9/17    how fast is t1? t2? t3? c?
        \_obGoogle
        \_ t1 ~ 1.544mb. never heard of a t2. t3 ~ 45mb. oc-3 ~ 155mb
        \_ t2 was about 7 bucks and 137 minutes fast.  152 for the director's
           cut and 154 for the extended special edition.
           \_ is anyone even interested in t3, which just finished filming?
              \_ hardly anyone. but a multimillion dollar marketing campaign
                 will fix that.
              \_ why wouldn't they be?  it might be good, it might not.

9/15    Who has met Lee Felselstein at Interval?
        \_ ask ali.

9/15    Ms. 34B, come to papa!  M..M..M..
        \_ Someone was up very early/late with some one handed keyboard action.
        \_ nothing wrong with a 34D
        \_ PicsP

9/15    See this movie, "Series 7: Contenders".

9/14    Cal leading 15th ranked MSU 25-0.  Wow.
        \_ Boller rushing for a TD was AWESOME! Why didn't they fire
           Ho(l)moe long ago?
           \_ what about Boller catching a TD?
        \_ Man, I wake up, and it's 39-14. I was thinking we had no chance
           against a real team since we hadn't played against one yet.
        \_ 5 turnovers...we normally don't score that many points!
        \_ 3-0!
           \_ WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE BEARS!!
                \_ no Ho(l)moe anymore.
                   \_ and to think, he was offered an extension before
                      last season...
                   \_ Hey, it's still his recruited classes playing
        \_ do you think they'll be top 25 ranked by the end of the season?
           \_ when they beat Michigan instead of Michigan State, we'll talk

9/13    http://www.cthuugle.com   If you have to ask, you don't know.

9/13   \_ To whomoever deleted this: fuck you, you cock-gobbling pile of shit.
           \_ It might help if you actually added a brief note about it.
              URL's with no commment or explanation are often culled out of
              hand.                               -mice
              \_ That's a really annoying habit that people have here. !op
              \_ How about this: you pretend there's a little comment next to
                 the bare url saying "this is a link that might be of interest."
                 for some things there just isn't any reasonable explanation.

9/13    What's the difference between Aikido and Hapkido?  Thanks.
        \_ As far as I can tell, Aikido is a Japanese art and Hapkido
           (Hankido as well?) is Korean.  Ha[np]kido incorporates
           techniques from TKD, Aikido, and Judo.  I believe both words
           mean the same thing in their respective languages (stuff about
           universe and harmony and way and all that).  I don't do either
           of those arts, though, so you might be better off using google.
           -geordan
                \_ which one will more effectively allow me to kick your ass?
                   \_ Run fu -geordan
                   \_ !fu -- Gal
                   \_ 9mm-fu but others prefer .38-fu.
                      \_ 45ACP!  45ACP!  45ACP IS THE STANDARD!  Gun caliber.
                      \_ Ah, gun fu.  I prefer the .45 ryu style. -geordan
                         \_ again, it's all about !fu.
        \_ I've taken both, but neither for very long.  Aikido tends to
           be a lot more about moving in circles and "using an opponent's
           strength against them", a lot of throws, some joint work, but
           not all that much.  Hapkido seems like it has a lot more
           locks, some throws, just a little bit of striking, and less
           philosophy / cultivation of a mindset.  The difference in my
           perception may have more to do with taking Aikido at a private
           place and taking Hapkido at Cal, though, than the actual
           differences between the two.  -niloc
        \_ Hapkido is a nice mix of things - throwing, kicking, mat work,
           rolls, wrist techniques, falls.  If you're interested, just go
           to RSF and watch one of the Hapkido club workouts, or take the
           PE class.  It's a very useful all-around martial art, and the
           cal club is both fun and very affordable - mds
           \_ i did not *really* apreciate how great the UC martial
              arts program at cal is until I saw what martial arts are
              like at other suposedly great schools. enjoy it while you
              can. if you have access to the RSF, now is the time to try
              whatever martial arts you're interested in.

9/13    My 100 shares of stock dropped more than 5% at the opening.  Uh... my
        p/e ratio is improving!  Half-full!  :-)

9/11    Send this stupid woman a dictionary:
        http://csua.org/u/262 -urld
        \_ Isn't this story like 2 years old, or does this just happen every
           two years or so?
           \_ The news are just too niggardly to come up with anything new.

9/11    ibble ibble! blah blah!
        \_ Too true!
           \_ url please!
              \_ obgoogle.
                 \_ Troll!

9/11    Send this stupid woman a dictionary:
        http://wm.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73110448763906&Avis=WM&Dato=20020910&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=209100314&Ref=AR

9/11    [ A moment of silence has passed ]

9/10    Does anyone trust high-density SDRAM?  I called tech support of a
        company that sells it but their tech guys don't even recommend it.

9/10    You can do better than troll boy. Try Again.
        \_ No.  It's real and it's restored.  Sorry your life/job are so
           boring.  Not everyone lives your boring shitty sexless life.  I
           wouldn't be the first person getting laid in this or any other
           company with their boss or anyone else.

9/10    our lost cousin:  http://www.berkley-u.edu

9/9     What's the difference between a skeleton and a stub?
        A stub is a client-size proxy representing a remote function,
        right?  Then what is the skeleton used for?
        \_ the skeleton is the other bit of the function, the one that is
           run on the server.

9/9     Anybody here been to an IETF meeting?  I'm planning to go to the
        next one and I'm wondering what it's like.  Thanks.
        \-yes, it dpedns a lot on whether someine like say DJB shows up.--psb
        \-yes, it dependsa lot on whether someone like say DJB shows up.--psb
          \_ who exactly are you referring to?  Who is DJB?
             \_ http://cr.yp.to/djb.html
          \_ Is that a D or a T?
             \_ Foolish Mortal!  Question Not The psb!!! --psb #1 Fan
                \_ From a personality point of view it doesn't make a
                   whole lot of difference. -- acquainted with [td]jb

9/7     this is actually not a torll.  does anyone believe any of that
        crazy babylonian stuff from Snow Crash?  how much did Stephenson
        just make up?
        \_ Well, it was all fiction except for the parts about
           Raven doing yermom.
        \_ I read about it in a sci-fi soft cover trash comic book so it must
           be true.

9/8     We went to Costco today and bought sodas, candy, and chips.
        Those who would like to purchase some are welcome to come by
        the office and do so.  --pboynton, ajani, jhs

9/7     That was yesterday's troll, twink.
        \_ Go fuck yourself, petulant juvenile twit.
           \_ It was yesterday's troll, twink.
              http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=9345   -John

9/7     Why must we send inspectors to Iraq? Don't we have spies?
        \_ Humiliation value.
           \_ I'm so sick of hearing about how humiliating everything is.  This
              is the world stage, not Ms. Smith's third grade class.  There are
              big powerful countries and little shitty countries.  The big
              countries always get what they want.  The shitty ones always
              cave.  No one would spend real money or risk lives to humiliate
              anyone in some 4th rate shithole.  Ridiculous.
        \_ To confirm publicly what our spies (and Mossad) have told us.
        \_ To scope out the hot chix.

9/7     Someone was asking about CNN newsclippings on Sept 11?  here is
        something which may be of interest to you:
           http://911digitalarchive.org

9/6     Silicon Valley WebGuild meeting Weds. 9/11 in San Jose.  Topic:
        "Diaster Recovery - Are You Ready." Speakers from IBM Crisis Manage-
        ment Team and Legato.  More info http://www.webguild.org - cathyg
        \_ Disaster Recovery 1A: Make tapes daily, send off site, pray, keep
           resume shiny and up to date.

9/5     dessert storm redux has begun!!!

9/5     So what's wrong with the term "guest"?
        \_ nothing wrong with the term guest but the stupid emails have led
           nice smart people to ask to be removed from csua@csua (i.e.
           a certain ex-vp now current grad student most of us respect).
           pls keep inanities to motd. thx.
                                \_ where paolo will delete them every 3
                                   minutes.
           \_ Paolo, grow up.
        \_ If you have to ask, you don't know.
           \_ Uh huh, this is so stupid I'm not sure I should even bother to
              point it out.
              \_ You must be new.
                 \_ No, I'm old.  It's just like electroshock therapy.

9/6     http://www.calpatriot.org/issueupdate/911.html
        Now I remember why going to Cal helped turn me away from the left.
        I'd forgotten what my earlier political influences really were.
        \_ Final paragraph says the organizers are urging students to
           express their views on open microphone sessions. I wonder how
           they'll take to someone going up there and start singing the
           national anthem or God Bless America.
           \_ They'd just get shouted down like it says they were last year.
              You know "open mic" is hardly the same as having your official
              5 minutes of fame.

9/6     Why not to live in Greece:
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/802893.asp?0dm=C14LT&cp1=1
        \_ an older and more intelligent article about this in NY Times:
           http://csua.org/u/216
        \_ This has been all over the place.  Old, old, old.

9/5     How do I disable the banner page (cover sheet) with cups?  I'm
        using ver 1.1.15
        \_ read docs or use google

9/4     Is there any medical reason to shower regularly?  what will happen
        to me if i stop?
        \_ You won't breed.  Your grades will drop as profs and TA despise
           your existence and other students avoid you.  You'll always pay
           the highest price in a negotiation situation and will always get
           the worst possible service if you get served at all.  There are
           few medical consequences of note.  Since you're ignoring the real
           reason for showering, you're probably already long past the social
           consequences anyway.  Go ahead, stop showering.  It's perfectly ok!
        \_ You will become indistinguishable from scores of other eecs
           undergrads who have graced the halls of soda and cory.
        \_ Your chances of getting laid goes to near zero if you don't
           shower at least regularly.  Yes, even nearer zero than it is
           right now.  To be honest, you probably will not notice a
           difference anyway, so just go ahead and stop showering.
           \_ Unless you're French and in France.
              \_ Been there, not really so.  They should shave those pits,
                 though.

9/4     Does anyone on soda run an ebay based business?
        \_ An ex-coworker was making a few bucks a week.  Not enough to retire
           but she was doing ok with minimal effort.  It also gave her some-
           thing to do during work hours.

9/3     Where should i go to sell 24K gold jewlery?
        \_ plenty of fences down on san pablo...  bring a gun.
        \_ you could try the oakland bart.  guy tried to sell me a diamond
           ring there once.
            \_damn it, it's not stolen, it's a life-time of gifts that will
               NEVER be worn, but are high quality. -top

9/2     http://www.nuit.org/thelema/images/ritesPoster2002.jpg (anyone going
        to the one tomorrow?)
        \_ dude!  im so totally there!  yes!  wouldnt miss it for the world!
        \_ What's that?

9/2     Anyone know of a full implementation of MPI 2.0 available for Linux
        or in source form? Expensive or free, it doesn't matter. --dim
        \_ mpich does NOT implement it, I'm sorry to say.
           \_ I know this. I can tell you lots of MPI implementations which
              aren't 2.0 compliant. Know of any that *are*? --dim

8/31    should i switch my allegiance to overture?
        \_ maybe

8/31    ... yet another runaway 'sh' process, thanks to dim.
        \_ Killed, but I have no explanation. --dim

8/31    Cal 70, Baylor 22
        \_ Well, duh!  Of course Berkeley's academic rating is higher.
           \_ No way!  The only important thing is school spirit!

**/**   Fall 2002 officers' meetings: Thursdays at 6:00 in 337 Soda.

8/30     will mond prevail over dark matter?
        \_ maybe

8/28    MTV-vma: now.

8/29    Anybody recognize the voice in the soundtrack of this movie?  The
        woman's voice is quite mesmerizing...
        http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/heaven.html
        I cannot find the information in the official site.  Thanks.

8/29    Favorite Search Engine:
        1. Google: ..
        2. motd:   .
        3. friend:
        4. yermom: ....
        5. Yahoo:  .
           \_ ObNotASearchEngine
              \_ What engine is it then when I search in Yahoo?
                 \_ Well, it says "Powered by Google" when I search
                    from http://www.yahoo.com so I'm guessing it's probably
                    Google.
                    \_ Try again.  Software: google.  Indexes: yahoo
                                                        \_ Indices, jackass.
                                                                        _/
                From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:
                  Index \In"dex\, n.; pl. E. {Indexes}, L. {Indices}(?).
                  (jackass)
                   \_ Did it really say "jackass" in the dictionary?
        7. Astalavista: .
        8. Kazaa:  .
        9. wall: .

8/28    has this labor union strike affected anyone here directly?
        \_ Yes, too much noise at all major campus entrypoints, have to walk
           elsewhere to have a conversation at normal volume.

8/28    restored.

8/28    Poll, olympics in the BA:
        yay: ..
        nay: ...
        cock: .
        \_ I don't think 'cock' is an official olympic event yet but by 2012,
           who knows?

8/27    jor, please kill your 'sh' process
        \_ only after my fluid dynamics simulation is completed.

8/28    What is the difference between a coup and a putsch?
        \_ Depends on whether you want a french style "off with their heads"
           regime change, or a russian style "shoot them all and dump their
           bodies in the snow" regime change.  American style would be to
           almost do it, then not, then come back 10 years later.
           \_ What do you mean by "almost" in American style?  We did overthrow
              British control.
              \_ I do believe he is refering to the current Iraq situation.

8/27    4600: still 233.  9700: rises to 388.33....
        \_ Wow. We have our own http://pricewatch.com proxy here on the MOTD.
           \_ Just grinding it in for the mindless 9700 fanatic.
        \_ Quotes from Hong Kong Stock Exchange?
           \_ video card pricing.  Reality vs. marketing-hype-boy-fanatic.
        \_ This is something I don't understand. Why do you care when you know
           that the price will go down by 50% by next year? What is the point?
           Getting the cheapest model right now is like sleeping in front
           of the theatre for 5 days just so that you can catch Lucas' latest
           crap-- what do you expect to lose if you wait a day or two?
           \_ background: I originally mentioned it a few days ago when a few
              people were asking about video cards.  9700pro-fanatic-fanboy
              came online to claim the 4600 is crap compared to his not-yet-
              shipped 9700pro.  I'm just rubbing it in until the damned thing
              finally does ship and we get real price comparisons.  Then I'll
              rub it in some more.  For the record: I don't plan on owning
              either card and agree with you that fanboyism is stupid.
              \_ Oh, now you sound rational.

8/27    Anyone have an audio clip of "Conan, what is best in life..."?  -John
        \_ ever heard of google? jeez. one of hundreds:
           http://www.geocities.com/manindersandhu1982/sounds.html

8/26          \_ of course, i was actually there when 60abc was created.
                 and one of the stated goals was cs50/55 was too difficult,
                 and there was too much material to be covered in 2 semesters.
                 i was even there when they decided that teach both scheme
                 and c in 1 semester was too difficult, and they watered
                 that down also.
                 \_ Who are you? Email me, I'm quite curious to hear some
                    concrete details of what happenned with the 50->60 switch,
                    if you're indeed for real. -alexf
                    \_ you could ask clancy or bh for details. anyway, once
                       you've got the details, could you post a summary in
                       /csua/tmp?
                       \_ a ugrad perspective is likely to differ substantially
                          from that of clancy and bh. -alexf
                          \_ not sure what else there is to say.  the
                             unofficial reason for going from the 50/55
                             sequence to the 60abc sequence was too many
                             people was failing out of 50.  so they
                             essentially took the original 50 and split it
                             into 2 classes, 60a and 60c.  60b was largely
                             the same as 55.  of course, after the 1st
                             semester, it was obvious students still
                             couldn't handle both c and scheme in one
                             semester.  so by the 2nd semester of the class
                             (sp87 i think), they further reduced 60a to
                             scheme only and saved c for 60c.  scuttlebutt
                             was guys who took the original 60a breezed
                             through the watered down 60c, and guys who
                             took the later watered down 60a had more
                             problems. -tse

8/27    *sigh* ...and the idiotic censorship continues.     -mice
        \_ just some humorless little twit.  why bother mentioning it?  you're
           just feeding it's deep psychological need to feel 'powerful'.

8/26    CSS question: how do I prevent a hyperlink from being underlined?
        \_ { text-decoration: none }
           \_ don't you need an 'a' before that? ie:
                <style> a { text-decoration: none } </style>

8/26    Is there a way to make slrn show the entire thread when there are
        one or more messages that are unread?
        \_ use the source, luke.

8/26    ok sue me, but what in the hell is up with pine?
        \_ Its not working.
           \_ Works fine now (12:10am).  It was acting funny earlier for
              me too (taking a loooong time to start), but it seems okay now.
              \_ startup time for mh: zero.

8/26    For the readers of the NYTimes
        http://csua.org/u/1ab
        <DEAD>www.smartertimes.com<DEAD>
        \_ Boo-f&%ing-hoo. If the NYPost is more your speed, knock yourself
           out. They're both online.
        \_ Let's see, the New York Times is an example of "super-liberalism"
           and the Moonie run Washington Times is an example of objective
           discourse. What a strange and wonderful world you must live in.
           \_ Mr. I-Hate-The-WT, you have yet to actually prove or demonstrate
              or provide *any* evidence whatsoever that the WT reporting is
              influenced by the moonies, whereas the NYT is clearly a leftist
              mouth piece.

8/25    4600: 233 now vs 9700pro's loss lead 374.33 in maybe a week or two.
        \_ that sounds like something Hitler might say.

8/23    Couch for sale.  Free.  Ghetto Chic. -jones
        \_ Capitalist pig!
           \_ Sigh... no, he's obviously an anti-capitalist traitor seeking to
              destroy the local economy as it pertains to pre-owned furniture.

8/23    Here's why you need to be *very* careful who you believe and what you
        base your political beliefs on, especially if the source is obviously
        agenda-driven. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020823-23126206.htm

8/22    whew... new job, back on the motd... its been a while.
        \_ you didn't miss much.
        \_ how is your new job?
           \_ And what were you doing before the new job and being back?

8/22    has anyone here read Stephen Wolfram's absurdly massive book?
        is it worth a damn?
        \_ who?
        \_ You mean Stephen WOLFRAM the scientist?
           \_ yeah, author of mathematica.  just wrote absurdly large book.
        \_ no,but i've been spending an absurd amount of time playing jon and
           bernie and rik's horribly addictive game Wulfram2

8/22    I have some CDROMs and DLT tapes that need disposing of, but don't
        have a decent degausser/disintegrator at hand.  Since I'm on the
        Berkeley campus I assume there is someplace nearby with this capacity.
        Where should I look?
        \_ you have a disintegrator?  cool!
        \_ try LBL.  i am sure they have some strong magnetic fields.

8/22    whew... back at work, back on the motd... its been a while.

8/22    has anyone here sucked Stephen Wolphram's absurdly massive cock?
        is it worth a damn?
        \_ who?
        \_ You mean Stephen WOLFRAM the scientist?
                \_ WHO??? Is he a sexy scientist?

8/2     How common is corp espionage? Is it common for spies to send out
        codes/source trees?
        \_ Quite.  Yes.
        \_ Avant! v Cadence.  Cadence v Synopsys.  etc
                \_ only EDA companies?

8/21    What happened to catdoc? what are better way to view Word
        document?
        \_ wvHtml, part of the wv package.  Which isn't installed on soda
           ... yet. -geordan
        \_ surprisingly you can get 99% of the text out of a word doc with
           'strings'.  Yes, the formatting is totally fucked up, etc, but
           if you only need to read the text, it will do that.
           \_ Also you get the added fun of seeing all the revisions tacked
              on to the end.  I forget who it was that received a form
              generated offer letter in Doc format and read it with
              strings|more, and saw the names of previously accepted
              people at the end. -geordan
              \_ Someone forgot to turn off Fast Save.

8/21    wow, the Motd Butcher is really going at it today.  Why don't you let
        a thread live for more than 8 minutes?

8/21    I have negatives from color film and try to print onto black
        and white paper with a black and white enlarger, what will the
        results be like?  Similar to if i started with black and
        white negatives?
        \_ yes.
        \_ yes but it'll be less contrasty. Use a type 4 paper or a multi
           grade paper with 3.5 filter

8/20    <DEAD>www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3830/savage3830.html<DEAD>

08/20   When divorcing, each spouse gets 1/2 of the communal and the other's
        wealth in addition to debt, right?  Are there any legal reasons, such
        as infidelity, that will cause a spouse to lose such rights?  And, to
        what extend does one have to prove the infidelity?
        \_ Don't get legal advice from the motd. Having said that, California
           only permits no fault divorces. So infidelity will have no effect
           on property settlement.
           \_ Not completely true.  Many prenuptual agreements include
              infidelity clauses, which have proven enforcable in court.
              Also when there are children involved unequal splits of the
              property assets are common.  Good rule of thumb, though, is
              divorces suck and motd legal advice sucks almost as badly.

8/20    why aren't you all dead yet?
        \_ I'm feeling better!
        \_ please drink some antifreeze, I eagerly await your death
        \_ give it time.  it'll happen.
        \_ I'm working as hard as I can.

8/20    ...and the girl she kinda knows from the gym!

8/19    [Description of deletion of URL with no description deleted]

8/19    Does anyone know what happened to <DEAD>modssl.org<DEAD>?  Thanks
        \_ It got hacked... hahahaha!

8/19    [URL with no description deleted]

8/18    science babe of the week -Jennifer Cash:
        http://www.chemistry.ucsc.edu/Projects/SURF/2001/cash.jpg

8/18    hurry before they delete this post:
        http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sys/5246742.html

8/18    Is there somewhere in South Bay we can give away spare old computer
        parts?
        \_ The boat that goes to China.

8/17    Poll, I mainly use the following(s):
                                        \_ somebody needs to get a dictionary.
        online dictionary: ....
        print dictionary: .
        online thesaurus: .
        print thesaurus:
        Poll 2:
        Merriam-Websters Collegiate: .
        Merriam-Websters Abridged: .
        Roget's thesaurus: .
        \- Wall/motd is my dictionary
        \_ ED! ED is the STANDARD online dictionary/thesaurus/spell chcker!

8/17    looking to form a suicide pack.  bridge prefered.
        \_ pact, twink.
           \_ and you wonder why OP wants to suicide?
              \_ that's not a verb, twink.
                 \_ Unfortunately, it is if enough people use it that way.
                    \_ it's a word of standard english when a significant
                       fraction of the population uses it. thus far, "to
                       suicide" is not nearly that widespread, as best i can
                       tell.
                    \_ so it looks like they've decided to action on
                       suiciding by orientating towards marketspeak?
                 \_ uh oh, someone needs to go get their strunk & white out
                    and do a refresher on the "be" verbs section.  for shame!
                    imagine that.  coming onto the motd and incorrectly
                    correcting someone's grammar.  shocking!  i'm shocked!
                    btw, if I were an idiot this is the point where I'd call
                    you some inane and childish thing like "twink".  sheesh.
                    \_ "to suicide" is a "be" verb? enlighten me, monsignor
                        \_ Strunk & White.  Thanks.  If you don't own one then
                           you're not in much of a position to comment, eh?
              \_ I only wonder why he hasn't done it already.
                 \_ probably tried and failed
        \_ I'm in, provided you go first.
        \_ it's spelled preferred, you twink.
        \_ that bridge in Pasadena just south of I-210 is just made for
           people to jump/drive off of, too bad I'm nowhere near it anymore

8/16    Can clean wooden chopsticks be recycled with yard wastes?  I have too
        many of them and I don't really have any use of them.  Thx.
        \_ give 'em to me!  I'll use them!  -aspo
           \_ Sorry, I don't live near Berkeley.
           \_ As long as you promise not to tell us what you're using
              them for... -geordan
              \_ I remember there was an episode in the "Brother" that involved
                 a very painful use of chopsticks..
              \_ We OP did say they're "clean".  I wonder if that means they're
                 surgically sterile?
                 \_Anything can be made surgically sterile. All you have to do
                 is autocleave it.
                 \_ By "clean" I mean new, unused.  -- OP

8/16    any updates on imap or pop over ssh?  still appears
        non-functional.  thanks!

8/15    Silver Persian needs a good home
        Know anyone? interested yourself?
        email jsl@csua.berkeley.edu
        \_ Is he swarthy?
           \_ You idiot.  She said silver.
        \_ Is he yummy?  Pre-take-home taste test allowed?
           \_ As long as it's washed properly, not too old, and
              disease-free, it should be okay.

8/15    MOTD poll: Anyone here drives one of those exotic car with a six-figure
        MSRP?  I'm day-dreaming about my next car, and saw that some of these
        cost as much as my house.  How did you make your dough for it?
        Ferrari         :
        Lamborghini     :
        Aston Martin    :
        Well Endowed    : .
        Bank robbery:   : .
         \_ is that how you made your dough or an excuse for your shitty ride?
        Bank robbery:   : .
        \_ A friend at UNC did it by selling a company to Sun and being
           a generally impressive guy.  He has since crossed the line
           from Ferrari collector to Ferrari shop owner.
        \_ what about a used one?
           \_ That counts too, but how much did it cost?
           \_ That counts too.  How much did it cost?
              \_ I was just suggesting that you might look into
                 more afforable used ones.
        Insider Trading: .

8/15    Given a line with xy coordinates, how can you tell if that line
        will overlap a rectangle if both xy points fall outside the
        rectangle?
        \_ google "method of separating axes" -pld
        \_ Easy anwer: check if the line interests any of the rectangle's lines
           \_is that the only solution? seems like an inefficient method.
             \_ Maybe compute dot product of line and two perdendicular sides
                of the rectangle and depending on that call some particular
                case of the solver? Or maybe just go with the assumption
                if the line intersects any *two* edges then it goes inside,
                so basically solving the line simultanously against each side.
                there clerely is some optimization that can be done.
                \_ What is the underlying problem?
        \_ Turn each edge of the rectangle into an infinite line,
           and you cut the plane into pieces numbered 1-9.  You can figure
           out the easy case where the target line is exclusively on one
           side of an edge.  The choose an edge and figure out if the
           target line is inside or outside the edge... parametrically it
           amounts to about 4 multiplications and 8 additions, and you can
           improve on that.  Ok, motd god just told me my lock time was up,
           so take 184.
           \_ Try me -t 1200
        \_ Draw on graph paper and see.
        \_ Is it a rectangle or square?  Is it aligned with the coordinate axes
           or not?

8/14    lila can you do the Charleston?
        \_ Hmm, this stalker must have just got out of prison.

8/14    Are you learning/progressing at work?
        no      : ....
        yes     : ..
                \_ yes guy -- what are you learning?
                   \_ Unfortunately, how bad C# is.   --Not first yes guy.

8/13    Is there a correlation between the economy and the amount of junk
        mail I get? It seems like I've been getting more lately.
        \_ More laid-off people resort to pyramid marketing schemes?
        \_ I think junk mail has a tendency to increase exponentially.

8/12    "Mugabe Takes Hard Line on Defiant White Farmers"
        link:csua.org/u/150
        Does Casa Zimbabwe have a communist govt.?
        This sounds like what happened in China in the 50s.
        \_ Readd a little more on mugabe before asking questions like this.
        \_ No, but CZ and Cloyne are strict Pharmatocracies.  If you have the
           supply, you have the power.

8/10    dotcoms fail because they don't have a good business model. I've been
        looking at how timeshares work and I simply can't see a business
        model in it. Suppose you buy a deeded timeshare and you can pass it
        on to your heirs indefinitely. The time share corps get your money at
        first, but in time (50-100 years), wouldn't they lose
        money even if you pay maintenance, which isn't a lot? Is this just
        another from of the pyramid scheme? Isn't it just a matter of time
        before these companies go out of business?
        \_ How do you figure they're losing money?  And timeshares are a
           terrible investment.  Do not put your money in a timeshare.  You're
           better off in the lottery.  At least *some* people make money on the
           lottery.
        \_ wow, you're so smart.  I never would have realized that dotcoms
           have bad business models and that they're going to go out of
           business.  oh, wait, most of them already have.
        \_ you pay a pretty hefty chunk of maintenance on the timeshare,
           they're not going out of business any time soon.  Of course the ones
           who make the real money are the people selling the timeshare.
        \_ That's like saying condo's lose money, it doesn't make any sense.
           Yeah, the builders make all their money up front, then they hand
           over maintenance to the owners, who just recover their costs.
        \_ Some good dotcoms were dragged down by bad ones who sold literally
           toilet paper over the net, etc.
           \_ what's wrong with selling toilet paper over the net?

8/9     Koreans and microwavable dogmeat:
        http://csua.org/u/142
        \_ I'll be sure to eat dogmeat the next time I'm in Korea just
           to piss you people off

8/9     why would anyone want to watch the entire 55 minute porn flick
        "deep throat" all in ascii?  watch for yourself and decide.
        http://www.ljudmila.org/~vuk/ascii/deep.htm
        \_ ASCII + Deep Throat = spirit of the 70s. Don't you get it? DUHHH

8/9     Has anyone else experienced "Can't deliver message for the past 4
        hours" emails when mailing from soda?  I'm not venting, just
        trying to narrow down a problem.
        \_ I've been able to send and receive email as of 11:30am.
           Does it occur with multiple emails?
           \_ One address in particular, but multiple mails.  Thanks for
              your reply.

8/9     Question for Cyrus IMAP users; is Sieve the only thing I can use to
        make things such as 'vacation' works? Cyrus won't recognize .forward
        or .vacation.msg in your homedir. (Pls don't tell me to switch to
        a different IMAP, it's not in my control) Thx!
        \_ Switching generally only applies to pine users.  :-)

8/8     How is decimal 0.10000000000 represented in standard IEEE notation?
        Isn't it impossible using base 2?
        \_ Patterson and Hennesey shall reveal all -chialea
                \_ you're still here?
                   \_ Your stalking fu is weak

8/8     Does anyone know of a decent PDF to text converter?  I'm looking
        for one that will take tables in a PDF document, and output them
        as tab-separated data.
        \_ I've been looking for sortof the same but was told that the idea
           of PDF is so that you can't convert it to the exact format. Granted
           you may cut and paste straight text but tables are just impossible.
           Unless someone know of a util., I'd like to know as well.
           \_ How does google do it ("view as HTML")?  They don't get
              the exact same format most of the time, but it's pretty
              close.  -John

8/6     If archaeologists dig up archived copies of the motd 100 years
        from now, what would they think? I am going to Pebble Beach now.
        \_ It's no different than most anything else on the net where folks
           are given free reign to express themselves and censor others they
           disagree with.
           \_ "free rein," even. sheesh. hypercorrection.
              \_ hypercorrection?  whatever. gosh, you're smart!  should I
                 start "hypercorrecting" your lack of caps and other errors?

8/5     Academic Bias?
        http://www.academia.org

8/5     troll deleted by op due to lack of amusement.

8/4     Why do so many .asf files on gnutella start with "!!_YEEHAA_!!_"?

8/3     You know you love it!
        ===> bin/ed
        [hey that was my /bin/ed compile you deleted!  Bastard! That was
         ED! coming to LIFE for christssake!]

8/3     You know you love it!
        ===> bin/ed

8/3     what is the name of that phenomena where a bunch of people stand
        around knowing something should be done (like help someone who's
        hurt, etc.) but don't do anything, each of them thinking someone
        else will probably just do it?

8/2     Saw on craigslist: http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sys/5000503.html

8/2     Some people should either edit their 401k info at home or keep their
        personal files with safer permissions....
        \_ Where? :-)

8/1     Is http://csua.berkeley.edu/ssh okay?
        \_ ... its working for me right now... ?

7/31    Anyone had anal sex? How hard is it?
        \_ It's pretty easy. Why don't you try it on yourself instead of
           going around editing people's posts?

7/31    How many sodans have anal sex?
        1) .
        2)
        3) .

7/31    Has anyone returned a book to the UCB library and then had them claim
        it wasnt returned? I am 100% certain I returned 2 books in 1998 which
        they are now claiming I didnt return. I'm wondering if they commonly
        lose track of stuff. --psb
        \_ The libraries are run by bored and underpaid freshman.  ok, tnx?
        \_ Happened to me once. I went to the shelves, found the book,
           brought it to the frontdesk and they cleared my record. Even
           confirmed someone had checked it out even after I supposedly
           failed to return it. ONE time they claimed I returned a book
           which I did not. The computer refused to let me renew it.
           \- oh thanks. i was planning to go look for it ... but i was
              concerned if it was misshelved, i wont be able to find it.
              i am sure if i lost it i would have remembered since i
              would have known i would be facing some huge fine and would
              have looked for it pretty hard. --psb
        \_ Always ask for a receipt. Otherwise it's like trying to fight the
           IRS.
           \_ Which libraries give you receipts when you return books?

7/30    Only in Texas: http://csua.org/u/ed

7/31    Going to Defcon?  When are you leaving?  How are you planning to
        get to vegas? -curious
        \_ d00de im g01ng 2 h4ng w1th D hax0r el8!!!!

7/30    apt. for rent:  <DEAD>csua/~bensha/apt.txt<DEAD>

7/30    From the Death-By-Chocolate desk:
        http://just-food.com/news_detail.asp?art=50749&dm=yes&c=1   -John
        \_ Makes one wonder how much weird shit winds up in the product.

7/29    My boss keeps kissing my ass even though I hate him (sometimes even
        openly). He just sent me an e-mail telling me the e-mail I sent out
        this morning was totally awesome. Why could he be doing this?
        \_ hot boss on you action
        \_ maybe you could tell us more like are you male/female, is your boss
           hitting on you, has your boss been reading how-to management books
           lately, how well is the company doing as compared to last year, etc
        \_ Maybe he thinks you'll stop hating him.
        \_ So he can fire you without seeming biased
           \_ Ah, good call.  This could be it.  Or at least to make himself
              feel better about it or rationalize it in some way since you're
              "at-will" in California.  Speaking of which I can't wait to hear
              back from a prospective employer so I can tell my current one to
              shove it up their collective ass.

7/29    I have an idea and I wanna patent it. Has anyone done it? How did
        it go?
        \_ There are two kinds of patents.  The bullshit kind that big corps
           swap with each other that aren't written with the intent of ever
           seriously enforcing them, and the kind that are written to be
           enforced.  The typical slashdot idiot doesn't understand this and
           mistakes the former for the latter.  Ok, off my high horse.  Anyway,
           getting a useful patent that can be enforced requires very expensive
           searches for prior art and very expensive and experienced patent
           lawyers who can write a quality patent that will stand up in court.
           Assuming you've got the $20k or more to do all this, you're still
           not out of the woods because it can easily take *millions* of
           dollars in court costs to go after Generic Big Corp when they steal
           your shit.  If you want to know more post your email and I'll write
           you, but pretty much patents aren't for little people.

07/29   There are currently no plans to reinstate plain text POP and IMAP.
        Use SSL POP and IMAP. -- ajani
        \_ Well, these would work, if stunnel didn't core all the time.
           We are currently looking for a solution that actually works.
           Until then, POP and IMAP may not work. Deal. Volunteers are
           welcome.  -- ajani

7/26    How does one create a VCD?
        \_ http://www.vcdhelp.com

7/26    When is POP going to work?
        \_ just as soon as he gets a JOB
        \_ just as soon as he gets a BLOWJOB
        \_ just as soon as he gets a BLOWJOB
           \_ Not by this tight cunt unless he's some uber genius with
              a great personality.
           \_ Not in this tight job market unless he's some uber genius with
              a great personality.  [editing other people's posts just isn't
              funny.  add your own comments if you're so clever]

7/25    Attack of the Clone was CHEEEEZY!!! I'm so glad I pirated from
        Kazaa. I am not paying a single dime for Lucascrap.
        \_ Uh, so, what's your point? You still saw the movie.
           \_ and risked arrest or fine to do so...  you must really love
              old georgie...
              \_ Give it up. They're never going to actually arrest anyone for
                 download.. Uh. I'll be right back. There's somebody knocking
                 real hard out front.
                 \_ They don't arrest.  They fake your suicide.  Especially
                    if you promote evil technology like gnutella.
                    \_ I seriously doubt most csua'ers will find this amusing.
           \_ And what's *your* point?  He saw it and didn't pay for it and is
              now telling other people (although they probably already saw it)
              not to see it.  What's worse for Lucas than that?
        \_ Sad and pathetic.

7/25    Tomorrow is sysadmin appreciation day
        http://www.sysadminday.com
        Is someone buying beer for the root types who fixed soda?
        \_ Let everyone send an e-card/e-mail to his/her sysadmin.  More
           e-card/e-mail, more net traffic, more data to store, more crashes,
           more work for sysadmin. :-)

7/25    Thank Mikeh (an evil alumnus) for bringing soda back. --evil alumnus

7/25    Was a disk deleted or something?  I'm noticing some little weird stuff
        like "trn" is missing and so is "agrep".
        \_ You are betraying both a lack of clue and the ability to read the
           motd before posting to it. Train harder.
        \_ Both are now installed. --scotsman

07/23   Network upgrade and readdressing occured this morning.
        DNS will catch up.  eventually.  --Jon

7/22    One man's troll is another man's treasure.

7/22    Does anyone know how to get fetchmail to run slocal without using
        a .forward? I've tried --mda "<blah>/slocal -user <me>", but that
        doesn't seem to work.

7/16    Anyone has experience with transaction control in LDAP?  How
        is that generally accomplished programtically, if possible?
        Looking at the log and rollback the transaction manually is not an
        option.

7/16    Great nips but where do they find faces like this?
        http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020711/80/d36pr.html

7/15    anyone know the exact wording of brad pitt's response in Fight Club
        after Ed Norton comes in and asks him "what are we doing tonight?"
        It's something like "tonight we're making soap", but I want it
        verbatim. thanks.
        \_ http://imdb.com says:
           Narrator: What are we doing tonight?
           Tyler Durden: Tonight we make soap. In order to make
                         soap, first we must render fat.

7/14/02  Day = Month * Year
         \_ It's that kind of date management that led to y2k, buddy.
            Someone will get sloppy, and suddenly it's July 14014!

7/14    for that guy who asked 'why not go below 8% body fat', here:
        http://www.shapeup.org/dated/082800.htm
        \_ Thanks.  I will keep that in mind. I'll eat more avocado or
           something to keep my body fat above 8%.  :-)
           \_ Olive oil, nuts, and/or fish, though avocado is probably fine.
        \_ Here's another one:  <DEAD>www.katemoss.net<DEAD>
           \_ What's her body fat?  She seems to have some.
              \_ her body fat percentage is probably high, ironically.
                 she doesn't seem to have much muscle, is more likely the
                 the truth.

7/13    Whoever bought the GF4 MX 440 card: How is it? It's about half the
        price of the GF4 4200 so I was going to go with it (based on
        Tom's Hardware, it seems to be about 25% slower).
        \_ Hello.  I don't really game with it, as it turns out, so
           I'm glad I didn't go with the more expensive board.  I've
           got it working both on Linux and on Windows using two monitors.
           I've got no problem with the 2D performance.  I really should
           fire up Descent3... -PeterM
           \_ I took a leap of faith and just ordered it. thanks.

7/14    So wtf is tonytung doing?
        \_ dunno, someone thank paolo for logging in and fixing stuff.
           (cleaning up var, etc)
        \_ 11M mail spool and growing...
        \_ looks like it's a cronjob running once a minute.

07/12   I added some log files to /etc/newsyslog.conf, shredded a
        bunch of old log files by running newsyslog -Fv a couple of times,
        and removed the 20 biggest files in /var/tmp.  /var is now slightly
        less crowded. Bugs to /dev/null. --Evil Alumnus with Root

7/12    BillG and cronies to buy out the depressed telecom industry.
        Imminnent assimilation of the net predicted.
        http://www.usatoday.com/money/columns/maney.htm
        \_ this link doesn't connect. USAtoday's webpage was hacked
           today; might this have been a hacked page?
           \_ works fine for me.

7/11    Whatever happened to http://autobahn.org and the luzers who werked there?

7/11    how dangerous are turtles?  if one of the bigger ones attacks my
        kayak, will I be able to defend myself with my paddle?
        \_ Turtles are usually harmless.  However, there are a few species
           in genus Terrapene Dinocarnivorus and Clemmus Giganticus which have
           been classified as extremely dangerous.  These species feed on
           large surface-floating objects, such as bull seals--as they are
           at home both in salt- and freshwater environments, individuals
           examples weighing up to 900 pounds have been spotted in a variety
           of North American rivers.  Interestingly enough, they do not attack
           turquoise or pink kayaks;  however, the frequent incidents
           involving humans can often result in death or dismemberment.  In
           ocean environments, these behemoths are even more frequently
           deadly, especially when encountered during a waning moon.  Due to
           their heavily carnivorous diet, the animals' highly flatulent
           expectorations can be of a caustic nature, and thus very harmful
           to human mucus membranes.  -John
           \_ They only attack the Swiss so the OP is probably safe. -ausman
        \_ where are you kayaking? tahiti?
        \_ Okay, I'll bite: the turtles in Hawaii may be different from
           the ones where you are going, but I couldn't even chase them
           while snorkling. Turtles are wary of others. I don't think
           they'll attack you while kayaking.
           \_ that's what I was hoping.  I saw waves heading away from
              my kayak that kind of had to be a turtle which indicated it
              was big enough to knock the boat over, and if it was a snapping
              turtle it could kill me then.  i'm not going to start any
              trouble with a turtle on purpose, and i figured it was afraid
              of me also, but i really really don't want a toombstone that
              says "killed by turtle."
              \_ The snapping turtle bites!--More--
                 You die...--More---
           Donatello, but I think that Raphel and the others will easily
                                       \_ Raphael
        \_ Depends on which one attacks you. You might be able to take
           Donatello, but I think that Raphael and the others will easily
           break your paddle and kick your ass.
           \_ Don was always kind of the wussy boy.
           \_ Make sure you don't wear clothing with the Gnome logo, as
              the turtles might mistake you for a member of the Foot clan.
              Then you would really get your ass kicked. (I don't care if
              you are a member of the Cal Tae Kwon Do team, they are NINJAS!)
           \_ Fuck!  Is the Ninja Turtle generation in college already?!
              \_ C0W4BUNG4 D00D!
        \_ There used to be some really big turtles, but they are all dead
           now, so you should be fine.
        \_ Turtles don't attack people.  People attack turtles.  Stay away
           from the turtles.  They're harmless, endangered and almost totally
           defenseless if you can catch them.
               \_ Except for their NINJA weapons!

7/11    A new bottom is being formed.
        \_ cmlee, you really need to sign your posts, so we know they're
           coming from the anti-analyst.  -tom

7/11    I'm planning my dow-under-5000 party.  Know a good caterer that
        works for cheap?
        \_ By definition, shouldn't it be a potluck?

7/11    It seems that the disk is full. Mail is not going out, nor coming in.
        Can someone fix this?

7/10    Wondering (many years later) - what is the secret life point?

7/10    I'm planning my dow under 5000 party.  Any ideas on a band?

7/10    did nuke-the-motd-all-the-fucking-time guy go on vacation?
        \_ why?  are you going to take over his/her duties?

7/10    Here's a real hottie for ya!
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020710/170/1trxs.html
        \_ Where?
        \_ One-month internship?  How symbolic.
        \_ Family connection at work.  Who says in America it only matters who
           you are, not who your parents are.
                \_ Not people who know Harvard, that's for sure.
        \_ WOof.  Woof.

7/9     RIP Rod Steiger
        \_ can't say i've heard of him, but after googling, i can say i've
           seen only one of his movies: The Specialist. d'oh!
           \_ one out of ~90...

07/08   IP address move (again) on Tue Jul 23. Prepare for downtime, peons!
        --Galen

7/8     Florida stays all executions
        http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/07/08/florida.execution.ap/index.html
        \_ Ah, gotta love the Florida activist court!

7/8     Since WWF matches are fake, the two wrestlers know the results ahead
        of time, right?  How is it decided that who's supposed to win and who's
        supposed to lose?  Thx.   -- FOB
        \_ popularity and storyline.  also...it's WWE.  get the F out.  -uctt
        \_ basically, whatever will keep the fans' interest.
           \_ So it's the WWE, not the two wrestlers or their agents, who
              decices which of the two is going to win?  I see.   -- FOB
        \_ I still can't get over the fact that they did NOT merge
           with Monster Truck Racing.

7/7     Where's http://whois.berkeley.edu and what's its replacement?
        \_ What's its replacement? When?
           \_ Why would it be replaced?
                \_ relevance? -motd relevance god

7/5     Can someone with root fix the /etc/termcap link?
        \_ rather, mv termcap.orig termcap
           \_ or at least cp

7/5     http://www.berkeleyboycott.com

7/3     What's the name of the program that makes big ascii words made up of
        many ascii characters. like for making old-fasioned banners?
        \_ figlet
        \_ banner
        \_ And we have a WINNER!  Banner in first with figlet trailing by a
           full length!