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2013/8/7-9/14 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:54726 Activity:nil |
8/7 Good article about NSA and the lost trust: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/08/restoring_trust.html |
2013/4/18-5/18 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:54660 Activity:nil |
4/18 "MSNBC Host Blames NRA for 'Slow' Boston Investigation: 'In the Business of Helping Bombers Get Away With Their Crimes'" http://www.csua.org/u/zwf \_ The NRA has a lot to answer for. \_ Oh, for fuck's sake. We don't put taggants in gunpowder because it interferes with the proper functioning of a round of ammuntion. With commercial explosives, taggants aren't a problem because the individual charges used are relatively large. When you put them in a cartridge in the relatively tiny charge of smokeless powder, they disrupt orderly combustion. Also, no one has come up with a way of getting them evenly distributed into charges that small. The rounds end up being severely inconsistent. You know who else opposes putting taggants in commercial gunpowder? The Department of Defense, because they don't want any chance of it getting into their ammo, either. Go on, blame the DoD for the slow Boston investigation. Oh wait. It's already over and went pretty damn fast. |
2012/11/18-12/18 [Recreation/Celebrity, Politics/Domestic/911, Computer/SW/Apps/Media] UID:54537 Activity:nil |
11/16 Anonymous responds to be labeled a "terrorist" by Isreali media: http://t.co/0lIgC166 |
2012/5/9-6/4 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:54384 Activity:nil |
5/9 If U.S. doesn't do assissination, then what do you call Operation Neptune Spear aka "Mission Kill Bin Laden"? \_ I think theoretically the difference is that the goal of one is "kill him/her", while the goal of the other is "capture him/her, and don't hestitate to shoot with the possibly of killing if he/she and don't hesitate to shoot with the possibly of killing if he/she resists capturing." \_ OBL did not resist. He didn't even have a weapon on his hand when he was shot in the head. \_ Like I said, it was "theoretically". He might have been two seconds too slow in raising his hands, which could be conveniently considered resisting capturing. -- PP \_ Right. Similarly, those Predator drones are actually designed to capture people alive, and they only fire their missiles as a last resort. \_ Hmm, those missions I cannot explain. Maybe the Pentagon/CIA phrased those as "destroying enemy facility while tolerating collateral damage on enemy lives"? -- PP \_ US hires the best lawyers to take care of semantics \_ "Being a US citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated \_ "Being a US citizen will not spare an American from getting assassinated by military or intelligence operatives overseas if the individual is working with terrorists and planning to attack fellow Americans." assassinated by military or intelligence operatives overseas if the individual is working with terrorists and planning to attack fellow Americans." -Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair It is obvious that our policy is that we assassinate anyone that we feel like. It is obvious that our policy is that we assassinate anyone that we feel like. |
2012/4/30-6/1 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:54375 Activity:nil |
4/30 Commencement speech (your time spent in the frat is worth it!!!): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304811304577366332400453796.html |
2012/3/27-6/1 [Politics/Domestic/911, Reference/Law/Court] UID:54349 Activity:nil |
3/27 Trayvon Martin case: http://www.csua.org/u/vw7 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk Is this truth, or false rumor spread by critics? \_ Does it make any difference? \_ I guess since there probably won't be solid evidence on either side of the story (no witness, no surveillence tape, ...), this will sway the jury if it's true. \_ Lemme put it this way: if they try this in a Simi Valley equivalent, all the jury hears is black dude acting suspicious. Cf. Rodney King. |
2012/3/1-26 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:54322 Activity:nil |
3/1 First Osama Bin Laden, next Andrew Breitbart, I wonder who will be the third one. \_ I suppose you think Whitney just fell asleep in the tub? \_ Wow, you think Obama had Whitney axed too? What did she have on him? \_ Obama? No, no, no: Bobby Brown! You didn't read what Bin Laden and Breibart wrote about him?!? \_ Brown discovered that Whitney sang "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" to Obama? |
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2011/11/10-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:54222 Activity:nil |
11/10 Assange vs Zuckerberg http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=6668 |
2011/11/2-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:54209 Activity:nil |
11/2 "NYC arrest records: Many Occupy Wall Street protesters live in luxury" http://www.csua.org/u/uml (news.yahoo.com) 'Many "Occupy Wall Street" protesters arrested in New York City "occupy" more luxurious homes than their "99 percent" rhetoric might suggest, a Daily Caller investigation has found.' \_ "Many"? How many? This is a classic weasel word. \_ Sigh. RTA if you indeed care. \_ Yeah, I read it. The answer is not there. $1,850/mo is not much of a place in NYC, probably a studio or one bedroom. \_ So I guess by "We are the 99 percent" they really mean "We are the 99 percent of NYC". \_ I am pretty sure even $1850/mo is still in the lower 99% of rents, though it might be in the top 50%. \_ I'd protest if I weren't on the verge of poverty and working to sustain myself! What a bullshit article. \_ I'll bet some of them have phones, televisions and refrigerators in their homes. Fat cats! \_ Well, iPhones. |
2011/5/5-7/30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:54104 Activity:nil |
5/4 So, Bin Laden, star of Fox News, dies at 51. But really the question is, when are we declaring war on pakistan for 1. harboring a known terrorist 2. taking our money ($ billions) for "antiterror" operations? Clearly we got scammed here. |
2011/5/1-7/30 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:54102 Activity:nil |
5/1 Osama bin Ladin is dead. \_ So is the CSUA. \_ Nope, it's actually really active. \_ Are there finally girls in the csua? \_ Is there a projects page? \_ Funneling slaves -> stanford based corps != "active" \_ Computer Science Ugrad Asciento \_ It is just soda that is deprecated. \_ Hardly depricated, I can use it to read class newsgroups. and from what I've been told by alumni this new quieter & less 4chan version of soda is much better than how it was in the past. and from what I've been told by alumni this is a better & less 4chan version of soda than how it was in the past. \_ so does that mean gas price is going down? Are our RIDE BIKE! _/ men coming back home? Is the middle east safer now? F*** YOU GEORGE W BUSH. \_ Get over it. \_ Yawn, typical liberal. \_ he shouldn't have used gmail \_ NSA figured out, without Pakistan's knowledge, that there was no phone or internet service in that compound. \_ Is Berkeley drafting an apology letter to the islamic world now? \_ I never expected we would actually be able to kill him. I thought \_ That's because you're a faithless godless liberal he would either be killed by some traitor on his side, or fade away and die of natural causes decades later. \_ Questions: - Doesn't DNA matching usually take days to complete? \_ Depends on which episode of Bones or CSI you watch. Sometimes it can take hours, sometimes week, usually dependant on the narrative. \_ Got it. -- PP - Why didn't bin Laden escape through some secret underground tunnel during the whole 40 minutes of fighting? \_ You seem to know more than a good christian should about musselman fighting techniques! mussulman fighting techniques! - Why sending only 15 commandos for such a dangerous high-value target on such a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity? Why not send several times more than what is estimated to be adequate? Haven't they learned the lesson from the Battle of Mogadishu about the cost of under-estimating the adversary? \_ There's every indication that this op was done without Pakistan knowing it was going down (smart move, considering ISI ties to Taliban); since the target was a single compound in a non- militarized neighborhood (unlike, say, warlord-dominated Mogadishu), it was probably determined that a smaller force could extract the target and that fewer operatives would mean less political flak. All in all, it was a risky, gutsy move; the SEAL team executed it almost perfectly. \_ Not just commandos, SEALs. \_ It was 71, not 15. And they weren't "commandos" they were US NAVY SEALS! \_ Aren't SEALs one type of commandos? What's the difference? \_ I was impying that SEALs are super-hero type commandos. \_ "SEALS are like commandos, only more so." \_ also the burial at sea is kinda curious. \_ Emmanuel Goldstein is dead, long live Emmanuel Goldstein! \_ 1984 was about 1948. \_ That's so pre-9/11. \_ Orwell was dead on about a lot of things and everyone should read Hommage to Catalonia (and everything else he has written for that matter) but he is a hair off on some things in his fiction. (possibly for dramatic effect). In particular, a singular person as the face of your enemy, doesn't work nearly as well as a .org. It is Al Qaeda that is the real Goldstein. Equally, it is not necessary to eliminate all the words in the dictionary. It is better just to redefine them all to mean either "good" or "bad". Are you a coward? I don't know, are you with us or agin' us? If you are with us then no, otherwise yes. -phuqm Hommage to Catalonia (and everything else he has written for that matter) but he is a hair off on some things in his fiction. (possibly for dramatic effect). In particular, a singular person as the face of your enemy, doesn't work nearly as well as a .org. It is Al Qaeda that is the real Goldstein. Equally, it is not necessary to eliminate all the words in the dictionary. It is better just to redefine them all to mean either "good" or "bad". Are you a coward? I don't know, are you with us or agin' us? If you are with us then no, otherwise yes. -phuqm (formatd) \_ Brazil is alot closer to the truth than 1984 ever was. \_ With that helicopter crash, the op almost ended as another Black Hawk Down. Phew. \_ Or another Iranian hostage rescue mission. \_ Or Twilight Zone: The Movie |
2011/2/24-4/20 [Politics/Domestic/911, Industry/Startup] UID:54050 Activity:nil |
2/23 anyone following the HBGary/Palantir fiasco? \_ ArsTechnica: http://csua.org/u/sms |
2010/12/20-2011/2/19 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53980 Activity:nil |
12/20 "Assange.s lawyer wants investigation of leaks (about Assange)" http://www.csua.org/u/s6i (news.yahoo.com) Speaking of eating one's own medicine ...... \_ http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/27/wikileaks The War on Wikileaks and Why It Matters |
2010/11/10-2011/1/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:53996 Activity:nil |
11/10 "It's Official: The Stimulus Isn't a Waste of Money" http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2022781,00.html |
2010/11/8-2011/1/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:53997 Activity:nil |
11/8 "Million-dollar bill for 10-inch crack under San Mateo Bridge" http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localsfo/20101108/ts_yblog_localsfo/471 Holy cow! |
2010/9/27-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Reference/Military] UID:53967 Activity:low |
9/26 http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_16181812 Men armed with assault weapons barely cause a stir at Mineta San Jose International Airport How the hell does this happen without someone calling the cops? \_ Ha! I'm totally asking the guards at work about this tomorrow. -works at LLNL |
2010/9/13-30 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:53958 Activity:nil |
9/11 Never forget. \_ Osama Bin Laden, your name shall not be forgotten. \_ Forget what? |
2010/7/12-8/11 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:53882 Activity:low |
7/12 "Debt commission leaders paint gloomy picture" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_governors_debt_commission "... everything needs to be considered . including curtailing popular tax breaks, such as the home mortgage deduction, ..." Housing market is going to crash again? \_ Doubt it, not with NSFW marketing tactics like this: http://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080824/00/48b0dd6ea15cc.jpg \_ Probably not, but don't expect it to go up for a long time. Medicare benefits are going to have to be cut, it will be amusing to see which party decides to break the bad news to seniors. \_ Everything is going to have to be cut. Let's start with the DoD. I bet they can get by on half of what they spend now. My sister-in-law is in the Air Force Reserve and works in a civilian (federal) job at an Air Force Base and the waste is appalling. One example is that when she goes on training for the military she gets paid for that AS WELL AS drawing her regular full-time salary. So she volunteers for reserve duty all the time because it doubles her pay. That practice could easily be ended and would save taxpayers a lot of money. \_ From Business Insider: "In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60% MORE than the average worker in the private sector." Also, did you hear about the city manager of Bell who just resigned over his $800K annual salary? He's going to be drawing $650K/year retirement from CalPERS. \_ Sure, the average federal worker also has more education than the average worker and works in a higher skill job. What is the apples to apples comparison on salaries? \_"One thing we do know about public sector employees in general, if you try to guess what they should be paid ... on average they are overpaid," said John Matsusaka, a political economist and USC professor in law, business and politics. \_ If Federal workers have more education and better skills then why are they working for the government? It is because the government pays better and is viewed as more secure. The talented people need to go to work in private industry to add to the tax base and not for the government where they are a drain. My anecodotal dealings with federal and state employees have not been good. Sure, my bank is bad but the teller is making peanuts compared to a government clerk and truthfully doing a better job than the clerks in the windows of most government offices. My sister-in-law (mentioned above) is a good worker with a graduate degree and some of her coworkers don't like her because she makes them look bad. Certain items that were supposed to be done same-day were queued up for four days when she first started She worked off the queue and got one of those "You're working too hard and raising expectations" speeches from her coworker. Does that surprise anyone who has had to deal with the IRS, State Department (passports), Social Security etc.? BTW, she is working for the Feds because it was the best salary she was offered anywhere *BY FAR*, allowed her to be paid double for her military duty (and not get in trouble for going off all of the time which many employers do not like), and had the best benefit package, too. She just got a big fat raise, too, (> 10%) for getting the department all caught up (i.e., doing the job they should have been doing all along). I am happy for her, but as a taxpayer I am appalled. \_ People at the NSA, CIA, FBI and Joint Chiefs are highly educated, skilled, and gov employees. \_ And yet they still lag behind their peers in private industry. I know this because my girlfriend's dad was in the DIA for many years and her mom worked for NIH. Both of them are educated, but like a lot of people in government it was more about a paper education than a real one. The government views a BA from Florida State with a Master's from James Madison's night school in Public Policy about the same as a BS from Stanford and a Master's from MIT in Economics. Example: the current CIO of the FDA has a Master's Degree in Public Administration from LSU and did undergrad at South Carolina. This is pretty typical. Not that there aren't people in government with degrees from Harvard, but the typical upper level government employee went to some directional state school somewhere and then grad school at a place like Santa Clara or Alcorn State or whatever. Joint Chiefs consists of 6 people, so I don't think they skew the mean upward. BTW, if you read the bios of the Joint Chiefs you will find them surprisingly undereducated in a conventional manner. (I am sure they have extensive military training.) My girlfriend's stepdad was career military with a PhD in history from Yale. That was the exception rather than the rule. He served as an advisor to the Joint Chiefs and had connections to a lot of the inner circle in DC. He said it is as much who you know as what you know, which is why it is called politics - and politics drives choices for high level government jobs (many of which are appointments) and also jobs for government contractors to some extent (often worried more about head count than actually fulfilling the terms of the contract). I collaborate with a lot of government employees and the military, too, and let's just say I am not impressed by most of them compared to our private industry and academic partners. \_ you know anecdotes may be interesting but you cant really aggregate them into some theory/general pattern. i'm sure i can match you anecdote for anecdote ... i know princeton english majors who worked at investment banks and didnt know how to do anything except dress well and schmooze. maybe thy could calculate a simple NPV but for anything complicated they would keep calling my friend when he was home with the flu [friend = berkeley EE/Business undergrad]. talking about "the govt" and "the private sector" is ridiculous. walmart, google, the federal reserve, the port of oakland, NIH, dmv, el burrito restaurant, nsa ... covers a lot of different ground. it might be worth asking a question like "does the nsa get second rate number theory/algebra people compared to mit/princeton/berkeley" or us army corps of engineers" vs "bechtel" in civil engineering chops. \_ Better to ask: Why are government agencies from the TSA to the DMV to the IRS to the SEC to UC so incompetent and difficult to do business with? Private business is not always competent and pleasant to deal with, but it's clear who gets more work done -- and cheaper. Government is full of clerks earning $50K/year to shuffle paper who answer to nobody. \_ I never have any problem dealing with government agencies, perhaps you are just a difficult person. \_ Government jobs are more likely to be in an office and require computer skills that the office and require computer skills than the average job. Are you really this clueless? \_ My wife just switched jobs from HUD to Citi and almost doubled her salary. -one anecdote \_ Did she work just as hard then as she does now? \_ Yes, she is like that. She was a rock star at HUD and just average at Citi though. She left because it takes five years to get a promotion at HUD and the pay is less. \_ Cutting the home mortgage deduction might lead to an armed revolution. You have a better chance of me accepting an income tax increase than destroying the value of my home. Like Prop 13, the mortgage deduction is sacred. \_ Frankly, the mortage deducation is stupid, it's basically just an indirect bank subsidy. But, yeah, I admit it would be hard to eliminate now. What about a slow ratcheting down over 40 years? Just rachet down the amount you can deduct a little each year. That way the current owners can pay off their mortgage before it affects them, and the new buyers just have to work it into their math before buying. -R homeowner \_ But opponents of the politicians suggesting it could scream about ending the deduction without mentioning the fine points. It's the impact on politics, not actual homeowners, that makes things like the mortgage deduction and Social Security ("the political third rail") difficult to withdraw. \_ People don't really take up their guns for things like home interest deductions. But they would go to the ballot box and throw all the bums out. |
2010/3/12-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53752 Activity:nil |
3/11 The lateste female Jihad is a blond, green-eyed, white middle-aged married woman! http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100310/ts_csm/286499 I guess racial/gender/whatever profiling doesn't work. \_ Sure it works. It may not be 100% foolproof, but I guarantee there are a lot fewer people like her wishing Death To America than there are swarthy Middle Eastern types. |
2010/2/21-3/9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:53715 Activity:nil |
2/19 "Using ladder, vet rescued people from Texas office" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100219/ap_on_re_us/us_plane_crash_texas A real hero. Not only did he climb up to the windows, he actually went inside the burning building when his ladder wasn't steady enough to save people. |
2010/2/13-3/9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Health/Men] UID:53709 Activity:nil |
2/12 http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/12/human-interface-devi.html \_ ObDesc: It's a mouse that looks like human female genitalia. |
2010/1/27-2/8 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:53667 Activity:nil |
1/28 Democrats and Republicans Can Be Differentiated from Their Faces http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0008733 |
2010/1/11-19 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:53621 Activity:nil |
1/11 A-Bian the former Taiwanese president is so corrupt. Man, those southerners can never be trusted. \_ Come on. Even pro-KMT people would say "Ah-Bian => southerners" is a troll. \_ Ok. So what is AHHHH-Bian3 then? \_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Shui_Bian |
2010/1/4-19 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:53611 Activity:moderate |
1/4 Why the fascination with blowing up airplanes? Airports have tight security. It doesn't seem worth it. It's far easier to derail a train or set off explosives in a crowded place like a theater or sporting event. As many or more people will be killed and it will still make the news. I don't get why all of our security, and apprently much of the terrorist's resources, is focused on airplanes. \_ how about ... a really really tall building??!?!?!? Or Disneyland? Or luxury cruise ships? \_ Like maybe a federal building or the World Trade Center. \_ Someone on NPR claimed that it was due to two things: 1) Al Qaeda hates globalization and airplanes are a very visible symbol of globalization 2) They like to be on the evening news. An airplane blowing up, especially over a crowded city, is a spectacular event. They have also attacked the London subway and blown up trains in India and Spain, so mass transit gets attacked, too. \_ Understood, but the screening process is very tight at airports. I can much more easily plant explosives elsewhere and there's not even any need to be suicidal about it. It will make just as big of a splash as blowing up a plane. This moron on his way to Detroit could have used those explosives in a much more effective manner, IMO. Why bother trying to smuggle them onto a plane? \_ again, news coverage. Thats why its 'terrorism' and not just 'mass murder' \_ 1. I don't think blowing up a plane will get more news coverage than blowing up anything else that kills 250 people. \_ it's easier to kill 250 people on a plane than on a train. \_ I dispute that. \_ OK, could you provide one example of 250 people dying in a train explosion? \- there have been several +250 death train accidents in countries with heavy use of crowded trains [like india]. usually not killed in a flash as in an explosion, but after a crash of some kind. i'm sure a significant contributer to the eventual casualty count in a number of these cases was the accident was in a hard to access area and the quality of medicine was so-so ... i.e. no helicopter evac to truama center but people dying of shock after hours of lying on the ground. i dunno if a train accident since say ww2 has killed as many in one shot as the 747 vs 747 in Tenerife. anyway, location of a disaster has a significant bearing on eventual casualties ... whether it is train, ferry, weather, earthquake etc. e.g. compare the numbers killed in diff countries in level crossing accidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_level_crossing_accidents \_ 9 rail disasters since 1980 to kill 200+ people. One of the worst was in Russia when a natural gas explosion killed 575 in 1989. Look up "Ufa train disaster". It is far easier to derail a train than it is to smuggle explosives through airport security and onto a plane at this point. \_ 200 is not 250, for one thing. And most of the ones with significant loss of life required multiple bombs on different cars or entirely different trains. And surely the Ufa disaster, which was an accident, involved two trains, and had an explosion equivalent to 10 kilotons of TNT, is not a reasonable analogy for typical terrorist activity. I don't believe there's been a single terrorist event which has claimed 250 lives on a train. -tom \_ Not because trains are safer or harder to attack as much as no one has really tried. Hence my question: what's the fascination with planes? Seems like a difficult way to go in these times. BTW, I wouldn't make the argument that blowing up a train is necessarily the best alternative. Someone else brought that up. 2. Terrorism is pretty much mass murder 'for a cause'. \_ maybe one point of suicidal attack is to leave no loose ends. otoh, wrapping one's testicle with explosive is truly weird he would have difficulty to enjoy 72 raisins. |
2009/12/29-2010/1/19 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:53608 Activity:nil |
12/26 http://www.dailynews.com/ci_14086516 I'm all for keeping compliance as it is the law, but why are some people against background check? Why would it be racist, esp. if you do the check to every single employee? |
2009/12/5-26 [Politics/Domestic/911, Recreation/Humor] UID:53568 Activity:nil |
12/4 you know the 1999 ending of ST:DS9 shows the protagonists working as terrorists, and all worried about a police state coming for the federation. Funny timing, no? \_ At that point in time there was a bit of sympathy people were starting to extend to "freedom fighters"; vis a vis all the popular support many pro-palestine movements were going on - especially the ones on campus at that time. \_ you mean Serbs and Albanians. \_ Serbs? You are kidding right, except maybe in Russia. In Russia Freedom Fighters support YOU! |
2009/8/15-9/1 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:53271 Activity:nil |
8/14 Return of the militias: http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?pid=415 \_ Find a source that isn't Potok and get back to me. I *did* notice Obama wasn't wearing a vest at his town hall in Montana. \_ he really should just chill in DC and do these town halls via second life or something similar. \_ Here you go: "Officials see rise in militia groups across U.S. - Yahoo! News" (Associated Press) http://www.csua.org/u/ou4 (news.yahoo.com) --- !OP |
2009/7/30-8/6 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:53223 Activity:nil |
7/30 "911 caller in Gates case hurt by racist label" http://www.csua.org/u/op6 (news.yahoo.com) So, do criminals have the right not to be reported by race, unless they are white? |
2009/7/23-29 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:53186 Activity:nil |
7/23 http://bit.ly/N09ye "Twitter has also become a social activism tool for socialists, human rights groups, communists, vegetarians, anarchists, religious communities, atheists, political enthusiasts, hacktivists and others to communicate with each other and to send messages to broader audiences," the report said. Atheists? Really? Damn, that is one dangerous group there. |
2009/5/23 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign] UID:53040 Activity:nil |
5/23 Wow, this is sad. (Federal Reserve non-oversight) http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html |
2009/5/19-26 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:53013 Activity:nil |
5/18 "Democrat Socialist" party resolution expected to pass. HA HA HA HAW http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html \_ Well, they can't call them "Progressive" because the GOP is too. \_ The GOP is progressive if this was the Middle Ages \_ "Progress" is homosexuality and confiscatory business killing taxation. Gotit. |
2009/4/22-28 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:52888 Activity:nil |
4/21 Hey Dr. jblack, turns out not only were the lying, they tortured people to make their case: http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090422/pl_mcclatchy/3217245 \_ And in other news, stress positions and waterboarding prevented another terrorist attack. So much for the meme that torture doesn't work. \_ No, accoring to Dick Cheney, there is double top secret info that indicates that torture stopped another terrorist attack. He is the same guy who said there was proof that SH had WMD. \_ No, according to NYTimes, via Obama's national intelligence director: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/us/politics/22blair.html \_ "was valuable in some instances" is not the same as your claim that it prevented another terrorist attack. \_ slavery also works. should we reinstate it? Just don't cry when some American being accused being spy in Iran, ok? |
2009/4/9-13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Computer/SW/Security] UID:52824 Activity:moderate |
4/9 Thousands cut off from phone service in South Bay counties: http://www.csua.org/u/ny7 (http://www.sfgate.com No way to call 911 with either landline or cell. Time to steal your neighbor's 60" plasma TV or rape that hot busty chick down the block! Anyway, why do rogue nations bother with cyber attacks on the US? This is a much more efficient way to paralyze the US. They can't even replace one god damn cable seven hours after it was cut. \_ Unless you secretly murder the hot busty chick down the block after you rape her, you'll probably come under police scrutiny when phone lines are eventually restored. |
2009/4/6-13 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:52809 Activity:low |
4/6 The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 gives the president the ability to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any "critical" information network "in the interest of national security." The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president. \_ If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists. \_ How would they implement this? Massive DECEPTICON backhoe digs up 111 8th Ave in Manhattan? |
2009/3/10-17 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:52697 Activity:nil |
3/10 http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/03/smooth.html ho ho ho the TSA so funny |
2009/2/17-22 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:52593 Activity:nil |
2/17 The CA budget compromise only includes $3.1 Billion of actual cuts. The rest are reductions of planned spending. http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?postID=2009021716041678 |
2009/2/4-10 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:52513 Activity:nil |
2/4 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/washington/10nsa.html?ref=technology "Panel to Study Military Eavesdropping" [C'mon, it's not hard, just copy/paste the title] |
2009/1/28-2/6 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:52481 Activity:low |
1/28 One of the criticisms of the Patriot Act was that it was rammed through without any time for legislators to properly review it. Isn't that the same problem with this $800B bill? \_ Is this $800B bill hundreds upon hundreds of pages long? It's not coming off the heels of a crisis in national defense; rather, it's attempting to fix a spiraling economy. Plus it seems that the Republicans are legitimately debating points on it, so I don't know that it's really the case that you can make the parallel. \_ there is a real sense of urgency as if we don't act, the econmy will get a lot worse. And no, there was no real urgency when we passed Patriot Act. \_ Right. Because after 9/11 all the terrorist unfurled their "Mission Accomplished" banners and decided to rest on their laurels. Their job was done... \_ When you can explain to me how the Patriot Act actually prevented new terrorist attacks, I will give you a shiny penny. \_ Show me where I said the Patriot Act prevented new terrorist attacks (or even where I defended the Patriot Act for that matter). STFU and learn some reading comprehension. Dumbass. comprehension. \_ Mighty thin skin you got there, mighty mouse. \_ I am sorry. You have *NO IDEA* what is like when national security is treaten. Last time US national security was REALLY threaten by a foreign power was year of 1812. \_ So you were alive in 1812? \_ are you connor mcleod of the clann mcleod? |
2008/12/9-12 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:52211 Activity:nil |
12/9 Can someone shed some light on the Blagojevich arrest? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7773717.stm \_ Apparently, he was trying to turn his power to appoint Obama's replacement on the Senate into financial gain for himself. Straightforward abuse of public power. If he were demanding concessions for his state, he might have got away with "selling" the senate seat. \_ What makes him such a colossally stupid douche is that he was already under investigation - for some 3 years apparently. It was likely common knowledge that his office and phones were bugged. \_ Restoring honor and dignity to the White House. \_ What the fuck are you spewing about? There's no evidence that Obama did anything improper at all - in fact, the exact opposite would appear to be the case. \_ Yeah, part of the reason dude started trying to sell the senate seat is because Obama refused to offer this dude "favors" in return for his top pick. \_ Well, didn't offer them quickly enough. \_ Uh, what? |
2008/12/5-10 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:52182 Activity:nil |
12/5 asians are bad bad bad http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/04/BA8D14II0B.DTL \_ Don't give your Myspace info to shady Vietnamese dudes \_ Gee is a Cantonese last name. Are you racist or something? \_ all look same http://tinyurl.com/6bd32k \_ You know, if only she had a CCW permit and a gun... -chico dude |
2008/11/21-28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea, Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:52070 Activity:nil |
11/21 "The year 2025: Oil, dollar out; Russia, Islam in" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081121/ap_on_go_ot/intel_trends (National Intelligence Council report) |
2008/11/15-26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51994 Activity:nil |
11/16 America: not racist anymore! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081116/ap_on_re_us/obama_racial \_ is that why people are celebrating, b/c their white guilt is over? |
2008/11/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:51965 Activity:nil |
11/13 lolz. liberals. [SFGate article on Boxer aide being convicted of distributing child porn.] http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/13/BA5J143VAU.DTL \_ GO LOL YOURSELF |
2008/11/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:51962 Activity:nil |
11/13 lolz. liberals. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/13/BA5J143VAU.DTL \_ GO LOL YOURSELF |
2008/10/21-26 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:51613 Activity:nil |
10/22 Yet another Bruce Schneier vs The TSA article: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200811/airport-security This is pretty funny: On another occasion, at LaGuardia, in New York, the transportation-security officer in charge of my secondary screening emptied my carry-on bag of nearly everything it contained, including a yellow, three-foot-by-four-foot Hezbollah flag, purchased at a Hezbollah gift shop in south Lebanon. The flag features, as its charming main image, an upraised fist clutching an AK-47 automatic rifle. Atop the rifle is a line of Arabic writing that reads "Then surely the party of God are they who will be triumphant." The officer took the flag and spread it out on the inspection table. She finished her inspection, gave me back my flag, and told me I could go. I said, "That's a Hezbollah flag." She said, "Uh-huh." \_ what, do you think it's important for TSA to arrest people who are carrying Hezbollah flags? \_ That seems to be the implication of the article. At least question them? \- i think the point was "the TSA employee had no recognition of what hezbollah was." it would be like picking a VP candidate who didnt know what the VPs job was or couldnt name any sup ct cases other than RvW. and it is funny. you would have thought somebody else watching this would have reacted. \_ Or, more likely, they already knew who Bruce Schneier is and knew that he was not likely to be a real security threat. \_ This was a journo for The Atlantic, not Scheier. \_ TSA is a joke and a huge waste of taxpayer money. Fly out of Tel Aviv sometime if you want to see what real airport security looks like. |
2008/10/16-20 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:51544 Activity:nil |
10/16 Here we go...last gasp attempt to use FBI/DOJ to suppress the vote http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/237716.php http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/V/VOTER_FRAUD_FBI?SITE=ORROS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
2008/10/7-9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:51417 Activity:low |
10/7 To the idiots who think the Ayers story is interesting: What Ayers did was a generation ago. He went to jail for a long ass time. He payed his debt and understands that when he was a kid he was wrong. Now he is a respected Chicago professor who worked with a legitimate group whose mission was to get money to try to improve Chicago schools. Maybe you don't think Ayers should have been able to rehabilitate himself, but isn't that the point of justice. People do wrong, we punish them and make them understand why it was wrong. Then if those people come back to society and do the right thing we are supposed to accept them back as valuable members of our community. That's what makes the justice system work. \_ He's never recanted. AFAICT he's never spent a day in jail for the bombings. He has no regrets, thinks he should have done more. "So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? 'I don't want to discount the possibility,' he said." http://tinyurl.com/4tb7wd [nytimes] Note that this nytimes article appeared on 9/11/2001. \_ He did turn himself in. I was wrong, charges were dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct. And you need to read his rebuttal to that article. http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/clarifying-the-facts-a-letter-to-the-new-york-times-9-15-2001 \- look even if guilt by association isnt 1/r^2 but 1/r, CKEATING is so much closer to JMCCAIN, not to mention his crimes so much more contemporary to their involvement and the nature of the relationship directly involves what he was on the hook for, the strength of the guilt by assn charge is a whole lot stronger in this case ... not to mention its relevance to the current financial mess [regulation, moral hazard, regulatory arbitrage, lobbying-for- loopholes, money influence in politics etc]. "thanks hillary". \_ ob why do you love the terrerists? \- CKEATING is a financial terrorist ... that's what he was doing w.r.t. to the FSLIC. might be good to execute a few finance people to "find new ways to motivate them" against MORAL HAZARD. since it is highly likely you were "young" during this episode, spend the <5min to read http://tinyurl.com/yypk4l [wikipedia on CKEATING]. \_ ob sarcasm++ |
2008/9/26-10/1 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:51314 Activity:nil |
9/25 I don't understand this whole thing. Haven't we learned anything from the Roaring 20s, highly unregulated FREE MARKET boom, good times, unsustainable market, politicians doing nothing... all led to the big crash of 1929? There are so many parallels between the unregulated market of 1920s and the unregulated market of home loans. Do we not learn from our own past? \_ I don't learn from my own past so I will repeat the mistake I've made before (here goes): We don't learn from our mistakes, but they are not the mistakes you think. The only economists pre- dicting the great depression were of the Austrian school and they believed that it was(/would be) brought on by the easy credit available due to the FED. Which was Gubment action (The Austrian School was VERY pro "FREE MARKET"). It should be pointed out that this theory can fit fine with other theories including the French/Marxist ideas of income inequality/structural imbalances in methods of accumulation vs. methods of consumption (forgive me if my terminology is off; it has been 15 years since I studied this stuff and I may have the phrases wrong). Furthermore, having set up this fall, the FED then exacerbated it by tightening money supply right at the time when an increase in the money supply was needed to keep marginal banks from failing. (This was a bit of a power struggle between the New York Branch which wanted a looser money supply and the DC bank which won out). Congress then got into the act with Tarriffs and other idiotic protectionism, just to make sure the pooch was screwed proper. Nothing the Government was able to do really helped much untill the War came along. \_ Actually, the New Deal made a huge difference. The economy grew at 9-11% most years from 1932 to 1939. \_ Isn't New Deal a COMMUNIST thing? |
2008/9/25-30 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:51296 Activity:nil |
9/25 Osama Bin Laden: "We don't have to screw with you infidels anymore, your financial market is already in ruins. Alalalalalalaah" |
2008/9/10-17 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51128 Activity:nil |
9/10 I don't really care about what the rest of the world thinks when they don't even believe what happened on 9/11. http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=32140442&channelId=2951 \_ Yeah! We all know it was Iraq! \_ I am pretty sure a majority of Republicans still believe that. \_ Yes but you're an idiot. \_ http://preview.tinyurl.com/yp552s "A Harris poll taken two weeks before the 2004 presidential election found that a majority of Bush's supporters believed that Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks" Who are the idiots? |
2008/9/6-9 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51081 Activity:nil |
9/6 Obstruction of justice in Alaska http://www.newsweek.com/id/157439/output/print \_ This whole family belongs on the Jerry Springer show. |
2008/9/1-3 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51014 Activity:nil |
9/1 Protesting the war...by attacking buses? http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/bus-attack-in-st-paul-anarchists-attack.html \_ And cub scouts! |
2008/8/13-19 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:50862 Activity:nil |
8/13 What do you know, Al Qaeda is freaking nuts http://tinyurl.com/65te2e [telegraph] |
2008/8/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:50802 Activity:nil |
8/6 "Fakeproof" e-passport is cloned in minutes http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4467106.ece http://tinyurl.com/62awe6 |
2008/8/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50797 Activity:nil |
8/5 here's an article on how the FBI's case against the dead bioweapons scientist is a bunch of crap http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/05/anthrax/index.html I did think the weird 'he mailed the stuff from a mailbox near a sorority' stuff was weird sounding. \_ The government pulls this kind of crap all the time, but usually they just lie abaout some evidence they planted on some poor ass drug dealer, so no one cares. \_ We know this much: It was one of 12 scientists in that lab. Why not this one? He seems as wacky as any. On top of it, he killed himself. I refuse to believe that it was just because of the pressure he was under. He did it when the government was finally ready to move on him. Or maybe he was really murdered by the Mossad. Also, the article seems to give Ivins a lot of leeway, insinuating that because he had a legitimate use for a lyophilizer he clearly didn't have a nefarious use for it. Isn't that what a smart guy would do? Claim to need it for his work (which he did) to throw off suspicion? work (which he did) to throw off suspicion? Means, motive, opportunity. More info released today, btw. \_ I remember when suggestions were made back in 2001 that the the quality of the Anthrax powder was so good that only the US government or perhaps the Russian government could be the source, the people saying this were widely dismissed as conspiracy theorists. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, it was a US government scientist all along. \_ Conspiracy theorists are like a broken clock. If you claim everything is a conspiracy eventually you'll be right. |
2008/7/30-8/5 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:50735 Activity:nil |
7/30 To destroy Al Qaeda, we must end the war on terror: Rand Corporation http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/29/to-destroy-al-qaeda.html not really news except to dittoheads but maybe this is progress \_ Wow, you're right! That sure prevented 9/11! \_ Please to be pointing out how the current war on terror has actually done anything to prevent anyone flying passenger planes into buildings. Thicker cockpit doors don't count. \_ I already demonstrated how *no* war on terror didn't destroy Al Qaeda. \_ ...splodey brain. \_ It is really a war for hearts and minds, which we have finally started to figure out in Iraq. Bullets are not really that useful in this war, except maybe as the stick that goes with the carrot. |
2008/7/30-8/5 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50728 Activity:nil |
7/29 Torture is Un-American (or another whacko with BDS) http://preview.tinyurl.com/5l28vn |
2008/7/16-23 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:50597 Activity:nil |
7/16 http://wonkette.com/401074/your-first-exciting-batch-of-paultardpalooza-photos my favorite is the guy with the giant "READ ATLAS SHRUGGED" sign \_ When I first saw that sign I parsed "READ" as the word that sounded the same as "RED". I thought sign dude was just bragging that he managed to finish the whole damn book. \_ This is some funny shit. |
2008/7/2-6 [Politics/Domestic/911, Computer/SW/Security] UID:50453 Activity:kinda low |
7/2 On the torture debate (or maybe just flame fest), the claim that torture doesn't work is true most of the time but untrue some of the time. Most of the reasoning for pro-torture positions doesn't make sense to me, I feel like its not logical to give support to something that doesn't produce results while the same time being oppressive. The one thing I think I can see is that I make a decision that I would rather have a little less security to have more human rights/ civil liberties. When Patrick Henry said "Give me liberty of give me death" he didn't mean unless he might get hurt. I can understand that if you won't tolerate any threat to your personal security (at least any threat outside of our government) it would be in your best interest to want them to torture anyone they thought might be involved in terrorism. But to me that seems like a cowardly approach, a minimal risk to yourself is worth the gain in liberty for all. Its easy to see that deaths from terrorism << torture/government repress- ion. -mrauser \- the ticking time bomb scenario has long been "the standard" classroom hypo after THE TROLLY PROBLEM for the tension between UTILITARIAN theories [cost-benefit analysis] and DEONTOLOGICAL theories [torture is wrong. the exact reason it is wrong depends on the flavor of deontology, but probably "the standard" again is the kantian one but maybe simpler to understand is the RDWORKIN "RIGHTS AS TRUMPS" view ... mostly this is beyond the scope of a motd discussion]. but the "i only care about me" sort of begs the question ... since a core question of moral philosophy is "what do we own other" and you're pretty much saying "nothing" "what do we owe others" and you're pretty much saying "nothing" in that "degenerate" case. EGOISM may be an apt description of a lot of people, but it's not really a philosophy [although i suppose maybe FWNIETZSCHE might have spun it into one, but i am not really an expert on FWN ... and that is also beyond the scope of the motd]. here is a problem with the "results oriented" view: do you think it would be categorically wrong to say torture a family member of the terrorist ... say KSM's wife and kids ... if that would be a highly effective way of producing results. if you want "the standard" critiques of utilitarianism, see BERNARD WILLIAMS [formerly UCB Dept Philosophy, now dead] and AMARTYA SEN ... at the core, utilitariamsism "does take persons/rights seriously. Williams also has a very influential critique of deontology, but that may be a little hard to follow. \_ I've heard of the ticking time bomb, and its pretty easy to feel saying you would torture the guy, because in this magical fantasy he is directly responsible for the bomb being there and you know that there must be a bomb so there is a perverse justice in torturing him to make him tell you. But as a real world example, it holds no water, because how often do you KNOW that there is a threat and the person in front of you has specific knowledge of it. You torture without this information, in the hopes of getting it. Another scenario, say a terrorist kidnaps someone's family and then tells that person where they put a bomb in a building, but they tell that person if they tell the authorities they will kill thier family. So do you torture a complete innocent who has a self interest in not telling you the info? Here is a scenario which is nearly as plausible as the ticking time bomb, but I don't think anyone could feel good about either option. The problem to me is that torture is used in ambigious situations with a presumed guilt or presumed having of the info. I think that because torture can really never be used with certainty, it should never be used at all. Plus, there is a strong argument that it leads to false confessions and false in- formation just as long as it leads to good ones. -mrauser \_ look up "a fortiori" \_ Your writing is only partially intelligible. What was your "i only care about me" and "what do we own other" sentence referring to? |
2008/7/1-14 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50445 Activity:nil |
7/1 This is funny. Tim Mahoney, D. Rep from Florida, sends out mailpiece about honoring the troops, but includes Soviet vet on the cover. http://csua.org/u/luc (blog Link to pdf included) |
2008/6/25-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Health/Skin] UID:50375 Activity:nil |
6/25 Justice Kennedy is a waste of skin. His opinion today that child rape can never be punished by the death penalty is just more proof of that. The particular details of the case are heinous. http://preview.tinyurl.com/5v23a9 \_ Nice troll you got there, come here often? \_ While I understand the desire to take the perp out back and shoot him (believe me, I'd load the gun), preferably after the son of a bitch is repeatedly raped by a rabid hyena, the death penalty is the ultimate punishment available to the state. In designing a system that recognizes that quality, we have to set standards appropriate to the severity of the punishment; life for life is one of the clearest criteria we can set for this. To make exceptions even in heinous, horrible, horrific cases like this is to invite instability. If we apply death penalty in this case, why not in the case of adult rape? Where do we then re-draw the line? Kennedy's opinions in this case reveal a streak of strict constitutionalism such as we would expect to see from so-called strict constitutionalists like Scalia. \_ Originalist \_ "Proportionality" has nothing to do with curel and unusual. You're making a legislative argument, not a judicial one. Besides, I thought you lefties hated "slippery slope" arguments. -op Besides, I thought you lefties hated "slippery slope" arguments. -op \_ At 9:18 a.m. on March 2, 1998, petitioner called 911 to report that his stepdaughter, referred to here as L. H., had been raped. He told the 911 operator that L. H. had been in the garage while he readied his son for school. Upon hearing loud screaming, petitioner said, he ran outside and found L. H. in the side yard. Two neighborhood boys, petitioner told the operator, had dragged L. H. from the garage to the yard, pushed her down, and raped her. Petitioner claimed he saw one of the boys riding away on a blue 10-speed bicycle. When police arrived at petitioner.s home between 9:20 and 9:30 a.m., they found L. H. on her bed, wearing a T-shirt and wrapped in a bloody blanket. She was bleeding profusely from the vaginal area. Petitioner told police he had carried her from the yard to the bathtub and then to the bed. Consistent with this explanation, police found a thin line of blood drops in the garage on the way to the house and then up the stairs. Once in the bedroom, petitioner had used a basin of water and a cloth to wipe blood from the victim. This later prevented medical personnel from collecting a reliable DNA sample. L. H. was transported to the Children.s Hospital. An expert in pediatric forensic medicine testified that L. H..s injuries were the most severe he had seen from a sexual assault in his four years of practice. A laceration to the left wall of the vagina had separated her cervix from the back of her vagina, causing her rectum to protrude into the vaginal structure. Her entire perineum was torn from the posterior fourchette to the anus. The injuries required emergency surgery. \_ See the part where I agree with you that the guy oughta be shot, right after being raped by rabid hyenas. Still not a basis for a legal system. \_ See, the revenge raping isn't. Execution is. \_ How do you codify it? Where do you draw the line? \_ That's what legisaltors do, not judges. See, you draw the line where legislators draw the line. \_ Actually, the constitution did that, where it talks about cruel and unusual punishment. \_ Ah, so you're an idiot with circular reasoning. Go stick your head in a pig. \_ And you obviously have no opinion that you didn't get from Rush. Goodbye, dittohead. \_ Uh, I don't listen to Limbaugh. You want to try again? \_ I should bother... why? |
2008/6/23-27 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:50342 Activity:low |
6/23 CIA asks NYTimes not to release identity of KSM interrogator, NYTimes does anyway. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/washington/web22ksmnote.html \_ and? \_ Do you think it is the responsibility of The Press to co-operate with the Secret Police? \_ Within reasonable limits yes. This was not reasonable and so the NYT didn't feel the need to cooperate. \_ Thanks, Valerie Plame. \_ To be more specific than the above: do you think it was ok to "out" VP? If not, then why was this ok? What was the news value in outing this person? \_ According to the article, "Mr. Martinez had never worked under cover and that others involved in the campaign against Al Qaeda have been named in news stories and books." Outing an under cover CIA agent is different from printing the name of a publicly known CIA agent who tortured Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. \_ Ah, you didn't read the article. This agent never used torture. Thanks for playing. \_ Ah, you got me there: he didn't torture KSM. That said, he's still not under cover. It's not the same. Thanks for playing. (And here's the original article for those playing at home: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6pc49k ) \_ You can't go up 20 lines? Thanks for playing. |
2008/6/21-23 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:50324 Activity:nil |
6/21 The real truth about Libby's perjury: http://preview.tinyurl.com/avn6j "At the end of the day, what appears is that Mr. Libby's story that he was at the tail end of a chain of phone calls, passing on from one reporter what he heard from another, was not true. It was false. He was at the beginning of the chain of phone calls, the first official to disclose this information outside the government to a reporter. And then he lied about it afterwards, under oath and repeatedly." \_ Oh for crying out loud, Armitage was the source of the leak, he's even admitted it. \_ it does seem like a lot of fuss over a grand plan to discredit someone gone horribly wrong. maybe people should refrain from lying to federal prosecutors |
2008/6/11-13 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:50228 Activity:nil |
6/11 Forget something? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7449255.stm |
2008/6/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50181 Activity:high |
6/6 Pure comedy as freepers react to Obama's fist bump with his wife: http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9657.html "History has shown repeatedly, when Whites set up new countries and then give the control to the blacks, or any non-White race, it will soon collapse into another third world catastrophe." "THE NEXT THING WILL BE A BACKWARD BASEBALL HAT WITH USA FACING TO THE REAR. WILL THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER SOON BE A RAP SONG." "You got to be kidding, The fist “bump”, .America “WAK\ E UP”, You are getting your first taste of what it is going to be like electing Barack HUSSEIN Obama for president. Next you are going to see southern fried chicken, black-eyed peas, corn bread, and watermelon as your daily meal. Let’s not forget what Obama’s middle name is, funny thing, he never wants to use his middle name on his campaign." \_ Compare any day with the HufPo nutters. yawn. \_ Or DailyKos, or Democraticunderground, etc, etc. Since there are no freepers on the motd, I wonder who the OP is trying to troll. |
2008/6/6-10 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50168 Activity:nil |
6/6 http://www.google.com/news?q="fist+bump" - danh \_ Gag. And 1000 reporters jizz in their pants. \_ Heil! \_ Behind the times: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JUUIBJme-bg (Bud commercial) \_ http://mediamatters.org/items/200806060007 It wasn't a fist bump it was a "terrorist fist jab"! Go Fox! |
2008/5/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:50096 Activity:nil |
5/30 U.S. Cites Big Gains Against Al-Qaeda http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/29/AR2008052904116_pf.html \_ ^U.S.^CIA \_ It's the headline. Complain to their editors if you don't like it. |
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