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2019/04/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2012/12/26-2013/1/24 [Health/Sleeping, Health/Skin] UID:54569 Activity:nil
12/26   "Duh! 12 Obvious Science Findings of 2012":
        Are researches like these driving up college tuition?
           \_ WTF!!??
2019/04/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2012/2/8-14 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Health/Skin] UID:54302 Activity:low
2/8     wtf, 13 year old implanted at school without parent's consent: (telegraph) -phuqm
        \_ This is what liberals have done to England. If you re-elect
           Obama, you can expect forced contraception and steralization
           Obama, you can expect forced contraception and sterilization
           in America too.
            \_ Right, 'cause Romney would never do anything similar to Obama
               Anyway, don't worry, that won't come to America
                in the next 4 years.  Given longer on the other hand I wouldn't
                be willing to bet my first born. -phuqm
                (also, this wasn't forced unless you want to invoke legalisms)
        \_ Nowhere in this article mentions STDs.
            \_ That's because the article is an apologia for the actions taken
               and talking about STDs would be yet another (as if more were
               needed) argument against the insanity of implanting 13 year
               old girls with contraceptives at school without parental
               consent. -phuqm
               \_ Fair enough.  Thx.  -- PP
        \_ "In some cases, this may include access to contraceptive implants
             from an appropriately qualified professional working within strict
             legal protocols."
             all is quite legitimate, nothing to see here, move along.
             \_ s/legitimate/legal/g.  E.g. staring at hot chicks on the
                streets while walking with your wife is legal, not legitimate.
                 \_ but if you are a Doctor and you tell your wife you thought
                    you noticed an interesting skin condition as a DOCTOR
                    (i.e. "an appropriately qualified professional) you are
                    attempting to legitamize your actions.
                    (also, i'm married not BLIND, wtf, give me a break)
2009/3/19-23 [Health/Skin] UID:52736 Activity:moderate
3/19    "When It Comes To Shampoo, Less Is More"
        "(dermatologist) recommends that patients wash their hair no more than
        two or three times a week."
        \_ Be a true geek and wash it 2x a year.
        \_ Headline on that page says Eco-Conscious 'No-'Poo' Movement
           \_ I think that guy a few blocks down in the motd should talk to you
        \_ I only use shampoo twice a week, unless I really get sweaty or
           something. I have been doing this for years, ever since my
           hairdresser recommended it. My hair is much happier that way.
           I run warm water through it every day though.
           \_ If I don't wash my hair my scalp itches like crazy, even
              if I "wash it" with just water or sometimes even with just
              conditioner. No problem if I use shampoo, though, and it
              doesn't matter too much which shampoo except for the really
              cheap ones that smell like dishwashing liquid.
              \_ I use shampoo every three days.  If I go for four days, it
                 always gets itchy on the fourth day and it's very consisitent.
                 So I go for three days.  -- OP
2008/11/18-23 [Health/Skin, Health/Men, Health/Disease/General] UID:52032 Activity:nil
11/18   what the heck has Pierce Brosnan been feeding his wife?
        \_ lulz
2008/6/27-29 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Health/Skin] UID:50406 Activity:low 66%like:50412
6/27    I have a bunch of books I want to sell. Should I sell on
        \_ I haven't had any problems with Amazon.
2008/6/25-30 [Health/Skin, Politics/Domestic/911] UID:50375 Activity:nil
6/25    Justice Kennedy is a waste of skin.  His opinion today that child rape
        can never be punished by the death penalty is just more proof of that.
        The particular details of the case are heinous.
        \_ Nice troll you got there, come here often?
        \_ While I understand the desire to take the perp out back and shoot
           him (believe me, I'd load the gun), preferably after the son of a
           bitch is repeatedly raped by a rabid hyena, the death penalty is
           the ultimate punishment available to the state. In designing a
           system that recognizes that quality, we have to set standards
           appropriate to the severity of the punishment; life for life is
           one of the clearest criteria we can set for this. To make exceptions
           even in heinous, horrible, horrific cases like this is to invite
           instability. If we apply death penalty in this case, why not in
           the case of adult rape? Where do we then re-draw the line?
           Kennedy's opinions in this case reveal a streak of strict
           constitutionalism such as we would expect to see from so-called
           strict constitutionalists like Scalia.
                \_ Originalist
           \_ "Proportionality" has nothing to do with curel and unusual.
              You're making a legislative argument, not a judicial one.
              Besides, I thought you lefties hated "slippery slope" arguments. -op
              Besides, I thought you lefties hated "slippery slope" arguments.
           \_ At 9:18 a.m. on March 2, 1998, petitioner called 911 to report
              that his stepdaughter, referred to here as L. H., had been raped.
                He told the 911 operator that L. H. had been in the garage
              while he readied his son for school. Upon hearing loud screaming,
              petitioner said, he ran outside and found L. H. in the side yard.
              Two neighborhood boys, petitioner told the operator, had dragged
              L. H. from the garage to the yard, pushed her down, and raped
              her. Petitioner claimed he saw one of the boys riding away on a
              blue 10-speed bicycle.
                When police arrived at petitioner.s home between 9:20 and 9:30
              a.m., they found L. H. on her bed, wearing a T-shirt and wrapped
              in a bloody blanket. She was bleeding profusely from the vaginal
              area. Petitioner told police he had carried her from the yard to
              the bathtub and then to the bed. Consistent with this
              explanation, police found a thin line of blood drops in the
              garage on the way to the house and then up the stairs.  Once in
              the bedroom, petitioner had used a basin of water and a cloth to
              wipe blood from the victim. This later prevented medical
              personnel from collecting a reliable DNA sample.
                L. H. was transported to the Children.s Hospital. An expert in
              pediatric forensic medicine testified that L. H..s injuries were
              the most severe he had seen from a sexual assault in his four
              years of practice. A laceration to the left wall of the vagina
              had separated her cervix from the back of her vagina, causing her
              rectum to protrude into the vaginal structure. Her entire
              perineum was torn from the posterior fourchette to the anus. The
              injuries required emergency surgery.
              \_ See the part where I agree with you that the guy oughta be
                 shot, right after being raped by rabid hyenas. Still not a
                 basis for a legal system.
                 \_ See, the revenge raping isn't.  Execution is.
                    \_ How do you codify it? Where do you draw the line?
                       \_ That's what legisaltors do, not judges.  See, you
                          draw the line where legislators draw the line.
                          \_ Actually, the constitution did that, where it
                             talks about cruel and unusual punishment.
                             \_ Ah, so you're an idiot with circular reasoning.
                                Go stick your head in a pig.
                                \_ And you obviously have no opinion that you
                                   didn't get from Rush. Goodbye, dittohead.
                                   \_ Uh, I don't listen to Limbaugh.  You want
                                      to try again?
                                      \_ I should bother... why?
2008/2/25-26 [Health/Skin] UID:49237 Activity:nil
2/24    groin pimple update:
        still there!  hasnt burst!  been over a week!  doesn't
        seem like herpes!  dunno what the hell it is then.  it's
        not a wart.  stupid body.
        \_ MRSA (google this.)
        \_ Syphilis chancre
        \_ cancer
        \_ molluscum
        \_ pimple
        \_ GRIDS
        \_ Visit medical doctor.
2008/2/21-25 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Skin] UID:49209 Activity:nil
2/21    There is a sore on my groin.  Is it herpes?
        \_ If you bike a lot, it'll go away.
        \_ I am pretty sure that no one licensed to practice medicine posts
           to the motd. Go see a doctor.
           \_ I think there is one.
        \_ There are a lot of things it could be.  It probably isn't herpes,
           but you should definitely get the sore examined before it goes away
           to be sure.  If you don't have insurance, there are plenty of free
           clinics that offer this service.
           \_ i thought herpes gave you this IMMEDIATE FIERY WHITE SORE
              ON THE SUBWAY, but my symptom is this little annoying bump.
              No fluid (yet).  No scab (yet).  Just sitting there.
              I don't know what it is.
              \_ Sheesh.  calm down dude.  It's not AIDS
              \_ You have smallpox.  No big deal.
              \_ smallpox guy nuked my post, but anyway... you could have
                 which isn't really that big of a deal.  You might have
                 genital warts.  You might have a couple of other dozen
                 things.  You might even have herpes, which has enormous
                 variability in symptoms.  Mostly, you need to get yourself
                 to the clinic and stop ranting on the motd.  You'll be
                 fine.  Get a hold of yourself.
                 \_ Woah thats gnarly.
                    \_ What, molluscum?  Nah.  Clinics don't even bother
                       to treat it, since it has no ill health effects,
                       causes no pain or irritation, and tends to
                       go away on its own without recurrence.  There's
                       also no evidence that condoms do much to help
                       prevent its spread, since it can be transmitted just
                       by skin contact.  If he has it and he's really freaked
                       out about it, he can get a doctor to freeze the bump(s)
                 \_ I used to have this on my lower body (from stomach down)
                    for more than ten years.  It came and went by itself.
                    Neither betadine nor permangenate helped.  Then it
                    mysteriously stopped a few years ago, and I have no idea
                    \_ Yeah, it's an odd one.  Children get it on their faces
                       a lot as well.  Essentially the virus is in the papule,
                       and contact spreads it.  The reason it came and went
                       is that molluscum has a high tendency to "self-infect"
                       - i.e., you rub the bump on your lower stomach, then
                       rub some other part of your stomach and pretty soon
                       you've got two bumps.  And like you said, it just seems
                       to go away by itself.  This isn't the same mechanism
                       as herpes recurrence, however.
                \_ My symptoms do not look like
                   but the 'weird pimple shows up once, then another a few weeks
                   later' bit does.
                   but the 'weird pimple shows up once, then another a few
                   weeks later' bit does.
                   \_ You sound like you have molluscum for sure.  You should
                      get a doctor to check it out, and maybe freeze the bumps
                      off if you're really concerned.
        \_ Sounds like syphilis to me.
        \_ key word: usually
2007/6/1-5 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Skin] UID:46832 Activity:nil
6/1     Some stuff worth knowing for your next expedition to Africa.
        \_ "An Ostrich may attack humans if they get too close to its
           nest. It does not help to run away, since one will never
           outrun it."
           I don't need to outrun the ostrich, I just need to outrun you.
        \_ Shouldn't the URL be
2007/3/14-17 [Health/Skin] UID:45966 Activity:nil
3/14    worst thing ever
2006/2/17-19 [Health/Skin] UID:41903 Activity:nil
2/17    Photo of Whittington.  Okay, the holes are from individual pieces of
        shot, but what about the dark red on his neck?
        \_ it's called "blood"
           \_ so you're saying the shot impacted but did not penetrate
              (shirt collar?), thus causing the bruising?
              \_ shots that penetrate can cause bruising, too.
                 \_ okay, I don't know anyone who's been hit with birdshot
                    before so I wouldn't know.  But look at his neck:
                    I count 3 holes, and for some reason there's a circle
                    of healthy-looking skin around each hole.  As for his face,
                    I see plenty of holes, but little bruising.
                    \_ There is substantial bruising. The yellowish
                       discoloration on his cheek leading to the neck is
                       evidence of bruising.  The "healthy circles" is
                       blistering where the settled blood from the bruising
                       has been forced out.
                       \_ probably suctioned out?  I see the yellow now too.
                          \_ Think more like a pimple or blister. The red
                             background makes it stand out more.
2006/2/7-9 [Health/Skin] UID:41756 Activity:moderate
2/7     Faces of meth
        \_ I didn't know meth made your face get scabs. Anyway the guy on the
           lower left looks exactly the same except longer hair. Haha.
           \_ The scabs are from falling down and walking into things.
              \_ no the scabs are from the fact taking speed all the time
                 makes you jumpy and nervous so you pick at your face a lot
                 \_ No, the wounds are because of the nasty chemicals in meth
                    escaping through your skin.  It also decalcifies your
                    \_ Uh, do you have a link for this?  This sounds like urban
                       legend bullshit.
                    \_ While I can't speak to chemicals escaping through your
                       skin and decalcifying bones, meth users I've known do
                       tend to break out quite a bit when they are on a
                       bender.  This may be caused by the chemicals once
                       consumed, or it may be caused from exposure to fumes,
                       which are corrosive, when smoking meth. -dans
        \_ Is there a difference between meth and speed, either in the drug
           itself or in the way it is intaked? What about crystal eth?
           \_ No, meth, speed, crystal, and crystal meth are all just
              different slang names for methamphetamine.  Meth can be taken in
              by insulfating (snorting), smoking, or injecting. -dans
              \_ Hmm, I was under the impression that crystal meth isn't
                 quite synonymous with meth -- a different form or a slight
                 variation on the chemical compound or something about purity.
              \_ Boy, dans sure does know a lot about meth!
                 \_ there's this new fangled thingy called 'the web'.  It
                    sometimes has lots of information on these other new
                    inventions called 'web pages'.
                 \_ Your bar for knowing a lot is pretty low.  Everything
                    stated above could be learned from any of:
                    - paying attention in your high school drug scare
                      education class
                    - obGoogle
                    - reading any of the materials published by the City of
                      San Francisco to combat the considerable abuse problem
                      that exists in SF
                    - knowing someone who habitually uses or has used meth
                    I enjoy learning about most subjects.  That doesn't change
                    because a subject might be taboo, dangerous, or looked
                    down on by society.  And I haven't even mentioned PnP.
                    Troll Harder. -dans
2006/1/18-20 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:41413 Activity:low
1/18    Pentagon plans to produce Mass Intestination weapon - danh
        \_ "deploying the weapon merely invites other nations to follow suit."
           Having already considered that, the Pentagoy has already secretly
           deployed a Code-Three classfied space-age anti-ADS hidden
           personnel defense system to all military bases throughout out
           country.  Next time when you visit a military base, don't say
           anything like "I can put these under my clothes" when you see the
           $2/roll of aluminum foils in the kitchens, or you'll be immediately
           $2/roll aluminum foils in the kitchens, or you'll be immediately
           arrested by the MP's and tossed into a torture chamber!
           \_ Is "pentagoy" a typo, or are you actually mocking the pentagon
              for their goyish ways?
              \_ Sorry.  Typo.
        \_ I guess I don't get it.  Is a pain gun worse than a lead pellet
           gun in some way?
           \_ Not to mention that it takes seconds to cause an effect.
           \_ Testing was conducted on heavily-screened "participants,"
              unlikely to represent an actual crowd in terms of health, age,
              discipline (i.e., moving away rapidly rather than freezing in
              pain), grouping (i.e., individuals with room to move rather than
              tightly packed mobs), and bling (i.e., having removed all metal
              objects prior to testing as opposed to having genital piercing
              and other objects that might heat up uncomfortably under the
              ray). Also, consider use of "pain ray" for traceless torture.
              I'm not saying it's worse, I'm just saying it's more complex.
2005/10/14-15 [Health/Men, Health/Skin] UID:40098 Activity:moderate
10/14   I'm not crazy about my electric razor, it tends to pull my hairs too
        much when I've got a couple daya growth.  Anyone have reccomendations?
        My only constraint is thta it must not be a slime-oozing model.
        \_ Badger-hair brush, exfoliant/shaving oil/shaving cream/aftershave
           from Art of Shaving, Gilette Mach 3 blade, shave under the shower.
           Cons:  $$$  Pro:  No more hamburger face.  -John
           \_ I haven't tried the other stuff, but I agree that the Mach 3
              is completely awesome. Well worth the money.
           \_ Can you describe the proper purpose and usage of those oils and
              aftershave and whatnot?
              \_ I've just found that this stuff, while pricey, works really
                 well for me, and I'm willing to pay for it to avoid the
                 agony and mess I usually get from shaving (pain hurts!).
                 Exfoliant:  gets rid of dead crap and cleans skin.  Oil:
                 Softens skin & beard before shaving.  Brush: lifts whiskers
                 so they're cut nicely.  Non-alcohol-based aftershave:  calms
                 skin down.  Hot water/steam: also softens skin.  Don't forget
                 to shave with the grain of your beard (usually towards your
                 chin), at least for the rough stuff, as otherwise you push
                 whiskers in.  This is stuff your dad should have taught you.
                 Another tip:  men's mags (GQ, Esquire, etc.) may be silly, but
                 occasionally there's some good advice regarding this sort of
                 thing.  -John
            \_ I've used a Mach3 w/ a badger brush before nad it works great
               but I'm lazy.  I should have specified Im asking about
               electrics. -OP
2005/9/23-27 [Health/Skin] UID:39835 Activity:kinda low
9/23    When I was younger I'd put Oxy-10 on my zits and they'd go away.
        But now most of my zits seem to come from deep inside the skin
        and Oxy-10 doesn't seem to work as well. Do other fancier
        topo creams work better? Spare me the diet part, I DO eat
        as much unprocessed food as possible, diet, exercise, etc.
        \_ Just out of curiosity, do you shave with a blade everyday?
           \_ No. Actually places I don't shave rarely get zits. -op
            \_ so places you do shave with a blade get zits ?
                \_ yer blade is unsterile
              \_ Don't shave against the grain of your hair. They sound
                 like shaving bumps. Do you have curly hair?
           \_ No. Actually places I DO shave rarely get zits.
              [sorry I meant to say the above, old line deleted]  -op
              \_ Ok, that matches my experience.  I was just curious.  You
                 probably don't want to start shaving your forehead. :P
                 (Or where ever said zits are appearing)  It suggests an
                 exfoliating wash might help though.
                 By the way the car asshole overwrote this post.
                 \_ Dear helpful Mormon dude with a hot wife and cute
                    children, I just bought St. Ive's exfoliator and
                    exfoliated my face for the first time in my entire
                    life, and HOLY SHIT my face hurts so much, it's like
                    someone sanded my face with sandpaper. Is this
                    actually normal?                            -op
                 \_ Hi, the places I shave don't get zits. However, I'm
                    a highly evolved East Asian and the percentage of my face
                    that needs to be shaved is very small anyways, hence
                    the probability of zits on my mustache is very small.
                    In fact the percentage of my face that needs to be
                    shaved is close to 1/3-1/4 of typical white men who
                    still seem to have many primitive ape features. So I
                    don't know what you're getting at but I don't think
                    shaving and exfoliating actually does anything
                    \_ why is the size of the area significant? you still
                       have the "ape features" in question. just because
                       you have a small dick doesn't mean you're not a man.
                    \_ No, you're not highly evolved.  You're a most
                       intelligently designed East Asian.  In fact I just
                       confirmed it with The Lord over lunch.
                    \_ Since you probably only shave your wimpy moustache
                       once a week, you won't get the desireable
                       exfoliating effects.
                 \_ THANK YOU! I'm going to buy exfoliators today. What
                    is a good brand? Thanks.
                    \_ Uhh... I don't know.  I just use what my wife buys.
                       Anyone else?
                       \_ Obviously, whatever she buys works well for you,
                          and may work for me. I need to find out. Can you
                          please email her? Better yet, can you give me her
                          phone number? And is she hot?
                          \_ Dude, the guy was trying to help out and
                             you want to hit on his wife?  I use L'Oreal's
                             facial wash with beads, works quite nice.
                             Look for the orange label.
        \_ der ma tolo gist
        \_ For me, I tend to break out whenever I have to use those liquid/
           facial soap(including Neutrogena.)  I just stick with using my bar
           soap and don't have any dry skin problems.
        \_ I'm not going to defend the Asian man for trying to assert
           his racial superiority but I just want to point out that
           in my country it is common to see teachers joking that the
           white men have yet fully evolved. They say things like when
           white men don't shave, they look very much like apes. And
           among other things, they say things like they're very horny,
           use looks and charm to deceive, act like barbarians, are
           stubborn, self righteous, resort to force when things don't
           go their way, etc. While much progress has been made on both
           sides in the past few decades in debunking this silly
           stereotype, your great President has once again revived the white
           ape stereotype. He seems to have all of the attributes
           I mentioned above.
           \_ Bill Clinton definitely fits in the "very horny" category
           \_ Aren't "horny" and "use looks and charm to deceive" true for men
              in all races?
              \_ No, because white people are particularly good looking.
                 (Not my argument, I just hear this a lot in Korea)
                 \_ Well, in most Asian countries, they either love whities,
                    or they really really really hate them. Obviously, you
                    married the former.
           \_ Which country did you come from?  I was born and raised in Hong
              Kong until 19, and I've never heard any of my teachers saying
              such things.  Although I've heard other people saying these in
              casual occasion.
           \_ Wait, if white men look like apes, and use looks to decieve,
              does that mean asians are attracted to apes!?!???
              \_ HAHA! :-)
              \_ You don't think our Ape in Command is sexy?
2005/8/26-29 [Health/Men, Health/Skin] UID:39298 Activity:nil 80%like:39653
8/26    hey ilyas i have a link for you - danh
        \_ Gee, I almost feel honored. -- ilyas
2005/3/2-3 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:36490 Activity:nil
3/2     I got a splinter in my finger about a month or 2 ago.  Since
        it wasn't particularly bothering me, I just ignored it.  It's
        still not particularly bothering me, but I can feel it when
        I put pressure on the exact spot of the splinter.  Since
        it's been almost 2 months, does that mean that it's moved
        deeper into my skin and will be difficult and/or painful
        to remove?  Is it advisable or silly to go to the doctor,
        have them numb it, and then remove it?
        \_ Pin, disinfect by holding over a lighter, shot of booze for the
           pain, start digging.  Minor risk of infection and finger falling
           off--be a real man and disregard.  -John
        \_ If it's not infected (and it doesn't sound like it is)
           then it's probably ok, and you don't need to see a doctor.
            \_ So if I do nothing, will it eventually dissolve, or will
               it just be deeper under my skin so I can't feel it,
               or will my finger just be a sensitive to pressure on
               that spot for the rest of my life? -op
        \_ if you have insurance just go to a dermatologist. they'll
           prob just take care of it in the office in like 5 minutes.
           if not, dont worry unless it gets infected discolored painful
        \_ I had a broken-off cactus needle embedded under my thumbnail
           for about 5 years before it finally disappeared.  I wouldn't
           worry yourself overmuch.
           \_ It worked its way into your heart or your brain now. That's
              why you can't see it.
2005/1/31-2/1 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Skin] UID:35997 Activity:nil
1/31    Which motd people are trolls and which are...porcupines? (
        \_ Man, I think I've been on the motd too long.  Their example of
           bad behavior sounds completely normal to me.
           \_ Agreed. More to the point, I find myself thinking that people
              who can't distill the essence from the blather are just as bad
              as the porcupines themselves. A sure sign I need to stop reading
              the motd.
2005/1/17-18 [Health/Skin] UID:35746 Activity:moderate
1/17    i have this big ass pimple by my ear that has been there
        for several months.  how do i get rid of it?  a lot of soap?
        should i boil a needle and pop it?
        \_ If there's a little dark spot in the center, it's an ingrown
           hair.  Ingrown hairs are harmless.  Tumors are not.  Have it
           checked out.
        \_ Several months?  Maybe it's not a pimple.
        \_ My prom date had a bump by her ear.  After 6-12 months she had it
           biopsied and it was a tumor of one of the glands.  She had it
           removed while under general anesthesia, didn't need to take chemo,
           and is fine today.  She's 31 today; that was ~ 5 years ago.
           \_ It's funny, because the way you worded this it sounds like
              you went to your prom when she was 26...
                                \_ You the mac. 18 year old taking a 26!
                                   \_ Heh, I don't think the prom and the
                                      discovery of the bump on her ear
                                      occurred during the same general
                                      time frame.
2004/11/6-7 [Health/Skin] UID:34724 Activity:very high
11/6    I'm in my 30s and I still have a lot of acne. Is this normal?
        At what age did you guys/gals start to see a diminish? -acne guy
        \_ The off the shelf acne wash from neutorgena actually works
           for me, though I still get some.  Also, try to avoid touching
           your face with your hands ... I find that I had a big reduction
           after eliminating habits like leaning my head on my hand.
        \_ For me, sometime mid-college. Go to your doctor and ask for
           Retin-A. It's not to harsh at all, but it's very effective
           (after about 6 weeks though of course). If your acne is
           more than just mild, you should get antibiotics; if it's
           super bad, bust out the big guns and get Accutane.
           \_ See a dermatolagist.  It may also have something to do with
              your diet.
              \_ Stress, lack of sleep, depression, etc...
           \_ see a Demonologist.
        \_ I've been told that eating greasy food, junk food, spicy
           food, chocolate, coffee, and other thing contribute to
           acne. In fact, I don't eat any of the above. I eat healthy
           food with a lot of grains and fiber, and I exercise
           at least once a week. None of the above works.       -op
                \_ Those are all myths that have been disproven over
                   the years, so don't believe them. Acne can come
                   and go at any age, so just go see a doctor for
                   any of those previously mentioned treatments.
           \_ I've alternately heard that a high-starch diet can do it.  In my
              experience the biggest diminishers were:  Getting to around age
              20, and washing my face daily.
           \_ My microbiology instructor told our class that acne is
            caused by a bacteria that feeds on the oils on skin.
              \_ I have less acne when I have less sex and take zinc
                 capsules.  Not a zinc joke.
                 \_ to reduce acne
                    have less sex and eat more zinc
                    motd health advice
                 \_ stop ugly acne
                    no sex no love this autumn
                    bathe yourself in zinc
        \_ Have you tried washing your face in urine?  This is a
           homeopathic remedy people have had alot of success with.
2004/10/29 [Health/Skin] UID:34424 Activity:high
10/29   Can anyone recommend a good dermatologist in the south bay or
        \_ Just wait until after nov 2nd, it'll be ok
        \_ Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters! - 555-2368
           \_ Somethin' strange ... in the neigh-bor-hood ...
        \_ why? need help? - turin
        \_ Dr. Recht (Sunnyvale) is excellent
           (I assume that was Dermatologist originally) - actual helpfulness
2004/8/31 [Health/Skin] UID:33250 Activity:moderate
8/30    Why would taking antibiotics help with acne? I mean, acne is
        just oil gland popping out right?               -acne guy
        \_ It's a sebaceus gland that gets clogged.  I think bacteria help to
           clog them.
           \_ Acne is a really bad reason to over-medicate with antibiotics.
              In general, antibiotics should be avoided unless absolutely
              neccessary, as their overuse decreases their effectiveness
              over time.
              \_ Agreed.  I think anti-bacterial soap should be banned from
                 general use.
                 \_ yeah, ban Clorine as well because it's anti-bacterial
                    \_ it's much more than anti-bacterial, it's anti-microbial.
                       \_ What's the difference?
                 \_ Heh.  Just in case you're not being deliberately obtuse,
                    anti-bacterial soap has nothing to do with antibiotics.
                    Are you familiar with the concepts of natural selection
                    and the process by which bacteria become resistant to
                    \_ Hmm, last I checked, anti-bacterial soap contains legal
                       amounts of antibiotics.
                       \_ I thought most antibacterial soaps used triclosan
                          as their active ingredient.
                          \_ Ah, sorry!  I was wrong!  But overuse of
                             antibacterial agents like triclosan also causes
                             "superbugs", just like overuse of antibiotics.
                             \_ "some scientists believe."
                                \_ What are you, the new york post?  If you keep
                                   exposing bacteria to nasty stuff they'll
                                   eventually work out a way to live with it.
                                   Or is it that you believe God wouldn't allow
                                   such a thing to happen?
                                   \_ obviously, you're wrong.  bacteria can't
                                      live in boiling water or alcohol or
                                      bleach, despite thousands of years of
                                      using this "nasty stuff" to kill
                                      \_ Bleach has been around for thousands
                                         of years?
                                      \_ There is a huge qualitative difference
                                         between, say, bleach, and an
                                         antibiotic.  Antibiotic-resistant
                                         strains of bacteria are rampant
                                         due to overuse of antibiotics.  Just
                                         wait and see how much fun we'll have
                                         when an antibiotic resistant
                                         chlamydia organism gets out into the
                                         \_ triclosan is not an antibiotic.
                                            \_ True, but it is also not bleach.
                                               Triclosan is weak enough that it
                                               is safe enough for humans.  You
                                               really don't want to be dousing
                                               your hands in bleach every time
                                               you use the bathroom do you?
                                               Okay, I've met some OCD victims
                                               that might try it, but really.
                                               See the post just below for more
                                               \_ crab fisherman use clorox
                                                  to clean their wounds.
                                                  that's because most
                                                  crab fisherman are insane.
                                      \_ Anything that kills 100% of bacteria
                                         will never cause resistance in them.
                                         If you repeated expose them to
                                         lowed amounts that only kill some
                                         (very hot water, diluted bleach or
                                         alcohol) you will eventually build up
                                         a resistance which will make it harder
                                         to kill as many with how water or
                                         dilute bleach or whatever, so you will
                                         have to increase the concentration or
                                         temperature or duration of exposure._
2004/8/12 [Health/Skin, Health/Disease/General] UID:32872 Activity:nil
8/12    Oh.  My.  God.
        \_ This is something I don't mind being purged (no pun, please god).
        \_ That's vile.  Someone been reading the cruel site of the day?  (It
           is, however, safe for work.)
        \_ Longer article, w/ quotes:
        \_ I guess some people wait until someone's almost dead before calling
           emergency services. Reminds me of the case of that guy whose head
           was rotting away and maggots were crawling on his brain and stuff.
2004/3/9-10 [Health/Skin] UID:12580 Activity:nil
3/9     Good Skin Guy, I've followed your advice and stopped drinking milk
        and I've shown marked improvements in complexion. Do you have any
        other tips?
        \_ Sorry, milk doesn't have anything to do with acne. It's
           just coincidental.
        \_ stop eating grease.
        \_ what do you wash your face w/ ? also, what shampotioner do you use?
           lastly, have you considered that acne medication that fucks w/ your
           liver (forgot the name)? --washes face w/ water, no soap.
           \_ hahah!!!  "Years of working 18-hour days and delivering 40
              babies a month led to a drastic weight gain."
        \_ 1. stop touching your face
           2. if you take showers in the morn, wash that pillow cover or
              start taking showers at night.
           3. change your bed sheets often.
2004/1/9-10 [Health/Dental, Health/Skin] UID:11732 Activity:high
1/9     motd poll--who is the most badass Doctor?  Add more as needed.
        (non Dr. Who posts deleted.)
        Jon Pertwee: .
        Tom Baker: .
        J: .
        Teeth: .
        Hook: .
        Phil: .
        NUNEZ (And fuck you for nuking it.): ...
        Doom: .
        Octagon: .
        Pepper: .
        Dean: .
        \_ My phone number is DOCTORB.  The B is for Bargain!
        Nick: .
        Dre: .
        Jon Pertwee: .
        Octagon: .
        Tom Baker: .
        J: .
        Teeth: .
        Hook: .
        Phil: .
        NUNEZ (And fuck you for nuking it.): ...
        \_ probably an overwrite
           \_ no. this was intended to be a Dr. Who flame war about which
              regeneration was the best. -op
              \_ In other words, you were trolling for flames from Dr. Who
                 fans, forgot to specify that you were only interested in
                 Drs. Who, and then deleted the postings that were relevant
                 to the question but not to your ambiguous intentions? And
                 I thought the motd censor was petty....
                 \_ I figured it was obvious because I capitalized "Doctor"
                    and because Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker were first on the
                    \_ Who? (No pun intended.)
        Doom: .
        Pepper: .
        Dean: ..
        Kevorkian: .
        Octagon: .
        \_ "Hello this is the offices of Dr. Octagon.
           If you have insurance or medical problems I'm here for you
           for any type of intestine surgery rectal rebuilding relocated
           saliva glands... and chimpanzee acne! And of course moose bumps.
           You can call 1 800PP51 DooDoo. I'm in your corner."
2003/10/8-9 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:10532 Activity:nil
10/8    Mystery blood clots killing the troops:
        \_ Clearly an evil Bushco Conspiracy(tm)!  Recall Bushco!
           \_ You do know that often military personnel will be subject
              to what amounts to involuntary, uncontrolled "trials" of
              new vaccines/medications.
              \_ Which always get into the press.  With 130k dudes walking
                 around in the heat in full battle gear downing MREs theres
                 going to be some bad things happening to some people.  We
                 already covered the conspiracy thing in this thread.
           \_ Fuck off brownshirt.
              \_ *laugh*  Whatever.  You're so lost.
           \_ Did you even read the article? It has nothing to do
              with the bush administration/politics.
              \_ Of course not.  Why would I read the url before adding my
                 comments?  It's the motd and it's got something to do with
                 the troops so I'm just getting to the point right away.  Sorry
                 if I ruined the buildup and lengthy trolling.
2003/3/17 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Skin] UID:27729 Activity:nil
3/17    An update on my skin.  :-)  Besides using my wife's skin care products,
        eating well and excercise has really helped also. I have this healthy
        pinkish glow to my cheeks and my lips are getting redder.  My skin
        SHINES!  Women at work at noticing me and striking up conversations
        with me.  Even the gay men are checking me out.  It's quite flattering.
        My wife thinks I'm the ultimate pretty boy now.  -guy with good skin
        \_ how's the sex with UCLA EE guy?
        \_ how's the sex with your gay coworkers?  Made any money in
           the Castro?  Enough to quit your day job and pay for AIDS drugs?
2002/7/11-12 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:25336 Activity:very high
7/11    I've varied my workout and I seem to be getting some results now.
        I've noticed that my muscles are getting bigger.  However, my total
        weight remains the same.  Anybody had that happen?  Muscle weighs
        more than fat, I could be losing fat but I doubt that's happening.
        what else could account for the fact that I'm getting stronger and
        bulkier while total body weight remains the same?  Thanks.
        \_ It's not unusual for people to gain muscle and yet *lose*
           weight. Why do you doubt you are losing fat? --dim
           \_ because I'm already at 8% body fat.  This is measured using
              one of those body fat machine.  I'm as lean as I can be.  :)
              \_ Those body fat machines overestimate if you are relatively
                 skinny.  Calipers plus coach are better.
                 \_ well ok.  I just thought there was a generic explanation
                    for something like this.  As long as I'm getting stronger
                    and bulkier I have no complains.
                \_ you don't want to go much below 8% body fat for males.
                   Not healthy.
                   \_ is there a scientific basis for this?  I'm vegetarian.
                      Since I stopped eating meat my workout has gotten a lot
                      more effective.  I don't have to waste energy sweating
                      off the fat and cholesterol.
                      \_ body fat refers to fat in your body not in food.
                      \_ well, for one thing, your brain and nerves are
                         sheathed in fat, and your brain is mostly fat.
                         For more info, do yer own googling.  But come on
                         it's common sense.  Extremes in any direction
                         are generally bad.
                         \_ Here is a URL which describes < 8% body fat
                            as being unhealthy.
                      \_ I have a friend with 7% body fat and his doctor
                         told him it is too low and bad for his skin.
        \_ Did you weight yourself one time before you go to bathroom but
           another time after?
           \_ this is *much* easier than installing a scale in your shitter
              if you want to know how heavy your turds are.
        \_ When you take steroids, you gain weight in the muscles, but lose
           weight when your sexual organs shrink. When you become a meathead
           your muscles also take up more blood flow, decreasing the blood
           your brains gets. Your brain grows smaller, hence weight
           (and intelligence) loss.
2002/5/13-14 [Health/Eyes, Health/Skin] UID:24806 Activity:high
5/13    Eyeliner wearing types out there, do you have a strong brand
        preference?  Is department store eyeliner significantly better than
        drug store eyeliner?  Thanks in advance.
        - Hasn't worn eyeliner since High School
        \_ different brands may smear easier than others.  i'd suggest
           starting with the cheap stuff and then if you have a problem with
           it staying put, move up to the better quality ones.  (what will
           work for you kinda depends on your skin type and eye geometry.
           just experiment.)  -tom
           \_ Damn, what an obvious troll.  tom stopped using eyeliner
              ever since the surgery,
              It runs too easily during any meg ryan film.
           \_ Seem to be having success with the L'Oreal long wear liquid,
              but I'm not too crazy about the applicator-- hard to get a
              decent thin line.  I'd still like to hear others' suggestions.
              - Original poster
           \_ Why do you think it is funny to sign someone elses name to
              a post? Tom hasn't logged in all day.
        \_ How common is it for males to wear eyeliners?
           \_ Among heavy metal fans and sysadmins it's fairly common.
                                         \_ You are making the generalization
                                            that most sysadmins are linux
                                            lusers and cosplayers. That is
                                            not entirely true.
              \_ WTF? First, are you saying heavy metal fans are fags?
                 And no, it's not common among sysadmins. You are crazy.
                 \_ No, are you saying wearing eye liner makes you a fag?
                 \_ Have you ever been to a KISS concert?
              \_ If it's so fucking common among sysadmins, why the hell
                 can't I get any recommendations out of the motd?
2001/11/14-15 [Health/Disease/General, Health/Skin] UID:23041 Activity:very high
11/14   What's the difference between a nurse practitioner (NP) and a
        doctor (MD)?  I'm covered by Kaiser, and when I call to make an
        appointment with a doctor, they gave me a nurse practitioner instead.
        \_ it sounds like your insureance plan is NP complete.
        \_ An NP is a nurse (BSN) with a two year Master's. An MD is a BA
           with a four year professional degree (MD). The MD then gets at
           least three years of professional apprenticeship (residency).
           An MD can do just about anything. An NP is pretty limited in
           what s/he can do, usually to prescribing the 100 most common
           drugs and simple procedures. If you just have a chest cold or
           need the pill, see an NP. If you have something serious, see
           an MD, if you can.
           \_ I see.  Is that how Kaiser keeps it costs down, by providing NP's
              instead of MD's for non-serious problems?  Last time I had
              sustained coughing I ended up seeing an NP.  This time I want to
              make an appt for physical and they also give me an NP.
              \_ Yeah, this is how they keep costs down. Of course, school
                 isn't everything, so the quality of care you recieve
                 depends on the individuals competence and experience
                 more than on what letters they put after their name.
                 \_ I've found that most NPs are just as competent as doctors
                    at diagnosing common ailments and have been "nicer"
                    than most doctors at explaining medical situations.
                    That said, I'm going to make an unsolicited comment about
                    Kaiser.  Kaiser is both an HMO as well as an insurance
                    provider, which is quite a big conflict of interest.
                    Doctors there are restricted in the tests they can
                    administer and the procedures they recommend -- these
                    restrictions are based on cost (Kaiser wants to keep
                    costs down as a provider).  These are the same doctors
                    that elsewhere, would be allowed to give you more expensive
                    procedures for the sake of your health.  I have a relative
                    who's been a doctor at Kaiser -- he quit because he wasn't
                    allowed to keep the health of his patients the first
                    priority.  Switch off Kaiser, go PPO.
           \_ Say someone catches anthrax and goes to Kaiser thinking that it's
              a flu.  Can an NP diagnose that as accruately as an MD can?
        \_ Biggest difference: NP can be a hot babe, while MD usually
           isn't. --dim
           \_ my brother's MD girlfriend is pretty hot.  in fact, there were
              a few other babes in his med school class.
              \_ pics?
           \_ I know a hot MD babe too.  Too bad my friend's site (where her pic
              is) is down.
              \_ Key word: usually. --dim
                 \_ i wonder if it doesn't break down based on specialty.
                    from an informal suvey at a med school graduation, it
                    seems that (pediatricians & psychiatrists) > internal
                    medicine > surgery.  your average sodan probably doesn't
                    see many pediatricians or shrinks.  well, not many
                    pediatricians anyway.
                    \_ My dermatologist was attractive. In some of the
                       specialties it's hard to find a female doctor
                       period. --dim
                    \_ I still have wet dreams about my proctologist.
              \_ Can you just post the URL here please so that we can check it
                 out when it's up later?
                 \_ There are quite a few ladies on his site.  I don't know
                    the URL to the one who is an MD, or more specifically,
                    an intern at Stanford's medical center, or whatever that
                    is called.
                    \_ Just the URL to that site, please.
                        \_ Stop drooling.  Go download some net porn.
                           \_ But porn sites only show porn stars.  Hot
                              doctors (real ones) are more exotic.
           \_ In that case, I'm looking forward to my physical.
              \_ "Are you sure it's not a groin pull? Can you check again?"
2001/11/2 [Health, Science/GlobalWarming, Health/Skin] UID:22909 Activity:nil
11/1    Dude isn't there a strong resemblence between Mohamed Atta and Tawei?
        \_ both seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth.
           \_ % last -1 tawei
   tawei            ttyBO         Thu Nov  1 13:58 - 15:35  (01:36)
              % last -1 atta
   wtmp begins Sat Oct 27 15:04:06 PDT 2001
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