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| 2009/2/25-3/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Politics/Foreign] UID:52638 Activity:nil |
2/25 Spinoff of the silly food stamp thread below:
The US Recommended Daily Intake values (which the current USRDA is
based on) were developed during WWII. The methodology was to take
"volunteer" subjects (white male conscientious objectors, mostly
Quakers) and put them on nutrient-deprivation diets until their
systems failed. Then they would add the missing nutrient back in
until the systems began to function again. The level of nutrient
required to avoid system failure was then established as the RDI.
These studies did not examine overall health, or long-term
effects of low nutrient levels. What is more, the countries which
have something like the USRDA are in complete disagreement about
their recommendations, which often vary by a factor of 5 or more
from country to country.
So when you look at a food product that claims to provide 100% of
the USRDA of Vitamin C, that means that it contains enough vitamin
C to keep white male Quakers of military age from getting scurvy.
It doesn't say anything about how much vitamin C you should have
for good health. -tom
\_ Ha, that's pretty interesting. Do you have a link?
\_ http://gunpowder.quaker.org/documents/starvation-kalm.pdf
talks about the project but not specifically the implications
for the USRDA. See:
"Keys A, Brozek J, Henschel A, Mickelsen O, Taylor HL:
The biology of human starvation. Minneapolis: University
of Minnesota Press; 1950." -tom |
| 2009/2/19-25 [Finance/Banking, Politics/Foreign] UID:52607 Activity:nil |
2/19 I believe in the latest edition of dictionaries, next to the
definition of "batshit insane" there is a picture of
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-obviously):
http://tinyurl.com/btd698
"We're Running Out Of Rich People In This Country" |
| 2009/1/15-22 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:52388 Activity:nil |
1/15 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review finds (1) a foreign
intelligence exception to the 4th amend.; and (2) that a warrantless
search under FISA is not unreasonable for 4th amend. purposes:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8rg8qj [NYT]
http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/fiscr082208.pdf [opinion] |
| 2008/12/11-16 [Politics/Foreign] UID:52227 Activity:nil |
12/11 ST Undiscovered Country BR to include scenes from Klingon Hamlet:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6gjg7f [sliceofscifi.com] |
| 5/16 |
| 2008/12/1-6 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:52138 Activity:nil |
12/1 http://tinyurl.com/5ldb9c (bloomberg.com) Head NBER fucker from Stanfurd said on 10/8 that economic data are "perplexing" \_ Well, it is pretty perplexing to have the economy growing while the unemployment rate is also increasing. I don't think it has ever happened before, but it is actually a pretty good sign for the long term prosperity of the country, since it means productivity must be jamming. |
| 2008/11/25-12/1 [Politics/Foreign, Computer/Theory] UID:52096 Activity:nil |
11/25 "Study: Math teachers 1 chapter ahead of students"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/ap_on_re_us/qualified_teachers
Our education system in the world's sole super-power country is so
broken.
\_ lollllzzzzzzzzz
\_ God Bless, and free market works. -conservative
\_ Free market gives us private schools
\_ nice socialist bailout yer free market is taking
\_ Banking and mortgages aren't a free market. They are
deeply intertwined with the government (Fed, Fannie/Freddie) |
| 2008/11/6-13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/California/Prop] UID:51866 Activity:low |
11/6 SOCIALNETWORKISM
\_ Yes? What about it? Young people today with nothing to lose
but everything to gain from Socialism, embrace it. We're
tired of having sucky infrastructures and unfairness.
Let us all embrace socialism.
\_ Why do you think they have nothing to lose?
\_ Read Prop 13 history and ramifications
\_ I presume you are free-market type. Please do tell me you
oppose the 700 billion bail out package. Please tell me you
do support the abolishment of
- SEC
- FDIC
- FDA
- minimum wage
- child labor law
- ban on human trafficking
and let the invisible hand does everything.
\_ Excellent straw man sir!
\_ oh yeah? why don't you take a shot at it. Free Market right?
do you support the 700 billion bail out? do you support
government bail out of GM/Ford? do you support government
in effect double our national debt by acquiring AIG (liability
on AIG's book constitute as part of national debt).
Do you support roll back of margin requirement regulations
that imposed by FDR? Do let me know. Because *PERSONALLY*
given the choice of government take over these failed companies
versus just hand out free cash to them with little or no
string attached, I prefer the former. If a company is too big
to fail, then, it's to big. Let it fail as free market
dictate, right?
\_ You know, I'd say 8 of the top 10 nicest countries to
live in in the world are socialist.
\_ Which are the other two? Switzerland and Singapore?
\_ Nicest for who? You need to think about that.
\_ I'm the decider, and I decide what is best for the
country. -GWB
\_ Wow, I think this is the most efficent troll I have ever
seen. Bravo!
\_ Seconded. It takes the Art of Troll to the next level. Kudos!
\_ Key word: socialism
\_ BUD CORT doesn't like your tone. Obviously you've never
\_ BUD CORT doesn't like your tone. Obviously you've never been
served. |
| 2008/9/25-29 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold, Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign] UID:51290 Activity:nil |
9/25 Father abandons 9 children to be cared for by the State of Nebraska:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlZbpXbUt5CbF3Ra6tEc-6uzzToAD93DPJO84 |
| 2008/7/7-9 [Politics/Foreign] UID:50484 Activity:nil |
7/7 Damn those racist babies!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6m2pkn [telegraph]
\_ Ummm, wow. You can turn up your nose to things you don't like,
unless they are from a foreign country, in which case you are
mandated by law to eat them. Awesome.
\_ So, is it racist if a muslim kid refused to eat pork?
\_ "Muslim" is technically a religious affiliation, not a race. But
I'd ask the same question myself.
\_ So there's no chance this quote was pulled out of context and
is totally bullshit. Oh wait, there isn't even a full quote.
But don't let that stop you. |
| 2008/6/11-13 [Politics/Foreign, Reference/RealEstate] UID:50221 Activity:moderate |
6/11 http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/easternsuburbs/story/365899.html Family finds backyard is off-limits because of conservation easement. "Kevin King and his wife, Donna, dream of installing a backyard pool But the young couple got a rude awakening when their pool contractor drove to Lancaster Town Hall to get the construction permit this spring. "That's when the Kings learned for the first time since buying their home in 2003 that they legally have only a 3-footdeep yard in which to build their pool. "Or to enjoy a swing set with their kids, ages 3 and 5. "Or to do much of anything else, it seems. "Turns out the Kings technically aren.t even supposed to mow the grass in their 60-footdeep backyard because of a conservation easement." \_ Gotta love reporters that don't ask questions. Why the hell didn't these people have due diligence done on their property when they bought it? This sort of thing should be in any contract. \_ Yeah, I'm sure the easment was there before they bought the property. \_ Yeah, the easement was there before they bought the property. \_ Srsly. Why is this news? My neighbor when I was growing up had a large easement on his property. It was part of the reason why his lot was bigger than the others for the same price. I forgot why it was there but eventually he got it removed and now his property is worth more. \_ The question was asked in the article. The couple claims they don't recall the paralegal who sold them the house mentioning the easement. They admit to not doing their due diligence in the article. I think the interesting thing here is that the the easement. They admit to not doing their due diligence in the article. I think the interesting thing here is that the easement is completely pointless in this case. \- As associate of an associate of mine bought a house in Los Gatos. It would later turn out the seller paid a nearby autobody shop to close up shop during the buyer's visit. The sale was reversed later on on those grounds. Interesting to note the remedy was an action, not money damages. \_ Totally different case unless you are arguing that the easement was not disclosed which is possible but seems unlikely. |
| 2008/6/6-10 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:50174 Activity:nil |
6/6 Hellooooooo knife control
http://csua.org/u/lps [washington post]
My favorite part is Prime Minister Gordon Brown:
Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Thursday announced a crackdown on
teenagers carrying knives, saying that those as young as 16 will be
prosecuted for knife possession on the first offense. Previously,
anyone younger than 18 generally received only a warning.
"Young people need to understand that carrying knives doesn't protect
you, it does the opposite -- it increases the danger for all of us,
destroys young lives and ruins families," Brown said after meeting with
top police and government officials at his 10 Downing Street office.
"Recent tragic events have reminded us of that."
\_ carrying knives doesn't protect you??!?
\_ what about utility? What self-respecting geek doesn't carry around
a leatherman (or equivalent) today? -ERic
\_ http://www.goxplore.net/guides/Knife_law_(UK
Folding knife < 3 inches long is legal. Having "a good reason"
to have a knife is legal. I'm not defending the law (or
attacking it, it's not my country and I don't really care) but
at least you should know what you are talking about.
\_ In school? At an age of younger than 18? How do they get past
the metal detectors? |
| 2008/5/12-16 [Politics/Foreign] UID:49933 Activity:nil |
5/12 Why is everyone calling it Myanmar? Wasn't that the name given Burma
by the same military junta that's not letting aid in now?
\_ yes.
\_ They aren't. You still see news orginizations calling it Burma all
the time.
\_ Some are some aren't, some are calling it both. If a thuggish
govt. changes the name of a country, should be always continue to
call it by the old name? That seems like an odd policy.
\_ Myanmar is also one of the old names for the region in the
native tongue, according to a knowledgable friend.
\_ Wikipedia weighs in: "Within the Burmese language, Myanmar is
the written, literary name of the country, while Bama or Bamar
(from which "Burma" derives) is the oral, colloquial name. In
spoken Burmese, the distinction is less clear than the English
transliteration suggests."
\_ Calling it Burma strikes terror into the hearts of dictators
everywhere! They'll be a fully democratic country in a matter of
days!
\_ Why worry what Burma wants to be called in English? English has
English-specific names for loads of cities and places, as do
foreign languages for other places. If it was some kind of
insulting name then maybe, but Rangoon vs. Yangon or whatever,
nobody should pay attention to the junta. |
| 2008/5/5 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:49882 Activity:nil |
5/5 10000 dead from one storm:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505/ap_on_re_as/myanmar_cyclone |
| 2008/4/4-9 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:49668 Activity:nil |
4/4 jrleek, please tell us about the job you love, and if you guys
are hiring. I'm fed up with big companies, big beauracracy, big
politics and most importantly the lack of career growth in big
ass places.
\_ Maybe you are just a crank.
\_ If you want details, post your name or email me. Anyway
I work at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, we're not
hiring, and it doesn't sound like you'd like it anyway.
It's a big beauracracy. -jrleek
\_ Why do you enjoy working at a place that you recognize
is a big beauracracy? Is it the prestige, the bragging
right that you're working on something secretive, that
you're doing something good for our country (I LOVE AMERICA)
or something else? Just curious.
\_ Your assumption that big beaurocracy = bad in all situations
may be fallacious. -not jrleek
\_ Sorry, I think it's extremely rude to call someone
out by name without posting your own. Post your name
or email me. -jrleek
\_ Bravo!
\_ jrleek is awesome, but I would not want his job. -vallard
\_ That's ok, I don't want your job either. -jrleek |
| 2008/3/19-21 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:49502 Activity:nil |
3/19 McCain's foreign policy bumbling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ykntCXZcE |
| 2008/2/26-29 [Politics/Foreign] UID:49252 Activity:nil |
2/25 You know, no one disputes the economic power and efficiency of the
free market. Adam Smith wrote the Wealth of Nations way before
the term monopoly and corporate clout/abuse became common. Just
Google for articles on why free-market doesn't work the way it
did in the 18th-19th century; meritocracy is non-existence in the
absence of competition. I will however buy the Division of Labour
argument, Labour theory of value, price of commodities, etc. In
short I find both the free-market and the centralized-market theory
incomplete, inefficient, and unfit in the complex world we have
today. There needs to be a balance of both, or an alternative economy. |
| 2007/12/15-20 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:48813 Activity:low |
12/15 http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/15/military.gambling/index.html Military Slot Machines make $130mil/year from its soldiers to pay for things army can't pay for. \_ Our education system is paid for by lottery also. \_ This country is endlessly willing to take advantage of the weak/stupid -- witness our tolerance for predatory lending. And we don't even bother teaching people the financial ramifications in school anymore. What's more, we even made bankruptcy more difficult. Most people who end up in bankruptcy suffered from a medical emergency, or got divorced. Now we make it even more difficult for such people to recover--in the name of more profit for the already rich. What a generous Christian country we are! \_ Nice troll. Are you also against freedom to smoke and freedom to gamble? \_ How about being against manipulating nicotine levels to hook people without informing that nicotine was as addictive as heroin? How about being against not warning tobacco companies' victims that smoking causes cancer and emphysema, even if TC's knew it, but rather lying about those even if TC's knew it knew it, but rather lying about those two things? How about setting up slot machines with a .25 payout without saying so? Are you glad that Government forced regulation on industry in those instances? Now how about some regulations on predatory lending? \_ "Predatory lending". Pft. Everything is right there in front of the people signing. I didn't have a single finance class of \_ yes, but how many of them understand it and the real ramifications? Do you think it's OK for smart people to take advantage of stupid ones? Morally OK? Granted, government can't protect stupid people from themselves and all of the unscrupulous smart people, but right now government is aiding and abetting the bastards who're taking advantage of the stupid. You know, these contracts aren't really clear, they should read: "I know I am signing a contract which is likely to screw me over a few years down the road". screw me over a few years down the road". Much like the warnings on cigarette labels: "Warning: product causes cancer." \_ Best Troll Evar! any sort K-12+College but I still managed to figure out that an \_ congratulations, you're not stupid! Now how would you feel if by a combination of having been born stupid and having been taken advantage of by someone smarter than you, that you lost your house? Do you think that some divine right exists for smart people to screw stupid ones over? Now, do you think you're smarter than every possible bastard who would exploit your ignorance in some area to dispossess you for his benefit? ARM is incredibly risky, *requires* a refi before the rates go up and managed to figure out that the 40 year historic lows in the lending market were not going to stay that way forever. That's a totally different issue from the bakruptcy laws, medical or divorce induced financial collapse, etc. No one knows they're going to get sick but most people do have insurance and everyone knows they will get sick at some point. Divorce laws are just broken. |
| 2007/10/30-11/2 [Politics/Foreign] UID:48488 Activity:nil |
10/29 Does mysql TEXT field accept UTF-8 and foreign stuff? -learning
\_ UTF-8, yes. "Foreign stuff" means nothing to me. |
| 2007/8/31-9/3 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:47846 Activity:nil |
8/31 Awesome editorial cartoon on the Opus controversy
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/001189.html
\_ Is this old news? This seems like it is years old.
Maybe it's not. Inflammatory Islam cartoon is so old
and boring.
\_ The opus thing is current.
\_ Correction: boring editorial cartoon on WaPo's ridiculous
decision. The original Opus cartoon is much better:
http://csua.org/u/jf7 (Salon.com, free) |
| 2007/7/25-27 [Politics/Foreign] UID:47421 Activity:nil |
7/25 Hugo Chavez would be funny if he he wasn't running a country
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290337,00.html
\_ Having visited Venezuela, I can safely say it's a prime
example why commies should never ever ever ever ever be
put in charge of anything. Ever. -John
\_ Chavez: driving home to modern leftists what Stalin taught our
philosophical forebearers in the 30s-50s: the enemy of your
enemy is not your friend. |
| 2007/6/29-7/1 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47126 Activity:nil |
6/29 Hi I'm lazy, do my work for me. Is it true that the government's
official 9/11 report completely refrains from mentioning
WTC Building 7?
I was reading http://www.patriotsquestion911.com ,
which doesn't appear to be populated by the raving tinfoil
hat crowd. Maybe the ex military retired tinfoil hat crowd.
\_ Yes, it was all an inside job by the competent Bush administration
with the help of TEH JOOS as commanded by His High Lord Elvis and
His Right Paw Of Greatness, Bigfoot. There is no truth to the
rumors that Area 51 and the Greys were involved.
\_ I have not been able to find any information that is was
not deliberately brought down by demolition. Also, it appears
there were highly-sensitive gov't offices in that building.
Keep digging deeper and you may come to understand who
controls the political and economic power structure in this
country, parallels with the Weimar republic. |
| 2007/6/10-13 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:46903 Activity:nil |
6/10 Colin Powell joins the chorus asking to shut down Gitmo:
http://www.csua.org/u/ivw
\_ Please clarify - he is not talking about the base, just the
prison. We need the base to invade Cuba when Fidel keels over
\_ Please drop the intentional obtuseness. |
| 2007/5/2 [Politics/Foreign] UID:46501 Activity:nil |
5/1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbTO0GlONU |
| 2007/4/27-5/1 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign] UID:46462 Activity:nil |
4/27 Walmart building its own private CIA:
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8ON2P400.htm |
| 2006/12/25-26 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign] UID:45493 Activity:high |
12/25 R.I.P. James Brown
\_ http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/bnames-nf/Brown+James
http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/021215godfather.htm
\_ He was already dead in 1991 (his music style, that is)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr_6q9DcSiM
\_ "Brown was one of the first artists inducted into the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame, along with Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry and
other founding fathers."
"Disco is James Brown, hip-hop is James Brown, rap is James
Brown;"
http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12176089 |
| 2006/11/17-21 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:45349 Activity:nil |
11/17 <DEAD>cusa.com<DEAD>? Is the kchang's site? I think http://cusa.org has a better interface, but this is nice. \_ It's ausman's site. \_ This one is more authentic. |
| 2006/11/6-7 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign] UID:45187 Activity:nil |
11/6 Good grief: China's foreign reserves top $1 trillion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6120906.stm -John
\_ Why don't they spend some of that money on their POS country?
The place is a cesspool, but it's all good because they are
sitting on $1 T cash.
\_ If they were to spend it, it would be on military spending
They have been increasing their annual military spending by
double-digit percentages for many years.
\_ Agreed. Also, remember that the PRC is an oligarchy, not a
democracy. Benefits are doled out as rewards for service to
the party, not on the basis of need.
\_ Maybe they should focus on their polluted, shithole country.
\_ the #1 rule in China is stability
\- i'm trying to stay out of these kinds of discussions
beyond leaving ptrs. if you are interested in this
and related topics, see:
http://www.frbsf.org/economics/pbc/index.html
(teh "pacific basin notes" are pretty accessible)
the feds will also send you all of their publications
the fed res bank will also send you all of their publications
for free. obtrivia: Janet Yellin of ucb dept econ is the head
of the SF fed. she is also married to ucb econ nobel
george akerlof. |
| 2006/11/3 [Politics/Foreign, Reference/Religion] UID:45128 Activity:nil |
11/2 In what can only be described as a surprise move, God has
officially announced His candidacy for the U.S. presidency. During
His press conference today, the first in over 4000 years, He is quoted
as saying, "I think I have a chance for the White House if I can just
get my campaign pulled together in time. I'd like to get this country
turned around; I mean REALLY turned around! Let's put Florida up
north for awhile, and let's get rid of all those annoying mountains
and rivers. I never could stand them!"
There apparently is still some controversy over the Almighty's
citizenship and other qualifications for the Presidency. God replied
to these charges by saying, "Come on, would the United States have
anyone other than a citizen bless their country?" |
| 2006/10/4-6 [Recreation/Media, Politics/Foreign] UID:44672 Activity:nil |
10/4 Screech my name!
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/456179p-383834c.html |
| 2006/9/7-12 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:44306 Activity:nil |
9/7 Excellent 10 page article on the US/Mexico border. Read before jerking
that knee, no matter what side you think that you're on.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2006/09/exodus.html
\_ That article's got more spin then the ball at a globetrotters game.
\_ Care to cite an example?
\_ "economic theology", "brown invasion" these terms carry
a great deal more than information on the condition of
the border and enforcement.
\_ "We worry about nuclear weapons that are not controlled by
white people" |
| 2006/8/23-26 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign] UID:44117 Activity:kinda low |
8/23 http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-radio20aug20,0,5923744.story?coll=la-home-entertainment "Country music promotes patriotism and family values, and they've replaced it with something [hip-hop and hop] that just promotes money and hate." "If radio executives can focus on urban and Latino listeners, why can't they focus on white America?" \_ Because that's not politically correct. \_ Bullshit. It's because young white America is listening to hip hop and sporting bling. \_ The invisible hand of the free market is at work. \_ Yeah, no shit. News flash: with a few fringe exceptions, white America's music sucks ass. People all over the world have gotten into hip hop, both in terms of spending large sums of money on American music and making their own. "White America" buys more hip hop than anyone, and yet getting anyone who isn't a white American in a very specific educational and economic set to buy a country music album will simply never happen. \_ Your love of country music seriously undermines your credibility as a 'music critic'. \_ Kenny Rogers was very famous in Hong Kong two decades ago. He even held some big sold-out concerts. So was John Denver. Glen Campbell was famous there three decades ago when I was a little kid. \_ Please don't call this P.Diddy, 50 cent crap that white Americans listen to "hip hop." It's [c]rap. \_ Isn't like 50% of country music "my woman done left me"? \_ It's more like "my mom/sis/gf done left me and I miss *her*". \_ "...And then I lost my Job." \_ And crashed my pickup truck into my dog and totalled both \_ In the rain \_ I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison And I went to pick her up in the rain But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck She got runned over by a damned old train. \_ It ain't country if there isn't a train somewhere |
| 2006/7/10-11 [Politics/Foreign] UID:43619 Activity:nil |
7/10 http://www.greenlagirl.com "It's not easy being green: fair trade coffee, local politics, and ethical consumerism in Los Angeles." \_ I liked it. You are stupid. Keira Knightley is still flat. \_ Huh? |
| 2006/5/4-6 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:42928 Activity:nil |
5/4 Bored: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=10261089081449493081 Grammar/spelling test. I think there's one wrong on this but I can't figure out which it is. Anyone? It's driving me nuts. -John \- caveat browser: they ask a bunch of personal questions before giving you the results. the test claims i missed one too and i am pretty sure i didnt. this is not a good test. if you dont know the answers to a fair number of these you are simply an idiot. it would be like giving a geography test and asking "what countries are the following cities in: london, paris, berlin, ouagadougou." the distrubution will not have good distribution properties. i think the only goo question was the desserts/desert one. the economist grammar or usage test is a pretty good one. like what is the difference between "i read the article on google in the last/latest issue of the e'ist." ok tnx. --psb berlin, ouagadougou." the results will not have good distribution properties. the only thing it answers is "are you a moron, are you a regular person, or are you one of the few people who know where ouagadougou is". i think the only good question was the desserts/desert one. the economist grammar or usage test is a pretty good one. e.g. what is the difference between "i read the article on google in the last/latest issue of the e'ist." ok tnx. --psb \_ You don't actually have to fill in the personal info. Just click the Next button and leave that stuff blank. \_ Yeah, ditto here--I am positive I got 30/30, went over it very carefully and cannot find the one that's causing 29/30. It's not a good test in any case (and for the data farming, use mailinator) but I just want to know whether one of the answers is wrong or whether it's a scoring glitch (or intentional, as it _is_ a dating site.) -John \- oh i didnt know what kind of "cite" it was. i just entered some random info and was wondering why they wanted all that. i think the error mighyt be with the brit spelling of caret. or maybe he got the dessert/desert one wrong. karat/caret. or maybe he got the dessert/desert one wrong. anybody who believes some of those questions are reasonable seems suspect. if you judge people by the company they keep do you know anybody who would get less than 25 on that test? do you know anybody who would get less than 20 on that test? (excusing non-native speakers ... it might be a decent ESL test). presumably he does. general observation: i think you can quite easily tell petty grammarians from people with really good and deep understanding of language. the good people come up with good examples of why agreement to subject/object or other subtle distinctions are important ["john has more friends than me/i"]. while they lamers just relish in berating people. this is a good example of what i mean: http://www.newyorker.com/printables/critics/040628crbo_books1 i also remember talking to a woman who i think was ABD in english and was harshing on the poor writing of attornies at the law firm where her job was to edit these letters. at the law firm where her job was to edit their writing. she seems to have trouble following "lack of care" != "lack of knowledge". i.e. it probably made economic sense not ot have +$300/hr attorney's running spell check and it was better to pay an unemployed english MA 1/8th the salary to make those kinds of corrections. \_ It's not the carat/karat thing and I don't have the patience to go through every conceivable permutation, I'm more curious about whether, this being a dating site/cite, the script purposely auto-deducts a point from every 30/30, whether it does so from all scores, if it's just a flaw, whatever. Idle curiosity is all. -John <<<<<<< Other Changes Below \_ <summary: mice is stupid> \_ I thought "desserts" was colloquially accepted? I used mice's ("dessert") and got 29. Care to write down your answers somewhere? -John \_ see above summary...mice != 30/30. \_ Ah, the you answered 30/30 questions thing? -John \_ Heh, yeahhh. Lack of sleep, too many drugs, recovering from brain surgery, distracted by french foreign exchange student roommate, etc..... \_ I managed to walk away with 30/30. -mice \- what did you put for dessert/desert? \_ dessert. *shrug* -mice \- that is wrong. as i imagined the author of the quiz is leem. desert doenst just mean a hot and sandy place but also from the same root as "deserve". 29 > 30. --psb \_ Huh, that's interesting. Colloquial usage doesn't seem to be in agreement with this, but I suppose that's the sort of conflict inherent in a living, evolving language. I'll have to keep that in mind. Thanks, psb! -mice \_ Actually, I think both options (as they're presented) are wrong. -mice ======= \_ Whoever overwrote mice's posts, fuck you. It was interesting. -John >>>>>>> Your Changes Above \_ I got 29/30 but then I now noticed that #24 is talking about oxen. I didn't really read it before and chose the wrong one. The one with "voila" seems arguable though. \_ What did you think #24 was talking about? And what's arguable about "voila"? Lack of diacritics? \_ I thought it was a simple spelling question or something. (dealing with eggs) I dunno I was racing through it. And yeah the diacritic. \_ Okay, I managed to get 30/30. As for "just desserts": http://www.snopes.com/language/notthink/deserts.htm Do you want me to post my answers? |
| 2006/5/3 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:42924 Activity:nil |
5/3 What GWB has to say about today's trial:
"Our cause is right, and the outcome is certain:
Justice will be served. Evil will not have the
final say. This great Nation will prevail." -GWB |
| 2006/5/3-4 [Politics/Foreign, Finance/Investment] UID:42910 Activity:nil |
5/3 Government getting in the way of free trade, *again*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060503/wr_nm/telecoms_ftc_dc_1 |
| 2006/4/5-7 [Politics/Foreign] UID:42675 Activity:nil |
4/5 Run your own virtual country:
http://nationstates.net
\_ civ1,2,3,4
\_ Check it out, man. It's not comparable to civ.
\_ Check it out, man. It's not really comparable to civ.
\_ Ok I started this but it seems kind of pointless. I don't feel
involved. I guess I'm supposed to come up with the most clever
flag/name/motto and make cute forum posts. Oh well, at least it
requires minimal effort.
\_ This is, what, three years old? Also, it's amusing, but it grows
old quick. Better effort would have resulted in online Diplomacy. |
| 2006/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign] UID:42506 Activity:moderate |
3/28 http://www.brentwoodcc.net I'm trying to get more information on Brentwood Country Club. How much is the club due? I can't find this info anywhere. Thanks. \_ If you have to ask... \_ Why don't you call them and ask? \_ I'm just doing some research and have no desire to join. I don't want to ask because they might find out that I'm a minority AND a poor ass student AND a non-resident of Brentwood, any one of which would disqualify me as a member. -op \_ In point of fact, I called, and they don't give that info out over the phone. They also don't discuss the membership process over the phone. You're welcome to try talking to Rosemary Bryan, the Director of Membership, for more information if you like. To be honest, I think you have a better chance of joining the Bohemian Grove. \_ THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! May I ask how you asked them, and if the person you talked to sounded like a snob? I guess they really want to make sure if you qualify or not. While you're at it, can you also please call the Riviera Country Club 1/2 mile to the west of Brentwood Country Club, the Bel Air Country Club a mile north, the Los Angeles Country Club 2 miles to the east, and the Hillcrest Country Club 1/2 more mile east? They seem to hide the membership info pretty well. This is for a research project. Thanks so much!!! \_ THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! May I ask how you asked them, and if the person you talked to sounded like a snob? I guess they really want to make sure if you qualify or not. While you're at it, can you also please call the Riviera Country Club 1/2 mile to the west of Brentwood Country Club, the Bel Air Country Club a mile north, and the Los Angeles Country Club 2 miles to the east? They seem to hide the membership info pretty well. This is for a research project. Thanks so much!!! \_ I called the number on the website and said I had recently moved to Brentwood (lie), that I was thinking about joining, and what were the dues? The woman who answered (receptionist, at a guess) transferred me to another woman who sounded eager to get my phone number so that their Director of Membership could call me back ("She just stepped into a meeting."); when I asked about the membership application process, she actually apologized for sounding so secretive. And while I wish you luck with this project, I'm sorry to say that I don't have the time to participate further. Do let us know how it goes. \_ Dude needs to learn how to use the phone himself. |
| 2006/3/25-27 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:42424 Activity:nil |
3/24 http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/03/24/graceland.landmark.ap Elvis' home to be designated national landmark. Ah, you Sillymericans |
| 2006/2/23-27 [Politics/Foreign] UID:41973 Activity:nil |
2/23 Australian PM: "We are the least discriminatory country in the world."
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/02/23/1140670205134.html
\_ John Howard: putting the face on faceless, utterly unironic
bureaucrat. This would be sad if it were not so absurd and
demonstrably incorrect.
\_ after four decades of cultural genocide? |
| 2006/2/21-23 [Transportation/Car, Politics/Foreign] UID:41940 Activity:kinda low |
2/21 Go to Google News and put in "Ferrari" + "Malibu"
Then look at these:
http://www.postwhore.biz/albums/userpics/10061/Ferrari%20_1_.jpg
http://www.postwhore.biz/albums/userpics/10061/Ferrari%20_10_.jpg
http://www.postwhore.biz/albums/userpics/10061/Ferrari%20_2_.jpg
http://www.postwhore.biz/albums/userpics/10061/Ferrari%20_3_.jpg
\_ I like the part where it says the driver ran away (passenger stayed)
and the car may have been registered in a foreign country.
Passenger identified as "Stefan Erikssen, of Bel-Air", and
investigators believe the driver was alone and was racing ...
\_ Wow, lucky guys.
\_ Money quote: '"You pay a million bucks for a car, you expect
safety," Brooks said.'
\_ Did Brooks mean he thinks the two survived because of the $1M
car's safety features rather than pure luck?
\_ Anyone would be stupid to think that they survived because of
the $1M car's safety features rather than pure luck.
\_ It certainly looks like the safety features worked well.
\_ I like how the news video starts with "Fatal Crash" in the bottom
info bar and as it progresses and they say "from the air it didn't
look like anyone could have survived that, but now it appears both
occupants did" and the infobar changes to "Malibu Crash" or something
like that. Heh.
occupants did" and the infobar changes to "Malibu Crash" or some-
thing like that. Heh. |
| 2006/2/8-10 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:41773 Activity:low |
2/8 http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/08/technology/yahoo_china/index.htm YHOO more fucked up than GOOG "The choice is not whether to comply with law enforcement demands for information. The choice is whether to remain in the country. We believe that the Internet is a positive force in China." -Mary Osako, Yahoo! Director of Communications \_ What don't you agree with in that quote? That makes sense to me... I'm not talking about the case as a whole, just that quote. --dbushong \_ Well, I think it would have been more honest of Ms. Osako to say: "By complying with law enforcement demands, we can remain in the country, and we believe that Yahoo!'s presence is a positive force in China." What she has said reeks of dishonesty and marketing bullshit, IMO. \_ ...if you say so. \_ Do you expect them to say the really honest thing "By complying with law enforcement demands, we can remain in country X, and we believe that Yahoo!'s presence in country X is going to bring in huge profits for the company. If it just so happens that Yahoo!'s presence is a positive force in country X, that's good."? \_ nah, i like my quote better. it offers the "hope" of being honest \_ i want a plausible lie, not one that says, "you fucks, why are you making me lie, i'm going to say something ridiculous so you know i'm lying" |
| 2006/1/6-9 [Politics/Foreign] UID:41278 Activity:nil |
1/6 You only think you want to live in the country. Some people suffer
from the mistaken belief that they want to live on acreage far from
city life, a la Green Acres. Some years ago one of my Tucson, Ariz.,
in-town neighbors did just that. She sold her home and bought
another home in the desert. Communing with nature was fine until a
country coyote ate her city dog that took a lot of the glamour away
from the rural life. I've recently made friends with a couple who
emigrated to Tucson as retirees from Florida. They, too, thought they
wanted the romance of the rural home life away from it all. But now
they want to move into town. There is nothing to do at home in the
country, they say, and even as retirees, they dislike the commute
to do fun stuff in town. They are far enough out that even grocery
shopping is an expedition. --Christina B. Farnsworth
\_ I went to Tuscon once. Living in Tucson itself is already like
living in the country compared to the sf bay area. Living "outside"
a place like Tuscon might as well be the moon. |
| 2005/12/29-2006/1/1 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:41167 Activity:nil |
12/29 http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/dunne/episodes/scandal.html More proof that justice = power + privilege. \_ Why did you post this in a new thread when it's mentioned not a page down? \_ because those that have power + privileges deserve more attention on motd? \_ heh, I read the article as "Her lavish estate in Virginia's exclusive Hunt Country was a refuge for the shy woman and her beloved penises." |
| 2005/12/22-23 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:41114 Activity:kinda low |
12/21 Liberty is dead. All voice, email and most likely fax and data are
being monitored: http://csua.org/u/eeq
\_ Thank you peterl. You're now on my watch list. -Big Bro
\_ Hmm, maybe you should use the NSA's technology so you
will get the right username next time. --peterl
\_ Very well. Thank you peterl. You're on my watch list now -NSA
\_ Ever hear of Echelon? Liberty has been dead for a long time.
\_ God damn, what is the login you use for the post?
\_ http://bugmenot.com
\_ You don't need a login. Is this a ploy to prevent people
from reading the article? |
| 2005/12/13-15 [Computer/SW/Database, Politics/Foreign] UID:40985 Activity:nil |
12/13 MySQL PHP admin generates the entity relationship diagram as
PDF. How does it know what the foreign keys are, and where
can I find that out? The export of DDL doesn't seem to show
foreign keys of this database that I'm trying to understand
but the ER diagram shows them.
\_ IIRC you need to tell it about the linkages (phpmyadmin) and it
stores them in a metainfo table.
\_ SHOW TABLE STATUS has fk constraints in the columns.
SHOW CREATE TABLE foo \G
shows it in a more readable format.
\_ Right, but that only works for InnoDB tables that actually
support foreign keys.
\_ I was under the mistaken impression that myisam would record
the constraint but not actually enforce the constraint. But
why are you using MyISAM?
\_ MySQL supports Foreign Keys? |
| 2005/12/8-11 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign] UID:40928 Activity:nil |
12/8 Lawyer for 13 GTMO detainees filed a petition Mar 11 2005
http://csua.org/u/e85 (latimes.com)
"Falkoff's petition quoted a section of the memo, but the quotation was
blacked out in the unclassified version...Falkoff's interpretation...:
'The government believes that Mr. Ahmad has information that it wants
but that it cannot extract without torturing him.' ... because torture
is not allowed at Guantanamo, 'the recommendation is that Mr. Ahmad
should be sent to another country where he can be interrogated under
torture.'"
"Falkoff's description was not disputed by U.S. government lawyers or
by U.S. District Judge Rosemary M. Collyer, who read the actual
Pentagon document. The judge ruled in favor of the Yemenis on March 12
..."
\_ The LA Times has been found to be insufficiently patriotic and
therefore in league with Emmanuel Goldstein.
\_ Another violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. |
| 2005/11/23-26 [Politics/Foreign, Computer/Theory] UID:40719 Activity:nil |
11/23 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051123/ap_on_re_us/southern_identity_accents Ooooh I've always had uninflected tone that oozes authority and refinement and I didn't even know it. Maybe I'll impress hot southern belle when I go to the south. \_ why the sarcasm? are you telling me you can take people with southern accents seriously? |
| 2005/11/16 [Politics/Foreign] UID:40616 Activity:nil |
11/15 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175678,00.html Lawsuit Charges Md. MVA Denies Immigrants Driver's Licenses -jblack |
| 2005/11/13-15 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:40569 Activity:nil |
11/11 http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1510519/posts Jobs program tries to discourage immigration to U.S. -jblack |
| 2005/10/29-31 [Recreation/Activities, Politics/Foreign] UID:40335 Activity:kinda low |
10/29 Great bit of irony. In responce to the Libby indictment, Bush said
"I got a job to do and so do the people that work in the
White House. We've got a job to protect the American people
and that's what we'll continue working hard to do. . . "
As soon as he finished his comments, he went on vacation.
\_ Hehe, that's funny! I'm sure when the POTUS is on vacation he
just stops running the country and talking business and oh wait,
sorry.
\_ Are you really so far gone you can't laugh at this?
\_ "Stops" running the country? You mean you think he started?
\_ stops running the country into the ground.
\_ was he the same guy who said he is going to bring "honor and
integrety to the whitehouse?" |
| 2005/10/15 [Politics/Foreign, Recreation/Humor] UID:40107 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto |
10/14 Another Jib Jab on foreign imports and outsourcing:
http://www.jibjab.com/Movies/MoviePlayer.aspx?contentid=122
\_ keywords: Walmart BoxMart Box Mart |
| 2005/10/9-11 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:40031 Activity:very high |
10/9 got a speeding ticket.. a while back someone posted a
website for a school on east bay that is easy or online..
what was it? thanks
\_ http://traffic101.com is easy and online --dbushong
\_ they're morons. they ask for a state first.. then
ask for a country after you pick the state....?
\_ ...they were relatively inexpensive, you don't have to go
in to a physical testing center, and the test was pretty easy.
I wouldn't discount them solely on suboptimal interface design.
--dbushong
\_ There's nothing wrong with the interface design. It's
"county" not "country" which makes sense that they ask
you after the state.
\_ why do people go to traffic school? the points still appear on your
record and raise your insurance rates. it only matters if you got
so many you might lose your license, right?
\_ wrong, the points don't appear. the catch is that you can't
attend traffic school more than twice in an 18-month period.
\_ even then you can still appear before a judge and cry and
get multiple chances to keep going to TS to avoid more points
or having your license revoked. there was someone in my TS
session a few year ago who said she was one point from losing
hers (8 i think to lose it) and had been to traffic school
*several* times in the last year alone. fear. stay off the
streets if you want to survive with people like that around.
\_ Getting points is different than driving dangerously. I
have seen people driving below the speed limit who were
driving more dangerously than people who exceeded the
limit. Case in point, German drivers tend to drive much
faster than Americans but suffer fewer fatalities.
\_ uhm, yeah.... Points are for driving dangerously.
Where do I mention anything about the woman's speed?
I said she had a lot of points. Points are not just
for going over the speed limit. *boggle*
\_ hi mudder!
\_ Police in the US have a lot of leeway to give
tickets based on subjective criteria, which is why
you have recourse mechanisms such as going to
court. -John
\_ dura lex, sed lex
\_ OK wiseass, so where do you draw the line
between the law and its application? I.e.
do you believe in a 100% literal
application of the law (cop gives you a ticket
even though there's a burglary down the
street, because hey, you're breaking the law)?
Hey, sed lex, right? The law must always be
obeyed, citizen. Always! -John |
| 2005/10/4-6 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:39973 Activity:nil |
10/4 Apparently for real. Pig images banned in British workplace:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005450600,00.html
\_ While in the USA, we are promoting pig images: http://www.energyhog.org
It's like Smokey Bear or McGruff the Crime Dog, if bears were
setting fires and dogs were selling crack and pimping hos.
\_ Are they going to ban veils also, because it represents oppressions
on females which offends feminism?
\_ Are they going to ban veils also, because it represents oppression
on females which offends feminists?
\_ So muslims think that *images and symbols* of pigs are unclean? I
can understand them not wanting pigs running around in the office,
or any kind of farm animal in general. I wouldn't want that either.
\_ I suspect there is more to the story than written.
\_ Jews don't like pigs either, right?
\_ But Chinese people love pigs.
\_ All minorities are equal, but some minorities are more
equal than others.
\_ http://dutchreport.blogspot.com/2005/02/dutch-flag-prohibited.html
\_ ack, wtf?
\- i think an interesting show down would be over the
hindu swastika vs. say jewish sentiments. the swastika
is a really important hindu symbol, not a marginal one.
it's used in the design for lots and lots of things and
you'll even see it incorportated into say a sari design.
\_ Yeah, it certainly shows up in a lot of Buddhist
stuff. It's all over Korea because of that. I
remember when I came back my brother had a cartoon
on his wall making fun of Nazis, who were
represented as a swastika. My first thought was,
"Geez, what 'cha got against Buddhists?" -jrleek
\_ The Nazi's usually use the right-facing swastika while
the left-facing one is used in Buddhism. |
| 2005/10/3-5 [Politics/Foreign] UID:39969 Activity:nil |
10/3 "Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall
be unfurled, there will [America's] heart, her benedictions and her
prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is
the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the
general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant
sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under
other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign
independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of
extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual
avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the
standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would
insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the
dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own
spirit..." --John Quincy Adams, 1821
\_ The Prime Directive!
\_ I'm waiting for the day when the conservatives start telling us
that the founding fathers were full of shit. Then we'll know
that it's over.
\_ What? Apparently you either flunked or never took a good course
on American History. The founding fathers were in general
isolationist (at least in theory). You can reference Washington's
farewell address or Jefferson's inaugral address as case and
point. Initially this notion extended over the original
colonies, but obviously didn't hold water with the Louisianna
Purchase and the concept of Manifest Destiny. A reinterpretation
came essentially with the Monroe Doctrine in which this
"isolationism" was extended to not only the continental U.S.
but the Americas in general. As for isolationism in the modern
day context it is all but a dead concept, especially since
WWII. Anyway, taking quotes out of context is always fun, but
makes for crappy public policy (q.v. "axis of evil").
\_ you are saying not invading another country is consider
a policy of isolationism?
\_ Healthy Forests, Clear Skies, Aggressive Isolationism!
\_ Thanks, I took AP History in highschool too.
\_ god damn it, I was never qualified to take AP classes |
| 2005/8/29-30 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39336 Activity:nil |
8/29 Church says God is punishing American soldiers for
defending a country that harbors gays. God Bless. Amen.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050828/ap_on_re_us/soldier_funeral_protests
\_ Sheesh, yes these guys are disgusting. They're fairly famous
for it. Just generically calling them a church is somewhat
disingenuous IMO. Their webpage: http://www.godhatesfags.com |
| 2005/8/17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Foreign] UID:39153 Activity:nil |
8/17 "President Clinton is once again releasing American military
might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no
exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this
operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed
forces about how long they will be away from home. These
strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) |
| 2005/8/9-11 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:39066 Activity:nil |
8/9 News media save lives of sailors on Russian mini-sub
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/russiamilitary
"When the worried family tried to find out from the navy what the
chances were of seeing their loved one again, a military psychologist
arrived. 'This is Russia -- pray!' he told Miloshevsky's wife Yelena"
\_ This is a very heartening story that illustrates the importance
of a free press. Thanks for sharing. |
| 2005/7/18-19 [Politics, Politics/Foreign] UID:38691 Activity:nil |
7/18 OMG LOL WTF: Rupert Murdoch's News Corp buys Myspace for $580m
http://csua.org/u/cqz (telegraph.co.uk) |
| 2005/7/13-14 [Politics/Foreign, Computer/SW/Security, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:38600 Activity:nil |
7/13 http://csua.org/u/cp6 (findlaw.com) "Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both." ... so, what do you think? I don't see "name" in the above, just "identifies", so I guess it depends on what the meaning of "identifies" is. A lot of it is also intent and foreknowledge. \_ Rove's claim that "I didn't know her name" is totally irrelevant. Identifying someone as "his wife" uniquely establishes her identity, except possibly in Utah. |
| 2005/6/27-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Politics/Foreign] UID:38317 Activity:low |
6/27 Has anyone been lucky enough to get to play a preview/beta version
of Battlefield 2? What are your thoughts? Is it better than
Battlefield Vietnam or 1942? "In Battlefield 2, players will choose
to fight for one of three military superpowers: the United States,
the Chinese, or the newly formed Middle East Coalition."
\_ May I humbly suggest you try out Forgotten Hope? I am really
looking forward to their BF:2-based version. It's the best mod
I've seen yet. -John
\_ I tried it without ever seeing BV or 1942. Way too complicated.
Way too much loading time. I uninstalled the demo pretty quick.
\_ Try the demo. Much better than BF:V. Memory hog though.
--paulwang
\_ Its the best thing since sliced bread, and more addictive.
Way better than previous Battlefields, with the new dimension of
squads, so there is a big push for teamwork now. Loading time
only happens when loading the level. This game is a resource hog
though, even more than HL2. Downsides: Snipers got nerfed big
time, and often require 2-3 shots to take someone down. Reloading
time seems a lot longer too. If you are at all interested, get
the demo. -rollee
\_ Is that 2-3 head shots, or just anywhere shots? I think
recently snipers have been way too powerful in many games.
My favorite example is AvP2, where the tougher aliens could
take 5 anti-tank rockets to the head, but one sniper bullet
kills them.
\_ According to the forums, headshots are not instant kills. |
| 2005/6/22-25 [Politics/Foreign, Academia/GradSchool] UID:38239 Activity:nil |
6/21 So I'm in my late 20s and I've noticed that many of the nerdy,
awkward, and unpopular kids in HS have turned quite successful.
Many of them are doctors and lawyers. On the other hand, many
of the popular kids are now doing menial jobs. For example one is
still doing retail and the other one doing import/export crap.
Is this odd, or do you guys think there's a logical explanation?
\_ I think this depends very strongly on where you went to highschool.
All the really popular kids in my highschool went to college, most
to top colleges, and an irritatingly large fraction are now lawyers.
I had quite a few friends in highschool, but I think if any one of
the people I knew who were happy and successful at my highschool
had gone to a typical middle America football-first type school
we'd be hated because of being different. In highschool, normal=
popular, and in America at large ignorant=normal.
\_ Lots of lawyers because those people drank their way through
college while pursuing a degree in anthropology or something.
While working at KFC as a manager for $12/hour they decide
to do something with their lives and end up going to law
school (true story). Engineers often don't bother with grad
school, because they get good jobs right out of school. I know
so many nitwits who are now lawyers that I fear for myself if
I ever need serious legal advice. (There are smart lawyers
to be sure, but you have to sift through a lot of flotsam
to find them.)
\_ Is it that easy to get into law school? I thought it's as
hard as getting into med school, where you need to have
maintained a good GPA in undergrad. Not something you can fix
after graduation.
\_ I'm in LS now and I'm surprised at how many "characters"
there are. I have no idea how these people managed to
get decent scores on the LSAT or decent UG GPAS, my only
guess is that a humanities major somehow prepares you to
get by w/ very little work and LOTS of bs/guessing.
The only upshot of there being so many bad students is
that if you study like you studied in engineering you can
get mostly A's/B's (unlike in engineering where you could
still easily end up with a C).
\_ It is *way* easy to get into law school. Plenty of
jerkoffs went somewhere like San Jose State and majored
in Sociology or English with a 3.2 GPA and got into
law schools a *bit* less prestigious than Harvard Law.
I got A's in all my classics classes *AT CAL* (let
alone CSU) while spending all my time studying for
engineering, chemistry, physics and math classes. Same
with all the anthropology classes I took. My roommate
at Cal majored in Spanish and went to law school. He
was Hispanic and already spoke it fluently before
entering Cal. I am not sure he ever had any homework
other than reading and a few papers.
\_ Where did you go to High School?
\_ A public school in West Hartford, CT.
\_ I wonder how many of your ignorant "normal" Americans can write
a post that doesn't generate massive parsing errors.
\_ Uh, the unpopular nerdy kids were the smart ones?
\_ Import/export has a potential to make one quite rich. I know
many people who made small fortunes doing that. What I found
is that the mediocre students were more likely to have graduate
degrees. It seems odd, but the reason is (I presume) that they felt
they *had* to go to school. So many of my mediocre classmates
are lawyers (especially), psychologists, doctors, MBAs, and such.
None even touched science or engineering and yet they did quite
well financially. I think that overall scientists/engineers are
smarter and work harder with fewer financial rewards. By the
way, the girls that were kinda cute are now extremely hot and
the hot girls look mostly run-down. If only we could go back to make
decisions then based on what we know now...
\_ What's the difference between hot and cute? And yes all the hot
people became losers. This one hot girl got pregnant and she
never even went to college. On the other hand I got my BS/MS...
made good money in the Valley and have a nice house and a nice
car. ha ha, SUCKERS! That's for dissing us nerdy people.
\_ So, do you have a hot wife? If not, I would say that all
that other crap is just your way of dealing with the fact
that hot chicks don't like you and never did. I submit
you not knowing the difference between hot and cute as
evidence.
\_ There is no save/restore feature in the Life game. Maybe it'll
be available in an upcoming patch you can download.
\_ In my high school, very few of the popular kids even *went* to
college, are you kidding?
\_ ^Import/export^Real estate
\_ Almost anything has the potential to make one quite rich.
\_ Agreed. And the popular kids/jocks have nice cars and are
pretty successful, at least financially speaking. But unlike
many motd'ers, I didn't think that they were all assholes.
They went to either Cal States or UC's. --LA HS Guy
\_ I went to school in San Jose and I've seen this phenomenon too.
Most of the popular kids (ie the ones that played sports, drank,
had gf's) didn't end up in high paying jobs or going to good
schools. The nerdy kids (debate, AP classes, Community College)
ended up going to top schools and mostly went on to grad degrees.
The moral of the story is that if you optimize for short term
"fun" you often do so at the expense of long term security, but
if you choose to optimize for long term security, you may have
to pay a short term price (not being "fun").
To some extent these aren't "choices" per se: your parents don't
really care about education and prefer to see you have fun, so
you start haning w/ the "fun" crowd OR your parents can't afford
for you to participate in all those "fun" activities so you stop
going to them and start studying in the library instead OR you
just can't handle the math need to survive the "nerdy" classes
so you stop being interested in studying and start pursuing "fun"
instead.
Personally, I think the kids that turned out the best weren't
necessarily either the popular kids or the nerdy one (some of
these people have the biggest damn ego's you've ever seen) but
the ones who were able to put some balance into their lives. |
| 2005/6/9-12 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign] UID:38054 Activity:nil |
6/9 Okay, I'm thinking now that it's okay to throw people out of the
country: http://www.islamicthinkers.com
\_ Hmm, they sound just like some Christians.
\_ If some Christians are inciting violence against the US, throw
those people out too.
\_ I thought Gitlow vs. New York established that calling for
the overthrow of the US government was a crime? -John
\_ No, just the violent overthrow. You can call for a
peaceful overthrow all you want.
\_ What does "calling for a violent overthrow" entail? Is
there some formal legal definition, or is it just done
per common sense? (In which case yeah, throw out said
anybodies inciting violence--just throw them somewhere
else, we don't want 'em here.) -John |
| 2005/6/8 [Politics/Foreign/Canada, Politics/Foreign] UID:38043 Activity:moderate |
6/8 In the Natalee Holloway case, why is the FBI investigating a crime in
foreign soil?
\_ What do you mean? The FBI investigates crimes performed against
American citizens where ever they occur. I remember they had a
big operation in Yemen when the USS Cole was blown up.
\_ Isn't Aruba a state?
\_ Yeah, after Canada.
\_ on the topic of states, something I've always wondered -
is there any incentive/possibility for Puerto Rico to
become a state? (from a quick google search, looks like
their area is just over 1/2 of hawaii, and under 3x of RI,
not that area is the only criteria, of course).
\_ It would have power in the Senate equal to, say, California.
\_ Are the Puerto Ricans not interested, or is someone /
something preventing that from happening?
\_ Puerto Ricans are about equally split between
those who like it the way it is (or are apathetic),
those who think they should be a U.S. state, and
those who think they should be an independent
country.
\_ I've wondered about the same questions for D.C.
\_ several bills have been submitted to at least
give DC congressional representation, but never
passed
\_ iirc from elementary school, DC is not a state purpose-
fully so that the capital of the nation doesn't reside in
any one state. congressional representation, however, is
a different issue from statehood.
\_ She is young blonde white from alabama
\_ And let's not forget, possibly seen in the company of BLACK MEN! |
| 2005/6/6-7 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37978 Activity:nil |
6/6 http://csua.org/u/c9h Why am I not seeing these stories in US papers? \_ As Dick Cheney correctly pointed out, America has done a lot more good than evil. So we Americans feel justified to do whatever it takes to achieve our objectives. God Bless -Average American \_ Click your heels three times... \_ 'Cos you're not looking hard enough: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/01/international/01nations.html |
| 2005/4/9-10 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe, Finance/Investment] UID:37129 Activity:nil |
4/8 Free Trade killed the Neanderthals:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7221 |
| 2005/3/30-31 [Politics/Foreign] UID:36972 Activity:nil |
3/30 http://www.csua.org/u/bj7 International study of human effects on Earth. |
| 2005/3/15-17 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:36699 Activity:nil |
3/15 tell me if you want pointers to foreign bond (long
and short) fund, foreign reit fund, foreign utility fund,
foreign inflation indexed debt fund.
\_ I am interested in this. -ausman
\_ same here, please tell us how. I don't want to keep money
in useless US Money Market account since US dollar sucks.
\_ ditto -nivra
\_ No need to be mysterious. Just buy Dodge and Cox international.
6% YTD. Average return of about 12% since 1968 or so.
\_ Here you go:
http://tinyurl.com/627hr
The above article talks about has BGT, MFD, IGR, EGLRX
The above article talks about BGT, MFD, IGR, EGLRX
Interest rate rises (US? / internationally?) could be bad for
utilities and reit though, so I only bought BGT.
Two foreign bond funds: RPIBX, BEGBX
Like poster above me pointed out, Dodge and Cox ain't bad.
You may also want to look into:
You may also want to look into these int'l funds:
BJBIX (8.76% since 11/22/05 not including dividends)
TAVIX (6.44% since 12/27/05 not including dividends)
BJBIX (8.76% since 11/22/04 not including dividends)
TAVIX (6.44% since 12/27/04 not including dividends)
I also like some of the Matthews Asian Funds for
exposure to asia:
exposure to asia. I think Asia excluding Japan
has room to rise, but if PRC and Taiwan starts a war ...:
http://www.matthewsfunds.com
EUROX for exposure to Eastern Europe and Russia (risky?)
IFN for India (risky?)
BHP for exposure commodities (but this has gone up quite a bit
already)
BHP for exposure commodities
PBR for oil (risky?)
MPGFX (my favourite US fund)
US growth stocks starting to look tasty again, please fall some
more.
\_ Yeah, I already have 70% of my portfolio in international
funds, mostly ETFs but I am curious about the REIT, utility
and inflation indexed bonds. I have most of my 401k in MRIVX.
\_ The only foreign fund my 401K offers is an EAFE index fund.
Yes, I thought BGT, MFD and IGR are interesting choices
to know about. |
| 2005/2/11 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:36149 Activity:high |
2/11 Jesus fucked on a crutch. 49% of americans believe Foreign Aid is
one of the two biggest government programs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/sspoll020905.pdf
(scroll down a bit)
\_ Hey but it is down from 67% when Clinton was President!
\_ 49% of Americans being complete tards? Sounds about right. That's
the big peak of the bell curve right around that 50% moron point.
\_ It's closer to 51%. |
| 2005/2/8-9 [Politics/Foreign] UID:36100 Activity:high |
2/8 This is awesome! Go racial segregation!
http://www.housing.berkeley.edu/livingatcal/themeprograms.html
\_ Self-selecting segregation is freedom of choice.
\_ So is discrimination.
\_ No, it's illegal to discriminate. It's legal to be a rascist.
\_ I really do think Cal should not officially encourage the ones
that are race based. Why do they only have 3 races anyway? What
about the other ethnicities? The gay/lesbian one sounds fun:
"spacious suite-style community offers a comfortable and intimate
living environment". It needs to be intimate for all the gay sex.
Hey how surprising that there's no religious based one...
\_ since the dawn of time mankind has been discriminating against
each other, within his own town, abode, workplace, everywhere.
The only solution is the one Brazilians embrace. Mix everyone up
so much that you're unable to tell who and what you are. In such a
world, there is less discrimination.
\_ Yeah, then you have discrimination based on socioeconomic status.
Have you been to Brazil? It's a shithole, a total cluster fuck
of a country.
\_ Have you? It does pretty well for a total cluster fuck of
a country. And tell us a place where there ISN'T
discrimination based on a socioeconomic status.
\_ Brazil has more problems than the average country.
\_ Brazil has more hot babes that do anal than your
average country.
\_ And you know this how?
\_ Is that because people in Brazil are used to
being f***ed up the ass?
\_ My officemate is from Brazil. He said his country is so poor
and so fucked up, everyone tries to help each other out in
his little town, because they have nothing else but each
other. This proves one thing. When you get all materialistic
you become a selfish Porsche driving asshole and when you've
got nothing, you become more compassionate. It's clear that
we should nuke USA to make the country more compassionate -op
\_ I think you meant "-pp" since you're sure as heck not
-op. -op
\_ What happens if you are a Porsche driving asshole
from Brazil? I know one of those.
\_ From the pictures I've seen they tend to reck
spectacularly on the highways. Ferrari's turned into
Altoids tins and the like. |
| 2005/1/6 [Politics/Foreign] UID:35566 Activity:kinda low |
1/6 Numerous news articles talk about Colin Powell singing the YMCA
at a meeting in Indonesia on July 2, 2004 and doing a rap on
December 4, 2004 at a ceremony honoring Warren Beatty. Where can
I find videos of these?
\_ I don't know, but the YMCA song was pretty funny... |
| 2004/12/3-4 [Politics/Foreign] UID:35161 Activity:nil |
12/3 I still think he's a whore and a bastard, but he's an eloquent one:
Michael Powell: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/03/opinion/03powell.html?hp
\_ Lawrence Lessig recently praised him for an evenhanded approach to
technical issues. The morality bit is still damning, but he has made
certain things like WiMax possible. |
| 2004/12/3 [Politics/Foreign] UID:35159 Activity:nil |
12/2 Irony Is Not Dead Watch: AP reports that "Russian President Vladimir
Putin accused the United States on Friday of pursuing a dictatorial
foreign policy..."
\_ Not so much irony as pot/kettle. |
| 2004/11/16 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34916 Activity:nil |
11/16 Gee, I'm reading Yahoo News and I've never seen that many photos of
Powell and Rice together before. |
| 2004/11/4 [Politics/Foreign] UID:34662 Activity:kinda low |
11/4 HAHA. Look at all that disagreement, self righteousness, denial,
anger, and bickering on the motd. This is the exact reason
why the Republicans were able to sweep away the country.
You guys are pathetic. I guess so am I.
\_ They didn't sweep away the country. They won the entire south,
and additionally Ohio and Florida. Those two were all it took.
If you look at the population distributions, sure that looks
like a big swath of red territory across the central US, but
they don't have much population. Look at the size of their
congressional districts. |
| 2004/11/3 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:34622 Activity:high |
11/3 I know indeed what evil I intend to do,
but stronger than all my afterthoughts is my fury,
fury that brings upon mortals the greatest evils.
-Euripides, _Medea_
\_ It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has
been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from
their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy.
Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters
led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the
remote ice world of Hoth.
The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker,
has dispatched thousands of remote probes into the far reaches of
space...
\_ we destroyed the death star? i don't think so. we don't even
have a skywalker.
\_ Maybe it's from Bin Laden's perspective. He might fancy
himself a Skywalker.
\_ We are down 2 death stars in NY.
\_ Return of the Caliph!
\_ I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in my pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate
I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down
\_ I think I saw this in the opening to an episode of Andromeda
\_ Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
\_ Right, exactly. Now who were the more passionate here?
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
... And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
\_ "The issue is not a mean one. It is whether you will be content
to be a comfortable England, modeled and moulded upon Continental
principles and meeting in due course an inevitable fate, or whether
you will be a great country, an imperial country, a country where
your sons, when they rise, rise to paramount positions, and obtain
not merely the esteem of their countrymen, but command the respect
of the world." - Benjamin Disraeli
\_ I liked my Euripides the most. Short and to the point. --op
\_ I think we're making different points here.
\_ i was referring more to the big spew above than your
Disraeli quote.
\_ I rate the probability that Lemmy Killmeister rips
off your head and shits down your neck as: high. |
| 2004/11/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:34543 Activity:nil |
11/2 I finally figured out how to find out the political
slant of different news organizations. COLOR!!! Look at
http://foxnews.com as the most obvious example. It's very red...
menus, icons, etc. It must be a RED neck right wing nut
news corporation, something many people will agree to. -troll |
| 2004/10/30-11/1 [Politics/Foreign] UID:34463 Activity:nil |
10/30 In Java, how would classes in named packages use classes in
unnamed packages? I'd like to do "import default" or "import unnamed"
or something to that effect but it's not working. -ok thx |
| 2004/10/27 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign] UID:34375 Activity:high |
10/26 Vote Bush! Let's not repeat 2000 again.
\_ You so funny!
\_ Not really. If your single issue is the importance of the
voting process and the long term health of our nation's most
basic principlesm then voting for the guy ahead in the polls
is the most likely way to lopside them enough to avoid further
lawsuits and post-election uncertainty.
\_ ...by that logic, giving all your money to people who look
threatening is a great way to avoid getting mugged. It's true,
but it's missing the point.
\_ Well, it's more like if you're going to get raped anyway,
you might as well supply your assailant with a condom.
\_ no, it is saying that there is a greater issue at stake
than which guy will fuck up the country for 4 years.
\_ Whereas the point is that one guy is definitely going to
fuck up the country, while the other guy stands a good
chance of _not_ fucking up the country.
\_ Wheew! Another Bush supporter on the motd!
\_ The trick is to figure out which guy is which.
That's why there's a horse race.
\_ Right, I'm having difficulty deciding between the
guy who's been lying to me and shooting the
country in the foot for the last four years and
the guy who wants a chance to try something new.
\_ I'm sure you think you're on the right. I'm
also as sure there are just as many people on
the opposite side who think they're on the
right. That's why there's a horse race. |
| 2004/9/14 [Politics/Foreign] UID:33520 Activity:nil |
9/14 From the Irony is Dead department,
Powell concerned by Putin's political changes for terror fight:
http://csua.org/u/90w |
| 2004/9/4 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33355 Activity:nil 50%like:33350 |
9/4 BushCo's response to terrorism v. Putin's. Compare and Contrast.
http://csua.org/u/8x8
\_ I see, a more "sensible" war. |
| 2004/9/4 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33350 Activity:high 50%like:33355 |
9/4 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/09/04/in ternational1038EDT0487.DTL BushCo's response to terrorism to Putin's. Compare and Contrast. \_ http://csua.org/u/8x8 \_ I see, a more "sensible" war. |
| 2004/8/27 [Politics/Foreign] UID:33195 Activity:nil |
8/27 http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/08/27/911.toy.ap/index.html Get your 9/11 toys now! |
| 2004/8/24 [Politics/Foreign, Reference/Law/Visa] UID:33091 Activity:moderate |
8/24 Question: I am green card holder and now I want to go back to my
country. Do I need to pay uncle sam for the income I earned in
my home country?
\_ i suggest you do it anyway, in case you decided to get
citizenship later. It's a pain, but generally
you won't need to pay a penny unless you are making more than
$84k per year (the figure changes every year, it's slightly above
$80k/yr).
\_ is it true that if you are outside of the US for some period
of time (>6 months), it would jeopadize your citizenship
application?
\_ umm, you should talk to your immigration lawyer about that. |
| 2004/8/11 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:32821 Activity:nil |
8/11 Old News: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."
\_ Sounds like Quayle.
\_ A new 'Bushism': We're gonna get us
\_ That answers the question "Why do you hate America?" |
| 2004/7/31 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:32610 Activity:nil |
7/31 I was having dinner with a former 6th grade teacher and a
classmate last night (haven't seen both in years). I was dragged
into a political discussion I didn't really want to get into.
The result was the usual left-wing/bleeding-heart-liberal
diatribe against corporations, money, etc. So from what I
gather the reasoning is something like this:
Greed is bad, therefore corporations are bad because they
exploit workers by underpaying them. Corporations should be
avoided and heavily restricted.
Now, this is the part I don't get. If there were no corporations
in the first place, wouldn't people be unemployed? And if
people are unemployed, wouldn't that be a "bad thing?"
Also, corporations pay a lot of taxes in the form of employment
and income, so doesn't the government greatly benefit from
having business and trade around?
Just a caveat, the former teacher and classmate have never held
a "real" job before. The classmate was stuck in a jungle for
2 years doing peace core shit and recently came back. I don't
know about you, but I think the education system is pretty fucked
if we have people like this running our schools.
\_ Go vouchers!!! Oh wait teacher's unions control the schools and
Dem. Party....
\_ As anyone who worked for a corporation will tell you, corporations
_do_ suck, for the most part. But avoiding or restricting
corporations treats the symptom, not the disease. I don't think
anyone knows how to treat the disease (which, btw, has nothing to
do with corporations themselves, it's apparent in the public sector
too). -- ilyas
\_ Seems to me the common factor is concentrated wealth and power.
"Soulless bureaucracies" are manifestations of power that can
generally be traced to a few large stockholders or government
officials. What do we mean by "restricting corporations"?
Regulating human employment, monopolies, and corporate actions
affecting health, safety, and the environment all seem to be
desirable to me, in this capitalist system, to protect against
the abuses inherently possible with these massive differences
in wealth and power. The government itself is *supposed* to
manifest the power of the "people" but obviously this too needs
watching. But corps. generally represent the power of very few.
--motd moderate
\_ '... needs watching.' Yes indeed. The problem is, even with
government watchdog groups, it's much harder to get the
government to change. Anyways, I am not really holding my
breath for an improvement until the world has achieved
americanization/globalization/localization. I think when that
happens a lot of problems will go away.
(By 'a/g/l' I mean the country's gvt systems and economies
will come to resemble the US, while at the same time there
will be a huge push to decentralize most aspects of the
government, start cultural preservation movements, and so on.
So both a localization and a globalization will happen at once)
-- ilyas |
| 2004/7/30 [Politics/Foreign] UID:32581 Activity:insanely high |
7/30 Is the US allowed to open any package that enters the country
from another country via postal mail, ship, or anything else? --OBL
\_ "The US" isn't, but customs, the DEA, certain types of postal
staff, and other law enforcement agencies probably are. -John |
| 2004/7/6 [Politics/Foreign] UID:31171 Activity:high |
7/6 The BBC shows us a little of that Colin Powell shake:
link:csua.org/u/81x
(Real Player, requires sound, work safe)
\_ He's a better man on his worst day than you on your best.
\_ He really is, probably more than all of us. So? |
| 2004/6/16 [Computer/HW/Memory, Politics/Foreign, Computer/SW] UID:30829 Activity:nil |
6/16 To those of you more familar with the software world than
international trade in theory and practice, some of the
arguments made by the anti-aumping people are self-serving
comments analogous to these ... "people are being raped
by paying less ... when will they realize they would be
better off with out more expensive product" ...
McBride calls these arguments tantamount to a death
sentence for a multibillion-dollar software industry
that has helped propel the United States to economic and
technological leadership in the digital era. In March,
he sent a letter to every member of Congress warning
that Linux threatens the country's economic well-being
and even its national security. "Each Open Source
installation displaces or pre-empts a sale of
proprietary, licensable and copyright-protected
software," he said in his letter. "This means fewer
jobs, less software revenue and reduced incentives for
software companies to innovate." [http://csua.org/u/7s9]
Also to the fellow who raised the example of memory chips,
find me a case. I am not saying there has never been such
a case [I dont know] but I would bet nobody has ever won a
dumping case. --psb |
| 2004/6/3 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30577 Activity:high |
6/3 Ok, now that various US leaders are blaming the CIA for mis-information,
next time someone like Powell goes to the UN to announce, "Hey! our CIA
found this out ...", will the leaders of other nations just roll on the
floor laughing, "Are you sure it wasn't yomama who told you about it?"?
huh huh.
\_ Fuck this, we invaded Iraq based on false information the BushCo
wanted from the CIA, and now he steps down, everything is going to
be ok? Fuck BushCo.
\_ I love this blame game! So who is next?
\_ Rummy! Let's make Powell into both the Secretary of State
AND Defense.
\_ I've got a better idea. Let's just dissolve all three branches
of government and declare Bush to be Divine King descended
from Jesus Christ himself. Cheney and Rummy can hold court
and be the real power behind the throne, and Rove can be
the court jester to distract everyone. Everything will
be so much simpler that way.
\_ Have you frothers got it out of your system yet? |
| 2004/4/19 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:13273 Activity:nil |
4/19 http://washingtonpost.com has an excerpt from Plan of Attack. Powell being "out of the loop" aside, you can read about the Cheney-Powell dynamic. |
| 2004/4/13 [Politics/Foreign] UID:13164 Activity:low |
4/13 Reminder, Band of Brothers playing on the History Channel for
the next few days.
\_ You white racist fuck! You censored my comments about your hateful
white pride minority and women oppressing propaganda crap show!
\_ Wow. Wish I'd known this a few days ago (started Sunday)
\_ you're welcome
\_ can't you just borrow or buy the DVD? Or Tivo it?
\_ Glorifying old dead white man's violence of the young, minorities,
women, and the poor. It's sickening that you'd encourage people
to watch a mini series about the invasion of a foreign land which
had done *nothing* to us at *any* point in history which was
guaranteeing our friends and allies around the world would hate us
even more.
\_ uh, why do you guys like to see heads blown off to pieces?
It's just like Saving Private Ryan (and it's directed by
Spielberg and Hanks), but it's 10 hours instead of 2. |
| 2004/4/12 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:29916 Activity:nil |
4/11 Bush foreign policy
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/funds/supermodels/10151634.html |
| 2004/1/22 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Foreign] UID:11879 Activity:nil |
1/21 "Dictionaries are opinion, disguised as fact, in alphabetical order."
-- A wise man
\_ Maybe I haven't been following the news, or am just one of the
many unelightened allued to below, but what does this quote
have to do with forms of government?
\_ Look, you have to pick. If you don't like democracy, like me,
you should be busy thinking of a better form of government, since
it's a larger problem than gay rights (no offense to homosexual
americans). If you do like democracy, you should learn to bow to
the opinions of the majority in political matters. -- ilyas
\_ Just do it like th greeks. Land owners and people who have a
reason to give a shit about society get to vote. All the teat
sucking proles continue on as before and maybe their offspring
will do better than they did in life.
\_ Plato called democracy the second worst form of government
(after tyranny). I agree with him. The problem with any
form of democracy is that masses of people, land-owners or
not, do not make good decisions. -- ilyas
\_ So what about a republic, which is the form of
government we have. Wasn't Plato speaking of
direct democracy? I agree with you that
direct democracy is horrible (look at CA's
initiative system), but I disagree with you
about republics.
\_ Introducing layers of indirection does not address the
basic problem. I don't really know what the answer is,
and neither did Plato. Plato wanted some sort of
enlightened monarchy, but he couldn't solve the throne
inheritance problem. -- ilyas
\_ "Do not make good decisions"? that's a bit much isn't it?
surely they sometimes do, sometimes don't. there are a lot
of factors that can affect the quality of the democracy.
How much incentive is there for the "good" decision-makers
to be in politics? Also, in this country, political parties
have become a joke due to the 2 party dominance. If we
had proportional representation, real parties and coalitions,
and something like instant runoff voting, I think we would
get government that is more representative of society. I also
think more power should rest with the more locally elected
people, instead of governors, senators and presidents who
have become television actors. I believe that the federal
government has gained a lot more power than the founders
envisioned.
\_ Sure, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. And
you are also right in that there are factors affecting
the quality of a democracy. Nevertheless, I can't help
but feel that there is something fundamentally wrong
with democracy itself. -- ilyas
\_ The PRC is probably the closest alternative, where
you have a ruling elite who select each leader
in turn, and control accession to their group. But
anything other than democracy requires crushing
freedoms to maintain control, and will be prone to
a lot of inherent corruption.
\_ I am not sure you are right, which is why I am
still thinking about it. To use Plato's analogy
of the State as the soul, there are more kinds of
souls than those of serial killers and
schizophrenics. -- ilyas
\_ What's your metric of a better government?
Happiness of people, national power...?
\_ I don't really know the answer since if I
did I would have a better idea of what
kind of government is best. I do know that
a prerequisite for the kind of government
that doesn't make me cringe is some sort of
universal morality. Without this, it's just
competing warlords with perhaps a civil
veneer (or perhaps not...). -- ilyas
\_ SERVICE guarantees CITIZENSHIP!
\_ Enlightened beings rule themselves. They dont need a government
to rule over them. We earthlings, however, are not very enlightened
most of the time.
\_ you mean most of us don't think like you? |
| 2003/12/23-24 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Canada] UID:11577 Activity:high |
12/23 Has anyone ever taken a chartered flight out of the country? Even
to somewhere close like canada/mexico/caribbean? I'm wondering about
what kind of searches they do. And do you need to go through customs
at the foreign country once you land? I'm thinking maybe not since
you're on a private plane and not landing at a regular airline
terminal. Thanks.
\_ This just in: the Bush administration has just announced that the
terror alert level is being elevated to red, due to US intelligence
agencies detecting a credible terrorist threat on an undisclosed
online forum located in Berkeley, CA.
\_ Not really answering your question, but once I flew on a flight
chartered for a tour package. Upon landing one of the engines
bursted into flame for a few seconds and then went out. The crew
acted as if nothing out of the ordinary happened.
\_ one time, my pet snake came out of its jar, slithering this way
and that, and i thought it was going to eat my cat, but then
it didn't.
you are an idiot. -ali
\_ Gees, ali, what the fuck is your problem? Thesis not going
well, so you are taking it out on the motd?
\_ I bet you got really hairy balls.
\_ Ali shaves his balls, I believe.
\_ That was poetic. Did you compose it yourself asshole?
\_ ali, you arrogant prick. I know where you live and I will
BB gun your car some time this week. Good luck. |
| 2003/12/16-17 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:11477 Activity:kinda low |
12/16 Silly question maybe, but what's the difference between "people"
and "persons"? A quick google didn't seem to help. Thanks.
\_ "people" is a real word. "persons" is some twisted thing used by
paper pushing govnerment types starting in the mid 90s in an attempt
to make their crap sound more professional. real people don't use
the word persons in everyday conversation or writing. it's
dehumanising.
\_ actually, if you look in the OED, persons has been used for at
least 500 years. persons is the proper plural form of person,
but a secondary sense of people is persons, so that is acceptable
as well. if you want to be formal and precise, it is "persons"
though.
\_ e.g. "You persons can go fuck yourself" is very formal.
\_ I agree.
\_ persons is a good new word. people has too many meanings or
shades of meaning, and it can be ambiguous which one is being
used. My guess would be that it started not with government
types but legal types.
\_ Once again, you all need to read this essay:
George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language"
http://www.resort.com/~prime8/Orwell/patee.html
\- while i am a fan of this article, i think Orwell's
complaint would be more with say using "individuals"
instead of "people". let me call some of my people
about the person/people distinction. --psb
\- hmm, it looks like "recently" persons was weakly
for a specific number [the 12 persons on the jury]
but people was for a vague number [many people in
the court room], but it is acknowledged "persons"
is giving way to "people". however there are some
contexts where persons still seems right ...
"persons under 17 will not be admitted without
supervision". --psb
\_ thank you psb! I knew the "people good" "persons
bad" guy was wrong. - a once-in-a-while psb fan |
| 2003/11/22 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Politics/Foreign] UID:11185 Activity:nil |
11/21 S.F. has nation's highest syphilis rate
http://csua.org/u/52d
Must be the foggy weather
\_ Must be that you're an evil rich white male oppressor racist!
\_ You really are obsessed with this. You need help.
\_ It is good to be #1 in something, at least.
\_ SF is #1 in several things, none of them good. |
| 2003/11/14 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:11069 Activity:nil |
11/13 Ex-Mexican consul arrested in connection with trafficking of
illegal Arab migrants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1021304/posts
\_ Government Employees (Foreign or Domestic) - The Enemy Within!! |
| 2003/11/11 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign] UID:11018 Activity:nil |
11/10 Dances with Wolves on now at the History Channel. Find out why
the US Government/Foreign policy is so great.
\_ Trying to be sarcastic? Here's the synopsis from Roger Ebert
"The dominant American culture was nearsighted, incurious and
racist, and saw the Indians as a race of ignorant, thieving
savages, fit to be shot on sight. Such attitudes survived until
so recently in our society - just look at the B Westerns of the
1940s - that we can only imagine how much worse they were 100
years ago. -Roger Ebert"
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/1990/11/576465.html
\_ Hey Kid, it's a movie. Did you think Water World was based on
fact, too? The Postman? There were lots of fucked up things the
US government did to the indians and still does but DwW has nothing
to do with it and isn't a history lesson. Back to the troll pits
with you, boy-o!
\_ water world ruled. i don't care about this stupid dances with
wolves troll, but if you talk shit about water world you and
me are going to tangle. |
| 2003/11/5 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:10958 Activity:nil |
11/4 If you haven't read it already, you should:
George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm |
| 2003/11/3 [Politics/Foreign] UID:29603 Activity:nil |
11/2 Fuck you censorbot.
20 soldiers died today because of your hero's idiotic politics.
\_ Criticism of Our Great Leader is not permitted.
\_ and you think you are doing your country a favor by censoring
criticism on our leader?
\_ Boy, are you dumb. |
| 2003/10/22 [Politics/Foreign] UID:10727 Activity:low |
10/21 Is there any good way to turn gold jewelry into cash, and what
is the typical premium paid to get it in the form of jewelry?
(as opposed to just a gold bar or ingot, for instance.) We
received several gold chains/etc as wedding gifts, and would
rather put the inherent value to use instead of having them
just sit in a safety deposit box... (they aren't very
practical). Any resale options other than a pawn shop or ebay?
Or just hold on to them for the next depression?
\_ So you stole some shit and your fence got busted before you could
cash out the loot? Yeah, that's tough when it happens.
\_ Nah, I think they just have Asian parents.
\_ exactly! - OP
\_ you're both a bunch of racists.
\_ I'm no racist. I just happen to also have Asian
parents and I got a lot of gold necklaces and bracelets
when I got married. - !OP
\_ Did you really go to Berkeley? look, if you're
not standing on Sproul shouting about affirmative
action and setting fire to stacks of Daily Cals,
you're a RACIST!!!!
\_ Pointing out a cultural tradition is not racist, it is
a statement of fact.
\_ schmelt it into a bar and take it to Thailand and exchange
for nicer stuff. 1 to 1 exchange rate.
\_ Have you done this? Where did you have it made into a bar, and
how much did that cost?
\_ Bah, it's worth more in a formed state than as gold mint tabs.
You're not going to make up the cost of the jewlery. Depending
on how quick you want to get the money and how nice the pieces
are, an independent jeweler may be your best bet.
\_ In the US, you'll lose about 20-30% if you're lucky... that is,
selling the jewelry. If you turn it into gold, you'll lose way more.
If you go to less industrialized nations that have lots of gold
(e.g. Turkey, E. Asia???), the jeweler might only eat 5-10%. YMMVg
\_ Kitco will give you 90% of melt price:
http://online.kitco.com/selling
\_ perfect, thanks!
\_ As someone else pointed out, melt price is a lot less than
price as jewelry. Most of the cost of a piece of jewelry is
the labor to make it. --dim
\_ LOL. you get the stupidest comment of the day award.
\_ Obviously you've never had jewelry made. Why do
you think a necklace made of QUARTZ can cost over
$10K? Could it be the WORKMANSHIP? Go price some
stones and then go price the jewelry. Jewelry has
a huge mark-up. "Cost" here means cost to the
dealer, not the consumer. Melt the gold down and
it's suddenly worth a lot less than it was finished.
\_ It's a cool web site, though, and is a useful option if
ebay and an exchange in asia don't work out... |
| 2003/10/10 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:10569 Activity:nil |
10/9 Suppose I go on a cruise and the ship is in international water
where there is no jurisdiction from any government. What would
happen if there is murder or drug dealings or pot growing? Who
regulates and who enforces?
\_ The captain throws you overboard. -John
\_ this is one of those things that the cruise lines don't
want you to think about
\_ or, hypothetically, brainwash people into your bullshit
made-up religion...
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/groups/pg011.html
\_ hint: all religions are made up.
\_ Nothing happens. I once raped 11 chicks on this one cruise. -kobeB
\_ "This one goes to eleven!"
\_ Doesn't the country where the ship is registered have jurisdiction?
If you and a chick voluntarily swim say 10ft away from the ship, and
then you rape her, that I don't know.
\_ Every square inch of this planet is under the legal jurisdiction of
some government and if they don't really have it they'll take it
anyway if your crime is serious enough.
\_ yep this is the de facto answer -- the de jure answer is the
country of registry has jurisdiction. however, liberia and
panama cannot be said to have global law enforcement
capabilities. --aaron
\_ Typically the person's country of citizenship will enforce its
law.
\_ Really? So how about, oh say, when some Arabs toss an old
Jewish guy in a wheel chair overboard after taking over the
ship at gun point?
\_ They make a bad opera out of it and punish everyone else.
Collective suffering, you know. -John
\_ Ever hear of International Law?
\_ Yes, no such thing. Where are the International Police and the
International Judges and the International Jails and under which
International Government do these 3 branches report to and why
have I yet to get a summons for International Jury Duty? |
| 2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Politics/Foreign, Finance/Investment] UID:12242 Activity:kinda low |
2/13 http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/040213/economy_trade_1.html http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/040213/economy_prices_1.html Trade Gap widens. Imports and raw material prices rising. Inflation coming. Uh oh, doomsday scenario is coming true. Dollar falling like a rock and interest rate going up. Not bad for a Friday the 13th. \_ Inflation hasn't been and stayed this low for decades. You want inflation? Go checked out the Carter years for what real inflation looks like. The rest of that stuff fluctuates over time. Why are you so thrilled with the idea that our economy might collapse? I hope you understand that something as big as the US economy is not under the control of the President, or the Federal government as a whole and cheering for a global economic collapse so your guy can get into office is simply sheer stupidity. Have you ever talked to anyone who lived through the Depression? If you had you wouldn't be so rah-rah about the economy possibly tanking for real. \_ am I supposed to be rah-rah about the economy when there is nothing to be rah-rah about it? the great depression happened precisely because people became too optimistic about the economy. are you on drugs? as for inflation, I think everyone knows it is low, what people are concern is the direction it's going to go cause that will affect interest rate which may cause problems with various bubbles. \_ you don't have to rah-rah anything. i simply told you there's no reason to claim gloom and doom. mild inflation is not an economic problem. it is quite natural. only the insane, short sellers, and hostile foreign powers rah-rah when the US economy is in trouble. i doubt you're a hostile foreign power. \_ Hey you are the same "are you on drugs" person trolling the motd below. \_ what have you been smoking? "are you on drugs" is a common phrase on the motd. \_ No, no. You got it wrong. Our prices are just low, Low, LOW! You gotta buy American! High Quality! Excellent prices! 10% off? That's not enough! 20% off? No way! 50% off? WAY! Now we're talking! And why such a deal? 'Cause Crazy George is our manager and he wants to let you know it's ALL FOR SALE! Need credit? Crazy George will lend you the cash! Buy it! It's all good! Why worry about tomorrow when you can have fun TODAY! SWEET! BUY! YEEEARRRG! |
| 2003/7/29-30 [Politics/Foreign] UID:29170 Activity:high |
7/29 State Prison Inmates, by Offense,
Gender, Race, and Hispanic Origin, 2000
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778436.html
\_ Would someone please tell me what they mean by
'Hispanic Origin'? Thanks. --PeterM
\_ Just watch out for those 300 Female rapists
\_ Did they rape male or other female?
\_ haven't you seen "Freeway"? - danh
\_ No.
\_ How can a female possibly rape a male with a soft penis?
\_ "get hard or I'll blow your brains out."
\_ i bet they're tracking female
on female sexual assaults. - danh
(unless his penis is hard, but in which case he's excited and
it won't be a rape.)
\_ she can hold him down on the pool table and suck his dick
\_ Erection != rape? I don't think so, bud. If she's wet it
is not rape? Try to use that one in court.
\_ sometimes people say "rape with a foreign object", although
more often it's "sexual penetration with a foreign object"
\_ I guess statutory rape didn't occur to any of you. |
| 2003/7/24 [Politics/Domestic, Computer/HW/CPU, Politics/Foreign] UID:29127 Activity:very high |
7/24 Want to waste a little time? http://www.emode.com/tests/uiq It's a 2 page IQ test. When it asks for email address at the end, just give any fake address. You'll still get the results after you submit the form. My score was 135 and rated "visual mathematician" \_ 160+ here. \_ liar \_ I scored 136 and was a "visionary philosopher" \_ doesn't IQ test depend of age also? \_ Technically yes -- but the emode people claim to use a different method to arrive at similar results. *shrug* \_ 135, Facts Curator \_ 135, Visual Mathematician. -ucla cs guys \_ Ditto. -mice \_ too many people getting 135. I think there's something wrong with the test. \_ I think 135 is perfect score minus one. This test is too easy for sodalites. We need one where the middle is higher. \_ 138, visionary philosopher. \_ Then it isn't an IQ test. \_ My understanding is that anyone can completely legitimately make a test with any scale and call it an "IQ test". For a standardized test you have to go for specific ones, i.e. "Wechsler IQ test." I'm not certain, though. -niloc \_ It could be timed, hence all the "philosophers" and "curators". \_ 136, "visionary philosopher" \_ Ack! Only 133. Must be the chocolate for breakfast. I'm a Word Warrior. I have exceptional verbal skills and easily make sense of complex issues and take an unusually creative approach to solving problems. My strengths make me a visionary! Even without trying I'm able to come up with lots of new and creative ideas! That's why I waste my time posting on the motd and wall all day. I'm just waiting to pop my next creative idea on you and take over the world and be the next Netscape! \_ 140, eh hem! \_ 84, Precision Processor! \_ 140, Visionary Philosopher \_ 129, precision processor -ax (I get from 129-14X on these sort of tests, but I've never put much faith in IQ tests.) A question- What is your IQ on this test vs how much money do you make? \_ IQ doesn't mean anything! It is bullshit! You can be a dumb ass and still make tons of $. I know I do, cuz my EQ is very very high -mr liao \_ I never took an IQ test, but you can be the Leader of the Free World with the right connections! -dubya \_ Although you don't see it you are actually making a very good point. Not the one where you attack the President mindlessly but where you point out that with the right connections you can do anything and be anyone. "It isn't what you know, it's who you know" will always be true. \- hello i think the main problem with the "IQ test" is that it isnt timed. e.g. someone who can do the nasa alien question in 10 sec vs. 30 sec. i didnt spend a lot of time on the pattern match questions for example. ok tnx --psb 138/fact curator \_ I like how you use the example of a part of test on which you happened to do particularly well. What if other people used the same argument about the verbal or math portions? Your capability to perform pattern matching does not impress anybody with half a brain. And may I ask why you thought the alien NASA question was particularly difficult that it should deserve special merit for finishing quickly? \- that's not what i meant about doing the pattern matching quickly ... i probably did lousy at that because i didnt spend much time on those. i dont think you can compare a 135 in 10 min and a 140 in 20 min. how much time you spend on the "which one doesnt belong" type Qs i think also makes a diff. --psb \_ I am not defending the validity of any test which claims to be able to categorize all of human intelligence with any accuracy or precision by asking 40 simple questions. However, IQ tests in general do not test your ability to think quickly, but your ability to concentrate, visualize an answer, and verify the answer. Hence, no time limit. \_ Who's attacking the President? If they have a problem, they should tell that to me in my face! -dubya \_ 140, but it recorded one of my answers incorrectly and scored it as wrong. How is the IQ of the people who made the test? \_ 136, Visionary Philosopher, and no idea what the heck the answer was to the "rose" question. What is it? \_ tempting. Look up the phrase on google. |
| 2003/7/2 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign] UID:28897 Activity:high |
7/1 Hey kid, start here: http://bride.ru/ph/htcgi/ladies/in-all/index1.html Some of them are attractive, Russia is pretty much a western country, they can't be any worse than you'll meet here and they're much more likely to appreciate your brains and stick around even if they may never truly love you. Best of luck. \_ Scary thing is, I know a few guys who've done this. It's very odd, and all the women, while perfectly nice and educated, have something cold about them. -John something cold about them. It's a weird thing trying to have a chat with a friend's import-a-bride. -John |
| 2003/6/25-26 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic] UID:28831 Activity:high |
6/26 Does anyone knows where I can get a copy of the following:
http://analyst.sourceforge.net
This is a parser which parse 10K SEC filing, and it was taken
off because of PWC's patent on parsing number or something
obvious.
I am hoping that the project simply went underground instead of
being completely dead. -kngharv
\_ I want a copy of this software partly for parsing 10k filing,
but now, I want it mostly for the sake of violating what I
considered as abuse of intellectual property laws.
-- OP
\_ PWC should be allowed to defend its patents by destroying
the computers of anyone running this 'analyst' theft
\_ If they weren't in violation of the law the project would still be
there. Are you one of those "the information wants to be free!"
fanatics who think other people's work should be made available to
you in exchange for *nothing* from you? So selfish, so stupid.
Patents expire. Childish stupidity does not.
\_ It is heartening to see one with such abject faith in the system.
btw, you are right about childish stupidity. -crebbs
\_ excuse me? patenting parsing? please.
\_ nonsense. did you *read* the patent? are you qualified to
do so? maybe you've seen LA Law a few times?
\_ "It was never the object of patent laws to grant a
monopoly for every trifling device, every shadow of a
shade of an idea, which would naturally and spontaneously
occur to any skilled mechanic or operator in the ordinary
progress of manufactures. Such an indiscriminate creation
of exclusive privileges tends rather to obstruct than
to stimulate invention. It creates a class of speculative
schemers who make it their business to watch the advancing
wave of improvement, and gather its foam in the form of
patented monopolies, which enable them to lay a heavy
tax on the industry of the country, without contributing
anything to the real advancement of the arts. It embarrasses
the honest pursuit of business with fears and apprehensions
of unknown liability lawsuits and vexatious accounting
for profits made in good faith." --U.S. Supreme Court,
Atlantic Works vs. Brady, 1882
\_ motdformatd
\_ Yes and this is incorporated into the "obviousness" clause
used by the PTO to deny many patents today.
\_ Patents used to expire. The current crop is getting extended
faster than it is expiring. This does nothing but enrich
the patent holder, usually long after the inventor is dead.
\_ I do not think that word means what you think it means.
\_ which word? they look good 2 me. -phuqm/nottheposter
\_ patent.
\_ No. Sorry. Just wrong. Patents used to be 17 years from the
date of issue. A few years ago they changed to be 20 years
from the date of application. Since it can easily take 3 or
more years to issue, patents are actually shorter now. I'd
*love* to see a URL backing up your false and ignorant claim
that patents are "getting extended".
\_ he's probably getting trademarks and patents confused
\_ probably. that doesn't excuse his clueless scribblings
and droolings all over the motd.
\_ I do not think that word means what you think it means.
In this case, the word would be trademark.
\_ Given the pace of (I).technology, particularly things like
that which is being discussed, it would be reasonable to
cut the patent protection time, not increase it.
(even if it is only a nominal increase) Of course, there
is no perfect solution. It is all a kludge -phuqm |
| 2003/6/12 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:28710 Activity:nil |
6/11 All Hail the UN
Congo observers slaughtered after 6 days of
unanswered pleas to U.N. for rescue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927398/posts
\_ This is hardly news. It's the UN. Duh.
\_ Those poor observers. Must be because they are not westerners,
so no one cared about their lives. |
| 2003/4/15-16 [Politics/Foreign] UID:28137 Activity:nil |
4/15 "The issue is not a mean one. It is whether you will be content to
be a comfortable England, modeled and moulded upon Continental
principles and meeting in due course an inevitable fate, or whether
you will be a great country, an imperial country, a country where
your sons, when they rise, rise to paramount positions, and obtain
not merely the esteem of their countrymen, but command the respect
of the world." - Benjamin Disraeli
\_ Paraphrased by, um, Hitler, ironically enough, early 1930s
\_ reference?
\_ "Ach! Das Alte Juden! Das ist der Mann!" |
| 2003/4/5-6 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign] UID:28004 Activity:high |
4/5 Akamai strikes a blow against the free press:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/04/technology/04WEB.html
\_ Been through this before. It's a business and one run by a foreign
government at that. They have no free press rights even if they
were a free press and Akamai usage is not in any way required to
get one's message out to the internet. You're a stupid troll.
When you cry murder everytime someone sneezes in your direction, no
one will come running when it's a killer with a knife.
\_ Been through this before. It's a business and one run
by a foreign government at that. They have no free press
rights even if they were a free press and Akamai usage is
not in any way required to get one's message out to the
internet. You're a stupid troll. When you cry murder
everytime someone sneezes in your direction, no one will
come running when it's a killer with a knife.
\_ The caption was a joke.
\_ Akamai is just trying to keep clear of controversy while they
look for a buyer. Their fundamentals suck. |
| 2003/4/1 [Politics/Foreign] UID:27938 Activity:very high |
4/1 It's become clear to me now - there is exactly one rabid right
winger on the motd, and one rabid left winger. No one else gives
a shit about your cute little shouting matches, but that won't stop
one of you from deleting this post like the small-minded weasel
that you are.
\_ s/winger/whinger
\_ One? Are you sure?
\_ who cares if this moron is "sure." they're provably wrong.
\_ Why do you think there's only 2 people out of hundreds on the
system that are interested in politics? A lot of us are out of
school and have found the world is more interesting than the latest
linux distro, the next bike ride, or how to fix pine. And why do
you think people interested in politics would delete a thread about
politics? That's senseless. Those threads get deleted by small
minded, zero-world-view people like yourself. In conclusion, I say
RIDE BIKE! USE LINUX! and How to do fixing mime header in pine?
\_ actually I think the bitter free republic url
posting person is all one guy
\_ So small minded people care about politics and the state of this
country?
\_ Yeah, that would seem fairly accurate, given the quality of
those people that are elected by the people that choose to vote. |
| 2003/3/31-4/1 [Politics/Foreign] UID:27927 Activity:low |
3/31 Amazing results when one does not take campaign finance bribes
from foreign governments:
From Beijing, stern words for an uneasy ally
http://csua.org/u/c10
\_ A result of more failed Bush 'diplomacy'. Clinton had a grip on
this for 8 years until that idiot stole his way into office.
\_ To you 'grip' defines covertly refining plutonium
and uranium
\_ That's right: actual domestic corruption is so much better than
alleged foreign contributions. |
| 2003/2/7 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign/Canada, Politics/Foreign] UID:27332 Activity:high |
2/6 http://www.csua.org/u/905 (Yahoo News) "Texas, the only U.S. state to have once been an independent country, ......" When did that happen??? \_ I think that Texas was an independent republic from 1830 to 1850 or so. It was part of the union by the 1860s during the civil war. \_ stfw: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/1845 \_ Lies. California was the Bear Flag Republic for a few weeks. \_ Canada still is. |
| 2003/1/9 [Politics/Foreign] UID:27042 Activity:high |
1/9 What means "My country, right or wrong"? Is it "America: Love it or
leave it" or "It's still my country, even though I'm under no
obligation to support the current administration"?
\_ Proof is left up to the reader.
\_ Neither.
\_ Neither, but closer to the first. It means: "As for me, I say,
Whether it is right or wrong 'It's still my country', so It
is my duty to support it". I was never a big fan of the quote
even when I was a big Patriot.
\_ Thank you. The reason I ask is that I happen to be proud
of the general idea of America and the potential of its
democratic institutions even though I thoroughly oppose
the current administration. It would appear, then, that
this slogan carries too many contrary connotations to
be useful to me. --op
\_ Yeah, we'd be much better off with a socialist like Gore in
office. You obviously need a slogan more like, "from each
according to his ability, to each according to his desire
and degree of slack laziness". Get a job, kid.
\_ Ah, the flamer answers. Got a job, bitch. You
need to get a moral compass that doesn't point
to your wallet. |
| 2002/11/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Foreign] UID:26527 Activity:very high |
11/13 In light of the pending sniper trial, do public defenders have
to defend someone even if it is against their will? Are they
assigned to a trial, or do they choose it themselves?
\_ everyone, even mass murderers, deserve a fair trial
in this country. anyway i'm sure there are plenty
of lawyers out there who would love to take
such a high profile trial. no they don't choose.
\_ Which leads us to the "napalm the fuckin barbarians" school of
law enforcement. -John
\_ everyone, even mass murderers, deserve a fair trial in this
country. anyway i'm sure there are plenty of lawyers out there who
would love to take such a high profile trial. no they don't choose.
\_ "deserve", or "are required to receive?"
\_ ...when the government feels like it. ever heard of
Kevin Mitnick?
\_ What about him? You're not one of those whining Mitnick
defenders who bought his line are you? RIDE BIKE!
\_ Mitnick got due process. He's also a fucking egotistical
moron. What's your point?
\_ There is only a requirement for competent representation and
that standard is very objective. There is no requirement for
effective representation. |
| 2002/9/23-24 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:25983 Activity:very high |
9/23 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29032 Where's a bleeding-heart liberal when you need one... \_ fool, it's okay because Black people are doing it \_ that's an interesting, sad story, and has popped up in the mainstream press, i'm not even going to make fun of you for posting news from World Net Daily. The pathetic attempt at the beginning to link 'enviro tree huggers' in this country to the Zimbabwe government is kind of funny though, what do they have to do with it? \_ PointerP to mainstream press about the wholesale slaughter of animals (including endangered species) in Zimbabwe? \_ Why would you make fun of him for posting from the WND? Are you ragging on it because you think the content is false such as "my baby is an alien" stories from the tabloids or because it has a conservative slant which is contrary to the leftist slant you're used to seeing from the self proclaimed mainstream? \_ Like so: because Mugabe is taking land from the white farmers and the whites knew it was coming, they didn't bother to plant anything this season. Without enough food, people have gone into the animal sanctuary areas and killed lots of animals for food. There's no real link. She's just pointing out the tree hugger types only whine about small local NIMBY issues and don't say anything about mass slaughter of protected animals somewhere else presumably because they think it's a-ok to take the white's land and land redistribution (to your family and cronies) is a good thing even if the consequences are starvation for everyone and dead animals in the sanctuaries. \_ what's wrong with whining about small local issues? do you live on the moon? I think presuming that "left leaning hippies" are a-ok with killing white people over land is presumptious. [rude interuption moved] \_ The problem is when you set aside your principles of "justice, fairness, and hey maybe let's not starve the entire country", in favor of some oddball ideal where land redistribution (to your cronies and family) is more important. \_ I don't know about Zimbabwe's case, but land redistribution is about justice and fairness. \_ Taking someone's land away and giving it to someone who doesn't know how to farm it--how is that just, fair, or even compassionate? \_ Why do you assume land redistribution necessarily mean giving the land to someone who doesn't know how to farm? \_ How do you learn to farm except by farming? The investment made by the current farmer in time and learning is lost. Historically any resource redistribution by government has been from the people who have a resource and know how to manage/use it to novices. Do you have a counterexample? \_ Ever heard of tenant farmers, who don't own the land but are employed by or pay rent to landlords? Sometimes, it's the land lords who have no idea of how to farm. You really need to study some history. Try history of Russia, India or China. Or closer to home, the South before the Civil War. \_ Land redistribution is good. No land redistribution in South America. That's why they remain fucked up countries forever. Land redistribution in Japan, Taiwan, Korea, that's why they became successful countries. It has nothing to do with white or non white. Stop playing the race card. \_ You have no clue what's going on in Zimbabwe. They're not redistributing the land. They're stealing it and giving it in whole to Mugabe's family and top 100 (or so) leading cronies in the military and government. That's not land redistribution in the way you mean it, my communist friend. And I didn't play the race card. That's something people from my part of the political spectrum don't do. \_ That communists do land redistribution does not mean land distribution equal communists. Get your facts straight. Land distribution when done right and under the right circumstances is good. Communists kill landlords, and also they collectivize farms and destroy market system for selling farm produce. Those are bad. So please don't label me a communist, thank you. I don't give a fuck what political spectrum you are from. As far as I can see both the right and the left play the race cards. Do you have a habit of labelling anyone who disagrees with your political views a communist? \_ bullshit, if white people where doing the killing and maiming you would want to send the military, but since it black people, it's okay. \_ I don't condone killing and maiming, but land redistribution itself is good in principle. Are the killing and maiming verified? From the reports I have read, there are some white farmers refusing to leave their land, and people are waiting to see if they will be arrested. \_ Read some newer reports. People already have been kicked off their land, beaten, raped, etc. Yes, it is verified. The land went to Mugabe's family and the top ~100 cronies in his government and military. \_ It is not land redistribution that is the problem, it is that Mugabe is an idiot and a thug. -!OP \_ Yes, well that's true enough. \_ More people would be outraged if more people knew. Instead, we are being inundated with stories like the mom who beat her kid. \_ That's the "mainstream press" in action. Bread n circuses. \_ Yeah. What's the big deal with parents beating kids? I was beaten by my mom all through my childhood. Now I'm an adult and I still think it was an effective way to discipline kids. |
| 2002/8/25-26 [Politics/Foreign] UID:25681 Activity:nil |
8/25 http://www.rock103.com/crew/showprep/media/worldcomexplained.html |
| 2002/5/7-8 [Politics/Foreign] UID:24741 Activity:high |
5/7 White woman fired for not speaking Spanish in government office.
http://www.wsvn.com/extra/helpmehoward/archives/view_story.html?storyid=20020501-182618
\_ Sorry, she can't claim discrimination, because she is white and it
is politically incorrect in this country for a white to say s/he is
being discriminated. -- Asian.
\_ Nothing wrong with this. She was the only white woman in an office
full of hispanics. So they called her racial slurs everyday and
her manager gave her 60 days to learn spanish (not required by law)
or get fired? Makes sense. I'm ok with it. She should be forced
to sell her house to pay reparations, too. |
| 2002/4/10-11 [Politics/Foreign] UID:24402 Activity:nil |
4/10 Refering to all this Queen Mum news, what's meant by "lying in state"?
\_ coffin (open or closed) available somewhere relatively public
where people can come see it and pay respects.
\_ from http://dictionary.com: 7. Ceremony; pomp: "foreign leaders dining in
state at the White House." Actually, the point is that they are in
the WH. The viewing is in a gov't building and she's being honored
by the gov't. |
| 2002/2/21 [Politics/Foreign, Politics] UID:23928 Activity:insanely high |
2/20 Does cremating a dead body cost a lot to the crematory? Why did that
crematory in Georgia bother to cheat? Isn't it more trouble to drag
a dead body into the woods than to use a few cents of gas to burn
it up?
\_ think about what kind of business oportunities exist in this
country and then try to understand the kind of guy who runs
a crematorium in georigia.
\_ read the fucking news articles.
\_ I just did.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020220/ap_on_re_us/corpses_discovered
And?
\_ It costs $25. Several articles mention it. --dim
\_ but is $25 worth the trouble?
\_ I see. Thanks.
\_ you're all sarcastic assholes. |
| 2002/1/12-13 [Politics/Foreign, Recreation/Music] UID:23548 Activity:kinda low |
1/12 On PBS I saw a "commercial" for the news hour with Jim Lehrer showing
the WTC bombing. People sitting in front of their TV watching it
and words like "there're some people we'll never understand". There's
a song playing in the background. Just a man singing with guitar
music I believe. It sounded like country music. Anybody know the name
of the song? Thanks.
\_ "Kinky Sex Makes the World Go Round", by the Dead Kennedys.
\_ Buffalo Springfield "For What It's Worth" |
| 2001/12/8 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign] UID:23183 Activity:nil |
12/7 Why isn't America on Palestine's side? If Mexico annexed California,
and forced us all to live in, say, Sacramento, we'd be pissed as hell.
And why do Jews need to have their own country? Do Christians need
their own country? Do white people need their own country?
\_ BTW, white people already have many of their own countries in
Europe. |
| 2001/11/27-28 [Politics/Foreign] UID:23109 Activity:very high |
11/26 http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~ilyas/problems/blue_eyes_suicide the king is not a citizen and is allowed to discuss appearances right? \_ The king is not a citizen, and he doesn't do anything except make the initial announcement. \_ is it legal for a citizen to tell another citizen that s/he should commit suicide? If so, and assuming that each person can only ask another person each day, then we have a lower limit of (2^28)/2 \_ Yes. It is legal for a citizen to tell another citizen just about anything. First Amendment. \_Wow, that's a pretty damn large country. Try 28. \_ assuming two blue-eyed ask each other the question "should I commit suicide", you'll always have one that is alive who doesn't know if he is blue-eyed or not, and will have to ask another person. Think like a binary tree. So assume the tree height is 28, then you have 2^28, no??? \_ No, that is an indirect way of saying "You have blue eyes." \_ crappy logic. remember everyone in the country can talk to everyone else in one day \_ The logic is, if there's only one person with blue eyes, he'll see everyone else, realize he must have blue eyes, and kill himself. If there are two people with blue eyes, they'll each see one person with blue eyes, then the second day, when they realize the other person didn't commit suicide, they figure out that there must be two people with blue eyes, so they must have blue eyes, so they commit suicide. Etc. n=28. It's a stupid problem. -tom \_ But why do they wait one day? Doesn't the king say you are supposed to kill yourself immediately? \_ they don't know until they've seen everyone else. they see everyone else once a day. Like I said, it's a stupid problem. -tom \_ "when they realize the other person didn't commit suicide, they figure out that there must be two people with blue eyes, so they must have blue eyes"... I don't follow this logic. Wouldn't a person with brown eyes think the exact same thing, leading to false suicides? I guess what I'm wondering about is how would the first blue eyed person know to commit suicide. \_ No. Assume he sees everyone else in town each day and knows exactly the number of people with brown eyes and blue eyes, except himself, and has the ability to deduce how many should be dead after the Nth day. \_ The fun part is the 29th day where everyone commits suicide because they haven't seen anyone with blue eyes all day long. \_ funny, but wrong. \_ why is it wrong? on the 29th day how do people know that all the blue eyed people are dead? \_ day 28: you see 28 blue-eyed people, who kill themselves later that day. day 29: you don't see any blue-eyed people. all your blue-eyed friends are found dead. this means you aren't blue-eyed. \_ This is old. This exact same "problem" has been around for decades that I know of and maybe longer. The names change but the math stays the same. Like tom said, it's a stupid problem. \_ No, I think it's stupid because it's linked off of ilyas' web page. It must have gotten some of his stupidity by osmosis or something. -- ilyas \_ fizban needs bat guano. \_ that's the name of the fictional game Kirk comes up with TOS episode "A piece of the action" \_ Do you want points for that? |
| 2001/11/8-9 [Politics/Foreign] UID:22979 Activity:moderate 66%like:22988 |
11/8 Is there any truth to this (Israeli detained for celebrating WTO)? http://www.americanfreepress.net/11_03_01/Suspects_Still_Held/suspects_still_held.html \_ are you serious? look around the website. I don't know where to start, the racist christian identity site banners? new world order paranoia? ok i actually agree with http://www.americanfreepress.net/08_25_01/Banksters_to_Discuss_Phony_Age/banksters_to_discuss_phony_age.html \_ Well, if I thought it was a credible source I wouldn't have asked here on the motd :-), but just because someone is, say, racist, does not mean everything he says is false. The reason I searched and found that article is that an Israeli friend with no sympathy for Arabs learned from an Israeli newspaper that a dozen Israeli had been detained since 9/11 for simply taping the events and are now represented by Alan Dershowitz, something I have never heard of. Also, I do distinctively remember in the day of the attack, TV news reported "several Middle-eastern looking people were arrested in NY after being seen celebrating," just as related in the article above. But I never heard what happened to them afterward. \_ They were released. |
| 2001/11/4-5 [Politics/Foreign] UID:22931 Activity:high |
10/4 please reccomend a power strip that can be given an I.P. Address
for the purposes of remote hard rebooting?
\_ Running Windows are you? Poor bastard. Power strips won't do that.
Look into a smart UPS.
\_ recommendations? a smart-ups is probably preferable. I just
said power-strip because i used to have one that i called to
reboot. (you could plug a phone line into it and set # of rings)
\_ oh that's really bright with all the random-number-dialer
telemarketers around.
\_ Send $1 to "Happy Dude" at 742 Evergreen Terrace.
\_ MasterSwitch is $300-500? Look it up.
\_ to add to the above, masterswitch is made by APC. http://www.apc.com --jon |
| 2001/9/19-20 [Politics/Foreign] UID:22542 Activity:high |
9/19 How did Megawati Sukarnoputri, a woman, become the president of
Indonesia, an Islamic nation? Thanks.
\_ She is Sukarno's daughter. "The People" believe she is influenced
by her dead father. She has actually said in public speaches that
\_ She is Sukarno's daughter. People believe she is influenced
by her dead father. She has actually said in public speeches that
to be the leader of some backwards country, it is because they are
related to some deceased national figure. -crebbs
her father came to her in a dream and told her ... . You will
usually find that when some female is the leader or in contention
to be the leader of some backwards country, she is related to
some deceased national figure. -crebbs
\_ But I thought females are considered inferior in Islamic
countries, and men are unwilling to take orders from women. Not
true?
\_ Then why is her last name Sukarnoputri instead of Sukarno? |
| 2001/9/19 [Politics/Foreign] UID:22537 Activity:very high |
9/19 "[T]here is a minority of intellectual pacifists whose real though
unadmitted motive appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration of
totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that one
side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the writings of
younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do not by any means
express impartial disapproval but are directed almost entirely against Britain
and the United States. Moreover they do not as a rule condemn violence as
such, but only violence used in defence of western countries." -George Orwell,
"Notes on Nationalism," 1945.
\_ Yes, my real motive is hatred of Western democracy and
admiration of totalitarianism.
\_ It said "minority of .." though, since you are a dumb pacifist
I guess i shouldn't be able to expect you to read.
\_ George Orwell needs a writing and "clear thinking" class.
\_ Yes, in 1945, Britain is still a imperialist country
ruling its colonies in a totalitarian manner.
Obviously, George Orwell supports Britain irregardless of
Obviously, George Orwell supports Britain regardless of
whether it is a imperialistic country or not.
\_ no, you are both morons. George Orwell is arguably the
greatest essayist of this century. He wrote extensively
and honostly about Britain's Imperialism. You two are
ignorant idiots. (and cowards, like me).
honostly and criticly about Britain's Imperialism. You
two are ignorant idiots. (and cowards, like me).
two are ignorant idiots. (and cowards, like me). -011
\_ whatever. brave and somewhat coherent i can buy.
Obviously, he supports Britain disregarding whether
it is a imperilistic country or not.
\_ Somone asked if there was a URL (I assume they wanted
something in support of my statement).
http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/shoot.htm -011
\_ okay, that article was entertaining
\_ Y3AH D00D!!!1!! TH3N THAT 0RW3LL D0RK CAN CUM BACK 2 S0DA
AND M1X 1T UP W1TH TH3 MASTUR K0MMUNIKATORS L13K US WH0
R1T3 AN0NYMUS 0N3-L1N3 M0TD P0STS!!!!1!!!! |
| 2001/9/13 [Politics/Foreign] UID:36291 Activity:nil |
9/12 U.S. Foreign Policy
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3ba03b327f42.htm |
| 2001/9/13 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:22430 Activity:very high |
9/13 All we hear is that the FBI is doing this, the FBI is doing that. Is
the CIA too embarrassed to come out and is hiding under its pillow?
\_ The CIA cannot be expected to know everything about every plot. This
isn't "1984". I think the real culprit is US airport security.
\_ But it seems like the CIA have missed a lot of big incidents in
recent years: The fall of Berlin Wall, the fall of USSR, the
bombing of US Embessies in Africa, the attack of USS Cole, and
Tuesday's attack, to name a few.
\_ The CIA is too busy to hold press conferences.
\_ The CIA has been held back from aggressively defending this nation
and its interests by the namby pamby love peace dope crowd. Its
time we let them do *WHATEVER* is required to defend america and
her people.
\_ The CIA has been held back from aggressively defending this nation
and its interests by the namby pamby love peace dope crowd (it all
started with JFK and the Bay of Pigs). Its time we let them do
*WHATEVER* is required to defend america and her people.
\_ The CIA and NSA budget are at least 100 times as large
as they were duing the Kennedy era. That does not qualify
as being "held back." How much support will we insist
on giving these fools before we realize the entire
system should be scrapped and rebuilt from scratch?
\_ Executive Order 12333 will be lifted very soon i predict
But CIA Director George Tenet will lose his job over this.
\_ What's 12333 about?
\_ Take a look at:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/information/eo12333.html
\_ do you maybe mean specifically section 2.11 of 12333?
\_ Most likely sections 2.4-6, 8, 9, 11 and 12 will
change. |
| 2001/9/7 [Politics/Foreign] UID:22345 Activity:very high |
9/7 I heard that there's a US military base in Cuba. Why does Fidel Castro
allow a US base in his communist country?
\_ Because he and his puny little shit hole government can't do jack
about it. If he attacks it, there won't be enough of cuba left
to call an island.
\_ "You can't handle the truth!" --jessup
\_ When was the base at Guantanamo leased to the US?
\_ Why the fuck don't we just send in the marines and arrest Castro
and his puny ass?!
\_ He hasn't broken any laws in the US. DUH.
\_ He is a fucking dictator! |
| 2001/8/14-15 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:22112 Activity:high |
8/14 What's the purpose of an air show with military aircrafts? Why would
a country want to let other countries know what their jet fighers
can and cannot do?
\_ intimidation
\_ in this day and age, it can be an advertisement -- buy my MIGs!
\_ it's a major recruiting tool, and PR stunt. Plus what they show
at the shows is already known. The airshows held in the states
are for the public and are quite frankly very boring compared
to the ones at industry air shows held in UK and Paris. There
the Russians come and show off their stuff and challenge others
to do the same (certain Su-27 are more acrobatic than anything but
the F-22). You get to see things like the An-225 Cossack, too.
the baddest MF cargo plane on the planet
\_ Isn't the Su-37 far more acrobatic than the F-22?
\_ I think Pearl Harbor the recent movie gave away our biggest tactic
of playing chicken with each other and making the enemy follow and
crash
\_ The air show is that industry's equivalent of a trade conference.
All the stuff for public consumption is usually a side product.
You're not seeing the 3rd worlders in th background writing checks. |
| 2001/7/5 [Politics/Foreign] UID:21714 Activity:very high |
7/4 Silly americans, celebrating freedom from taxation by watching
re-enactments of the last challenger liftoff.
\_ err.. 8 million lbs of fuel blowing up and taking 7 lives
is not the same thing as watching gunpowder explode with colors.
that's pretty insensitive statement. you try being an astronaut
or find a better country, else shut the fuck up.
\_ An insensitive Republican? Why, I never would have thought that.
\_ I think the said comment is in very bad taste, but leave
it up to a liberal to bring in emotion and 'how I feel' into
politics. Government is not meant to make you feel good,
or be nice to you. See a shrink if you need dignity and
self-esteem.
\_ it's pretty simple, either love this country or get the fuck out
\_ I am no country. I have no style. |
| 2001/6/11 [Politics/Foreign] UID:21474 Activity:very high |
6/11 RIH Timothy McVeigh.
\_RIP
\_ I hope he doesn't rest in peace. rot in hell is quite apt.
\_ Rot in hell, cool. I was originally thinking "rest in hell"
when I wrote it.
\_ "Relax in Hottub"
\_ What's the big deal about this guy anyway? Who gives a damn
whether or not he lives/dies and where he goes after he dies.
\_ I think a good number of Oklahomans care if he lived/died.
Where he goes after simply makes for good motd trolling.
\_ he's not going anywhere, he's gone. eternal void, dust to dust
\_ What if there was no heaven?
\_ Explain to me how killing innocents because you were told
to by the govm't in an attempt to preserve the nation's economic
health warrants a medal and killing innocents because your
conscience tells you to in an attempt to reclaim the nation's
freedom warrants the death penalty. It seems to me the latter
is a little higher on the morality scale. |
| 2001/5/14 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign] UID:21275 Activity:nil |
5/13 Wanted : US military/trade secrets.
\_ yermom is fat and ugly
\_ !secret
\_ now that's just wrong - it's mother's day!
\_ every day is yermom's day
\_ Check the LBL website or ask a foreign visitor.
\_ contact your friendly local chinese scientist, they are
more than willing to sell thier souls and this country
to the dregges of humanity |
| 2001/5/9 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Foreign] UID:21217 Activity:nil |
5/8 The US, while having a democratic society with balance of power,
behaves like a bully internationally. There is no sense of
right or wrong, good or bad. It only does things that serve
its own selfish interest, in the name of peace, human rights,
and so on. It likes to see small trouble in the world so it
can make a fortune on selling weapons to fuel it's own
economy, but not too big of a trouble that it cannot control.
The US was nothing before WWII, and the fortune it made
selling weapons during WW II is the basis of its economic
wealth. Like a mouse that has tasted good food, it wants to
continue sell and develop weapons, and it needs to create a
market for it. It is NOT in the US's best interest to see the
world a better and peaceful place, it is NOT in the US's
interest to see any country that becomes prosperous, their
citizen lives a good life and becomes wealthy, whether they
are the enemy or not. It's government works hard to support
segregation forces that seeks to break apart large countries
so they have less chance of becoming prosperous and
independent. Small countries rely on imports more and suffer
badly from economic sanction, a tool the US can use very
effectively on small countries that does no obey this self
proclaimed international cop.
For the world to be a better place, there needs to be a
balance of power like the system we have. There needs to be a
check and balance, and frankly, the US is stirring up flames
in the world rather than to keep the world a better place. |
| 2001/5/5 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign] UID:21170 Activity:nil |
5/4 http://www.vny.com/cf/news/upidetail.cfm?QID=182866 my favorite line: China frequently accuses the United States of acting as if it is above the law and Friday's commentary said "the Bush administration's behavior in the past 100 days has illustrated that an ultra-self-centered 'America first' attitude is gaining more ground in U.S. foreign policy." Imagine that? America's foreign policy would dare to put American interests first? I'm ashamed to be a citizen of a country that doesn't put the rest of the world first.... |
| 2001/2/9-10 [Politics/Foreign] UID:20543 Activity:moderate |
2/8 Anybody tried mailing seeds outside the country? Do most countries
allow this? I'm sending some seeds to Tunisia, but I'm asking about
this in general. Thanks.
\_ I don't know about shipping seeds out of the country, but I
have received seeds from out of the country (Chile) just fine.
\_ most countries will have SERIOUS problem when they got seeds
from foreign country. The proper route is to go through
custom, and it WILL take forever. When you sending the seeds
out, I doubt U.S. is going to have problem with that, but you
better check on Tunisia.
\_ Agree that the legal way is to go through customs.
But, I would sooner just send them in a regular
envelope, and take my chances. How are you going to
contact the Tunisia plant permit people, anyway?
\_ I also received seeds just fine from the Netherlands. How
will anyone know there are seeds in there unless you're
sending enough for them to sow a whole field? --dim |
| 2000/12/10 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:20059 Activity:high |
12/8 Welcome to the United States of Texas. All hail Emporor Bush.
\_ Your spelling proficency is quite awe inspireing.
\_ That's how Bush would have wanted it spelled.
\_ 4 years from now there will be absolutely no
difference no matter who's in office: the country
is run by bickering idiots who can't get anything done,
who care more about their own pockets and party
politics than public welfare or the well being of
the greater country and world about them.
\_ Well, if you had supported someone else
during the primaries we wouldn't have had a fucking
idiot like Bush or someone as off-the-wall as
Gore running against each other. |
| 2000/11/16 [Politics/Foreign] UID:19795 Activity:nil |
11/16 Sobering opinion from http://law.com: <DEAD>206.245.152.43/cgi-shl/shownews.pl?id=6471<DEAD> |
| 2000/10/19-20 [Politics/Foreign] UID:19524 Activity:high |
10/18 No middle eastern country is a good country. Let's leave it at that.
\_ here here!
\_ that's "hear hear", xenophobic moron
\_ what does hear hear mean?
\_ "listen, listen!" |
| 2000/10/17-18 [Politics/Foreign] UID:19500 Activity:very high |
10/17 import edu.berkeley.english.mcdonalds.*
import edu.berkeley.xcf.coolstuff.*
import edu.berkeley.cs.research.*
import edu.berkeley.csua.sysadmin.*
What do you import?
\_ I don't go in for imports. Buy American.
\_ Bridgestone tires. Nuff said?
\_ Its really to bad that we have given all of our manufacturing
to asia.
\_ We didn't "give" anything.
\_ please supply frame of reference.
\_ more like "please supply trailing ;" |
| 2000/4/19-20 [Reference/Law, Politics/Foreign] UID:18052 Activity:high |
4/20 On Monday April 24, two cyberspace and intellectual property
specialists from Australia, Brian and Anne Fitzgerald, will be
visiting Berkeley and giving a talk on recent developments in
software intellectual property law in Australia. They are both
very smart and charming people, and I think you'll find it very
stimulating to hear what they have to say about issues we've been
studying through the lenses of another advanced industrial
economy's laws. The event will be at 4pm in Rm 124 of Boalt Hall
(which is on Bancroft near Piedmont). Hope to see you there.
\_ Another advanced industrial country? But you said they're from
Australia. I'm confused. Are they from an advanced industrial
nation or not?
\_ Many words for dumb joke.
\_ What joke? huh?
\_ Redundant |
| 2000/3/21-22 [Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:17814 Activity:very high |
3/20 link:www.yale.edu/implicit/measure3.html I'm an Asian male with a strong automatic preference for blacks. Is there something wrong with me? \_ all that proved to me was I was incapable of remembering which key was associated with which keyword. \_ White male with weak auto pref. for blacks. I also associate men and women equally with science, apparently. \_ apparently your subconscious is not very bright. (not due to the weak auto pref. for blacks due to the = men/women). \_ I'm a White male with a strong automatic preference for Asians. Especially if they happen to be female and hot. Is there something wrong with me? something wrong with me? -aaron \_ me too! -nickkral \_ me three! - sky \_ Damn rice chaser! \_ is that you jj? \_ The test is hokey. Definitely not "science" in my book. All it shows is the speed of building cognitive relations not your "implicit attitudes".. Well what can you expect from a liberal arts school like Yale, they have nothing better to do than shit like this. \_ every school has idiots doing pseudo science. Yale just got 500 million dollars earmarked for expansion of the engineering and sciences and they are hiring like mad. do you think berkeley should be judged by the chicano studies or sociology departments? \_ Do you have a link to this? I'm thinking about going there for grad school in the fall. \_ Oh woe! An online test with no proctor determines we're all evil racists! What next? I don't think these guys understand that what they _think_ they're testing for is not what they're _really_ testing for. Even the lower div. Cal psych classes do better than this. \_ I'm betting that the first section always starts with "white+good". Which automatically biases ALL takers. \_ which association comes up first definitely primes the results. doesn't seem like this test says anything at all. \_ it doesn't. Not that the test isn't crap. -aspo who took a couple of tests several times and got way different results each time. \_ You can't take a test several times without 'ruining' the results. It also isn't appropriate to take a battery of similar memory tests like this and expect valid results. This is really basic psych/cogsci testing methodology and I find it sad that a school like Yale can't get it right. What does that say for the rest of the country's colleges? \_ thankfully, not a goddamn thing. \_ I hope you're right. \_ Your neurotic pseudo-pessimistic generalizations are annoying. Please stop. \_ right, trust a psych experiment conducted by yale over the advice of a bunch of anonymous motd posters! \_ point being that this isn't an experiment conducted by anyone. this isn't a valid test method. it isn't even bad science. this is something down there with the astrology section of the comics. \_ The story about this on Dateline pointed out that just as interesting as the results was people's reaction to them. \_ Woo hoo! Thus proving their test group consisted mostly of self-"correct"-ing guilty whites. I'm white and I'm damned proud of it. We built this country. Blacks are killing it from the inner cities outwards. \_ It's the chinks that built this country, so fuck you. Go back to Europe white barbarian. Long live Mao. \_ Shut up, white boy! \_ The Jews built this country. The Jews built every country. They are the God's CHOSEN people. AND they have all the gold. Again. \_ Not "again". "Still" is the word you're looking for. -Mark of Kings \_ What a load of crap! No slant ever did anything worth half a damn for this country! \_ What did you personally do to build this country besides mouthing off your racist trash? And by the way, stop using Yahoo. \_ I beat slants like you into place and what's Yahoo got to do with anything? \_ are all CSUA users like this? \_ No. Only about half the CSUA is slants. \_ What did you personally do to build this country besides mouthing off your racist trash? \_ Already told you, slant boy. Most whites felt guilty over preffering whites, but the blacks who preferred blacks attributed it to racial pride and overcoming the negative images of blacks that pervade american culture/media. \_ That's about political correctness. Sigh. \_ SUBTHREAD SUMMARY: Too many sodans have time on their hands to troll aimlessly. \_ You're an idiot. Your summary sucks. Stop 'summarizing' humorous subthreads with your inadequate summaries. |
| 1999/12/1-2 [Politics/Foreign] UID:16985 Activity:high |
11/30 O.k. without breaking out the knee-jerk, John Birch society
nonsense, can someone tell me what is wrong with the WTO?
N.B. I don't want to hear from any whiny "their stealing our
jobs" morons either. If you don't accept the basic tenent that
free/open trade is good, you are to far removed from my values
for any dialogue to be useful.
\_ What's up with the knee-jerk "free market" is good nonsense? We
do not live in a free market economy in the US. The rest of the
world is even less free. IMO, you're confused about the way it is.
\_ the United States was formed to get away from being controlled
by foreign governments, but the WTO is superceding US Laws
overwriting the will of the people of the US, there it is sort
of like destroying your freedom and giving it back to the New world
\_ The WTO has only one goal: to make money for it's members at any
cost. I'm all forcapitalism but not the free wheeling totally
open no laws market the WTO fosters. For those confused about
the US, we do *not* have a free market economy. Our economy is
very controlled and regulated. That's why you can still drink
the water and breath the air (mostly). The WTO version of the world
would sell you a gas mask, bottled water from their water
purification plant, and serve you tuna with a healthy amount of
dolphin mixed in (as long as we still have dolphins and they don't
harvest the tuna to extinction). Money at all costs. There are
no other considerations to the WTO. If you like being able to
breath the air, drink the water, and walk the earth, you'll be
against the WTO. It has nothing to do with the JBS. Free and open
trade is good, but not totally free everything at the expense of
the future.
order scum.
\_ Exactly.
\_ What specific US Law is the WTO going to supercede?
The US is not an isolated nation. It's going to
have to trade with other nations, or lose out. So,
the question is, given the above, is WTO beneficial
to the US as compared to no WTO, or a WTO without
\_ I just love how a group that is nothing more than a glorified
the US. I agree that environmental and labor
concerns should be looked into, but this irrational
total rejection of it is silly.
\_ I rationally reject an organisation that seeks to punish the
\_ urlP? (riotP?)
\_ Will that effect my stock option price ?
US and declare illegal our environmental laws because some
South Americans were upset that we wouldn't let their
polution creating products into our country. I rationally
reject an organisation that seeks to punish the US and
delcare illegal our denial of tuna from other nations that
was not harvested in a dolphin safe manner. I rationally
reject the WTO and all other multinational mega corps that
are responsible to no one. I rationally reject the One
World Government. I'm willing to trade quite happily with
other nations but not at the expense of the environment
because other nations find sloppy tuna fishing to be easier
and more profitable.
\_ 1. you are right, it's mostly a bunch of whiney
"they're stealing our jobs that we would never do for that
pay anyway" people
2. They ARE stealing our spelling, apparently.
\_ woops, speaking of morons, apparently, i can lump me
into that group. However, you are being too kind
referring to the their/they're error as a spelling
error. Umm, i mean I MEANT to do that. It's a quote! i
was making fun of those people, dummy.
\_ No, you just can't spell. You're an idiot.
\_ jus love how a group that is nothing more than a glorified
multinational multi-corporation lobbying group uses a .org
domain name. Phillip.
\_ The WTO overturns local & national laws in the name of fair trade,
even consumer protection and environmental protection laws.
\_ Wow. S.O. couldn't convince the consumers pollution is good.
It couldn't convince the government. It couldn't BRIBE the
government. So now it's trying to make the government
irrelevant.
\_ what's S.O.?
\_ Standard Oil |
| 1999/11/12-15 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:16869 Activity:low |
11/11 Anybody know of a web site (gov't or otherwise) that have economic
data like M1 and M2 numbers? Thanks.
\_ ask a better question.
\_ Probably one of the links from
http://www.census.gov/econ/www
will have money supply stuff. They definitely have "economic
data" in general. |
| 1999/8/2 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Foreign] UID:16223 Activity:high |
8/2 http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9908/02/ucita.idg Now, it is legal for Microsoft's Windows 2000 to use the internet to check the validity of the license, and disable Win2000 remotely. This is BAD for pirates like us. \_ Can you say "input firewall rule"? ipchains -A input -j REJECT -s <DEAD>.microsoft.com<DEAD> \_ it is? all you have to do is blackhole *.microsoft.com via routing. But the UCITA is bad for other reasons. \_ Its already dangerous to put a windoze machine on the net. \_ pirates can surely still crack the licensing mechanism. \_ such as ... ? \_ This sounds like a great ODS attack. Can anyone say bo2k plug-in? |
| 1999/3/23 [Politics/Foreign] UID:15633 Activity:nil |
3/22 Call your representatives in the government to protest against
US invasion of the soverign state of Yugoslavia. You cannot
bomb a country because it refuses to secede an integral part of
its territory.
\_ unpalatable as it may be, killing Yugos by NATO will occur.
In the final analysis, I think this will turn out to be a good,
albeit painful thing ... |
| 1998/10/7 [Politics/Foreign] UID:14744 Activity:insanely high |
10/06 Lila is unfit to be root.
\_ Mr Anonymous is, of course, the ultimate authority.
We should trust him. He will lead us out of the darkness.
\_ Let's give Mr Anonymous root!
\_ sodomize lila!
\_ Already did. What of it?
\_ Lila is the coolest. It is not acceptable to diss Lila.
In the old country, our people would put a cap in the ass
of anyone who disses Lila. I've been very happy with the
way Lila has performed as root. -thepro
\_ But who cares what "your people" would do in the old country,
because the closest thing the old country has to a computer is
a 1952 Burroughs mechanical adding machine that your cousin
Guido stole from the US Embassy's trash heap. And "root" is
something that they dig up at the stroke of midnight and rub
on warts to keep witches away . . . YOU'RE AN AMERICAN NOW,
SO ABANDON YOUR FREAKISH FOREIGN CUSTOMS AND START ACTING
LIKE ONE.
\_ I didn't write the above, but I'd like to enlist
whoever did in the Buchanan brigades with me. -ax |
| 1993/9/10 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:31398 Activity:nil |
9/8 The National Performance Review - Vice President Al Gore's report on
reinventing government is now available in http://sunsite.unc.edu via WWW,
gopher, ftp and wais. (Use "gopher http://sunsite.unc.edu" to get there) |
| 1993/6/25 [Reference/History, Politics/Foreign, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:31370 Activity:nil |
3/31 Just a reminder that things which appear below the dotted
line could have been written by anyone, regardless of what
signature appears on the end, and don't necessarily reflect
what actual CSUA policy is.
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Cory Notes:
If you see an unattended package/backpack/padded envelope in the public
computing areas, leave it alone and call the building manager, Aleta Cook.
This is at the request of an admin-type-chick from upstairs.
There is a rash of mail bombs going off in academic institutions across
the country right now ... Cory Hall has been victimized twice in the past
(mid 80's). There are rumors that the FBI actually believes this recent
wave is in fact related to the same source that caused the two bombings
in Cory in the past. |
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