions. Thx.
        \_ badger (use for whatever nefarious purposes)
           \_ We don't need no stinkin' badgers!
        \_ pester
        \_ http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/thesaurus?book=Thesaurus&va=nag

6/23    http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com
        the URL says it all.
        \_ in case you need more background:
           http://www.courttv.com/news/2003/0618/lustercaught_ctv.html

6/23    Need links on how to deal with massive spam. Help with mailfilters?
                                -nesim

6/22    I want to build a touch sensative device or sculpture.  (Something
        simple first like a light goes on when you touch it.) Has anyone
        done anything like this?
        \_ nobody has ever done anything even remotely like this before
           \_ dood! i was at home depot and they had these badazz lamps
              that turn on when you touch them! i wuz like "daymm!"
              \_ dood! i had a lamp like dat! cept it turned on all by it's
                 bad self wheneva there was a breeze! ya dig??
        \_ Doorbell?
        \_ Look at one of those glass plasma storm balls you get at sharper
           image.  -John

6/21    You're at work on the weekend or at night, and you need help from
        a co-worker who knows some piece of information you need.
        by what algortithm do you decide wether to call them at home or to
        wait, but then end up waisting your own time?
        \_ If you ok it with this person ahead of time, then it's ok.
           But most ppl when they go home don't want "work" to follow
           them. Maybe you should think of going home, too.
        \_ algorithm, whether, wasting.  kids these days.

6/21    soda allows remote logins directly to root??

6/20    I've narrowed down the censorer(s) to: ***** and ****.  Anybody
        else can confirm?
        \_ rory, you fucker! - danh
           \_ are you kidding me? Is this a joke? Everybody knows its
              dans anyway.              - rory
              \_ yep, i caught dans doing a wipe when i looked last.
        \_ I'm neither of those two nor the culprit, but does it really
           matter that much to you who's censoring the motd?
           \_ yes
              \_ this motd will self-destruct in 5 seconds.
        \_ If you kill me, I will only become stronger than you can imagine.
        \_ no seriously, anyone care to tell me how I became indicted
           in all this? I couldn't be more innocent.    - rory

6/20    grammar troll deleted. loser.
        \_ fuckheads like that are unworthy of the term "troll".

6/20    "Me and many others" is a single plural term.  This is not
        what you were taught but did not learn in 3rd grade about
        "me and jonny were spanked for being bad" vs "I and jonny".
        In the future I'll confine myself to the simpler forms of
        English for you so as not to confuse the masses.
        \_ Could you explain this a bit more?  I was taught using
           the "whole-language" approach and my exposure to grammar was
           limited to a 6th grade English teacher who was too senile
           to know that grammar was out of style.  How does
           "Me and many others have" differ from "Johnny and I were"?
           \_ "me" is not a subject pronoun

6/18    /var full again.  certainly can't mail root about it.
        \_ /var slapped. Back to abusing the motd!
           \_ var filling up again.  Please slap /var
              \_ yeah, slap that bitch! who's your daddy!

6/18    Short Summary of below motd, so you don't have to read it:
        I got mine, so fuck you.

6/18    I'm looking for a cartoon.  It showed the evolution of man from monkey
        and has a 1950 where man stood upright.  And from then on the man
        becomes fat and eventually turns into a pig with 2003 as year.  I
        saw it on some web site but can't find it anymore.  Anybody have it?
        \_ The Nation has a poster that starts with Truman as a man and
           presidents descending slowly into pigs, then slugs, is that
           what you are talking about?

6/17    Looking for a heat wand thingy that can seal any plastic bag.
        Basically I wanna store my winter clothes in bags, vacuum air out,
        then seal them airtight. Where can I find these heat wand thingies?
        \_ Can't you just watch late night infomercials?
          \_ http://www.asseenontv.com
        \_ I wonder how hard it would be to build one.
        \_ garbage bags and tape aren't sufficient?

6/17    John's Link of the Day
        http://www.livejournal.com/community/linux/397771.html?thread= \
        2531787#t2531787
        \_ http://csua.org/u/3a1 shortened via http://csua.org/u
        \_ All your OS are belong to us.

6/18    Is there a way to make a reference to several consecutive
        items in your bibliography in LaTeX, like this: [1-5] ?
        I'm trying \cite{ref1 -- ref5} but it doesn't work. Thanks.
        \_ \usepackage{cite}. Then \cite{ref1,ref2,ref3,ref4,ref5} just
           like usual. (It also puts your refs in numerical order if
           necessary, as well it should.) Piece o cake.
                \_ Cool, thank you.

6/15    How many bytes does a 60m mini-DV tape take?

6/14    Techie interview attire question: what should I wear? Suit & tie, or
        paolo shirt + dockers? or??? help me obi-wan-motd-gods!!!
        -tired of looking like dork
        \_ I always just wear my jedi robes. some places get touchy about
           the lightsaber, though.  -owmg
        \_ depends on the place.  asking HR never hurts although the answer is
           usually a worthless "dress business casual/professionally" reply.
        \_ Corollary question:  Has wearing a suit and tie for an interview
           ever cost you a job?
        \_ Basically -- dress up as much as you can without "feeling like
           you're not yourself."  If you are usually a Tshirts and jeans kind
           of person whose "formal" means a button down shirt with khakis,
           then wear that.  Whatever stresses you out the least, because
           the important part is the content of the interview and if you are
           uncomfortable in your dress, you might just ruin the most important
           part.  I'd say minimum is a polo shirt and non-jeans (e.g., khaki or
           chino pants).  If you feel comfortable in a suit and have a GOOD
           suit, then go for it (it won't hurt whereas a dirty tshirt and
           crumpled jeans might).--chris, who used to be HR and hiring manager.

6/14    Motorcycling motd'ers: why are some harley handlebars so high?  It looks
        stupid and uncomfortable. Is there any reason for having them set like
        that?
        \_ High handlebars are for men.  Little boys should stick with lower
           close to the chest girly bars.
        \_ because harley riders are just a step below primitive apes.
           \_ Just like the sopistication of your humor.

6/14    erikred, green tea has like 20mg of caffeine in it.  That is
        pretty trivial.  Anyway, once you get to the green tea stage
        it is pretty easy to just drop off, though i don't know why
        you would want to.  -phuqm
        \_ how much caffeine is in semen?  I love drinking cum!  -bukkake boy
        \_ There's this new invention called 'email' for these kinds of
           messages.

6/13    What syllable do you accent when you say the word "silicon"?
        first syllable: ..
        last syllable:  .
        \_ http://webster.com now has a feature where you can hear the word.
           \_ What about the special feature where you just look at where
              they place the accent?
        \_ From /usr/local/bin/dict:
              Silicon \Sil"i*con\, n. [See {Silica}.] (Chem.)
           -geordan
        \_ Do you pronounce it "silicon" (rhymes with "cron") or
           "silicun" (rhymes with "bacon")?  I know what dict says, but
           how do real people pronounce it?
           \_ "real" people? get a clue. anyway, both pronunciations are
              used in practice, and both are acceptable.

6/13    Naked man scares shark to death:
        http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/06/13/offbeat.scared.shark.reut/index.html

6/12    Restored after idiot removed everything and added nothing.

6/12    Amusing terms for the ratio of reloads to slashdot article updates.
        Ready go:

6/11    gregory peck dies:
        http://csua.org/u/387
        \_ He was a Cal alum.

6/11    John's Link of the Day
        http://www.prawnography.net
        \_ well, it was enough to set off the "intelligent" webfilter at
           work.
           \_ One of the pages has a link to "Hardcore."  That might be
              the trigger.
        \_ hey thanks for the not-work-safe link.
           \_ Man, you work at an uptight place.

6/11    "This is David Brinkley reporting, and good night."

6/11    Anyone ever work with http://BeyondROI.com ?  Worth the cost?
        \_ they hiring?

6/11    John's Link of the Day
        http://j-walk.com/blog/docs/conference.htm

6/10    motd restored after idiot removed most of it without adding anything
        new to replace it.

6/10    For people working as programmers: what percentage of your time at
        work do you spend slacking off (web surfing etc?) and do you think
        some amount of slacking off is necessary in order to be productive
        the rest of the time?
        \_ Depends on the person, and the company.  If you burnout easily
           and need recharges through the day, but nail or beat deadlines,
           a good manager would be able to recognize this.  Keep in mind,
           though, that there are a lot of bad managers out there.  Also,
           as a manager, I would want to know that you can handle being
           "heads down" if you have to.
           \_ Do good managers ask employees to swallow?
              \_ Good employees will offer to swallow before a manager has
                 to ask.
                 \_ Good employees swallow without having to be asked.
                    \_ A good employee-manager relationship involves mutual
                       and simultaneous swallowing.

6/9     Quack quack . . . sorry, I'm in SoCal.

6/9     tight pants or loose pants on a first date?  ok tnx.
        \_ male or female?
           \_ the victim is female
        \_ Neither.  Kilt.  If yer man enough.  -John

6/9     Where can I find more info on SSE instructions?

6/8     Does the 'Tony' in "Tony Awards" stand for something,
        like "theatre of new york"? Can't find anything on the web.

6/7     What are some programs that can automatically add 1 + 1 like my
        free 4 function solar calculator does it?
        \_ uh, what?  are you having trouble adding 1 + 1?
        \_ expr

6/6     UT2K4 Screenshots: http://csua.org/u/35z  (avault.com)

6/6     If something is c*N^(M-1), is it O(N^(M-1)) or O(N^(M))?
        \_ N^(M) = N*(N^(M-1)  ==> O(N^(M-1)) is a better fit.
        \_ Yes. (wrong answer deleted -- N is not a constant)
        \_ You show a distinct lack of understanding of what O() notation
           is about.
           \_ Not really.  It's a good question.  We typically drop constants
              like '-1', but N^(M-1) == N^M / N which means that the '-1' isn't
              a constant at all. --not OP

6/6     I nearly wet myself laughing at this page:
        http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html          -John
        \_ Oh thank you, John. This almost wins you an indulgence for the rest
           of your tawdry sins.
           \_ It wasn't that funny.

6/6     It's amazing how you knuckleheads managed to turn the O(n) notation
        question into a flame fest.  You guys rock!
        \_ nerd flame?

6/5     What's the big deal with the three FCC commissioners and Michael
        Powell?
        \_ Do you have a real question?  Something in English that someone
           might be able to address, perhaps?

6/4     Slow Day, n.: when the spam doesn't arrive quickly enough.
        \_ buy more net

6/4     "its what the WEB used to be for for undergrads."
        \_ What does this mean?

6/4     How come collision/deductible amounts to about 1/2 of my insurance
        rate? Shoudln't bodily injury cost more  because of potential for
        big lawsuits, etc?

6/4     Y'know, the prevalence of phrases like "!op," "as suggested by a
        different poster above," and the like are getting obnoxious.  Just
        sign your posts... --scotsman
        \_ ok -- !scotsman
        \_ ok -- !0x73636f74736d616e
        \_ What if we just number ourselves?
           |_ use hex. -0xbeefbabe
                \_ hex only is a great idea! - 802070e9
              \_ That's a double-edged sword. -0xdeadbeef
           \_ I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM A FREE MAN. - No. 6.
        \_ the prevalence of idiots who whine about other not signing their
           posts and the like are getting obnoxious.  Just mind your own
           fucking business.  --!op
        \_ this is all lame.  -30473dcceb504b50337abfb5a2376a13
           \_ Yeah!  And I rule. - #1 from "The Prisoner"

6/4     Bathroom poll:
        Do you put the tab on the toilet seat napkin at the:
          front of the bowl: ..
          back of the bowl: ..
          bareback:
          \_ jesus you poeple use toilet seat covers?  And I get accused of
             being gay?  -aspo
             \_ Damn right. Real men contract their skin rashes with pride!
                That said, I've barely ever used a toilet seat condom and
                I've been fine for many years of use.
                \_ Still using the "I got it from a toilet seat HONEST!"
                   excuse huh?  Who is the idiot who falls for that one?
             \_ so being the manly man you probably don't wash your hands,
                shower, brush your teeth, and only ride bare back with
                the men you meet in bathroom stalls at public parks.
        Do you wipe:
          between the legs: .
          around the back: ..
          wipe?:

6/4     phpBB or phorum?
        \_ WWIV or vIsIOn2

6/4     How many of you think this Abbas guy would be assassinated soon.
        \_ Why hasn't someone blown up recently (it seems to happen whenever
           peacebrokers come to town)?  It seems like this is the real deal.
           Dubya, though, must be pretty upset that Martha stole all his
           headlines.
           \_ It's not the only thing Martha stole.
              \_ She's not the only one who stole.  Where are the rest
                 of these white collar criminals?
                 \_ I'm sure they feel really bad about what they did.
        \_ I think it more likely that an Isreali will assasinate Sharon.
           Remember what happened to Peres? If Sharon seriously tries
                                     \_ Do you mean Rabin?
                                        \_ Yeah Rabin, sorry.
           to dismantle the settlements, the settlers will kill him.
           \_ You just don't hear about every Palestinian killed by Arafat
              and his boys as a 'collaborator'.
        \_ Hes a 'former' PLO terrorist, with Arafat from the beginning. So
           hes one of them.
           \_ ... but palatable enough for Sharon and Dubya to talk to.
              \_ Because he has a long history of being outspoken that the
                 current form of resistence is useless.

6/2     How does one do the following:
        Sigma j=0 to i-1 of log (n-j)? How to get started? ok thx
        \_ Question 1: Did you ask about that summation problem last week?
           Question 2: You don't expect a closed formula for this one, do you?
           Hint 1: Look at Stirling's Approximation.
        \_ I'd fire up my VB IDE and got for it!

6/3     Hello.  Is it more efficient to dispatch the heat by turning
        the fan towards the door/window or towards the room?
        \_ "Dispatch" heat?
           \_ All right, I couldn't think of a better word.  What do
              you recommend?  "Get the hot air out of the room"?
              \_ Dissipate. Yeah, I was just being an ass.
                 \_ I like dispatch better. !op
                        \_ I would have said "remove", but "dispatch"
                           certainly also seems correct to me.  Behold this
                           definition of dispatch:
                        3 : to dispose of (as a task) rapidly or efficiently
        \_ Do you have two windows?
           \_ No, just one.  So it doesn't make a difference?
              \_ He's suggesting cross-ventalation.  The best way to lose
                 heat if it's hotter inside than out is to move the air
                 in one opening (e.g. a window) and out another (e.g. a
                 second window or a door).  If you don't have the second
                 opening, outside-in is usually marginally better,
                 depending on the exact shape of your space.
                 \_ how would one formally proof that outside-in is
                    marginally more efficient?
                    \_ good luck with that. it's a nice, messy
                       fluid-mixing problem best addressed with
                       computational fluid dynamics. in practice,
                       you want to push cool air in at the bottom of
                       the opening and warm air out at the top to
                       reinforce normal convection.
                        \_ Yes, that is what I concluded by considering
                           normal convection, but it is nice to know this
                           has been proven.
                           \_ not really proven.  demonstrable for many
                              parameters of room shape, etc. as suggested
                              by a different poster above.

6/3     I should have thought of this....
        "Man late for flight tries bomb threat"
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/921337.asp?0cv=CB20
        \_ Please.  If you want a close relationship with men like Bubba,
           you could always just go to a gay bar.  Having a prison sentence
           and a criminal record is just going too far.
        \_ Actually, this has happened a number of times...

6/1     How much do the airport security guys make? -displaced IT worker
        \_ The baggage checkers start at 30k/yr, the air marshalls at 43k/yr
           I think they both get a bonus if they live in an expensive area.
           Air Marshalls are supposed to work 10 hr/day.

6/1     Anyone want a BS CS in Gaming:
        http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/06/02/game.university.ap/index.html
        \_ when I grow up, i'm going to Bovine University!
           \_ MOO!
           \_ I've had just about enough of your Vassar-bashing, young lady!

6/1     Is the net slow for anybody else this evening / afternoon?

5/31    Poll: back in 96 you thought the Olympic Bombing was done by:
        Mideast Terrorist:      .
        Home brewed nut:        .
        Ted Kaczynski follower:
        GWB: .

5/30    <DEAD>gaybetamax.co.uk/flash2.html<DEAD>
        \_ is this work safe?  in general would people please say if something
           is work safe and if it makes noise or not if it isn't a known site?
           \_ it's work safe but it's boring.

5/30    why does eudora totally screw up pop3 transfers off soda on a
        regular basis?  i end up with a box full of duplicate messages...
        very annoying!
        \_ you stick a shitty mail client with a shitty mail protocol on a
           machine managed by students and you wonder why it's broken?

5/30    I want the truth!
        \_ ob: You can't handle the truth!
        \_ ob: The Tru7h is out there!

5/29    motd poll.  whom would Phil date?
        \_ lila: .
           chaos:
           kane:
           yermom:
           ED:
           tpc:
           idontknowwhatthefuckyouretalkingabout: .
           Alyssa P. Hacker:
           \_ Phil Nunez, obviously! *hits with clue stick*
           kchang: .
           the potsticker thief: .
           tjb: .

5/28    So is Lila's job hunt the only thing worth talking about now?  I see
        all other non-Lila inspired topics have been erased multiple times.
        If Lila was "Bob" or "John" or "Joe" would we all be so 'concerned'
        about helping poor Lila figure out what to do with her life?  I
        suspect not.

5/27    Are your options worth something now?  Are you cashing out?
        \_ No.  If I could.