10/19   Do you think Obama will have to send in troops to put down rioting
        Southern Whites after the election?
        http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/race/100262race-ra.html
        \_ south = stupid

12/14   'Romney adopts KKK slogan: "Keep America American"'
        http://www.csua.org/u/uzw (http://www.americablog.com
        \_ Not really. He is saying Keep America America.

3/4     Good series of three posts from angry sysadmin:
        http://market-ticker.denninger.net
        \_ Geez, this guy makes Roubini seem like a flaming optimist.  His
           predictions are so dire and insane that they aren't even worth
           listening to.
           \_ It's an angry sysadmin.  Isn't that the definition of
              not worth listening to?  "Big cities are at risk of
              becoming a free-fire death zone."  I mean really?
              \_ let's take it from the opposite direction:  Which of his
                 predictions do you think will come true, if any?
                 \_ I think this guy makes the homeless man screaming
                    outside my window look downright hinged.
                    \_ please answer the question
                 \_ So when some crazy person is screaming about the cia
                    bugging his teeth do you give serious consideration to
                    his ideas as well?
                    \_ *shrug*, more power to you
                     \_ Free-fire death zones!  The government is going
                        to nationalize all 401ks!  30% unemployment!
                        Really?  Let me guess, you googled Ron Paul.
                 \_ why are you deleting responses to your idiocy?
           \_ I wonder what time frame he was thinking of.  BTW, this is very
              useful to me, since I will go down the list of predictions and
              say:  Yes, this will happen; this is possible, but x and y need
              to happen first; govt will take care of these in this order;
              signal w will happen before z.  I got a helluva lot out of it.
              If you want insane predictions, see: -op
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJ7LM3iyNg
           \_ He neglects to consider the impact of the imminent collapse of
              Mexico.
              \_ Q. If Mexico collapses, should we take over?
                 \_ Only if a larg majority of Mexicans beg us to.  And even
                    then, perhaps we're better off not touching it with a
                    10ft pole.

11/6    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9a_1210061726&p=1
        KKK leader claims Obama will be assassinated.
        \_ I thought KKK endorsed Obama in light of Hillary's bid. :-)

8/3     I have lived in N Cal all my life and have had a very sheltered
        and liberal life. Actually it's pretty deprived as well. I've
        never been to the South, and I'm wondering how accurate the
        portrayal of the hicks are in the movie Sweet Home Alabama?
        \_ No. Hollywood is exaggerated.
           \_ What does North Hollywood have to do with it?
              \_ OP was wondering how accurate the portrayal in a Hollywoor
                 movie was.  Perhaps PP meant "Hollywood is exaggeratING."
        \_ The South has been homogenized just like the rest of America -
           so you'll see lots of the same fast food restaurants, parking
           lots, and big box stores.  More churchs, although this actually
           applies more to Missouri than the "proper" South.  Folks there are
           generally the same mix of friendly and ignorant you'll find in
           any other suburb, though the accents are a little different.  The
           cities are just as urban as anywhere else.  Honestly Americans are
           much more alike than they'd like to think - regional differences
           are much more superficial now than they have ever been.  This was
           likely very different, say, 100 years ago, when travel was much
           more difficult and expensive, and mass media consisted only of
           newspapers.
        \_ It depends on where you visit. If you go to Chapel Hill, you will
           people as open minded and cosmopolitan as anywhere in California.
           find people as open minded and cosmopolitan as anywhere in CA.
           If you go to rural Kentucky, you will feel like you are in another
           country. In general, the cities are like cities everywhere in
           America, maybe a little more tolerant, since there is more black-
           white race mixing. Rural areas can be kind of scary. I was in
           Asheboro, NC last year and I saw a photo of the "old time" local
           Klan chapter up on the wall of an antique store I was visiting.
           I am sure he was just showing off a bit of local history, but
           I think he was making a statement about how he felt about race
           relations at the same time. He was not very friendly to my
           Asian wife. Are you planning on visiting? If so, I can give you
           some pointers. I was stationed in NC for three years and learned
           some things about how to relate to Southerners.
        \_ I own a house in Alabama in a smaller city, my mom lives in
           Missouri near the Arkansas border (but Missouri is Midwest and
           not The South), and my mom-in-law lives near Biloxi, Mississippi.
           I've spent a lot of time in The South and not just in Atlanta,
           Tampa, or New Orleans as I've done some touring of the rural areas
           by car. I don't really remember the movie, except that the
           seemingly redneck guy turns out to be a successful artist, which is
           \_ But all his friends are trashy, like the friend who keeps
              suggesting "Wanna arrest someone?" "Strip club?" etc etc
           pretty typical of The South. Yes, people are bigoted there and
           not just by race but also by religion. You even find a divide
           between regular church-going people and occasional church-goers
           and even the enlightened think Jews and Asians are novel/neat
           as in "There's this Jewish fella over there. His family's been here
           for 2 generations and he don't cause no trouble. He done told
           me he don't eat no pork. Can you believe that?" Of course, I
           found people in New England to be just as bigoted against WASPs,
           so I hardly want to single out The South. Southerners also tend
           to be classist as in Old Money versus New Money. I think
           found people in New England to be just as bigoted against (other
           than) WASPs, so I hardly want to single out The South. Southerners
           also tend to be classist as in Old Money versus New Money. I think
           everywhere might be like that, but it's very evident there
           because there are so few wealthy folks to begin with.
           \_ Yeah, New England types are much more unfriendly, even stuck up.
           found people in New England to be just as bigoted against non-WASPs
           so I hardly want to single out The South. Southerners also tend to
           be classist as in Old Money versus New Money. I think everywhere
           might be like that, but it's very evident there because there are so
           few wealthy folks to begin with.
           \_ Yeah, New England types are much less friendly, even stuck up.

7/16    How did I miss this? Keith John Sampson was accused of racial
        harassment for reading an anti-KKK history book
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25680655 (AP)
        http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/9490.html (WSJ op-ed, funny)
        \_ When did we as a nation reach a point where "I can candidly say
           that we regret this situation took place" works as an apology?
           What the hell's wrong with, "We acted incorrectly, and we
           apologize."?

6/2     Obama is willing to ditch his own church in order to win the election.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama
        How faithful.
        \_ After hanging out with the Klan for 20 years, he decides it's
           politically expedient to leave.
           \_ Yeah, the Klan.  That's right.  What an apt analogy.  I mean
              it's SO obvious.
              \_ You're right. It's just as racist, but doesn't physically harm
                 people.  ^the Klan^his co-racists
                 \_ The crazy is strong in this one.
        \_ Didn't we beat this horse a few day ago?
        \_ Give it up, you have already lost the election. Prepare yourself
           for at least four years and probably eight years of being in the
           \_ Obama is going to implode, trust me.
              \_ Why should I trust you? What other predictions have you made
                 that were on the mark?
                 \_ Well, it looks to me like he's already imploding.  Obama!
                    The only guy who could lose to the R's in '08! -!pp
                    \_ What the hell are you talking about?  Are you the
                       person who thinks Obama wants to rape all the white
                       wimmin?
                       \_ I don't remember THAT post on the motd. -pp
                    \_ http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
                       Imploding.
                       \_ That's a very strange def of imploding

5/31    Obama resigns from controversial church
        http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/31/obama.church/index.html
        Ha ha!
        \_ I thought he disavowed Wright long ago?
           \_ He disavowed Wright a few weeks (month?) back, but Wright
           \_ He disabowed Wright a few weeks (month?) back, but Wright
              had actually retired as Pastor before that.  So Obama was
              still a member of the church under a different pastor.
        \_ ...after a white Roman Catholic priest, acting as a guest
           pastor, delivered a racially charged sermon. Yes, kids,
           truth is stranger than fiction.
        \_ After hanging out with the Klan for 20 years, he decides it's
           politically expedient to leave.

4/9     Oops, Obama's *oder* spiritual adviso' be also some racist
        anti-American. 'S coo', bro.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2M11BsA3g
        (Note da damn 'house-nigger' usage, 'typical honky man', etc.)

2/26    Go hillary!
        \_ kkk endorses Obama, says anything's better than hillary:
           http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1227
           \_ Ha ha!  That's a good one.
        \_ Stick a fork in it.  She's done.
           \_ I'm still hoping that she and the superdelegates will rip the
              Democratic party apart.
              \_ And they hope you'll choke on your O'Doul's and pretzel.

2/24    The most awesome and heartwarming example of the Internet's ability
        to bring people together in harmony:
        http://www.jdunderground.com/thread.php?threadId=11218
        \_ [Racist provocation] Is there more to it than just that?
           \_ Just another data point on this wonderful invention called
              the intarweb.

10/31   Fred Phelps gets $11 million spanking.
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071031/ap_on_re_us/funeral_protests
        \- are naive "force or fraud" libertarians outraged?
           \_ This verdict is absurd and will be overturned. Phelps clearly
              has free speech protection here. Plus, isn't Phelps like the
              best troll ever?
        \_ It will be reduced later of course, but it would be SO SAD if people
           started suing him nonstop and his whole fucked up church went
           bankrupt paying legal fees continuously.
           \- worked against some klan "klavens" ...
              http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html etc
              \_ When Phelps starts lynching people let us know.

9/10    White power!
        http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Israel-Neo-Nazis.html
        \_ '"The tragic irony in this is that they would have been chosen for
           annihilation by the Nazis they strive to emulate," the ADL said.'
           Indeed.

6/21    Powell was threatened by the KKK to not run for presidency.  Did Obama
        receive such thread also?
        \_ He was the first candidate to be assigned a secret service detail.
           Glean from that what you will.
           \_ Well, a canidate must request secret service protection.  So, he
        \_ We don't threaten nobody but we support all Republicans   -kkk
           \_ Well, a candidate must request secret service protection.  So, he
              asked for it.  There may or may not be a good reason for that.
              \_ I think the above statement is incorrect.
           \_ Hillary, as First Lady, has had it since 1992.

4/23    "This guy had to be a liberal. You start railing against the rich and
        all this other -- this guy's a liberal. He was turned into a liberal
        somewhere along the line. So it's a liberal that committed this act.
        Now, the drive-bys will read on a website that I'm attacking
        liberalism by comparing this guy to them. That's exactly what they do
        every day, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just pointing out a fact. I am
        making no extrapolation; I'm just pointing it out."
        -- Rush Limbaugh on Cho
        \_ What day and time did he say this?  I'm almost 100% sure this was a
           joke, but http://mm.org never distinguishes between serious commentary and
           jokes.
           \_ (responding to myself), http://mm.org falls for Rush's joke hook, line,
              and sinker
              http://mediamatters.org/items/200704230012
              \_ please.
              \_ Perfect Rush response: "I was joking and you guys fell for
                 it, ha ha!  I'm smarter than you!  Oh, and I really meant
                 it, ha ha!  I'm smarter than you!  Oh, and I really wasn't
                 joking, either!"  -tom
              \_ I bet Hitler was joking too!
                 \_ He wouldn't have said so.  Why did you have to say
                    something so ridiculous?
              \_ Guess what, "can't you guys take a joke" is in the same
                 vein as "Some of my best friends are black!"  When you have
                 to go there you already lost and aren't doing yourself any
                 favors by not trying to drop the subject.
                 \_ Except that he made it clear the point he was making with
                    humor at the time.  Since he uses humor all through his
                    show, you nutty libs are left scratching your collective
                    heads, because you apparently don't have a sense of humor.
                    Unless of course you're watching Jon Stewart.
                    \_ yeah, you nigger.   ohh, i was joking too.
                    \_ No, sometimes humor is offensive.  Defending it as
                       just being a joke doesn't make it any less offensive.
                       \_ And an offensive joke that isn't funny is useless.
                          Along with Imus, Limbaugh deserves shit for his
                          "jokes" because he's simply not funny.
                       \_ You mean I can't tell black jokes at work anymore???

4/13    Ha ha ha.  Last year, an Obama event was started by a group called
        "Nappy Roots"
        http://www.intheagora.com/archives/2007/04/nappy_roots.html
        \_ and of course, there's no difference between a black person
           saying "nappy roots" and a white person saying "nappy-headed hos".
             -tom
           \_ You got that right. There isn't.
              \_ Okay let's take the racial element out of it.  Is there
                 a difference between you calling yourself an idiot and me
                 calling you an idiot?  Idiot.
                \_ Old Man Imus knew what he was doing, it's just this time
                   the media manipulators got pissed off and got smacked
                   down hard.  I can't believe he got away with telling
                   60 Minutes he hired a guy just to make nigger jokes.
                   Anyway who cares, Imus will pop up somewhere else.
                 \_ Gotta agree with tom.  Old white dude using
                    "nappy headed hos" is different than black people
                    calling each other nappy headed hos.
                    \_ I think the addition of the "hos" part is what makes
                       it derogatory. -ausman
           \_ Which reminds me of Rush Hour where Jackie Chan saw Chris Rock
              saying "Whatsup n*gger" and then mimic after him, and got very
                       \_ Are "nappy headed" and "hos" terms associated with
                          African-Americans, or is it the team's racial
                          composition versus the commentator's whiteness that
                          raises the racism question?
                          \_ "nappy headed" is a racially charged phrase.
                             When combined with "ho", it adds a racial
                             charge to an misogynistic epithet.  Unrelatedly,
                             are you stupid?
           \_ Which reminds me of Rush Hour where Jackie Chan saw Chris Tucker
              saying "Whassup, my n*gga?" and then mimiced him, and got very
              different reaction from people in the bar.
              different reaction from the bartender.
           \_ I am quite impressed with the quality of the discussion on this
              blog.

4/12    Anyone have a link to video of Olbermann becoming the next McCarthy?
        Or Sharpton doing the same?
        \_ Please give context, troll, thanks.
           \_ Last night on Olbermann, he called for Imus, Limbaugh, Savage,
              and others to be pulled off the air.
              \_ That's unfortunate.  Looks like Imus is gone.  I'd
                 simply not to choose to buy any product ever advertised
                 on Savage's show.  What a cesspit.  I don't listen to
                 Savage though (anymore).  I don't know how anyone can
                 put up with it.  It's a giant daily shower of insults,
                 rage, racism, hate and bile.  I really hope no one
                 I know listens to that and can identify with it.
        \_ Wow, Olbermann is a senator with the power of the legistlative
           branch behind him?  When did that happen?
           \_ You know that McCarthy was in the house, right?
              \- Uh no. Maybe you are confused beacuse of HUAC, or
                 possibly because your brain is small.
              \_ You know you're an idiot, right?
              \_ Is Olbermann a member of Congress?
        \_ How many conservatives have called for liberals to be rounded up
           and put in camps?
        \_ I love seeing people defend Imus.  You look stupid either way.
           Do you think Imus hired a writer/foil/cohort just to make
           nigger jokes?  Look it up.

1/18    http://www.grayandfarrar.com/whatweare.htm
        Sick of white trash blind dates on eHarmony? Want to meet someone
        who's more sophisticated? This is the place to go to.
        \_ So, you've actually tried this service?  how did it go?
        \_ Wow, 7500 quid/yr?  Pretty good money.

1/8     Hallelujah, freepers know how to keep Wisconsin pure and white
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1763895/posts
        \_ White power!

11/7    Britney files for divorce.
        \_ She is so white trash.
           \_ No, white trash is Tiffany.

10/5    Once again Liberals try to stop speech they don't like:
        http://www.nysun.com/article/41020
        \_ Do you understand the difference between a stupid crowd trying to
           shut up someone they don't like and people trying to pass laws to
           limit the freedom of speech?
           \_ The op didn't say it was a government action.  Op said it was
              "Liberals".  Do you understand that Liberals are not the
              government?
              government?  Ok, this part is just too funny, "An hour before
              Messrs. Stewart and Mr. Gilchrist took the stage, rowdy protests
              began outside the auditorium on Broadway, where activists
              chanted, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the Minutemen have got to go!"
              \_ The argument is classically phrased as "liberals _claim_ that
                 they support freedom of speech, but..." and I'm pointing out
                 that there's a difference between stupid crowds and people
                 actually voting away our rights, which is what the
                 conservatives (who are the government, atm) have been doing.
                 \_ [sorry, restored, i was too fast on the Save button and
                     smushed your post].  The first point remains.  Liberals
                    do claim and it isn't true.  We call that "hypocritical".
                    My favorite rant was the folks chanting "no free speech
                    for fascists!" on Sproul's steps.  Talk about "not
                    getting it".  Sheesh.
                    \_ Those were almost certainly communists, who are not
                       liberals.
                       \_ Uh... you're just joking, right?
                          \_ I'd ask if you're really this dumb, but I know
                             the answer, so I'll just tell you to go fuck
                             yourself.
                             \_ Thanks.  You have answer all my questions.
                                Not with the answers you think you have but
                                thanks for making it so clear.  Or maybe you
                                just didn't read the article.
                                \_ They actually were Communists on Sproul.
                                   Are you really this dense that you think
                                   liberal==Communist? -!op
                                   \_ I was there on Sproul that day.  They
                                      were not Communists although they may
                                      have been communists and they were
                                      definitely liberal and Liberal.  Anytime
                                      you'd like to toss out a fact instead of
                                      a personal attack, I'll be here.  Have a
                                      nice day.
                                      \_ You mean the David Irving protest?
                                         I was there that day and the protest
                                         was organized by the Revolutionary
                                         Communist Party, who are Communists.
                                         The Spartacus League, which is also
                                         Communist, uses the slogan as well.
                                         Those are the facts, which do not
                                         fit your neat worldview, so you just
                                         resort to attacking me personally. Sad.
                                         fit your neat worldview.
                                         \_ No I dont mean the David Irving
                                            protest.  I mean the day a bunch
                                            of nutty people wanted everyone
                                            to clap for peace.  Your facts
                                            are unrelated to what I was
                                            talking about.
                    \_ Hah!  That's awesome.  Now if they were trying to make
                       a point about facism and its relation to free speech,
                       I might be able to respect their intentional irony, but
                       I don't actually expect they were that witty.  Sigh.
                       People suck.  They can be as hypocritical as they want
                       in personal discourse, but when they start legislating
                       stupidity, then I'm really pissed off.
                       \_ They weren't that witty or ironic.  The rest of it
                          was something about how we gathered there should
                          clap our hands for peace to create good vibes
                          because: Sproul leads the campus, the campus leads
                          the Bay Area which leads the State which leads the
                          Nation which leads the World.  Thus by creating good
                          peace vibes there on Sproul that day we could spread
                          World Peace around the planet.
                          \_ Actually, Good Vibrations is down on San Pablo.
                             \_ Imagine how peaceful the planet would be if
                                they opened a store in the student union bldg
                                right there on sproul plaza!  I have discovered
                                the formula for World Peace!  You saw it here
                                first!
                                \_ Not until we get rid of religious
                                   moralization.
                                   \_ Greetings Humorless Person!

10/5    Once again Liberals fight against speech they don't like:
        http://www.nysun.com/article/41020

8/23    In which countries is "macaca" a racial slur?
        http://tinyurl.com/efdmj
        \_ He never "made an apology".  Sidarth is still waiting for the call,
           and Allen's statements to the press have been excuses, not apologies.
           BTW, macaque/macaca is one of the less-frequent terms used by
           neo-nazi/white-power fucks.  Allen is a long time Confederate Flag
           defender.  His mother grew up in Tunisia.  When he says "macaca" he
           knows what he's saying.
           \_ Stormfront codewords!
        \_ '"This fellow here, over here with the yellow shirt, Macaca, or
            whatever his name is. ... He's following us around everywhere.
            And it's just great," Allen said to appreciative laughter.'
           'The young man at the center of this pre-JonBenet media phenomenon
            is S.R. Sidarth, an American of Indian descent. Which is to say,
            he is a person of color and the only one present that day in an
            otherwise pale crowd.'
           http://csua.org/u/gqx (Louisville, KY, http://courier-journal.com)
           Now imagine if he was describing "an American of" Chinese descent
           and called him Pingpong.

3/17    Gotta love it:
        "NEW YORK - Protesters joined bagpipers, marching bands and thousands
        of flag-waving spectators at the St. Patrick's Day parade Friday after
        the parade's chairman compared gay Irish-American activists to
        neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan and prostitutes."
        \_ what do gay people have against prostitutes?

12/7    Feel good link of the day
        http://www.newsobserver.com/710/story/362297.html - danh
        \_ further proof that poverty, not race, is the root of many problems.
           \_ Saying "race is not a problem" is a bit simplistic.  Only wackos
              claim there are genetic reasons for things tied to race these
              days, but there is social dysfunction present pervasively in
              some racial segments that could lead one to accurately state
              that some problems are, indeed, due to "race"
              \_ Which would be, in turn, itself simplistic. Any serious
                 analysis of "race" specific issues needs to focus on
                 history, geography, and economics.
                 \_ Are you saying there's no such thing as bad cultures?
                    \_ Bad culture? Sure. Bad "race"? Fuhgeddaboutit.
              \_ That's because only wackos dare to make such politically
                 incorrect claims as genetic reasons these days.
        \_ all of my feel good links are NSFW
           \_ alt.sex.stories* is text-based.

8/2     Is Jessica Lynch hot?  http://csua.org/u/cwe (Yahoo! News Photo)
        \_ White Trash extreme makeovers!
        \_ Something done to her face and hair for sure. Damn Hollywood.

7/12    CPB ombudsmen report back on NPR bias: thumbs-up
        http://csua.org/u/cos (wash post)

6/2     http://tinyurl.com/cdksf
        Average Asian boy IQ=118, average Asian girl IQ=110,
        average Caucasian boy IQ=108, average Caucasian girl IQ=100.
        What about Blond Caucasian girl IQ and non-Blond Caucasian girl?
        You know, like, they totally need to redo this test, like, totally!
        \_ "Did the "liberals" in education [read: jews]..." are you the
           same guy as below?
        \_ Standarad Deviation?  That's pretty important here.
        \_ So men are smarter than women?
        \_ Berkeley ranks top along with MIT! Rejoice!  We're all winners!!!
           FYI some of the Bell Curve reviews at http://Amazon.com are hilarious!
           "Them damn Asians are spoiling my KKK world order!"
           http://csua.org/u/c9b
           \_ If that's the sort of thing you find entertaining, you may find
              this amusing: http://csua.org/u/c9c Amazon reviews of Wolfram's
              book.
           \- helo there is an article about smart ashkanazim in this
              week's e'ist.
        \_ All you people who commented, should look at the URL.  It is so
           overtly racist that I find it hard to credit their "facts":
           I suspect they've been twisted somewhat to suit an agenda.
           \_ Dude it's so overtly racist that "twisted somewhat" is
              giving it way more credit than it deserves.  To the person
              who posted this I sure as hell hope you are a troll, which
              just makes you mostly a pathetic excuse for a person.

1/23    Amusing TNR aticle on far-far-lefties
        http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=frank012105
        qwertyuil/dsfghjk
        \_ Frothing lefties is more like it. Gyah. Why can't we liberals as
           a whole just jettison these tinfoil hatters once and for all? Is
           it because they have all of the phone bank lists? Gyah!
           \_ What makes you think that we embrace them? I guess they do
              do all the hard work like organizing the big anti-war
              protests....
              \_ I read a fascinating article that pointed out that the
                 far-left, frothing radicals are the only ones who have the
                 tenacity to hunt down the permits, wrangle over the port-a-
                 potties, and galvanize people to show up, which is a pity
                 since they're the same people who scare Ma&Pa Voter into
                 voting for the conservatives.
                 \_ ...uh, right.  Yet somehow ma and pa voter don't draw the
                    connection between the klan rallies and anti-abortion
                    terrorism on the right and mainstream conservatism.
                    \_ Uh, right. What party has the only sitting Senator that
                       was a Klan member?
                       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
                       \_ Byrd joined up in a region where joining the Klan
                          was like joining the Lions Club, and he has since
                          apologized for it and denounced the organization.
                          If you're going to blame Byrd for something he
                          recanted, let's arrest Bush for cocaine possession.
                          \_ Yeah, right.  Were any Repubs former Klansmen the
                             left wouldn't shut up about it.  The explanation
                             above would be considered an unacceptable excuse.
                             \_ Read up on Strom Thurmond and the Southern
                                Manifesto, please.  -John
                                Manifesto, please.  That said, it is an
                                unacceptable excuse, but hey, land of second
                                chances and all that, eh?  -John
                                \_ And Strom Thurmond is what? That's right.
                                   He's dead.
                    Now why would that be?  Liberals shouldn't blame themselves
                    for rightwing media.
                    \_ Very true! Nor should they confuse passionate opposition
                       with reasonable opposition.
                    \_ Plenty of people connected the dots between the
                       Republican Party and clinic bombings. It is one of
                       the reasons the Republicans did poorly in the early
                       90s and all those federal laws protecting abortion
                       were passed. The Religious Right realized the folly
                       of a minority trying to use force to convince a
                       majority in America, and went back to saner tactics.

10/31   florida trip updated.
        http://csua.berkeley.edu/~rory
        \_ 'starts with "w" rhymes with "ite trash"'-- RACIST!!!
          By the way, can you be nicer to black voters and somewhat ignore
          white voters? Even though that is horrible in the eyes of the
          open minded liberals, it'll really help out in the grand scheme
          of things. Thanks.      -non-religious non-gun non-SUV liberal
          \_ If the election honestly went to Dubya but you were given a magic
             button that would let you magically change the outcome would you
             press it?
          \_ Um, white trash is white trash is white trash.  He only mentions
             black voters via links to some fairly civilized articles &
             editorials; the whole web page is pretty muted and discrete and
             a bit bland (sorry dude).  You make it sound as if he's just
             about frothing at the mouth... -John
             \_ DUDE! net access here is hard to come by... what do you want?
                voter scandas? I'm looking! So far not too much has happened
                I got to practice my spanish today and persuaded a few.
                apathetic Kerry supporters to get to the poles. How do you
                suggest I spice it up? Tonight we're going out so maybe I'll
                hook up w/ some liberal chicks and post the pics. SEriously,
                what do you want to hear?               - rory
                \_ Sorry, I wasn't criticizing, the "bland" bit is just to
                   be taken in context of my reply to the other guy.  If you
                   want to make it more interesting, I'd include more pics,
                   and some more narrative (and lose the foot blister.)  It's
                   a pretty interesting topic.
             \_ So there's white trash... do you believe there's black trash?
                Hispanic trash?  Jewish trash?  Old trash?  Young-cell-phone
                using-not-counted-in-the-polls-never-voted-before-trash?
                \_ Every "cultural" or "ethnic" or "national" group has its
                   shit.  What exactly is your point?  -John
                   \_ You feel comfortable calling people white trash.  How
                      often have you referred to any other 'cultural, ethnic or
                      nation group' as "$groupname trash"?
                      \_ Uh, loads.  If I think someone exhibits reprehensible
                         qualities which I see as being stereotypical of
                         whatever "$groupname" as you put it they hail from,
                         I'll certainly say it.  -John
                         \_ So if you go through a poor black neighborhood with
                            "stereotype" black behavior you'd call them black
                            trash? The word "trash" is pretty Nazi if you think
                            about it.
                            \_ No, I'd call them "poor black trash" if they
                               exhibit reprehensible qualities which I see as
                               being steretypical of black people, the same
                               with poor white trash or poor $grouname trash,
                               whatever.  You did not seem to note my choice
                               of words, young padawan.  If someone who should
                               know better is being an uncivilized
                               neanderthal, I don't discriminate based on
                               skin color.  So I guess I'm a nazi now.  Where
                               do I vote?  -John
                               \_ HEIL GERMAN JOHN ein reich ein fuhrer ein joh
                                  \_ The previous post has been brought to
                                     you by the North Minehead by-electoral
                                     commission.
        \_ White trash is white trash.  Live with it and get over your
           little wannabe-oppressed fantasies.
           \_ Black trash is black trash too.

8/9     Sometimes you just forget how far out Texas really is:
        http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58223
        \_ If you want to tell yourself that these shitheads only exist in
           Texas and the south, fine, but you're wrong.  They're right here
           on the motd.  What do you think this country would look like if
           the Mormons ever succeeded their stated goal of converting the
           U.S. into a Mormon state?  The fundamentalist enemy is all around
           you.
           \_ w00t! Way to turn an unrelated story into an attack on a
              denomination you know nothing about!
           \_ Surely you'll now be able to document our "stated goal" right?
              -emarkp
                \_ just wondering, as a mormon what do you think of said law?
                   \_ As a /citizen/ I think communities should be able to
                      establish and enforce obscenity laws.  It's unclear from
                      the article whether the case is prosecutable under the
                      local laws or not.  I really don't know what my being
                      Mormon has anything to do with it. -emarkp
                      \_  As a *citizen* I see you and your obscenity laws
                          as a direct threat to my freedom, and to this
                          country.   Thank you for proving my point.
                          If you delete this again, I'll nuke everything
                          below the original anti-mormon rant.  Fuck you.
                          \_ I didn't delete anything in the thread, and I
                             assume you didn't just delete my reply.  Grow up.
                             And sign your name.  Freedoms are all limited, and
                             we decide collectively where those limits are.
                             You aren't free to yell "fire" in a crowded
                             theater either. -emarkp
                \_ Joseph Smith is a false prophet, therefore the whole church
                   is a sham.  Also, not one shred of archaelogical evidence
                   for the Book of Mormon.
                   \_ Learn to format aaron.
                      \_ Wasn't me. --aaron
                   \_ Nice work documenting your claim. -emarkp
              \_ Well, it's just known that you're in cahoots with the Jews,
                 the Xtian religious right wing, the necons, the KKK, the
                 North Dakota militiamen, the North German Neo Nazi movement,
                 the toxic waste dumpers, and the mad scientists to control
                 the orbital mind control lasers, in order to reverse the
                 alignment of the boy sprouts and thus achieve global
                 domination!  Only the far liberal left aka the socialists,
                 once known as the communists can protect our freedom to party!
        \_ And California is perfectly normal and centrist.
           \_ Yes, we do have our own eccentricities, but at least we don't
              waste the police's time by infiltrating people's private
              dildo selling parties.
              \_ Don't like a law?  Change it.  It's called 'community
                 standards'.  When you bring your dildo party to places that
                 don't like them, you expect shit will happen.
                 \_ And we don't like those places, or more specifically, the
                    "prominent citizens" of that place.
                    \_ Whatever.  Have you added anything to this thread with
                       a comment like that?  Does your liking or not liking
                       people from other places have anything to do with dildo
                       parties in Texas getting busted by the local cops?  No.
                       \_ Actually, my comment more clearly states the essence
                          of the first post in this thread:
                          We hate prominent citizens that sic the local cops
                          on people below them breaking a law that shouldn't
                          be a law.
                          \_ People below them?  WTF country are you in?  In
                             *this* country, you're a citizen or you're not.
                             STFU with your class warfare bullshit.  As far
                             as "breaking a law that shouldn't be a law" goes,
                             if you don't like a law, get it changed.  If you
                             can't get it changed because not enough others
                             agree with you, then tough shit.  It's a community
                             standards issue, not a matter of life and death or
                             freedom.  The Constitution does not guarantee the
                             right to have sex toy parties.
                             \_ I don't think I ever mentioned "class warfare",
                                nor do I know what you're talking about
                                exactly.  We all know changing a law takes
                                time and trouble, and it helps to be well
                                connected and have free time to do it.
                                What I say still holds:
                                No one likes it when prominent citizens sic the
                                local cops on people below them breaking a law
                                that shouldn't be a law.
                             \_ Different people have different levels of
                                power, money and authority in this country.
                                It is not "class warfare" to acknowledge
                                this fact.
                 \_ Those are some seriously warped "community standards."
                    I am not going to waste my time trying to change some
                    redneck Texas rural communities laws, just be thankful
                    every day I live in a more sane and tolerant place.
                    \_ They have their laws.  You have yours.  The people who
                       *do* live there have chosen to accept them.  If they
                       don't like them they can try to change them or leave.
                       They do not have the a-ok to break them and whine about
                       it because they are applying your leftist liberal
                       California standards to a very socially conservative
                       Texan town.  That's just stupid.
                       \_ By your standards, those Muslim women who object
                          to being forced to wear a burqa and being kept
                          out of school should just STFU and accept their
                          community standards or leave.
                          \_ That's ridiculous--when it's not a democratic
                             society obviously they can't try to change their
                             local laws. -emarkp
                             \_ Technically, Nigeria is a democracy.  yet
                                they have some of the most egregious
                                rights violations by religious nuts
                                in the world.  Is that the fault of the
                                victims also?
                             \_ Once upon a time germany had a democratic
                                society that decided communists, gays, jews,
                                and gypsies were not upto its community
                                standard, and neither was challenge to the
                                furer.
              \_ MEN WITH GUNS took that woman from her STUFF!!  Where's
                 the libertarian outcry??
           \_ Dude, SF is Middle America.  We're about as liberal as
              Dayton, OH.  http://csua.org/u/8iy
              \_ Link unread.  Either it points to goatsex, tub lady, or you're
                 serious and not worth replying to.
                 \_ It's worse than goatsex...hint: it's "fair and ballanced..."

8/7     http://www.bamn.com/doc/1997/do.asp?970415-flyer.asp
        \_ why are you posting a 7 year old url?  weird.
        No free speech for fascists!  w00t!
        \_  Note the date.  In other news, any retard with an internet
            connection can make a billion dollars by saying the words
            "dotcom" and "e-business" and the world as we know it will
            end in 2000 with that "y2k" bug.

8/7     http://www.bamn.com/doc/1997/do.asp?970415-flyer.asp
        No free speech for fascists!  w00t!
        \_  Note the date.  In other news, any retard with an internet
            connection can make a billion dollars by saying the words
            "dotcom" and "e-business" and the world as we know it will
            end in 2000 with that "y2k" bug.

7/19    Anti-protest protesters?  Is this a form of censorship?
        http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040719/D83TT7UO0.html
        \_ Are you really that stupid?
           \_ What?  --op
              \_ What he's saying is, "How could that possibly be a form
                 of CENSORSHIP?  You can't really be that dumb, you must
                 be joking." He gave you a way out op, and you fell right
                 on your face.
                 \_ A way out of what?  --op
        \_ There is a long tradition of right wingers getting together
           and attacking and otherwise terrorizing anyone who disagrees
           with them. See the history of the American Legion, VFW, hardhats
           beating up hippies, The Klan, etc. This is just a pathetic
           attempt at more of the same, but since it will fail, it doesn't
           qualify as "censorship." A more accurate term would be harassment.
           \_ Name some more random groups.  The foreign legion is a branch
              of the French military.  Do you mean the American Legion?  And
              regarding the whole "right wingers crushing dissent" thing,
              try walking into a given grouping of Cal students and saying
              "I kind of like Bush" just for fun.  -John
              \_ Yeah, American legion, thanks corrected. Do you honestly
                 think you would be beaten for saying that? I really doubt
                 it.
           \_ The Klan is right wing? The one and only member of the Senate
              who was in the Klan is a Dem.
           \_ You know, you're right--I belonged to some pseudo-young
              republican "debate" organization in high school, before I
              I realized that they were a bunch of "me too" morons.  It took
              at least a year of Cal to realize that the people they had this
              terrible enmity towards were equally idiotic.  So in the long
              run, one can hope it balances out... -John
           \_ The Foreign Legion?  The FRENCH Foreign Legion?  What's the VFW
              and Hard Hats?  I need more than that for a google search.  The
              Klan isn't a right wing group.  It's a hate group no different
              from other racist hate groups of any color.
              \_ Try "Know Nothings."
              \_ VFW == Veterans of Foreign Wars. I meant the American Legion.
                 Corrected. If you don't know about the history of Vietnam
                 War protests, do a search.
                 http://chnm.gmu.edu/hardhats/homepage.html

5/21    http://www.billymilano.com/ChapelleShow-Black_White_Supremecist.wmv
        black white supremacist video
        \_ rofl :)
        \_ not funny at all.
           \_ i have to agree... concept wasn't too bad but that was boring.
              forced and overlong, plus... racism isn't funny.
              \_ RACIST!
                 \_ RAPIST!
                    \_ BIKE RIDER!
                       \_ WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
                          \_ MASS GRAVES?
                             \_ OUTRAGED BY OUTRAGE!
                                \_ SUV IS THE STANDARD!

4/14    What media bias?
        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38027
        \_ I can't believe he's not going for the double-brass-ring and
           calling for both Byrd and Dodd to resign.
        \_ If a Republican praised an ex-KKK Republican member of the
           Senate, we would not hear the end of it.  But the liberal
           media will pass on this story.
           \_ Damn that liberal media! -- ulysses
              \_ Yes, actually damn them.  They have already destroyed all
                 credibility the media once had with the American people.
           \_ Why isn't the liberal media all over the story of a FORMER KKK
              MEMBER BEING IN THE US SENATE?  Don't you think that's maybe
              a slightly more egregious offense than generic praise of someone
              who used to be in the KKK?  It's not comparable to the Lott
              comments--Lott's comments were specifically about how racist
              policies might have been better.  -tom
              \_ I am a liberal, and I really don't like Lott.  However, I
                 don't think that was the intent of his comments at all, and
                 I believe he was unfairly attacked for it.  The republicans
                 decided to crucify him to make their party as a whole
                 appear to be something other than it is: a haven for racists
                 in general, and for poor whites in the south who vote against
                 their economic interests in particular.
                 \_ You fergot our guns! Yep yep yep yep yep! "We're gonna get
                    those Duke boys this time!  Aren't we Flash!!??"
                 \_ Yawn, Republicans = evil.  Democrats = good.  See?  That's
                    so much shorter to type and it's all you had to say.
              \_ You mean ol' Strom?  His views evolved over many years and
                 he publicaly renounced racism.  Lott implied recently that
                 he supported segragation.
              \_ According to the article, Byrd the ex-KKK member had to
                 apologize for using the "n-word" in a Tony Snow interview.
                 I'm not saying there are no racist Republicans.  I am saying
                 this public praise for a former KKK member by a Democrat
                 will not be endlessly paraded as an example of Democratic
                 racism, the way it would be if the praise for a former
                 KKK member came from a Republican.
                 \_ you think every time Strom Thurmond was praised that
                    it was "endlessly paraded as an example of Republican
                    racism"?  Be serious.  -tom
                    \_ Do a google on "racist strom"
                       \_ I see nothing other than references to Lott.  I
                          suppose it's possible that no one else praised
                          Strom in the 50+ years he was in the senate.  -tom
                          \_ Lott's mistake was claiming Strom should have
                             become president when he ran, as a
                             segregationalist.  This Dem. says this other
                             senator should have been a leader when he was
                             a segregationalist.  (And a pro-slaver)
                             That's why this is the same mistake as Lott's.

11/2    I just saw Dances with the Wolves for the first time. It made me
        feel very unpatriotic as an American.
        \_ don't be.  Without ethnic cleansing, without White supremacist
           idealogy, there will be no America.  Many view that America today
           is a very different country than 40 years ago (which I personally
           disagree), what disturb me is that great majority of people think
           we were what we are todaycompletely  discredit our racist
           past.
           \_ could you repost this in English please?
              \_ Sounds like a White supremacist to me!
                 \_ I'm not sure what it sounds like but English isn't on
                    the list.  --!the above poster
        \_ End the occupation!  US OUT OF NORTH AMERICA!!!
        \_ Cool!  I love seeing people who suffer White Guilt wallow in their
           own self hatred.  I wasn't here at the time, nor were any of my
           ancestors.  They were getting killed in eastern Europe at the time.
           You going to cry about that?  I'm guessing your white bread
           ancestors were in the vicinity killing my ancestors at the time.
           How about some White Guilt for your crimes against other whites?
           Bah!  Why do I bother?  Just go kill yourself.
           \_ I don't know who is more of an idiot, the OP or you.
           \_ um, did you forget your Prozac today?

10/21   http://www.sfgate.com
        79% of people polled said having a Caucasian Club is okay.
        This surprises me, especially from SF.
        \_ as long as anyone can join, then the 42n ch1x can find their
           white boyfriends!  chinese people can find asian ch1x at any
        \_ as long as anyone can join, then the 42n ch1nx can find their
           white boyfriends!  chinese people can find asian ch1nx at any
           42n club right?
           \_ Do whites on average really have bigger dicks than Asians?  It
              seems so based on all the porn I saw.
              \_ who said it has anything to do with dick size?  people are
                 conditioned to see Prince Charming as white.
                 \_ maybe the asian guys available are just assholes?
        \_ I think that SF recently dropped from being a caucasion
           majority.
        \_ So 79% of people approve of the KKK? Interesting.
           \_ yes, this surprises me.  I thought SF is liberal.
              \_ so, white == kkk?  no cookie.
           \_ It sucks that whites are the only race that can't show pride of
              their race.
                \_ Actually, I don't think anyone should be able to "show
                   pride of their race".  The world doesn't need another
                   source of divisiveness.
                   \_ No the world doesn't need it, but it's about the right to
                      be arrogant.  If such right exists, everyone should have
                      this right.  If it doesn't, no one has it.
                      \_ But some do have the right while some don't in the US
        \_ They've had something like this at San Marino High for a while.

9/20    They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the
        Enslavement of Whites in Early America
        http://csua.org/u/4em
        \_ hi freak, the author is one of those tin foil hat types, and
           not the good kind.  I tend to almost immediately cast into
           the wastebasket any author who uses the phrase
           "The Jewish question".
           http://tinyurl.com/o4j5 - danh
           \_ and even more great stuff: link:tinyurl.com/o4kk - danh
           \_ sloppy dan.  The author didn't use that phrase, the reviewer did.
              and your other link is just a list of other books written by the
              guy.  so what?  Anyway, are you trying to say that there were no
              debtor indentured servants/slaves in america?  go look up how and
              why the state of georgia was formed.  why be so conservative,
              dan?  what if some or even all of what this guy is saying is
              true?  have you done counter-research to show any of it to be
              false or you just "know"?
                \_ google for "michael hoffman" and "jewjitsu" - danh
        \_"The Scientist and the Gas Chambers In the mid 1990s Germar Rudolf
          was a researcher at the Max Planck Institute and a doctoral
          candidate in chemistry at the University of Stuttgart.
          His life changed radically, however, when a defense attorney
          hired him to furnish expert testimony and forensic samples
          from "homicidal gas chambers" at Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration
          camp. When Rudolf reported that according to his rigorous
          chemical analyses, no one had been gassed in those "chambers," ".
          Maybe you can get together with freerepublic guy and
          throw-all-the-palestinians-into-Jordan guy and form a boy
          band.
                \_ Why should I rely on the ramblings of a nutcase?
                   Plus I think forcibly marching over the ocean entire
                   populations of Africans to America probably resulted
                   in a lot more harm as a whole to african americans
                   then indentured irish potato farmers.  Before you blow
                   a gasket I don't support reperations, in my little
                   Berkeley bubble and on campus the subject doesn't come up.
                   I don't think it's a subject that gets a lot of
                   discussion in the bay area but maybe I don't listen
                   to KSFO enough. - danh
                   \_ danh, stop using vi to edit the motd.  you overwrote my
                      post below in posting your material above.
                      \_ sign your fucking posts. --me-user
              \_ lol.  There are so many _reliable_ sources discussing the
                 cruelty and inhumanity of indentured servitude that we do not
                 _need_ to rely on the rantings of one crackpot with an
                 anti-reparations agenda.  Just because a broken (analog)
                 clock is right twice a day, we need not assume that it is
                 correct in any other way.  So, yes, indentured servitude did
                 happen and did affect thousands of whites in Colonial and
                 Victorian America.  Let them file their own claim to
                 reparations from the UK.  This in no way "makes right" the
                 West African slave trade or the subsequent harm it caused to
                 African Americans.
                 \_ This has nothing to do with reparations.  We were talking
                    about whether or not what the guy's book said happened
                    really did or not.  I'm glad to see you agree with the
                    author because it's true and you'd look silly to disagree
                    on this point.  Some tangent about reparations for blacks
                    has nothing to do with anything.  It is perfectly ok to
                    talk about bad thing X happening to people X(1) without
                    diminishing bad thing Y done to people Y(1).  It isn't even
                    necessary to mention Y or Y(1).  Different topic.
                        \_ Just a dumb question, why should I be held
                           accountable financially for what my ancestors may
                           or may not have done 200 years ago?  -John
                           \_ how about you are held accountable for any
                              wealth you inherited that was created by
                              the actions your ancestors may or may not have
                              done 200 years ago.
                                \_ Erm, I'm not.  Nobody is.  -John
                   \_ What hogwash. If you want to assert that there was such
                      a thing as indentured servitude, point us to an
                      encyclopedia.  No one disputes this.  What is being
                      disputed is the authenticity of the source as anything
                      but a white-power propagandist.  Hell, if I write a
                      book in which I assert on the one hand that the freezing
                      point of water is zero degrees celsius and that the Earth
                      is hollow and populated with the armies of the Gnomes of
                      Zurich on the other, you're still free (and damn near
                      obliged) to point out that I'm a kook.
                      \_ That's silly!  Everyone knows the Gnomes of Zurich
                         live with John, under the mountain.

12/19   I know the story about Trent Lott, but what about Tom Daschle?
        someone live outside of US and still tryingto keep up
        \_ He was very quick to downplay Lott's remarks, which IMO was
           the wrong thing to do.  Since Thurmond and Helms retired, Lott
           was the last of the Dixiecrats left.  On top of that, he's the
              \- hello, you may wish to google for "Robert Byrd Klan" --psb
                 \_ touche.
           senate majority leader.  What he said was inexcusable.  The
           bigotry expressed by it (which all the analysts say this is
           not about) is also inexcusable.  TD should have taken him to
           task on this.  When Lott's own party uses stronger words with
                \- this is the product of the idiotic "comity" in the senate
                   and on many executive boards ... because of social and
                   friendly ties, people get away with murder ... why
                   actually enforce your fiduciary duty when it might get
                   you dropped from some currupt bastards xmas card list ...
                   besides, he helped your idiot progeny get into harvard
                   law school. people should have been spitting on people
                   like Jesse Helms and made him a pariah. same for Ted
                   Kennedy. ollie north for senate. --psb
           Lott than Daschle does, he shows himself as offstep. --scotsman
           \_ Note: Lott is the top Republican in Senate while Daschle is
              the top Democrat. Lots of talk of Daschle being ineffective.
           \_ Thanks scotsman. It really helped.  Gosh, I like TD too...
              I would of chose him as our president..
              \_  would _have_ chosen him....

11/23  A Thanksgiving prayer by WSB:
        Thanks for the wild turkey and the passenger pigeons, destined to
        be shit out through wholesome American guts.
        Thanks for a continent to despoil and poison.
        Thanks for Indians to provide a modicum of challenge and danger.
        Thanks for vast herds of bison to kill and skin leaving the
        carcasses to rot.
        Thanks for the American dream, To vulgarize and to falsify until
        the bare lies shine through.
        Thanks for the KKK.
        For nigger-killin' lawmen, feelin' their notches.
        For decent church-goin' women, with their mean, pinched, bitter,
        evil faces.
        Thanks for "Kill a Queer for Christ" stickers.
        Thanks for laboratory AIDS.
        Thanks for Prohibition and the war against drugs.
        Thanks for a country where nobody's allowed to mind the own business.
        Thanks for a nation of finks.
        Yes, thanks for all the memories-- all right let's see your arms!
        You always were a headache and you always were a bore.
        Thanks for the last and greatest betrayal of the last and
        greatest of human dreams.
        \_ Yes there have been and still are a lot of problems in
           this country, but there are also a lot of things to be
           thankful for.  I am thankful to be in America.  If you
           dislike it so much, you are free to leave, or work
           to make it better.  Whining about it on Thanksgiving is
           just stupid, though.  -immigrant
        \_ I'm thinking that maybe we have the immigration concept all wrong in
           this country.
           We should throw open the borders to people like the immigrant above
           and _kick out_ those who have no clue how good it is here.
           I've been to third world countries (most of Western Europe) and I
           swear one of the best days in my life was coming back here and
           setting foot on American soil again.  Love it, leave it, or change
           it, but don't whine about it.
           \_ you are missing the point of the poem.  Burroughs wrote this
             at a time when most americans didn't realize that there were
             problems with our "Perfect Society".  Note how we're headed into
             quite possibly a republican era - where the little guy can be
             stomped on - it's really easy to categorize people into "the
             lazy" and "the hard working" and to believe in self-righteouness.
                \_ Really?  Burroughs wrote that AIDS came out of a lab? Also,
                   you really think the Democrats are out there "fight fight
                   fighting!" for the little guy?  Where can I buy some?
                   I'm not a blind pro-anything psycho.  Please recognise that
                   politics is about power, not people.  Don't ever let some
                   politico from _any_ party fool you into thinking he gives
                   a crap about you.  They only care about the next election
                   and pork.  And none of this has anything to do with the
                   poem.  I repeat: love it, leave it, change it, but don't
                   just whine about it.  Lucky for you this is a country where
                   you can say such a thing and not worry about getting shot,
                   run over by a tank in a public square or hauled off to an
                   icy Siberian slave labor camp.  This isn't a utopia and
                   whining about it won't make it one.  I got the point.

11/21   Put in Clemmins!
        \_ you know, that game was the first time i had ever seen a school's
           marching band look like the ku klux klan.  now we know what
           stanford is all about.
        \_ yeah, he's 2-12 for 2 yards, the solution to our offensive
           woes! -tom

5/21   How acceptable are marriages between:
                \_ acceptable to who?  to the rather liberal CSUA community,
                   anything goes - any race/gender combination you want - to
                   your stereotypical redneck bigot only same race/opposite
                   gender are okay
                   \_ acceptable to WHOM! WHOM! ACCUSATIVE/OBJECT CASE YOU
                      UNCOMPROMISING PIECE OF SHIT MORON INCAPABLE OF
                      ACCEPTING A QUESTION THAT ASKS PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR
                      VIEWS ON AN UNNAMED CULTURAL ZEITGEIST. MAY YOU ROT
                      IN THE LUKEWARM ANTECHAMBERS OF THE ABYSSMAL PITS OF
                      HELL WHILE CREOSOTE IS PERPETUALLY MASSAGED INTO YOUR
                      RIDICULE-WORTHY GENITALIA!!! -(fucker)
                      \_ Why are perfectly good brain cells wasted on the
                         clinically insane like this?
       -Isaraeli + Palistinian?
       -Indian + Pakistani?
        \_ atomic family?
       -Russian + American?
        \_ children who turn red, literally and figuritively, under the sun.
       -good + evil
       -Asian + White?
        \_ More acceptable than Asian + Asian, it seems like these days
        \_ aaron + jr.high chicks
           \_ D00d! White with ANYTHING is good! WHITE POWER MAN!!!!!