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| 2006/8/19-21 [Health/Women] UID:44073 Activity:high |
8/19 what meds would a female would have to take
regularly besides birth control?
\_ testosterone. -east german female swimmer
\_ spermicide
\_ calcium supplements
\_ sperm injection
\_ A healthy female doesn't *have* to take any meds.
\_ Xanax, Ritalin, and Prozac. -typical sorority girl
\_ have to? what does your wife/gf claim to be taking?
\_ dunno. something that made her feel like she was having
an appendicitis for a week.
\_ you could ask her.
\_ oh no, speculating on the motd is much more fun. |
| 2006/8/17-19 [Health/Women] UID:44046 Activity:nil |
8/17 Breast implants linked to suicide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060817/hl_nm/breast_implants_dc
\_ "Women who think they need breast implants tend to be suicidal"
Shocking! |
| 2006/7/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Health/Women] UID:43756 Activity:nil |
7/21 http://www.nightlight.org/snowflakeadoption.htm Christian adoption site supports baby on baby action? (Check out the picture on the front page.) \_ while already-born children go unadopted. nice. \_ Well, it kind of makes sense. It's about as anti-abortion as you can get short of live-birthing someone else's aborted fetus. \_ As I understand it, it's very hard to adopt a baby, demand far outstrips supply. It is easy to adopt older children, but most people don't want to do that. I wouldn't be surprised if this organization supported older child adoption as well, they almost certainly aren't against it, but it seems pretty reasonable to respond to demand with supply to me. \_ Sure, but in this case the supply of widgets that we're talking about are children who aren't being adopted. These are essentially "unwanted" children. So, isn't it better to solve the unwanted children problem with abortion? \_ As I just pointed out, adpoting babies is hard. If people know they don't want a baby when it's a baby (or in utero), finding someone to adopt it is pretty easy. (Assuming the baby is healthy). Since retroactive abortion is currently illegal, abortion does not solve the our current problems with unwanted children, who are older. Of course, part of the reason adoption is hard now is because abortion has cut off much of the supply. \_ It's even harder than that. Many court decisions have given the birth parents the right to "take back" parenting rights even years after the adoption goes through. \_ Yeah, does anyone think that's a good idea? |
| 2006/7/18-20 [Health, Health/Women] UID:43716 Activity:nil |
7/18 If you hike in some park, fell, and broke your leg or something,
and had to be rescued, are 'they' gonna send you a big bill?
What if some criminal chase after you with a gun and shot you?
I assume the police won't send you a bill. What about the fire
department?
\_ Actually that might not be true. For instance a small chunk
of park entry fees may go into a "rescue fund".
\_ Who is 'they'? You would definitely get billed for the ambulance
or helicopter medical evac. If you had health insurance, it would
probably cover some or all of this. -dans
\_ The question of who pays for wilderness rescue remains a matter
of some debate, but a good place to start is 42 U.S.C. 1395dd, aka
EMTALA, the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1395dd.html
--Jon |
| 2006/6/23-28 [Health/Women, Recreation/Media] UID:43486 Activity:nil |
6/23 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200698,00.html Fox News movie critic reviews Superman Returns: Clark Kent is not very expressive (okay, he is supposed to be a shy geek), Lois Lane bland, "sass-less", and inarticulate, Lex Luthor is just Kevin Spacey echoing Gene Hackman - first hour rocked (a re-telling of Superman 1+2), rest dragged on at points. |
| 2006/6/14-19 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:43390 Activity:nil |
6/14 Why do Canadians want girls? I understand why Chinese want boys.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-614babysex,0,6133219.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
\_ `It's new. It's scary. We understand that.' Wow. Condecending
\_ Boy kids are a pain in the ass. Girl teenagers are a pain in
in the ass.
\_ Ok, so no one knows anything about Canadian culture and why they
would prefer girls to such an extent they'd pay big $ for them? -op
\_ This doesn't quite help but, it's an article on sex
selective abortions in Canada, but doesn't mention a girl
preference at all:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=9faa3351-3db1-40d7-9e40-ccd59f4d3838&k=5557&p=1
\_ Study contradicting original article's claim:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12290078&dopt=Citation |
| 2006/6/12-13 [Computer/SW/Security, Health/Women] UID:43355 Activity:nil |
6/12 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060612/od_nm/newzealand_streaker_dc Are all New Zeland women as attractive as this one? Are they more fit than say, American women in general? Damn I gotta move there! \_ Most of the women I've met from New Zeland looks more like this: http://www.manuphotos.com/images/NEw%20Zealand/NZ%20Maori%20Woman%2001.jpg |
| 2006/6/8-13 [Health/Women] UID:43326 Activity:nil |
6/8 Christopher Hitchens article in Vanity Fair on the history
of the blowjob:
http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/articles/060607fege05
\_ This is awesome. Thanks. JAA BABY. -John
\_ Like most of Hitchens, it starts out interesting and then flounders
into Hitchens' own bizarre drunken prejudices (here against
women and homosexuals, with a healthy dose of hatred toward the
French and the Third World). Imagine what he might have been able
to do if he'd just avoided hitting the sauce. |
| 2006/5/30-6/3 [Health/Women] UID:43227 Activity:low |
5/30 Baby born in China with 3 arms
http://www.local6.com/news/9290536/detail.html (pic included)
\_ something something arms race with China.
\_ That's awesome--you could make a living as a pickpocket. -John
\- ^pickpocket^gigolo
\_ That is kind of an interesting ethical question. Assuming the
two left arms are somewhat functional and not hazardous to his
health, chopping one off is a little strange. What if someone
evolved some extra functionality and doctors always chopped
it off? What if having three arms was actually useful? Modern
culture is based on the use of tools. And three arms might
theoretically allow this guy to be a genius musician or artisan.
By chopping it off when he's a baby they are robbing him of a
body part without his consent. Maybe not in this case but it's
interesting in principle.
\_ How is this a hard ethical question? You do what is best for
the kid medically. And that is a science question, not a
philosophical one. A case where you have siamese twins and
you have to make a decision that affects each differently has
more of an ethical flavor.
\_ I said "assuming [they are] not hazardous to his health".
That makes it a philosophical question. That, plus the
fact that many doctors really don't know what the fuck
and basically make varyingly-educated guesses. It sounds
like in this particular case both arms are impaired, but
only one is in the "right place", so they will probably
chop the lower one off and hope the other one develops.
But even if they both worked fine I bet they'd do it for
cosmetic reasons.
\_ Um, "circumcision". OK, a foreskin is not nearly as cool as
a third arm, but still. I'd love to have a third arm. Or a hand
coming out of my forehead, so I can hold a cigarette while
doing other stuff, or keep my sunglasses real cool-like sort
of halfway up. -John
\_ But would they be Peril Sensitive?
\_ Ah, wonderful. A hack troll to keep the memory of his
hack writer hero alive. *sigh*
\_ It's a joke. Get over it.
\_ Oh, I've been over that hack for quite awhile now.
\_ Uh ok. The movie sucked but there's no reason
to be this bitter. The guy is dead and never
hurt anyone while alive.
\_ I'm actually quite entertained at the moment.
\_ I'm happy that you're happy.
\_ Yeah, and circumcision is up for debate also. Just because
it's in some people's culture doesn't mean it's ok. I
do not want people chopping off my body parts. Foreskins
aren't mutant anomalies and neither are they a credible
health problem. It's also meaningless from a religious
point of view since the baby has no clue about the matter.
(There's also the problem of inflicting pain on babies...)
\_ I wasn't referring to circumcision as "something that's
done anyway, so it should be a precedent". I think
whacking bits off anyone without their aware consent,
unless said bits are life-threatening, is dumb. -John |
| 2006/5/30-6/2 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:43220 Activity:nil |
5/29 My fitness trainer/nutritionist says I should try to eat all
organic food from now on. He claims my American wife is huge
because of lack of exercise (which we're addressing right
now), and also because of all the excess growth hormones
we take in from milk, cows, and chicken. He claims that
Europeans are thinner because they exercise more (no dispute
in that) and also they eat more organic food and meat from
happy animals that exercise more and are injected with less
hormones and antibiotics. He claims that unlike US meat,
European meat aren't subject to carbon dioxidation and red
dyes to make them look more appealing. He also claims that
European cows are are injected with less antibiotics and
hormones, so while they look smaller and thus less profitable
to sell and more expensive to buy than the US cows, they're
much healthier to eat. How much of what he says is real
and/or bullshit? Are Americans really eating much more growth
hormones, antibiotics, and other residual chemicals than
the Europeans? Do extra hormones really make you unhealthy?
\_ Um "organic" does not necessarily mean "better". Your guy is
full of shit. The average European plate is smaller, food is more
expensive, and public transportation is generally better (I didn't
see that many fat people in New York.) Pesticides and additives
and what not don't have much to do with your fitness, as poster
below correctly says. Avoid corn starch, white flour, processed
sugar, etc. etc. etc., whole books have been written on how to
eat well. A good rule I saw was that a portion of protein should
be about the size of a deck of cards. -John
\_ He's right from a nutrition point of view. I'm not sure it
matters from a trainer point of view. That is, it's not good
for you to eat hormone-laced beef but by doing so, although you
may be less healthy, you'll probably not weigh any more/less
than a person who eats 100% organic beef (all else equal).
\_ What is true is that Europe has been moving more and more towards
not allowing really bad ways of factory farming animals, while
in the USA the government keeps relaxing the rules unless some
disaster happens (like mad cow). We use 8 times as many anti-
biotics for livestock as people in this country.
\_ Yes, but our cow is bigger and more profitable. Case
in point, look at the government endorsed Monsanto
Corporation and how their products increased farmers'
yields and saved farm families from going bankrupt.
Case in point, most of our milk today is produced using
rBGH, a synthetic hormone that has helped countless American
girls blosom into full bodied women; European women on
the other hand look unhealthily anorexic because they
lack rBGH intake in their dairy products. Hormones +
antibiotics=good profit + beautiful women. I guess you
regulation-loving communists will never understand it.
\- i think that is horseshit. many europeans eat smaller
portion sizes [why a friend of mine immediately began
gaining weight after moving back from london/amsterdam/paris
back to SF. as an illustration compare an "italian pizza"
with a usa pizza]. why are you approaching this in generic
terms? are you interested in discussing nutrition and diet
\- Your brain has been classified as: small. ok thx.
\_ Re: portion size in US vs Europe etc:
http://csua.org/u/g15
or do you have a fitness goal. assuming the latter, dont
worry about "the europeans" and just figure out what you
should do exercise/dietwise to get there. i would start by
tracking your food to see where your calorie/fat/protein
\_ proper dieting with strict calorie intake and moderate
exercise are good. Lack of unnecessary growth hormones,
fat, and anti-biotics would be even better. rBGH,
a growth hormone banned for health reasons in every
industrialized country, is still used heavily in the U.S.
Monsanto's own data revealed that feeding IGF-1 (from
to rBGH) to adult rats for only two weeks significantly
increased body and liver weights, and bone length.
More critically, increased IGF-1 blood levels have been
incriminated as a major cause of cancer. IGF-1 induces
uncontrolled growth of normal human breast cells in tissue
culture, and has been incriminated in their transformation
to cancer cells.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/rBGH/milkismilk20405.cfm
is coming from and in what quantity. for example, at some
point i discovered i was ingesting maybe 1/3 of my calories
from sugary-liquids [fruit juice, orange juice, coke etc].
maybe you should ask your trainer/nutritionist what he/she
thinks about fruitcake. |
| 2006/5/29-30 [Health/Women] UID:43212 Activity:nil |
5/29 Speaking of supers movies, at XM3 they had a preview for Ghost
Rider which looked awesome.
\_ Alan Vega. Suicide. Ghostrider. Ghostrider.
Ghostrider, motorcycle hero.
Ghostrider, motorcycle hero.
Baby, baby, baby, baby, he's blazing away!
Like the star, star, stars in the universe, yeah.
Baby, baby, baby, he's looking so cute, yeah!
Riding around in a blue jumpsuit, yeah.
Baby, baby, baby, baby, he's screaming the truth!
America is killing its youth.
I see them trying, dying, choking, drowning, going down, going down.
I see you dying, dying.
Oh. You don't wanna break apart Ghostrider's heart.
He's riding through your town with his head on fire.
He's riding through your town with his head on fire.
Halo burning. Eyes are crying. Halo buring. Eyes are crying.
Ghostrider, Ghostrider, Ghostrider, Ghostrider keep riding.
Never stop riding.
Hey, hey, don't forget to burn, don't forget to burn.
Burn with fire. With fire, fire, fire, fire!
With fire! Yeah! |
| 2006/5/18-22 [Health/Women] UID:43089 Activity:nil |
5/17 http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/04/26/hip.and.pregnant.ap It's hip to be pregnant! Yeah, come on people, start to make babies like rabbits! \_ The babies themselves aren't hip. You should get pregnant a lot but have late abortions! \_ Get 'em while they last! |
| 2006/5/11-12 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:43024 Activity:nil |
5/11 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060511/od_nm/crime_fetish_dc Foot fetish man in New York |
| 2006/4/26-29 [Health/Women] UID:42835 Activity:kinda low |
4/26 Hey motd boob guy, good news for you:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060425/od_nm/china_bras_dc
\_ Superior Chinese boob breeding! Not like you western type.
\_ If you'd read the article, you'd know they blamed it on Superiour
Chinese boob FEEDING, just like us western type.
\_ RTFA, its not superior breeding, its all about FEEDING.
\_ The results, while interesting, do not mean anything. You won't all
of a sudden see Asian women's bust size on par with other ethnic groups.
Bust size is primarily genetic, just like height, hips, neck length, etc.
Nutrition plays a role in extreme cases (ie. starvation). Compare
Asian-Americans to other -American ethnic groups, which arguably have had
similar nutritional diets and it's easy to see that body types are just
different by nature. Look at Jewish women, regardless of diet, they are
just naturally more busty than other groups.
of a sudden see Asian women's bust size on par with other ethnic
groups. Bust size is primarily genetic, just like height, hips,
neck length, etc. Nutrition plays a role in extreme cases (ie.
starvation). Compare Asian-Americans to other -American ethnic
groups, which arguably have had similar nutritional diets and it's
easy to see that body types are just different by nature. Look
at Jewish women, regardless of diet, they are just naturally more
busty than other groups.
\_ (reformatted by motd format nazi)
\_ I thought I read somewhere that average heights of Japanese
people increased pretty drastically since WWII due to changes
in nutrition. Assuming this isn't b.s., wouldn't the same
sort of phaenomenon affect bust size? That, and maybe an
increasing popularity of boob jobs. -John
\_ The increase in bust size in young girls in America is
directly related to the increase in obesity. Fat girls
have bigger chichis than skinny girls. -tom
\_ Yeah, but my question is, wouldn't not-fat-but-better-
fed girls have better chichis than skinny girls? -John
\_ Chichi size is a function of body fat, so, yes.
(Assuming you think larger = better). -tom |
| 2006/4/26-27 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Health/Women] UID:42829 Activity:nil |
4/25 http://nerdnirvana.org/g4m3s/borderpatrol.htm Border Patrol Flash Game. Kill immigrants, drug smugglers, and pregnant Mexican women. \_ It must be so nice to live in such an intellectually truncated world. \_ I'm glad you can sit there in your nice Aeron chair, drinking lattes, without a care for your security, and believing that law enforcement of all kinds are just modern day Nazis. \_ I'm glad you can sit around in your Aeron chair, and live in fear that the terrorists really want your php coding ass while you don't have the balls for supporting nuking them first. \_ Your counter-flame has been classified as: weak. Keep trying, grasshopper. \_ I've always said nuke first and ask questions later. I was saddened the day Bush, Sr. stopped W88 production. |
| 2006/4/25-5/2 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:42827 Activity:nil |
4/25 Dear typical soda male. Do you date Asian women because you
find them attractive, or because you find Caucasian women
too bitchy, or a combination of both?
\_ Your question implies the typical soda male has a lot of
freedom of choice in the woman market.
\_ I didn't at berkeley, then i moved east, got an import
and moved back. Highly recommended. Cali bitches are
spoiled and don't know wtf they want (so how can they
ever be happy?) - and yes that is by their own admission.
and yes, i asked more than 1. Funny thing but when you
have a gf who is hot, suddenly you can get into honest
discussions with other women about personality defects.
\_ I would post "you're a moron," but it would be
redundant. -tom
\_ I'd post "you're a moron," but it would be redundant. -tom
\_ And so intead you post something doubly redundant?
\_ And so instead you post something doubly redundant?
-jrleek
\_ ObRedundancy Removed
\_ is typical soda male asian or not asian? does that include
azn? anyway, have never dated asian.
\- Not to get too highbrow on you, but I thought this was a
pretty funny line from FNIETZSCHE:
Different sighs. A few men have sighed because their
women were abducted; most, because no one wanted to
abduct them. [Human, All-Too-Human, #388]
abduct them. [Human, All Too Human, #388] |
| 2006/4/4 [Health/Eyes, Health/Women] UID:42649 Activity:moderate |
4/4 hey sky I thought you lived in the bay area
http://www.guardian.co.uk/drugs/Story/0,,1746333,00.html?gusrc=rss
The strange case of the man who took 40,000 ecstasy pills in
nine years
\_ That's Sparky. "Uh..uh..uh...fuggit." -John
\_ Are you sure this is sky? Sounds like dans to me.
\_ Agreed. The exclamation marks, capitalization, and
the fact that he responds to trolls 24x7 are all leading
indicators that dans is on meth. sky on the other hand
is on weeds.
\_ At least he freebases with his circle of friends.
\_ Will dans stop the madness before he becomes the next
muchandr?!
\_ Troll harder. -dans
\_ Troll harder. By the way, I seem to be missing the volume of
the New England Journal of Medicine that published the
double-blind study correlating motd posting habits to drug
use. Why don't you post a link to the article so the rest of
us can read it? -dans
\_ So that's like what, 4 kilos of MDMA? |
| 2006/4/3-4 [Health/Women, Health/Disease/General] UID:42638 Activity:nil |
4/3 Wow, new bladders grown from the cells of patients:
http://tinyurl.com/rmldp
\_ Not quite as cool as it at first sounds: the bladder isn't really an
organ, just a pouch made of a cells of a certain type. They get the
shape to make it a pouch by growing the (largely undifferentiated)
cells on a mold. Still cool though.
\_ Something similar was done to grow someone a new jaw. It's
definitely movement in the right direction.
definitely movement in the right direction. It's not super
simple though, the article mentions extracting "muscle and
bladder" cells, so they might also be growing a valve (I
forget what the name of that muscle is) too.
\_ urethral sphincter? detrusor?
\_ "Although you normally make the choice when to
urinate, once you decide to do so the nervous
system takes over and the process becomes
automatic. The detrusor contracts and the
sphincters relax to allow urine to flow. When
the bladder is empty, the sphincters contract
and the detrusor relaxes." |
| 2006/3/30-31 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:42536 Activity:nil |
3/29 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189547,00.html (second story) Spend your life inside Walmart! |
| 11/22 |
| 2006/3/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others, Health/Women] UID:42522 Activity:nil |
3/29 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4855682.stm Indian doctor aborts female fetuses in a land that prefers boys over girls, is jailed. \_ this practice makes Indian girls all the more exotic and precious. I feel bad for Indian men who can't find a mate. Ya reap what ya sow... then again, Muslims are worse. \_ Don't forget to mention how a lot of your friends are muslim. |
| 2006/3/16-18 [Health/Women, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Industry/Jobs] UID:42271 Activity:nil |
3/16 Is this Vivagel stuff available for purchase in Australia?
http://tinyurl.com/n77h2 |
| 2006/3/15-16 [Health/Women, Finance/Shopping] UID:42247 Activity:moderate |
3/15 Suggestions for cheap storage space rental in the
east bay? My requirements are... it exist.
It can be on the 2nd floor, 3rd floor, i don't care.
I don't need ground floor. I need to disappear for
about a year.
\_There is a super secure place on 3rd St. in Oakland near Jack London
Square called Safe Keep or something. Not too cheap but much better
than anything else I've seen. -scottyg
\_ I'll tell you where NOT to go. That place on Shattuck just south of
Dwight. Bad bad bad. I'm amazed my stuff didn't get stolen, the
place is falling apart and has shitty security, the people who
work there are thugs, and they're a ripoff. I shopped around a
little before I found that place, and I tend to think that you want
to be nowhere near the University if you don't want to get ripped
off. If you're leaving the area anyway, why not put your stuff in
a more rural/suburban location on the other side of the hills?
\_ find a deserted field, dig a hole, and bury it.
\_ Disappear? Storage space? Damn it, you're giving me Primer
flashbacks.
\_ That's next week. Or was it last week?
\_ How big and how cheap? Storing stuff for a year can be pretty
pricy. Like, up to $1000.
\_ Disappear? Buy a bus ticket. Don't contact anyone you know or
use the asme name. Use cash for everything. If you wrote a serious
post you might have got a serious reply.
\_ After I disappear I'm still going to troll tom anonymously.
\_ Nice to know I have anonymous supporters. -dans
\_ I'm asking for advice about finding inexpensive storage,
not tips on how to disappear. Goddamn ADD nerds.
\_ You asked stupidly, you got stupid answers. If you hadn't
posted nonsense half your replies wouldn't have been garbage.
Find a mirror, the rest of us are a-ok.
\_ No he asked one specific question. You chose to answer
a totally different one. If I asked "hey, my wife
is pregnant where is a good place to get cheap
baby supplies?" and you responded by telling me to
make sure she takes her prenatal vitamins and sees a
doctor it wouldn't be answering the question now would it?
\_ I see it is anal retentive moron day on the motd. If
he said, "Hey, my wife is pregnant where is a good place
to get cheap baby supplies? I need to disappear for a
year", it wouldn't be off topic to tell him how to hide.
But you knew that. He was dumb, several people gave
dumb replies. Tough. Being as retentive as you are
why didn't you correct his grammar errors while you
were here? And mine too? And spell check everything
and erase anything over 80 columns? Why stop where
you did? There is so much more to retain! go for it!
\_ Err, why is it anal retentive to expect that the
question asked is the one that will be answered?
If you feel like ranting senselessly on motd -- hey,
go for it: motd without senseless rants would be
boring...but it's kind of pathetic to play the victim
when you get dinged for being uselessly OT.
\_ perhaps disappearing for a year might not have to do
with hiding. perhaps it means leaving the area
without taking any of his material possessions.
\_ DING DING DING DING DING!
\_ It's the ops politburo-given right to post poorly
worded questions. It's ours to respond with snarky
mis-answers. -dans
\_ Look out for things like mold. I've known people who stuck stuff
in storage for a year or so, forgot all about them till then and
came back to find everything rotted.
\_ Most of the lots of random bins at public auctions
are from crap people have abandoned or 'forgot to pay their rent
for' at storage facilities. |
| 2006/3/10-11 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:42173 Activity:nil |
3/9 Vicente Fox made a joking reference to women as "washing machines
with two legs"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060309/od_nm/mexico_women_dc |
| 2006/3/2-5 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Health/Women] UID:42075 Activity:nil |
3/2 sham acupuncture is as effective as traditional chinese acupuncture
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060302/hl_nm/acupuncture_dc
hahahaha that is hilarious.
\- Sham acupuncture: Ancient Chinese Secret. |
| 2006/2/15-16 [Health/Women] UID:41880 Activity:kinda low |
2/15 "Mom, Daughter Have Babies 90 Minutes Apart"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060216/ap_on_fe_st/mother_daughter_births
I wonder if they got pregnant at the same time ... in the same bed ...
from the same guy. Hot!
\_ I'd die for it if they are Gastineau Girls hot.
\_ Okay, never heard of them, so I googled. The daughter's not bad,
but I think the mother looks pretty ragged.
\_ Lisa's (the mom's) body looks hot on TV. Definitely MILF.
BTW Lisa and Britney share bras:
BTW Lisa and Britney wear the same size bra:
http://www.eonline.com/On/GastineauGirls/GirlTalk |
| 2006/2/7 [Health/Women] UID:41734 Activity:nil |
2/6 http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/02/06/gyn.sentenced.ap Reminds me of the hand that rocks the cradle, heh \_ what a bozo \_ rape is so funny! |
| 2006/1/25-27 [Health/Women] UID:41531 Activity:low |
1/25 I think Teresa Teng (Deng4 Li4 Joon1) is one of the greatest
singers in E Asia. However, most of the Asian women I talk to
think she's just alright. What's up with that? Does she have a
negative appeal for women?
\_ No offense but with all this ethnic talk let me remind you that
CSUA != CSA & CSU
\_ wrong perception. she is popular for both male and female.
\_ Hmm, is she dead?
\_ Died about ten years ago.
\_ Young Asians in their twenties might not know her well.
\_ Young people like those in politburo do not know UNIX all
that well either. Young people are stupid and useless. Don't
hire whiny self-righteous young gen-Y people unless you
want to waste company resources. -Been there done that
\_ There was a saying about the Deng that ruled China: "By day, Deng
Xiaoping rules China, but by night, Deng Lijun rules."
\_ But the Dengs don't rule the whities. I mean, how many
whities actually know who she is?
\_ Not really related, but she was accused of spying for the KMT.
\_ Her #1 best song ever is The Moon Represents My Heart, although my
personal #1 favorite song is Wishing We Last Forever. |
| 2006/1/21-24 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Women] UID:41470 Activity:nil |
1/21 The Thailand-US free-trade agreement: enriching drug companies at the
expense of Thai citizens!
http://csua.org/u/eq3 (huffingtonpost.com)
\_ While this may be a very minor point in the overall article, I
I don't understand where he gets the idea of generic drug companies
being forced to conduct tests as being "unethical." Most people
whom I know in non-US pharma outfits see FDA regulations as a
major PITA, but at some level at least, see that they usually
(with a few egregious exceptions) make sense. -John
\_ Thailand is being absolutely stupid to sign bilateral trade
agreement with USA at first place. The reason why USA was pushing
for bilateral agreement is because WTO has built-in arbitration
mechanism thus USA couldn't really get away with all the wrong
doings. With bilateral agreement, there is no mechanism for smaller
economy to challenge dispute and/or violations
economy to challenge USA's violation of agreement. |
| 2006/1/18 [Health/Women] UID:41415 Activity:low |
1/18 Why is birth control called "birth control" instead of "pregnancy
control". Condoms, pills, and so on are really controlling pregnancy,
not birth.
\_ They are called "contraceptives" where I come from. "birth
control" is metonymic.
\_ Because out here in the real world it is generally assumed that
pregnancy leads to birth. This is a basic birds n bees thing.
\_ no.. it leads to the guillotine of partial birth abortion
\_ hi troll
\_ fewer syllables |
| 2005/11/28-30 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:40752 Activity:nil |
11/28 America land of gigantic asses, and here's the proof:
http://tinyurl.com/9sybk
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Fatter rear ends are causing many drug injections
to miss their mark, requiring longer needles to reach buttock muscle,
researchers said on Monday.
\_ Although your point is probably still valid, the study mentioned in
the article was done in Ireland, not America.
\_ yeah, I imagined the average American ass of an American
exceeds the average Irish ass.
\_ yeah, I assumed the average American ass exceeds the
average Irish ass. |
| 2005/11/28-30 [Health/Women] UID:40750 Activity:low |
11/28 Historical CPR guidelines:
1995: 15 presses and 5 breaths
2000: 15 presses and 2 breaths
2005: 30 presses and 2 breaths
\_ Slightly interesting, but did you have a point?
\_ People having grown a larger lung capacity with weaker hearts?
\_ It also varies between training agencies. The class I took about
a month ago suggested 15 presses and two breaths per cycle. The
change I found most noticeable from the last time I took a CPR
class (1993) was that they taught us to position our hands between
the victims nipples instead of coming up slightly from the tip of
the breastbone. The recommendations change over time as they
find different things working or failing in the field. The basic
idea of "get some air into the victim and squish it around"
remains unchanged.
\_ Bio nitpick: CPR is about getting some air in the lungs and then
putting pressure on the chest so the blood moves.
\_ how was pp's version wrong?
\_ "squish it around", i guess it depends on the meaning
of "it"
\_ Well, technically, I'm "squishing it around some"
on myself as I type. While semantically accurate, it
doesn't concisely explain what's actually happening.
He did make his point though, so this really is a
nitpick.
\_ "it" == "oxygenated blood". The reason you're trying to
move blood during CPR is to deliver oxygen.
\_ the joke in EMS is that the primary purpose of CPR is to
treat the anxiety of the person treating the patient. |
| 2005/10/29-31 [Health/Women] UID:40331 Activity:nil |
10/28 Ok, this Baboon baby actually does look sorta like W.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4376396.stm |
| 2005/10/24 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:40240 Activity:kinda low |
10/24 Dear motd baby experts, my wife and I have been trying to have a baby
for over a year but haven't had much luck. We're both over 30. This
month she had a fever and flu symptoms (muscle ache, chills, etc)
on the week she usually has her period and the fever lasted 2-3 days,
and she's about a week late. She doesn't want to "waste" EPT again
and now I'm really REALLY anxious. Are these signs that I may
finally be a daddy??!? Are these signs normal?
\_ It pains me to see people replace their professionally trained
doctors with motd.
\_ <hush falls over the crowd> ...... I think the motd baby experts
have spoken
\_ It's possible, pregnancy hormones can do some pretty crazy
stuff. Those symptoms are pretty severe though, my wife starts
getting nausea around her first skipped period. Home pregnancy
tests are pretty cheap.
\_ How much does an EPT cost?
\_ around $10 per test. Still pretty cheap.
\_ if you can't afford pregnancy tests, you really shouldn't be
having children... |
| 2005/8/31 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Women] UID:39390 Activity:nil |
8/31 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050831/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_safrica_rape Reminds me of childhood jokes about farmer and razor blades \_ It doesn't prevent anal rape. \_ Upcoming prison-issue version does |
| 2005/8/28-29 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:39315 Activity:kinda low |
8/28 Any serious weightlifters here? does anyone have any ideas on how
to "jumpstart" my muscles? I've been benching the same weight for
several years without much increase in max or chest size, and
I'm wondering what, if anything, I can do? the only thing I've
tried is not lifting for a few weeks, and that did not help
at all. thanks.
\_ supplements like creatine
\_ ask ax (or as blacks say, ax ax)
\_ I've increased my weightlifting capacity on bench from
say, 130 to 195 via 6-9 months or so of consistent work.
I haven't gotten 'huge', but I've had some increase, and I've
been eating 'healthy', with a little bit of emphasis on
protein, but not huge. For bench, I do 3-4 sets, with set
1 being warmup at 115, and thereafter doing weights that
I can lift 6-8 times, inclusive. I lift 3 hours per week or
so. I do 6-8 hours of cardio exercise per week. I am not on
any steroids or supplements. I do not exercise the same muscles
2 days in a row if I can help it, except cardio/abdominals. It
is possible you need to do more than bench. I do pull-ups, dips,
incline bench, seated rows, and sometimes biceps.
But if you haven't been doing anything wrong, you may have just
hit your maximum without chemical enhancement. What is your age?
\_ Because of my schedule, I can only go to the gym 4x/week,
max. I do 3 days of lifting and 1 day of cardio. I do
one day of chest/triceps, one of back/biceps, and one of
shoulders/legs, and I do 2 exercises for each set of
muscles. I definitely do not want to try any nutrition
supplements (shakes, creatine, etc), but I could try
modifying my regular diet. And I'm 26. Thanks. -op
\_ consider changing your workout around a bit, it may
stimulate other muscles that you have not been using
that may be impeding improvement. buy books that
have new exercise regimens you haven't tried.
but really, if you're serious, get a personal trainer.
\_ Roids!
\_ I'm a bad guy to ask- I benched 335 at age 23 at a body weight
of 190 lbs. I'm now 35 years old, weigh 189, and bench maybe 250.
I have high cholesterol, so I can't eat the red meat I need to regain
my power. With that in mind, my best gains in bench strength came when I
became obsessed with benching 275 for 10. (I had been doing it for 5
reps for years.) I lifted as heavy as I could
on every workout, I ate 3/4 lb hamburgers after every workout, I
ignored my aching joints and back. I was able to maintain that kind
of intensity for a few months. I got 275 for 9. The point is that
if you are stuck, you will have to put in a superhuman effort in
terms of lifting heavy weights and eating high protein if you want
to get past it. In terms of chest size, as is most size, it's pretty
linear with how much you weigh assuming you are working out and not
fat. I've found that for size increases, you don't have to do as much
heavy lifting, but regular training is more effective- lots of pushups,
dips, etc. Good Luck! Plateaus are a pain, but if you can make the
sacrifices, you can get past them. Eventually the cost to get past them
will be more than you are willing to pay. That's where I'm at.
Cardio doesn't really help you gain size or strength, it just saps
your bench in my experience. My lowest bench presses are usually
when I'm in my best cardio shape. -ax
\_ I have weak ankles and jogging/running is contraindicated. If I get
my cardio through swimming (breast-stroke), will this work out the
same muscles I'm working when I bench? --erikred
\_ People who swim a LOT usually have great pecs, and they
bench more than average, but if you want a big bench
press, I haven't found a way better than bench pressing
as much weight as you can handle. -ax
\_ Sorry, I mean, will swimming count as using the same
muscles (i.e., overworking them) as benching? --erikred
\_ 1. Why the same weight? You should be increasing. Do fewer reps
with more weight. 2. Work different muscles. Use free weights
or machines. Just doing a bench all the time won't cut it. Your
muscles are getting used to it. This is from my dad, who is
60, weighs 160, and benches 350+. He is a personal trainer. Also,
what ax says is true. Eat more protein/ change your diet. --dim
\_ Your Dad is a genetic wonder, you should thank him on a daily
basis. I'm sure there is endless hard training involved, but
those are truly amazing stats. Wow. I've only met one guy
like that in my whole life. And it's true, if you just
bench all the time, eventually you will hit an impasse. -ax
\_ You Dad is a genetic wonder, you should thank him on a daily
basis. Those are truly amazing stats. Wow. -ax
\_ He works out 6 days per week for hours each time. Sometimes
it is weights and others it is cardio. He is not trying to
bulk up. At his age it may not be possible. He was huge (like
a bodybuilder) when was young. He weighed over 200 then,
which is a lot since he's 5'9". No one could adhere to the
diet he keeps and not go crazy. Personally, I find weight
training boring and don't do it - genetics or not. The other
funny part is that many of his clients want to look like
he does and/or be that strong for their age. Most of them
don't last long. It's not the best business for him, but he
doesn't want to screw with someone who is not serious. He
says women make better clients because they want to look
good more than lift a lot. Young guys can lift a lot, but
look like hell (too bulky in some places and skinny legs for
example). When they lift a lot they think they are fit,
which is not really true.
\_ I'm a bit mystified by people who are neither lifting weights
for looks nor for cross training for some other sport. Is it
about bragging rights?
\_ Probably. There's an emphasis on how much you can lift
(usually on the bench press). "Yeah, I do 550." Dad
says a lot of those guys can't do squats and are
cardiovascularly unfit. Good looks come through
proportion and not working out just the chest and
biceps. |
| 2005/8/27-29 [Science/Biology, Health/Women] UID:39300 Activity:nil |
8/26 Smallest free-living cell SAR11:
http://www.terradaily.com/news/life-05zzzz.html |
| 2005/8/24-25 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:39246 Activity:kinda low |
8/24 Doctor being reviewed for telling fat woman she's obsese:
http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=59407
\_ if someone told her she was fat early on, maybe she wouldn't
be obese now...
\_ "My doctor told me I was fat. I said I wanted a second
opinion. He said, 'OK, you're ugly, too.'" - Henny Youngman
\_ This is sick. Good luck to that fat ass in finding another doctor.
What the fuck can she possibly be thinking. I doubt there is a
single person (other than her hired lawyer) who'll side with her.
\_ The fat doctor will side with her.
\_ No doctor will side with her. |
| 2005/8/23 [Health, Health/Women] UID:39225 Activity:moderate |
8/23 Utah police go nutzoid:
http://www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62975
\_ So, were all of the bits in the Sherriff's Dept. official
statement complete fabrication?
\_ Yeah, the police never fabricate anything.
\_ This is nothing. The Czech police used a tank!
\_ No, but when you have 2 versions of events on the internet,
and one requires the police to just be EVIL AND HATE FREEDOM
and the other that the people reporting this were on drugs
(while at a rave, no less), Occam's Razor says...
\_ Well the police's version (paraphrased) is that a large
party somebody is probably doing something illegal, so they
decided to bust it up and include the SWAT team because
regular cops are no match for raver kids.
\_ No, the police version is that something was probably
illegal, then that they didn't have the right permits,
then that they surveilled and there WAS illegal stuff
going on, then they went in.
\_ So do you suggest Gestapo tactics for other
gatherings that include illegal activity, such as
rock concerts and frat parties?
\_ And you just know at a left-wing political rally
somebody's going to be carrying drugs.
\_ Right, and at a right wing political rally
you know somebody is going to be carrying
loaded automatic weaponry without the proper
permit. So either way, yay!
concealed loaded automatic weaponry, so
either way, yay!
\_ Um, read some of the local press articles linked to from
the various web forums. Guns, Drugs, and note how they
bring up the possibility of rape, and how there may be
many minors (won't someone think of the children!) there.
They make it sound like a Hell's Angels 666th anniversary
grill party and baby sacrifice. Occam's razor also says
that mindless police brutality and excessive force are not
unknown. But then it's just a bunch of drug-addled
children, so... -John
\_ Heh, I like this:
"I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on
him....They had liscenced security guards at the gates
confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they
searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should
mention that they arrested all the security guards for
possession." |
| 2005/8/8-11 [Science/GlobalWarming, Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Health/Women] UID:39053 Activity:nil |
8/8 Anyone else going to Linux World Expo tomorrow? -jrleek
\_ well, I don't know, are they gonna have beautiful women with
bikini, kind of like what they have for Nascar or Indy-500 where
georgeous women surround Linux PCs instead of race cars?
\_ Will it be anything like this picture of E3?
http://www.seanbaby.com/e32001/images/fatty.jpg |
| 2005/7/27-29 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:38846 Activity:nil |
7/27 Lonely old Vietnamese whose women have been taken by Koreans whose women
have been taken by dorky white guys can buy Japanese android women:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4714135.stm
\_ don't worry, closet apartheid guy, my CS geek friend from Cal is
vietnamese but he married a corn-fed blonde Indiana girl and it
all averages out. |
| 2005/7/18 [Health/Women] UID:38693 Activity:nil |
7/18 Time to dispose of radical feminist pork
http://townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20050718.shtml |
| 2005/7/16-18 [Health, Health/Women] UID:38660 Activity:nil |
7/16 Morning-After Pill May Be Banned From Wisconsin University Campuses.
Is this a sign of things to come where everything is moving
more and more to the right?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162694,00.html
\_ so let em. what're you worried about? government infringing on |
| 2005/7/8-12 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Health/Women] UID:38493 Activity:nil |
7/8 Cycle mania in Brittain:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050708/od_nm/britain_cycles_dc
\_ This is too cool: http://www.addisonlee.com/taxybikes.html
A lot of friends of mine have taken to these (Virgin also had
something similar called a limoucycle or bikousine) -John |
| 2005/7/6-7 [Health/Women, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:38430 Activity:low |
7/5 punky brewster way pregnant
http://tinypic.com/6rrkld.jpg
\_ Cute little Punky Brewster... the good 'ol 80s when I grew up.
2 decades later, she got fat, ugly, and too busy endulging
herself with latte fratte & capuccino that she doesn't care about
anything else except with things concerning herself. In a way,
that is like many of us, a typical apathetic and lazy Gen-X that
our media accurately stereotype us to be. Gen-X is one the most
pathetic generation out there. You heard me right. Whereas our
parents were in-tune with the environment, were sensitive to
social inequalities, and were filled with a sense of honor to
change the world for a better place, the Gen-X were too busy
buying the latest Yuppie toys, drinking Starbucks and obsessed
with making money without doing hard honest work to earn it.
Shame on Gen-X. It's TIME FOR INTROSPECTION.
\_ You need to take off those rose colored glasses about the Baby
Boomers and stop listening to what your parents told you about the
60's.
\_ Our parents protested against war, bombed institutions,
dropped out of school, and did drugs. They made big news and
caused our politicians to think twice. Maybe the effects
were not always what they intended, but the fact of the
matter was that they had guts and passion. Fast forward to
us Gen-X. We were too busy with ourselves and our Atari,
Colleco, Nintendo, and Sega. We don't give a damn about
anything but ourselves. They say that there's always a
bit of truth in stereotypes, and the media is right on
target.
P.S. The fact that there are many GenX on motd and only 1
addressed or came to their defense says a lot about the
so called apathetic GenX.
\_ Just out of curiousity, did YOUR parents do those
things? Also, most of that crap was in response to
the draft. You see a draft these days? Also, most
hippies became yuppies. Big protest.
\_ I read on this liberal blog the other day that women
often gain weight during pregnancy.
\_ Go see the movie, Wallstreet. That is your parents' generation.
Thankfully, I was born after the Boomers but before their kids,
the so-called Gen-X kids so whatever you and your horrible
parents do to the world is not my fault. There aren't enough
of us "in-betweeners" to even get a catchy media created label.
\_ Just curious, what year where you born? I was born in 1965
and I consider myself part of the first Gen-Xers.
\_ Go find a chart showing how many new borns there were for
each year from 1945 to now. 1965 is the very tail end of
the baby boomers. Between 1966 and about 1972 or so births
were way down (comparitively), then they shot up again as
the post-WWII boomers started having kids. From ~67 to
maybe 71 or 72 you're neither boomer nor "gen-x".
\_ My impression is:
1950: Boomers
1960: In-Betweener
1970: Gen-X (video game generation)
1980: Gen-Y
Correct me if I'm wrong
\_ I thought: Gen-75, Gen-Y: '80+, also the kids of the
boomers are Gen-Y, not Gen-X. I was born in '76,
and consider myself young for Gen-X, but too old for
Gen-Y.
\_ You are wrong .. j/k.
I think t is:
boomers: 45-65
Gen-X: 65-80
Gex-Y: 80+
I qualify as a Gen-Xer mostly because I went to college
late, so all my friends are born in 1970 or so, but I
really think 1965 is right on the cusp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X |
| 2005/6/30 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:38380 Activity:very high |
6/30 Every time there's white women bashing on motd, no one comes forward
to defend them. Take the example responses from "My wife is a
naturalized..." and "many [blonds] are shallow or bitchy". Isn't
this racism, and why isn't anyone pointing it out or defending
white women? If you're a white male who has a preference for
Asian women that's understandable, but don't you think your
sister(s) and mom deserve to be defended? I'm baffled.
\_ you're not baffled, you're just stupid. -tom
\_ Why can't he be both?
\_ A lot of women are shallow or bitchy. Happy now? (What does
"shallow" even mean really? If they're not constantly gazing off
into space pondering life's mysteries, and falling in love with
you when you try chatting with them at the mall, I guess they're
shallow.)
\_ Shallow women are the best kind much of the time, anyway.
Hot, dumb, and shallow is a great combination unless you
are choosing a wife.
\_ "Shallow" means she's not deep enough to accomodate the full
length of my cock.
\_ [ deleted cause it offended my ... oh so sensitive sensibilities ]
\_ Go fuck yourself. The whole thread is idiotic, but I find
censorship to be far more offensive than anything written here. |
| 2005/6/23 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:38252 Activity:nil |
6/23 Soy products, yet another form of birth control:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/06/22/fertility.soya.reut |
| 2005/6/16-18 [Health/Women] UID:38156 Activity:nil |
6/16 American women, total wacko:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8231727
\_ culture of death |
| 2005/6/15-17 [Health, Health/Women] UID:38131 Activity:low |
6/15 I know there was a discussion a couple of weeks ago about RSI and
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome but I wasn't paying attention. Now my SO has
developed wrist pain after using the computer for a couple of hours
(we're guessing it's RSI not CTS but we're not sure) and I'd like to
know: a) is this something people go to see a doctor about and if so
does anyone have any recommendations for a good doctor (preferably
in the south bay)? b) any specific advice besides "take breaks every
10 minutes" etc, especially about setting up an ergonomically healthy
computer desk setup?
\_ You need to approach this problem from all sides. I had RSI and
the pain was so severe that after an hour typing I'd have so much
pain that I'd have to stop. I took frequent mini vacations but
after a while they no longer worked. I finally filed for worker's
comp through HR and they'd set me up with 2 chiropractor
appointments a week. By the way, despite what you hear, worker's
comp for RSI is very very common in Silicon Valley and in many
cases the HR shields this information from your peers and boss.
Anyways, here is the 411 from my doctors and chiropractors. As
you get older, the ability for your body to regenerate muscles,
cartilage, etc diminish. Many short distance runners have to quit
because they can no longer regenerate some parts at a rate they
used to, and eventually their body parts wear out that it hits
the nerves. Same with typing. You're getting older. You'll never
feel as good as flexible and agile as when you were 18, but you
can do a few things. First, increase the rate at which your body
regenerates-- EXERCISE! Cardio is the best. Do this twice a week,
you'll notice dramatic differences in a few months. You should
also STRETCH your hands once every 30 min when you type. Make
this mandatory! Lastly, as a temporarry but immediate relief, use
Kinesis-Ergo keyboard. I did something drastic and even used
Dvorak layout on top of my Kinesis, but there is a lot of
commitment involved. Finally, do all of the above and do it
CONSISTENTLY. It's been 3-4 years since I started my therapy
and according to my doctors and chiros I'm 80-90% healed.
\_ I'd email you exactly how I got rid of my RSI but you're anonymous
\_ I'd email you and tell you my login so you can e-mail me your
advice but you're anonymous... oh wait.
\_ you're the one asking for help, dude.
\_ email me please. !op kngharv
\_ maybe you should email williamc@csua.berkeley.edu because he says
there is no correlation between RSI and typing. Maybe he can give
you advice on what he does that prevents him from getting RSI, like
proper diet or just having fewer neurons that dulls your sensation.
\_ I found that not resting my wrists below the level of (or for
laptops, on) the keyboard, trying to work in not-too-cold
temperatures, using a wrist pad, using a low-impact keyboard (easy
to push keys, not too clicky) and just doing wrist/hand/forearm
stretching exercises every few minutes helped a lot. -John
\_ I think John's suggestions are all good. I use the Soft
Splints from http://www.mousemitt.com to keep my wrists
at the proper level and keep my hands warm while typing.
You may end up looking like a Hobo or Glenn Gould or something
wearing them, but I prefer them to wrist pads, especially for
laptops. - ciyer
\_ I find this mouse very helpful, eventhough it may look like an
obscene sex toy: http://www.animax.no or, if you can't find it
anywhere, try amazon and look for:
http://www.3m.com/us/office/myworkspace/mos_ergo.jhtml
\_ That looks good. I might get one of those. It's funny that it
looks a lot like a good ole fashioned joystick. Incidentally, I
bought a rollerball mouse. It's good in that I can actually do
CAD work for more than an hour at a time now, but I still get
pain when I have long projects. -- ulysses
\_ I got one of those bowl keyboards.
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/essential.htm and yes they are
espensive and yes it took several weeks before I could really type
and over a month before I type well but I was having serious pain
in my right hand before I switched and as long as I use that
keyboard the pain is totally gone now. -aspolito
\_ You can find utilities that remind you to take rest breaks, or just
set a kitchen timer. Learn about stretches specific for
keyboarding
http://www.askergoworks.com/about_erg_stretch_breaks.asp has a
downloadable .pdf with examples of stretches. I also find that a
split keyboard helps. I switched to vim for editing so I don't use
ctrl-alt chording as much as I did with emacs. I also started
mousing with my left hand (I can play FPS's now, though it took a
while to adjust). Finally, strength exercises for back and
shoulders help your posture and force your body into a position
that's better for your arms.
\_ I went to the Stanford hand clinic when I had a problem with my
ulnar nerve. Had physical therapy, which was almost all just hot
paraffin wraps of my forearms. They also had me do exercises
with silly putty and elastic bands to strengthen my wrists, and
I use softcasts whenever I type for extended periods. All that
seemed to work, and I've been pain free for years now. The paraffin
wraps helped calm down my inflamed ulnar, and I think my longer
term nerve-healthiness is due to the softcasts. I am not sure the
exercises helped a whole lot, but I wasn't terribly diligent in
doing the exercises in the first place. BTW, I had a grand old
time talking the clinic resident into ordering all kinds of
expensive nerve induction tests, all of which were paid for by my
insurance. There's probably some kind of insurance-reform parable
in there somewhere.
\_ Try these busty mousepads: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=1498
\_ I haven't tried the Kinesis kb's, but I personally use a normal
MS ergo split key with the 3M ergo mouse. The mouse made a
huge difference for me. One of my coworkers with more extreme
RSI uses something called a touchstream keyboard. It's pretty
nice since it requires near zero force to type and mouse.
Make sure you get your desk ergonomically evaluated and do wrist
stretches ever day. |
| 2005/6/2-3 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:37943 Activity:kinda low |
6/2 When women drive, evil thrives.
http://csua.org/u/c8z
\_ The Saudis are half right. Now if they could just ban men from
driving cars also, they'd be on to something.
\_ Then they'll have more oil to export. Good for us, good for
them.
\_ Actually they're on to something. Men are more likely to get into
an accident, but they also drive twice as far. Mile for mile, women
are 2X more likely to get into an accident. I can attribute this to
the fact that every time I see someone driving recklessly, it is
a female driver talking on the cell phone while doing make-up. I
also have observations on drivers over 80 years old and immigrant
drivers, but I'll save them later.
\_ WTF do you mean by "immigrant"? Asian backwoods folks? Or Russians?
\_ BS. Where do you get these figures? If driving longer, does
that mean highway (safer) miles? Most accidents happen near the
home and in city/local driving...doesnt mean shit.
\_ BS? http://christianparty.net/mvfr.htm Endorsed by Jesus.
\_ This site is just amazing... Wow. No really, wow.
\_ http://christianparty.net/talmud.htm
Haha! There are some real gems on that site.
I especially love the claim that hybrids are more
susceptible to disease. Or, heck, the claim that
the Celto-Saxons (?) are the true Israelites.
Man, I can just go on and on. Whoever pasted this
link, thanks! -- ilyas
\_ What's a Talmud? It's too long to read. Also,
are you Jewish? What is Balaam?
\- it is a guide for the perplexed.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980516133725data_trunc_sys.shtml |
| 2005/3/30-31 [Health/Women, Health/Sleeping] UID:36984 Activity:low |
3/30 Neurologist's Report on Terri Released
http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/30/144422.shtml
\_ One of two neurologists hired by the Schlinders. This one is the
nutjob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hammesfahr
Yes, he is also listed on http://quackwatch.org |
| 2005/3/7 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Health/Women] UID:36559 Activity:kinda low |
3/7 Anyone else thinks that the wounded Italian communist journalist looks
like Hillary?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050307/photos_pl/mdf886103
\_ A little bit. I have to say, she looks a LOT better than most of
the 57 year old women I've known in my life.
the 57 year old women I've known in my life. To hell, she looks
better than a lot of the EECS women I've seen. |
| 2005/3/4-5 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:36525 Activity:moderate |
3/4 Ok you people who actually see doctors: what is the normal course of
action if you had stomach/abdominal pain all night? Emergency room,
or try to make some kind of appointment? --ouch
\_ How bad and where? Look down at your abdomen. If it hurts in the
lower right like you're being stabbed, go to the Emergency Room.
ASAP _/
\_ especially if you press your finger there, and when you remove
your finger it hurts - that's your appendix rupturing
the other side is your stomach, no big whoop
\_ I guess it's not like that. it just aches and hurts if I push
below my navel. i also feel a little feverish. well I'll try
calling them.
\_ That just sounds like pre-diarrhea to me.
\_ abdominal cramps!
\_ Go to critical care clinic, i fyou have one available.
\_ Go to critical care clinic, if you have one available.
Otherwise call your doctor and make an appointment.
Do not go to the ER if you can avoid it. With your
relatively minor complaint, you will sit there all day.
If you are running a serious fever (over 102) then go
If you are running a serious fever (over 101) then go
to the ER. They will see you immediately.
\_ I hope to God you're not still sitting around reading this.
If you're feverish and have ab pain, go to the Emergency
Room. If you're lucky, it's just food poisoning; if you're
somewhat lucky, it's an infection that can be treated. If
you're out of luck, goodbye appendix.
\_ Don't overreact. Here is the diagnosis tree for
abdominal pain:
http://familydoctor.org/x2593.xml
\_ nah I did end up calling my clinic and ended up spending
all day in there. they couldn't rule out appendicitis.
but now I'm home and it only hurts a little so it's
probably not.
\_ The hospital usually has a number for questions, something like
the duty nurse. You can talk to this person and they can usually
give you good advice on whether to go to the emergency room, or
visit your doctor. Plus, they would know if there is a doctor
available at their clinic that has open appointments.
\_ If you dont' think your life is in danger I would probably go to
an urgent care center.
\_ M-x Doctor |
| 2005/2/25 [Health/Women] UID:36411 Activity:high |
2/24 Hey ilya, is it true that in Russia, women <24 are skinny twigs,
and over 40 old Olgas are "Mother Russia"?
\_ I don't think ilyas is Russian
\_ That's what I keep hearing. However, I left russia when I was young
enough to not be paying attention to women, so I didn't really
notice. -- ilyas
\_ I was in Moscow and St. Petersburg ~2 years ago. I wasn't really
all that impressed. What did astound me, though, was that a lot
of very young girls were seriously jailbaiting (many of them while
hanging out with mom.) -John |
| 2005/2/24-25 [Health/Women] UID:36404 Activity:low |
2/24 I'm starting my Ohio Players collection. Which albums should I buy
first? -- ulysses
\_ Ohio Players albums are best judged by the sexiness of the women
on the cover of any given record. It's too bad you probably
aren't buying them on vinyl, as the gatefold sleeves with the
naked women curled seductively around firehoses (or whatever)
have to be seen to be believed. I recommend Fire followed
by Skin Tight and Honey. --lye
\_ Based on your criteria, though, wouldn't Orgasm, Pain or
Pleasure come first? :) Thanks. I was already leaning toward Skin
Tight or Orgams so I appreciate the input. -- ulysses
\_ Luckily for you, nobody in the CSUA ever takes motd quotes
out of context. -John
\_ Actually, I was kind of counting on it. I think sb should
make an OPs fridge magnet set. -- ulysses
\_ It doesn't matter which you get, so long as it's on 8-track. |
| 2005/1/22-24 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:35861 Activity:insanely high |
1/22 My gf and I were always fit, but as we get older we'd like to
start working out. We already do stuff like Pilates. We want to
learn to weight train, but not break the bank. Where do we start?
We checked out some health clubs and they seem more geared towards
parting us from our money. Do we hire a trainer? If so, how do we
choose one?
\_ Have you looked at the good ole fashioned YMCA? There are many
cheaper but the Y staff aren't used car salesmen. Most Ys
have pools, sauna, hot tub, steam room, towel service, many many
classes, trainers (separate fee) and, should you end up that way,
2 hours of free child care/visit. -- ulysses
\_ How about getting your own weight machine type of thing and
using it?
\_ Sure. Which one works and how do we learn to use it?
\_ Get a bench and a bunch of free weights. The home machines are
not worth what you have to pay for them.
\_ Don't discount gyms out of hand--I'd ask around. There are bound
to be reputable ones, which will give you help with weight
training (before trying a new exercise, you should ask someone who
knows what they're doing, or you'll very possibly do it wrong and
have no benefit or hurt yourself--lots of people are embarrassed to
ask the trainers at gyms, which is what they are paid for.) If
you get a home setup, the above poster's spot-on. -John
\- re: "health clubs seem like a ripoff" ... what do you feel
is a reasonable monthly or yearly fee for a "health club"?
and i assume you mean a gym. if you want stuff like towel
service, you should expect to pay. if you feel the gym fees
are too much, i think you will find the trainer fees high.
you do pilates? are you a woman? --psb
you do pirates? are you a woman? --psb
\_ It's interesting that you point out the "gym" vs. "health
club" thing. I've spent the last few months comparing
outfits in the east bay. There are now many many more
"health clubs" than gyms. For gyms you have Gold's, World,
God's (in Oakland) and Ironworks. Everybody else is a
health club, which range from hole in the wall personal
trainers to glorified yoga studios to full-on 24 Hour-esque
franchises like Club One. The neighborhood gym appears to
be a thing of the past. -- ulysses
\_ Are you asking me? I have no clue, as my gym is in .ch. I
get good weights & exercise machines, it's clean, the
trainers are professionals, and a sauna/hot tub/steam bath,
squash courts and nice selection of exercise classes for
about 70 bucks/month. -John
\_ It's not that the fees are too high. It's that the clubs
seem mostly interested in screwing you out of your money
in the way a used car dealer does. I didn't find anything
upfront about it and I wasn't exactly sure what I'd be
paying for. At least with a trainer I'd feel less likely
I'm being fucked around with - or are trainers also a
shady lot?
\_ Could you be more specific about their ripoff schemes?
I've never joined a gym, but I'm curious.
\_ I would definitely lift for the first couple of months with a
professional who knows what they're doing. It's very easy to
injure yourself on weights if you don't know what you're doing.
I think after the first few months you could indeed lift without
a trainer. However, remember that weight lifting is not
super-aerobic, and you should pair it with some cardio-based
workouts for your heart. -chaos
\_ Consider joining the Cal Alumni Association (a flat $500 for a
lifelong membership, or $50 per year if you don't think you're
going to live 10 more years), and then signing up with the RSF.
\-I think the RSF is a poor choice unless possible you live within
walking distance or you are trying to hit on students. The hours
arent great. It is crowded. It is hard to park. It is not really
cheaper than other options. It only has one branch. etc. --psb
cheaper than other options. It only has one branch. etc. What is
good about the RSF? --psb
\_ the college babes?
\_ At Berkeley?!
\_ Uhm, yes.
\_ I don't believe it.
\_ You haven't been to campus recently, have you? :)
\_ I haven't but my wife is there almost everyday.
She assures me that the eye candy for women
is more plentiful than that for men, just as was
the case in the mid 90's when I was there. This
compared to her earlier campus, UCLA, where she
said she often felt faint walking through
campus for all the esteem-destroying
competition. Not in Berkeley. If you can
prove otherwise with pix. Please post.
\_ I don't think using UCLA or UCSD as a
standard is sane.
\_ I guess it depends on whether you prefer
the bleached blond, fake bake, boob job look
over the healthy lean asian hottie. I prefer
the latter.
\_ Have you not sat down and watched at
UCLA yet? You can also go to Beverly
Center on a weekend.
\_ A healthy number of pools, fitness classes, a good range of
equipment, and you'll always be in better shape than that
old Sociology prof who keeps trying to make good on his
'01 resolutions. Seriously, though, it's fine if you live
nearby, much less so if you don't.
\_ The RSF gym is not just crowded. It's VERY crowded when I was
in school a decade ago. You couldn't do something like do a
set, rest 10sec, and do one more, because there would be six or
seven pairs of eyes looking at you disgustingly. You have to
either start your next set immediately, or get up and wait at
the end of the long line again.
\_ You can haggle. My 24 hour fitness membership is 24 a month
and my company reimburses me for it. But you pay a huge fee
up front.
\_ Indeed, I acted extremely hesitant when I went in to sign
up at one place, so the guy kept tacking on extra months
at no extra cost. Then he gave me a $100 gift certificate
at a shoe store, free training sessions, etc..
\_ Ah, so at 24Hour things are negotiable. I didn't know that.
\_ When I lived in LA back in 1996, I went to Family Fitness.
Lots of machines, nice friendly atmosphere, new and clean
facilities. No frills except for a juice / smoothie bar.
It was like $100 for 6 months then, and they stated it
upfront, no oily sales pitch, no any other fees, just $100
for 6 months.
\_ 24 Hour bought Family Fitness a while back. All hail 24.
\- The one thing I will advise you is if you get any special deals
absolutely get them in writing. I asked for things like being
able to put the membership clock on pause when i was on travel
and sometimes they "forgot" about those agreements or didnt
mention you can only do tht for n-weeks or that there was a
$10 charge to freeze etc. Otherwise if you know what you want,
the pressure shouldnt matter too much.
\_ go to UCLA. Go to the John Wooden Center nearby Ashe Center.
They have a really nice synthetic wall to climb, 3 really really
nice swimming pools, and the gals there look fantastic. Maybe
you can get a new gf as well [one who doesn't yet need to workout]
\_ Go to a gym to find a girl who doesn't need to workout? I
would speculate they look great because they work out.
Otherwise they wouldn't be there.
\_ You and your damn logic.
\_ Threesomes will keep you healthy.
\_ With a female third or male?
\_ Which way is your bread buttered?
\_ Hmm.
1) The third guy screws you while you screw your gf's
front.
2) You screw the third guy while he screws your gf's rear.
3) The third guy screws your gf's front while you screw her
rear.
Each of the three of you have two partners and four
different intercourses. It only takes three positions.
Highly optimized.
\_ If sex were about optimization, you'd just go to a
sperm bank.
\_ Sperm bank is for reproduction, not sex.
\_ This works just as well for guy-girl-girl.
\_ As long as the extra girl has a penis.
\_ Or strap-on, if you're so inclined. However,
you can get four intercourses per person in
m-f-f scenario as well, as long as you include
oral (and why not? You're already accepting
anal). |
| 2004/12/28 [Health, Health/Women] UID:35458 Activity:high |
12/28 Excellent point about Vioxx, etc. that I've been saying (but he's
saying it much better):
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041228.shtml
\_ Good article. -- ilyas
\_ This explains a lot.
\_ well written. the last few sentences are great.
\- isnt everything in there obvious to moderately educated people?
\_ not necessarily. 1) you overestimate the intelligence
of the american public. 2) I'm not implying anything
about people's intelligence here, but I doubt everyone
viewed this vioxx situation in the same way.
\_ I think this article completely misses the point. The problem
is not one of risk management but of the drug companies
knowingly concealing evidence about the dangers of a drug while
spending millions marketing it to patients and doctors. One
more thing: when I played high school football, most people wore
as many pads as they could. Running backs wore even *more* padding
since they got hit so much. The only people I knew who wore less
padding were quarterbacks (pads can hinder throwing). Maybe the
pros are better at dodging than the people I played with. -emin
\_ They are bigger for sure, and have more 'natural padding'.
Also, they get paid more, so the hit in performance from
more padding is of more interest to them than to a random
high school guy who plays football for 'fun and status.' |
| 2004/11/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Health/Women] UID:34834 Activity:high |
11/11 Pharmacists in Red States refuse to give out contraceptive
pills because of religion and/or personal belief:
http://tinyurl.com/4tamp
\_ Sounds like quite the opportunity for competition to thrive.
\_ Man, just wait until you get a Jehova's Witness in charge of a
hospital!
\_ how about a Christian Science Emergency Room? HAHAHA
\_ don't insult Christian Science, they really work. Here is
a proof-- they can make infertile women have babies
again: http://tinyurl.com/5wfnf
\_ That's unbelievable. Your personal views have absolutely no
place in your professional practice. I can't believe that
people like that still exist in this country.
\_ apparently 53% of the Americans don't agree with you.
\_ Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
\_ I am pro-choice, but that's irrelevant. A customer
should be free to have ANY prescription filled,
no matter what it is. It's not the pharmacist's job
to decide if it's appropriate, it's the doctor's.
\_ Is it irrelevant? Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon.
Would you be as unsympathetic to a health worker or
pharmacist in Oregon who refuses to participate in an
assisted suicide case?
\_ Congratulations, you just compared birth control pills
to suicide! Stay tuned for the moral equation of
gay marriage with slavery and the halocaust!
\_ Yep. I assume the pharmacist in the original
story believes that birth control == murder. Just
as some Oregon health care provider might belive
assisted suicide == murder. Legality has very
little to do with morality, which is why I asked
if the poster was pro-choice or pro-life. We
are all relatively comfortable with birth control
being morally neutral, and that allows the prof.
practice poster to take such a strong stand. I
would guess that we can mostly accept that it
would be more legitimate to find assisted suicide
not morally neutral, which is why I asked the
poster if he would still be as comfortable with
his uncompromising stance. If he is just as
uncompromising, great, though one might mention that
following orders is not a sufficient excuse in many
situations. If he is more flexible
with refusing to help with legal assisted suicide,
then that raises the pro-life/pro-choice question,
since the original pharmacist presumably believe
that birth control == murder. In any case, it's
easy to condemn someone, but it's probably not
terribly production. It's much more useful to
try to understand someone's behavior.
\_ Birth control pills are not, contrary to common belief,
aborticants (i think that's the word). They act by
preventing ovulation. No egg ever gets fertalized.
\_ Contrary to common belief? Jesus fucking christ, are
people really that ignorant?
\_ What do you think...? -John
\_ ja sind sie
\_ Every time something is done to prevent our Christian
hordes from filling every nook and cranny of the planet
a crime is committed. And every sperm is sacred.
\_ I really don't think that that's common belief.
\_ "abortifacients".
\_ I don't quite get this, I thought anti-birth control was a
Catholic thing, not a prodestant thing.
\_ the supposedly better educated Northern Blue State
Elitists' ability to spell amazes and embarrases me -liberal
\_ We're better at it, at least. I hope. |
| 2004/11/9 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:34775 Activity:very high |
11/9 why isn't the heart drug made for blacks a hate drug?
\_ you are stupid
\_ he's stupid but still makes a good point. for decades the
medical research field has ignored racial differences when
studying disease and the effects of drugs (also the diff. between
men and women as well). should we ignore race for medical
reasons? does doing so make us racist or does not doing so make
us racist by denying that "we're all the same" and color is only
skin deep, etc? you too easily dismiss the core concept because
it was presented by a moron.
\_ We don't ignore race. It's long been understood that blacks
are more genetically prone toward sickle cell anemia, and
ethnic Jews have a higher rate of Tay-Sachs. Diagnosis and
treatment have been aimed at race.
\_ Those are very obvious cases. There are numerous much
more subtle differences between people/races that most
medical researchers won't touch with a 10 mile pole.
Race is a hot button issue. I wouldn't risk my career or
funding on the more subtle stuff. Would you? Very few are
willing to talk about it much less conduct serious medical
research in this area.
\_ alright, let's say there's a drug for whites only. Can you
imagine what the public reaction would be?
\_ Very good point.
\_ Bullshit. If there is a drug that for some genetic
reason has a beneficial effect on one group and none
for another, that's not racist, and I think you'd be
hard pressed to find any rational person who would
call it a _good point_
\_ SUNSCREEN IS RACIST, BITCH! |
| 2004/10/18 [Politics/Domestic/Abortion, Health/Women] UID:34188 Activity:very high |
10/18 THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC ABOUT TO STONE A 13 YEAR-OLD GIRL
http://csua.org/u/9j0
\_ No, he's just totally 133t!
\_ That's "ABOUT TO STONING". Read the damn article. -John
\_ They're been stoning little girls and women for a long time in
Muslim countries. So what? You want to invade? We're not the
world's police. This is an internal cultural issue.
\_ America, Fuck Yeah!
\_ We have death penalty for minors here... what's the big deal?
the death penalty or the offense?
\_ Death by stoning, think about it...
\_ For one thing, it's a 13 year old pregnant by her 15 year
old brother. I highly doubt she propositioned him. The
brother is NOT getting the death penalty. (He's getting 150
lashes, which, depending on the kind of lash, could be a
death penalty. Anyone know what the approved lash is in
Islam?) I think they're just angry about the gross double
standard. |
| 2004/10/15 [Health/Women] UID:34141 Activity:high |
10/14 So I talked to a few women and my impression from them is that
they don't really care to understand the actual issues/facts/
figures. Nope. They're voting because they FEEL that one
candidate seems smarter or another candidate seems kinder and
down to earth. Ok I've gotten a LOT of women voters who want
the kinder/down to earth Monkey in Command we have now. Can
someone tell me why the fuck women's sufferage started and
how in the world it ever got into our amendments?
-not troll, just a normal guy looking at facts
(oh, and on average, men ARE smart and base our
decisions on facts/figures. That's why we DESERVE
a bigger paycheck).
\_ One can name quite a few presidents who never would
have been elected without the female vote. They are all Dem.
\_ Hey neat, a liberal troglodyte!
\_ I would argue that women have a better sense of knowing when
they're getting fucked or when the guy is genuine. They seem to
be better at this then men, and they know it. |
| 2004/9/20 [Recreation/Computer, Health/Women] UID:33630 Activity:moderate |
9/20 For the guy looking for gangster manga/anime, you might enjoy
Sanctuary by Ryoichi Ikegami. -John
\_ You can always recognize his work because while all the
pictures are beautifully draw and shaded, everyone is wearing
the same expression.
\_ related question, does anyone know ANY women who enjoy Hentai?
\_ One of the hentai review sits I've seen was all women
(apparently). The reviews tended to favor vids with, you know,
a plot. They had a separate "etchi" rating to let you know just
how well it might get one's rocks off as far as tentacle rape
and such.
\_ gosh this is like young healthy straight men who hate sex
\_ I found 8 in the Bay Area on Friendster.
http://www.friendster.com/viewphotos.php?uid=8776826 |
| 2004/9/14 [Health/Women, Health/Men, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:33512 Activity:kinda low |
9/13 Police in Najaf have found the bodies of 200
men, women and children in a mass grave.
http://www.memri.org/ticker.html
\_ YOU MUST CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING LIKE THAT SITE! OTHERWISE IT WILL NOT
SEEM IMPORTANT. DRUDGEREPORT UNDERSTANDS. XXX DEVELOPING... |
| 2004/8/31 [Health/Women] UID:33262 Activity:high |
8/31 Ignoring what Moore says, the contemporary example for
unequal pay for the same work between men and women is Wal-Mart.
http://www.walmartversuswomen.com/faq.html
"Sworn declarations [in the class-action lawsuit]... among them:
... Managers repeatedly informed women employees that men 'need to be
paid more than women because they have families to support.'
... because 'men are here to make a career and women aren't. Retail is
for housewives who just need to earn extra money.'"
(Moore just ties the behavior of Wal-Mart to the GOP, a link which he
doesn't adequately support.)
\_ The link is obvious. They are the party pushing for deregulation,
gutting the SEC's audit team, trying to gut Tort law, etc etc etc.
The dems push equal pay policy quietly, but at least it's on their
radar.
\_ I don't know: you make some good points on GOP favoring corporate
profits over regulation, but you still haven't persuaded me. -op
\_ This wouldn't even really be about profits. This is about
stripping away regulations and litigative powers. These are
the only tools the people, through the government, hold to
keep corporations in check. The GOP want them gone.
The equal pay for equal work people think the issue should be
on the same level of concern as environmental pollution. The
GOP would love to see both concerns vanish.
\_ There's lies, damn lies, and statistics:
The New York Times reported on Feb. 16, 2003 that a study
commissioned by the plaintiffs. lawyers and released that month by
Richard Drogin, emeritus statistics professor at California State
University, Hayward, "found that full-time women hourly employees
working at least 45 weeks at Wal-Mart made abut $1,150 less per year
than men in similar jobs, a 6.2% gap. Women store managers, he
found, made an average of $89,280 a year, $16,400 less than men."
No mention of methodology. I'm always suspicious of these kind of
studies because they often do not look for other correlations that
might explain the data.
\_ It has enough merit to stand up in court.
\_ Which means squat about its methodological correctness.
\_ and of course you have statistics which show that women
are paid fairly at walmart... |
| 2004/7/11-12 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Women] UID:32215 Activity:kinda low |
7/11 http://www.eruptzine.com/rant3.html kind of funny to read ("pussy eating corrosives") haha \_ yeah wow that was funny like a pie in the face! woop! woop! woop! |
| 2004/6/29-30 [Health/Women] UID:31056 Activity:nil |
6/29 Atkins as a form of birth control:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996085 |
| 2004/6/26-27 [Health/Women] UID:31022 Activity:nil |
6/26 Baby Held Hostage, Stabbed in Standoff (w Prev. Deported Alien)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1160863/posts
\_ innocent women and children killed by US. http://www.cnn.com |
| 2004/6/10 [Politics/Domestic/California, Health/Women] UID:30714 Activity:insanely high |
6/10 What did William Randolph Hearst, one of the most powerful man
on earth during the early 1900s, see in Marion Davies? I mean, she's
not particular pretty or anything, what exactly did he see in her?
\_ One word: Rosebud.
\_ I think she was quite beautiful. And supposedly she was
very funny and charming.
\_ To judge a partner only by looks is extraordinarily shallow.
I don't know if Hearst was -- perhaps he satisfied any need
for "pretty" women with mistresses, common for rich men.
\_ But MARION was the mistress, at least at first, no?
In any case, she stayed with him long after she herself
had become independently wealthy ... so maybe they really
just loved each other.
\_ lame question, but back in the 20s-40s, pre-pill era, what the
heck did they use for birth control?
\_ Condoms have been around for centuries.
\_ I'd think the world's most powerful man would prefer
not using the condom because it feels so much better
\_ Syphilis URL nutcase to thread...
\_ I don't think he is the world's most powerful man,
perhaps the most powerful man in his castle.
\_ Withdrawal.
\_ Have you ever actually... you know... with a girl... *talked* to
one? And no, for-pay online sex-cam chat doesn't count.
\_ Have you ever done the castle tour? According to the tour guides,
they were very much in love with each other.
\_ In the US maybe, not on earth you idiot.
\_ http://www.zpub.com/sf/history/willh.html
he hated Minorities and supported Hitler.
\_ yes, which is another reason the myth of the liberal press
is absurd. -tom
\_ I finally figured out why we let you stay here. For the
humor factor. Taken the right way you're actually a
really funny guy. Sort of like the court jester or the
class clown, you're always there with something wildly
inappropriate, off topic, ridiculous, or just plain rude.
I hope to see you around some more. The motd was making
too much sense without you for the last few months. |
| 2004/6/4 [Health/Women] UID:30617 Activity:high |
6/4 "If 50 percent of the people applying for the job of store
manager are women, we will work to make sure that 50 percent
of the people receiving those jobs are women," Scott said.
"My bonus next year could decline by as much as 15 percent if
I don't live up to my diversity goals."
http://csua.org/u/7lh
\_ Uh, what about other variables, like qualifications? The object
of discrimination lawsuits is to prove there exists a _direct
causal link_ between gender and hiring. -- ilyas
\_ You do know that quotas are illegal in any government-funded
institution? I also realize that Wal-Mart is private sector,
so the law requires something different, perhaps just as you've
described.
\_ I believe what I've described had to be proven in the
infamous Berkeley discrimination suit. There was an added
twist -- if you looked at overall statistics, men were
more likely to be admitted than women, but in each
specific department, the opposite was true. If that seems
odd to you, you are not alone. Statisticans call that
'the Simpson paradox.' -- ilyas
\_ So, do you know that quotas are illegal in any
government-funded institution? This was also a result
of the infamous Berkeley discrimination suit.
\_ It's good quotas are illegal, but there are effectively
quotas in most government jobs. Just look at a picture
of NASA folk working on the shuttle some time, and put
people in gender and race bins, and compare to
frequencies in the US population. -- ilyas
\_ A private-sector quota system! At Wal-Mart!
\_ The big Boss giveth, and the big Boss can taketh away.
\_ If 50% of the applicants are morons, half of the hires will be
morons!
\_ Wrong! At Wal-mart, ALL the hires will be morons,
regaurdless! |
| 2004/6/3-4 [Health/Women] UID:30579 Activity:very high |
6/3 I just read the Washingtonienne blog in its entirety. I know no
women as shallow, petty and money/gift-driven as Ms. Cutler. She
kind of fufils my worst nightmares about modern young women of a certain
kind and it sounds like she knows many others like her. Is this a Wash.
D.C. thing? -- ulysses
\_ Its because she works for a Republican.
\_ I don't know any women like her, but I know a whole bunch like
Wonkette (who I used to work with at Wired) -ausman
\_ ann cox. I read a hilarious editorial last week in the
ny post blaming her for all of society's evils. some
people have no sense of humor
\_ Who? |
| 2004/6/3 [Health/Women] UID:30568 Activity:nil |
6/3 inside scoop of Peterson: the defense is that someone else
kidnapped her while pregnant, later on to cover their
tracks, when the baby was born, they dumped the bodies
at the berkeley marina where the entire world knew
Peterson was.
\_ It's just plausible enough to register that reasonable doubt.
\_ It's also possible that Peterson hired those guys to kidnap her and
intentionally keep her alive for a while before killing her.
\_ The odds of getting away with a plot of any sort dwindle rapidly
as the number of accomplices increases. Cf. Ben Franklin:
"Three can keep a secret if two are dead."
\_ That's so whacky. He was a shit salesman not the killer from
some bizarre mystery novel. "The Shit Salesman did it In The
Kitchen with a Kitchen Knife". I win!
\_ Who really gives a fuck?
\_ Your fellow sodans, obviously. |
| 2004/6/1-2 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:30523 Activity:very high |
6/1 100 most naturally beautiful women of all time:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/31/1085855500521.html
\_ why "naturally"? Is there unnatural beauty?
\_ Liv Tyler #2? something is whack
\_ And Kate Moss at #13. sigh..
\_ And Alicia Silverstone on the list at all!?
\_ Of all the token Asians to include, Lucy Liu?!
\_ Well, she is one Asian that doesn't need photoshopping.
\_ Because that wouldn't help?
\_ Um, the list was about _naturally beautiful_ wome...oh wait.
Never mind. This is soda. None of you have ever actually
_seen_ a woman in the flesh.
\_ Not a naturally beautiful one, anyway.
\_ Lucy Liu looks like naturally beautiful man. -tom
\_ Aaron looks like naturally beautiful man. -tom
\_ So when was the last time you were with a beautiful
woman tom? Prostitutes don't count...
\_ The fact that you think prostitutes are natually
beautiful says a lot. -tom
\_ You should talk with the sodans who visit
.jp's fabulous "soapland".
\_ WHIFFFFFFF!!!
\_ I'd pay $50 to get you a prostitute, naturally
beautiful or not, just so you'd grow up and
mellow. Or at least just stfu for 5 minutes
other than cries of, "what are those bumps on
your chest?! is it contagious!? and why don't
you have a peepee?! aaacccckkkk!"
\_ thank you, NERFAMC.
\_ I always thought she looked like a snake
\_ this is the sad state of american media...
beauty:popular::lucy liu:william hung
- what a cute couple!!!!!!
\_ I hate these fucking titles. So fucking arrogant. Of all time? Give
me a fucking break. More like for the past 50 years and US only.
The world != Hollywood
\_ you did see that it was an Australian site, right?
\_ My god, you're right! The world _does_ = Hollywood!
\_ Dude, australians are nothing more than extremely stupid brits with
suntans.-lior |
| 2004/5/10-11 [Health/Women] UID:30145 Activity:nil |
5/10 Burned Alive
http://csua.org/u/78x |
| 2004/5/10 [Health/Women] UID:30128 Activity:kinda low |
5/9 psb, are you married yet?
\_ psb, do you prefer Pujabi women, Bengali women, southern Udupi
Palace eating women, or hot O'Farrell type blonde bombshell women?
-psb #2 fan
\_ what the hell kind of psb fan are you if you don't even
know he likes blondes with big hair, eh?
\_ He will, once he sells his PSB speakers. |
| 2004/4/25-26 [Health/Women] UID:13367 Activity:nil |
4/24 from the laddertheory WEEB location:
Women seem to especially like it if you are more devoted to your
bad music, biker gang, forearm tattoo or marijuana. These all
seem to work wonders. There are some interests you can show in
a woman that will help you to fuck her: a healthy interest in
destroying her self-esteem and in fucking her friends more
than her seem to work wonders. Note that the following topics
of disinterest have been field tested and shown conclusively
not to work: Unix, literature, poetry, international politics,
and sodomy.
\- i note in passing, there are some funny physics reference there
[hidden variables, dreams of a final theory (book by s. weinberg),
virtual friends etc] --psb
\_ Nice!
\_ Literature, international policitcs, and sodomy have all worked
for me. -aspo
\_we're talking about women.
\_ So am I, so am I. With men I've found all you need to do
is be able to breathe, and that is sometimes optional. -aspo
\_ Gays really have no taste in men.
\_ More to the point, men really have no taste.
\_poetry/philosophy have also worked for me. It only works with
the kind of chick (there are many) that are into peotry and/or
philosophy. However, only when drunk, which is the only time
anything has ever worked for me (with strangers anyway). -phuqm
\- i think some of you are perhaps slightly missing the
point of the "ladder dynamics" ... part of which is "many
lame strategies will work with the ButterChicken class".
\_ Being a jerk works with insecure and needy chicks.
Having class works with classy and intelligent women.
\_ Seconded. It's your problem if you want to deal
with women who like being treated like shit, or with
guys who do that. Neither tend to rate very highly
on most halfway-useful peoples' lists of folks who are
interesting and fun to be around. -John
\_ There is a diff. btw being crass and being a jerk.
One can be a very classy jerk. That site is not
meant to be taken all seriously, but there is a lot
of truth in it. Girls who place nice guys on top of
their list tend to be the most boring type.
\_ Yeah, who want kids and marriage 2 weeks in. |
| 2004/4/12 [Politics/Foreign/Canada, Health/Women] UID:13147 Activity:high |
4/12 Canada soon to slaughter 300,000 seals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3618901.stm
\_ I guess all the yeti baseball really got that Canuck blood going.
\_ I thought those were penguins
\_ If you can't wack the one you love, wack the one you're with.
\_ I wonder if I can get a job clubbing baby seals?
\_ Maybe I can go clubbing with baby seals.
\_ I guess all that yeti baseball really got that Canuck blood going.
\_ Wouldn't it suck if you were an endangered species and NOT cute? |
| 2004/4/6 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:13027 Activity:moderate |
4/6 Study says Americans getting shorter and shorter:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1185457,00.html
\_ The study lays part of the blame on junk food and says a high
protein diet causes great stature, but a lot of junk food IS high
in protien.
\_ the card board filler they put in McDs isn't protein.
\_ Junk food also has lots of bad carbs, which cancels out
the high protein benefits. |
| 2004/3/10-11 [Health/Women] UID:12606 Activity:kinda low |
3/10 Baby girl named Diot Coke... in 1379
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2628349
\_ Best name ever: Wilson Willard Will III
... okay, Rip Torn is right up there. --scotsman
\- one of my cousins had a classmate named "limca" ... which is
an indian lemon soft drink [made by KO] ... the weird things
was it was a pretty well-educated, "bhadhralok" family. --psb
\_ I know someone named Mike Olin.
\_ My HS principal was named Mike Hawkes.
\_ Go Vikings!
\_ http://www.tarleton.edu/~mhawke
\_ Hawkes, not Hawke
\_ I know, but that is better: Doctor my cock! get it??!?
\_ "Allow me to introduce you to Mike Hawke"
\_ Someone in one of my classes is named Mike.
\_ I met someone on the Internet named Barry McCockner!
\_ I once knew a guy named John!
\_ I once new a guy named "I'm a fucking idiot." Funny
thing, I think he had a soda account too. -John
\_ Oh, sorry, I didn't think you'd take it as a personal
insult especially since you're not the only John in
the world. Had your coffee yet?
\_ My name is Mike! -Mike
\_ My HS geometry teacher was Harry Dueck, legally changed
from Harry Dick.
\_ poor guy. what fucked up parents he had, truly.
\_ How has no one mentioned Dick Pole yet?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/poledi01.shtml -tom |
| 2004/3/1-2 [Health, Health/Women] UID:12474 Activity:nil |
3/1 "I did drug deal but no spying."
[Israeli handed over in prisoner exchange last month.]
http://csua.org/u/68c |
| 2004/1/19-20 [Health/Women] UID:11835 Activity:very high |
1/19 Is there something that works like a headphone but is made specifically
for pregnant women to adhere or fasten to their stomach to play music
to the unborn babies? Is there a term for such devices? I searched
"phone" in http://www.babycenter.com but didn't see anything. Thanks.
\_ You know, that really does absolutely nothing for the kid. Why don't
you just start preparing to read to the kid as an infant, instead of
making futile efforts now.
\_ I don't know. All that pregnancy material I read says this
helps the baby develop hearing. So I thought it's the right
thing to do. BTW I'm also reading story books to my wife's
stomach, but I can't read long without drying up my throat.
\_ Develop hearing? The rest of us manage to hear stuff every
day. Stop the insanity. Just have a kid. Go watch MP's
The Meaning of Life and pay very close attention to the
part on child birth in the West. |
| 2003/12/5-6 [Reference/Military, Health/Women] UID:11331 Activity:nil |
12/5 Random Facts About Finland Thread:
I heard that the Fins are actually Huns, unlike the other
Scandinavians who are Nordic. Is that true?
\_ IIRC, Finns don't consider themselves Scandinavian.
\_ Most Scandinavians don't consider Finns Scandinavians
either. -John
\_ According to a recent _Scientific American_, there is no
genetic basis for race. (I didn't read the article and
am somewhat skeptical (as i always am) but it is interesting
if true).
\- richard lewontin just gave a talk here on this.
you can google for him. --psb
\_ how come nobody posted the day/tim, i possibly
would have sat in. :(
\_ "/csua/bin/webster Scandinavia" says "2 Denmark, Norway, Sweden, &
sometimes also Iceland, the Faeroe Islands, & Finland"
\_ the finnish language is related to hungarian, as is estonian.
they are the only three extant members of the finno-ugric
language family i believe. make what conclusions you will.
\_ Don't forget Quenya. -- ilyas
\_ BTW, in Finnish last name goes first, just like in East Asian
languages. This is rare in European languages.
\- finnish is a central asian language.
\_ I heard 1/4 of Finland's GDP is from Nokia and its subsideries.
\_ From few Finnish Americans I know personally, I learned that despit
the graphical proximity, Fins and Swedes have a very different
culture (at least the language). While Fins in some way still
held some degree of animosity toward Swedes, they are forced to
learn Swedish as part of their regular curriculum in their public
education today. -kngharv
\_ Finland also has a section of the army that speaks primarily
sweedish. A finn i know joined the sweedish speaking finnish
army to practice his sweedish during his army service.
imagine if we had a spanish speaking army here in the US.
\_ Finland was part of Sweden for 600 years or so before it became
part of Russia. Now Swedish is one of the official languages in
Finland.
\_ Are Finnish women slim and beautiful just like Swedes and Norwegians?
Or are they more like fat american cows?
\_ they are thin. They also tend to dye their hair dark, unlike
the Swedes who dye blonde.
\_ Finns had the highest suicide rate in the world in 1997 (they've
since begun an aggressive anti-suicide campaign, so it's hard to
assess whether this ranking still holds true). They also have
one of the highest alcoholic rates in the world. What does this
tell you about Finnish women? Nothing, but I'm just saying....
\_ both of these are also true of alaska, canada, poland,
siberia and scandenavia. it's the cold and dark, but
mostly the dark.
\_ eh, in the summer it's the opposite of dark. it stays light
basically all night long. the drunks get drunk regardless.
\_ well, ok. the only one i know much about is alaska,
since i grew up there, and worked there in the summers
in college. the winter/alcoholism effect is worsened
by the number of seasonal industries like fishing
that can make you alot of money in the light months,
which you can save up to basically become a professional
drunk throughout the winter months. I've known people
who lived that way.
\_ Sigh. Huns are huns. People who call other people Huns are usually
idiots, except in your case. You're just stupid. |
| 2003/11/29-12/1 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:11263 Activity:nil |
11/28 Never leave your home again...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3241138.stm |
| 2003/11/28 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:29673 Activity:nil |
11/28 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3241138.stm Never leave your house again! |
| 2003/11/22 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:11192 Activity:nil |
11/22 Lots of American women bitch about American men dating
foreigners. You want to know why? Because YOU SUCK. You are a
pain in the ass. Period. Foreign women are easy to deal
with. Having dated Europeans and Latina's, they are infinitely
easier to deal with than American women. They just accept you
for being a man. I hear lots of women say foreign women are
pushovers - its the furthest thing from the
truth. Particularly the Italians and the Latina's - they will
fight with you and are very vocal. They just don't have all
\_ i don't think that's the right choice of word. and btw,
that guy is a moron. do you want to marry an uneducated,
boring housewife? go right ahead, save the decent ones
for the rest of us.
this bullshit that you carry around with you.
http://www.nomarriage.com/fd.html
\_ hi, bitter, lonely geek mysogynist.
\_ In his tally of the 99.9% of American women who are out of the
running for marriage, he includes women who have been raped. |
| 2003/11/19-20 [Health/Women] UID:11147 Activity:very high |
11/19 A colleague just told me about his wife's home birth experience.
Gave birth at home into a water tub. No doctors present, only one
midwife. The umbilical cord was wrapped around the baby's neck
twice. But the mid-wife safely delivered the baby. If this was a
regular hospital doctors would be jumping in there ready to cut open
his wife for a C-section just so that they can get their $15K bonus
(insurance pays more for C-section, they have a financial incentive
to do so). Upper middle class white women with insurance get cut open
more than uninsured minority women. Think about that. -old fashioned
\_ The US has one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world.
I assure you, that has nothing to do with midwifery or home
birthing techniques. It's really nice when people can dredge up
exceptions where everything went well -- but the price of failure
\_ You mean upper middle class white women with insurance are getting
goes way WAAY up when you don't have immediate access to modern
healthcare facilities. Personally, given a choice between
'tradition' and 'survival of my children' there's absolutely NO
\_ Of course, she might have failed and the baby could have died. Also,
which baby was this? 1st? 2nd? 7th?
CONTEST. And why for fuck's sake do you feel this rediculous need
to get validation from motd? People here believe in, you know,
TECHNOLOGY -- so it's kind of a hard sell if you're truly not
trolling.
\_ actually, the US has a fairly high infant mortality rate:
US: 6.75/1000
UK: 5.28/1000
Canada: 4.88/1000
France: 4.37/1000
Germany: 4.23/1000
Japan: 3.3/1000
That's better than it was 20 years ago, but it's still probably
the highest among any of the industrialized nations. However,
that speaks to the lack of health care, more than the
overapplication of it. -tom
\_ I love when people post numbers comparing mostly homogenous
countries to completely diverse countries like the US. You
can make statistics say anything.
\_ 37% of all statistics are made up.
\_ WTF?! Even my country banana republic Singapore has lower
infant mortality rate than US.
Singapore 3.57/1000
\_ Cuba: 6.0/1000
\_ Eh, I think Cuba is much closer to 7.5 or so.
\_ Beijing and Shanghai 5.05/1000
\_ How do you know this has anything to to with health care?
\_ What else would it have to do with? Gel cups? -tom
\_ Population density, genetic homogeneity, climate, crime
rate, drug rate, education, etc.
\_ Be serious--the only common factor among the
other industrialized nations of the world is
that they all have better health care than the
US. Occam's Razor. -tom
\_ They also have smaller populations. You're sure
you've listed the *only* thing they have in
common?
\_ yea, and another thing they have in common
is that they are all not America.
\_ Why did you write that sentence about "lowest in the world"
when obviously it's false?
\_ 1) Because it's not, 2) Because your reading comprehension
sucks. Try again when you've grown up, grasshopper.
\_ gee, you don't think it might just be more dangerous to deliver
a baby with the umbilical cord wrapped around its neck? How
much is your baby worth to you? -tom
\_ Hey look! The baby troll is back!
\_ You mean upper middle class black women with insurance are getting
better care?! That said, a friend delivered with a midwife (not
at home, though) and liked it a lot. Her first baby was born at
a hospital. Any future ones will be via midwife. --dim
\_ Of course, she might have failed and the baby could have died.
Also, which baby was this? 1st? 2nd? 7th?
\_ you're choosing a dumb midwife over 200 years worth of medical
experience? What if the baby needs surgery? What if the baby has
an infection and anti-biotics are needed? What if the midwife
didn't sanitize herself properly? What if something goes wrong,
is that insured?
\_ midwivery has been going on for much longer than 200 years.
\_ so has accupuncture, so what? my *vet* has a poster on the
wall showing accupuncture points for dog and cats.
\_ Most midwives are medically trained and equipped.
\_ yeah? so is my vet.
\_ Boy, I love trolling you. Just add a lah at the
end of a troll and I get an extra troll for free.
\_ The correct spelling is "acupuncture". Learn to spell
first lah.
\_ LAH! You so right spelling LAH! Showed him LAH! HAH!
\_ Go Baby Troll! You are the most effective troll the motd has yet
seen. Go Go Go! --baby troll #1 fan
\_ really? this is the first time ive seen babytroll.
\_ babytroll is the man! First there were all the threads about
"the condom broke" or "what does my gf missing a pregnancy
test mean." Then there was the home birth thread, and now
the followup. I especially like the buildup from the birth
control to the birth techniques. Slow, subtle, yet powerful.
Babytroll rules! --baby troll #1 fan.
\_ I think cloth diapers are better than disposable diapers
......
\_ GARRIAGE! |
| 2003/11/15-16 [Health/Women] UID:11086 Activity:nil |
11/15 Chewable "Pill" approved by the FDA:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/2003/ANS01260.html
\_ cool, now we can feed the pill to 12 year olds like bubble gum so
you guys don't have to worry about your children having to wait
6 years before your gf can drive them around. |
| 2003/11/12 [Health/Women] UID:11042 Activity:nil |
11/11 It is estimated that 25% of the pregnancies end up as miscarriage
within the first week of conception, extending the period to 4-6
weeks. So wouldn't it be possible that rather than having abnormal
period, she simply had a miscarriage?
\_ Are you the rhythm/withdrawal guy?
\_ Dude, relax. Don't be panicking. First of all, if your gf doesn't
normally have large variances in her cycle, she should schedule
an appointment with her ob/gyn. Second of all, it just doesn't
make any sense to try and self-diagnose; esp. when a huge number of
things can cause these sorts of irregularities. Get her to see a
doctor, then go from there. There's no use getting worked up or
freaked out until then. Third and last, MOTD is SO not the right
place to seek out advice for this -- there are better, more informed
sources of information available; you just have calm down and look.
Good luck, guy.
\_ PAPPA! DADDY! You need to schedule an appt. with BDG rigth away!
\_ At this stage, it's a little too late for BDG. BDG can help
if you're thinking about getting into a relationship.
\_ What is BDG? B.. D... Gynecologyst?
\_ bitter divorced gynocologyst/guy. |
| 2003/11/6 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Health/Women] UID:29619 Activity:nil |
11/6 Fox asks health care, education, protection for Mexican migrants
The president of Mexico called Wednesday for improved
treatment of Mexicans who enter the United States, including
better health care and education and respect for the human
rights of migrants...
"We must work together so that they can have health insurance,"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016347/posts |
| 2003/10/10-11 [Health/Women] UID:10581 Activity:nil |
10/10 So I've been using the calendar method as my only method of birth
control and have been ejaculating inside my gf's vagina and I've
done this for about 6 month. Just curious, what is the rate of
failure of using this method?
\_ > 40%
\_ Good luck, Pops
\_ pick out some names you like
\_ Son, realdolls don't get pregnant.
\_ does it feel good? better than condom?
\_ oh fuck yeah. -!op
\_ my wife and I have done this for 5 years.
\_ at least one of you is probably infertile
\_ We've both been checked. good sperm. good eggs. good timing.
\_ bad brains.
\_ 100% eventually.
\_ My wife and I used this method, and used condoms during the unsafe
days. She still got pregnant after two years.
\_ You can tell your kid later he came from 7-day old sperm.
\_ Well, we pressed the 'A' key.
\_ anal sex is your answer...
\_ No. It doesn't feel as good cuz it's too tight. And you risk
semen dripping to the vagina. --- !op
\_ Then you're doing it wrong -- just use more lube, slow down,
and give the muscles back there a chance to relax before
going to town. The semen thing is another problem entirely...
\_ Face up and no drip.
\_ Old joke: there's a name we use for people who use the rhythm
method of birth control. We call them 'parents'. You're going to
be a parent if you don't stop this *now*. Are you ready to father
a child and raise them for 18 years? If you're still asking the
motd for basic contraceptive info, I'd guess not. I'm probably
about 15 years older than you and I still don't feel ready to have
kids.
semen flowing to the vagina. --- !op |
| 2003/9/29-30 [Health/Women, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10375 Activity:nil |
9/29 birth control methods include failure percentages in a year, but of
the successful percentages, how many of them are infertile? In
another word do companies take in account of couples who can't
conceive, and take them out of the statistics?
\_ Think about this for a minute.
\_ if you're infertile, why would you use birth control? and even if
you did (because you didn't know), the product would still 'work'
for you. Is this supposed to be a troll or just dumb? It seems
more bizarre than troll.
\_ This is actually a very important question. And yes, studies
take this into account (or they should) when rating
birth control products. Depending on how they conduct the
study and who does it, the assumption is that couples are
fertile and in their prime. Studies like this usually prescreen
and preselect couples, and they typically have a control group.
Since these studies are widely used in academia and are typically
published in JAMA they should be relatively accurate. However,
even the best studies have been proven wrong in the past. JAMA
and the AMA as well as the FDA are hardly failsafe in their
scrutiny.
\_ Heh. You should hear what an epidemologist I heard today
had to say about JAMA. Meanwhile consider the statement
'If it's published in X, it should be Y,' for various values
of X and Y. For instance X = internet, Y = true.
\- yeah my friends in stat/biostat also roll their eyes
when trying to do sophisticated statistics with doctors
who think they know everything. --psb
\_ infertile != sterile. infertile means the gametes are there
but they have a tough time meeting or going forward in
development after they do meet.
\_ sort of like the bar scene? |
| 2003/9/18 [Health/Women] UID:10244 Activity:high |
9/18 Somebody settle an argument between my wife and I. She says that
a woman's ovaries contain *ALL* the eggs that she'll ever have. The
menstrual cycle simply releases one egg every month. I remember in
high school bio that ovaries work like testicles. Sperm cells die
or are ejaculated and new ones are produced every day. Who is right?
Are eggs produced once a month just like sperm cells are produced
every day or are they simply released every month? This came up
because women in their 20s produce healthier babies than women in
their 30s. [yes, I've searched the web and can't find anything
that specific]. Thanks.
\_ She is correct. The ovaries release one egg per month.
\_ I pity your wife. How did she get stuck with such a moron?
\_ Pity.
\_ heh, well some women like their men dumb. btw, not only do
women not produce more eggs, they have a fairly limited
supply, like several hundred. good for normal use, but not for
lots of egg donation.
\_ Nyet! They've got gazillions. Some women like their men both
dumb *and* arrogant.
\_ MYSTERY SOLVED BRO:
During fetal life, there are about 6 million to
7 million eggs. From this time, no new eggs are produced.
The vast majority of the eggs within the ovaries
steadily die, until they are depleted at menopause.
At birth, there are approximately 1 million eggs; and by
the time of puberty, only about 300,000 remain. Of these,
300 to 400 will be ovulated during a woman's reproductive
lifetime. The eggs continue to degenerate during pregnancy,
with the use of birth control pills, and in the presence
or absence of regular menstrual cycles. -maxmcc
\_ How do birth control pills cause eggs to degenerate
more than not?
\_ The sentence structures out to "no matter what, the eggs
degenerate."
\_ That's right. When a woman is born, she's got all the eggs
she's ever gonna have.
\_ you learned this in CS classes? - a dumb man |
| 2003/8/28 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:29502 Activity:insanely high |
8/27 Silly question. How many of you are about 5'9"? I'm guessing at least
a few since this is about the average height for white adult
males. Now the real question: what size pants do you wear? I find
that 31x28 or maybe 31x29 fit me just about right, but these are
fairly uncommon sizes. (Specifically, I mean the inseam length,
the second number.) So do you all wear pants that are too long, or
do you have the same trouble I do in finding pants that fit well?
\_ Most people in America are fat, they make 'em for them.
\_ what does being fat have to do with height?
\_ Buy trousers longer than you need them, go by Ernesto's tailoring,
5th floor (left from the elevators, then right, it's on the left
hand side) in the Flood building (863 Market) in SF. He does
a fantastic job and works cheap. You can then let them out more
easily if they shrink later on. -John
\_ i'm about 5'9" and wear 30x32, and they fit well
\_ 5'10" and just focusing on inseam, I try to get 30s, but
often have to buy longer. They just bunch up a little and actually
look cool. They don't drag along the floor.
\_ 5'11". 31x32 or x34 depending on the brand.
\_ 5'9" and I wean 30x36. I'm a sysadm.
\_ it's time to bulk up at the gym, buddy
\_ i'm 5'8 and wear 31x31
\_ 5'8" and wear 32x32, but I can fit down to 30x30 (I like 'em
baggier and longer)
\_ 5'8" and I find that a 30 inseam is perfect for me, and quite
easy to get.
\_ 5'9", size 4 or 6 tall (I'm all legs) -chialea
\_ they say that women's numbering system is changing so that
size 8 will become size 6, size 6 will become size 4, etc.
This is done presumably so that women will feel skinner and
will be happier to buy a lower sized dress than they really
are. Such marketing strategy works pretty well.
\_ general question women's numbering system. Is there a reason
why women's clothes have such weird numbers? With men, the
numbers actually mean something. It's the length of the legs
or the width of your waist, etc. The number system on women
doesn't mean anything. What exactly is a size 4 dress or a
size 6 pants? Anybody know the history of this?
\_ In general, it's waist measurement in inches - 20. This
is for american sizes. I haven't read up on the history
of this, but it probably goes back to the end of corset
culture. Waist size has always been a status symbol, whether
large (fertility/matriarchal cultures) or small (our current
psychotic obsession with emaciation). --scotsman
\_ The sizes are arbitrary so fat women can say they're only a
smaller.
size 12 when size 12 is *huge* and 16 is off scale. Most
women are 12+ these days. Sell to your market.
\_ Can you actually go below size 0? I know one or two who
are, and I can imagine skinnier and more anorexic girls
\_ I think they have "petites" so a petite-size-0 is even
smaller. It's not just anorexics that wear that size,
shorter women sometimes need that size, else their
clothes are too long. My ex-gf was size 2 or more but
since she was short she often wore size 0. Except
these shirts were a bit tight on her big boobs.
\_ I think dresses smaller than size 0 should be sized
much as paintbrushes, e.g. 00, 000, 10/0. -geordan
\_ My mom is 5'1" and 92lbs. She wears 0. I asked once
about that and she said nothing below a 0.
\_ i'm 5'9" and wear 31x30, getting fat. My shoe size is never
available when the shoe is on sale.
\_ ARE YOU A SYSADM?
\_ 7'0" and wear 38x38. posted just cuz. |
| 2003/7/26 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:29147 Activity:very high |
7/25 Why do 5 feet women want 6 foot men? I don't get it.
\_ There's this asian-caucasian couple I see a lot at the gym. She's
like 4'10" and he's 5'11"-ish. They're always practicing their
ballroom dancing in the middle of the machines area. Bizarre sight
on quite a few levels.
\_ Yellow fever?
\_ Creepy. Sounds like my cousin and her husband.
\_ The women want their babies to be tall.
\_ The women wants to feel their long dick.
\_ I am a short guy with a big dick. How can I communicate this
to women that I want to have sex with without seeming crude?
\_ stop wearing pants?
\_ All women want taller men. It's a Darwin thing and it makes
a lot of sense.
\_ to the extreme of a foot difference?
\_ It has nothing to do with her height. It has to do with his.
You think ugly guys have a preference for ugly women? No,
they all prefer attractive women no matter what they look like
themselves. No different for women.
\_ what, you don't think these guys are pedophiles and/or
insecure so they want a small unintimidating girlfriend?
\_ not at all. short != looks 8 y/old. short != timid.
\_ Plenty of women prefer shorter guys. Most prefer tall guys,
this is true, but don't drag Darwin into this. Many societal
standards of beauty have nothing to do with survival.
\_ Plenty? Maybe you're hanging out with the 6'6" amazons or
something but "willing to date" is not the same as "prefer".
Name a society where being short is a positive beauty trait
for a man. I'm sorry some of the short guys here don't get
laid and think women are evil for it but that's just the way
things are.
\_ being bitter about it, yeah real attractive
\_ Jews - David shorty kicks Goliath arse.
Jacob shorty toys with his brother Esau.
Big strong tall Samson stupidly falling
for Delilah's trap.
Compare the bible versus classical greek literature.
The bible never mentions tall as a positive
description, whereas greek literature is full of
such references, not only in descriptions of men
but also of women. Instead the bible likes to
talk about the weak becoming strong, the foolish
becoming wise, and shorty Zacchaeus receiving
Jesus.
\_ The bible is a morality play, not a cultural reference
guide. Go ask some real Jews if being short is a plus
or a minus. They'll give you the same answer as
everyone else. Tall is good. Short is bad. Stop
trying to make Jews into some sort of freaks. It's bad
enough with the haters and ignorance already. -Jew
\_ You are black sheep Jew. Be a good Jew.
\_ Just admit it. The bible is the core of Jewish
culture. You can't escape it. And there is nothing
wrong in being different, or "freaks", if you prefer.
\_ In personals ads the number one request - even more common
than a fat checkbook, a full head of hair, sexual prowess,
or a great personality - is that the guy must be taller
than the woman, and preferably 6' or over. It's rare to find
women that like shorter guys.
\_ That's only because it's not PC to ask for the other
things you mentioned.
\_ Ducking? Nah, it's just not as big a deal as
you make it out to be.
\_ That never stopped anyone from asking for it. Also,
you're ducking (poorly I might add). They never request
short. No woman wants a short guy.
\_ It's just not as big a deal as you make it out to be. |
| 2003/7/2-3 [Health/Women] UID:28907 Activity:high |
7/2 Let's list the countries where caucasian women are on average still
fit and healthy. Either because american junk food hasn't reached
there or where they choose not to eat that crap.
\_ Estonia
\_ let's see YOUR sixpack, pathetic geek!
\_ You don't need 6pack abs to be fit and healthy. Simply *not*
being 180+ lbs at 5'4 would do it for most women.
\_ BIG is BEAUTIFUL.
\_ http://www.fatso.com
\_ Russia.
\_ Russian women are both beautiful and skinny. Why skinny?
They smoke like chimneys. I can't think that makes them
healthy. But they are hot. In my European travels, though,
I think the country with the most beautiful women was Poland.
And the most beautiful girl I saw was in Prague.
\_ eastern european women often have messed up teeth
\_ that doesn't stop asiaphiles
\_ Check out Yulia Nova, all natural:
http://www.putalocura.com/2002/articulos/yulia/yulia
http://app.tokyotopless.com/shop/nonjp.cgi/2301000002.html
\_ All the Dutch women I saw were in pretty good shape. I think
it is because everyone bicycles everywhere.
\_ Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Germany.
\_ Germany? You like the fatties, eh? It's ok, lots of guys have
a fatty fetish.
\_ Any girl in this country who looks like she works at a library.
Librarians! Mmmmmm, yum!
\_ http://www.weight-loss-i.com/obesity.htm
According to this the Italians are the thinnest, the Russians
the fattest.
\_ Old Olga skews the Russian curve. if they are <24, they are
skinny twigs. Over 40, and they are "Mother Russia" fatsos. |
| 2003/6/17 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:28741 Activity:very high |
6/16 Socialized medicine: The fix is in
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33110
Younger workers will be paying for this.
\_ If people exercised and ate healthier food, we wouldn't
have such extreme health care costs.
\_ No. You couldn't be more wrong. Costs spiral due to insurance,
lawsuits, and endless medical tests to avoid lawsuits. If we
were all as fit and healthy as you costs wouldn't be any lower.
\_ I admit, it all sounds reasonable, until you remember that you're
reading WorldNetDaily, a publication that thinks that Hitler was
a Leftie, and that McCarthy was soft on those commies. Grain of
salt with that diatribe?
\_ What publications are we allowed to read? What is on the PC
list this week? |
| 2003/5/22 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:28527 Activity:nil |
5/21 Man question: what does flushing the urinal while peeing accomplish?
It seems like everybody at my company does, even the young guys
\_ Why flush a urinal at all, except sporadically? It's got a drain
on the bottom anyway, so it's not like the stuff's sitting around.
\_ unflushed unrinals lead to contaminated water being splashed
on your pecker.
\_ Sure it is. You can smell it. Which is part of the reason to
flush afterwards.
\_ Never heard of or seen such a thing. How could you flush a stand
up urinal while still peeing anyway? You don't you touch the thing
with your bare hand, do you? This is what God invented shoes for.
\_ Mine are approximately shoulder level, which inspires careful
scrubbing afterward.
\_ flushing first insures that any splash-back is just your own piss
or water--as opposed to your piss comingled w/ the piss of others.
Personally, I agree w/ the guy who never touches the handle with
his hand... and additionally I only piss in the stalls to further
mitigate the splash-back issue
\_ You probably piss on the seat too. Wanker.
\_ ...and i piss on your keyboard at night when you're not there
making it all pointless.
\_ Your kitchen is probably more contaminated. Germs don't do well
on stainless steel. As long as you wash your hands after
flushing, you don't have to worry about it. Are you one of those
nuts that dries his hands and then uses the paper towel to open
the door (leaving the towel behind)? It's freaks like you that
make the biggest messes.
\_ I do this all the time, but throw the towel in the trash can.
After you see the n-th guy walk out from a stinky stall and
head straight back to work, you'll pick up the habit too.
\_ I do this all the time too, but only after I notice
my manager (male) walk out from the stinky TOILET
back to work w/o washing his hands.
\_ just to mention, pee is sterile unless you have a UTI or kidney
infection. afraid of a little amonia? (I know it SEEMS gross).
\_ The way I avoid splash-back is to aim at the side of the urinal,
so that 1) my piss hits the surface at an angle rather than
perpendicularly, hence reducing splash, and 2) any splash will be
towards the urinal instead of me. See the illustration below.
urinal urinal
_____ _____
| | | |
| | | |
\ |
\ |
me me
No splash. Splash.
It works well on most urinals. It only doesn't work on those
urinals that are very wide and have small side walls. In that
case I control my bladder to not piss with full force.
\_ Here's another alternative:
----
|
urinal | - - - - ---- Sodan
| \
---- "
\
\_ Congratulations. You win the award for most bored sodan.
\_ On a related note. Guys fart while urinating. It must be
some muscle relaxation thing. I told my wife about this and she
seems rather disgusted. Apparently she never farts while urinating.
Is this true of women in general?
\_ It doesn't enter into her consciousness, but she does it.
We all do. Is she a goer? Does she go?
\_ "goer"??? If you're asking if she farts out loud in my
presense, yes she does.
\_ Say no more.
\_ Seconded. Please say no more.
\_ A wink's as good as a nod to a blind bat,
know what I mean, know what I mean?
\_ Release of bladder pressure and relaxing the muscles in the
region has a lot to do with it.
\_ Some people have a tough time letting go, and the sound of
the running water helps them get started.
\- hello, you may wish to see:
http://maddog.weblogs.com/stories/storyReader$68
--psb |
| 2003/5/17-18 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:28466 Activity:moderate |
5/18 My pet theory is that the average caucasian women are fatter than
the average east asian men. What do you guys think?
\_ Provided this ain't a troll, you talking about overall weight, or
body fat percentage? If the latter, the average woman of any
ethnicity will be fatter than that of any man. If the former,
sorry, I don't know many Asian men in the 100-130lbs range, and I'm
Asian. [formatd]
\_ average white women >>> 130 pounds. Just look at Jenni
Craig commercials. And Lila. Etc etc.
\_ is that you kchang? have you come back from the dead?
--kchang #1 fan
\_ that's me. Alah Ahkbar! Alalalalalalalah! |
| 2003/5/16-17 [Health/Women] UID:28460 Activity:high |
5/16 How common is it for women to have mustaches? I'm not talking about
big, bushy Tom Selleck ones. Just normal (for a female) not very
noticeable ones that are almost like tiny baby hairs.
\_ Common enough for the hairier peoples. Just get it waxed once
or twice a month.
\_ it's very common. most women, if they don't shave, do develop
tom selleck moustaches. it's one of these things chicks just don't
tell you.
\_ Hairier peoples? Who are these 'harrier peoples'? And who
gets to say they're hairy?
\_ I'd say it's really common, like 1/3. Women shouldn't worry
overmuch about it unless it's relaly noticeable. The example
I have in mind looks plenty feminine.
\_ more than 1/3, just most blonds you can't tell unless you
are like 3 inches from their mouth and by then it doesn't
really matter.
\_ You mean you don't think, "My God, her mustache is thicker
than mine?!" just before your lips lock? You should.
\_ for caucasian or middle eastern women, it's very common. my
pet theory is that caucasian women are as hairy as east asian men. |
| 2003/5/9-10 [Recreation/Activities, Health/Women] UID:28393 Activity:high |
5/9 http://csua.org/u/e86 (cnn.com) "He broke two bones in his [own] wrist and then used the dull blade of his multi-tool pocket knife to saw through his flesh." \_ this is cobwebs-on-it old \_ 11am EDT this morning too old for you? that's when the article was posted... and the incident happened Thursday May 1. dude, you're so on the bleeding edge. \_ kinda like half of this guy's arm \_ solo hiking/climbing is crazy. \_ yeah. And ultimately he didn't have to amputate since he was found by rescuers a few hours later. \_ He hiked a few miles and was found by a random couple hiking the trail. Yet another registrant for the motd reading comprehension course. \_ ok, if by "random couple" you mean search helicopter. \_ Don't forget he rapelled (sp?) 50ft or so down the cliff before he hiked 6 miles. \_ Wrong, he never would have been spotted. He amputated and then hiked to someplace where people were more likely to find him. \_ ... which is, in and of itself, absolutely bloody amazing. How the hell did he remain conscious? \_ bloody is right. \_ tourniquet to slow bleeding and avoid hypovolemic shock. a tourniquet is almost always a last resort method of controlling blood loss, but amputation counts as last resort. --Jon |
| 2003/5/1 [Health, Health/Women] UID:28284 Activity:high |
4/30 Do you call your general practitioner or a gynocologist for
contraceptives (Orthotricyclene or Ortha-Evra)?
\_ If you think you are likely to reproduce, tell your potential mate
about the latest exciting flame war on the motd, and you will be
safe.
\_ ha, that's a good one. !sarcastic
\_ i go to 7-11
\_ OB/GYN providers can prescribe them
\_ as can general practitioners
\_ http://www.e-scripts-md.com
... among other websites
\_ Go to a Planned Parenthood.
\_ For all motd users the right answer is to self sterilize.
\_ Any physician can write you a prescription for them. However,
I'd recommend a GYN doctor for contraceptives, especially if
this is going to be your first time taking contraceptives. The
doctor should do a pelvic exam to rule out any abnormalities before
prescribing you contraceptives. Plus -- as there are a variety of
birth control pills out there, he/she will have the most expertise
in prescribing the best one for your body. If you want to get
even more specific, try out a reproductive endocrinologist (they
specialize in female hormones and are specialized OBGYNs) who
will measure your hormone levels and get a more accurate
assessment. --chris
\_ this is good advice, especially for a first-timer. Hormones can
make even the most level person experience mood swings and other
weird physical effects, so you definitely want someone who knows
how to adjust a prescription if you or your girlfriend doesn't
handle the regular kind well. |
| 2003/4/30 [Health/Women] UID:28275 Activity:nil |
4/30 Boy gets pregnant:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2987963.stm
\_ Big deal. I've been pregnant before.
\_ that's murder |
| 2003/4/18 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Women] UID:28161 Activity:very high |
4/17 Are Ortha-Evra and Ortha-tricyclene paid by insurance?
\_ Go get the free condoms. You're cheating on each other and need
disease protection as much as you need the pill.
\_ Clearly someone who's not gotten any with and without.
\_ Not so clear. Happily married, thanks! One day you might
know the touch of a woman.
\_ Yermom is better than your wife.
\_ that's not saying much
\_ Happily married is an oxymoron. When you come home
one day and the house is cleaned out (including the
ice cube trays in the freeze and the extra pollen
filters for the upstairs heater) you will know that
no marriage is happy and no woman can be trusted.
Then your education will start. It will be the most
expensive, humiliating and degrading lesson you will
ever learn. Provided you survive...
\_ you are not the real bdg
\_ nah, I got over the lousy taste in women thing in
college. It took time and a lot of fucking to figure
out the score but I'm doing just fine thanks.
\_ Condoms are FAR less effective at birth control. The proper
Paranoid woman uses both.
\_ The properly paranoid man uses condoms because he can't
trust her to be on the pill and also can't trust that she
isn't diseased or trying hard to get diseased somewhere
else. Always use condoms. That way you don't need to trust
each other. Now go out there and ignore me and get herpes
and be parents! GO BEAR!
\_ I know a woman who wants kids, whether she's married or not.
I'm downright SCARED of sleeping with her.
\_ You should be. Why are you even thinking about it?
\_ the answer to that should be self-evident. -tom
\_ he wants to be a daddy? that's the only reason
to fuck a chick who wants kids no matter what.
\_ Of course, nothing beats abstinence, the preferred and
endorsed method of the CSUA.
\_ Depends on your insurance policy. Why don't you call the
800 number on the back of your card and ask? Or look up
the website? I've found most health insurances cover bcp, but
there is no single blanket policy. --chris
\_ I think we need to rename it, this is not insurance. It's
health coverage or a health plan or something. Insurance
wouldn't cover this kind of stuff.
\_ Yeah now if it paid out only when you actually had the
bad luck to impregnate, now THAT would be insurance.
\_ I've actually heard of a health insurance plan that
covers costs of childbirth *and* abortions, but not
birth control. Stupidity knows no bounds.
\_ You mean cover the cost of a kid from 0-18? |
| 2003/4/13-14 [Health, Health/Women] UID:28108 Activity:very high |
4/13 recommendations for a good website about starting out with weight
training for a wuss?
\_ What are your goals? It might help if you clarify that in your
mind before you start googling. Do you want to train for strength,
endurance, tone, bulk, some combination or none of the above,
etc. -mice
\_ my goal is to lose fat, not to muscle up or get definition. i
would be much more comfortable with exercises i can do at home
with smaller weights etc rather than going to the gym or buying
experienced friend to help you out. It's WAY too easy really
heavy duty equipment. I've heard vague things about exercises
where you use your own body weight for resistance, etc. Does
this work? any website recommendations? thanks. -op
\_ every since i left school, my sedentary lifestyle has made me
chubby. my goal is to lose fat, not to muscle up or get
definition for the ladies. i would be much more comfortable
\_ Run, do other cardio. Lifting weights is not going to
accomplish what you seek. It will improve tone as yu
you lose the weight. run 3.5 miles 4x a week, easy loss.
with exercises i can do at home with smaller weights etc rather
than going to the gym or buying heavy duty equipment. I've
heard vague things about exercises where you use your own body
weight for resistance, etc. Does this work? any website
recommendations? thanks. -op
\_ honestly, I think the smartest thing you can do if you're
really serious is to either hire a decent trainer until you
know your way around the machines, or get a knowledgeable,
experienced friend to help you out. It's WAY too easy to really
injure yourself when you're first starting out. I didn't take
this advice when I was first starting, and can still feel it
on bad days...and I've been lifting for several years now. -mice
\_ girls. I just want to train for girls.
\_ abs. it's all about abs.
\_ alright, so what to do for abs?
\_ one trainer I had before once told me, everyone has
decent abs, it's just getting rid of the fat hiding it.
\_ Vaguely true. Get your bodyfat content down and
you'll see good results more quickly. At the same
time, do more toning. Find a good pilates class.
\_ There's girls you fuck and there's girls you take home to mom.
The girls you take home to mom don't care what your abs look
like. The girls you fuck are easier to nail when drunk and
if you find them at parties, they're pre-drunk so you don't
even have to buy them a drink. A few bucks for a cover charge
and you'll get all the pussy you need without spending a lot
of time, energy and maybe money on altering yourself. Not to
be insulting but I'm guessing you're first or second year?
Ever notice how plenty of ugly skinny greasy smelly guys on
campus are getting laid? They're not going to the gym, son.
\_ You have a childish concept of women. When you realize
that these are not disjoint sets, you will be closer to
being a man. --aaron
\_ ...I weep for the future of this country.
\_ Yeah, it'd be better if having toned abs got you laid.
Makes more sense.
\_ Chicks dig sensitive guys with toned abs.
\_ No. Chicks dig abusive guys with no future.
\_ Work on your abs instead your whining.
\_ ugly, skinny, greasy, smelly? you're saying more guys
in Soda get laid than in Haas?
\_ Depends on which shower you goto at Haas. |
| 2003/2/25 [Health/Women] UID:27519 Activity:nil |
2/25 jesus and the fda
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,361521,00.html |
| 2003/2/15 [Health/Women] UID:27425 Activity:kinda low |
2/14 http://www.yourbigfun.com/referredirect.asp?page_id=666&d=02-14-03 \_ boy how amazing. \_ damnit, I sat through the whole thing expecting some scary, screaming face to appear suddenly. I'm very disappointed. \_ You mean I wasted 30 seconds of my life on that!! I want my life back! |
| 2003/2/11 [Health/Women] UID:27370 Activity:moderate |
2/11 People seen this before?
Asian Women Driving School:
http://homepage.mac.com/gillian_tan/iMovieTheater33.html
\_ wow, that's offensive in so many ways
\_ yeah, but is it offensive considering it was produced by an
Asian woman?
\_ No, that just makes it funny.
\_ Whenever I see stupid driving behavior I assume its a woman.
\_ Lucky you. Whenever I see stupid driving behavior I assume
it's some idiot drunk off his ass. And 'round here, I'm likely
right.... PeterM, Abuquerque, NM
\_ what are you doing in NM?
\_ Hah! Like there are ANY JOBS IN CA! I had to flee the
state.
\_ I assume it's someone who should take their menorah back to
moscow.
\_ Whenever I see stupid posting, I assume it's a motd troll.
\_ I assume it's someone from Paris.
\_ Whenever I see someone doing something completely moronic and
dangerous I assume that it is an SUV driver talking on a cell
phone. Guess what? I am almost always right!
\_ You left out the fact that they are usually drinking
a starbucks latte.
\_ Hey, that girl is pretty hot actually. --aaron |
| 2003/1/5-6 [Health/Women] UID:26998 Activity:high |
1/5 Besides Sephora what are some of the stores that let you try out
perfumes/colognes more easily?
\_ the perfume counters in any department store will give you
free samples.
\_ You can get a free sample if you slap a hooker across the face
hard enough for the perfume to rub off on your hand.
\_ Let you? After *decades* of complaints they finally mostly stopped
randomly spraying people with the shit. *Any* place that sells
perfume will allow you to try it out. It costs them 5 cents a
gallon and costs you 50 bucks an ounce. Why should they care?
\_ I've never been all that interested in scent on a woman other
than her own natural scent. Motd poll:
I like my women clean but unperfumed: ..
I like my women clean and perfumed:
I like my women dirty and unperfumed:
I like my women dirty and perfumed:
Men stink no matter what: |
| 2002/10/18 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:26252 Activity:high |
10/17 Whats wrong with you guys. ALL women turn into ugly prunes by 35.
It's not just Asian women. If anything blond women age faster.
\_ Black women don't get wrinkles until much later.
\_ No. There are lots of hot women of other races over 35. There are
no asian women over 35 who aren't stomach turners. With non-asians
the rate drops but never hits zero. Asians: 35+ = zero hotties.
\_ troll. I know plenty of asian women over 35 who are
still cute. Plenty of asian MILFs out there.
\_ Not a troll and not my fault if you have really low
standards. MILF, indeed. Unlikely. Maybe you know 1 if
you're lucky or blind.
\_ Maybe he has a fetish for shrivelled prunes.
\_ What's MILF? Thx.
\_ Multiple Independently-targeted Linear Firearm
\_ Mother I'd Like to Fuck. Basically one of those 35+ y/old
moms of your friend(s) who had a child at a young age and
is still fuckable and at age < 20 you have the fantasy
that she's "in reach".
\_ Moro Islamic Liberation Front:
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/milf.htm
\_ from the movie "American Pie". MILF -> Mom I'd Like to
Fuck. Although I don't know why for some reason op thinks
35+ automatically implies motherhood.
\_ It is *not* from the movie. no more than hollywood
invented any of a million other things. The OP didn't
say 35+ implies motherhood, someone later did.
\_ I only know of one over-35 hot Asian woman. She's an HR
director here. She looks 35-40. She has an okay face, but
her body is very hot, something like 5'2" 32D-21-33. Of
course these are only my visual estimates. I wouldn't know
her actual figures. Looking at her is a treat, especially
when she's working out. This is the only one I know in real
life. Every other one is not worth looking at or is worth not
looking at.
\_ BINGO! We have a winner! This is exactly my point. The
rare few that exist occur so infrequently as to be hottie
mutants or something. I work in SF so you'd think I might
see a few. Maybe there's been 1 every 6 months that I've
seen on the street, in a restaurant or BART. Maybe 1.
\_ Um, that sounds like my stepmom, but she's 46.
And HR VP, not director.
\_ What a lucky guy your dad is! |
| 2002/7/10-11 [Health/Sleeping, Health/Women] UID:25323 Activity:very high |
7/10 more on gene:
http://csua.org/u/72
\_ he shouldn've went to grad school
\_ Is this a contracted contraction of "shouldn't have"?
\_ the story was on the front page of Yahoo...
\_ I still think the RIAA did it
\_ "it" being yermom?
\_ Drove him to it or had him sniped?
\_ Ugly stuff, depression. I'm sorry he didn't think he could get
help from a professional before he died.
\_ Actually, he did get help from a professional. The Wired story
alluded to his getting on Prozac. You can't get a scrip for
Prozac (for depression-- it is prescribed for other things)
without seeing a professional. Mental health professionals are
of varying quality, and though they can do good, they can also
do tremendous harm. This is especially true when medication is
involved because we don't really fully understand how Prozac and
the other modern anti-depressants work. One of the problems
with anti-depressants is that they can give someone who would
otherwise lie in bed all day just enough get up and go to attempt
suicide. - seen it happen
\_ And also, the kneejerk prescription of Prozac or Wellbutrin
and the insistence of excessively long stretches (2-3 months
feels terrible don't help either. There are some psychiatrists
out there who need to be smacked.
instead of say 6 weeks) to "test it out" even if the person
feels terrible don't help either. There are some
psychiatrists out there who need to be smacked.
\_ Although I agree with you that Prozac and Zyban are
over-prescribed, I'd disagree that 2-3 months is an
unreasonable time frame to test the medications out. It
takes most individuals approximately 1 month to acclimate
to SSRIs. Effects vary wildly in that first month, and
two weeks really is much too brief a time frame to
evaluate whether the medication is having a net positive
effect. One problem that is quite common is that SSRIs
are incredibly dose sensitive and vary widely in effect
between different people's brain chemistry. As a result,
many psychiatrists play a dangerous game with each
patient when trying to evaluate what works best for that
particular individual. I have friends who are now quite
stable and happy largely due to meds, but, for many of
them, the period where they were trying to figure out
which medication and what dosage was one of their most
trying periods.
\_ Indeed. Note I said 6 weeks (not 2). I have a close
friend who had a seizure on wellbutrin (I know it was
a seizure. I was there.) And her doctor REFUSED to
believe that she had one. She very quickly found a
new doctor who tried a couple other meds and found
to treat patients with respect. If you feel like there's
an aspiring deity posing as a doctor, get a second
opinion.
\_ I can't belive all this bullshit on prescription drugs! You guys
actually buy this bullshit? You want to get out of depression?
Try cooking your own food from fresh ingredients every day instead
of eating restaurant crap or processed crap. Cut back on meat
intake and exercise at least 30 minutes a day. for thousands of
years human being thrived without allergy medications or anti
depressants. What makes you people so special that you need
these chemicals that just control the symptons?
\_ hello Tawei. What about high quality vitamin C?
\_ stfu
that Zoloft worked wonderfully. All I wanted to say
was that there are many doctors out there who feel like
playing god, and there are many doctors who know how
to treat patients with respect. If you feel like
there's an aspiring deity posing as a doctor, get a
second opinion. |
| 2002/7/1-2 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:25257 Activity:very high |
7/1 When two women hug, their breasts will touch each other. How do
you straight women feel about that? -curious
\_ when two men hug, their penises may touch one another. How
not if they are wearing pants_/
do you straight men feel about that? No, wait, most straight
men are freaked out by such things but think two women getting
it on is a total rush. Grow up.
\_ men don't hug, faggot.
\_ men don't hug knee to knee when they rarely hug. It was a nice
try at post-feminist over-reaction but frankly that whole thing
is quite passe and "done". As my ultra fascist psycho radical
lesbian feminist friends would say, "Grow up".
\_ Hmm they usually say "That's not funny."
\_ They used to. Now they just go off on your endlessly and
try to verbally batter you into submission.
\_ do men (straight or otherwise) worry about offending women
(straight or otherwise) when they hug women and press hips?
yes, grow up.
\_ Who the hell are all you people out there who press hips when
they hug? Where are all these hip smashing huggers? I've
*never* seen or heard of such a thing. Breasts touch, hips do
not. Try some basic biology or better yet just go out there and
hug someone instead of spreading the hate on the motd.
\_ it's hard to reach the keyboard while hugging.
\_ Oh, well, yeah there's that.
\_ Another slow day at the motd.farm |
| 2002/6/27 [Health/Women] UID:25211 Activity:nil |
6/26 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020626/sc_nm/health_semen_dc_1 Semen good for women. I like what the last sentence implies. What a bullshit study, article, and conclusion. All it might show is condoms are bad. \_ Is this s subtle way of saying "blowjobs are good" ... The scientists suspect semen will have the same effect on women regardless of how they are exposed to it. \_ Real sharp, slick. |
| 2002/5/6 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:24726 Activity:insanely high |
5/6 Why is it that the pretty girls smile at me all the time when I look
like crap but ignore me the rest of the time?
\_ Perhaps it's because she likes it that you're comfortable with
being yourself and not too conscientious about your looks. Women
HATE guys who're only into their looks and your outgoingness and
\_ Please adhere to motd formatting. You _will_ conform.
\_ feel better now you anal freakazoid ?
\_ You failed to add a newline. The re-education team should
arrive shortly. Do not resist. You don't want them to
get angry.
comfortableness are keys to attraction. IMHO.
\_ Could be pity but at least they do smile at you.
makes me think that people are so jaded these days
that you could be another naked guy and no one would notice
\_ Pity? You think women have pity? I'd like to know what planet
that you could be another naked girl and no one would notice
\_ Pity? You think men have pity? I'd like to know what planet
\_ I always thought pity was why women give blowjobs.
\_ No that's a guilt free exit strategy for women who know
men they don't want to piss off (gun/knife issues) but
still want to keep as just-friends. A bj takes a few
minutes, she's in control, and then she walks away. She
doesn't even have to swallow to get rid of him.
\_ What is the last time you had a good bj?
most girls seem to not have a clue what to do.
\_ A few days ago. I only date women 25+ who have
clue, not 18-20 y/o clueless near-virgins who
waste my time as one of their earliest learning
experiences.
\_ 5 yrs ago. It was so good I couldn't hold back and
came in her mouth, and she swallowed.
\_ Uhm... if she isn't swallowing it isn't a real bj.
Why must the motd tell you this? That's standard.
It goes like this: you warn her about 2 seconds
before you cum, she has the option to pull back
and turn it into a lame hand job, she swallows and
meets the basic blowjob requirement. Sigh... ya
know I think the only thing sadder than my fellow
geeks not getting anything is getting it bad or
getting the basics and thinking it was special.
\_ finding a girl who swallows is like finding
a girl on soda. Difficult; but not impossible
\_ That was even her very first bj in her live.
Now I married her and she gives me lots of bj,
but I lost the ability to come on a bj alone.
Sigh.
you live on and how to buy myself a one-way ticket to this
strange and mysterious planet where women are nice.
\_ Could be but it's been my experience that women will just ignore
\_ BJ subthread deleted for offending .... my oh so sensitive
sensibilities.
\_ Fuck you, ecchang.
\_ Different women like different things. Maybe what you think
\_ You are welcome.
women like a rugged look. -ausman
\_ Hey, they could be laughing at you instead. Count your
blessing. Which, I guess, works out to one. -geordan
\_ Could be but it's been my experience that men will just ignore
a guy and not bother if he's not up to spec. Since I'm married
I guess I'll never find out anyway. Just thought it was odd and
maybe someone had a half assed answer.
\_ Different men like different thighs. Maybe what you think
of as good looking, many women think is too clean cut. Many
women like a rugged look.
\_ Ah the motd, font of misogyny.
\_ How is the original question misogynistic?
\_ Ah the CSUA, font of misogyny. -geordan |
| 2002/1/9 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:23501 Activity:nil |
1/8 http://cse.stanford.edu/classes/cs201/projects-00-01/women-faculty "Socially, I just find myself in awkward situations. Guys hit on me all the time, including a TA. My friendliness gets mistaken for flirtation or romantic interest. Why can't a girl just kick back and hang out with a guy without him and everyone else thinking that there is a romantic involvement!" [ reformatted - motd formatting daemon ] \_ It's probably because you don't know how to format. \_ hey don't pick on her, she's just a girl \_ Let's find her pics and we'll judge if she's making this up. |
| 2001/10/23 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Health/Women] UID:22801 Activity:high |
10/22 http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/daily/foc/0,8773,180342,00.html Webfiles: "The Taliban Are Well Liked" A Japanese doctor's up-close observations contradict overseas reports \_ http://rawa.false.net/index.html go to the links at the bottom. but of course you probably think all thiese pictures an firsthand accounts are fabricated by evil leftists. \_ This "doctor's" story does not ring true. Did the http://asiaweek.com editors properly fact-check this? \_ Ok, let's drop a random foreigner in the middle of Texas and have him report back. "Yes, you see, everyone in America rides in a pickup with a gunrack and drinks cheap beer!" Even if this guy's personal experiences are true and properly reported, it doesn't say squat about the population as a whole. But we know from reading the article that he's merely speculating about a few and possibly many things. And don't even get me started on the BBC as a source of news. \_ Don't be so quick. A lot of people in Afghanistan love the stability that the taliban brought. Granted, these are the in small towns and rural areas who would be raided and suffered greatly while factions traded territory. The people who are complaining are, as the Japanese doctor notes, those in the large cities, especially Kabul, where they have committed astonishing atrocities. I doubt what the doctor says about only "upper-class Afghans" complaining. But (probably) the majority of people [living outside of the cities] there don't care about women not being allowed to work because they wouldn't anyway. Also, the doctor is very correct in pointing out the refugee problem. \_ The solution is obvious. We must attack Japan for harboring those who sympathize with terrorists. |
| 2001/9/23 [Reference/Military, Health/Women] UID:22599 Activity:kinda low |
9/23 Here's who we are fighting. Follow the links and have fun.
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3bade1435a59.htm
\_ See? They're morally superior to us. I'm sure the civilians
must have done something to deserve this! |
| 2001/9/18 [Health/Women] UID:22505 Activity:nil |
9/18 http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/WiredWomen/wiredwomen.html |
| 2001/8/6 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Health/Women] UID:22016 Activity:very high |
8/6 ``Silicon Valley is arrogant,'' she said. ``There is too much focus
on degrees here.'':
http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/special/downturn/docs/slow080601.htm
\_ WTF is this woman talking about? If anything, there is way too
little focus on degrees. Our Senior Architect here had a BA in
philosophy and designed and wrote some of the sloppiest code
I've ever seen. And now I'm cleaning up after the fool after
he left. I'm glad the job market is tight because it's only
squeezed out all the pretenders.
\_ she's trying to do an 'end run' around the little detail
that the ratio of females to males in compsci degree programs
is ludicrous.
\_ EE/CS doesn't interested women. There is nothing that
can be done about that. Its like asking a guy to learn
romantic poetry. Most guys would find that exteremely
dull.
\_ Here in the boudoir, the gourmand metamorphosizes
into the voluptuary!
\_ right. This is most likely an extension of the tired
old argument "women earn less", and ignoring the detail
that they dont want to do the actual work required
for high-paying jobs.
\_ I disagree. I think the problem is that many women
are not encouraged to pursue EE/CS degrees and/or do
not know people who can tell them how much fun EE/CS
can be. My fiance used to think that workin on a
\_ fiancee
computer all day would be really dull. Then once she
started doing some small web and database work she
trying to learn programming on the job. -woman
\_ I disagree. Women are less intelligent and simply want
more for less work. -man
\_ "...more for less work." Yes, this is
unique to women. It is good you clarified this.
\_ Your fiance... she.. signed "woman"? Where's the
lesbian wedding happening?
\_ on wonder you dont get laid
realized how much she liked programming. Now she is
trying to learn programming on the job.
\_ The number of women who find programming interesting
is exteremely small. My mom used to be a AI researcher
and of 150 other people in her building only three of
the women were technical, all of the others were admin
staff and disliked computers and even refused to do
simple html web pages.
Personally I've know women who made better grades than
me in math and physics refuse to study engineering (esp.
ee/cs) because it was "too dull". They just didn't like
the sitting in your cube thinking and tinkering aspects
of coding. Almost all of them went to med school or bio
because there was more human interaction.
Men and women are different and like different types of
work. You cannot "encourage" women into a field they
don't want to work in.
\_ no wonder you dont get laid
\_ There are more things in heaven and earth than
are dreamt of in your dorm room
\_ I agree. We have too many coders at work who are either
dropouts are grads in non-engineering majors in key
developement positions. |
| 2001/7/26 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:21959 Activity:high |
7/26 Women and "hook-ups":
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/07/26/sex.survey/index.html
\_ Why do I find "39%" so difficult to believe?
\_ because you probably spend/spent all or most of your time on
campus in Soda. |
| 2001/7/18-19 [Health/Sleeping, Health/Women] UID:21842 Activity:high |
7/18 sky, what's the optimal way to work out? Max weight (till muscle
failure) with minimal time, medium weight with maximal time, or
somewhere in between? And what's the best recovery period?
\_ max weight 3x per week. recovery/stairmaster for the rest
of the time.
\_ I've tried a million different workouts and apart from
the really stupid 2 hour work outs I did in high school,
it doesn't make that much difference. The most important
thing to do is eat right, sleep right, minimize stress,
and make sure you work out with enough weight to challenge
your muscles. In the 4 months I was following this advice
I got to benching sets of 6 at 320 lbs. Of course now that
I have a life I'm nowhere near that strong. -emin
\_ I've found the best way to work out is *variety*. Take bench press
for instance. One week, just do 3 sets of 10-12 at the same weight.
Next week, try incline presses and/or decline presses. Another week,
do 3-4 sets, increasing 10 pounds per set, to exhaustion. Your
muscles are highly efficient at adjusting to the same routine, so
you have to constantly surprise them with a different routine.
\_ why are you asking sky? Shouldn't you be asking ax?
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ax
\_ this gets more to the point:
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ax/Superman.jpg
\_ I'm not sky, but I can confirm that no more than 3X a week for
weights is a good rule of thumb. The secret to your muscle endurance
and agility also involves cardiovascular activities. Stairmasters,
treadmills, escalators, etc., so you want to make sure you balance
your weight-lifting with such exercises. Also watch your diet too;
and your day-to-day posture. (no slouching when you sit coding 8-10
hours a day) And a touch of positive mental attitude to get your
arse to the gym religiously. For more info, check out
http://www.menshealth.com Plenty of good make-sense tips on variety
of workout you'd ever need. - jthoms
\_ Is it 3X a week on the same muscle group or 3X a week overall?
I'm confused because I also heard that the best is to have a
5-day cycle, where you work on one separate muscle group on each
of the first four days and then rest on the fifth day.
\_ It depends on your purpose. (btw, this was covered on motd
a few months ago, if you want to see the archive). Get big
on a certain muscle groups (chest, shoulder or arm), focus
on each group each time you work out. You're less likely to
tear a muscle if you pace yourself though. If you just want
to get toned, or have limited time to spend at the gym, do
comprehensive workout that works different muscle groups.
You may alternate chest, then butts, then shoulder, then
upper back, etc. to prevent fatigue. - jthoms |
| 2001/7/15-16 [Recreation/Pets, Health/Women] UID:21803 Activity:very high |
7/14 So the poor guy that rid this world of Leo got smacked with
a 3 year jail sentence. I hope that judge that sentenced him
gets mauled to death by a tiny little useless dog.
\_ seriously. guy's life is screwed now...hope he gets parole
soon.
\_ the said guy was a moron anyway. why do you feel sorry for him?
he's a social misfit who obviously can't control his anger.
besides, now he's currently under trial for stealing equipment
from PacBell.
in addition, now he's currently under trial for stealing
equipment from PacBell.
\_ And this is what's WRONG with him? Who the fuck are you?
\_ Clearly his actions aren't civilized behavior. He got
what he deserved. What's your problem?
\_ Look, when your casual drug dealer, who is doing nothing wrong
to anybody, and in fact providing people with a service, gets
10 to 20, you can't really expect me to be sorry for this
bastard.
\_ Not to say that that guy didn't deserve it, but shouldn't you be
arguing against jailing the casual drug dealer instead of using
him as an example of "oh well, the system's f*ed"?
\_ First, he's not a moron. Don't tell me you've never stolen
equipment from your school or work, and don't tell me you've
\_ I have never stolen equipment from school or work. If you have,
you are scum, and I hope you end up in prison one day.
never been outraged at an animal. Next, I feel sorry for him
because the poor guy is gonna be locked away for 3 freaking
years because he did away with a lowly animal. It wasn't a
\_ bah, with good behavior, just 1.5 years
\_ 3 months
human baby or anything, but a #$%& dog! To me, it's the same
thing as throwing out a houseplant. A dog's got a bit more brains,
but it's still inferior to humans. => Fine him; that's all.
\_ It doesn't matter if it's inferior to humans. Retards are inferior
to me but that doesn't mean I can throw them into traffic. Besides
animals have value to their owners that you can't calculate easily
like a broken window. You can't just buy a new one and that's it.
Animals have memories and personalities, some more than others.
If advanced aliens come along they should throw you into traffic.
\_ All men are created equal. Retards are not "inferior" to you
or anyone else. They are full citizens in the eyes god and the
law. - nitpicker
\_ You obviously have never had a dog.
\_ That's true, I never have. But, although I do realize
that people often treat their pets as companions, I
don't think that dogs/animals deserve the same status
as humans.
\_ they don't have the same status as humans. If the guy
threw a baby named Leo into oncoming traffic, he'd have
gotten a lot more than 3 years.
\_ What if the baby was ugly, useless, and barked in
a really annoying manner?
\_ that describes every baby i've ever seen, only
replaced "bark" with "cry".
\_ Then I'd Leo its ass.
\_ it'd end up a motd poster just like you
\_ I have never stolen equipment from school or work. Just because
you have no ethics doesn't mean I don't. The dog owner dinged his
precious SUV, so he walked over to her, grabbed the dog, and threw
it into traffic. Animal abusers are often sociopaths anyway, so
\_ In PC-eco whack america today animals are as
if not more important than humans. Look at the farmers
vs. the sucker fish in Klamath Falls, Or.
it's a good idea to get these nuts off the street.
\_ If you get mad at a dog, kill it and serve it to its owner. If
you get mad at a baby, do not kill it THAT IS WRONG!! just sew up
its mystery hole and keep feeding it peas. The End.
\_ In PC-eco whack america today animals are as if not more important
than humans. Look at the farmers vs. the sucker fish in Klamath
Falls, Or.
\_ Save a farmer! Fillet a sucker fish!
\_ Die farmers, die! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
\_ Hey, this is America. Love it or leave it, dude.
\_ The whacked PC eco nutcase liberalism is the complete
antithesis of the principles that America is based on.
We love America, its the whacked out PC eco nutcases
who need to leave. |
| 2001/7/10 [Health/Women] UID:21755 Activity:high |
7/9 http://www.mynippon.com/women/bsize.htm discuss \_ Asian women with big breasts are ugly. Cute Asian Girls have small breasts. This is the way of things. \_ http://www.mynippon.com/men/lookbreasts.htm "'Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well- endowed female is equivalent to a 30 minute aeorbics work-out.'" uh-huh. Who says Sodans don't get exercise? \_ D00D U R S0 R1GH7!!!! D/L'1NG PR0N 15 H4RD W0RK!!!! \_ this site is so sick and demented \_ yeah but the fetishers always got better pix than those porn sites. \_ Firm Bs are perfect. \_ hear hear! |
| 2001/7/6-7 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:21727 Activity:high |
7/6 Thanks to whoever posted that http://askmen.com URL. It's nice to finally see what sick twisted sadistic things women are really thinking. \_ Hear hear! Spent past 5 hours reading that site. Get past the BS commercial pitch, and they sure have some interesting shi to say. \_ here, here. women should realize they are nothing more than baby factories. \_ Why don't you turn off that 90% of your brain that's been brainwashed by berkeley liberals and try to use that one last brain cell to see what the guy has to actually say. \_ go the gay way \_ more interesting: http://www.askmen.com/love/player/paris5.html \_ read any penthouse letters recently? \_ OK, you guys are morons. Obviously, you've never been to a grocery store. How can you explain all of those headlines which say, "How to Drive Him Wild." or look "10 Sexual Secrets You'll Need to Keep Your Man." For those of you who got divorced and had to pay alimony, she probably realized that watching you playing Baldur's Gate all of the time was cramping her style. \_ Learn to format to 80 columns. And make your point. You've failed to do so thus far. |
| 2001/5/21 [Health/Women] UID:21311 Activity:high |
5/21 Can someone explain to me exactly wtf happened in the climax of season
finale of X-Files last night? It made absolutely no sense.
\_ Not really. It's the xfiles. What'd you expect?
\_ as if any of the episodes make any sense? Scully had a regular kid.
\_ it was like Mary and Joseph and Jesus, 3wisemen = lonegunmen bearing
gifts, the star followed was a spaceship, the angels where the
aliens, mulder was joseph, mary was scully, the baby was jesus.
\_ So it was mulder and scully's kid? Was it a virgin birth or was
it implied that mulder and scully did the deed? Also was the baby
human or alien?
I gave up watching X-Files after the movie came out. My favorite
character, Cancer Man, didn't have a big enough role.
\_ Wait, so Billy Myers went around killing everyone but really
wanted to protect the kid? Why try to kill the other protectors?
\_ was the baby switched? maybe they didn't realize it... |
| 2001/5/7 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:21201 Activity:nil 75%like:21199 |
5/7 Ideal breast size poll:
None:
< AA:
AA:
A: ...
\_ Is this for real or a sick joke? Or an asian fetish thing?
\_ For real. There are many reasons why small is better (but
not too small or else your chest will be bigger than hers).
I saw a list on a website once but I'll give you a few.
They're cute and perky, they hold their form without support
better than larger ones do generally, women sometimes go
without that annoying thing we call bras, they don't sag
as much as larger ones, and its easier to find women with
A's and B's that are all-natural and aren't grossly overweight.
\_ No bra good! No bra, see through shirt even better!
No bra, see through shirt, short skirt, no panties
best! Esp. if asian!
\_ Dude, 30A's are pretty hot! Brings out the pedophile in
all of us.
\_ Asians don't have breasts. A would be large for an
asian.
\_ Wrong. There are fat big breasted chinese and indian
women. Unattractive, but still they exists.
\_ Indian women are the most attractive women in the world.
They also have the right attitude in bed (gotta love that
cultural indoctrination).
\_ Wrong. Japanese School girls are the most attractive
women in the world. - #1 fan of rice fever
\_ Wrong. I saw a few with C's and D's with small waists at a
shopping mall just yesterday. If you only hang out in
Chinatown your chances will be lower.
\_ which shopping mall? Surely not Valley Fair or Vallco.
B: ..
C: ..
D: ...
D - DD (aka "large D"):
\_ I prefer Double-Ds, one in each hand.
- Bill C.
\_ Is that Monica's size?
\_ Monica who? - Bill C.
\_ Oh Mr. President, don't
you remember me? - Girl in
the blue gap dress
> D:
\_ The relative chest:bust ratio is more important than the
absolute size of the breasts.
\_ It's the relative chest/waist/butt ratio that is important. 3:2:3
\_ the ability to titty-f is my primary desire, hence absolute
size is important.
\_ Both are important to me.
\_ While we're on this topic, it seems to me that the actual sizes of
the same cup size measurement (e.g. D-cup) in US and in Japan are
different. Is it really the case?
\_ In theory it's one inch per letter, but like most clothing size
things, different companies do different things.
\_ Japanese women with smaller perkier breasts are preferable
to fat white US women with bigger saggier breasts.
\_ Lack of choice may lead Japanese men to that conclusion.
\_ 6 year olds still don't have cup sizes
\_ Hee hee! I think that was a joke! Hee hee!
\_ Asian women don't have cup sizes either.
\_ ... especially 6 year old boys.
\_ get your sick gay ass off the motd
\_ Where are the soda ladies complaining about this ?
I am soo tired of seeing women treated like this on
the motd .. a non-female soda ite
\_ They are barefoot, pregnant and have gone to the
kitchen to get me a beer - #1 white male oppressor
\_ There are women on soda? Wow! Pics Please!
BTW, how do I sign up for a date with one
of them?
\_ There's a web form. |
| 2001/4/26-27 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:21110 Activity:insanely high |
4/26 house passes bill defining fetuses as people. what's next,
sperm is "potential people" and jacking off is a federal crime?
\_ too much gov intervention on people life is a dangerous thing.
besides we should be concerned with over population.
\_ http://www.tennessean.com/sii/99/09/07/fetus07.shtml
21 week old fetus reaches out and grabs doctor's hand.
\_ what is a "medical ethicist"? hi there, i'm a medical ethicist.
as opposed to a diesel engine ethicist. what i say goes.
\_ I thought the picture was interesting.
\_ Yes! Excellent! *Now* young troll, you have walked across the
rice paper without leaving a mark! I'm so proud of you! -papatroll
\_ thanks, dad. now i must seek revenge against the evil red trolls.
\_ Yeah. Millions of potential murders. You horrible mocking
unbeliever, you! Uhm, Die now or something.
\_ sperm does not have the full genetic code to make a unique
human being.
\_ So is masturbation a half murder? Potential murder? Maybe an
attempted murder?
\_ think boolean operation. sperm by itself or an egg by itself
does not activate human life threshold function. 0 or 1.
\_ okay, what if I take a bunch of sperm and eggs, and mix
them around in a solution so that I get a thousand little
2-cell fetuses, and then flush it down the toilet. did
i just kill thousands of people?
\_ so when does human life start for you?
\_ so why do you only answer with another question?
\_ answering without proper context would not be
a good idea. A larger view of things would be better.
So when does human life start in your view?
\_ what does my opinion have to do with yours?
\_ the question to resolve is when life
starts. I want to get the other point of view
too to be able to properly contrast the two.
\_ i asked whether the sperm egg thing would
be killing, not for a compare/contrast.
\_ We're finally taking our nation back!!! -NRA supporter
\_ Uh, you're mixing your politics up. The NRA has nothing to do
with abortion.
\_ When sperm is outlawed, only outlaws will have sperm.
\_ i have more sperm than i need, but not as much as i want.
\_ if sperm is "potential people" then I practice genocide on a
daily basis
\_ sperm and fetus are completely different things...
\_ they are people, human, but are they US citizens?
\_ Probably not, since they are not (yet) born in the US.
pills", on the other hand, kill fertilized eggs. E.g. RU401.
\_ Interesting point. Its is not clear that the "equal
protection" clause would apply to unborn children.
But it is still murder, since killing a non-citizen
is the same as killing a citizen.
\_ why do you care if some fetus is aborted? i can
see why the mother cares, but why should you?
it's none of your damn business. what justification
do you have for considering a fetus a person?
the bible certainly doesn't. a fetus doesn't
breathe air. it is physically integrated into the
mom's body, sharing her bloodstream. damned if
the government has jurisdiction over the inside
of someone's body. A uterus is not US territory.
\_ I'm pro-choice, however, I do care if other people are
killing other third parties I don't know. Your logic
doesn't follow cleanly on that point.
\_ why should you care about Jane Doe or John Doe
being murdered elsewhere?
\_ because they're human beings.
\_ so are those in the womb. When does human life
start relative to conception? 9 months?
12 months? when?
\_ Life begins at birth, however, you're not a
real person until around age 8 or so (it varies)
at which point you are capable of feeling for
others. Once you can feel for others, you
become human and not just some animal on two
legs. Yes, this logically leads to post-natal
abortions. And why not?
\_ 8 years? Yes! If my 5 year old kid is
bratty, I have a right to kill him/her!
That would be so cool!
\_ a person's life begins when they're *born*.
duh. that's the standard by which society
has always judged these things. that's
why we celebrate birthdays, not conceptiondays.
why do you have to try to use your limited
medical knowledge to complicate things? what's
wrong with the obvious definition?
do you want us to start putting fetal tissue
in graves, and have church gatherings for it,
and put who knows what on the headstone?
\_ so you would support killing a "baby"
20 seconds before it is to be born
(such as 1 second before 9 months)?
\_ irrelevant. i don't *support*
killing anything, fetuses included.
if a woman goes into contractions,
and then kills the baby, jeez
you're reaching. but if there's a
line to be drawn it should be
sensible, like third trimester.
\_ what's the point in protecting
fetuses if it isn't human life
and human life begins at a birthday?
How dare you infringe on the rights
of women who just so happen to have
a bunch of cells in them. There
is no point protecting those cells.
\_ just consider this thought experiment. we have the ability
to produce test tube babies. so imagine a timed apparatus
containing egg and sperm, set to begin the conception at
12 midnight. then the janitor knocks it over. is that murder?
if not, why not? a fetus is a bunch of cells that will grow
into a baby. so is that egg and sperm, in that apparatus.
now replace that apparatus with a guy and girl. oh shit,
by not fucking each other they're murdering a potential baby!
\_ I believe this is called a "slippery slope argument" or
"argument from the heap", but I don't remember which. It's
a common fallacy. Basically you are saying the gov't
arbitrarily drew a sharp line dividing A and B. However,
A is to B as B is to C and B is to C as C is to D. Therefore
since A is illegal and that is pretty much the same as D,
then D should be illegal. Since making D illegal would be
absurd you conclude that making A illegal is also absurd.
Killing a person is illegal so since smart animals are similiar
to people killing them should be illegal too. Also since
dumb animals are similiar to smart animals, killing them
should be illegal. Insects are basically dumb animals
so killing insects should be illegal. But making the
killing of insects illegal is absurd so making murder
illegal is also absurd. By the way, I'm not pro-life,
I'm just pointing out that your argument is flawed. -emin
\_ i disagree. because there is a huge difference between
a seperate living organism (baby) and the organic parts
inside a mother that _can_ produce a baby.
\_ emin, i know the answer to this point and it's not one
that should be discussed right now, because we need to
talk about other things. -lotfi zadeh.
\_ That makes me very curious. What is the answer?
\_ Hah, hah, very funny, really. I didn't know other
sodans were at Zadeh's talk on Tuesday. -emin
\_ i was there, wasn't it? -lotfi zadeh.
\_ what's the definition of a fetus? 4 weeks after conception?
\_ okay, what if I take a bunch of sperm and eggs, and mix
them around in a solution so that I get a thousand little
2-cell fetuses, and then flush it down the toilet. did
i just kill thousands of people?
2 weeks after embryo?
\_ defined as ``a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage
of development, who is carried in the womb''
\_ so will this make using oral birth control illegal, since
those are fertilized eggs being flushed away?
\_ The common female birth control pills don't kill fertilized
eggs. They prevent eggs from being produced. "Morning-after
pills", on the other hand, kill fertilized eggs. E.g. RU-486.
\_ Bzzt. Wrong. on both counts. birth control pills
prevent fertilized eggs from attaching to the uterine
wall. RU486 causes the uterine wall to slough away,
thereby ending the pregnancy. Get a fucking clue.
\_ Actually, it looks like we both are right about the
common pills. Plus they also prevent eggs from being
fertilized. See
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/bc/YOU_AND_PILL.HTM#Basics
\_ I think it's not the government's business. I support the
mom-is-god until baby is given birth position. The bond
between mom and fetus is unique, and mom has to take all
responsibilities for it.
\_ i fully agree. an unborn fetus is not a person. it is not a
citizen of any country. hence, if the mother kills her own
fetus it's nobody else's business. if someone else kills it
or damages it against her will, that's another matter, but
we're protecting the mother's rights and not the damn fetus.
\_ Mom is not always god, because not all moms are good. Consider
moms that want to kill thier kids. Bad mothers. Murders.
\_ I agree, but God has given mom and unborn kid a unique bond,
and has given mom the full responsibility (including guilt)
for the unborn kid. Attempts for the clumsy government to
intervene will only backfire and make things worse.
\_ not all gods are good either. so?
\_ let us take a baby inside the womb about to be born. Lets take
it partially out. Lets kill it. Legal in the U.S. What's the
difference between a baby halfway out of the womb and a baby
outside the womb in terms of being "human", or having the act
be "legal".
\_ what if the woman miscarries the fetus? should woman be charged
with involuntary manslaughter?
\_ No, miscarriage is not the same a murder (or what you refer
to as abortion). A induced miscarriage would be murder though.
\_ You missed his/her point. If I accidentally ran someone down
with my car, killing him, I'm charged with involuntary
manslaughter, even though I clearly didn't mean to hit the
person. The poster is trying to stretch that to miscarriage
\_ it's not a stretch. what if the mom crashes her car and
the resulting injury causes a miscarriage? hmmmm?
\_ Well, I didn't use the word "stretch" in that I
disagreed with him (I'm undecided actually). But it
is a valid question, imho.
\_ the idea is "intent" or negligence.
\_ What if a pregnant woman goes to see a movie rated NC17?
Since her fetus is a "human being", wouldn't she be
violating some rules about bringing children there?
Can a pregnant woman be sued for child abuse if she
smokes or drinks (good Republican values) while
pregnant, since the House republicans are calling
the fetus a human being? |
| 2001/4/25 [Health/Women] UID:21101 Activity:nil |
4/25 Just saw a poster: "Exotic is not a compliment". In what ways is it
not a compliment?
\_ for when ethnic chicks (asian, mullatto) are called 'exotic'. They
claim that 'things' are exotic, not people...
\_ Only the annoying PC ones. Real women understand that it isn't
meant that way and don't spend too much time flipping through a
dictionary for ways to be 'offended'. Exotic just means, "not
white and very attractive". Ugly not-white chicks are never
called exotic. They're called ugly.
\_ Agreed.
\_ Your definition is wrong. White chicks are often exotic.
\_ Only 4 R1C3 B015!
\_ do you mean this in the same way that "nigger" isn't an
offensive word? -ali
\_ I wish I was exotic. -white boy
\_ I wish I was white - broke and exotic
\_ Go to Japan. The women there will molest you.
exotic is in the eye of the beholder. Of course, they're
mostly dumb women with the disgusting habit of smoking.
\_ Aren't the women in Japan well dressed, demure, shy and
slightly coy? - #1 anime fan
\_ You are.
\_ I am erotic.
\_ People who post on the motd are not erotic. |
| 2001/3/19 [Health/Women] UID:20843 Activity:high |
3/19 All women are evil.
\_ You are Dave Sim and I claim my five pounds. |
| 2001/3/14-15 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:20785 Activity:high |
3/14 Women are more violent than Men:
http://www.massnews.com/womvio.htm
\_ That article means nothing. The results at most show those women
*attempted* to fight, a much better quantifier of violence would
be number of stitches. When was the last time you saw a man
bruised from a beating by his wife. Get a clue, stop posting
idiotic articles.
\_ Did you read the same article I just did? It doesn't
say what you're claiming it says. A more important point
is that this information was suppressed for 14 years.
\_ It took you this long to figure that out?
\_ You guys are wimps.
\_ I guess women have more balls than men: *I* wouldn't
start a fight with someone bigger and stronger than me. |
| 2001/2/15 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:20607 Activity:nil |
2/14 http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates2/lat_marry010214.htm (and you thought a 4:1 male-female ratio was limited only to tech corridors and EE departments.) "A mini-census conducted in 1995 showed that never-married men 20 to 44 years old outnumbered their female counterparts by nearly 2 to 1. (Between the ages of 25 and 39, the ratio was 4 to 1.) ... 'If you have an area where men are up in the hills, on the periphery, growing old without women, these people have always become ... the raw material of rebellion in China,' said William Lavely, a visiting sociology professor at UCLA." \_ [censor's comments censored again] It's not my quote. I just don't like you and every other motd censor. So now I'm giving you a taste of your own medicine. \_ WTF is your problem? YOU are the one censoring things. YOU are the one removing quotes and text and comments from the motd. Fucking replace the original comment/entry because it was an accurate critique of the original motd entry, and gave a much more complete picture of what the article said and what the situation in china is. \_ The chickens are coming home to roost. \_ The alternative being...? Mass starvation? \_ and for a different type of quote from the same article: "Where are you going to get extra females? Import women from other countries?" Banister said. "Only the most radical things could solve it, and nobody's suggesting those radical things, like women getting two husbands each." \_ Marry Russian women. I heard that Russia has more women than men cause the men drank too much vodka. \_ The solution is Christianity, and its anti-abortion stance will stop the parents from using ultrasound to abort female fetuses. |
| 2000/10/6-7 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:19426 Activity:insanely high |
10/6 Are women in EE/CS highly contested for? If so, is it because they're
desirable or is it because they are rare?
\_ If you're looking at it from a corporate perspective, female
engineers are more desirable hiring candidates, because employers
like to keep their demographics in hiring balanced to qualify for
equal opportunity employment.
\_ Female empolyees are more expensive than Male employees. Most
women have one bad week every month. Thats a 25% reduction in
efficicy
efficicy. Plus they all want to get married, pregnant, leave
early to take care of kids, etc. Don't hire a woman engineer
if you want to get any work done.
\_ I would never get laid if I didnt hire female subordinates.
\_ considering the appearance of many female engineers,
you and a pumpkin or a whole in the ground might
be a better bet.
\_ R U l00K1NG 2 G3T SU3D D00D?!?
\_ Women who are hot, smart, expressive, and are like you are rare
finds. If you are EE/CS, and review the EE/CS meat, the Bell
curve has shifted that much over to the right for you.
\_ expressive? .... like python?
\_ like smalltalk.
\_ baby, if you do the right things, in no time at all
she'll be wanting *your* python
\_ yeah, and look at all the guys in EE/CS who are hot, smart
and expressive. Hah. -tom
\_ I guess you mean Ali.
\_ there are some who are one for three (smart).
\_ or two out of three.
\_ tom is smart and expressive...
\_ And hot! wee-oooo!
\_ I believe that it is spelled H0T D00D!
\_ soda% grep "\~raytrace\/ " access.log | wc
21 336 3119
soda% grep "\~lila\/ " access.log | wc
most poeple in this world, is only attractive as far
4 62 639
soda% grep "\~tom\/ " access.log | wc
1 14 162
\_ Old jungle saying 'What do you call a pretty girl in EE/CS class?'
'A visitor'. Women in EE/CS only get play cause EE/CS geeks can't
get dates with any other types of women. I've only met a few EE/CS
women that knew thier stuff. All the others were either getting
the homeworks from thier boyfriends or were bonking the TAs.
\_ You obviously never met raytrace.
\_ Not being ugly is not the same as pretty. Raytace, like
most people in this world, is only attractive as far
as she isn't ugly. IF you really think she is a beauty
then you need to get out more.
\_ Although not number 1 on my favorite people list,
this is so FUCKED UP
severely and positively fucked up.
picking on a single person like this was highly
inappropriate. Both of you should be ashamed.
The first for setting her up as some ideal which
was certain to be attacked on the motd, and the
second for taking the bait and attacking her.
\_ You miss the fact that there is a long
tradition of someone posting about EECS
women to the motd every few months, and
the response is always "you haven't met
raytrace".
\_ You bozo, raytrace is an example of a woman
who didn't have to depend on boinking someone.
\_ Can you keep your opinions to yourself?
who are you to publically discuss her level
of attraction anyway? and who are you to dismiss
those who find her attractive so quickly?
this is so FUCKED UP severely and positively
fucked up.
\_ look I'm not saying she is ugly, I'm just
saying she isn't really all the remarkable
one way or the other. And you know, that
generally non remarkably pretty (or ugly)
people are still attractive cause basically
the human body is attractive. Just she isn't
worth trotting out as a gorgeous CS girl,
cause if that is as gorgeous as CS girls get
then the comment that there are no gergeous
CS chicks out there is right on the money.
\_ For most sodans, live female human falls
into the attractive category.
\_ i don't knew who raytrace is, but damn,
this is some funny shit. you guys have
really mellowed my friday.
\_ Hi lila! People have a right to discuss their
opinions! It's in the constitution somewhere!
\_ uh, why would you think i wrote that...
i don't try to censor people, and i
generally sign my posts. -lila
\_ Actually, its in the Bill of Rights, which
is technically not part of the Constitution.
\_ Umm it is an amendment to the constituion.
That makes it part of it. Dumbass. The
thing to correct people about is those
idiots who think the Decleration of Indep.
is part of the constitution (Life, liberty,
and all the fucking jazz)
\_ Amendments are add ons to the
constitution. They are not part of it.
Ask a constitutional lawyer. There is
a difference.
\_ no I haven't. Who's raytrace?
\_ Any pics? Her home page doesn't have any.
\_ leave raytrace alone. singling out a woman
on the motd is so fucking pathetic.
\_ I bet you're trying to score with her, that's
why you are defending here on the motd. Typical
EE/CS geek: "Hey baby, they were beating you up
on the motd, but I posted telling them to lay off.
How about a date? I promise to bathe the week before."
\_ pathetic. once again. i'm female, straight and
married.
\_ Are you going to swindle your man out of his
hard-earned money because he wasn't smart enough
to get a prenup?
\_ Not all EE/CS students are geeks who can't get play with
non-EE/CS chicks. Those who can't deserve what they get.
\_ If you are any good at EE/CS you won't be interested in
getting play.
\_ This sounds more like sour grapes than anything.
\_ Eva Chan was cute. Anyone knows where she went?
\_ got pix?
\_ No, I wish I got some.
\_ Where do all the lonely geeks go? Now you know.
\_ They're all posting on the motd looking desperately for
pics of female ee/cs students. I already knew that. |
| 2000/9/24-25 [Health/Women] UID:19316 Activity:high |
9/23 http://cupid.thespark.com/track.mpl?id=21 -- what are YOU? \_ Performer (yah baby!) \_ Fucker (enjoys the juiciness of performers 'baby'!) \_ JUDGE! \_ Experimenter (DIAT) -- woohoo \_ Politician, you puny voters |
| 2000/9/7 [Health/Women] UID:19199 Activity:nil |
9/6 Asian Women or White women ?
\_ there are good women and not so good women in both groups.
\_ but which has a higher percentage of good ones? |
| 2000/8/8 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Health/Women] UID:18916 Activity:high |
8/7 http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/08/03/it.women/index.html I've got tape drives, nerf guns and stock options. Don't need no steeking women in my work place. \_ Most girls lose interest in math/science from 11-15. Why can't we just accept this fact and just let it be. Girls are good at GUI. Guys are good at core. Fuck this equal pay, equal right shit. -guy \_ Dr. Anita Borg. Heh. Her names Borg. Heh. Heheheh. \_ "At lunch they would just talk about...wires and machines." Whoa, that sucks-- this lady was working with a bunch of people who actually liked their jobs enough to talk about them outside of the office. \- seems to me this is what leads to the so-called "ageism" in the valley as well ... would you rather hire a guy who goes hometo the wife and kids or hangs out at work and hacks? these people complaining just need to deliver where it counts: productivity. it would be one thing if the women were complaing about being hit on and such. --psb \_ Yeah, psb has got it right on. Nothing improves my productivity than chicks in the workplace. Down-to- earth, productive, nice-smelling women. I am so motivated -- it's such a pleasant working environment I can code forever with that 50:50 M/F ratio that I've missed so long ago from before college. \_ Some guys who go home at 6-7 PM also get in at 6-7 AM. The kids that come in at 11-12 PM and leave at 2 AM only spend a few more hours at work and generally are not as effective for lack of experience. I would prefer a mix of old and young on my development team in order \_ i prefer a special computer selected team with masks that give everyone special powers and ordinary vehicles that turn into fighting platforms! \_ No good -- I'd get stuck working with T-Bob. \_ We have developed AI to such a degree that the AIs now do all the programming at my company. It became a problem though when they formed a union. \_ I do not trust Dr. Borg. \_ If society is sending a message to women/girls that they aren't build a good product. \_ It's bullshit. If productivity is the goalpost, pay according to actual productivity, not dumb prejudices. Companies would rather hire a 20-something who goofs off 24/7 than a 50-something who actually has work ethic but only works five days out of the week. That's ageism, or at least stupidity. And yet it's what's done. \_ Let us know when you found the perfect company. What you're forgetting is the 50 year olds who spen 40hrs/wk fucking around vs. the 20somethings who spend 100+ doing great work. capable of working with computers (math, etc.), then I think that is terrible and something that should be remedied. However, all the discussion i have seen about the shortage of women in the computer industry is about the fact that women don't want to work with the kind of people who generally work with computer. Well, if that's the case, then fuck them. I find that argument absolutely galling. What's the solution, stop geeks from going into the computer industry and replace them with actors and models and frat-boys or something? \_ That's the Trilogy model. \_ Women don't go into computers, generally, because they're not very bright and only want to be pregnant. |
| 2000/8/4-5 [Health/Women] UID:18870 Activity:high |
8/3 Anybody else find cubicle flatulence to be a problem? The woman
that sits next to me farts a lot! and it really stinks. Women like
to pretend that they don't fart, but they do. And it smells really
really bad. -victim of cubicle flatulence
\_ that's fuckin' funny...are you a guy or a girl who's
suffering miserably. I haven't seen an older woman
rip one yet in public, and much less the "silent
but deadly" type.
\_ iaido. A cubicle is roughly 6' in diamter. nice and quiet.
\_ Pretend that the AC is not cool enough for you, then get a small
fan and face it her way.
\_ I often fart in my cube. What else should I do, run to the bathroom
20 times a day?
\_ Cut down on the beans or see a doctor.
\_ Screw the cube, get an office.
\_ IF you're Asian, you might be lactose intolerant.
Watch your dairy intake.
\_ Even if you're not asian. |
| 2000/7/27 [Health/Women, Recreation/Dating] UID:18796 Activity:nil |
7/27 *sigh* Do all women suck? Or just only the ones that I meet?
\_ I'm a woman. I don't suck.
\_ Wow. All the ones I meet, can't ever get them to suck.
\_ jj is that you?
\_ They would suck, but they wouldn't swallow, which made me
think that they didn't love me. I may have been wrong. |
| 2000/6/4 [Health/Women] UID:18402 Activity:moderate |
04/64 What does it mean when some statistic says that some form of
contraception has a xx% success rate? I've seen condom stats
as low as 80%. Does that mean that 1 out of every 5 uses will
get you pregnant? That doesn't seem to make sense since aren't
women fertile about that same percentage of the month?
\_ my memory is it is after a year of regular use
\_ It means "parenthood". |
| 2000/4/25-27 [Health/Dental, Health/Women] UID:18113 Activity:very high |
4/25 Everyone watch 60 mins II tonight at 9 on ch 5 and watch their
report on Ecstasy. See my arch-nemisis emmanual sferios. -sky
\_ Just another media expose with the alarmist perspective
on alternative culture.
\_ Is he aware you're his arch nemesis? That seems unlikely.
\_ He is aware. He forced my gf to resign from her position
because she refused to break up with me. He was crying
and stuff and he also thinks I am out to destroy him.
--sky
\_ You're a psycho. That's the wildest shit I've heard on the
motd in over 3 days.
\_ Heh...most people do think I am psychotic. I prefer
it that way. But it is true. He told her in no
uncertain terms that if she didn't stop seeing me,
she would not be allowed to participate in dancesafe.
First off, he criticizes me for doing crystal, but
he did some before the 60 minutes interview because
it he feels it makes him more talkative and personable.
But he was also hurt because she had always put DS first
in her life and never had much of a life outside of
work until she met me. And he has a crush on her.
Then there are a whole other host of reasons I wont go
in to. -sky
\_ All 3 of you are way too far gone into the drugs.
Only some druggy fucks would behave like any of
you.
\_ It doesn't follow that because emmanuel is sky's arch-nemesis,
sky is emmanuel's arch-nemesis.
\_ What do you think "arch" means? Duh. --i386
\_ chief/principal. What do YOU think it means?
\_ lame-ass drug testing
\_ We know what it means, you don't. For example:
Bill Gates is Scott McNealy's Arch-Enemy, however
Bill Gates' arch-enemy is not SM, but Janet Reno
\_ Wow, you're all idiots. This was a joke.
\_ What's your issue with Sferios? The cop seems like more of a
bastard. -dans
\_ Wants to take away your drugs and put your dumb ass in jail?
\_ Drugs are bad, mmkay, don't do drugs. Do you think this
actually works? All my friends went through drug scare
education, and that didn't stop any of them from
getting into some serious shit. If they were taught
something sane, like abstaining from drugs is best, but, if
you're going to use, use responsibly, they would have been
saved from a world of grief. And if you think this is just
about drugs, it isn't. The biggest substance problems I've
seen are associated with alcohol, and hey, that's legal, so
it must be okay. Please. Drug scare education is insane
because there is no recourse when it fails, and it almost
always does. Locking people up doesn't work. Methods like
harm reduction that teach responsible use are far more
effective. Want living proof, look at sex-ed programs that
teach only abstinence versus programs that encourage
abstinence, but also teach about safer-sex. The bone-headed
communities that teach abstinence-only consistently have
higher rates of teen pregnancy and stds. -dans
\_ Don't put words in my mouth. I simply think you're a
whiney "make my drugs legal" cry baby.
\_ Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything
about legalization. I did say something about drug
scare education being about as intelligent as you
are. I simply think you're brainwashed reactionary.
-dans
\_ Which was a response to me saying your stupid
druggy ass belongs in jail, not in school.
\_ He is willing to jepoardize the collectives that supported him
in his quest to spread harm reduction. Plus he had a big
crush on my girlfriend and made her resign for not breaking
up with me. And he talks a lot of shit behind peoples backs
and lies and twists their words around as he sees fit. -sky
\_ Made her resign? Over you? Don't be ridiculous.
\_ She was the first dancesafe volunteer and one of
only a handful of salaried DS employees. Yes,
she had to resign for not breaking up with me.
He has issues, trust me. -sky
\_ I still question "had to resign". Or else what?
\_ Good answer. So, in your opinion, does that completely
taint DanceSafe, or is it still a worthwhile organization
to work with? -dans
\_ Well, he is the national director...There is no longer
a Bay Area chapter...it was disbanded after my gf left.
If you want to help spread harm reduction nationally,
then it is definately a worthwhile organization to
work with. If you would rather help practice and
spread harm reduction in the bay area, my gf is
organizing a group that will continue to do was the
ds bay area chapter did...distribute harm reduction
literature, answer questions, and do pill testing at
local raves and you might prefer working with her.
I have a big mouth...I really shouldn't talk shit
about him like this. Email me if you want to talk
about it more... -sky
\_ So you're an active supporter of kids doing only
moderate amounts of damage to themselves?
\_ Emanuel rocks. The war on drugs is expensive and completely
ineffective; harm reduction is the only rational answer.
There are a number of other groups involved with it, which 60
minutes choose not to mention (despite interviewing them). -kurtz
\_ I am all for harm reduction. But emanuel is willing to fuck
over the people who supported him (im not talking about me)
in order to achieve those goals. He is also a hypocritical,
delusional, arrogant, closed minded, meglomaniacal bastard.
But yeah, they didnt include their interview with Shulgin,
the national police consultant on dance drugs that supports
dancesafe and pill testing, or the Dutch Nat. drug prosecutor
supporting pill testing. And the dude that possibly took
5 pills and died most likely had DXM. Plus their was no
evidence given on ecstasy causing brain damage...All that
was shown was that overheating causes brain damage. Over-
heating is an effect of too much dancing/notenough water.
Even then, personally I think its not the E that causes
compulsive dancing (whatever that may be) but rather
speed that the E is mixed with. When I am rolling on
good MDMA, I can barely stand up, much less dance.
-sky
\_ You're just fucking whacked.
\_ You don't the half of it -sky
\_ Don't want to, either.
\_ update: emanuel is no longer my arch-nemisis. He asked my gf
back as ba director and blames switching from paxil to another
anti-depresant causing his OCD to flare up. -sky
\_ MDMA has been shown to cause permanent physical changes to
brain matter. (unlike many other drugs out there) Is this
damage? Well, it's not what nature intended, and I would
find it hard to believe that these changes would be for the
better. Simply because the piece didn't cite the evidence
doesn't mean it isn't there.
\_ The evidence is unclear with regards to normal usage
patterns -- the evidence for damage which I've seen used
either large or repeated doses. 60 minutes claimed
there's evidence that suggests permenant (discernable)
differences after a single dose, which contradicts the
studies which i've seen.
In addition, there is significant evidence that using
SRIs (prozac, zoloft, etc) 3-6 hours after dosing
can prevent damage. I've also read one study
\_ Heh, do you use SRIs when you take MDMA? Have
you ever seen people take SRIs after taking
MDMA? What is the optimum time frame vs. dosage
to take to avoid damage? This is all way to
experimental and the consequences too dire for
the average Joe messed up enough to actually
be in the drug scene to be playing with.
\_ I try to take prozac within 6 hours of dropping.
20 milligrams is best for most ppl. It depends
on how much u dropped and how regularly you do
mdma. --sky
\_ I have seen people using SRIs after using
MDMA. I wouldn't (and don't) say that
this makes it *safe* -- but I do believe,
based on the current evidence, that it is
likely to make it safer. Given that the
people I talk with about this are already
using MDMA on a regular basis, I don't
see any harm which can come from suggesting
that they try measures which appear --
based on current scientific evidence --
to be helpful.
The useful timeframe is 3-6 hours after
dosing. In animal studies, this prevents
all toxicity.
So far, there is little evidence of dire
consequences in terms of behavior or other
areas. New studies may change that, though;
I have seen individual case histories
where extremely high doses may have been
related to *serious* problems. I always
tell people not to do high doses.
indicating that only one of the two isomers is the one
responsible for the neurotoxicity -- I don't think
it's easy or cheap to produce just one isomer, but it
might be possible given sufficient economic incentive.
Anyway, these suggest that if MDMA were legal, it
\_ Uh, hello logic? How does this suggest anything
of the sort?
\_ Simple. Chemically it seems that it may be
possible to have the high without
neurotoxicity. If it were legal, I think
there'd be quite an incentive to provide
it in form which wouldn't be neurotoxic.
Right now, there isn't.
might well be possible to make it much less harmful
(beyond the simple measure of making sure it isn't
mixed w/ DXM, etc.).
MDMA may well be harmful even with low and infrequent
doses -- it is certainly possible, and caution is in
order -- but alarmism is no better than blindly
ignoring evidence of danger.
I have some references available, btw -- I believe in
providing information about this, since there are real
dangers which users should be made aware of. I think
that providing false information will make users ignore
the very real dangers. -- kurtz
\_ What false information are you referring to here?
Some studies have shown neurological changes
after a single dose. Perhaps these studies were
flawed, but who knows? The point is that MDMA
\_ Reference, please? I'd like to see the study
which demonstrates long term neurological
changes after a single dose. I can
find you a study which shows no observable
differences whatsoever after a single dose.
\_ OK I'll call your bluff. Can you please
show me that study that shows no observable
differences after a single dose. - tpc
is a neurotoxin and that message is not out there.
People are making irreversible changes to their
brains and they can't know what the consequences
will be. (I believe studies are showing no
recovery in the affected tissue 7 years out
at this point)
\_ What studies are you referring to? That a TV
news magazine airs a soundbyte saying that
"Studies have shown that a single does of
MDMA can cause brain damage" is pretty weak
proof. Show me the study(ies).
\_ A study by George Ricuarte of John Hopkins
found that in lab rats and 2 human subjects
that MDMA can cause long term damage to the
terminals of seratonin-releasing nerves.
Keeping the rats body temps down protected
them from the neurotoxicity. Some ppl think
that in the presence of MDMA, the super oxide
and hydroxy radicals combine with extra
seratonin and when this molecule is neurotoxic
when reabsorbed into the cell. Heat speeds up
this reaction. SRI's are absorbed into the
cells instead of these molecules which is one
explanation why SRIs help prevent nerve
damage. --sky
\_ There was a Navy study that proved
using the Dvorak keyboard users could
see significantly more productivity. - tpc
\_ Hence, the need to see the study. If
you actually read the Dvorak studies,
it's pretty clear that a) they used
flawed methodology, and b) The dude
conducting the study had a vested
interest in it going the way it did.
\_ The message is definitely out there -- the
media always refers ecstacy it as a drug
associated with potentially serious
neurotoxicity. But the way it's being presented
is ineffective -- IMO because it is not a
balanced treatment. (How could it be, given
that it's intended as a scare tactic?)
\_ I don't really care if users ignore the real
dangers. Sometimes dead is better. A state
sponsored cremation and dumping is cheaper for
society than having these wastoids walking around.
\_ there was a man in Germany who was really Austrian
who was trying to do what you were saying.
\_ MDMA is closely related to methamphetamines (chemically
speaking, MDMA can be derived from some methamphetamines,
iirc) -- it causes the release of two of the same
neurotransmitters (dopamine and norepinephrine), so
it will have some of the same effects.
\_ MDMA causes the release of seratonin and
dopamine. The level of dopamine released is
insignificant in comparison to the amount
released by methamphetamine. Meth also causes
an increase in endorphin (adrenalin/
norepinephrine) production, which doesn't occur
with MDMA. Dopamine causes the euphoric feeling
associated with crystal, while endorphin
accounts for the increased level of energy.
--sky
\_ Um, you've got dopamine and endorphins
mixed up (endorphins cause euphoria,
dopamine causes 'energy', ie. it is a
stimulant). I don't know about the
relative amounts, but the papers I've
read suggest they're not insignificant.
Btw -- MDMA does also cause the release of
norepinephrine. But speed doesn't trigger
the release of endorphins -- heroin does.
Some info about amphetamines:
<DEAD>www.pharmcentral.com/stimulants.htm<DEAD>
Some info about norepinephrine & MDMA:
http://www.doitnow.org/pages/360.html
\_ Fuckin' a, man. I just drink beer. It's easier. If somebody tells
me "beer is bad for you", I just say "okay". I don't have to get a
graduate degree in biochemistry to argue with people why beer might
just *possibly* be more or less worse for me if I drink it at a
certain body temperature while using a combination of other drugs.
Like, mellow out, everyone.
\_ "Beer: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."
-- Homer Simpson
Wow. A whole *herd* of emacs users must have been here. |
| 2000/4/17 [Computer, Health/Women] UID:18025 Activity:high |
4/16 http://www.well.com/user/freedom/harass.html \_ What's this about? Why do you want to spread this woman hating filth? You want to go back to the "good old days" when women were just secretaries, nurses, and prostitutes? Whistling on the streets from construction workers? This is ridiculous! \_ trollP \_ No. I'm serious. \_ ok, then what the hell about that webpage implies that the poster wants to spread woman hating filth? |
| 2000/2/1 [Health/Women] UID:17392 Activity:low |
1/31 My lover told me, well, that she's bi
I wanted to scream, there were tears in my eyes
She said baby, baby, don't you cry
'Cause the one I am with, you've been seeing on the side
\_ Are you the original author? It's good. |
| 2000/1/28 [Health/Women] UID:17359 Activity:high |
1/27 Catherine Zeta Jones pregnant. Sorry boys. The show is over.
\_ your mom being pregnant certainly didn't thwart me. -#1 fucker
\_ But soon CZJ will look about as good as yermom.
\_ You forgot that the father is TOM! |
| 1999/9/17-18 [Health/Men, Health/Women] UID:16540 Activity:very high |
9/16 What's the best way to lose the fat that accumulates around your
lower abdomen? (results of a desk job) I've been doing a lot of
sit-ups but they don't seem to be working. Except for this ring of
fat, I'm pretty fit otherwise. I heard that after a man reaches
a certain age, there is just no way to get rid of that through
exercise, no liposuction. Is that true? Thanks.
\_ Use ssh instead of rsh.
energy, fat from all over your body gets used, not just in
\_ You can't spot train fat like you can muscle. If you expend
the area where your muscles are working. Doing situps will
\_ so your answer is? Just do plain exercise and hope that the
fat around your abs goes away?
just increase the muscle density in your abs.
\_ a lot of it collects around the sides. So you have to do things
that work the "obliques", I guess. eg: twisty situps?
diligently. Do a lot of crunches, but don't only do crunches.
Watch your diet as well. I've seen people get rid of it, but
you must be patient. It seems to take 1-2 years of serious
training to be rid of it. By that time, the rest of you is
\_ You can get rid of it, but it's difficult. You need to work out
\_ How much is your ref. bonus?
very lean and muscular, too. Consider it an added bonus. --dim
\_If you train seriously, it won't take 1-2 years. Probably 12-16
weeks. But it also means keeping a pretty strict diet. I.e. no
\_If you train seriously, it won't take 1-2 years. Probably 12-16
\-resistance training buiilding muscles + protein fuel
donuts, chips, soda, jack-in-the-box, etc
builds muscles. you lose fat by extercising and dieting.
these are two different programs. --psb
donuts, chips, soda, jack-in-the-box, etc
\_ I guess it depends on how fat the person is to begin with. I
\_ I guess my wife is a man then. her thighs are fine, but
she has a tractor tire around her gut.
I know two people who did it. The
think 12-16 weeks is very optimistic, though. That is the
hardest place for many men to lose weight. It's akin to
thighs/hips for women. I know two people who did it. The
first one did it in one year by working out rigorously. The
thighs/hips for women.
other person adopted a less rigorous approach and it took
think 12-16 weeks is very optimistic, though. That is the
\_ Wanna get rid of 20 lbs of ugly fat real fast? Go in for a
decapitation.
\_ Fat Whacker!
longer. It's anecdotal evidence, of course, so YMMV. --dim
\_ RIDE BIKE
\_ Bless you! Lynx with SSL rocks.
\_ SMACK!!!!!! |
| 1999/6/23 [Health/Women] UID:16008 Activity:nil |
6/22 Is a female a lot more or a lot less likely to become
pregnant directly before or after her period?
\_ Who cares. Use a comdom and don't take the risk. |
| 1999/2/5-6 [Recreation/Dating, Health/Women] UID:15362 Activity:insanely high |
2/4 This is not a troll/flame bait... I'm just too embarrased to ask this
in person. If Orthotricycline and other "pills" are 99.9% effective,
does that mean it is 99.9% effective when you shoot "it" in,
or 99.9% effective when you pull out?
\_ No. Means, over a year, 0.1% of the couples using
this contraceptive will get pregnant.
\_ So it means over a period of say 30 years,
approx. 3% of the couples will get pregnant,
right? I hope it can be lower.
\_ You want lower that that for the long
of a time one of you should go under the
knife.
\_ But shouldn't that percentage also depend on how
many times the average couple do it in one year?
What's the average number of times then?
\_ Your asking for sex advice on soda? pwahahaahah.
\_ send all bug reports on the new linux kernel to http://www.playboy.com
\_ You're ignorance is showing.
\_ Not as badly as YOUR ignorance of English.
\_ Your irony is lacking.
\_ Your stupid, you know that?
\_ Oh I'm sorry. I forgot that most sodans are geeks by day
and major studs by night.
\_ Like from the movie, geeks only think about sex.
\_ 99.9% effective when you come inside her. That is the great
thing about oral contraceptives, you can come in her all you
want, and she will not get pregnant. Of course, if you are like me,
\_ ...so if you have sex 1000 times, on average she will get
pregnant once.
\_ No. Means, over a year, 0.1% of the couples using
this contraceptive will get pregnant.
and have been spoiled by women who use oral contraceptives,
you can never go back to using condoms. Such is life.
\_ So how do you convince your wife to switch to the pill? thanks
\_ convince her that all those health warnings are lies,
\_ If you smoke, the pill kills. Otherwise it's
\_ Um, the cigarette part of that combination
is sort of unhealthy as well.
a tossup if it kills more than abortions/childbirth
caused by not using the pill, and some women lowers
risk of cancer.
\_ It isn't a tossup. The pill is by far the
safest way to have sex. A failed condom which
causes a pregnancy which causes health problems
is more likely than similar health problems from
the pill. The figures are available from
Planned Parenthood (and probably elsewhere).
and she didn't want children any time soon.
It can take months to wear off, and there are different
kinds of pills. Some may work well, while others might
have side effects.
Oh, and also convince her that she would LOVE to spend
an hour getting squick out of her insides.
\_ Ah yes, the angry tone of a woman who had sex with someone
she shouldn't have. Obviously it was his fault that sex
is yucky and dangerous. Men are evil, etc, etc.
\_ and if yer a stud you'd pull out just like the porn stars do
\_ Yeah and all the porn whores are on the pill.
\_ so what is the .1% measuring? yearly chance she becomes pregnnt
anyway, or chance each time?
\_ Yearly % as an average over some number of couples. --dim
\_ the people who lie and say they used it right, when they didn't.
\_ BINGO! There is no proof whatsoever that the pill has
_ever_ failed a couple who actually _used_ it. Using it
when she feels like it or remembers doesn't count.
Dropping the extra pills in the toilet or simply lying to
her dumb bf/husband b/c she wanted to stick him with a kid
doesn't count either.
\_ You are a moron.
\_ Troll replies deleted. Thanks for the answer!
\_idiot. You deleted some important non-troll ones. Go read
the link below that someone thoughfully provided.
\_ http://www.plannedparenthood.org/BIRTH-CONTROL/CONTRACHOICES.HTM |
| 1998/10/15 [Health/Women] UID:14776 Activity:high |
10/14 Just gimme the naya BABY!
Just give me yer mom, BABY!
\_ but... you haven't exercised in two years... |
| 1998/6/22-23 [Recreation/Sports, Health/Women] UID:14232 Activity:moderate |
6/21 soda loser: "I am less of a dysfunctional corporate slave
because I like soccer. How about you?"
\_ IRAN RULES, BABY!! --azarm
\_ Because of Iran's victory, the guy at Bongo Burger is
giving out free humus to everyone who comes in and
says Allah three times. wombat
\_ long live the revolutionary-guards/komiteh
\_ It's more like "Team USA sucks, baby!!" |
| 1998/4/14 [Health/Women] UID:13953 Activity:nil 54%like:13982 |
4/14 Can students get condoms at a discount at the student health service?
\_ Yes. They offer condoms for about $.80 each.
\_ Not only that, you can get women to _say_ they have slept with
you too, and provide you with _used_ condoms to prove it!! |
| 1998/3/2-4 [Health/Dental, Health/Women] UID:13745 Activity:very high |
3/01 This is a serious question, please don't erase it. My mother is about
55, and I would like to get her health insurance and such. I personally
have Aetna Medium PPO, which my company pays at 100%. However, since
my company doesn't pay for my mother (yes, no company would) I would
have to pay out of my personal expense. What is a good health plan for
my mother that is affordable? THANKS!!!
\_ Send the bitch to work.
\_ FHP, BlueShield, Kaiser all have pretty affordable plans. but
at least $300+/month.
\_ funny, I thought the "individual plan" for kaiser topped
out at around $200/month. But you have to be initially
\- getting health insurance for one is going to be pretty expensive
due to adverse selection due to information asymmetry. --psb
\_ This makes absolutely no sense.
\"this doesnt make sense" != "i dont understand you"
\_ That is correct. What PSB said makes perfect
sense and is correct. (However, it is unlikely
to communicate any valuable info to anyone since
the vast majority of people who would/will
understand it already do.)
-PSB fan #1026 (aka crebbs)
\_ Are you saying that insurance for one person is more than if
you have two combined? No shit. You don't have to word it
like a fuckin' lawyer. FUCK YOU PSB. YOU CAN SUCK MY DICK.
\_ Wow. Can Dave suck your dick too?
\_ was not worded like a lawyer....rather an economist
\_'Yer mother' barbs now center around information theory.
Is this bad or good?
physically okay to get in.
\_There are plenty of Asian companies that do in fact treat
parents as dependents in this respect. It's just our morally
bankrupt society that assumes its younger workers will neglect
their aging parents -TEC
\_ There are plenty of Asian companies that do in fact treat female
employees like garbage in all respects. It's just their morally
bankrupt society that assumes its female workers will accept
this form of abuse forever. -anti-TEC
[anti-Asian trash nuked]
\_ There are plenty of Asian companies that do in fact treat
females as total garbage in all respects. It's just their
morally bankrupt society that assumes its females are
worthless subhumans deserving no better treatment.
[go ahead, keep deleting this you hypocrite. I have it on
file and will keep restoring it as long as your pro-asian
bullshit myths are there. If I lie, refute me. Don't be
a pansy coward and just delete it. Find some third world
oppressor state if you want hardcore censorship instead of
debate.]
\_ Watch who you are calling a hypocrite, woman. I am
not the person who was deleting your response. -TEC
Note: although i have never engaged in it, deleting
the MOTD.pub hardly qualifies as *hardcore* censorship
\_ The entire motd was not deleted. Just my comments.
Wiping the whole motd every few days is an act of
kindness to us all. Selectively deleting comments
one disagrees with, whether they are true or not, is
censorship. Hardcore is a subjective term. Although
the scale is small, the repeated selective deletion
is extreme. If this were a newspaper instead of the
motd, most would consider that sort of thought purge
and squelching of public debate to be hardcore. Also,
and squelching of public debate to be hardcore.
\_ And if this were a public monument, instead of the
motd, and your worthy words were carved in granite,
and I removed them by means of powerful acid and
shaped explosive charges, most people would gasp at
my sociopathic vandalism. I'm not disagreeing with
your original comments, I'm just saying that I find
it consistently amazing how people will foam at the
mouth and use strange overreaching analogies when
it comes to an essentially trivial thing like the
motd.
\_ The loss of free expression (especially something
innocuous such as the motd) is a loss to everyone.
Preventing the free flow of ideas through any
medium, no matter how minor, is a breach of all
our rights. Little things count. If you allow
the chipping away at basic freedoms in little
ways, what is to stop the loss at a greater level?
IE: I trust you don't want your newspapers to be
censored, but is it ok to censor a college rag or
\_ There are some people here who want to do that;
they don't think that the Daily Cal should be
entitled to be read unless it agrees with them.
HS newsletter? Where do you draw the line? I
don't feel it's ok to draw such a line and say
some forms of censorship are ok because the target
doesn't reach a great many people.
Also,
I was not assuming that you, TEC, did the deleting.
You should avoid assuming I'm a woman just because I
find the treatment of women in many countries to be
detestable.
\_ oh shut up and go away
\_ I'm stunned into silence by your sharp wit and
over abundant cleverness. You're a Cal student?
\_ oh shut up and go away
- another person
\_ what do you consider "affordable"?
\_ Since your mom is probabaly not a dependant, you should try to
inquire directly to an HMO about signing up. You should also try
to see if your mom belongs to any groups that might offer medical
insurance.
\_ Move to a country that has half a clue about what to charge
for health care. Sure, we have all the latest research and
what not here, but that means absolute shit when you consider
that bureaucracy and greed appears to drive the health care
"industry." |
| 1998/2/1-3/20 [Health/Women] UID:13602 Activity:high |
3/20 Asian fetish taken to new heights of stupidity.
http://www.uriel.net/~dongyang/asian_smoke1.html
"I only have two pictures of shina smoking when she was pregnant and
you can visibily see that she is pregnant. So they here they are. ..."
this was motd listing back from january. just found it today
while cleaning up. i admit its kinda weird.
\_ Yeah its stupid but if you find this sort of thing so
bothersome why do you surf for it? |
| 1996/11/4 [Health, Health/Women] UID:31986 Activity:nil |
11/3 Hi, I'm too embarrased to ask the local pharmacist, but...
I've been to different pharmacys and couldn't find any
contraceptive pills. Where the heck are they located? I've always
thought they're off the counter.
\_ "the pill" is not OTC medicine. visit your doctor or Planned
Parenthood. if you're too embarrassed to do that, you're not
mature enough for sex. --aaron
\_ Thank you, Dr. Ruth.
\_ Way to be sensitive, aaron! ":/( --joeking
\_ Listen...don't listen to people putting you down like that.
The bottomline is that you need a place that will provide
you counseling and information on the Pill. It's a big
decision to make, one reason it's not an OTC medication.
Although Tang is _not_ the most highly reputed medical center,
it has a fairly good women's clinic. In order to get a prescription
for the Pill, you need to be examined by a medical professional
who can then talk with you and decide on the best birth
control pill for your body (yes, there are several different
kinds of birth control pills out there). Make an appt
at Tang Center, Planned Parenthood, or your ob/gyn. --christine
\_ Tang's a pieceashit. They charged me for condoms that I
bought for my house. A lot. I got some pretty hilarious
looks in the pharmacy waiting room when the counter guy heaped
a couple hundred of them on the counter for me, though. -John
\_ There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Comdom -ausman
\_ Or you could by them at your local drug store for three
times the price. Would you rather deal with that?
\_ "The Pill" can have nasty side effects, especially if you smoke,
so they require you to talk to a doctor first to make sure it's
not going to kill you. (The odds of it doing so are slim, but
with as many millions of people as take it, that would end up
being a couple thousand dead people a year.)
\_ PLEASE STOP -- the notion of soda geeks having sex is just too
revolting ! :) :)
\_ Welcome to 1996.
\_ We are breeding like bunnies as part of our plan to
take over the world!
\_ If you are too embarrassed to go to Tang, Planned Parenthood
will give you good, supportive, contraceptive services on a sliding
fee scale. -ausman |
| 1995/1/21 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix, Health/Women] UID:31725 Activity:nil |
1/20 Do not ask to be blown by root. Rumours of us rendering such
favors to account holders are highly exaggerated.
\_ Blow me.
\_ mail whoeveryouare < prostitute
\_ Rumor not exaggerated, but we need more women on CSUA staff.
/ \_ This isn't the way to get them...
| \_ It's a better way to scare them off.
\_ this pungent tang of feminism confirms a musing I had
about how a feminist with insight is not a feminist
at all, but I won't get into it here.
\_ What makes you think this display of tast
and maturity only disgusts women?
\_ I'm sure that's the intent, o wise visionary.
\_ Men give *way* better head than women.
\_ You just haven't met the right women. Or maybe you've just met
exceptional men.
\_ You obviously don't understand what I am talking about.
\_ Rumor has it that ali gives good head.
\_ not as good as partha (sorry, ali)
\_ With a name like Banerjee, you know it has to be good |
| 11/22 |