9.25    Anyone want to buy some pc mcia ethernet cards, email prole@csua
        Or a 600 W crate 1/2stack

9/25    fork/exec question:

        I have a standard fork/exec in my code:

        pid_t pid;
        if ((pid = fork()) < 0) {
          perror("fork");
        } else if (pid == 0){
          setsid();
          execvp(args[0],args);
          perror(args[0]);
          _exit(127);
        }

9/24    http://www.enmpc.org.hk/ibshk/blackbible.html  Like it says. Rapping
        with God down wit da homeys!

9/25    Searle is a crackpot.
        \_ No, the guy running for US president who thinks that Adolf
           Hitler should have conquered the world is a crackpot.
        \_ You are being far too kind
           \_ well, he's also an arrogant bastard
                \_ "Any person who is sane believes in DNA, the atomic
                    theory, heliocentricity of the solar system, and
                    evolution."  --Searle, in class.
                    \_ how is this a response to the arrogant bastard bit?
                    \_ lies are best sandwiched in truths, you know
                       \_ Yeah, I never believed that heliocentricity
                          crap.  I've always believed evolution though.
                        \_ Just because he can get a few basics right doesn't
                           mean everything he says is true.  He's still an
                           idiot despite believing in heliocentricity and DNA.

9/23    When is (was) the L&S CS infosession?                   - brendal
        \_ Could you be a little bit more general?  Jeezz.  If this is a
           good deal, if it's for a CIO position in Santa Clara your getting
           ripped.
           \_ It's the motd.  It's either a sysadmin or coder job.
                   \_ besides, how many of the sorority girls on
                      campus could pass a Turing test?
        \_ I think it might be next week... I have seen rather
           more conflicting information than I'd like though. -brg
        \_ It will be on Tuesday October 5.  And I apologize for the
           conflicting info, but we had some unexpected snafus.  Flyers
           will be posted soon. -dans
        \_ why even bother?  Its all a big waste of time.
        \_ what percentage of all CS applicants get denied?
                \_ 100%
                   \_ Obviously not true.  - paolo (who used to be math)
                   \_ I think it's about 75% (deny rate). There are lots
                      of stats available... go to the infosession to find
                      out. If you're below 3.3, your chances aren't too
                      high, but you can even get in with slightly below a
                      2.9. Personally, that's why I applied under EECS :)
                      \_ yeah, you can skate by with a 2.0 while people
                         who are doing much better than you get fucked over.
                         \_ I got in with 2.1 combined with letters from
                            a number of profs.
                \_ If you come to the infosession you can find out.
                \_ No you wont.  Haven't you realized?  The infosession
                   is all about _discouraging_ people so they won't even
                   bother.
                   \_ That's a load of crap.  It's about showing people what
                      they're actually up against.  Please sign your posts in
                      the future so I know who's septic tank is leaking.
                      -dans, Interim L&S CS Infosession Czar
                        \_ "showing people what they're actually up against":
                           If *that* phrase isn't discouraging, I don't know
                           what is.  You sound a bit brainwashed.  -not the
                                same person from two posts up
                           \_ How is "showing people what they're actually up
                              against" discouraging?  If you think you're going
                              to get in with a C average, then you're probably
                              deluded.  If you think that you need a 3.5 to get
                              in, then, for the moment, you're deluded to (it
                              could get up to a 3.5, thus far it hasn't).
                              Frankly, I think that knowing what you'll likely
                              need is useful, and provides something of a
                              reality-check.  If you think that facing reality
                              is discouraging, then I feel sorry for you. -dans
                        \_ If you don't believe the L&S CS admissions committee
                        is acting in good faith in helping the CSUA to put on
                        this infosession by providing statistics and
                        counseling, then why bother even complaining about it?
                        For previous L&S infosessions we've had the EECS
                        Department Chair and most if not all of the L&S CS
                        admissions committee up in front of the crowd speaking
                        and answering questions.  It's not as if there's a
                        higher authority than that.  So this represents the
                        CSUA's best effort to get all the official information
                        about how best to approach getting in to the major out
                        to the people who need it.  And if you still don't
                        believe it, there are hundreds of schools you could go
                        to where they won't even begin to give you a hard time
                        about getting into CS. -brg
                        \_ There is a higher authority, I remember Katz saying
                           that the dean of Engineering was higher up - also I
                           remember them saying that the L&S dean needed to be
                           contacted if there were changes in the way that COE
                           doesn't get money from L&S Students in their program.
                           These guys never showed up to any L&S infosession.
                           Maybe they should? - paolo
                        \_ I stand corrected. Perhaps they should. (Perhaps
                           they just don't care...) -brg
                        \_ I don't believe that we've ever asked them.  Perhaps
                           this is a matter that we should consider addressing
                           -dans
                           \_ Right.  I'm sure they will come running just
                              an undergrad calls.  Take your own advice and
                              get a your own reality check.
                           \_ Oh deluded one:  Did I say that it was going to
                              happen like magic?  Did I say that they would
                              come running?  I don't see that in my post.  I
                              see the statement "Perhaps this is a matter that
                              we should consider addressing."  The only
                              illusion that I'm entertaining at the moment is
                              that I can convince you to pull the crack pipe
                              out of your ass through reasoned discourse.
                              Don't worry though, you're rapidly dispelling me
                              of this notion.  And, how exactly does one "get a
                              your own reality check"?  Sign your posts, and
                              learn to write a proper sentence you twink. -dans
                                \_ Do they no longer teach patience and good
                                   manners in CS anymore?  Apparently not.  Oh
                                   well.  Send me your resume.
                                   \_ "Whether 'tis nobler in the mind
                                       to suffer \ The slings and arrows of
                                       outrageous fortune, \ Or to take arms
                                       against a sea of troubles \ And by
                                       opposing end them. . ." (Hamlet 3.1)
                                       I choose not to exercise patience and
                                       manners here.  I do not stand idly by
                                       and suffer the slings and arrows of
                                       outrageous hosers.  Hamlet did.  Look
                                       where it got him. -dans
                                        \_ And being a rude jerk is getting
                                           you somewhere?  At least Hamlet
                                           didn't sound like a low grade
                                           moron.  It is possible to make a
                                           point without being an ass.  In
                                           fact, being an ass has never
                                           convinced anyone of anything,
                                           except that the speaker is an ass.
                                                --- glad I'm not you

9/24    recommendation for place that will repair a monitor?
        \_ just buy a new one.
        \_ I can't.  We're cheap.

9/23    http://www.netaid.org

        The power to end extreme poverty is now online.
        \_ brought to you by KPMG and CISCO thank you very much.  this site
        can handle 60 million hits per hour. -uctt

9/22    http://www.hackpcweek.com - this has got to be easy money for someone
        on soda. -dans

9/21    Now that http://drdrew.com is up, is this the end of the motd?
        \_ No.  People still need someplace to turn to for quality *wrong*
           answers.

9/20    t1 == 24x56kbps, right?  What does a t3 get you?
        \_ T3 = 28xT1
        \_ Boosting car stereos again danh?

9/20    Is http://www.missilebases.com for real???
           \_ you mean 'practically no'

9/18    ok what were those ab strengthening exercises again?
        getting a big gut is one of my worst nightmares.
        \_spot training doesn't work. eat right (read "The Zone"), and exercise.

9/18    TA: Kingdoms cd for sale.  $5.  email me - danh

9/16    I will sell you my copy of Total Annihilation: Kingdoms,
        for $5, email me - danh
        \_ Fat Whacker!

9/16    Thinking about getting a text pager (one where I can forward from
        Soda .procmailrc->text pager.) I don't really care about the
        voice->text translation. What is a good brand, and how much do
        these pagers and service cost? Thanks.
        \_ I have a Motorola Advisor Gold FLX.
           http://www.mot.com/MIMS/MSPG/Products/Alpha/advisor_gold
           I like it. But whatever kind you get, just look out for Kchang.

9/16     Any reccomendations on where to meet girls on campus ?
        \_ Find Soda Hall on the campus map and then find the complete
           opposite corner of the campus.
        \_ Not here.
        \_ They're everywhere.  Eye contact is a good start.  If she won't
           look at you... well... you're SOL.
        \_ The ones at Haas School were cute, though they might be bitchy.

9/15    NSA + M$oft = ?: http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html
        \_ Old news.
        \_ let me guess, this was put up by cmlee

09/15   ED!  ED!  ED is the STANDARD!  Motd Cleanser.

9/15    Free 3' x 3' square table by the volleyball court by soda.
        wooden finish.  it's a year old.`
        \_ Everything in here is wrong except the bits about
           "free", "wooden", and "square".

9/13    Wow, now the Coast Guard is straifing drug trafficers with bullets.
        That'll teach those guys a lesson.
        \_ "Casual marijuana users should be shot." -Daryl Gates

9/13    I accidentally typed "mal" when I was going to type "mail".  What
        does "mal" do?  Thx.

9/13    Free 3 month 2.5 lbs female black kitten to good home or meat packing
        plant.  I just remembered i hate animals.  -- sky
                \_ I haven't had free 2.5 lb black pussy since yermom!

9/13    if you haven't noticed by now, most posts in the motd over the
        weekend were idiotic and worthless
        \_ i'll try to notice the next time i do yer mom.
           \_ my mom doesn't do sodans, inasmuch as those who claim relations
              with "YerMom" would like to think
                \_ I bought my kidney and 2 of my children on ebay.  Great site!

9/10    Where's a good place to post to find interns/contractors to write
        an app on top of the Gimp/Gtk?
        \_ comp.graphics.apps.gimp or ask Manish to ask on #gimp maybe

9.8     Decal class 2 units.subject:the doors,124 morrision hall,8pm tonite
                                how appropriate   ^^^^^^^^^
                                \_ you fight like a cow
                                  \_ you cow like a fight
        \_ is this the most over-rated band in the history of rock music?

9/7     Is anyone going to make a costco run soon?
        \_ yes
           \_ Install unix.  It will solve the problem.
              \_ ED ED ED IS THE STANDARD!
           \_ Ride bike instead.
           \_ Install Linux, ride bike!
        \_ I am...

9/6     Anyone have recommendations for otp programs with a negative # in thier
        challenge? soda's jotp at http://soda.berkeley.edu/skey fails
        to give otp's that work during login time.
        \_ Don't you have to, like, reset it or something?

9/6     is it true that nickkral is a loser?
        \_ just ask root.

9/4     Is it true that Intel requires that you come into work at 8 and
        fines you if you come late to a meeting?
        \_ No.  They fire you.  Why would you show late for a meeting anyway?

9/3     [Irrelevant stuff about alumni deleted. Please learn how to
     contact the appropriate system admins.]
        \_ you are irrelevant you piece of censoring shit. if emailing
           root@alumni.eecs actually was answered in a timely manner,
           then putting stuff here on the motd would not be necessary.
           luckily mail is now working here on alumni, and was it
           coincidence that this happened after putting that on the
           motd? go crawl back in your hole shithead.

9/3     alumni can't receive email, but it can send it. anyone know
        what is up with alumni?
        \_ I can send *and* receive mail at alumni, no problem.  Maybe
           you're just not elite enough.

9/2     What's the proper format for a http head request?  Where can I find
        this info on the net?  Thanks!

8/31    What's meant by the term, "chameleonlike user interface"?
        \_ FVMW95.
        \_ meaning it can be made to look like "other" interfaces such as

8/31    alumni.eecs unreachable/down. Pls advise. Thanks.
        \_ What do you use it for anyway?  Who cares?
           \_ yeah well fuck you too, bitch.
                \_ Ok, where do you want to meet?
                   \_ Pretty desperate, aren't you?
                        \_ Not at all.  Why is a willing sex partner considered
                           a desperate one?  What's wrong with free anonymous
                           sex?  Been doing it for years, why stop now?
        \_ alumni.eecs not supported here.  Pls mail root@cs.
        \_ Sorry to have not notified, but I need it for a new doorstop.
        \_ jon will get to it when you pay him 100 dollars

8/31    how do i figure out what carrier/company controlls a given 800
        number assuming that i can't just call it and ask.  (There is no
        answer, but the number is not available through AT&T)?
        \_ /usr/sbin/traceroute?

8/30    Oh Allknowing MOTD:  I have a linux box and one I.P. Address.  I
        want to host (say) three domains that display different content
        based on what Name the person tried to come to.  Can Apache do this?
        Can someone recommend some (preferably online) docs that would
        tell me how to set it up?

8/30    Where can you find a network topology map of the entire campus?
        \_ you assume somebody knows the topology of the whole campus,
                I dont think you'll find anything authorative.
                \_ no, i remembered some guy from lbl come in to our
                   ee 122 class and show us the entire campus network
                   \_ I used to have such a thing on my office wall but it was
                      years out of date.  Also maps tend to reflect concept,
                      not current reality.
        \_ http://www.net.berkeley.edu/dcns has some maps that are a couple years old

8/29    Just bought a bottle of 60mg of Cleocin-T. The bottle says keep it
        between 66-75F. I had it in my car which was probably over 110F.
        Does it have any adverse effect on the solution? Thanks.
        \_ Medicines can be quite unstable chemical compounds. Some just plain
           don't work after being exposed to extreme heat/light/etc. Call your
           pharmacist; he/she will know.

8.28    Look, if we want to read slashdot, we can.

8/27    I knew not memorizing the My Little Pony names would come
        back to haunt me.  Next up:  The Care Bears
        http://www.brunching.com/toys/toy-pornorpony.html

8/27    http://www.iBrator.com
        \_ Doesnt that have Apple's Look and Feel?

8/27    I know it's in /., but
                http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2322302,00.html

08/26 Soda crashed again.  But, the DLT is online now.
      backups planned.  news at 10.

08/27 Soda Hall net to campus was down, back up now.

08/25 NEXT MEETING: Monday August 30, 7PM, 343 Soda.

8/24    Thread debugging Q... is it possible to switch to an arbitrary
        thread in MSVC (so I can see what threads are blocked)?
        \_ While running, try going to Debug->Threads... and Set Focus on the
           thread you want.  Good luck.
           \_ omg i'm such an idiot.  thanks mucho -embarrassed
              \_ Now that you have your answer, why not DELETE YOUR FUCKING
                 MOTD ENTRY?
                 \_ Prolly could've taken you less time to delete 5 lines than
                    to type that.
                    \_ Prolly wouldn't have lurned him to pick up after hisself
            \_ Perhaps to share the answer with others too timid to ask?

8/23    Looking for close to Berkeley store(s) (i.e. on San Pablo) for
        cheap stuff. Who's got a good deal?
        1) Cat5 Crossover cable to connect two 100MBps NICs.
        2) Additional case fan to cool my system.

8/23    What the hell is up with the cult today.  Five hours on campus and
        I've been mobbed three times already.  Someone should teach those
        mo-fo's a lesson.
        \_ RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. HAIL TO THE LEADER. WE LOVE THE LEADER AND
           THE LEADER LOVES YOU.
        \_ Drink Kool-Aid.  RIDE BIKE!
        \_ You must look lonely or despressed or something.  They have victim
           target profiles you must fit.
        \_ You're kidding, right!!??

8/21    Carl Sagan, the pot smoker
        http://cnn.com/US/9908/22/sagan.mairjuana.ap

8/21    I was doing http://dice.com and http://monster.com job posting when my manager
        walked in the middle of nowhere... stared at my monitor for about
        10 seconds, looked at me without saying anything, then went on.
        Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

8/21    It ain't necessarily so...
        It ain't necessarily so...
        The things that you're likely
        to read in the motd
        It ain't necessarily so.
        \_ believe me when I tell you, I'll never do you no harm ...
           believe me darlin'!
        \_ Jonah he lived in a whale
           Oh Jonah he lived in a whale
           He made his home in
           That fish abdomen
           Yeah Jonah he lived in a whale.

8/21    My gay lover left me and moved to New York but he's thinking of
        moving back to the Bay Area.  He called me the other night and we
        talked all night long.  It was like old times but I don't know if
        it's right to take him back.  What should I do?  -feeling used
        \_ Make mouth love.

8/22     Two Linux ?s:
                1.  Any software packages out there to allow a
                        terminal or graphical interface with Windoze machines?
                        Such as PCanywhere for Linux (if it exists), etc.
                \_ VNC (free, works w/ everything), WinFram (commercial,
                   only works w/ NT I think), VMWare (commercial,
                   gives you a virtual PC in a box)
                \_ You really want VNC.  Not only free but open source and has
                   X11 support.
                2.  Anybuddy else figure out how to get a 3Com ethernet card
                        to run as a secondary ethernet card?  It's one of
                        those PnP types.  I got pnpdump/isapnp to recognize it,
                        but it still doesn't show up on ifconfig.  Any klews?
                \_ Read the Ethernet HOWTO.  You need to pass you kernel
                   some parameters at boot up.
                \_ alias eth1 3c905  in the /etc/conf.modules
        Thanx all. - mtbb.

8/20    C++ question solved -- thank you

8/20    Pirate boy goes down hard:
        http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/079661.htm
        \_ Ouch.
        \_ poor boy. the morale of the story:  don't suck on the T3 too hard.
           \_ better: don't provide, just leech.  no leech has ever been
              arrested, only providers.

8/20    Who's got trouble?
        \_ We've got trouble.
           \_ How much trouble?
              \_ too much trouble!
        \_ I've got a bad feeling about this.
           \_ It's a Casablanca reference
        \_ Trouble in River City?

8/19    Richard M. Stallman speaks tonight at CoffeeNet in San Francisco,
        7:00p.  <DEAD>www.coffeenet.net<DEAD>    -- schoen
        \_ He giving out passwords again for the next internet worm to take
           advantage of?

8/15    Got tired of corporate slaves throwing  mud at each other.  thanks
        for your patience.

8/16    I need an Adult Check ID to look at nekkid stick figures without
        having to pay 30 dollars!  Help!

8/16    Anyone know a good place to find ATX cases in the San Ramon
        or San Jose area?  It's the one part of my machine I'm not
        willing to buy sight unseen.  Thanks.
        \_ PixelUSA in San Jose.

8/14    Anyone know what the music in the Acuvue commecial is?  It's
        genre is techno or world-music.
        \_ i think that the title is 'life in a northern town' but i have
           no idea who it was
        \_ The original song was "Life in a Norther Town" by Dream Academy.
           No clue who made the remix, but I much prefer the original.
           \_ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/eras/B000005JVT001001/002-5924011-3737262

8/13    How good/bad of pets are penguins?

8/13    Stupid shipley comments purged.  Too stupid even for the motd.
        Tough shit.

8/12    What is the answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything?
        \_ "Life, The Universe, and Everything" isn't a question.
         \_ "what do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
            \_ Dinner for 2.

8/12    Help, my manager is having a manager-anxiety attack. He has been out
        of the technical loop for such a long time that he does not know
        a lot of stuff that we do. Lately, he is going to everyone's cube,
        trying to learn how compile, use an editor, do an install test, etc.
        I really don't mind it, but it is getting kind of annoying. What
        should I do?
        \_ The most effective way I've seen is to get him a XXXX for
                Dummies book.           -- ivy
            \_ You don't think they'd take it the wrong way?
                \_ coming from ivy, any suggestion is an insult

8/12    When they say "Drink 8 glasses of water everyday", exactly how
        many ounces is that?
        \_ 64 oz.

8/11    Who is Archie Russel?

8/11    Wicki 6 sings a cappella this weekend in their public debut.
        Sunday, 7pm, Gallery Ovissi in Emeryville (1425 Park St., near the
        intersection of Hollis and 40th).  Tickets $5.  Watch me do my
        percussion thing.  -chaos
        \_ Are you hot?
          \_ She's 2 hot 4 u, b4yb33.  So get a life.
          \_ Decide yourself:
             http://infopad.eecs.berkeley.edu/~chaotic/images/stav1.gif
            \_ Definitely hot, time to go to emeryville.
               \_ you have liberal tastes.
               \_ There's never a good reason to go to emeryville.
         \_ You're all fucking hilarious.
            \_ The question is, which of these posts was written by chaos?
                \_ all of them.  she's totally psycho.
                   \_ Maybe but she's still hot.
                        \_ And you've bothered her, so now she's all
                           hot and bothered.
        \_ Will you percussion my thing?
          \_ She's 2 hot 4 u, b4yb33.  So get a life.
         \_ are you gay?
                \_ Yes and I'm hot for her.

8/11    It's late, and I just saw marc andreeson in a miller lite at with
        norm macdonald.  Did anyone else see this, or am I hallucinating??
        \_ I saw a similar ad too. scary.
        \_ I saw it last night too! BTW, "great taste"
        \_ When Linus drinks Miller, I will too!!!  RIDE BIKE!

8/9     What was the best motd troll ever?

8/9     Did anyone else notice some odd behavior with their mails?
        I have .forward in my account and last night, Soda forwarded
        half of the mails that were already in my mbox.  Shouldn't
        the mail server only forward the incoming mails?
        \_ No.
        \_ 'mail' is the correct plural form, not 'mails' -grammar-cop@csua

8/9     What is the origin of that phrase "Who is buried up Yermom's arse?"
        \_ "Gettin Down with Mr. Grant, Vol II"

8/9     What is the origin of that phrase "Who is buried in Grant's tomb?"
        \_ It was coined by Trivial Pursuit.

8/9     How secure are these "spread spectrum" cordless phones?  Are there
        any recommendations/alternatives?  I don't want cellular/wireless --
        It's just for home.   Im not a cia agent; it's just that I don't
        want my arbitrary phone conversations snooped by some drooling
        pervert across the street.  Thanks.
                \_ IT's wireless. Duh.
        \_Phone sex,eh?
        \_ I've already put a tap on your outside phoneline.  -naughty neighbor
        \_ Why don't you ever call me any more?  I miss your sexy voice

08/09   One day I'm going to die. when that happens, I shall welcome it.

[This motd intentionally left blank.]

666     Fuck you all and all you stand for.

IF YOU CAN'T RESPECT MY MOTD POST, THEN I CAN'T RESPECT YOURS. GROW UP.
\_ get a life you stupid troll

8/4     try to crack Windows2000 if you can:
        <DEAD>www.windows2000test.com<DEAD>

8/3     Does anybody have a blow up of this picture?
        http://www.squelched.com/Shorts/Marketplace/h&h.html
        \_ Get a life.
        \_ Get laid.
           \_ Are you offended because you paid $10k to make your car vibrate
              and scrape the ground?
        \_ Send them mail and ask if they have one.
        \_ Where did they get those babes? Couldn't be the Berkeley campus...

8/3     There are no differences but differences of degrees between different
        degrees of differences and no difference.

8/3     Townhouse for rent in north San Jose (near LSI logic).
        Info on it:
        North SJ 5-yr-old 3br,2+ba,1650sf,quiet,ac,
        pool,frig,w&d,alarm,hardwd flr,avl now $1800+depos
        510-643-8229, or mail rhuang@cs

now     jctwu is a jerk for not deleting his huge, relevant-only-to-him
        motd entry.
         _________________________________________
        < I've got yer relevance right here, pal! >
         -----------------------------------------
                \   ^__^
                 \  (oo)\_______
                    (__)\       )\/\
                        ||----w |
                        ||     ||
        \_ LSI Logic sucks. Workers there are stupid.
                \_ Yeah, I'm sure *everyone* at a reasonably successful
                   company are just "big doddy heads and big stupids!!@!!!111"
        \_ Randy, you suck at vollyball, and LSI Logic sucks.
           Been there done that

8/3     http://ucb.computing.discussion.  watch tom flame saar.
        \_ He does have a point.  It's pretty stupid to tell students what
           they want or need and then gauge their reactions through a
           pilot program.
           \_ tom has a sharply pointed tongue, that's about it.
        \_ it's rare that tom is totally wrong. #2 TOM FAN
           \_ Are you kidding?  What's rare is when tom manages to burble
              something that isn't so utterly mean spirited and offensive
              that anyone could tell or would bother reading far enough to
              see if Mr. Congeniality has anything worth saying.  The rare
              few bits he may get right aren't worth the effort to find among
              all the bile and spittle.
        \_ go post your flames on the newsgroup.

8.2.99  -old docs thread deleted.  Old docs sent to excess and salvage.

8.2.99  ["old docs up for grabs" thread deleted.  Old tocs sent to E&S]

7/30    Anybody know the web site for UC Theatre?  I had it a long time
        ago but seem to have lost it.  Thanks!
        \_ if you're around soda, there's a UC calendar across the hall
           from the CSUA lounge.
           \_ I'm an alumni living in San Jose. Can somebody check if
              "After Life" is playing on Aug 6 and 7th?  Thank you.
              \_ It is indeed: 4:30, 7:00, and 9:30 both days, plus 2:00
                 on Saturday.

7/30    Someone should make cheap-o digital watches that count down to the
        millenium, and sell them.  (But not me, someone else)

7/29    If I can't participate in a Yahoo Chat when it takes place, is there
        a way to obtain a transcript or log afterwards?  Thanks.  -- yuen

7/29    Looking at Aiken's homepage, I realized that he is gay. He is
        married to a man (who's name is Jennifer)!!!

7/29    What do you think about last night's FOX show "Signs of God, Science
        test faith"?
        \_ I think it has a really stupid name.
          \_ what kinda name should it rather be?

7/28    Holy shit!  Alien mobsters just blew up Mel Torme!

7/29    Name the movie: Little kid in mall in 1985 LA, "That man just
        shot Santa Claus!"
        \_ Commando
        \_ It was in the sherman oaks galleria, which is now, sniff sniff,
           gone.  My youth, torn down--I'm getting old.
           \_ It's going to renovated not torn down.
              \_ It won't be the same.  I grew up 2 minutes from the
                 Galleria...  -brianm
           \_ You shall wear the bottoms of your trousers rolled.

7/29    My cat rebelled this morning.  What do you do when your feet
        are just so much flesh flapping in the breeze like a tattered
        flag?
        \_ Hmm... whatever you do, don't RIDE BIKE!
        \_ Fuck them back under the covers.

7/21    I'm looking for a job. http://flophouse.com/~dpassage/resume.text
          --dpassage
          \_ Got tired of working for israeli firewall company?
                \_ very perceptive.
                \_ GPA, classes taken, publications? ??? I know you graduated
                    \_ technical
                   long time ago, but employers still want to see them
                                        - professional HR person
                   \_ chris, is that you?
                                        \_ a good sign of a company you don't
                                           want to work for.  -tom
                                           \_ no, that's what is called a
                                              troll.
                \_ so what are your salary expectations? $75K + 401k + etc.?
                   \_ If you have to ask...  As for GPA, only weenies
                      put that on their resume.
                      \_ No, people put them on their resumes because they're
                         going to be asked sooner or later anyway.  The
                         weenies are the ones that put it down because
                         they have nothing else to show for themselves.
                         \_ Tom's right. Companies that ask are staffed by
                            weenies. You don't want to work for them. --dim
                         \_ I've only been asked my GPA by the lame ass moron
                            companies, usually found via recruiters.  As much
                            as I hate to agree with tom, he's right.  Those
                            are lame companies, especially if you've already
                            got time at some other job.  A company you want
                            to work for will never ask for your GPA.  It's
                            a stupid question and says nothing about how good
                            or bad an employee you'll be.  In fact, I'd be
                            concerned about too high a gpa (if volunteered)
                            because that tells me the person is probably a
                            politcal kiss ass, not a good worker.  -agrees
                                with tom for once
                         \_ I very much doubt "political prowess," whatever
                         that means in this context, will allow one to have
                         high GPA in majors like CS or Math.  I dare any
                         politico to prove me wrong. -- ilyas
                         \_ Given that majors usually have at least 50% of
                            classes NOT in the major, i'd say what you
                            were trying to say has been proved wrong
                            \_ My friend, taking a few cog. sci. classes on
                            the side won't save your butt in a technical
                            major here at Cal. -- ilyas
                            \_ All the potstick eating weenies in BH's classes
                               got higher final grades and no they didn't get
                               more total points.
                                \_ Hey, some of us potsticker eating weenies
                                   DID get more total points, too. Not only
                                   that, but we ALSO had time to spare to eat
                                   potstickers. -potsticker-eating smartass

7/20    Anyone watched last night's "Happy Hour" show on USA channel?  I
        want to find out the names of the four woman participants.  Thanks.

7/20    I don't like aubie personally. Fuck you. Happy bday jerk.

7/20    Is Scientoligy a cult or a mofia? I'm having trouble discerning
        exactly what they do.
        \_ Yes.
        \_ Scientology is an organization that fleeces naive and emotionally
        vulnerable people.  Their cosmology is very .. primitive, but they
        have succeeded in sucking hundreds of thousands of dollars from an
        average member.  They are officially a religion, so they do not pay
        any taxes.  -- ilyas

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7/20    Does soda have Scour Media Agent installed anywhere?

7/20    birthday@aspolito.com

7/18    TRAB PU KCIP. TRAB PU KCIP. {now revised}
        \_ Uh, Millhouse, what did I tell you about writing on the wall again.

7/18    What do you guys think about http://quokka.com and its advertisements?
                \_ i like their coverage of link:www.motograndprix.com
        \_ SOMEONE has  a LOT of money to burn on their little startup...
        \_ Funny adds, but pointless.  Probably more designed to hype
        the company to fleece people come IPO time then create a viable
        business.

7/18    TRAP PU KCIP. TRAP PU KCIP.
        \_ Pick up part? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

7/18    what did people think of eyse wide shut?
        \_ not enough sex scenes.
           \_ how good were they?
        \_ Anybody know where I can join an orgy society like in the movie?
        \_ It was SOO DUMB!  They talk SOO SLOWLY!!  I spent half the movie
           wondering when it was going to be over.
        \_ EWS is another page in the 2001, Barry Lyndon file.  Great stuff,
           if you like that kind of thing.  If you were expecting another
           Full Metal Jacket or The Shining, you will be dissapointed.  I
           thought it was very good.

07/16 mutt upgraded to 0.95.6i, bugs to brg

7/15    Is anyone else besides me beginning to suspect
        s/key is one of the worst documented things
        ever to have been invented?  Why wonder
        why Microsoft is taking over, they
        understand it's important to make something
        easy to install and run out of the box

7/14    Which South Park kid do YOU want to anally rape?
                \-you guys actually know who is who? --psb
        \_ Cartman's Mom
        \_ Wendy
        \_ Kyle
        \_ All of them.
          \_ All of them at once.

7/14    mandatory ssh is fascism!  Mussolini made the trains run on
        time safe & secure AT WHAT COSTS???  won't someone
        please think of the children?

7/14    Any recommendations for a southbay aquarium store, especially for the
        clueless newbie?
        \_ The fish store on Castro@Dana in Mountain View is pretty kewl. -atom
        \_ there's also Dolphin Pet Village on San Tomas Expwy in Campbell

7/13    Which Spice Girl do YOU want to impregnate?
                \-you guys actually know who is who? --psb
        \_ Frankly I wouldn't want to impregnate anyone. Don't have the
           time nor the money to raise a child.
                \_ What the fuck does impregnation have to do with support,
                   you dickless commie shithead?
                   \_ YET MORE PROOF OF MALE CHAUVINISTIC ATTITUDES AND
                        WHY WOMEN HAVE BEEN OPPRESSED REPRESSED DEPRESSED
                        SUPPRESSED AND COMPRESSED FOR *TOO LONG*!!!!!!
                                - jesse jacksonette
                        \_ Yeah whatever.
        \_ Skanky Spice
        \_ partha spice
        \_ Posh or Sporty
          \_ Sporty is a lesbian. Sorry.
                \_ So what?  Lesbianism is not a contraceptive.
        \_ baby or posh. sporty would be like doing a guy.
        \_ All of them.
          \_ All of them at once.

7/13    Blatant flamebait entries purged.  -not tom but wants to be like him
        \_ Let me guess... you're anti-evolutionary.
                \_ No, anti-de-evolutionary.  Hoping that intelligence won't
                   die out soon on this planet.
                \_ No, actually they were getting dull so I zapped them to
                   make room for newer, fresher flamebait.

7/13    What is a reasonable amount to charge when you want to host 2 or
        more domains that point to one page?  Ie. http://foo.com and http://foo.org
        and http://foo.net all going to one place?  I'm trying to compare prices.
        \_ Um... How 'bout the price for registering the names.
           $100 + $50/year...
           \_ actually it's 35$/yr
              \_ From whom?
                \_ from anybody! but 'networksolutions' if you need a name.

7/13    The motd says the the meeting is Wed Jul 13. Wednesday is Jul 14.
        Is the meeting today or tomorrow?
        \_ You want to join the Russian oligarchy?
        \_ The meeting will be today.  Apologies for any confusion.  For future
           reference, we will be holding meetings every other week during the
           summer.  Thus the next meeting after today will be held on Tuesday,
           the 27th, once again, at 6:00PM.
           -(dans), Secretary

7/13    You corporate drones, listen up. THE VOICE OF DILBERT SHALL BE HEARD.

7/13    Sofa bed (full size) for sale, also large bookcase. email jng. thx.

7/13    IBM announced on Monday it was going to buy Sequent.  Be glad we
        got rid of the old Sodas before they got converted to AIX.
        \_ AIX >> Dynix
        \_ I _LIKED_ old Sodas.  And ptx wasn't THAT bad.  The latest version
           running on mkIV was even reasonable to compile on.  MkIII,
           however....  --sowings
        \_ PTX was horrible.  -tom
                \_ PTX TCP & NFS especially sucked ass.
                   \_ Would you please stop with the "sucked ass" noise?  You
                      only make yourself look stupid and crude.  I'm doing you
                      a favor by pointing this out.
                        \_What an ass sucker!
                        \_ Shut the fuck up you uncle fucker!

7/12    The Matrix to have 2 sequels.
                http://entertainment.news.com.au/news/4268771.htm

7/12    Living on Earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free
        trip around the sun.

7/12    Useful products for sodans:
        <DEAD>www.planetrx.com/product/nonRx/shelf/info<DEAD>
        100140017_Introduction.html
        \_ go away aspolito

7/9     [dilbert extortionist purged] You don't have the right to get answers
        on the motd.

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07/09   Where can I donate networking hardware?  We have a bunch (> 50) of
        manageable 10BT hubs that need to be cleared out for space.. -tchuang

07/09   DefCon7! Yeah, baybee!

07/08   More Windoze alternatives:
        http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,84-38856,00.html?tt.yfin..txt.ni
        \_ L1NUX RUL3$!!! R1D3 B1K3!!@2!!@!@#

19990709   THE COUCH RIDES AGAIN w/100 water pistols THIS FRIDAY
                      http://xinet.com/bike/COUCH!!!!!
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           / ___| / _ \| | | |_ _|  _ \_   _| |  _ \|_ _|  _ \| ____|
           \___ \| | | | | | || || |_) || |   | |_) || || | | |  _|
            ___) | |_| | |_| || ||  _ < | |   |  _ < | || |_| | |___
           |____/ \__\_\\___/|___|_| \_\|_|   |_| \_\___|____/|_____|

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                         |_   _/ _ \|  _ \  / \\ \ / /
                           | || | | | | | |/ _ \\ V /
                           | || |_| | |_| / ___ \| |
                           |_| \___/|____/_/   \_\_|

7/6     Currently I'm FTPing to soda from my PC at work and everything is peachy.
        Will that stop working after July 15?  If so, what should I do?

7/6     How do I change sendmail.cf so that it can add directive
        "X-Envelope-To: foobar@foobar.com"? Thanks.

7/5     <DEAD>search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990706/V000015-070699-idx.html<DEAD>
        Your friend the Darwin Effect whale.
        \_ document is not there.  suscription required?
           \_ Weird.  It was there 2 seconds before I posted the url.  Anyway,
              this guy hide out in the marine world park until after hours and
              sneaks into the killer whale tank to go have a swim with the
              kw's.  His body was found the nexy day.  No chew marks but was
              pretty dead.
                \_ The story is also here:
                   http://www.hotcoco.com/news/nation/natwire/614868l.htm
                   \_ thanks.

7/5     Damn tradition!  If it wasn't for people trying to appease older
        people who don't like to change because their brains have rusted
        into place, we'd be learning shorthand, not cursive.
        \_ What are you babbling about?  We'd *not* be learning shorthand.
           What a stupid ass lame idea.

7/5     see r-rated preview of final kubrik film:
        http://www.film.com/reviews/features/99eyeswideshut/p2.html
        \_ LeeLee Sobieski is going to be the real "attraction"..
           If you liked her in Deep impact, you'll love her
           underwear scene in EWS.
            \_ get a life.

7/4     TeeVee Smashing in People's Park was RAD!!!!
        \_ you're an idiot.

7.04  Why go to a movie when you can actually go to a play?  -
      Theatre Rhubarb is putting on "Wilhelm Reich in Hell" - a play by
      R.A. Wilson (Of Illuminatus! and Schrodinger's Cat fame).  It's
      playing all thru the month of July.  If any are interested in going
      send email to prole@csua.
      \_ Theatre Rhubarb is at Exit Stage Left, 156 Eddy, SF
      \_ Theatre Rhubarb is at Exit Stage Left, 156 Eddy, SF.  showtimes
         are Jul 9,10,16,17,23,24,30,31 8pm. (Those are Fri/Sats).
      \_ Because a lot of local plays are amateurish and just plain suck?
      \_ Because RAW is a twit, and most people realzie this by freshman year?

7/04  Movie session today is cancelled.  Next week is freejack or ghostbusters.
      \_ It occurs to me that those in charge of the film sessions will be
         out of town next weekend too.  7.17 is when we resume.  Send film
         suggestions to prole@csua
         \_ There was a call for freejack or ghostbusters

7/4     Happy Fourth of July!
        \_ Yankee Go Home!
           \_ I'm not from New York
                \_ Round eye DIE!

07.02 So what should it be this weekend, Ghostbusters, or Freejack, or Blade?
      - email prole@soda (guerrila film)

7/1     so what was I saying about ssh? oh yeah! Bad idea!

6/30    So will lwall have to ssh in?

6/30    Communism \
        Ssh?!      |
        Unfair!    This is one of the stupidest motd entries i've ever seen
        Amend

6/30    SOUTH PARK IS OUT TODAY! KICK BUTT!
                                 \_ that's 'kick - ass' you goddamn hippie
                                    ;)
                                    \_ your smiley is stupid
                                       \_ >:P
        \_ why do people make fun of Kenny?
                \_ because he is cmlee
                \_ Oh my god!  They killed Kchang!  Kick ASS!

6/30    Anybody tried ordering out-of-print books from Amazon?  Are they
        any good at getting the books?  I order one 3 weeks ago and they still
        haven't gotten back to me.  Thanks.
        \_ July 1997, I figured, on a whime, to see if they can get
           that "Wormy" comic novel (basically, a collection of strips from
           that cartoon from Dragon Magazine. I submitted the request to
           Amazon, they found the ISBN, and requested a search. Then I
           forgot about it. Every now and then, I'd be amused to see that
                \-they seem to be a *lot* pricier --psb
                 \_ I'm never seen a out of print service that wasn't.
                    That is why I just like to prowl used bookstores
                    often and grab things when I can find them.
           I still had a request pending for it. Then, a month ago, I got
           an email saying that Amazon had tracked down the book, and asking
           if I were still interested. I sayd "Sure, why not", and, though
           it took another 2-3 weeks, I got it. Granted, this was a fairly
           mainstream graphic novel from 1987, so, if you want, say, a
           first edition George Bernard Shaw treatise on mathematics, you
           may want to wait a while, but, from this one limited example,
           I got results.
        \_ I waited 7 months and they finally got back to me, asking me to
           confirm if I wanted it. I confirmed. Three weeks later, they go
           "Ooops, we really didn't find it. We're still looking."
        \_ use http://www.alibris.com instead.   More pricy than finding it in a
           used bookstore but cheaper and MUCH faster than Amazon.
        \_ They found my book in 2 weeks but I found it on my own in 2 days.
           It's ok if you're not in a rush.  There's another out-of-print
           books place that does a much better job different than the url given
           above.  If I can find it I'll post it later today or tonight.
                \_ Try <DEAD>www.abebooks.com;<DEAD> they often have books I can't
                   find elsewhere. -- tabloyd

6/28    Does anyone know who sang the song in the volkswagon commercial?
        it goes something like ... "thank you very much mr. robato for
        helping me escape...."
        Styx --ramberg
        \_ music available: http://www3.vw.com/vwworld/music.htm

6/27    Troll about ssh and EECS vs LSCS deleted. Let's talk about bike.
        \_ Play it one more time for me Sammy.  Play it one more time, for
           for old time sake.

6/25    Does anyone know if the movie "Twice Upon A Yesterday" is still shown
        anywhere in Bay Area?  I did search but to no avail.

6/25    Anybody know how much the Seattle to Great Britain Concord flight
        costs (for 1st class and coach)?

6/24    Anybody know where I can find info httpd specific attacks?
        \_ aaron, asian chic, lila, immigrant, psb

6/25    Trevor Buckingham vs. David Cash: Who would you rather have as a
        lab partner?
        \_ My right hand.
        \_ Doug Young
        \_ Ian Crew
           \_ or Ian Goldberg
        \_ alicia silverstone
           \_ for inspiration?
                \_ For blow jobs and sex.
                   \_ What? Alicia the wistful virgin?!
        \_ yelena novikova
           \_ that's so not fair!
             \_ Fear a cog.sci. partner.  Trust me. -- ilyas
                \_ hey, i resemble that remark.  -lila
                \_ Never take a cogsci person as your partner.  -cogsci alum
        \_ donald horton
           \_ Man oh man, I second that one.  I remember having to do all
              of his portion of a class project because he found Tcl/Tk
              too difficult to learn . . .
        \_ Kevin Chang
        \_ I had a partner (forgot his name) who was in jail for the last
           week of class, which was also when our CS164 project was due.

6/22    I've seen photos of the golden gate taken from a beach.  From that
        angle the bridge spans left to right dominating the photo.  Anybody
        know which beach might give you that view?  I've tried China Beach
        and the surrounding area.  The angle doesn't look right.  Thanks.
        \_ just a guess, but maybe stinson?
        \_ "spans from left to right" is meaningless.
            "The San Fran side is on the right" is meaningful.
           \_ Actually I couldn't tell if SF is on the right from the photos.
              It was taken from a beach and the bridge looked huge in the
              background.  It's beautiful.  Anybody know where it might be?
              \_ Angel Island, perhaps?  It has a beach facing the right
                 direction and a commanding view of the Golden Gate (so
                 commanding that the gov't chose to put gun emplacements
                 facing the bay mouth directly above it).  I think it's
                 probably the very best place from which to watch the sun
                 set over the bridge . . . -- kahogan
        \_ Baker beach...?
        \_ Alameda Naval Base has kewl views of the Bay Bridge...

6/22    NO BEER AND NO TV MAKE HOMER GO SOMETHING SOMETHING.
        \_ I've never had any exposure to the Shining.  Which one is better -
           Kubrik's movie or the book?
           \_ Incidentally, Kubrik also has yet another movie to join his
              collection of great works (although I scoff at his decision
              to cast Tom Cruise, quite possibly the worst actor ever).
              Eyes Wide Shut is opening on July 16.
        \_ Are we suppose to fill in the something something??
        \_ go crazy?
           \_ don't mind if I do!

6/21    DOWN WITH ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS!!!!
        \_ anti what-what?
           \_ people who refuse to evolve
           \_ people who refuse to stop casting porosity

6/21 Am I strange if I buy figure skating for dummies just for the pictures ?
        or does that mean I am just a fetishist ?

6/19    Re: Chinese Chess that I asked a while back.  It's at
        http://www.chinesechess.com  You can only play against other human players
        though.

6/19    Anybody want to go to the opera? Have extra ticket for each of 4 operas
        in Wagner's Ring Cycle in SF. Starts Sun 2pm. -tcmoore