11/16   Anonymous responds to be labeled a "terrorist" by Isreali media:
        http://t.co/0lIgC166

1/15    I was so out.  I thought "Lady Gaga" was a big fat lady singer in her
        50's, until I google'd for her image today.  I think she should pick a
        different name.
        \_ There is some rationale for picking a 2 syllable name if you want
           it to be remembered.  Also, Lady Gaga is now an unbelievably
           powerful brand, I wouldn't hold my breath for her switching the
           name. -mrauser
        \_ I assumed Lady Gaga was a tranny.
        \_ "Lady Stupid"

2/22    I don't really care about the 2007 Oscar but I'm betting with a
        bunch of co-workers. What's the best site that gives the best
        predictions? I don't care who wins, I'm just looking for the
        best (consistent and high %) predictions.

9/1     Cal Thomas, "Al Gore is Right About the Media"
        http://tinyurl.com/kad79 (realclearpolitics.com)
        \_ Who the hell is Cal Thomas?

7/18    Hey Chicom, are you in on this?  It would explain a lot.
        http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=24609
        \_ I happened to value freedom of speech, probably value it more
           than you do because I have experienced those things.
           I do curious, though.  Putin has done a lot more harming the
           freedom of speech but why no US media ever bitch about it?
           \_ Because he's not a commie.
           \_ Our government has.
           \_ I've read many articles and editorials about this in the
              mainstream US media.  As with many issues that people
              whine about not being reported fairly, can you show me
              evidence that the US media is biased in favor of Putin?

5/22    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=286756
        How the Media Brainwashes White Girls

7/22    A bunch of grannies tried to enlist in the armed forces and
        got arrested. This is not good media exposure. Why can't the armed
        forces just ask them to fill out an application and hold their
        files as "pending" forever, instead of arresting them and creating
        this media debacle? Secondly, why doesn't the armed forces just send
        them to Iraq and have them cook, or clean up barracks and toilets?
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/22/raging.grannies.ap
        \_ "The group has protested every week for the last three years outside
           the recruitment center."
        \_ "This was not a performance, a joke or civil disobedience," she
           said. "This was an enlistment attempt."  That is total BS.

1/23    Oscar bids for F9/11  = ZERO
        MUWHWHAHAHA..
        \_ Hm, could that be because Moore withheld it from consideration in
           the documentary section?
           \_ Keep drinking the kool-aid , it'll help with the pain of defeat
              \_ How is truth kool-aid?
                 \_ Because it was not, and can not be considered a
                    documentary by any standard.
                    \_ You, and a number of "reports" from conservative
                       sources, make it sound like it was rejected from
                       consideration as a documentary.  You're the one
                       with the kool-aid glass half full..
                    \_ Hence, as poster said, Moore removing it from
                       consideration. Now what kool-aid were you speaking of
                       again? BTW, I thought the movie sucked but you seem to
                       be feigning density and I just wanted to be sure.

11/22   I posted this last week but no one responded (thinking it was
        a HW problem) so I'll ask again: given a group of several
        values, is there a way to evaluate or determine if the variability
        between those numbers are significant or not? And if so, what
        statistical test should be used? Thanks.
        \_ Where did the numbers come from?  Is there an underlying
           stochastic (or otherwise) process you can describe? -- ilyas
                \_ No it's not stochastic. Does it matter, though? Can't
                   you just take the numbers at face value?
                   \_ I don't know what 'variability' means.  If it's a
                      normal distribution from which the numbers come,
                      you can estimate the variance, and that's one
                      notion of 'variability.'  If the process is not
                      stochastic, and has no stochastic interpretation,
                      why are you interested in 'variability'? -- ilyas
                        \_ OK, so I have a series of about 10 numbers.
                           I want to know if they really are the "same"
                           or not. Let's say I had 3.0, 2.9, and 3.1,
                           I want to determine whether they are actually
                           centering around one central value (in this
                           contrived example, 3). Is it enough to calculate
                           the percent change from one number to the next
                           and note that it's low, or is there a more
                           objective statistical test I can use?
                           \_ If you want to quantify how much variation there
                              is in your numbers, there are lots of ways: some
                              common ones are range, sample standard deviation,
                              population standard deviation, and average
                              deviation.  You have to pick an appropriate
                              measure and an appropriate cutoff point for
                              "the same" based on what the numbers mean.
                              Just looking at your numbers above in isolation,
                              you can't say they're the same at all -- say you
                              were measuring the speed of light in different
                              media, in units of 10^8 m/s.  If you got 3.0 for
                              some and 2.9 for others it would conclusively
                              show that the media were different, and if you
                              got 3.1 it would be earth-shattering.  --mconst
                                \_ Well the series of values were taken
                                   from a biological source, where there
                                   actually is some baseline value (in
                                   theory).
                           \_ It's called an average...
                           \_ You can't make something from nothing.  You
                              need to make assumptions about the numbers
                              (if you don't know how you got them), or think
                              about how the numbers are created. -- ilyas
                           \_ I think the problem is that you're looking for
                              a one size fits all solution to a humongous class
                              of problems for which none exists. Why don't
                              you just put the data in /csua/tmp and let us
                              mess around with it?
                           \_ Any series of numbers can be the "same" for some
                              arbitrary distribution.
        \_ GIVE US THE GODDAMN DATA!  And tell us the context.  The whole
           context.  Saying "it's a bunch of numbers" does not constitute
           giving the context, and saying you want to "determine the
           variablility" doesn't really tell us what you want to know.
        \_ You need a statistics education.  The motd cannot help.

11/3    So after all that political advertisements, guess who the real
        winner is? MEDIA COMPANIES. They are like the arms dealer, getting
        rich from both sides. And now that Bush wins a second term, all
        the media corporations will be aligned to the current admin.
        My guess is that the Democratic party will bicker and disintegrate
        in a few years while the one party US will just get bigger and
        bigger. Maybe it'll implode, but that'll not happen for
        many years to come.                     -troll rant dude

9/3     "The order of events is still unclear. But one eyewitness has told
        Russian media that one of the many bombs stuck with tape around the
        gym fell and exploded. The roof caved in and hostages started to run.
        The attackers fired at them as they fled, prompting the troops outside
        to shoot back."
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/world/04/russian_s/html/2.stm
        Outside the school:
        "Evidence suggesting that Russian forces had not planned a storming of
        the building could be seen around the two tanks, whose soldiers milled
        about, evidently in confusion after the initial blast, before rallying
        and heading into a battle that continued this afternoon. Only after
        the fighting began did three helicopters appear overhead. There also
        seemed to be a shortage of ambulances at the scene, as the majority of
        the wounded were ferried in whatever could move."
        link:csua.org/u/8x6 (nytimes.com)

2/27    Oscar predictions?
        \_ No more screeners end up on the internet...
        \_ The burger will be decent but greasy, and the fries bad.
        \_ Will continue being grouchy and living in the trash can.
        \_ Felix will get upset when he messes up the apartment.
        \_ I predict the ceremony will be pompous and boring.
        \_ Pound-for-pound will never again be the best boxer in the world.
        \_ Will remain first name of my bologna.
        \_ The Perl implementation will probably hang around for a long time.
           \_ and... motd is spent.
        \_ A good effort by the Open Cluster Group, but will probably never
           see broad distribtion.
        \_ A sadly underrated vintage '80s synthesizer capable of some truly
           nasty gut-trembling distored bass sounds, the Oscar has seen a
           resurgence of late via emulated software synthesis:
           http://www.gmediamusic.com
           --lye
        \_ His performance on keyboards will be technically proficient but
           lacking in character.

11/1    The Hunt for Iraq's Weapons (David Kay corrects Post
        Writers for misrepresentation).  Note this is on A21, Gellmans
        lead story on front page.
        http://csua.org/u/4v8
        \_ OWNED!
        \_ Yawn.  "I'm sticking by what I wrote in my report!  Much work to
           be done!  Can't draw conclusions yet!  Needle is still in haystack!"
           \_ It's important that the lying media be corrected at every turn.
              The problem is that it's the same media who lied on the front
              page in an above the fold headline that buries the correction
              way back on A21.
              \_ Sure, sure, Jason Blair, yadda yadda yadda.  Got it.  It's
                 important for Kay's credibility, but it doesn't advance the
                 search for WMD.
                 \_ Jason Blair?  Who said anything about Jason Blair?  We're
                    talking media bias, not incompetence.  And it does advance
                    the search to correct the media lies because without the
                    support and correct understanding of the American people
                    we'll pull out before the job is done.  Exactly what your
                    leftist media would like to see happen.

3/26    I am outside the US right now.  Would you guys be interested in
        some other stuff I heard from non-US news media?
        \_ Sure, but what kind of motd poster asks before posting
            contriversial stuff?
           \_ a polite one?  (a polite motd poster??)
        \_ Uhm, sure whatever but it's not like we don't have browsers and
           aren't reading the same stuff you're going to post.  Us poor dumb
           provincials just don't know what's really going on and could use
           the help of European and Arab media to educatin' us!
        \_ Thanks.  BTW we can also get non-US news media on Channels 26 and
           32.

1/18    Perhaps the iPodNG will feature removable media:
        http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,108816,tk,dn011603X,00.asp

12/1    [media liberal bias thread deleted.  the media is biased to favor
        the conservative side.  if you think it is critical of conservatism,
        it is only because the rightists are stupid fascist fuckheads, and
        the media fairly protrays them as such. deal.]
        \_ fuck you.  why don't you just let people debate?  pussy.
        \_Leave it to the leftists to reveal their hypocrisies
          and inconsistencies in the most embarassing fashion....
          you make this too easy.  Bad leftist!
        \_ Ya know I was going to restore the thread but you've done a much
           better job showing the left for what it is than I ever possibly
           could.  Thanks for your help!  --conservative
           \_ q.q.v. the bit about being fascist fuckheads.
              \_ hey if someone on the motd calls me a stupid fascist fuckhead
                 it must be because it's true, right?
        \_ Where is the diversity, love, and peace in this?
           Someone seems very angry.
           \_ his bong ran low and after he came down he looked around and
              noticed jimmy carter wasn't in office anymore and got upset.
              I'll get him some good shit from oakland and put him safely to
              bed after he tokes up again.  no worries.
        \_ Multiple times on this thread I have pointed out, with references,
           how false the conservative statements like "70-80% of all
           reporters are registered Democrats." Everytime, it gets deleted.
           And yet the conservatives still claim they are the ones being
           censored. Ironic, isn't it?

2/12    one oscar to rulez them all!
        \_ Put down the ring and go see Black Hawk Down.

4/12    Who can tell me the atomic weight of bolognium?
        \_ maybe you should look at this hole in ipf?
           http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_04/0087.html
        \_ Oooh... delicious?
           \_ Correct. I would have also accepted snacktacular.
              \_ Gooooo Oscar Meyer!
        \_ You can't beat a Coleco, eh?
           \_ You better get the rust-proofing though.
              \_ Hi, Super Nintendo Chalmers! I'm learn-ding.

1/13    Shockingly biased Palm Beach Post says _Bush_ would have gained more
        votes than Gore if all votes properly counted in Miami-Dade!  I think
        these right wing hacks should be locked up.  The rightward bias in the
        media must stop.  We need new regulations to control the media and
        stop the lies and yellow journalism.
        http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/today/news_2.html

11/17   TV media is reporting that the Texas ballots are 99% *not* punch card
        style ballots so a manual recount makes more sense and isn't prone
        to have hundreds of little bits flying this way and that or being
        manipulated by party partisans.  Anyone have a URL for that?
        \_ URL please.
                \_ Damn.  Learn to read.  I was *asking* for a URL to match
                   what the TV media reported.
        \_ Let's only waste the People's time in states where the elections
           was close.
                \_ Uhm, what's your point?

4/10    From the LA Times today:

        "Stung by the public relations fallout from antitrust investigations
        of its business practices, Microsoft Corp. has secretly been planning
        a massive media campaign designed to influence state investigators by
        creating the appearance of a groundswell of public support for the
        company.

        "The elaborate plan, outlined in confidential documents obtained by
        The Times, hinges on a number of unusual-and some say
        unethical-tactics, including the planting of articles, letters to the
        editor and opinion pieces to be commissioned by Microsoft's top media
        handlers but presented by local firms as spontaneous testimonials."

        More info at:

        http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/UPDATES/lat_microsoft0410.htm
        \_ Does any of this come as a big shock or surprise to anyone here?

        More info at:

        http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/UPDATES/lat_microsoft0410.htm