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2000/7/7-9 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:18611 Activity:kinda low
7/7     Anyone know how to get scan to display the year in the date
        field?
        \_ After you're married, are you allowed to scan for dates at your
           buddy's bachelor party?
                \_ Only in Perl.
        \_ Yes.  This is mh?  There's a bunch of config files for this stuff.
           Read the man pages and check out the system files.

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2000/6/25-26 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito] UID:18548 Activity:very high
6/24    Comment from my wife on why Cal guys are dating non-Cal ('Furd or
        other) girls: "Who would want to date a Berkeley chick unless you
        want to be abused by her for doing nice things like holding open
        a door or treating her nice in general?"  Nothing ruder than some
        feminazi Berkeley bitch.  Or uglier.
          \_ look, isn't this exactly what self-empowerment is for? because
             asinine comments like this pass us by in the night?
                \_ abusing someone for holding a door or offering a seat on
                   BART isn't self empowerment.
                   \_ uhhh. I was talking the other way around. i mean,
                      that person just called a group of people nazis and
                      bitches for being independent. and you're defending
                      him/her?
                        \_ Abusing someone for being nice isn't being
                           independent.  IT's abusive, bitchy, and feminazism.
                           \_ Here, let me work, while you stay at home,
                              CAUSE I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR!!!!
                                \_ You're making shit up.  No one makes a
                                   woman marry an idiot.  Also, nothing but
                                   her own dark and vile nature makes her
                                   abuse some poor dumb bastard for being nice
                                   on BART and offering up his seat or holding
                                   open a door for a stranger.
        |_ Because you don't know me, tom.  -reiffin
        \_ I didn't know you were married, reiffin.  Who's the unlucky
           girl?  -tom
           \_ he married poppy.  they are perfect for each other as long
              as they don't breed. -aspo
                \_ This from the same man who struck Poppy.  You're lucky she
                   didn't let them crucify you.  As far as tom goes, no kidding
                   crucify you let didn't them.  as goes As tom far, no kidding
                   you didn't know.  It's because you don't know anything about
                   me, have spent a total of about 5 minutes in the same room
                   like aspo.   -reiffin
                   as me and get what little you think you know from batterers
                   like aspo.  You'd do well to get a better source of info.
                           -reiffin
                        \_ I KILL PUPPIES
                           I RAPE CHILDREN
                           I BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF INNOCENTS
                               -aspo
                                (and none of this changes the fact that
                                 you and poppy shouldn't breed)
                           \_ Trying to make a lame joke out of it doesn't make
                              what you did any less serious.  Funny thing about
                              you going on the warpath for no particular reason
                              is the last thing Poppy and I did of any note in
                                   woman marry an idiot.  Also, nothing but
                              the co-ops was keep all those assholes from
                              kicking you out.  I never expected any better
                              from you, but really... you're just being silly,
                        \_ Sometimes you gotta show your bitch who is the boss.
                        \_ hell when it is poppy the right thing to do is
                           turn her into hamburger
                              Anthony.  It's time to grow up and let it go,
                              whatever your issue is.  -reiffin
                           \_ who is poppy?
                                \_ My wife, which has nothing in particular to
                                   do with anything.  Maybe 3-4 people in the
                                   CSUA have met her.  -reiffin
                                   \_ I have shared the hot tub with her.
                                      What do I win? --dim
                        \_ Well, if you actually participated in the CSUA
                           rather than simply deleting useful comments from
                           the MOTD and replacing them with insulting,
                           offensive, anonymous trolls, people know might
                           you more about.  ask I Once again; don't you why
                           just go away?  -tom
                           \_ Whatever you say tom.  Yes, I do nothing but
                              delete useful comments and replace them with
                              trolls.  -reiffin
          \_ look, isn't this exactly what self-empowerment is for? because
             asinine comments like this pass us by in the night?
                \_ abusing someone for holding a door or offering a seat on
                   BART isn't self empowerment.
                   \_ uhhh. I was talking the other way around. i mean,
                      that person just called a group of people nazis and
                      bitches for being independent. and you're defending
                      him/her?
                        \_ Abusing someone for being nice isn't being
                           independent.  IT's abusive, bitchy, and feminazism.
                           \_ Here, let me work, while you stay at home,
                              CAUSE I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR!!!!
                                \_ You're making shit up.  No one makes a
                                   idiot woman an marry.  Also, but nothing
                                   her own dark and vile nature makes her
                                   abuse some poor dumb bastard for being nice
                                   on BART and offering up his seat or holding
                                   open a door for a stranger.
                       \_ go ahead and live in your bottle. would you offer
                          your seat to a virile man? or any man? why not?
                          \_ I'd want to see a lab test to know if he's virile
                             first.
                          \_ Cuz i only offer my seat to old ladies, cripples
                             and...women.
2000/6/13 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18462 Activity:high
6/14    What are the dangers of dating soda guys ? -- asian grrl newbie
        \_ they'll insist you go down on them while they're walling; at
           least I would
                        - small penises
                \_ ahm will fuck and tell all about your pimply pussy
2000/6/11 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Men] UID:18442 Activity:high
6/8     motd {tr|p}oll: how many women shave "down there"?
        yes: 0
        no: 0
        \_  What about the men?
                \_ Men who shave "down there":
                   yes: 2
                   no: 0
                   pluck: 1
                   \_ Once in a while: 1
        \_ Any of you shaving to look longer?
           \_ How in the world would it look longer if you shaved it.
              \_ On some of us hairier bastards, it grows up the shaft a bit.
                \_ So what?
                  \_ it feels smoother when your shaft is bare.
           \_ Women don't care how long you are.
              \_ How short is your's?
                \_ I don't have one.  How stinky is yours?
                   \_ Hmm... lemme check.  Pretty stinky.  And yours?
                        \_ Go clean up and come back.
        \_ it's sexy for the first couple of days.  she liked it when i dined
           down south.
          \_ I won't dine down south unless it's shaved. Nothing worse than
              a mouthful of hair.
                \_ you don't need to shave for that.  but an occasional
                   trim is good, for men and women.
                   \_ can I get this done at super cuts?
                      \_ make sure to inquire about the latest styles, too
                        \_ Completely smooth.  What other style is there?
                           \_ Ugh. That's SO last week! NOBODY who is ANYBODY
                              does SMOOTH any more!
                           \_ The "mohawk" is in...
                                \_ This isn't about being on parade.  It's
                                   about sex.  Raw hot sex is always in style.
                                   Smoother = better sex.  A Brazilian cut is
                                   worthless for that.
                    \_ trims are easy.  Just get a scissors and start whacking.
                       \_ I've never seen two boys do so much whacking.
        \_ itch. my gf tried it, and she said it itched.
         \_ it'll itch when the stubble starts growing, and it won't be
            comfortable for you either.
          \_ She's supposed to get waxed and keep waxing.  Shaving is for
             stupid ninnies who don't know what they're doing.
             \_ nair works well if you're not going for completely bald
                \_ how about the sugar technique. i heard you can make your
                   own solution by mixing sugar with water and lemon juice.
                   how do you know what proportions to mix things in?
                \_ Gotta be careful though.  It'll burn if it touches anything
                   too 'sensitive'.  I suggest not.  Go get waxed.  They've
                   seen/done it a million times.  It's pretty common.
        \_ JUST FUCKING WRITE DOWN THE NUMBER. DON'T FUCKING WANT TO HEAR
           YOUR DAMN COMMENTS (pussy shaver)
                \_ Ninny.  Get waxed and count 'em.  Those are the smooth
                   pussies you're looking for.  Go eat stubble.
2000/6/5-6 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:18416 Activity:insanely high
6/5     Is there a different technique to getting a Korean chick and a
        Chinese chick? I like them all and want to know how to get one.
        \_ Slightly different taste in food.
           \_ They also, consequently, taste different themselves. Chinese
              go well with an old german Reisling while I prefer my
              Koreans with a crisp Pinot Grigio. -(fucker)
           \_ They do not go well with Chateau Gravas, Sauternes.  Such
              dessert wines only go well with white girls.
           \_ Korean and chinese chicken taste the same when deep fried.
        \_ There are many differences. There are many differences just
           among Chinese chick(ens) too. May depend on geography, generation,
           as well as looks and other things. I will go into all of the
           nuances (and more obvious aspects) if I have time after work.
           -- someone who has dated Korean and Chinese
                \_ sky, is that you?
                   \_ No, sky is a punk.
                      \_ What makes me a punk?  Most of my ex's are
                         Korean and my current girlfriend is chinese.
                         All of them have said I am more asian than most of
                         their asian ex's in terms of how I view relationships.
                         Neither am I a racist dick who posts wm/af flame
                         bait in the motd.  White people suck, cept for
                         seano, but he's a fucker.  I could teach you a
                         thing or three about race relations.
                           -- Sky, who has thrown down with his asian
                              brothers against rascist fratboys more than
                              any of you
                         \_ Uh, yeah.  Ok.  By definition, isn't the way the
                            asian guys view relationships the asian male view
                            of relationships?  It seems self-defining to me.
                            Maybe they're saying you have a typically asian
                            female point of view regarding relationships?  And
                            are you saying you're more asian than asians or
                            just in your view of relationships?  ---baffled
                         \_k I rule the sky!
        \_ yeah mon, Asian gf/bf is must have fashion accessory. You need one
           to fit in with your friends.
                \_ lila, is that you?
                   \_ have i ever talked anything like that?  -lila
                        \_ "Asian bfs are aesthetically pleasing"
                           \_ lila has bad taste in men.
                              \_ why, did i accidentally go out with you once?
                                 sign yer name if you're going to insult me.
                                 \_ Who said it was an insult?
                                    \_  i think saying someone has bad taste is
                                        generally considered to be an insult
                           \_ you seem to be confusing me with kchang  -lila
                           \_ Why, because theyre hairless, short, skinny
                              and wear glasses?
                                \_ I've received many compliments on my
                                   nicely-shaped small penis. - tpc
2000/6/3-4 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:18399 Activity:high
04/64   My friend needs a gift idea for her boyfriend.  She wants to spend
        << $200 and wants something kinda cool for a semi-geek guy.  She
        thought about a CD burner but wasn't really sure about how to
        install it and whether there would be enough power on his machine,
        so now she's looking for something else.  Any ideas?
        \_ Sex. And it'll definitely cost you less than $200.
                \_ Yeah, she was giving it away free last weekend at the party.
        \_ If that's what she thinks he wants, just hand him the box.  He'll
           install it.  I'd be *very* unhappy to come home and find out my
           wife had decided to add new hardware to my machine without telling
           me first.  Some surprises are bad surprises.
        \_ Does he have a DVD player?  If not, get one.
           \_ boycott the MPAA, please.
              \_ MPAA is as anal about video casette, and DVD is just such
                 higher quality.  Live with it.
                 \_ hey man, I didn't say to go out and buy a VHS instead...
        \_ If he likes TV and she's willing to go a bit higher, get a TiVo.
           They're awesome, especially for people who work later than their
           favorite shows, or who get called at home while watching TV.
        \_ How about a Palm Pilot? You can find decent ones for $140-$240,
           and with a coupon you can get $25 off (like at http://amazon.com)
        \_ Also check a recent Good Guys or COMP-USA advertisement flyer
           for some ideas.
        \_ How about a kite? There are some pretty damn sophisticated ones there
        \_ Dreamcast is $200...who gives a damn if ps2 is coming out in
           just a few months?
                \_ Soul Calibur!
2000/6/1 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18381 Activity:very high
5/31    i find my boss very attractive. what do i do?
        \_ stop trolling.
        \_ bend her/him over her/his desk and fuck her/him
        \_ tie the boss up and fuck that person up the ass;  wear a
           dildo as necessary.
        \_ wear a thong, and then sue for sexual harrassment.
           \_ you mean threaten to sue for sexual harassment unless they
              submit to the anal sex
2000/5/31-6/1 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18374 Activity:insanely high
5/31    I am a shy; non GQ looking guy who has a mad crush on this girl
        in my class. I am white; she is Asian. How do I approach her
        ands not scare her off ?
        \_ What, you DON'T KNOW?  GEEZ.  And you all thought I was a scrawny
           asocial nerd;  now I've got my HAREM OF HOT ASIAN CHICKS!  --set
        \_ Wax on, Wax off.  -John
        \_ THOROUGH understanding of her culture is required. Saying
           I love you in Korean to a Flip girl will surely turn her off.
           Hang out with Asian guys, they're your window to understanding
           the Asian culture (and their cute little sisters).
                \_ Sisters, yes, asian chicks, no.  Reading about the poor
                   success rate of the other asian boys leads one to believe
                   that being white is the best way to get an asian chick.
        \_ You take your fingers, pull the corners of your eyes up, and say
           "see?  I'm curturarry sensitive shy non gq rooking white guy!"
                                                -Shy, nonGQ rooking white guy
        \_ "Hi, my name is Shy Non-GQ Guy. I noticed you in class. Would
            you like to grab some coffee and study for a couple hours?"
        \_ First, young dansielsan, before I can help tell me which one:
           a) HK'ese
           b) Taiwanese?
           \_ Are there any other types of asians besides a) and b)?
              \_ They all look the same to me.
        \_ ask her if she speaks "Asian".
        \_ forget about asian girls, they are generally hard to persue.
           It takes forever to get to kiss them.  Anything takes too long
           is not worth it.
           \_ They're sticklers for good spellers, too.
           \_ Asian chicks are as easy as the rest.  No problem.
        \_ Depends.  Giant lecture, small lecture, or small discussion?
           If it's a giant lecture it's not impossible but good luck.
           Otherwise you might have a shot.  Just sit down next to her
           and talk about the class.  If it's a semi-hard class maybe
                                                   \_ hehe. there's your
                                                      problem, man!
           ask her if you could study together (perhaps in the library
           or something).  Just try to start with random chit-chat.
           Don't be too overt.  Just talk about things that interests
           you (avoid any discussion about sex). And by all means, be
           polite (complement her, open doors for her so long as she's
           not an ultra-feminist, encourage her, etc...). Oh yeah, try
           to sound intellegent (hopefully you are).  People (guys and
                    \_ intelligent.  (You can see how dubious it is to be
                       asking the motd for advice).
           girls) generally don't respect people who base their beliefs
           off MTV or other teeny fad shows. With that said, don't try
                                \_ WATCH FELICITY. FELICITY IS THE STANDARD.
                                   \_ Buffy can kick Felicity's ass with
                                        both hands tied behind her back and
                                        her lesbian witch friends making out
                                        in the background.
                                        \_ Lesbian witches!
                                           \_ that's redundant. either way.
           to be someone you're not.  Just relax and be yourself.
           -- Asian Cal alumn who never got any in his 4 years at Cal.
                                                       \_ how about after?
                ________________________________________________________/
                \_ I just graduated.  I'm basically giving you the
                   advice I followed religiously throughout my 4 years
                   here.  It obviously doesn't work but I still do it
                   anyway just because I've grown used to it. Perhaps
                   this a good reason never to take advice from your
                   parents or your friends.
                   \_ This is the Christmas theory in action.  Keep up the
                      good work; you'll come into your own soon.
                      \_ Coming into your own... nah.
                   \_ Your advice sucks.  No wonder you graduated a virgin
                      from the Easy Sex campus of the universe.
           \_ I met this girl in 60A by saying, "Hey, we have the same
              calculator."
              \_ "Wow! You have a TI-85 too! I didn't think there was
                  anyone else here that had that calculator."
              \_ I envy you!  -- Another Asian Cal alumn who never picked up
                 any gal in class in his 4 years at Cal.
                 \_ You should've been white.  White guys never have any
                    problems picking up asian chicks.  Oh, Hoyt Sze, where
                    are you when your brothers need you???
        \_ you: "im not just an ordinary white guy, i'm a troll!"
           her: "what the hell are you talking about?"
           you: "go to http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/motd and you'll understand."
           her: "wow! you really are a troll! can i go out with you?"
            nothing to it!  god, it's good to be a troll.
        \_ ask her a question about class.  ask if she wants to study.
                \_ Duh.  Might as well not bother.
        \_Tell her you don't think her slit-eyes are funny looking.
        \_ Ask her to fuck.  She'll appreciate your straightforward manner.
        \_ first, stop talking like dans.  Only fools use "mad" in that sense.
           \_ hell, this IS dans
        \_ give up all hope, ya damn rice chaser!  -- Hoyt Sze worshipper
           and fellow slanty-eyed bastard who never got any in his 5.25
           years at Cal
           \_ Asian chicks prefer white guys, sorry but soy flavored china
              boy is out in this lifetime.
           \_ Ya, continue scratching your hairy monkey chest.  You will
              get a she-gorilla someday.
           \_ what does gorillas have anything to do with this?
              and why would i need a woman anyhow?  as a fellow sodan
              once said "you only want a cute gf b/c she's the best
              fasion accessory"   Fuck them all anyhow...I still have
              yet to meet any normal cute Asian woman who's not a
              total psychotic bitch or a total ho, or completely pro-
              filipino and anti- every other asian ethnicity
                \_ What's wrong with a psychotic chick?  If you want a chick
                   that isn't then you better hope there's an afterlife
                   because that's your last best hope for a sane chick of
                   any race.  Getting laid at Cal was eeeeeasy.  What the
                   hell is wrong with all you losers who went to Cal for
                   years and *wasted* it?  There's more to life than GPA.
                   Go get laid you stupid fucks!  It'll *never* be this
                   easy *ever* again.  I got laid all the time and graduated
                   with a C average after 5.5 years at Cal.  No one has ever
                   asked my GPA in industry.  For those wanting to go to grad
                   school... well... I guess you have a different calling in
                   life which doesn't involve sex or relationships anyway, so
                   you don't count.  The rest of you need to put down the
                   books and get lives.  -Cal alum disappointed in the
                        current generation of sexless losers
2000/5/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18348 Activity:nil
5/24    Follow up to the white-men+asian-women thread-- I like to date Asians
        \_ Rest deleted. Now, now, that's enough of that. williamc.
        \_ It's not whether you are white or yellow, but whether you are a
           cog.sci. major.  Dating a cog.sci major is like having a cog.sci.
           major partner in a CS class -- permanently!
2000/5/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18347 Activity:nil
5/24    Follow up to the white-men+asian-women thread-- I like to date Asians
        because white women are pure trash. They are usually fat,
        self-righteous, know-it-all, salad-loving, kitchen-hating,
        yuppie wannabe bitches. Asians are the best.            -white man
        \_ asian chicks are great if all you want is sex and foot rubs,
           and a maid, but there is more to life than those things. -white man 2
2000/5/24-26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18333 Activity:insanely high
5/24    Where can a white soda guy with a nice personality; but not GQ
        looks meet a nice Asian girl ? I'm not interested in cheap sex.
        \_ another rice-chaser...all you white eecs guys, from cal to
                |_ Ansd those are ??
           san diego.   Bring back Hoyt Sze!
        \_ "Have you tried these resources:

                Comparison shop for "Hoyt Sze"
        \_ Basically, you leer at them with this objectifying,
           fetishizing look and eventually one of them comes up to you
           and sucks your dick and walks on your back.
                \_ Happened like that to me.
        \_ I meet all kinds of nice Asian girls in my classes...
               \_ And those are ??
                        \_ Wouldn't you like to know. - successful white boy
                        \_ Get out of the all-male engineering/cs classes.  It
                           doesn't matter what.  Just take something an actual
                           real woman might take.
        \_ Sit in a coffee shop for a couple of days, and your magnetic
           personality and self-assured demeanor is sure to attract
           the girl you seek.
                - Yeah right; if you believe that line; then you
                  are too  stupid for soda
                \_ No wonder you can't get any women: you yourself don't
                   believe you will.
        \_ Take AsianScam like everyone else!
                #define AsianScam
        \_ Evil White Scum!  Leave our women to us!  I will hunt you down and
           gut you like the pig that you are! -Hoyt Sze (tm)
           \_ Geez, that was a while ago!
               \_ Wow, that *was* a while ago, thanks for reminding me
                  of that, that guy was really amusing...  (When was he
                  in the Daily Cal? Is there a page dedicated to him?)
                (who has to use his sister Felicia for a date still)
                                           \_ she has enough dates already
                                                \_ All white, btw.
                                                   \_ maybe 3/4
                \_ Supply and demand buddy
        \_ jj hates guys like you. Why can't you stick to your
           own kind and give poor guys like jj a chance with
           his kind.
              \_ while the first statement is true ranga, i don't
                 agree with the second.  multi-cultural is all good.
                    \_ I didn't post the orignal comment about jj,
                       but I thinks it pretty much accurate about
                       you jj. ----ranga
                 \_ God, you people sound dumb.
                 \_ multi cultural?  Oh god, get real.  It's all the same in
                    the sack.  A white guy with yellow fever is just following
                    his fetish.  It has nothing to do with culture.  As if a
                    3rd+ generation chick has any non-American culture in her.
        \_ That best buy commerical w/ those two white guys and asian chick
           is just shit
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                \_ HOYT!  YES!  I've met Hoyt.  No wonder all the Asian babes
                   are going for white guys.
           \_  When at Cal i thought Hoyte was a racist fuck, but now i see
            where he was coming from.  White culture has turned women into
            hypocritical nut-jobs who don't even know what they want
            (except perhaps everything) and many white men have found out
            that Asian women rock, leaving Asian men hard-pressed to find a
            good woman. -recently started dating an Asian girl (1st time)
                \_ It isn't our fault the Asian guys can't compete. --whitey
                   \_ It IS our fault 'cause us Whiteys failed to keep our
                      women in line and now that they are all feral we want
                      to go stealing other cultures' women.
                \_ So you are saying that the problem is not that asian
                   girls do not want asian guys but that asian guys do
                   not want white girls?
        \_ You idiots.  Asian guys are on a roll!
           http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/so/a16374-2000feb13.htm
                   \_ Umm, no.  Read the post again if you Still don't get it.
                      sign your name and i'll explain it to you in short
                      sentences and small words.
        \_ You idiots.  Asian guys are on a roll!
           http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/printed/us/so/a16374-2000feb13.htm

5 /24   Strip Poker at 11pm an USA.  Pretty much the reason
        television was invented
        \_ The show is almost un-watchable, though, because they keep showing
           guys getting undressed.  Don't they get it?!  Show the women!!!
                \_ Some of us like the guys.  -aspolito
                   \_ I love it when people speak for me. -aspo
                   \_ Never let your sex life influence your politics, or you
                      are just thinking with your balls.
        \_ What a STUPID show. Stupid questions. And everyone wears three
           layers of underwear and they dont even TAKE IT ALL OFF at the end.
2000/5/23-24 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Humor] UID:18319 Activity:nil
5/22    http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0005/encyc_mp3/index.cfm
        Funny. See if you can solve the mystery at the end.
        \_ Yes.  I can.
2000/5/13-15 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18255 Activity:insanely high
5/13    Is it ethical to date a Playmate of the Month who is
        already in a serious relationship? What if the guy
        she's with is a jerk?  Serious replies only, please.
        Thanks in advance. --same guy who asked the other PB question below.
        \_ The only thing more ridiculous than this post is the amount of
           replies it generated below.
        \_ Does it have anything to do with her being a Playmate?  Is it
           ethical in general to date a woman that's already in a
           relationship?
                \_ Fuck anyone you want.  If she fucks you back, go to Tang
                   both should be eliminated.
                   and get checked immediately.  She's been fucking everyone
                   else, too.
                   \_ you've just described what every frat boy and sorority
                      girl should be doing right now. how many greek
                      students do you think right now are hiv positive or
                      have some nasty std like herpes.
        \_ Is this the materialistic HK one or the snobby Taiwanese one?
           \_ don't you mean the snobby HK, and materialistic Taiwanese?
                \_ they are both materialistic and snobby.
                   both types should be eliminated.
                \_ don't you mean psycho, materialistic Taiwanese?
        \_ Some of us like that.  Just because you're too young to
                      know how to control a woman like that doesn't mean they
                      should be wiped out.
        \_ When I went to Berkeley, all the girls were ugly, and we only
           had ONE girl in PB, and that was in the Pac-10 issue and she
           wasnt even nekkid.
           \_ Fucking Gen-Y.  As Materialistic but not as postmodern and
              saps to boot.  And now they've got all these playmates
              running around the damn college.  What happened to the good
              old UC value of SUFFER GEEKBOY!
              \_ That should be UCB value (not general UC).
           \_ They still are ugly.  Nothing has changed.
        \_  They're not ALL ugly...that only applies to most of the
            engineering departments.
              \_ This guy knows because he's a 40-year-old alum still
                 olds who graduated and never left the city.
        \_ Boredcast Message from 'coganman': Thu Jul 27 12:33:03 1995
                 hanging around campus, hitting on the ugly 18-yo coeds
        this is funny, masturbatory soda geeks discussing sex.
        it's like colorblind people arguing over who has the pretties rainbow
        \_ Contrary to coganman's experience, numerous other geeks are having
           plenty of sex.
              \_ They're ALL ugly.  Wake up.  Open your eyes.  I think you're
                 comparing ugly 19 year olds on campus to their uglier 45 year

stupid coganman comment nuked
\_ YEAH!!  coganman == stupid!!!
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2000/5/12-14 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18249 Activity:insanely high
5/11    Brooke Mariko Berry brookie@uclink4
        Miss May 2000 Brooke Berry
        BUST: 36C WAIST: 24.5 HIPS: 34 HEIGHT: 5'8" BIRTH DATE: 3-7-80
        What's a "nice" restaurant to take a Playmate of the Month?
        Serious replies only, please. Thanks.
        \_ man, I feel OLD...
        \_ Of all the gin-joints in all cities in all the countries in
           the world she had to walk into yours.
        \_
http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tjb/igotaskedoutbyaplayboymodelbutturnedherdown.html
        \_ you're a few bits short of a word, aren't you?
        \_ My place
        \_ Miss June is even hotter: 34D 24 36 5'6".
        \_ Any pics for Brooke?  http://www.playboy.com only shows Miss June.
        \_ Really the same person!!!???
<DEAD>www5.playboy.com/playmates/recent/may00/english/playmate.html<DEAD>
(no nudity, sorry - but she is very Cute).
<DEAD>www5.playboy.com/entertainment/pbhv/playmate_profile/may00.html<DEAD>
(titties, but not so cute, sorry)
           \_ Yes, same person.
           \_ I have the pix. Can put into tmp space, but I dont want my
              login associated with them. -- read-it-for-the-articles
              \_ tar czvf pics.tgz pics | uuencode pics.tgz >> /etc/motd.public
           \_ if you put it in the tmp, it's not like everyone's going to call
              you a perv.  Playbody has well-written interviews and articles
              aside from air-brushed photos.
                \_ Do not do this idiot.  You'll find the whole fucking thread
                   purged in seconds.
        \_ dang...talk about high standards.  she's very cute all
           things considered.  tall.  slim. 36c, 36c, 36c!
                \_ A perfect cylinder?  And you don't have a cup rating for
                   hips and waist.
        \_ Ask that tmj guy what restaurant.
[there are, of course, more pictures if you are a member, but alas, i am not]
        \_ Where does Mariko come from?  She doesn't look Japanese.
        \_ Ask that tjb guy what restaurant.
           \_ she's probably only 1/8 or less
        \_ This is the one you want:
           <DEAD>www5.playboy.com/playmates/recent/may00/english/nude.html<DEAD>
        \_ Ask that tmj guy what restaurant.
        \_ Fucking losers, all of you
             \_ hey, at least we aren't all fucking puritans
                \_ I fucked a Puritan once.  Pretty much the same as anyone
                   else....
        \_ Let's assume for humor's sake that tjb isn't the liar we all
           know him to be.  Assuming that, all this proves is that women can
           be incredibly stupid and make *really* bad judgement calls when
            \_ where does it say that she's a drop out?  not everyone
               can get into cal in the department that they want.  sure,
           under the influence on alcohol or other drugs.
           \_ Ok, this from someone who lived in the same building as both
              of them last year:
              Yes, they went out. Yes, she hit on him. No, not under the
              influence. But the same statements applied to her and a large
              fraction of all other guys in the area.
              \_ Oh, so she was sleeping with anyone that would touch her, so
                 it's actually a big minus to have been with her, not a big
                 plus.  Avoid whores and you'll avoid a trip to Tang to get
                 your dick examined.  STD's are not your friend.  I wouldn't
                 be publicly gloating that I was with a chick that was with
                 30+ others the same semester if I was TJB.
              \_ I know of at least one other complete loser who was dating
                 her during her brief stay.  Extreme loser.
           \_ They actually went out. It wasn't a one-time deal. He dissed
              her though.
                \_Proving that boys have easy access to drugs and alcohol too.
       \_ hey, that's cool that a berkeley woman actually made it into
          playboy.  go bears...
                \_ No.  A drop out.  No big deal that some party chick in LA
                   got into PB.  Any idiot can get into Cal.  Any idiot can
                   drop out of Cal.  Any chick with big tits and gym time can
                   get into PB.  I don't see anything special here.
               it doesn't take much to get into l&s, but it does take
               a special breed of idiot to get maneuver into the cs department
                   \_ Hmmm.. let's see... she hasn't been in town for two years
                      and doesn't have a degree...  let's add 2+2 and see what
                      we get?  Maybe she's taking an extended leave to party
                      in LA for 5 or 10 years and plans to come back when she's
                      30 and worn out?  Ooookaaaaaay....  She's a dropout.
                      \_ No she's not. She *was* here two years ago, so shut
                         the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking
                         about. She's taking a year off but plans on coming
                         back and getting her BA and a masters to boot.
                         \_ Idiot.  How can she be planning on taking a year
                            off when she's already been gone for 2 years?  So
                            that'll be 3 years off total?  Her PB bio didn't
                            say anything about coming back, either.  It was
                            chock full of, "I LOVE GETTING LAID IN L.A.!"  I
                            also 'plan' to do become the first emperor of the
                            United States but that doesn't mean I will be or
                            anyone should take my plans seriously.  How much
                            more naive can you get?
                   \_ Not any chick with big tits and gym time can get into
                      Playboy. Do porn, maybe... but there are lots of chicks
                              \_ Spenking for yourself.
                      that do porn that aren't playboy caliber. You're a
                      trolling moron.
                        \_ Kona Carmack has small tits and she got into PB
                        \_ Gym/tits = playboy.  PB is the same chick over n
                           over n over.  It certainly isn't the best looking
                           women.
                           \_ what is gym divided by tits?  does that mean
                              that you have to have the proper proportion
                              of gym and tits to get into playboy?
                \_ I can't believe you guys are even thinking about arguing
                   about who gets into PB. How stupid. Y'all remind me of
                   \_ wad pad'uv texas ya fom?
                      \_ What the fuck is that supposed to be?  If you're
                         seriously selling that crap as an accent, you
                         LOSE.
                                - native texan
                   these two fat construction workers I overheard on BART
                   talking about how Demi Moore wasn't their type, but they'd
                   do her if they had the chance. As if.
                        \_ We're also not hanging out with fat BART
                           construction workers so maybe your opinions aren't
                           as valuable as you seem to think.
                           \_ Right, motd posters are far superior.
                              \_ Speaking for yourself.
                              \_ Actually, yes.  They are.  Any questions?
        \_ Boredcast Message from 'coganman': Thu Jul 27 12:33:03 1995

        this is funny, masturbatory soda geeks discussing sex.
        it's like colorblind people arguing over who has the pretties rainbow
2000/5/12 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18248 Activity:nil
5/11    I'm horny and need to get laid. Can anyone recommend a good
        hooker?
        \_ http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tjb/hooker-recs.html
           \_ 403 Forbidden. was this a joke?
        \_ <DEAD>www.imhornyandneedtogetlaid.com<DEAD>
        \_ http://www.lovings.com
2000/5/11-12 [Recreation/Food, Recreation/Dating] UID:18241 Activity:insanely high
5/10    Where's a nice first date place to impress a "nice" woman.
        Serious replies please.
        \- you know if you want a serious reply, ask a serious question.
        you need to specify location, price and some sense of genre ...
                \_ SF would be good.
        morton's steakhouse in SF is much different from a $20 sushi place
        \_ Farallon, Aqua, Postrio, LuLu...all in SF though.
        in the south bay. --psb
        \_  the only thing impressive about most restaurants around here
            is the price of dinner vs. what you actually get...
            don't overdo it on the first date, it's not worth it.
        \_ is it generally a good idea to go to a very nice restaurant
           on a first date before really knowing the other person?  I think
           a more casual first date would be better.
           \_ BINGO! a truely "nice" woman isnt looking to be impressed.
               That's for your average gold-digging bimbo.
                \_ yup, perhaps leave a nice restaurant for the time when
                   you plan to get more serious with the person.
        \_ If you want to impress a woman, do so with your intelligence and
           wit, or if you don't have that, you could settle for your looks.
           Nothing else would work, certainly not a restaurant.
           \_ while this is true, having a good atmosphere helps provide
              a nice setting
              \_ A normal cafe is a perfectly good setting for a nice,
                 intelligent discussion.
                 \_ very true.  But mentioned below, sounds like the person
                    may be visiting and she seems to like going out.  I think
                    we may have to know the personality of the person the
                    poster is taking out.
                    \_ She may have said she likes going out in order not to
                       appear boring.  People play these sorts of charades with
                       each other all the time.  Some people date for years,
                 Bay, and it's quiet unlike Oliveto.  But then taking her to
                 a hotel might make her think that you're implying something.
                 -- yuen
                       and still never know what their SO truly wants or
                       likes.
                        \_ Don't play guessing games.  If she says something,
                           take it at face value.  Stupid mind reading game
                           playing idiocy is why people date for years or
                           even get married and still never know what their SO
                           truly wants or likes.  If she can't tell you the
                           truth on something so basic about herself, then
                           what sort of relationship are you going to have?
                           If it's just about sex, then who cares what she
                           likes?  --doesn't play ESP head games, did well
                           \_ Just because guessing games are lame doesn't mean
                              they don't exist, or they should be ignored by
                              burying one's head in the sand.  A human being
                              is a lying animal.  Taking things at face value
                              because the alternative seems hard to swallow
                              is ... naive and stupid.
                                \_ Obviously games exist.  By playing you only
                                   make it worse.  It's stupid.  By always
                                   being upfront that I don't play games and
                                   then living it consistently, I was very
                                   successful in avoiding all the fucking
                                   nut heads and liars and other time wasting
                                   bimbos.  There _are_ women who don't play
                                   kiddy head games.  Those are the ones you
                                   want a relationship with.  The rest are
                                   good for casual sex and nothing else.  I
                                   take it at face value to teach them not to
                                   fuck with me.  It works really well.  The
                                   super head cases flee, the dumb ones never
                                   "get it" and the smart ones quickly figure
                                   out correct behavior and adjust.  It's
                                   very Darwinian and works great.  Have fun
                                   trying to sort out the whacky losers from
                                    the real women with your method.
                                   \_ Taking things at face value doesn't make
                                      you noble, it makes you a sucker.  You
                                      may have gotten lucky by not getting
                                      seriously screwed by a cold-hearted
                                      player, but if you keep with this
                                      'strategy' of yours, you eventually
                                      will be screwed.  Human beings lie.  You
                                      can take what they say at face value,
                                      or tell them to be honest, but they will
                                      lie anyways.  It's life.  Don't be a
                                      sucker.
                                      \_ I agree with the other poster.
                                         Personally, I would like a woman
                                         who is honest with me and vice-versa.
                                         No head games.  It feels so much
                                         better (for a healthy relationship)
                                         \_ I also agree that honest women
                                            are better, and a healthy
                                            relationship has no games.  I
                                            don't like games.  I am just
                                            recognizing a fact of life that
                                            liars exist, and they cannot be
                                            ignored.  Some of them are even
                                            very good, and pose as 'honest
                                            women.'
        \_ You could cook dinner for her.
                \ I thought  of that; but she is from HK; and likes going out
                 and I thought iinviting to  my apartment might be too
                 forward.
       \_  uh-oh...HK;  that almost necessarily means super-high maintenance.
           HK's typically expect you to buy stuff and pay for everything,
           so be careful.  Something about HK's that seem common:  they
           always complain about how boring life is in the bay area and
           how they want to be back in socal or hong kong where everything's
           on at all hours of the morning.  you want that?
                 \_ Ohhh.. then its another matter. She's just a party
                     girl who likes going to clubs and having guys
                     pay her way. So, decide whether you want to
                     pay along and MAYBE get sex, or just not play
                     her game, and take her to someplace reasonable.
                     Chances of something serious are small.
                     \_ likes going out doesn't necessarily mean seedy person.
                        Going out can be hanging out in cafes, ballroom
                        dancing, going to nice, comfortable eating places,
                        and others.
                 \_ Never date HK woman!  They are the most materialistic
                    women in the world.
                        \_ Well, since I married one; I'm screwed...
                    \_ I agree.  Try Taiwanese woman instead.  -- HK guy
                        \_ Taiwanese women rule! -- white guy
                \_ I dont see many Taiwanese women with white guys like me
                   and they tend to be very snobby.
                        \_ You need to try out some of those butt poking
                           Taiwanese men.
                        \_ Why ? I dont want my butt poked...
        \_ what area in the bay area?  Try not to overdo it on the first
           date too...
                \_ SF restaurants would be good.
                        \_ The Stud
                        \_ Delancey St. Restaurant on Embarcadero is
                           really good, nice view, not expensive.
                           And it's for a great cause.
        \_ Restaurants I assume: Farallon, Aqua, Postrio, LuLu...
           all in SF though.
            \_ Postrio is a terrible place for a date.  -tom
        \_ If you live in Berkeley, an East Bay restaurant might be
           preferable. There are several good restaurants on College Ave.
           Garibaldi's, Nava, Citron, Bay Wolf, and Trattoria La Siciliana
           to name a few. There's also Mazzini Trattoria on Telegraph, but
           I haven't been there. Any comments on the place?
           \_ Bay Wolf is on Piedmont, not College.
              And you left out the best of the bunch, Oliveto.  -tom
              \_ Oliveto was intentionally left out.
           \_ The restaurant in Claremont Hotel has very nice view of the
              Bay, and it's quiet.  But then taking her to a hotel might make
              her think that you're implying something.  -- yuen
                \_ unless yer a sensitive homosexual, the whole point of
                   going out with a girl is to sleep w/ her, duh!
                   \_ Even if that's what the guy thinks, he shouldn't let
                      her know on the first date, right?
                        \_ Duh, she knows it!  Damn, you're dense.  Where do
                           you little boys get the idea that women don't know
                           what's up and are just this puzzle to be solved?
                           I'm going to stop now before I go off for a page
                           about women-as-people and geeks-as-virgins.
        \_ I would find out if she likes sushi and take her to a sushi bar,
           maybe Kirala.  Environment is perfect to talk, sushi is ok.
           \_ What makes Kirala "perfect to talk"?  The din is overwhelming.
           \_  Agreed;  too hot and too  noisy.  the cafe idea sounds better
             ...someplace where you won't come out smelling like your dinner.
        \_ Bay Wolf: 50+ crowd, Kirala: 50+ mins wait. Obelisque (right
                across Citron) is the best in East Bay.
        \_ you could take her to Chez My CROTCH.
                \_ That is where I take yermom
                \_ Only if you want to starve her on the first date.
        \_ Is it true that for an Asian HK woman you should just
            take the date as casual ? Or should you try to act like your 30 ?
        \_ I hope this has taught you not to ask such a question on the motd.
        \_  why buy a steak when you can get the steak for free?
2000/5/9-10 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:18207 Activity:insanely high
5/8     I'm bored, anyone have good interview questions to ask?
        \_ if (a ^ 2 + b ^ 2) / (1 + a * b) = n, where n is an integer, then
           there exists an integer m, such that m ^ 2 = n.  Prove.  -- ilyas
           \_ n = 1.  m = 1.  a = 1.  b = 1.
        \_ "Do you eat pussy?"
        \_ "So tell me about yourself."
        \_ "So, tell me your greatest strength and your greatest weakness."
           I love that one.  That's the point where I know I'm interviewing
           at the wrong place and try to get out ASAP without being an
           \_ /tmp/13coins. -- ilyas
              \_ Quit wasting VM. Put this in /csua/tmp
           asshole to anyone.
           \_ you need to know if you are looking for a heavier one or
              a lighter one.
           \_ What exactly do you do or say to get out ASAP without being an
           asshole to anyone?
           \_ Don't ask any serious questions about the company, maybe blow
              off the tour by saying you'll have more time on the second
              interview, stuff like that.  Shorten it but don't outright flee.
              The industry is both big and small.  Never know when you'll see
              those same people again and you can laugh with them about how
              bad that company was (assuming they've quit by that point too).
        \_ Let's say you have 13 billiard balls.  One of them is slightly
           heavier, or slightly lighter, than the other 12.  You have a two-
           pan scale.  How can you tell, in three weighings, which ball is
           the defective ball?
           \_ This puzzle appeared in the adventure game "Spellcaster",
              although I believe only 12 objects were involved.
           \_ /csua/tmp/13coins. -- ilyas
           \_ Throw the billiard balls at the interviewer's head.  It's
              \_ How to F everybody and still come out clean?
              likely that the defective one will leave a less massive
              bloody headwound than the other 12.  When you suspect, based
              on the reduced amount of bloody skull splinters and gore, that
              you have just thrown the defective one, un-wedge it from the
              interviewer's cranium and weigh it.  With a bit of attention,
              you should be able to guess it in 2 tries max.  -John
           \_ 1. Weigh six on six.  If it is balanced, then the 13th ball
                 not weighed is the one.
              \_ Uh ... yes, that's right.  Please continue.
           \_ You need to know if you are looking for a heavier one or a
              lighter one.
              \_ Wrong.  Please try again.
                \_ No you are wrong.  Assuming it isn't #13 when you weigh
                   those last two out of three you have a 2/3rds chance of
                   having the bad one on the scale.  In that case you need
                   to know if the bad one is heavier or lighter.
                   \_ Please talk to ilyas.  Or, ilyas, please talk.
                      \_ The man can read as well as you or I, he is just
                         trolling. -- ilyas
           \_ Isn't this a pretty hard problem for an interview?  I know
              that at least the 12 billiard ball problem requires much
              more organization and lucidity of thought that a 20 minute
              interview would allow.
              \_ Yes.  I thought someone was bored.
        \_ muchandr first told me this one, he said this was asked at an
           investment bank interview.  In this puzzle, we have two men, two
           women, and two condoms, in a room.  The puzzle is to figure out a
           way for each man to have sex with each woman in such a way that
           no transfer of fluids between any two parties takes place. -- ilyas
           \_ I guess this is an appropriate question for investment bankers?
                \_ Yup.  Ever seen those hot little asian business chicks at
                   on-campus interview day in their mini-mini fuck-me outfits?
                   \_ Yeah, but do you ever get to work with/on them if you
                      join a IB?
                        \_ If they believe you can advance their career in
                           some way, yes.
                   \_ The hottest women worked for JP Morgan. None were
                      Asian, but so what? It almost makes one wonder what
                      the requirements are to be a "recruiter" there.
                      They must want recruits to believe they *won't* be
                      working with 55 year old men who wear only navy blue
                      suits and smell like Old Spice. --dim
           \_ Men: A,B. Women: a,b. Condoms: 1,2. Solution: (4 steps)
                1: A->1->2->a
                2: A->1->b
                3: B->2->a
                4: B->2->1->b
             ... and they told us to never double up condoms in Health class.
              \_ ... and never re-use condoms.
              \_ Who doesn't mind being B?  Yucks!
                 \_ jj
        \_ on a scale of 1-10 (ten being the best), how do you rate yourself
           in terms of C++ coding (C, Perl, etc.)?
           \_ 11.  For all of them.
                \_ shows confidence, which is good, but perhaps way too
                        cocky for team unity?
        \_ borg cube vs. death star. who wins? -ali
           \_ That's not a fair comparison! It should be cube vs star destroyer!
                \_ Death star.  Ever seen a BC fire one blast at a planet
                   and destroy it?  Not carrything that kind of firepower.
                   Also, not using the force.
                   |_ The force is irrelevant.
                      \_ I find your lack of faith disturbing.  - Vader
                         \_ I have heard this countless times from
                            countless speices. Now they are all M$
                            subsidaries, uh I mean, borg.
                                \_ Until the DoJ gets done with them.
           \_ Kirk vs. Han Solo -> who can get more?
                \_ Kirk got it all the time.  What'd Solo ever get?
           \_ Luke vs. Wesley vs. Nog vs. Jar-Jar vs. Young Anakin vs. Alexander
              Pick three to kill. Justify sparing the others.
                \_ remove Alexander, Jar-Jar, Wesley (who's Nog?)
                   \_ Who is Alexander?
                \_ Sorry, I'd kill them all due to inability to justify.
       \_ Steve Ballmer vs. Larry Ellison, who wins?
          \_ depends on which company is interviewing you
             \_ Good point. I was thinking of a non-aligned power.
          Kirk vs. Picard, who wins?
          Linux vs. *BSD, who wins?
          HPUX vs. AIX, aren't you glad there is Solaris?
          Quebec Frenchies vs. French Frenchies, whose more wako?
2000/5/7 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18197 Activity:nil
5/7     http://www.girlfriendstealer.com is a cool site. I'm doing well right now
        and I shall have her next week.
        \_ Good thing she doesn't have a choice in the matter.  Go dans!
2000/5/6-7 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18186 Activity:insanely high
4/35    Is it ethical to date a girl who is in a serious relationship?
        P.S. her bf is a major f*** luzer. Does that make a difference?
        \_ Sure.  Just as long as he's willing to have a twosome.
        \_ Sure.  Just as long as he's willing to have a threesome.
        \_ If it's a question of honor, just ask yourself ... "What
        \_ OH, yeah.  Of course it's OK.  I have no doubt that you are
           rescuing this girl from a fate worse than death.  You go,
           Romeo.  "Et tu, luzer?"
        \_ Just give the BF luzer an offer he can't refuse.
           -Michael Corleone
           would Worf do?"  If it's a question of being cool, ask
           yourself ... "What would Fonzie do?"  Those guidelines
           apply to everything in life.
        \_ don't bother to read this next bunch of crap, and fuck the bitch
        \_ Maybe she's just confused and wants to make the bf jealous
           so that he'll show his love for her by kicking your ass.
           Once she's "woken him up" and made him "realize how much
           he really loves her", she'll dump you like
           already.  Dumbass.
        \_ Is it ethical for the woman who is in
           a serious relatiosnhip to be dating you? wtfyta?
        \_ http://www.girlfriendstealer.com
        \_ If you can stand the CHAOS (re: drdrew), then always remember to
           be the GUEST STAR -- so BRING a friend.  (Sex and the City). -robin
        \_ Look, she's not married to him, right?  She's willing to date?
           There's a reason why she's willing to date, because she wants
           something better than what she's got.  Is it unethical to offer
           her something better than what she's got?
        \_ If you don't mind some other guy in the future thinking the
           same way about you and her, go for it.
        \_ If she fools around on her current bf, who's to say she won't do
           the same thing to you?
        \_ Ethics has nothing to do with it.  She has free will.  You're not
           do anything she doesn't already want to do.  Don't be an egotist.
           forcing her to do anything.  Even if married, she has the right and
           option to get a divorce.  You do not have the power to 'make' her
           do anything she doecsn't already want to do.  Don't be an egotist.
           Don't be a manly prince doing The Right Thing by following some
           bizarre standard of ethics only you adhere to.  Don't be the
           patronising idiot you sound like.  She has a choice in the matter.
           It's *always* ok.  Even to pursue a married woman.  She has the
           option to tell you to fuck off if not interested.  I'm a married
           man and have no problem knowing my wife is getting hit on at work
           you want this woman.  If you thought the boyfriend was an OK guy,
           everyday by both men and women.  They have the right to try and
           yourself.
           she has the power to blow them off.
        \_ My rule on this is simple: don't break up a good thing.  Besides
           the obvious meaning, there is the underlying belief that, if you
           break up a good thing, someone else will come along and break up
           something good that you have later.  This raises the question of
           how do you tell if something is a good thing?  If the bf is a
           luzer, then I'd say no, but don't be so quick to make that
           judgement.  Of course you think the boyfriend is a luzer-- afterall,
           you want this girl.  If you thought the boyfriend was an OK guy,
           then you'd have a much harder time justifying your actions to
           yourself.  Ask a friend what he/she thinks, perhaps a mutual friend
           of yours and the girl you're interested in.  Better yet, ask the
           girl about the bf.  There's almost always a bit of idealizing that
           goes on when describing a significant other, but you'll probably be
           able to tell pretty quickly whether the faults outweigh the
           benefits.  One last thing: corollary to my rule that you shouldn't
           break up a good thing.  You're obligated to break up a bad thing.
           -dans
           \_ You're confused.  You *cant* break up a good thing.  You don't
              have that power.  Your entire line of reasoning is patronising
              and demeans her ability to choose for herself.  She may be with
              the biggest loser on the planet but choose to stay with him no
              matter what you do.  She may be with the biggest winner and
              leave him for a total loser like you.  Again, it's because she
              has chosen to do so.  Making yourself available and pursuing her
              has *zero* ethical implications for the guy hitting on her. None.
              Zip.  Nil.  She has free will.  Stop your patronising bullshit.
              She'll stay or go as she pleases no matter what you decide, do,
              or think.  She isn't an object.  No wonder so many young men
              have such a hard time getting laid.  You completely and totally
              fail to comprehend this one simple fact.  She's a person.
              As far as your theory about someone else coming along later if
              you do it now.. that's total bullshit. Your actions now have
              absolutely no bearing on what some other guy will do down the
              line.  There is no cause/effect relationship between you and
              the future actions of an unknown individual.
              \_ I think dans is saying "This is the way I think people
                 should do it," and the responder is saying "That's what
                 you think, but don't feel guilty if you want to hit on a
                 spouse, because that person can decide on their own."
              \_ What the free will wanker is missing is that free will is not
                 a given.  She can think for herself?  I don't take that for
                 granted.  And no, I'm not being sexist.  Plenty of guys can't
                 think for themselves either.  And even if someone generally
                 has a good head on his/her shoulders in day to day life, most
                 people get all fucked up when it comes to relationships, and
                 there capacity to decide goes out the window.  In immature
                 relationships (and one can't judge if the relationship in
                 question is mature or not without more information), one
                 person usually has a not wholly insignificant degree of
                 control over the other.  In said situation, the "other" has
                 had his/her will subverted, and it cannot accuartely be said
                 that he/she can think for him/herself when the relationship
                 is concerned.  Hence, the obligation to break up a bad thing.
                 Free will is a choice.  Even if you are born free, which,
                 despite your rosy enlightenment-inspired worldview, is not
                 guaranteed, you are only free so long as your will is YOUR
                 will.  This is not always the case. -dans
                 \_ Say what?  Being with someone has zapped them of their
                    free will?  Do you even know what free will is?  Unless
                    drugged or put through a Soviet era brain washing program,
                    she has free will.  You're a patronising idiot.
              \_  You're basically correct, but you're missing the other
                  implications of the fact that she can think for herself.
                  From how I read the original question, he asked "is it
                  ok to date a girl..." not "is it ok to hit on a girl..."
                  The implication being that he can DEFINATLY date her,
                  presumeably because her bf is such a goon.  But that
                  raises the question of, why doesn't she just dump him?
                  If the guy is so bad, she should just flat out dump him,
                  not go looking for people on the side.  The fact that
                  hasn't just dumped him means she hasn't got he head on
                  straight, and you shouldn't date her because she's a
                  fruitcake, not because it's not ethical.  And no, I
                  \_ There's a big difference between "should I?" for silly
                     pseudo-ethical reasons and "should I date a nutcase?"
                     Some of us like nut heads.  That's just a personal
                     preference and is an entirely different issue.  Her
                     current relationship status has nothing to do with her
                     state of nuttiness.  -likes em nutty
        \_ Actually I just want to sleep with her and see what it is like.
           I don't want an actual relationship. AdviceP?
           \_ Hahahahahahaha.  This is the question about "ethics" you had?
              Forget about the girl, you should go hook up with Alanis
              Morissette and start making "ironically ethical" babies
              left, right, and center.  -- alice
                \_ *LAUGH*  I agree.  To ask about ethics and all this other
                   philosophical bullshit when all he really wanted was the
                   motd's permission to get off is pretty fucked.  The boy
                   needs to grow up or just visit a hooker if he wants to
                   know what sex feels like.  I don't think Alanis is
                   available any time soon, though.
           \_ Fuck ethics and whatever else you want then.
              You could die tomorrow, why waste an opportunity to live
              and share some loving and pleasure (however brief) with
              another human being? Unless, of course, it permanently
              maims/disfigures/diseases you.
                  don't care how beutiful or kinky she is, crazy girls is
                  trouble.  -jrleek
                        \-Should you steal your friend's CDs while he is taking
                        a shower? He has free will and can lock up his CDs.
                        What if he is a wanker or stole the CDs in the first
                        place? what if he stole them from someone who is a
                        wanker? What if he didnt like the CD and it is your
                        favorite CD?
2000/5/2 [Recreation/Dating, Consumer/PDA] UID:18154 Activity:nil
5/1     I have a Palm IIIx, it has the annoying problem of the date getting
        messed up.  I.e. today I turn it on and it says that it's 4/27.
        The time is correct but the date is wrong.  Anybody else have this
        problem?  Should I sync it more often with my PC in order to get the
        correct date?
        \_ synch it with the motd! 5/1, babee!!!
        \_ I never experienced this problem with my pilot or PalmV.  AFAIK,
           syncing with your PC does not cause the date/time to be adjusted
           to that of your PC. -dans
        \_ You're losing power.  Charge it more.  This is a Palm FAQ.
        \_ I have this problem too, even with new batteries.
                \_ You're losing power.  Charge it more.  This is a Palm FAQ.
2000/4/27-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18132 Activity:high
4/27    This guy has been using our color xerox late at night to make copies
        of quality porn. Should I report him, or share the wealth?
        \_ If they're of kchang, share the wealth.
        \_ does it really have better print quality than hustler?
           Either the guy is broke, or dumb, or he has a business
           seling cheaply printed porn on the side.
        \_ Anonymously turn his ass in.
           \_ but how will you convince him to sit on the xerox?
                \_ Point him towards http://www.goatse.cx  -John
2000/4/27-28 [Recreation/Dating, Reference/Law/Court, Transportation] UID:18127 Activity:nil
4/26    http://www.peacefire.org/staff/bennett/autodave
2000/4/18 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Food] UID:18041 Activity:high
4/17    Know of a restaurant where one can have a relatively private
        conversation (ie booths)? All of the places I know of are
        pretty out-in-the-open.
        \_ Try some classy Italian restaurants. They always make tables
           easy to hold private conversations for the purposes of
           mofia business.
        \_ The last time I was at venezia it was so loud you had to lean
           over the table and yell to be heard.  It's out in the open but
           oddly private.
        \_ Raleigh's has one "booth".
           \_ correction: two.  and if this IS a sex act thing (see
              below) I would highly discourage raleigh's since one
              whole side is open and practically at eye level due to a
        \_ Black Angus is known for their ~ 270 degree circular enclosing
              step.
              \_ This may be a positive depending on what kind of sex thing.
        \_ I like rivoli.
                \_ hardly private.
        \_ Black Anus is known for their ~ 270 degree circular enclosing
           booths.  Probably have to go when they're not busy to get one
           for two people though.
        \_ Ichiban sushi, Shattuck, across from crapi-ko
        \_ Is this a public sex act sort of thing?  Lemme know which place you
           decide on and I'll give you a copy of the video at cost.
           \_ Sorry, not a sex thing, just business stuff.
                \_ "Everybody be cool, this is a robbery!"
2000/4/12-13 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Media] UID:17991 Activity:moderate
4/12    Just saw American Beauty.  Somebody told me that the name is that of a
        rose.  And then I realized that roses are in almost every single scene.
        Does anybody know of other symbolisms in the movie?  Thanks.
                \_ are you really this stupid?
        \_ oh yeah! Kevin Spacey wants to de-flower is daughter's friend.
        \_ oh yeah... Kevin Spacey wants to de-flower his daughter's friend.
2000/3/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17862 Activity:high 66%like:17855
3/25    Nothing is better than Sex.
        Masturbation is better than nothing.
        Therefore, Masturbation is better than Sex. --/usr/games/fortune
        \_ You know, when I see 'zero-knowledge freedom' up in motd.official
           it makes me think of sodans on the motd.
        \_ You are so right.  Go ahead and masturbate.  All the time.
           Don't ever look at women, they are not for you. - paolo
        \_ Hey...while we're on the subject...what's the best lube
           for masturbation?
             \_ In some ways beating off is better than sex. He can't
              get some poor girl pregnant and screw up her entire
              life by beating off. Also no STDs. And if he keeps it
              private, his enemies can't use it to black mail him.
              \_ Uhm. Ever heard of Pee Wee Herman?
                 \_ Or George Michael?
              \_ You don't "get some poor girl pregnant".  Sex outside of rape
                 is a mutual responsibility.  She isn't a "victim".  And from
                 your wording you imply that once pregnant _he_ has no
                 further obligation or duty to help take care of _his_ child.
                 The law will say otherwise.  Use multiple methods of birth
                 control or stop having sex with random women.  Otherwise be
                 prepared to pay and pay and pay for 18 years.  You *will* be
                 paying.  Good luck!
                 \_ Women (and esp. girls (IMHO under 25 is a girl)) in his
                    age group) have a heavier burden in terms of child bearing
                    and rearing than men. If he has sex (birth control is not
                    100%) and gets some girl pregant, he won't have to carry
                    the baby for nine months and deal with all of the physical
                    and emotional compliations that can result in pregancy.
                    If they are both in school, he can stay in classes while
                    she will probably have to skip a semester or more to care
                    for the kid, thus kissing her future good bye. Even if she
                    decides to abort, he doesn't have to endure that medical
                    procedure. I agree that if he fathers a child then he has
                    a responsiblity to care for the child, I did not mean to
                    imply that he does not have this responsibility. The only
                    problem with this is that the law only holds him financially
                    responsible for the child. A child needs much more than a
                    monthly check and clearly he (and probably the girl that
                    he has sex with) are not prepared to provide that. I think
                    that he should refrain from sexual activities with live
                    women (inflatable probably okay) until he gets married.
        \_ My God!  That's so deep!  Who would have guessed that someone with
           the wisdom of a Socrates was a csua member?
2000/3/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17855 Activity:very high 66%like:17862
3/25    Nothing is better than Sex.
        Masturbation is better than nothing.
        Therefore, Masturbation is better than Sex.
        \_ You know, when I see 'zero-knowledge freedom' up in motd.official
           it makes me think of sodans on the motd.
        \_ You are so right.  Go ahead and masturbate.  All the time.
           Don't ever look at women, they are not for you. - paolo
           \_ In some ways beating off is better than sex. He can't
              get some poor girl pregnant and screw up her entire
              life by beating off. Also no STDs. And if he keeps it
              private, his enemies can't use it to black mail him.
              \_ You don't "get some poor girl pregnant".  Sex outside of rape
                 is a mutual responsibility.  She isn't a "victim".  And from
                 your wording you imply that once pregnant _he_ has no
                 further obligation or duty to help take care of _his_ child.
                 The law will say otherwise.  Use multiple methods of birth
                 control or stop having sex with random women.  Otherwise be
                 prepared to pay and pay and pay for 18 years.  You *will* be
                 paying.  Good luck!
                 \_ Women (and esp. girls in his age group) have a heavier
                    burden in terms of child bearing and child rearing than
                    men. If he has sex (birth control is not 100%) and gets
                    some girl pregant, he won't have to carry the baby for
                    nine months and deal with all of the physical and emotional
                    compliations that result from pregancy. If they are both
                    in school, he can stay in classes while she will probably
                    have to skip a semester or more to care for the kid, thus
                    kissing her future good bye. Even if she decides to abort,
                    he doesn't have to endure that medical procedure. I agree
                    that if he fathers a child then he has a responsiblity to
                    care for the child, I did not mean to imply that he does
                    not have this responsibility. The only problem with this
                    is that the law only holds him financially responsible
                    for the child. A child needs much more than a monthly
                    check and clearly he (and probably the girl that he has
                    sex with) are not prepared to provide that.
                 \_ Women (and esp. girls (IMHO under 25 is a girl)) in his
                    age group) have a heavier burden in terms of child bearing
                    and rearing than men. If he has sex (birth control is not
                    100%) and gets some girl pregant, he won't have to carry
                    the baby for nine months and deal with all of the physical
                    and emotional compliations that can result in pregancy.
                    If they are both in school, he can stay in classes while
                    she will probably have to skip a semester or more to care
                    for the kid, thus kissing her future good bye. Even if she
                    decides to abort, he doesn't have to endure that medical
                    procedure. I agree that if he fathers a child then he has
                    a responsiblity to care for the child, I did not mean to
                    imply that he does not have this responsibility. The only
                    problem with this is that the law only holds him financially
                    responsible for the child. A child needs much more than a
                    monthly check and clearly he (and probably the girl that
                    he has sex with) are not prepared to provide that. I think
                    that he should refrain from sexual activities with live
                    women
                    until he is
                    married.
        \_ My God!  That's so deep!  Who would have guessed that someone with
           the wisdom of a Socrates was a csua member?
2000/3/24-25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17848 Activity:very high
3/24    Albums with hidden tracks?  I know that one of Nirvana's albums
        had one.  Same with Jewel (or is that Sarah Mc.)
        \_ Nirvana Nevermind had the hidden track. Green Day Dookie also has
           one. Cracker and about a million other bands also have hidden tracks
                \_ any of them become very popular?
                \_ Whoa!  That is leik so kewl!  How can I play them?!!?!11
        \_ STOP posting your homework to the goddamn MOTD!!
           \_ How do you know this is hw? And what kind of class would this
              be for?
                \_ Some lame stupid fuzzy major where you smoke out with the
                   Prof and TA for higher grades if you bring good pot.
                   \_ You mean the sciences. In the arts they have casual
                      sex for higher grades.
                        \_ Not even Cal TAs are desperate enough to swap a
                           passing grade for sex with a Cal co-ed.  Yuck.
                        \_ definitely not in the EECS department....or
                           any of the engineering disciplines for that
                           matter, especially CE and ME.  Woof Woof.
                           \_ but of course the typical male EECS major is
                              a major stud.  -tom
                        \_ And most of them use lithium, too.  So?
                                \_ Even if you could screw your way through
                                   EECS, it wouldn't do you any good.  It isn't
                                   like it matters that the chick in the HR or
                                   marketing department fucked her way through
                                   school.  For marketing, that's a good thing
                                   anyway.  Goes double for sales.  What do you
                                   think all the fuzzy major chicks are doing
                                   after school anyway?  Business is even worse
                                   than sales.  Sex is almost mandatory for a
                                   successful career.  Anyway, I doubt tom is
                                   the best source of information for what
                                   women are looking for in a man anyway. Maybe
                                   less trek = better & more women?  Naaaah....
                        \_ my math prof smokes pot
                                \_ No.  Your math prof takes lithium to stay
                                   semi stable.
                        \_ who?
2000/3/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17803 Activity:insanely high
3/19    Do people here actually go out of their way to watch movies
        like "The Insider" or "Erin Brockavich"? (whistleblower type of movies)
        \_ Julia Roberts is hot.
        \_ No, Julia Roberts is HOT.
           \_ I just saw contact for the first time.  it was really gorgeous
              but then again I've always liked jodi foster ever since Freaky
              Friday, or that teen-hooker movie she made after disney.
              \_ I wonder if Julia thinks Jodie is hot and vice-versa.
                 \_ I think there should be a lesbian sex movie.
                    \_ There is.  Thelma and Louise.  I don't think you
                       want to see it though.
-------->  "women love women" with ellen degeneres and SHARON STONE.
                also, catherine deneuve and susan sarandon have a lesbien
sex scene in "the hunger"
                \_ Oh please, just go rent a porno.  Download one off the net
                   if you don't want a lesbo flick on your CC records.  It'll
                   be a lot more interesting and sexy than seeing a pig like
                   Ellen Degeneres with _anyone_.  The scene from the hunger
                   was ok but really now.  Or better yet just ask your gf/wife
                   to bring her best friend around.
                   \_ always a risky move. She might get sucked in to
                      the dark side.
                        \_ Hardly.  If so then she would've done it sooner or
                           later anyway.  It isn't like there aren't plenty of
                           opportunities for it.  My wife gets hit on about
                           3 times a month that she notices.
                           \_ "opportunities" can be fought with morals.
                              If you explicitly tell her,"forget about
                              morals", its your own fault.
                           \_ If she's never tried it before, she wont
                              know what she's missing, until, fool that
                              you are, you push her into it.
                                \_ Some of us aren't as shakey in our
                                   relationships as you are.  -doing it
                                   \_ Having your wife/gf get it on with
                                      another woman, is in no way a
                                      sigh of whether your relationship
                                      is shakey or not.
                                        \_ But being fearful that she'll "go
                                           over to the dark side" says a lot
                                           about what you think of your own
                                           relationship's strength.  What
                                           you're saying is not what I was
                                           saying.  And I don't "have her"
                                           do anything.  We enjoy it together.
                    \_ If Julia was in it, it would be an even bigger box
                       office draw than usual for a Julia (or lesbian) movie.
                       But what would the title be? And what story-line?
                       \_ does it matter?
              \_ Hey, if movies like "Wild Wild West" and gross $100 million,
                it really shows that a large part of movie-goers have
                gone brain-dead, in which case, story-line is irrelevant...
                \_ Like there were any other choices that summer with Star
                   Bores, The Phantom Dumbass coming out.
2000/3/20-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17802 Activity:kinda low
        8:30 pm $5 - all are welcome, you do NOT need cal id.
        \_ There is a 2nd showing on wed 3.22.00 proceeds go to the
           school for Chiapas foudation. Same time and place.
        \_ Zzzz... Sorry to be an insensitive jerk, but zzzz...
        \_ I'm an insensitive jerk and not sorry about it.  Why would I
           possibly consider burning $5 and the evening on this?  Only if I
           saw the chance to get laid from going by showing how sensitive and
           90's I am.  Now that it isn't the 90's can I stop pretending to be
           sensitive and still get laid?  How about it, girls?  Aren't you
           tired of all the sensitive bad-poetry reading in-touch-with-their-
           feelings soft shouldered faggy boys yet?
                \_ hear hear!  -aspolito
                \_ whoever you are, you should be president next semester!
                   \_ Can alumni hold office?  --insensitive but getting laid
2000/3/17 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17793 Activity:high
3/17    ``It's time to say what's happening here,'' said Gayle Ruzicka,
        chairwoman of Utah's chapter of the conservative Eagle Forum.
        ``Pornography has suddenly become a huge, huge business -- beyond
        anything we ever imagined -- and it's as addictive as drugs.
        People are asking for help.'' Utah is apparently the first state
        to name a general porn czar.
        \_ To the insignficant troll-child below:
           Give up and go away, because *I*, am the King of Trolls.
           \_ I'm not trolling.  Those are my honest and real beliefs.  This
              Utah thing is just stupid.  No one cares about Utah.  If you'd
              ever been there or knew a few you'd know why.  If you're the
              KoT you must be hungry because "No cookie for you!  Bad troll!
              Lame troll!"
        \_ hey, in utah, you can marry as many porn stars as you like. if
        you're a dude, that is!
2000/3/16 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17783 Activity:nil 69%like:17772
3/15    Anybody else besides yermom have a STD archive?  I'm trying to
        find answers to a question I posted yesterday.  yermom's STD
        mechanism seems kinda flaky.
        \_ Many versions of the STD have been sent to /dev/null
        \_ hey, if you dont like it, archive it in your own better
           way.  -yermom

Always: Participate, don't spectate.
        (25% of my disk quota to whoever knows where that's from.)
        \_ It's from "Gregory's Two Girls". You got it backwards. Send disk
           space to bray@csua.
        \_ Mate, don't masturbate.  (From me.)
           \_ Does that include gay mating?
              \_ Up to you.
                 \_ Yay!

Now:    Be a creator, not a destroyer.
        \_ I create crap.  And lots of it. -netuser
2000/3/13-14 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17754 Activity:high
3/13    So much bitterness in the motd.  I just wanted to say I personally
        love you all, even those of you that hate on me.  You should just
        all relax, take a chill pill, and go for walk in this beautiful
        weather we are experiencing.  --sky/Christ
        \_ Can't we all just get along?
        \_ WE LOVE YOU SKYLER!  AND YOU TOO JESUS!
        \_ I am not bitter. Screw you all.
                \_ Of course you are.  That's why we like you.
2000/3/8 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Ilyas] UID:17709 Activity:nil
3/7     Another informal CSUA survey:
        love academia: nweaver emarkp alexf ilyas welfare-leech
                               \_ How did my name get here?  I didn't put it
                                  here and I work in industry with a measly BA
                                  in CS. -emarkp
        love industry: tom cmlee yermom ilyas productive-member-of-society
                        \_ I work at Cal you moron.  -tom
        love yermom:
        love me:
        \_ And stop speaking for me you twink. -- ilyas
           \_ Your words spoken over the years put you in the former category.
               \_ This is a false dichotomy.  There are far more evil things
                  than either. -- ilyas
                                  \_ tell us about the intelligence of stars...
                \_ Oh, hey, like ilyas has the right to change his mind and
                   get a working one any time he likes.
                   \_  He?  I always thought ilyas is a she.
                       \_ If ilyas is a she, is she hot?
                          \_ There are no hotties on soda. At least there
                             weren't while I was an undergrad.
                                \_ Spoken like someone who never met raytrace.
                             \_ How about <DEAD>soda/~fonger<DEAD>
                                \_ She may have a CSUA account, but does she look
                                   CS to you?  (hint: look at webpage & source)
                                   \_ Considering that the source is four years
                                      old and HTML editors weren't that popular
                                      back then, it was not bad as a hand-
                                      created page.
                             \_ There also used to be ~angie who had hot pics
                                in her home page, but I can't find it anymore.
2000/3/7 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Travel/LasVegas, Recreation/Media] UID:17708 Activity:nil
3/7     http://www.jiggscasey.com
2000/2/25 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Security] UID:17622 Activity:nil
2/25    Pro-immigration drivel deleted.  That was not a reason to allow
        queers to marry.  That was a reason to deny foreigners easy access
        to our shores.  I abhore the practice of foreigners, mostly women,
        prostituting themselves out to gain status here.  We should eliminate
        that possibility equally for everyone.
2000/2/19-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17566 Activity:nil
2/18    http://rockymountainnews.com/legislature/0218leg1.shtml for the
        latest on same sex marriage in the U.S.
        \_ yes on 22! lets not have colorado be the only state with
           "family values"!
2000/2/18 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Disease/AIDS] UID:17551 Activity:nil
2/17    Support Troll Marriage!  Trolls have as much right to the protections
        and benefits of non-Troll married couples!  We are people just like
        you (except we can't breed, and we're incapable of any sort of
        fidelity, and are the major vector for HIV/AIDS in this country).
        Support Troll Marriage!  Vote Yes! on Prop 22!
                                      \_ don't you mean no?
           \_ Yes, Major Vector! Thank you sir!
           \_ ObWebster
       2: to enter into a close or intimate union <these wines marry well>
             BAN WINO MARRIAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                \_ So Webster #2 is the same use as legal marriage?  ObBrain.
2000/2/16-17 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17520 Activity:high
2/16    Anyone tape 'who wants to marry a multimillionaire' last night?
        I missed it and want to watch it! -ERic
        \_ He picked the dumb, inarticulate blonde (the wrong blonde even)
        \_ It was dull.  Not even the degradation of 50 women was interesting.
           And yes, he picked the wrong blonde.  She's military so she's fit
           and he's an outdoors guy and she was a bit older than the others so
           was more his age but had *nothing* else going for her.  The other
           blonde who was only a few years younger was twice as smart and was
           way fucking fantastic looking, especially her legs.  -not a leg man
           \_ "nothing else going for her"? sounds like enough to me.
           \_ "nothing else going for her"? sounds like enough to me. Besides,
              when you have thatkind of money, presumably you can fuck all
              the hot looking chicks you could ever want. So you'd want
              to marry something with a bit of interest
        \_ I only watched the beginning.  Contestant #18 is hot!  I would've
           picked her.
        \_ urlP?
        \_ JPGs! We want JPGs !
                \_JPG rule...
           \_ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/sfgate/object.cgi?object=/chronicle/pictures/2000/02/03/dd_sweeps-multi-millionare.jpg&paper=chronicle&file=DD91322.DTL&directory=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/03
           the same even if people married each other randomly.  --PeterM
              -- yuen
        \_ How does an idiot like that get to be a multimillionaire?
           Well, perhaps he won't be for long.  Divorces can get expensive.
           Though who knows, maybe the divorce rate would be close to
           the same even if people married each other randomly.--PeterM
        \_ Real estate development in San Diego.  No stock options, but not
           much harder either.
        \_ The 9th Semi-finalist has cute face and hot body!  Wow!  I wish I
           can marry her!  But if I'm that multi-millionaire, I'll pick the
           1st finalist.  She's gorgeous, much better than the one he picked.
2000/2/10-11 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17482 Activity:insanely high
2/9     I thought sparky was in prison or something for being the anti-gubmint
        radical rebel without a clue that he is, yet the last logs show kewl
        b0y logging in almost everyday.  Escaped and found a floppy to boot
        from?
        \_ he smuggled a palm and a ricochet up his ass
        \_ Sparky and others are in jail.  I was detained and released cuz
           I am an 31337 h4x0r k1d and I used pgpdisk and a paper shredder
           so there was no evidence to arrest me.  Anyways, fuck all yall.
           Me and moutchkine are going to go back to getting little 15
           year old raver/goth chix high on meth and taping them having lesbian
           sex.  you may now return to your regularly scheduled program,
           wage slaves.  -sky
           wage slaves.  -sparky
                   \_ I am a slave to the glass dick.  -sky
                \_ are you a slave to not being a slave?
                   \_ I am a slave to the glass dick.  -sparky
                \_ The question is still open how do I fuck sky's girlfriend?
                        \_ Not really.  You're just a dick.  Not glass.  Not
                           a slave.  Just a dick.
                \_ The question is still open how do I fuck sparky's girlfriend?
                   \_ proposition her with a more lucrative illegal porn
                         OPPRESSION!!!  -sky
                        \_ sky couldn't have written this about himself. It's
                      moneymaking scheme.
                   \_ She sure is hot.  Wonder why she ever fell for him.
                      \_ It must have been my 12" dick of WHITE MALE
                         OPPRESSION!!!  -sparky
                        \_ sparky couldn't have written this about himself. It's
                           too stupid even for him.
                        \_ He just said: 'high on meth and...'  A loser like
                           that couldn't get a chick like that without
                           drugging her.
                           \_ She stayed even after the meth wore off?  Gee, I
                                   and anonymous fashion. -sky
                                      \_ Amen!  Tell 'em brutha jesus! -sky
                              should work harder on becoming a loser then.
                                \_ Yeah, I can't believe it myself, with
                                   people like you alive and making your
                                   remarkable magnanimity available for all
                                   the csua to see, but in an elegantly subtle
                                         crack at responding to that one.  -sky
                                   and anonymous fashion. -sparky
                                   \_ Uh oh.  It was anonymous.  Therefore it
                                         months of sky slandering in the motd,
                                      must be false.  Uhm... no.  If that's
                                      your best reply, stay off the motd and
                   Either I am hated by a bunch of wussy netstalkers or
                                         recognize^(*&#$^*&^!!  -sky
                   hands.  It is my deam that, one day, I may have the
                   honor of joining the ranks of geek infamy alongside trevor
                   and dickylee.  -sky
                                      the crack pipe.
                                      \_ ok, u got me.  I let seano have a
                                   It worked for sky.
                                         crack at responding to that one.
                                         But yeah, over the last several
                                           be driving that bitch.  -sky
                                           \_ Again, this can't be sky.  This
                                         months of sparky slandering in the motd,
                                              pretending to be sky.  It's bad
                                         the only person to actually sign a
                                         post was tom.  F00lz best
                                         recognize^(*&#$^*&^!!  -sparky
                                         \_ I signed a very eloquent
                                            sparky slander but it got deleted
                                            by seano.  -John
                                \_ Nah, just download some asian chik pic off
                                   the net and say she's your gf.  Much easier.
                                   It worked for sparky.
                                   \_ You ain't nothin' but a PLAYA HATA!
                                        \_ Just cuz he got a car he want to
                                           be driving that bitch.  -sparky
                                           \_ Again, this can't be sparky.  This
                                              is too embarassing.  Please stop
                                              pretending to be sparky.  It's bad
                                              enough with only him being him.
                                                  -sky
                                              \_  Are you broke?  Do bitches
                                                  look at you like some kind
                                                  of joke?

                                                  csua'r: Straight up!

                                                  What you need is a PHD.

                                                  csua'r: Playa Hata's Degree?
                                           tone.  Mother, is that you?  -sky
                                                          Ah hell yeah!
                                                          [Next week]
                                                          I may be ugly, least
                                                          I ain't got no money,
                                                          BITCH!

                   alongside trevor and dickylee.  -sky
                        \_ Foolz best back on up! -sky #1 fan
                                                  -sparky
                                        \_ LOL!  Yeah whatever.  Thanks for
                                           making me laugh, though.
                                   \_ Really!?  He even made up a story of how
                           \_ So Dr. Tweakaseti....we meet at last.
                                      he picked her up.  Gee.
                                        \_ It was an http GET request.
                              hosers think because you are all persona
                              non-grata, 2) because I dont have some feeble
                                        \_ I send myself fake letters and take
                              to defend every one of your weak accusations, and
                                           fake pictures and all the times i
                              all your no-life anklenbiters.
                                           pretend i am talking to her on the
                           him?  sky isn't smart enough to play the part.
                                           phone i am just talking to a dial
                                           tone.  Mother, is that you?  -sparky
                                                \_ Drugs can do that to you.
                \_ Wow!  20 flames and not one person signed their name.
                   Either I am hated by a bunch of wussy girlie-men or
                   one of you is way psycho and has too much time on your
                   one free hand.  Some day, if fortune smiles upon me, maybe
                   I will be lucky enough to join the ranks of geek infamy
                   alongside trevor and dickylee.  -sparky
                        \_ Foolz best back on up! -sparky #1 fan
                        \_ Trevor is smarter than you and dickylee had a
                           certain special something.  You're such the current
                           dork of the week.  Either of them would have easily
                           provided page after page of amusing babble both
                           attacking others and defending themself (sort of)
                           with much better stuff than "You're all anon so you
                           just suck!@!@!111".  I thought you'd be more fun but
                              hope to have.  -sky
                           even the best of us get it wrong sometimes.  You're
                           just a dull witted sap.  Where's Trevor when I need
                           him?  sparky isn't smart enough to play the part.
                           \_ So Dr. Tweakaseti....we meet at last.  Just
                              goes to show, you never really know who your
                              friends are.  You are here-forth all declared
                              persona non-grata.

                              I don't write pages and pages of babble defending
                              myself because 1) I don't give a fuck what u
                              hosers think, 2) because I dont have some feeble
                              insecurity which would make me feel the need
                              to defend every one of your weak accusations
                              so you all think I am so very very very kewl, and
                              3) I am too busy having a life to keep up with
                              all you pissant no-life anklenbiters.  As to my
                              intelligence, who the fuck are you to say?  Lack
                              of judgement I confess, but I lost more
                              brain cells sniffing the crack of your mom's
                              hairy lice infested anus than you can ever
                              hope to have.  -sparky
2000/2/10 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17477 Activity:high
2/9     Informal survey: I love
        -ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Informal survey.   2
        -yermom                   nightly backup
        -psb                      0
        -tom                      0
        -my large breasts         1
        -tjb                      1
        -"the greedy regents"   -33333
        -perky breasts            1
        -twm                      0
        -fvwm                     1
        -fvwm95                   0
        -afterstep                1
        -gnome                   -2
        -kde                     -1
        -enlightenment          -50
        -emacs                    2
        -vi                       1
        -pico                     0
        -jove                     0
        -Linux                    2
         -RedHat                  1
         -Debian                  2
         -SuSE                    0
         -Caldera                 0
         -Corel (must be over 18) 0
        -FreeBSD                  0
        -BeOS                     1
        -M$ Lose[NT,95,98,1900] -50
        -you                      1
2000/1/30 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:17378 Activity:very high 75%like:17373 75%like:17377
1/29    Vote for your favourite CSUA female:
        -lila           1.6
        -reeser         42
        -chris          -10 * i
        -kchang         port 6667
        -kiersten       1
        -ahm            1
        -jkoh           1
        -sony           3
        -tjb            1 for each professor who wants hot gay sex with tjb
        -alissa         1
        -Fuzzy Bunny    1080c88899039883710298775773838102-3@782898.30923$3!!!
        \_ Based on what?  How many times I had sex with each?
           \_ I assume if you have more sex with her, she is more a favorite.
              In your case it is a tie.
        -lila           1.6
        -reeser         42
        -chris          -10 * i
        -kchang         port 6667
        -kiersten       1
        -ahm            1
        -jkoh           1
        -sony           3
        -tjb            1 for each professor who wants hot gay sex with tjb
        -alissa         1
2000/1/25-27 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/OtherSchools] UID:17325 Activity:high
1/24    And you thought Cal reshalls were bad:
        http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/93/81/01_4_m.html
        \_ not that anyone reads this thread anymore, but one of the other
        "great pieces of legislation" that McGrath introduced was a bill
        requiring grade-school teachers to carry handguns on campus...
           \_ What's wrong with that?  I think *everyone* should be required
              to own and maintain a firearm.
        \_ Cal reshalls are totally liberal and open.  Even other UC's have
                more restrictive dorms.  Go to a religious schools and UC
                dorms seem incredibly permissive ("You can have members of
                the opposite sex in your room?  Wow...")
                \_ coed bathrooms.  nuff said.
                   \_ Try the USCA co-ops if you want to learn what the true
                      meaning of "permissive" is all about.  Cal dorms are
                      super nazi control freaks in comparison.  In fact, you
                      really can't fairly compare.  Different worlds.
                      \_ Exactly.  Co-ed bathing.  Co-ed rooms (though I saw
                         that go bad one semester).
                        \_ What happened?
                                \_ The obvious: they broke up, hated each
                                   other but had to finish out the semester
                                   because there was no where else to go.
                                        -ex house manager
                         \_ Define "co-ed bathing" por favor.
                                \_ Members of opposite sex engaging in sexual
                                   foreplay/intercourse in hottub/shower/tub.
                                   \_ Happens in Cal dorms too.  Even *gasp*
                                      Foothill.
                                         \_ are you on crack?
                                      \_ Uhm, no, not like the co-ops.  I doubt
                                         any dormy has ever seen a hungry post-
                                         sex couple emerge from their cave or
                                         the hot tub, etc, and walk naked into
                                         the kitchen to get food and return to
                                         fuck some more.  There's more sex in
                                         the smallest co-op houses every night
                                         than the entire dorm system.  You
                                         really shouldn't try to put "dorm" &
                                         "co-op" in the same sentence.
                                                --seen it in co-ops
                                         \_ well damn. I should have been
                                            in the co-ops.
                                            \_ MUHAHAHAHAHA!! (evil laughter)
                                      \_ Speak for yourself.
                                                -Done it in bot places
                                        \_ Not on a co-op quantity scale. We've
                                           had honest Presidents too.  Not on
                                           a large scale, unfortunately.
                                      \_ Foothill?  Rape doesn't count.
           \_ UC Santa Cruz has the most liberal on-campus dorms by far. --dim
              \_ if you ignore the fact they close off the campus at 8pm
              \_ How so?
                 \_ Co-ed everything. Underage drinking. Rampant drug use.
                    Tolerance to noise. Preceptors and RAs who turn a blind
                    eye to (or participate in!) parties and smoke-outs. I've
                    heard it's more strict now that they had some "problems",
                    though. I can't confirm. Cal seemed Fascist in
                    comparison. We always had to be secretive here. --dim
                    \_ Back when I did that kind of thing, I used to smoke
                       pot with my RA all the time -- what's the big deal?
                        \_ I wasn't smoking out in the Cal dorms but saw plenty
                           of it.  What's the title for the student they put in
                           charge of the whole building?  She was using the
                           freshman boys like they were going outta style.
                            \_ Hall Coordinators.  And I was an RA, and I
                               drank with my Residents, but I only dated
                               Residents from other areas.  You don't shit
                               where you eat.
                                \_ Speak for yourself!
                                \_ HC.  That's it.  Holly.  She was hot.
                                                         Any pics? _/
                       \_ The deal is that at UCSC nobody cared. At UCB
                          the door had to be closed. There was always an
                          element of secrecy. I remember people having to
                          dump their beer down the drain in the shower. I
                          also recall an RA losing his job because he was
                          caught drinking with the students. At UCSC, it
                          didn't matter. No one cared and anything went.
                          It was similar to the co-ops. --dim (former USCA)
                          \_ Oh, hell, UCB's best policy was the I-don't-see-
                             it-I-don't-hear-it-I-don't-smell-it-I-don't-care
                             policy.  Prepped me for life in the CIA.^H^H^H^H
                          \_ Until someone's daddy files a law suit against
                             UCSC.  We were spending house money on acid at
                             my co-op.
2000/1/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17289 Activity:nil
1/21    Annoying 36 year old Indian women just joined our group. I don't know
        why she is hired. She doesn't know anything technically and she
        always talks about her kids, and her husband. She keeps complaining
        about startup long hours and excuses her self early with "Gotta pick
        up kids", "cook", etc. What is the best way to get rid of her?
        \_ Rocket launcher with quad damage
2000/1/20 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/Gay, Reference/Religion] UID:17275 Activity:low
1/19    A related question to the homo marrieages/Christian thread below.
        A while back there was a contraversial play where Jesus had sex
        with all 12 of his disciples. You know, during the last supper.
        It was a big gay orgy. Anybody remember the name of the play?
        \_ I remember there was a big discussion about Jesus and John
           as lovers.
2000/1/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17272 Activity:insanely high
1/19    The Defense of Marriage Act, or the Knight Initiative, proposes to
        amend the California constitution to ban same-sex marriages.vote Yes
        - turin                                                         /
                        What a stunning argument for your position!  __/
        \_ And for all you non bigots out there go to http://www.samesexmarriage.org
           and download the petition to legalize same sex marriages in CA,
           fill it out, and mail it in.  Or you can get it from
           /csua/tmp/petition.pdf  -aspo
            \_ Unlikely that such a petition could pass since it would require a
               change in the CA constitution (the Family code) which already
               limits marriages to be man + woman.  Prop 22 is aimed at
               preventing same-sex marriages performed somewhere else to be
               recognized here.
               \_ your point?  It is a petition to get a prop on the ballot.
                  Nothing more.  That is how things work in this state. -aspo
                 to his or her own opinions and prejudices) obviosly you are
                  \_ Constitutional changes require a 3/4 majority (or is it
                     2/3) instead of simple majority.
            \_ how is that being a bigot? - turin
                (amend: bigot: : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted
                 to opinions that dont agree with mine) obviosly you are
                a bigot. Am I a bigot because I believe gravity keeps me
                on earth just as I believe marriage is meant for male/female?
                Sounds like you want to change something that wasn't meant
                for you that you have no right to.
                \_ the really unbelieveable thing is that this isn't
                   a troll.  -tom
                   \_ The really unbelievable thing is that you are incapable of
                      seeing another point of view and yet likely call yourself
                      "tolerant."
                \_ 50 years ago people thought marriage was something that
                   should only happen between a man and a woman of the same
                   race.  Interracial marriages were outlawed in many states.
                   And yet if I were to claim they sohuld be outlawed now
                   I would justifiably be called a bigot.  The only difference
                   between being a bigot in your case is that it is more
                   socially acceptable to be bigotted against homosexuals
                   right now.  Why don't you stop trying to discriminate
                   against homosexuals and go back to dooshing for the lord.
                                        -aspo
                   \_ As if it were the same thing.
                   \_ i am glad to see whites marrying blacks/chinese- turin
                      \_ analogy.  turin.  bigot.
                      \_ All you whiteys are marrying the asian babes, and I
                         can't get any dates!!! Go to HELL!!! - Hoyt Sze
                  \_ Damn, the infamous Hoyt Sze!  Is that really you man?
                     I totally agree.  Nothing's worse than observing
                     fine Asian women married to completely dorky pale idiots.
                           -swings
                      \_ It's just that we don't have such little bitty
                         thingies, and we don't drive lowered Mazdas, and
                         we can drink without turning beet red.
                                                -Studly tanned genius
                           \_ gaijin fool! lowered HONDAS are the TRUE way
                              of studliness
                           p.s. turin, you're a bigot b/c you are not tolerant
                           of things that deviate from what is considered
                           "normal" and therefore "right."  It has nothing
                           to do with God.  It's just a sexual preference,
                           just as other animals exhibit.
                           \_ and eating your mate after you have sex with
                              them is just a sexual preference.
                  \_ aspo, you immediately call me a bigot, perhaps you
                    are discriminating against heterosexuals? Anywayz, marriage
                    is a sacred/holy act that represents the Union between
                    a man and a woman that is a type  of the Union God wants
                    with mankind, which is basically a picture of the result
                    which of union of Christ and the Church as a groom and a
                    bride. If God thinks homosexuality is an abomination of
                    obviously marriage is sanctioned by God only for a man and
                    and a woman. That's what marriage is, and you want to
                        \_ Marriage is not restricted to christians.  If
                    modify it to suit your own wants. So how can you claim
                    something that is not meant for you? perhaps you are the
                    one stealing something that doesn't belong to youf- turin
                        \_ The government has already claimed marriage and
                           modified it to suit it's own purposes.  If you
                           really believe that you need to defend the
                           sanctity and holiness of marriage, you need to
                           get the government completely uninvolved.
                        \_ Marriage is not restricted to christians.
                           \_ No, but funny how just about every other
                              religion also agrees on the little detail of
                              marriage = 1 man, 1 woman.
                              (well, sometimes, higher numbers on one
                               side or another, but still...)
                           If
                           you demand that the nature of marriage conforms
                           to a christian ideal, you are enforcing the
                           restrictions of your religion on others who do
                           not practice it.  It's hard for me to imagine
                           that anyone would condone such a thing, but
                           humans have an amazing ability to fall short
                           of even my expectations.  -niloc
                    \_  if you think that the legal definition of marriage
                        (for everyone, not just people who believe in your
                        god) must be the same as the one that your god has
                        defined, then you are a bigot.  qed.  -lila
                    \_ He's not claiming anything from your God.  Do you have
                       any idea what same sex marriage debate is about other
                       than what you've been told by your pastor/cult leader?
                       Get a clue.  -scotsman
                        \_ but he's claiming something of God for himself-turin
                           \_ You assume that he's gay and looking to get
                              married.  Again I say "Get a clue." -scotsman
                             \_ i just posted my reason for voting yes, aspo
                                assumes I am a bigot, discriminating, but the
                                real reason that marriage doesn't belong to
                                gays who want to marry, regardless if aspo is
                                is one or not - turin
                                \_ This post has failed the basic grammar
                                   check.  You may speak to scotsman when
                                   you have more clue. -scotsmanmotdgrokker
                    \_ Can you tell the difference between saying "I don't
                       agree with something that doesn't affect me, so you
                       can't do it" what you are saying about gay marriage)
                       and "I'm going to do something that doesn't affect you
                       but that you don't agree with"?  That is not
                       discriminating against "heterosexuals" (if by
                       heterosexuals you mean religiously intolerant bigots)
                       in any way shape or from.  Guess what, we don't live
                       in a theocracy.  God's will has nothing to do with our
                       legal system.  Or at least it shouldn't have anything
                       to do with it.  -aspo
                        \_ ever read the Bill of Rights? Godgiven rights?
                        \_ The Bill of Rights says nothing about God.  The
                           closest it comes is in the First Amendment:
                           "Congress shall make no law respecting an
                           establishment of religion "  -tom
                           \_ which means the whole idea of 'legal marriage'
                              is against the constitution anyway.
                                \_ uh, no.  The legal definition of marriage
                                   (that is, not turin's) involves the
                                   definition of a family and the disbursment
                                   of related benefits.  There's nothing
                                   religious about it.  -tom
                           \_ did you ever happen to notice that not everyone
                              in this country is christian?
                                \_ what does being Christian have to do with
                                  the Bill of Rights?
                                   \_ What does being christian have to do
                                      with tax laws, insurance policy, or
                                      inheritance right? -scotsman
                                      \_ nothing, what's your point?-turin
                                         \_ sigh.  see above re: knowing what
                                            same sex marriage debate is about.
                                            -scotsman
                        \_ mumble mumble separation of church and state
                           -geordan
                        \_ vote whatever you want, we are in a democracy but
                          I don't call people names - turin
                          \_ i'd rather people call me names than legally
                             require that i live under the rules of a god
                             that i don't believe in and disagree with.  -lila
                \_ "A prayer in a public school!  God has no place within
                these walls, just like facts have no place within organized
                religion." - The Simpsons
        \_ Listen, you have a large number of God-lovin' Americans out
           there who will NOT accept "same-sex marriage".  They will, however,
           after much persuasion accept "same-sex domestic partnership"
           as a separate category.  The issue then becomes making the rights
           of the partnership the same as the rights in marriage (make it
           into another checkbox on the 1040).  Then after 40 years of
           old-fashioned people DYING people will merge the two categories
           into one checkbox of "married" or one checkbox of "married or
           same-sex domestic partnership".
           \_ oh we are going to treat you like second class citezens for a
              while but don't worry aobut it.  See after you die it might
              just happen that that will go away.  What bullshit.
              \_ Yeah, God-lovin' and old-fashioned Americans sure suck
                 don't they?  Unfortunately, they are why there is no
                 same-sex marriage, and there are a hell of a lot of them.
                \_ axiom 1.  -tom
        \_ This thread has failed the Turin test.
           (Sorry, someone had to say it)  -geordan
                \_ "One nation, under God, indivisible"
                \_ you're an idiot, tpc.
                   particularly since "under God" was added to the pledge
                   in the 1950s.  -tom
                                \_ you and your facts. twink. - tpc
                        \_ "In God We Trust"
                                \_ That was added to the 2 cent coin in 1864,
                                and to all forms of cash in 1955.  Try again
                                \_ "All Others Pay Cash"
           \_ Interesting. I didnt know they read the motd in Italy, let
              alone made a test on it.
        \_ The t.u.r.i.n. <=> k.c.h.a.n.g. Theorem. - chucky
        \_ I guess it's true than when you become conservative enough,
           you start seeming liberal.  If the majority of people want
           same sex marriage to be recognized by the state, then it
           will be.  As I've said before on wall, I would exclude
           marriage from any legal mention whatsoever as it is religion
           based, and doesn't belong on the books.  -ax
                \_ the majority of people are too stupid to make an
                   intelligent decision about which brand of socks to buy,
                   let alone about complex and subtle issues like those
                   which get voted on in initiatives.  -tom
                   \_ Hence Plato's opinion that democracy is the second worst
                      form of government (after tyranny).  We need a philosopher
                      king. -- ilyas
                      \_ What is your postal address, I have a one way plane
                         ticket to mauritania for you.
2000/1/14-15 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17243 Activity:moderate 50%like:16557
1/14    Stop reposting the anal sex thread, dammit.
        \_ Unh! Unh! Oh, just like that, yes baby, unh, deeper, all the way,
           baby, oh yes, unh!
        \_ But I wanted to hear what people had to say. I heard it, will stop
           now.
           \_ but I didnt get to say that:
              Any women who prefers anal sex greatly over vaginal, probably
              suffered extreme sexual abuse, and so while craves intimacy,
              shies away from normal penetration.
               \_ woah!  now there's an incredibly stupid theory!
2000/1/12-14 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17220 Activity:insanely high
1/12     What is up with men nowadays?  I was browsing the 'adult' room
         at Video Maniacs and saw a peculiar fascination many purported
         hetero males have with anal sex.  What is the real story?  Do
         most men crave anally penetrating a girl even if they can have
         access to the traditional orifice(s)?  I do not get why this
         spot especially would be the subject of so many adult videos.
        \_ I think what you want to look for is the bend over boyfriend
           series.  -aspo
        \_ you should be specific about "you saw lots of anal videos
           on the shelves", vs "all the guys were drooling over that
           section."
           PS: it's the whole "forbidden in 3 states" thing.
       \_ No different from any other 'forbidden' form of sex in a stuffy
          puritanical country.  If it was commonplace and not thought of as
          evil or twisted it wouldn't be such a big deal.  There's no special
          fascination peculiar to men.  Plenty of women like or even prefer
          it.  Just another taboo and not that special.  So how is it you get
          so close to the adult section that you can read the titles the men
          are looking at?  Little known fact: more porn is rented by women
          than by men nationwide.  While I'm at it, how do you know those are
          hetero males?  What's the real story with people like you?
                        \-i would be curious where the stat about more women
                        than men renting ho movies comes from --psb
           \_ Not to mention all those straight men ito recieving anal sex.
              People other than lesibans buy strap-ons too you know.
              \_ Unfortunately, most of the strapons are too damn big for
                 my comfort, so wifey doesnt get to play.
                 \_ what part of most don't you understand?
                    \_ Idiot. To anyone but the totally clueless, it
                       should be obvious I meant "All the ones ive seen
                        are too large, but I'm sure there are smaller out
                        there, so it wouldnt be appropriate to say 'all'
                        without qualification"
           \_ I'd like to see a source for that "more porn" statistic.
              Because it has a tough time standing up to me never seeing
              a woman in the adult section, but quite a few men.
              \_ You live in the Bay Area, Land of the Under Sexed Geek.  The
                 rest of the country is different and has the standard 52/48
                 female/male ratio in the general population.
              \_ Also depends on definition of "porn." If you include Brad
                 Pitt sans shirt in that category, then yea, maybe. Otherwise,
                 you'd have to provide a pretty damn reliable source.
           \_ That's on the assumption that original poster was female. I
              somehow doubt it.
        \_ hypocritically puritianical, I might add  -- swings
        \_ The stats come from the rental movie industry not your personal
           observations.  Anyway, that's beside the point.  The whole thing
           is a troll.  I want to know how the original poster can tell what
           movies men are renting and what the "main thrust" (heh) of each is,
           so to speak.  Troll, troll, troll.  -smells a troll
           \_ The rental industry wants to increase/protect itself, not
              provide accurate statistics. Which do you think is more
              beneficial, and avoids hordes of feminazis descending:
                a) porn is  mostly rented by a bunch of horney men
                b) porn is mostly rented by women
          \_ Who here has dated a woman who preferred anal sex? Or even
             liked it? I have dated dozens of women and only one liked it
             at all.
                \_ half of the women I've dated liked anal sex.
                \_ I have.  She not only preferred it but we rarely had
                   'normal' sex.  Anal sex every day.  Her choice.
                    \_ Was she a transsexual?
                        \_ No.  She was a born as female, lived as female, and
                           entirely genetically female.  What's so hard to
                           understand about a normal woman who likes anal sex?
                    \_ Damn. Can I have her phone number?
                        \_ She's married now.  I think she lives in SoCal
                           somewhere.  Haven't had any contact in years.
                           \_ I get it.  She wanted to marry virgin.
                                 mostly a virgin.
                              \_ If you rarely have normal sex, you are only
                                 mostly a virgin.  This comment does not
                                 concern you, anal sex boy.  -\
                                        \_ Mostly a virgin is like somewhat
                                           pregnant.
                                \_ Neither of you get it.  We had sex every
                                   day.  Often several times.  Every single
                                   day we had anal sex.  About every fourth
                                   day we had 'normal' intercourse.  She was
                                   nothing like a virgin.  Maybe the way that
                                   Madonna, the entertainment figure, is like
                                   a virgin.  She just liked anal sex.  It's
                                   very simple.  Don't over psycho babble it.
                                   \_ This from someone who has a CSUA
                                      account.  Either it's a mutant from
                                      Mars or this person is lying through
                                      their teeth.
2000/1/10-11 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:17202 Activity:moderate
1/9    I want to buy the following item on the net but I have no idea
        what the hell the damn thing is called: it's a long, tube like
        object (often decorated to look like a cat or some such animal)
        that you put at the bottom of the door to stop a draft. Any hints
        on a site or even a name for the damn thing? -trying to buy cute shit
        \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!  Draft eliminator thingie.
        \_ I call it a "towel".
        \_ I think you want cute weather stripping
        \_ They call it a draft eliminator.  For a Garfield one, see:
           http://catalog.garfield.com:80/default.asp
                \_ I thought going to Europe and not inhaling was the draft
                   eliminator.
                   \_ That's the draft avoider.
       \_ Thank you, public motd. Once again, you have proved to be
      an invaluable source of wisdom mixed with subtle humor. -bought cute shit
2000/1/10 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17200 Activity:nil 52%like:17194
1/7     Female wants to keep her last name.  Male wants her to take his,
        hyphenation unacceptable.  Marriage this summer.  What do you do?
        [Actually, this isn't happening to me but two close friends of mine.
        The female has been engaging in subtle lobbying whenever liberal
        me is around; but the male keeps deflecting.]
        \_ If you two are getting married and not planning to have kids,
           why do either of you have to change your name?  If you do decide
           to have kids then there is the issue of their last names.  As
           one of my female friends once told me, "The woman bears the child
           for nine months; she should get to choose their last name."
           Having said that, if neither of you is willing to compromise
           on such a minor topic, then marriage might not be appropriate.
           Good luck. -emin
        \_ Have no last name. Be like Cher, Madonna, Prince (formerly).
           I'm changing my name so I'm a one-named-wonder.  A.U.B.I.E.
        \_ If you can't agree on something this simple, don't get married.
           You're not ready.  Incompatible people getting married because "we
           love each other" or "it was just time" is why the divorce rate is
           so high.  Do yourself a favor and think long and hard about this.
           How many other things have you not worked out yet?  Are you the same
           religion?  Do you both want kids?  Have you agreed to raise them in
           the same reloigion or non-religiously?  You can't choose both.  And
           what about jobs?  Have you discussed what you'll do if one of you
           gets a killer job somewhere else?  Is the other willing to give up
           their job and follow?  You're not ready for marriage.  Why do you
           need to ask this on the motd?  You trolling or just too young to get
           married?  -happily married, no unresolved issues
           \_ Ditto.  -another happily married, no unresolved issues
        \_ Male needs to remove head from ass.
                \_ Idiot.  It's a deeper issue than that.
                        \_ no it's not.
                                \_ "Yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no, it
                                    isn't, nyah! nyah! nyah!"  As others have
                                    already pointed out, it's deeper than that.
                                    You can't prove otherwise.
        \_ Break up.
           \_ Seconded. If she isn't willing to take his name, she'll be
              a bitch of a wife. Dump her now.
              Besides, what do you do if you have kids? She'll feel pretty
              stupid when peole dont think she's the mother because they
              have different last names. You WILL insist the children have
              your name, I hope.
              Note: yes, I am married. Wife went through this, as part of
              'familial separation anxiety'. She got over it.
              \_ Really, if you can't work this out then you shouldn't get
                 married.  And you shouldn't need to ask on the motd.
        \_ Use dashed name, maiden name as middle name, official nee postfix,
           or some other mix.
                \_ Wrong.  They have deeper problems than her name.
        \_ Declare last name to be empty string and enjoy watching databases
           die from dumb bugs on a regular basis
                \- flip for it and cheat.
        \_ kick guy in balls.  hard.  repeatedly.  then break up.
           \_ and go find the lesbo friend that obviously suits you.
           \_ Wrong.  This is a couple's issue, not the fault of either.  It's
              the fault/problem of both.  Please tell me you have no serious
              relationship plans for at least the next 10 years until you
              grow up and learn some tiny bit about life.
              \_ You're wrong.  It's obviously the guy's fault since he was
                 lame enough to ask the motd.
                 \_ The wording made me think it was a girl asking the
                    original question.  Unlikely on soda, but...
                 \_ No.  That's the part where we have to ask, "Is this a troll
                    or is he just an idiot?"  One stupidity does not make him
                    wrong on other issues.  This is a problem for many couples
                    today and the motd has nothing to do with it either way.
                    If this isn't a troll then they have real problems and
                    probably other questions that they need to work out before
                    they get married.  Saying he's automatically wrong because
                    he was lame enough to ask on the motd is stupid.  Nothing
                    is obvious.
        \_ Can you make and use a new lastname?  If Ricky Martin marries
           Mariah Carey, then Marrey or Cartin.
                \_ Legally changing your last name is possible but a huge pain
                   in the ass.  You have to go to court, change all sorts of
                   documents, get a million government and credit folks and
                   others to acknowledge it, blah, blah, blah.  You're better
                   off just killing yourself.  It's less painful.
                   \_ Uh.. what do you think many women do every time they
                      get married?  That's a legal name change, bub.
                        \_ BZZZT!  They still have to file papers, etc.  They
                           don't just start using the new last name and have it
                           magically be their new legal name.  Where do you
                           kids get this stuff from?  And why do you go off
                           about things you know nothing about when others who
                           do know have already told you otherwise?  Do you
                           try this in lecture, too?  Tried telling your
                           physics prof that gravity doesn't really work?
                                --been there, filed papers post-marriage
                   \_ actually legally changing your name in CA is quite
                      simple.  (Harder in the rest of the country though)
                        \_ BZZZT!  See answer further down.
                   \_ The government does not have the right to tell you
                      what you call yourself. You can use whatever name
                      you want without restriction unless it is for
                      fraudulent purposes.
                        \_ BZZZZT!  There's the name you use and put on random
                           documents and there's "legally changing your name".
                           Your passport must have your "legal" name on it.
                           This is the full name on your birth certificate
                           unless you've *legally* changed it.  YOU ARE WRONG!
                           GO TO THE END OF THE LINE!  Your passport can have
                           "aka" names listed on it but the primary name which
                           is required is your legal name, not what you call
                           yourself and sign other documents with.  Yes, in
                           fact, the government can prevent you from changing
                           your legal name and makes it reasonably difficult to
                           do so.  Good thing you're in EE/CS and not law
                           school.
                           \_ however for California residents things are
                              easier.  (Not for a passport no, that is a
                              federal document.)  You can get a driver's
                              license, for instance, with any name you want.
                              Consider how powerful a form of ID that is.
                                \_ Yup.  But it won't get you back into the
                                   country after aliens kidnap you and leave
                                   you in Singapore.
                                   \_ I didn't ask for the Anal Probe.
                                        \_ From the Singapore Gov. or the
                                           aliens?
2000/1/8-9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17194 Activity:insanely high 52%like:17200
1/7     Female wants to keep her last name.  Male wants her to take his,
        hyphenation unacceptable.  Marriage this summer.  What do you do?
        \_ Unless she's published her PhD thesis under her current last
           name, then she's just being a bitch.  You'll most likely get
           a divorce. Keep us posted...
        \_ Become monarch of a European nation. Then no one will remember
           that you even have a last name.
        \_ It's her name. If she wants to keep it, she should. Seems like
           the only issue that should have to be joint agreement is what
           to give the kids as a name. Choosing a new name together is
           another option that reduces the child issue and lets both
           parties express themselves.  -cdaveb
        \_ If you can't agree on something this simple, don't get married.
           You're not ready.  Incompatible people getting married because "we
           love each other" or "it was just time" is why the divorce rate is
           so high.  Do yourself a favor and think long and hard about this.
           How many other things have you not worked out yet?  Are you the same
           religion?  Do you both want kids?  Have you agreed to raise them in
           the same reloigion or non-religiously?  You can't choose both.  And
           what about jobs?  Have you discussed what you'll do if one of you
           gets a killer job somewhere else?  Is the other willing to give up
           their job and follow?  You're not ready for marriage.  Why do you
           need to ask this on the motd?  You trolling or just too young to get
           married?  -happily married, no unresolved issues
           \_ Ditto.  -another happily married, no unresolved issues
        \_ Male needs to remove head from ass.
                \_ Idiot.  It's a deeper issue than that.
                        \_ no it's not.
                                \_ "Yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no, it
                                    isn't, nyah! nyah! nyah!"  As others have
                                    already pointed out, it's deeper than that.
                                    You can't prove otherwise.
        \_ Break up.
           \_ Seconded. If she isn't willing to take his name, she'll be
              a bitch of a wife. Dump her now.
              Besides, what do you do if you have kids? She'll feel pretty
              stupid when peole dont think she's the mother because they
              have different last names. You WILL insist the children have
              your name, I hope.
              Note: yes, I am married. Wife went through this, as part of
              'familial separation anxiety'. She got over it.
              \_ Really, if you can't work this out then you shouldn't get
                 married.  And you shouldn't need to ask on the motd.
        \_ Use dashed name, maiden name as middle name, official nee postfix,
           or some other mix.
                \_ Wrong.  They have deeper problems than her name.
        \_ Declare last name to be empty string and enjoy watching databases
           die from dumb bugs on a regular basis
                \- flip for it and cheat.
        \_ kick guy in balls.  hard.  repeatedly.  then break up.
           \_ and go find the lesbo friend that obviously suits you.
           \_ Wrong.  This is a couple's issue, not the fault of either.  It's
              the fault/problem of both.  Please tell me you have no serious
              relationship plans for at least the next 10 years until you
              grow up and learn some tiny bit about life.
              \_ You're wrong.  It's obviously the guy's fault since he was
                 lame enough to ask the motd.
                 \_ The wording made me think it was a girl asking the
                    original question.  Unlikely on soda, but...
                 \_ No.  That's the part where we have to ask, "Is this a troll
        \_ Who says the male is the one posting?
                    or is he just an idiot?"  One stupidity does not make him
                    wrong on other issues.  This is a problem for many couples
                    today and the motd has nothing to do with it either way.
                    If this isn't a troll then they have real problems and
                    probably other questions that they need to work out before
                    they get married.  Saying he's automatically wrong because
                    he was lame enough to ask on the motd is stupid.  Nothing
                    is obvious.
        \_ Can you make and use a new lastname?  If Ricky Martin marries
           Mariah Carey, then Marrey or Cartin.
                \_ Legally changing your last name is possible but a huge pain
                   in the ass.  You have to go to court, change all sorts of
                   documents, get a million government and credit folks and
                   others to acknowledge it, blah, blah, blah.  You're better
                   off just killing yourself.  It's less painful.
                   \_ Uh.. what do you think many women do every time they
                      get married?  That's a legal name change, bub.
                        \_ BZZZT!  They still have to file papers, etc.  They
                           don't just start using the new last name and have it
                           magically be their new legal name.  Where do you
                           kids get this stuff from?  And why do you go off
                           about things you know nothing about when others who
                           do know have already told you otherwise?  Do you
                           try this in lecture, too?  Tried telling your
                           physics prof that gravity doesn't really work?
                                --been there, filed papers post-marriage
                   \_ actually legally changing your name in CA is quite
                      simple.  (Harder in the rest of the country though)
                        \_ BZZZT!  See answer further down.
                   \_ The government does not have the right to tell you
                      what you call yourself. You can use whatever name
                      you want without restriction unless it is for
                      fraudulent purposes.
                        \_ BZZZZT!  There's the name you use and put on random
                           documents and there's "legally changing your name".
                           Your passport must have your "legal" name on it.
                           This is the full name on your birth certificate
                              liscense, for instance, with any name you want.
                           unless you've *legally* changed it.  YOU ARE WRONG!
                           GO TO THE END OF THE LINE!  Your passport can have
                           "aka" names listed on it but the primary name which
                           is required is your legal name, not what you call
                           yourself and sign other documents with.  Yes, in
                           fact, the government can prevent you from changing
                           your legal name and makes it reasonably difficult to
                           do so.  Good thing you're in EE/CS and not law
                           school.
                           \_ however for California residents things are
                              easier.  (Not for a passport no, that is a
                              federal document.)  You can get a driver's
                              license, for instance, with any name you want.
                              Consider how powerful a form of ID that is.
                                \_ Yup.  But it won't get you back into the
                                   country after aliens kidnap you and leave
                                   you in Singapore.
                           \_ How bad is the name?  My friend's given name
                              is Rocky and he got it changed to Eric when
                              he was 18 without difficulty.  The judge just
                              laughed at him and then signed the paperwork.
2000/1/6-7 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17177 Activity:insanely high
1/6     Does "engagement" mean the period after successfully proposing
        but before actual marriage ceremony?  Is an engagement ring
        considered mandatory when you propose (as in the movies) or should
        I buy it for her one afterward?  Is a diamond "mandatory" on the ring
        or what are acceptable alternatives?
        \_ You are engaged from the time your intended says "Yes" until the
           time the minister/JP/etc. says "I now pronounce you man & wife."
           The only thing that's mandatory is a marriage license.  Rings are
           completely up to what you want, what she expects, and what you can
           afford.  For some people, that means a diamond is required - for
           others a diamond engagement ring would be seen as a total insult
           (religious prohibitions against gaudy jewelry, rich guy rubbing in
            just how much more money he has over poorer fiancee, etc) or a
           waste of cash (someone who values eating over stupid shiny rocks
           for instance, or who would rather save those thousands of $$$ to
           spend on the wedding/honeymoon/new home).
        \_ For people who care, a typical guideline is 2 months salary for the
           engagement ring.  My wife and I didn't care though, and we both
           agreed we'd like to use the money in other ways.  I proposed earlier
           than I was planning somewhat spontaneously, and so didn't even have a
           ring.  We picked it out together.  And today (Jan 6) is our 4th
           wedding anniversary.  Yay!  -emarkp
           \_ Pre-tax salary or after-tax?
                \_ I was told three months pre-tax.
                   \_ That "guideline" comes straight from the diamond industry.
                      \_ Ask Partha about his love for de Beers.
        \_ Most people I know who got married recently spent about 6K on
           their engagement ring. That gets you a nice 1+ carat ring. -ax
                \_ My wife was happy with a nice $250 ring sans diamond.
                   \_ Yep.  Save the money and honeymoon in Europe.
                \_ Mine was happy with a ~$450 one with tiny diamond.
           \_ My friend went with her sister to go shop for her engagement
              ring. Then they called up the boyfriend and told him which
              $5k ring to get.
                \_ It's impossible for anyone with a conscience to support
                   de Beers.  It's ridiculous for anyone with a brain to
                   pay thousands of dollars for a rock.  -tom
                   \_  You are SO unromantic tom and most of me agrees with
                       you.  The other part explains that the WHOLE POINT is
                       to spend a shitload of money on something that is
                       essentially worthless as a romantic/symbolic token of
                       irrational Love.  (boy, now i'm more sure it's dumb)-tom
                   \_ the difficulty comes in communicating this to the woman
                      in question
                      \_ The greater difficulty comes in not strangling her
                         when she says she has lost it.
                         (yes, it's REALLY lost, permenantly)
                          \_ Oh no!  What are you some kind of GIRL? who gives
                             a fuck if she lost a hunk of metal and carbon?
                             You didn't lose any more money than you had
                             already lost by buying it.
                         \_ If you're going to spend a dumptruck full of
                            money on the ring, would it be so tough to get
                            it insured?
                            \_ Silly me, I thought it was wasteful to spend
                               $500 a year on insurance, when I could trust
                               my wife to look after things.
                               I'm cured of that now.
                               I also have a greater appreciation for HSN.
                                \_ You are an asshole.
                                   \_ I suggest that he is trolling.  If not
                    he is an idiot as well as an asshole.  He can't possibly
                    think that she (assuming, and i don't, that he actually has
                    a wife...) actually lost something worth X thousand $$.
                    She lost a rock that would never be worth anything except
                    as a symbol, which, if he were a decent human being it
                    could have been in spades.  Being decent about something
                    like that can earn you as many points as wasting your money
                    on the damn thing in the first place.  The money Was wasted
                    BEFORE she lost the thing, A husband in this position could
                    get TWICE what he paid for.
        \_ it doesn't matter. YOU'LL BE SORRY!!! (to the newly weds)
        \_ "I'm Tom Shane.  You have a *friend* in the diamond business."
2000/1/2-5 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17147 Activity:very high
01/01   Galaxy Quest: GO SEE THIS MOVIE!  Best movie I've seen since Matrix
        and Men in Black before that.
        \_ You got to be kidding.  Galaxy Quest sucks!  Dumb humor.  Lame plot.
                \_ Ok, if you're a hard core trekky and you take yourself far
                   too seriously, then you'll think it sucks.  Normal people
                   will like it.  Trekkies will be shamed properly, hopefully.
                        \_ You do need to know some star trek and sci-fi
                           fandom references to get the most out the film.
                           \_ I'm not a big fan but I enjoyed GQ.
        \_ Best movie yet all year!
        \_ GQ was unbelievably funny.  -John
        \_ "American Beauty" is a hella funny dark comedy.  That's worth
           a viewing if you haven't seen it yet!
        \_ being john malkovich > fight club >> american beauty  -tom
           \_ all three are definitely worth seeing though.
                \_ American Beauty is definitely better than most of the
                   Hollywood schlock, but it's not really a dark comedy
                   and it's contrived in parts.  -tom
        \_ Swimming with Sharks, - 1997(?) Kevin Spacey, was one of the
           best romantic comedies I've seen.
           \_ Romantic comedy?  Um... it wasn't exactly a date movie.
              Good, though.
              \_ I took a girl once to see Cronenberg's "Crash"
                 she liked it - paolo
                 \_ I watched crash with an ex-gf right after we broke up.
                    \_ Why waste your time talking to your ex?  That's a movie
                       you should have seen with a new girl, not burned with
                       an old one.
                 \_ YOU'VE NEVER TOUCHED A GIRL IN YOUR LIFE.  FUCKING LIAR.
                    \_ Muhahahahah. muhahahahah. - paolo
                    \_ Movies to you are an excuse to touch girls?
                        \_ Movies are a good way to get laid easy.  It only
                           costs a few bucks, you don't have to talk to her
                           and if it's a chick flick, you're in.  Just don't
                           screw it up by ragging on the film.
                           \_ I'm afraid of your taste in women.
                                \_ Who said anything about "women"?  I said
                                   "a good way to get laid easy".  And cheaper
                                   than your mother.
                                   \_ ok, I'm afraid of your taste in 12 year
                                      olds.
                                        \_ Hardly.  You're living in some weird
                                   \_ all of those are unkonowns to me
                                           idealistic puritanical fantasy
                                           world where women don't want sex, no
                                           one gets a quick lay, and only up-
                                           standing moral people such as your-
                                           self are having sex in committed
                                           monogamous relationships.  The real
                                           world is full of perfectly normal
                                           adults, male and female, having
                                           consenting sex with people they dont
                                           really know or care about.  I'm
                                           sorry if the rest of the us don't
                                           meet your high moral standards, but
                                           it's legal and it happens all the
                                           time.  Ready to leave the ivory
                                           tower, yet?
                                           \_ noone said women don't like sex.
                                              I'm just afraid of anyone who
                                              dates chicks that enjoy "chick
                                              flicks"  (unless of course
                                              by chick flick you mean anything
                                              that doesn't involve lots of
                   \_ Wake up!  No, you wake up!  No, YOU wake up!
                                              guns and explosives and no plot
                                              in which case you are just
                                              pathetic, or Fuzzy.  Wait
                                              just pathetic works for that
                                              case too.)
                                                \_ No guns, no violence, no
                                                   hot babes = chick flick.
                You miss the point.  I live in a world where the girl _/
                sees a guy flick, and as long as she doesn't screw it
                up by ragging on the film, she's "in".  I'm sorry you
                are forced to submit to chick flicks.  Really.
                \_ Yeah, yeah, whatever.  Wake up.  I'm not talking about
                   CSUA chix.  I'm talking women in the real world.
                        \_ CSUA chicks don't date.
           \_ My goodness, someone else knows this movie. Yes, a brilliant
              one with Spacey, (and Frank Whaley) but much darker than
              American Beauty. 1995 -bz
              \_ yes, babob.  it's me.
        \_ Supernova: 2 weeks advanced advertising, no previews, unknown plot,
           unknown actors.  It's a winner!  January 14th!!!
                \_ Isn't this the lame space movie they've been showing
                   previews of since thanksgiving?  (Medical ship rescues a
                   guy who brings abord something that's going to kill them all.)
                        \_ No.  That was called "Eclipse" or something like
                           that.  Different lame space movie.  Same genre.
                                \_ Actually, you're an idiot.  Yes, that's
                                   the lame space movie that they've been
                                   advertising.  It looks terrible.  But it
                                   doesn't have unknown actors: James Spader,
                                   Angela Basset, Lou Diamond Phillips, Vincent
                                   D'Onofrio, and Robin Tunney.  How that cast
                                   could end up in something that looks like
                                   such schlock, I have no idea.
                                   \_ all of those are unknowns to me
                                   \_ Hey fuck you.  They didn't give the
                                      actors list in the ads, such as they
                                      were, lasting all of 15 second's.  Go
                                      fuck yourself.
                                        \_ You're an idiot for picking a
                                           "winner" for no reason.
                                           \_ Heard of "sarcasm"?  It's right
                                              in between "gullible" and "moron"
                                              in most dictionaries.
                                              \_ your dictionary doesn't know
                                                 how to alphabetize
                                                  \_ Sure does.  I just
                                                     checked.  Go check yours.
                                        \_ That's what http://www.imdb.com is for
                                           Use the net luke.
                                           \_ The 15 second ads were enough of
                                              a hint.  I wasn't that curious.
1999/12/22-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17089 Activity:very high
12/22   I know the motd is not normally a place to say anything remotely
        serious, but this seems pretty important to me.  There is a petition
        to legalize same sex marriage in California.  It needs signatures
        to get on the ballot.  They are asking people to download the
        signature form off the web and fill it out.  If you are registered to
        vote in California and feel same sex marriages are important please
        either visit the web site at http://www.samesexmarriage.org (.com is a
        straight porn site btw) or take a look at /tmp/csua/petition.pdf.
                                        -aspo
        \_ Windows RULES! Linux SUX! BAN Linux.
        \_ I'd feel my marriage was somehow something less if reduced to a
           mere legal contract so queers can feel good about being queer.  Go
           feel good some where else.  Not interested.
        \_ Won't move back to CA until you can marry your boyfriend?  That's
           pretty serious.  I'll be signing so we can get it on the ballot and
           vote it down and be done with it.
        \_ This last weekend, a man and woman came to my door taking a tally
           of people supporting a proposition in march to explicitly ban
           same-sex marriages in CA.  I don't know what was more disturbing,
           that they supported the ban, or that they had a printout of the
           names and addresses of all registered voters in my neighborhood.
                \_ Voter registration lists are public record and easily
                   obtained.  Candidates & parties use them all the time
                   to mail out flyers.
        \_ Since there's a petition to legalize between man & man and women &
           women, is there a petition to legalize marriages between brother &
           sister, uncle & niece, aunt & nephew, father & daughter, mother &
           son, and so on?
                       \_ Orthogonal, and no it is not.  It is a good and
           \_ I'm not sure aobut mother & son type marriages, but it is
              legal to marry your niece/nephew.  Get a clue.  And stop
              trolling.  -aspo
              \_ No it is not legal in this State to marry your niece/nephew.
                 Check out Family Code Section 2200 in
                 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html  My point is that why
                 should we accept one kind of biologically wrong marriage but
                 reject other kinds.
                 \_ and same sex marriage is biologically wrong how?  is
                    opposite sex marriage biologically wrong if they use
                    birth control?
                    \_ No, not nature-wise.  Opposite sex couples who take
                       pills are still biologically "right" (or "fit", or
                       "appropriate") for reproduction nature-wise.  They just
                       cognitively decide to disrupt nature.
                       \_ so marriage has to have something to do with the
                          possibility of reproduction even if the couple plans
                          to never have children?  should people who become
                          sterile non-"cognitively" be banned from marrying?
                          \_ No I didn't think that.  Rather, I agree with the
                             "Marriage is either simply a legal contract ...
                             or marriage is a special institution ..."
                             paragraph below that someone else wrote.
                             \_ What is "special" about it, such that the
                                State has a vested interest in promoting it?
                                I am personally offended that a special
                                interest group gives itself priviledges
                                that it denies a minority group simply
                                due to religious superstition. -ausman
                                \_ Either you think it's "special"; or you
                                   don't, in which case it appears that you
                                   would think we should accept marriage
                                   between any two individuals, including man
                                   and man, uncle and niece, and so on.
                                   & man, uncle & niece, bro & sis, and so on.
                 \_ well then, I stand corrected.  However you still should
                            \_ No, actually.  Orthogonal.
                    get a clue and stop trolling.  Oh and if it really matters
                    to you get your own petition started.  This issue is
                    orthogonal to the issue.  -aspo
                       \_ Disagreement is not trolling.  You've had your say
                          and other think you're wrong.  Tough shit.
                          \_ But trolling often takes the form of disagreement.
                       \_ Orthoganal, and no it is not.  It is a good and
                       relavent point.  Marriage is either simply a legal
                       contract, which should be enterable by any two
                       OR MORE adults, in which case this law doesn't go
                       far enough and simply heaps irrationality on
                       irrationality, or marriage is a special
                       institution designed to foster a particular
                       morality/behaviour by recognizing and to some
                       degree rewarding said behaviour, in which case
                        \_ Unfortunately, marriage is also associated with
                           the "right" to be parents in many peoples minds.
                           To truly fix the system, the state should declare
                           marriage a religious ceremony it no longer has
                           anything to do with, and make all people who want
                           the traditional marriage benefits sign a
                           domestic partnership contract (gets rid of the
                           whole pre-nup mess as well, since that would be
                           included in the contract).  Those who want to be
                           parents should be required to get a license,
                           everyone else given mandatory birth control.  Then
                           you've taken both religion & genetics out of the
                           picture, and prevented a whole lot of unwanted
                           pregnancies and children born to people who can't
                           or won't take care of them.
                       homosexual marriages don't fit the bill.
1999/12/22-23 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Men, Computer/SW/Security] UID:17085 Activity:high
12/21   So I'm looking for Logo information -- I go to bh's Web page, and just
        below his photo is a link inviting me to "Take a look at my son Heath."
        NO WAY!!!  bh actually found a female to get intimate with him?
        Is/was bh married?  Or is this some kind of weird I-hate-my-family-so-
        I'll-pick-a-new-one thing like benco and his "fathers" Allman and
        McKusick?
        \_ he adopted a 12 year old boy.  single parent. unmarried.
                        \_ no, 11
             \_ Some morons let that total bug eyed freak get his molestor's
                dirty fat little paws on a helpless child which he promptly
                posted pictures of on the net?  WTF is this country coming to?
                Next, they'll let queers marry.
                \_ You obviously don't know BH personally. So quit trolling.
                   FYI, there's no law (or reason) against posting your kids'
                   pictures on the net, he wanted a kid for nearly a decade,
                   and had to put up with the social service system (which is
                   ridiculously biased against men) for that long, and has
                   a master's in clinical psychology to show for the statement
                   that he's capable of caring for the kid properly.
                   \_ Oh yeah, I went to school so I must know all about kids!
                      You're so completely clueless and dense.  There's a very
                      good reason they don't give children to unmarried men.
                      The only shock is that they let freakoid have one after
                      *any* number of years of trying.  Normal people who want
                      kids try out this thing called "marriage" and they "have
                      sex" and "procreate".  Try it sometime... or in your
                      case, please don't.  The gene pool is sufficiently
                      polluted.
                      \_ I agree. Lezbo "couple" adoptions and sperm
                         inseminations should be banned by law.
1999/12/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17075 Activity:very high
12/20   Of the 200 some primate species living today, we are the only one
        that are bi-pedal (walk exclusively on two hind legs). What happened?
        \_ God made it that way
        \_ Excepting, of course, yer mom.  -John
        \_ God fucked up
        \_ Geez, take an anthro course, why doncha? There's only one
           species of anything with a 12 foot neck anymore, either.
           \_ humans and dolphins are the only two species that has sex
           It's called "adaptation"+"competition"
        \_ humans are the only ones that use symbolic language,
           so what's your point?
           \_ humans and dolphins are the only two species that have sex
              for pleasure.
              \_ How did you conclude this about Dolphins?  They practise
                 contraception too?
                 \_ Perhaps from personal experience?
              \_ Incorrect.  All mammals have sex for pleasure. Humans
                 (and probably dolphins and possibly chimps...) are the
                 only animals that have sex with the intent to procreate.
                        So where do all those other baby animals _/
                        come from?  Accidents?
                        \_ Richard Gere's butt.
                        \_ They have sex, they procreate, but they have
                           no "intent" to procreate.  People will have
                           sex to make babies.  Animals do sex for sex.
                           \_ Good point.
                 Also, Bonobos are an example of another animal that has
                 sex purely for recreation, as well as for conflict
                 resolution and a myriad of other reasons. (Bonobos have a
                 LOT of sex) -crebbs
                 \_ Add male-male/female-female genital rubbing to the list,
                    as proof of non-procreative purpose
                \_ PRINCETON RUB!
                \_ In Soda Hall?
1999/12/9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17042 Activity:very high
12/8    tjb's "sweetie": http://playboy.com/oncampus/pictorial/index.html
        \_ She's got huge tits, a pretty face, shaved pussy, and she appeared
           in Playboy.  She did not fuck tjb.  Boys like that don't get action
           with women like this.  I seriously doubt tjb is anything but a loud
           mouthed virgin.  Anyone actually getting laid on a semi-regular
           basis wouldn't feel the need to post to usenet about it.  Sex just
           isn't that big a deal.  I don't post about how often I have lunch,
                 Public policy, if I remember correctly.
           even when I have a really great lunch.  It's just lunch.  What we
           really need for some serious low brow entertainment is tjb here on
           the motd.  That'd be good for some laughs until he got squished.
           \_ You need to eat less
                \_ Then I might turn into a tjb clone posting about how great
                   my last meal was at McD's.
           \_ was she shaved before, or does playboy "encourage" them?
                \_ Does it matter?
                  \_ definately. I want to know how common it is to find
                     a girl with big tits and a shaved puss, who hasn't
                     already done photo spreads
                        \_ Unlikely.  Shaving is for better pussy eating and
                           lots of sex without getting as rubbed raw from the
                           hair on both her and her partners.  Most women
                           aren't having *that* much sex.  It's also a fetish
                           thing for folks who have a little girl fetish.
                             \_ wanting better pussy eating is unlikely?
                                \_ No, but most people aren't aware of this and
                                   aren't that kinky.  They'd be more likely
           party bs.  A lot of good looking women attend cal.  Just go
           to the IHouse or southside.
                                   to do it if they understood the effects.  Or
                                   maybe not if they understood they have to
                                   keep it smooth or it'll itch like hell.
                     \_ I've dated a couple of women with big tits and
                        a shaved puss who weren't doing photo spreads. They
                      they drop, at 14. I'm sure you've had a lot of
                      experience at that.
                        were all into sex.
                        \_ Yes.  Just like I said above.  It's an anti-friction
                           thing.
        \_ I've had better.  Ok but a bit saggy even for a 'big' girl.
           \_ Anything less saggy would be implants, I'd think.
                \_ You'd be incorrect.
                   \_ Thats right. you've got to get them before
                      they drop. [get them at ] 14.
                      \_ They don't drop at 14.  I've never illegally touched
                         a girl.  I've been with 14 year olds.
              \_ Actually what I wanted to say is "anything less saggy at her
                 age would be implants."  I've seen very full and firm ones on
                 some teenage girl that are real but look like implants.
        \_ I never realized girls like this attended Cal. I guess she's
              probably not an engineer, huh? --dim
              \_ She dropped out after the pictorial to do some sort of
                 modeling work in LA. And no she was not in engineering.
                 Pubic policy, if I remember correctly.
                 \_ She didn't go out with Buckingham, though.
                    \_ Actually, disturbingly enough, the claim he posted
                       on the newsgroup is correct; I know 3 people who
                       were witness to the event. And they were surprised
                       no less than the rest of us to hear it, too.
                        \_ You can hire a hooker to do almost anything.  What
                           would it cost to get a chick willing to show her
                           shaved cunt to the world to walk around the dorms
                           with you once or twice?  I figure about $5.00.
        \_ Sigh.  Why don't you ask csuaers who know brooke?  Ask your
           current treasurer, Twohey, or bensch.  Fuck vi and this 3rd
           party bs.  Take your own advice and consult the src.
           \_ okay, then another question for "the src",
              "HOW did he scam her into going out with him?"
                \_ $5.00.  Don't be naive.
                \_ Actually, it was pot.  Brooke used to be a sweet and
                   innocent little girl with "a boyfriend back home" and then
                   she became a stoner.  Yay pot culture.
                \_ Ok, so she's a stoner with bad taste in men.  And now she's
                   in LA working as a call girl.  I wouldn't brag about this
                   if it were me.  "Yeah, I dated this one stoner chick with
                   big tits who dropped out and now 'dates' a lot".
        \_ A lot of good looking women attend cal.  Just go to the IHouse
           or southside.
           \_ IHouse is all foreigners.  Southside is all drug addicts.
              \_ Fuck off elitist white boy.
        \_ At the time I was surprised at it. But today it comes as no
           wonder to me that after I stopped hanging with CSUAers socially
           not only did I start dating more, but I started dating attractive
           women. The women associated with the CSUA tend to contrast
           pretty significantly with the arrogant pricks the men tend to be.
           \_ I've been saying this to my friends who socialize in the CSUA
              for years but they're too afraid to join the real world.  There
              are some really great women out there.  Out there = not in the
              CSUA.  Just don't discuss the latest kernel patch on your first
              date and you'll be fine.
                \_ The right woman will be the one to bring up the latest
                   kernel patch in the first place
                   \_ Get some sun.  Not the workation kind.
                   _/
          _ http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99dec/19991208.html
1999/11/30-12/1 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16981 Activity:moderate
11/30   http://news.excite.com/news/r/991129/18/life-penis about man suing
        Starbucks for crushing his penis.  $500,000 to his wife for loss of
        his services.
        \_ BANG!  Judgment is in favor of the plaintiff, $500 for the
           price of one deluxe vibrator and a life-time's supply of batteries,
           in lieu of your husband's services.
1999/11/27-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16956 Activity:very high
11/27   i have a question fer ya.  i am looking for a place or site from
        which i can buy posters of the pictures the hubble telescope has
        recorded.  some sweet shit for sure.  crazy beautiful constellations,
        nebulas, galaxies.  amazing.  Any Ideas?
        \_ pokemon around the nasa web site and you can find a lot of cool images
           FOR FREE.
        \_ poke around the nasa web site and mew can find a lot of cool
           images FOR FREE.   [corrected to 80 columns, pokemon destroyed]
        \_ You're not gonna find any images of constellations from hubble,
           fucknut, be they crazy or beautiful or whatever. I don't know
           hubble's visible angular diameter but it's pretty fuckin small.
           Of course, you could try to piece together collections of
           images taken under the same magnifications but why not just get
           yourself a cheap reflector on a dobsonian mount or something?
           They're like $300-400 for a 6' and they're pretty fuckin good.
           A lot cheaper than the >$2000 catadioptric fuckers.
           http://www.telescope.com has some made by Orion, I think.
           \_ Because the guy only wants a $15 poster that looks good on his
              dorm wall, not a $350 dust magnet?
              \_ actually, it's for a girl.
                \_ Same thing.  The only reason to put anything on your dorm
                   wall is to "look cool" (as if that's possible living in
                   the dorms) so you can get laid.  Somehow I doubt geeky
                   stellar images will do it though.  I hope your wannabe date
                   is an astro major or asked for it or something.
                   \_ actually, she graduated about a year ago.
                        \_ If she's not an astro geek you're a fool.  "Jimmy is
                           so nice!  Look at this poster he got me!  I wore the
                           sexy panties you like so much!  Bobby, where's
                           your condom?"
                           \_ actually, she asked me for where to get stuff.
                           \_ another loser will never get laid.
                                \_ "Oh thanks, Jimmy!!  I just love the
                                    poster! You're such a nice guy!  Have you
                                    seen Bobby?  I need to get laid!"  I'm
                                    married so I don't have to put up with
                                    that BS any more but this guy is being
                                    used.  When he runs out of posters and his
                                    shoulder is too wet to cry on about her
                                    various boyfriends, he'll never see her
                                    again.
                                    \_ Damn man you've got some major
                                       emotional/relationship issues on
                                       your mind.  Maybe you should seek
                                       professional help to deal with your
                                       mysogynistic rage.  Of course, you're
                                       probably right about astroboy and
                                       his poster-grubbing pseudo-gf. *shrug*
                                       \_ I love women.  I hate stupid selfish
                                          women.  I hate the men that enable
                                          those women.  And yes, I'm right.
                                          No, I have no relationship issues.
        \_ "Lying in my plastic bed, yeah I borrrowed that line from a friend,
           You call me when you  fight each week, your tears and his cum
           running down your cheek.  You say its good we're only friends,
           well all good things come to an end, I can't say that I understand
           why you love to hate this man."
           \_ What is this quoted from?
           \_ I can't understand why both men and women are this stupid.
                \_ You people are so broken it's almost but not quite funny.
Useful     \       Poster boy:  you might want to check by the Rand McNally
Information |->    map shop in San Francisco, they occasionally have some cool
Alert!!    /       space posters.  Or any Nature Company/clone.  -John
                   \_ Thanks John for finally sending a real signal through
                        all the noise.
        \_ [deleted]
        \_ Cal-Tech Gift shop has tons of them.
1999/11/23-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16946 Activity:kinda low
11/23   That's the problem with polygamy--all those rings get expensive!
        \_ I thought the problem was prison?
        \_ If rings and prison are your biggest problem with having multiple
           wives around, you're probably in luck...
           \_ I don't hate women, have a problem with women, or think poorly
              of women.  Legal issues are my only problem.  What's wrong with
              multiple women if they're happy with it?
              \_ contrariwise, what's the problem with only LEGALLY
                 marrying one? There's no law specifically against
                 "infidelity". There's just grounds for divorce.
                 \_ I want to marry them all.  They all want to marry me.  Who
                    are you to tell me I can legally have only one wife and the
                    rest must remain unacknowledged?  How can I possibly tell
                    the ones I don't marry that they'll just have to be my live
                    in girlfriends and should hope my "real wife" doesn't bust
                    us all for it?  How would you choose which one to marry?
                    The problem is nosy body clowns like you sticking your nose
                    into other's business.  Get out of my life and I'll stay
                    far away from yours.  The first thing I'll decide is you're
                    not allowed to masturbate anymore... not legally.  ahem.
                 \_ I thought there is, at least in CA, but they're just not
                    enforced.
                    \_ I think its probably a civil issue. Which menas
                       your wife woudl have to file it. Whereas for "bigamy"
                       (from the viewpoint of legal marriage)
                       I think the state can come after you reguardless
                       of what your wives think.
                 \_ This is precisely what polygamists do nowadays.  Only marry
                    one wife legally, and just live with the others.  It's a
                    difficult issue (there are reports of child abuse/young
                    marriages in such communities).
                     \_ As opposed to other communities where there are no
                        reports of Child abuse/young marriages?
                     \_ Get out of my life!  I don't want to "just live with
                        the others".  I have the God given right to marry who
                        I choose.
1999/11/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16935 Activity:nil
11/21   Friday was the last totally odd date in our lifetimes: 11/19/1999
        was the last time until 1/1/3111 that all the digits in the date
        are odd.
1999/10/25-27 [Recreation/Dating, Finance, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:16763 Activity:moderate
10/24   Congratulations, Christine and Ari! Just Married!
        \_ Lotsa CSUA couples getting married lately. Must be the economy
        \_ Wow, one of the MANY CSUA couples getting married this year.
                \_ Who else?  Everyone else who was engaged at the same
                   time as those two was married long ago.
        \_ and about time in this case.
        \_ so how many times have they been "married" now?
           \_ officially once; ceremonially once. is it any more complicated?
            \_ yes, christine "look at me" lee has announced this marriage
               at least four times.  -tom
                \_ look at her?  uhm.. no.
        \_ good economy, 1999/2000 hype, marriage, kids, car, mortgage.
           Welcome to the world of typical working class.
1999/10/17-19 [Recreation/Dating, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:16712 Activity:very high
10/16   It seems that PacBell charges differently for business and home
        DSL. My company of 2 people (located in a rental office in Berkeley)
        would like connectivity via PacBell DSL. Can I just tell the PacBell
        people that we use it for home, and get charged less? Is that
        possible? Has anyone had any experience with this?

16OCT   anyone know what the STAR WAGGONS parked along bancroft
        were about on friday?  ==ahm.
        \-if a business is payingthe bill you probably cant opt for the
        home option. it is the same for phone lines. in theory i suppose
        there is a tax issue too should you or the business get audited.
        if the is a sole-proprietorship it might be hard to tell however.--psb
        \_ Similar question to the above... if I get DSL, will I still be
           qualified for Universal Lifeline Plan? It's really a $ saver.
           \_  D'you have the income qualifications for it?  Household
               yearly income less than $20k or so?  If you satisfy that
               it's perfectly fine to spend your money on DSL.  PacBell
               wouldn't care if you spent your money on drugs or cigarettes,
               would they?  So why would they mind if you got net?  --PeterM
                \_ Because addiction is considered a disability and they can be
                   sued for discriminating against someone based on their
                   disability.  They can not be sued for discriminating
                   against someone based on their bandwidth.  That's why.
           \_ see:  http://www.pacbell.com/products/residential/basic/dialtone/uni-life/features.html#qualify
           \_ If you're enough of a hotshot to pay for/have your company
              pay for DSL, what the fuck are you doing on the Universal
              Lifeline plan?  I'd rather the hidden charges inflating my
              phone bill go to subsidizing some poor person who actually
              *needs* that cheap access, not a "golly, it's really a $
              saver!" weenie brat like yourself.
                \_ Well, I'm just a poor student TRYING to startup a company
                        \_ Then you'll need to get someone to invest more money
                           in you instead of trying to abuse the system.
                \_ Whoa!  I actually totally agree with another motd poster
                   that isn't me.
                   \_ Thanks, man.  I try.  -- not you

16OCT   anyone know what the STAR WAGGONS parked along bancroft
        were about on friday?  ==ahm.
        \_ they were filming a movie.  they wil be filming today.
        \_ http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=629
           \_ Movies suck, man.  If the plot they describe in that article was
              concerned with being anywhere near true-to-life, the "straight-
              laced, anal retentive" engineering student would have a lonely
              four years of masturbation at home while watching his "happy-go-
              lucky spirit" friend date a series of increasingly larger
              assholes (while whining to the engineering student about what an
              asshole each guy was).  Then, at the end, instead of the two
              realizing they're the only people for each other, they'd fail to
              hook up, and the movie would end with the chick marrying the
              biggest asshole of all, and with the geek dying at 1 AM in his
              shiny-new-silicon-valley-job-after-graduation cramped cubicle
              from a heart attack brought on by overwork (and it takes a few
              days for anyone to notice the body -- he came in to work the
              weekend, since he didn't have a life or anywhere else to go).
              Now *that* would be a Berkeley film I could identify with!!
                \_ Hahhahahhahha... a bit bitter?  I doubt your more accurate
                   version would do as well in the movies.  I especially like
                   the part about dating bigger and bigger assholes and whining
                   to him about each one.  The problem?  Engineer boy didn't
                   treat his so-called friend the way she wanted to be treated.
                   She wanted him to treat her like crap, he never did, so she
                   dumped on him for four years and would have driven her new
                   mini-van to his funeral but she was busy and his parents,
                   (the only people who know he's dead), didn't know he even
                   knew a female during college, much less lived with one.  Dad
                   thought he was a poofster.  These parts were probably cut to
                   reduce the screen time to 92 minutes.
                   \_ The "Christmas Theory" explains this.  --sowings
                      \_ What is the "Christmas Theory"?  Please explain.
                        \_ I'm guessing he's talking about nice happy Hollywood
                           endings but may be completely wrong.  IANAL.  YMMV.
                         \_ I believe (but I'm not sowings) that it's
                            likening relationships to a little kid's desire
                            for Christmas morning to come . . . it'll be this
                            BIG GREAT THING, better than *ANYTHING* in the
                            WORLD -- and then when Christmas does come, it's
                            a disappointment, 'cause it wasn't so great.
                            So female holds a similar attitude towards snaring
                   third or fourth time he beats her up, she gets his home
                   number through information (since she didn't need to keep in
                   touch since she as 'happily' married now and didn't need him
                   to whine at), calls it and gets the "number is no longer in
                   service" message and says something about "he was just an
                   asshole anyway, like all men, and who needs him?  He was
                   never really there for me".
                            asshole guys (to the extent that she has blinders
                            on towards other more righteous eligible guys like
                            our geek friend) -- and once she gets them, finds
                            out that it wasn't as great as she thought it'd
                            be.
                            \_ Ah yes.  That's more like it.  There's also
                               usually a touch of, "I can change him and make
                               him into a better person!" soon followed by,
                               "I hate all men, all men are evil" followed
                               by either an even bigger asshole or some
                               ridiculous lesbian experiment because "women
                               are evil like men are!"  HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
             \_ I can see the ending -- "happy-go-lucky spirit" and asshole
                husband, sitting in a car . . . "I don't know, Todd -- I mean
                I *think* I should go to the funeral, because he was, like,
                sorta a friend to me, almost, at school -- we talked and
                stuff . . . "  Asshole husband: "Just relax and forget about
                it, Buffy -- let's go SNOWBOARDING!!"  Happy couple drive off
                into the sunset in their teal VW Jetta with two $2,500
                mountain bikes strapped to the top.
                \_ Nah, she wouldn't even know about it.  More like, after the
                   third or fourth time her husband beats her up, she gets geek
                   boys' home number through information (since she didn't
                   need to keep in touch since she as 'happily' married now
                   and didn't need him to whine at), calls it and gets the
                   "number is no longer in service" message and says
                   something about "he was just an asshole anyway, like all
                   men, and who needs him?  He was never really there for me".
           \_ Berkely Engineer student, eh? Will there actually be Asian
              people in this movie?
              \_ Yeah.  They'll be the pimply uber-geeks with coke-bottle
                 glasses who're *REALLY* good at math.  They'll also pep up
                 Our Hero with comments like "Well, at least you've *had*
                 a date!  You know guys like me never have any luck with
                 women!"
                 \_ Because all the Asian chicks are going out with white
                    frat boys.
                    \_ Funny.  I don't recall joining a fraternity. -dans
                        \_ Too much alcohol induced homosexual activity has
                           shorted out your mind.
                    \_ good, that will leave me their white women! @$1@N P0w3|Z
1999/10/12-13 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16695 Activity:very high
10/12   How come my guys friends give me condolences while my gal friend
        congratulate me for getting married?    -going to be married on 1/1/00
        \_ Cool, marriage by candlelight!
        \_ theyre jsut jealous.
        \_ theyre just jealous.
        \_ their just jealous.
           \_ Yeah, you must have a very cute girlfirend.
              -going to be married on 10/23/99
        \_ the girls are trying to encourage the servitude of men.
           the guys just give it to you straight.
        \_ Put it simple, you are going to jail.
        \_ please places bets on first CSUA divorce
1999/10/6 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16674 Activity:nil
10/6    Friend is getting married. Should I just be polite and
        congratulate him, or give him my condolences?   -guy
        \_ Is this the same friend as mine? Initials AJS
        \_ Must be some bitch he's marrying.
1999/9/23-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16582 Activity:high
9/23    I like to sleep with this guy at work but he has a gf, what do I do?
        \_ Strip naked in front of him in his office/cubicle.  He'll be so
           impressed that he'll dump his gf and go with you.  It worked for
           me.
           \_ This doesn't always work. He'll just treat you like a cheap
              slut and go back to his gf. You need to give him a blow job
              at work for him to dump his gf.
              \_ she won't move over!
                 \_ Give her a blow job. She should freak out and give
                    you some room. If she doesn't consider a menage a trois.
1999/9/23 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16581 Activity:nil
9/23    I like this girl at work but she has a bf, what do I do? how do
        I break them up?
        \_ Go on the Jerry Springer show, claiming you've had a  homosexual
           relationship with the BF.
        \_ Kill him in front of her then claim to her and the cops you saved
           her from him when he went balistic on her over her passionate
           secret sexual relationship with you.  She'll go along with it just
           to avoid embarassment.  Worked for me.
1999/9/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16557 Activity:high 50%like:17243
9/20    Is there anything better than anal sex?
        \_ nasal.
        \_ So you like it up the rear, eh?
        \_ Depends... do you "pitch" or do you "catch?"
        \_ anal sex with your mom?
        \_ aural sex.
1999/9/19-20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16552 Activity:high
9/18    what does the term "co-ed" mean?

        1 : of or relating to a coed
        2 : of or relating to coeducation
        3 : open to or used by both men and women
        4: a sexy little sorority slut
1999/8/3 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16229 Activity:high
8/3     Will anybody be holding a "How not to hit on every EECS chick you see."
        help session?
        \_ There would be more turnout for a "How to score with every
           EECS chick you see" session.
           Then again, given how most of them look...
                \_ You been on campus lately son?
           \_ There'd be the problem of who to teach the course....
           \_ Well, jean is cute, anjie is wild, and fonger is kinda okay too.
1999/7/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16178 Activity:nil
7/21    Rhys is ugly
        \_ Hella better looking than her husband nevin.
           \_  They're married??!  I thought they were siblings!
        \_ Yer just bitter she won't go on a date with you.
        \_ She's hella ugly, but still much better than the average EE/CS
1999/7/6 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Security] UID:16085 Activity:nil
7/6     Do you guys think that http://whitehouse.com shouldn't be what it is?
1999/7/4-5 [Recreation/Dating] UID:16065 Activity:high
7/03  What came first, the chicken or the egg?
        \_ You must be pretty bored.
        \_ The egg! Marilyn Jarvis* argues that something that was
        almost a chicken laid an egg that grew into a chicken.
        (*she's formerly the world's highest IQ holder) -vann
         \_ I figured that one out when I was about 10.  BFD.  I don't have
            anything near the world's highest IQ and didn't need it to figure
            \_ you probably don't have breasts either.
            that one out.  You just have to believe in and understand basic
            evolution.
            \_ you probably don't have breasts either.
                \_ They're probably not as big as yours.  Your point, if any?
        \_ I always said it depended on whether a chicken egg was
           something laid by a chicken or something a chicken hatched out
           of.
                \_ How big are your breasts?
1999/6/25 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW] UID:16016 Activity:moderate
6/24    Wow, Trevor Buckingham got into the major. For those who haven't
        heard of our illustrious friend, his saga can be found at
        http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/library/rants/trevor_buckingham.txt
        \_ Sounds like a true a-hole (and a pretty incompetent and rude
           one judging from his emails).  He truely belongs in another major.
           \_ a-holes in other majors are more discreet, hip, and get more
              women
        \_ Wow.  That guy's pretty amazing.  If I were Clancy, I would
           have beaten him to death with my Birkenstocks.
        \_ interesting. But it is a .txt file. it should be formatted to
           80 cols
                \_ Formatting fixed -brg
        \_ At least I finally found out about the JERK who almost
           F*CKED over Han Shen last semester. If I had know that this
           guy was such a prick, I would have lent Han my shotgun...
           \_ what happened?
           \_ Han is The Man. We should appeal to have that guy kicked out of
              the major just for being rude to Han. Come on, he must have
              violated SOME UC code of conduct.
        \_ I'm so glad I graduated and can now fire/not hire pricks like that.
1999/6/20-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15993 Activity:nil
6/20    <DEAD>www.hecklers.com/jarjartorture/jarjartorture.html<DEAD>
         \_the sex survey there (at hecklers) is much funnier.
1999/6/18 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15984 Activity:high
6/18    I love you
        \_I need my space.
        \_you pay my rent
        \_ But I don't love you.  Was our not-hooking-up unofficial?  Do I
           have to validly not hook up with you?  What's the official way to
           not get together with someone?  Please help!  -being stalked
        \_ http://www.arctic.org/~mogul/SpaceGhost/SG-bk_love.wav -notmogul
1999/6/17-18 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15980 Activity:insanely high
6/17    I'd like to breakup with my gf, but I can't get rid of her. She
        keeps insisting that the breakup is invalid. Help. Please. This
        is not a troll.                                 -desperate man
                \_ http://www.breakupgirl.com
        \_ You can get a brand new one for $200 at JavaOne. --psb
        \_ sounds like a sienfeld episode.
        \_ Ok, kids, in short the story is that nothing that happens to you
           in college, socially speaking, is life long or important.  youre
           *supposed* to have numberous bf/gf's in college.  theyre *not*
           important.  youre *not* marrying any of them and a college fling
                                \_ Unless you're a csua geek like shyguy,
                                   marco, alanc, etc. who have married their
                                   college gf's.
                                   \_ Yes, it can happen, but it isn't happening
                                      with someone you're breaking up with!!!
                                      >DUH!<  It sure as hell isn't happening
                                      as a common event and it isn't happening
                                      more than once per college stint and it
           \_ avoid getting into relationships with people like this
                \_ Good call, but you never know til it's too late.
                                      isn't typical by any means.  You are *not*
                                      marrying someone you 'trying' to break up
                                      with!  sheesh.
                                   \_ shyguy is married??
              advice like this
                                        \_ to ivy
                                           \_ whee!
           \_ this has not been my experience
                                              \_ really??
           is not the same on the scales of life as being married or anything
           else that occurs post-college.  dont take this shit that seriously.
           go party, get laid, have a number of fling things and dont get into
           the teenage angst thing.  dump and walk.  end of story.  this is
           *not* the right time in your life to practice being a "90's" man.
                   \_ avoid getting into relationships with ppl like this
           you wont feel good about it, she won't, no one will.  90's angst
           is bullshit.  it's a lie.  it causes pain, it does not relieve it.
           if you're at the point where you're telling someone you're leaving
           then they just need to deal with that.  dragging it out over some
           stupid dinner and trying to "just be friends" afterwards is bullshit.
           On the JBF crap: so you've got 6+ ex-gf's hanging around all the
           time and you think it's just great, huh?  Ok, how great does your
           current gf feel?  Think about it: how great would you feel if your
           gf was hanging out all the time with her last 6+ bf's?  If this
           doesn't or wouldn't bother you, then you're a fool.  It does/should
           bother your current gf that you're doing the same thing.  Dump and
           walk.  Live in the future, not the past.  You're not life-bonded
           with someone you met in college at a dorm party or in the library.
                - been there, done that, long past it, glad it's gone.  I'm
                  about 12 years beyond the bullshit.  Pray you make it here
                  too.  Don't listen to your same-age peers, they don't know
                  jack more than you do.  How could they?
        \_ I once spent 20 minutes explaining to this chick I was sleeping
           that I was no longer going to sleep with her (for various reasons)
           Nodding with understanding all the way through, at the end she
           said, "Oh, ok.  Well, that means we can still sleep together
           though, right?"  Speechless, I gave up, kicked her out and never
                         \_ Agree.  There's is only 2 way, spend the time
           talked to her again.  *That* message got through to her.  Takes
                            over this ridiculous and moronic concept immediately.
           two to tango, son.  Never feel bad breaking up.  You're doing both
           of you a favor.  Just don't break up somewhere a knife might be
           nearby or anywhere in public like the fools below who suggest a
           restaurant.
           \_ assumption has been gf/bf are not just sleeping together,
              value each other in other ways, and have been seeing each other
              for some time (not just "going out")
              \_ He obviously doesn't value her so much anymore, so it doesn't
                               \_ Obviously he is trying to be a nice guy.
                 matter.  Don't be a wuss or a hypocrite.
                                  looking like an asshole.
                 \_ "obviously"?  I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt
                        \_ He's breaking up with her.  How much can he really
                           care?
                           \_ kids, watch out for folks like this!
                                \_ Kids, watch out for folks who use personal
                                   attack instead of saying thing applicable.
                                        \_ Kids, watch out for folks who use
                                           the English language in such a
                                           horrible fashion.  You too might
                                           start saying things as nonsencical
                                           as "saying thing applicable."
                                           \_ "There you go again!"
        \_ Just refuse to see or talk to her. She'll get the hint sooner
           or later. And if she's living with you, look no further than
           that Carl's Jr. commercial with the girl tossing the guy's
           belongings out the 2nd story window.
           \_ avoid getting into relationships with people who would give
              advice like the above
              \_ obviously sarcasm is not within your grasp.
                \_ Not enough angst in that sort of break up for you?
                   \_ ?
        \_ how come it seems that girls have a harder time accepting
           the break-up than guys?
           \_ this has not been my experience - I'd say guys have ~ or >
              psychoses when dumped
                \_ Then you only know little boys.  Men don't give a shit.
                   It sucks, you bitch about her to a few friends, you find
                   another one in a few days (at most), life goes on.
                   \_ Fine.  That's your perspective and that's your life.
                      I'm just here to say that I have no doubts about what
                      I think.
                        \_ Of course you have no doubts about what you think
                           because you don't think about it.
                           \_ I'm darn confident about it because I've had
                              some experiences, thought about it, and laid
                              things down as to what's "right" in life.
                              (waiting for more comments about having no
                              doubts because I don't think)
                              \_ Ok, I'll bite: you think dragging out the
                                 inevitable is "right"??  You're an unthinking
                                 and very selfish fool.  I'm glad it makes
                                 *you* feel better to think you broke some
                                 one the "right" way.  You can't do a not-nice
                                 thing nicely.  You're a damned fool.
                                 \_ this thread was re Men not being little
                                    boys and Men not giving a shit, bitching
                                    for a few days.  The whole macho crap,
                                    women having a harder time with break-ups
                                    is what I disagree with. [psychoanalysis
                                    voluntarily expunged. didn't know you were
                                    that quick in the editor. I was deleting
                                    it until you overwrote the motd again.]
                                    \_ Don't psychoanalyse me.  You're a child
                                       and a 90's pussy know-nothing.  Tell
                                       your self-help book crap to someone
                                       who cares.
                                       \_ A child?  A 90's pussy know-nothing?
                                          My self-help book?  A very selfish
                                          fool?  A damned fool?  Okay.
                                          This has to do with the macho crap,
                                          not psychoanalysis.
           \_ Girls aren't used to rejection.  They mistakenly think they can
              have any guy any time.  Mostly, it's true, but the few times it
              doesn't happen their way, they can't deal.  Need more rejection
              experience.
        \_ at one time I thought a breakup was invalid, because it was
           over the phone.  Are you LDR?  You should really have a nice
                \_ A break up can not be "invalid".  Where'd this idiotic
                   crap come from?  There's not a set of rules to follow.  You
                   say "CYA!" and it's over.  Via email, phone, letter, in
                   person or radio waves transmitting to her brain via the
                   fillings in her teeth.  "CYA!"  Practice it.
                   \_ it is fucking wonderful if done right.  Whether you
                      think she deserves it, whether you think it's worth
                      your time, whether you think it's worth anyone's time
                      says a lot about what you value
                        \_ What's wonderful?  Breaking up in such a way that
                           you remain "just friends" and this baggage is there
                           at all your social events forever making all future
                           gf's nervous and upset?  I value the future, not
                           the dead and best-forgotten past.
                           \_ it was great, I have no baggage, and I think
                              she's cool
                                \_ And your current gf thinks its cool that
                                   your ex-gf is around all the time?  Uh huh....
                                   \_ um, did I ever say that I hung out with
                                      the ex?  No, I just think she's cool.
                                        \_ Then it doesn't matter how you broke
                                           up beyond soothing your own ego.
                                           \_ No, it matters insofar as this
                                              is another cool person I've
                                              earth.
                                              ID'd that is on the planet
                                              earth.  When the shit hits the
                                              fan, this person does it right,
                                              and I find someone I trust.
           dinner over it, or really just be face to face and up-front.
           In the end, honesty really really matters, and the other person
           will respect you for it (as well as the officialness of the
           breakup).
                \_ I DID TRY an official break-up. However, I feel like
                   George in that break-up episode in Seinfeld. Everytime
                   George says something serious, the gf says "nope,
                   invalid, nope." and continues her life as if nothing
                   happened. HELP.
                   \_ LOSER!  You're now broken up.  _Act_ like it!
                   \_ face-to-face?
                   \_ it doesn't matter. A relationship takes two.
                      If you've told her it's over, then it doesnt matter
                      if she lives in denial for the next 20 years. Get on
                      with your life.
                      \_ I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and
                         say that sodan is not "properly" dumping her -
                         \_ no such thing as "properly dumping" someone.  Get
                            over this ridiculous and moronic concept immediate!
                            \_ there is, and it's a good thing I don't have
                               to prove it to you
                                \_ Or you'd dump me properly?  Stop babbling.
                                   He's not getting divorced from his wife of
                                   many years.  It's a college gf.  Dump and
                                   walk.  The faster, the better for both.
                                   \_ "it's a college gf" wtf?
                                        \_ meaning: you're not married. youre
                                           just experimenting.  it isn't a
                                           real relationship.  youre too young
                                           to take this shit seriously.  now
                                           is the time to experiment and figure
                                           it out so you dont make the same
                                           mistakes later when/if you marry
                                           someone.  your wife wont be interested
                                           in knowing your college flames, so
                                           why are you practicing that skill?
                                           youre wasting your time on that.
                         spend the necessary amount of time for a dump she'll
                         accept - after all you were bf/gf and she does
                         deserve the time
                         \_ Agree.  There's are only 2 ways, spend the time
                            and emotion necessary, or just be a total asshole
                            to her.  No way you can dump her easily and
                            still want to feel good about yourself as a
                            nice guy.
                            \_ He didn't say he wanted to be nice about it.
                               He just wants to break up.  Well, he *did*.  He
                               just needs the balls to act like it.  If the
                               situation were reversed, she'd have called the
                               police already to get her "stalker" ex-bf away
                               from her.
                               \_ Obviously he is trying to have it both ways.
                                  It's easy to breakup if you don't care about
                                  looking like an asshole.  Just do like in
                                  "Dangerous Liasons": Keep repeating "It is
                                  beyond my control", and just walk away.
                                  \_ I *LOVE* that movie!  Awesome!  So this
                                     guy is a little hypocritical pansy prick.
                                     She's obviously a psycho.  They deserve
                                     each other.  Better for everyone else if
                                     they've pulled each other out of the pool
                                     of actively available people.
                                     \_ Ja, how about Michelle Pfeiffer.
        \_ So, basically, PATIENCE and PERSISTENCE are the keys to breakup?
           \_ no, honesty, giving her time, and trying to be fair about it
              - same thing that applies in any non-dysfunctional human
              relationship
           \_ No.  The key is honesty and a clean break.  Don't drag it out li!
              some teenage party-of-five soap opera.  You're not married.  Just
              move on.  You said it.  It's her choice to accept it or not, but
              you shouldn't enable her psychotic control fantasies by dragging
              it out.  Girls: same thing goes for you.  Break his heart fast,
              walk away and never play games.
              \_ ...except for xtrek.  THat's a cool game.
        \_ Damn, how come my topics never generate such interest?
1999/6/17-18 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15977 Activity:moderate
6/17    Here's my dilemma.  When I resigned from my job last week, I
        cleared my desk, by accidently left behind a floppy with some
        random personal letters saved.  I asked a friend who works in the
        office to retrieve it for me.  He did, but my former boss chased
        him down and confiscated the floppy from him.  The floppy is not a
        big deal, but I am pissed about my boss's childish behavior.
        Short of going to the office and cursing her out, is there
        anything I can do?  The floppy is my own personal property.
        \_ Go in there and claim it.  Tell her off.  She's already going to
           give you a bad rec. anyway.  She has no more right to it than if
           you left some desk toy doo-dad in a drawer and she kept it.  Women
           managers are generally more insecure and stupid than male managers.
           \_ this was 80% gratuitous, and 20% helpful
           Go in there and set her shit straight and she'll back down.  She'll
           talk shit about you forever and lie and etc but she was already
           doing that anyway.
        \_ chalk it up as manager psychosis.  my manager still hasn't sent
           the final paycheck of the last employee who quit three months
           ago, even though it's kind of small since he did dock his
           (not commision-based) salary by 2/3 for the month he gave notice.
        \_ My broker still hasn't received all the stocks now even though I
           exercised my options when I quit my last job half a year ago.
                \_ Call up and harass them.  They've stolen from you if you
                   paid for those options.
        \_ simply having a lawyer contact them should be sufficient.
        \_ Why did you resign?
                \_ Who cares?  It isn't relevent.
1999/5/31-6/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15895 Activity:high
5/31    After how many dates can a man ask rightfully to have sex with
        the woman?
        \_ Just by asking this shows you have a looooong way to go in terms
           of dating know-how. But here's a hint: There is no "rightfully"
        \- Hmmm...whoever needs to ask this kind of question on the Soda
           motd is really clueless about sex, or about where to get information
           about sex, or both.
           \_ Not really.  It was a troll but since I agree with you that the
              typical sodan is clueless about life, I provided real answers
           \_ I raped YER MOM! She said NO NO NO I SAID YES YES YES
              anyway.
        \_  it's not about how many dates, it's about how good a troller you
            are.  show her this post, and provide a sample from your usenet
            posts which are probably of a similar caliber, and she will do
            anything for you.
        \_ Never.  You have no right to demand sex.    Doing so is rape.
           \_ moron. rape = "forced physical xx".
              Saying "Give me sex now", is NOT rape.
              Saying, "give me sex now, or I'll kill you" is assult.
                But it STILL ISN'T RAPE.
                \_ Demand != ask rightfully.  However, the entire concept of
                   having a right to ask is nonsense.  You have the right to
                   ask to have sex with anyone at any time.  However, in this
                   troll's case, the prospects of any sex are looking rather
                   dim.  Asking is not rape, however.  Rape is rape.  Duh.
                   Interesting to see a troll reply to a troll.  As a serious
                   \_ are you refering to my troller post?  to respond to such
                      a post is to be pathetic flamebait. h0zer.
                        \_ I was aware it was bait as I said, however, there
                           *are* young boys on soda who need an answer, thus
                           I went ahead and answered, knowing, as stated, that
                           I was replying to a troll.  What your thought was a
                           I was replying to a troll.  What you thought was a
                           troll was really something a number of people here
                           need to understand more clearly in their daily
                           lives.  Thank you for raising the issue and providing
                           that opportunity even if you had only ill intentions.
                   answer to the original troll, however, it depends on what
                   kind of girl she is.  Some girls expect sex on the first
                   date.  Others, nothing before marriage.  What sort of slut
                   whores are you dating?
                        \_ In this country, it doesn't matter what the
                           circumstances are. If a woman says it was rape,
                           it was rape.
                           \_ No, only in bizarre places like Berkeley.  In
                              the rest of the world, some sort of actual
                              physical act is required.  Only in Berkeley are
                              you a rapist for asking for sex.  Of course
                              she'll think you're a faggot if you don't so
                              maybe you just shouldn't bother trying in this
                              city.  Other places I've been are far less fucked
                              up when it comes to sex and relationships.
       \_ WHOEVER DELETED MY POST ON THIS THREAD GETS IT RIGHT BACK
          IN YA FACE!
       \_ Summation of all deleted posts: there is NO "rightfully".
                \_ Fuck you.  Don't read the motd if other people's trolls
                   bother you, asshole.
       \_ I think the original poster misses an important point. If you
          do not have enough of a common vibe with the person you're dating
          to tell whether or not they want to have sex, you should probably
          wait until more intimacy develops.
          \_ There can't be any misunderstandings if you ask her first.
             Ask her when you think she'll say yes.
       \_ Neuter your sodan today, before it's too late!
                \_ someday, some sodan's kid is gonna get a soda account.
          \_ By definition, it's already too late.
       \_ It doesn't depend so much as which date, as how much money you
          spend on the dates.
1999/5/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15882 Activity:nil 66%like:15878
5/25    Less talk about politics and more talk about sex please.
        -- random soda geek
        \_ to badly paraphrase someone, "talking about sex is like
           writing about dancing"
           \_ alas, that's as close as some csua'ers get.
                Why did you delete this?  It is a serious question.
                If a girl is giving you a blow job for the first time,
                should you pull out or not, if you dont know if she
                swallows?
                \_ uh, if she doesn't want to swallow, she'll pull it out
                   by herself.  she's in control in this situation unless
                   you've got her tied up and are just face fucking her.
                \_ Just break wind.  If she keeps going, she's sick enough
                   to swallow.
                        \_ why is it sick to swallow?
                           \_ It isn't.  It's just a weird American cultural
                              thing that cum swallowing women are more whorish
                              than those who don't.  I figure any woman
                              willing to suck cock in the first place
                              shouldn't be prudish about the final stages.
                \_What the hell has "you pulling out" got to do with whether
                  "she swallows" or not? Duh, it's up to her once she gets it
                        \_ So it isn't rude to just keep going and let her do
                           what she wants?  Are you supposed to warn her or
                           something?
                           \_ if those directly involved can't tell when
                              you're about to cum, i think there's something
                              wrong with you.  however, you can always use
                              the tried and true "oh! oh! yes! oh god! i'm
                              cumming!  i'm cummiiiiiiiiiiiiing!"
                              \_What does she do with it after she pulls it
                                out?
                                \_ What, do you want me to give you a class
                                   on the proper way to give a blowjob?
                                \_ If she doesn't swallow it, it gets all over
                                   her hands, face, chest, etc, and you're
                                   supposed to lick it off her.  It's the only
                                   civilized thing to do!
1999/5/26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15878 Activity:high 66%like:15882
5/25    Less talk about politics and more talk about sex please.
-- random soda geek
        \_ to badly paraphrase someone, "talking about sex is like
           writing about dancing"
           \_ alas, that's as close as some csua'ers get.
                Why did you delete this?  It is a serious question.
                If a girl is giving you a blow job for the first time,
                should you pull out or not, if you dont know if she
                swallows?
                \_ uh, if she doesn't want to swallow, she'll pull it out
                   by herself.  she's in control in this situation unless
                   you've got her tied up and are just face fucking her.
                \_ Just break wind.  If she keeps going, she's sick enough
                   to swallow.
                        \_ why is it sick to swallow?
                \_What the hell has "you pulling out" got to do with whether
                  "she swallows" or not? Duh, it's up to her once she gets it
                        \_ So it isn't rude to just keep going and let her do
                           what she wants?  Are you supposed to warn her or
                           something?
1999/5/19 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15839 Activity:nil
5/17    [motd is more interesting when it's about women and sex.  Boring
        shit about java and biking deleted]
1999/5/14-16 [Recreation/Dating, Industry/Jobs] UID:15809 Activity:very high
5/15    i am a sysadmin at a startup, and my female boss tells me
        if i give her sexual favors she will increase my salary from
        120k to 150k plus options(she is the ceo). i dont know what to do
        she is really hot, but married. please help.
        \_ Obviously it's a lie.
        \_ ask her for a 3 way with her husband -- it's ok if her husband
           is involved.
        \_ Yeah right!  As if anything that great could ever happen to a
           Cal geek....
        \_ So sue for sexual harassment and take 10 years of salary to
           the bank.
           \_ My NT sysadmin makes more money than that.
        \_ Oh come on.  This is such an obvious troll, although congratulations
           for ensnaring the few people above who are too stupid to see the
           blatant troll for what it is.  Come on people, wake up.
           \_ i predict that your comment will have no effect and the blathering
              will continue until deleted. -thetroller
                \_ I'm sure you're right.  It's just somewhat surprising
                   anyone could read that and believe it and reply in even a
                   semi-serious way.  Even our discussion of the trollish
                   nature is unlikely to prevent others from adding to it or
                   stop them from thoughtless replies re: future trolls.
                   \_ huh. i guess we both underestimated the inteligence of
                      the flame wariors(hard to do). apparently making direct
                      reference to the troll nature of a post repeatedly and
                      admitting you were the one responsible for the post is
                      enough to shut them up.  worth remembering this...
                                  -thetroller
                        \_ Guess so.  I'm quite amazed, but yes it's worth
                           remembering and far more effective than the
                           typical "troll deleted" replacement.
        \_ I'm a petite young asian fantasy dreamboat 36-21-36, and
           my cs61A TA wants to cum in my face for an A on the final exam.
           what should I do?
           \_ Take drugs.
1999/4/28 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15713 Activity:insanely high
4/27    So . . . say you meet that one woman who seems to be your ideal; you
        ask her out, she says yes, and you find she's even *MORE* ideal than
        you thought.  The date ends amicably; you both agree you should meet
        again next week, and that you'll call at a specified date/time to set
        things up.  Inbetween then, she E-mails you to say that after further
        thought, you're not right for one another, and wishes you well . . .
        is it socially acceptable and within the rules to make that *ONE*
        phone call to try and convince her otherwise, or is that operating
        from such a position of desperately transparent geeky neediness that
        the only gentlemanly thing to do is say "okay", fade away, and never
        be heard from again?
        \_ I'm almost 21 and haven't gone on a single date in my life. I
           guess that's what you get for being a CS nerd.
           \_ I'm almost 24 and haven't gone on a single date in my life
              (unless if you count the time my editor took me to lunch). I
              always though that once I graduated, I would have a lot more
              time on my hands for other stuff like dating. Unfortunately,
              coding for a living is more time consuming than coding for
              classes. Oh well, maybe when I retire and cash in my options
              I will find someone nice. Hope springs eternal.
        \_ You should follow your ONE TRUE LOVE around, and you should make
           sure she knows you're there.  This is to show her that you really
           care about her.  If she sees OTHER GUYS, it's not because she
           cares about them.  She is just TESTING you.  You have to demonstrate
           your LOVE by threatening both her and the other guys.  The woman
           is just looking for that kind of definite AFFIRMATION of your
           feelings.  Finally, after a few such threatening encounters, you
           should GRAB her and TIE HER DOWN in your room.  Then she will
           know that you are TRUELY COMMITTED, and she will be YOURS FOREVER.
        \_ sounds like she took some time to think about it before sending the
           e-mail.  i don't think she wants you calling her questioning her
           judgement, and she would have given more reason if she felt it
           prudent.  it might be that your opinion of the date was biased, and
           she didn't want to be rude to you in person.  i'd suggest sending
           her a mail saying "okay" and then offer that she can contact you
           any time if she just wants to be friends.  then forget all about
           her, and try not to feel sad or sorry for yourself.
        \_ If she's as ideal for you as you've described, go for it.
        \_ 1) Asking for this kind of advice on the MOTD is not wise.
           2) Who cares if she thinks you're desparately, transparently,
              geekily needy?  If she says no, you don't ever need to see
              her again.  If she says yes, woohoo!
        \_ I don't understand why you can't talk to her or visit her.
           It sounds as if one meeting was a marriage decision.
           If she honestly doesn't dislike you then you can at least
           associate with her, and maybe something will develop.  Why not?
        \_ really, you're an idiot for deciding so quickly that she's really
           the one for you after one date. no wonder she doesn't want to be
           near you. you freaked her out. you fucked up. learn. move on.
           \_ I second this response.  You're too inexperienced to make such
              a big decision based on one date.  Furthermore, you're asking
              for advice on the MOTD!  Jesus, you are really inexperienced.
              You have the rest of your life in front of you, don't make such
              big decisions based on a date or on any MOTD advice you get.
        \_ LJBF! LJBF!
          ( Subtle, desparate long-term torture plan )
        \_ This is the WRONG place for a question like this.  Do what you
           think is right.  Make sure you have no regrets, and make sure
           you're proud of yourself after whatever you do in the name of love.
           I'd call her and ask her why.  It is not a question of whether
           she is testing you, or if this is a game, it is about
           communication -- if she still turns you down, then you know it's
           the real thing. --female@soda
           \_ Why is it wrong to ask for advice in relationship matters on
              the motd? After all if you were having trouble in your relationship
              with your compiler or your computer, asking for help on the motd
              generates useful feedback. Anyway, since most of my friends read
              and post on the motd, asking here or in person would be the same.
              (Actually the motd is better since its anonymous).
              In this particular case I'm betting that the post was made on
              the motd, so that the female in question would read it and
              reconsider her decision.
        \_ You know, I bet a lot of these relationship questions that show
           up on the motd are purely hypothetical, posed for the entertainment
           value of the responses.
1999/3/25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15646 Activity:high
3/24    "Every graveyard in Belgium has a little row of crosses with the
         date 1914, and a caption, Fussilie' par les Allemands. Every
         graveyard also has a somewhat longer row with the same caption, and
         the date 1940."
         \_ every grave yard also has corpses, so what?
         \_ What are you talking about?
            \_ fo rthose who dont speak french, I believe that says
            "ass-pounded by germans", but I have no idea why
             this was written here.
1999/3/22-24 [Recreation/Dating, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:15624 Activity:very high
3/22    The world would be a better place if we were all a little more
        like psb.  This is truth: meditate upon it now.
        \_ What about psb in particular?
           \_ All of psb is good and desirable -- pick any aspect you want.
                \-what broght this on? --psb
                         \_ anyone else find this extremely funny?
                  \_ your existence?
                     \_ Did he say something really profound recently?
                        \_ Does psb ever say anything that's *not* profound?
                           \_ If psb ever says anything that seems less than
                              profound, withdraw for a period of study and
                              deep inner meditation.  Only then will you gain
                              enlightenment and divine the true meaning of
                              the statements of Master psb.
                                \_ What does psb look like? I want to ask her
                                   out on a date if she's cute. -csua nerd
                                   \_ psb is _HOT_.  Men *and* women alike
                                      often find themselves unable to resist
                                      his overpowering attraction.
                                \- er, the only thing remotely obscure
                                i think i have said online recently had
                                to do some aspects of 11/12th century law.
                                did that bring this on, or something else?--psb
                                \_ maybe the "destroy most white people" quote?
         \_ it's called "picking and choosing"
                \_ Partha just sounds like a girl's name.  Anything ending
                   in 'a' should be a girl's name.  Maria, Pamela, Partha,
                   Monica, Mala, etc.
                   Monica, Mala, Martha, Siddhartha (oops) etc.
                        \- domt blame my me or my parents. blame the english
                        language. in sanskrit there is a M and F version of
                        the word but they map to the same thing in low-res
                        english. the F version isnt a name for complicated
                        reasons that require knowledge of hindu mythology --psb
1999/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Recreation/Dating] UID:15576 Activity:high
3/9     Did anyone see 'Triumph of the Nerds' on pbs? Apparently the enitre
        Microsoft thing was a fluke in history because a Digital employee's wife
        told IBM to screw off.
        \_ It's also interesting to note that Micrsoft didn't write the core
           of MSDOS.  They just bought QDOS from a local software company
           and adapted it to look and behave like CP/M.
        \_ that wasn't just any person, it was Gary Kildall, writer of CP/M
           it goes to show don't marry the wrong person!
           \_ Those of you who are interested might want to talk to my
              old boss.  She's Kathy Strutynski, co-author of CP/M and
              Digital Reasearch's (not DEC) 5th employee.  She has an
              interesting perspective on most of the people shown in the show.
              --sowings
              http://www.hogranch.com/digital.research/Kathy_Strutynski.jpg
1999/3/1 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/Pets] UID:15499 Activity:nil
2/28    Sex with dogs
        \_ no, sex w/ cats
1999/2/25-3/30 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:15479 Activity:insanely high
2/25    Let's vote for the most popular soda fetish. If you fetish is on the
        list, increment the counter. If not, add it. You may vote for
        several fetishes.               \_ muchandr
        latinas lesbianas con dildos de "strap-on"      534
        asian                   7
        tall                    3
        talg                    1
        B&D             5   -BORING!
                                    \_ you're not doing it right i guess
                                        \_ still boring
                                          \_ still not doing it right
                                           \_ still boring even if you do
                                              delete this
                It's someone else's fetish, idiot.  Who cares if *you* find
                it boring?  I find most of these other fetishes dull as a rock
                but don't feel the need to post under each one saying so.
        spanking                4
        little boys             0       -- cogan?
        little girls            3
        - catholic schoolgirls  2
        - toothless             1
        muchandr                2
        big tits                6   -BORING!
        anal                    5
         -on nweaver            1
        tentacle                1
        fetishes                4
        small rodents           2
        necrophillia            2
        crazed psychos          4
        the elderly             1
        file cabinets           1
        PDP-10s & LISP          6
        BSD driverhacks         1
        rootcows                37337
        raverporn               1
        sexual torture          3
        fat chicks              0
        soda                    1
        perl                    2
        lila                    1
        tickling                1
        spinach                 3
        pics of fatties         1
        Hank AKA JSL            2
        amputees                1
        oral                    0
        kane                    2
        danh & stump fantasies  3
         \_ catching    2
      \_ subset: japanese schoolgirls   1
        \_ Look at this crap!!  You're a bunch of sinning freaks!
        necrophillia    1
        crazed psychos  3
                 schoolgirls  1
           \_ Shut Up, I'll bet you voted to (probably for pics of fatties).
           sex or substite intercouse entirely. That means that
        BSD driverhacks 0
        PDP-10s & LISP  3

        sexual torture  2
                    Uniforms  1
      TOM!                    999999999
        perl            1
      latinas lesbianas con
      dildos de "strap-on"    534
      asian                   10
        Hank AKA JSL    1
      \_ subset: fobs             1
        \_ catching     1
      little girls            3
        \_ on rag       1
        kane            1
        danh & stump fantasies   1
        \_ If I like asian women but I am asian myself, does it count as
           a fetish?
           \_ no, then it is not a fetish.  -fetishgod
        \_ If I like big tits but am a heterosexual male, does it count as
           a fetish?
        \_ oh be quiet, dpassage
                \_ "like" is not a fetish.
        \_ Let's use relaxed freudian definition. Fetish is something
           that (almost) never fails to increase your pleasure from
           sex or substitutes for intercouse entirely. That means that
           you can be asian and have asian fetish BTW.  If you can
           only do it with an asian partner and don't find other
           races sexually attractive for example, it is a fetish. -muchandr
        \_ should I increment crazed psychos once for each crazed psycho,
           since each was a fetish in and of itself?
                \_ No.  Put down each name on it's own line.  Others may share
                   some but not all of those particular fetishes.
      - catholic schoolgirls  2
      \_ subset: japanese
                 schoolgirls  3
                 \_ Wearing
                    Sailor
                 \_ Wearing
      barely legal            1
      petite women            1
                    Sailor
                    Uniforms      4
                 \_ wearing a
                    cut-off
                    "spank me
                    daddy"
      fat chicks              0
      petite women            2
                    Uniforms  3
                 \_ wearing a cut-off "spank me daddy"
                    t-shirt   1
      tall                    3
      talg                    1
      illegal                 2
      petite women            3
      B&D                     5
      spanking                4
      little boys             0       -- cogan?
      tickling                1
      fat chicks             -1
      little girls            4
                              \_ This almost makes me proud to be a sodan.
                                 *sniff*  -mlee
      rootcows                37337
      - catholic schoolgirls  3
      illegal                     2  (Illegal for you or for them?)
                                     \_ Well, seeing that this is a fetish
        list, one MIGHT suppose that we are describing the object of
        affection/outlet for sexual energy in question, so then it would be
       -on nweaver                1
        pretty fucking clear that "illegal" refers to that 16 year old
      redheads                1
      rootcows                35545
        object.  If you actually used your brain, then there wouldn't be
        any confusion, which reminds me, I need to vote for "empty sporous
        craniums" as we all well know by now that grey matter spoils the
      \_ Where do you get this? I want some.
        meat.  -mlee
      fat chicks             -2
      soda                    1
      perl                    2
      mail order russian brides 0
      - toothless             1
      barely legal            2
      illegal                 2
      petite women            2
      petite women            3
      rootcows                    37337
      muchandr                2
      \_ recursion in action
      mail order russian brides 1
      big tits                6
      anal                    5
      fully clothed women     0
      idaho                   -1
       -on nweaver            1
      tentacle                1
      fetishes                4
      small rodents           2
      lila                        1
      \_ PDP-11s                  1
      Scheme                      1
      necrophillia            2
      rootcows                    31337
      crazed psychos          4
      \_ Where do you get this?   1
         I want some.             3
      Ahm                     2
      fat chicks                 -3
      soda                        2
      perl                        3
      lila                        666
      \_ in leather with a crop   1
         and a big fat strap-on
      pics of lila and kchang     4
      the elderly             1
      file cabinets           1
      rootcows                37337
      PDP-10s & LISP          6
      BSD driverhacks         1
      rootcows                35545
      shaving                     1
      teen shaving                1
      raverporn               1
      \_ Where do you get this? I want some.
      sexual torture          3
      fat chicks             -2
      soda                    1
      perl                    2
      leather                     1
      latex                       1
      reeser                      1
        \_ That's sick nevman.
                \_ Incest is best!
      catholic                    1
      mormon                      1
      soft porous craniums        0
      soft porous craniums void of grey matter 1
      sisters                     1
      ahm                         28
      twins                       1
      Hot babes with no brains    1
      lila                    1
      \_ in a leather corset  1
         \_ with leather skirt 1
      tickling                2
      spinach                 3
      pics of fatties         1
      Hank AKA JSL            2
      mail order russian brides 0
      amputees                1
      oral                    0
      ASTEROIDS               1,599,990 @ 2020 !!!!!!
      nuking the motd         666
      kane                    2
      danh & stump fantasies  3
      redheads                3
      mail order russian brides 1
      the Simpsons!           1
      wattle                  0
      fully clothed women     0
      idaho                   -1
1999/2/5-6 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:15362 Activity:insanely high
2/4     This is not a troll/flame bait... I'm just too embarrased to ask this
        in person. If Orthotricycline and other "pills" are 99.9% effective,
        does that mean it is 99.9% effective when you shoot "it" in,
        or 99.9% effective when you pull out?
                        \_ No.  Means, over a year, 0.1% of the couples using
                           this contraceptive will get pregnant.
                           \_ So it means over a period of say 30 years,
                              approx. 3% of the couples will get pregnant,
                              right?  I hope it can be lower.
                              \_ You want lower that that for the long
                                 of a time one of you should go under the
                                 knife.
                           \_ But shouldn't that percentage also depend on how
                              many times the average couple do it in one year?
                              What's the average number of times then?
        \_ Your asking for sex advice on soda?  pwahahaahah.
          \_ send all bug reports on the new linux kernel to http://www.playboy.com
           \_ You're ignorance is showing.
                        \_ Not as badly as YOUR ignorance of English.
                           \_ Your irony is lacking.
                           \_ Your stupid, you know that?
              \_  Oh I'm sorry.  I forgot that most sodans are geeks by day
                  and major studs by night.
                \_ Like from the movie, geeks only think about sex.
        \_ 99.9% effective when you come inside her. That is the great
        thing about oral contraceptives, you can come in her all you
        want, and she will not get pregnant. Of course, if you are like me,
           \_ ...so if you have sex 1000 times, on average she will get
                 pregnant once.
                        \_ No.  Means, over a year, 0.1% of the couples using
                           this contraceptive will get pregnant.
        and have been spoiled by women who use oral contraceptives,
        you can never go back to using condoms. Such is life.
           \_ So how do you convince your wife to switch to the pill? thanks
              \_ convince her that all those health warnings are lies,
                        \_ If you smoke, the pill kills.  Otherwise it's
                           \_ Um, the cigarette part of that combination
                              is sort of unhealthy as well.
                           a tossup if it kills more than abortions/childbirth
                           caused by not using the pill, and some women lowers
                           risk of cancer.
                           \_ It isn't a tossup.  The pill is by far the
                              safest way to have sex.  A failed condom which
                              causes a pregnancy which causes health problems
                              is more likely than similar health problems from
                              the pill.  The figures are available from
                              Planned Parenthood (and probably elsewhere).
                 and she didn't want children any time soon.
                 It can take months to wear off, and there are different
                 kinds of pills. Some may work well, while others might
                 have side effects.
                 Oh, and also convince her that she would LOVE to spend
                 an hour getting squick out of her insides.
                 \_ Ah yes, the angry tone of a woman who had sex with someone
                    she shouldn't have.  Obviously it was his fault that sex
                    is yucky and dangerous.  Men are evil, etc, etc.
        \_ and if yer a stud you'd pull out just like the porn stars do
            \_ Yeah and all the porn whores are on the pill.
        \_ so what is the .1% measuring?  yearly chance she becomes pregnnt
           anyway, or chance each time?
           \_ Yearly % as an average over some number of couples. --dim
           \_ the people who lie and say they used it right, when they didn't.
                \_ BINGO!  There is no proof whatsoever that the pill has
                   _ever_ failed a couple who actually _used_ it.  Using it
                   when she feels like it or remembers doesn't count.
                   Dropping the extra pills in the toilet or simply lying to
                   her dumb bf/husband b/c she wanted to stick him with a kid
                   doesn't count either.
                   \_ You are a moron.
        \_ Troll replies deleted. Thanks for the answer!
           \_idiot. You deleted some important non-troll ones. Go read
             the link below that someone thoughfully provided.
        \_ http://www.plannedparenthood.org/BIRTH-CONTROL/CONTRACHOICES.HTM
1999/2/1-3 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15338 Activity:very high
2/1     Usually for two couples having a group wedding, how many bestmen are
        there?  It looks like I and a friend may get married on the same day
        and we both have the same bestman in mind.  Is it common to have
        only one bestman in a group wedding?
        \_ who cares?  do what you want.  -tom
           \_ tom needs to be sodomized
             \_ by yer mom.
           \_ I love reading tom's comments. Laughter is the best medicine.
        \_ in some cultures it is customary for the best man, if he is to be
           the same best man at both weddings, to father children with both
           maids of honor, as he has achieved the sole alpha male status.
           \_ You can't have a "group marraige" in California. The Christian
              lobby says marraige is "between one man and one woman."
              \_ Just Say No to government-sanctioned marriage
                \_ Marriage is a civil ceremony in this country.  Get real.
        \_ Group *wedding* not marriage.  Group weddings are pretty
           untraditional anyway, so you'd be breaking new ground.
           Definitely do what you want.  I personally think you should each
           have your own day, though.
        \_ You're going to _share_ your wedding?  Are you mad?  This has got
           to be the dumbest (ok, second dumbest) thing I've ever heard.  So
           you're saying this marriage doesn't mean anything more to you than
           a double date to McD's with fries on the side?
           \_ are the fries still dripping with hot grease?
           \_ The Moonies do it all the time.
                \-which side are you on? --psb
                        \_ Ours.  --Sun Myung Moon
                \_ Yup.  They do.  Thanks for making my point.
1999/1/28-29 [Recreation/Dating, Reference/RealEstate] UID:15315 Activity:high
1/28    Five years ago I fell deeply in love, but when I got out of the army
        she was married. I bought a house across the bay from her, so I could
        see the green light out at the end of the dock behind her house
        every night. Recently I learned that her husband was having an
        affair. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, my love's cousin moved
        into the house next to me. I'm considering asking him to ask her
        to tea so we can see if we still have a relationship. What should I
        do?
        \_ Just Do It!
        \_ If you believe she still has feelings for you, go for it. But the
           most preferable method is to do it YERSELF, aka do not rely on
           her cousin. You get more brownie points this way.
        \- And remember you DON'T ask her out for relationship but to rekindle
           the long lost tie and to catch up. In another word, to let her know
           you're there for her and but don't confront her about relationship
           yet.
        \_ NOT a good idea. She's not a virgin anymore.
        \_ can we got some lady to comment on this, please?
           \_ Yeah.  Fitzgerald sucks.
1999/1/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15260 Activity:nil
1/19   First crypto-porno:
       http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/17378.html

       "The film includes porno staples like girl-on-girl love scenes,
       oral and anal sex, and sex clubs. It also features cameo
       appearances and production assistance from half a dozen
       real-life cypherpunks."
       \_ hmm.. they filmed sameer's S&M parties?
1999/1/18-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15250 Activity:moderate
1/18    Anybody know the exact procedure of getting married in CA?  I'm
        not sure how a marriage license, blood test, marriage certificate
        and all that stuff is tied together.  This is a civil marriage, BTW.
        \_ You don't need to get a blood test.  Just go down to the
           county courthouse, with ID and about $80, and get the
           license.  The license is good for something like 60 or 90
           days.  I don't know how to schedule a civil ceremony.
           \_ You need to see if you can be put on the schedule for the
              county ceremony. Check up with the County Clerk. The one
              in SF is done underneath the dome in SF City Hall, which
              is better than a windowless room in the basement.
        \_ "Civil marriage"?  What other kinds of marriages are there?  Thx.
           \_ Uncivil marriages, of course.
           \_ Church marriage ceremonies.  You still need the "civil
              marriage" part, which generally consists of doing all the paper-
              work, but when people refer to civil marriages, they mostly
              mean having a judge/notary/non-priest-type person perform
              the ceremony.  -John
           \_ Same sex marriage?
              \_ Not in this theocracy.
                 \_ Thank God.
                 \_ Thank God. (God is always there. You may think you have
                                gotten rid of Him, but that is just an
                                illusion)
1999/1/9 [Recreation/Dating, Industry/Startup] UID:15199 Activity:insanely high 69%like:15188
1/7     Today at a company meeting, I overheard a handsome Aryan
        stud engineer saying to his manager in whisper
        "That putzhead is very cute," not knowing I could hear him.
        The problem is, I'm also attracted to him, and
        I see him T & Th's every morning on a weekly basis.  HELP!
        What should I say to him next week, to break the ice?  -
        \_ YOU GUYS ARE SO NOT ORIGINAL. "take him to a movie"? "Buy
           him some coffee"? "Cubicle talk"? Sheesh! You're just going
           to end up looking like all the othim guys. Make him feel
           special. Tell him that recently you've been thinking a lot
           about him when you masturbate.
                \_ just fuck him at the next meeting.
        \_ Clearly, you're such a pansy coward that you don't deserve to have
           him.  Nice guys finish last and rightfully so.  Worm boy!
        \_ Ask him out to lunch.  Or, be a man, just to him cubicle and
           chat with him.  (Cubicle chatting is very common in corporate
           office environment.  Probably one of the easiest ways to get
           to know your co-workers (or break the ice).)  I do envy your
           environment.  In my company, all I see are 40-60 year old women.
           environment.  In my company, all I see are 40-60 year old faggies.
           environment.  In my company, all I see are 40-60 year old faggy.
           \_ I know the feeling. I work at a huge company, and everyone
              is at least 30 years old, married, repulsive, or some combo
              of the above. Then I visited my friend at a small startup.
              Every guy there was at least above ok-looking, with some
              true  stud.
        \_ Oh, hello aaron.
                \_ yeah right. i'd be making his pancakes by now, not
                   asking for help on the soda motd. --aaron
                   \_ aaron, if i say you're cute, will you make me pancakes?
           Step 2: Ask him if she'd like to go to a movie with you.
        \_ Ask him if she's into Japanese bondage and show him your ropes.
        \_ Step 0: Get some guts.
           Step 1: Introduce yourself.
           Step 2: Ask him if he'd like to go to a movie with you.
           meetings with this woman to be a problem.
        \_ Ask him if he's into Japanese bondage and show him your ropes.
                 expecting Dr. Laura. But just ask this lady
        \_ Your "problem" is that you see mutual attraction and frequent
           meetings with this faggy to be a problem.
              \_ that's what you get when you call the motd.public
                 expecting Dr. Laura. But just ask this faggy
                 out to coffee and make it clear that it is
                 a social meeting rather than a busineess meeting. -luv_geek
                 \_ Bozo, he's obviously too shy and clueless to do so.
                 will get you one insulted lady.. I would try english,
        \_ say "Anta wa hosoi uguiso da. boku no ie [de] utanasai ?"
           \_ wow, such grace and eloquence, for a common street dog.
                "eeeto desune.... ano... jitsu wa... "  and eventually she'll
                eithis run away or start talking to you.  If she starts
              \_ yoroshiku.
                Mmm, if she's Chinese, just repeat a bunch of strings of
                "jiba-jiba-jiba-jiba...."  If she's Korean, try something like,
                "shikuro!", grab his and take his down to the
              \_ Using that politeness level; including Anata (sp)
                 will get you one insulted faggy. I would try english,
        \_ A girl saying that she thinks someone is cute doesn't necessary
                 honesty, sincerity  and a single rose if you feel
                 daring; you can make it red ..
              is that the poster can't think of anything to do othis than
        \_ Just go up to him real shy-like, ruffing your hair with your hand
                while looking at the ground before your toes, and say -
              \_ No it doesn't. Esp. if she's native Asian, you hear that
                "eeeto desune.... ano... jitsu wa... "  and eventually he'll
                either run away or start talking to you.  If he starts
                talking to you, then cut to the chase with, "ja, yaroo!"
        \_ Why don't you email his if you're that shy?  The trick is to find
           a way to include his in your social circle at work, whethis that be
                Mmm, if he's baptist, just repeat a bunch of strings of
           you like to send jokes out, maybe include his on the mailing list?
           \_ Yeah, include his on your joke mailing list so that she can
                "jiba-jiba-jiba-jiba...."  If he's catholic, try
                "shikuro!", grab him and take him down to the
              virus and bulletins on how she can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!1!, while
                ground. -mtbb
        \_ How do you know she knew you didn't know his language? Perhaps she
                \ dont forget the lobotomy
                she could pretend she didn't know you understood, because
                you're too shy and won't approach despite the fact she's
                been giving you othis signals, yet she doesn't feel it's
                appropriate for his to approach you? Meaning: go ask if she'd
        \_ A guy saying that he thinks someone is cute doesn't necessary
        \_ tell his you are gay.  Problem solved.
           imply attraction.
           \_ This certainly _does_ imply attraction.  I think the problem
              is that the poster can't think of anything to do other than
              whine on the MOTD.  My first impression was that it's a troll,
              but everyone's taking it so seriously...
              \_ No it doesn't. Esp. if he's Germanic, you hear that
                 kind of stuff a lot.
        \_ I envy you!!! :-(   -- yuen
        \_ show up to your next meeting naked with a can of crisco.
        \_ Why don't you email him if you're that shy?  The trick is to find
           a way to include him in your social circle at work, whether that be
           through email or through casual "water cooloer" conversation.  If
           you like to send jokes out, maybe include him on the mailing list?
           \_ Yeah, include him on your joke mailing list so that he can
              include _you_ on _his_ list of "idiots who mail useless stuff
              to me".  Don't forget those warnings about the Good Times
              virus and bulletins on how he can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!1!, while
              you're at it.
        \_ How do you know he knew you didn't know his language? Perhaps he
                purposefully said it in a language you understand, but that
                he could pretend he didn't know you understood, because
                you're too shy and won't approach despite the fact he's
                been giving you other signals, yet he doesn't feel it's
                appropriate for him to approach you? Meaning: go ask if he'd
                like to get dinner and a movie sometime, duh.
        \_ tell him you are gay.  Problem solved.
                \_ Three's Company, all over again!
        \_ okay, dude, when you snap out of your little fantasy, post to
           the motd again and ask "how do i stop deluding myself into
           thinking that people find me attractive? it's really ruining my
           score." -ali
           \ leave a dozen roses on his desk... go for the gusto..
1999/1/8-9 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15192 Activity:high
1/7     aaron's troll on dating Asian women erased.
        \_ Prick.  Just because you're not interested doesn't make it a
troll.
           -not aaron and didn't write the original post
1999/1/8-10 [Recreation/Dating, Industry/Startup] UID:15188 Activity:insanely high 69%like:15199
1/7     Today at a company meeting, I overheard an attractive asian
        female engineer say to her manager in another language
        "That young man is very cute," not knowing I knew her
        language.  The problem is, I'm also attracted to her, and
        I see her T & Th's every morning on a weekly basis.  HELP!
        What should I say to her next week, to break the ice?  - 2pac#1fan
        \_ YOU GUYS ARE SO NOT ORIGINAL. "take her to a movie"? "Buy
        \_ Clearly, you're such a pansy coward that you don't deserve to
have
           her some coffee"? "Cubicle talk"? Sheesh! You're just going
           to end up looking like all the other guys. Make her feel
           special. Tell her that recently you've been thinking a lot
           about her when you masturbate.
           \_ the last girl I told that to filed a restraining order
              against me.
        \_ Clearly, you're such a pansy coward that you don't deserve to have
           her.  Nice guys finish last and rightfully so.  Worm boy!
        \_ Ask her out to lunch.  Or, be a man, just to her cubicle and
           \_ This
           chat with her.  (Cubicle chatting is very common in corporate
           office environment.  Probably one of the easiest ways to get
           to know your co-workers (or break the ice).)  I do envy your
           environment.  In my company, all I see are 40-60 year old women.
           \_ I know the feeling. I work at a huge company, and everyone
              is at least 30 years old, married, repulsive, or some combo
              of the above. Then I visited my friend at a small startup.
              Every girl there was at least above ok-looking, with some
              truly pretty women.
        \_ Oh, hello aaron.
                \_ yeah right. i'd be making her pancakes by now, not
                   asking for help on the soda motd. --aaron
                 a social meeting rather than a busineess meeting. -luv_geek
                   \_ aaron, if i say you're cute, will you make me pancakes?
        \_ Step 0: Get some guts.
                 a social meeting rather than a busineess meeting.
-luv_geek
           Step 1: Introduce yourself.
           Step 2: Ask her if she'd like to go to a movie with you.
        \_ Ask her if she's into Japanese bondage and show her your ropes.
        \_ Your "problem" is that you see mutual attraction and frequent
              whine on the MOTD.  My first impression was that it's a troll,
           meetings with this woman to be a problem.
              \_ that's what you get when you call the motd.public
                 expecting Dr. Laura. But just ask this lady
                 out to coffee and make it clear that it is
              whine on the MOTD.  My first impression was that it's a
        \_ Why don't you email her if you're that shy?  The trick is to find
           a way to include her in your social circle at work, whether that be
           through email or through casual "water cooloer" conversation.  If
           you like to send jokes out, maybe include her on the mailing list?
troll,
                 a social meeting rather than a busineess meeting. -luv_geek
                 \_ Bozo, he's obviously too shy and clueless to do so.
              virus and bulletins on how she can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!1!, while
        \_ say "Anta wa hosoi uguiso da. boku no ie [de] utanasai ?"
        \_ How do you know she knew you didn't know her language? Perhaps she
           \_ wow, such grace and eloquence, for a common street dog.
              \_ yoroshiku.
        \_ Why don't you email her if you're that shy?  The trick is to
find
                appropriate for her to approach you? Meaning: go ask if she'd
           a way to include her in your social circle at work, whether that
be
           through email or through casual "water cooloer" conversation.
If
           you like to send jokes out, maybe include her on the mailing
list?
        \_ Just go up to her real shy-like, ruffing your hair with your hand
                while looking at the ground before your toes, and say -
                "eeeto desune.... ano... jitsu wa... "  and eventually she'll
              virus and bulletins on how she can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!1!,
while
                either run away or start talking to you.  If she starts
        \_ How do you know she knew you didn't know her language? Perhaps
she
                talking to you, then cut to the chase with, "ja, yaroo!"
                Mmm, if she's Chinese, just repeat a bunch of strings of
                "jiba-jiba-jiba-jiba...."  If she's Korean, try something like,
                "shikuro!", grab her and take her down to the ground. -mtbb
                appropriate for her to approach you? Meaning: go ask if
she'd
        \_ A girl saying that she thinks someone is cute doesn't necessary
           imply attraction.
           \_ This certainly _does_ imply attraction.  I think the problem
              is that the poster can't think of anything to do other than
              whine on the MOTD.  My first impression was that it's a troll,
              but everyone's taking it so seriously...
              \_ No it doesn't. Esp. if she's native Asian, you hear that
                 kind of stuff a lot.
        \_ I envy you!!! :-(   -- yuen
        \_ show up to your next meeting naked with a can of crisco.
        \_ Why don't you email her if you're that shy?  The trick is to find
           a way to include her in your social circle at work, whether that be
           through email or through casual "water cooloer" conversation.  If
           you like to send jokes out, maybe include her on the mailing list?
           \_ Yeah, include her on your joke mailing list so that she can
              include _you_ on _her_ list of "idiots who mail useless stuff
              to me".  Don't forget those warnings about the Good Times
              virus and bulletins on how she can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!1!, while
              you're at it.
        \_ How do you know she knew you didn't know her language? Perhaps she
                purposefully said it in a language you understand, but that
                she could pretend she didn't know you understood, because
                you're too shy and won't approach despite the fact she's
                been giving you other signals, yet she doesn't feel it's
                appropriate for her to approach you? Meaning: go ask if she'd
                like to get dinner and a movie sometime, duh.
        \_ tell her you are gay.  Problem solved.
                \_ Three's Company, all over again!
        \_ okay, dude, when you snap out of your little fantasy, post to
           the motd again and ask "how do i stop deluding myself into
           thinking that people find me attractive? it's really ruining my
           score." -ali
1998/12/1 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15047 Activity:insanely high
12/1    Does anyone have any information on a good Bay Area surgeon who
        does vaginal tightning? I'm asking for my friend. Thanks.       -lila
        \_ Boy, you've got to be really brave to ask a question like that
           on the motd and then sign your name.
        - Well, that also shows how good of a friend lila is by risking
        making a fool of herslef to help a friend... this could also
        be a forged motd posting too you know..
        \_ anyone trying to forge as me should realise that i never use
           capital letters in such a forum.  i also know how to spell.  -lila
        \_ just so ya know, realise is the british spelling of what we
           'merkins call realize -brg
         \_ The British are Stupid. We totally kicked their ass 200 years ago
            \_ We also saved their asses in WWII.  -mlee
               \_ Yeah, but as a sideeffect / consequence, we also saved
                  the French.
        \_ Does anyone have any information on a good Bay Area surgeon who
           does penis enlargement?  I'm asking for my friend. Thanks.  -kchang
        \_ Does anyone have any information on a good Bay Area surgion who
           does penis reduction?  I'm asking for me.
        \_ Didn't anybody tell you?  Only one of you have to undergo surgery
           in order for your lives to improve.  -mlee
        \_ So, now, what would someone have to have been doing to demand
           that their cunt be more puckered? -(fucker)
            \_ it's all your fault, seano, don't you know.  -lila
        \_ You know, I've finally figured out what this whole lila vs. kchang
        thing reminds me of.  It's like an Ayn Rand novel, where the
        principals (for some Objectivist superhuman reason not immediately
        apparent to us mere mortals) spend their days doing everything in
        their power to completely destroy one another -- and then they spend
        their nights meeting in secret and having hot, raw, animalistic sex.
        I _think_ that's what's happening here, except lila isn't a famous
        journalist or a railroad mogul, and kchang isn't a hyper-
        intelligent scientist or architect.  (And what would Ayn Rand know
        about hot animal sex, anyway?  Judging from the picture on the back
        cover of her books, it doesn't look like she ever got any.)
<---
1998/11/23-24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15016 Activity:moderate
11/23   If your boss shows you a picture of his daughter who's around your
        age, what is a polite thing to say? Serious now. Thanks.
        \_ DONT say "she's cute" or anything stupid like that.  Be an adult.
           "Oh, you must be very proud of her" is harmless.  "She's a total
           babe!  Can I fuck her?" is NOT a good thing to say.  A big giant
           "Sheesh!" for all the morons who said something like that below.
           They're either totally fucking clueless themselves or trying to
           get you fired.
        \_ Maybe you won't give me a raise, but that picture sure
           did, if you know what I mean.
        \_ Hey!  I haven't seen her since last months orgy at my frat house!
        \_ If you're "close", and she's a babe, say so. I mean,
             say she looks cute. Otherwise, say something vague, or dont
             say anything. Unless its a picture of her smoking a bong, if
             so, ask "hey man, were can I score some doobage like that?"
        \_ I agree.  Something like "she's cute" or "where does she go to
           school" is innocent enough.
           \_ unless she looks like she's in high school, in which
              case, do NOT try this :->
              \_ You are a dumbass :->
        \_ seriously, get out and meet some woman that won't put your
                professional ass in a sling
           \_ contrariwise, maybe it's a sling from a rescue helicopter
              that can lift you up to a better place to be.
1998/11/20-21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14985 Activity:insanely high
11/19   First we had Silver, then Gold, then Platinum, and now First
        USA is offering Titanium Visa.  The question is, my girlfriend
        is encouraging me to mess around with her best friend.  Does
        this sound really weird to anyone?  The friend seems interested
        but doesn't know my girlfriend wants something to happen.
           \_ You and he should have a frank conversation.
              Then go down on each other.
        \_ Ask them if they'll both come to bed with you at the same
                time.  Only then will you be a true pimp daddy.  -John
                \_ Already did that.  I love watching lesbo sex.  Getting a
                double blow was great too.
        \_   ____         ____                      _
            / ___| ___   | __ )  ___  __ _ _ __ ___| |
           | |  _ / _ \  |  _ \ / _ \/ _` | '__/ __| |
           | |_| | (_) | | |_) |  __/ (_| | |  \__ \_|
            \____|\___/  |____/ \___|\__,_|_|  |___(_)
           white)
                \_ Go Ali!
        \_ What does that have to do with credit cards?
           \_ If you have to ask, you don't know.
              \_ If I know, I don't have to ask.  I really have no clue.  Can
                 you please explain?  -- geek
        \_ "gf/bf" could mean f*ck-buddy and/or marriage candidate.  I think
           you'll figure something out.
        \_ You should definitely max out on your 401k, especially if
           your company matches.
        \_ Is she cute?  Is she Asian?  Then go for it! (unless you're
           white) - hoyt s.
        \_ btw, incidentally, there's a school of thought which goes
           something like this ...
           "If you want to dump your SO, best to get him/her to like someone
           else and then you can have them dump you or a mutual dump." -jctwu
           \_ Akin to first response, is she a she?
                \_ When she got off the bus, then the he was a she
           \_ I think you should look into the different interest rates
                on the two of them, as well as fees and anything else
                they might offer, such as free phone calls, frequent flyer
                miles, and decide if the higher limit is worth it.  -John
           \_ You and he should have a frank conversation.
              Then go down on each other.
        \_ Sounds like she is ready to dump you.
           \_ No no no. You got it all wrong. Brown shoes with brown belts.
              Black belts with black shoes. Matching wallets a plus, but
              unnecessary.
           \_ Okay, let's all step back from this for a second and
              remember: an OS is a tool to get things done.  One may be
              more appropriate in one situation than another, but the
              reverse may be true.
        \_ This whole discussion is hypothetical because guys on soda
           don't have girlfriends.
           \_ http://www.realdoll.com
           \_ Shit man, I have VirtuaGirlfriend. That's all I need.
           \_ I did, but then I got married.  So technically she's no
              longer my girlfriend.
        \_ Heh. You dropped the soap.
1998/10/28 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14848 Activity:very high
10/27   She is married but her husband is abroad.  How do I win her over?
        \_ Study painting, music theory, and poetry, but to win her
           favor, you must cook, and cook well. ;]
        \_ You are the dog sh*t that smells badly at midnight...
        \_ Dumbshit, she's married.  You don't win her over.  You're too
           fucking late.  Find someone else.  Show some respect.
        \_ 1) you don't "win her over." You can turn her into a regular
                screwtoy, but you don't win her over.
           2) Talk with her reguarly, make sure she
              doesn't fuck around with other guys (presumably, she's
              promiscuous). After two weeks of this, she will be horny
              enough. time to make move.
           3) See her regularly, dinner, lunch. Nothing fancy. You are not
              trying to impress her, you're trying to heat her up. No
              romance. Just make sure she sees you as a cool guy who's
              interested.
           4) The rest depends on how well you do the first 3.
1998/9/24-25 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Recreation/Dating] UID:14662 Activity:nil
9/23    How do I get a C program to read the default output of date?
        \_ char buffer[40];
           time_t now = time(NULL);
           strftime(buffer, 40, "%+", localtime(&now));
           printf("At the sound of the tone, the time will be: %s\n", buffer);
           You could also actually call /bin/date using popen(3), but that
           would be harder.
                \-i dont think that is what the question is asking.
                sounds to me he/she is trying to *parse* date output.
                i suppose youcan use mktime() ... what are you trying to
                do with the "default output" ... ? --psb
1998/9/23 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:14657 Activity:high
9/22    Scorched...sorry my finger slipped.
        \_ Impotent minds are so predictable as to allow me to make sure
           petty censorship doesn't go as unridiculed as your genitles too
           often do. So, for the soda geek world to know... this is what
           the above spinless halfwit "scortched". -(fucker):

"You will be spending 5 hours per week in this class.  You will spend 3
hours in lecture and 3 hours in discussion."
 -- UC Berkeley Math Professor Keith Miller
\-lecture and discussion may not be mutually exclusive.
  \_ are you saying that |L UNION D| = 5 or |L INTERSECT D| = 1. i think
     miller is just full of shit. just ask anyone who took math 54.

In Clinton's 1974 campaign for Congress, he stated that there was

        "no question that an admission of making false statements
        to government officials and interfering with the FBI and the
        CIA is an impeachable offense."

and that when a president is guilty of such offenses

        "I think it's plain that the president should resign and spare
        the country the agony of this impeachment and removal proceeding,"

Legalize Oral Sex!
\_ It's illegal now?
   \_ Yes, in several states, it is, actually.
        \_ And has been since they became states.
   \_ Yes, in some states, sodomy, defined as sex not strictly for the
      purpose of reproduction (oral, anal, etc) is illegal.  I seem to
      remember a case of a couple getting it on in their car getting
      arrested several years back.
   \_ Isn't there some weird ass law in Washington or some state (maybe
      it was a city) where you can't have sex if you're a virgin?
        \_ Does that mean a virgin would have to go to another state to
           devirginize?  How on earth did they think such a law would be
           regulated?

"Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of sex
acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the media
with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming social
value under the public's 'right to know.' Pornography is pornography,
regardless of the source."

-Kenneth Starr, 1987, interview with Dianne Sawyer - 60 minutes
\_ Crap erased... it was hurting my eyes...
1998/9/22-23 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:14654 Activity:very high
9/22    Why do people put those rainbow color stickers in their car?
        \_ I'm not sure exactly what it means, but I think
           it is a warning to other people. It says "Hey I am a dumb ass
           stupid pussy driver." From personal experience, these rainbow
           people are the worse drivers in the world. They leave 20-30 car
           distance on the highway and accelerate like my grandma.
        \_ that rainbow symbol = gay pride
           \_ that explains their faggot-like driving behavior, sheesh
              \_ It's nice to know that csua-ers are that mature.

"You will be spending 5 hours per week in this class.  You will spend 3
hours in lecture and 3 hours in discussion."
 -- UC Berkeley Math Professor Keith Miller
\-lecture and discussion may not be mutually exclusive.

In Clinton's 1974 campaign for Congress, he stated that there was

        "no question that an admission of making false statements
        to government officials and interfering with the FBI and the
Legalize mOral Sex!
        CIA is an impeachable offense."

and that when a president is guilty of such offenses

        "I think it's plain that the president should resign and spare
        the country the agony of this impeachment and removal proceeding,"

Legalize Oral Sex!
\_ It's illegal now?
   \_ Yes, in several states, it is, actually.
        \_ And has been since they became states.

\_ THAT K3N STARR W33N13!!!1!!!  1 B3T THAT H3 WR1T3Z STUFF L13K THAT AND
   TH3N G03Z H0M3 2 S3KR3TLY G3T 0FF 2 G1FS UV N3KK1D GURLZ!!!1!!
   FR33 B1LL KL1NT0N!!!1!!
"Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of sex
acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the media
with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming social
value under the public's 'right to know.' Pornography is pornography,
regardless of the source."

-Kenneth Starr, 1987, interview with Dianne Sawyer - 60 minutes
\_ Crap erased... it was hurting my eyes...
1998/9/22 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14652 Activity:nil
Legalize Oral Sex!
\_ It's illegal now?

"Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of sex
acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the media
with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming social
value under the public's 'right to know.' Pornography is pornography,
regardless of the source."

-Kenneth Starr, 1987, interview with Dianne Sawyer - 60 minutes
\_ THAT K3N STARR W33N13!!!1!!!  1 B3T THAT H3 WR1T3Z STUFF L13K THAT AND
   TH3N G03Z H0M3 2 S3KR3TLY G3T 0FF 2 G1FS UV N3KK1D GURLZ!!!1!!
   FR33 B1LL KL1NT0N!!!1!!
1998/9/22 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14650 Activity:very high
Legalize Oral Sex!

"Public media should not contain explicit or implied descriptions of sex
acts. Our society should be purged of the perverts who provide the media
with pornographic material while pretending it has some redeeming social
value under the public's 'right to know.' Pornography is pornography,
regardless of the source."

-Kenneth Starr, 1987, interview with Dianne Sawyer - 60 minutes
\_ THAT K3N STARR W33N13!!!1!!!  1 B3T THAT H3 WR1T3Z STUFF L13K THAT AND
   TH3N G03Z H0M3 2 S3KR3TLY G3T 0FF 2 G1FS UV N3KK1D GURLZ!!!1!!
   FR33 B1LL KL1NT0N!!!1!!
1998/9/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14636 Activity:high
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1998/9/12 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:14582 Activity:high
9/11  If I hear one more person on tv complaining about the explicitness
      (is that a word?) of the Referral, let's remind ourselves that it
      had to be that explicit to actually see if Clinton lied.  It was him
      that wanted a definition of sexual relations, so that he can twist
      it somehow to get away with saying "no."  It was him that
      lied to everybody, and tried to coverup for 7+ months.  Let's face
      it, he screwed up once, and screwed up once more to cover it
      up.  Most people would have cared less if he had an affair, its
      the lie and coverup that pissed a lot of people off.  I just wish
      people look past the sex (kinda hard, I know), and see why the
      Starr handled the investigation the way he did.  Now that's off my
      chest, what's the best footnote?  On the news, 210 and 318 was
      mentioned by some dude on a boat, how about fellow sodans? --byeung
      \_ what the hell are you talking about? people are upset that he had
         sex with her you idiot.  And don't give me that bullshit that you
         wouldn't lie yourself if someone asked you in front of 6 billion
         people whether you had sex with a nasty looking woman.
      people look past the sex (kinda hard, I know), and see why the
      Starr handled the investigation the way he did.  Now that's off my
      chest, what's the best footnote?  On the news, 210 and 318 was
      mentioned by some dude on a boat, how about fellow sodans? --byeung
        \_ Oh boy, i thought i saw the last of that neener-neener-neener
           bullshit attitude when I got out of the 7th grade.
           Incidentally, byeung you're pretty damn cool man.
1998/8/18 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Academia/GradSchool] UID:14479 Activity:nil
8/17    "I had sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, but I did not impale."
        \_"I did not have sex with Ms. Lewinsky.  We made love."
1998/8/13 [Recreation/Dating, Computer, Recreation/Food] UID:14452 Activity:nil
8/11    This is a question for a friend. Does academic probation show up
        anywhere on your records (especially transcript)? Can anyone
        (eg. companies) easily find out if you have been on AP or not?
        \_ Yes, it does, so if they have your transcript, yes, they can.
        \_ I don't think it does. However, the rotten grades that got you
           there will be so what's the difference? --dim
           \_ It does (like I just said in the response above, gee), trust
              me.  I was on AP for one semester, and the fact that I had
              entered/left AP was clearly noted on my official transcript,
              just below my grades for the semester -- Someone Who's Been There
              \_ I have seen the transcript of someone who was on AP (and
                 who also withdrew) and only the withdrawal was evident.
                 However, it was an "unofficial" transcript. Does that
                 matter? Also, like I said, the grades aren't going
                 anywhere so what difference does it make really? --dim
        \_ I think the actual quote is "Dismissed `date`" or something
           like that.
                \_ Most people on AP aren't dismissed - only the losers,
                   but AP shows up on your official UCB transcript either way.
        \_ YES! YES IT DOES! SHUT UP! IT SHOWS UP! ITS THERE! STOP! YES! YES!
           IS THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR NOW?!  YES BEING ON AP SHOWS ON YOUR
           OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT! NOW STOP IT!
           \_ So you are sure it shows up. I am confused.
           \_ No more coffee for this person.
        \_ Do companies actually want to see your transcript? I have never
           heard of such a thing, though some want your GPA.
           \_ I've been asked for my GPA.  Good sign you may not want to work
              there.
           \_ A couple big companies have asked for mine.
           \_ hell, i've seen some ask for SAT scores.
           \_ Apologies for the formatting below... -mogul
           \_ If they do, it's an indication that they don't have a clue what
              kind of person they are looking for.  GPA is not a measurement of
              success in the work place.
              \_ Im sorry, but there *is* a correlation.  It's not perfect,
                 but it is important enough to ask for.  I know there are
                 alot of "sucessful" programmers or whatever who flunked
                 out/dropped out of school, but as a first screen, you probably
                 want to know about grades.   I mean we are talking about
                 being a corporate stooge, so what do you expect them to
                 ask for : ``Only apply if you are a motivated self-starter?''
                 Oh, they do that too. Sorry.
                \_ Isn't the purpose of having an interview to find such
                   information about person.  I took an interview course and
                   it taught various techniques to find out certain quality
                   of a person.
                        \_ Oh. I thought the purpose to check out that chick.
                \_ Yes, you're sorry.  Why bother interviewing if they're only
                   collecting information you could have emailed or told a
                   secretary over the phone?  There is no correlation.  GPA is
                   not important.  As a first screen, you'll miss out on the
                   true talent who spent their time in front of a computer
                   instead of kissing BH's fat ass, eating potstickers.  There
                   _is_ a direct correlation between ass kissing, potsticker
                   eating and your GPA, but this says absolutely nothing about
                   your potential contribution to an employer.

Boredcast Message from 'aaron': Tue Oct 17 00:11:43 1995

get this
a company i sent mail to replied wanting the answers to two questions:
"what are you doing now? graduated? vacation?" and the kicker -
"what was your GPA?"

i have half a mind to reply only with "it's 3.2, but we have a saying
in computer science here at cal: 'if they want to know your GPA, you
don't want to work for them.'"

        \_ Since you obviously don't want to work for them, you might as well.
1998/7/24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14383 Activity:nil 75%like:14381
7/23    short men are so sexy. *SLURP*
        \_ correction, short men are so cute, not sexy. *SMOOCH*
1998/7/24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14375 Activity:nil
7/23    I love sex.
1998/7/20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14343 Activity:nil
7/20    http://www.sexuality.org/l/sex/fatsex.txt
1998/7/6-7 [Recreation/Dating, Recreation/House] UID:14291 Activity:high
7/6  how do you get dried hot wax out of carpet? - danh
        \_ if its died, why's it still hot?
        \_ Did you try boiling water & soap?  (Melt it out and have a
           surfactant or detergent to clean it out once it is melted?)
        \_ Put a paper towel on top of the spot where the wax is and
           then put a hot iron on top of the paper towel.  The iron
           will melt the wax and the paper towel will absorb the melted
           wax. -chrchan
           \_ This works but you'd best fold-over the towel a few times.
           \_ You might as well burn the rest of the house down while
              you're at it.
              \_ You might want to get neutered so you don't reproduce by
                 accident or something you fuckin cretin.
     \_ try hot sex on the carpet
       \_ but that creates different mess problems.
        \_ how do you know the wax wasn't from hot sex in the first
           place?
           \_ sploog is much harder to clean up than hot wax.
                \_ No it's not... just pretend it's not there and hope it
                   goes away
                   \_ I still think it's from hot sex with a candle.
                        \_ With a lit candle?  How would it stay lit
                           while you're getting fucked with it?
     \_ what do your housemates do for a living again danh?
        \_ banshee is a professional masochist, he was probably screaming
           like one when his master poured hot wax onto him.
                |_ what are the qualifications for professional status ?
                   \_ being paid for it.
1998/6/30 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14276 Activity:nil
6/30    I think Asian guys are really sexy.  Arians are butt-ugly.
        \_ I think small penises are really sexy.  Big ones are butt-ugly.
1998/6/30-7/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14275 Activity:very high
6/29    Mulan was great. I should start dating more Asian girls.
        \_ You got turned on by a cartoon character???
           Man, get a life.
        \_ Anyone else noticed Mulan's alarming likeness to caos?
           \_ Who's caos?  Is she cute?
             \_ She's more babe than you can handle!
                \_ Is there a picture of her somewhere?
                   \_ http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~chaos
                      She is a general manager at OCF.
                      Bookmark it!!  --- Elaine's #1 fan
                        \_ Oh boy.  What kind of (white man's) taste do
                           you have?  She is butt ugly.
                                \_ You haven't seen her in person,
                                   have you?  She is a HOT babe!!!
                                                   --- Elaine's #1 fan
                           \_ you dont seriously think she'd put a good picture
                              up on he web and attract hordes of drooling
                              net.geeks and freaks.
                   \_ Don't bother.  She is butt ugly.
                        \_ http://www.mulan.com
                        \_ <DEAD>infopad.eecs/~chaotic/images/stav1.gif<DEAD>
        \_ Are you caucasian?  Because cute Asian girls will only date
           non-asians.
           \_ They suck cock really well too!  White cock only, though,
              sorry Chinaboy.
              \_ Do asian chicks have a preference over white cocks
                 to asian ones?
              \_ Dude, I don't care if you're white or asian.  If you're
                 eecs major you're freaking butt ugly as hell.  That's
                 just given.
        \_ Most Asians girls I've seen that date white guys are
                   \_ Attractive == good in bed. What else do you date
                      a woman for? To show off to your friends? Grow up.
           butt ugly.  Not sure what those guys are thinking.\
           \_ Remember, attractive != beautiful
                \_ Don't be stupid.
           \_ As an Asian who was once concerned about this very problem,
              I have to wholedeartedly agree. Caucasians know how to choose
              the worst looking ones.
                \_ Then again, Asian girls know how to choose the most
                   butt ugly guys.  They're either butt ugly white guys
                   or Asian frat punks with the same lowered Integras
                   and unplugged muffler crap.
                \_ yeah...caucasians date the fuglist asians.  But then
                   the fine asian chicks usually date fugly caucasians.
                   Or they are both just plain fugly.  I don't think
                   asian men have much to worry about ... all caucasians
                   are doing is removing fugliness from the gene pool.
                \_ thats cuz caucasians do round robin, doing 1 chic 2 another
                \_ thats cuz caucasians are only looking for the best blowjobs
                \_ You're only look in Berkeley where all women are ugly.
                   Go somewhere else and see that all the real babes, both
                   Asian and others only date white guys.
        \_ Dating Asian Girls: the motd topic that WOULD NOT DIE!!!
        \_ It has been my experience that I date mostly caucasians because
           the large majority of men that approach me are caucasian.
                \_ I assume you are female.  I also assume you are butt ugly.
                   \_ She's on CSUA. No assumption necessary.
                      \_ So that means that all CSUA guys are also butt
                         ugly?
                         \_ There IS a reason why the CS labs are in the
                            lower floors with no windows so outsiders can
                            look in...
        \_ Hahaha...You guys are so funny!  But I'd have to disagree with you
           I have seen some caucatians with some fine asian chics.  Seen them
           with Korean, Chinese and Japanese... [formatting corrected]
        \_ I think SWF are totally georgous and attractive. AM should consider
           alternatives.
                \_ If I 'come out' and admit I have white fetish will I
                   get flamed as much as people w/ asian fetish? (guy)
                   \_ White isn't a fetish.  It's normal.  White chicks are
                      the standard.  How can that be a fetish?
                      \_ You're livin in Hollywood bud.  Snap out of it.
                      \_ If majorities ruled, Asian is clearly the standard;
                         think of all the Chinese and Indians out there!
        \_ It's just as well that the Asian girls are going out with ugly
                   \_ wrong, cmlee you twink.  -tom.
           white guys, because that leaves all the HOT ASIAN GUYS for me.
                \_ shut up, aspo.
                \_ shut up, tom.
                \_ there are no HOT ASIAN GUYS.  only tiny tipped itty
        \_ can't we all just get along? be happy.
                   bitty committee boys.
                   \_ Maybe the hot ones don't go out with you because you
                      are so butt-ugly.  I got me some sexy asian ass.
1998/6/22-23 [Finance/CC, Recreation/Dating] UID:14233 Activity:kinda low
6/22    These fuckers are going down. Help me do it:
        http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/12320.html
        \_ Looking at online porn is nothing to be ashamed of.  Paying
           for it is.  Paying for it and getting screwed is even
           more embarrassing... :)   -John
           \_ And what did these people _think_ was going to happen when they
              unquestioningly gave their credit card number to some sleazy
              porn company over the net?  Like, duh.
          \_ Look now. I have given my credit card number to probably a dozen
             porn companies and none of them ripped me off. So your position
             is that if you buy porn, you deserve to be ripped off? Let me
             me guess, you're either a man-hating feminist or a religious
             freak, right?
             \_ Y3AH, D00D!!!1!  TH0S3 DYK3 F3M1NAZ1Z N" J3SUS FR33KS JUST
                D0N"T UND3RSTAND TH3 _N33DS_ UV _R3UL M3N_ LI3K U N" M3!!1!

             \_ Or more likely, an online porn consumer who was once
                ripped off.
1998/6/22-23 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14229 Activity:very high
6/22    Mulan was EXCELLENT. Also a lot of cute Asian chics in the theatre.
        \_ shut up aaron
                \_ i haven't seen it yet --aaron
                   \_ maybe not, but you will for the sake of scamming.
        \_ It is indeed excellent, but I don't see no cute asian chics
           in the theatre here in Waukesha, WI.  Many cute white chicks
           though.
               - in exile Berkeleyan
                \_  P.S. Asian girls kick butt, I love all of them.
               \_ Like you will find any in Berkeley.
                  \_ Don't be too greedy.  Try Waukesha, WI or Kokomo, IN
                     for a few years, and you will find the BA to be
                     heaven on earth.  What's with this explosion of
                     restaurants on Solano?
               \_ Asian girls kick butt, I love all of them.
                \_ especially in those spike heeled boots with fishnet stockings
                              Why? You have some connections to this pathetic
                    \_ Hey!  I need to stay in Waukesha, WI for some time, so
                       stop tempting me with this asian chicks stuff.  Let's
                       talk about white chicks.
                        \ Why ? Since when do any chicks; let alone asian's
                          go out with a soda guy?
                          \_ Haha.  Very funny. -Waukesha sodan.
                        \_ GE Medical Systems sucks.  -tom
                           \_ Good try but you are wrong.  My company is worse.
                              You have some connections to this pathetic
                              place?
                                \_ I worked for GEMS for 8 years, and spent
                                   several weeks on projects in Waukesha. -tom

                                   \_ Does GEMS really suck?  For what's its
                                      worth, I am actually quite impressed
                                      during the interview, but turned down
                                      an offer cause I don't want to live
                                      in Waukesha, WI.

                                      You must be rich with GE stocks then.
                                \_ It sucks for geeks.  It's probably OK for
                                   pointy-haired types.  My GE stock is
                                   doing well, I would hardly say I'm
                                   rich off it.  -tom
                                   \_ Thanks for the info.  So, what's
                                      a good company for geeks?
                                \_ One without many pointy-haired types.  -tom
1998/5/12 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14084 Activity:nil
5/12    WE LOVE YOU JERRY! http://www.nypostonline.com/entertainment/1740.htm
1998/5/4-5 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14042 Activity:insanely high
5/1  Meet Chelseas boyfriend.
    http://www.abcnews.com/sections/us/DailyNews/chelsea_0503.html
        \_ Chelseas boyfriend is an oxymoron isn't it?
        \_would have been more newsworthy if it were 'meet Chelsea's Girlfriend"
                \_ *Nothing* about her is newsworthy.  I can't wait for Bill
                   to get impeached so I can stop hearing about her.
        \_ ...and the next White House intern
        \_ I'd like to see bill clinton fuck chelsea AND her girlfriend.
           a threesome full of incest and very very hot sex.
           \_ Personally, I wouldn't wanna witness ANY of them having sex
              with anyone *shudder*
                \_ Agreed.  This is the meaning of fear.
        \_ I wonder who would have had the balls to be Chelsea's bf if she
           went to Cal?
           \_ The Hate Man
           \_ The guy isn't fucking Chelsea because he likes her.  Just like
              at the Farm, some Cal Pretty Boy would have come up with the
              bright idea that hangin' with the Prez' butt ugly daughter could
              get him somewhere in life.  If Daddy wasn't the Prez, he
              wouldn't be on the same planet as her if he could help it.
              \_ read the article.  I'd be very surprised if there is any
                fucking going on anywhere.  Oh, maybe she has jerked him
                off a couple of times, but I bet she hasn't come with that
                guy yet.
                \_ Would the secret service even allow this??? Imagine the
                   SS sleeping in the next dorm room, and they hear cries from
                   Chelsea. Of course, they have a shoot first, ask later
                   mentality, so they kill the kid on top of her.
                \_ I'll read it but you seriously think some random article
                   will give you honest details about her relationship?
              \_ My, my, but aren't you the cynic.
                 Maybe he just has a fetish for ugly white chicks.
                 \_ Hahahhaha... I stand (possibly) corrected.  I still
                    prefer to think he's using her since the ugly white
                    chick fetish is too scary.   -the cynic
           \_ Chancellor Tien
              \_ Only if he gets to wear the Oski head to bed
           \_ Tom.
           \_ psb
1998/5/3 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14039 Activity:nil
5/2     May you all find a virgin to dance around your flogpole.
        \_ Got one, thanks.
                \_ Why is she still a virgin then?
1998/4/16 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13973 Activity:nil
4/16    Help!  I am pussy-whipped by my totally unresonable gf and
        I can't get out!  What can I do?
        \_ Open your wallet, rip out your spine.
1998/4/16 [Recreation/Dating, Science, Politics] UID:13972 Activity:high
4/16    Power Nipples.
        \_ freaky-huge!
        \_ Help! I am pussy whipped by my gf with power nipples, what can
           I do?
1998/4/16 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13970 Activity:nil
4/16    I am a 21-year-old gay virgin, and I will be in the closet till
        God knows when. I masturbate to wrestling tapes--it's like my
        brand of porn. The winner does nothing for me. The loser becomes my
        fantasy. It's a huge turn-on to watch a guy in trunks get pinned.
        I like to look at the expression on his face once he's pinned; his
        embarrassment in front of other people and his family is another part
        of the turn-on for me. Something about a guy submitting and laying
        on the mat for the count of three is so arousing that I have to
        jerk off. What does this fetish mean?
        \_ It means that your as queer as a three dollar bill. What the
        hell else do you think it means? The return of Jesus H. Christ?
                \_ I love it when you talk like that. You can pin me to a
                   mat anytime, big boy. -tom
1998/4/8 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13922 Activity:very high 66%like:13921
4/8   So how much sex does the average CS student get around here?
      \_ mooo
        \_ depends on whether you are talking about netsex or real sex.
        \_ depends on whether it's netsex or real sex.
        \_ I am not sure about this one. Are CS majors able to actually
           have real sex? That should be the question we ask around here.
           I know I get plenty, but not with CS majors.  -An MCB major
      \_ Sex? What's sex? - Average CS student
      \_ We need more sexy-hungry women on soda!
1998/4/8 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13916 Activity:high
4/7     aspolito you didn't have to delete the motd just because i expressed
        my true feelings for you on it.  i love you and i know you love me.
        please come back.
        \_ sign yer name -aspo
        \_ it's not me -anonymous
        \_ it's me!
1998/3/9 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13779 Activity:nil
3/8     Would someone please list all the available women on
        soda? - desperate
        \_ That's beyond desperate.
        \_ Would someone please list any soda guy worth dating? --female
           \_ Me
1998/3/4 [Politics/Domestic/California, Recreation/Dating] UID:49812 Activity:nil
3/4     Can someone post the age of consent again? Thanks. I remember
        Hawaii is 14, California is 18, what else?
        Age of Consent Laws in the United States
        ----------------------------------------
          Age 14:  Hawaii, Pennsylvania
              15:  Colorado, South Carolina
              16:  Alabama, Connecticut, Deleware, District of Columbia,
                   Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine,
                   Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana,
                   Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North
                   Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, South Dakata, Utah, Vermont,
                   Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming
              17:  Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Texas
              18:  Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Calif., Florida, Idaho,
                   Illinois, Mississippi, North Dakata, Oklahoma, Oregon,
                   Tennessee, Virginia, Wisconsin
                I suggest checking out Hawaii :)
1998/3/3-4 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13751 Activity:very high
3/3     How do I steal someone else's gf?
        \_ You don't unless you're a fucking idiot.  Who wants a slut whore
           that is willing to bed hop like that?
                \_ Roomates usually like to steal your gf. They shouldDIE!
                        \_ haha, lost a girl to a roommate?
                        \_ Lost two girlfriends to two different roomates :<
                                \_ next time get our own apt!!
                \_ why are you assuming she's sleping with him?
                        \_ what do you think they do you idiot.
        \_ If their relationship isn't working out it's easy, if not it's a
                bit harder - been there/done that
                \_ assuming their relationship is working out ok, then
                   what? I'd give up anything for this girl!!
                        \_ what, can't get youself any other girl?
        \_ rope, duct tape, and a handgun
        \_ Ask nevman.
                \_ who's nevman?
                        \_ nevman@csua
                \_ why? been there? done that?
        \_ You don't unless you're a fucking idiot. [or fucking an idiot?]
           Who wants a slut whore that is willing to bed hop like that?
           \_ me! me!
                \_ $20 on most streets in Oakland will get you what you
                   want, and cost less in time money and emotional grief
                   when slut girl dumps your stupid ass for some other loser.
1998/2/25-26 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13736 Activity:high
2/25    I want to break up with my gf but I can't figure out a way
        to tell her without breaking her heart, but yet I don't
        want this relationship anymore?  Can someone suggest ideas?
        \_ Isn't it obvious? THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW! --aaron
        \_ Kill her off before she has a chance to find out.  Or get her a
           nice, virgin Sodan as a new boyfriend.
        \_ Have you noticed that girls don't fret over this "break his
           heart" stuff. They just do it.
           \_ Yep.  Stop dating cold women.  Don't choose your dates based on
              bra size.  Don't date some slut whore who had more sex partners
              in the last 6 months than you have fingers n toes.
           \_ Maybe because men don't have hearts.
                \_ Any guy worth having does.  It's your fault if you have
                   zero taste in men.
                   \_ Men have hearts.  They just think it's something that
                      pumps blood through their veins and arteries. --female
           \_ Women use their tears, men use their sperms.
                \_ Say what?  What are you smoking?  That made no sense.
                \_ DUDE.  you need spelling lessons.  i'm going to go pet
                   my deers now.
        \_ Tell her your life is like a movie and everybody you know is
           a supporting actor/actress.  Then tell her she's been re-cast.
                                                                --azarm
        \_ Be a man dammit. Staying with someone you don't love is a waste
           of her time and YOUR time.  Beating around the bush for days makes
           you weak and gives her ammunition to think of all men as pathetic
           brainless trolls.  Being truthful with a woman is hard the first
           time (it brought both of us to tears) but
           she hasn't called since and I haven't regretted my bluntness.
           \_ Just do what all those "goodhearted" soda boys do.  Start living
           in Soda Hall, get fat, become aloof, lose touch with your emotions,
           become belligerent when you're remotely close to being in touch with
           emotions, and become a totally selfish and self deprecating pathetic
           geek who thinks he's hot shit to his girlfriend but really isn't.
           \_ What woman worth being with would have a guy like this for more
              than 5 seconds?  This comment speaks volumes about both sides of
              the story and doesn't look too good for either.
              \_ That's odd.  I lost weight when sitting in soda hall.
1998/2/25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13735 Activity:nil
2/25    ~chris/pub/sexy
        \_ Damn, this is a blast from the past.
        \_ Any list of sexy sodans not containing raytrace is invalid
                \_ Its the "sexy" list, if you want another sort of list,
                   you should start your own.  Such as the "slut" list.
1998/2/24 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13726 Activity:nil
2/23    I can't stop masturbating whenever I think of my best friend's gf.
        Help!
        \_ I don't see a problem.  Enjoy.
           \_ the problem is, he doesn't have any naked pictures of her.
        \_ A choice between your best friend and a woman .. a very tough
           choice.  Good luck.
           \_ If you and your friend are bisexual, no problem.
        \_ I've been having the same problem for years.  I still can't get
           over it even though now she's gained quite a bit of weight.
1998/2/17 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13684 Activity:insanely high
02/16   Incredibly stupid mega geek girlfriend pseudo-code deleted to save
        some poor dumb stupid bastard from utter shame when he sobers up.
        \_ Aw, you shouldn't have deleted it. 'Sides, I was going to flame
           the guy for fantasizing about a 5'4", 100lb girl. Get a clue,
           a girl that tall and that thin is probably SICK!
           \_ Shut up you big fat bloated whale woman.
           \_ thin is good
           \_ Sorry but it was just far too fucking stupid.
           \_ Had one 5'6" and 98lbs and she was fine.  Thin as hell but fine.
           \_ Will you people please stop trippin' on beanpole chicks!
              \_ Besides, who'd want to hug some ol bag of bones!
              Smart women are ever so much more interesting...
              \_ Since when does being thin or even deathly anorexic make a
                 woman stupid?  Anorexia is a mental illness unrelated to
                 intelligence and thin is sexy.  Where does brainpower come
                 in to this?  If you want to be "interesting" you can be
                 much more interesting if you're an attractive smart woman
                 than a fat smart woman.  Fat women aren't as good in bed
                 either.  I imagine a fat chick is something like having
                 sex with Jabba the Hut.  Now *there's* an attractive and
                 interesting image.
                        \_ You state they aren't as good in bed, then say
                           it's just what you imagine - do you know for sure
                           or are you just pulling crap outta yer ass?
                          \_ Uh oh.. time for Reading Comprehension 1A.  I
                             never had sex with Jabba the Hut.  I've had sex
                             with fat chicks.  Learned English lately?
              \_ Or how does being fat make a woman smart?
                        \_ It doesn't, but unless you're Kate Moss and
                           making millions off it, being too skinny/anorexic
                           is not a sign of high intelligence.
                           \_ I never said it was.  I was countering the claim
                              that thinness is a sign of the lack thereof or
                              that fatness is a sign of the existence of high
                              intelligence.  Back to RC1a again.
              \_ Besides, who'd want to hug some bony skeleton?
                 \_ Obviously you never hugged anyone.  A hug isn't
                    about physical satisfaction, it's emotional sharing
                    through physical contact.  It isn't about the size of
                    any of your parts.
                    \_ Shut up, tawei.
                        \_ Not tawei.  Don't make lame guesses/accusations
                           since you're clearly blinded by the rolls of fat
                           flowing from your bloated sweat dripping forehead
                           down over your bulbous eyes.
                 \_ better than hugging some PHAT BEACH.
                   \_ what, like yer mom?
                     \_ My mom's had better than you and they paid more too,
                        you cheap bastard.
          \_ This is all fine, but what about the bust size???
                \_ More than a mouthful is wasted
                        \_ Two handfuls is perfect.
        \_ I'm sorry, could someone post the deleted messages? I feel lost
1998/2/14-15 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13668 Activity:high
2/13    Valentines day is a stupid day. I hate girlfriend stealers. They bite.
        \_ Yes it is.                   \_i'm not too fond of you either.
        \_ no such thing as "stealing" a girlfriend.  If she could be "stolen"
           you obviously didn't "have" her in the first place. have a sour
           grape.
        \_ I LOVE girlfriend stealers.  They're so romantic.  --girlfriend
          \_ Ok, I'll respond to this troll.  "girlfriend stealers" are
             romantic until after a) they've fucked you, b) you've broken
             up with prior BF, c) you've told prior BF that new BF is such
             a better lover and so romantic, d) they've grown bored of you
             and find someone else because obviously you're a whore since
             you're willing to break up with someone perfectly ok just to
             try out someone else that's no better.  Good luck with your
             new boyfriend for as long as it lasts.  You're just a notch
             on my bedpost.  --been there, done that, stole 'em all.
          \_ Who would want to steal a soda chick?  Get real.  No one ever
             tried to steal you.
1998/2/5 [Politics/Domestic/California, Recreation/Dating] UID:13627 Activity:high
2/4     In California, what's the closest blood relationship between a
        male and a female that is still legal for marriage?  Or where can I
        find out about this info?  Thanks.
        \_ Fallen for your sister, eh?
        \_ Fallen for your mother, eh?
        \_ Plan on becoming Amish?
           \_ What about Amish?
        \_ Ask psb or tom; didn't they both fall in love with themselves ?
        \_ Don't worry about it, masturbation is still legal in all 50.
1998/2/3-5 [Recreation/Dating] UID:13614 Activity:very high
2/3     http://www.cnn.com/US/9802/03/teacher.arrest for all the latest
        on women raping men.  Or boys as the case may be.
          -posted by csuaer who can't get any and is lazy
        \_ It could have been worse.
        \_ How about this URL:
                http://my.excite.com/news/r/980203/16/news-rape
                       ^^^^^^^^^                      ^^^^^^^^^
        \_ I wish I had a teacher like that when I was 13. -virgin csualuser
           \_ Me too!  -- another loser
           \_ You guys should have hit on Anita Choe when you had the chance
              \_ Forgive my ignorance, but who is she?
              \_ Just another wannabe csua slut loser chick.
           \_yeah but now yer mom's easier.
        \_ S0 how come she gets 6 mo, when a guy would have gotten 6 years.
                There aren't any women fighting to keep her in, just like
           "willing" participant?--boyz2men
                there aren't any women fighting for the draft either.
                        -- equalitarian
           \_ Because stat rape isn't considered a crime the way forced
              physical rape is.  Men rarely get real time on stat rape either.
        \_ Somehow I always imagined this topic involving large
           Samoan women.  "Lolito"  -John
        \_ how can it be "rape" when the boy has said that he is a
           "willing" participant?--NAMBLA
                \_ He can't legally be willing.  He isn't of age to grant
                   consent.
                \_ It's called "statutory rape"
        \_ Talk about crushing a man ego.  "Hunny, I dumped you for
           this 13 year old stud.  He's much better in bed that you are"
           \_ The husband moved to alaska with the kids, and filed
               for divorce.... :)
              \_ Wouldn't you leave if you're wife was boffing some
                 13 year old kid intead of you?
                  \_ Right after opening a can of "Whup Ass"
                \_ depends if a) the kid was female b) I got to watch
                \_ Oh, as if the kid was a man, it'd be ok?
1998/1/30-2/2 [Recreation/Dating, Consumer/Camera] UID:13599 Activity:high
1/29    Once again I'm begging for use of a video camera.  This
        is for a class project (Anthro 138B Ethnographic Filmaking) with
        two other people and will NOT i repeat NOT be used for any sort
        of porn, straight or gay.   (Not sure why I have to say this but
        for some reason you sodans seem to think I'm some sex fiend)
                -aspolito
        \_ Yer filming me aren't you. What am I, a hermaphrodite?
           my grandiose body parts not naked enough for you?
        \_ So you're going to film yourself and other men of non-white
           ethnic origins having sexual relations?
        \_ porn for a female audience is known as "erotica" - danh
           \_ I'm male and I like "erotica".  Does that make me female?
                        - Gender Confused?
                \_ No, it just makes you tawei.
        \_ Cant you get one from work or somewhere?
         \_ If I could do you tihnk I'd be begging on the motd? -aspo
         \_ how about Good Guys?
            \_ "My gay lover and I bought this camera together to take sexually
                explicit videos of each other -- but he ran away two weeks ago
                to join the crew of a shrimp boat, so I don't need it anymore.
                Your return policy covers this, right?"
        \_ aspo, don't hide our love behind (heh) lies.  Tell em it's for us
           to record our deep (heh) love for all times.  We'll have B5 and
           Gayboy night at Nick's.  (No offense intended towards Nick).
           \_ Yeah.  You like the attention.  Go rent one.  Or buy one, use
              it, return it.  Or better yet, drop the class and get a life.
1997/5/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:32140 Activity:nil
5/1     Ellen Degeneras - she rocks.
        \_ that's Degeneres.
             \_ That's Degenerate.
        \_ Her show's so lame, though
        \_ Rocks?  Uh, why?  Because she pulled a publicity stunt to save
           her dying show?  Oh yay.  >yawn<
         \_ what have _you_ done that's comparable to baring your
         soul on national tv? nothing? oh! <yawn>
         \_ Gotten a life, a job, a girlfriend, and a good
            enough attitude that I don't care about baring my
              soul on national tv?  Oh, whoops, that's not nearly
            as noble or admirable, I guess.  Silly me.  -John
          \_ "What does [blank] matter?" is a favorite
          ploy of straight white males when minorities
          get uppity.  You can marry your girlfriend.
          Queers can't, for one.  You can get a job
          without being discriminated on the basis
          of your sexuality.  Queers can't.
          People like you are like dumb jocks in
          mosh pits, who step on little kids and then
          go "DUH, huh?"  --pcjr
1997/3/28 [Recreation/Dating, Industry/Jobs] UID:32113 Activity:nil
3/27    hello, bigbook mass layoffs. web worker mass suicide. coincidence?
        new novel plot? you decide. --partha "pynchon" banerjee
        \_ Don't remove my comments about suggesting the Taos minions kill
            themselves just like those SD geeks did; it's impolite.
        \_ Did, by chance, 39 employees get laid off by Bigbook and move
           to San Diego?  -John
        \_ They had BB options.  Now redeemable for Mc Donalds gift
            certificates!!
        \_ Not one female... talk about discriminatory.
           \_ Actually, in some of the bigger companies, HR postprocesses
              the layoff roll to make sure disadvantaged minorities are
              not disproportionately targeted.  Theoretically, this is a
              good thing.  Practically, this means disadvantaged minorities
              are much less likely to get laid off than advantaged minorities
              or majorities.

           \_Actually, there were several females but htey shaved their
             heads and looked like men.  Also, they were strangled which
             counts as murder in San Diego.
        \_ http://www.heavensgate.com ==> Too many users. Please try again later.
         \_http://www5.zdnet.com/yil/higher/heavensgate
        \_ Oh my god, I believe that Do and Dr. Kevorkian are brothers!!!
        \_ Come join the engineering cult! Spend the rest of your life
           in Soda Hall, doing projects! Free your soul with your innate
           nerdiness!!!
1997/2/12 [Recreation/Dating] UID:32069 Activity:nil
2/14    Anyone need a gf for Valentine's day?
        \_ I'm old, I need gf, take me home, bury me.
        \_ "hey baby..."
           \_ BLAM
        \_ The most miserable creature of all on the face of this earth
           is a woman unloved.
           \_ Actually, I'd say that the most miserable creature of all
              is a CS woman unloved.
              \_ actually, the most miserable creature of all is tawei
           \_ Actually, the most miserable creature of all in Japan on
              Valentine's Day may be a man unloved.  Because, in Japan,
              Valentine's Day is the day for a woman to give a gift to the
              man/men she loves.  Aren't you glad to be here?  ;)  --yumin
         \_ I like japanese girls.  hee heee heeeeeee
         \_ Do men need to anything on Valentine's Day besides
            receiving gift from girls???
                   \_ Nothing on Valentine's Day.  But on March 14th (a
                      month later), he will give a gift to the
                      woman/women he loves and also from whom he received
                      a gift on Valentine's Day.  --yumin
          \_ they're not the same woman?
         \_ Clue time.  Most of us aren't in Japan.  Who cares
            about Japan's bizarre and broken social customs?
          \_ typical american who thinks that he's the center
             of the universe.
           \_ When a man is unloved, it is the woman's fault.
              When a woman is unloved, it is the woman's fault.
                \_ When yermom is unloved, it is yer fault.
          \_ She loved my sister.
        \_ depends.  who are you?
        \_ I need a woman!
           \_ So does yermom.
         \_ She already has my sister.
            \_ I want to see your mom and your sister in some hot
        lez action.
1996/12/21 [Recreation/Dating] UID:32024 Activity:nil
12/20   I am very sorrowed to report that Dr. Carl Sagan has died at age 64.
        Please join me in a moment of silence. . . . . . . . . .   He will
        be deeply missed by humans and aliens alike.  -- cmlee, *sob* *sob*
        \_ butt-head astronomer
        \_ I thought he'd live for billions and billions of years.
        \_ I am saddened, as I looked up to him since I was 9.
              According to CNN and Reuters, he was 62. - mas
              \_ I believe cmlee is referring to his age realative to
           earth years.  You see, he spent so much time travelling
            at/near the speed of light...  :)
            \_ What i wana know is who gets that cool cosmos space
        ship with the groovy crystals!!!
1996/9/25-29 [Recreation/Dating] UID:31896 Activity:high
9/24    BBQ set for 10/12/96.  Everyone is invited.  Potluck style
        or people can chip in and someone can get stuff as usual.  I
        am hoping to get CS faculty and other student groups.
              -jsl
        \_ If this date is really bad for anyone, please mail me! -jsl
        \_ If this date is really bad for anyone, please maul me! -jsl
         \_ if the date is really "set" then what's the point?
          \_ if enough people have trouble date can be changed
             \_ then it's not that 'set' is it?
        \_ As for other students societies to get involved, where are you
           going to have it?
1996/8/7-8 [Recreation/Dating] UID:31877 Activity:high
8/7     What's a better gift for the first date, single long stem rose
        or cute little teddy bear?
        \_ SAP ALERT
        \_ A chainsaw!  Either red, or yellow, your choice.
        \_ This had better be a good first date.  Please don't write on
           the motd next -- "She stood me up.  What should I do?"
        \_ if she's under 18, definitely teddy bear. If over 23, definitely
           rose. Somewhere between is hard to choose.
        \_ Would a bouquet overdo it?
        \_ MAKE SURE IT'S A YELLOW ROSE ON THE FIRST DATE
           (don't ask me why, I've just been told that yellow
           is the right choice) - jed
        \_ Yellow == friendship, Red == love, Purple == ????
                \_ no no don't get a yellow rose - yellow stands for sickness
                as well, and is more accepted as a color for get-well-wishes
                and such. i'd avoid the teddy bear- too cutesy & high school.
                \_ Yellow also means infidelity.
                \_ White means friendship, dumb ass.
        \_ do _not_ buy a yellow rose.  it means loss of love or
                infidelity.  do _not_ buy a white rose.  it means
                friendship, which is not the right sentiment for
                a date.  do _not_ buy a red rose, because it means
                passionate love, which is premature on a first date.
                do _not_ buy a teddy bear, because that's really corny.
                do _not_ go to a formal restaurant for dinner on a first date,
                because that's too tense.  save the gifts and formal
                stuph for later, when real feelings have had time to
                develop.  if you must bring a gift, make sure it's
                small, and refers in a humorous way to how you
                met her or something else unique about her.  -hh
                \_ carpooling...think about it
        \_ a teddy bear for a first date?  I'd say go for the rose, it'll
           make her feel less "under pressure."  And I'd go for the pink
           rose - pink means "attraction" (less direct than the red rose).
        \_ Dewd/dewdette don't worry about it. Just be yourself and enjoy
           the date.
        \_ A Mum means Hope. - http://www.pressenter.com/~rose/meaning.htm
        \_  I think purple roses look the best
        \_ How about a black rose?
                \-giver her a black lotus. if she doesnt play magic and
        realize what you've given her, then dump her. --psb
        \_ Don't give him/her a rose.  It makes you too predictable and
                boring.  You wanna look cool.  Treat him/her to dinner,
                and give a box of gummy worms (teddy bears too, if you
                want to be a sap).
                Don't give gummy salamanders though.  It signifies
                desperate sex.  --pcjr
        \_ I'd prefer a bullwhip.  or a switchblade. I suppose if the date
           consisted of shooting holes in the teddy bear, that too would
           be acceptable. -ray
        \_ I don't give gift on first date; that is so passe. - choice
        \_ Yeah, first date, so passe man. Why don't you skip all that
           and go straight to the hysterical breakup scenes? Get with it. -pvg
        \_ Don't knock Origami flowers.  Always a good choice
        \_ Why? You fucking lose in the end any which way.
        \_ What's a difference between "going out" and a "date"?
        \_ ZERO TOLERANCE!!!!!
        \_ OH MAN, I REALLY AM GOING TO EXERT SOME SELF-CONTROL --chris
           \_ not enough to shut up, apparently.
        \_ Don't you dumbfucks know anything? (except psb who had a good
           idea.)  Bring condoms.  If she doesn't play and realize what
           you've given her, then dump her.  --psb fan
1996/2/12 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:31810 Activity:nil
2/12    CSUA BAGG run, this wednesday (St. Valentine's Day)
        Be there or be a right-angled rhombus!
1995/11/3 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Men] UID:49803 Activity:nil
11/3    Nov 3, 1995

ikiru@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu
Euphrasia
415 921 7399

Please do not call after midnight or before dawn.   I will not read any
e-mail regarding this post.  i ask that interested parties call me
on the phone as this is a personal matter.  Thank you.

Male Beauty To Hellenistically Bathe And Pose For My Watercolor

Nebulous Tabula Rosa

Soft, large eyed, tall, slender yet curvaceous, athletic, healthy,
small breasted, sensual, pretty SWF 30, with lengthy, strong,
playfully affectionate legs seeks educated 20-29 healthy,
emotionally sound, clean, shy, drug free nonsmoking, 6ft+, strong
SWM with a flawless and fair complexion, short hair,
and a *kind* heart to share private sensitivities with while
bathing him, posing for her watercolor and exchanging love, kisses and
monogamous prospectives.   Too, you should be a man that would enjoy
having your feet massaged and bathed as well as the rest of your physic.

No sexually transmitted diseases, mean men or men who seek a mother figure.
I want to love a man and be loved by a man that can cry and laugh with me.
A shy man appeals to me and I prefer a virgin or one that has not had
many lovers.

Please do not call me if you have a girl friend and are looking for a casual
interaction because she does not fulfill your desires.  I am not
casual and I do not find interacting with a man who functions on a
physical level alone to be interesting.  Please do not call me if you
are an avid TV watcher or sports fan.  I do not like loud crowds,
TV sounds and sport event atmospheres.  I do not want to fall in
love with a man who has his 'team'.   Please do not call me if you
have a 'team'.  Men who have a team can not live spontaneously.

If you are a beautiful man, as the one I describe in mind and body, and
seek what I offer, please call me.  I will not read any e-mail.  Do not
call me unless you are happy with your physic and have an honest mind that
enjoys tenderness and avoids pain.

I enjoy country sides, picnics, opera, theater, dancing, the symphony and
I want to share love with a man who will bring me Godiva chocolates and
blue and pink flowers whenever he comes to visit.  And I enjoy adventure
and having a comfortable home is important to me.  It is nice to have a
wonderful place to return should the adventure be cumbersome.

I am a writer and are quite busy.  I work for the airlines which has
allowed me to experience the more beautiful parts of the world such
as Tahiti, which is my favorite.   I enjoy the delicate life style that
the islands offer in their sounds, scent and temperature.  I prefer
gentle atmospheres to extreme ones although Alaska in the winter is
one of my favorite places given its penetrating silence and northern
lights.

I think that a wonderful way to begin a relationship with another, should
attraction be present, is to bathe one another.  This intimacy may take
time to transpire however.   In depth discussions and interacting in various
environments may first be necessary before such a trust could be
considered.   I am uncomfortable with a fast pace and fast men.

Being bathed is a delicate and intimate way to get to know another while
building trust and understanding.   I would wash your hair and with steamy
water, soothe your mind and your beautiful body, treating you with
my finest love and tenderness.  I could not be cruel or forceful.
And at any time you are free to change your mind and I will not put up a fuss.
If we are mutually attracted to one another I would enjoy beginning a
relationship with you this way.  I prefer a shy man and I do not like a
man who is arrogant.  I feel more comfortable with a shy man.

Please, no mean messages from men playing mind games or from angry
women telling me that I am a bad woman.   Or from unconscious people
who think being well groomed implies superficial character.

Whenever I make postings of any type I tend to get some e-mail messages
from people yelling at me so I have decided not to read my e-mail
unless it is from someone that I know.  Also, given the simplicity
in forging mail, I do not find mail to be an appropriate or discreet
way of meeting such a man or of making correspondences with those that
I do not know.

This is not a joke.  Please call me only if you
ARE THE MAN I DESCRIBE and are interested in learning
about who I am and want to be loved and love.  PLEASE DO NOT CALL ME
IF YOU ARE NOT WHAT I DESCRIBE.

I want to bathe and paint a healthy man who takes care
of his body, respects it and protects its vulnerabilities.
If you are a world traveler and you do not take the
precautions that are necessary then do not contact me.  I
am not interested in a man that lives as an action figure
because I then will not feel that I can trust my body with
him.  I will not trust myself with a man who has not cared for
his own body and mind.   A man is simply human and I will only share my
love and affections with one that enjoys celebrating his humanity; he
carefully seeks out his limits and works within
them, not outside of them to where he then ages prematurely.  It is not
possible for two to share in a healthy relationship if either person
is lacking in health or does not enjoy what it is to be human.

The morning is a beautiful time for lovers, lovers who are healthy.  If
you drink coffee I am not interested in you as coffee drinkers have poor
breath and taste poor, particularly come morning time which is my
favorite time for love making.  Also, do not call me.  I want the sound
of soft breath moving in and out.  That sound contents me.  Snore sounds
agitate me.  A shy, sleepy man is so very sexy in the morning hours, my
favorite time of day as long as it is taken slow and easy, instinctually.

I do not have children and I am not interested in a man seeking a woman
simply for the reason of having his.  I am seeking love with a man who
needs a mate to enjoy life with.  I am happy and I want to share that
however I am not interested in rushing through things.  Commitments take
time and serious thought..

If you are serious about taking part in a sensual relationship with me
please do not e-mail me but call me on the telephone at 415 921 7399.
But only if you fit the description.   Any e-mail I receive with respect
to this posting I do not read.

Please do not call me if you are not what I describe.  I have taken
time to write this because I am looking for a SPECIFIC man, not any man.  If
you have now forgot the type of man I seek, and want to call, please reread
this letter before calling.  Call me only if you fit the description.  I am
seeking a very beautiful man in mind and body that cares for himself well.

The ritual of Hellenistically bathing a man is a healing, sensual
expression of love and intimacy towards him.  Sound is important.  Taste,
temperature, texture and lighting.

A man once called me and went on about how he Jacuzzi hops.  That is not
the experience I am interested in creating.   The sounds are small.  The
trickles of water squeezed from a cloth soaked in hot water gently tracing
down your spine.  Tracing my finger tips with an oil aside the moisture.
The lighting is soft.  Afore my fire place in my Penthouse where I keep
my rustic ceramic tub, big enough to hold your feet where I first tend
to them before discovering the rest.  In that I would bathe you as you
stood.  The warmth from the fire and the steamy water I attentively kept
your feet covered with will warm you.

Once your feet were properly cared for, bathed, clipped and massaged, I
then would brush your hair lightly, dampen it with my fingers and wash
it for you.  Perhaps then you might tell me your stories about things
that you've done, your dreams and hopes.

Trickles of soothing warm water crossing your body.

Thank you,

Euphrasia
1995/2/12 [Recreation/Dating] UID:31761 Activity:nil
2/11    I plan on attempting to get laid and going to see the
1994/5/11 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:31590 Activity:nil
5/10    Would someone please tell us what /usr8 and /usr9 are slated to be
        used for?
        \_ I hear they're for gifs of nekkid gurlz.
        \_ /usr8: gifs of nekkid gurlz; /usr9: mpegs of nekkid gurlz
         \_ when can I move my gifs of nekkid gurlz to /usr8.
            they take up alot of disk space...
        \_ /usr8 currently has X11R6 and emacs 19; when those are moved to
           standard places (probably at least a month) it will be used for
           accounts most likely.
           /usr9 is already being used for accounts.
1994/3/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Recreation/Dating] UID:31539 Activity:nil
3/19    I am looking for a female friend.  Might lead to a closer
        relationship (gf???).  Interested???  Post your name here.
           |     \_ try signing your name, and then all the Super Models on
           |        soda whould know who to mail.
           \__ obGetALifeKChang
        \_Get a clue instead.
        \_You really ought to just have the guts to say:
          "I'm single, would any girls on soda like to have lunch
           sometime?" I mean, like anyone is going to post a response
           so a cloud of soda geeks descends on her. --aaron
        \_Are you serious?  Someone on soda?  You need help.
          \_ Hey, some very nice people on soda!
            \_ There are some nice people here, but the motd is NOT the place
        to go looking for babes (except aaron). - seidl
        \_Who cares about all the comments above?  What's important is that
           there won't be any kind of reply that the original poster wishes
           for.  If there is, I'll be a *&#^@$.
        \_ I'll go out with you! The first blowjob is free. You're gong to
           have to pay for the rest though. -yermom
1993/12/12 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:31447 Activity:nil
11/13   Comments about sexy CSUA members should now be directed here,
        apparently.  Have a nice day.
          -brought to you by the CSUA Wet T-shirt committee
1993/4/18 [Recreation/Dating] UID:31272 Activity:nil
4/18    I love you, you love me, we are happy family...
        With a great big hug and a kiss from me to you
        won't you say you love me too.
            -David Koresh
1993/4/6 [Recreation/Dating] UID:31260 Activity:nil
4/5     xproof (troff previewer for X) installed in /usr/X11/bin,
        man in /usr/local/man
        /usr/X11/bin/xflick for .fli
        also, mpeg_play, written by people here at Berkeley, for you to
        view all your dirty mpegs... /usr/local/bin/mpeg_play, man in
        /usr/local/man -- xxxxxxxx
        xviewgl in ~xxxxxxx/xviewgl/xviewgl* <-- for all you .gl and
        xdl in ~xxxxxxx/xdl*       .dl h0zers  :)

I love you, you love me, we are happy family...
With a great big hug and a kiss from me to you
won't you say you love me too.
\_ NO
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