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| 2005/6/15-17 [Health, Health/Women] UID:38131 Activity:low |
6/15 I know there was a discussion a couple of weeks ago about RSI and
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome but I wasn't paying attention. Now my SO has
developed wrist pain after using the computer for a couple of hours
(we're guessing it's RSI not CTS but we're not sure) and I'd like to
know: a) is this something people go to see a doctor about and if so
does anyone have any recommendations for a good doctor (preferably
in the south bay)? b) any specific advice besides "take breaks every
10 minutes" etc, especially about setting up an ergonomically healthy
computer desk setup?
\_ You need to approach this problem from all sides. I had RSI and
the pain was so severe that after an hour typing I'd have so much
pain that I'd have to stop. I took frequent mini vacations but
after a while they no longer worked. I finally filed for worker's
comp through HR and they'd set me up with 2 chiropractor
appointments a week. By the way, despite what you hear, worker's
comp for RSI is very very common in Silicon Valley and in many
cases the HR shields this information from your peers and boss.
Anyways, here is the 411 from my doctors and chiropractors. As
you get older, the ability for your body to regenerate muscles,
cartilage, etc diminish. Many short distance runners have to quit
because they can no longer regenerate some parts at a rate they
used to, and eventually their body parts wear out that it hits
the nerves. Same with typing. You're getting older. You'll never
feel as good as flexible and agile as when you were 18, but you
can do a few things. First, increase the rate at which your body
regenerates-- EXERCISE! Cardio is the best. Do this twice a week,
you'll notice dramatic differences in a few months. You should
also STRETCH your hands once every 30 min when you type. Make
this mandatory! Lastly, as a temporarry but immediate relief, use
Kinesis-Ergo keyboard. I did something drastic and even used
Dvorak layout on top of my Kinesis, but there is a lot of
commitment involved. Finally, do all of the above and do it
CONSISTENTLY. It's been 3-4 years since I started my therapy
and according to my doctors and chiros I'm 80-90% healed.
\_ I'd email you exactly how I got rid of my RSI but you're anonymous
\_ I'd email you and tell you my login so you can e-mail me your
advice but you're anonymous... oh wait.
\_ you're the one asking for help, dude.
\_ email me please. !op kngharv
\_ maybe you should email williamc@csua.berkeley.edu because he says
there is no correlation between RSI and typing. Maybe he can give
you advice on what he does that prevents him from getting RSI, like
proper diet or just having fewer neurons that dulls your sensation.
\_ I found that not resting my wrists below the level of (or for
laptops, on) the keyboard, trying to work in not-too-cold
temperatures, using a wrist pad, using a low-impact keyboard (easy
to push keys, not too clicky) and just doing wrist/hand/forearm
stretching exercises every few minutes helped a lot. -John
\_ I think John's suggestions are all good. I use the Soft
Splints from http://www.mousemitt.com to keep my wrists
at the proper level and keep my hands warm while typing.
You may end up looking like a Hobo or Glenn Gould or something
wearing them, but I prefer them to wrist pads, especially for
laptops. - ciyer
\_ I find this mouse very helpful, eventhough it may look like an
obscene sex toy: http://www.animax.no or, if you can't find it
anywhere, try amazon and look for:
http://www.3m.com/us/office/myworkspace/mos_ergo.jhtml
\_ That looks good. I might get one of those. It's funny that it
looks a lot like a good ole fashioned joystick. Incidentally, I
bought a rollerball mouse. It's good in that I can actually do
CAD work for more than an hour at a time now, but I still get
pain when I have long projects. -- ulysses
\_ I got one of those bowl keyboards.
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/essential.htm and yes they are
espensive and yes it took several weeks before I could really type
and over a month before I type well but I was having serious pain
in my right hand before I switched and as long as I use that
keyboard the pain is totally gone now. -aspolito
\_ You can find utilities that remind you to take rest breaks, or just
set a kitchen timer. Learn about stretches specific for
keyboarding
http://www.askergoworks.com/about_erg_stretch_breaks.asp has a
downloadable .pdf with examples of stretches. I also find that a
split keyboard helps. I switched to vim for editing so I don't use
ctrl-alt chording as much as I did with emacs. I also started
mousing with my left hand (I can play FPS's now, though it took a
while to adjust). Finally, strength exercises for back and
shoulders help your posture and force your body into a position
that's better for your arms.
\_ I went to the Stanford hand clinic when I had a problem with my
ulnar nerve. Had physical therapy, which was almost all just hot
paraffin wraps of my forearms. They also had me do exercises
with silly putty and elastic bands to strengthen my wrists, and
I use softcasts whenever I type for extended periods. All that
seemed to work, and I've been pain free for years now. The paraffin
wraps helped calm down my inflamed ulnar, and I think my longer
term nerve-healthiness is due to the softcasts. I am not sure the
exercises helped a whole lot, but I wasn't terribly diligent in
doing the exercises in the first place. BTW, I had a grand old
time talking the clinic resident into ordering all kinds of
expensive nerve induction tests, all of which were paid for by my
insurance. There's probably some kind of insurance-reform parable
in there somewhere.
\_ Try these busty mousepads: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=1498
\_ I haven't tried the Kinesis kb's, but I personally use a normal
MS ergo split key with the 3M ergo mouse. The mouse made a
huge difference for me. One of my coworkers with more extreme
RSI uses something called a touchstream keyboard. It's pretty
nice since it requires near zero force to type and mouse.
Make sure you get your desk ergonomically evaluated and do wrist
stretches ever day. |
| 2005/6/11-13 [Health, Health/Eyes] UID:38084 Activity:low |
6/10 I found this quite moving [E'ist Obit]:
http://www.economist.com/people/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4054912
\_ passive acceptance to racial prejudice. It is a role model
which we want minorities to follow.
\_ passive accpetance to racial prejudice, a model which we should
encourage minorties to follow. |
| 2005/6/10-13 [Health] UID:38073 Activity:nil |
6/10 "We were doing drugs in the dressing room when suddenly the tour
manager stuck his head round the door and said: 'The Police are here'.
We all panicked and threw our drugs down the toilet. And then Sting,
Andy Summers and Stuart Copeland walked in."
--Ronny Wood, Rolling Stones |
| 2005/6/9-13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Health] UID:38060 Activity:low |
6/9 Sez the Canadian Supreme Court: "delays in the [Quebec] public health
care system are widespread and that in some serious cases, patients
die as a result of waiting lists for public health care."
http://csua.org/u/cb5 [nytimes]
\_ Meanwhile, 40 million plus Americans have no health insurance of
any kind. And god help if you have a preexisting condition and
become unemployed.
\_ This fictional 40 million number.... why should the govt
pay for health insurance for people who rather buy
new cars and flat screen plasma TVs? The number of people
who could not afford health ins., should they actually
choose to buy it, is very small. Futhermore, by law no
one is denied care at a hospital emergency room and
socialized health care programs already exist.
\_ I don't know if this is trolling or naivete. "Could not
afford" is, perhaps, a subjective term, but data I've seen
from at least Mendocino, Sonoma, Lake and Napa counties
indicate populations well into the thousands who cannot
afford heath insurance and are under-served by the local
publicly available health care options. Not to mention that
in those counties, as well as in Santa Cruz county,
facilities that serve primarily Medicare and Medical patients
are closing. "By law" is one thing but have you heard of a
"code red" condition? That means the ER at a hospital won't
accept any new comers. That said, I don't think any of the
folks I'm refering to would be buying new cars or flat
screen TVs either. -- ulysses
\_ so you know personally know 40 million people without
insurance? "really can't afford health care" can denot
alot of categories. As a graduate student making 30k a
year I could afford catastrophic health care or,
if need be, go on a government program, as we already
have Fed and state programs for people who cannot
afford health care. Let me ask you this - would you
agree to tax cuts so people could pay for their health
care, or do these people you seem to know not work
anyways?
\_ The populations to whom I'm referring make typically less
than $10,000 a year. Cutting their taxes would still not
give them enough money to afford health care. Sample
occupations include homecare workers, gardeners,
(non-union) custodians. There are many more but those
are on the top of my head. These are people typically
within two or three multiples of the federal poverty
line. You are certainly correct that you, as a graduate
student, have more options. The Fed and state programs
to which you refer (Medical? Medicare?) only work if
there are facilities around to take patients. This is
getting lengthy and narrow for the motd so I invite you
to sign your login or email me. -- ulysses |
| 2005/6/9-12 [Recreation/Dating, Health] UID:38053 Activity:low |
6/9 Labia plastic surgery enhancement is getting more popular:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8132227
Now, can someone please tell me what a good looking and bad
looking vagina looks like? I simply have NO CLUE. -loser virgin
\_ I looked up the surgeon the guy mentions in the article, and
he has before and after pictures of all of his many proceedures
here: http://www.psurg.com/women.html
I don't get it either.
\_ Good looking - waxed and/or trimmed. Bad looking - hairy. What
plastic surgery is needed for, I have no idea.
\_ Think meat curtains, roast beef, etc.
\_ Yucks. Just concentrate on the boobs or turn off the light.
Or pretend that you prefer anal and take the back road
instead.
\_ The trick is finding a girl that is down with that
preference.
\_ Badly packed kebab! -John
\_ At least it's not as big of cheating as hymen reconstruction.
\_ "cheating"? If someone's not happy with themselves, shouldn't
they be free to do something about it? As for what leads people
to want hymen reconstruction, that's pretty fucked up in
itself, admittedly. -John
\_ Sometimes doing something about it is worse than leaving it
alone. http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com. -tom
\_ I never claimed otherwise. So? -John
\_ If the purpose is to feel happy with themselves, yeah they
should be free to do so. But if the purpose is to present
themselves as virgins when they are not, that's lying to
their partners. Some may say they should be free to lie,
though.
\_ Yes, they should, as long as it does not break any laws
(perjury, whatever.) When the law says to throw rocks
at a woman who's not a virgin when married, well... -John |
| 2005/6/8 [Health] UID:38032 Activity:high 80%like:37993 |
6/6 Hello, my name is Dick Dickless (dickless@csua.berkeley.edu). I never
get any pain on my fingers while typing and a web site I found
supports my position. Therefore, it is impossible to get CTS or RSI
from IO. Also, everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot, and
should get the fuck out of my mother country USA. -dickless
\_ Error 404. Still Not Funny. Troll Harder. -dans |
| 2005/6/6 [Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:37980 Activity:nil |
6/6 Medical Marijuana, RIP:
http://csua.org/u/c9g
\_ O'Connor complaining that it's not repsecting state rights? I'm so
confused. Is this the Bizarro SCOTUS?
\_ States rights are only good if we like what the right is, like
citizens owning anti-tank weaponry and the government not knowing
who those owners are.
\_ Interesting that Justice Thomas dissented.
\_ Along with O'Conner and Rehnquist (he's still alive I
guess) |
| 2005/6/3-4 [Health, Health/Men] UID:37963 Activity:high |
6/3 I went to get a haircut and they recommended some new shampoo
because I may be losing some hair (which may have some truth
to it...). I've been using generic shampoo. Are there any
truth to what they are saying? Would the more expensive
shampoo be better for my hair? -clueless guy
\_ There could be. What was the name of the recommended shampoo?
\_ I forgot, but it sold for about $30+ for one large bottle...
\_ Well if it was called Nioxin (a fairly expensive shampoo
they often have in barber shops), yes it might be able to
help. It helps to prevent hair from falling out; it does
nothing to help regrow hair.
help. It helps to prevent more hair from falling out; it does
nothing to regrow hair.
\_ DANGER!!! nioxin is an anagram for "I Nixon". It's
probably GOP brainwash putty in a bottle.
\_ Not true. Nioxin doesn't have Rogaine or anything
like that in it. It does, however, help make
thinning hair look more full. Lots of men say that
Nizoral (prescription strength) works. Of course,
you can also do pills.
\_ No, I was right. So what if it doesn't have
rogaine in it; tylenol doesn't have morphine
in it, but it still helps with pain. Rogaine
helps regrow hair. Nioxin tries to prevent
more hair from falling out. -pp
\_ No, there is no drug in Nioxin no matter
what it claims. It is not proven to do
anything.
\_ There's nothing in it? so it's just
a bottle of nothing? interesting.
\_ OK so only drugs are effective?
\_ There is no chemical in Nioxin which
purports to do what they say it
does, whether it's lemon balm or
whatever. What is the active
ingredient in Nioxin that prevents
hair loss?
\_ Yes you have a point (as Nioxin
webpage's FAQ admits), but that
doesn't mean it can't achieve
an effect.
\_ In that case, smear dogshit
on your head. It might work.
\_ Did you think of that
yourself? Damn you're
clever.
\_ Interesting, I was using Nizoral for the dandruff
(it's much better than Head & Shoulders, Selsun
Blue, etc.), but I didn't know it had a hair-retention
side effect. |
| 2005/5/11-12 [Health] UID:37622 Activity:moderate |
5/11 I started a diet/exercise regime two weeks ago. I weighed 193
then. My ideal weight is about 175-180. I cut out all fast food,
soft drinks, and other crap. I ate mostly fruits, vegetables, and
yogurt with some lean cuts of meat with dinner. I started doing
20 minutes of cardio every other day and some basic exercises like
crunches and pushups. I went back to the nurse today and found that I
have gained 4 pounds. I doubt it is muscle so soon. I also found
my blood pressure is a little higher than when I started. Is that
normal? The nurse didn't seem concerned. I have an appointment
with my doctor, but I was curious what the motd knows. Is this
typical? --dim
\_ I have a suggestion about exercise. Find a way to get exercise that
involves a sport that is actually fun and interesting. I personally
find pushups, situps, and generic "cardio" like running to be really
boring. Maybe you'll have the willpower to do that crap every day
for ten years, but eventually you'll lose interest. Find a real,
interesting sport and you can still be getting enough exercise to
be healthy for decades. My judo instructor is in his 70's, and
probably gets more exercise than most 40 year olds because he still
finds the judo interesting enough to keep him going.
\_ Yeah, the problem I've had in the past with that is
getting people together for a sport. (not a problem with
judo, but...) LLNL has pleanty of options, so I can play
something every day at lunch, but if I worked elsewhere,
I'm not sure what I'd do. -jrleek
\_ I'll say the same thing to you I say to everyone: judo is
the best sport ever, and you should try it. Judo in Livermore
courtesy of http://local.google.com:
http://www.amador-judo-jujitsu.com
\_ Ha! I took jujitsu as a teenager, and I've driven by
this place and thought about starting again. Now I'm
motd peer pressure. awesome. -jrleek
\_ Just to turn the pressure up a notch, I'd like to point
out that while jujitsu is a great martial art, judo
is also a great *sport*. This was part of the genius
of the founder or judo: he turned a brutal fighting
system into a sport that is roughly as dangerous as a
track event (but infinitely more fun to play or watch.)
Great for kids also.
\_ http://www.bluesuitmom.com/health/personaltrainer/weightgain.html
\_ Your weight fluctuates naturally daily. Read:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet for more. Basically, you should
weigh yourself every day and then track the average trend. Worrying
about two data points on a whole curve is a bad idea. If you have a
palm-based PDA you can download a nifty tool for doing that for you
at the hacker's diet page.
\- if you were doing weights, i think a 4lbs gain for your wt level
after 2wks on a low carb/high protein diet is not at all odd.
20minutes is not enough. go for 60min. i cannot say more since
i do not know how chubular you were when you started out. you
can probably invest about $50-60 in a FAT MONITOR scale. --psb
\_ I think everyone has a 2-3 lbs delta in weight on a day-to-day
basis so I wouldn't be concerned w/ a 4 lbs gain.
BTW, your goal is completely reachable, though it might take
time. About 2 yrs ago I was in a similar position to you - I
weighed ~ 195 lbs and wanted to loose weight. Since I'm
vegetarian and never really went in for soft drinks about the
only thing I could cut out of my diet was dairy products and
sugars. I cut my cheese and dairy intake by half and started
drinking my tea w/o sugar. In addition I started running once a
week (~ 5 miles) and either walking or riding every 3 days a
week. Last summer I started playing Ultimate Frisbee and that
really helped too. I've managed to get down to about 165 or so.
week (~ 5 miles) and either walking or riding 3 days a week.
Last summer I started playing Ultimate Frisbee and that really
helped too. I've managed to get down to about 165 or so.
Good Luck! |
| 2005/5/10-12 [Health, Health/Men] UID:37605 Activity:nil |
5/10 If you wanna be a hip drug dealer these days, you're gonna need an
alligator.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=34529 |
| 2005/3/29-30 [Health] UID:36946 Activity:nil |
3/29 hepatitis b vaccine? anyone take it? how many shots?
\_ which country are you going to?
\_ yes. two to three shots, depending on the series. worth
getting that and hep a. --Jon
\_ 3 shots. 2nd one month after 1st; 3rd six months after 2nd. Vital
if you're going to work in healthcare.
\_ I've taken it. Got it at the same time I got the chickenpox
vaccine. I'm in a low risk group for HepB, but it's something
I have less to worry about. --PeterM
\_ I got it before I came to the US for college. 3 shots, IIRC.
That was in 1989 though. |
| 2005/3/18-19 [Politics/Domestic/California, Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:36762 Activity:high |
3/18 Best and worst states & public schools for raising healthy kids:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150763,00.html
California ranks 13th.
\_ As someone who spent half his youth in their lowest ranked state and
half in their highest, I just want to say that these people are
*completely* full of shit.
\_ indeed, because, like most people, they are idiots
They didn't even measure how fit kids were in these states
These are your standard liberal dumb asses who think that
the way you get kids to be more fit is upping the "school
requirements and recommendations for physical education and
nutrition classes [and] playground safety" Jeesh. |
| 11/23 |
| 2005/3/10 [Health, Recreation/Food] UID:36619 Activity:nil |
3/10 Robert Downey Jr.: Burger King saved me from drugs!
http://csua.org/u/bbm |
| 2005/3/4-5 [Health] UID:36527 Activity:kinda low |
3/4 Can we institute a new general rule: If you have to ask motd whether
you should talk to a doctor, talk to a damn doctor.
\_ M-x doctor
\_ No, I'd rather rely on our motd's diverse resources, I like the
common sense approach here, motd posters are very knowledgable.
\_ Smoking is good for you! Rat poison == health food! |
| 2005/3/2-3 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:36490 Activity:nil |
3/2 I got a splinter in my finger about a month or 2 ago. Since
it wasn't particularly bothering me, I just ignored it. It's
still not particularly bothering me, but I can feel it when
I put pressure on the exact spot of the splinter. Since
it's been almost 2 months, does that mean that it's moved
deeper into my skin and will be difficult and/or painful
to remove? Is it advisable or silly to go to the doctor,
have them numb it, and then remove it?
\_ Pin, disinfect by holding over a lighter, shot of booze for the
pain, start digging. Minor risk of infection and finger falling
off--be a real man and disregard. -John
\_ If it's not infected (and it doesn't sound like it is)
then it's probably ok, and you don't need to see a doctor.
\_ So if I do nothing, will it eventually dissolve, or will
it just be deeper under my skin so I can't feel it,
or will my finger just be a sensitive to pressure on
that spot for the rest of my life? -op
\_ if you have insurance just go to a dermatologist. they'll
prob just take care of it in the office in like 5 minutes.
if not, dont worry unless it gets infected discolored painful
whatever.
\_ I had a broken-off cactus needle embedded under my thumbnail
for about 5 years before it finally disappeared. I wouldn't
worry yourself overmuch.
\_ It worked its way into your heart or your brain now. That's
why you can't see it. |
| 2005/2/15-17 [Health, Finance/Shopping] UID:36175 Activity:nil |
2/15 To the people that pay for their own individual health insurance
plans, how much do you pay per month and how is your coverage?
I'm looking for as cheap a plan as possible, but one which
will still pay for well visits (regular checkups, etc.) This
plan that I have now doesn't pay shit for checkups, and I
want to find a new one.
\_ I pay $43/month for Blue Cross's $3500-deductible plan. I pay all
my health costs out of pocket, up to $3500/year; after that, they
pay for everything. It's not what you were asking for, but for me
it ends up being cheaper to pay for my own checkups and stuff than
to get a real plan that would cover them. |
| 2005/2/10-11 [Health, Health/Men] UID:36132 Activity:high |
2/10 OMFG. http://csua.org/u/b0k (work safe, but not psyche safe) \_ He's just doing his part for natural selection! \_ Only if he hasn't reproduced yet. \_ http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005062479,00.html \_ Eunuchs suffered this in the past. |
| 2005/2/1 [Health] UID:36016 Activity:nil |
2/1 Why are all the pain spots on the back where you hands can't reach
them? I mean if evolution has its way, it should be in the
front where our hands can reach it right? Is there a good
explanation why it's all in the back???
\_ "Intelligent Design"
\_ Two flawed premises
\_ Humans are social creatures: Have you ever heard
"I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine"
\_ Then it should be "I'll scratch your breasts if you scratch my
penis."
\_ nyuck nyuck, yer funney |
| 2005/1/30 [Recreation/Dating, Health, Recreation/Humor] UID:35978 Activity:nil |
1/30 Never mind that PETA seems to be confusing their cause of animal
rights with the cause of male sexual health, but this is pretty funny.
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=super_bowl_60 |
| 2005/1/10-11 [Health] UID:35629 Activity:very high |
1/9 I would like to hear a good argument for the proposals to limit
non-economic damages in medical malpractice suits to $250,000 as
suggested by president Bush. It seems to me that if a doctor is
drunk, high, or otherwise clearly negligent and kills a family
member, $250,000 is a paltry amount for punishment/compensation. Thanks
\_ Fine. Put the max at $500K then. Or a mil. Or two.
\_ Would you adjust this for inflation, cost of living, etc.?
Why not just let a jury decide or pass some guidelines instead
of choosing a single number for all situations?
\_ I was trying to figure out if the op is sensitive to the
level of a max or to the concept of a max altogether. His
original post gave the impression he was questioning the
value of max but not the existence of max.
\_ How about setting the max to (doctor's insurance coverage
+ 5 years previous gross earning)?
\_ What is the minimum amount of malpractice insurance required by
law, if any?
\_ A better proposal is to have all lawyers talk about Plato and Kant.
And only yale law graduates + psb can argue cases before jury.
\_ I'm fairly sure killing a family member has more economic damage
than $250K. Basically, punishing one doctor punishes *all* doctors.
Doctors are people and they make mistakes. If they're criminal
mistakes, they shouldn't be allowed to work again in the field.
That's pretty heavy punishment already.
\_ If the family member is not working and had no plans to work
I don't think you can claim economic damages. For example,
if it was your child that died, you can't claim economic damages.
\_ Actually you may be able to get some damages based
on future earnings and loss of consortium.
I agree that doctors are people too and can make mistakes. Also,
medicine is a practice not a science and sometimes things go
wrong through no fault of the doctor. The problem is that a
small percentage of doctors are responsible for the
majority of malpractice insurance payouts. This is because the
medical profession is self-regulated and doctors rarely are
prevented from practicing even after gross errors. For example,
most state medical boards do not share information. So if a
doctor in Nevada screws up so bad to get his license removed,
he can just move to CA and continue practicing. It seems to me
that politicians should focus on preventing bad doctors from
driving up malpractice insurance rather than protecting them
from facing the consequences of their mistakes.
\- another approach to the problem is to allow punative
damages for negligence BUT the $ doenst go to the plaintiff.
he would only be compensated for his losses. he is not "owed"
that money, but the fines exist to incentivize correct
behavior. --psb
\_ That seems quite reasonable to me in principle. I think
the only practical difficulty is that preventing $ from
going to the plantiff reduces the plantiffs ability to
hire lawyers. While this may be good in the sense that
everyone seems to hate lawyers, our justice system is
definetly biased towards deep pockets. Attorneys I know
have told me that they often try to bury the opposition in
paperwork. If the opponent is poorer then they win, and if
the opponent is wealthy then the lawyers on both sides win.
Still, this approach seems worth debating while the
hard limit on punitive damages seems indefensible to me.
\-i have not been following the news about this closely
but i thought it was "emotional damages" not punative
\-meaning non-economic but
compensatory damages. like
if a doctor accidentally gives
you a penectomy you dont have
to be a male ho to claim
compensatory damages.
damages that were capped. i assume the guiding principle
that people should not be allowed to benefit from a
crime is still preserved. the other possibility is to
have "expert juries" in complex cases. some of the
testimony in the ford pinto case was pretty amazing ...
like there was a conversy over what one burned victim
said before he died in the hospital and ford clained
something like "his lips were too badly burned to have
said word X". i no longer have to energy to discuss the
incetive alignment problem. --psb
\_ It all depends on where you focus. For the sake of argument
lets focus on the doctor rather than the family. When a kid
comes to a doctor and is in need of some procedure, do you
want the doctor to think, if I do this procedure today this
kids mom might sue my pants off b/c I took a sudafed this
morning and the family lawyer will say that sudafed == high
if something goes wrong? Or do you want the doctor to think
about the kid and focus on the kids problem and how best to
resolve the problem?
If you don't cap non-economic damages (usually pain and
suffering), you are likely to get huge jury awards even in
cases where the defendants behavior wasn't all that bad.
This acts as a disincentive to many doctors. They would
rather not take action b/c of the fear of getting sued.
This leads to lots of patients not getting timely care and
suffering many complications that could be avoided.
If you cap non-economic damages, doctors may take some risk
in the care of patients which could result in many patients
getting timely care and avoiding complications.
\_ Why not limit the civil suit damages across the board and
then expose perpetrators to the criminal justice system? The
gross negligence resulting in death sound a lot like
manslaughter to me. If anything, the licensed doctor should
be MORE guilty than the unlicensed practitioner, IMHO. (The
latter can get hit w/ additional fraud charges). Put 'em in
prison instead of suing their pants off. |
| 2004/12/28 [Health, Health/Women] UID:35458 Activity:high |
12/28 Excellent point about Vioxx, etc. that I've been saying (but he's
saying it much better):
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20041228.shtml
\_ Good article. -- ilyas
\_ This explains a lot.
\_ well written. the last few sentences are great.
\- isnt everything in there obvious to moderately educated people?
\_ not necessarily. 1) you overestimate the intelligence
of the american public. 2) I'm not implying anything
about people's intelligence here, but I doubt everyone
viewed this vioxx situation in the same way.
\_ I think this article completely misses the point. The problem
is not one of risk management but of the drug companies
knowingly concealing evidence about the dangers of a drug while
spending millions marketing it to patients and doctors. One
more thing: when I played high school football, most people wore
as many pads as they could. Running backs wore even *more* padding
since they got hit so much. The only people I knew who wore less
padding were quarterbacks (pads can hinder throwing). Maybe the
pros are better at dodging than the people I played with. -emin
\_ They are bigger for sure, and have more 'natural padding'.
Also, they get paid more, so the hit in performance from
more padding is of more interest to them than to a random
high school guy who plays football for 'fun and status.' |
| 2004/12/21 [Politics/Foreign/Canada, Health] UID:35376 Activity:high |
12/21 Does anyone really believe this?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/12/21/drug.imports.ap/index.html
"Report: Drug imports safe or cheap -- not both"
\_ Yes, and not because any administration says it. It's basic
economics and patent issues.
\_ So why don't they say:
"Report: Drug imports not possible because of patent issues"
"Report: Drug imports not possible because of economic and
patent issues"
\_ Because the average person has the attention span of a gnat
and wouldn't pay attention long enough to understand. Drug
Imports BAD. This is the (correct) response to the equally
useless Drug Imports GOOD.
\_ Actually, I think it's because you'll lose votes if
you tell it like it is. "We're trying to protect you"
sounds a lot better than "We're protecting U.S. drug
companies' IP rights".
\_ No. There is no need to re-inspect everything coming from Canada.
We can save lots of money just by trusting the Canadian FDA
equivalent to do the work for us.
\_ Except Canada has already said they won't be our drug store.
\_ If drugs from Canada are not safe, then should we be seeing many
sick or dead Canadians? Or are we implying that the Americans
are too fragile to take drugs from Canada?
\_ Except Canada has already said they won't be our drug store. |
| 2004/12/19-20 [Health] UID:35361 Activity:nil |
12/19 Dude, I think your kidneys would've been in better shape if you
had taken the drugs after all...
http://www.healthtalk.ca/depression_12192004_6102.php
\_ Sounds like mild schizophrenia, and a misdiagnosis. Poor bastard. |
| 2004/12/1 [Health, Recreation/Celebrity/MichaelJackson] UID:35142 Activity:moderate |
12/1 Speaking of fat shambling types getting a new look, has anyone seen a
picture of Peter Jackson lately? Did motherfucker go on the Atkins diet
or something?
\_ Peter Jackson kinda looks like my boss. (Or he did when he was
fat.)
\_ link??
\_ He's still not skinny, but compare it to LotR era pictures:
http://img-nex.kongisking.net/kong/movies/day51-480x270-mpeg4.mov |
| 2004/11/3 [Health] UID:34603 Activity:nil |
11/3 The one consolation this morning: at least I am too old to be
drafted. I am 40 .. For those under 40: be proactive and start
learning Farsi or Arabic.
\_ the cutoff is usually 35, unless you possess some critical
skill like being a doctor. they don't need computer programmers.
\_ They didn't use the doctor-draft yet in Iraq, right?
So they probably won't use a computer-programmer-draft. |
| 2004/10/9 [Health, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34006 Activity:very high |
10/9 Does *anyone* believe Bush's lie about drugs from Canada? I'm sure
there are morons in St. Louis who believe that Bush is protecting
them from Evil Canadian drugs, but does anyone on the motd actually
not see this as a shameless giveaway to the drug companies?
\_ Bush told a bald faced lie: ..
Bush told the truth: .
\_ I laughed at loud when Dubya said he was against Canada-imported
drugs to protect us from dangerous drugs.
The true answer, obviously, is that cheaper Canadian drugs
would impact U.S. drug company profits significantly, and
Republicans are wont to take actions that reduce profits from
U.S. companies in any business, since they believe, supportably,
that this is un-American.
It's what my O'Reilly-loving younger brother says:
Of course the Republicans know the real reasons and they are plenty
good, but it's necessary to play the political game.
\_ Speaking of whom, I saw Bill on the Daily Show, and my respect
for him actually went from none to grudging. He's a smart guy,
and I really can't wait for him to quit Fox and write a book
about his experiences there; I think he knows he's being paid
to be an actor on (nearly) state-supported TV.
\_ No you moron. The real issue is that as soon as we start
importing drugs en masse from Canada, Canada will stop getting
drugs from pharmaceuticals companies for the current price, and
there will be a single worldwide price.
\_ Right, blame the evil drug companies when in fact the US taxpayer
subsizdizes the worlds (eg. Canada and Europe's) drug consumption.
\_ The world is better of without those Candians. -G.W.B.
\_ Yes, your HS brother represents all Republicans. Can I quote my
19 year old half sister for the Democrats? BTW, what is Kerry's
plan for Iran? |
| 2004/9/30-10/1 [Health, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:33844 Activity:moderate |
9/30 How did Dr. Atkins die? Did he die of his own diet? And was
Bill Clinton on the Atkins diet before the heart incident?
\_ A young Jedi named Darth Vader - who was a pupil of mine
until he turned to evil - helped the Empire hunt down the
Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered Atkins.
\_ dr atkins was just really goddamn old when he died
\_ Clinton was on the South Beach diet, but how well he had been
following it or exercising, I'm not sure. Atkins slipped on an icy
sidewalk, hit his head, went into a coma and died. Some people say
his diet hampered any chance for recovery, but it's hard to say.
\_ Some news article also said he's obese at the time of the
accident, but his wife disputed.
\_ Rib-eyes are on sale at Safeway this week, yay!
\_ Uh, he fell on his head while walking on an icy sidewalk.
\_ Why didn't they sue the State for $millions for negligence?
\_ There's assumed risk when you walk down an icy sidewalk. The
city is not negligent when the sidewalks are icy in winter.
\_ Yeah, right. I actually believe and agree with you,
but a lot of disgruntled and pathetic people don't.
Cities have been sued over lame things like that,
for example by a man who broke his shin while
sliding into home plate during a softball game
sponsored by some city league.
\_ Damn those ambulance chasing laywers. |
| 2004/9/18 [Politics/Domestic/California, Health] UID:33613 Activity:nil |
9/17 http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/17/porn.fine.ap/index.html Condom or no condom? |
| 2004/9/13 [Health] UID:33501 Activity:high |
9/13 NYT: "Canada Looks for Ways to Fix Its Health Care System"
link:csua.org/u/90n
\_ One patient who went to the emergency ward recently, Crystal
Bentley, 22, complained of cysts behind her ears. She said she
would prefer to see her family doctor but would have to wait
in his office for hours. She said she went to the hospital
because the emergency room was faster.
"Seeing a doctor and not having to pay is phenomenal," she said.
Shessh. And they wonder why the doctors are overworked.
Tragety of the Commons anyone?
\_ the idea is not to have universal health care but
universal health INSURANCE, with high deductibles and
copay until a significantly high limit is reached.
This would reduce abuse.
\_ Hey, I'd *love* that personally right now. Problem is, I
can't buy a plan like that.
\_ Why not? They are available for sale.
\_ Limit it to a percentage of estimated yearly income.
\_ I understand this basic priciple. I curious, do you
think there should still be private insurance companies
in that system? And if you belonged to a private
insurance company, you wouldn't pay for the government
one? How does this stack up against the great money hole
that is MediCare?
\_ Mostly, I am just thinking in terms of what should
be done if we want universal health insurance. The
important thing is to make it such that market
forces still play a role for the patients, the doctors,
hospitals, the pharmaceutical companies, etc.
Generally speaking, I think there should still be
private insurance companies providing additional
benefits at additional costs, but I haven't
thought through the details yet.
\_ "...elective surgery like hip replacements."
\_ Has anybody else tried a plan like Lumenos? They basically put $1000
per year into my account (which rolls over year to year) which I
can use or save as I see fit. If I ever deplete my account,
there's an $800 "bridge" for which I'm responsible, and then the plan
functions much like a PPO, mostly 80%/20%, up to $2500/year. I can
choose any doctor I want, even chiropractors, no copays or anything
like that. My company seems to like it, as they're increasing
the incentives to switch to this plan. The front office nurses never
seem to know about it, but one even exclaimed "no shit?" in front of
her boss because she liked the idea.
\_ The Canadian system is still better than the American system
on every measurable deliverable. They spend 2/3 as much as a
percentage of GDP and get better or comparable results. The
problems mentioned in that article are all more severe in
the United States: rural doctor shortages, long lines at
ERs and drop in clinics and a shortage of primary care
physicians.
\_ You need to acknowledge that the U.S. does not have Canadian-
style taxation. You get what you pay for. (Everyone pays for
universal health care in Canada; the problem is long waits and
lack of family doctors in small-town areas. In the U.S., people
pay less taxes; the problem is lots of poor and middle-income
people who can't afford any health care.) -liberal
\_ There are doctor shortages in rural US areas too.
\_ "Liberal"?
\_ There, I expanded my post for you. Basically, if you say
"The Canadian health care system is great!", you need
to say, "It will cost you", too.
\_ The Canadian system will cost you less than the US
system. The difference is the canadisn system is paid
for by taxes, not by HMO premiums.
\_ He meant to say "libertarian" but misspelled it.
\_ I have no personal experience with the Canadian. Say I am a
random Joe working some average office job with health insurance
at an HMO. How would the Canadian system serve me better?
\_ One problem is how much the health insurance is costing
the companies, and the cost continues to rise fast.
recently someone posted a link to an article saying
that many companies are curtailing hiring because of
the high cost of health insurance. it could also
potentially make US companies less competitive.
Personally, I also find dealing with HMOs, etc.,
being forced to switch insurance (and doctors) when
changing jobs, dealing with the HMO bureacracy (not
paying my doctor for a few months, for instance), etc.
a big pain. |
| 2004/9/1 [Health, Recreation/Food] UID:33280 Activity:nil |
9/1 Knock Knock
\_ OB: Who's there?
\_ Doctor
\_ OB: Doctor Who?
\_ The Time Lord!
\_ That's right.
\_ Dalek Voice: Exterminate!
\_ Pizza?
\_ OB: Pizza who?
\_ Come out here a get a pizza me!
\_ You want me to piss at you? Sure.
\_ Pizza to meet you!
\_ Yermom
\_ Yermom who?
\_ Your own mother! Now open the door.
\_ Control freak. Now you say "Control freak who?" |
| 2004/9/1 [Health] UID:33277 Activity:nil |
9/1 I just started to work out trying to gain muscle. Someone once told
me that the right workout plan is something like this: (Let's say
machines 1,2,3 exercise the same muscles.)
Machine 1, weight=31, 10 reps. Rest 32 seconds
Machine 1, weight=50, 8 reps. Rest 36 seconds
Machine 1, weight=73, 6 reps. Rest 49 seconds
Machine 2, weight=40, 10 reps. Rest 34 seconds
Machine 3, weight=80, 8 reps. Rest 30 seconds
Machine 2, weight=118, 6 reps. Rest 42 seconds
Machine 3, weight=32, 12 reps. Rest 31 seconds
Machine 1, weight=65, 8 reps. Rest 35 seconds
Machine 3, weight=90, 6 reps. Rest 40 seconds
Machine 1, weight=29, 14 reps. Rest 30 seconds
Machine 1, weight=50, 8 reps. Rest 36 seconds
Machine 2, weight=70, 5 reps. Rest 41 seconds
Machine 2, weight=40, 10 reps. Rest 37 seconds
Machine 1, weight=78, 8 reps. Rest 30 seconds
Machine 2, weight=120, 6 reps. Rest 48 seconds
Machine 3, weight=26, 2 reps. Rest 52 seconds
Machine 3, weight=60, 8 reps. Rest 25 seconds
Machine 1, weight=84, 7 reps. Rest 82 seconds
(Then *immediately* move on to machines 4,5,6 for a different muscle.
And then you're done for the day.)
Is anything wrong with the above plan? Thanks for any info.
\_ Yeah, machine 3 should be switched with machine 1 and machine
5 with 6. Also, iteration 6 should contain 4 reps instead of 10.
(Who the fuck posts shit like this anyway? Get a fucking trainer).
\_ All that on one muscle group? I think that's far too much shit. I
think it would be more effective to do higher weights, fewer sets,
and wait longer between sets. I think that takes too long also.
\_ Yes, more weight and fewer reps will produce better results
in addition to taking less time. You want to tax the muscle.
Lots of reps of low weight doesn't help as much.
\_ I see. So does three rounds of 10+8+6 reps instead of six
rounds sound correct?
\_ If you're just starting out, spend a little cash and hire
a professional trainer for a few sessions. You learn much
useful information that way, and minimize the possibility
of injury.
\_ In addition, you need some steroids |
| 2004/8/19 [Health, Reference/Law/Court] UID:33006 Activity:very high |
8/18 More evidence US healthcare system is broken:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/19/business/19care.html?hp
"Rising Cost of Health Benefits Cited as Factor in Slump of Jobs"
\_ login: csuatroll
pw: csuasucks
\_ Can someone please fix csuamotd's password?
\_ I recently saw some additional evidence that California's
educational system is broken and that the earth is round.
Is anyone arguing these points? -phuqm
\_ Yep. Trail lawyers destroyed it, and now people want to elect
one to fix it. THAT makes sense...
\_ It's been shown that rising HMO and drug company profits (and
marketing expenditures) have a lot more to do with it than rising
malpractice insurance. Also, FWIW, malpractice premiums are
rising faster than the volume of jury awards. Perhaps you should
be blaming greedy corporations in stead.
\_ The malpractice insurance market wouldn't be able to bear
the rising cost if not for the trail lawyers. The fact
that someone with a false claim and an evil lawyer can,
with little cost to themselves, potentially destroy a
doctor's whole life, tends to make doctors a bit nervous.
Hence the rising rates. Would you like some nice
stories about doctor's getting screwed?
\_ I'm saying the insurance companies are raising rates more
than they have to to reap extra profits. Would you like
some nice stories about patients getting screwed?
\_ Ummm.. duh. Ever hear of economics? Charge what
the market will bear? That's a fact of business.
I'm saying that we've created a legal enviornment
that breeds legalized extortion, which results in
a legalized protection racket. Making laws to
fight the symptoms isn't going to fix the problem.
It's not good for doctors OR patients.
\_ Surely you realize the necessity of the possibility
of large court judgements to curtail the rate of
doctor error. If court judgments are not large
enough to make a lawyer want to take the case,
there's not much incentive for a doctor to do a
competant job.
\_ I was concentrating on the "little cost to
themselves" problem. What does it cost
someone to make false accusations? What
is the cost of losing to the accusor? And
are you arguing that the lawyer fees in these
cases AREN'T excessive?
\_ The lawyer fee comes out of the judgement and
is between the lawyer and their client. If
they bring a clearly meritless claim, the
doctor (or their insurance company) can sue for
*their* lawyer fees. The patient has no
disincentive to bring a possibly-meritorius
case, but they still have to convince a lawyer
that is has some chance of winning.
Answer this question: What would the ideal
legal system be for this case. You have an
indigent patient who had an unsatisfactory
outcome to their treatment. They think their
doctor screwed up, but it is a matter of
debate. What would they have to do before they
can sue? If they win, should they recieve just
compensatory damages, or enough to make it
worthwhile for their lawyer. If they lose,
who should have to pay either party's legal
fees?
\_ I'm not sure what you mean by this:
If they win, should they recieve just
compensatory damages, or enough to make it
worthwhile for their lawyer.
\_ Say, $5,000 for being out of work a few
months (which is not enough damages to make
a lawyer interested), or $50,000 for pain
and suffering or punitive damages, which
is enough that the case can procede.
\_ Can't the plantiff sue for Medical
damages, being out of work, and
legal fees?
\_ Well the question is what kind of
damages *should* we let people sue for
should there be a cap, and should
there be another disincentive to sue
too readily.
\_ Ok, niether. All legal fees must be
predifined. Loser automatically pays
legal fees for both parties. Plantiffs
and Defendants must have this
explained to them before any fees are
charged to the "case account." For that
party.
\_ Alright, that might be a sane system, if
contingency lawyers start agree to cover
the fees in the event of a loss. The
current proposed solutions "make it very
hard to sue" and "make the damages small"
ignore the side effect that doctors
would be able to get away with being
major fuckups.
\_ I certainly agree with you there.
\_ Malpractice insurance costs are rising rapidly. My
neighbor is doctor. His insurance went up 5% last year
and just about every year. He can't charge his patients
more, because he has a contracted rate with the HMO/PPO
plan he is a member of. What does he do? See more
patients? Take a 5% cut in salary every year?
\_ Some people blame the lawyers. I think they're a necessary
evil and blame the malpractice insurers and the HMOs.
If we went to a NHS system we wouldn't have malpractice
insurers because the 'defendant' would be the NHS, and we'd
still have buearocrats (sp?) making decsions about levels
of care, but at least they wouldn't be motivated by a
profit motive.
\_ "A centerpiece of Mr. Kerry's plan would be to reduce health
insurance premiums by having the federal government pick up 75
percent of the cost of catastrophic medical care. That would
reduce the cost to employers and employees about 10 percent,
or $1,000 a year, according to campaign officials."
How the heck does this make any sense at all? Where do people
think government money comes from? Money Mines? It's freakin'
taxes! The Employees and Employers will still be paying for
the care, it will just get a percentage taken off by some
bearucrats first! And we all know bearucrats make things
cheaper, right?
\_ And he has said already where he would get that tax revenue
from, and unless you're considerably better off than me, you
won't be touched.
\_ Soak the rich! Oh wait, Kerry IS the rich. Something's
fishy...
\_ Except when I lose my job because Kerry took my venture
capitalist's money.
\_ But what if your venture capitalist is no longer paying
out the ass for HMOs for employees at the companies
he invests in?
\_ Ummm, whatever. You've never been close to venture
funding, have you? |
| 2004/7/16 [Health/Dental, Health] UID:32318 Activity:high |
7/16 From time to time I have food particle stuck at the end of my tongue,
where it is is too narrow and too near the throat for finger to reach.
It creates annoying discomfort as well as bad breath but take a long
time to decay. Is there a way to get it out without going to a
doctor?
\_ USE TOOTHBRUSH!
\_ Stop deep-throating for cash.
\_ Pubic hair is not food particle.
\_ gargle something warm to break it up?
\_ At least in people who had an incomplete tosillectomy, there
can be dead ends there that trap certain food.
\_ Wow that sucks. I'd probably see a doctor about that problem.
\_ try puking and see if it comes out. |
| 2004/7/12 [Health] UID:32240 Activity:moderate |
7/12 Can alcohol or hydrogen peroxide solution cure finger nail infection?
I saw a TV commericial there's a pill for this, but it also says there
can be serious side effects.
\_ Is it fingernail or toenail?
Search google for: berkeley parents nail fungus
As for the pill, that's Lamisil, and you take one a day and your
liver has to work overtime to clear up your blood. Basically you
will need monthly liver monitoring while you are on it. It's
expensive, but it works.
\_ and watch out for extremeley high blood pressure.
\_ It's fingernail (thumbnail). Are fingernail infection and
toenail infection different kinds of infections?
\_ Toenail infections are much more common. Fingernail
infections, I don't know anyone with, and you should
definitely see a doctor, and not only that, a specialist.
I doubt you will find someone on soda who has first-hand
(pun!) experience with fingernail fungus. |
| 2004/6/18-19 [Health, Transportation/Motorcycle] UID:30908 Activity:high |
6/18 What's the best way to ship a motorcycle from LA to Berkeley?
\_ Borrow or rent a pick-up truck.
\_ Ride it up Highway 1. (If it works, of course....)
\_ to minimize pain, I-5. Less time, less butt pain.
\_ Depends on the bike. If it doesn't have decent wind
protection, I-5 is gonna be a PITA.
\_ Do you mean for frontal/road wind, or side winds?
(And if the latter, how do you protect from that?)
\_ Frontal/road wind.
\_ and bugs!
\_ grin and save money on lunch.
\_ If you want to go fast, 5's your answer. But why not take
in the incredible view along 1 instead? |
| 2004/6/11 [Health] UID:30752 Activity:high |
6/7 Deleting this post is futile. I will just keep trying. Here is a
hypothetical question. You're a medic and you have 5 morphines.
There are 10 wounded soldiers, 5 will die for sure and 5 will
live for sure. All are suffering and are requesting for morphine.
Should you give the morphine to those who are gonna die (so that
they can die in peace) or should you give the morphine to those
will will live? There's no right/wrong answer, I'm just looking
for explanations and logic, thanks.
\_ One utilitarian answer would give morphine to 5 soldiers who will
live. Why: Assuming the total amount of suffering will be the same
regardless of whether the soldier lives or dies, and assuming you
can't 'split' morphine doses, the ones who live will have the
memory of their suffering as additional sources of suffering.
The ones who die will not. Thus to minimize suffering you should
administer the morphine to ones who will live. -- ilyas
\- the utilitarian approach here is subject to the
cookie monster problem. it also would say "if it
would make a racist hick sitting at home in west
virginia less happy to know you are treating a
black solider over a white soldier, you must factor
in his displeasure". --psb
\_ But which is worse, the memory of having endured great pain, or
the memory of the cries of the dying?
\_ I thought morphine was purely a comfort thing and, in fact,
increases bleeding. If you're more likely to die with the
morphine, why not give it to the ones already dying?
\_ How long until the dieing die? How long until the wounded are no
longer in pain or more morphine iis available? I'd minimize total
duration of suffering. OTOH, if giving morphine to those will live
will signifigant improve their outcome, they win.
\- Why dont you read a book such as: Thomas Nagle: Equality and
Partiality, http://csua.org/u/7pp BTW, Nagle was teaching at
Berkeley last term. Dunno if he is still around. You need some
ethical framework to talk about this intelligently and an anon
MOTD discussion isnt a great format for this. There are lots
of other recommendations if you are specific about what you are
interested in. --psb
\- One substantial comment: maybe there is no right answer, but
there are certainly many many wrong answers. "I'd auction
the morphine off to the 5 willing to pay the most" is probably
not an "ethical allocation". --psb
\_ how many bullets do we have to put the dying out of their misery?
\_ Give them to your friends first, then to the people who sound
like they're hurting the most. Those left out will certainly think
this is fair. If your medical training tells you that some should
have priority, that naturally competes with friendship.
\_ if they're gonna die, let them die. Give the morphines to the
ones who will live so that they can live to tell others what a
great medic you are. -guy without morals
\_ say f$# it and take the morphine yourself |
| 2004/6/3 [Health, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:30560 Activity:moderate |
6/3 Ok, who wants to share my recursion theory pain? I just spent a really
long time on a problem, and I want to make some volunteer suffer like
I did. If there's any interest, I ll post the problem. -- ilyas
\_ Hah! You want us to do your homework, huh? The problem is
trivial. Check the man pages or look it up on Sun's website.
\_ It's true that this is my homework, but I did make sure to do
it first, before posting. -- ilyas
\_ The answer must be in the man pages somewhere.
\_ go ahead, i'm game
\_ seconded
\_ Ok. For the purposes of this problem, we are dealing with
functions which accept a set of bitstrings as input, and
output bitstrings. The problem is to construct two
(computable) functions f and g with the following properties:
(a) f and g take two arguments each
(b) for any two inputs, f returns a turing machine (TM)
where the language it accepts is decidable and disjoint
from the language accepted by a TM returned by g.
(g must also return a decidable TM).
(c) if f is given as input any two TMs (in your favorite
bitstring encoding) that accept complementary languages,
f returns an encoding for a TM which accepts the same
language as argument 1, and if g is given same, it
returns an encoding for a TM which accepts the same
language as argument 2.
Note: if f or g return a 'malformed' bitstring, which does
not code a TM, the accepted language is considered to be
empty (hence decidable). Note 2: all finite sets are
decidable. This problem is very hard. I posted it
because I am a sadist. -- ilyas
\_ My guess is that you first make f do something
reasonable. Then you make g have a copy of f inside
it so that g can do the opposite. You said that the
problem was very hard, though, so perhaps this
strategy runs into decidability problems.
\_ Sure, this works fine. You do have to figure out how
to make f do something reasonable, though. --mconst |
| 2004/5/31 [Health, Health/Men, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:30509 Activity:high |
5/31 http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2709203 The article itself isn't that great, but at the end is the amusing fact: "Now that the police routinely test offenders for drugs, they are noticing that certain chemicals seem to be associated with certain types of crime. One Home Office study of 3,000 arrestees found that those pulled in for burglary and shoplifting were more likely to test positive for heroin than anyone else. Muggers and purse-snatchers, though, were most likely to be cocaine or crack users." -So, know your area's drug of choice, and prepare! \_ The pot heads don't commit crimes? Stuck at home on the couch without the will to go rip someone off? \_ Sounds like the beginning of a drug dealer infomercial. "Are you a pot head? Stuck at home? Just can't get up the enery to go out and mug someone? Then Crack Cocaine may be energy to go out and mug someone? Then Crack Cocaine may be for you! Ask your local drug dealer about Crack Cocaine. Side affects may include heart attack and a "hanging around with butt holes" sensation. |
| 2004/5/19 [Health, Health/Eyes] UID:30284 Activity:high |
5/18 Is there a way to find out information about your doctor, like history,
school where he got the MD from, malpractice, lawsuits, etc? Question
2, can you request information from the hospital, like lab results,
x-ray, injection used during the surgery, etc? any help would be
appreciated.
\_ For #2, if you mean *your* medical records then of course!
\_ Sounds like you need to call a lawyer.
\_ 1: State Medical Board. http://www.medbd.ca.gov
\_ I second the website for state medical board. You can check your
doctor online. You can also call the medical board of CA and talk
to someone live. You also have every right to all your medical
records. With new HIPAA laws, though, you will probably have to
fill out a request form, or otherwise put a letter in writing
requesting specified medical records. I make it a habit to
check all my doctors, and I keep a copy of significant medical
records (like for surgeries) for myself. Not a bad idea these
days. --chris |
| 2004/5/14 [Health] UID:30224 Activity:nil |
5/13 http://csua.org/u/7av Woman lives without portion of skull for nearly four months because of insurance snag, with pictures! (work-safe) \_ URL shortened. \_ Insurance snag? You mean Ashcroft and the rest of the BushCo repulsiviKKKans conspired to personally ruin this woman's life! \_ "I'm a good person, just not as rich as some of them." I beg to differ, drunk-driving without licence lady. \_ Not to mention not wearing a seatbelt and having no insurance. I wonder why her mother's insurance company would pay for her. I think the insurance company should sue her afterwards for causing the accident. |
| 2004/5/5 [Health, Health/Sleeping] UID:30035 Activity:high |
5/5 Why does the public refer to what's going on in Iraq as "abuse"
and not torture? [topic taken from boingboing]
\_ because the major media are corporate stooges parroting the
administration's talking points.
\_ From http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/39/a39r046.htm
1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any
act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is
intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or
a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a
third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or
intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on
discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at
the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or
other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or
suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means
any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or
mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as
obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession,
punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is
suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a
third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind,
when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of
or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other
person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or
suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful
sanctions.
\_ because when you pick an American off the street and say U.S.
soldiers were caught torturing Iraqis, they think, "What? Did
they chop off their fingers/ears?"
\_ much of the abuse was not from soldiers. and that's very
different from sodomizing them?
\_ If such photos were aired or talked about by CBS, I'm
sure you would have headlines that read, "Photographs
showing American military personnel sodomizing prisoners"
\_ People think of torture as physical pain.
\_ You sincerely believe the pictures show torture? |
| 2004/4/26 [Health] UID:13382 Activity:nil |
4/26 Mary-Kate Olsen on drug addiction:
"If I had a drug addiction, I would be in a thingy--like Promises, the
Malibu [rehab] place. You don't see me there. So, like, come on. It's
crazy." |
| 2004/4/23 [Health] UID:13350 Activity:nil |
4/23 Is there a way to check if some drugs are safe to use? How to I google
that? Do all drugs sold in the US have to have FDIC cert labels? If
that is true, I can just check for FDIC labels right?
\_ If the label says "increase your manhood 3 sizes." I'm guessing
it's not safe.
\_ From your personal experience?
\_ LOL, good one.
\_ OMG WTF?!
\_ doesn't those drugs FDIC regulated as well?
\_ You Fool! Manhood that large will destabilize the middle east
for years to come!
\_ Why do you hate America's Manhood?
\_ Remember that erections lasting longer than 4 hours (though rare)
require immediate medical attention. Word of the day: "priapism".
\_ bullshit.
\_ Erections like that will destabilize the middle east for years to
come.
\_ Why do you hate America's Erection?
\_ FDIC? Do you mean FDA?
\_ yeah, FDA, FDIC is for banks. haha |
| 2004/4/18 [Health] UID:13255 Activity:nil |
4/18 Has anyone else else got, or know someone who's got an insane sore
throat, fever of up to 102 and like an incredibly painful TONGUE?!
Am I going to die??????
\_ in a word, yes.
\_ how about some more specific information.
\_ Go see a doctor, fool. -ausman
\_ there is one crazy bump on the top of my tongue, and
the tip of my tongue kills whenever it touches anything
and it hurts too much to swallow except under the inf.
of massive tylenol! is this strep throat?
\_ This all sounds really scary to me. Go see a
doctor ASAP, or at least call an advice nurse. |
| 2004/3/15-16 [Health] UID:12688 Activity:kinda low |
3/15 Where can I look to find information on what happens when medicine
(prescription and otc) expires? Something like erowid but for legal
drugs. I'm curious as to what I'm actually doing when I take old
tylenol or spread anti-itch ointment on my skin- what's the
effective half-life of the drug, what's the worstcase scenario, etc
Thanks.
\_ idiot, throw them out.
\_ He might be unemployed and wants to save money. |
| 2004/3/5-6 [Health, Industry/Jobs] UID:12546 Activity:nil |
3/5 http://store.nimanranch.com/store/nimanranch/help3.jsp This FAQ is particularly enlightening. \_ That's also disgusting. Who feeds plastic to animals for "roughage"? |
| 2004/3/1-2 [Health, Health/Women] UID:12474 Activity:nil |
3/1 "I did drug deal but no spying."
[Israeli handed over in prisoner exchange last month.]
http://csua.org/u/68c |
| 2004/2/22-23 [Health] UID:12349 Activity:nil |
2/22 Dear motd personal trainer: Is using an elliptical machine as
effective as a treadmill? (the goal is weight loss and i'm worried
about impact on the knees).
\_ why are you considering the elliptical machine over treadmill?
\_ He said "i'm worried about impact on the knees".
\_ I've been losing weight at the rate of about 2lbs per week
largely on an elliptical trainer. I work hard, though: 52
minutes/day in 140-150 heart rate range. If you believe the
calorie count, it is MORE effective than equivalent time/effort
on a treadmill.
\_ Elliptical training is for the weak - the numbers make it
look far more impressive than it is. Stairmaster creams it
by a factor of 2x on a calorie count.
\_ ellipticals are not at all for the weak. they're meant
to be a very low-impact way of getting aerobic exercise.
they work slower than some machines and quicker than
others, but it has nothing to do with being weak or not.
nice try.
\- the stairmasters that have real steps in an infinte loop
rather than the pedals that just go up and down seems
pretty good to me. i ran up those for a couple of months
before heading off to nepal. i also operate those on manual
rather than program modes and just always push pretty
hard with a sprint at the end and maybe a breather now
and then. treadmill with a manually varied slope is also
reasonable, --psb
\_ Calorie count is worthless. You can't lose significant weight
from exercise alone.
\_ My 2lbs per week weight loss and I beg to differ. Is
14 lbs "significant"?
\_ i've been using the elliptical due to knee problems as well,
and it is good at low angle and low resistance, but i have now
found that my knees are again the limiting factor, as my cardio
conditioning is now good enough that i can't get my heart rate
up without causing too much strain on my knees. i've recently
added treadmill to my workouts for short periods of time and so
far my knees have been okay with it, but we'll see! it's a much
more intense cardio workout and if you are interested in training
for actual activity like hiking or whatnot, gives a realistic and
transferrable muscle workout, unlike the elliptical, which has
helped my overall cardio conditioning, but otherwise hasn't really
seemed to help my hiking all that much. -lila |
| 2004/2/15-17 [Health, Health/Sleeping] UID:12264 Activity:nil |
2/15 anyone own the Sharper Image air filter? Is it really better than
HEPA filetrs? Is it worth getting? Please respond only if you have
it, thanks.
\_ I bought one of these at Bed Bath and Beyond. It doubles as a
humidifier. It's hard for me to tell how effective it is as an
air filter since I really don't have much of a dust problem.
http://www.venta-airwasher.com
\_ Well, I know someone who liked them. They do collect stuff pretty
well, and are silent and simple to maintain. But I've read a
consumer reports article that basically said there are much better
air filters.
\_ Honeywell HEPA air filters are more effective, cheapter and
easier to maintain than Sharper Image's. I got mine at Home
Depot. -allergic to everything
\_ Hepa filters are expensive to replace, so how can they be cheaper
than a wipe-n-walk device like SI's?
\_ Buy replacement filters online. They are much cheaper. The
S.I. air filters may be silent, but how many changes of air
per hour? Are they really cleaning the air effectively? I
don't think so.
\_ Those are two different issues. Buying filters online is
still more expensive than something that *never* requires
a new filter. I don't own either. I don't know which
cleans better or how much better one does than the other.
\_ DO NOT GET ONE IF YOU HAVE ASTHMA! What they don't tell you is that
their ion technology produces ozone, a pollutant that will greatly
exacerbate the symptoms of asthmatics. I have the Hamilton Beach
HEPA filter and love it. Yeah, it can be loud when cleaning a room
from an introduced pollutant, but it adjusts its speed and intensity
based on the quality of the air. It is usually pretty quiet, and I
actually sleep better with some background noise. Also, you may
like to know that there is a class-action lawsuit against sharper
image because of the ozone their unit produces hurting people with
asthma. The best ones are the BlueAir and IQAir (I think) HEPA
filters, but they cost more than I can afford. |
| 2004/2/9-10 [Health] UID:12178 Activity:very high |
2/9 Does MyDoom keep sending out emails? I'm getting a lot today and I
thought this one was dying. Is it just people getting their emails
that came over the weekend? [formatd]
\_ MyDoom.A is supposed to expire on the 12th. MyDoom.B sometime in
March. --scotsman
\_ But does it send emails just on the intial infection, or do they
keep coming?
\_ Looking at our logs, I would say they just keep sending.
--scotsman |
| 2004/1/22 [Recreation/Food, Health] UID:29752 Activity:nil 72%like:11892 |
1/22 Eat well. Exercise:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=reviewsNews&storyID=4173861 |
| 2004/1/22-23 [Health, Recreation/Food] UID:11892 Activity:nil 72%like:29752 |
1/22 Eat well, and exercise:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=reviewsNews&storyID=4173861
\_ Take the stairs instead of the elevator/escalator. Sometimes you
can even get there quicker. |
| 2004/1/16 [Health, Computer/HW/Memory] UID:11805 Activity:nil |
1/15 ecstasy and pot users read:
http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/medicine_health/report-24750.html
\_ So you heard about what happened to the last study that supposedly
proved Ecstacy was bad for you, right? Completely debunked and
shown to be be based not just on biased research but on completely
bogus research. That's not even mentioning how bad science reporting
typically is, or how its usual tendency towards simplification is
amplified whenever illegal drugs are involved. This study, even
from the simplistic description in the article, sounds fatally
flawed. Fact is, no substance in excess is good for you. The
two substances most likely to kill you, alchohol and cigarettes,
are legal and taxed. The drug war is hypocrisy of the worst sort
and has become a self-perpetuating industry powered by the prison
lobby and other assorted interests.
\_ The op isn't saying they should be banned. If you don't
care whether there are negative effects--inside your own head--
from drug use, feel free to continue sticking your head in the
sand.
\_ For what its worth: a med student friend who has done
e a few times will not do it again after learning about
the physiology of its affects on the brain.
\_ op here: I made no statement about anything. Why are you so
incredibly defensive? If you're willing to take the risk, you
are welcome to. No one will miss you later. The info is there
so those not willing to take such risks may be informed of the
possibilities. Everyone who smokes or drinks is 100% aware of
the risks. Why would you try to hide similar information about
the substances you're addicted to (psychologically if not
physically)? When you first share drugs with a virgin do you
really tell them the drugs are perfectly safe? I hope not.
At best it is unlikely and unproven. At worst you are setting
them up for a seriously fucked future in the name of pushing
your own political agenda and addictions. No one *needs*
'recreational' drugs. It is a choice that should be made with
all available information on the table. --op
\_ this article is very poorly written. Anyone reading this really
should just ignore the reporter's distinction of cannabis-->
short term memory impairment and X --> long term memory impairment.
Without clarifying his definitions of STM and LTM, it's pointless.
It also fails to clarify possible issues with (anonymous?) internet
survey methodology, and further fails to even mention cofactors,
drug-interaction effects on the results, and other such issues
which _need_ to be addressed. I have no clue if the researchers
addressed these issues. If not, the research is shitty. If so,
the reporter did a shitty job. -nivra |
| 2004/1/14-15 [Health] UID:11777 Activity:nil |
1/13 Crossbow or Bowflex?
\_ windsor pilates.
\_ Get a bench and some free weights. Cheaper and better.
\_ Don't want/can't get a spotter when I'm working out at home. |
| 2003/11/25-26 [Health, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:11227 Activity:moderate |
11/25 Cato Institute:
"Cato's director of health and welfare studies said, "Today's
passage of the Medicare prescription drug bill represents a return
to 1960's Great Society-style big government. Congress has failed in
its responsibility to reform Medicare, choosing instead to simply
throw money at the problem. It is our children and grandchildren who
will bear the cost of this massive new entitlement program."
http://www.cato.org/pressroom/index.html#medicare
\_ More importantly, they chose to throw money at the money-grubbing
HMOs, which lobbied very hard for this one.
\_ It's also a big chunk-o-welfare to drug companies, as the
government will be paying the full asking price for drugs.
Not only will more people be taking patented drugs, but those
who move from HMO coverage will bring more money to BigPharm, as
the HMOs can negotiate prices, but the gov't cannot.
\_ I told you before: republican bill bad, democrat bill good.
\_ Yes, you told us before, but you're just an obvious troll and
you're not saying anything of substance.
\_ It's not a troll if it's true. And who on is here saying
anything of substance? The typical response is, "you're
wrong and I hate you because you don't believe what I do
and I won't respond further because I don't like your
sources because I don't like their editors". You're so
damned self blind and clueless. |
| 2003/11/20 [Health] UID:11159 Activity:nil |
11/19 This hasn't been posted in a while, if ever. The intellectual
whores homepage! Take it to heart, it's 99% true.
http://www.dallaslynn.com/iw/index.html |
| 2003/11/4-5 [Health] UID:10931 Activity:low |
11/3 Can anyone recommend a decent heart monitor? My dad has started
getting into physical fitness, but he likes to work out at home on
antiquated equipment, so I was hoping to get a decent heart monitor
so he can keep track of how hard he's really working (and I'd like to
get one for myself, come to think of it). TIA.
\_ Just bought a basic Polar (A3) for my dad. Sometimes my dad has
to put a little water on the sensor (as per their instructions)
before it starts detecting a heart rate. One good thing I
found was that the treadmills, etc. at the gym of my apartment
complex has Polar HRM built-in so when using those machines,
one doesn't need to wear the watch, just the sensor. I presume
the protocol is proprietary such that it won't work with
other brands?
\_ I bought a Polar for me, and one for my wife, and we love them.
They are the biggest name, I believe. http://www.polarusa.com -ax
\_ finger. wrist. count.
\_ And how exactly does this help the economy? you obviously
HATE AMERICA!!
\_ Sports Instruments ECG5. Heart rate monitors can lose signal near
sources of electromagnetic interference (such as when biking past
high voltage power lines). When a Polar HRM loses signal, you
have to manually restart it. The Sports Instruments HRMs will
automatically restart as soon as they start receiving a signal
again. They're available for about $60 from http://ediscountbike.com.
-alawrenc |
| 2003/10/11 [Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:10589 Activity:nil |
10/10 Rush admits being addicted to Oxycontin and Vicodin:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/10/rush.limbaugh/index.html
\_ at least had the courage to admit it
\_ Yeah, after every major paper in the nation carried a story
about it. That's not courage, that's called 'saving face' and
isn't even related. Sorry.
\_ Why should he have said anything earlier? It's called
getting outted. It's his personal problem and I don't see
you on here bagging on all your drug addicted leftist
actor/activist heroes from hollywood.
\_ Well...because they're exepcted to be fuckups. There's
a basic issue of hypocrisy in Rush's case. To be clear:
outted != courage or courageous -- I know what the term
means, but you seem to be confused about it.
\_ Shrug. |
| 2003/10/8-9 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:10532 Activity:nil |
10/8 Mystery blood clots killing the troops:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031006-113325-5591r
\_ Clearly an evil Bushco Conspiracy(tm)! Recall Bushco!
\_ You do know that often military personnel will be subject
to what amounts to involuntary, uncontrolled "trials" of
new vaccines/medications.
\_ Which always get into the press. With 130k dudes walking
around in the heat in full battle gear downing MREs theres
going to be some bad things happening to some people. We
already covered the conspiracy thing in this thread.
\_ Fuck off brownshirt.
\_ *laugh* Whatever. You're so lost.
\_ Did you even read the article? It has nothing to do
with the bush administration/politics.
\_ Of course not. Why would I read the url before adding my
comments? It's the motd and it's got something to do with
the troops so I'm just getting to the point right away. Sorry
if I ruined the buildup and lengthy trolling. |
| 2003/10/4-5 [Health] UID:10461 Activity:nil |
10/3 So I'm a big time radio personality making $500 million on my current
contract and I buy drugs from my maid instead of doctor shopping until
I get the one that will prescribe what I want? My idiotic white trash
mother in law manages to get all the drugs she can stand (or pass out
on) through doctors, I think Rush could, too.
\_ A. You don't know the facts of the case. So you have no idea
on what is going on.
B. It's obvious you are white trash.
\_ BWAHAHHAHAHA!!! If you brought hitler into this you'd have a
perfecta!! I read the stuff on the smoking gun which is more
than you have. I love (B). That just fucking kills me. I'm
totally fucking rolling! Thanks for making my day. You rock! |
| 2003/9/16 [Health, Computer/HW/Memory, Politics] UID:10206 Activity:low |
9/16 You gotta love how these studies are trumpeted all over the news,
but then when they are discredited and retracted its barely mentioned:
http://csua.org/u/4c6
\_ And pot turns you into a werewolf
\_ Oh man, no *wonder* I've been waking up naked covered in blood.
\_ "We're scientists, not politicians... but we're not chemists."
Great article, thank you.
\_ There was no original study trumpeted anywhere but I've seen
variations on this article for a week. Shut yer whining trap and
go get stoned then flip my burger.
\_ You missed all the hooplah about ecstasy and memory damage and
the rest? Wow.
\_ It's all the crack. It does bad stuff to memory. I think.
\_ There was no hooplah unless you're a big ecstasy fanboy.
The rest of us saw an article or two and moved on because
it wasn't a bfd.
\_ Sorry, wrong. This study was used to promote a very
serious law and criminalized raves. It was a very big
deal for a lot of people, and was covered nationwide.
However, I do believe people are making a big deal of the
retraction as well.
\_ "for a lot of people". translation: the niche crowd
raving on ecstasy. the other 99.999% didn't care the
first time or anymore about the retraction. this is
just the ravers being self centered and overly inner
focussed. there are a shitload of laws passed everyday
that have a negative impact on my life and you don't see
me bitching about being oppressed everytime they pass or
repeal such a law. its a party drug. it has zero
beneficial medical uses when taken while dancing all
night to bad music with a water bottle in hand.
\_ It's also a useful psychiatric tool that's been
classified with crack and heroin as having "zero
medical benefits" because of a flawed study.
It's important to everyone because it shows how
willing government-backed scientist will be to
loudly and falsely proclaim that drugs are bad.
By the way, I've NEVER tried E or been to a rave.
I am, however, angered by my country's screwy and
self-defeating drug policy. |
| 2003/9/12-13 [Health] UID:10170 Activity:nil |
9/12 Boycott <DEAD>bn.com<DEAD>. My $70 book arrived with a crease and small tear on the cover. I emailed them to complain, and was told I could ship it back to them for a return or exchange, but that I had to use insured UPS and that they would not pay for my shipping expense, but they 'apologize for the inconvenience'. This is a heavy book; the UPS site estimates that the shipping charge will be $18+. Royal pain in the ... \- boycott those to lazy/leem to format properly. if you paid on a CC, use their merchant dispute system. --psb \_ I've got friends working book retail. Plenty of reasons to boycott B&N besides that. -bz \_ why did you buy it online from bn? If you are buying from bn, the b&m store is the way to go. \_ can't you return B&N online purchaces at any brick and mortar store? |
| 2003/9/9 [Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:29523 Activity:high |
9/8 Nearly the saddest thing I've ever read.
http://csua.org/u/47e (netscape.com site)
\_ Wow, playing counterstrike and warcraft
now counts as exercise.
The walking bits gets me. Why is walking
consider moderate excersize?
\_ THAT gets you? What about the purposeless wandering?
\_ I dunno, I can purposelessly wander pretty damn fast.
\_ cool, my life is "light exercise"!
\_ I dunno, can anybody find the document that article used as a
source? The most likely candidate I could find was this:
http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/physical/pdf/PA_Intensity_table_2_1.pdf
which makes it seem to me like that article is a gross
exageration.
\_ Of course the article is crap. It isn't mainsteam media's job
to inform but to create new and manipulate popular opinion to be
more in line with what the reporters and their editors want you
to believe. |
| 2003/9/8-9 [Health] UID:10116 Activity:kinda low |
9/8 What is the best schedule for working on abs?
everyday or alternate days? is the rest neccessary or
is the every-day-workout-always-sore thing the best?
\_ i have read that you can work out your abs up to 6 days
in a row
\_ I've seen both stances made. These muscles are pretty big
ones, but I'd still suggest alternating a lighter day between
a hard day if you want to go daily.
\_ you really don't need to work out your abs more than you work out
other muscles. everyone has abs, really, it's just the layer of
fat that's covering it up, and no amount of ab work alone can
reduce it (hint: fat spot reduction is a myth). it basically comes
down to diet, aerobics, and weight-training in general.
\_ Yes, but you won't get a 6 pack losing the fat.
\_ Toning the underlying muscles will shrink the wasitline, however.
\_ Not necessarily -- it really depends on diet, exercise, and
supplementation (if any).
\_ Not necessarily.
\_ And genetics. Some are just doomed.
\_ Just thrust harder and faster in bed. Killing two birds with one
\_ And genetics. Some are just doomed.
stone. (Or is it whirling the bird with two stones? :-) ) |
| 2003/9/5-6 [Health] UID:10095 Activity:nil |
9/5 Anyone here take flaxseeds (high omega-3). Does it taste bad?
\_ yes I do. You can't taste it because it's in a gel capsule.
Unless you're trying to drink the thing (I don't recommend that).
\_ you can buy raw flaxseeds in supermarkets and they taste ok
(almost no taste)
\_ Flaxseed oil is supposed to add a nutty flavor to a salad....
\_ Flaxseed gloop [Google for it, but don't bother with the
cheesecloth method of separation] is a good egg substitute
and adds a nutty flavor, but may not preserve the omega-3s.
Anyway, they're seeds, so for taste think sesame, poppy, etc.... |
| 2003/9/2-3 [Health, Recreation/Food] UID:10046 Activity:nil |
9/2 Are some nuts more healthy than others? I eat a lot of dried fruit
at work and I'd like to branch out. So do I go almonds, cashews,
walnuts, peanuts, etc., or are they all pretty much the same?
\_ French ones are good, but I prefer Italians, since most of them
are nuts anyway.
\_ Walnuts are high in omega-3 fatty acids. Heart health++.
Almonds have some too, but also have lots of calcium.
\_ Also, avoid roasted nuts. It kills the omega-3 fatty acids.
\_ so what is the point then?
\_ unroasted almonds still taste pretty good. unroasted cashews
are pretty gross, though. You might also try to roast the
nuts yourself in good oil (maybe olive oil?) and lightly
salt to taste. |
| 2003/9/1-2 [Transportation/Car, Health] UID:10028 Activity:very high |
8/31 I am in the transition from being employed to unemployed or hopefully
self-employed later on. One of the things that worry me is health
insurance just for myself. Will it become much more expensive?
I am generally healthy but already in my early 30s'. What
company/package do people in similar situation buy?
\_ If you are a Christian, you may want to try:
http://www.christianebuy.com/medishare2.html
I think it's good for tiding things over while unemployed or if
one has financial difficulties, but coverage is probably more
basic than what you get from your employer. About $100 per month.
They say they save costs by not supporting people with
unhealthy lifestyles (drugs, sex, etc.). At first, I have some
misgivings about that, but thinking more, there is nothing wrong
with it.
\_ jesus crashed my browser.
\_ How do they verify that the subscriber is a christian? Can one
convert? And what if the subscriber lost his faith after
subscription? Although I can't help my misgiving, this is a
serious question. The Evans link that site connects to suggests
subscription? Although I can't help my misgiving, this is
a serious question. The link that site connect to suggests
that these people are not real Christians. Rather they seem to
be fundamentalist fanatics intent on a worldwide revolution.
If they are a chirstian's version of Hamas or Islamic Brotherhood
just trying to gain popularity support by pretending nice it's
fine. But it tries to set up cells of devotees I smell danger.
that these people are not real Christians. Rather they seem to
be fundamentalist fanatics intent on a worldwide revolution.
If I am really desperate I might want to try that health plan,
if they won't send Christ's soldier or army of god to my home.
When really desperate one might want to try their health plan,
if they won't send Christ's soldier or army of god for checkups.
\_ You need your pastor to sign off. Other than that, they just
cheap medical plans ($42/mo) with high deductibles ($2400).
trust you, I guess. Oh, also a nurse would call you after
your application is sent in to ask you some questions
regarding our medical history. I am not sure what you mean by
"Evans link". Most faiths have some fanatical nuts. The few of
those who used it thinks it's good. Sample size is small. My
family doctor, who is Hindu, says she would accept the plan
\_ Don't forget that cobra is retroactive for approx. 60 days.
\_ does Cobra have a good medical plan? I always wondered why
people would want to join an evil terrorist organization that
always loses to G.I.Joe.
\_ because they never die. hard to beat that.
cheap medical plans ($42/mo) with high deductibles ($2400).
those super-cheap insurers you find later are just pyramind scams.
as insurance without problem.
\_ Supposedly, Kaiser has a really cheap (~ $30/month) major-medical
only plan. No Dr.'s visits, prescriptions, etc.. save that for
when you're employed. But at least if you crash and burn, you
won't be going to the city hospital.
\_ where is this cheap Kaiser plan? When I get a quote, it gives
me an estimate of $154/mo. Anyhow. Blue Shield of CA has some
cheap medical plans ($42/mo) but with high deductibles ($2400).
\_ It's really fudge up out there. My aunt/uncle, retired, have to
pay $900/month for insurance. With deductibles. If anyone knows
of good leads for health insurance, lots of people (unemployed,
self-employed, semi-retired) need it. As long it's not one of
those super-cheap insurers you find later are just pyramind scams.
\_ "I don't think the American people want to hear about healthcare."
-Joe Liebermann
\_ Don't forget that cobra is retroactive for approx. 60 days.
\_ does Cobra have a good medical plan? I always wondered why
people would want to join an evil terrorist organization that
always loses to G.I.Joe.
\_ because they never die. hard to beat that.
\_ http://ehealthinsurance.com -- never used them myself but they were
recommended to me at one time. also, check out COBRA with your
current employer. it might be pricey, but will continue your
existing coverage for 18 months. important to try to not let
health insurance lapse, as it is REALLY hard to get new coverage
after a 6 month lapse...and it may f*ck with pre-existing condition
clauses with any new insurance policies. --chris
\_ What is with this continuity requirement? Any url? I only
knew auto insurance cared about lapses but I guess I was poorly
informed. Would living aborad while under various kind of
foreign employee insurance and/or travel/ex-pat insurance count
as lapses? I guess COBRA does not apply to such cases? |
| 2003/8/30-31 [Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:10019 Activity:low |
8/30 Can someone explain briefly what blood types are about and why this
woman died?
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_814563.html?menu=news.latestheadlines
\_ Dude, really. This is what google was made for. Or Biology 1, for
that matter. Take a couple of seconds to pull your own weight.
\_ Whatever. I did. I don't want a thesis paper. Something half
as long as it took you to abuse me would have been enough and
I still don't know.
\_ Give a man a fish...
\_ Not only is OP lazy, but also ungrateful.
\_ Red blood cells have "antigens" on their surfaces. People's immune
systems react to these "antigens". There are 3 major surface
antigens: A, B, and RH+. If you don't have either the A or B
antigen in your blood, you are blood type O. If you do not have
the RH+ antigen, you are RH-. Now, if you're type O, and someone
puts type B blood into you, your body reacts pretty much allergicly
to the B surface antigen. If you're type AB+, your body won't
react with any of the common surface antigens, A, B, nor RH+.
\_ Thanks!
react with any of the common surface antigens, A, B, nor RH+.
\_ Not only is OP lazy, but also ungrateful.
\_ Thanks! |
| 2003/8/27-28 [Health] UID:29493 Activity:moderate |
8/26 get infected --Jon: http://kevan.org/proce55ing/zombies \_ I love the zombie mob effect. \_ just goes to show how totally unprepared mankind is against a zombie attack. won't somebody please think of the children?? \_ I feel your pain! |
| 2003/8/23 [Health] UID:29446 Activity:nil |
8/22 Anyone know if prescription pain killers can be found online
w/o a prescription?
\_ I would know. |
| 2003/8/8-9 [Health] UID:29285 Activity:moderate |
8/8 Russian health resort vs Guantanamo Bay prison:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030808/od_nm/odd_russia_guantanamo_dc_1
\_ This must be CIA propaganda - we all know the US is evil
and the source of all problems in the world (particularly
Bush)
\_ Yeah! Death to those evil Amurikans! Hate them all! Much
better to live in some shithole.
\_ one of you two dingbats needs to recalibrate your
sarcasm filters.
\_ we both know what's up. you're the odd one out here.
go re-read what we both said and recalibrate your own
filters, oh great dingbattish one!
\_ as if this guy has ever been to a Russian health resort. Unlikely.
\_ how would you know? |
| 2003/6/24-25 [Health, Industry/Startup] UID:28827 Activity:high |
6/24 WRS CEO resigns.
\_ this is the equivalent of Apple canning Scully (former pepsi
executive). If only they had a Steve Jobs to rescue them. Oh,
the pain, the pain...
\_ WRS?
\_ Wind River Systems.
\_ A bigger bunch of assclowns never walked the earth.
\_ Just go to VA or RH and you can meet much bigger
assclowns.
\_ At least, RHAT seems like a company with a viable business
plan. VA indeed was a bunch of assclowns.
\_ They'll have some real competition when Green Hills goes IPO.
They'll be squeezed by M$, Green Hills, and Linux. |
| 2003/5/19-20 [Health, Health/Men] UID:28491 Activity:high |
5/19 Exercise advice sought: If I am just trying to tone up a little
can I do something like 400-500 curls with 10lbs dumbells or will
that little weight not do anything? Better to do half as many
with 20lbs? I am a small stature person.
\_ Hi, small stature person!
\_ If you want to bulk up, do enough weight so that you can just
barely do 3 sets of 12. If you just want toning, take yoga.
\_ 2nded. You'll get results more quickly this way, and at 20lbs
you need not fear of turning into that enormous guy at the gym
with hairy shoulders. Just make sure your form is good if
you're just starting off w/ weights.
\_ tone != bulk. If you want tone and definition, you do want more
reps with lower weight. Try 3-5 sets of 15-20 reps. More reps
per set if you like.
\_ That is why I asked if 400x10lbs or 200x20lbs would be
better.
\_ You should never need to do 400 or even 200 reps (I hope
you're just giving exagerrated numbers for effect). The
above poster is right... find a weight where you can just
barely do 20 or even 25 reps and work from there. Oh, and
something that gets lost in the equation of toning/bulking:
diet. You can have the perfect workouts, with the ideal
weights, sets, reps, exercises, form, etc., but it won't
that the hard way (yes, I've been improvement once I cut
down on the french fries)
make a difference until you start eating right. I learned
that the hard way (yes, I've seen improvement after I cut
out the fast food)
\_ Don't listen to these people who haven't tried it! I would
recommend 800-1000 curls with 5 lbs, I have had very
effective results with that. Try it for yourself!
\_ Sounds like a recipie for tendonitis. Curls, like most
weight work, isolates a particular muscle group. Unlike
exercizes that impact a larger number of muscles, weight
work is not suitable for rep counts. There is debate over
whether the 30-rep sets are safe. Even the high-rep clique
at the gym would agree that 800 is crazy.
\- I dont claim to have a particularly sane exercise program
but some comments: 1. first i think doing a few hundred
curls of low weight should be ok. it is probably like using
a rowing machine for 20-30 min. 2. if you goal is tone and
general fitness with a low target and without joining a gym
or buying pricey equipment, then i'd just run like 3miles
3-4 times a week. that moves large muscles unlike the curl
program and will probably burn more calories and get your
mtabolism up and your fat level down. if you ear a reasonable
mtabolism up and your fat level down. if you eat a reasonable
amount of protein, it is easy to bulk up arms for men. legs
are a lot more work. --psb
\_ The problem is that with any serious weight and crazy high
repetitions, it's very possible to give yourself a RSI. This
is especially true if you have no idea what you're doing and
have little or no idea of good form. This is a very hard
lesson to learn by injuring yourself.
\_ Isometrics, son. It's all about isometrics.
\_ I don't think you ever need to worry about bulking up
unintentionally. If it was that easy to get big, you wouldn't
see people spending 24x7 in the gym, drinking protein shakes,
taking supplements, and reading muscle magazines. Start with
a standard excercise routine which you can find in any excercise
book or web page and if you notice yourself getting "too big",
cut back on the weight and increase your reps/sets by 15%. -emin
\_ Here's a question. Why do any of this? Simply to look better? I
can think of a dozen kinds of exercise that will keep you in shape
and certainly sound more enjoyable than endless reps in a gym or
some room in one's house. I suppose I need to give partha credit for
hinting at the same point. I swim about a mile a day and I'll bet,
if nothing else, I have more interesting things to look at. :)
\- i sort of got addicted to swimming for a while and was swimming
maybe 10-12 miles a week. i dont think swimming gets you very
far unless you have a lot of discipline [i.e. you do the
equivalent of running intervals] or you combine with weights.
if you do the equivalent of a slow jog in the pool, it doesnt
get you very far. if i am totally out of shape then i start
my aerobic conditioning by swimming, since it's hard to get
motvated to run if you cant even run 2 miles. but otherwise
swimming alone to me is like exercise bike or walking ... for
old people or people who for some other reason, e.g. 50lbs
overweight, cant run or something like that. --psb |
| 2003/5/18-19 [Health/Dental, Health] UID:28473 Activity:nil |
5/17 I've never had a physical. I'm wondering if I should get one at Tang.
Has anyone had it done there? What sort of things did they check,
how much was it and how long did it take?
\_ If you're a guy, you can count on bending over.
demand lube
\_ Everything from joints (upper and lower), eyes, ears, throat and
even bottom of your feet for athlete foot. If you're a guy, check
for testicular lumps will be performed (so yes, pants down, boys)
but don't worry, rubber gloves are used and the doctor (male/female)
looks away from your 'tool'. If you're female, doctor will check for
lumps in your breasts area. If you're under 35 chances are the
whole thing will last about 15 mins with the actual physical takes
about 5-7 mins. The rest will be Q&A to figure out your health
history and to update your medical record. If you're at risk of
high cholesterol due to heredity for example, ask for a blood
exam. If you're sexually active, ask for an HIV test (which can
be incl. with your cholesterol test but you have to ask). Unless
they find anything funny you won't have to pee in a cup or anything.
\_ I hope you don't wait another 18+ yrs for your next exam. It's no
big deal, and it's good to establish a baseline of your health so
that you can monitor changes from year to year. As the good ppl
from Nike say, Just Do It!(tm). Also, check out a dentist if you
haven't done so, yet. |
| 2003/5/10 [Health, Health/Sleeping] UID:28401 Activity:nil |
5/10 http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/05/10/offbeat.klingon.interpreter/index.html |
| 2003/5/9-10 [Health] UID:28386 Activity:nil |
5/8 Some places sell prescription drugs and have an online doctor's
consultation. Is this actually legal?
\_ Yes. |
| 2003/5/1 [Health, Health/Women] UID:28284 Activity:high |
4/30 Do you call your general practitioner or a gynocologist for
contraceptives (Orthotricyclene or Ortha-Evra)?
\_ If you think you are likely to reproduce, tell your potential mate
about the latest exciting flame war on the motd, and you will be
safe.
\_ ha, that's a good one. !sarcastic
\_ i go to 7-11
\_ OB/GYN providers can prescribe them
\_ as can general practitioners
\_ http://www.e-scripts-md.com
... among other websites
\_ Go to a Planned Parenthood.
\_ For all motd users the right answer is to self sterilize.
\_ Any physician can write you a prescription for them. However,
I'd recommend a GYN doctor for contraceptives, especially if
this is going to be your first time taking contraceptives. The
doctor should do a pelvic exam to rule out any abnormalities before
prescribing you contraceptives. Plus -- as there are a variety of
birth control pills out there, he/she will have the most expertise
in prescribing the best one for your body. If you want to get
even more specific, try out a reproductive endocrinologist (they
specialize in female hormones and are specialized OBGYNs) who
will measure your hormone levels and get a more accurate
assessment. --chris
\_ this is good advice, especially for a first-timer. Hormones can
make even the most level person experience mood swings and other
weird physical effects, so you definitely want someone who knows
how to adjust a prescription if you or your girlfriend doesn't
handle the regular kind well. |
| 2003/4/24-25 [Finance/CC, Health] UID:28216 Activity:high |
4/24 I don't see what is so unethical or special about Netflix's queueing
system. VISA/mastercard phone support queue is based on how good
a customer you are (platinum vs. regular). My company's support
depends on whether the customer is a gold member or not. This
stuff has been going on for eons.
\_ there's a difference between giving preferential treatement to
good customers, and degrading treatment to good customers. -tom
\_ no. we give preferential treatment to potentially good
customers while still giving good treatment to existing
good customers. -netflix employee
\_ aka "bait and switch"
\_ so netflix has left you feeling degraded and oppressed?
get over it. they'll be gone in a year or two or sold to
MS or something and it won't matter.
\_ I'm not a customer, but I still think it stinks. -tom
\_ Normally I find myself in disagreement with tom,
but I second his opinion on this one.
\_ It's like complaining about how your Edsel or your
Pinto doesn't get the mileage they said it would.
\_ http://Walmart.com offers DVD rentals ala Netflix. You have a choice now. |
| 2003/4/18 [Health] UID:28162 Activity:very high |
4/18 Dear motd personal trainer: I've been lifting weights for awhile,
and I no longer get that stiff, swollen feeling in my muscles the
day afterward. I didn't realize how much I missed it until I did
an exercise I don't commonly do. Does this mean my workout is not
intense enough (more weights? more reps?) or is it unavoidable?
It seems like I'm lifting at about my outer limits (3rd set seems
exhausting) and I don't want to injure myself. Thanks
\_ I used to work out where I did one body part (back, chest,
legs, etc) each day, several exercises for 3 sets each. I
switched to doing 2 full body workouts per week, 1 set per
exercise of multi-joint exercises like squat, deadlift, bench
press, rowing, and have had good results from that.
\_ do you have a full list of the exercises you do? I've made
my own workout, and would be interested in comparing to get
an idea of other things to add in... - mds
\_ One of the golden rules of weight-lifting: change your routine
regularly. Your muscles grow accustomed to any set of exercises
you do over time, hence become efficient at them. Do different
exercises. You can also try supersetting (doing two different
exercises together, eg. bicep curl and tricep pullovers), or
\_ Do you mean simultaneously?
\_ I think the idea is grab a barbell, curl, raise it over
your head, do the tricep extension. Repeat 8-12 times.
Repeat 3 or 4 times.
circuit training (a set of 5-6 different exercises back to back,
rest, then repeat)
\_ Any good varients for straight and incline bench press?
Thanks! - !OP, same problem
\_ decline bench press
\_ I hate the decline, all the blood rushes to my head.
\_ One variation is to use dumbbells instead of barbell. Or you
can try "negatives": do a bench press as normal, but go really
REALLY slow on the way down... like 3-6 seconds. These will
*burn*. Negatives can be used for just about every exercise.
\_ Well alternating light/medium/heavy lift days also work,
or is that not enough variation?
\_ I've rarely alternated between l/m/h, so I can't say.
But a good indication of how heavy you should be doing
is that the third set should always be to exhaustion.
Ideally, you need a spotter to get to a full 10-12 reps.
\_ The trainer I was working with said for "heavy" you
should be looking at a set of 8/6/6 reps, full
exhaustion at the end. Only when the muscle is
"failing" will it have the incentive to build more
\_ That's cuz you're actually ripping and breaking
down the muscle fibers. New muscle can't be built
unless current muscle is destroyed.
\_ false
\_ fair enough, but spell out why:
is it more accurate to say that new
muscle can't be built unless current
muscle is torn?
\_ How long is a while? After a certain point you will stagnate.
To get past that usually involves eating a ton of food, which makes
you gain weight all over, some/most of which is muscle. Then you
get stronger, but fatter too. -ax |
| 2003/4/17-18 [Health/Dental, Health] UID:28157 Activity:nil |
4/17 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/story?id=1539920 Cal/Boller/Tedford on ESPN |
| 2003/4/13-14 [Health, Health/Women] UID:28108 Activity:very high |
4/13 recommendations for a good website about starting out with weight
training for a wuss?
\_ What are your goals? It might help if you clarify that in your
mind before you start googling. Do you want to train for strength,
endurance, tone, bulk, some combination or none of the above,
etc. -mice
\_ my goal is to lose fat, not to muscle up or get definition. i
would be much more comfortable with exercises i can do at home
with smaller weights etc rather than going to the gym or buying
experienced friend to help you out. It's WAY too easy really
heavy duty equipment. I've heard vague things about exercises
where you use your own body weight for resistance, etc. Does
this work? any website recommendations? thanks. -op
\_ every since i left school, my sedentary lifestyle has made me
chubby. my goal is to lose fat, not to muscle up or get
definition for the ladies. i would be much more comfortable
\_ Run, do other cardio. Lifting weights is not going to
accomplish what you seek. It will improve tone as yu
you lose the weight. run 3.5 miles 4x a week, easy loss.
with exercises i can do at home with smaller weights etc rather
than going to the gym or buying heavy duty equipment. I've
heard vague things about exercises where you use your own body
weight for resistance, etc. Does this work? any website
recommendations? thanks. -op
\_ honestly, I think the smartest thing you can do if you're
really serious is to either hire a decent trainer until you
know your way around the machines, or get a knowledgeable,
experienced friend to help you out. It's WAY too easy to really
injure yourself when you're first starting out. I didn't take
this advice when I was first starting, and can still feel it
on bad days...and I've been lifting for several years now. -mice
\_ girls. I just want to train for girls.
\_ abs. it's all about abs.
\_ alright, so what to do for abs?
\_ one trainer I had before once told me, everyone has
decent abs, it's just getting rid of the fat hiding it.
\_ Vaguely true. Get your bodyfat content down and
you'll see good results more quickly. At the same
time, do more toning. Find a good pilates class.
\_ There's girls you fuck and there's girls you take home to mom.
The girls you take home to mom don't care what your abs look
like. The girls you fuck are easier to nail when drunk and
if you find them at parties, they're pre-drunk so you don't
even have to buy them a drink. A few bucks for a cover charge
and you'll get all the pussy you need without spending a lot
of time, energy and maybe money on altering yourself. Not to
be insulting but I'm guessing you're first or second year?
Ever notice how plenty of ugly skinny greasy smelly guys on
campus are getting laid? They're not going to the gym, son.
\_ You have a childish concept of women. When you realize
that these are not disjoint sets, you will be closer to
being a man. --aaron
\_ ...I weep for the future of this country.
\_ Yeah, it'd be better if having toned abs got you laid.
Makes more sense.
\_ Chicks dig sensitive guys with toned abs.
\_ No. Chicks dig abusive guys with no future.
\_ Work on your abs instead your whining.
\_ ugly, skinny, greasy, smelly? you're saying more guys
in Soda get laid than in Haas?
\_ Depends on which shower you goto at Haas. |
| 2003/4/13 [Health, Computer/SW/Apps] UID:28102 Activity:nil |
4/11 http://www.brandonvedas.com \_ And we should care about him because...? \_ Apparently some IRC chatters, taking a break from their busy masturbation schedule, watched this guy die from a drug overdose on his webcam. |
| 2003/4/4 [Health] UID:27992 Activity:nil |
4/4 Medical Correspondent performs brain surgery
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,929547,00.html |
| 2003/3/24 [Health] UID:27823 Activity:nil |
3/25 All of your rights were not earned by weekend protestors, news
journalists or hollywood actors. They were earned with blood and are
protected with blood. Regardless of your position, think about someone
beside yourself. Why don't we see the same size protests in support
on Veterans Day?
OUR TROOPS MORALE
link:www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/iraq/5445066.htm |
| 2003/3/19-20 [Health] UID:27748 Activity:high |
3/19 I have to choose a health plan soon, and I have many choices:
PPO - Blue Shield
Point of Service - Aetna
HMO - Health Net, Kaiser, Pacificare
And then there's something called a Consumer-Driven Medical plan,
which gives me $1000 every year (w/ rollover) to spend more or less
as I see fit. After I use that, there's an $800 deductible and I get
regular PPO coverage. PPO is ~ $180/yr more expensive than the rest.
Any horror stories / good experiences to share? This is LA area, and
I'm young and have no dependents.
Thanks.
\- just a kaiser data point: i have no qualms about dealing with
kaiser in santa clara. however oakland kaiser seems to have a
high lamer factor ... bottom of the class types possibly, poor
english speakers etc. so you might check what kind of rep your
local kaiser has.
\_ Take the grand, find a crooked doctor that will give you the
cash...
\_ I chose Kaiser and here's what I think:
Pros: You get everything done in the same build.
You can walk in without making an appt with your doctor. (In
this case you may get an appt in a few hours or less for a
different doctor or nurse practitioner.)
Cons: It's both the medical provide and the insurance company. So
Cons: It's both the medical provider and the insurance company. So
it's very possible that they give you less treatment than you
deserve in order to save money.
To me, the convenience is more important.
\_ I had Blue Shield PPO, and it worked fine for me. Point of
clarification: Do you need PPO? Blue Shield HMO has worked
well for me since I switched (two years ago).
\_ I'm a little wary of HMOs personally; I'd at least like to
have the option of switching my primary care physician as
I see fit (so a POS plan would do). All of the non-HMO
plans are administered by my company so I have an
additional level of appeal if needed. My primary concern
is the Con listed above; it seems like a conflict of
interest. Then again, I also refuse to open any sort of
cash account with my credit card company because I don't
want them debiting that account to pay my bills "for me".
\_ My opinion: take the PPO if you can afford it. Take the POS next.
If you're on HMO and God-forbid *something bad happens* to you then
you're fucked. Try to make an appointment with a non-HMO doctor
as an HMO patient and you'll find they're all busy or not taking new
patients, etc. I currently have POS but would've gone PPO if the
option was available. HMO is only for poor people or those who
think they won't get sick or those with such huge medical
expenses they'd use up all their PPO benefits too fast.
\_ I respectfully disagree: If you have the right PCP, an HMO
is more than sufficient. Bear in mind, with Blue Shield HMO,
you can change your PCP at will; this is a very nice feature.
\_ If you can find a doc still accepting new patients!
PPO is good if you have an unusual condition and a specialist
who is not normally covered by your HMO network; remember,
though, you're going to pay for the privilege. I have a heart
condition, but I also have a really good PCP and a Cardiologist
in the same network, so HMO works like a charm for me.
\_ I agree. I run an outpatient surgery center -- and have had
firsthand experience with health insurances as a provider (as
well as a member). Not all PPOs are better than POS, but
Blue Shield is generally a very good PPO, which pays providers
fairly well (and motivates doctors, because they do work for
money). POS not too great -- although it is loads better than
HMO. HMO contracted doctors have to meet a quota of patients
and get paid very little per case, which affects their quality
of care. Kaiser is the worst, although there are exceptions
here and there. Kaiser has the conflict of interest of being
a medical group, a hospital, and an insurance company rolled
in one. I know doctors who have worked at kaiser who cannot
order tests they feel necessary because kaiser tries to keep
costs down, as an insurance company. In general,
PPO >> POS >>> HMO >>>>>> Kaiser --chris |
| 2003/3/17-18 [Health] UID:27724 Activity:very high |
3/17 Anybody ever applied for a government security clearance? Is it ok to
admit to experimenting with Berkeley's favorite mellow pasttime?
\_ I think it's fine to admit to experimenting with math. in fact
for an NSA job, it will probably help.
\_ I have a security clearance, but I really haven't ever used any
illegal substances. I tend to think that any lawbreaking could
lead to you not getting a clearance though.
\_ or in dubya's case, it could lead to the White House
\_ Which level? I knew a guy who filled out two pages of incidents
over the last seven years and still got in. Of course that was
pre-HerrHomeland...
\_ secret.
\_ Admit it. They're going to do interviews. If it's social and
not an addiction, you might be okay. For the FBI, SS, some
military, and NSA, you're probably gonna get rejected.
\_ Both FBI and SS have strict policies about using -- it's
not an immediate disqualification unless you are a
habitual user or have used within the last year (or
three). Of course, cocaine, heroin, etc are substances
that will guarantee you an immediate disqualification.
\_ OK to admit having done it. Not ok to do it once you are
applying for, or already have the clearance.
\_ Yes. I'm told that I can be randomly drug-tested. I have
no fear of this, though.
\_ They're more interested in a clean drug test than your
your way-back past. Remember that the drug tests can
reach back a year or so, though.
\_ Why would you admit it if there's no evidence you'd done it?
\_ Because in most cases, as long as you've demonstrated you've
stopped, the government can be okay with it. If you've lied and
they find out, it's a federal offense and they will get blood
from a stone.
\_ My $0.02 is that you should tell the truth. They can't really
fault you for youthful indiscretions (hey, Clinton inhaled), and
you will score more points for being truthful. One's past has a
way of catching up to you. Of course, this is all in your past,
right? ;-)
\_ Well, yes, but not the distant past (2002) -- op
\_ MJ flushes out in 30 days. If it's a piss test you're okay.
Part of what they are looking for is addicts. If it's a hair
or fat test, that's gonna show. Figure for classified and
below you're gonna be okay (no interviews). Secret and higher
means you're risking it. YMMV.
\_ The FBI and CIA claim they can detect use from up to
a year. Get detox tea from a health store, and that
should help.
\_ lol hahahahhahah
\_ For a piss test, yes, but they can take hair samples
for > 30 days.
\_ Yeah, I should have noted that was piss test only.
\_ The fact you went to Berkeley already makes you suspicious.
Damn commie.
\_ Apparently that's nonsense, though I'd have thought you were
right. My clearance went through in 4 months, absolutely
record time. I'm pretty much a straight arrow though.
\- a distant associate of mine was interviewing for MI5 and
the basically said 1. we know about the cocaine 2. if you are
homosexual that is ok too, but we want you to tell us. i have
been listed as a reference by people looking for security
clearances and the sense i got was their concern was about
people with drug problems, not past social users ... same
applies for alcohol. --psb
\_ MI5 isn't the US who are VERY touchy on homosexuality and
even casual drug use for internal and external security forces.
\- well part of the point was it's just kind of funny when
they say all of a sudden "we know about the cocaine".
i think the concern is also in part are you in the closet
and subject to blackmail. --psb
\_ The British understand that, but the US gets very
puritan at times. Then they go with the winner of the
"Que es mas macho" competition.
\_ "Cual es"?
\_ "Siempre tu mama, por supuesto"
\_ yo quiero chingar tu culo, pendejo. Y tu
mama tambien.
\_ "¿Con los huevos minusculos?" |
| 2003/1/21 [Health] UID:27172 Activity:high |
1/21 Anybody in favor of doctors providing written disclosures of their
financial dealings with drug companies? If a doctor is peddling
a particular drug to patients, he has to tell them that he owns
stock in the company, for example. Or if the drug maker paid for
him and his family's cruise "seminar" on a particular disease.
\_ Yes, absolutely. I don't see how patients wouldn't want to
know that information.
\_ and here lies the problem. 99% of the people won't ask their
doctor for such info. Chances are you don't even know if
your doctor graduated last of his class. And AMA is against
all such disclosures. We need a federal or state law.
\_ Just let the free market handle the problem. Bad doctors
will kill all their patients, then they will have to switch
careers. Why do you want to get the government involved?
\_ Well played.
\_ Not really. The fact is that no matter how much info
is available most people won't ask for it, wouldn't
know how to judge it, have no baseline for it, and
are lucky to find a doctor still taking new patients in
the first place. Go ahead, make a new law. New laws
about disclosing this stuff won't help anyone except
the lawyers and politicians and make some new paper
pushers a job.
\_ Especially the ambulance-chasing laywers.
\_ How about the insurance-money chasing doctors?
Let real ok? doctors are in business for the money.
The AMA has brainwashed you into thinking that MDs
are altruistic angels from God. They're not.
Doctors don't like HMOs because they get paid LESS
Than PPOs. The more tests they run and the more
drugs they prescribe, the more money they make.
\_ How do you tell the difference between accepting a "cruise" vs.
getting free samples of OTC medicine? |
| 2003/1/16 [Health] UID:27112 Activity:low |
1/15 Anyone catch the John Cusack interview on the Daily Show a couple of
weeks back or so? Is he a racist? He used the phrase "homeboy hug"
which is fine by itself. But he also saying how he's friends with
someone on "Scrubs" ... "There's two guys on that show, not the young
innocent one, but the older one." He was referring to the older white
doctor (actor name is something McGinley) rather than the young white
doctor. He make it sound like it's totally inconceivable that he'd be
friends with the young black doctor. Anyone else catch all this or
am I on crack?
\_ You're on crack. You've been in Berkeley too long. Get some air.
\_ I've never watched Scrubs, but that was definitely a painful
interview. I couldn't tell if they were actually friends and
just pretending or if Cusack was about to just get up and walk
out.
\_ wehl, slap mah fro'! |
| 2002/12/5 [Recreation/Dating, Health] UID:26709 Activity:very high |
12/4 My cheatin' heart:
http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/wwn/20021129/103858200006.html
\_ "Any time you are out of your own area code, it doesn't count as
cheating". That's very easy for those who live in SF.
\_ For every article, a rebuttal:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2540089.stm
\_ And this, my friend, is the difference between the Italians
and the English.
\_ Don't forget that most of the people keeling over from heart
attacks while playing hide the salami are probably old farts,
who're more likely to be banging their secretary than their
wife. Statistics... -John
\_ keep in mind it's from the Weekly World News.
\_ I don't need this. I learned everything I need to know about sex
and relationships from Cosmo. -John
\_ I learned it from you, dad. I learned it by watching YOU! |
| 2002/11/28-30 [Health, Recreation/Media] UID:26659 Activity:nil |
11/27 My new favorite movie: Bordello of Blood. I can't do it justice with
a mere motd post.
\_ yeah, thanks for reminding me, i should watch that again. that
was a good one. --aaron |
| 2002/11/22 [Health] UID:26586 Activity:nil |
11/21 http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_566545.html Man farts in OR, sets his balls on fire. \_ Is that an urban legend? |
| 2002/11/5 [Health] UID:26416 Activity:nil |
11/04 Dr. Smith dead, oh the pain, the pain:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/04/harris.obit.ap/index.html
[substituted better url] |
| 2002/10/31-11/1 [Health] UID:26372 Activity:kinda low |
10/31 how did people treat yeast infections before modern medicine?
\_ DOOSH!
\_ Insert fruits, ferment, get drunk.
\_ Inserting garlic. No, really.
google/i feel lucky: yeast infection "insert garlic" |
| 2002/10/26 [Health] UID:26328 Activity:moderate |
10/25 Is the economy really that bad? Young people want to know.
Not really. The run from 93-2000 was the greatest economic
expansion ever. Anyone who got used to that is way off of
the historical norms. Right now is slightly worse than the
recession of 90-92, but not by much. Expect at least another
6 months of pain in the software market, maybe slightly more
in hardware.
\_ just got a job, cmlee?
\_ huh? who are you? i've turned into a vc now.
\_ With whose money?
\_ yermoms of course
\_ More likely his moms. |
| 2002/8/23 [Health] UID:25663 Activity:nil |
8/23 French Mayor Bans Residents from Dying
http://csua.org/u/1a5 |
| 2002/8/21 [Health] UID:25631 Activity:nil |
8/20 To those who thinks health care workers in general discriminate:
"Racial Difference in Blood Vessels Detected"
link:csua.org/u/18e |
| 2002/7/11-12 [Health, Health/Skin] UID:25336 Activity:very high |
7/11 I've varied my workout and I seem to be getting some results now.
I've noticed that my muscles are getting bigger. However, my total
weight remains the same. Anybody had that happen? Muscle weighs
more than fat, I could be losing fat but I doubt that's happening.
what else could account for the fact that I'm getting stronger and
bulkier while total body weight remains the same? Thanks.
\_ It's not unusual for people to gain muscle and yet *lose*
weight. Why do you doubt you are losing fat? --dim
\_ because I'm already at 8% body fat. This is measured using
one of those body fat machine. I'm as lean as I can be. :)
\_ Those body fat machines overestimate if you are relatively
skinny. Calipers plus coach are better.
\_ well ok. I just thought there was a generic explanation
for something like this. As long as I'm getting stronger
and bulkier I have no complains.
\_ you don't want to go much below 8% body fat for males.
Not healthy.
\_ is there a scientific basis for this? I'm vegetarian.
Since I stopped eating meat my workout has gotten a lot
more effective. I don't have to waste energy sweating
off the fat and cholesterol.
\_ body fat refers to fat in your body not in food.
\_ well, for one thing, your brain and nerves are
sheathed in fat, and your brain is mostly fat.
For more info, do yer own googling. But come on
it's common sense. Extremes in any direction
are generally bad.
\_ Here is a URL which describes < 8% body fat
as being unhealthy.
http://www.shapeup.org/dated/082800.htm
\_ I have a friend with 7% body fat and his doctor
told him it is too low and bad for his skin.
\_ Did you weight yourself one time before you go to bathroom but
another time after?
\_ this is *much* easier than installing a scale in your shitter
if you want to know how heavy your turds are.
\_ When you take steroids, you gain weight in the muscles, but lose
weight when your sexual organs shrink. When you become a meathead
your muscles also take up more blood flow, decreasing the blood
your brains gets. Your brain grows smaller, hence weight
(and intelligence) loss. |
| 2002/7/9-10 [Health, Health/Disease/General] UID:25317 Activity:kinda low |
7/9 I need to get medical insurance, but I don't know anything about it.
What do y'all recommend? Kaiser? What should I look for? Thanks.
\_ most people hate kaiser enough that this sounds like bait, but
i'll bite anyway. i've used kaiser, blue cross hmo, and blue
cross ppo. i like kaiser because there's no guesswork on what
i'm going to get charged when i walk in the door and
appointments tend to be on time. i'm relatively healthy and
i've learned how to use the system. conversely, a friend of
mine had ovarian cancer and was repeatedly misdiagnosed by
her Kaiser doctor and had to get it all taken care of at
Stanford. --sony
\_ kaiser's fine if you dont get sick, or really sick. Don't
expect them to try to hard if you're dying.
-- someone who's had 2 relatives die under kaiser care.
\_ Kaiser, like all HMOs, listens to the squeaky wheel. You can
get along okay if you keep complaining or ask for a second
opinion. People get misdiagnosed all the time, everywhere.
\_ http://www.ehealthinsurance.com is where i went. rates were pretty
cheap. -uctt
\_ Any PPO >> Any POS >> Any HMO (non-Kaiser) >> Kaiser. Don't go
cheap on your health. If you knew in advance when you were going
to get sick, you wouldn't need insurance, would you? |
| 2002/7/1-2 [Health] UID:25253 Activity:nil |
7/1 A must read for all you health and environmental conscious people:
http://www.foodrevolution.org This is a follow on to "Diet for
a new america" by John Robbins. |
| 2002/6/19-20 [Health] UID:25149 Activity:very high |
6/19 Can someone recommend an effective, painless pubic hair removal
technique? I tried tweezing it recently but this almost always results
in an infection. Thanks.
\_ squssors! see the bottom of the page. we use them in my lab
to cut .5 mil wires, which are much finer than a human hair.
http://www.thesilverneedle.com/scissors.html
Unless they launch themselves a half-inch out of your nose I bet
no one notices. Unless you've got a nose-hair inspector to deal
with?
...and they're only 12 bucks.
\_ .5 mil? As in 0.5 mm? That's orders of magnitude thicker than
the average human hair.
\_ 1 mil means one thousanth of an inch, which is about
25 microns. a human hair is about 70-100 microns, or
3-4 mils in diameter(a micron is 10^-6 m).
\_ Who the hell uses this unit and, more importantly, WHY?
\_ It's very common in circuit board manufacturing, for
instance. Why ask why? --dim
\_ what about one of those spinning blade "shavers", made by
Braun or companies like that.
\_ yes, what about them? Do they work well?
\_ Why bother? Who could possibly be interested in your nose hairs?
Unless they launch themselves a half-inch out of your nose
and wave madly at passers-by, I'd bet that no one notices. Unless
you've got a nose-hair inspector to deal with?
\_ Because he doesn't want to look like an ugly unkempt sloppy nerd?
\_ I bet your wife has visible nose-hairs
\_ Um... scissors?
\_ Scissors works well for me. As for why bother, when my nose hair
is too long it makes the inside of my nose itchy.
\_ Fire. Light those suckers up! Works for me!
\_ Just don't inhale at the same time. Very bad.
\_ I just grab 'em and yank 'em out. Not really painless, though.
\_ Whatever the solution, it don't cure ugly
\_ It's not a cure, but it does temporarily fix one of the symptoms.
\_ Nads! |
| 2002/6/19 [Health, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25144 Activity:kinda low |
6/18 I think all you trolls and flamers should read this and take
it to heart:
http://www.firelily.com/support/depression/trolls.html
\_ Not that valid points are not potentially being made, but it's
difficult to seriously listen to someone who uses contrived
pronouns like 'hir.'
\_ Silly. It isn't about self-hate. How stupid. 'Hir' trolls are
much different than motd trolls. Here you're a troll for having a
non-leftist political philosophy or not agreeing at all times with
the RIDE BIKE USE LINUX crowd. |
| 2002/6/6-7 [Health, Recreation/Food] UID:25015 Activity:high |
6/6 On NPR the other day I heard a doctor say that there are 12 fruits
and vegetables that you should only buy organic because of the
high levels of pesticides in the nonorganic varieties. He listed
strawberries as the fruit that you should definitely only eat organic.
Anyone know what the other ones might be?
\_ Do you remember exactly when? You can use their web site to
find the show and transcript, most likely...
\_ http://www.ewg.org/pub/home/reports/Shoppers/shop_short.html
\_ Thanks. This is what I was looking for. -op
\_ NPR? Dude just wash your produce before eating.
\_ It's not just about what you're eating. Environmental
responsibility is a big portion of the decision to eat
organic.
\_ Speaking of organic food, where are some good places in the
south bay to buy organic food?
\_ buahahahaha... but seriously. there's a place down by santa
clara university |
| 2002/5/20-21 [Health] UID:24890 Activity:moderate |
5/20 Is there a rule of thumb regarding exercise and gaining muscle?
Like if you work out with free weights for X hours a day for Y
weeks you'll gain Z pounds of muscle. Assuming correct diet and
such. I've been working out and I've gained ten pounds of muscle
on my upper body but I need to gain another 10 pounds. That's my
goal but it doesn't seem to be happening. I'm still doing the
same exercises but I don't seem to see any results now. Thanks.
\_ the only rule of thumb (that I've heard) as far as weight
gain and exercise go is that to gain 1 extra pound you
need to eat an extra 100 calories a day for a week. it's
difficult to include the details of a weight lifting workout
since there are lots of variations in workouts (muscle
massbuilding vs endurance vs definition, for example).
\_ what do you usually eat to add 100 calories?
\_ Rotate your exercises. Your body grows efficient to the same
routine. Mix it up. For example, I do the same shoulder exercises
for 3-4 weeks, then I do something different for the next 4.
\_ This happens to a lot of people. Sometimes you can get
through it by changing the pace of your workouts, sometimes not.
Make sure you are not over training (working the same muscle
group more than 4 times a week). This is the major cause
of plateauing.
\_ I don't see how I can change the exercises. I'm trying to
build up my upper body. So I do pushups and curls, etc. What
exercise can I change that'll still build up my upper body?
\_ not change the exercises, but just change either the
order in which you perform them, the numbers that you
how many days a week you do them, etc.
\_ May I suggest doing your upper-body workout in the following
order: a) dumbbells, b) barbells, c) cable and d) machines.
The dumbbells would fatigue your muscles but since you work
your way down from hardest to easiest, your muscles develop
evenly. Also, do try to rotate your exercise every 6 weeks
or so, increase your weights when it's becoming too easy
for you to lift and S.L.O.W. your repetition. (faster rep
is to tone, slower rep is to build) Hope this helps!
\_ aah I see. I'm going to try that. Thanks a lot man!
\_ Most magazines tell you that you will put on 10-20 lbs
of muscle the first year of working out, and 6 at
most each year after that. Just keep increasing the
weight and eating a ton of protein. So the answer to
your question is, you get .5 lbs of muscle a month
assuming you work out 3-4 times a week. -ax |
| 2002/4/23 [Health] UID:24555 Activity:nil |
4/23 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020422/168/1fjje.html \_ That's un-fuckin' believable. Does the trophy REALLY look like that or did somebody doctor it? \_ a different angle: http://sports.yahoo.com/pga/gallery/20020421/1019437234lpga_longs_drugs_rcp108.html |
| 2002/2/15 [Health] UID:23881 Activity:nil |
2/15 Why do some atheletes have surgery on worn out body parts (I forgot
the names of those surgery)? Wouldn't their body naturally repair
and heal automatically? |
| 2002/2/6-7 [Health] UID:23801 Activity:very high |
2/6 Has anyone used Ritalin? I am having trouble concentrating and my
school work is suffering. I'd like to try SOMETHING... like Ritalin,
hormone therapy, hypnosis... ANYTHING.
\_ Inquire with davebrok@csua.
\_ dexadrine worked wonders. Too bad they only give it to people
\_ Try meditation. Start slowly, just concentrate on your breath
with ADD. Ask for it from your local fix.
\_ Don't take boring classes. Learn some self-discipline.
It's cheaper than prescription drugs. -jeffwong
\_ Try masturbation. Start slowly, just concentrate on your breasts
for 10 mins every morning and every evening. Try not to think
about anything else during that time (it will be hard at first).
As you get used to it, increase by 5 mins every two weeks or
so, until you get upto about 30 mins or so. This will work
wonders for you.
\_ And try some exercise. What is distracting your concentration?
Maybe address that first and then your mind will be free to
concentrate. If it's issues, then take care of them. If it's
a medical problem, contact a doctor before the motd.
\_ i know people who've used ritalin. they report that it is in fact
really good for helping you concentrate and be extraordinarily
productive, but if you have a tendency toward addiction, be wary.
\_ And then you get productive and happier and attract more
of the opposite sex and then you spend all your time partying
with them and distracted and it gets hard to concentrate again.
\_ No problem. Just take more ritalin!
\_ You probably just hate schoolwork. Do you find it hard to
concentrate on things that you like to do?
\_ Actually, yes, I do. Thoughts? - not original poster who has
the same problem both in classes and with things he enjoys
doing.
\_ Trouble concentrating when masturbating. Therefore cannot cum. |
| 2002/1/18-19 [Health] UID:23590 Activity:nil |
1/17 I'd like to have some script that just goes to http://www.cnn.com and yanks off the main headline (usually no more than 5 words or so). Is this doable? Thanks. \_ yes. \_ Here's a lame hack. May easily break at any time: lynx -source http://www.cnn.com | perl -ne \ 'm%cnnMainT1Headline"><a.*?>(.*)</a>% && print("$1\n") && exit;' -alexf \_ [new code re-posted after motd rollback] \_ curl -s http://www.cnn.com/|perl -lne \ 'print $1 if m,cnnMainT1Headline"><a[^>]+>([^<]+)<,' 10 chars shorter --dbushong |
| 2002/1/11 [Health] UID:23530 Activity:moderate |
1/10 I am slowly converting to Dvorak keyboard. My finger/wrist pain
have gone away, but it might be because I'm typing 15 WPM instead of
my usual 75 WPM. What do you have to say about that nweaver?
\_ It took me 2-3 days to get from 0-40WPM on dvorak. I'm about 80WPM
normal. I stopped using dvorak.
\_ what? u used dvorak then stopped? what's ur point?
\_ you read the rules?!? You must follow the rules!
\_ This sounds awefully similar to "You want the truth!? You
can't handle the truth." Syllable to syllable. :-) -- yuen
\_ Patience, grasshopper. Soon, the quick brown fox shall jump
over the lazy dog at 80 wpm. |
| 2001/12/10-11 [Health, Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:23203 Activity:kinda low |
12/9 There's a malt drink in Germany called "Karamalz" or something like
that. It's not alcoholic and I heard it's very healthy. Well
healthier than drinking coke/pepsi at least. Anybody know the
exact name? I'm trying to see if I can get it here in the states.
\_ Kaiserdom Club-Malz? http://www.germandeli.com/4004591065048.html
\_ Is that the fermented horse's pubic hairs I've been hearing about? |
| 2001/11/2 [Science/GlobalWarming, Health, Health/Skin] UID:22909 Activity:nil |
11/1 Dude isn't there a strong resemblence between Mohamed Atta and Tawei?
\_ both seem to have disappeared from the face of the earth.
\_ % last -1 tawei
tawei ttyBO http://ixix.com Thu Nov 1 13:58 - 15:35 (01:36)
% last -1 atta
wtmp begins Sat Oct 27 15:04:06 PDT 2001 |
| 2001/10/11 [Health, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:22694 Activity:nil |
10/11 "Diary of a smallpox attack"
http://www.msnbc.com/news/242194.asp?0cb=-11330726
Sounds very realistic to me.
\_ It'd be pretty stupid for a terrorist to use smallpox on the
USA. Of all countries, the USA probably has the best chance
of keeping the infection rate low and fatailities low through
supportive care and general good nutrition/health of the
population. Poor countries with malnourished populations
will suffer far more. Countries like Afghanistan.
Anthrax is another matter. It is not contageous, so anthrax
in the US is unlikely to backfire at Afghanistan, except in
the form of US military reprisals. |
| 2001/10/7 [Health] UID:22659 Activity:very high |
10/5 sunday, bloody sunday.
\_ as long as it's Taliban blood I don't care.
\_ I think the goal is less bloodshed. Why weren't those
humanitarian drops made before the bombings?
\_ the US hopes to provoke a popular revolt against the taliban.
the humanitarian aid serves as propaganda, to create smpathy
towards us. it's politically motivated. -ali
\_ as long as it's taliban blood i don't really care |
| 2001/10/5 [Health] UID:22638 Activity:very high |
10/5 is today, "Show of your D-cup tits day?" jeebus!
\_ http://www.goobita.com
\_ What about her?
\_ i'm talking about outside. go look outside during your lunch
break
I recently received an e-mail from a young lady with a dilemma. She has recently\
grown to accept and welcome her 34G breasts, but she finds them a huge encumbra\
nce as she enjoys a very active lifestyle, participating in volleyball, Ultimate\
Frisbee and hockey as well as running regularly. She wrote to me to ask if anyo\
ne had had similar experiences and could offer advice or counsel in the matter:
"Has anyone at the chronicles dealt with this, or even had the surgery? The doct\
or said he would only go down to a D, but still I am concerned about how a reduc\
tion will screw with my self-image. It is only in the last two years that I have\
started to feel comfortable with my body, is now the time to go mess with that?\
If anyone could give me their thoughts I would really appreciate it."
\_ if you are seriously trying to tell the world that there are
nice tits to look at outside your office, you are an idiot.
motd posters are in all corners of the country.
\_ http://www.dcup.com |
| 2001/10/4-5 [Health] UID:22631 Activity:insanely high |
10/04 Can anybody recommend a good doctor in the Mountain View/Sunnyvale/
Palo Alto area? I'm just looking for a good general doctor for a
yearly checkup.
\_ Dr. Bonzai. At the Bonzai Institute.
\_ That's Banzai, buckaroo.
\_ Dr. Seuss
\_ Dr. Pepper
\_ Dr. Jack Kevorkian, oh wait, that's in Michigan..
\_ Dr. Death.
\_ Dr. Smith (one of them must be alright)
\_ Dr. Nick
\_ Hi everybody!
\_Hi Dr. Nick!
\_ Dr. Hibert
\_ Dr. Jones
\_ I see the Spin Doctors
\_ Dr. Ruth
\_ Dr. Kildare
\_ Dr. Zhivago
\_ Dr. McCoy
\_ If you are willing to make the drive to SoCal, Dr. Dre.
\_ Dr. Fred Mbogo
\_ Dr. Strangelove and Dr. Who
\_ Boy, I sure could use 100 tacos right about now.
\_ Dr. Dolittle
\_ Dr. Alban
\_ Can someone append what these doctors are known for?
\_ Dr. Laura
\_ Dr. Spock
\_ Dr. Timothy Leary
\_ Dr. Demento (you all know him, right?)
\_ How many sodans do you know?
\_ Dr. Koop, but he might have went out of business
\_ Norton Disk Doctor
\_ Dr. Watson (elementary, my dear)
\_ Dr. No
\_ just run fsck
\_ Dr. Joycelyn 'masturbation' Elders
\_ Dr. Herman, paging Dr. Herman
\_ Dr. Drew
\_ Dr. Scholl's
\_ Dr. Zaius (help me!)
\_ Dr. Zoidberg
\_ Dr. Indiana Jones
\_ Dr. Dr. |
| 2001/9/7 [Health] UID:22346 Activity:high |
9/7 How many of you are married and still use the condom because your
wife refuses to take the pill? Poll:
Married + condom:
Married + pill: ..
Married+pill+condom:
Married - sex:
Married + vasectomized:
If you're not married, don't answer.
\_ Some people are allergic to the pill. |
| 2001/8/25-26 [Health] UID:22260 Activity:high |
8/24 "If I should fall from grace with God where no doctor can relieve me
If I'm buried 'neath the sod so the angels can't receive me
Let me go, boys, Let me go boys
Let me go down in the mud when the rivers all run dry."
\_ Bury me at sea where no murdered ghost can haunt me.
If I rock upon the waves then no corpse can lie upon me
\_ This land was always ours -- 'twas the proud land of our fathers'
It belongs to us and them and not to any of the others...
...but more importantly:
A curse upon you Oliver Cromwell,
You who raped our Motherland.
I hope you're rottin' down in hell
For the horrors you did send
To our misfortunate forefathers
Whom you robbed of their birthright...
"To hell or Connaught"
May you burn in hell tonight!
Shane or no, that's how it's done.
\_ Roses are red, violets are blue, tongue-fuck my shithole, bitch.
\_ One for me, and one for my homeys.
\_ Get off my dick.
\_ now get back on. now get off it... |
| 2001/8/16-17 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Japan, Health] UID:22138 Activity:low |
8/16 Anyone knows what the Japanese or English title of the Japanese TV
cartoon series ~20 years ago whose Cantonese title is "Doctor IQ"?
Thx.
\_ Dr. Slump (Arale-chan)
\_ Speaking of Asian cartoons, when I was in China I picked up
some VCD's of a chinese cartoon featuring policeman cats. I don't
speak chinese and there are no subtitles but they are hilarious
to watch simply because they are so surreal and so violent.
Anyone know what the name of this cartoon is? |
| 2001/6/21-22 [Health, Health/Men] UID:21586 Activity:high |
6/20 Let's say I workout every other day and I've gotten 1.2X more buff
than before. How long would it take for me to atrophy back to 1.0X
if I don't work out afterwards?
\_ I remember my trainer mentioning that one loses 10% of muscle
mass per week without exercise. -chris
\_ wow it's amazing i can walk at all!
\_ true only if you are using steroids
\_ All I hear are the squeaky voices of girly men.
\_ I heard it was 10% per YEAR if you're 25 or older.
\_ So if I work out for a year, it'll take me 10 years to
atrophy back to where I started? This is just wrong.
\_ The most reasonable answer I've heard in that case is that
it takes the same amount of time to lose muscle as to add it. -ax
\_ so how long did it take you to buff up? You look sexy on
your web site. -ax #1 fan
\_ I think it depends. If you are completely sedentary and you
don't eat much it comes off pretty fast. If you eat enough and
keep at least a little active it takes much longer. Also, even
really short workouts (say 10-15 minutes a few times a week) are
enough to drastically slow down or stop the loss. |
| 2001/5/10-11 [Health] UID:21232 Activity:moderate |
5/10 Watching TV one'd think that Americans are in a lot of pain because of
all the pain killer commercials. Tylenol, Advil, etc. Just how
often do Americans get headaches? I for one can't even remember the
last time that I had a headache.
a couple times a day:
a couple times a week:
a couple times a month:
once a month: <none, there are no females who read the motd>
Only when I'm sick: .
I can't really tell cuz yermom is sitting on my face: .
have headache but don't take pain killers: . |
| 2001/5/8-9 [Health] UID:21212 Activity:nil |
5/8 Dear Doctor Science,
I am an especially unattractive person, and all my life I've had to
deal with people who hate me just because they don't like the way I
look. How can I free myself from the hatred I feel for these people?
-- Ray Mullen from Swisher, IA
Unfortunately, there's little you can do to let go of such a justified
resentment. Electroshock may help you to forget, and thus forgive, but
it may also have unintended side effects, like death. Have you thought
of starting an ugly persons support group? It might give you a sense of
community you've been missing all your life, though I imagine the
meetings would be pretty hard to stomach.
\_ Who's Ray Mullen?
\_ Apply to EECS at Cal, you will among others of your type. |
| 2001/5/7 [Health] UID:21188 Activity:high |
5/7 Anyone ever get ill from eating out a girl?
\_ In theory, you or she could get AIDS...
\_ And herpes and a long list of other things. Yes, many have. Go
see a doctor.
\_ And herpes and a long list of other things. Yes, many have.
Go see a doctor.
\_ Yes, the bill came to be $46.17 and I almost had a
heart attack.
\_ That's it? You're pretty cheap.
\_ No I'm frugal.
\_ Tell her that. "Honey, I know this is our first date and
we're only going to Burger King, but I'm frugal and you're
just going to have to accept that." "Ok, Jack, that's ok.
I can find someone who isn't so cheap and will spend more
on a date than I spent on my makeup." |
| 2001/4/27 [Health, Health/Men] UID:21118 Activity:high 76%like:21127 |
4/27 In workouts, why are free weights better than machines even if I'm
using the same weight?
\_ More muscle groups are brought into play controlling the weights,
and you have MUCH more control which muscles get worked. With
machines, since the movement is completely static, you have to get
really creative to hit some of the more obscure muscles. Also,
if you're a muscle-bound moose, you can generally get higher
weights on free weights, whereas most machines run out at around
250-300 pounds. -mice
\_ Because free weights give you the widest range of motion possible;
that you are not limited only by the mechanics of the machines.
Which is why folks using free weights are more prone to injury, if
they're not careful in picking the correct weight. They often
forget to take into account gravity, free weights going anywhere
they please while in your hands, etc. Most novice are encouraged
to start with machines first beore graduating into free weights
starting out light. - jthoms
\_ But don't machines offer more variations in resistsnce?
Resistance from free weights only goes one direction (downward)
and is constant. Resistance from a machine can follow
a curved path like on a chest machine which you bring two handles
from left and right together at the front. And the amount of
resistance can vary according to the shape of the pulley guiding
the wires, e.g. eclipse shape. I'm new to weight training BTW.
resistance can vary along the path according to the shape of the
pulleys guiding the wires, e.g. eclipse shape. I'm new to weight
training BTW.
\_ You're correct that machines offer more var. in resistance.
I personally use both machines and free weights as I am
slowly graduating to free weights myself. What people
mean by free weights are "better" is because not only they
bulk up your muscles, but also they train your muscles to
be more alert and flexible. Free weights are closer to
everyday application than machines. I don't know the exact
scientific expl. but that's the closest I can think of.
Also, what avid gym-freaks usually do is use free weights
to "puff up"/sculpt their muscles with slow repetitions on
one day and use the machines to define/tone their newly
build muscles with fast repetitions. Those men with ripped
muscles can't get what they have by using machines alone.
But if you're just doing weights to tone yourself, machines
should do the trick. Have a great workout. - jthoms
\_ So do you mean machines alone can't bulk up my muscles?
Gee, I think I've wasted all that time I spent on those
machines.
\_ I have seen some very big people who use only machines, so
those men with ripped muscles _can_ get what they have with
just machines. Machines and LOTS of steroids...
That said, a good reason to use free weights is to work
all of the little stabilizer muscles that aren't used as
much with machines. Another is that machines usually
add friction to the exercise, usually making the positive
(contracting) part harder and the negative part easier,
which is the opposite of what you want. There are many
other reasons that you can come up with (free weights
allow you to cheat a little more, for example), but I think
it's mostly a matter of personal preference
\_ I'd go with free weights. I was using this bench press machine
(like a standard bench press machine except with a harness), but
never really gained any strength (ie, never moved up in resistence).
Then I switched to dumbbells. I've increased the weights I can do by
20 pounds (each arm) in just over a month, exceeding what I could
do on the machine.
\_ I agree with the recommendation. I don't think that machines
prevent you from getting stronger, but I think that it's easier
to push yourself with free weights. However, I think that the
comparison above is faulty. There is not a simple linear
relationship between the weight you can use on a machine and
what you can use with free weights. Also, when you switch
exercises (from machine to dumbells) you tend to gain strength
more quickly than normal as your body and mind adjust to the
new exercise. |
| 2001/2/27 [Health] UID:20712 Activity:high |
2/26 I've converted my small network (10 workstations) to NIS+. It's a
pain in the ass to manage. Is solstice any good at managing them?
do I have any other choice? Thanks.
\_ DNS
\_ wtf does DNS have to do with NIS+? Most sites that use NIS+
troll Stop deleting my troll anotations.
\_ Use better annotations: t = troll, w = winston, etc
\_ Use better annotations: h = hamster, w = winston, xxx = rebecca lord
etc
use it mainly for things other than host name db.
\_ LDAP
\_ hessiod
\_ ew.
\_ get a nocmonkey or a labrat
\_ There is no secure alternative to NIS+, save MAYBE hesiod/moira.
Come on, it shouldn't be THAT bad to manage. what's giving you
the headaches?
\_ what about netinfo? |
| 2001/2/8 [Health] UID:20536 Activity:kinda low |
2/7 http://www.brunching.com/features/domifex.html \_ Please post descriptions or you risk someone deleting your URL. \_ hey no fair, I never deleted any URLs. - someone \_ why does people not posting descriptions get your panties in sucha bunch anyway? Get over yourself. \_ I don't care, but apparently others do. This URL was deleted twice and I restored it. That's why I posted the warning. |
| 2001/2/1-2 [Recreation/Media, Health, Transportation/Airplane] UID:20489 Activity:high |
1/31 All stop, Mr. Sulu!
-- The former Capt. Kirk and http://Priceline.com pitchman, who appeared
with Sandra Bullock in "Miss Congeniality," is set to emcee the
Miss USA Pageant on March 2.
\_ You forgot "former TV cop, TJ Hooker" as well. Who could forget
all those car chase scenes where he ended up on the hood of the
bad guy car in episode after episode?
\_ I loved the scene in Charlie's Angels where they showed
"T.J. Hooker The Movie" as the in-flight movie.
\_ ...and "former TV doctor, Trapper John, M.D.". But Captain
Kirk should never really be mistaken for a cop or a doctor
(DAMNIT JIM!) because he only played them on TV, and after all,
he's the pageantry of congeniality... as is clear from such
great episodes as "The Doomsday Orgiastic Nazi Parade", "The
Dribble with Nipples" and "Blue She-malien Bounty"... but you
fuckin losers are far too hoity-toity to acknowledge such
greatness lest you be exposed as the ashamed extra-human-virgins
that you are incapable of even terrestrial attempts in the
form of, say, lizardlove or owlorgy or gynogerbillingus.
- (fucker)
\_ What is gynogerbillingus?
\_ cunnilingus on a gerbil. pretty trivial. fucker u
fail to impress me.
\_ Yeah, I've got say, -(fucker)'s wannabe "rants" are
pretty annoying. But of course, this being the motd,
there's little hope he'll shut up. *sigh* |
| 2001/1/25-26 [Health] UID:20437 Activity:moderate |
1/25 Construction worker accidentally saws off hand, shoot nails into
head to end pain:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/01/25/sawed.off.hand.ap/index.html
\_ His brain must be so small that even one-inch nails can't reach it.
That explains his behavior.
\_ Well, he probably was trying to kill himself, right?
\_ 'Sup, dudes brain must be so's little-ass dat even one-inch nails
kin't reach it. Dat 'esplains his behavio'.
\_ Sheeit, he probably wuz tryin' t'put de smack down on himself,
right?
\_ racist fuckers.
\_ See? I told you all the other day how important it is to
scream "RACISM!" on the motd. I'm not alone on this. |
| 2000/11/7 [Health] UID:19669 Activity:nil |
11/07 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20001107/pl/mdf129115.html Why did they doctor this photo? Ideas? \_ Looks real to me. Staged, yes, doctored, doubtful. |
| 2000/10/26 [Health] UID:19575 Activity:nil |
10/26 Koreans and Japanese have a closer blood relationship than say,
Koreans and Caucasians. What about Indians? Do they have a close
blood relationship with Africans? |
| 2000/7/23 [Health] UID:18761 Activity:nil |
7/21 \_ http://www.dslreports.com |
| 2000/6/29-7/1 [Health, Health/Men] UID:18566 Activity:high 52%like:18569 |
6/29 Why do muscles swell during a workout? I don't understand the benefit
or the method (ie, how do the cells suddenly become hypertonic to the
rest of the body?)
\_ besides "looking good", what are some actual physiological
benefit of working out? Wouldn't aerobic excercise be better than
is the pump. Your muscles get filled with blood." -Arnold
just pumping out?
\_ there is no benefit to being a pumped up monster. however,
being in good cardiovascular condition and being generally
toned and strong is just good health.
\_ Well, what do you mean by "better"? If you're trying to lose
weight, doing both is good, because the more muscle mass you
have, the more calories your body's burning just sitting
around doing nothing. Cardiovascular exercise itself actually
burns more calories while you're doing it, of course.
\_ In some sports such as football and basketball being big
and strong can be a significant advantage. Also, being big
helps prevent injury (assuming you don't lose flexibility).
\_ The blood does go to your muscles, which leaves less in
your veins. Your body compensates by adding water to your
bloodstream, which can cause you to get incredibly thirsty
Finally, if you're scrawny people tend to pick on you, while
if you're buff, everyone acts friendly. Once you finish
high school this isn't as big a deal, though.
\_ Only if you goto a nerdy school like cal surrounded by
nerds. Otherwise at other schools, it's almost the same
(except you dont get physically picked on).
After that, it's almost the opposite. The big hulking
guys cant get a good job, but the scrawy ones with brains
do an IPO and get rich and then everyone acts friendly.
\_ Keep dreaming, wimp.
\_ blood
\_ "The first thing you notice when you begin to work out
is the pump. Your penis get filled with blood." -Arnold
\_ The blood does go to your penis, which leaves less in
your brain. Your body compensates by adding water to your
bloodstream, which can cause you to get incredibly horny
very quickly.
\_ when you work out, you use up oxygen more as respiration process
to produce ATP. Most likely, when the oxygen level of your
blood stream lowers, a negative feedback pathway will
increase the heart beat rate to pump more blood (thus
oxygen) into the circulatory path way. |
| 2000/6/23-24 [Health] UID:18535 Activity:nil |
6/23 http://www.cix.co.uk/~embra/armyths.html on animal rights myths. \_ what brought this up all of a sudden? there's lots of well researched opposing views out there - http://altweb.jhsph.edu http://www.waste.org/~lanshark/av/index.html - your local hippie \_ This is only about vivisection. Animal research covers a hell of a lot more than putting an animal under a knife. The altweb link just provides information about the movement within the scientific community to move away from animal testing. It doesn't contradict the original embra url at all. Was it intended as background information? \_ I think soccer-mom consensus these days is that animals feel pain like people feel pain, so the consensus generally supports eating animals, animal-based medical research, and positive sentiment for vegetarians. |
| 2000/6/19-20 [Health] UID:18496 Activity:very high |
6/19 If our cells can be regenerated in a finite number of times and
working-out is a process if breaking and regenerating cells,
wouldn't work-out speed up the aging process?
\_ Shut up, cmlee.
\_ Yes. People who work out are trading one form of health for
another. Moderation in everything is the way to go.
\_Apoptosis in eukaryotic multicellular organisms is quite
complex. Such
a statement as "working out will speed the aging process" is
essentially nonsensical.
-williamc
complex. Such a statement as "working out will speed the aging
process" is essentially nonsensical. -williamc
\_ regeneration != aging. There is no known direct relation
between cell division and aging.
\_ There is, however an inverse correlation between heart rate and
life span. There is also an inverse relation between calorie
intake and life span. If you sit around and don't eat much you
will live longest. Have fun.
\_ I just read an article casting doubt on the whole fat people don't
live as long as people who don't eat much thing - danh
\_ There is an inverse relationship between average
activity level and resting heart rate. So sitting
around won't do you much good unless it is after a
brisk workout
\_ Miguel Indurain had a resting heart rate of 28.
He'll live to be 200! -tom
\_ Hail Indurain! --dim
\_ And if your heart rate is 0 and you do absolutely nothing,
you'll live forever! |
| 2000/5/15-17 [Health] UID:18265 Activity:very high |
5/16 URL for latest 'extreme sport'. Thought bungee jumping was heart
wrenching? This this:
http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/05/15/timfgneur02004.html
\_ Bungee jumping is hardly as 'extreme sport.' Yawn.
\_ Bad use of the term "heart wrenching" normally used to describe
what girls do to guys when they scew them over.
\_ No. You've just been dumped too many times. The term
predates your dating difficulties and is still in very
common use in the way I used it. Think before posting
your misapplied and narrow personal experiences.
\_ Your rejection of the previous poster's interpretation
is gut wrenching.
\_ Not my fault they can't get a date.
\_ FYI, this is the same (Swiss) outfit that got 19 (20?)
Australian & Misc. tourists whacked about 4 months back
in a huge canyoning accident--they took the group into a really
narrow steep ravine while there was a thunderstorm in the
mountains right above. I think they were still dredging
bodies out of various lakes all over Europe about a month
after. This time, they gave him a (clearly marked) 180 meter
rope for a 100 meter drop. Splat! -John
\_ Yet more proof that the metric system sucks.
\_ It only sucks if you can't multiply by 2.5. -John
\_ i can't . i always multilply by 2.54.
\_ It's Darwin. What kind of idiot bungee jumps in the first
place and then doesn't even do his own double check? Maybe
ask that they check the friggin' cord? He earned his
place in Flatland. |
| 1999/12/18-21 [Health, Health/Men] UID:17069 Activity:high |
12/18 We're in Thailand! We found an internet cafe! We're living in
an alley! No kidding! -raytrace, brain
\_ Jokes, like whores, age quickly.
\_ Yawn.
\_ internet cafes are pretty common in tourist areas. I was in
Koh Samui last year which isn't too highly developed like Phuket.
There were several combo Internet/long distance/laundry/currency
shops. --vchang
\_ Is the movie "Anna and the King" showing there? How much of the
story is real history?
\_ Is the movie "Anna and the King" being shown there? How much of
the story is real history?
\_ the horny king slept with Anna, but because we're in
Hollywood/Broadway, we can only show white men w/Asian chix
\_ Not in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee story"
\_ Really? In one of the Don Wilson's movies, Don, acting
as a Chinese-American doctor, slept with the sister of
\_ Really? In one of Don Wilson's movies, Don, acting as
a Chinese-American doctor, slept with the sister of
his white opponent.
\_ that wouldn't be don "the dragon" wilson would it?
i can't ever stop laughing about this one character
who proposes to stop a gang feud by using "thai-style
boxing", meaning rope wristbands with chunks of glass,
\_ in The Lover a studly asian male plays hide the salami
with a much younger white chic
in a private match.
\_ Yes, it's indeed Don "the Dragon" Wilson as the
doctor. The character you're laughing about is the
doctor's cousin. I don't know the name of the actor
though.
\_ "Racism, blah, anti-asian, blah, anti-whatever, blah,
Political Correctness, blah, thought control, blah, no
free speech for people who don't agree with me, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, noise, stupidity, blah".
\_ in The Lover a studly asian male plays hide the
salami with a much younger white chic
\_ read "14" (12?)
Portrayed by Jane March. sexy. Not her visually,
the whole way they did some scenes.
And dude, learn about 80 columns. I fixed your
problem. Supposedly autobiographical, by
... "Maureen Dumas"? Marguerite Duras?
\_ Can't find "The Lover" in http://www.imdb.com
\_ thats cause its got "Lover" in the title
http://www.eonline.com/Facts/Movies/0,60,28411,00.html
It was a bitch to find. Also,
http://www.jane-march.com
\_ Neither Don Wilson's movie or The Lover are popular
or are of Hollywood/Broadway quality.
\_ "Hollywood quality" is rather oxymoronic. |
| 1999/9/15 [Health] UID:16520 Activity:insanely high |
9.16 Searle's lecture is on what is pain, thursday, 2060 vlsb.
\_ pain is reading the motd seriously.
\_ I suggest watching Harvey's cs61a lectures on the web. If she's
might help her learn to program.
\_ perl is a sucky beginners language, because there are
disgusting
\_ no, pain is taking searle seriously.
\_ Isn't Searle the guy who claims that computers can never
be sentient? I remember a section in Hofstader's book,
_The_Mind's_Eye_, which talked about AI, the Turing Test,
and other such subjects. There was an argument attributed
to Searle (maybe a different guy than the one giving the pain
lecture) in there claiming that since computers only do
"formal symbol manipulation" they can never be intelligent.
I thought this argument was pretty lame. -emin
\_ yes, that's Searle, and yes, it is. -tom
\_ it's a fork bomb
\_ the majority of searle's arguments sound impressive when he
presents them on the bbc but are actually pretty damned lame.
\_ Everything in here is wrong except the bits about
"subjects", "formal", and "taking". |
| 1999/8/28 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Health] UID:16408 Activity:insanely high |
8/28 Now this is true csuaer dedication (worthy of danh's disturbed-mind
award): http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~keithyw/letter.htm
\_ Wow, do a search on Yahoo for her and you come up with keith's
web page as the first link
\_ 5'6" and 150 lbs... quite the chunky chick.
\_ that's not fat. Look at the picture. It's all muscle.
\_ I said chunky. She's chunky. That's not a svelte chick.
C-H-U-N-K-Y C-H-I-C-K
\_ kate moss is unattractive anyway. But the letter he
wrote is kinda funny, kinda sad.. |
| 1999/8/2 [Health] UID:16221 Activity:nil |
8/2 Does anyone here suffer from acid reflux? I read some newsgroup
articles on it, and it seems like that everyone who posts feels
pain in the chest. I only feel a constant tinge of acid at the
back of my throat after dinner, a few times a week. Do I have
acid reflux?
\_ ask a doctor you idiot
\_ you suffer from toxic megacolon
\_ yes, and you need to drink Drano to counteract it... hahaha |
| 1999/7/6 [Health] UID:16084 Activity:kinda low |
7/5 Has anybody tried those protein shakes that GNC sells to build
muscle? Do those drinks really work or are they more of a placebo?
\_ yes
\_ It's up to you to turn that protein into muscle. It may become
fat, too! They work if you do! --dim
\_ Protein is protein. Eat meat everyday and you'll get lots of
protein, too. |
| 1999/6/30-7/1 [Health] UID:16041 Activity:nil |
6/30 Is soda dying?
\_ No, but it's been left out too long and gone flat. |
| 1999/6/12 [Health] UID:15951 Activity:very high |
6/11 RIP DeForest Kelley aka Dr.Leonard Bones McCoy
\_ heard on radio today as well. *sigh* People dying left and right.
-- ilyas
\_ Yeah, how come no media about dying around 1991-1996??
\_ If you had been watching the jnews you would hear it.
nowadays everything tries to compete with the net for info.
I can only remember Lucille ball dying sometime around there
\_ you are an idiot. |
| 1998/11/1-3 [Health, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:14864 Activity:low |
10/31 Headline news: http://www.cnn.com "Hello, UN Weapon Inspectors. We need to hide our weapons of mass distruction again. Please come back later when we are done. Thanks." Happy Pagan Satan Worship! \_ Ignorant tweak. Satan is a Christian concept. Halloween is a Pagan concept. Dumb shit Christians jammed Satan into the historical Pagan concepts. Pagans don't worship Satan. I'd say you should stay off the MOTD if you're going to be such an idiot, but if everyone followed that advice, there'd be nothing but lame job offerings. \_ Case in point: Halloween is not remotely pagan. November 1st is called 'All Saints Day' or 'Hallowed Day' and the eve of the celebration 'Hallowed Eve' which mutated to 'Halloween' A Christian concept through and through, for a change. \_ Yep. 'Pagan' is a lame Christian word which tried to mean 'not Christian' but eventually came to mean, 'a religion which is not one of the big 5', so since Satanism is a Christian sect (admitted a perverse one), a Satanic is not a Pagan. |
| 1998/10/23-25 [Health] UID:14815 Activity:moderate |
10/22 That new Durex condom commercial is hilarious. Oh wait, this is
CSUA. Maybe I should explain what a condom is...
\_ oh, you mean da protection I used when I was doing yer mom
last nite? it even glows!!!
\_ so that's why my mom asked if i had a pair of tweezers.
\_ Oh yeah...I want a condominium.
\_ A modem is an electronic device that ...... |
| 1998/9/11 [Health] UID:14576 Activity:high |
9/11 Who likes short shorts?!
\_ We like short shorts.
\_ In certain cases. I saw bh in short shorts once and have
been scarred for life ever since.
\_ Oh fuck! Sorry, man. My sympathies
\_ I suggest a lawsuit to cover medical expenses and pain
and suffering. |
| 1998/7/22-23 [Health] UID:14373 Activity:nil 80%like:14372 |
7/77 ]<(HA/VG heart sodomy |
| 1998/7/22 [Health] UID:14372 Activity:nil 80%like:14373 |
7/77 h0zer heart sodomy |
| 1998/4/6 [Reference/BayArea, Health, Computer/Theory] UID:13907 Activity:nil |
4/6 Re: PBS starts new series -> Teletubbies
\_http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/04/06/DD91651.DTL |
| 1998/3/31-4/1 [Health] UID:13876 Activity:high |
3/30 How do you get a doctor to prescribe Prozac for you? Thanks.
\_ Just ask him/her. Generally, they'll be a little more agreeable
if you're also seeing a therapist at the time. Just keep in mind
that Paxil / Zoloft / Prozac / whatever are -not- "happy pills" --
"take and your life will be wine and roses forevermore" -- but,
if you know the various issues involved, meds can't hurt, and just
might help.
\_ Why the fuck would you seek medical advice on the MOTD? The
"meds can't hurt" statement could only come out of ignorance
or a desire to do harm. All medications have side effects.
All medications have the potential for an allergic reaction.
Prozac is especially bad because few people ever sucessfully
get off of it. Talk to a psychiatrist. Get some therapy.
There is a difference between getting rid of the symptoms
and getting rid of the problem. -Doogie Howser, MD
\_ The REAL Doogie would never swear like that....
\_ Also be careful. Although selective seratonin uptake inhibitors
do work fairly well for clinical monopolar depression, there
can be some serious side effects, especially in the first
few weeks of treatment. There have been reports of potentially
greater danger of suicides in serious depressed individuals
during the first few weeks of treatment. Also, I believe
that these drugs are counterindicated in cases of bipolar
(manic/depressive) disorder, which can be mistaken in some
cases for unipolar depression if the manic phase is much
less significant than the depressive phase.
\_ Antidepressants are prescribed for bipolar disorder. My
sister was given SSRIs for a diagnosed bipolar disorder.
Whether they were the best choice is another question, but
it's not unheard of.
\_ my aunt died taking prozac. had some reaction to a drug
she took some time before, like stored in her liver or
something. be careful.
\_ Well I don't care, I'm probably better off dead anyway
\_ you probably are. I have a gun I can lend you
\_ Well, she's not depressed anymore. Cured by death she was.
\_ Sheesh. How do you even know you _need_ Prozac? Someone tell you
it was cool? Go to a real doctor and get real help. Don't drown
your misery with drugs.
\_ Blow jobs are always a good method
\_ Excuse me for being ignorant, but why is it called a *blow*job?
\_ a good lay is a much better cure than Prozac anyway.
\_ It's easy to get a doctor to prescribe Prozac for you if he/she
has diagnosed you with depression and feels you need one. If you
haven't already seen a psychiatrist, go see one. If you are
are already seeing one and can't get him/her to prescribe it,
then maybe you don't need it. My opinion is that it's a last
resort coping aid, rather than the first step. --chris
\_ thanks chris... my day is almost over (too tired)
and tomorrow's just another day to deal with
\_ It is one thing to be depressed, it is another thing
to wallow in it. Shut the fuck up or go kill yourself
already. -been there, done that
\_ Picture yourself in a boat on a river, with tangerine trees
and marmalade skies. Somebody calls you, you answer quite
slowly, a girl with kaleidoscope eyes. Cellophane flowers
of yellow and green, towering over your head. Look for the
girl with the sun in her eyes and you're gone.
\_ Yeah, I've always considered halucinogenic psychosis inducing
narcotics like LSD to be a good pick-me-up anti-depressant.
There's also pot, crack, cocaine, and crystal meth easily
available in Berkeley. Shoot yourself first. It's faster.
\_ Hel-lo... that song is not about LSD, read up on your
Beatle lore
\_ HAhahahhaha, the song is *exactly* about LSD. Don't be
stupid. It was written at a time when that was "k00l".
Now that it isn't they have to tell parents (the same
people who were frying in the 60s) of kiddies like you
that it was really all about good clean wholesome
non-druggy fun. Again, don't be stupid. At that time,
"(L)ucy/(S)ky/(D)iamonds" was known and accepted to be
about LSD. If it wasn't why didn't they say so at the
time? Got a nice clean pro-mommy-ex-LSD-hippy URL?
\_ Having a bad day, week, month, life? PROZAC IS THE DRUG FOR YOU!!!
AND IT'S INCREDIBLY EASY TO GET. 9 OUT OF 10 PSYCHOLOGISTS AGREE!
Because only YOU know that the world is just and fair.
Since the human condition should not be an unhappy one:
>>> THE HUMAN CONDITION NEEDS TO BE TREATED WITH DRUGS! <<<
(Just be sure to take some downers whenever you have a good
day, week, month or life - as if THAT'll ever happen... HAH!) |
| 1998/3/8 [Health] UID:13772 Activity:nil |
3/7 FREE futon (double) with three piece frame. (you know, the kind
that could theoretically be folded into a couch-like object, but
no one ever does, because it's a pain, and it's still on the floor
anyway, so why bother.) old, slightly grungy, could use a cover.
i'll put it out on the street for random ppl to pick up if no one
here wants it. mail me if you're interested. --lila |
| 1996/11/4 [Health, Health/Women] UID:31986 Activity:nil |
11/3 Hi, I'm too embarrased to ask the local pharmacist, but...
I've been to different pharmacys and couldn't find any
contraceptive pills. Where the heck are they located? I've always
thought they're off the counter.
\_ "the pill" is not OTC medicine. visit your doctor or Planned
Parenthood. if you're too embarrassed to do that, you're not
mature enough for sex. --aaron
\_ Thank you, Dr. Ruth.
\_ Way to be sensitive, aaron! ":/( --joeking
\_ Listen...don't listen to people putting you down like that.
The bottomline is that you need a place that will provide
you counseling and information on the Pill. It's a big
decision to make, one reason it's not an OTC medication.
Although Tang is _not_ the most highly reputed medical center,
it has a fairly good women's clinic. In order to get a prescription
for the Pill, you need to be examined by a medical professional
who can then talk with you and decide on the best birth
control pill for your body (yes, there are several different
kinds of birth control pills out there). Make an appt
at Tang Center, Planned Parenthood, or your ob/gyn. --christine
\_ Tang's a pieceashit. They charged me for condoms that I
bought for my house. A lot. I got some pretty hilarious
looks in the pharmacy waiting room when the counter guy heaped
a couple hundred of them on the counter for me, though. -John
\_ There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Comdom -ausman
\_ Or you could by them at your local drug store for three
times the price. Would you rather deal with that?
\_ "The Pill" can have nasty side effects, especially if you smoke,
so they require you to talk to a doctor first to make sure it's
not going to kill you. (The odds of it doing so are slim, but
with as many millions of people as take it, that would end up
being a couple thousand dead people a year.)
\_ PLEASE STOP -- the notion of soda geeks having sex is just too
revolting ! :) :)
\_ Welcome to 1996.
\_ We are breeding like bunnies as part of our plan to
take over the world!
\_ If you are too embarrassed to go to Tang, Planned Parenthood
will give you good, supportive, contraceptive services on a sliding
fee scale. -ausman |
| 1996/10/6 [Health] UID:31923 Activity:nil 52%like:31919 |
10/2 Jobs at Organic Online: see /usr/local/csua/jobs/Organic
or http://www.organic.com/Home/Info/Jobs/index.html |
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