7/25    Is there a way to tell etags to generate tag entries for function
        prototypes in .h files?  I have some function prototypes in some .h
        files which I don't have the corresponding .c files containing the
        actual function.  (It's the NT DDK.)  Right now I can only tag the
        #define's and typedefs, but not the function prototypes.  Thanks.
        (BTW I can't tag any enum values either, although I can tag the enum
        types.)  --- yuen

7/25    my head hurts.

7/25    Does the motd have to be refreshed so often?  There are some who
        log in once a day or less.
        \_ I do believe you miss the entire point.
        \_ Most of it is crap. Don't worry.
           \_ See above thread...

7/24    Why do I seem to get frighteningly horny just sitting reading at my
        desk about this time of the afternoon some days?
        \_ What are you reading?

7/24    I want to write a program to intercept download clicks (just
        like what GetRight does).  Does anyone know how to do it in
        Visual C++?
        \_ If we knew what you mean by "intercept download clicks",
           we might be able to help you.
           \_ It involves the "Internet".

7/23    try http://www.teoma.com it's better than google.
        \_ Yes, we read /.
           \_ Not of all us are 'l337 /.ers like j00.

7/23    he just can't keep his mouth fucking shut, can he?
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010723/ts/pope_bush_dc_4.html
        \_  Exactly what offends you?
        \_ Dubya isn't one of my favorite people, but I'm puzzled what it is
           that you find upsetting.  Can you clarify your point of view?
           \_ Maybe he's talking about the pope.  -tom

7/22    Isn't the motd so much more interesting when paolo is deleting it?
        \_ Why does he keep doing this?
          \_ hey, how about you impeach him?

7/20    [Don't ever get married, or talk about getting married.]

7/20    [Fry's sucks.]
        \_ They are still better than ChumpUSA.

7/21    Watch out SquareSoft and Ms. Aki Ross, the Lego's are coming:
        http://www.ifilm.com/db/static_text/0,1699,17692,00.html
        \_ are there any dr. aki ross dolls?
           \_ http://www.realdoll.com
              \_ only a sick sodan would want a inflatable aki ross
                 doll.

7/20    Why can't we all just get along?
        \_ because yer a moron.
           \_ so is yermom

7/20    Oh no!  There was content in the motd!  better delete it!

7/20    Hacked by Chinese!!! For great justice!
        \_ All your web sites are belong to us! - Chrmn Mao

7/19    Damn you kinney.
        \_ Why is clipping kinney an issue? He isn't even a user!
           \_ uh, ls /home/apollo/kinney/.nofinger

PRESENTING FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE, FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY,
THE MOSTLY-COMPLETE SAGA OF KINNEYDRIVEL.
\_ who's nightmare are we in?  A motd filled with kinney's rants.

7/19    MUST ... CONTROL ... FIST ... OF DELETION ...

6/15    Why did all the dot coms get all the exposure- everyone was faked
        out that this was a new industry. It isn't- the whole industry is
        just like a utility ( your phone. water. gas. electric )

PRESENTING FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE, FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY,
THE MOSTLY-COMPLETE SAGA OF KINNEYDRIVEL.

7/19    Anyone know where I can find "The List"... that list of shows
        in the bay area? I used to read all the time about 4 years ago
        but I'm not sure if it still exists or how to find it. thanks.
        \_ Do people even bother looking stuff like this up themselves before
           asking? It popped right up in a search:
           http://velox.stanford.edu/~sidirop/theList.html --dim

7/19    How do daemons like sshd get/store their own pid?  Does XDM/KDM
        do something similar, and if so, how can I get my hands on that
        pid?
        \_ getpid()?

7/19    what's this mumbo jumbo about people not being able to read while they
        dream?  I've done it (or I think I've done it) numerous times.  Heck,
        I even had dreams about parsing when I took 164 with Hilfinger.
        \_ Never heard of that one, but one thing I can't do in dreams is run
           fast. It always seems like I'm running through molasses.
           \_ Same for me!  I didn't know this is common to everyone.
        \_ I've dreamt of reading quite often. I didn't know that
           I couldn't do that.
        \_ I think the issue is that there's no text permanence in dreams;
           you can read but if you read the same thing twice it won't say
           the same thing.  they say it's one test you can use if you're
           trying to lucid dream.  -tom
           \_ This is not true. I remember reading Julius Caesar in my
              dreams and the text is always the same. The same is true
              for passages from Deep C Secrets, TCP/IP Illustrated etc.

7/18    [here there was kinneydrivel]
        \_ you guys are fast. did you write an automatic kinneydrivel filter?
           i actually enjoyed the last two drivels.

7/18    I found out that one of my co-workers is a member of a new
        anti-government militia somewhere in Modesto. What should
        I do?
        \_ Join the militia and inform to the government for money!
        \_ hi troll.  How about giving him some money and saying:
           "use this to buy weapons to fight cowardly, fascist twits
            like me." He'll love you for it.
            \- I recently found out a person who came to my office to
            talk to me was a randoid. I suggest having a "conversation"
            with them per: http://ux8.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Argue.txt
            \_ psb? as in... psb?

7/18    Thanks Yuen.  My load average is back to the .57 is should be.

7/18    [no, "bang" is not a comment, even if you think the url name
         is descriptive. it is not descriptive. url deleted.]
        \_ You idiotic BASTARD. It was a GREAT URL, the URL name IS
           descriptive, and you're a total ass for deleting it. The
           description is: Swedish Bikini Team participates in sport
           shooting events, and the URL is:
                http://www.sportshooter.com/events/swedishbikinis.htm
           Delete THAT, you chump.

7/17    tom, have you graduated?

7/18    Death isn't fatal <TM>.
        \_ go to the cemetary on dia de los muertos.  See the crying
           widows.  Tell them of your wisdom.

7/17    Polling the newgrads who graduated in may.  Were you able to get jobs?
        The market is cooling and and I've been hearing CS/EECS majors looking
        for work after graduation. As opposed to getting 10 offers before
        you graduated.  Is this true?  Thanks.
        \_ I graduated a year ago and only got one offer. But unlike those
           who got 10 offers, I still have my job in addition to generous
           raises and bonuses. It pays to avoid the dot-coms.

7/17    Does anyone here run squid in a chroot jail? I'm trying figure
        out how to get this running, but the docs are not too helpful.

7/17    What happened to ~sky's homepage?  It's all different now and his gf's
        pics are gone.  Is this a different ~sky from before?
        \_ He's moved on. So should you.

7/16    Gee, someone deleted the Paolo-motd-deletion discussion.  Is Paolo
        really that insecure and transparent?

7/16    KinneyDrivel(tm) deleted yet again.
        \_ No match for "KINNEYDRIVEL.COM". -geordan

7/14    Only the federal government can own land.  Bye bye America....
        http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a391dbe87452e.htm
        \_ you've got to love words like "protestations"
        \_ The government is getting to be a too big for its own
           good. Perhaps its time for another revolution.

7/14    Who has been teaching cs186 the last few years?  has Stonebraker
        ever taught cs186?

7/13    More proof that Europeans are [...]: look at the cheesecake vs
        rating correlation on amihotornot.de

7/12       \_ Hey tom, why is it unsafe to move logs out from under Apache
              if you restart it?  Also, restarting Apache takes something
              on the order of seconds, so the disruption of service is
              nigh-invisble, is it not?
              - Rotates logs manually and restarts Apache
                \_ It depends what you're serving.  If someone is downloading
                   a big file, for example, either their download will hold up
                   the server respawning, or the download will be killed when
                   you restart.  If you have only small content and don't
                   care if you occasionally serve broken images or pages,
                   it's not so bad.  Still, it doesn't cost much to do it
                   right.  -tom
                   \_  I ran an app that was using jserv, and stopping and
                       restarting apache was a major pain.  rotatelogs was
                       the best solution.  -ERic
                       \_ Oh god yes.  Also, if you have 5k connections at
                          once, it sucks.  I like cronolog better, though.

7/12    Final Fantasy SUCKED, but it was pretty.
        \_ was it the lack of motion capture or plot?
        \_ Bad things: All human animation (some looked motion captured,
           most didn't), story, plot, writing and dialogue, cheesy
           sound f/x & score, non-sensical actions taken by characters.
           Good thing: Really Pretty.
                \_ Thanks for the advance review.  I knew it was going to
                   suck.   If anybody already has it as a big mpeg, please
                   post the ftp site below here:
                \_ actually with the exception of the hands on the models
                   it was entirely mocaped

7/12    Caucasian chicks are special. They are the cross between
        Greek goddesses and the Amazon Warrior. I am ready to do battle with
        them..
        \_ rEADy tO tASTe sOMe aMAZOn sTeeL?!
        \_ paolo is that you?
        \_ gratuitous H07 AZN CHX comment

7/12    Poll-- Harry Kim in Startrek is:
        a stud:
        a geek:
        This poll is utterly stupid, please delete it: .

7/11    Family Guy returns tonight.
        \_ But nothing tops The Weakest Link. Anne Robinson's my baby!
           \_ you ARE the weakest link.  goodbye.

7/11    I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE
        \_ Yeah?  So does yer mom!
        \_ Nothing expects long orange ethernet cables.

7/11    Don't piss off the Feds
        http://serendipity.magnet.ch/waco.html
        \_ it makes lots of claims that the FBI 'deliberately murdered' them,
           yet makes no attempt to suggest a motive for why they would
           do so.

5:50pm  Can't someone with more motd fu than me find out who has been
        nuking it so much and publicly humiliate them?

7/11    kchang is that you?

7/11    Powerpuff Girls!

7/11          \_ I don't understand your disdain for english majors, psb.
              Personally, i've never met an english major who didn't know
              who Joyce was. I have, on the other hand, met engineers who
              didn't know who Euler was. Is that any less reprehensible?
              \_ I'd like to comment on your analogy.  As an engineer, the
                 important thing is to be able to *do* stuff, which
                 requires, for most engineers, that you know some math
                 that was discovered by Euler.  While I think it would be
                 nice for technical people to take an interest in the
                 history of the ideas they need, you don't need to know
                 who Euler was to be comfortable with differential equations,
                 but if you know lots of history and can't integrate,
                 you are a totally incompetent engineer.
              \-1. i said a lot of english majors probably would not
              be able to tell you who Stephen Daedulus was without
              context, not James Joyce.  2. the filtering criteria to
              get into english is a lot lower than to get into EECS.
              3. i think a lot more people come to ucb for a degree
              stamp and end up in english rather than just people
              committed to language and lit ... i dont think a lot of
              people come to berkeley with the idea of going to law
              school and just casually decide to major in physics.
              4. the names of people is less important in engineering
              than english.  you can know what cos + i sin \theta is
              without knowing euler, but it is sort of hard to know
              much about moby dick without knowing it was written by
              melville --psb
              \_ you could read it and think about the ideas without
                 knowing anything about Melville, though.  I think a person
                 who has worked at sea will understand alot more about that
                 book than someone who listens to a bunch of whiney
                 cal freshman overanalyze it.  my point being that you dont
                 learn about literature by going to college,which is not really
                 in opposition to what you're saying, i think.
                 \- well i suppose you "could" however you would be missing
                 a lot of essential stuff. to take an example i am more
                 familar with, say the Iliad, there are some interps of
                 homer that are definitely wrong which may seem reasonable if
                 you are unaware various notions of greek society and the
                 nature of improvisational oral composition. so as the person
                 above sugests, a work of literature is much more a product of
                 it's circumstances than a result in math or physics. ohm's
                 law would be ohm's law regardless wheher it came from germany
                 or china. however, a chinese old man and the sea would
                 probably quite different from hemingway's. in spite of all
                 the crap about knots in MD, i dont think knowing how to sail
                 is the key to MD. probably more important to know your bible,
                 shakespeare etc. --psb

7/10    I need to send a plain text email attachment with a command
        line tool.  Recommendation?  (mpack didn't work, as suggested
        before).
        \_ What happenned when you tried mpack?

7/10    I was talking to some of the other engineers in my group
        today and happened to mention that one of them reminds me
        of that luser Stephen Daedalus (sp?) (Portrait of an
        Artist). Not a single one of them had heard of Portrait or
        of James Joyce. I was shocked. Joyce, Hemmingway, and other
        "modernists" were required reading when I was in HS, but
        no one else had ever read a single book by any modernist.
        Was my HS just wierd (I went to school in the south bay)
        or are the other engineers in my group simply uneducated?
        \_ I was reading some post on the motd from some engineer today, and
           he happened to misspell a common word such as "weird."  I was
           shocked.  Learning how to spell was a requirement when I was in
           school, but apparently no one else uses a dictionary (or even the
           "dict" program).  Was my school just weird, or are these other
           engineers simply uneducated?
           \- well there's always a certain amount of ratcheting involved in
           these kinds of situations. i doubt most sloda users could tell you
           without context who stephen daedalus was ... and for all i know,
           neither could half the english majors. i suppose this is partially
           a consequence of not assinging "the classics" because for fear the
           students "cant relate" to the classics and instead assigning things
           like batman graphic novels and star trek novels [i am not making
           this up] in ucb english classes. i am surprised they havent heard
           of joyce, although not surprised they haent read him. these people
           are a major find however; it is fun to have conversations with
           them like "what do you think is the greatest novel of the 20th cent"
           i think you will find a good number of people out in the real world
           who dont read 3 books in a year. ok tnx --psb
        \_ how can anyone place joyce and hemingway in the same category of
           writers?
        \_ Actually most engineers have heard of Hemingway and Joyce.  Most
           have even read a book or two by Hemingway, and usually find them
           a little silly.  As for Joyce, he is just a good con artist with
           a very large vocabulary.  Engineers see through that right away.

07/09   In MFC CRichEditCtrl, EM_GETLINECOUNT returns the line count.
        Anybody knows how to get the WORDCOUNT?

7/9     so long webvan, and thanks for all the fish.

7/9     ps only shows a limited number of characters (80 if i remember the
        man page correctly) of the command being run.  What should i do if
        i want to see the entire command?
        \_ RTFM
        \_ ps www
           \_ i should have specified, i'm on solaris (no w).
              \_ /usr/ucb/ps

7/9     ~ilyas/pub/hat_problem.txt.
        \_ Don't post a solution URL, please.  If you know the answer, don't
           spoil it for others.
           \_ wtf? how is that ruining it for others? you don't have to go
              there!
        \_ "and must simultaneously guess the colors of their respective hats.
            If the following condition holds, they share a $3 million price:  At
            least one person guesses correctly, and no one guesses incorrectly."
             The first four words quoted above imply that all must guess. the
             "condition" implies that all need not guess.  Which is it?
                \_ Statement of the problem fixed, thank you. -- original poster

 _____ _   _  ____ _  __
|  ___| | | |/ ___| |/ /
| |_  | | | | |   | ' /
|  _| | |_| | |___| . \
|_|    \___/ \____|_|\_\

        \_ There's no date on this post...what gives?

07/08   Is there an easy way to get CEdit/CRichEdit to extract word/line count
        in MFC?

07/07   Anyone knows what happened to http://enews.com?

4/5     [Crap deleted.  Happy post July 4th.]

7/3     If FOO is mx 0ed to BAR and BAR is mx 10ed to BAZ, but FOO is MX10ed
        to QUUX, where will mail for FOO go when BAR is down?  BAZ or QUUX?
        BAZ I assume, but it is legal to have the pointer to QUUX?
        \_ Mail will go to QUUX, think about it.
        \_ One things to note, MX records are not recursive.

7/2     new ricochet asynch plan: 64Kb down/32Kb up $40/mo bay area only.
        Granted, for that price, you get the full 128Kb in san diego.
        \_ this is because San Diego natives have a healthy sense of
           "FUCK YOU, I'M NOT SPENDING ALL DAY INDOORS."
        \_ They just filed for bankruptcy.
        \_ That's not much faster than a 56Kb modem.
           \_ But this is better than the previously available speeds.

7/2     What are knee braces used for? If I have something like a cramp in my
        knee (hurts a little when I bend my knee), would walking around in a
        knee brace help?
        \_ Go see a doctor. In the meantime, wear the brace and drink
           more water.
        \_ ice and heat. rinse repeat.
        \_ A brace is for more serious injuries...for now, do what they
           said wear one of those cuffs made from that thick spandex-like
           stretchy stuff.
           \_ I never understood what these did. What is the benefit to my
              knee of wrapping it in some tight material?

7/1     http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010630/od/speedtrap_dc_1.html
        Shweet.

7/1     screen v3.9.9 installed as screen-3.9.9+idle; please try it out,
        and let me know if anything goes wrong.  The new version of screen
        will become the default next time soda reboots.  --mconst

7/1     Dude...the kit kat club ROCKS!
        \_ Is this the one near Mathilda? I'm going to Vegas tomorrow,
           maybe will check out this place  called Olympic Garden or sumthin'
           Anyone know if there's sucha place?

6/29 [10:50 PM]   I can't believe I'm still stuck at work on the friday before
                  "summer vacation".  I was supposed to be at home playing
                  Curse of Monkey Island, but no, everybody else had to leave
                  because of thier flights and I'm stuck here fixing thier
                  shitty broken code desperately trying to ship our beta.
                  It would be one thing if this my code (the low level net
                  and cyrpto stuff), but its the shitty php ui! PHP UI! $(%#*!
                  I can't believe I work with such a bunch of undedicated idiots
                  Since the obviously care more about their personal lives than
                  being employed, I'm going to recommend them all for "voluntary
                  attrition" at the next company meeting. I guess the bright
                  side is that I'll be getting the entire bonus for our group
                  this quarter. On second thought, I'll wait till after they
                  see me recieve the only bonus check before recommending them
                  for "voluntary attrition".
                        \where do you work? -nesim
                  \_ Get a life, nerdboy.  Go home and try to lose some weight.
                  \_ He has a life. He plays Curse of Monkey Island.
                  \_ sounds like either you or your manager didn't manage your
                     time effectively - and now you're using the geek "work
                     all night all day i'm a mole in soda hall" cliche.  Lives
                     are good things that all people should have.
                     I should mention that i mean "you" in the plural, you
                     may have not wasted time at all, but obviously your dev
                     team was not working to full efficiency.  This is probably
                     due to the mgmt not understanding the technology enough to
                     feel comfortable enforcing sub-project due dates. - paolo
                     \_ It is more likely that management is so clueless
                        that they don't understand what a project sub-date
                        even means. -ausman

6/30    YOU SPOONY BARD!        -Tellah

6/29    Cory hall is on fire.
        \_ BFD is there right now.

6/28    All in all not a good week for Linux and related companies:
        http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010627/law086.html
        \_ Nice use of the complex question. You're conjoining two
           things that have nothing to do with each other (at least
           not directly). Most Transmeta chips run Windows laptops.
        \_ class action suit complaining that internet investors are stupid.
        \_ no shit you fucking cunt, of course this doesn't bother you
           because "as long as it's not freebsd I don't care"

6/28    Any grad students need a research assistant?  What's the
        best way to get in contact with you?
        \_ by sucking cock.

B

6/28    M$ Sued for patent violations:
        http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/11609.html

6/28    Requiescat In Pacem -- Jack Lemmon (1925-2001)

6/28    [ k1nn3y cl34nup cr3w wuz h3r3 ]

6/27    I want to join an organized crime syndicate. How do I do this?
        \_ 1 800 MICR0SOFT, ask for Services
           \_ That's 1 800 RU LEGIT D00D!
        \_ You're already part of one. The fearsome motd.public mob.
        \_ You might try to find the JLCs.  They are based in Jack London
           square, and were looking for more members a month ago.

6/27    Anybody know if those 10-10-xxx numbers work for local toll calls?
        Pac Bell is charging me an arm and a leg and I don't want to switch
        to MCI or other local toll provider.  Thanks.  (My cell phone reception
        sucks at my house otherwise I wouldn't have this problem.)
        \_ They work as long as the company code that you're dialing (which
           is what a 1010XXX number is) corresponds to a company that supports
           local calls. If you're not sure, check with that company.

6/27    Our own nweaver gets coverage on Yahoo!:
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010625/tc/fea_hobbies_compubug_avoiding_ads_1.html
        Its too bad he didn't metion something cooler like JunkBuster
        though.

6/26    Oh well!  No more 20% discounts at amazon.... guess i'm not
        shopping there anymore.  Barnes & Noble all the way!
        \_ but free shipping

6/26    Overdue library books? Better return 'em quick!
        http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0106/26_two-ap.html

6/26    [ yet more drivel purged. ]

6/26    [ Drivel Deleted ]
        \_ what a bad ass CS course: http://cs.colgate.edu/cslabs/cs303
           \_ I can't believe they give out degrees to people who take
              classes like this.

[ Older portions of the motd purged ]

6/26    Even zebras can get desperate:
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010626/od/pony_dc_1.html
        \_ quiz: can tigers breed with lions?
           \_ Of course.  Ligers...

6/26    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates2/lat_single010626.htm
        They still defined a good catch as a man with "three highs": higher
        education, high income and height.  ... Chikako Ogura of Aichi
        Shukutoku University says the new standard is the "three Cs":
        financially comfortable, emotionally communicative and cooperative in
        housework and child care.
        \_ that's five Cs

6/25    [url with comments deleted]

6/25    [url with useless comment "discuss" delete.]

6/25    alpha, r.i.p.

6/25    Why does Win2k include both mplay32.exe and mplayer2.exe?  Isn't the
        latter a newer version of the same app?  Is there anything that the
        former can do but the latter can't?
        \_ yes.  the old mplay32 allowed you to select a section to copy, which
           for some reason or another mplayer2 does not (most likely because
           it's almost totally useless, and anyone who wants to do AV
           editing wouldn't be using WMP)

6/25    God fucking dammit people get it right. It's 1337, not 7337. If you want
        to see some 7337s, go ask yermom.
        \_ i dub thee motdwanker.
        \_ As I understand the "cyper", shouldn't it actually be ELITE -> 31173?
           (E -> 3; L,I -> 1; T -> 7)
           \_ [ Followup inadvertently deleted, something to the effect
                that 31337 people don't use I's ]
           \_ no, it should be 1337.

6/25    RIP Alpha:
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010625/tc/tech_compaq_intel_dc_2.html
        \_ I guess the future now belongs to x86-64, PPC/Power4 and US3/4.
           Personally, I'm betting on AMD.

6/24    I'm looking for one word that have the same rough meaning as
        "making a difference".  Meaning making a difference in the community,
        environmentally, etc.  I thought of "helpfulness" or "benevolensce",
        or "charitable" but they don't quite capture what I mean.  Thanks.
        \_ altruism?
        \_ The reason you are having difficulty is because the term you trying
           to capture is meaningless.  You are trying to logically define the
           centerpiece of leftist propaganda.  You are either a very
           sophisticated troll or a moron.
        \_ humanitarian?
        \_ Republican?

6/24    What's the correct spelling of "elite"? 1337? 31337?
        \_ leet

6/22    What's the word out there on FuckedCompany vs. VeryFuckedCompany?
        Which is better?
        \_ <DEAD>weboththefuckedCompany.com<DEAD>

6/21    Chronicle made an interesting typo.  Instead of
        http://www.hotfiles.com the chronicle system hyphenated the site
        to http://www.hot-files.com a raunchy porn site.  They got lots
        of unhappy readers.
        \_ tee hee hee!
           \_ Cheri?  Is that you?
              \_ tom? Is that you?

6/21    R.I.P. Archie Bunker

6/21    A good read on freedom
        http://www.myplanet.net/jeffhead/dadmisc/gritz.htm
        \_ RETURN TO THE "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" WEB SITE

6/21    "Center of the World".  You love this movie.  You live this movie.
        \_ What's it about?

6/20    What's the best place to learn the oh-so-confusing DataInputStream,
        FileInputStream, Stream, InputStream, BufferedDataInputStream, so on
        so forth?
        \_ the javadoc
        \_ Learn how to use shell piping.

6/20    Yet another good piece on why Kyoto is a bad idea:
        http://opinionjournal.com/columnists/pdupont
        \_ TEXAS. TEXAS IS THE STANDARD!
        \_ Not another one of these "during my daily anti-environmental
           google searches I came across this URL" postings again. I
           can already point out several things wrong about the way
           this author makes his point: fallacy from ignorance,
           prejudicial language, anonymous authority, false analogy,
           fallacy of exclusion, an so on.
           \_ I wasn't googling, I read this in The Journal (perhaps
              the last honest paper left in the world, even the WP
              has started liberal appeasement).
        \_ beachfront property in nevada
           \_ ever heard of lake tahoe?

6/19    YADHQ: In DH, when you pick the random exponents x and y, are
        there any requirements on the range for these values? It seems
        to me be bigger the range the more secure the session key will
        be, but as far as I can tell there isn't anything in Applied
        Crypto on this.

6/18    If I got laid off today, I would:
        look for a new job:     ..
                                 \_ That's because I need to support my
                                    parents.
        vacation:               .
        go back to school:      .
        \_ If I got laid today, I would:

           post on the motd about it:   .
        \_ aren't these the same thing?

6/17    [Discussion on HB1B Visas censored]

6/18    [Rant mentioning George Soros and leveraged buy outs censored]

6/17    [Discussion on HB1B Visas censored.]

6/18    [Threats to Larry Ellison censored]

6/18    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-BRF-Power-Blackout-Warnings.html -sleepless in 'nam

6/17       [REPOST] Anyone know of a good introduction to the Gell-Mann
           8 Fold Way that can be understood by a engineering grad (7
           series plus one ud phyics class and one ud math class)?

 /___\ /___\   |_|
| |_| | |_| ||_  |
| | | | | | | _| |
 \ _ / \ _ /___  |
  ___   ___ _____   ____         _          _____                  _
 / ___| ___   | |_ ___   |_   _|____  ____ _ ___| |
| |  _ / _ \  | __/ _ \    | |/ _ \ \/ / _` / __| |
| |_| | (_) | | || (_) |   | |  __/>  < (_| \__ \_|
 \____|\___/   \__\___/    |_|\___/_/\_\__,_|___(_)

6/17    I'm looking for a decent introduction to the Gell-Mann 8-Fold
        Way. Any recommendations for books?

6/16    "A kiss is more than a mutually agreed-upon exchange of
        saliva, breath and germs."
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8545-2001Jun15.html

06/15   [MOTD entry size limit exceeded. Segmentation fault (core dumped).]

TEXAS! TEXAS WILL SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS!

nuked by mistake, will restore..
\_ You'll pay for this, you nosy kids!

6/15    Unisys apologizes for the computer:
        http://cnnfn.cnn.com/2001/06/14/technology/unisys

6/15    motdwanker /moht-dee-wahn-ker/ 1. n. person who comments on a subject
        on the motd having never had any first hand experience with that
        subject.  See also { "talking out of ass" (vulg.), "virgin", (n.) }
        \_ Doh!

6/14    Halo, Apa Kabar?

6/14    Remember: you're never sad when you're happy! So be happy!
        Happiness makes everything better.
        \_ fuck you too, with a double fist, you fucking cunt.
           \_ Let's turn that frown upside down! SMILE!! :)

6/15    kinney's mental diarrhea deleted.

6/15    I read the <DEAD>csua/ssh-howto.html<DEAD>  However, I would like to know
        how to ftp with the new system.  Thank you.

6/14    Defcon schedule up: <DEAD>www.defcon.org/html/defcon-9-schedule.html<DEAD>

6/14    http://www.totally-useless.com/bc-cam-archive

6/13    PARTY ANNOUNCEMENT: 2415 Dwight way apt #23, Berkeley.
        \_why don't you just say "fenwick, apt #23"?
          \_ it says that above the address on the flyer.  wouldn't
             the address be more useful?
             \_ You know, one of these days I'm going to go to one of
                these parties and see what's really going on.
                \_ davebrok went to the last one, he had a good time.

6/13    Where did http://segfault.org go? Where is that sucker when I need it?

6/13    Anybody know more about the Matrix Trilogy story line?  Is it based
        on a comic book?  I'd like to find out more about the story of II and
        III.  Thanks.
        \_ caliber comics.  look at the comic book trilogy "Go-man".  also
           some parts from "fringe"
        \_ matrix , like most current sci-fi, is a rip of older stuff with
           eye candy

6/13    http://somethingawful.com/nointelligence
        Makes sense to me.  --erikred
        \_ this link is broke, and it's broke from teh SA page.
           \_ Perhaps you haven't read the page?

6/13    oh fuck, no!!!  someone has already redeemed my $200 b&n coupon.
        how can this be???
        \_ who gave it to you?
        \_ i want one. where do i get it?

6/13    I want to subscribe to scientific american again. The best price I've
        been able to find seems to be their default price of ~$25. Anyone have
        any advice on how I might find cheaper?
        \_ You might want to try waiting for kids to come around to your house
           and offer subscriptions for their fundraiser.
        \_ subscribe, then cancel (don't pay). Afterwards they'll give you
           special deals like $39/2 years. That's what I did.
                \_ hmm. i'd wait till i saw a special.
                   my 3 yr. subscription was only $36.

<no selective censorship! if you delete, i delete>
        \_ Anyone find a better deal than $75/yr for the Economist?
           \_ No. Where did you find that?

6/11    Is it me or is the refresh rate on the motd becoming shorter and
        shorter (topics are being deleted more often)?
        \_ uh, a high rate = more often; low rate = less often

6/9     gas price going up another 6c:
        http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/politics/AP-Bush-Oil-Ethanol.html

6/8     http://atari.saturn5.com/~max
        "they look so goddamn like the same person"

6/8     Got a friend getting married. Throwing party. How much do hookers cost?
            \_ $100?
            \_ just have your wife dance for him.  a lot cheaper.
               \_ ^your wife^yermom

6/8     Where can I get statistical data on cities, specifically, amount
        of people from 18-30, (or av. age will do), and percentage of
        females in the population? - (serious request for statistical
        analysis of population modelling).
        \_ Have you tried http://www.census.gov yet? I don't know
           how detailed their data is, but it seems like a good place
           to start.

6/8     "Sodan, what is best in life?"
        "To crush your bugs, read code written before you,
                   \_ this is not best
         and download naked pictures of the women!"
             ObCliche: sub H07 42N CH1X here _/
         \_ D00D U M155P3113D N3KK1D!

6/7     If you died today would anyone notice?
        \_ unfortunately, yes.
           \_ now is that your SO? or your family?
        \_ the skies would darken, and wailing would be heard across the globe,
           a low keening rising to a deafening, babbling murmur of despair.
           my form would be seen against the stars, a striding, flaming figure,
           wielding a spiked golden flail, and the stars would be extinguished.
           then all would quail and quiet in terrible awe, for even the beasts
           will know their loss and bow heads towards the earth at my passing.

6/7     does anyo.e.k*ow*w.ere to g.t pop3 related APIs?
        \_ Are y.u *a(*<)g abou. the RFC, or some POP3 libs/src?
        \_ for wha. l*|gu.ge?
        \- wtf?
        \- ftw?

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the censored coments below this line reflect the opinion of some idiot's
delete key.
\_ I fully support said "idiot" and his/her use of the delete key.  The motd
   badly needed pruning (not to mention ASCII cows)

6/5     Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and good
        with ketchup.

6/6     <DEAD>public.wor.kz/bart/index.html<DEAD>

6/5     If MS had a Genius Bar like Apple's:
         http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/192.gif

6/5     [uncommented url. if you're going to uncensor, fucking comment it at
         least, twit]
        \_ This is a joke, right?

6/5     What's the proper way to stop on a skateboard when travelling
        at high velocity downhill?
        \_ get on your board at I-house, and head downhill.  When you get
           to just past Telegraph, I'll tell you the secret of stopping.
           Serious answer from about 15 years' experience: learn to
           avoid obsticles, learn to roll when you hit the ground, and
           expect pain as a way of life if you want to bomb hills
           seriously.  There is not good way to stop once you pass a certain
           speed.  Tighten up your trucks, also , to prevent speed wobble.
        \_ hit a tree, that's how the "pros" on hearst do it.
        \_regular skateboard, smooth stop, high velocity: "shred" i.e. force
        back wheels forward so that you're sliding facing forward (like
        snowboard). Difficult? yes but you should not be downhilling at
        high velocities unless you've mastered this technique.
        Emergency situation: jump off and run to a stop. Forget board.
        \_ I think one of the older powel peralta videos has a very long
           downhill sequence with Stacey Peralta demonstrating various slides
           down a huge hill.  Ask at your local skate shop.  I think this
           was pre-Bones brigade.
           \_ there was NOTHING before Bones Brigade
           \_ CHRISTIAN HOSOI.  - old skater who had a board with a skate plate
              at one point (it was my "travel board" -a decent Owen Neider
              Madrid.  Of course, the Natas board was much better.) Ever seen
              they new board designs?  I'll admit the boards these days are
              nicer in that they are lighter and more maneuverable. but damn
              kids these days don't have any fucking taste.  Alll this anime
              shit makes me want to puke at the Hello Kitty or IQ Egg or
              Daidamon board designs.  I want my old school Natas/powel
              peralta artists, damn it!  - old skater.

6/5     must read!  C:\WINDOWS\The Attacks on GRC_COM.htm
        \_ How?...
           \_ http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
        \_ More MOTD entries like this one, please.
        \_ The man is writing his own B-tree in assembly. Clearly he is
                insane yet cool, kinda like Cliff Stoll
                                    \- cliff stoll is an immature moron

6/03    Is all your base are belong to us officially dead yet?
        \_ All your moronic motd post are belong to us.

6/02    I'm sure some of you have seen this before, but in case there
        are still some of you rice bois and whiteys with asian fever
        who haven't, enjoy: http://www.infatuasian.com
        \_ Mine eyes, mine eyes!

6/01                   _.-'~~~~~~`-._
                      /      ||      \
                     /       ||       \
      Luke, I am     ------------------
      your father!                       Brain surgeon was here.
                   \      @@@@@@__       Intel <tm> Inside
        N4rq            @@@@|intel|@
        V4d3r        _@@@@@@@@@___|@@@_ "Luk3 my s0n, JoIN tH3 SPA
          +------>  |        ||        | 4nd y0u CaN bE MY c0-SySoP!
                    | _______||_______ |
                    |/ ----- \/ ----- \|  Y0u W1Ll NeVeR h4v3 Th3
                   /  (WAREZ)  (0-DAY)  \ cr3d1tz y0u nEeD t0 l34ch
                  / \  ----- () -----  / \ th3 Z3r0Day 0th3rWiSe!"
                 /   \      /||\      /   \
                /  |  \    /||||\    /  |  \
               /  SPA  \  /||||||\  /  SPA  \
              /_   |    \o========o/    |   _\
                `--...__|`-._  _.-'|__...--'
        \_ http://www.reject.org/shaedow/0day

6/01    ever heard of http://www.teledesic.com
        what about globalstar, iridium, etc.  no one ever mentions
        teledesic. yet they are most interesting of them all...
        \_ Hi Bill!

6/1     IC3 and the revenge of Bobby Flay begins tonight!
        http://foodtv.com/tvshows/ironchefindex

6/01                   _.-'~~~~~~`-._
         N4rq         /      ||      \
        V4d3r        /       ||       \  "Luk3 my s0n, JoIN tH3 SPA
          +------>  |        ||        | 4nd y0u CaN bE MY c0-SySoP!
                    | _______||_______ |
                    |/ ----- \/ ----- \|  Y0u W1Ll NeVeR h4v3 Th3
                   /  (WAREZ)  (0-DAY)  \ cr3d1tz y0u nEeD t0 l34ch
                  / \  ----- () -----  / \ th3 Z3r0Day 0th3rWiSe!"
                 /   \      /||\      /   \
                /  |  \    /||||\    /  |  \
               /  SPA  \  /||||||\  /  SPA  \
              /_   |    \o========o/    |   _\
                `--...__|`-._  _.-'|__...--'

6/01    This has GOT to be a hoax:
        <DEAD>cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1434614536<DEAD>
        \_ Maybe, but I could hate someone for $50k
        \_ How do you find these things? The auction, not hatred.
        \_ Why pay money when you can have it for free?
           \_ The more hate the better, though. Just one person can only
              generate so much.

6/01    Anyone here unfortunate to work in a place using Quintus CustomerQ?
        I would be grateful for some help/tips.  -John
        \_ Hey, Quintus has a nifty prolog implementation!

5/31    I think this is one of the more absurd ebay things I've seen in
        awhile.
        <DEAD>cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1434614536<DEAD>
        \_ people actually bid on it at $50.  Could just be one person that's
           doing it?

5/30    \_ you can't run arbitrary executables--not even locally--unless you're
           running a web server and making the executable a cgi.  otherwise
           people might try linking to "c:\windows\command\format.com /s c:",
           etc.
           \_ so since when do we date replies?
              \_ we don't.  someone deleted the original post and didn't delete
                 the reply.

5/30    I do NOT however, recommend you start out with your opinion first...
        as that might make you seem like a self-focused, arrogant, selfish
        bastard.  You want to HIDE that fact; not expose it!
                                        ---Seduction guide

5/29    http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/ddmw/archive/ddmw_010526.html
        What's the best method to solve #6, without reserving to bruce-force?
        \_ Reserving.... to bruce....force.
        \_ I resort to brute force. YMMV.

5/30    I met this girl at a "rave" party over the Meorial Day weekend. Now I
        have this rash in my private area down below. What is going on?
        \_ it could just be from dancing in sweaty underpants.
           vive le chafe!
        \_ Hahahaha.
        \_ I hope you got some, but either way you're screwed
        \_ Troll? Flamebait?
           \_ Either way, an excellent post.
        \_ depends on what you mean by "met." genital contact?  uh-oh.
           otherwise, perhaps it's poison oak, or just a rash.  get thee
           to a medical doctor! -i love trolls so cute
        \_ what kind of rash? have you seen this before? itchy? smelly?