3/18    Can someone remind me what is required to prevent programs like
        less, for example, from sending their output to a "separate" screen
        that gets erased when the program is killed, as opposed to just on
        the normal stdout terminal like, for example, ls? Thanks.
        \_ you must not have taken e190 yet.
           \_ ugh... typos corrected. I assume that's what you were talking
              about?  ...and by the way, I'm L&S CS.
              \_ You passed Subject A?
                 \_ I passed out of it with my awesome AP English score.
                    boo-ya, bee-otch.
                    \_ Clearly the difficulty of the AP exam has declined in
                       recent years, "boo-ya, bee-otch".
                       \_ I took it in '96, biznatch. boo-fuckin-ya.
                          \_ Like I said.  "... in recent years".  Anything
                             from after the time they changed all the tests and
                             dumbed everything down so you could still get a
                             high score to preserve your precious self-esteem
                             without taking a double dose of prozac doesn't
                             count as a serious academic success.
                             \_ I was joking and you're a complete dweeb.
        \_ Your best bet is less -X, although YMMV depending on your terminal's
           termcap entry's quirks. -alexf
        \_ if you use xterm, add this to your Xdefaults or wherever you
           incant X resources: XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit:  true
           \_ It's all black cats and cast iron pots at midnight under a full
              moon.

3/18    I'm looking for research done on symmetric multiprocessing.
        Particularly as it applies to networking.  Anybody know if anything
                                      \_ Bingo!
        has been done in this area?  Thanks.
        \_ why smp?  is there some particular characteristic of networking
           that makes smp more applicable than say asymmetric mp or some
           kind of message passing distributed processing?  or did you just
           slap two buzz words together randomly?
           \_ I vote for random buzzword slapping.  Possibly for a report to
              some PHB.
        \_ does the OP mean symmetric multithreading (smt)?

3/17    Napkins at Togo's read:  "Congratulations Victor Nunez, 2001
        sandwich making champ!"  Any relation to Philip Edward?
        \_ cousins.
        \_ Trying to cozy up to get more 'special sauce' in your togos?

3/16    Own a gun? Then don't try to buy a Dell:
        http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/174830.html

3/16    Chialea, where are you going next semester?
        \_ to bed, with yermom
        \_ just to make you feel better, I didn't make it to any of the top
           schools. Last week was horrible, 3 rejection letters in 2 days.
           \_ "I" who?
                \_ Duh.

3/15    Rule against us and windows is history:
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33198-2002Mar3.html
        \_ Don't do us any favors, microsoft.

3/15    Is there some way to get into JavaOne for free by being a volunteer?
        \_ Its not hard to get into JavaOne for free with a little
           "social engineering". Security wasn't too tight last year.
        \_ If you work for a company exhibiting then the answer is yes.

3/15    i hereby retract my insult to newark.  they finally accepted
        my returned parts.

3/14    What is this I hear of a alumni block? If the alumni accounts
        are going to get turned off, can we get some warning in order
        move our files and send out email addr changes?
        \_ the motd will suck ass without our brilliant and witty
           cynicism.
        \_ where'd you hear this?
           \_ on the motd, just now.
              \_ and you took it seriously?  I think ur acct deserves
                 to be off.
                 \_ My account is turned off.  Why isn't yours?  Maybe you're
                    next.

3/14    Hey, Isreali apologists, what do you think of their targeting
        hospitals and ambulances, including the Red Cross?
        \_ what other targets hve they?

3/13    man cal

3/13    I'm writing a program called diff_tex which takes 2 tex files,
        OLD and NEW, and produces a version of NEW with changes
        highlighted in some manner.  At first I tried putting
        \begin{bf} and \end{bf} enclosing lines where changes had
        occured but this can cause problems inside equation, align,
        or tabbing environments.  Does anyone know of a way to highlight
        something (bold, italics, red, whatever) such that it will work
        in most latex environments?  Thanks. -emin
           \- i am not sure what you are setting out to accomplish but i am
              not sure it is feasible. i mean tex can be a full blown
              language and just looking at text diff probably wont cut it.
              e.g. if macro are redefined etc. --psb
        \_ put boxes around it?
           \_ Do you mean with \fbox?  The \fbox command seems even less
              robust than other things like \begin{bf} ... \end{bf}.
              Are there tricks for making \fbox robust?  Thanks. -emin
        \_ I think green boxes with reddish brown flowers on a bed of darker
           green grass or maybe clovers....
           \_ We started out with boxes but they're too much work. We've settled
              on good old fashioned, herbicide-sucking turf.
           \_ We started out with boxes but they're too much work. We've
              settled on good old fashioned, herbicide-sucking turf.
              \_ Maybe a nice red brick pathway lined by dasies would put the
                 right touch to it.
                 \_ Hmmm. That's not a bad idea. We'll just have be careful not
                    to mow the flowers when we mow the lawn.  Maybe putting in a
                    wire border high enough to stop the fender...
                    \_ Well the flowers go "back" a bit from the edge so it'll
                       be hard to mow the flowers by mistake.  You only need
                       about 6 inches of clearance between the edge and the
                       plants.  Good luck with it!  Post pics when you're done.
              \_ I don't know any tricks for \fbox.  What if you just
                 delimited all changes with special characters?
                 e.g. ***** something that was changed ******

3/13    Post 9/11: Are there still bomb threats at Berkeley?  Evans Hall?
        \_ Hopefully.

3/13    "SPECIAL OFFER:  For a limited time only, you will receive a FREE
        personal brass hookah with the Ultimate Herbaceous Intro Offer as our
        gift to you.  This hookah has a retail value of $25.00."
        I'm *sooo* glad that domain ownership records are public.  Sure this
        got pre-filtered into my crap folder but really....

3/12    Restored.  Why do people bother?

3/12    is there something can be done with the following?  Obviously it's
        an hoax/fraud.  Is it important enuf for the FBI to follow?
        \_ Don't we have enough spams and scams already?  Do you have to put
           that on the motd?  Get a life.
           \_ see you freak'n asshole, people wants to read it.  YOU should
              go get a life instead of sitting there editing other's mesg.
              why are you so fuck'n anal you dumb shit! =D
           \_ am i really really dumb, or did the above poster not post
              anything?
              \_ it was edited
                \_ then un-edit it. i want to read it.
                 \_ it was just the nigerian scam with a minor twist
                    \_ is that the thing where someone says they need to
                       sneak something like $50M into the country? ...or
                       am I thinking of another spam/scam.
                       \_ Yeah it was something like that.

3/11    restored, as usual.

3/11    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8927-2002Mar11.html
        Walk like an Egyptian!

3/11    does anyone get this riddle, I don't. "what grows up while growing
        down?"
        answer: a goose.
        \_ This took me a while.  "down" is a term for feathers of a young
           bird.  --PeterM
           \_ I thought maybe the op was trolling, badly...
           \_ oh that kind of down. thanks. and no trolling here. -op
        \_ "A tree," also seems to work since the roots grow downwards,
           but I think your answer is better. -emin
           \_ What was the answer to te "what is wrong with this picture"
              puzzle the other day in the MOTD?  The picture with the table
              and chair with the screaming face?
              \_ nothing wrong with the picture. the gag is that you're
                 looking so intently for a flaw that doesn't exist that
                 the screaming face scares the living shit out of you.

3/11    http://people.debian.org/~branden/official_motto.jpg

3/9     To the person who asked about a remote for locating glasses and
        keys etc. This months sharper image has a product you might be
        interested in on pg 13 or 14.
        \_ I want something like this for my cell phone.
           \_ I'm guessing you want this if you have your cell phone off
                and you can't locate it.

3/7     Tanya & Paula boxing photo.  Because this is motd quality news.
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020307/168/185qk.html

3/7     is there a way to get what's posted to http://ucb.org.csua sent to my inbox?
        \_ subscribe to csua@csua?

3/6     http://www.malepregnancy.com
        The domainname speaks for itself.
        \_ it's a hoax, of course.
        \_ http://www.rabbittest.com

3/6     Simon coasting to easy victory!
        \_ ?
           \_ It's official.  Simon won.

3/4     M$ says that removing exploder will be a death blow:
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33198-2002Mar3.html
        \_ They might have to pull their systems off the market....and develop
           new ones!  Think of the market share they'd lose as their
           competitors steal market share!  Right... no competitors.  Well,
           but people _need_ a new product!  Look at how many people are still
           running Win 98!  Oh wait... wrong way.  Um.
        \_ On good hardware it would take an hour to recompile using the
           -D NO_CRAP switch.
           \_ VC++: Error: #define NO_CRAP: unsupported!
                \_ It's coming in a future version.  Just keep buying MS!

3/2     Anybody have a good link for free ringtones?
        \_ Ericsson or Nokia?
           \_Nokia...
             \_ what is wrong with you ringtone people? it's completely
                stupid and obnoxious. Please make it stop.

**/**   Restored.  Dont be stupid.  'rm' is not the smart way to clean the
        motd.  If you don't like it, don't read it.

3/1     I'm looking for a product that will let me page my keys, like
        how you can page a cordless phone when you lose it around the
        house.  Anyone know where I can get this?  Particularly one
        that can control many little pagers.
           \_ http://www.greatbuyusa.com/category.asp?category=5
                It responds to a whistle.
                \_ too bad whistle is on key chain
        \_ the transceive that you'd have to attach to your keys would
           probably be pretty bulky and make this whole endeavor
           not practical.
           \_ It wouldn't have to support long ranges.
           \_ worst case, you could tape your phone to your keys. So it is
              not like it has to be *that* bulky, because you can get pretty
              small cordless phones these days.
        \_ I also want something that I can attach to my glasses and Palm
           Pilot. Something that will cost me $50 for like 4-5 sensors + base.
           \_ http://www.greatbuyusa.com/category.asp?category=5
                It responds to a whistle.
                \_ What would be cool is if they can make something like
                   this, except the whistle would cause something in the
                   key ring attachment to resonate, which gets turned into
                   torque and make the whole thing hover in the air.
        \_ maybe brookstone or sharper image?
        \_ i remember seeing something like this for keys in "SkyMall", the
           ubercatalog they give you on airplanes to tempt you into buying
           stuff when you're bored out of your mind.
        \_ http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview.jhtml?sku=SI567GRY
           shop away yuppie boy

03/01   GM Mar. 14, 6:00, in 306 Soda; we intend to amend the
        constitution at this meeting. --Galen
        \_ you can't be bothered to spell out "General Meeting?"

3/1     is there a good electronics dictionary/encyclopedia online?
        \_  I've found FOLDOC to be pretty handy:
            http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc
            \_ just wanted to substantiate that claim... I've learned alot
               from FOLDOC over the years.

2/28    Another end-of-month URL:
        What's wrong with this picture? Took me about a minute to figure it out
        http://www.stonetable.org/files/whatswrong.swf
        \_ well, it's way over-sharpened, and uses too much jpg compression.
           The lighting is also difficult; it could use some studio lights
           to light the foreground and mute the effect of the bright
           sunlight in the window.  I don't see a real focus of interest;
           it would be better composed as a smaller picture, perhaps by
           placing the flowers on the table at the intersection of thirds.
            -tom
        \_ I don't get it. Is the punchline the stupid scream?
           \_ So what is the answer?
        \_ Uuuuuh... whatever.
        \_ The wayboard.gif one was better (on the motd 1/12/2002)
           \_ Yup.  http://208.178.180.118/gold/wayboard.gif
              \_ what's about the wayboard.gif?  I just see a junk yard.
                what is it supposed to be?
                \_ it's the same thing.  what's wrong with the picture.  takes
                   about a minute to figure out.
        \_ Try http://www.stonetable.org/files/diplomacy.swf

3/01    Midnight... time for DBZ!  Gohan's First Date!

2/28    Whacky.  Got a recruiter calling from a place that doesn't seem to
        exist.
        \_ Be careful, its probably the feds checking if the wiretap is
           working
           \- wouldnt it be more likely to be your employer spying on you?
        \_ how do you know it doesnt exist?

2/28    how could that asshole who kidnapped/killed Danielle van Dam
        so vehemently deny that he's done it all despite the evidence.
        \_ It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
           \_ He never used the word "is".
                \_ Ah ha!  He must be innocent then!
        \_ Son, that's what we have trials and juries and stuff for.  You want
           to do all trials in the oh-so independent media?  Or maybe a nice
           lynching?

2/28    Recession officially over.  Find your own URL.

2/27    What is the purpose of the flap in men's briefs?
        - guy who never had a dad
        \_ No idea.  -has dad
        \_ so when the hooker's blowing you, the band doesn't constrict.
           duh.
        \_ they're used to increase drag and ultimately to increase the
           descend rate without picking up extra speed.
                \_ Am I supposed to put my penis through it?
                  \_ It does beat the pull-down,whip-out method for saving
                     the elastic, I imagine most guys prefer pd/wo.
        \_ even if you had a dad, would you ask him?  At what age would
           you ask him?
        \_ it's a pocket for rolls of quarters.
        \_ never had a dad?  You have two mothers and a genetics lab?
           Is the story of your conception and birth suitable for an xfiles
           episode?  Is this a Messiah/Christ immaculate thing?
        \_ Just in case this is serious, it's to pee standing up without having
           to drop your pants or unbuckle your belt.
           \_ that is not exactly correct.  It allows you to not have to
              drop your underwear, but unless you have a fly in your pants
              you still have to drop them.  hence this feature is likely to
              be useless if you always wear sweat pants.

2/27    what propositions will you vote yes on?
        There's an election coming up? .
        40
        41
        42
        43
        44
        45
        46
        47
        48
        49
        50
        53
        yermom

2/26    http://atari.saturn5.com/~max    thair tweenz!

2/26    1@t1n n3v3r 3nd3d.

2/25    return of ricochet
        http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/02/25/ricochet/index.html
        \_ Ricochet is not returning.  It is dead.  Move on.

2/25    2.4.18 released!  Go straight to your favorite mirror!
        \_ uh, why?
           \_ yeah, we might as well start posting Windoze patch updates as
              well.

2/25    Doom.
        \_ #t
        \_ Doom.
        \_ Dwoom.

2/25    i guess they flunked  = http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/25/soldier.killed.ap/index.html

2/25    What happened to the program "vis"? I thought it was supposed to show
        the output of a program repeatedly. /usr/bin/vis "is a filter
        for converting non-printable characters into a visual
        representation"

2/25    YES!  Cal is finally ranked!  (AP No. 25)
        \_ what the hell are you talking about?
           \_ sounds like ncaa basketball
        \_ Jackass. We're AP No. 21.            (ESPN #25)
           http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/rankings/ratings.html
           \_ So how was he wrong and deserving of "jackass"? Not like AP
              is better or more accurate than the ESPN/USA Today poll. And
              it's really about the RPI ratings when it comes down to the
              Tourney anyway.
              \_ He was wrong because he said we were ranked AP #25, and that
                 is an incorrect statement. We are ranked AP #21. If he said
                 that we were ranked #25, I would have simply added "21 in AP!"
                 He gets the jackass title because I'm a jackass myself. Also,
                 he gets it because he's not giving "us" the credit we're due.
           \_ The Coach's poll is widely seen as a joke this year, esp
              after Utah's guy was tossed for voting for a team with a
              .500 record.  Just last week, ASU had more points than
              Cal and you can thank their having a vote for this.  The
              polls are more revelent than RPI for seeding the top 25.
        \_ Dude!  There's a new point release out!  You know where to get it!
           Upgrade now!

2/24    Brian Harvey is listed in the Specail Thanks section of Serious Sam,
        the Second Encounter.  Cool.
        \_ Yeah cool, your profs are playing FPS's all day instead of doing
           something that might improve your otherwise dismal education.

2/23    Requiescat in pacem, Chuck Jones.
        \_ Tha tha tha tha that's all, folks!

2/22    The dangers of coffee.  It really can kill you:
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53567-2002Feb22.html

2/21    How come Tara Lipinski didn't compete this year?
        \_ She turned pro.

2/21    anyone worked with/for james raby @ sgi -- is he a good programmer/mgr?
        \_ he's at sgi.  isn't that enough?  make that he's *still* at
           sgi.

2/21    How do recycle companies handle paper envelops that have plastic
        windows?  They're not having workers going through all the envelops
        and tear off the plastics, right?
        \_ Why don't you ask them and tell us?

2/21    Anyone heard of Wink Communications?  What's their deal?
        Should I work there?
        \_ Are you employed?  If not and they offered you a job, take it.
        \_ I worked at Geoworks when Wink spun off six or seven years ago.
           It was a division called Geoworks ITV before spinning off.  Now
           it's still within walking distance from Geoworks.  Don't know much
           about its prospect.  --- yuen
        \_ Wink has been on the verge of hitting the big time since 97. They
           aren't any closer today than in 97. Think of it as yet another
           marimba.

2/20    What does this idiom mean: "that's neither here nor there" ?
        \_ "That is not really related to the point I am making."

2/19    For the person who asked about stty yesterday. Try something
        like the following in your .profile, it might just solve your
        problem:

        case "$-" in
           *i*) eval `/usr/bin/tset -sQ \?$TERM` ;;
        esac

2/19    Where's a good place to get posters of microprocessors?
        \_ 330 soda.  take them from the walls (they're already framed)
           \_ Hi paolo!  You like taking posters, don't you?
              \_ hi ilyas!
              \_ who is paolo?
                 \_ Uid Formerly Known As Paolo is now pst@soda.
pst              ttyE8    128.32.134.119   Mon Feb 18 19:40 - 03:01  (07:21)
                    \_ i don't think he logs in anymore

2/20    go breathe elsewhere

2/20    I don't breath grossly much air, but, I tend to notice my chest
        expand after taking a breath - what can be done about this?  I point
        this question to ppl like tom, or other pollution-conscious sodans.
        (i would like to know what exercises I can do to specifically keep my
        air from forcing my chest to bulge, or alternatively, training my
        muscles to tell me to stop breathing if the problem is I'm not noticing
        my lungs are full.
        \_ I suggest training with sealed plastic bags over your head.  Start
           with a large bag and make them progressively smaller while you
           increase the length of each training session.  Once you have fully
           mastered the advanced techniques, breathing won't be a problem for
           you anymore.  I promise.

2/19    Does help@soda no longer work? My mails seem to go into a
        blackhole!! What the (&^%*&
        \_ Ask help@soda

2/19    The point of screensavers (in response to a nuked thread):
        http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/savers.html

2/18    poll: if the Canadians didn't whine, would they have gotten laid?
        yes:
        no:  .

2/17    Are there any reasons not to take unemployment benefits from the
        state?  And what is the website to go to?
        \_ only if you're totally pathetic like me! - danh
        \_ You only get them for 6 months, and if you plan on being unemployed
           for a looong time, they'll go up next year in January.
           http://www.edd.ca.gov
           \_ Doesn't your 6 months reset after some period of time?
              \_ If you work 3 mo. it resets.

2/17    Has anyone ever seen anything remotely decent at Subterranean
        Shakespeare (the basement of LaVals)? --scotsman
        \_ Never.  If you want to impress your sophomore gf on a first date
           with how artsy you are this is a good place to take her for cheap.
           Most freshman aren't ready for artsy yet and juniors/seniors should
           know better than LaVals for theatre.

2/16    http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/16/arms.usa.missile.reut/index.html
        Sigh...  And we're still trying, why?

2/16    I have 2 i.i.d. exponential r.v.'s, w/ f(x)= exp(-x). What is
        distribution of their sum, using convolution?  I get
        f(z) = Integral(-inf,inf)[exp(-z)dx], where exp(-z) is a
        constant, so the integral is simply x*exp(-z), but limits
        from 0 to infinity is unintegrable.  Help?  Thx.  -nivra

2/16    http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/02/16/microsoft.code.reut/index.html
        bullshit..as mush as i'm not that fond of microsoft's practices and
        products, this is totally unnecessary.
        \_ if  they are going to make legal claims they cannot separate
            products from the OS, they need to be able to back it up by
            showing the source.

02/16   Soda will be going down for a semi-urgent reboot/OS update at 1pm
        today.  -root

2/16    IT Geek Love on CL. http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/w4m/2923359.html
        \_ what net netwbie posted this? this has been going around for ages.
        \_ what net newbie posted this? this has been going around for ages.
           \_ More concretely, since '96 at least:
              http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=55vtpl%249gk%40huffmanpc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dg:thl89367922d%26hl%3Den%26selm%3D55vtpl%25249gk%2540huffmanpc.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM
              This thread was probably the source of the compiled version
              that appeared a couple of years later all over the place
              and is reproduced above.

B

2/15    all, there will be a brief meeting FRIDAY FEBRUARY 15
        6PM on the STEPS OF WHEELER
        it will be to discuss the airport workers activities and the other
        events on the list. please come.  -rachel
        \_I'm confused. What exactly is the purpose of this?
        \_ Will the airport workers discuss hiring some people who speak
           english and are helpful and knowledgeable instead of stupid
           and rude?  -John
           \_ Also, will the airport workers discuss hiring some people who
              just pick on old ladies and avoid confronting those passengers
              who look mean enough?
              \_ You can't racial profile.  You must treat every 89 year old
                 from Topeka the same as someone carrying a bomb and wearing
                 an "Osama is my friend!" tshirt.
              \_ What the fuck!?  Why should I be picked on just because
                 I go to the gym a lot, and have a big build?!
                 \_ 'cause the guards like to check out yerbod.
                 \_ wtf are you talking about?  are you pumping too many
                    steroids?  they damage your brain you know.

2/14    http://www.recipe.com is gone?  It was still there yesterday!
        \_ What is Ketchum Kitchen? I like http://epicurious.com       - rory
        \_ http://www.recipesource.com baby

2/14    Happy V-day!
        \_ FOAD.
        \_ Bah humbug
        \_ I'm suprised more people haven't said anything.
           Apathy?
           \_ too busy getting some or being in denial

2/12    Its been asked before and will probably be asked again...
        Where is a good place to get your car washed in the Berkeley
        area? (not Touchless on  Oxford)
        \_ bucket. hoser. sponge.
           \_ that would work... but 1-2 hours of my time is worth
              ~$10 to me. additionally, I don't have one of those
               high power vacuums with attachments.
               \_ while I see your points, it won't take 1-2 hours and
                  if you do it yourself, it'll be much better.
                  Then again you need space and time.
                  If you have a girlfriend you could have her help you
                  and take photographs to post on the web.

2/12    Thank you dim for answering my questions on seeds.  Good thing we
        have a motd archive or else I would have missed it.  Why do people
        keep deleting my threads?

2/12    Bill, I believe this is killing me.
        \_You're sure that you could be a movie star?
          \_ Yeah, if I could get out of this place.

2/11    What are the qualifications for FAFSA? I've worked full time last
        year as a code monkey, how do I find out if I am eligible?
        \_ is your EFC (expected family contribution) based ONLY on last
           year's tax? Or could you somehow change it?

2/11    Long live ArsDigita!!! Stop censoring damnit

2/11    What song is that playing in the new nike commercial where the skater
        keeps eating it?

2/10    Suck my big black cock.

2/8     Why do government officials sometimes talk about something on condition
        of anonymity?  If what they're saying is not supposed to leak out and
        they worry about being caught, they shouldn't even say that they
        represent the government, right?
        \_ Reporters generally contact them, not the other way around.
        \_ Sometimes they do that because letting the information be
           known is beneficial to them or to their superiors, or damaging
           to their adversaries , but the fact that they leaked the
           information would be a negative for them.  Other times it's
           because the reporter is good and the person owes the reporter
           a favour.
        \_ i think it is a way the officials use to test an initial
           response from the public.  same thing happens in the corporate
           sector.

2/8     Can I use ispell in jove? if not, where is spell?

2/8     Am I the only one who thinks this whole "Daniel Pearl: American
        Kidnapped" thing is just a hoax? By him.
        Does this make me unpatriotic? or just skeptical and jaded.
        \_ Just a moron.

2/8     For adult illiterates, how long does it usually take them to learn
        how to read/write...months? years?
        \_ Most adult illiterates aren't illiterate in the same sense as a
           child who is learning from scratch.  They're "functionally
           illiterate" which means they can read a few words or maybe simple
           phrases and probably know the alphabet but can't read and
           understand lengthy passages.  Time to learn depends on why they're
           like that.  Some learning disabilities are physical and not easily
           overcome but a poor education as a child won't slow them as an
           adult.
           \_ But a child has many more hours per day to learn something than
              an adult.  An adult has to work, or do the housework, or take
              care of the kids, etc.
                \_ But the child isn't spending any more time than the adult
                   and also doesn't have the cultural background an adult has
                   to understand the context of the words.  Given the same
                   time an adult will become functionally literate before a
                   child if the adult is illiterate due to poor education and
                   not mental/physical disability that hinders learning.

2/8     Ali is 1/8th Caucasian.
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&u=/nm/20020208/od_nm/people_ali_ireland_dc_2

2/7     I know I can use "dig" to find out what foo is MXed to, but is
        there a way to find out every MXed to bar ? (at least on an
        authoritative name server ?)
        \_ host -t MX -l <DEAD>your-domain.com<DEAD> | grep bar
        \_ Thats like trying to find out every webpage that links to a
           particular page.  There is no back reference, so you can't really
           know find this out.  Sure, looking at access logs might give you
           all the links that were used, but you'd still have an unknown
           number of unused ones out there.
        \_ No.  This is why relay-based-on-mx can be trivially spoofed.

2/7     I know this sounds dumb, but what is so cool about meditation? I mean
        if I really want to relax, I'd go to the beach or listen to KOIT.
        And if I want to rest, I'd take a nap. What can I get with meditation
        that I can't using other methods?
        \_ Meditation is not just relaxing, and while it can feel restful, you
           generally don't "rest".  It's a focusing of your thoughts and your
           physical actions.  It takes a lot of active thought and physical
           discipline to meditate well, and in turn meditation helps exercise
           both mind and body.  But if you find listening to KOIT relaxing,
           you have bigger problems.  --scotsman
           \_ Geez. Now I have to wonder if I've been masturbating well or
              poorly all these years.
            \_ "Using meditation as a relaxation technique is like using
                the Hope Diamond to scratch a phone message for your roommate
                on the bathroom mirror."  --Tom Robbins
                \_ "Quoting Tom Robbins in the motd is like scratching
                    an old 45 with a Hope Diamond." --Me

2/07    What is the relationship between KHZ and bitrate for streaming audio.
        e.g. to stream at 22.1 KHz what kind of a bitrate (Kb/sec) do i need?
        \_ I think if it's 8-bit sampling you need 22100 * 8 bit/sec.  if it's
           16-bit you need 22100 * 16.
        \_ bitrate = sampling rate * sample bit depth
           now go back to school.

2/7     Grey Squirrels are overtaking Red Squirrels:
        http://www.nature.com/nsu/020204/020204-5.html
        \_ Good. I always hated those damned red squirrels.

2/7     One day Spider Man will be reality!
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20020121/en_usatoday/3789419
        \_ "Spider webs kept in museums have lasted for 200 years" -- geez,
           they should try dusting more often!

2/6     Is it technically difficult to create a vcr that accepts both NTSC
        and PAL? Why the format difference?
        \_ 1) No. In fact, all major equipment makers sell such devices. They're
           called "multi-system" VCRs. They are more expensive than
        \_ 1) No. In fact, all major equipment makers sell such devices.
           They're called "multi-system" VCRs. They are more expensive than
           single-system VCRs, however, and since there is very low demand for
           multi-system VCRs, you'd have to order one using manufacturer's
           catalog.
           \_ They are in low demand here but in high demand in East Asian
              countries.  Same for multi-system TVs.
        \_ Wanna watch legal Danish teen porn?
        \_ What is PAL?

2/5     Is anyone else made violently ill by the shitty music in commercials
        lately?  Or does everyone have Tivo's?

2/5     Size 9/9.5? climbing shoes free to good home; too small for me. -pld

2/5     the following was posted to the motd yesterday:
        " \_ antisymmetry is when you buy a house, ring, etc etc and then
             you get a divorce, pay alimony, lose a house, so on and so
             forth.                       -bmg"
        bmg?? wtf?  did Bitter Divorced Guy get re-married?  Say it ain't so!

2/4     chialea did you get anything from gradsk00l$ yet?
        have you applied for FAFSA?
        \_ Unlike some people I wouldn't instantly blast anything off the
           motd I thought didn't belong but I am curious: why do some people
           post personal questions to the motd that are better asked in email?
           \_ My theory is its unrequited lust. Notice they're mostly for
               the women.
               \_ Hell, it seems to be mostly for chialea in recent times.
                  \_ Well ok it's fanboy lust but posting anonymously isn't
                     going to get them a date or even let the woman know
                     which geekboy is interested.  It seems pointless.
                     It's not important.  Just curious.  --OP
                        \_ who could possibly be intereested in chialea?
                           \_ The manliest of men -chialea #1 fan #1 fan
                              \_ Hi geordan.
                                 \_ Wait, am I manly or am I a
                                    meta-stalker?  Or both? -geordan
                  \_ She seems to enjoy the attention, so I guess that
                     encourages things.
           \_ I think to preserve anonomity because (s)he is too embarrassed
              to be identified.
           \_ I think he's cool -chialea #1 fan #1 fan
        \_ no, I don't think any of them have told anyone anything yet (I
           hope!), and I'm not eligable for FAFSA. -chialea
           \_ Due to parent's zip code, right?
           \_ why not? criminal history? illegal alien?
              \_ I believe there are income requirements. I'm going for
                 fellowships instead. -chialea
                 \_ just curious, what ARE the requirements?
        \_ yikes! whatever happened to chialea's old picture on the web?

2/3     Whats a good place around Berkeley to buy racks for my Carla?
        Any places to get used ones? (Ebay didn't have many).
        \_ what kind of car?
        \_ Nice rack, babe.
        \_ Craigslist. Yahoo classified.
        \_ What size cups you want?

2/1     In "The Matrix" there's a line "Buckle your seat belt Dorothy, coz
        Kansas is going bye-bye."  Is that a reference to some story book or
        something?
        \_ are you from taiwan?
           \_ he's probably never seen any movie before Star Wars
           \_ from china, more likely.
        \_ ref to "The Wizard of Oz"
           \_ You might have to explain to him what "Wizard of Oz" is.
              \_ I see.  I know The Wizard of Oz, but I've never seen/read
                 the whole thing.  Thanks.
                \_ benco, is that you?

1/31    Who do you think is the most annoying TV pitch man/woman these
        days:
                The Dell Dude
                CarrotTop (CallAtt)
                7-Up guy
                Others?
        \_ Bob Dole
        \_ Hallie Eisenberg
        \_ orlando jones is funny. dell dude is just acting like a moron,
           carrot top actually is a moron. and hallie eisenburg, BURN IN HELL!

1/30    .coop domains available. link:www.bayarea.com/c/breaking/docs/001887.htm

1/30    Is there a place in the Bay Area where one can buy a mobile
        (something you put up on the ceiling)?
        \_ you can probably find some nice ones at art museums.
           they may have calder ones at sfmoma.
        \_ What's a mobile?
           \_ opposite of a stationary
                \_lol very appropriate answer.
        \_ SFMOMA and Chiasso.  You may also find some at random
           shi-shi stores.  I'd go with the ones in SFMOMA, for
           better price and make.
           \_ I haven't tried this but I hear they're not that hard to
              make yourself, I've seen nice homemade ones made from
              wood and string and using shells, coins, found objects
              to hang on them.
              \_ I made one few years back while working at a computer lab.
                 The entire thing was made out of paperclips.
        \_ make one!
        \_ if it's not good, make it big.  if it's not big, paint it red.

1/30    How do I enable column-number-mode in my .emacs? I tried
        (require 'column-number-mode)
        and
        (column-number-mode)
        but neither seem to work properly.
        \_ (setq column-number-mode t)       this is what I have in my
           .emacs.              -mice
            \_ Thanks. This works perfectly.

1/30    Is there a place in Berkeley where one can buy a mobile
        (something you put up on the ceiling)?

1/29    In design pattern, is it proven that iterators and visitor patterns
        are completely interchangeable?
        \_ they are completely different.

1/29    I'm looking for an app. like AutoMate (http://www.unisyn.com/automate
        that runs on X.  Can anyone suggest one? -crebbs
        \_ what's automate?
        \_ so does this app find you a soul mate or something? =)

1/29    the wolf is just beginning to come!
        \_ Yes.  Exactly.
           \_ He should pull out then.
              \_ Yes.  Exactly.
                \_ not if it wants some little wolfies.
                   \_ wolflets?

1/28    Watch out for the "My Party" virus.

1/28    http://planetary.org/survey
        Express your views about NASA's future.
        \_ this is discussed all the time.  check the motd archive.

1/27    http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/pt/20020122/co/what_men_really_love_about_women_s_bodies_1.html
        The URL says it all.

1/27    Anyone know a good business card printer in the area?
        Don't say vistaprint. --scotsman
        \_ Out of curiosity, why not vistaprint?

1/28    new photos from my party!
        http://www.myparty.yahoo.com

01/27   sshd has been updated.  bugs to root.

1/25    Geeks-meeting-girls made easy.
        <DEAD>www.coincidencedesign.com<DEAD>
        \_ Cute, but, thankfully:
           http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12236

1/25    RTFM @ M$:
http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@www.hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20-%20HOWTO.htm
        \_ Nice try.  Because we're just all too stupid to know what the @
           in the URL means.

1/25    wtf is the difference between an "unlawful combatant" and a POW?
        \_ lawful combatants wear uniforms, have a chain of command, 'follow
           the rules of war'.  Basically a member of a modern army in the sense
           that countries have armies.  No country?  No army?  unlawful
           combatant.  That's the basics of it.  Go find the details online if
           you care more.
                \_ Alright, makes sense. So then why aren't they considered
                   POW's? Seems unfair that the US captures them, labels
                   them something random, just so they don't have to abide
                   by the Geneva Convention.
                   \_ lack of accountability to anyone other than themselves.

1/25    What is the best site for francophiles
        \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good
           \_ I think he means high end audio equipment.
                \_ you are generally correct.
        \_ soundstage is pretty good
        \_ http://www.sound.au.com

1/25    What is the best site for audiofilez
        \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good
           \_ I think he means high end audio equipment.
                \_ you are generally correct.
        \_ soundstage is pretty good
        \_ whoever changed "slavophiles" to "hydrophiles": that is so
           childish  - original poster
           \_ You said "audiphile"! uh uh uh! audiophile!

1/26    do we dare 'take arms against a sea of troubles'?

1/25    What is the best site for audiophiles
        \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good
           \_ I think he means high end audio equipment.
                \_ you are generally correct.
        \_ soundstage is pretty good
        \_ whoever changed "audiophiles" to "pedophiles": that is so
           childish  - original poster
           \_ You said "audiphile"! uh uh uh! audiophile!

1/25    What is the best site for pedophiles?
        \_ audiogalaxy is pretty good
           \_ I think he means high end audio equipment.
                \_ you are generally correct.
        \_ soundstage is pretty good
        \_ http://www.sound.au.com
        \_ dude, whoever tried to replace "pedophiles" with "audiophiles",
           you're really not sick

1/25    Is there still a difference between Star Office and Open Office?
        Who maintains each one?

1/24    quote of the day: "john walker loves amerika."

1/24    When people talk about 1st tier and 2nd tier schools, what exactly
        does that mean? Does first tier mean top 10, 2nd tier top 20, and
        so on so forth?
        \_ I will now offer a working definition:
           Tier one is the set of grad shools that do not have some
           significant difference between themselves and the best school(s)
           in the field.  Tier two schools have some significant way that
           they are not as strong as the tier ones , but are roughly on
           the same plane, and still good.  how big these sets are
           depends non how fine a distinction you look at.  I would say that
           in physics, there are about 6-10 first tier schools and mabye
           15 or so second tier schools, depending on who you ask.
        \_ I use 1st tier to mean top 20 and 2nd tier to mean #20-50.
           \_ you're claiming that there is no formal definition?
              \_ "formal" requires an authority. i'm sure someone out there
                 has declared themselves an authority and picked a definition.
                 _very_ probably, there're more than a few such someones, and
                 their definitions differ.
              \_ When using "tier" definitions, I would propose that there
                 is no exact number, otherwise people would USE that figure.
                 Tier is nebulous enough to mean top three to top 20.
        \_ some other people say top tier is top 10.  2nd tier is 10-20 or
           10-30 or so.  That's just another person's sense/opinion.
        \_ And who defines what # a school gets anyway?  It's all subjective.

1/24    What's a good WAP phone/service that'll work in Berk?
        \_WAP is ass.

1/23    For something like an ansewring machine, where would it be cheaper..
        BestBuy or Target? (a cheap one that is)
        \_ You can get a POS $14.99 answering machine almost anywhere.  How
           important is it that you actually get your messages?
           \_ the cheapo ($20-30) AT&T branded solid state ones are nice.

1/23    Death Match: Fry's Electronics vs. Best Buy.  Any comparison?

1/23    Are Bengalis in general more vertical challenged?

1/23    After selling products for years that are "secure", M$ finally says
        they have decided to make their product secure in the future.
        \_ Well no, they only said they should choose security over more
           features.  As 99% of their features are worthless bloat, expect
           the same of their security.  --MS #1 Fan

1/23    What a static motd lately...  Where have all the trollers gone?

1/22    Wall berlin closed.
        \_ and there was much rejoicing.
        \_ i loved wall berlin.  strada is too... unfriendly

01/22   Any network problems you have connecting to soda are likely the result
        of campus-wide bandwidth throttling imposed by CNS without warning.

1/22    Hello, here is an interesting problem [harder than the canoe-bowling
        ball one]: Given a circle with radius=1, can you draw a parabola s.t.
        the part inside the circle has length greater than 4? ok tnx. --psb
        \_ In how many dimensions?  Do I get to warp space?  -Q
           \- in flat plane, obviously. --psb
        \_ http://vadim.berkeley.edu/parabola.html (my solution) -vadim
           \- yeah, that's pretty good. how did you compute it? I think the
           problem has a different feel if you ask "yes or no" and you dont
           get a computer and have to do it "on the back of an envelope" vs
           "find the max length parabola" but you get a computer. --psb
           \_ Warping space was easier.  You humans and your 2D math.... -Q

1/22    A moment of silence for Peggy Lee who died from a heart attack in her
        home at age 81.  Thank you.
        [stop deleteing this you soulless little bastard]
                \_ maybe others don't have the same appreciation you do.
                   \_ and that's a reason to delete this?  fuckin' life free
                      geeks...
                      \_ if you are really posting this to commemorate the
                         death of someone you think is important, you
                         should post a link to an elegey or write one
                         yourself. it appears, however that you just posted
                         it so you can feel superior to those who don't know
                         about the same person you do.
                         \_ Indeed... who the hell is Peggy Lee and why should
                            we care?
        \_ .....   OK.  Now, who was Peggy Lee?
          \_ A vocal jazz legend, I heard.

1/22    I have the butt-rock opening to ST Enterprise stuck on
        permanent loop in my head. Somebody please kill me.
        \_ Gladly.

1/21    The thing some troll posted about commemorating MLK day said it was
        taking place on the 16th....  Seeing as how today, the 21st, is MLK
        day wouldn't today be a better day?

1/21    Anyone know anything about the profs teaching math 110 this semester?
        They are: Aschenbrenner, Pachter, Kantorovitz, Iliev, Wagoner, and the
        devil himself, Kahan.

1/20    What's the deal with the Soda/Cory network again?

1/18    What's the longest soda has ever been up?
        \_ I remember a 6month period

1/18    solder wick or Soldapult?

1/18    "Saudis May Ask U.S. to Leave, Washington Post Says"
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020118/ts/attack_saudi_report_dc.html
        Time to really invest on high efficiency automobiles.
        \_ When hell freezes over
        \_ After their corrupt pseudo government crumbles because they can't
           pay off their own extremists anymore we'll be setting up bases
           there with the post-extremist government's help.  Time heals all.

1/17    "Fashion Giant Armani Says He's Sick of Luxury"
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020117/re/life_fashion_armani_dc_1.html
        What kind of bullshit is that!?

1/16    Just randomness.  What do you think of this?  <DEAD>www.evernet.com<DEAD>
        A twist on p2p.
        \_ If they can sell it they'll make a bundle.

1/16    Is the stupid TeleBears on-line yet?    -91 alum
        \_ yes
           \_ (unfortunately) -current student who has to put up with the
              incredibly moronic interface that is literally just a front-end
              to the telephone interface (there're stories of a mainframe
              actually punching in the digits on the other side)

1/15    Ok then, pave the whole fucking place.  Animals.
        http://israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=16376&PHPSESSID=374ebc9c04a005701a0c5c183f99751b
        \_ Yeah, at least civilized people have the decency to use tanks,
           gunships, and bulldozers.

1/14    Is the UFC (ultimate fighting championship) still around?
        \_ yes, you want to join? Skinny Geek Man
        \_ fight club

1/14    How do you snoop using WEP? Thanks.
        \_ Step (1): Google.
           Step (2): Read and follow instructions found.

1/14    <DEAD>www.celebcities.com/kimgin/story/baxter_barbitwins.htm<DEAD>
        Anyone saw that on TV?  Was the fight real?  Or was that some really
        amazing stunts?
        \_ Is Amy Lynn Baxter a porn star or just a nude star?

1/13    Where can I find CSUA's SSI "Exec" policy?
        \_ /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf

1/13    there's this giant 30th steel virgin mary sculpture
        visible from the freeway near santa clara, what is it?
        which church?  what am i talking about?  thanks - danh
        \_ Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church, off of 101
           <DEAD>www.olp-faith.com/ya<DEAD>
        \_ You mean "Our Lady of Perpetual Power Supply"? --scotsman

1/14    Men with big stinky pipes rule!

1/14    Is it too late to sell stocks for a loss and write it off?
        What's the last day?
        \_ Yes. AFAIK Dec 31.

1/12    how do you get XV to strech an image to cover the entire root background?
        \_ xv -root