6/28    Are Mongolians suppose to be giants or something and drink raw lamb
        blood? What's the big deal w/ Mongolians?
        \_ Is it true what they say about... er...
           \_ Yep, pretty big feet.

6/28    What are the adverse effects of replacing a circuit breaker with
        one not specifically designed for the breaker box?
        \_ It breaks. :-)
        \_ Go for it.  Fire hazards are FUN!
           \_ No, seriously-- the amperage rating is the same, and it fits
              in perfectly.  What are the specific hazards/pitfalls?
              \_ self-immolation?
              \_ No, seriously, call an electrician.
                 \_ As it turns out, it's largely alright-- home
                    inspectors like to see all the breakers under a single
                    brand, but as long as it's a tight fit the only
                    potential problem is the bus arcing over and causing
                    pitting/corrosion.  That may generate heat, which is
                    bad if your box is surrounded by oily rags and tinder,
                    but in my case this doesn't apply.  All of this came
                    from a licensed electrician.
                    \_ Why not just replace the breaker with the same
                       brand? I don't get it. Are you *that* cheap? --dim
                       \_ why don't you just run windows?
                    \_ is this OP?

6/27    Do any of you swim at Berkeley's West Campus pool?
        \_ any of you use any of Berkeley's sports facility?
                Yes:
                No:  .

6/27    USSC Zelman Ruling on Vouchers
        http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=00-
1751&friend=nytimes

6/27    I want to have a color poster printed up (say 24x36).
        Will somone please recommend a good/cheap place?
        \_ Kinko's is well equipped to do this. Also they're 24 hour.
                \_ how much?
        \_ is it legal to reproduce a professional poster which is usually
           copyrighted?
            \_ I wouldn't care even if that was my intention, which it not.
               i'm doing an original poster -op
               (i would never spend that much dough to buy some dumb ass
                reprint of the original Star Wars poster, or whatever)

6/27    anybody watched "witness to hope" on PBS?  The documentary talked
        about a town built by the communists in poland that had no church.
        After 20 years of lobbying, a church is finally built entirely of
        volunteer labor.  I'm trying to remember the name of the town.
        Yes, I have been searching on google and can't find it.  Thanks.
        \_ The poles are diehard anti-semites.  They deserve no hope.
           \- it was a town called hope.

(-=-= One MOTD, Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for None =-=-)

6/27    Uh oh... someone discovers the hard way that political philosophy is
        not based on the color of one's skin....  I won't use the "R" word. :-)
        http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1023716561709

6/26    the bottom is falling.

6/25    What's a good place to rent a battery powered amp. and
        microphone.  Preferably in Berk. or oakland? -crebbs

6/25    Anyone heard of something KFC uses, called "Animal 57"?
        \_ chicken lips?

6/24    Need help from any engineers here.. see
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~turin/question.html - turin
        \_ mabye it would help if you rephrased the question in
           english?

6/23    What was that url for credit unions in sf/ba?  Thx.

6/21    Filter Klez:
        :0 Bh
        * > 50000
        * ^Content-Type:[        ]*(audio/x-|application)
        * 1^0 ()<i?frame[        ]*src=(3d)?cid:
        * 1^0 ^--[^ ]+$$Content-
        virus
        \_ ifile!

6/19    I met this girl over the phone, we talked for over 3 hours.
        Since then, we've emailed for a few days, but now she's not
        replied to me for almost 48 hours. What should I do?
        Tips? URLs? thanks.
        \_ you have to watch out for those "guys" you meet
           over the phone
        \_ ask her to meet for dinner
        \_ are you sure she isn't out on a vacation or something?
           or talking to her girlfriends wondering what to do?
        \_ chill out.  she'll either get back to you or not.  maybe you were
           too fast and too pushy and desperate sounding.  48 hours?  you're
           in a big panic?  you sound desperate.  relax.
        \_ Are you the same guy who almost moved in w/ a girl you are
           interested in?
        \_ Wow.  48 hours.  she must be fucking someone else.  kill her.  kill
           her now.
           \_ After you fuck her, of course.
        \_ sometimes you lose.  play again?
        \_ Thanks for the replies. She lives in the midwest, me in Bay Area.
           Looking for a URL with more tips. thanks.
           \_ Hm..  makes it difficult to kill her.  you could contract it
              out...
        \_ Do not get emotionally involved with someone you have not met
           in person yet. I would recommend meeting her before things get
           any more serious.
        \_ If you haven't met your cybersweetie in person, it's just
           cyberfatuation.
        \_ I already have a friend and a colleague getting married with
           people they first met cyberly.  So good luck.

6/19    Constitutionally, are all citizen of United States are equal?
        It is obviously not.  Because those who are not born in US
        are not eligible for Presidency.  Besides that, what are other
        right which neutralized citizen are not allowed to have?
                    \_ you mean naturalized?
                       \_ no, neutered.
        Idealy, shouldn't all citizen to be equal?
                                - 2nd class citizen
        \_ you have to speak English to be president.
           \_ No you don't. Listen to Bush for a while...
              \_ Yawn.  No cookie.
           \_ There's a difference between "subliminable" and "Idealy".
              Actually now that I think about it, this post is obviously
              a troll trying to sound like a FOB--the errors aren't
              the kind that a non-English speaker makes.  -tom
              \_ Yeah, it's kind of pathetic.
              \_ I agree.  Pretty much no cookie on the whole thing.

6/19    Ted decides its ok to defend yourself afterall.
        http://sg.news.yahoo.com/020619/1/2znrp.html
        \_ you are dumb.

6/19    Happier before, during, and after sex?
        before: .
        during: .
        after:  .

6/18    In Lilo&Stitch, is Lilo pronounced as Lie-Lo or Lee-Lo?
        \_ commercials say /Lee-Lo/

6/17    Warcraft 3 is kind of underwhelming. Age of Mythology will blow it away.
        \_ Thief.  Dumb, too.  Always playing the "the next game will be so
           kewl!" hype thing.

6/17    Who keeps deleting my thread on brother/sister incest?!  It's a
        serious question.  I don't have any sisters but I'm strangely
        arounsed by brother/sister incest porn.  This is normal?

6/17    Beam me up Scotty:
        http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,4523607%255E15306,00.html
        \_ Billions of innocent photons were heartlessly destroyed in this
           inhumane experiment!  We should all be outraged!

6/17    Apparently around 11:43, someone nuked /etc/motd.lock.  This is
        preventing /etc/motd to be populated with motd.public.  Yell at
        your favorite root person

6/16    support yer local sodan: http://www.wulfram.com (play it)

6/16    The AP libels Egyptian academics.
        http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1023716494436
         \_ what's the libel?

6/15   Tickets for SF Opera _tonight_.  see ~jon/opera.tix  --jon

6/13    Anyone know where i can rent a medium sized UPS, preferably one that
        didn't beep at me when it was unplugged.
        \_ www.cheapupsrentals.ca

        5-10 lbs:       x

        1-5 lbs:        xx

6/13    How many pounds have you gained since you graduated and started
        working:
        \_some of us have lost weight, thank you
          \_ gained 30, then lost 50.
        -20+ lbs:       x
             \_ Wow. Me too. Really. Well, gained 20, lost 50.
        -20+ lbs:       xx
        -10 to -20 lbs:
        0 lbs:          x
        -5 to -10 lbs:  xx
        -1 to -5 lbs:
        0 lbs:          xx

6/11    Goddamn you MOTD! Ever since the winking post, I can't stop winking
        at people in office, men and women...
        \_ With all that winking how do you have time to post here?
           \_ I winked it out using morse code

6/12    Do you need a CSU/DSU for an ISDN line.  If so does Pac Bell supply
        that when they install it?
        \_ yes if its a pri.. no if its a bri.. -shac
        \_ CSU/DSU is something that applies only to T1 lines.  ISDN has
           no such thing.
           \_ if you need anything, it'll be an NT1.

6/11    In the SunOS5 realloc() man page, it says:
        "If size, nelem, or elsize is 0, a unique pointer to the arena is
        returned."  What does that mean?  Thanks.  --- yuen

6/11    I'm ebaying my race car bed. I just want it to go to a good home. I
        made the necessary modifications so that an, uhhh, adult can use it.
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2031404644
        Fuck, I hate having to sell my toys, but maybe someone else will make
        better use of it.       -wllm
        \_ Somebody jus bought my dearest peice of furniture- for a 3-year
           old. Anyways, it's no longer available. ,wllm
           \_ delete your post
        \_ Hey wllm, when are we returning the keg from The Great Logout?
           -dans

6/11    I'm looking for a decent free macro recorder/scripter for windows
        (2000).  You know something where i can record my mouse moves,
        edit it and play it back.  Recommendations?
        \_ Something like silk?
        \_ winrunner

6/10    what's Condorcet ranking used for in practice?

6/9     Serious question: I sometimes email co-workers in Japan. Should
        I append -san to a person's name when addressing them in email?
        I see other people doing that, but I don't know what it means.
        \_ Serious answer, -san I believe is how you address someone politely.
           For example, Noburi-san may mean Mr. Noburi or something, even
           though Noburi may be a first name. It's just a custom there. Note
           that this applies when addressing a male (esp. if he's older than
           you)
           \_ what if they are the head of a lab and have a phd? is
              there an equivalent to "Dr." in common use?
              \_ XX-kyoju is how you address somebody who is a professor. If
                 you are not sure if they are a professor, you can say
                 XX-sensei. -- ulysses
              \_ XX-kyoju is how you address somebody who is a professor. If you
                 are not sure if they are a professor, you can say XX-sensei.
                  -- ulysses
                  \_ so if someone haves the same rank in the field as
                     a professor, but does not teach at a university(head
                     of a lab in industry) can you still use sensei?
                     i thought sensei meant teacher, directly translated.
        \_ Yep, especially if they have an umbrella:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20020609/od_nm/umbrella_dc_1
           \_ Remember, umbrellas don't kill people, people kill people!
        \_ just ask the others why they do it to see if you should too.
        \_ email their hookers. it's classier.
           \_ email them hookers, it's more appreciated.
        \_ Yes.  If you don't, it can be taken as disrespectful.  And you
           should address women with -san too.
           \_ unless you are Kenshin, in which case you must use -dono
        \_ Do they address you the same way?  Address them the same way they
           do you.  Or you could take the When In Rome approach.  You're in
           America.  We don't add -san to emails.
                \_ Yup, it's all about expectations and these woolly samurai
                   don't expect you to pretend you know their culture.

6/9     Is it worth seeing a Woody Allen film (Celebrity) because Bebe Neuwirth
        is in it?  Or should I just try to track down The Paint Job.
        \_ fuck off.
        \_ Tawei is that you?

6/8     Why are the previous two messages dated tomorrow?
        \_ Because they are, roll the bones.
             \_ Translation: "I don't know, but I'm arrogant."
        Does it make a motd message last longer?

6/9     Twin bed for sale, $80.  ~ 1 year old, wood frame, good mattress.
        Originally $300.  Tried to sell it for $180 and some guy nearly
        bought it.  Now I'm in LA and have to dump it. Available in 2 or
        3 weeks.  Mail mjm

6/8     Why are the previous two dates tomorrow?
        Does it make a motd message last longer?

6/7     djpaolo are you a grad student? are you going to be one?

6/7     psb, which grad sk0l you going to?

6/7     a new bottom has been formed!
        \_ heart shaped? round? flat? saggy?  big? small?  -ass man

6/7     paolo, which grad sk0l you going to?
        \_ People are stalking Paolo too now?
           \_ Why not?  He got a CS Dept award for being an outstanding
              CSUA Officer.
        \_ Taking the MCAT again, will not know until get score.

6/7     What's the easiest way to limit bandwidth by user or process?
        \_ altq

6/6     C'mon, don't you want that CoolPen or ink for your Printer?

6/6     Dee Dee RIP

6/6     Presume you guys read this already... but just in case
        http://chickmagnet.org/for_the_ladies
        \_ Don Marti is a dork.

6/5     Does anyone know the name of the female model in those iMotors flash
        ads embedded in Yahoo pages?  She looks hot.  Thanks.
        \_ Chandra Levi.
           \_ You mean "Levy"?
              \_ No, Lev-ey (sp?)

6/5     Is is safe to delete my ~/.cpan/source/ directory without breaking
        anything? I'm running out of disk space.
        \_ as long as you're not building anything right now, you should be
           fine clearing it out.

6/6     Does the campus block morpheus et al?
        \_ No.  -tom
           \_ nor should it.
           \_ How do they stop individual users from using 99% of the
              bandwidth? Do they limit bandwidth per port?
              \_ TCP stops it.  And most of the networks on campus are
                 10-megabit shared ethernet with 150+ hosts, so there's
                 not a lot one host can do anyway.  The aggregate bandwidth
                 issue is the problem, not any single user.  -tom
                 \_ I thought it was the tragedy of the commons?
                    \_ Thats what the Berkeley traffic shaper is for
                    \_ Do you have any idea what the term "tragedy of the
                       commons" means?  -tom

6/5     Are you guys on UTC? (6/6)
        \_ no, we're on THC!

6/5     Is is safe to delete my ~/.cpan/source/ directory without breaking
        anything?

6/4     I'm looking into backup software and hardware, I have 2 Terabytes.
        I haven't found any useful reviews, any comments/useful links?
        \_ damn, that's a lot of porn

6/3     Beware yahoogroups users.  Be sure to modify your "marketing
        preferences" which has a default setting of "yes".  Same with
        http://amazon.com
        \_ Be sure to FORMAT YOUR MOTD POSTS!

6/ 3    Bringing peace to the middle east: cooking jews.
        http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/story.html?in_review_id=604812&in_review_text_id=573768
        \_ these bastards add a bunch of new subscriptions to your account
           sometime after you sign up and make all of the options "yes"
           to receiving their spam. -- joeking
           \_ ifile!

6/3     Child seat kills man.  This child seat thing has gone way overboard.
        I think it's time we finally put an end to it and banned child seats.
        <DEAD>webcenter.newssearch.netscape.com/aolns_display.adp?key=200206042345000143144_aolns.src<DEAD>

6/3     Which mobile phone service has good coverage in Mountain View
        and Palo Alto?
        \_ at&t does at HPL, palo alto
        \_ yermom did last night on Capp St around three before she got
           picked up by the fuzz.
           \_ This is one of the worst "yermom" references I've seen on the
              motd. It makes no contexual sense. You should be ashamed.
              Yermom sure is.

6/3     If I pay Alumni fee can I get <DEAD>cal.alumni.berkeley.edu/~bob<DEAD>
        \_ I dunno..  bob doesn't come cheap... -- bob's pimp
           \_ bob's been known to give freebies to the hot.  Are you hot?
              \_ I expect at least a bottle of wine... -bz
                 \_ we bought you a white zinfandel once!
        \_ I've paid the alumni fee, but I still can't seem to get
           ~<my username>. If someone know how to get this, please
           post on the motd.

6/3     What are you people doing this summer?
        \_ packing.  Rolling. Smoking.
           It's the answer you _want_ to hear right?

6/3     Lame dolphin story deleted. Don't you have anything better to do?
        \_ don't you?

6/3     Is the phrase "in action" (e.g. "seeing my product in action")
        formal, or is it too colloquial?
        \- probably not good to use in something formal.
        \_ very informal.
        \- probably not good to use in something formal. unless it is a
           program on how to learn french while lingering on womens'
           breasts. --psb
           \_ Now you know why you have fans.  --psb #1 Fan
           \_ "Women" is plural, so it would be "women's", right?
        \_ I have never heard of that phrase, unless of course by product, you
           mean my dick.

6/2     what's the net worth of RCC?  any estimate?
        \_ What a stupid question.
        \_ What's RCC?
        \_ retired cuckold carpetmuncher.

5/28    How does Amazon copyright/patent the stupid 1-Click ordering? I
        thought GUIs are not patentable.

5/28    for whomever it was who can't wait for the dildo's own website,
        i do have some pictures of myself with it on mine.  and i'm still
        accepting name suggestions.  and no i'm not going to take it for
        a joyride to find out its true name.  it's, um, really big.  -lila
        \_ To curb disappointment, the pictures aren't actually as
           exciting as "pictures of myself with [my dildo]" might imply.

5/28    How was the logout?

5/28    regarding slit infinitives:  In writing, it is better not to split
        infinitives.  In speech, do whatever the fuck you want.  Once you
        master the rule, in writing, feel free to do whatever your writer's
        heart wants.  However, most beginner writers don't know the rule to
        begin with: that splitting infinitives is poor writing style,
        rather than any hard or fast grammar rule.

5/28    Who nuked the motd?

5/28    What's the diff. between V.90 and V.92 for 56K modems?
        Is it worth $1.50 for a V.92 (ceteris peribus).
                                              \- [sic] -> "paribus"
                                                 --Arbiter Eleganitae
                                                 \_ Hi arbiter psbae!
        \_ Ya, it's worth it. You can get notified of caller ID while you're
           online and decide whether or not to take the call.

5/28    Is anyone else is getting spammed from address axis-of-evil@gwbush.com?
        \_ no

5/28    Why can't I check out Haas students on <DEAD>cal.berkeley.edu<DEAD>?
        \_ because they're out of your league.

5/28    please help me name my Big Black Dildo!  i've decided that
        "Big Black" just isn't personalized enough, and it needs a
        real name before i dress it up in cute doll clothes and give
        it its own webpage.  what should i call it?    -lila

5/27    so what's the final word on splitting infinitives. is it still
        not considered gramatically correct, or is that just an
        antiquated rule?
        \_ Go ahead and split your infinitives if you think it makes the
           sentence sound better. There is no longer any rule against it,
           though given a choice, it is better to avoid doing that.
           \_ It doesn't gain anything stylistically, and it's really NOT
              THAT HARD.  If it "sounds wrong," it's because your ear is
              trained "wrong".  I'm all for the democratic spirit, but
              without a standard of language democracy is impossible.
               \_ go back to france, you useless fucking snob.
                  \_ I concur.
           \_ no longer any rule against it?  source?
              \_ "...to boldly go where no man has gone before..."
                 \_ nice.
                    \_ Yes, I use Star Trek as my guide to English grammar.
                       \_ "I spell nife with an 'n'"
                          \_ "I love *you* but I *don't* love *you*"
                             "But we are the same in all ways"
                             "But we are the same in all ways"
              \_ http://public.logica.com/~stepneys/cyc/s/split.htm
                 http://www.princeton.edu/~jmkelly/split_infin.html
                 \- hello, is there a different meaning between "the potato
                    was not peeled, and the carrot was" and "the potato was
                    unpeeled, and the carrot was"? pls dont tell me how to
                    state either "state" more clearly ... I'm asking do those
                    two statements respresent the same or different states
                    of the world. ok tnx. --psb
                    \_ no.
                    \_ they're different.  the latter says both the potato and
                       carrot are unpeeled.
                        \_ no, actually the former says that.
                           \_ okay, I suppose that the first form COULD be
                              be interpreted either way, but how can the
                              second form be interpreted as the carrot being
                              peeled?
                              \_ look, I already answered when I simply said,
                                 "no" and then you pedants have to get all
                                 pedantic about it.  stop now.

5/28    Any good cellular phone service providers in the south bay?

5/25    Logout -  Party RIGHT NOW at 1512 Walnut Street - details at:
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~phillip/logout
        School's out.  Live a little.
        \_ school was out years ago, and i'm not buying a two thousand
           dollar plane ticket to go to our silly party.

5/25    Who/What determines who gets the departmental citation?
        \_ Brownest lips.

5/25    snip.

5/25    We need to kick out maxine waters and get James Traficant out here.
        \_ Out where?  Maxine Waters is no where near me.  -- Barbara Lee
           supporter and proud.
           \_ Or Barbara Lee.  She's another good option for a boot to the
              head.  I used to think Feinstein needed to go too until she
              started voting intelligently.

5/24    how do I change my passphrases in tripwire?

5/24    They came by air, now they will come by *sea*--see the second half
        of this article:
        http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20020524/D7JN51I80.html
        \_ I hope we get a new wave of creature feature films out of all this
           hysteria.. (IT CAME FROM THE OIL TANKER!)
        \_ Don't you think that much of this uncorroborated information is
           specifically designed to instill unnecessary fear and terror?

5/23    So how was/is the party?
        \_ Um it's on the 25th.  Go.  See for yourself.

5/24    rest in peace, Stephen Jay Gould.  (Wow, I only found out about this
        today.  And if it matters, I really thought he was fun to read)

5/23    An exchange student friend of mine is coming over from Japan,
        and is looking for housing from July 1 - August 18.  He's male,
        24, and a grad student.  If anyone's got a room to sublet, or
        anything like that, drop me a line.  -dlwhite

5/22    Take away from the network discussion:
        <DEAD>www.forbes.com/asap/2001/0910/061.html<DEAD>
        \_ I dont appreciate you deleting everyone else's posts to this thread
           and only keeping the URL I posted of my prof's article.
           \_ The thread was sooper long, totally exhausted and boring.  it
              was all posted to alt.motd anyway.
           \_ Here's a quick summary:
              tom -> problem has no technical soln. because people are
                     greedy sob's whose only interest is in taking as
                     much for themselves as possible and thereby ruining
                     to the rest of humanity.
              others -> Let's try bw caps, traf. shaping and caching
                \_ Hey don't forget to use the magic phrase, "tragedy of the
                   commons"!  Once you say *that* you've said it all, baby!
                   I wish I'd used that phrase when I was in school.  I just
                   know that was the extra pow! my papers needed for straight
                   A+ work!  Sigh, I suppose that too is a tragedy of the
                   commons.... (hah!)
                \_ When I was in school the teachers really liked it if
                        you mentioned Alexis de Tocqueville. It was definitely
                        worth a A- if you mentioned de Tocqueville even
                        if every thing else about it sucked. -cynthia
                        \_ High School or College? Were you a Social Science
                           Field Major?

5/22    My co is looking to buy a 120-180GB dedicated storage unit. We are
        comparing a recently released Iomega box (NAS p400) with a Quantum
        Snapserver 4100. We would be using the box as a RAID5 device. I was
        about to recommend the Iomega unit but I'm curious if anybody has
        opinions to share.
        \_ how much are you looking to spend? most of these cheap ass low
           end boxes wedge pretty bad under moderate i/o load -shac
           \_ I get about $2200 to play with. Tops.

05/22   Systems will be down 8-5 on Tue June 11 for air conditioner
        downtime.

5/21    RIP Stephen Jay Gould
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020521/ap_on_re_us/obit_gould_21
        \_ that was yesterday. and that makes #8.

5/21    When I type last or who, it usually gives the IP address from where
        you're coming from but w uses the style that resolves more addrs. Why?
        \- who,last,w | ip2hostname --psb

5/21    A CL good bye to Mojo: http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/mis/3969278.html
        \_ Who's mojo?
        \_ "pray for mojo"

5/21    Who killed the scifi thread. Anyway my recs are James Morrow and
        Jonathan Lethem for "new" school and Lem/Dick for old school.
                                             \_ Stanislav Lem rocks!

5/21    "Transvestite Ancient Roman Unearthed in Britain"
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20020521/od_nm/roman_dc_1

5/20    What is an effective way of representing data in a timing diagram?
        specific information that needs to be included is: what signal
        it is, when it goes on, how long it is on for. Is it better to
        record, at every possible timestep, what signal is on/off; or is
        it better to represent it as, for a given signal, the time the
        pulse go on and then how long they last? (the pulses do not all
        stay on for the same time).
        \_ That's really vague. What kind of data? Usually it's shown
           relative to the clocks that drive the data.
                \_ sorry. the clock isn't really relevant since this
                   sequence can start at any time. specifically, I
                   need to somehow store how I want ~50 signals to
                   go off (in terms of duration and when the pulses
                   begins. what I'm looking for is an efficient way
                   of storing this information. that information
                   will later be used to actually drive those 50
                   different signals (which are just pulses).
        \_ "better" is a funny word.  What constraints do you have?  If you
           store the state for each tick you'll use more space.  If you need
           to check against 50 different signal data points each tick you'll
           use more time and probably have more complex code.

5/20    http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/story.php?article_id=23658&layout=printer
        'Take Your Humanities Buddy To School Day' a success at Duke

5/20    need command line link checker. recommendations?
        \_ checkbot

5/20    welcome tohell, mr gould!
        \_ That's Professor Gould, Morningstar.
        \_ so you didn't agree with his views on evolution?

5/19    Anybody know the term for a priest's collar? Isn't there a special
        term for this? I seem to remember hearing this before but can't
        think of it... (and I tried google'ing to no avail)
        \_ Closest I can find is "Roman collar".  Supposedly there is an
           "Anglican" version as well.  --bishop
            \_ argh... I'm quite sure there is a different term.
        \_ 4 years of Catholic high school, and too many years in my parents'
           Lutheran church, all I ever heard it called was a collar.
        \_ Roman Collar sounds like the best bet.
                \_ Main Entry: clerical collar
                   Date: 1948
                   : a narrow stiffly upright white collar worn buttoned at
                     the back of the neck by members of the clergy
        \_ it's a vestibule you STUPID FUCK.
                \_ 2 a : a passage, hall, or room between the outer door and
                        the interior of a building : LOBBY b : an enclosed
                        entrance at the end of a railway passenger car

5/17    Rush tour.  If anyone interested in seeing them mail oso@ocf

5/18    My company is on a very fast network but they've blocked access to
        Kazaa and Morpheus.  What can I do?  I want to download the DVD rips.
        Is there a way to run a proxy of some sort?  Thanks.
        \_ do you have another job lined up?
        \_ look in tmp?
           \_ how does that help?
              \_ I think he means /csua/tmp
        \_ do you dial those 900 phone sex numbers at work too?

5/17    What spyware-free open-source gnutella client are the
        elite folk using these days?
        \_ gnucleus
           http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucleus   :)
        \_ i been using kazaa lite.  you can get src for it if you look.

5/17    Would someone please explaine how a set can be both open and closed
        at the same time?  --PeterM
                \_ Being clopen is rare in Euclidean space with the usual
                   metric. The only clopen sets are the entire space
                   and the empty sets. However, when you endow the space
                   with some other topology, the you can get many clopen
                   sets . For example, the discrete topology implies that
                  *every* set is clopen. The key point is that open
                   and closed sets are not opposites, but simply classes
                   of sets with different definitions. Closed essentially
                   means "limits of sequences of points are in the set"
                   and open means "every point has a little fuzzy neigborhood"
                   around it. If you think of it that way, it's not too hard
                   to believe that under some topologies you can "trick"
                   a set into being open and closed at the same time. fab
        \_ open and closed seem like oposites most of the time, but their not.
           The only good example I can think of this is the whole line
      (-infty,infty) - has all of its limit points and yet still every point
      is in a neighborhood which is in the set.  'course that implies that
      the nought set is open and closed as well.  There are more funky
      examples when your universe isn't R.
           (-infty,infty) - has all of its limit points and yet still every
           point is in a neighborhood which is in the set.  'course that
           implies that the nought set is open and closed as well.  There are
           more funky examples when your universe isn't R.
           \_ You can usually find good examples of unintuitive results by
              considering a discrete metric space (i.e. a set of points
              with the metric d(a,b) = 0 if a = b and 1 otherwise).  In this
              space every set of points is closed because any convergant
              sequence of points in the set converges to a limit point in
              the set and open because an epsilon-ball centered on point X
              in the set only contains points in the set (in fact the
              epsilon ball only contains X). -emin
        \_ Both of the above posts are right. Keep in mind that "closed" is
           often defined as "complement of an open set", and what sets are
           open is part of the definition of the topological structure of
           the space (which has to obey certain axioms).

5/17    http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=50323
        Now YOU can be the suicide bomber

05/17   End of Semester PARTY! The Great Logout:
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~phillip/logout

5/17    I'm trying to get rid of two 21" monitor shipping crates. The nice
        anvil sytle containers that people use at strade shows. If you
        have need of one of these, let me know. You can have them
        for free.  -payam
        http://www.mirrashidi.com/itemsforsale/pic/image014.jpg
        \_ Do they come with 21" monitors?

5/17    Can I use hair gel in place of KY Jelly?  Any adverse effect?  Thx.
        \_ Um, for what purposes???  And whatever your answer is, I would
           HIGHLY doubt it.
           \_ For male masturbation.  It's less obvious to have hair gel than
              KY Jelly in the house.
                \_ Well you could, but isn't hair gel more expensive?
                   \_ Maybe, but I don't need to hide it.
                      \_ Why don't you try it and let us know how it goes.
                      \_ How about vaseline?  Don't need to hide it, will
                         help with the chaffing, and still the best skin
                         moisturizer!
                         \_ But vaseline can't be wash off as easily.
        \_ Can I use KY Jelly in place of hair gel?
           \_ Go for it!

5/17    Anyone attend convocation to hear Johnny Mosely give his talk?
        Did he sound completely idiotic and out of place? I missed it.

5/17    Can someone post the "boycott Lucas" chain mail here? I just need
        it on motd for an hour, I'll get it then delete it, thanks.
        \_ I haven't seen the chain mail, but is this close?
           http://intermonkey.com/starwars
        \_ Sign your post.

5/18    What's a bikeshed?  Where does the word come from?
        \_ there is no such thing and you are too stupid to live.

5/17    psb, we're waiting on your eps2 review...
           \- ~psb/When_Clones_Attack ... my padwan learners.
              spoliers are sort of fwd declared but dont read it till after
              you see the movie if you really want to go in with "zero-
              knowledge". --obi-won-psb
                \_ just tell me, do the Neimodians (short, slanty eyed
                   creatures with broken English) still look like Asians?
                   \- you mean the Chinese Mandarins ... of the trade fed?
                      still there.
                   \_ look like?  the awful accents were more annoying.
                \_ don't tell me you're offended?
                   \_ I liked it when the American accents were beating
                      up on those Evil English accents.
            \_ okay, I won't tell you.

5/16    Does anyone know of a cell/PCS phone co. that has a plan that bills
        by the minute rather than in blocks of time/month? -- ulysses
        \_ they all do that, once you go past a certain number of minutes.
           oh, you wanted a plan that charges reasonable rates per minute?
           you fool!
           \_ The rates don't have to be that reasonable. It's just that my gf's
              grant won't reimburse for a monthly flat am't but will reimburse
              for by-minute charges. It's a UC bureaucracy thing.

5/15    the writing is on the wall.

5/16    Yet another MOTD Poll.  Episode II:
        Sucked ass:
        Sucked goat ass: .

5/15    After 3 whole days of research (yes I'm laid off), I found her name!
        HELEN KANE, she's the one who looks like Lila Patton. Check it
        out! http://www.heptune.com/betty.html
        \_ and... no.
        \_ so no wonder got laid off
           \_ who got laid off?
              \_ who got laid?
              \- werent kane@sloda and lilap@soda trafficking together?
                                       \_ who?
                                          \_ Once upon a time, there were
                                             two lila's around, so people
                                             had their choice:  Lila P or Lila
                                             T.  Now, alas, Lila T has faded
                                             from the rich world of sodaland,
                                             so now everyone has to pile on
                                             Lila P.  Make sure you're insured.
                                             \_ Point: missed.  Thank you
                                                for playing.

5/15    what is the prefered capitalization scheme for the title of a
        viewgraph?  should each word be capitalized or just the first word
        of the title?

5/14    [epII spoilers deleted]
        \_ thank you.  I have no intention of seeing it, but you never know.
        \_ wuss...
        \_ as if there are still people on the planet who haven't
           seen it yet
           \_ I haven't.
           \_ [lame responses deleted]

5/14    Yoda Cool Pretty is
        \_ how does a short guy with a cane, fly around whooping Dooku's
           ass that easily?
           \_ Well, he doesn't actually whoop his ass.

5/14    The (12,8) FEC hamming code has the following 4 correcting bits:
        P1 = sum(D1,D2,D4,D5,D7) mod 2
        P2 = sum(D1,D2,D6,D7) mod 2
        P3 = sum(D2,D3,D4,D8) mod 2
        P4 = sum(D5,D6,D7,D8) mod 2.
        How does one derive that?

5/13    http://download.theforce.net/theater/gangsta/starwarz.html

5/14    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ha_ri_su
        SRS Video In 5 Parts
        \_ Damn, "she"'s so cute.

5/14    where's a good place to get action in fremont?
        \_ HAHAHHAHAHHHH!...  oy...  fremont and action in the same sentence...
        \_ are you stalking geordan too? maybe we could get together at the
           hub. --geordan stalker #23
           \_ I don't know what bothers me more, the looking for action
              in Fremont bit or... no, it's definitely the looking for
              action in Fremont part. -geordan
        \_ Go to McDonalds near Newpark Mall during lunch hour.  Lots of high
           school kids and grandparents.

5/13    Isn't there a strong resemblence between Lila Patton and that 1920
        b/w movie star?
        \_ I hope you're not talking about Louise Brooks?
        \_ black and white porno?
          \_ Your mind works in strange ways...

5/12    I need to find annual membership numbers for ACM from beginning until
        now. Any one know where I can find this? Email fab.
        \_ you try http://acm.org or e-mailings someone there?
                \_ Yeah, I did - and phone calls. Basically, I get
                   office dinks, not somebody who knows something.
                   I'm hoping somebody here might know who to call, or
                   can point me to a reference source. fab

5/13    hi, does anyone know where man "superman" leung is nowadays?

5/11    My uplink is about 12KB/s, but when I'm using Morpheus, the rate
        is not as fast. Is that a result of AT&T limiting uplink on certain
        ports (Morpheus ports)?
        \_ how slow do you go? Have you tried other gnutella clients?
           \_ you're lame.

5/11    New CS grads, what are your plans?
        \_ join the unemployment crowd to cool down the economy
           \_ thanks! -economy
        \_ move to NYC. if anyone has any advice or leads, mail me.  - rory
              \_ if i meet you in a dark alley i'm going to beat the shit
                 out of you.
        \_ stalk chialea, alexf, and twohey
           \_ which one of these is not like the other.
        \_ move to NYC
           \_ just came back from there... need any info?
              \_ hi aspo.
              \_ definately! I am passing on a couple offers here, but have
                 none out there, and have quite a bit of anxiety about
                 the whole situation. any info/advice would be much
                 appreciated.                           - rory
                 \_ do you know how to deal drugs?
                    \_ do you have a hook-up in NYC?
        \_ get a jobin india
           \_ are you serious? what type of job? where?
              \_ being an oppressive capitalist fuck.
        \_ kill PhD candidates, move up on the waiting list, wait.
           \_ this isn't connected to the stalkng, is it? -chialea
              \_ it's connected to your breasts.
           \_ you forgot "repeat if necessary"
           \_ Publish or perish, indeed. -geordan
        \_ working for NSA (off to the east coast)
                \_ where on the east coast?
        \_ Togo's in Santa Clara pays $8/hour plus free food
           \_ hope you have a good gpa (spoke with subway, that's all they
              wanted to know)
        \- still looking for a job. maybe aerospace. they are hiring at least.
           \_ hope you have a good gpa (spoke with raytheon, that's all they
              wanted to know)

5/10    Looking for basic Swing/Big Apple routines on the web. URL?

5/10    "Tech researcher Gartner recently forecast that by December more than
        80 percent of multinationals will use IT outsourcing to save money,
        overcome skills shortages or increase flexibility.

        Without a doubt, much of that work is headed to India."
        \_ http://asia.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/05/10/india.telecoms.reut/index.html
        \_ Americans are fat, lazy, and stupid.
           \_ Agreed.  I came to this country 13 years ago.  While I haven't
              gotten any fatter, I sure have become lazier and more stupid than
              before.
        \_ Uh, dude this the Gartner group.  They'll make a study that says
           anything if you pay them $$.

5/10    Johnny Mosely is speaking at graduation? I feel so sorry for this
        year's graduating class.
        \_ Who the fuck is Johnny Mosely?
                \_ Exactly.
                \_ a skier. 4th place finisher this year in Salt Lake.
                   \_ They couldn't even get a medaller..
                      \_ Or is that "medalee"
                \_ The guy is our age and actually kinda funny
                   (I saw him on SNL and Weakest Link), but not the
                   most motivational/inspirational of people.
                \_ Excellent choice for the times. He can go up there
                   and show how they wasted time on college so they
                   can be unemployed this summer while John is a millionaire
                   \_ Dude you are *not* getting a Dell with a bad attitude
                      like that!
        \_ Dude, you're getting a diploma!

5/9     "MSN Messenger Vulnerable to Hackers"
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020509/ap_on_hi_te/msn_messenger_flaw_6
        Yawn.  How come I'm not surprised?
        \_ At least M$ products are always consistent on security issues.
           \_ We use MS for everything at work because we like the security
              consistency.

5/8     Wednesday, May 8

5/8     How do you find out which profs are on the admission comittee?
        \_ You ask. Aiken is perennially the chair. Trevisan was on this
           year's, but that means he's unlikely to be on it next year. Don't
           know about the others.
        \_ want to know which asses you need to kiss? is felching now an entry
           requirement?
                \_ only when entering yermom

5/8     On http://web.syr.edu/~rrosenqu/ecc/cyclic.htm it says
        x15+1 = (1+x)(1+x+x2)(1 + x + x2 + x3 + x4)(1 + x + x4)(1 + x3 + x4)
        How does one factor that?
        \_ You pull out all the x's and divide them out.  Yeah.
        \_ Note that they are working over Z/2 [x], not Z[x]
           (clearly the factorization is not correct in Z[x])
           So x^15+1=x^15-1 which is easier to factor: you get the first
           4 terms fairly easily by using the fact the fact that
           x^a-1=(x-1)(x^(a-1) + x^(a-2) + .... + x + 1)
                \_ my problem with this is that after a while I get nothing
                   but (x-1) terms around and none compute the term
                   (1+x+x2)(1 + x + x2 + x3 + x4)(1 + x + x4)(1 + x3 + x4)
                   \_ yes.

5/8     Trimmed by age.

5/8     I didn't make it to CMU and I'm really sad. I REALLY want to live in
        Pittsburg for personal reasons. Are there hi-tech companies there?
                      \_ Hi chialea #1 fan! -chialea #1 fan #1 fan
        \_ you would think that an area with CMU would have high tech
           companies over there.
           \_ They didn't tell you?  Tech died a year ago.
        \_ I saw some down by one of the rivers, but I don't know what's
           over there exactly, sorry. -chialea
           \_ Maybe you have a spare bedroom or couch space for your stalkers?

5/8     the motd is longer than 1 page and still has non-biking/linux stuff
        on it.  where's tom?

5/7     I never thought motd would degenerate faster than wall...
        \_ Who says it has?
           \_ yermom
           \_ who says it hasn't
                \_ the op, idiot.

5/4 foo

5/6     I'm 9 years outa school and I need to know how to figure out the
        transpose of a matrix. I no longer have that Boyce/Diprima book.
        Help.
        \_ Isn't the transpose just rotated 90 degrees?
         \_ twinks: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Transpose.html
            \_ yes.  in school or out.  this is *the* site.
         \_ no, it's a mirror image along the diagonal.  sigh.  kids these
            days.
        \_ for matrix A of entry a_ij of size mxn, transpose of A, lets
           say has size nxm of entry b_ij = a_ji

5/4     HS Cheerleaders stripped.
        http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/05/cheerleading.champions.ap/index.html
        \_ that's false advertising.  You bastard!
           \_ Isn't it sad knowing you will always be left unsatisfied by
              cheerleaders?
           \_ *laugh*  The motd headline is accurate and true.  ;-)

5/4     So second-level domains under .us (i.e. foo.us) are now available to
        the general populace? Has anyone gotten one? Any comments? Any
        recommendations on good/reliable/ethical registrars? TIA. -alexf
        \_ I picked up fuck.us the other day.  Visit anytime!  Join now!
           First month free with CC and access to the hottest girls on the net!

5/5     Anyone use bugrat?  What do you think?

5/5     Any comments on SuperDLT tape drives? Good or bad?

5/5     http://ug.hooters.dk:8080/image/0bda5a3c/Nadinewhitetop.jpg
        \_ Firstrate candidate for reduction surgery.

5/05    Bugzilla or Bugrat?

Between 1950 and 1952, a bored weatherman, stationed north of Hudson
Bay, left a monument that neither government nor time can eradicate.
Using a bulldozer abandoned by the Air Force, he spent two years and
great effort pushing boulders into a single word.

It can be seen from 10,000 feet, silhouetted against the snow.
Government officials exchanged memos full of circumlocutions (no Latin
equivalent exists) but failed to word an appropriation bill for the
destruction of this cairn, that wouldn't alert the press and embarrass
both Parliament and Party.

It stands today, a monument to human spirit.  If life exists on other
planets, this may be the first message received from us.
                -- The Realist, November, 1964.
        \_ Does anyone know of a backup source for this?  Where did it
           originate?

5/4     Has anyone used the virtual credit number feature from citibank or
        the like?  Is it useful or convenient?
        \_ what are you talking about? Are you referring to products like
           C2IT and Amex Private Payments?
        \_ useful to keep cc# off the net, but it's not particular
           convenient to generate another number each time

5/4     If Gore made the cover of Time:
        http://homepage.mac.com/cbauer/graphics/Time17.jpg

5/3     God's FAQ:
        http://www.godsfaq.com
        \_ This guy is pushing straightforward reincarnation.  That's silly.
           He sounds suspiciously like a liberal too, talking about
           'social ills.'

5/4     Cambodian court releases accused crematorium cannibals
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020504/wl_asia_nm/asia_103374_1

5/3     Poll: The mailbox bomber is:
        from the middle east: .
        from the middle west: ..
        from the US:    ...
        Freeper: .
        \_ do you mean new jersy or pensylvania?
        from the middle west: ..
        from the US:    ...
        Freeper: .
        \_ Oh my God!  I can't believe you're trying to profile this person!
           You racist!

5/3     Contrary to popular belief, getting your news from Rush Limbaugh
        does not make you "informed"
        \_ Who's Rush Limbaugh?