11/7    Look what we're doing to those poor innocent people in Afghanistan!
      http://www.studentmagazine.com/thisweek/thisweek_article.asp?articleID=213

11/7    Let's say you got laid off but you still have mail and packages going
        to your company. How do you go about getting them?
        \_ File a forwarding card with U.S.P.S. I've done it before. - jthoms
           \_ what about fedex/whatnot?
                \_ what about them?  Those are short term near-over night
                   services.  Why would someone fexed you something after you
                   were gone?

11/7    I've noticed that, when I use PGP on soda, it spits a chain
        of hex numbers that I don't need to see. Does anybody
        know the flag to get rid of all that? It's not on the man
        page and I wouldn't even know what to check on google.
                                                    --ulysses
        \_ 2>/dev/null ?

11/7    I'm graduating in May.  Has ee122 improved at all?  I don't want
        to waste my time.
        \_ No. It sucks. Don't waste your time. Take something more useful,
           like underwater basket weaving. At least you might get a good
           prof and perhaps your GSI will have clue.
        \_ It is more dependent on the professor teaching it than other classes.
           http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/prof-query?walrand_j
           The last EE 122 numbers for Walrand are not encouraging. -mgoodman
           \_ Walrand's book was the most ridiculously priced POS textbook I
              bought at Berkeley.  God, taking EE122 was a mistake.
        \_ So it seems unanimous that this class is a waste of time...
           So what is another good way to learn this material? Is there a
           really good book on the subject?
           \_ TCP/IP Illustrated, by Stevens.  -- misha.
              \_ thanks for the suggestion... I highly doubt that this is
                 legal, but the full text of the first volume of this book
                 appears to be online for all those interested:
                   http://starlet.deltatel.ru/tcp_stivens
        \_ the only time it was good was when kevin fall taught it.
           but I think too many students bitched and moaned about how
           unfair it was that they had to do real coding projects with
           real protocols when they expected an easy handful of units
           that it has reverted back to lameness again
           \_ The class sucked with Kevin Fall. Yes, the project was cool,
              but he was the single worst prof that I had at Berkeley. Yes,
              worse than even Smith (!). Fall didn't really seem to care about
              the students, spoke in a monotone, had uninteresting homeworks
                            \_ Yeah, at least when Walrand teaches, you get to
                               be amused by his fruity accent!
              and tests, bad TAs, etc. The project was good, but not enough
              to redeem the class.

11/7    Happy 84th Annivesary of the CCCP.
        \_ You mean BOCP.  CCCP was established in 1923, last time I checked.
        \_ YPA!!

11/7    Look what we're doing to those poor innocent people in Afghanistan!
        http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/2001/11/08/story/0000110619

11/7    Anyone have any recommendations on flat screens? Brands, where to buy?
        \_ The Sun one's are good... look out for firesales from failing
           dot-coms.
           \_Sun probably OEMs them from someone else. Just go to http://www.zdnet.com
              and read the reviews.
        \_ flat-screen CRTs?  flat panels?  LCDs?  Plasma?

11/7    hello, has anyone dealt with hall kinion? how effective are they?
        \_http://forum.fuckedcompany.com/fc/phparchives/search.php?search=kinion
          \_ they were okay with a short-term tech writing contract
             i had in 2000 (at digitalthink), but their involvement
             was incidental--i found the listing, they happened to
             be managing it. --goetz

11/6    How to find out who is the pedantic prick who is telling me how to
        properly ask a question so that I can beat the shit out of him/her?
        \_ I suspect the line of pedantic pricks willing to tell you how to
           phrase a question using proper English syntax is quite long.
        \_ http://tuxedo.org/~esr
           go to it.

 11/6  Mathworld is back!!
       http://mathworld.wolfram.com
       \_ be that as it may, I will *never* buy a CRC product ever again.
          \_ Oh, there's no shame in never buying a CRC product again.
             Did you read the terms of the settlement they agreed to
             so they could get the site back up?  Basically, they're paying
             CRC off a lump sum, paying them for estimated future losses
             on an ongoing basis, agreeing that CRC has a copyright on their
             material, and guaranteeing CRC the rights to future material.
             Personally, I wish the site was still down and being fought for
             in court.

11/6    Computer & Office stuff for sale:
        <DEAD>www.euphorion.com/~dbushong/for_sale.shtml<DEAD>

11/6    Thanks for all the recommendations on the network activity monitor.
        We decided to go with ethereal.                         - brendal

11/5    Can someone please post again the URL to prevent those 10X ads from
        popping up?  Thanks.
        \_ you mean x10?
           \_ Yeah, sorry.
        \_
http://www.x10.com/home/optout.cgi?DAY=5000&PAGE=http://www.x10.com/x10ads1.htm
           \_ Thank you.
        \_ use Pop-up Killer instead..

11/5    http://www.angelfire.com/80s/punkysplace/images/asmfp03.jpg
        \_  I'd like to hit it...
            \_ I'd like to f**k it...

11/3    Ajani mentioned something in the meeting notes about a tradein
        deal for HP-LaserJet 4s.  Could someone post a URL?  Thanks
        \_ yeah, I mentioned it, but I hadn't looked it up at the time,
           I had just heard about it. It seems that we thought about it
           too late, as when I looked it up, the offer expired on
           October 31: <DEAD>www.hpprimetime.com/trade-in.html<DEAD>
           -- ajani

11/3    Foom!
        \_ <DEAD>195.12.228.253/big-tel/promos/groups/foom.htm<DEAD>

11/2    Monsters Inc. Go see it. Fun stuff.

11/2    Who is the hot girl in the blue dress in these x10 ads?
        \_ Can someone please post again the URL to disable these x10 ads? Thx.
        \_ oh, you mean yermom?

11/2    "Mobster Shoots Two After Peeking Up Skirt"
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011102/od/gangster_dc_1.html
        Japanese gang members are amazing.  (BTW, the Yamaguchi syndicate is
        the most powerful gang in Japan.)
        \_ d'oh! and i only get a whack on the shoulder if my gf catches
           me glancing at another woman.
           \_ she needs an axe
                \_ she needs to get over it.  there's nothing wrong with
                   a simple "look but dont touch" rule.

11/2    who the fuck nuked the motd again?  Can someone post the old one back
        up?

11/2    What's the use of soldiers wearing forest camouflage in urban streets
        and bridges?  Shouldn't they wear red camouflage when they post on the
        GG bridge?

11/1    Your new World Champions: The New York Yankees.
        \_ We knew that the moment Jeremy Giambi forgot to slide in game 3
           of the A's series.
                \_ We knew that the minute the WTC blew up and MLB decided
                   it must be NY.
                \_ I switched over to WWF Smackdown last night because it was
                   less fixed.

11/1    Has anyone seen the Siebel American flag?  Any thoughts?
        \_ Surprising that the execs of a large corp can agree on something
           of rather extrovert patriotic nature in Si Valley.
        \_ Unless I'm mistaken, isn't Siebel a German company?
                \_ You're mistaken.  It was founded here by Thomas Siebel
                   after he left Oracle.
           \_ You're thinking of Siemens AG. -alexf
        \_ I haven't seen it.  Is it really gaudy, or kinda neat?
        \_ I think it looks really awesome... --liberal, !american
        \_ It's the best publicity stunt I've seen so far.
        \_ It's not the first one that Siebel Systems has put up.  The
           corporate HQ building in San Mateo had one up (smaller, but it
           was still up) a couple of days after the WTC went down.  This is
           by far the largest, though... -chaos
        \_ Any pix of it online? Where is it?

11/1    If the bridge is taken out, will we still have to go to school?
                                                -starving student
        \_ Paul Gray sent out a mail saying we'd be understanding if
           problems on the bridges cause delays.  -tom

11/1    obey your master MASTER
        \_ blinded my me you can't see a thing!

11/1    It's really sad that the govt has to spend money on publications
        such as this because of some pedantic fool out there:
        http://www.irs.gov/ind_info/friv_tax.pdf
       \_ Have a cookie.
       \_ I guess the IRS has been getting too many inquiries from those
          people who believe in every chain e-mail they receive.

11/1    Anyone noticed that Tawei Liao has pubic-hair-like hair?
        \_ You have a keen eye.  But I'd say my hair looks more like that
           of a 70s pimp rather than "pubic".  My hair can become quite big
           if I don't cut it often.

10/30   How's job hunting going?
        \_ Got one.
        \_ Got one, but I'm not sure playing tetris counts.
           \_ if it pats the bills hey, good for you. --jon
        \_ Got one in March after last company folded in January.  Is $108k a
           good pay in this economy for 8yrs of experience in device drivers?
           \_ oh shush
           \_ yes?
           \_ Yes, it's slightly better than my unemployment check.
              \_ how does unemployment work anyway?  where is that money
                 coming from?  Social Security fund?

10/31   I asked this before, but it got nuked.  Does anyone know where
        I can find one of those machines that will exchange pennies for
        more useful change?
        \_ link:www.coinstar.com
        \_ It got nuked?  It must have been offensive.
        \_ It must have offended someone so it got censored.
        \_ Vegas, baby.
           \_ Has anyone actually exchanged their five-year-old jar of
              coins in Vegas?
        \_ I use them up on AC Transit. Amazing how fast a jar of pennies
           can be used up as bus fare -- social science major

10/30   Can step-siblings legally get married in US?
        \_ If Woody Allen can bang his step-daughter, you're safe.
           \_ Soon-Yi was his step-adopted-daughter.
           \_ She's not cute.
        \_ if you bang that chick
           uncle sam won't mind too much
           but she's still your sis
           \_ what's with all of the haikus on the motd today?
              \_ And where's the zinc? -geordan

10/30   How is your job search going?

10/30   Why were there jets (really fast ones) constantly crossing between
        the south bay, penninsula, and the east bay last night?
        \_ I didn't hear anything at my home in north Fremont.  What time was
           it?
        \_ We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with
           Eastasia.
        \_ Canamexicusan forces heroically declared embargo on the dastardly
           \_ Dude, didn't you study geography?  It's Canamexicuban.  And
              if we were attacking them, they'd fly closer to Fresno...
              \_ as if the combined entity of the US, Canada, and Mexico
                 wouldn't be called "USA"...
                 \_ How about the "USNA" (United States of North America) to
                    tone down our arrogance?
                        \_ Why would the USA want Canada and Mexico anyway?
                           \_ Why does the US want Texas?
                              \_ Better Texas than LA. At least we can get
                                 oil from Texas.

10/29   anyone have renter's insurance recommendations for the bay area? thx.
        \_ State Farm is not cheap, but let you avoid having to deal with
           situations if you get in an accident.

10/29   yay, banner ads on taxis:
        http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/story/0,23158,3345052,00.html

10/29   And I just thought that PKI was too complex:
        http://www.counterpane.com/pki-risks.html

10/29   In order to conserve water, I've started to not flush the toilet when
        I pee.  I only flush when I poop.  Aside from the smell, is there
        anything wrong with that?  Thanks.
        \_ Nope, but have you ever considered getting a low flush toilet?
           \_ Low flush toilets are annoying. I switched to one, and it
              seems to clog up more often (too low a water:poop ratio?).
              I end up having to flush more often to prevent clogging, which
              in the end wastes more water.

10/29   Priviledged Children of Millionaires Square Off on World Stage:
        http://www.theonion.com/onion3738/privileged_children.html

10/29   are there any tools like rational purify for x86 linux?

10/25   Infidels, why are you not providing positive net content to the
        motd?
        \_ Life sucks then you die. Get over it.

10/26   Enjoy it while it lasts, our privacy will soon be gone
        (read http://ucb.org.csua for details)
        \_ Privacy IS NOT anonymity so STFU, you wanker..
           \_ You must have won your High School debate award.
        \_ How about you save us the trouble?
        \_ Not privacy.  However, the arguments in favor of logging the
           motd are fundamentally flawed.  Grow up and get a sense of
           perspective, guys.  -John

10/26   When a clock is 133MHz, does it mean 133,000,000Hz or 133,333,333Hz?
        Thanks.
        \_ Neither.  It means that the clock speed is most likely somewhere
          between 131MHz and 135MHz:  possibly a smaller tolerance, but
          I can promise you it's not exactly equal to either of your numbers.

10/25   To the person looking into NSF Fellowship.  The recommendations
        are due on 12/7, not 11/7 like the rest of the app.  Thus, you should
        have time to go and get your profs to fill out the correct form.

10/25   Anybody know what's happening with ucsee.eecs?  I haven't been able
        to log in for days.  Thanks.
        \_ they might be upgrading their machine.
           \_ or just retiring it.

10/25   How to find out if your life insurance covers death by anthrax?
        \_ I guess that'd depend on whether or not your policy covers
           terrorism and if your contraction is from an attack.

10/25   Cipro can cause tendon rupture:
        http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/lifestyles/html98/drug23_20000423.html
        \_ Cipro: the latest "cool" drug for the psychologically weak and ill.

10/25   What's the difference between the Home version and the Pro version of
        XP?
        \_ Pro supports SMP.
        \_ Pro also has the multi user terminal server stuff built in and a
           few other semi-minor things I can't recall.  And it costs more if
           you buy it.

10/23   motd restored (yeah it doesn't have england + terrorist thread,
        which was a bunch of non-sense anyhow)

10/23   I can't find this in the spec. What is the purpose of ejbPostCreate()?
        \_ Wasn't this asked like 2 weeks ago? I dont remember the answer
           though.
        \_ to set up relationships with other beans, acquire resources, etc

10/22   http://www.madblast.com/oska/humor_bin.swf

10/22   Uh, yeah, I love you too, babe.  Listen I got to go now.
        I'll call you later this week, okay?
        \_ Are you upgrading to a new computer and dumping the old one?
           How cruel...

10/21   Today is Jam Echelon Day!
        http://cipherwar.com/echelon/index2.htm

10/19   PacBell's WirePro costs $$$. Is that really necessary?
        \_ Send them email asking them to make it free.
        \_ you got an appt? landlords are responsible for inside wiring.
        besides, you can kick in wirepro the day before you need it.

10/19   in bc how to do calculate lg n, log n, etc? ln(y) n?
        \_ uh, run bc -l, then use the change-of-base formula with the natural
           log function (l) ...?
        \_ you only need natural log, ln.
                log10(x) = ln(x)/ln(10)

10/19   Do people EVER use ejbPostCreate after ejbCreate? It seems useless

10/19   Will the drubbings ever end?
        \_ Come hear, you!  Looks like you need more discipline!
           \_ Yes daddy!
           \_ YesDaddyDaddy!
           \_ looks like you need to learn how to spell.

10/19   What's the "best" anti-popup and/or ad-buster program out there
        for Windoze?
        \_ I use combination Guidescope (http://www.guidescope.com for ad busting
           (also does cookies - I don't use that part) and Pop-Up Stopper
           (http://www.panicware.com They work well together and I've never
           seen the X-10 ad. Before Guidescope I used Junkbuster.
        \_ I've tried webwasher (http://www.webwasher.com and it's alright.

10/17   Does anybody using freeamp experience frequent bus
        errors/segfaults?  What's the best way to avoid them?
        \_ is freeamp better than xmms?
        \_ I use x11amp. Works great.
           \_ http://www.x11amp.org doesn't seem to point me to an mp3 player...
                \_x11amp is old xmms
                  \_ so the old developers of x11amp didn't turn to the
                     more lucrative field of pr0n?
                     \_ nah, then it'd be xxx11amp
                        \_ have you seen http://www.x11amp.org

10/17   Fun Poll. Florida/NBC anthrax is sent by:
        a lone wacko (like the unibomber):      .
        bin-Laden associates:                   .
        Linus Torvalds                          .
        \_ For the last fucking time, it's Unabomber.  not "unibomber".
        bin-Laden associates:                   .
        Linus Torvalds                          .
        CIA                                     .
        \_ Because when the FBI can't solve a case, they turn to the CSUA motd.
           \_ "Survey says ......"

10/15   What ever happened to the three servicemen that raped a 12-year-old
        in Okinawa?
        \_ they were hired by yer mom

Iron Monkey reviewp
\_ I'm sure you can find it on video. It isn't a new movie.
\_ Save yourself from the tower of pain known as the metreon
   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/offering-page/ref=sdp_used_d/104-3752098-7396736?index=fixed-price&field-offering-type=used

In case there is a draft, are fat lazy out of shape sys admins exempt
from it?        -sysadm
\_ cannon fodder!
|_ KP Duty for you!
\_ Use them as bunker buster bombs.
        \_ http://www.google.com/search?q=okinawa+us+servicemen+rape+12
           \_ Only 7 years in jail for a systematic rape?  What a good deal we
              got!
              \_ "we got"?  *I* didn't rape anyone.
                 \_ Well, many people take it as a political case between US
                    and Japan.
                        \_  Many people jump off bridges too.  I take it as a
                            criminal case where some sickos need some serious
                            jail time and meds for life.
                            \_ Agreed.  And I think 7 years is too light.

10/14   BE MORE FUNNY.

10/13   Polaroid Files for Chapter 11.
        \_ So? How is this more motd worthy than Exodus, PG&E, Metricom,
           MarchFirst, Excite@Home or any of the other numerous bankruptcies?
                \_ it's newsworthy.  quit being so grumpy.
           \_ It isn't... they all made it in here too.

10/13   How many people are getting spam everyday from OptinRealBig,
        @arabia.com, @lists.postmastergeneral.com, @PCMarketingDirect.com,
        @postmasterglobal.com, and many others? How do you stop them?
        \_ I have a bunch of lines similar to the following in
           $HOME/.maildelivery: From <addr> destroy A -

10/12   two tickets to SF Opera's performance of Der Meistersinger,
        seats in Dress Circle 8pm Saturday, 13 Oct.  make reasonable offer.
        --Jon

10/12   http://faqs.org might be shutdown because of lack of funds for
        bandwidth:
        http://www.faqs.org/save_faqs-org.html
        Is there any way the cs or ee dept. would let us host it
        here?
        \_ they should turn part of it into a geek porn site to raise
           $$ "faqs" har har

10/12   All Taliban porn sites seem to be down. What happened? Could this be
        related to the recent US air strikes in Afganistan?

10/12   The drubbings will go on as long as they have to.

10/12   Oh great, now Microsoft is distributing anthrax in addition to
        flight sims with the WTC.

10/11   \_ thanks for the responses!
           Im using MySQL (pity me more) with no full outer join.
           I ended up first applying to both tables a (left) outer join with
           a temporary table containing all the values possible for the join
           condition. (b/c the cross join already doesnt contain the desired
           result). If anyone has more elegant suggestions for MySQL, pls
           tell. Thx-acheng
           [ reformatted ]

10/12   Poll. The next big terrorist act will be in:
        NYC:    ..
        Seattle:
        SF: .
        LA:
        Kabul: ..
        Wurster: .
        Washington DC: .
        SJ: (san jose? why there?)
        Florida .

10/12   My manager just got us a netra t1 and an x1. They have
        20 gig drives but the default parition table ignores
        most of the hd space. How do I go about creating a new
        parition with the extra space?
        \_ format ; newfs ; vi /etc/vfstab ; mount

10/11   can someone recomend a map company that sells maps of both accuracy
        and detail?  the USGS maps have great topography, but no roads to
        speak of, and most road maps i have ever bought are terribly
        innacurate. basically, i'm asking if there are any road map companies
        that acutally compile accurate data(i don't care about price.)
        [ reformatted ]
        \_ US or int'l?
           \_ US
              \_ The Thomas Brothers maps are great.  Once in a (long) while
                 in a particularly out-of-the way community with twisty hilly
                 roads they will get it wrong, but mostly they are near
                 perfect.
                 [ reformatted ]
        \_ Contact Jeppesen and NOAA

10/12   Are you an Evildoer?
        \_ That depends...are you a crop duster?
        \_ If your mom is Evil ... I guess I am!
        \_ I am the gatekeeper.

10/11   Anybody ever rented a cellphone for European travel? Did you get
        it here or there? Is it better to just pick up phone cards? How
        much does it cost? Thanks. -saarp
        \_ Just buy a phone and the sim card there, it's relatively cheap ~$50

10/11   In ntstatus.h, what's the difference between STATUS_NO_SUCH_DEVICE and
        STATUS_DEVICE_DOES_NOT_EXIST?  Thx.

10/11   I thought Bert was dead?
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011011/od/binladen_dc_4.html

10/11   To the poster who said CS enrollment is down 100, please
        provide a URL (proof). I hate rumors.
        \_ um. so like
           1. the web is not proof.
           2. I spoke to clancy, hightower, and harvey, maybe you
              heard of them?
                \_ um, yeah, like, I talked to Bin Laden last week and he
                   said he's gay. So what is your friggin point?
        \_ Dude! I heard it was down by more than that.
        \_ maybe they are disbanding the CS dept altogether
         \_ Nah, I heard it was going to be wrapped into the Geography Dept.

10/11   what ever happened to cyndi lauper and humpty from digital
        underground?
        \_ digital underground still performs.  http://www.shockg.com

10/11   I am fascinated by white trash culture.  Where is a good place
        to observe this culture in the rough?
        \_ Move into a trailer park.
        \_ Date a stripper, sleep with your mom, go on Jerry Springer.

10/10   How come csua's dns entry has propagated but www.csua's entry hasn't?
        \_ because you're impatient.

10/10   Neat ActiveX control from the NOAA that has a zoomable, high
        resolution, satelite image of the WTC disaster area:
        http://www.viewpoint.com/wtc/wtc_zoomview_popup.html
        \_ The perspective of the picture doesn't look like it was taken from
           a satellite.  More like from an airplane or helicopter.  --- yuen

10/9    When Binladen says he's gonna kill all the "white devils" does that
        mean he's gonna spare blacks, Latinos, and others?
        \_ the black muslims, maybe....
        \_ the white part most likely refers to the European, and its cultural
           descendent, the US.  White in this case does not specifically
           refers to the biology/genetic make up of the skin color, but
           to the culture and the people who have been Europeanized.  I
           don't see how he would discriminate, say, executing a racially
           black US soldier.

10/8    is there a good replacement for Evoice out there?

10/8    Why does chicken soup cure common cold?  (Or is it just a myth?)  Thx.
        \_ It doesn't.  You just fight it off.
        \_ chicken soup has a _little_ bit of penicilin in it. it doesn't
           help tho. (well except it is a warm liquid in your throat).
        \_ it has an expectorant in it that makes your mucus flow faster in
           your sinuses,  which helps them recover.  The warm steam vapor
           coming off of it helps too, if you inhale it.
        \_ as the first reply says, it doesn't.  your body cures itself.
           but chicken soup does help with 1) fluids 2) sustenance
           and 3) some symptoms (expectorant)
           \_ And 4) placebo.

10/7    when is geckos coming out for x86?

10/5    Our IP addresses are being moved, and our systems may become
        unreachable on Monday due to this. If you can't get through
        try later.

10/5    Our IP addresses are being moved, and

10/5    What's this code do? Someone is mailing it around. Might be ba'ad.
#include <stdio.h>
        \_ Put it in /tmp or something.

10/5    Regarding the message in motd.official on 10/4... Did you mean
        Vern Pax<S>on??

                                               .__
                           ______   ___________|  |
                           \____ \_/ __ \_  __ \  |
                           |  |_> >  ___/|  | \/  |__
                           |   __/ \___  >__|  |____/
                           |__|        \/     sucks!

10/4    General meeting scheduled for 10/12 2pm in 337 Soda. Vern Paxson will
        be speaking.  Big Brother will be watching.

10/5    I've come across the term l10n in documentation. What does it mean?
        [Please keep this thread here until end of 10/05 so I get all the
        answers (and sarcastic remarks)]
        \_ it's short for "localization" (L, followed by 10 letters, N)
           http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci212496,00.html
           \_ A closely related term is "i18n" -- internationalization
              \_ and there's "L12y", localizability.  these are the dumbest
                 abbreviations I've ever seen.
                \_ a11y = accessibility
                   g11n = globalization
        \_ pr0n == ???
           \_ thanks!
        \_ kinda like il8n ("internationalization")

10/5    "Sacconaghi's earnings estimates assume that Sun will cut its
        43,600-member workforce by 10 percent to 15 percent in the next month
        or two."
        http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/svtop/sun100501.htm
        \_ Sun announced 9% this morning.
         http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2001-10/sunflash.20011005.1.html

10/5    Has anyone noticed a huge traffic spam volume coming from
        <DEAD>lists.postmastergeneral.com<DEAD>, http://clearad.port5.com, <DEAD>pcmarketingdirect.com<DEAD>,
        <DEAD>ombramarketing.com<DEAD>, and http://vmadmin.com? How do you get off these
        lists?

10/5    Change your xterm title:
        echo "]0;$1"

08/21   What the fuck happened to the motd?
        \_ Some fucker fucked it up
                \_ terrorist?
                   \_ Patriot

10/4    Request for URL/localfile to good cell phone plan (~$30/mo) comparison.
        \_ http://www.point.com

10/3    Does anyone know if PacHell is planning on increasing the upstread
        bandwitch for folks who now have 1500/128Kbps DSL connections some
        time in future?
        \_ Telco + Bandwidth increase for free? Surely you jest.
        \_ why would they want to do that?

10/2    Should I install IE5.5sp2 or IE6 on my mom's Winblows98? BTW She
        is 58 years old and does not like Linux.
        \_ My preference is to not use any M$ product until sp1 or sp2
           is released.

10/2    How does one collect unemployment after graduating from UCB?
        [grammar g0d wuz here]
         \_ you need to have had a job first and have been layed
            off to get unemployment.  just graduating and not having
            a job and being poor doesn't automatically qualify you.
            there's a state website on it somewhere.
        \_ jeez... what a depressing post.
           \_ Suffering! ...

10/2    Anyone know how to get an ASN if you're a small organization?
        There seems to be this catch-22 thing going on where you need an ASN
        to get address space from ARIN, but you need an ASN to get address
        space.  Problem is, we probably can't request address space from ARIN
        because we're not likely to use a /20, which is the smallest space
        they'll issue. -dans
        \_ which begs the question of why you want an ASN?   You should be able
            to say 'we want to multihome with BGP, we need an ASN' to the arin
            and that should be enuf. -ERic
           \_ Apologies if I'm being dense here.  My routing fu is weak.
              From the ASN Request Template:
              ----
              One of the following conditions must be satisfied before
              receiving an ASN:
              a) Unique Routing Policy
                 Please explain how your routing policy is different from your
                 provider.

              b) Multi-homed Site
                 If your organization is currently multi-homed, please explain
                 exactly how you are connected to the Internet to include the
                 following information:
                 i)  Exterior gateway protocol to be used
                 ii) The IP network addresses that will make up your AS
                 iii)Technical point of contact information for each of
                     your upstream providers/peers should include:
                     full name
                     email address
                     for verification
              ----
              The problem is that we're not multi-homed yet.  We want to be.
              But we can't accomplish it until we get an AS.  Or do we qualify
              under clause a) ? - dans
                \_ yah that follows under clause A.  You might want to check
                    to see if your provider supports BGP based multihoming.
                    Many may not. It is also possible (but somewhat messy) to
                    multihome without BGP.  -ERic

9/27    General meetings scheduled for 10/31 and 11/xx in 337 and 306,
                                                 \_ Ok, this one isn't
                                                    firm yet.
        respectively, at 6:30. A third meeting will be announced later.
        Elections will be held in the meeting on the xxth.

9/23    Can anyone recommend a good book on serious power networking?
        I need to eek every last drop of bandwith I can and am looking for
        something that can give me some good ideas.

9/23    I need to replant the grass in part of my yard and I've been
        thinking about using seed rather than sod. Other than the fact
        that the grass will take longer to grow if I go the seed route
        are there any other differences? thnx.

9/23    did anyone find a replacement for evoice? - danh

9/23    Anyone know how to specify just 2 digits for the year instead of the
        default 4 digits in .scanfmt for scan (nmh)?
        \_ man mh-format

9/23    Anyone know how to count the nubmer of possible interleavings
        of two sets of N objects?
        \_ if by interleaving, you mean placing them in a line in any
           order, then the answer is easy it's (N+M)!
           if you mean elements of set 1 have to be adjacent to elements
           of set 2, then the answer is also easy: N!M!2. i think. -ali
           \_ Ok, I guess that was a bad statement of the problem. I think
              the best example of what I'm trying to say is: take 4 fingers
              on each hand; interleave them in all possible ways preserving
              the order on each hand but nothing else.
              \_ C(2N,N) (i.e. ((2N)!)/(N!^2)). -alexf

9/23    We sure have a lot of bombing to do:
        http://fas.org/irp/world/para/index.html
        \_ They forgot the Popular Front for the Liberation of Soda

9/22    A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll taken a few days after the attacks
        showed that Americans were supporting special measures intended for
        those of Arab descent. In the survey, 58 percent backed more intensive
        security checks for Arabs, including those who are United States
        citizens, compared with other travelers; 49 percent favored special
        identification cards for such people, and 32 percent backed "special
        surveillance" for them.
        \_ I love polls.  Here's your poll stated differently, "More than
           two thirds of Americans are opposed to any sort of 'special
           surveillance' for Arab-Americans, more than half were opposed to
           ID cards, and a near majority were opposed to any sort of security
           checks for those of Arab descent".  Polls are garbage.  Most are
           "push polls" with leading questions and no right answer which allow
           the poll taker to make whatever they want of the answers.  Ever been
           polled?  I have.  It was 20 minutes long and they could have had me
           saying *anything*.  "100% of csua members polled are in favor of
           deorbiting the moon to lower the price of cheese".
           \_ Ooh!  I'm for that.  -John

9/22    A good laugh
        http://www.sfredbook.net/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&omm=1&om=1784&forum=DCForumID8

9/22    http://www.austin360.com/aas/greig provides details on how the
        draft works these days.  No more endless deferments for college
        students.  If there's a draft, your ass is in the army after finals.
        Which reminds me: is ROTC still around on campus or they finally
        give up on Cal after their offices got destroyed again?
        \_ ROTC is still around, living in Hearst Gym.  -tom
        \_ Why/how/when did their offices get destroyed?
        \_ http://www.ulc.org  I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that
           ordained ministers are deferred.  -Rev. John

9/22    how does one escape the "dick in the jar"-type "friendship"?
        \_ do you mean "a dick in a glass case"?  being a platonic friend?
           \_ easily.  one just takes the girl off the pedestal he put her
              on, sees her for her faults; makes  a move, and if she says
              no, he moves on to another girl.  I believe i put it once:
               "You say it's good we're only friends...
                ..well all good things come to an end."
           \_ by having friendship with someone you're not interested in?
              if you're interested, pursue it, or live with it.
                      "when one burns one's bridges,
                       what a very nice fire it makes."
                                 --ok tnx, dylan thomas
        \_ I haven't had much luck with penis pumps.

9/21    [Suppression message suppressed]

9/21    Anybody here taken the notory public exam?  I'm going to take it and
        I'm thinking if I can wing it.  Do I really need to take a class or buy
        some of those study aid books to pass this?  Thanks.
        \_ I recommend taking at least a couple of lessons so that you don't
           bomb it on the first question, "How many o's are there in the word
           'notary'?"

9/21    Suppressed.

9/21    Investors are cowardly traitors:
        http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-000075190sep19.column?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dcomment%2Dopinions

9/21    Who was looking for the asian-looking pron star who was on the
        Howard Stern Show awhile back? Did u find her name? Is it linn thomas?
        \_ thomas hasn't done any porn (that i'm aware of).
        \_ It was me.  I saw Linn Thomas in Howard Stern Show a few nights ago
           too, but no she wasn't the one.  The one I was looking for had a
           cuter face.  It wasn't the Howard Stern Show when I saw her on TV.
           I still haven't found her name yet. :-(
           \_ Check archives on http://www.bomis.com
              \_ Okay.

9/21    can anyone recommend a good book on group theory?
        \_ please be more specific --- which aspects of group theory?

9/21    A delete for a delete, and the whole world gets deleted.
        \_ nothin like a clean slate
           \_ Like taking a huge shit.

9/20    So what is the big deal about Lord of the Rings? I've tried to the
        read the books, but they seem to be quite awful.
        \_ I heard the first book he wrote was the only good one.
           \- dont you think if you havent read any of the books or dont
              have a real opinion, you should give this thread a pass? --psb

9/20    "Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our
        enemies, justice will be done.  Amen."
        \_ Amen, brother.

9/20    I burnm my tuhng
        \_ Sucks for you... or perhaps not.

9/20    Anyone have details on the Guinness & Oysters fest this Saturday?

9/20    "If someone were to stand up,brandish something such as a plastic
        knife and say 'This is a hijacking' or words to that effect here
        is what you should do: Every one of you should stand up and
        immediately throw things at that person - pillows, books,
        magazines, eyeglasses, shoes -anything that will throw him off
        balance and distract his attention. If he has a confederate or
        two, do the same with them. Most important: get a blanket over
        him, then wrestle him to floor and keep him there. We'll land the
        plane at the nearest airport and the authorities will take it
        from there." "Remember, there will be one of him and maybe a few
        confederates, but there are 200 of you. You can overwhelm them.
        "The Declaration of Independence says 'We, the people' and that's
        just what it is when we're up in the air: we, the people, vs.
        would-be terrorists. I don't think we are going to have any such
        problem today or tomorrow or for a while, but some time down the
        road, it is going to happen again and I want you to know what to
        do.  "Now, since we're a family for the new few hours, I'll ask
        you to turn to the person next to you, introduce yourself, tell
        them a little about yourself and ask them to do the same."
        \_ This was all covered in a motd poll. There is universal
           agreement that the passengers have to disarm and subdue
           the hijacker(s) without regard to personal safety.
           Everybody has to go sometime...
           \_ Something is obviously wrong with your model -- most attempted
              hijackings succeed if the hijcakers are organized and
              reasonably sane/collected.
           \_ What if the hijacker's immediate goal is something else other
              than killing everyone on board?  Like in the old days where
              hijackers demanded some money or flying to some other country or
              the release of someone from prison?  -- yuen

9/20    Would somebody please repost the salon story to the effect of
        "you can't bomb it back to the stone age, it's already there"?
        It was written by a Afghani emmigrant.
                \_Ever heard of google dumbass?
        \_ grep salon ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v

9/19    How do you find out who's behind the admission committee?
        \_ You ask.
           \_ Who do you ask?
        \_ Which admission committee?
           \_ school admission committee

9/19    Compare your salary to celebs/CEOs:
        http://www.salary.com/salarytimer/layoutscripts/stml_celeb.asp
        The realtime Burg-o-meter is especially illuminating.

9/19    Anyone else find the Subway TV ad tasteless?
        \_ Right here. What a shameless act of opportunism.
        \_ I think they should have donated the money instead.  How much was
           the ad likely to cost?
        \_ I think they should have donated the money instead.

9/19    they're going to dub the war on terrorism "Infinite Justice." Who came
        up with that?  Stan Lee? "Terrorists are cowardly, superstitious lot..."
        \_ it's got this great logo thing though!
           http://www.cnn.com/images/0109/txtop6.operation.justice.jpg -dwc
        \_ it's to go along with Operation Infinite Rhetoric and Operation
           Infinite Replays of the WTC Blowing Up.
        \_ More tasteful than Operation Final Solution.
        \_ Operation Exterminate Those and Those Harboring Them

9/19    Anyone use webalizer with rotatelogs?  Webalizer seems
        to want a static log name even if using -p.  Anyone have
        a work around for this?
        \_ perl
           \_ umm, yeah, i figured something like that.  I was hoping someone
              would generously volunteer their script.

9/19    Should be required reading for all sports fans, we are witnessing
        history: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/20010918doctoring.html

9/18    Please sign the petition to prevent a delay on MGS2:

        http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?Kyle
        \_ release date unchanged.
        http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,913941,00.html

9/18    Man, you people surf the web too much. Link link link, blah blah.
        Get back to work!!

9/18    I thought this was interesting, nuke it if it's too long.
        \_ it's too long for the motd.

9/18    this week's sot installment is the best there is yet:
        http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=6320
        \_ get a life, cmlee
        \_ "Taste - use erotic foods; taste your own fluids."  YUCKS!
           \_ Get a clue.
        \_ Does that encourage people of even more isolation from the society?
           \- who exactly is the target audience of this column? --psb
              \_ Since it's the Daily Cal, I'd guess it's the students.
        \_ Her last name is "Manlove". Haha. --dim

9/18    Would I expect performance gain by using multiple BufferedInputStream,
        and if so, how much? What is its the upper limit?
        \_ Why would you expect this. I don't think BIS is doing what
           you think it is doing. Look at the source.

9/18    So, here's an example of wonderful reaction to the crisis (sarcasm):
        http://www.98rock.com/audio/shoot.exe (from  http://www.98rock.com
        \_ Virus alert.
        \_ This site is really disturbing... they have an "in house tribute
           to the victim's & family's" in the form of an mp3 of Judas Priest's
           "You've got another thing comin." <drawl>God bless america.</drawl>
           \_ Welcome to florida.
           "You've got another thing comin'". God bless america.

9/16    Anyone know how to turn of non-printing text in M$ Word 97-98?
        I'm editing this doc that has a bunch of publishing directives
        in and I'd like to view just the text, not the directives. No
        I cannot use StarOffice or ApplixWare or whatever, it  has to
        be Word. tia.
        \_ Tools...Preferences...Nonprinting characters.  -tom

9/16    The devil did it! ...scroll down to see "pictures of his face"
        in the smoke:
        <DEAD>www.artbell.com/letters21.html<DEAD>
        \_ you sure that's not Elvis?  -tom
        \_ who cares. http://www.snopes2.com/spoons/photos/wtcface.htm

9/17    Has anyone noticed that the bartenders working the upstairs
        bar at 555 Barnevald are the rudest in the city?

9/17    Has anyone noticed that the bartenders working the upstairs
        bar at 550 Barneveld are the rudest in the city?

 9/17  M$ Q:anyone know how to span multiple files in one microsoft word?
       e.g. I have something over 100 pages, that's too big, so I want to
       break it up into 10 different chapters, each in different files, but
       somehow all linked together?

9/15    It's the ACLU's fault:
        http://www.pfaw.org/news/press//2001-09-13.320.phtml

9/16    US plans to retaliate against 60 nations:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1547000/1547561.s
tm

9/15    tribute.to

9/16    this photo makes me ill: http://www.cheerfulcynic.com/wtc69.jpg

9/14       First post!

9/14    Paolo, you're a fucking nimrod. -ali

9/14    rm /bin/ladin

9/14    Fiat lux? Lighten up is more like it.
        \_ Ex Cathedra is more appropriate in this case.

9/15    link:www.miami.com/herald/content/features/columnists/pitts/digdocs/000565.htm