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2017/12/16 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
12/16   

2013/10/24-11/21 [Politics/Domestic] UID:54748 Activity:nil
9/19    Real (i.e. inflation adjusted) per capita spending in the proposed
        2010-11 General Fund budget is nearly the same as in the 1994-95
        budget 16 years ago.  Real per capita spending did increase during
        the <DEAD>dot.com<DEAD> boom and again briefly after 2003 but current per capita
        spending is below the recent long-term average.
        http://www.ccsce.com/PDF/Numbers-Jun2010-Budget-Myth3.pdf
2012/11/12-12/18 [Politics/Domestic] UID:54530 Activity:nil
11/12   White man, really hate the GOP.
        http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-future-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people
        \_ As a nordic-descended white man who grew up in a military
           family, I gotta say: he nailed it.
2017/12/16 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
12/16   

2011/11/16-12/6 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:54232 Activity:nil
11/16   Communism now more popular than Congress:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/79v9wx8
2011/11/4-30 [Politics/Domestic] UID:54211 Activity:nil
11/4    I am touring my Nephew around campus on Monday, is there some things
        that he should not miss? He is a Conservative, does anyone know how
        to hook up with the campus Republicans or any group like that? Any
        fraternity members willing to give him a house tour? -ausman
        \_ socially or fiscally conservative? there's a huge difference.
        \_ Wrong campus.
           Anyway, googling yields http://www.berkeleycollegerepublicans.com
           \_ The wrong campus would be someplace like UCSC, but yeah given
              Berkeley's reputation, he was worried that he might be the
              only one. I remember a very vocal and activist Conservative,
              albeit smallish, presence from my time, I can't imagine that
              only one. I remember a very vocal and activ, albeit outnumbered
              only one. I remember a very vocal and active, albeit outnumbered
              Conservative presence from my time, I can't imagine that
              this has changed much. -a
        \_ BCR members used to frequently sit at a table in Sproul.
        \_ Take him to the OWS camp in Downtown Oakland.
        \_ there's plenty of conservative business douchebags at haas.
2011/1/5-2/19 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Politics/Domestic] UID:53975 Activity:nil
1/5     Ultra marathon winner-to-be made a wrong turn in the final 100m during
        a 2-day, 217km race:
        http://www.csua.org/u/s8y (sports.yahoo.com)
2010/7/22-8/9 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53894 Activity:nil
7/22    Cast of "The Expendables" (2010):
        http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411960/cast
        Our state governor is back to movie business?
        \_ "I'll be back."
        \_ He is Leading By Example!  All you furloughed people, get jobs
           as Hollywood Extras!  So easy!
2010/3/8-30 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53746 Activity:nil
3/8     http://holykaw.alltop.com/does-having-one-partner-make-men-smarter
        "Yay, I'm libural, therefore, I must be guy."
2010/2/12-3/9 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:53707 Activity:nil
2/12    Tea Party rallies: "tea bag libs before they tea bag you":
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129
        \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging
2009/12/8-26 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53582 Activity:nil
12/8    Republicans vs dems being funny.
        Ok I mean go figure which network aired this:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJX1Atch1k
        \_ Back then they were billing themselves as the rebel network.
           \_ "maverick, you're dangerous."
        \_ Simpsons, too.
2009/11/15-30 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53529 Activity:nil
11/15   who's the motd guy always bringing up the fact that democrats
        are storing bribery money in the freezer without any hassle?
        here:
        http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/11/ex-congressman_gets_13_years_in_freezer_cash_case.php?ref=fpblg
        \_ FUCK no one cares about politics. Let's talk about Python and Ruby and
           MySQL vs. NoSQL
2009/10/6-21 [Science/Space, Politics/Domestic] UID:53430 Activity:nil
10/5    Make sure to watch The Crumbling of America on History today! America's
        infrastructure is collapsing. Tens of thousands of bridges are
        structurally deficient or functionally obsolete. A third of the
        nation's highways are in poor or mediocre shape. Massively leaking
        water and sewage systems are creating health hazards and
        contaminating rivers and streams.
        Weakened and under-maintained levees and dams tower over communities
        and schools. And the power grid is increasingly maxed out, disrupting
        millions of lives and putting entire cities in the dark
        \_ Oh noes!  Did they also mention the sorry crumbling shape of the
            support columns that hold up the sky?
            \_ don't worry, Republicans and libertarians will help us out!
        \_ More proof that the government can't do anything right.
           \_ more proof that we need to take care of ourselves.
              self reliance via power generator, butane tanks,
              fuel, food, and guns+ammos                -libertarian
              \_ you are such a poser.  Do you own a well?  Solar panels?
                        how about your car?  bio-diesel?
2009/9/29-10/8 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53411 Activity:nil
9/29    http://www.goodguide.com/contributions
        Democrat vs. Republican donations
        \_ I love how Fox contributes almost entirely to Democrats.
           \_ How does that work? I don't get it.
2009/8/6-19 [Politics/Domestic, Reference/Tax] UID:53249 Activity:kinda low
8/6     http://money.howstuffworks.com/5-great-depression-events-videos1.htm
        Excellent video of the Great Depression. Low corporate tax, little
        regulation... any of this sound familiar?
        \_ The Libertarians have surrendered the field.
           \_ just decided it wasn't worth arguing with y'all
              \_ it's ok you'll just be marginalized and then forgotten
                 like the Federalists
        \_ When's the next world war?
           \_ ask putin, or north korea
              \_ Putin is too busy having skin-to-skin contact with his horse.
                 \_ then ask his horse.
              \_ ask the Isralies
              \_ ask the Isralites
2009/8/3-13 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Domestic] UID:53236 Activity:low
8/3     "Tenn. senator has affair with intern, resigns"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/ap_on_re_us/us_tenn_senator_scandal
        That intern looks hot.
        \_ state senator.  yawn:
           \_ Who cares about the senator.  I only look at the intern.
        \_ "McKensie" sounds like a last name rather than a first name.
2009/7/28-8/6 [Politics/Domestic] UID:53208 Activity:nil
7/27    http://csua.org/u/oon
        "Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has sacked the country’s
        intelligence chief in the wake of a controversy that further
        exposed rifts within the political establishment in Tehran. A look
        at recent developments, as top U.S. officials gather for talks in
        Israel."
        \_ When are we gonna invade already?
2009/7/2-15 [Politics/Domestic, Politics] UID:53104 Activity:nil
7/1     Oh the irony. Malcolm Gladwell is mocking someone for making arbitrary
        and capricious "laws" surrounding business behavior:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/07/06/090706crbo_books_gladwell
2009/2/19-25 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:52605 Activity:nil
2/19    GOP congressmen who voted against stimulus now bragging to their
        districts about getting the money
        http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/02/behold_the_hypocrimap.php
        \_ They're asking for people to report examples.  I don't see any so
           far.
2009/2/18-21 [Politics/Domestic] UID:52597 Activity:low
2/18    Yep.
        http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoons/IMAGES/cartoons/toon021809.gif
        \_ I love it when investment bankers, who caused this whole mess,
           try to blame homeowners and the government.
           \_ bankers are just doing what they're good at: making money.
              In another word, they're being good Capitalists.
              \_ You're joking, right?  If they're so "good at making money,"
                 why are all those big banks insolvent?
                 \_ Like libertarians/conservatives, the bankers only
                    did what they thought was good for them-- bigger
                    paychecks. In Ayn Rand-speak, the collective selfish
                    people work together with the side effect of improving
                    those around them (trickle-down). These bankers
                    did exactly what a good Capitalist would do which was
                    to get as much money as they could for themselves. They
                    had no allegiance to the corporation they worked for.
                    Ayn looked at the boom and saw that as a positive effect,
                    and that the bust was just a side effect. Once again,
                    I'm not advocating this is good or bad, but simply they're
                    doing what they're good at doing-- highly motivated
                    by greed for local gains. BTW the second Randian message
                    is "Life is not fair, get used to it." Most bankers
                    accept that. Ayn advocates like Bill Gates used to say
                    the same thing to new graduates.
              \_ you misspelled "stealing"
                 \_ Capitalism: survival of the fittest. I'm not saying Capitalism
                    is good or bad, I'm just saying it's just the way it is in
                    America.
                    \_ "fittest"?  No, not really.  The game is skewed, not fair,
                        not everyone has the same exposure to predation or the
                        same access to "food" in the environment.  Capitalism
                        is more survival of the well positioned.
                 \_ Capitalism: survival of the fittest. I'm not saying
                    Capitalism is good or bad, I'm just saying it's just the
                    way it is in America.
                    \_ "fittest"?  No, not really.  The game is skewed, not
                       fair, not everyone has the same exposure to predation
                       or the same access to "food" in the environment.
                       Capitalism is more survival of the well positioned.
                    \_ like it or not, the US is not a pure Capitalism. If it
                        were, there would be no bailouts.  The fact is: the
                        greed of the banking industry has endangered all of
                        us.  We can't just blow off what they've done, or
                        ignore the industry and trust what it's doing to run
                        itself, which was the temptation in the W era.  That
                        time has passed now.  That policy didn't work.  So,
                        yes, you're going to see a lot of anger out there.
                        And IMO it's well-deserved.  The taxpayers are the
                        elder brother that has to step in and clean up the
                        mess the younger brother has made, even as the
                        younger brother claims no wrongdoing.
                        \- 80 columns, not 85, dumass
                           \_ What's the reason for retaining this rule?
                              Seems outdated.  Maybe 100 columns?
2009/1/23-27 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:52452 Activity:nil
1/22    Who says Republicans don't have a sense of humor?
        From the National Republican Congressional Committee website
        http://www.nrcc.org/issues/default.asp?ID=47

        Economy

        Thanks to Republican economic policies, the U.S. economy is robust
        and job creation is strong.

        Republican tax cuts are creating jobs and continuing to
        strengthen the economy,
        \_ Thanks for the reminder. I need to Google and Yahoo for Republicans
           and then click on their advertisements to support Google and
           Yahoo while draining Republican resources. Search for
           "conservative republican" and click on Recovering Republican
           and Newt Gingrich Newsletter and help the world!
2009/1/19-26 [Politics/Domestic] UID:52416 Activity:low
1/19    Creepiest video ever?  Especially the end.
        http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=50632298
        \_ What is wrong with Patriotism?
           \_ Pledging alligiance to a PERSON is not patriotism.  Pledging to
           \_ Pledging allegiance to a PERSON is not patriotism.  Pledging to
              be a servant, is not patriotism.
              \_ Do you have a problem with the Oath of Enlistment as well?
                 \_ Swearing to support the Constitution is not the same as
                    swearing to support a person. -op
                    \_ "I do solemnly swear ... that I will obey the orders
                        of the President of the United States..."
                       Compare with:
                       "I swear to be a servant to the President and all
                        mankind."
                       Both of these oaths swear fealty to the President
                       (the office, not the person).
        \_ It was sweet.  Right up until the end, which I agree, was pretty
           creepy. -phuqm  (sweet as in nice, not sweet as in "cool" )
2009/1/5-9 [Politics/Domestic, Computer/SW/Security] UID:52317 Activity:nil
1/5     http://indiacgny.org/php/showContent.php?linkid=200&partid=96&sub=sub2  IRONY
2008/12/11-16 [Politics/Domestic] UID:52222 Activity:kinda low
12/10   The Invisible Hand:
    http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/12/09/tomo
        \_ You know, I'm all for socialism given how unfair the market
           has been to those who simply got lucky during the dot-com
           and housing boom (I was born in the wrong era and got left
           out while prosperity passed by me). I'm all for socialism, but
           I really think this auto bailout is stupid. Why should I as
           a tax payer pay for making crappy cars that people obviously
           don't want to buy?
           \_ So, you don't want to be rich, you just want other people to
              be poor?
              \_ Ya, pretty much.               -the next generation
                 PS fuck yall who got lucky rich. Meritocracy #1!!!
                 \_ Are you trolling or what?
                 \_ Umm.. socialism != meritocracy...
2008/12/1-6 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:52138 Activity:nil
12/1    http://tinyurl.com/5ldb9c (bloomberg.com)
        Head NBER fucker from Stanfurd said on 10/8 that economic data are
        "perplexing"
        \_ Well, it is pretty perplexing to have the economy growing while
           the unemployment rate is also increasing. I don't think it has
           ever happened before, but it is actually a pretty good sign for
           the long term prosperity of the country, since it means productivity
           must be jamming.
2008/11/28-12/4 [Politics/Domestic] UID:52124 Activity:nil
11/28   liberals suck:
        http://www.munidiaries.com/2008/11/26/it-flows-on-the-38
        ^liberals^teenagers
2008/11/17 [Politics/Domestic, Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:52028 Activity:nil
11/18   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081117/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_new_word
        meh.  lulz.
2008/11/11 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:51917 Activity:nil
11/11   http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/12/2417037.htm
        lolz
        \_ Are you having a conversation with yourself?
2008/11/6-13 [Politics/Domestic] UID:51859 Activity:nil
11/6    "Palin's return? Russian parliament may allow it" - Yahoo! News:
        http://www.csua.org/u/mv8
        I swear that's the headline I glanced.  Just two characters off.
        \_ He can see her house from Russia!
        \_ Can we rename Wasilla to "Palingrad"
2008/10/27 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:51695 Activity:nil
10/27   Tech layoffs
        http://news.cnet.com/tech-layoffs/?tag=nl.e501
2008/10/25-28 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:51680 Activity:nil
10/25   I embrace socialism and white women.  Seriously.
        \- you may wish to see: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1105762
        \_ same here. I am young, hard working, and smart, yet I'm not
           getting the same piece of piece as the older generation. Why?
           Because capitalism IS NOT WORKING. I have nothing to lose
           and everything to gain by voting for Socialism. Bring it on.
           Young people of American, let's all vote for socialism NOW!!!
2008/10/23 [Reference/Tax, Politics/Domestic] UID:51653 Activity:nil
10/23   say bye bye to 401ks. House Dems want to get tax it
        \_ Why are you repeating yourself?
2008/10/21-26 [Politics/Domestic] UID:51599 Activity:nil
10/21   Republican Party, personified:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4wQfQtpDAc
2008/10/19-21 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51578 Activity:nil
10/19   Another classy Republican in Ohio:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbbcVNOMqSk
2008/10/7-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:51423 Activity:nil
10/7    If the CSUA sponsored a political debate on the election
        and the major political issues, which Soda Personalities
        would you like to see argue the Democratic and Republican
        positions?
        \_ hard to tell, since all the republicans are anonymous cowards.  -tom
        \_ Based on what?  Knowledge of the issues?  Debating skill?
           Entertaining speaker?  Inadvertent entertainment?
2008/9/26-10/1 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:51319 Activity:nil
9/26    http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/News/story?id=180291
        Republicans more satisfied with sex than Democrats.
        \_ Women and fags are more likely to be Democrats.
        \_ I think it is all the bathroom sex.
2008/9/24-29 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:51277 Activity:nil
9/24    At least it isn't a 400 dollar haircut!
        http://www.usmagazine.com/news/john-mccain-uses-american-idol-makeup-artist
        (To be honest, I don't care about the prices, but I am sad that we
        had days or network news coverage about a 400 dollar haircut when
        that's just part of the price of being a national politician.  And
        I do wish the fake outrage from the shitheads on the right got the
        same silent treatment as the fake outrage from the shitheads on the
        left.)
2008/9/22-24 [Politics/Domestic] UID:51258 Activity:kinda low
9/22    Shit, mortgages are getting expensive again
        http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^TNX&t=5d
        We need market tankage to get rates low! </troll>
        \_ The market is finally waking up to the inflation risk.
           \_ the market = Republicans, conservatives, libertarians
              \_ actually, it's mostly foreigners
                 the sheeple just want:
                 the general American population just want:
                 - market go up forever
                 - housing stop going down
                 - nuther stimulus pleese
                 - dank u for cheep gazz
                 \_ Sheeple.  Wow you are so deep.
                    \_ what's your point exactly?  sheeple = the general
                       American population, not just conservatives
                    \_ sheeple = the general American population, not talking
                       about conservatives
                       \_ Anyone older than 19 who uses the word sheeple,
                          even in jest, is an idiot.
                          \_ noted and updated
                          \_ what's significant about 19?
                             \_ It's the age of every girl dans has dated?
2008/9/21-23 [Reference/Tax, Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:51252 Activity:nil
9/21    700 fucking billion?  Really?  With no fucking oversight at all?
        What the fucking hell?  And people think the Democrats are tax and
        spend?
        \- Wall Street Welfare Kings in Pink Cadillacs having out of wedlock
           children with their mistresses in Mayfair!
2008/9/19-23 [Politics/Domestic] UID:51239 Activity:nil
9/19    http://bigpicture.typepad.com
        We now see that the grand experiment of deregulation has ended, and
        ended badly. The deregulation movement is now an historical footnote,
        just another interest group, and once in power they turned into
        socialists. Indeed, judging by the actions of the conservatives in
        power, and not the empty rhetoric that comes out of think tanks, the
        conservative movement has effectively turned the United States into a
        massive Socialist state, an appendage of Communist Russia, China and
        Venezuela.
        To paraphrase Floyd Norris, we have become Marxists, but of the
        Groucho, not Karl, variety . . .
        \_ The government always overcorrects, which is why their best policy
           should be to do nothing.
           \_ No, the best policy is to wait until overcorrection is better
              than doing nothing.
           \_ ooh, yeah, and free markets *never* overcorrect... -tom
        \_ More proof that we need to do away with the government. We
           should have continued to bleed the beast, but thanks to Democrats
           it has become too powerful.
2008/9/18-23 [Politics/Domestic] UID:51234 Activity:nil
9/18    San Francisco style socialist liberals coming to LA parking
        spot near you to try to convince you that driving is bad and
        planting trees is good. Expect a lot of angry LA drivers and
        critical mass liberals shouting at each other:
        http://parkingdayla.com
2008/9/17-19 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51214 Activity:low
9/17    The latest Metrolink crash is a proof that mass transit doesn't
        work well. When you drive your own car, you control your own
        destiny.

917     Mark Mellman on liberalism and moral relativism:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/opinion/17mellman.html
        \_ Yeah I'm sure that's what the union pacific engineer thought too.
        \_ Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling?

917     Mark Mellman on liberalism and moral relativism:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/opinion/17mellman.html
        \_ That's not moral relativism.  That's moral pluralism.
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_pluralism
2008/9/5-12 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:51071 Activity:nil
9/5     The GOP has completed the transition to the party of identity politics
        http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/09/i-wasnt-in-st-p.html
        \_ Thanks for this hilariously bad piece. If the lefties misunderstand
           conservatives this badly, I'm not surprised.
           \_ As the flattery of friends corrupts, so often do the
              taunts of enemies instruct. -Augustine
2008/9/5-12 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic] UID:51069 Activity:nil
9/4     Palin's speech excited the Democrats too:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/68p4qp
2008/8/26-9/3 [Politics/Domestic] UID:50965 Activity:nil
8/26    Republicans are getting violent. How far will they go?
        http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=160453
        \_ They're not Republicans, they're Hillary supporters.
        \_ They could be "Recreate '68" type bozos.
2008/8/13-17 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50859 Activity:nil
8/13    The most interesting thing I found in this article is that in
        Arkansas, when two towns, Helena, and West Helena, merge, the new
        town isn't named Helena, but Helena-West Helena:

        http://tinyurl.com/5ao3m6 (cnn.com)
        \_ "The citizens deserve peace, that some infringement on
           constitutional rights is OK, and we have not violated anything as
           far as the Constitution." Huh?
2008/8/3-8 [Politics/Domestic] UID:50768 Activity:nil
8/3     George hammers the incompetent Nancy
        http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5504708
        \_ This is the way legistlature works. How many times did DeLay
           block consideration of issues the minority party was interested in?
           Your hypocrisy is stunning.
        \_ He hardly hammered her. The Legistlature is in a dispute with
           The White House over some piece of legistlation. Don't you think
           that this happens all the time? GOP hypocrisy is always amusing
           to see, I wonder how many times DeLay blocked the minority party
           from getting a bill to floor.
           \_ Democrat hypocrisy is always amusing to see - Democrats not
              being democratic...
              \_ do you get a woody every time you say "Democrat"?
              \_ Legislatures using procedure to fight it out is a feature,
                 not a bug.
2008/7/25-30 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50686 Activity:nil
7/25    doing business in russia kind of sucks:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/world/europe/24kremlin.html
        \_ Yeah, I sold my BP stock because of this crap.
2008/7/21-23 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50647 Activity:moderate
7/21    Wouldn't we be better off having an "executive council" of a few people
        (e.g. 3) instead of one single elected leader? It would look more
        democratic. They could hold terms of 6 yrs each, staggered with
        an election every 2 yrs. Majority rule. Plus, watching them bicker with
        each other would be fun. Also we'd eliminate the useless VP role.
        It works for the Supreme Court, right? We don't have one single Supreme
        Judge.
        \_ We could have a Politburo, elected by elected  representatives of
           communes.
        \_ We have three branches of government instead of one single
           elected leader.
           \_ We have one single elected executive, I mean. Besides, the other
              branches don't get nearly as much scrutiny as the POTUS. POTUS
              is responsible for appointing SCOTUS and all this stuff
              that people complain about with Bush.
              \_ POTUS focuses a lot of scrutiny by being the sole Executive.
                 POTUS _nominates_ SCOTUS Justices, but Congress approves or
                 denies; similarly, Congress proposes legislation which POTUS
                 approves or denies. The current system of checks and balances
                 works, if the players are willing to fulfill their roles.
                 \_ Ok how about: put leader 1 in charge of Air Force, leader
                    2 in charge of Army, leader 3 gets the Navy.  They
                    can roll dice each week for who gets supreme command.
                    Ok, just kidding... someone else come up with a motd
                    subject damnit.
        \_ The Triumvarate never worked very well for Rome.
           \_ That's not strictly true. It just didn't work out in the long
              run.
              \_ Neither did Rome. So what? This isn't an argument.
                 \_ ... dum conderet urbem
                    inferretque deos Latio; genus unde
                    Albanique patres atque altae moenia Romae.
                       ...
                    en huius, nate, auspiciis illa incluta Roma
                    imperium terris, animos aequabit Olympo,
                    septemque una sibi muro circumdabit arces,
                    felix prole uirum
                       ...
                    tum pater Anchises lacrimis ingressus obortis:
                    'o gnate, ingentem luctum ne quaere tuorum;
                    ostendent terris hunc tantum fata nec ultra
                    esse sinent. nimium uobis Romana propago
                    uisa potens, superi, propria haec si dona fuissent.
                    quantos ille uirum magnam Mauortis ad urbem
                    campus aget gemitus
                       ...
                 \_ [latin deleted]
                    \_ I'm adding a translation I found on the internet.
                    ... until he founded a city and brought his gods to Latium:
                    from that the Latin people came, the lords of Alba Longa,
                    the walls of noble Rome.
                    ...
                    Behold, my son, under his command glorious Rome will match
                    earth's power and heaven's will, and encircle seven hills
                    with a single wall, happy in her race of men.
                    ...
                    O, do not ask about your people's great sorrow, my son.
                    The fates will only show him to the world, not allow him to
                    stay longer.  The Roman people would seem too powerful to
                    you gods, if this gift were lasting.

                    \_ Ille ego, qui quondam gracili modulatus auena
                       carmen, et egressus silvis uicina coegi
                       ut quamuis auido parerent arua colono
                       gratum opus agricolis, at nunc horrentia Martis
                 \_ The Triumvarate "worked" for Rome in a variety of ways
                    until it didn't. The original statement lacks any rigor.
                    \_ Since both times it was tried, it led to a civil war,
                       no further evidence is needed. Unless you think a
                       civil war every few decades is a good way to run
                       your government.
                       \- one of the "Big Questions" in Roman scholarship is
                          "was the Roman Revolution inevitable" [or more of
                          a contingent outcome]. RSYME is "the standard"
                          and one of the important rebuttals/reconsiderations
                          is by EGRUEN (UCB Dept History...one of the finest
                          lecturers at Berkeley). Anyway, the "it led to civil
                          war" is a little glib, like say "the assassination
                          of Archduke Ferdinand led to WW1".
                       \_ Worked for Thomas Jefferson.
        \- the more appropriate roman analogy would be to the practice of
           dual consuls. and there were two Triumvirates ... the
           first was an alliance, not a formal structure of govt. and
           groups of 3 can be quite unstable because it is open 2:1, so
           that may make one "the decider". anyway, it is silly to go on.
           \_ Why is that more unstable? With 1, that one is the decider.
        \_ See Julius Caesar Act IV, Scene 1
        \_ Brain for world emperor:
                _              _
              /~\\            //~\
              |  \\          //  |
              [   ||        ||   ]
             ) Y  ||        ||  Y (
             |  \_|l,------.l|_/  |
             |   >'          `<   |
             \  (/~`--____--'~\)  /     _____________________________________
              `-_>-__________-<_-'     /                                     \
                  /(_#(__)#_)\       /  By right of superior intelligence,    \
                  \___/__\___/  ____/                                         |
                   /__`--'__\   \___    I am best suited to guide the destiny |
                /\(__,>-~~ __)      \                                         |
             /\//\\(  `--~~ )        \  of this planet.                       |
             '\/  <^\      /^>        \                                      /
                  _\ >-__-< /_         `------------------------------------'
                 (___\    /___)
2008/7/18-23 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:50628 Activity:low
7/18    Best caption evar!
        http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92592545
        \_ the "Enlarge" link is pretty good, too.
           \_ Totally appropriate. However I'm a liberal and I'm suppose
              to feel sorry for these guys and I'm suppose to want to
              get our government to mandate exercise for those who are
              obese. On the other hand, I don't feel sorry for them.
              What is wrong with me?                    -liberal
              \_ Being fat cows may largely be genetic, but spending
                 $350/mo they spend on food and electricity?
                 $350/mo on food and electricity?
                 \_ Huh? Where do you get $350?
              \_ No, wanting the government to mandate exercise if fascist, not
                 liberal--unless the two terms are the same.
        \_ Are you one of those Compassionate Conservatives I keep hearing
           about?
        \_ Food in general is obviously not out of reach enough
2008/7/16-23 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50600 Activity:nil
7/16    Wow, quite a few errors in the dissent re: the DC gun law
        http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/guest/2008/dth_0715p.shtml
        \_ Wow, quite a few gun nuts need to get a life.
           \_ <img src="read_ayn_rand.jpg">
2008/7/15-23 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:50574 Activity:nil
7/15    i stuck 'sex dungeon' in my google news alerts
        http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1226788863
2008/6/30-7/14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:50423 Activity:nil
6/30    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7481857.stm
        Please explain to me why Mugabe doesn't get arrested as soon as he
        leaves Zimbabwe?
        \_ Does he leave?  Does he leave to go to countries that have the
           political power and will to arrest him?  Does he leave to got o
           countries with the political power and will to arrest them who
           haven't given their word not to arrest him?
           \_ He just arrived in Egypt for an African Union meeting.
            \_ If you have an African Union meeting and you arrest the leaders
               who go there it isn't going to be very Unionious for long.
        \_ Hey: "he was elected, he took an oath, and he is here with us, so
           he is president". What's your problem, huh?
           \_ >.< Lines like that make the baby jeebus weep blood.
2008/6/20-23 [Politics/Domestic] UID:50317 Activity:nil 75%like:50297
6/19    Dumbest liberal evar!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6CLxpFuSmA
2008/6/15-20 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:50261 Activity:nil
6/14    More Republican loan scandals in the media:
        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aG8uEA1VgMVs
        Why do Republicans thing they're special?  These guys should be
        charged and kicked out of office.
        \_ You're being ironic, right?  ^Republican^All Politicians
           \- "studies show" senators beat the pants off of wall street
              professionals when it comes to managing their own money.
              i.e. lots of access -> insider trading going on and this
              kind of "petit corruption" is de rigeur.
              YMWTGF(ZIOBROWSKI, JFQA). --psb
           \_ Actually, all six that have so far been found to get sweet heart
              loan deals were democrats.  Thankfully they came into office in
              2006 to clean house and put an end to the culture of corruption!
2008/6/9-12 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50204 Activity:kinda low
6/9     i bet this grandma open carries
        http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publish/Dark_Side_4/The_Rambo_Granny_of_Melbourne_Australia.shtml
        \_ "her granddaughter, Debbie, was car-jacked and raped in broad
           daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering
           on skid row."
           It's a shame the granddaughter couldn't have killed them when they
           attacked her.  Wait, I thought handguns were outlawed in Australia?
           How'd this granny have one?  And is that why the thugs attacked with
           a knife?  Shouldn't I be safe in the middle of the day?  Indeed, the
           law seems a bit out of touch with the people: "What she did was
           wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an
           81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp said -- especially when 3
           million people in the city want to nominate her for Mayor."
           -emarkp
        \_ [my comment deleted, since this story is an urban legend] -emarkp
           \_ It's in the article, She didn't turn in the gun when the law
              changed.
           \_ The rest of the story:
           \_ Welcome to Urban Legends:
              http://www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.asp
        \_ As opposed to this one, who has a concealed carry permit. And
           actually exists:
           http://csua.org/u/lqf (SFgate)
2008/5/15 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:49954 Activity:moderate 66%like:49957
5/15    When will this winfall be taxed?
        http://csua.org/u/ljk
        \_ my brain is hurting from trying to parse this article.
           Harvard == GIANT UNREGULATED HEDGE FUND!!!!!!!!!!
           you know there are real live unregulated giant hedge funds
           out there who do actual shady documented crap, they probably
           don't concern themselves with giving out degrees.
        \_ The fact that this is from Glenn Beck explains it all.
           GO IRAQ WAR IT IS THE RIGHT THING!
           \_ But Glenn Beck apologized for misleading America and being
              a cheerleader for an incompetent and corrupt Administration.
              Right?
        \_ "But while their financial statements may look similar, their
           missions aren't. The Gates Foundation is working to cure malaria,
           develop new tuberculosis vaccines, and stop the spread of AIDS.
           Most of our colleges and universities are only working to spread
           the radical political views of some of their professors."  Oh
           that's right Glen Beck.  Harvard (which he had just been writing
           about a sentance earlier.) just exists to spread radical politics!
           THOSE DAMN FIFTH COLUMNISTS AT HARVARD.  You read this shit and
           take it seriously?  Do you have more braincells than God gave a
           toy poodle?  This dude makes the chewbacca defense seem reasonable.
           chihuahua?  This dude makes the chewbacca defense seem reasonable.
        \_ yeah, whoever posted the url... glen beck is not a noted
           economist.  people pay attention to him.  im not sure why.
           he's not as mean spirited as Rush.  that might be it.
        \_ My favorite quote:
           "You'd be taxing success here," Kevin Casey, Harvard's associate
           vice president for government, community and public affairs
           complained in a quote that will soon be framed and hung in my
           office. "Over time, this would put us at a real competitive
           disadvantage, which would drastically hurt the Commonwealth."
2008/4/14-19 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:49749 Activity:nil
4/14    LA is facing a budget crisis. The city's a shithole. Ditto with
        80% of the S Cal cities.
        \_ Unlike beautiful urine-soaked San Francisco.
           \_ Golden shower in the Golden State.
           \_ http://www.danheller.com/sf-top.html
              \_ Doesn't mention how all of these sites smell like urine.
                 \_ You have your nose in the gutter, when instead you
                    should have your eyes upon the stars.
                    \_ surprisingly, people like LA more than SF, according
                       to Mr. Google:
       http://appleorangescale.com/?wd0=san%20francisco&wd1=los%20angeles
2008/4/12-16 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:49738 Activity:nil
4/12    Is it true that the American taxpayer is paying for universal health
        care for Iraqis?
        \_ This guy says so:
           http://www.csua.org/u/la5
2008/4/10-12 [Politics/Domestic] UID:49718 Activity:nil
4/10    Please suck my libertarian balls.
        \_ But your liberarian balls want to be free!
           \_ Niiiice :)
           \_ Actually, they want to be for sale.
              \_ They want to be outsourced to Bangalore.
        \_ Wouldn't you rather have the Invisible Hand fondle your
           libertarian balls?
2008/4/4-9 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign] UID:49668 Activity:nil
4/4     jrleek, please tell us about the job you love, and if you guys
        are hiring. I'm fed up with big companies, big beauracracy, big
        politics and most importantly the lack of career growth in big
        ass places.
        \_ Maybe you are just a crank.
        \_ If you want details, post your name or email me. Anyway
           I work at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, we're not
           hiring, and it doesn't sound like you'd like it anyway.
           It's a big beauracracy. -jrleek
           \_ Why do you enjoy working at a place that you recognize
              is a big beauracracy? Is it the prestige, the bragging
              right that you're working on something secretive, that
              you're doing something good for our country (I LOVE AMERICA)
              or something else? Just curious.
              \_ Your assumption that big beaurocracy = bad in all situations
                 may be fallacious. -not jrleek
              \_ Sorry, I think it's extremely rude to call someone
                 out by name without posting your own. Post your name
                 or email me. -jrleek
                 \_ Bravo!
                 \_ jrleek is awesome, but I would not want his job. -vallard
                    \_ That's ok, I don't want your job either. -jrleek
2008/4/1-6 [Politics/Domestic] UID:49629 Activity:nil
4/1     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxdgNJ_lZM
        The robots have too much power!!!
2008/3/31-4/6 [Politics/Domestic] UID:49624 Activity:nil
3/31    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23883833
        Fed overhaul. So much for FREE MARKET!!! "Republicans have generally
        favored a hands off approach and support the idea that, no matter
        how painful the consequences, people who took on more risk than they
        could handle whether home buyers or investors should have to accept
        the resulting losses." hello? What is going on today?
        \_ This *is* generally true, and you can see it in the respective
           plans being offered by Paulson vs. the House Democrats. They
           both favor regulation, but the Democrats favor 1) more regulation
           and 2) a home owner bailout. Republicans only want to bail out
           the banks.
2008/3/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic] UID:49455 Activity:nil
3/14    Creatures Clone Selves in Face of Danger - Yahoo! News:
        http://www.csua.org/u/l18
        How is this different from asexual reproduction?
2008/3/4-7 [Politics/Domestic, Politics] UID:49332 Activity:low 75%like:49331
3/4     gary gygax, dead
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/3aur7a (laughingsquid.com)
        \_ http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/03/04
        \_ He must have missed his saving throw.
        \_ http://www.corpcity.com/strips/dnd.gif
        \_ http://xkcd.com/393
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