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| 2013/2/4-3/4 [Finance] UID:54596 Activity:nil |
2/4 Another look at equity compensation, from AngelList:
<DEAD>angel.co/salaries?utm_campaign=salaries<DEAD>
Most interesting take away after looking at the data for a while:
Designers get more equity than developers, at least in Silicon
Valley. Marketing and Sales types get just as much. |
| 2011/3/14-4/20 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:54058 Activity:nil |
3/14 42% of millionaires don't feel rich -PAM (Poor Ass Millionaire)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110314/lf_nm_life/us_fidelity_survey
\_ That's because they keep comparing their lives to rap videos.
\_ I blame nerdcore. |
| 2009/10/28-11/3 [Finance, Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:53477 Activity:low |
10/27 SAT score and family income:
http://www.businessinsider.com/sat-scores-and-family-income-2009-10
\_ Is there any 3D charts showing three variables (income, race, SAT
score)? I wonder whether race or income is a bigger factor. Of
course race and income are not completely independent, but I'm
wondering about different income and same race vs. same income and
different face.
\_ I'm sure race is a big factor. However, no one is stupid to
publish it and be called a racist, like that guy in Bell Curve.
It would be the Satanic Verses equivalent to your career
these days.
\_ I think race is a complete non-factor. You don't really
believe some races are smarter than others do you? |
| 2009/10/2-21 [Health, Finance] UID:53425 Activity:nil |
10/1 http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/02/man-with-transplante.html Man with transplanted hands. It says nerve cells grow about an inch a month so he'll have sensation in his fingers soon. I thought nerve cells, after broken, cannot be re-connected. Is this something new? \_ You thought wrong. If that was true then every woman who has her nipples moved during breast implants or lifts would lose all sensation in her nipples. Nerves grow back, but slowly. \_ so the paralegics that broke their necks have no hope, ever? \_ Peripheral nerves grow back at that rate. Central nerve growth rates are being studied, but at the moment, the convention is that central nerves do not grow back appreciably. \_ from my neurosurgeon friend: "central nervous system (brain and spinal cord) neurons, in general, do not regenerate after injury. peripheral nerves (in arms and legs, and yes nipples) can regenerate. This only occurs significantly in the optimal environment: no scarring, nerves sew together and re-aligned, injury not close to spine, young patients, and repair immediately after injury. Even with the above, recovery is often incomplete and poor. A re-attached hand will get some sensation, and maybe some innervation of muscles in the hand--but nothing close to normal usually. Movement of fingers should be decent because the muscles in the forearms move the fingers, not the muscles in the hand that control fine movements." |
| 2009/9/9-15 [Finance, Reference/Tax] UID:53350 Activity:nil |
9/9 Tax question: I have lots of long-term capital gains and some
short-term capital losses. I'd like to use the losses to offset
the gains. However, since the long-term cap gains rate is lower,
should I wait until I have some short-term cap gains to claim the
loss? (I have no short-term cap gains right now.) |
| 2009/2/23-26 [Finance] UID:52625 Activity:nil |
2/23 "Deficits don't matter." --Dick Cheney |
| 2009/1/22-26 [Finance, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:52442 Activity:nil |
1/22 Does "A new era of responsibility" mean that I will have to take
responsibility for the mistakes that people made in the Bush era,
like paying off national debt and helping the middle class while
the rich already got richer and got away during the Bush era?
\_ Oh hell no. It doesn't even mean you need to pay your taxes. |
| 2008/12/12-17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Finance] UID:52236 Activity:kinda low |
12/12 Angry sysadmin says we have guaranteed ourselves 30-50% decline in GDP
(based I assume on debt servicing / defaults outpacing benefits of
deficit spending)
\_ Good thing no one listens to that guy. |
| 2008/10/14-17 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:51515 Activity:low |
10/14 Too much debt from law school? Be a prostitute!
link:www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_10622483?nclick_check=1
\_ This link is not working?
\_ Clearly the lesson here is that you should only study something
if you're rich!
\_ heard of "Go to grad school only if you can afford it" ?
\_ In what way does your statement contradict mine?
\_ At least it's honest work.
\_ Bah, they're getting her on tax evasion! Fer chrissake.
\_ I love how she ended up marrying a rich Dot Commer. I personally
would have liked to hit that.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/473r48 (NSFW)
\_ That link doesn't work.
This does:
http://insiderescortsecrets.com/wordpress/tag/touchofbrazilnet
It would be nice to screw a lawyer instead of the opposite
for a change.
\_ Weird, it worked this morning. Someone must have gotten
it pulled. |
| 2008/10/8-9 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:51437 Activity:low |
10/8 Curious, how does our economy today compare to Japan's economy
10-15 years ago? I heard that they had a housing crises as well
in the old days where home values dropped over 50% of the value
and had an extended (decade long) recession. Is this true? What
are some similarities and differences between our current economy
and Japan's economy 10-15 years ago?
\_ U.S.: No savers, reserve currency, natural resources, WMDs
Japan: Savers, carry currency, export driven, no WMDs
Common: Housing bubble, equity bubble, zombie banks
\_ Not bad. You get a B+.
\_ A big difference is that Japan has declining population, with
low birth rates and virtually no immigration. -tom
\_ Japan has no gay people, just like Iran.
\_ http://www.japanboyz.com BTW what does this have to do with
their economy anyway?
\_ We should be able to export gay porn and build our economy
that way, an option that was not open to the Japanese.
\_ Have you heard of yaoi? |
| 2008/10/2-4 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:51344 Activity:nil |
10/1 "Maria Sharapova could be yours for a cool $10,000" - Y! Sports Blogs
http://www.csua.org/u/mi8
So affordable. I wonder what the rate is for not-cute-but-busty
Serena Williams. |
| 2008/9/17-19 [Finance] UID:51206 Activity:nil |
9/17 Bailout is the new IPO! It's 2000 again and big financial firms
are on fire. Spend all you want, everyone's getting on the
bailout bandwagon. It's an all new economy, just like 2000. |
| 11/23 |
| 2008/9/11-23 [Finance] UID:51131 Activity:nil |
9/21 (revived for comment)
If you are a McCain supporter who is not rich but moderately
well off, and care about "the future" (have kids), consider it
is not unlikely he will appoint Phil Gramm Treasury Secretary.
Gramm will be to the economy what Cheney was (is?) to Foreign Policy;
he will fuck it up for a generation.
\- better said by AGOOLSBEE
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/john-mccain-che.html
Just liek people probably should worry more about Sup Ct
appoinments than they should, "who will you appoint treasury
sec" is going to be a big, big, big deal perhaps demanding
of at least a spefici answer as "what is your iraq plan" and
presumably harder to say something like "i will forumlate an
appropriate response to the circumstances in conjuctions with
our generals in the field". If you do not promise to give the
secret service to have PGRAMM kept out of line of sight or
out of electronic communication with you at all times, nobody
should take you seriously ... not that anybody should after
picking a vindictve creationist moose woman.
\_ Is it too hard for you to write English? |
| 2008/7/14-16 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:50567 Activity:nil |
7/14 Onion once again more like reality than "real news"
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/recession_plagued_nation_demands |
| 2008/5/10-16 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:49927 Activity:nil |
5/10 psb are you Fair and Handsome Modern Indian Man?
http://tinyurl.com/446m8s
\- Bachnaa ae haseenon lo main aa gayaa [see below] |
| 2008/3/17-21 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:49479 Activity:nil |
3/17 So, are we or are we not in a recession?
\_ A rule of thumb is "two consecutive quarters of declining GDP."
We may not have actually hit that yet, but it seems obvious we
will. -tom
\_ it's not a rule of thumb, it's the definition used in the field.
\_ there are two definitions:
(a) what you guys said
(b) NBER defined, to summarize: significant economic slowdown
as measured by a combination of factors, including (a)
\- on a local note, of these people:
http://www.nber.org/cycles/recessions.html
frankel is ex-ucb dept econ, c. romer and d. romer are
ucb dept econ. |
| 2008/1/31 [Finance, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:49039 Activity:nil |
1/130 Partial Filmography
* Anal Expedition 11 (Evil Angel Video) (2007)
* Big White Butt Lingerie Show (Evasive Angles) (2007)
* Black Assassins (Platinum X Pictures) (2007)
* Black Dicks In White Chicks 14 (Red Light District) (2007)
* Blow It Out Your Ass (Elegant Angel Productions) (2007)
* Cuckold (JM Productions) (2007)
* Gash Bash 3 (JM Productions) (2007)
* I'll Take It Black 3 (Red Light District) (2007)
* My First White Chick (Adam & Eve) (2007)
* Nasty Universe 3 (Mercenary Pictures) (2007)
* Nutts 4 Big Butts 2 (Exquisite Pleasures) (2007)
* Smothered N' Covered 2 (Red Light District) (2007)
* Squirts So Good 5 (DVSX) (2007)
* 1 Lucky Fuck 2 (Platinum X Pictures) (2006)
* 10 Man Cum Slam 15 (Kick Ass Pictures) (2006)
* 110% Natural 10 (Red Light District) (2006)
* 5 Guy Cream Pie 25 (Kick Ass Pictures) (2006)
* 50 To 1 3 (Platinum X Pictures) (2006)
* Ass Masterpiece 1 (Naughty America) (2006)
* Belladonna: No Warning 2 (Evil Angel Video) (2006)
* Big Booty White Girls 4 (Evil Empire) (2006)
* Big Bubble Butt Anal Sluts 1 (Evasive Angles) (2006)
* Big Bubble Butt Cheerleaders 5 (Evasive Angles) (2006)
* Big Butt Teen Flesh 1 (Evasive Angles) (2006)
* Big Tit Brotha Lovers 8 (Exquisite) (2006)
* Big Wet Asses 9 (Elegant Angel Productions) (2006) |
| 2008/1/7-10 [Finance] UID:48901 Activity:moderate |
1/7 Does anyone know how rainfall is measured? Weather Underground
says my area got from 4-7" of rain in nearby areas, but I have a
bucket out on the middle of my driveway that filled about 15" (or
more) deep. Is it just my microclimate or is rainfall measured
differently than seems obvious? BTW, in my research I discovered
that meteorologists define temperature as that IN THE SHADE. I never
knew that.
\_ Temperature is not a well-defined quantity in sunlight.
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_gauge
\_ How is a rain gauge different from a simple bucket? To me,
my bucket is a rain gauge is it not?
\_ Rain totals are given per 24hr period. Did you empty your
bucket daily?
\_ No, I did not. It was empty on Friday. However, I
looked up the weekly rain totals for the last two
weeks (we are already in a new week now) and they were
about 7 inches total (5.x last week and 1.x this week
so far). I looked at a lot of Personal Weather Station
data in my general area and some reported even less
than 7 inches but none anywhere near how much is in my
bucket.
\_ Did you actually stick a ruler in your bucket to
measure it? Your method should have worked, assuming
your bucket has perpendicular sides.
\_ It's a paint bucket so yes it's a big cylinder.
I measured 14 inches just now.
\_ This passage from the web page may explain OP's problem: "Also,
rain gauges only indicate rainfall in a localized area. ......"
\_ Well, duh.
\_ If you are truly curious, you should get this
http://www.scientificsales.com/Davis-6152-Wireless-Vantage-Pro2-p/6152.htm
I would, but it's a hassle convincing the wife, hehe. ;)
\_ I am thinking about getting this or something similar. It
makes me wonder how much of our weather data really applies
to us specifically. |
| 2007/12/18-29 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:48831 Activity:low |
12/18 Awesome juxtaposition of headlines:
Scientists fear Arctic thaw has reached 'tipping point'
and
Arctic Sea Ice Re-Freezing at Record Pace
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/12/congrats-to-the.html
\_ Thank God. Once it tips can we stop hearing about this fraud
on working people everywhere? TIP! TIP! I want to hear about
global cooling for a few years (again).
\_ Tipping point meaning that after thawing a while now it will freeze
\_ Hey, global climate change skeptic: how about buying some
oceanfront property, maybe 2-3 feet above sea level,
oceanfront property, and maybe 2-3 feet above sea level,
somewhere?
\_ Why? Even the worst predictions of the IPCC say I'll be fine for
at least 100 years.
\_ so sea level's supposed to stay the same for 100 years and
suddenly jump? I don't think so...
\_ No, the worst predictions are 20cm rise in the next
century. So all I have to do is be at 2-3 feet and I'll be
fine for at least 100 years by the most alarming estimate.
But I expect the global warming hoax to be completely gone
in the next 5-10 years anyway.
\_ Then we'll be talking about global cooling and how
that is a man-made problem caused by C02.
\_ Are you going to aplogize to us all when you are
proven wrong?
\_ Are you going to apologize to us all when (okay, if)
you are proven wrong? |
| 2007/11/20-26 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:48669 Activity:nil |
11/20 Sowell explains why most income disparity statistics are bunk.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell112007.php3
\_ If by "explains" you means waves his arms wildly and says
absoultly nothing, then yes.
\_ He is confusing income disparity with class mobility.
\_ Classes aren't mentioned. -not op
\_ Just because he didn't use the word, doesn't mean that is
not what he was referring to. What do you call all his
dicussion about people moving from one tax bracket to another?
\_ He's talking about income mobility, not class mobility. -pp
\_ Explain what the difference is, please.
\_ still waiting for an answer here.. not that I really
expected a coherent one from a guy who read this
expected a coherent one from a guy who reads this
kind of crap, but still... |
| 2007/8/5-22 [Finance] UID:47536 Activity:nil |
8/5 Dear joggers. Where do you buy your sportswear? I'm looking for
comfy AND *affordable* sportswear so that I don't look like a poor
student wearing worn down Cal t-shirts and jeans. I'd like to
jog around where I work (Palo Alto) and I do NOT want to wear
over-priced collegiate shirts and pants (Cal-wear is out of the
question). PS I'm *not* looking for GAP, Polo or Ralph Lauren
designer sportswear. Anything good looking, comfy, AND
AFFORDABLE will do. Thanks for your advice.
\_ Sports Basement or TriSports. REI works too. -scottyg
\_ Why do you care what you look like while you work out? Are you
a chick? Go to Marshall's, TJ Maxx, or Ross. Sears also works.
\_ Have you ever exercised? !op
\_ Routinely and pp's point is valid, only girls or the
terribly vain care what they look like while working
out.
\_ Some guys want to hook up with the girls or other gay
men that are at the gym &c.
\_ Okay, that is a good point. I always thought of
working out as health maintenance and did not
consider the hook up aspect.
\_ I've had 2 hookups so far. Looks is VERY important
\_ Target and REI
\_ Walmart? How hard is this, really? You went to Cal? |
| 2007/8/4-6 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:47534 Activity:nil |
8/4 It's not easy being a mere single digit millionaire:
http://www.csua.org/u/j9u
\_ Obviously, we need to cut more tax. -Conservative
\_ I read that in the paper. Bunch of fucking whiners.
\_ This guy is an idiot. His house is paid and he has $2M. Maybe
I'd keep working if I was 31, but at 51 he needs to do
something he likes. If work is what he likes then fine, but
then admit that and don't complain about 12 hour days. The
article is full of suckers, which I think is the point. If the
guy cannot afford Hillsborough then maybe he should sell.
There's no honor in going bankrupt living a life you cannot
afford just because you were once worth $50M 10 years ago. |
| 2007/7/27-29 [Finance] UID:47443 Activity:nil |
7/27 hello, what are the three credit report reporting agencies?
\_ Experian, Equifax, and Transunion |
| 2007/7/25-29 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:47424 Activity:kinda low |
7/25 One way to close the gap between the rich and the poor:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19958752/site/newsweek
\ "The LAPD’s West Division has put a task force of
10-plus detectives on the case; plainclothes patrols have joined
the chase."
I wonder how many detectives Oakland police would put on the case
if this was happening at, say, Fruitvale?
\_ Oakland doesn't have enough officers, so probably no more
than usual. Oakland also has an artificial shortage of
officers, since they all work 4 10 hour shifts, giving them
3 day weekends. So on day 5 they get over time. Oakland
also has an even more artificial shortage of officers, since
plenty of Oakland cops fill internal jobs that at other
depts, are filled by non cops. The Oakland PD union should be
destroyed. I'm sure there are good people in the oakland
pd but too many of them are fucking stupid or are just riding
that cushy salary until they retire.
\_ "Los Angeles Police Department detectives think the crew has
struck more than 50 times since late last fall." If the same
neighborhood in Fruitvale has been struck more than 50 times by
the same crew, I think Oakland PD would assign quite a few people
on the case, if not 10-plus.
\_ Go to http://gismaps.oaklandnet.com/crimewatch.
Search for burglaries within 1 mile of Fruitvale and
International within the past 90 days. -tom
\_ Why don't these super-rich people buy security cameras with higher
resolution? That video screenshot is next to useless.
\_ Resolution is useless if there's no light to be captured.
Infrared cameras will help, though.
\_ Or combination of motion sensor light and cameras. |
| 2007/7/23-26 [Finance/Investment, Finance] UID:47389 Activity:kinda low |
7/23 Large majorities of people in the US and in Europe want higher
taxation for the rich, and view globalization as a negative force.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2a735dd0-3873-11dc-bca9-0000779fd2ac.html
http://video.ft.com/ukdailyvideo/?clipid=1359_FT0339
\_ One problem is defining what "rich" means.
\_ That's easy, I'm pretty sure the standard everyone in the survey
was using was "richer than me."
\_ Easily done: Income > $1,000,000 per year.
\_ "But but but that is COMMUNISM!!! Time to lobby to make
sure this never happens." -multi-millionaire
\_ Unfortunately, politicians define "rich" as between $75K and
$200K / yr. depending on who is asking the question.
\_ Sure, and they're wrong. We all know that millionaires are
rich, since they're the only ones who can afford a house
the SFBA. Kidding aside, aggressive prosecution under
existing laws and repeal of the wealthy-subsidies passed
under the Bush Admin would put us back into a surplus.
\_ Yes but the economy will halt because there will
be no more wealth to trickle down to the poor
and everyone will suffer. -Reagan #12523121 fan
\_ Mr. Reagan fan, why does trickle down smell like
something out of an R. Kelly home movie? |
| 2007/5/25-30 [Finance] UID:46759 Activity:nil |
5/25 Tips on tipping:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18825948 |
| 2007/5/21 [Finance] UID:46715 Activity:nil |
5/19 Any other SF residents on the motd? My gf and I have both
independently noticed strong sewage odors around the city of late in
random places. I've heard the city has an antiquated sewage system in
need of repair, and I'm wondering if the tipping point has been
reached. Anyone elshis still insanely rigid cock up with Sandy's
open and slick anus. John pushed forward and lodged the bulging head
of his cock in the wet spongy ass flesh. Sandy moaned and rocked her
hips in an attempt to capture more of that giant cock. John pumped at
the ass hole like a man possessed, he was possessed, and along with
the other two victims needed a release from the hellish burning itch
that wouldn't let go. Time after time the ramrod cock was jammed
into Sandy's terribly stretched rectum. Soon John was filling her
with the entire length of his cock. Like a jackhammer he drove in
and out of her hot dripping ass. Cum and milk covered the three of
them as they together bound by some invisible devilishly erotic
chain of desire worked hellishly towards one last monstrous orgasm. |
| 2007/2/20-23 [Finance] UID:45779 Activity:nil |
2/20 Any recommendations on where to find out about debt collection and
making an offer in compromise? My sister has a debt for a car that
was repossesed years ago, and I'd like to help her take care of it.
\_ "I can takes care of it" -- Guido "the bat" Vercotti |
| 2006/10/26-29 [Finance/Banking, Finance] UID:44991 Activity:low |
10/26 College degree inflation, and a BA/BS degree is worth ~$20K/year.
Also Bush loving rednecks in West Virginia have the lowest
proportion of college graduates.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/10/26/degree.value.ap
\_ I'm not saying their conclusions are wrong, but anyone who talks
about mean income without talking about median income is such
a moron that they should be ignored just on principle.
Fucking dumbass journalists.
\_ What's the difference? -- dumbass journalist
\_ The median income is the income such that exactly half the
population has a higher income and half has a lower income.
The mean is found by adding everyone's income and dividing
by the number of people in the sample set. For certain
distributions they are the same, but not typically for
income. If you live in a town with 99 poor people plus
Bill Gates, than the mean income is roughly bill gates's
income divided by 100, which is not a useful number by
itself if you want to know about the whole population.
Whereas the median will actually give you information
about the other 99 people.
\_ i guess the median is lower
\_ Because off-springs of siblings tend to be retarded.
\_ ah yes welcome to the motd where racism is not only ok but
encouraged as long as its white people we hate.
\_ It's a culture thing, not a color thing.
\_ as yes more racism, why are most liberals inveterate
racists?
\_ Bzzzt! Redneck = white. There are no 'rednecks' of any
other race/color. If you're going to use hateful terms it
helps to know what they mean so you offend the right people,
ok?
\_ What about that Hmong dude on King of The Hill? Isn't
he a redneck?
\_ way no. he's a different case, a caricature of
arrogant, overachieving asians. |
| 2006/10/26-27 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:44988 Activity:nil 66%like:44972 |
10/25 Revolt of the fairly rich
http://tinyurl.com/yy42h7 (money.cnn.com)
\_ Because they can best see the broken promises of the prior social
order where "go to school, work hard = good retirement". |
| 2006/9/23 [Finance] UID:44507 Activity:nil |
9/22 http://www.getliberty.org/people/hrich.php Wonderful guy. |
| 2006/7/25 [Finance] UID:43787 Activity:nil |
7/24 Who cares about tipping a valet $1 or $2? What I want to know is
what is the customary tip for a masseuse? That is, after I get a
massage and pay the house fee of 50 bucks, what is the customary
tip? Is it 5 dollars? Is it 10 dollars? Is it 20 dollars?
Assume no happy ending or extras. |
| 2006/6/27 [Finance] UID:43510 Activity:nil |
6/27 "these are also businesses designed for breakeven in less than six
months ... Until the first site is launched this is an equity only
opportunity, with cashflow participation proportional to equity upon
breakeven"
Should that read "after" breakeven? The way the sentence literally
reads, you don't get a salary, you get equity, and you need to pay
money to the company proportional to your equity until the company
makes a profit. |
| 2006/3/21-25 [Finance, Reference/Tax] UID:42364 Activity:nil |
3/21 I'm here to expose that Edward Magluyan has a company called INA
which is really Amway. This guys will say anything to get
you into Amway trap. He'll talk about debt elimination, tax reduction,
multiple income streams, etc. Don't buy into any of that crap unless
you want to lose money. Edward Magluyan is a really nice looking guy
and a smoooooth talker. Any time someone like that approaches you
and talk about unlimited growth potential, WALK AWAY. -really pissed
\_ I lost 30lbs in 30 days! Ask me how!
\_ A very slow guillotine?
\_ A cheese-grater. Gotta be.
\_ A cheese-grater?
\_ An angry dystopic future?
\_ so how did you get screwed? inquiring minds want to know
\_ bored sodans |
| 2006/3/7-9 [Reference/RealEstate, Finance] UID:42127 Activity:nil 61%like:42133 |
3/7 Ok, long term interest rates finally went up. We know housing is
in trouble, but what will that do to the overall economy? Will that
help control inflation, or is inflation now determined by factors
overseas?
\_ Recent inflation was 9% annual and the Fed is printing money like
crazy. It has also stopped publishing the M3 number, I wonder why?
\_ What's the M3 number? -dans, finance weenie
\_ M1, M2, M3, L are different measures of the money supply
at different levels of liquidity. You may wish to google
for M3 :-) --psb |
| 2006/3/1-4 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Finance] UID:42043 Activity:nil |
3/1 Private equity funds are raping people, laying off thousands
and spreading enough misery around the people who actually
have to work for a living before our Chinese masters
really screw with us, and all the San Francisco Chronicle
can do is send some dude to Google and photograph ultra rich
nerds eating? Fuck.
\_ KILL THE BIRDS
\_ Spew much?
\_ Amusing but if you're using the SF Comical as your primary source
of serious news you get what you pay for. For 25 cents/day I got
the comics and their trimmed down version of AP news on BART. |
| 2006/3/1-2 [Finance] UID:42038 Activity:low |
3/1 How much should I tip home improvement contractors? I'm replacing
all my windows and patio doors. The company that sells me the windows
/ doors is also doing installation. There are one foreman and two
workers in the crew. They're spending two full days at my house.
According to http://www.tipping.org/tips/TipsPageContractors.html I
should tip $50+30+30. Does that sound reasonable? I have no prior
experience. Thanks.
\_ Let me put this bluntly. You either have a lot of money, or you
are an idiot, or both.
\_ What the hell is it with you Americans and your obsession with
exact tipping percentages? You tip when you want to and you don't
tip when you don't need to. This is the land of the free and you
do whatever you like. You're not gonna get special treatment for
overtipping and you're not gonna get bad treatment for not tipping.
\_ You have too much cash to give away? You tip to people who give you
good service, who make LESS than minimum wage and depend on tips,
and who you wish to see over and over again to get the same service.
Are these contractors starving, making minimum wage, and you wish
to see over and over again? These people are highly skilled
PROFESSIONALS making good money. You are not obligated to tip
anything.
\_ I have only tipped for exceptional work, but it is up to you.
That number sounds about right.
\_ You are crazy. I tip them if I like them. I tipped my painter
$100, because I liked him and he did a good job. Lots of them
I don't tip at all. Some of them I tip in the form of lunch
and/or beer. Usually, if I tip I will give them a $20 bill
each at most. I didn't tip my window guy at all.
\_ Thanks for all the responses. I just want to know the ballpark
number. For example, the about-right number for average service at
a restaurant is 15%, so patrons can go higher or lower than that
number accorder to the quality of service they receives. So, I just
want to know the about-right number which I can then adjust
depending on how the crews do. --- OP
\_ The crews should have no expectation of being tipped. They
appreciate it if you do it, of course. It's not the same
as a waiter/waitress. You just paid those guys, say,
$100/hour to tile your bathroom and then you want to *tip*
them? Give them a case of beer unless they did an
exceptional job. On an hourly basis they make more money
than you do, even after expenses. The difference being that
they don't necessarily work 8 hours per day every day. Some
of those guys should be tipping *you*. Did you ever see
'The Money Pit'? One of the contractors drives a Corvette.
It's funny because it's true. One of my friends is a general
contractor as he says 'Roofers drive Jaguars.' Sure, your
guys are probably day laborers, but I bet you're still
paying a lot more than the $10-15/hour they are getting in
their pockets from the GC. And you want to tip them?!
\_ Roofers are also completely crazy. I met a roofer who did
a lot of work in Dutch Harbor, and he said that one time
he hired a couple crabbers, but they weren't crazy enough
to roof out there, so they quit. |
| 2006/2/21-23 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:41937 Activity:nil |
2/21 "The official poverty level is $19,307 for a family of four, $12,334
for a family of two. But the calculation includes only cash income
before deductions for taxes. It excludes capital gains and it does not
take into account accumulated wealth or assets, such as a home."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/21/politics/main1331693.shtml
\_ it depends on what the meaning of "poor" is
"the bureau said the rate might be as high as 19.4 percent, or as
low as 8.3 percent, depending on how income and basic living costs
were defined" |
| 2006/1/26-29 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:41559 Activity:low |
1/26 New report looks at where the growth in incomes of high-income
families has outpaced that of middle- and low-income households.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/25/news/economy/income_gap
\_ The rich get richer faster than the middle and lower classes.
And?
\_ The aggregation of wealth at the top is driving the middle
class into the working poor category.
\_ Aggregation? No. Middle class people making less compared
to cost of living (housing and medical in particular)
combined with a chronic inability to stop spending money
on crap they don't need drives down middle class real
adjusted worth. It can't last and it isn't surprising. |
| 2006/1/10-12 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:41320 Activity:very high |
1/10 dim-- 19 floor high rise building in the middle of the city,
starting price: $1.5 mil. All sold out before they're even
finished: http://www.thecalifornianonwilshire.com Here's a
data point for you. All the 1 bdrm high-rise condos in this area
start at $600K. Still think the city is full of poor people?
\_ Or just go to Miami and drive up and down the coast. All
those condos.
\_ Which city in "Still think the city is full of poor people?" are you
talking about?
\_ which city has a notable street called wilshire?
\_ That's my point. The "city" in the housing thread below
refers to SF.
refers to SF. -- PP
\_ Someone who honestly does not know that there are more
rich people than poor in San Francisco is not worth having
a discussion with.
\_ Really? Here's the household income breakdown
according to the 2000 Census:
$10K- 9.8%
$10K-$14.9K 5.0%
$15K-$24.9K 8.5%
$100K-$149.9K 13.2%
$150K-$199.9K 5.3%
$200K+ 6.1%
What's your definition for rich and poor? It's not
at all obvious to me there are more rich than poor
in San Francisco (I'm not sure $100K is really rich
here, but $25K is pretty damn poor). You might also
see http://www.sfbg.com/News/34/34/34stat.html
\_ The median income for a household in the city
is $55,221, and the median income for a family
is $63,545 one of the highest in the United States
at 15th place overall and 3rd in a single large city.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco%2C_California
74k in poverty: http://tinyurl.com/a3ld4
By your own (outdated) numbers, 280k making
twice the national median, 100k making 3X.
By your own (outdated) numbers, 180k making
twice the national median, 82k making 3X.
\_ Sorry bub, but the median is a terrible measure
for the point you're trying to make (which, I
have to admit is pretty darned stupid). Train
harder, grasshopper.
\_ Yes, if the city is called thecalifornianonwilshire, then it has
more rich people than poor.
\_ Wilshire and a couple blocks east of Westwood Blvd is a prime
location, not like the overpriced downtown lofts
-long-time L.A. resident
more rich people than poor. If you are living in the County of
Los Angeles, then ~35% of the households make less than $30K and
~18% make more than $100K. Now, I'm guessing most of the $100K
income types are not buying those $1.5M condos. ~10% make $150K
or more. Maybe that's the target demographic.
\_ Yes, the city is full of poor people. Then again, so is the
country. If anything, this data point proves my point, which is
that the quality of living in the city sucks unless you are a
multi-millionaire. $600K for a one bedroom condo?! Do you want
to lookup how much a house with a backyard, a FDR, and a family
room costs in the same area? Which do more people desire based
on that?
\_ yes I looked up. All the single family homes in the area
start at $1.25 mil. This is an area south of Belair, west
of Beverely Hills, and east of Brentwood. By the way
they're all old houses that were built in the 30s and 40s,
and even the $1.25 mil homes look crappy.
\_ There are some of us who don't want a huge house, and want the
things you can only get by living in the city. Why can't you
just accept this? I'm not the person attacking the 'burbs or
the people that live in them, by the way.
\_ Which is why this whole "debate" is retarded. It seems to me
that part of the point of having money is doing whatever the
hell you want. For some people that's 10 acres of giant
plastic gazebos, and for some people that's a penthouse
overlooking central park--but the implication that having
money somehow implies a specific lifestyle and that the
money somehow implies a specifici lifestyle and that the
only reason you'd do anything different is that you can't
afford it is just dumb.
\_ I have no problem accepting that people have different
preferences. What I have a problem with is the idea that
'rich' people prefer the city and that 'suburban' people
are all putzes with no sense. However, whether you live
in the city or the suburbs, a single family residence is
more attractive to more people than a condo or apartment
is. Key here: more != all.
\_ Uh, you are twisting things 100% from the original
assestions that started the debate. Some suburbanite
claimed that no one preferred high density living
and that everyone wanted a large suburban home.
Remember this?
\_ Can you read? Most people prefer a SFR to
high-density housing, even in the cities. You can
confirm this by comparing relative prices.
"It you stepped back from the class warfare language and pre-judgement
of those with a life style you can't afford, you'd soon realise
that "living" in a 650 square foot apartment isn't living. You
look at something you might never be able to afford and call it
irrational. People who have it can't imagine how you could stand
to live in a rat hole apartment. High density housing sucks to
live in and going skiing a few times a year or having a nice park
nearby doesn't make up for it." |
| 2005/10/28 [Finance/Banking, Finance] UID:40309 Activity:nil |
10/17 Do poor blacks need to hear 'millions more' excuses? -jblack
http://tinyurl.com/7w2tr |
| 2005/9/27-10/3 [Finance] UID:39899 Activity:nil |
9/27 Free credit report with credit score:
http://www.mbnaprivacyassist.com/yourreport |
| 2005/9/17-19 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:39731 Activity:nil |
9/17 Let's redistribute the wealth of rich universities to poor ones:
http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.18722/article_detail.asp
\_ I totally agree. Let's do everything at once. School, tax, etc. |
| 2005/9/10-11 [Finance] UID:39615 Activity:moderate |
9/10 Troll of the week. When you ask different kids on how they would
solve problems associated with poverty, they have the following
responses:
Communist kids: Make the rich pay for the poor and no more problems.
Socialist kids: Force the rich to help the poor a bit more.
Nazi kids: Round up all the poor people in concentration camps
Capitalist kids: Just ignore the poor people, problem goes away.
\_ unfortuantely, if you ignore the poor long enough, they
will rebel against you.
\_ Why do you hate capitalism Mr. King? Don't be surprised when
you're sent to Guantanamo Bay one day.
\_ Nazis didn't put "the poor" in camps. That was about political
and associated racial targets. More like, put the poor in the army. |
| 2005/8/5-7 [Finance, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:39018 Activity:nil |
8/5 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/05/opinion/05krugman.html "Corporations followed his lead, pouring a steady stream of money into think tanks that created a sort of parallel intellectual universe, a world of 'scholars' whose careers are based on toeing an ideological line, rather than on doing research that stands up to scrutiny by their peers." "... supply-side economics, a doctrine whose central claim - that tax cuts have such miraculous positive effects on the economy that they pay for themselves - has never been backed by evidence." "...discredit research on global warming. Despite an overwhelming scientific consensus, ... impression that the issue is still unresolved." \_ Insert obligatory NYT bashing. \_ Supply-side economics is pseudo-science now? -- ilyas \_ it depends on what he meant by "never been backed by evidence" \_ I think this 'never been backed by evidence' claim is pretty stupid. The problem is, doing real empirical work to test 'big theories' in economics amounts to experimentation on humans, so people tend to invent new theories when old ones no longer explain what's happening, rather than explain the humans, so people tend to invent new theories when old ones no longer explain what's happening, rather than explain the 'experimental data someone collected.' -- ilyas \_ ^pretty stupid^his conclusion as an expert in the field of economics \_ This is where I bring up that supply-side first arose because Keynesian economics didn't correctly explain what was happening in the 70s. But yeah, it's all pseudo-science with pseudo-scholars. No real economists are proponents of supply-side, it's all right-wingers and fundies. Such utter dumbassery. -- ilyas \_ No serious economist believes that cutting taxes always increases government revenue. So it is a bit of a straw man, but apparently believed by you. \_ No, I think the original claim was talking about supply-side economics as 'bad science,' it is you who is now trying to beg off on some weaker version of the original retarded statement. No supply-sider believes the statement you just made. -- ilyas |
| 2005/8/2-4 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:38941 Activity:nil |
8/2 This was an interesting read about an rich vs. poor riot in China.
http://csua.org/u/cvy
\_ Note to self: If surrounded by an angry mob, do not smirk and
wave dismissively.
\_ I hate to say this, but... I'm with the people. I don't agree
with the senseless destruction of precious goods like Toyota
sedans, but I think they really should have beat the shit out of
Wu and his two body guards who act like mafias in the 40s.
\_ herein lies the answer to the question "what's social justice [or
lack thereof]" below.
\_ Note how the rich dude and his two bodyguards got through completely
unscathed (except for rich dude's car), while the computer-guy bike
rider was left needing wires for his jaw and a nose job.
The only person who lost out was the supermarket owner, who actually
did the people a service having lived there 20 years.
\_ If you're rich in China, you can get away with beating people.
If you're rich in America, you can get away with murder.
If you're rich in Mexico, you can do anything you want.
It is good to be rich.
\_ Not in a real communist country. Check out what happened to
the rich in China in the 50s. All rich guys were
automatically labeled "evil" and tortured.
\_ Well, most of the wealthy rich people escaped to HK
Taiwan or Phillipines so that they can continue using
their wealth and power to influence politics that
support their agendas. |
| 2005/6/28-29 [Finance/Banking, Finance] UID:38334 Activity:nil |
6/29 How about a bubble that never pops?
http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/28/news/economy/consumer_confidence
\- the masquerade's forever
\_ http://condoflip.com |
| 2005/6/5-6 [Finance] UID:37973 Activity:moderate |
6/5 "Freakonomics" correlates legally available safe abortion with
reductions in U.S. crime rates. Discuss.
\_ Those guys have a nytimes column now. Todays is interesting.
Monkeys paying money for sex.
\_ I think it not only correlates, but makes an argument for
causation. I think it's fairly clever. -- ilyas
\_ I just saw the author of Freakonomics on cspan and was thinking
about reading the book. How is it?
\_ Their experiment about the monkey "prefering" one type of "gamble"
is stupid. The monkeys simply don't understand the concept
"owing", it is not proof of the truth that sometimes people value
things they have over things they don't.
\_ Many mammals understand the concept of ownership sufficiently
to fight for things they think they 'own.' For example food,
territory, or mates. -- ilyas
\- it isnt offered as proof of something humans do. the
monkey reasearcher is repeating a famous study in
behavior economics [behavioral = how people make
decisions in the real world vs. normative econ =
how people *should* make decisions.] which showed
certain kinds of "systemic irrationalities" like
people being risk averse in the domain of gains but
risk accepting in the domain of losses. you can search
for kahneman, loss aversion endowment effect prospect
theory. note also this is *behavioral* research so it
is about observation not proof. you can prove A has a
higher expectation value than B but you can only measure
the rate at which A is preferred to B. BTW, some of the
important work by d kahneman and amos tversky has UCB
roots. for more complex phenomenon, see ALLAIS PARADOX.
that is not as cool as a newcombe paradox but is still
pretty cool. ok tnx.
\_ my point is that this experiment (as explained in the
NYT article anyway), is *not* analogous to those
experiments. It makes the faulty assumption that the
animals understand that the transaction they are
entering into or turning down. Also, I am not saying
that these monkeys are incapable of understanding
the concept of "owing", just that it is unlikely that
they do in this case. Also, the transaction, as
explained, can not be considered "gambling", since
there seems to be only a win proposition and no
loss proposition. If i flip a coin and you give me
a $ if it is heads and take nothing if I lose, that
isn't really gambling. Unless the monkeys had a
chance to cash in half a grape, or I am otherwise
missing something, this experiment is lame.
(I'd like to read some other description of the
experiment, besides that of the NYT so, if you have
a link i'd be appreciative).
\- if i offer you a dollar or a chance a 50/50
chance to win 0, $2 that may not be Vega$ style
gambling but it is "decisionmaking under
gambling but it is "decision making under
uncertainty" which what is colloquially being
termed gambling. nobody is saying monkeys
do NPV calculations and have a sophisticated notion
of future discount ... this isnt like the famous
Rader POW econ paper but these are smart guys with
a sophisticated awareness of the limits of what
they are doing. you cant expect an NYT article
to have all the ness disclaimers. i think all they
are saying is monkey's seem to have some element
of pareto optimization and operating on the
production possibility frontier. nobody is saying
they are going to invent hedges against deprecating
silver disks.
\_ Many mammals understand the concept of ownership sufficiently
to fight for things they think they 'own.' For example food,
territory, or mates. -- ilyas
\_ i said Owing, not owning. |
| 2005/4/28 [Finance/Banking, Finance] UID:37401 Activity:high |
4/28 http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html Look at the purple "National Debt Corrected for Inflation", and look at how it skyrocketted after mid 80s. What happened? \_ Reagan. \_ But he's such a charming and honest looking guy! \_ But he won the Cold War (by outspending the Soviets)! \_ But he won the Cold War! In a race with the Soviets on "who could spend the most on the biggest nuclear stockpile / conventional arms", the U.S. won! \_ And because of that there's little threat of MAD. But do you care? No. Because it did not happen. \_ Reagan did not end the cold war. The Russian people ended the cold war. They got sick of it and their lameass government before we did, that is all. \_ The Red Sox didn't win the World Series. The Cardinals just didn't feel like scoring enough runs, that is all. \_ If the Cardinals had risen up, overthrown their coach and owner and declared a forfeit, your analogy might hold. But they did not. \_ Yet another data that proves that Ronald Reagan is one of the most charming criminals in the world. DEATH TO RONALD REAGAN!!! |
| 2005/4/26-27 [Finance] UID:37365 Activity:moderate |
4/26 The global rich list. Find out where you stand!
http://www.globalrichlist.com
Apparently, there are 5,995,017,435 people poorer than me in the
world.
\_ This is based on income, not wealth.
\_ why do they calculate hourly based on 27 hours a week?
\_ That's how many hours you work in a week in the UESR (Union of
European Socalist Republics).
\_ I find it hard to believe that an income of $200,000/yr means
you're the 107,565 richest person in the world.
\_ Maybe they're basing their numbers on what people declare on
their taxes :-) -John
\_ Dunno about income, but worldwide there are 7.3 million
millionaires.
\_ I would much rather have a 200,000 a year continuous
stream of income than 1 million dollars. (Though, you
know, not if I had to work for it).
\_ I wouldn't be surprised that 1% of that 7.3 million
millionaires own +85% of the world's wealth, just like in
the old days of aristocracy. |
| 2005/3/10 [Finance] UID:36616 Activity:nil |
3/9 Low prices at Walmart are good for low-income consumers which
are more likely liberals.
\_ I agree but look at long term implications.
\_ The goverment should give them and subsidy to make up the
difference if they chose to shop somewhere else. That way
the poor don't lose thier voice in the marketpace.
\_ Do you have specific data to back your claim that liberals are
poorer?
the poor don't lose thier voice in the marketpace. |
| 2005/1/18 [Finance] UID:35770 Activity:moderate |
1/18 http://biz.yahoo.com/brn/050113/14985_1.html Salinas with the third least affordable housing?? \_ Wow, Yuba City made the list! I guess Chico has a slightly higher median income? \_ Chico has seen a huge increase in home prices lately. I've seen houses comparable to mine going for more than 2x what I paid 4.5 years ago. Meanwhile salaries really haven't changed much. \_ I find this hard to believe. San Jose, San Mateo, Mountain view are not listed, yet Oakland made it to the top? And Merced/Modesto made the top list, even though ppl there are unually poor farmers who could barely make a living there? \_ Umm... re-read the explanation at the top of the page. It's based on median income vs home cost, not flat home cost. \_ Damn, NYC beat Modesto by just one ranking... bastards... |
| 2004/11/5 [Finance, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34699 Activity:nil |
11/5 At least one sector of the economy will always do well under Bush:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com |
| 2004/8/26-27 [Finance] UID:33171 Activity:high |
8/26 Tipping for sport instructors (hang gliding, scuba, white water rafting
,
etc.): yes or no? In what cases? tia
\_ watch Along Came Polly, that girl really tipped the scuba instr.
\_ s/tipped/tupped/
\_ here is what I think about tipping. If you can afford it, tip
as much as you want. If you're a poor ass student, don't tip.
No tip no shame. Tip however much you want. US/UK are the only
countries that tip. Go figure.
\_ Tipping in the UK is rare..
\_ Tipping in Hong Kong is standard.
\_ only in fancy restaurant. otherwise, just some spare
changes is enough!
\_ That's incorrect. 10% tip is automatically charged to
the bill. Where do you get your information?
\_ The 10% is mandatory "service charge". The
voluntary-but-standard tip is in addition to the 10%.
\_ What an idiotic situation. Automatic, compulsory tip?
That's not what a tip is, and defeats the point.
\_ Always tip 15% before tax in a restaurant in the U.S., higher
if you want. Include this in the cost of the meal. Don't use
the student excuse, even for delivered pizza, although that's 10%.
\_ http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/summer_tipping
\_ hey thanks! but i dont see barber/salon on here...
\_ 15%, same for masseuse, but because skill matters more, it's
really between 10-20%.
\_ so basically it says tip the extreme sports guys.
tennis/swimming/golf, no. I'm kind of skeptical on the first
part, so I would ask the admin people.
\_ I tipped my golf pro $10 after a couple lessons. Hey, why not?
Most of these folks aren't getting rich off their job, it doesn't
hurt to put a good finish on their day.
\_ fuck that. I tip them what they deserve. In my mind
standard service is 20%, crappy but not insulting is 10-15%,
crappy and it's because they're just born dumb is 5-10%,
crappy because they're lazy is 0$, and genuinely good is
30%. It's up to the costomer to provide an economic
signal to the waitstaff that rewards good work and
punishes bad work. If everyone were like you, all waitresses
would get paid the same, which is stupid. A good diner
waitress can make 20 dollars an hour on the same shift
as a shitty one who makes 10 an hour, which is how it
should be.
\_ thank you. -guy who grew up in Europe and doesn't really
give a damn about tipping |
| 2004/7/3-5 [Computer/SW/Unix, Finance] UID:31156 Activity:nil |
7/3 I'm reviewing my credit report, and they mention a geographical code
(e.g, 0-49362310- 1-5335, some #s changed for privacy). What sort of
information does this encode? There's one for each of my addresses. |
| 2004/5/23-24 [Finance] UID:30383 Activity:insanely high |
5/22 This is related to the uneducated bus driver lawsuit post below.
What you believe, what values you hold, what you think is
right/wrong is really a reflection of how you were
raised up as a kid. What most of you don't realize is that
most people in this world never had a chance to have
the kind of social/economic background, education, and moral
values you grew up with that you take for granted. Should these
poor/uneducated people be treated with less respect because they
grew up in a hostile environment that fosters lying, cheating,
threats, and other traits that you deem negative, but allows
them to survive? Furthermore do you think it was their choice to
grow up in such an environment? If you take all the wonderful
things you've taken for granted, I bet you'd think and
do the exact same thing as these people too. So *please*,
have more empathy for those people who are less fortunate than
you. And PS while I think the bus driver is a bad person, the
self-righteous op is a total asshole and should just pay for
the damages because he has a bad attitude.
-guy who grew up poor, absolutely no sympathy for the op
\- just out of curiosity, does Affirmative Action
fill you with hate? How about legacy admissions?
Which do you hate more? --psb
\_ Whichever one takes up more spots from those who
earned a seat the hard way. You can add sports
admits to the list while you're at it.
\- well let's ask it this way, between A, B and C
who are identical except A is AlumniFamily,
B is Black and C is a BasketBall Center, how
do you rate A,B,C in terms of admission order?--psb
\_ DCBA, D=SES (ie poorness). C because it's kinda
like maintaining a part time job, then B
because A is worthless.
\_ I assign zero extra points to all three.
\_ I'd assign a little to the Basketball player
because he has less free time for academics
but managed the same grades, and he'll help the
school raise money. -!op, doesn't like sports.
\_ Sports are a talent, like art or dance,
and deserve to be recognized.
\_ Agreed, but they should not be valued
above academic achievement.
\_ says who? they are all equally
important. quit discrimintating!
\_ fuck no, you know there are other things that
take time from academics. basketball doesn't
make you a better person than a violinist or
whatever. or a video game junkie ;)
\_ I don't believe in the 'Tolkien Orc' theory of moral development.
I believe people have an intuitive understanding of right and wrong,
and growing up around immoral people does not, ultimately, excuse
immoral behavior. You are going to tell me I was better off in
lovely USSR than people here in inner cities? You don't know what
bad is. -- ilyas
\- while the circumstances of your upbringing do affect
your deportment and values, first of all, there is more
to it than "economic class". i suppose it is a bit of a
cliche but you dont need to buy into any kind of model
minority myth to appreciate many not-especually welloff
asian/indian children do have more "respect for authority",
whether that is school teachers or parents or elders in
general than those from certain other minotiries. next,
by the time you are in your 20s, especially if you left
your parents sphere for a cosmopolitan place like
berkeley, you have some additional factors to influence
independent development. third, why cultural factors
independent development. third, while cultural factors
may explain certain behaviors, it doenst necessarily
justify them ... relativism observed in sociology or
anthopology dont ness lead to philosophical relativism.
to use a "low" example, it may be the norm in chinese
dimsum places to push your way to the front rather
than take a number, but the macdonals practice of
lining up [one line or n?] is more "civilized". --psb
\_ So you're saying there's something wrong with black kids?
\_ I am sure you were better off growing up in the USSR than
\- the ones who push in front of you while you are in
the middle of a transaction at mcdonalds? yes. --psb
\_ I believe you were better off growing up in the USSR than
really poor people in America are. I don't think you realize
how violent and dangerous the Housing Projects really are.
Something like 1 in 5 young men end up injured or dead and
3 out of 4 in prison. -ausman
3 out of 4 in prison. Having said that, there are -ausman
3 out of 4 in prison. Having said that, there might be more
options or at least the notion of more options for poor
in the US. Poverty is almost as much a state of mind
as a physical condition, at least after the basic needs
are met. -ausman
\_ This is such bullshit. "Oh woe, I'm poor so it's ok that I
totally work the system to totally fuck over some other guy I
hit with my vehicle". Survive? What a bunch of total bullshit.
This isn't some hard scrabble third world nation where one must
kill to get food on the table that night. Our poor live better
than the middle-classes (when they exist) in other countries.
The op certainly should *not* have to pay his own damages that
were inflicted upon him by another party. The op can be the
biggest asshole in the universe but if he was wronged, in this
country, he has the legal right to seek justice. He has done
so. The bus driver made every effort to avoid justice and
thankfully the op was persistent and finally nailed him. Your
whole line of reasoning is insulting and offensive and holier
than thou. Being poor does not in any way relieve one of the
moral duties and obligations the rest of us have. It's called
"being responsible". There was a time I was so poor I couldn't
afford to eat. I owed more than I owned and was in desperate
need of a paycheck but I didn't go out and ruin other people's
lives over it. And, as if mattered, how do you know the bus
driver doesn't make more than the op? If the op is a student,
he's making nothing. Boo hoo, let's all reduce the standards
for poor people because they're subhuman and just can't hack it.
Let's feel superior to them and look down on them and make
exuses for them. Pity the poor and feel better about yourself
at the same time! What a grand philosophy!
\_ I agree with most of what you say but I still think that
calling someone pathetic for making $1600/month as a bus driver
is just wrong. You can call him whatever you want for wrongdoing
the OP but I don't see how making $1600/month through a hard
work automatically makes someone pathetic.
\_ It is obvious to me you have never really been poor and probably
don't even know any genuinely poor people. The middle class
in say, Mexico, have a much better life than poor people
in the US, even if their standards of living are comparable.
But I agree with you on the morality rant. I think that growing
up poor saved me from the materialism that afflicts to many
Americans.
\_ I agree with OP. I was kind of poor growing up and it had a
detrimental effect on my morality. Luckily some of my friends
parents were really good people and their example taught me to
try to be a good person. Furthermore, I'm sure I was much
better off than the 25% of children who lived under the poverty
line in 1994 (source Herbert, B. : "One in Four,"
The New York Times, 16 December 1996 cited from
http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/ams3/rich1.html This does not
mean that we should excuse criminal or anti-social behavior from
the poor. Instead, we should realize that if we want to reduce
crime and generally make society better for everyone we should
focus on the crippling effect of poverty on children. -!OP
\_ Being poor did not have a detrimental effect on your morality.
There are plenty of poor people with high moral standards. If
there weren't, the streets would be running in blood. You had
no morals because your parents didn't instill any in you. If
wealth == higher morals then why are so many rich people such
complete scumbags? There's no correlation between moral
standards and wealth. The effect of poverty on children is they
don't get enough decent food and are surrounded by drug dealers
who are often their own parents. If you want to reduce crime,
government handouts are not the answer. Instilling moral values
in people will increase moral standards, not government cheese
and section 8 housing.
\_ well, gov't cheese was a result of handouts for the rich.
Cheney got handouts for his pals at Haliburton. The rich have
been getting all kinds of handouts. I guess they earned it
by donating so much money for politicians like Bush, etc.
The moral of the story: milking the system happens at all
levels by every class and ethnicity.
\_ In Japan, kids are required to take ethics class. They're
taught to respect the elderly, to treat others the way
they like to be treated, to observe then act, etc etc.
While I know that many Japanese people still grow up to be
dirty scumbags, I think it really has some effect. Every
JTown in every city I've been to seems a lot cleaner than
Chinatown.
\_ For whatever reasons, Japan is a much more comformist
culture than China. |
| 2004/5/20 [Finance, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30330 Activity:high |
5/20 Another amusing first for W. First president under whom all 50 states
run deficits simultaneously.
\_ CARTER'S FAULT! DUBYA NUMBER ONE! 4 M0R3 Y32RZZZZ!!!!!111!!@#!@#
\_ Why do you hate America?
\_ I find it really hard to believe that Wyoming is running a deficit.
What is your source? |
| 2004/4/7-8 [Finance] UID:13064 Activity:nil |
4/7 Free Credit Report
http://www.consumerinfo.com
I know someone was asking about this a few days ago.
\_ is it true that requesting one of these reflects poorly on
your credit?
\_ request your credit report twice and find out. |
| 2004/1/16 [Finance/Banking, Finance] UID:11806 Activity:nil |
1/15 Any tips on not getting your financial aid reduced (FAFSA app) due
to your parents owning a home?
\_ have yourself declared a ward of the state, join the military
or go to jail. Otherwise you are out of luck. My wife, age 25,
was still considered "dependent" on her parents when she went
to medical school. And their home ownership did get her dinged
for less financial aid.
\_ She was considered dependent because she never supported
herself (> 50%) not because her parents owned a house.
That's her fault.
\_ So you want to cheat the system and screw poor student out of their
money while you rich fucks steal it from them? Well, aint that just
the same god damned story throughout the ages! Fuck you white boy!
\_ I am !=op but all I see are unclaimed $ for "disadvantaged"
people and not enough for middle-class people just because
they own a home it is automatically assumed they can pay for it
or carry the debt-load for the next 5-10 years.
\_ Take out a second mortgage! That's what you're supposed to be
doing! Not soaking the poor! I put myself through school
with no loans. I have no sympathy.
\_ not many people sleep around for tuition money
\_ I'm not pretty enough to get paid to fuck strangers. I
worked my way through school and it wasn't that workfare
crap where students get overpaid for doing nothing on
campus. |
| 2003/12/5-6 [Finance] UID:11323 Activity:nil |
12/5 James Baker just put in charge of "restructuring" Iraq's debt.
Yeah, that James Baker
http://www.hereinreality.com/baker.html |
| 2003/10/30 [Finance, Finance/Investment] UID:10862 Activity:nil |
10/29 Here it is. Bush in '04. No one cares about anything but the economy:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031030/D7UGHGD02.html
\_ Yeah, no one cares about blatant lying, coverups, or botched
invasions. No one cares about America's debt. No one cares about
the rape of the environment or the erosion of our civil liberties.
Not if they can buy more Playstation 2! *sigh* How's Canada these
days?
\_ Nope, they don't, actually. If they cared about any of
those things Clinton wouldn't have been elected the first time.
The economy is the most important thing to voters and to many
voters the only important thing. You're naive and childish if
you think it's about playstations. It's about being able to
raise one's children better than one was raised. Welcome to
the adult world.
\_ so if the nations parks and wild lands have been destroyed
and we're in a constant state of war with the rest of the world
with increased child asthma rates from pollution and
the inability to live safely in our homes without being
randomly detained without trial how exactly do we provide
a better life for our children? Also, if you see how wrong
things are going in this country and turn away becuase
you don't believe you can change it it doesn't make you
mature it makes you a coward.
\_ You know air pollution levels have been dropping
steadily since the 70's. Even under *gasp* republicans.
And I don't think most Americans mind that we're in a
constant state of war with people who have been attacking
us over the last 10-20 years.
\_ Fine, so we dissagree. My point is that the motivation
for poeple caring about these issues is that poeple
want to make this country a better place for their
children than it was for them. You claimed that
all people care about is the economy because that's
what matters for the quality of life of their children.
When I refute you, you come back with "oh yeah? well
the Republicans are better on these issues anyway."
I believe that some of the republican leadership
is right on about the environment, actually. I just
think that the average republican on the street
(like you) is a loudmouthed selfish jerk who votes
based entirely on their projected income tax
burden and doesn't care about society at large
or the long term future of this nation.
Your comments bear that stereotype out to a tee.
\_ And fuck you!
\_ If you're such an adult, how come you can't be bothered to
use motdedit like the rest of us?
\_ *laugh* That's the best you can do? Golly, it's gotta be
Gore in 04 now with *that* great zinger! Ouch!
\_ Hey you know what? Fuck you too!
\_ You are right... MOVE THERE THEN.
\_ Guess what? Fuck you!
\_ The economy? The economy has a good chance of crapping up
next year. |
| 2003/10/20-21 [Finance, Recreation/Food, Computer/SW/Security] UID:10707 Activity:low |
10/20 Ever wonder why you get some much junk mail? It's because the United
States Postal Service encourages such practice!
http://www.usps.com/features/fourstepstodirectmail.htm
\_ of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations...
\_ Yeah, they're self supporting.
\_ poor trees.
\_ theyre grown on tree farms for the purpose. so of like your
\_ theyre grown on tree farms for the purpose. sort of like your
lunch.
\_ yes the forests of Canada, Madagascar and Burma
are one vast tree farm.
\_ yawn. no one is chopping trees in madagascar to get
paper to send you junk mail. it takes 50,000 trees
to print *each* edition of the sunday NYT. you think
they're stripping madagascar? no, it's all tree farm
trees raised for that purpose.
\_ poor cows.
\_ and poor wheat and corn and everything else grown for
us to murder and eat. |
| 2003/9/27 [Finance] UID:29546 Activity:nil 64%like:10349 |
9/26 http://csua.org/u/4jf [obnoxious url shortened. you're welcome] Illegals ruining economy for poor people in Atlanta. If only they could drive and vote everything would be ok. \_ could you use http://csua.org's URL shortener, please? \_ and could you (op) also use the bigotry shortener? thanks. \_ Lets deport all the fat sysadmins so that poor people can have jobs. |
| 2003/9/27 [Finance] UID:10349 Activity:high 64%like:29546 |
9/26 http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/0903/23equal.html;COXnetJSessionID=11S96PHlEeSvPhN1azzeP8huSXa2KEhBrr3mVIqg0PxfSgfuw22T!1540365208?urac=n&urvf=10646862051000.2728927505806593 Illegals ruining economy for poor people in Atlanta. If only they could drive and vote everything would be ok. \_ could you use http://csua.org's URL shortener, please? \_ and could you (op) also use the bigotry shortener? thanks. \_ Lets deport all the fat sysadmins so that poor people can have jobs. |
| 2003/9/5 [Finance] UID:10089 Activity:nil |
9/4 I am moving back to the Bay Area this fall. What resonable
storage places are there (for a piece of furniture and maybe books)?
And any decent place on the Peninsula with affordable rent?
\_ define 'affordable' for your situation. |
| 2003/8/7 [Finance] UID:29267 Activity:very high |
8/6 How many of you liberals have read The Road to Serfdom
by Nobel laureate Hayek?
\_ if he's not a physicist, a chemist, a biologist/medical researcher
or a writer he's not a nobel laureate in my book. the econ and
peace "prizes" are a joke.
\_ alas, so are you.
\- er i think you can have issues with the literature
prize, but the econbn prize is pretty solid, although
prize, but the econ prize is pretty solid, although
there are trends. name a couple of econ nobels you
would revoke. --psb
\_ why bother posting 4 word, 1 liner drivel like this? does
this sort of post really make you feel smart or something?
\_ yes, does questioning people's motivation make you feel
smart or something? |
| 2003/7/24 [Finance] UID:29126 Activity:nil |
7/24 Faith based economics:
http://csua.org/u/3pr
\_ Mission accomplished! Bring em on! Let's roll! |
| 2003/1/10-11 [Finance] UID:27058 Activity:kinda low 50%like:27057 50%like:27063 |
1/10 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39084-2003Jan10.html Davis economy hits home |
| 2003/1/9 [Transportation/Car, Finance] UID:27049 Activity:nil |
1/9 when a girl says you're not ambitious enough does that mean you're
not rich enough? you don't have a big house? you don't have the right
degrees? right car? what does that mean?
\_ It means that you have no purpose in life, no plan for the future,
no thoughts on improving yourself.
\_ a girl is quite capable of asking "are you rich enough" It usually
comes out as "what kind of car do you drive?"
\_ you asked about this once before. It means that you're a FUCKING
LOSER.
\_ It means you do not have a strong enough desire for success
or achievement. I.e., you play too much EverQuest instead
of writing that killer app.
\_ It means she's a gold digging bitch. Move on, enjoy life with a
real girl. |
| 2002/8/21 [Finance] UID:25635 Activity:nil |
8/20 National Debt - the debt continues to grow.
http://www.poop.org/news-i/launder-2.html |
| 2002/6/16-17 [Finance] UID:25117 Activity:very high |
6/16 Is the Last Starfighter a poor man's Star Wars, or just a better movie?
I pose this to you, Motd Movie Critic.
\_ At the surface level, LSF and the first SW appear to be variations
on the same poor-boy-saves-galaxy theme but the similarity ends
\_ you mean "poor white boy" why can't
poor non-whites eve save the galaxy?
poor non-whites ever save the galaxy?
\_ 'cause black men are always getting into trouble
with the MAN (ex. SW:ESB)! Well, except in Men in
Black, ID4 and DS9 where a poor black man saves
the galaxy.
\_ DOn't forget Aliens!!!!!1!!
Asian men have often saved the galaxy as well
(Consider Sulu in ST:TVH, ST:UC and "Harry" in
ST:Voy, given the economics of the 23rd and 24th
centuries both could be considered "poor" as they
don't earn anything except room, board and
promotions).
there. LSF never really leaves that level and takes the viewer on a
child's arcade-comes-to-life fantasy while SWI sets the stage for
deeper issues of good and evil and the nature of man. "better" is
in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes you want bubble gum. Other
times you want bubble gum with good vs evil and the nature of man
thrown in. -MMC
\_ but you have to admit, Burgess Meredith's car in LSF was way
cooler than the Time Travelling Delorean.
\_ Burgess Meredith? Try again.
\_ Hint: We got trouble in river city. |
| 2002/4/15-6/8 [Finance] UID:24446 Activity:insanely high |
6/7 Please read this over and see if you get excitied at all near the
end
Relationships between owners and workers can be found throughout
the world. The owners primary concern is the accumulation of
wealth through capital while workers are primarily concerned
about the simple accumulation of utility usually generated from
consumption. Thus our problem of maximizing capital and
maximizing utility invades all aspect of economics. However for a
business to succeed it takes stategy. A strategy on how best
tackle the problem at hand. We will see that capital ownership is
but a small issue and instead of one simple problem we are faced
with a daunting problem of corrordination of ALL firms.
Relationships on how businesses utilize capital owned by others
will turn out to be our biggest cordination issue.
A simple model business is the best place to start. Lets assume
for simplicity (or complexity as we will see) that we have a new
good called Unobtanium
To get an idea of the complexity we are dealing with consider the
purpose of production. This is a simple question but upon
inspection leads to some interesting observations. A product
really serves three functions; one for the economy, one for the
buyer (agent), and directly one for the producer (firm). It is
best to start with the firm. The purpose of production in
relation to the firm is profit. The firm is in the business of
production for the profits obtained. If we assume domestic
owndership this is an optimal condition. The agent has a similar
purpose in their accumulation of utility from consumption of the
good. Less known however is the interaction of the economy and
the production of the good. Ideally the objective of economics
is the efficient allocation of resources. Goods are the
mediators (along with money) which allow for allocations to
occur. Thus goods have a very strong effect in reallocating
resources. Secondly a good has secondary effects upon markets.
Its best to see by example. Consider the sale of a car. A car is
a good which has very high secondary effects upon markets in that
it induces demand in a myriad of other markets namely, service
stations, tires, roads, insurance, etc.
The question of why produce a good must therefore answer what
will be the effect of not only the firm but also the agent and
economy as a whole. Stategically its important to produce
whenever the net effect is positive FOR ALL involved. However how
can we determine the net effect? When dealing with firms and
agents this is a fairly simple matter, but gets significantly
more difficult with our introduction of the economy
considerations. First we must consider the distribution of money.
If production leads to cause money transfered OUT of the country
we will rule this as a negative effect. Conditions where costs
paid to foreign entities are perfectly offset with revenue from
foreign entities will be considered neutral. Secondly we must
deal with our secondary effects. We have already dealt with money
so now we must deal with capital. The secondary effects can be
negative if the capital appreciation of foreign interests are
higher than the capital appreciation of domestic interests.
What we can see is that even though we generally consider foreign
ownership of capital as negative conditions can be manipulated
such that positive effects domestically can offset any negatives.
\_ The firm should produce guns so that I, the buyer-agent, can
purchase one and shoot you in the knee. |
| 2001/11/28 [Finance] UID:23128 Activity:nil |
11/27 How do you solve ilyas' 3rd question?
\_ http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath334.htm |
| 2001/9/22 [Finance, Politics] UID:22585 Activity:low |
9/21 What is the formal definition of a recession and depression?
>dict depression
2: a long-term economic state characterized by unemployment and
low prices and low levels of trade and investment
>dict recession
n 1: the state of the economy declines; a widespread decline in
the GDP and employment and trade lasting from six months
to a year
>conclusion: depression = long term, recession = short term
\_ A recession, at one time, was just that--a shrinking economy
(not just decreasing economic growth) which often went hand
in hand with a panic. Herbert Hoover coined the term "depression"
to try and reassure people during the prolonged effects of the 1929
crash (it's just a little depression is all, or something to that
nature)--it was probably taken ironically, and worked its way
into common usage. -John |
| 2001/7/17-18 [Finance, Finance/Banking] UID:21829 Activity:high |
7/17 economy derives benefit from dad smokers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1442000/1442555.stm \_ Economics is sometimes a cruel filter to apply to your vision of the world. \_ Only sometimes? |
| 2001/7/5-6 [Finance] UID:21715 Activity:high |
7/4 What is a good way to get a credit report without having to use the
subscription services that charge you monthly or yearly fees?
\_ you can pay a one-time fee for yourself for like $8
\_ aren't they free from the credit agencies once per year?
\_ not in CA. Check out http://experian.com or http://equifax.com for a
list of current prices. It's $8 in CA.
\_ Apply for something you know you'll be refused for.
\_ I typed in "free credit report" in google. came up with this:
http://www.consumerinfo.com |
| 2001/6/18 [Finance] UID:21555 Activity:nil |
6/18 Larry Ellison, now that you're bubble has burst, what are you going to
do? "I'm going sailing, like all the other rich kid maggots!!
-<DEAD>www.oracleac.org"<DEAD>
\_ dude, ellison should have a book written about him, oh wait, he
has: http://static.stileproject.com/rnd/img/book1.jpg
\_ nah, this is what should happen to ellison and billy gates:
http://www.stileproject.com/manga.html |
| 2001/6/15 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Finance] UID:21530 Activity:insanely high |
6/15 So who is this kinney anyway? http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~kinney is just a picture with no details. finger kinney has no info either. \_ BA, cal physics. doing phd in econ at usc starting fall. Thinks most IT people are too lazy, and don't do much work. Likes the web as the "common application interface". Took EECS 126, 61B with hilfy., math 50A/B, econ 202A/B. Smart math guy. Jon's age. \_ BA, cal physics. started off in chem E. switched to physics later. doing phd in econ at usc starting fall. Thinks most IT people are too lazy, and don't do much work. Likes the web as the "common application interface". took:EECS 120/L, 126, 61B with hilfy., math 50A/B, econ 202A/B "because they were interesting." Smart math guy. Jon's age. \_ Smart math guy? Give me a break. \_ Ooooh, we got a "real" mathematician on our hands! \_ I want to be a smart math guy when I grow up! -- ilyas \_ how'd he do in 61b? \_ he's not a cs guy. nuff said. \_ I guess physics is a pretty good major if you are not good enough to get a engineering degree, but Econ?!? That's a drinking/golf major, big downgrade from phyiscs. I guess my question is answered, Kinney is YASL. \_ he thought ugrad econ was too easy. \_ have you ever taken a grad econ course? they're not the same as undergrad econ. It's about modelling systems using diff eqs and other math tricks. Have you taken a grad econ course at Berkeley? Taught by Brad De Long? Or are you yet another motd wanker(person who speaks from the arse)? \_ "Yet Another ... " ? \_ Soda Luser \_ groupies at an Idiot Parade show (socal punk). \_ So who are the hookers? --dim \_ could someone please explain what's going on in that picture? maybe someone could narrate it? \_ groupies at an Idiot Parade show (socal punk band). \_ maybe we should ask kinney himself... |
| 2001/5/8 [Finance] UID:21208 Activity:high |
5/8 debt be gone!
\_ Bzzzt. Try again!
\_ Long term federal deficits are good. It limits the ability
of the feds to screw around and spend our money on bs social
welfare programs. Weak central gov. good! |
| 2001/5/5 [Finance] UID:21173 Activity:nil |
Once upon a time, pretty Polly Nomial was skipping through a field of vectors when she came to the edge of a singularly large matrix. Now Polly was convergent, and her mother had made it an absolute condition that she never entered such an array without her brackets on. But Polly had changed her variables that morning and had been feeling particularly badly behaved, she ignored her mothers's condition on the grounds that it was insufficient, and made her way in among the complex elements. Rows and columns enveloped her on all sides. Tangents approached her surface. She grew tensor and tensor. Quite suddenly, three branches of a hyperbola touched her at a single point, she oscillated wildly and lost all sense of directrix. She tripped over a square root protruding from the erf, and tumbled headlong down a steep gradient. When she was once again in possesion of her variables, she found herself apparently in a non-euclidean space. She was being watched, however: that smooth operator, Curly Pi, was lurking inner product. As his eyes devoured her curvilinear coordinates, a singular expression crossed his face. Was she convergent? He wondered. He decided to integrate improperly at once. Hearing an improper fraction behind her, Polly rotated and saw Curly approaching with his power series extrapolated. She could tell at once from his degenerate conic and his dissipative terms that he was bent to no good. ``Eureka!'' she gasped. ``Ho,ho,'' said our operator. ``What a symetric little asymptote you have. I bet your angles are just dripping with secs.'' ``Stay away from me!'' she said. ``I haven't got my brackets on.'' ``Calm yourself, my dear,'' he said. ``Your fears are purely imaginary.'' ``I, I,'' she thought, ``Maybe he's not normal..Maybe he's even a homomorphism.'' ``What order are you?'' the brute demanded. ``Seventeen,'' she replied. Curly leered. ``Enough of this idle chatter. Lets go to a decimal place I know, and I'll take you to the limit.'' ``Never!'' she gasped. ``Arcsinh!!!'' He swore the vilest oath he knew. Coshing her over the coefficient with a log until she was powerless, Curly removed her discontinuities. He stared at her significant places and began smoothing out her points of inflection. Poor Polly. She could feel his hand tending towards her asymptotic limit. The algorithmic method was now her only hope. Her convergence would soon be gone forever. Curly's radius squared itself. Polly's loci quivered. He intergrated by parts. He intergrated by partial fractions. The complex beast even went all the way around and did a contour intergration. Curly went on operating until he was completely and totally exhausted of all his primitive roots. When Polly arrived home that night, her mother noticed that she had been truncated in several places. But it was too late to differentiate now. Nine transformations later, she went to L'Hopital and generated a small but pathological function which left zeros and residues all over the place and drove poor Polly to deviation. The moral of this story is: If you want to keep your expressions convergent, keep them well differentiated from complex operators. \_ "intergrated"? |
| 2001/4/27 [Recreation/Dating, Finance] UID:21122 Activity:high 75%like:21123 |
4/27 When judging men, what is more important to you: face, body, brain,
personality, and hygiene. Give percentages in that order.
\_ what about personal wealth? I'd date/marry a ugly fat dumb dull
rich guy.
\_ I agree. - Mrs. Gates.
\_ point taken. but then that works for gals too. okay:
wealth, looks, brain, personality, hygiene, abilities in bed
\_ I don't think that most guys care that they are dating
a rich or a poor girl. Abilities in bed are probably
orders of magnitude more important.
\_ I'd date a rich girl over a poor girl if her daddy had more
real wealth than I was likely to have.
\_ what about genital size?
\_ size does matter, but money matter more than size.
- A. N. Smith
\_ cmlee? is that you? |
| 2000/8/23 [Finance] UID:19076 Activity:high |
8/23 Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!!!!!
\_ Rudy can't fail.
\_ Rudy is richard's new butt-buddy
\_ Sue recently bought a large house in Minnesota. Note: Even as first
runner up at $100k, she could still afford it...
\_ don't watch survivor much, but why is Rudy, the eldest guy there
surviving for so long? Is he quite helpful to the group?
\_ Everybody wants to be the second-to-last person along w/ Rudy,
because Rudy is harmless but everyone hates him. So the jury
makes him second.
\_ People hate Rudy? I thought people hated Rich. And the reason
Rudy is still there is because he's in the 3-4 person voting cabal
of Rich, Rudy, Susan, and Kelly. If you look at the voting
history, these guys take out everyone else one by one. |
| 2000/8/14-15 [Finance] UID:18983 Activity:kinda low |
8/14 http://www.c2.net/redhat \_ Does this mean Sameer is finally rich? \_ Sameer was always rich. |
| 2000/6/5-8 [Finance, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:18414 Activity:nil |
4/65 A couple of new IT positions available at NSSB in
/csua/pub/jobs/NikkoSalomonSmithBarney or
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~yumin/nssb
Also to answer those of you who asked if an IT person can become a
trader, one IT has become an equity junior trader in June. --yumin
\_ One out of how many? |
| 2000/2/29-3/4 [Finance] UID:17658 Activity:kinda low |
2/29 Graduating in June? Pimp yourself for a $100 Amazon gift certificate.
<DEAD>survey.collegehire.com/survey/SurveySend.html<DEAD>
\_ Actually, you don't even need to be graduating, just need to be
a CS or EECS major. -dans
\_ Not true. I sent in my resume and they wrote back and said
thanks but no thanks b/c I wasn't graduating this spring.
- jowens (who posted this in the first place)
\_ How do they afford shit like this? The companies listed on their
website don't look that impressive.
\_ Hmmm. . . perhaps they had another survey for folks who
aren't graduating. I didn't bother to send in a complete
resume. As for how they can afford it, lots of dumb VCs. -dans
resume. As for how they can afford it, lots of dumb VCs.
And after you take the money and run from CollegeHire,
boycott Amazon. -dans
\_ Yeah and you're a genius. 99% of those VC's are making so
much money they can't give it away to dumb little startups
with their dumb little ideas fast enough. Let us know when
you have your first job and made your first $100.00. Your
McD's fries cook job doesn't count.
\_ Real job: been there, done that. Let me know what the
hell you've been smoking to make you dumb enough to
believe that 99% of VC's are turning massive profits.
Maybe 70% are profiting, and, of those, the number that
are making the kind of money you're talking about that
is much smaller. Quit trolling. -dans
\_ Clueless child. Where's your resume?
\_ Deluded adult, are you hiring? -dans
\_ No one like you. Just wanted to see you
back up that "been there, done that"
statement. We're not looking for NCGs at
the moment.
\_ Any clued sodans know what the real %-age is for
VC-funded net companies - that are profitable? I
understand VCs define a minimum of 30:1 returns
as "successes" with 1000(0):1 not very rare.
I've heard something like, "nine out of 10 of
funded companies can blow as long as there's the
one out of the 10 that's a success" and the VC
people make their proper cut
\_ Tier 1 VCs generally have a greater than
50% hit rate. However, the vast majority
of VCs have hit rates under 10%. -sameer
\_ Also, VCs make money no matter what happens.
They generally charge 1-3% "management fee"
which is charged on the total assett value
of the fund, and then 20-30% of the total
returns of the fund. -sameer |
| 2000/2/14-15 [Finance] UID:17510 Activity:moderate |
2/14 For all you newly rich out there -- who do you use to do your
financial management? When you start to have lots of money,
I'm sure that there are people out there who specialize in
telling you what to do to make sure it doesn't disappear...
\_ Also, how much do tax advisors cost? Any recommendations?
\_ where do you think all the money really goes?
\_ Akbar and Jeff's Financial Hut: "Hot Fries and Financial Advice,
with No Lies!"
\_ "Where the elite meet to perform neat financial feats!"
\_ What about those of us who are not newly rich? It might be that
the old rich know better. |
| 1999/10/26-27 [Finance] UID:16771 Activity:high |
10/26 Is there a correlation between the state of economy and the
birth-rate of the population?
\_ Yes.
\_ History 161 sez: "Increasing population provides markets that
allow for mass production without recession, more jobs, blah blah..."
\_ That's why the Indian and Chinese economies rule the world,
right? And Africa! Don't forget Africa!
\_ they have a very different kinds of economies.
\_ There is no linear correlation. Certainly if the economy is so
bad that people are starving there will be no population increase.
On the other hand, if the economy is so good that a large portion
of the population has a lot of money and leisure time on their hands
fewer couples opt for child-rearing. By the way, some experts
believe the world population is scheduled for a decrease in the
next century. -- ilyas
\_ when children become a child-raising/educating liability instead
of a free farm-labor asset, of course the population growth
rate is going to decrease.
\_ Hooray for selfish people! With out us, the world would have
even more resource sucking consumers like your soccer mommy
in her SUV who add absolutely no value to the planet or the
human gene pool. |
| 1999/10/25-27 [Recreation/Dating, Finance, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:16763 Activity:moderate |
10/24 Congratulations, Christine and Ari! Just Married!
\_ Lotsa CSUA couples getting married lately. Must be the economy
\_ Wow, one of the MANY CSUA couples getting married this year.
\_ Who else? Everyone else who was engaged at the same
time as those two was married long ago.
\_ and about time in this case.
\_ so how many times have they been "married" now?
\_ officially once; ceremonially once. is it any more complicated?
\_ yes, christine "look at me" lee has announced this marriage
at least four times. -tom
\_ look at her? uhm.. no.
\_ good economy, 1999/2000 hype, marriage, kids, car, mortgage.
Welcome to the world of typical working class. |
| 1998/12/30-31 [Finance, Computer/HW/CPU] UID:15141 Activity:kinda low |
12/29 Does anyone know a hack around the free WordPerfect for Linux's
"This program will expire in xx days - please enter a license"
message? --cheapo poor guy who can't afford to pay $40 for a word
processor
\_ If you're an 3L33T HAQR D00D, you can use the 5UP3R S3KR1T C0DZ
page at <DEAD>livewire.corel.com/wp8LinuxReg/register.html<DEAD>
\_ Learn LaTeX - all the _really_ cool cs people use it.
\_ So latex in the cs world doesn't refer to the material used
in condoms but some nerdish program.
\_ That's more than enough reason NOT to use it.
\_ Uh, the license is free for personal use.
\_ yes, if you'd read the documentation, you'd find there's
a web page to go to to fill out a form and get a license
number. -tom
\_ Totally! Go get 'em boy! Sick'em! |
| 1998/11/6-8 [Finance, Industry/Startup, Finance/Investment] UID:14919 Activity:nil |
11/5 So my friend works @ LinkExchange. Does that mean he's rich now that
M$ bought them for $250M?
\_ If he's the owner of LinkExhange then he's rich
if he's just a worker, unless his boss's willing to give him a raise
he won't be rich. He may even lose his job if M$ decide not to use
the old employees...
\_ If he's the VP there, then he might be rich. If he's a janitor
there, probably not.
\_ my boss (who's the Presid. of that other banner exchange co.)
tells me LE was venture capital funded, so owners will probably
get ~ 40% of that $. It was the venture capitalists who were
probably pushing hard for the sale. Remember... the target is
30 times your initial investment in 5 years if you're a venture
capitalist. -jctwu |
| 1996/10/6 [Finance] UID:31921 Activity:nil |
10/3 JOBS - http://stronghold.c2.net/jobs - equity, etc. -sameer \_ Jeez, don't you ever quit? C2 doubles in size every other month. \_ No, we don't. And if you join us you'll be fucking rich. \_ hahaha! |
| 1995/3/6 [Finance] UID:31787 Activity:nil |
3/7 Eldorado.... rich - psb |
| 11/23 |