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| 2006/4/4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42647 Activity:high |
4/3 Firefox SessionSaver plugin kicks ass. Recommend highly! -dans
\_ Actually, you will find later that it kinda sucks.
\_ Why?
\_ (1) It doesn't scale, (2) It's not all that reliable,
(3) It/Firefox have a tendency to crash.
\_ Don't have 90 myspace tabs open. I think there's
more than 1 build of session saver running around.
make sure you have the latest from the extensions
mozdev site. I haven't had it crash on me in
a long time, but I also have flashblock installed.
It's very convenient. I hate liking the same
things dans does.
\_ I'd like to have as many tabs open as I damn well
please, thank you.
\_ You're upset that you share an appreciation for a
useful tool with someone you find personally
distasteful? Words fail to describe how stupid that
is. -dans
\_ Opera's had this feature for years (sans plugin).
\_ No tabs. I grabbed the freebie Opera a few months back,
couldn't find tabs, couldn't find a Firefox style extensions
system, and uninstalled.
\_ Um, Opera is designed as MDI. Pages only exist as tabs. I'm
sorry you weren't able to figure it out.
\_ That's nice n all but if it wasn't obvious in the first
30 seconds it's a waste of my time. The software is there
to help me get my work done and improve efficiency. If I
have to spend more than 30 seconds to figure it out, it
was poorly designed. I spent several minutes looking
around for extensions but I'm sure they're there somewhere
and I'm just not smart enough to figure it out. I'll stick
with Firefox, the browser for dummies, thanks.
\_ Suit yourself, dummy.
\_ Wow, this exchange is really interesting from a
psych 101 perspective.
\_ How's that?
\_ I'm quite suited to the best browser out there,
thanks. A browser shouldn't be obscure or difficult
to figure out. If yermom can't figure it out, it is
crap. The browser does nothing more than load html
text from remote sites and display it. Why does the
program require more than the most trivial computer
ability to use it? Opera = crap. I'd go back to IE
first.
\_ Session Saver caused FF 1.0.x to crash quite often on me; I don't
know if it's better in more recent versions. --dbushong
\_ sessionsaver in moz 1.7.x and seamonkey for me seem to have problems
autosaving... sometimes I get back a session from a couple days
ago.
\_ In response to the poster who complained about
scalability/stability issues, I have yet to experience stability
problems on Firefox 1.5.0.1 on OS X, but have only been using it
for about a week now. As for scalability, it took a few minutes to
reopen Firefox after closing it with approx 65 tabs open, but that
still saves me time over manually bookmarking all tabs for every
window I have open. -dans |
| 2006/4/3-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:42633 Activity:nil |
4/3 This has to be an April Fools:
http://ajaxwrite.com
\_ That's a lot of work for April Fools. Not to meantion, it came out
a while before April 1st.
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Mar/gee20060327035493.htm
\_ not to mention that if you try the application it Fucking Works
\_ Not in my browser.
\_ Really? It even works in my anchient firefox at work, and
it never seems to run anything correctly.
\_ FF only
\_ Writely >> AjaxWrite for several reasons including a) cross browser
support that actually works and b) not yet another company in the
string of companies that make the http://mp3.com/lindows/etc asshole more
money but seem to fail miserably in the marketplace. -dans |
| 2006/3/31-4/1 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42574 Activity:nil |
3/31 About Internet porn and Britons
http://csua.org/u/fdw
\- "no thank you, we're british" -> "pls sir, may i have some more" |
| 2006/3/28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42486 Activity:nil |
3/28 <DEAD>bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330884<DEAD> Best Firefox bug report evARR!! Okay, maybe second best, there's also the bug that kills babies. -dans \_ Okay, now you've piqued my interest: What's the baby-killing bug? |
| 2006/3/25-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42434 Activity:nil |
3/24 So I am trying to fill my taxes with Tax Cut online with Firefox/Linux.
Their web site says that my platform is not supported but I may proceed
anyways. Should I proceed? Has anyone tried this already?
\_ No. I say this because I've tried Firefox on many popular sites
and my experience is that a lot of times web sites just simply
don't work well, or work at all with Firefox. I'm pretty
frustrated with this experience as well because I had to explain
to my grandma why some sites she visits requires opening another
browser, and had to spend 3-4 hours explaining what the browser
was. In short, FUCK the people who don't use Firefox as their
base web development site, and secondly, FUCK FIREFOX.
\_ I filled out my taxes with TurboTax for the web using Firefox on
OS X. Already received my federal and state refunds. No
complaints. -dans |
| 2006/3/17-20 [Computer/SW, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42294 Activity:nil |
3/17 Is there any way to upload a file that contains a comma using curl?
curl uses commas to denote multiple files, so I can't figure out how to
turn this feature off or change the file separator character...
\_ Try escaping the comma; use %2C. -tom |
| 2006/3/10-13 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42176 Activity:moderate |
3/10 Tivo? Netflix? Watching Live TV? Playing Computer Games?
Using the Computer/Internet? (Where do you spend more of your time?)
\_ sport hunting bums in the BART tube
\_ I took this in the British sense at first given the use of
'tube'. It was far more clever that way.
\_ Total time (including work), #1 is using the computer.
Measuring just free time, #1 is "outside." -tom
\_ Including work, mostly in front of a computer. For leisure,
mostly talking to friends, some reading, some outdoors, little
TV. --erikred
\_ #1 computer, #2 tivo, #3 cooking, #4 netflix, #5 hiking --dbushong
\_ #1 computer, #2 church, #3 investing/trading, #4 basketball
\_ #1 slave work for my gf, #2 church, #3 investing/trading #4 computer,
#5 calling my mom, #6 basketball --christian socialist
\_ Why do you put up with #1? For the sex?
\_ Of course not. The Bible clearly says adultery is punishable
by stoning. -!pp
\_
\_ Why do you put up with #2? For the sex?
\_ Why do you put up with #5? For the sex?
\_ Why do you put up with #6?
\_ My new daughter, playing computer games, Cal sports. -ausman
\_ Girlfriend, playing Forgotten Hope online, jogging, playing with
telescope, going to restaurants, travel. -John |
| 2006/3/6-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:42113 Activity:nil |
3/6 I've discovered a cool feature in Firefox!!! Ok so I'm like a year
behind everyone else but it's still a cool feature. If you want to
tweak and customize your tab setting, first enable tab features
by editting your user.js or pref.js file in your Mozilla directory,
then add the following line:
user_pref("browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs", true);
Restart Firefox, then go to Tools > Options... (Edit > Preferences...
under Linux and Mac OS X), select Advanced and click on Tabbed
Browsing. The following options should be visible:
-Force links that open new windows to open in:
-the same tab/window as the link
-a new tab
Go Firefox!!!
\_ Don't bother editing prefs.js by hand; use about:config --dbushong
\_ which parameter to tweak?
\_ you start typing the one you want to tweak (if you were
editing prefs.js you'd need to know this anyway) and it shows
you which are available. If it's not in the list, it doesn't
do anything in the version you have.
\_ 1.5 has the option enabled by default I think so you don't
need to edit user.js. In fact, it is right under
Tools->Options->Tabs
\_ Doesn't that depend on the Tabbrowser Preferences extension?
\_ No, in fact, I uninstalled the extension. 1.5 has the
feature build-in by default. |
| 2006/2/24-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41998 Activity:nil |
2/24 What's the best way to transfer your Firefox bookmarks from
one computer to another (home->work during the day, then
work->home at night time) over and over again?
\_ cron+scp/rsync?
\_ just use http://del.icio.us or something like it, then make a
Firefox Live Bookmark out of the RSS feed of the tags. It'll be
one extra click to go to bookmarks, but if you have a lot at least
they'll be well organized. I also have a cron job to back up the
bookmarks using their XML dump of it so if they go "poof" I haven't
lost all my bookmarks. (Though this seems unlikely now that they're
Yahoo!) --dbushong
\_ I keep my bookmarks in subversion and then sync them whenever
I change them.
\_ doesn't moz/ff have a "remote profile" settings http/ftp/ldap? |
| 2006/2/15-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41865 Activity:nil |
2/15 [The hell with you and your refusal to shorten URLs to fit 80col.]
\_ It wasn't my URL but I'm curious: why do you care?
\_ I like following URLs on motd, but I hate pasting them back
together when they overflow the line.
\_ Ok I can see that, but how does deleting them help?
\_ helps in improving future behaviour.
\_ Here on motd, the principle of free speech doesn't hold
a candle to convenience.
\_ On one hand I agree that pasting URLs together when they
overflow the line is a PITA. On the other hand, I dislike
that URL shorteners obfuscate the source of URLs. Hmm... I
think that when I have a spare moment I'm going to build a
better url shortener which helps solve the obfuscation
problem. PS Sign your posts -dans
\_ This has been suggested many times, but leads to <gasp>
urls that aren't actually that short. I like http://csua.org
and http://tinyurl.com ones because they're as fast to type as to
paste: i just type "u abc" into my browser and I have
a little shortcut thingy and voila!
\_ Heh. I had something a little slicker in mind. It
involves ajax cleverness when shortened urls are posted
in web fora, and possibly a Mozilla plugin for places
like the motd. Unfortunately, the Mozilla plugin still
creates a chicken/egg problem that I need to solve for
this to be truly slick. -dans
\_ http://lookleap.com might be useful. Resulting URLs
look like this: http://lookleap.com/maps.google.com/a5 |
| 2006/2/10-13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41801 Activity:nil |
2/10 Holy crap! I'm using Opera 9 TP 2. I hovered over one of my tabs, and
a mini-preview of the page for that tap popped up. Neato!
\_ As far as I could tell Opera doesn't support FF style extensions or
anything similar. I'm addicted to extensions now. Nothing else
matters.
\_ http://userjs.org
\_ Opera UserJS == Firefox Greasemonkey, AFAICT. That's just
one extension. You can do _way_ more with Extensions than
what you can do with just UserJS.
\_ For example, see http://codecamp.de/pwdhashforopera
\_ http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview |
| 2006/2/10-13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41793 Activity:moderate |
2/10 "Spyware Barely Touches Firefox"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060210/tc_cmp/179102616
"Internet Explorer users can be as much as 21 times more likely to end
up with a spyware-infected PC than people who go online with Mozilla's
Firefox browser, academic researchers from Microsoft's backyard said in
a recently published paper."
\_ I hate made up statistics like "21x more likely to!!!!". There are
many reasons for this such as the generally higher clue level of
people who know enough to make an active decision to install/use an
alternative browser (or have someone smart set it up for them) which
means the machine is better maintained in general and the user is
less likely to download and run freeporn.exe from spywarez.ru. Yes,
IE is a piece of crap, but FF has it's own problems and there are
many ways for shitware to get on a box.
\_ yes, but. working in IT, I've never had a problem with spyware
on machines running firefox as the main browser. with IE
sometimes you don't have to click the misleading message to
accidentally hose your system... sometimes you just need to go
to the wrong site in your daily google searching. no matter
what problems FF has, it doesn't change the fact that IE is a
total piece of crap.
\_ Absolutely true. But as I said above, the browser isn't the
only way and clue level is just as important, if not more so.
The loud mouthed sales moron always had porn popups but the
equally clueless marketing chick didn't because she didn't
run freeporn.exe every morning. User behavior.
\_ it's the same users going to the same sites. It's just
that with FF I haven't had to spend as much time fixing
hosed computers. -pp
\_ Did you actually read the article? The study was not a survey of
infection rates from internet ussers out there who install or
don't install browsers themselves. The IE and Fx test machines
were set up by the same two professors and their two grad
students.
\_ A survey of infection rates would be more useful than 2 bored
grad students surfing the net. At least then we could pretend
it was an "all else being equal" and "we used a large enough
sample size to..." argument.
\_ They didn't surf the net themselves. They used web
crawlers to do the surfing. (So they didn't get to enjoy
the porn while doing official work.)
\_ The result is pretty clear; if you go to the same set of
randomly-selected sites with unpatched IE and unpatched
Firefox, you're much more likely to get spyware on the
IE machine. If you want to do a different study, do it.
-tom
\_ "with unpatch IE and unpatched Firefox". What a
useless study. How about a study of what happens to
unpatched Linux machines on the net? Equally useless.
\_ A lot less happens to unpatched Linux machines than
unpatched Windows machines; that's the point.
(Typically an unpatched Windows machine will be
broken into within minutes of being connected to
the net, if it's not behind a firewall. -tom
\_ And it will take about 10 minutes more for the
Linux box. There's no point. Anyone who runs
an unpatched anything will very quickly get hit
with something nasty and if by some miracle they
don't, they'll run freeporndialer.exe. It does
not matter in the least if it takes 5 minutes or
15 minutes for your box to get owned if you're
unpatched. A study that might have been useful
would have been patched boxes, but I suspect when
they tried that first, very little happened. I'm
highly suspicious of this 'study' of unpatched
boxes.
\_ All MS apologists are suspicious of studies
which show that Windows is a security risk.
Anyone who actually has to manage different
platforms already knows it. -tom
\_ Yep, when you're against the wall and have
nothing left to support your argument,
resort to personal attack and smear. Good
call.
\_ You have provided absolutely nothing to
support your argument. -tom
\_ The sky is still blue, academic
tests of unpatched boxes is still
stupid and you resort to personal
attack when cornered. I'm glad the
world remains predictable. BTW, how
does it feel to always be right? I
always wondered what it was like to
be perfect. Please tell us.
\_ sounds like you're the one
resorting to personal attack. -tom
\_ Tell us about perfection and
always being right, tom.
\_ Step back, man. AFAICT, tom
has been pretty technical and
succinct in expressing his
opinions. Perhaps you should
reread the thread again, man.
reread the thread again.
Could you elucidate to a
clueless like me what exactly
it was that was said that
that upset you so much? -mice
it was that was said which
upset you so much? -mice
was said which upset you
so much? -mice
opinions. Could you elucidate
to a clueless like me what
was said which upset you so
much? -mice |
| 2006/2/2-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41669 Activity:kinda low |
2/2 Is it just my imagination, or it seems like web sites these days
are taking longer and longer to load? I used to be able to load
http://weather.com in less than 1 second, now it takes 5-6 seconds.
Ditto with http://cnn.com or other common sites.
\_ Ditto with Yahoo Maps.
\_ one word: flash
\_ related, the flashblock extension for FF/Mozilla is wonderful
\_ yeah, it's great, but i wish there were a way to say
"load all movies on this page" or quickly "add this site to
allow list"
\_ Actually, it doesn't keep flash from downloading; you'll note
sometimes you see the flash for a brief moment before the
(i assume) flashblock onload takes over and replaces it with
the blank play thing. It just keeps you from seeing it.
\_ Sites these days expect a larger chunk of users to have broadband.
\_ Sigh. I switched to DSL in order to load simple pages faster,
not to deal with pages becoming complicated.
\_ All that javascript and the style sheets that make the weeb purty
take a long time to d/l.
\_ good stylesheets should make the pages load faster. Probably
does have something to do with the common use of rollovers and
the fact that most sites don't have much time spent on
optimization/valid html. |
| 2006/2/1-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41645 Activity:low |
2/1 Cool, I hated the ClearType-looking fonts of IE7 beta 2 that you can't
seem to turn off, but it looks like a related feature is that page
zooms are much more natural. Now theoretically my mom can read those
tiny Chinese characters a little better.
\_ clear type or anti-alias font is not very good for small fonts.
\_ So what's cool about IE7 vs. FF?
\_ Why do you care about IE7?
\_ "page zooms are much more natural" (good)
"ClearType-looking fonts [can't turn off]" (bad)
I'm also interested in any good things in IE7 being copied in FF
besides the first being good for mymom, I'm interested in any
good things in IE7 being copied in FF
\_ Perhaps I was unclear. I use Firefox and Opera instead of IE.
Why would you expose yourself to all the IE problems by using
it?
\_ It's for mymom. She reads a lot of Chinese web sites.
Firefox is poor at rendering zoomed in Chinese web sites.
I also had her on Firefox initially but it had problems
with IE-limited web pages (don't ask me, they just had
problems with FF), so she's using that anyway.
\_ Have you tried Opera? It's got the best zooming IMO.
\_ not for a year or so, but I'll try it. it's
really the Chinese character rendering.
really the Chinese character rendering while not
screwing up the page layout.
\_ I am sorry, but that is not the issue. I read Chinese
site everyday, and I found that setting minimum font
size does most of the trick.. and I set minimum font
size to 18 due to my poor eye sight.
\_ Mymom uses a 17" LCD (she won't accept a bigger one
because the 17" one was a joint gift from the
children). Anyway, I set the minimum font size
to 32 and compared FF to IE7, and IE7 wins IMO ...
that means I'm probably gonna install that for her.
\_ What is "page zoom"?
\_ Font size smaller / bigger, but in IE7, I think it uses
vector scaling or something like that, AND it also zooms
the images appropriately, which is something I forgot to
mention.
\_ Magnifying the whole page, including images and fonts, by an
arbitrary percentage and it all "just works". Before this
feature was introduced, I think you could only do font size
bigger/smaller for IE and FF, though it sounds like Opera zooming
is good. Yeah, just googled, Opera has it, but not FF (yet):
http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/23555
Okay, googling further there's an FF extension in beta:
http://www.memb.jp/~deq/mozilla/pagezoom
\_ The browser on <DEAD>MyTurn.com<DEAD>'s Global PC had this feature six
years ago. (Yeah the company went under.)
\_ Okay, I found out where to turn off the ClearType. It's yet
another option in Tools -> Options -> Advanced. -op
\_ I would urge you move your mom to Firefox for security reason.
IE and its ActiveX plugins is too insecure for average-joe to
use it. |
| 2006/1/31-2/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:41626 Activity:nil |
1/31 IE7 Beta 2 is now available:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/ie7betaredirect.mspx
\_ w00t w00t - jvarga
\_ they stole that tabbed browsing stuff from AOL's web browser |
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| 2006/1/31-2/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41615 Activity:nil |
1/31 Anyone else have problem with Firefox hogging up the machine when it
wakes up from stand-by mode? I can reproduce this problem consistently.
\_ STF Motd. Lazy fucks these days:
http://csua.com/?entry=41212
\_ Which version? Which OS?
\_ No, but I have problem with Fx eating up >100MB virtual memory even
after I close all the windows and tabs except one for http://www.yahoo.com
Version 1.5, running on XP.
\_ Confirmed... I've seen this a couple times. I've also had the FF
process freeze in the background.
\_ Wake-up or not, some sites will cause it to hog CPU. I suspect
Flash or badly-written JavaScript.
\_ Are you running Gmail all day?
\_ Yes, but that's not the problem. -pp, !op
\_ Yes I have the problem. Just learn to exit firefox before you go
to standby. |
| 2006/1/12-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW] UID:41364 Activity:nil |
1/12 What's a good source on the web for background checks including
criminal, credit, general info, etc?
\_ http://intelius.net |
| 2005/12/15-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41036 Activity:nil |
12/15 Has anyone tried the Google Safe Browsing Firefox extension?
Does it work well?
http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/safebrowsing
\_ Does it serve the same purpose as other programs like, say, AdWatch?
\_ Are you astroturfing?
\_ I don't know how well it works, but how the heck does it install
itself without Firefox warning that http://google.com isn't in its
list of trusted domains? |
| 2005/12/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:41027 Activity:moderate |
12/14 Panexa is the right choice, the safe choice. The only choice.
http://www.panexa.com -John
\_ http://blog.stayfreemagazine.org/2005/11/cafepress_copyr.html
\_ Fuck Cafepress. I've been censored there with no warning
or explanation also, and I would not give them my business
again even for something that would clearly not be censored.
Fuck them straight in the ear.
\_ Get a life. -tom
\_ Get a life. -motd
\_ Get a life.
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\_ DAMN!
Get a life. _/
Get a life. _/ |
| 2005/12/13-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:41002 Activity:nil |
12/13 Oedipus Lives!
http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20051209/113414040002.html
\_ Uh huh. Weekly World News. |
| 2005/12/11-14 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40964 Activity:kinda low |
12/11 Since the SSH change, I've been getting the following error
message in Outlook Express: "The certificate's CN name does not
match the passed value". How can I get rid of this message? I'm
guessing it has to do with the certificate I'm using. I got it from:
<DEAD>soda.csua.berkeley.edu:995<DEAD> It's called "localhost". Do I
need to use a new POP server? Right now I'm using
http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu port 995. Or get a certificate from elsewhere?
\_ ever since the new soda, emacs has been acting up on me.
Anyone have a good default .emacs that allows me to do standard
text editing, like editing motd? Tab doesn't even work anymore;
it's checking for programming(lisp?) statements, I think, and
overriding all standard editing.
\- i find the new emacs a little strange too. the issue isnt so
much as a "good emacs" but solving specific problems.
\_ Looks like an issue with the name of the temp file assigned
by /csua/bin/me: my $motdcurrent = "/tmp/motd.public.c.$>.$$";
\_ That's strange. Ever since the new soda, my emacs works better
than before even though it's the same emacs version. Now the
prompt in my shell buffer is displayed in color, and my commands
in bold. When I do Ctrl-S to search, all the nearby matches are
highlighted. global-font-lock-mode now does color highlighting.
BTW my .emacs file hasn't changed for 12 years. If anyone can
shed light on what's behind these improvements, that'll be great.
--- yuen
\_ New soda is now running emacs 21, that's why.
\_ I thought it was also 21 before the upgrade. No?
\_ A fixed termcap maybe?
\_ The self-signed SSL certs are now fixed. Thanks. You might want
to look into using Mozilla Thunderbird instead of Outlook Express.
\_ Thanks, the error is gone! -op
\- i have noticed some interoperability issues between
older SSL programs and recent SSL applications.
doing a little digging, it looks like there are
some different padding strategies.
\_ I've fixed the self-signed SSL certs, but that might not fix the
message in Outlook Express. Try Mozilla Thunderbird. -brett
\_ The self-signed SSL certs have been fixed. Try Mozilla Thunderbird.
\_ telnetd is broken, can we get telnet turned back on? thanks! |
| 2005/12/7-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40913 Activity:kinda low |
12/7 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10367598 FYI, if you click the MSNBC TV Video (Internet Explorer only), the witness says the crazy dude never said anything. Yes on the crazy, but you just have to take the air marshal people's word on the bomb threat and the reaching into the bag. \_ Remember that Brazilian dude they shot in London who they claimed had been running and jumped over the turnstyles and everything? It was a bunch of crap. He was just sitting there when they shot him. Cops will say anything to cover for other cops. \_ The discrepancy between the official account and witness accounts on the bomb threat is now leading on http://CNN.com. Incidentally, I was the evil person who first wrote about this discrepancy on Wikipedia last night, and also wrote an e-mail then to the WP and NYT. Well, now the lead is "White House backs air marshals", and the witness accounts are only shown when you click through ... but witness discrepancies are only shown when you click through ... but I don't want to get into that.-op |
| 2005/11/30-12/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40782 Activity:nil |
11/30 Firefox 1.5 is out.
\_ And is the same binary as RC3, so you don't need to update it if
you've got the latest RC.
\_ faster, stable, better - nice
\_ Does it use more memory or less compared to 1.0.7? My machine
doesn't have a lot of RAM and I need to run other big apps.
\_ I think it uses a bit more based on my unscientific
comparison. (a couple thousand k more)
\_ Just curious: how many sodans use Opera these days? I just
installed the latest version and it has some pretty interesting
features. Not all websites render nicely, however, compared to
firefox and IE (but that's pretty common when websites don't
test with browser X). |
| 2005/11/4-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:40442 Activity:nil |
11/4 I just received a piece of spam that's the most threatening I've seen
so far:
"<my-email-addr> is a nonprofit/charity contact email address right?
if so...
WE WILL EMAIL YOUR WEB SITE TO 2,500,00 0PT-IN EMAILS FOR [Free]
http://www.broadcastemailservices.org
......"
\_ they represent a threat to the CSUA. squish them. |
| 2005/11/2-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40409 Activity:low |
11/2 Firefox 1.5rc1 is out:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox
\_ Does it use less memory than 1.0.x?
\_ Leakiness seems a bit better, but that's fairly subjective. Page
rendering times and forward/back are buttloads faster. --dbushong
\_ How about comparing to IE-whatever-the-latest-version?
\_ It's _almost_ as fast as IE on really simple pages, and
faster on really complex ones. YMMV. --dbushong
\_ Sigh. I launched 1.0.7 and browsed many pages in separate
tabs and windows. Now I have closed all other tabs and
windows except one that's displaying the http://www.yahoo.com page,
but Task Manager shows that the VM Size is still at 125MB.
\_ I assume you don't use any of the extensions, no? I would *LOVE*
to jump to the newest version, but the general availablity of
extension is not there yet... and i am addicted to some of the
extensions.
\_ I only use AdBlock and Tabbrowser Extensions. AdBlock didn't
require any changes, and the tabbing plugin has a 1.5 version. -gm |
| 2005/10/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:40238 Activity:moderate |
10/23 Guys, I would like to fetch the 'opensolaris' logo from the website
http://www.opensolaris.org
What tools can I use to do that? I am on WiFi. And I want to fetch
the logo just because they are making it hard to do so.
\_ Uh, Firefox? Any other web browser? wget? Why does it matter
that you're using WiFi?
\_ Have you looked at the html source? i wouldn't considered this
as a "class A" dumb question... and etheral doesn't work with
wifi...
\_ so use tcpdump - this doesn't even require that much fu (see
below).
\_ Uh, are we talking about the same Ethereal? You might want
to specify that Ethereal (or any sniffers) on Windows don't
work with wifi, due to ndis. Ethereal on a Real OS works
just fine with wireless cards. Or you could just use
Auditor/Kismet/Wellenreiter. -John
\_ Which one? http://www.opensolaris.org/images/header.png ,
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/open-final3.png or
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/buttons/get_os_ribbon_03.gif ?
Your magic fu is weak. -John
\_ header.png and may I ask how did you do that? When I use
firefox + "view rendered source" extension, all I can see
is an empty <div> that marked as "header" I can fetch all the
graphics, but the header.png was particularly difficult, and
please shed some light. Thanks
\_ Try right-clicking on the image, or just drag it to the
desktop. -tom
\_ Doesn't work. It's loaded by a stylesheet. Look at
source, you'll see /css/screen.css. Load that, and you'll
see all the other css it loads, then just go through those
and look for pngs/jpgs/gifs. -John
\_ Try a Mac. (Worked for me in Firefox). -tom
\_ This is on a Mac, with both Firefox 1.0.7 and Safari.
Dragging it to desktop just saves a link. He means
the orange/blue "opensolaris" logo at the top left
of the page, not the multilanguage one. -John
\_ Here's what I did to get header.png (in Firefox on mac w/ no
extensions)
1. Get page source for http://www.opensolaris.org
2. This says that the style sheet is /css/screen.css and
that you are looking for MastheadLogo
3. Get the page http://www.opensolaris.org/css/screen.css
4. This gives you a list of several style sheets to choose
from: layout.css, presentation.css, &c. As it turns out
MastheadLogo is in presentaion.css, which you should be
able to figure out by fetching each one in turn.
5. Get the page http://www.opensolaris.org/css/presentation.css
6. Look for MastheadLogo, which tells you that the image is
located at ../images/header.png
7. Get the img from
http://www.opensolaris.org/css/../images/header.png OR
http://www.opensolaris.org/images/header.png
I agree w/ John, your FU is VERY WEAK.
\_ LOL at you. You got pwned by the poster below.
\_ Page Info hangs (comes up w/ empty window) for
me on Mac (1.5b2).
\_ come on now, don't be a poor sport.
\_ It works fine in 1.0.7 though. Does safari
have the same feature (other than via view
activity)?
\_ Pshaw. You guys are all weak sauce. Tools | Page Info | Media
in firefox.
\_ Bingo. --Guy who thought this was a dumb question. |
| 2005/10/7-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:40020 Activity:nil |
10/7 Firefox 1.5 Beta 2 is out:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox
\_ For reference, 1.5B1 was the biggest improvement in Mozillae
\_ For reference, 1.5B1 is the biggest improvement in Mozillae
rendering speed I've seen since 0.8. |
| 2005/9/26-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39881 Activity:nil |
9/26 http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6333507-1.html Closer look at the recent studies comparing IE and Firefox security. Summary: For the selected time period (Jan-Jun '05), Firefox had more critical vulnerabilities reported than IE -- but many more of the IE vulnerabilities remain unpatched. Also, expanding the timeframe to start Aug '04 (when Firefox 1.0 came out), IE had more than double the Firefox flaws, and again IE has many more vulnerabilities without a patch (amazing what expanding the range by 5 months can do). Conclusion: Use Firefox 1.0.7 or whatever the newest one is. \_ firefox sucks \_ Wow. So useful. \_ with such a comment, you are required to supply a non-sucky alternative \_ ok.. what about an "I've been Trolled" T-shirt? |
| 2005/9/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39828 Activity:nil 60%like:36841 80%like:39804 |
9/21 FireFox 1.0.7 is out (several security fixes):
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.7.html |
| 2005/9/21-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39804 Activity:nil 80%like:39828 |
9/21 Mozilla 1.0.7 is out (several security fixes):
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.7.html
\_ It's Firefox 1.0.7. |
| 2005/9/16-17 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:39715 Activity:nil |
9/16 How "dangerous" is it to be connecting to the internet via an
"unsecured" network?
\_ depends how secure your computer is.
\- i think if you can turn your computer into an "edge" node
meaning it runs basically no inbound listeners and you
juse use ssh and a browser outbound, probably can be reaonably
secure except for mobile code. of course you can get mobile
code problem even if not connected to the net. you can checksum
your OS on top of that.
\_ if its windows box, you can expect it to be pwnz0red in minutes.
Been there, done that, reinstalled it...
\_ If it's a properly patched Winbox with a decent personal
firewall, no open bluetooth/wifi, and some basic stack
hardening/permissions set, I wouldn't worry. If you're taking
a laptop to blackhat or some other place full of k1dd13z
without backups, that's different. -John |
| 2005/9/12-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39637 Activity:low |
9/12 Can someone please post that one liner to run Firefox with low priority
again? I promise to write it down so the Sodalites can continue to wax
poeticon politics and wipe out other posts.
\_ http://csua.com
\_ http://csua.com/?entry=39627
\_ Poeticons!
\_ Yes, it's "poetic on". But whatever. Thanks kchang. The CPU
still hovers between 08 - 15; is that high or low? The memory
usage is about 29MB, probably b/c of all these plugins I've
loaded. How much does FF consume on your machine?
\_ Umm... reducing the priority of a process will NOT reduce
the amount of resources it requires. It simply lowers
it's ability to aquire those resources from other
programs.
\_ I think Poeticons makes for an awesome band name. Carry on.
\_ On a related note: I don't have the problem with Fx eating up CPU
cycles, but Fx eats up a lot of memory on my XP. After browsing 10
or 20 sites or so, the "VM Size" usually reaches 100MB. I open a
new window to browse every new site, and close the window
afterwards. Isn't Fx supposed to be leaner than IE and Netscape?
\_ Actually, that's the exact same problem I have. I usually open
10 or 20 sites too, leave it open for a long time, and FF's
memory consumption goes 200MB+. I close the tabs eventually, but
the memory doesn't seem to go down much to a bit under 100MB.
Still, it crashes less than IE. -op
\_ Slowly but maturely, Firefox is becoming more and more like
Netscape 4, the zenith of Netscape Corporation's incompetence. |
| 2005/9/11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39627 Activity:nil |
9/10 I hate Firefox. A lot of times it just spins and hogs up the CPU
and your computer gets hosed. Same with acroread. Here is my
solution. I create a batch file that launches Firefox with a
lower priority so you can more easily kill it. My batch file
looks like this:
start "" /D"C:\Program Files\mozilla Firefox" /BELOWNORMAL \
"C:\Program Files\mozilla firefox\firefox.exe" -nosplash
It's one line by the way. The best thing is that acroread also
gets a lower priority too. Yay. |
| 2005/9/9 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39585 Activity:kinda low |
9/9 Dear Park B1 (Firefox 1.5) is out:
\_ "Deer" Park you moron.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox
OpenSSH 4.2 is out as well:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=secure-shell&m=112558710925132&w=2
Portable: http://www.openssh.org/portable.html
OpenBSD: http://www.openssh.org/openbsd.html
\_ fyi, that B1 means Beta 1 (didn't know myself) |
| 2005/9/8-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39577 Activity:nil |
9/8 has anyone ever gotten freebsd to work with
firefox and http://www.comedycentral.com ? - danh
\_ I tried for a while. Haven't tried recently. --scotsman
\_ nevermind i figured it out, i installed firefox
and the mplayer-plugin port, works great. - danh
\_ you just violated Intellectual Property's law, my friend.
welcome to the world of DMCA and American domination. |
| 2005/9/2-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39456 Activity:nil |
9/2 Chinese researcher warns of nude Web chats. http://csua.org/u/d8i \_ Nude motd editing still ok? I hope so! \_ That depends, are you making provacative poses? |
| 2005/8/30-31 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39352 Activity:nil |
8/30 http://video.google.com \_ I have to install a special viewer? \_ And it doesn't work w/ Mozilla, just Firefox & IE. \_ It _is_ a beta... \_ I searched for "Pamela Anderson" and "Paris Hilton". Nothing interesting. \_ Where can I get the Pamela Anderson videos? |
| 2005/8/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39231 Activity:nil |
8/23 I need to setup a kiosk with a mouse and a browser. How do I make
Firefox/Mozilla/whatever display the entire screen, and disable
Windows format, reboot, installation, going off to improper
porn sites, etc for the kiosk? Thanks.
\_ STFW. There are people who have done this before. There is even
a firefox package or something specifically for kiosks. |
| 2005/8/8-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:39040 Activity:nil |
8/8 Mozilla Foundation Announces Creation of Mozilla Corporation
http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=7085 |
| 2005/7/29-31 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38878 Activity:nil |
7/29 wtf is up with FF? I've given the new version a couple of weeks and
it seems as jumpy and prone to crash as IE now.
\_ Wow. Glad that I still haven't upgraded from 1.0.4.
\_ I've upgraded as each new version has come out since around .9.
I haven't noticed any difference in stability for good or bad since
1.0.0 came out on any of several machines.
\_ ditto.
\_ Are you using 1.0.5, cause there is a 1.0.6 now.
\_ works fine for me. maybe another relevant question is wtf is up
with your machine?
\_ As someone else pointed out to me on motd several months ago,
the reason for my FF 1.0.x crashes was an extension was buggy.
FF itself runs fine. (The buggy extension in question was an
older version of flashblock that crashed the newer version of FF.)
\_ And there it is. Thanks. I just unloaded all the extensions and
FF now runs the way it used to.
\_ I've heard the latest full Mozilla has lots of problems, too.
\_ It doesn't crash for me, but it seems a bit slower. -ausman |
| 2005/7/21-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38762 Activity:nil |
7/21 http://www.apple.com/trailers Does anyone knows how to download these trailers to my home computer? \_ 1) mozilla/firefox with mplayer plugin 2) get the html for the page, read the EMBED directives \_ Also, if the URL for the large trailer is: moviexyz_480.mov, the real download is typically moviexyz_m480.mov \_ Easier than that is to do Page Info (Ctrl-I usually) in Moz/FF, then click on the Media tab. It'll show up under type Embed. There's even a "Save As" button, but I've never gotten it to work. --dbushong \_ use curl/wget to d/l the mov file. Then use hexdump/less to look in the file for the actual urls. Then use curl to d/l the real file. |
| 2005/7/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38735 Activity:nil 80%like:38718 |
6/19 Firefox 1.0.6 is out:
\_ Why do people not know that July=7
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.6.html
\_ Yay, Firefox is turning out to be just as broken and bug-ridden
as IE! Woo!
\_ Err.. that seems like a bit of an overstatement.
\_ Is it? Six major patches in as many months, correct?
\_ IE still runs ActiveX.
\_ Have you done any significant programming?
You ought to know how damn hard it is to get all
the bugs (esp. security) out. The FF team is doing
a very good job considering that for many of them
it is not a paying job.
\_ I think the PP was referring to the fact that so many
security holes existed in the first place (rather than
how fast/slow they were fixed), which means Fx was not
more secure than IE after all. (I understand that 1.0.6
is not about security fixes.)
\_ 1.0.x vs 1.0.y is a "major patch"? I don't think so.
\_ When upgrading Firefox for your Windoze clients, do you
just install over the old Firefox; or do you uninstall Firefox
first, then manually delete the leftover C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox directory like the official download site recommends?
\_ What I do for every upgrade is: exit Fx and all other apps, start
Fx, Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Clear All, exit Fx, uninstall
Fx from Control Panel, reboot, delete "C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox", install new Fx. Actually, now that I've learned about
the profile folder, I'll also delete that from now on.
\_ Related question: How do I uninstall all the extensions and
themes when I uninstall Firefox? |
| 2005/7/20 [Science/Space, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38733 Activity:nil |
7/20 Own your own death star sub-woofer:
http://tinyurl.com/c3pos (ebay.co.uk)
\_ Your URI is broken. Try http://csua.org/u/cs7
\_ seems to work for me. anyway full url is:
\_ It failed for me in Opera 8, Firefox 1.0.6, and even IE 6.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789263206&fromMakeTrack=true |
| 2005/7/19-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38718 Activity:low 80%like:38735 |
6/19 Firefox 1.0.6 is out:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.6.html
\_ Yay, Firefox is turning out to be just as broken and bug-ridden
as IE! Woo!
\_ Err.. that seems like a bit of an overstatement.
\_ Is it? Six major patches in as many months, correct?
\_ IE still runs ActiveX.
\_ Have you done any significant programming?
You ought to know how damn hard it is to get all
the bugs (esp. security) out. The FF team is doing
a very good job considering that for many of them
it is not a paying job.
\_ I think the PP was referring to the fact that so many
security holes existed in the first place (rather than
how fast/slow they were fixed), which means Fx was not
more secure than IE after all. (I understand that 1.0.6
is not about security fixes.)
\_ 1.0.x vs 1.0.y is a "major patch"? I don't think so.
\_ Hi guys, when upgrading Firefox for your Windoze clients, do you
just install over the old Firefox, or do you manually uninstall
it and manually delete the leftover C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox
directory like the official download site recommends?
\_ I don't know about broken and bug-ridden, but IE's update
process is much easier than Firefox's. I hate updating my
notebook, my desktop, my girlfriend's notebook/desktop, my
mom's desktop, etc., etc. ... ob yermom joke
\_ When upgrading Firefox for your Windoze clients, do you
just install over the old Firefox; or do you uninstall Firefox
first, then manually delete the leftover C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox directory like the official download site recommends?
\_ What I do for every upgrade is: exit Fx and all other apps, start
Fx, Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Clear All, exit Fx, uninstall
Fx from Control Panel, reboot, delete "C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox", install new Fx.
Firefox", install new Fx. Actually, now that I've learned about
the profile folder, I'll also delete that from now on.
\_ Related question: How do I uninstall all the extensions and
themes when I uninstall Firefox?
\_ Probably Tools -> Extensions -> Uninstall, before you
uninstall Firefox. I don't know, I always though not
uninstalling them was a feature. I do have to re-install
Macromedia Flash every time though. |
| 2005/7/12-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38573 Activity:nil |
7/12 Firefox 1.0.5 is out:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.5.html
So is OS X 10.4.2:
Delta (10.4.1 to 10.4.2):
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1042.html
Combo (10.4.[0-1] to 10.4.2):
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1042combo.html |
| 2005/7/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38513 Activity:nil |
7/10 Taliban Halloween: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=36157 \_ Crashed my browser. \_ Use Firefox! \_ I do. It crashed Firefox three times, the third time giving some crazy error that destroyed all my browser-related data. \_ Use Internet Explorer! |
| 2005/7/6-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38443 Activity:nil |
7/6 Anybody know of an easy way to resize images using mozilla
thunderbird during the process of attaching the imagess to an email?
\_ in WinXP, go to the folder and select the images that you want
to attach. Then right click on them and say "send to email
recipient."
\_ And this will resize automagically?
\_ oh yes, it's magically delicious.
\_ It gives you the option to do that. |
| 2005/6/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:38333 Activity:nil |
6/29 Hey danh! Can you stop posting http://csau.org links to gorey images as responses to threads? Isn't one of the motd rules not being a jerk? \_ Dan's not here, man. \_ 1) Dan hasn't logged on since last night 2) clicking a danh link is done at your own peril \_ I don't post random links to the motd without some description, and I use tinyurl, not http://csua.org, since I have a tinyurl firefox extension. - danh \_ It was probably psb. That's the kind of thing he thinks is clever. -tom \_ Um, so those procs running as 'danh' aren't his? \_ He just logged in. pbbbt. \- Fear of a Danhimal Planet |
| 2005/6/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:38198 Activity:moderate 76%like:38189 |
6/19 Programming Jobs Losing Luster in U.S.
http://tinyurl.com/737b8 (nytimes.com)
\_ Oh darn. You mean those opportunistic little shits who clogged up
all of my project groups in CS classes aren't around anymore? Cry
me a fucking river.
\_ is there a CSUA password?
\_ No, some dumbass disabled it. Just use http://bugmenot.com.
\_ Just checked out http://bugmenot.com. what a great site!
\_ If you are using firefox there is a nice bugmenot
plugin:
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot
\_ err... if you think of it, programming jobs *ARE* manufacturing
jobs... manufacturing of software, that is.
\_ Some computer jobs could be classified as manufacturing
(ex. build/release engineering) but stuff like actual
design of new software products and development is more
like classical engineering work than manufacturing jobs.
\_ just like design of new consumer electronics and other
traditional products are done in USA, and manufacturing
is done somewhere else.
\_ If asian countries can do better at software and engineering,
they can also do better at other things. What will the US
be left with? More than half the new jobs created are related
to real estate. Besides that, what else? Scientists, lots
of accountants, MBAs? Service jobs are being outsourced too,
and pay tend to be low, and those won't help in balancing the
trade deficit. The top people will be making more and more,
while the others will become poorer and poorer. "Learn foreign
language and become cross-cultural managers"? huh? Once
language and become cross-cultural managers"? snicker. Once
everything moves to asia, they don't need no stupid cross-
cultural managers from the US. I find it a little funny that
some people seem to think that we can just let asians do
the software and engineering work, and we can just be their
managers.
\_ What's gonna happen? Possibly, the US will continue hemorrhaging
those jobs until the wage differrentials between US and East Asia
are not so wide as they are now. Another possibility is to come
up with new types of products and jobs to replace them.
\_ America has thrived because it's able to invent new things
that have never been done. Look at all the cool things that
came from America: aeronautics, automobile, consumer
electronics, DRAM, LCD, GPS, etc. At first America has
the lead on these things, but in a matter of 5-10 years,
foreigners find ways to perfect techniques and out produce
better automobiles, TVs, stereos, LCDs, DRAM, and other
common things. Go to Fry's or Best Buy... how many products
are really made in the US? My point is America has never
really been good at perfecting existing products. They invent
something new, and move on to something else. The way I see
software and hardware development is that it's maturing, and
a lot of complexities are broken down in such a way that SW
dev is more and more like designing automobile and consumer
electronics. Despite what we know about OO, scalability,
reliability, usability, QA, verification, and other things
that complacent Americans think they're the only people who
excel at, it's just a matter of time before Indians and
Chinese really understand computer science, and catch up.
\_ The assumption is that America can out invent the
Chinese and Indians. The thing is, the Chinese
and Indians ain't bad historically at inventions
(compared with say the Japanese), but just haven't had
the opportunity (wars, poverty, easier to just copy
instead of invent when you are behind) to lead and
invent. Once they have lots of engineers doing leading
edge work, they will become very competitive with
inventing new things. The other thing is that with
internet and globalization and how fast information
travels, the benefit you get by being the inventor has
been reduced.
\- Some years ago on the cover of the IEEE Spectrum there
was a pictures of the Pentium design team. That should
tell you something about the Chinese and Indians as
ethnicities vs. nations. See also winners of programming
olympiad type stuff.
\_ I am thinking more in terms of culture / nation
and not race / ethnicity.
\_ The advantage America has is one of numbers. We have
so few people and so much resources that large numbers
of creative minds can simply sit around and tinker w/
things until they make something new.
It is not so in Asia (my experience is w/ India, but
China is the same from what I'm told). In Asia there
are a million people competing for every single dead
end job that is out there. If you just want to live
you have to stay w/in the system. This societal setup
does not allow for the freedom to invent new things
b/c if you sit around wasting time tinkering your
kids end up starving to death.
\- The US universites benefitted from the Oxbridge
braindrain. They got some big names who were paid
ass there and were picked up here. On the other hand
some junior faculty and grad student types I have
known seem to feel kind of threatened by russians
and chinese people who are way better at math than
they are ... these people are not mathematicians but
in related disciplines like stat, finance, econ etc.
People losing out to competition are not happy.
But the structural metaphor isnt outsourcing but a
raising of the bar in a field like applied stat.
\_ "the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or
values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying
organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact,
non-Westerners never do."
\_ Where's this from?
cultural managers from the US.
\_ Bet they said this about the huns or the Ottomans as well.
\_ Or the Mongols. |
| 2005/6/9-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38057 Activity:nil |
6/8 IE gets tabbed browsing:
http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3511336
\_ ooooold news
\_ yaaay! I'm switching back. I hate incompatible Firefox shit.
\_ Yeah, Firefox just isn't compatible with ANY of my spy ware.
\_ And I hate that Firefox doesn't display all those lovely Your-
Computer-Has-Been-Infected pop-ups too. |
| 2005/6/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38036 Activity:low |
6/8 Some nice plugins for Firefox:
Spelling Checker for text boxes:
http://spellbound.sourceforge.net
Bookmark Synchronizer:
link:tinyurl.com/9527h
\_ unfortunately, it doesn't yet support SFTP, so setting it
up reasonably is a pain in the butt. -tom
BugMeNot password lookup:
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot
\_ also,
Session Saver: (save all open tabs when you want or on crash)
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=166
\_ This one caused no end of crashes for me which made it sort of
a net loss.
\_ This plugin is concerned with its job security. |
| 2005/6/7-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:38005 Activity:nil |
6/7 Is there a way to run more than one instance, at the same
time, of Mozilla Firefox in Windows? When I try to run
an instance using a different profile, a new window running
under the old profile is spawned. - danh
\_ http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile - gerald
\_ Doesn't allow them AT THE SAME TIME. -not danh
\_ I haven't tried this, but this turned up by searching Google for
"Firefox multiple simultaneous profiles":
http://www.techzonez.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-14218.html
\_ Hey cool. This works. Thanks. -not danh
Oh awesome. This also works for thunderbird.
\_ wow, thanks motd! - danh |
| 2005/5/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:37707 Activity:moderate |
5/16 I'm looking for software (free or shareware) on windows that can help
me manage information found on the web. Usually I find some useful
info and if I forget to bookmark it or write down the address
somewhere else, it'll take me hours to find it again one month later.
Also bookmarking is not really scalable. I can't write my own notes
etc. There has got to be an easier way to classify and take notes and
store links (or save HTML pages locally) in an indexable and
searchable manner. Thanks.
\_ Well, firstly I would agree that bookmarks could use some
improvement. But I think you can use normal Firefox bookmarks to
sort of do this. You can open the bookmark manager which is
searchable, and lets you attach a longish description to any item.
What it really needs is a one-button "bookmark this" which includes
the description field. Basically a UI issue. Actually, I just
tried this and noticed the search function doesn't look at
description text. What a POS.
\_ just create subfolders in your bookmarks
\_ What we need is kchang's auto classification motd tool for
firefox!! We just bookmark a page and based on content, it
gets classified under a particular category! You should be
able to get different 'views' of your bookmarks based on
category, date, etc!
\_ Hmmmm, interesting, I will have to spend some time doing more
feasibility study on this and afterwards consider this feature...
\_ I use a plain text file for this.
\_ Not sure about Windows, but at least on OS X some of my
friends use a product called Sticky Brain. I use text
file and a bunch of nested directories. |
| 2005/5/12-13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37647 Activity:nil 66%like:37643 |
5/11 Firefox 1.0.4 out.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.4.html
\_ Sigh, it's looking more like IE -- non-stop never ending updates to
\_ Sigh, it's looking more like IE -- non-stop never-ending updates to
fix security holes.
\_ do you actually use IE?
\_ Only for accessing web pages in my company. Before FF 0.9.3
I used Netscape for everything else.
\_ that's what i thought. even though ff is constantly
putting out security updates, it's still pretty
fundamentally different than IE.
\_ The fundamental difference being the spyware and
adware you don't end up with.
\_ All malware problems will be solved in the
next windows update! ..err.. the next
service pack! ...err.. the next version of
windows... -Microsoft |
| 2005/5/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37643 Activity:nil 66%like:37647 |
5/11 Firefox 1.0.4 out. |
| 2005/5/10-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37611 Activity:nil 80%like:37608 |
5/10 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5700204.html "Mozilla ... advises people to temporarily disable JavaScript." WTF? \_ Micro$oft is behind this. \_ What do you mean WTF? There's a security vulnerability in their software updater. I think disabling "Allow web sites to install software" is also sufficient. \_ Quote updated. |
| 2005/5/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37608 Activity:high 80%like:37611 |
5/10 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5700204.html "Mozilla has changed its update Web service and advises people to temporarily disable JavaScript." WTF? \_ Micro$oft is behind this. \_ What do you mean WTF? There's a security vulnerability in their software updater. I think disabling "Allow web sites to install software" is also sufficient. |
| 2005/5/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37607 Activity:nil |
5/9 I have a problem with FireFox. I have a trackball and one of
the buttons is set to Universal Scroll, where once pressed, I
can scroll the application up/down (without moving to the right
side to click on the scroll bar). I can do this for all the MS
applications, but I can't do it for FireFox. How do I configure
it to have the same behaviour? Cheers.
\_ For me, when printing from http://NYTimes.com, the pdf often shows up only
as one page when the story clearly continues on. I get something
like one page of print and three pages of blanks. |
| 2005/5/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:37537 Activity:moderate |
5/5 I have only owned Macs until getting a cheap pc recently, so I don't
even know what registry is. What book/ resource do you recommend
that will help me become a competent windoze user, starting with
securing it from virus/attacks? tia
\_ get a router for internet access if you havn't done so already,
PC magazine recently had an article on how to secure your PC. At
the hardware level you need a firewall/router, then at the software
level you need anti-virus software, spyware scanner, and firewall.
and finally you should also keep your windows up to date with
windows update.
\_ Don't run programs you don't trust. Macs are not intrinsicly safer
in this respect but far fewer malwares exist for Macs. Also, learn
to recognize what can include executable code. A non-exhaustive
list includes EXE, BAT, COM, SCR, MSI, PIF...
\_ And beware of e-mail attachments with names like
"foobar.jpg.exe".
\_ Windows' default is 'Hide extensions of known file types',
which is really quite dangerous. You can show all file
extensions at Explorer->Tools->Folder Options->View->Advanced
\_ Ah, I always wonder who would fall for "foobar.jpg.exe",
now I know. I always enable extension display, but just
because I like it, not because of security.
\_ Create a normal user account for yourself that's not in the
Administrators or the Power Users group. Use the
Administrator account only to install new software and to
change settings.
\_ I wonder how often people actually do this... On unix
this is a given, but on windows I don't know anyone that
actually do this.
\_ Everyone who cares about security and who understands
the implications of being logged in as admin. all the time
(you don't have to be an uber-geek to see it)
\_ Are you saying I don't care about security and ...? I
always auto-login as Administrator, but then, none of my
Windows boxes can communicate with the outside world. I
do all my "internet" stuff on FreeBSD boxes and iBook.
\_ I started doing this a couple months ago. But now when I log
in as non-admin, I can't see in the Start menu some of the
programs that I installed as admin. So I still have to log in
as admin to run those programs.
\_ I don't. Never had a problem. If I had something nasty on my
PC it could screw me anyway. Just backup your shit. I guess
it might prevent some worm stuff from installing itself if
you're worried about that. So, I guess if you're new to the OS
it might be a prudent move. Too much hassle for me though.
\_ Use Firefox instead of IE as much as possible. That's the #1 thing
that I did when I was a windoze user (I switched to Mac last year)
\_ this is bullshit. i like firefox but yeah. not like firefox is
without bugs.
\_ Why did you get a Windows PC? |
| 2005/4/30-5/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37434 Activity:moderate |
4/30 In Outlook Express I get an error message everytime I check my
CSUA account, although I still get my mail. I am using POP port 995
with SSL. Is there a way I can prevent this message, it's annoying:
"The server you are connected to is using a security certificate that
could not be verified. A certificate chain processed, but terminated
in a root certificate which is not trusted by the trust provider. Do
you want to continue using this server?"
\_ asking Outlook question on csua motd is a bad idea. Any reason
why you want to use Outlook Express at first place?
\_ One (the?) reason to use Outlook as opposed to, say, Mozilla/
T-Bird is that it uses the XP MyStore as opposed to the Netscape
one which has problems with some certs (esp. personal certs with
non-exportable private keys.) I've just gone through this, and
while OpenSSL can deal with a lot of cert-related problems, it's
a bit tough for novice users to get the hang of. And if you're
dealing with multiple mail profiles, including Exchange/MAPI, it
has nicer calendaring/AD integration if you're lazy. -John
\_ We're talking about Outlook Express, not Outlook.
\_ CAPI/MyStore point holds, though. -John
\_ I use it because it's easy to use and comes with XP. Why is
it a bad idea to ask on the motd?
\_ because it's extremely virus prone. from the message, I
assume it's because csua uses a self-signed certificate.
there might be a security setting you can toggle to default
allow self-signed certificates. unfortunately I only know
how to do this on macs.
\_ Thanks for your help, by knowing CSUA uses self-signed
certificates I was able to find the answer on Google.
What you have to do is go to:
<DEAD>soda.csua.berkeley.edu:995<DEAD>
Then, when prompted, you can choose to "View the
Certificate" and import it. After that your Outlook
Express account won't prompt you anymore since it's
stored in the IE database. Hope this helps others.
\_ Thanks! 995 is the SSL POP port. FYI, I was trying to
do this with another mail server using SSL IMAP. I just
needed to browse to <DEAD>my-server:993<DEAD> in Internet
Explorer and do the same thing. (port 993 is the default
SSL IMAP port).
Don't use Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape e-mail, but I
imagine it's the same process but you need to import the
cert using a Mozilla-based browser.
\_ On the contrary, you don't need to deal with such
roundabout nonsense with those.
\_ I urge you give Mozilla Thunderbird a try. It is more intuitive
to use than Outlook Express, IMHO. Further, you are stuck with
the Outlook Express' file format. it's hard to do back up,
restoration, and etc... and it's virus-prone.
\_ For office use, I get huge attachments. Thunderbird needs to
support deleting attachments like Outlook does. Can't say
much for Outlook Express, though, since OE doesn't support it. |
| 2005/4/25-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37348 Activity:nil |
4/25 firefox question: how do you disable the "feature" where if you
type e.g. "microsoft" in the urlbar it automatically goes to
http://www.microsoft.com I hate that.
\_ it doesn't default to http://www.foo.com it defaults to google
search "I'm feeling lucky" button for "foo". -nivra
button "I'm feeling lucky" for "foo". -nivra
\_ Also, I think this is configurable through the keyword.URL
about:config entry.
\_ Ok I tried changing keyword.URL and keyword.enabled and
still get the described microsoft behavior. :(
\_ sounds like a bug. You could always try modifying
your user.js instead of about:config -nivra
http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips#beh_search
\_ It always does that if you hit Ctrl-Enter after typing in a location.
Otherwise I haven't noticed that. It is configurable in full
Mozilla. Lack of all available preferences w/out resorting to the
javascript config is one of the complaints about FF vs. Moz. |
| 2005/4/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:37333 Activity:nil |
4/23 Hello my Mormon brethren, you'll want the following
script + the greasemonkey firefox extension
http://www.arantius.com/article/arantius/clean+language - danh |
| 2005/4/20-22 [Computer/Blog, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37283 Activity:high |
4/20 Question about Internet libel: I have a bitchy pissed-off (ex)friend
who has decided to make it her life's work to get back at me. She
routinely posts crap on her blog about me, but today she actually
posted my full name with her lies. I did some searches on Google
for recent legislation/rulings about Internet libel and found
nothing but opinions about how things should be. Does anyone know
the current state of whether blog postings count as libel? And
additionally, any suggestions on getting her to stop (and change her
recent blog post to not include my name) without having to actually
resort to legal action?
-jvarga
\_ This doesn't answer your question but it's related. A friend of
mine googled his own name, and found some chick's blog talking about
"stalking [my friends full name]" which described her going around
to various places where he works or hangs out to try to stalk him.
Amusing but harmless.
\_ I just googled for your name and couldn't find anything...
\_ The crawlers havn't hit it yet. A friend who routinely monitors
her blog tipped me off to it. The post was made this morning.
- jvarga
\_ What, no link?
\_ There is not really any way to stop someone from doing something
like this, short of legal action. Even if you go to court, all
you can probably get is a monetary judgement. You *can* sue for
libel, but it is expensive. Is this an ex? You are probably
better off just trying to get some emotional distance from this
and think about legal action later, when you are not so heated
about it. -ausman
libel, but it is expensive and time consuming. Is this an ex-gf?
You are probably better off just trying to get some emotional
distance from this and think about what you want to do about it
later, when you are not so upset about it. -ausman
\_ In order to answer this question properly, the motd requires that
you tell the story behind this. Thank you.
\- i think the toughest thing for you to prove will be harm or
damage. if she just says you are an asshole or a "butthead
programmer" that probably wont do it. however, there are
legal claims in the area of privacy and harassment which is
a different matter from defamation. i do not know much about
this other than being aware of this option. that may be more
fruitful. depending on the WEEB site where this is appearing,
there may be non-legal approaches to this. --psb
\_ Yes, I forgot that you can sometimes get postings removed
if they violate an AUP at an ISP. This would just force her
to change venues, though. Sometimes this is enough.
to change ISPs, though. Sometimes this is enough.
\_ Sure, just piss her off some more.
\_ catfight!!
\_ Get over it. If the blog entries continue, they will sound more
and more shrill. Unless the accusations significantly affect your
reputation and you can prove it, it's not worth the time or effort.
That said, have someone, anonymously or not, let the person know
that naming you can be seen as defamation of character which is a
precursor to a possible libel suit. Fear is your pal.
\_ The libel suit is basically not happening. The rules for libel
suits are pretty much the same for blogs/the web as they are for
print. The problem is that proving *material* harm (are the things
she's saying costing you money due to lost job or business
opportunities?) is *very* hard to do. The other test you have to
pass is would an ordinary individual off the street believe the
things this person is saying are true. You can try pursuing this
legally but it is a) expensive and b) 80% likely to fail. Why not
just try talking to your ex-friend/gf/life-pal/whatever and saying
``Hey, knock it off you're being an immature git.'' in so many
words. -dans
\- as i said above, libel is probably not the way to go if it
is personal stuff [as opposed to "he has been fired mutliple
time for incompetence"] but there are other (legal) avenues.
if it is beyond "just talk to her" and contancting isp etc,
i think you are in "real lawyer" land. --psb
\_ I don't have any intention of making this legal, I'm just
trying to find ways to make her go away. The relationship
ended over a month ago and I've gone on with life (I just have
to monitor every so often to play damage control as she tries
to mess with my reputation in Berkeley while I'm out of state)\
but she's done anything but. I just need some way to get it
to mess with my reputation in Berkeley while I'm out of state)
but she's done anything but. I just need some way to get it
through her head that "its over, move the fuck on, stop trying
to destroy my life because you feel hurt and vindictive."
I've already pretty much cut off communication with her but
I'm getting sick of cleaning up all of the crap she's doing to
me back in Berkeley, this just being one very very small part
of the big picture. - jvarga
\_ guess the breakup was anything but amicable
\_ I tend to be fairly laissez faire about this thing.
Unless your ex is really vindicitve AND really socially
adept AND really evil she probably won't do much damage.
Your friends know you, and will be able to smell her
bullshit a mile a way. Unless of course all your friends
were mutual, and you're playing the divide up the friends
game in which case you might want to consider an emergency
trip to Berkeley just to play it safe. -dans
\_ When you play the divide up the friends game, the girl
usually wins. The bar for female's credibility is set
really low compared to yours.
\_ That's inconsistent with my experieince. Are you
really socially inept, or should I just be happy I
don't have friends like yours? -dans
\- you can try to push her over the edge so she becomes
non-functional.
\_ Be the bigger person and rise above it. If someone
asks you about it, you can answer, but I don't think you
need to defend yourself otherwise. Your friends won't need
it and others won't believe you anyway. Avoid going on
a retaliatory smear campaign, if you can help it.
\_ Dude, it's only been a month, give her more time to get
over it. She sounds like a bit off, but maybe you pushed
her. Next time, choose your gf more wisely.
\_ We have just been discussing Defamation in my Torts class. Based
on what we have covered, you might be able to make out a cause of
action for libel against her. I'll ask my Torts prof and get back
to you. Anyway, based on what I know:
Assuming that these statements aren't some sort of public concern
(you are stealing from the univ or some such) and you are not some
sort of public official/figure, you will fall into the "private/
private" category and should be able to get some money or and
injunction/retraction w/o needing to show actual harm (libel
can recover w/o actual damages in most cases). If you can show
knowing falsity or reckless disregard for the truth (NY Times
actual malice) you might even be able to get presumed and
punitive damages.
I think the tricky part will be to show that her statements were
capable of having a defamatory meaning. You will have to show
that the statements were more than hyperbole and that they are
proveably false (opinion is generally not actionable). The tough
part will be in proving that the statements were capable of
lowering your reputation or detering others from associating w/
you or exposed you to hatred, contempt or ridicule.
What might be better than actually going through w/ a suit is
to threaten her w/ one and maybe file a complaint to that end.
You can probably file the complaint yourself in at the ct house
and serve her via certified mail. That should really spook her.
\_ Shows what you know. You can't serve someone in state
simply with certified mail. -williamc
\_ iirc sec Cal Civ Proc Code Sec 415 allows in state
service by mail in lieu of personal service.
\_ and you recalled wrong. If you actually read the code
you still need to attempt to serve in person first and
THEN mail a copy. Look, buddy, I work at a law firm,
we have to go through a process server or through a
3rd party who's over 18 years of age. If the OP's
location is unknown you have to do a due diligence
search and show the court
before appearing. Serving papers in-state can get messy.
Also, you can't just leave the papers in a mailbox when
serving, you usually have to make best-efforts attempts
at contacting the OP someone who can give it to the OP
like a landlord or a relative.
-williamc
\_ You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, this doesn't
usually work with things like this because the OP can
just ignore it and after 20 days you'll have to server
them in person, which is why we never go through this
route and use process servers. -williamc
\_ Okay. I didn't know that. I just remember my civ
pro prof saying that in ca, you could use mail
for in state service but that some states don't
allow mail for in state service. thanks for
the info.
\_ Maybe we should deport you to Canada for saying something
williamc doesn't like....
\_ Well, let's just say that maybe we should deport people
who don't actually read the code carefully to Canada.
Hey, maybe you can get served through registered mail
within the province! -williamc
\_ what law school do you attend?
\_ Just curious...so she is posting things about you on the
Internet, and you are posting things about her on the MOTD...I
don't see much difference really...if she is reading these posts,
she would probably consider it slandering too.
\_ Now there is a stupider than average comment.
\_ It's only slander if it's not true. -tom
\_ what can we say about jvarga's claim that his ex is bitchy
and has made it her life's work to get back at him by lying
about him on her blog?
\_ Generally a statement has to be proveable true/false
to be actionable. The statement that she is 'bitchy' is
probably not actionable b/c it is basically an opinon,
or an insult. Similarly the statement that it is "her
life's work" is also not actionable b/c it is basically
hyperbole and no one would really think that she had
made it her life's work to get jvarga.
Now the statement that she is 'lying' might be actionable
if she is not lying. However, if we assume that jvarga
is telling the truth (probably a safe assumption), then
the statement is not actionable.
\_ actually, some states that still use common law will find
slander even when the statement is true IF the person who
made the statement acted out of ill will (assuming that
there are no 1st amd limits).
\_ Responding to a defamatory comment or asking for information
regarding such comments is considered 'self-help' and is in
generally not considered defamatory on its own. |
| 2005/4/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37254 Activity:nil |
4/19 Firefox 1.0.3 released. Fixes security vulnerabilities.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html |
| 2005/4/15-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37216 Activity:nil |
4/15 Firefox 1.0.3 is out. No release note yet.
\_ Release notes available now. |
| 2005/4/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37063 Activity:nil |
4/4 The old Mozilla has a field in prefs.js where I can change my
cache location. Firefox 1.0.2 doesn't have that field. Where/how can
I change my cache location for Firefox 1.0.2? Thanks.
\_ From the motd on 11/18:
%USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<name>\Cache
Don't know how to change it.
\_ http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips#oth_cache
Add the following in your user.js
user_pref("browser.cache.disk.parent_directory","C:\\Path To Cache");
\_ I believe you can just define the above as a new parameter when
browsing to about:config. I did it, it worked, then I decided
I didn't want custom stuff anymore and deleted the parameter,
which restored the original cache directory.
Don't need double \\'s if you use about:config. |
| 2005/3/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36936 Activity:low |
2/29 This is kind of cool for those who haven't seen it:
http://geogweb.berkeley.edu/GeoImages/QTVR/Berkeley/Central.html
(Campus panoramas) -John
\_ ah fuck, it hanged my firefox. Just what I need.
\_ Works fine under Mozilla. Just a bunch of QT panorama movie
type things. Sorry it didn't work OK for you. -John |
| 2005/3/28-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36923 Activity:low |
3/28 New Doctor Who episodes on you favorite file share
server. Pretty cool and the companion is nice on the eyes.
\_ http://www.piratebay.org of course.
\_ winmx has it. Inerestingly enough; there is a writeup
on the BBC web site both on the series and how fast copies of
the first episode made it around the world via the internet.
Having a cute blonde companion works wonders :-)
\_ What's my favorite file share server?
\_ http://www.piratebay.org of course.
\_ winmx has it. Inerestingly enough; there is a writeup
on the BBC web site both on the series and how fast copies of
the first episode made it around the world via the internet.
Having a cute blonde companion works wonders :-) |
| 2005/3/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36841 Activity:nil 60%like:36408 60%like:39828 |
3/23 Firefox 1.0.2 is out, mostly security fixes:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.2.html
\_ Gee, I just installed 1.0.1 three days ago.
\_ Is it becoming another IE which needs constant patching? |
| 2005/3/22-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36806 Activity:nil |
3/22 In Firefox, after I visit a page that requires a plug-in, it displays
"Additional plugins are required ......" on top with an "Install
Missing Plugins..." button. When I click the button, it says the
missing plugin is Macromedia Flash Player 7. I click "Next" to see
the license, and "Next" to try install. Now it stays at the "Firefox
in installing plugins..." dialg forever. I tried in 1.0 several times
before and now in 1.0.1, and the problem always happens. Any idea?
TIA.
\_ What if you go to macromedia and manually download and install
the plugin?
\_ Hmm. I go to the same page with IE6.0 on the same machine, and
IE can play the animation fine. Does that mean the plugin is
already present on my machine? Are plugins shared between FF and
IE?
IE? -- OP
\_ Okay, I go to macromedia and manually download and install the
plugin, and now it works. Still wondering why clicking
"Install Missing Plugins..." doesn't work. -- OP |
| 2005/3/19-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36770 Activity:low |
3/19 Is there a way to get Mozilla under Windows to use mystore to manage
certificates rather than its own internal cert manager? I have a
DER-encoded client cert that's usable by IE, but I'd like to see
it used by Mozilla (which requires PKCS#12 certs for its own store,
rather than DER or p7b.) -John
\_ It is possible to conver between DER and PKCS#12 (I believe that
\_ It is possible to convert between DER and PKCS#12 (I believe that
OpenSSL will do it if you know the correct incantation). email me
if you go this route and have trouble, it's been a while since I
did it last, but I should be able to figure it out again. -dans
\_I may do this when I get a chance--the problem is that PKCS#7
just contains certs, and #12 can contain certs along with
private keys. You can tag a private key in a PKCS#12 container
to be non-exportable, in which case, good luck under Windows.
There's no way to get Mozilla to use the (otherwise very nice)
MS CAPI directly? -John
\_ Right, the PKCS#12 format containing private keys sounds like
the rub I remember. If memory serves part of the problem was
that the keys *could* be encrypted using a password as a
symmetric key, but were not necessarily the case. I have no
experience with the MS CAPI so I can't speak to its
capabilities. I think when I did the conversion, I only
needed the public certificates and managed to get OpenSSL to
slam a (public) cert into PKCS#12 format with an empty or
garbage private key that was never used. I'm a little slammed
workwise at present, but if I find a spare moment later this
week I'll poke at OpenSSL and get back to you. -dans
\_ That's a very cool trick, I hadn't thought of that. I
will also have a go at it when I have a moment--don't
stress. Apparently something called 'safesign CSP' lets
Mozilla use CAPI but I haven't tried it yet. -John
\_ Cool, let me know how it works out. -dans |
| 2005/3/15-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36696 Activity:low |
3/15 Anyone know of something like spook.el that runs autonomously of
emacs under Windows, and which can be used to append garbage sigs
to Mozilla mail?
\_ get a life.
\_ Go fuck yourself. Next?
\_ Great, now he'll want to marry himself next. Way to go.
\_ I don't think he can legally marry himself -- so I guess
you could say he has the same rights as everyone else. |
| 2005/3/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36613 Activity:nil |
3/10 Is there a newer release of Firefox 1.0.1 that fixes the broken pop-up
blocker? The Firefox site doesn't mention anything about this problem.
I'm still using 1.0. Thanks.
\_ The pop-up blocker works fine in 1.0.1.
\_ Regular pop-up blocking works, but some sites get around it by
making a popup in a seperate layer of the main page, or using a
link-click to create a pop(up|under) and load the next page in
the parent window.
\_ Try http://www.factmonster.com Nice site, and the pop-up blows
Firefox and Google blocking like a stiff wind.
\_ I got no pop-ups from them using Firefox.
\_ I thought someone posted on motd a while ago saying that some
pop-ups were blocked by 1.0 but not 1.0.1. |
| 2005/3/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:36547 Activity:kinda low |
3/4 "Screwdriver had to be taken away suddenly"? Is this one of those
PATRIOT act things where you can't tell us what the hell is going
on?
\_ Since I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, I decided
to put the word "screwdriver" into http://news.google.com. It turns out
there's actually a hell of a lot of mayhem caused by
screwdriver-wielding thugs worldwide. So what *are* you talking
about?
\_ I assume "screwdriver" is a CSUA machine. It's mentioned in
motd.official.
\_ Ok, I figured that out now... I'm still glad I googled
"screwdriver", though. Very amusing.
\_ did it have a link to a story on the kid who died outside
an internet cafe a few years ago after he was stabbed in
the head with a screwdriver?
\_ You should google "skrewdriver." This will lead you to
some of the best of the web.
\_ Is "best of web" poorly done irony? Or are you some
post-post-modern bemused intellectual? I didn't
think UCB admitted white supremecy nutjobs.
\_ Taken down, not away. Our volunteer sysadmins are doing some
work on the machine, and on various other CSUA machines.
How many types of emergencies d'you think might cause this?
Think for a minute..... --PeterM
\_ I was lead to understand it got hacked. |
| 2005/3/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36545 Activity:moderate |
3/6 Hey kchang, what's the deal with kais motd external links defaulting
opening in a new window? Didn't you get the memo that that's
obnoxious and outdated behavior now that all sane browsers allow the
users to have their own pick of same window/new tab/new window?
\_ In case you hadn't noticed, kchang has no clue. He uses <blink>.
-tom
\_ I agree <blink> totally sucks.
\_ ok fine I have no clue. Let's see you do a better job,
Mr. cranky failed barely educated from cal tom holub.
\_ Right click, then select "open in new tab"
Your other option is to use something else.
The sooner you stop whining the sooner you get what you want.
\_ http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips#beh_reuse
This site teaches you how to 1) disable blink 2) force Firefox
open in the same window or another tab. The blink and window
problems are not exclusive to just Kais Motd, you know? Now
get your fucking lazy ass learning something new instead of
bitching about it, dumb fucks.
\_ translation: "my site sucks, and I like it that way"
\_ kchang, your website is a blessing and a boon. Ignore the haters. |
| 2005/3/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36473 Activity:nil |
3/1 How do I make firefox always ask me for download location confirmation?
I am doing a proj where I frequently save files to different folders,
Right now it automatically goes to the default download dir. Thanks!!
\_ How do I login to my computer? Thanks!!
\_ You're an undergrad, right? it's Tools -> Options -> Downloads.
\_ Ops. -pp |
| 2005/2/25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36414 Activity:nil |
2/25 Hey, I got my second FireFox 1.0.1 (WinXP) seg fault within 24 hours.
Can someone with 1.0.1 try this link and tell me if it crashes their
browser?
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453427.0368055557.html
\_ Does it seg fault in 1.0?
\_ 1.0 only crashed once a week or so for me. I'll try to
re-install 1.0.1 given what people wrote ...
\_ No seg fault, but the pop-up blew right past the pop-up blocker.
\_ No seg fault for me despite the nasty popups.
\_ yeah the pop-up stopper is broken, and in fact I've noticed this
for a while. I thought the pop-up stopper was superior over any
other pop-up stoppers. I guessed wrong :(
\_ I run FF 1.0 and LavaSoft Ad-Watch together. FF 1.0 blocked
many more pop-ups than Ad-Watch. I guess I won't switch to
FF 1.0.1 until its problems are cleaned up.
\_ 1.0.1 on OSX also allows this pop-up through, FYI.
\_ Okay, it was crashing because I had the flashblock extension
installed (prevents Macromedia Flash ads from running unless you
click on them). They released a new version of flashblock on
Feb 23 that fixes crashes. Now Firefox + flashblock doesn't crash
with that link. (Yeah, that's the only extension I'm running.) -op |
| 2005/2/24-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36408 Activity:nil 60%like:36841 |
2/24 Firefox 1.0.1 is out. Many security fixes.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases |
| 2005/2/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36130 Activity:moderate |
2/10 Is anyone else having a problem where the NYTimes is constantly
asking you to login again?
\_ Nevermind, Mozilla was rejecting cookies over 365 days. -op |
| 2005/2/7-8 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Compilers, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36090 Activity:moderate |
2/7 http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~kohler/pubs Read the first paper. Not too technical and quite readable. I hope it gets accepted into the prestigious WMCS, C&I conference. \_ That rules. \_ i guess it's nice to know that it's not just me. \_ Heh, ditto that. Maybe Phillip should write up a more in-depth study on the subject? \_ Cute. \_ The log graph on page 10 rocks. \- Did you actually submit that? \_ PROFESSOR Kohler doesn't have a csua account. |
| 2005/2/4-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36067 Activity:kinda low |
2/4 Say I am single and my income is around $25K and I might need to use
education related deductions. Which online e-filing service would be
best to use? (preferably with Mozilla/Firefox support)
\_ I use TurboTax for the web, and it seems to do a serviceable job.
I have no problem using it with either Firefox or Safari. Notably,
it's a good $10 or $20 cheaper if you file before April one. Also,
a number of banking/investment (in my case both Vanguard and BofA)
have cut deals with Intuit that discount the service even further
for their customers. -dans
\_ this year, they redirect you to a web page that says that you're
using an unsupported web browser if you try to login with Mozilla
or Firefox.
\_ Strange, I never received that redirect, but then I've been
going via link from Vanguard and not through the front door
so to speak.
\_ Most e-filing services are free for individuals in your bracket
and some services are free for any income level, all so long as
you get redirected from the IRS's website:
http://www.irs.gov
I tend to use it to shop around for the services I need as you'll
find some don't support the more esoteric forms if you need them.
-gerald |
| 2005/2/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36053 Activity:moderate |
2/2 What is the exact user-agent string I shouold give lynx, wget, curl and
the like to make them indistinguishable from say, MSIE browser running
on a wintel? Googling led me to to things as simple as MSIE or
something with parenthesized list and I am confused. Thanks.
\_ tail -f /var/log/httpd/access.log
\_ somebox% nc -l -p 8888
point your browser to be imitated at <DEAD>somebox:8888<DEAD>
copy the part after "User-Agent: " and use that.
--dbushong |
| 2005/2/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36021 Activity:nil |
2/1 Use lynx, go to jail:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/27/jailed_for_using_a_n.html |
| 2005/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:36004 Activity:kinda low |
1/31 Is there an easy way to wrap text at 72 columns in Mozilla? Thanks!
\_ Do you mean in HTML you're writing for a page or in <textarea> tags
or while viewing source... More details, please.
\_ Sorry--when viewing plain text with no line wraps.
\_ <div style="width: 72em">....</div>
Put the text in the div. This will sort of work, but not great in
a proportional font. |
| 2005/1/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:35971 Activity:moderate |
1/29 How can I convert my IE favorites into an html file that I can
put on my web page? And then how to I make it accessible only
via passwd?
\_ IE has "file -> export favorites" or something. It exports
to bookmark.htm or something. Then read up on htpasswd.
\_ And to answer your other question that somebody overwrote,
the firefox favorites (for windows) are in your profile,
which is in a hidden windows folder C:\Documents and Settings
\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles |
| 2005/1/28-29 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS] UID:35962 Activity:nil |
1/28 Brain destroying animated gif ahead:
http://csua.org/u/arh
\_ I still live! Sinistar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hbrain |
| 2005/1/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:35799 Activity:high Edit_by:auto |
1/19 Is there a commandline interface to kais motd? i.e.
"kais 23431" spits out that motd post, or "-d 2005.1.14"
spits out the motd for that day. Via lynx I guess.
\_ you got your wish, at your CSUA command line, type:
"~kchang/bin/kais 35799" for entry 35799 (THIS ONE)
"~kchang/bin/kais 2day" for past 2 days of entries
"~kchang/bin/kais 2005/1/1" for new year's entries
There are many other commands as well but you need an
account. For a preview of account capabilities you can
look at http://csua.com/?login=1
-kchang
\_ um, I think I'll wait until I can see the source first.
not that I don't trust you or anything...
Dear anal untrusty person, this is the source -------------/
{soda}/home/apollo/kchang/bin> cat kais
#!/bin/sh
lynx --dump 'http://csua.com/?text='$*
\_ oh, ok. nifty. now we can argue back and forth using only
backreferences. since all the politics have already been
discussed, according to popular belief.
suggestion: allow just "1/1" for the date (default to
current year) and allow 1/1/2005. ok thanks.
\_ ok you got it. Now I'm interested in seeing a debate
based on numbers. It'd be interesting if you guys can
reduce all the pointless political arguments and
counter arguments to numberical theorem/axiom/numbers
\_ Do you even know
what any of these
words mean?
\_ he is simply
ridicuing us
and what not. Maybe someone can write a knowledge
base system on it as well. -kchang |
| 2005/1/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:35766 Activity:low |
1/18 Anyone know where Mozilla Thunderbird keeps its cache?
\_ Thunderbird? What cache? Which OS are you talking about also?
\_ need to clean it? get cache cleaner - freeware for windoze. |
| 2005/1/16-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:35740 Activity:moderate |
1/16 Has anyone used the Session Saver extension in Firefox? Someone
told me that it's an extension that lets you save the URL of
all the current tabs so that next time you launch Firefox, it'll
go to all the pages from the previous session. ok thx.
\_ I use it. seems to work sometimes.
\_ sometimes? is it worth installing? new probs?
\_ It just doesn't work 100% of the time. A lot of power failures
and hardware crashes work, and on the whole it's nice to have,
but sometimes I'll start Moz after a crash and it's remembered
some week-old state. <shrugs> -!pp
\_ Just use opera.
\_ you're a moron. -tom
\_ Responding to your own posts again, Tom?
\_ no. I think the idea that you should pay money for a
\_ you are offending Sun Microsystem's employee!
marginal browser because it has some minor feature
enhancement over the free browsers available is
ridiculous. -tom
\_ All software purchases must now be approved by tom.
\_ Opera imap "support" sucks. -John |
| 2005/1/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:35649 Activity:moderate |
1/11 Yawn. Another reason to switch away from IE.
"Yahoo! News - 'Extremely Critical' Flaw Threatens Internet Explorer
Users"
http://csua.org/u/anv
\_ who uses IE anymore?
\_ ~90% of web surfers, sadly.
\_ A lot of intranet web apps are written such that they require IE
to function (ActiveX stuff). The SF Police crime statistics
site requires IE. Design decisions are not always made by smart
people. "Who needs standards when we can standardize on MS!"
\_ That's awesome. The fastest growing crime is identity
theft, and the SF Police crime site require IE. Trying
to boost that stats, are we?
\_ Viruses, crashes, hiring hordes of admins to keep the
rickety systems functional -- Yet Windows just keeps
becoming more popular.
\_ In this sense, Windoze keeps the economy going.
\_ Only in the sense that an inefficient economy is
a good economy. |
| 2005/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:35572 Activity:nil |
1/6 How can I make Mozilla never play background music for any websites? |
| 2004/12/23-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:35424 Activity:nil |
12/23 When I used wget to fetch files form a particular site, it immediately
gave me a 403 forbidden (before it even get to load robots.txt).
I can view the web page using a browser, and I have set the user
agent to be 'Internet Explorer.' So what's wrong?
\_ You probably neglected to set the referer. |
| 2004/12/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:35242 Activity:moderate |
12/9 Okay bored guy, here you go. Here's a really cool bit of web browser
hacking. Works in FireFox. Will only work in IE if you have ActiveX
enabled, but it doesn't use ActiveX. Stupid microsoft just disables
XMLHTTP when ActiveX is disabled.
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&complete=1
\_ Ass. It starts over the word halfway through typing it.
\_ Not for me. Which browser are you using? I'm on Firefox 1.0
\_ Works for me. Which browser are you using? I'm on Firefox 1.0
OSX
\_ Mozilla OS 9, b/c Firefox doesn't support OS 9 |
| 2004/11/22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Recreation/Media] UID:35008 Activity:nil |
11/22 Monkey Shakespeare Simulator
http://user.tninet.se/~ecf599g/aardasnails/java/Monkey/webpages |
| 2004/11/18-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34961 Activity:nil |
11/18 Is there a way to disable the "Additional plugins are required to
display all the media on this page" pop-up in Firefox?
Flash is a dog in Firefox, and I just don't want to install it.
\_ Get a cat
\_ I can't spare the $1000 that a cat costs.
\_ Use The Source Luke! |
| 2004/11/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:34954 Activity:nil |
11/18 Does anyone know where the cache directories in Firefox under NT and XP
are? I can't find it in Help.
\_ %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<name>\Cache
\_ If you want to change it, google. I changed mine yesterday. |
| 2004/11/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34952 Activity:nil |
11/18 What does the "safe mode" in Firefox do? Thx.
\_ I think it runs Firefox with all extensions disabled. |
| 2004/11/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34934 Activity:high |
11/17 http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/16/life.hunting.reut/index.html one fine tech innovation from a Red State. \_ Counting the days until this is used to shoot a person, either by accident or intentionally... \_ The best line in this article is: "We were looking at a beautiful white-tail buck and my friend said 'If you just had a gun for that.' A little light bulb went off in my head," he said. \_ How long before this sort of thing is used in warfare? \_ not sure but I wouldn't mind serving the country via the internet. I'd love to shoot gooks with this. |
| 2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34836 Activity:nil |
11/11 "Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE" Hilarious.
http://csua.org/u/9wy
\_ firewhat?.. Clint Eastwood movie?
\_ why is this funny? History has proven over and over again
that M$ copies its competitors, then takes over the market
either via improvements, or via superior marketting, or
via its superior clout.
\_ Did you read the article? The article is funny, the
headline isn't.
\_ It's via breaking the antitrust law.
\_ And copywright laws.
\_ and getting away with it.
\_ and thennn?
\_ step 3, PROFIT!!! |
| 2004/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34835 Activity:nil |
11/11 NOW THEY GOT ADZ WHICH MOVE AROUND UR SKREEN SO U GOT A
HARDUR TIME CLOS1NG THE ADS,
\_ Philbiff!
\_ "now" implies they didn't before. Use Mozilla/FF and disallow
scripts to move windows. |
| 2004/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34813 Activity:kinda low |
11/10 Now that FF 1.0 is out, has anybody gone back and compared, say,
startup times to older versions (maybe even Phoenix)? Is FF still
a great deal faster than mozilla? I remember using phoenix and
thinking that it was maybe 2x faster for startup, as compared to
mozilla.
\_ I don't know about Mozilla, but startup time for FF 1.0 on OSX
is almost exactly the same as Safari.
\_ I use it on a G3 Macintosh and it seems a lot faster than Mozilla.
\_ It's faster than mozilla, about the same speed or slightly faster
than IE on Windows, depending on how many extensions you run.
\_ I disagree with "faster than IE". I see various situations
where IE works faster. Regular browsing and also some CGI
script stuff we have at work. I still prefer its features
although I never tried one of those IE wrapper/extension
things.
\_ I disagree with your disagreement. FF is slightly faster
than IE for loading up certain pages, especially if you
have stuff like ad filters in place. As for CGI stuff,
I have no idea what type of CGI you're doing, so this is
not a very good comparison. If you have a lot of ActiveX
crap running on your webpage then IE might be faster, but
then who wants a page full of ActiveX.
\_ There are ad filtering shiznits for IE based stuff too.
Actually what I was thinking of wasn't CGI. Just a large
(1.3MB) page of HTML that loads up faster in IE and feels
snappier. It seems to have improved a bit in 1.0 though.
\_ I disagree with your disagreement of his disagreement.
\_ http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/CE.html is one page
that IE is faster with. It's a fairly slow link, but
IE shows more of the page earlier... it's pretty
terrible HTML though, so not much of a test. Didn't
even put his hrefs in quotes.
\_ Tabbed-browsing is super-fast! IE does not have tabbed
browsing unless you install something non-standard on top.
On a mano-a-mano rendering test for an already open browser
window, I would accept that some pages render faster in IE
than FireFox. |
| 2004/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34802 Activity:low 54%like:35422 |
11/10 Which is better: Firefox 1.0 or the browser part in NS 7.2? Thanks.
\_ Just to dredge up old shit, how did Netscape Corp. ever make money?
I remember that you could buy their browser in a box for $50, but
you could also download it for free. So where's the business model?
\_ portal?
\_ But that didn't happen until after they lost the browser war
and got bought out by AOL.
\_ As I recall, the brower was origianally written as a PR
thing for their networking business. When they lost the
browser war, they just went back to what they were doing
before.
\_ They made it selling their server software, duh.
\_ No comparison. FF >> NS.
\_ Having used FF and Mozilla a bit I don't see any major advantages
to FF. However, I'd say Mozilla > FF >> Netscape
\_ do you use tabbed browsing a lot? I do. -FireFox h0z3r
\_ Yes. Moz does tabbed browsing just fine, and even has a
new tab' button on the tab bar opposite the 'close tab' button
\_ Supposedly FF takes fewer CPU cycles and less memory than Mozilla
and NS, both of which are loaded with bloatware. Is that not
what you see?
\_ I definitely appreciate that Mozilla and FF don't have the
annoying 'branding' that NS does, but I don't see any
signifigant CPU or RAM savings with FF over Mozilla.
Mozilla has the advantage of greater stability then FF. |
| 2004/11/9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34776 Activity:high |
11/9 Firefox 1.0 in /csua/tmp
\_ I really hope you are not running graphical web browsers from soda.
\_ It's a .exe file. Can't be for soda.
\_ do you have any idea how slow http://mozilla.org is today?
\_ When Soda is a dual Xeon we will all have graphical
webbrowsers!
\_ Actually, hey... why don't they include a jpg->ASCII
conversion library in lynx? That would be awesome.
\_ Anyone know how do I set cache directory in firefox? It can
be done for Mozilla. I don't see an option in Firefox...
\_ have you tried googling for
set cache directory in firefox
? the answer seems to be in the first link.
\_ I'm running 0.9.3 and I've set it to periodically check for updates.
So far I haven't seen any notification. How often does it check for
updates?
\_ Do a force-check: options->advanced->software updates->check now
\_ Yeah I can do that, but I was just wondering if the periodic
check feature is broken.
\_ I'm a current-version Mozilla user. What would I gain/lose by
switching to firefox? How much lighter in CPU/memory is it? I
find I typically use ~80MB having 10 or so tabs open.
\_ Yeah, I can finally dump my NS 7.1.
\_ Should I wait a month or two for all the major problems to pop up
before I switch to it?
\_ Nah, I have been using the beat for weeks with no problems.
\_ I thought it was just released today. Or is the 1.0 PR the
same as 1.0?
\_ You should wait a couple days if you're using certain extensions
like adblock that haven't had new versions released for this.
\_ Is there a version for Slolaris yet? |
| 2004/11/6-7 [Industry/Startup, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34726 Activity:low |
11/5 Is there somethink like WHOIS for phone numbers? I want to
find out if a particular phone number is mobile or landline.
Is there a way to determine what phone company has it?
\_ http://www.anywho.com/rl.html
You can at least tell if the number is a listed landline.
\_ http://thedirectory.org/pref
This is to tell whether the 3-digit prefix is a mobile or landline.
If it's the latter, provides approx. location. For the former,
it doesn't provide a specific phone company though.
[ bitch. ] |
| 2004/11/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34715 Activity:very high |
11/5 A hefty bounty to the first person to bring me the mutilated, rotting
carcass of the idiot who comes up with or creates those stupid
http://lowermybills.com ads to refinance your home with the buttons for all
the states and the completely unrelated to anything refinancing
background (snake, cellphone, palm tree, etc). A not-as-hefty, but
still substancial bounty to whomever brings me the mutilated body of
the person who makes those stupid IQ-lowering ads pop up on 1 in 5
page views. AARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
\_ er, do we get a bounty for introducing you to the concept of
blocking popups?
\_ Sorry, by "pop-up", I mean "appear". The google toolbar seems
to solve my pop-up issues just fine. I am complaining more of
the stupid Flash ads that are a billion pixels high and animated
and catch your eye as much as you try not to look at them. Those
bloody things make me want to strangle a freshman.
\_ and blocking ads. try the "adblock" firefox plugin, works great.
\_ As above, Firefox has a number of extensions that block this
sort of thing. Adblock, Flashblock, etc. |
| 2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34498 Activity:nil |
11/1 Is there a way to tell firefox to always display the location bar,
even in popups?
\_ Disable pop-ups. |
| 2004/10/29 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34430 Activity:nil |
10/29 Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics:
Even if you win, you're still retarded.
\_ Is that why you're so good at it?
\_ MATT DAMON!
\_ At least some of us know the difference between the internet and
motd.
\_ You're sitting in the lounge or something? |
| 2004/10/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34347 Activity:nil |
10/26 is it possible/difficult to create a new toolbar button for firefox?
I want the "up" button from the google toolbar back.
\_ nevermind I found one.
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/goup |
| 2004/10/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34321 Activity:nil |
10/24 Is there a way to block cookies in Firefox by cookie's name
rather than the originating site? For example, I want to block
cookies named WEBTRENDS_ID cookies regardless which site it is
from. Thanks. |
| 2004/10/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34264 Activity:nil |
10/21 Is there something wrong with sneakemail? I keeping getting bad
request error (speaking plain http to SSL) while trying to sign up
in secure mode with Safari, Mozilla, and lynx. |
| 2004/10/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34215 Activity:high |
10/19 Once FireFox and Thunderbird are released, will the Mozilla
Suite be phased out?
\_ Yes, read the FAQ. Mozilla 2.x will be FireFox/Thunderbird.
\_ Why would they be?
\_ because the suite would seem redundant.
\_ Maintaining two parallel codepaths is a nightmare.
\_ What if you use ChatZilla or Composer?
\_ Might they become stand-alone tools?
\_ When will they be release? I've been using FireFox 0.9.3 for a long
\_ When will they be released? I've been using FireFox 0.9.3 for a long
while.
\_ firefox 1.0 comes out Nov 9. 1.0PR has a lot of features not
found in .9. two that i liked are better popup blocking control
and better "search in page" functionality.
Around 11/9/04, there should be a 1 page NYT fullpage ad. |
| 2004/10/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:34032 Activity:nil |
10/11 Is there anything like MAB (the Mozilla Amazon Browser) for, say,
job sites, or financial information? |
| 2004/10/7-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33975 Activity:kinda low |
10/7 Dozens dead, 100+ injured. 10 floors collapse, hotel on fire.
http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=TBAHITW
\_ What a shitty website. using opera, that page takes me
to a "Web Standards" page explaining what software you
need to view their stupid site. setting opera to
"identify as Mozilla 5.0" the page works fine. I hate
browser sniffing.
\_ Well there are a few legit uses, such as detecting IE so you can
know not to use leet CSS features, or detecting "not IE" so you
can warn people if you have an ActiveX site.
\_ this reminds me of the time when TWA crashed and
I yelled out "TWA crashed! TWA crashed!" and my
co-worker said "Oh my god... how many points did
it drop?"
\_ Yeah, so? Some animals killed some more Jews? This is news?
\_ No, it's Paris' bodyguards who did it. Those Jews stumbled upon
Paris' production crew for her next home video to be "leaked" to
the public, so they have to be killed. |
| 2004/10/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33925 Activity:nil |
10/5 Is there a way to _always_ get Mozilla to open a new tab/window
for links you click on outside of an actual web browser window?
I hate being in the middle of writing something in a form (webmail,
whatever) and getting a mail or document with a link in it, clicking
on it, and having the page replace the one I was on before. This
is under XP.
\_ tabbrowser extensions plug-in lets you specify what opens a new
tab, I've found it very helpful.
\_ If I click a link with the middle mouse button it opens in a new
tab. If you don't have a middle mouse button, I pity you.
\_ i think you should re-read op's post.
\_ Oh, sorry. I'm not on a WinXP system now, but go to
about:config and see browser.tabs.opentabfor.* Might work...
\_ <DEAD>bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172962<DEAD>
which links to an earlier Mozilla bug... pending since 2001!
Gotta love open source. You might be able to use an extension
or some hack. Basically tab browsing looks like a big mess and
requests for features seem to sit around forever with devs
saying it's too hard. Whatever. |
| 2004/9/30-10/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:33851 Activity:nil |
9/30 82% of teenage boys wear cologne. http://csua.org/u/9a2 \_ 38.45% of all statistics are made up on the spot. |
| 2004/9/10-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33466 Activity:nil |
9/10 Is there a way to get mozilla to wrap lines in .txt files?
\_ u talking about in the browser? or email-client? |
| 2004/9/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Recreation/Travel] UID:33294 Activity:very high |
9/2 Hello guys I have a dilemma. I booked Holiday Inn on the internet
and on the day that I checked in they gave me a smoking room. They
didn't have anything else, but I couldn't take the room because of
serious asthma (I ended up going to a nearby B&B place). After talking
to the managers and the corporate HQ they still refused to give me
a refund, I filed the complaint to BBB. BBB returned saying that
they can't help us, and that I should try one of the four choices:
-Small Claims Court Santa Clara County
-State Contractors Board
-Consumer Affairs State of California
-District Attorney of Santa Clara County
Which choice is the best? Thanks,
\_ Go to small claims court. Let us know if you need help.
The rest of you STFU, because you don't know squat about
the statutes involved or basic Tort.
\_ All bow down before the anonymous legal expert!
\_ For the uninitiated: A) You don't know the real facts of
the case. B) You don't know what statutes apply to
the case, C) You don't know if the situation involved
actually violates the rule of law, D) You don't know
in what situations that rule of law should be upheld.
Ergo, you cannot make a summary judgement of whether
or not the OP should or should not receive due
compensation. Therefore, STFU. And yes, I am
qualified to comment on the subject...
\_ if you KNOW you have problems with SMOKE, make sure you
get a NON SMOKING ROOM explicity upon reservation
\_ Why do you hate smokers?? They gave you 1 room, which you chose
not to take. Pay up, chump.
\_ If you just 'requested' a non-smoking room, that's expressing a
preference and it doesn't obligate them to give you one, just like
asking for a window seat on an airplane doesn't entitle you to one.
If you told them you require a NS room when you made the reservation
or they promised one, you have a much better case.
\_ ah, but the internet didn't even give me a choice!!!
\_ sure, blame it on the internet!!!
\_ Tell corporate HQ to "Give me my money back or I'm going to file
an ADA suit with one of the ADA ambulance chasers".
\_ The thing is that while they are required to be accomodating,
you have to give them reasonable notice of your disability by,
say telling them you're asthmatic when you make the reservation.
Cal provides ASL interpreters for lectures, but if a deaf student
doesn't give them warning ahead of time, they're SOL.
\_ hey, if they charged to your credit card. Call your CC company to
dispute it. You can't be charged for services not rendered.
\_ The reason they can charge you for a canceled reservation if
because you could cause them to hold a room for you that could
go to a customer who shows up and pays. If there are lots of
rooms available, a canceled reservation charge is not covering
any actual damages. If there are no other vacancies, as this
sounds like, then be reserving and then canceling, you *did*
cause damages in the form of a reserved but unused room.
\_ credit company said it is my fault for breaking the 24 hour
clause set by Holiday Inn. -op
\_ just think of it as payment for a lesson learned, ok?
\_ for most people, "smoking or not" is just a preference, not
life-threatening choices. It's too bad that it is for you, and you
should be reponsible for getting message acrossed to those who
handles your hotel room.
\_ if you have some reason to need or want a non-smoking room or
other preference, state it to to the hotel. If the hotel can
not or will not cater to your needs or wants, they the hotel
needs to inform you of this in a timely fashion. If you dont
state this to the hotel, tough shit. If the hotel tells you
at the last minute that they can not fulfill your request, that's
bad faith. |
| 2004/8/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33235 Activity:nil |
8/30 http://browsehappy.com/why Tell your friends, and family. |
| 2004/8/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:33198 Activity:nil |
8/28 Has anybody ever used /etc/libmap.conf (FreeBSD) to map .so deps
to a newer/older revision number? It looks like it avoids that
nasty business of adding 30 new symlinks everytime you pkg_add
firefox.
http://www.freebsdchina.org/utils/phpMan.php/man/libmap.conf/5 |
| 2004/8/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33197 Activity:high |
8/28 2 Firefox 0.9 questions: where is the DOM inspector that was
supposedly installed, and how do I kill a javascript that keeps
throwing up popups at me?
\_ I didn't install dom inspector on firefox, but on mozilla,
you can start it under tools > web development. Ctrl-Shift-i
also works.
\_ What platform? My firefox on FreeBSD has DOM Inspector
right in the Tools menu.
\_ Popup blocking is somewhere under the prefs menu |
| 2004/8/20-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Companies/Google] UID:33046 Activity:very high |
8/20 Anybody else troubled by Google's valuation and growth prospects? I
don't think their ad supported revenue model can grow much higher.
When I first started using google I clicked on those links. But after
a few times of not finding what I wanted I stopped clicking on ad
supported links. Same deal with Yahoo. I use yahoo finance everyday.
I've mentally tuned out of the ad banners. I barely see them anymore.
I think when one becomes used to the web site and becomes a power user
of the site, one only looks at the relevant information. The only way
an ad can get my attention is if it appears in the same page and
blocks the text I'm reading. Only using IE do I see those. Google
is the best search engine out there. But if people aren't clicking
on those ad links, they will lose advertisers.
\_ I block ads using the AdBlock Firefox plugin which works pretty
nicely to and often removes even the space where the ad would be.
Ha ha! fuck you, Internet! Google's ads don't bother me but then
I never click them either. Other people must though and re: the guy
below intentionally googling for ads, well I don't buy that much
stuff but it's a case where Google's ad model is the most useful
to me versus any other web site. If I bought more stuff that is.
\_ The quality of Google's searches has dropped dramatically in the
last year similar to what we saw circa 1999 or so. "Best search
engine out there" doesn't mean what it used to. Everything used
to be a front page hit with a few key terms. Now I can punch in
6 or more very specific terms, double quote phrases, etc, and not
find something until 10+ pages deep.
\_ I agree, and it makes me sad. What makes me even sadder is that
this is inherent to how google works. Google made an HTML link
valuable. The market does the rest. -- ilyas
\_ YOUR FU IZ WEAK, MINE 1Z STRONG!
\_ I buy really hard to find expensive stuff fairly frequently, and
I often use google specifically with the intention of clicking
on their targeted ads. I have no idea how much money that
makes google, but I definitely find it useful. It seems to me that
this kind of advertising is very useful for companies that sell
small numbers of really expensive stuff, like microfabrication
equipment.
\_ Part of the problem is that click-through remains the main standard
for evaluating the effectiveness of Internet advertising. With
other forms of visual ads, such as billboards, advertisers can
only assess the outcome of a campaign by its effect on sales.
They don't expect "click-through" because there is no such thing.
Internet advertising often works on the same subconcious level as
a billboard or a television commercial, so why should be it held
to this higher standard? This doesn't necessarily apply to paid
placement of text as it doesn't really penetrate subconciously
the way a strong image can - I guess I'm thinking more of banner
ads, which you refer to.
\_ It isn't a case of "should be". It is a case of "can be" so it
is. As an advertiser you would insist upon using an available
and valuable metric like click throughs.
\_ AdWords advertisers pay per click. The clickthrough
is not the most important metric to them.
\_ If it is measurable, it should be measured. As the paying
customer, the advertiser, why would you not want to see
the available metrics showing the effectiveness of your
ad on that site and pay by that?
\_ Except that the "value" of advertising, at least in the case
of mass market brands, is the subconsious impact of the
advertising image itself. Why do you think SuperBowl ads
are so expensive? Millions of eyes thinking they're ignoring
that Coca-Cola logo in front of them. Your point is more valid
in the case of niche markets.
advertising image itself. Why do you think SuperBowl ads are
so expensive? Millions of eyes thinking they're ignoring
that Coca-Cola logo in front of them. Your point is more
valid in the case of niche markets.
\_ If they could measure it, you know they would and there
would be contracted financial terms based in part on those
measurements. Since they don't have hard numbers, they
spend a lot of money on market research to determine how
effective an ad campaign was. They don't just spend
millions of dollars on an ad and hope for the best.
\_ Gmail + Google Search == The most powerful market research firm
ever. They intend to make money by predicting where you will go
next (past performance is a good indicator of future direction)
and selling that information.
\_ As if you knew. |
| 2004/8/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:33035 Activity:nil |
8/20 Anyone know whether there is a way to get the taskbar icon that
Mozilla under Windows can use to store a session cookie for
authentication to websites (as opposed to keeping a minimized
Mozilla window around, or having Mozilla store paswords) -John |
| 2004/8/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32994 Activity:high |
8/18 Firefox question. The form "submit" button doesn't always work on
firefox since version 0.8 on Windows platform. Same version on
solaris seems to works fine. Anyone experience the same problem?
How to resolve it?
\_ Clint Eastwood's worst movie?
\_ Clint did a lot of bad movies. Firefox wasn't even close to
the worst. Anyway, as usual, read the book. It was way better.
\_ Well, there was that movie where he sings _paint your wagon_
or some such, but, besides that, you would have a hard time
coming up with a worse Clint movie than _firefox_.
\_ Never had any such problems. Did you clear out your profile when
you upgraded? |
| 2004/8/16-17 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32945 Activity:very high |
8/16 Thanks for deleting the one interesting thread, shithead.
\_ ilyas making a fool of himself in public is interesting?
\_ What's your problem? He has his opinions, which you may not
agree with, but he at least rationally backs them up, which is
more than one can say for the motd nukers. -John
\_ Hey, at least you can find comfort in the fact that
your tax dollars aren't paying for ilyas' education...
oh, wait. Damn!
\_ They paid for a large part of yours if you went to Cal. Can
I get my money back for your education?
\_ Seriously, can anyone restore it?
\_ Easily but no because it's old and done.
\_ There are no interesting threads on the motd. -- misha.
\_ Ah, but can you construct a reduction such that any Internet
discussion thread can be transformed into a thread on the motd,
therefore proving that no Internet discussion is interesting?
\_ No. I've seen a few interesting Internet discussions.
None of them were anonymous, though. -- misha.
\_ All of them were anonymous. You have no idea who the hell
anyone is on the internet.
\_ that's ridiculous.
\_ "No one knows you're a dog on the internet". So,
you have somehow solved one of the fundamental
problems of trust and security on the internet:
guaranteed correct identification of remote parties.
Will you start a business with me? We can sell it
within 6 months and retire. What is it you know
that the rest of the security industry doesn't? |
| 2004/8/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32885 Activity:nil |
8/13 To people who use travelocity, how do you change password and sign out
of your account? I can't see it when using safari or mozilla. The
link at their customer page that says change password lead to the home
page. |
| 2004/8/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32856 Activity:high |
8/12 What's the difference between Mozilla and Firefox? Is Mozilla
identical to Firefox plus chat plus e-mail plus other apps? -mgates
\_ Just DOWNLOAD IT ALREADY. Firefox is < 5 megs. I'm sure you can
swing that. Find out what you like, and quit this inane chatter.
It's a web browser, not a lifestyle choice.
\_ http://texturizer.net/firefox/faq.html#q1.3
\_ Thanks! That's what I need.
\_ Mozilla has more features. Firefox is still in beta, it is a
different browser written from the ground up. I use Mozilla
because it has features that FireFox don't have. Eventually
Firefox will catchup to Mozilla in terms of feature, then I'll
switch. I do use IE for windows update.
\_ It is not written from the ground up. Firefox shares a hell
of a lot of code with Mozilla. The main difference is the
front end. |
| 2004/8/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32853 Activity:moderate |
8/12 Nice. I'll have to remember religious questions about browsers the nex
t
time I'm trolling.
\_ And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all
was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed
down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For
the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the
followers of Mammon cowered in horror.
- from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15
\_ At least nobody is defending IE.
\_ IE! IE is the standard!
\_ For crashes, bugs, and popups. I love MS. |
| 2004/8/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32849 Activity:insanely high |
8/12 Why is "tabbed browsing" in Mozilla a good feature. I've always been
able to open new windows in NS or IE by Ctrl-N or right-clicking and
choose "Open in new window".
\_ All your sites stay in the same window. Try opening 20 windows
in IE and then 20 tabs in mozilla. I don't understand why you
would even use NS when it is just the mozilla code with extra bad
and useless advertising crap and minus some of mozilla's better
features. Try it, you'll like it.
\_ Ads come from web pages, not a browser, right?
\_ Mozilla doesn't have a "SHOP" button, right next to the
"STOP" button, unlike IE, so no, wrong in this context.
\_ Also, it's a lot faster to open 20 tabs than 20 windows. And
you can have the tabs loading in the background, whereas
new windows will steal focus from your old one.
\_ I'm using NS 7.1 because it's been out there for a long time
(1yr?) and I thought that means it's more stable and fewer
security holes. Whereas Mozilla keeps on having new releases, so
it seems less stable.
\_ You are sadly misguided. Netscape is basically just a
snapshot of Mozilla at one moment in time, and from that
they put in some "value-added" crap. So you could just get
the release of Mozilla that your Netscape is derived from.
Look on the about page for the build date.
\_ Geez. I'm ditching NS now! Thx.
\_ it's a preference thing. for me, it's cleaner to have all my pages
in one window. wanna minimize everything? you just have to minimize
one window. not everyone needs the feature though.
\_ I use both tabs and multiple windows; each window contains several
tabs with related pages. It's a lot easier to manage than the
10+ windows I'd have open otherwise. -tom
\_ Yes, tabbed browsing is used most by non-degreed government
employees, followed closely by time spent on the wall, time
spent on the motd, then lunch, then smoke break, and somewhere
below clock watching, work.
\_ get a life.
\_ ouch! that was stinging! what a zinger!
\_ It's even better in Opera IMO. Mostly because if you close Opera
(or even if it crashes) when you start again all your pages are
still there.
\_ Opera: $$$. Mozilla: no $$$.
\_ Is there a FireFox extension that emulates this?
\_ crash recovery - http://recall.mozdev.org. I believe there's also
one that autosaves/remembers on start, but I haven't used it
-dwc
\_ Call me when it's no longer an extension.
\_ As if it matters. Why do you care? You want a giant
monolithic piece of crap with everything complied in?
Microsoft has the perfect browser for you!
\_ No, I'm not looking for emacs. Opera for Win32 is a
whopping 3.4 MB download. I hardly call that
monolithic.
\_ And it doesn't have the same feature set as
Mozilla.
\_ Also, an irritation of Mozilla is that when you close a tab, you
get dumped into the rightmost tab. Opera allows you to cycle
through MRU order. Oh, and you can move tabs around easily. And
if you have multiple frames, it's easy to move tabs from one
frame to another.
\_ I like the right tab focus. I just read tabs right to left
and open them in reverse order of interest.
\_ there are a couple nice extensions that allow you to do
things like this in mozilla/firefox as well...
\_ Call me when they're no longer extensions.
\_ Um... the whole POINT is that they're extensions, and
will never be integrated. Make the core product fast,
and let users add the additions that they want...
\_ Great. Will I have to download a plugin to use the
cursor keys to navigate a page up and down? Sorry,
if you have tabbed browsing, you need some ability
to use those tabs effectively. Opera is
light-years ahead of Mozilla on this.
\_ Call me when Opera costs the same as Mozilla.
\_ I navigate with the cursor keys all the time.
\_ Why is that not a plugin?! Those Moz
hypocrites--integrating that as a feature
instead of leaving it as a plugin.
\_ Why is free-as-in-beer not a feature of
Opera? Why do they have to plug-in to my
wallet to get a slightly different version
of tabbed browsing?
\_ I have no problem paying for superior
software. If you're happy with
inferior-but-free-as-in-beer tools,
more power to you.
\_ Superior? Opera is going to make
my life better than Mozilla enough
to pay for it? Which stock market
did you get your money in?
\_ Tab browsing makes it easier to follow threads in mailing lists.
You know that each of the tabs following the current on are
replies in the thread you are reading.
\_ I used to be annoyed by tabs; I liked Ctrl-N a lot. Now I love
tabs and I use Ctrl-T and middle-click all the time. Mainly a new
window opening up is just slower, and the saved start bar real
estate is great.
\_ Seconded. Tabs wierded me out for quite a while, but they really
\_ Seconded. Tabs weirded me out for quite a while, but they really
are quite convenient, for reasons of window managability, screen
real estate, nd background loading. On the rare occasions I want
to compare 2 pages side-by-side, there's still Ctrl-N.
to compare 2 pages side-by-side, there's still Ctrl-N. [spelld]
\_ Is there a way to configure Mozilla to always open links in
a new tab when you click (accidentailly) on a link that would
otherwise open a new window?? I don't always want to hold down
ctrl key when I am pressing the mouse button...
\_ Middle mouse button. It's in the preferences.
\_ Middle button always opens a new tab. I want to
open a new tab only if the link would open a new
window. Kind of override new window with new tab
feature.
\_ check out the tabbrowser extensions
\_ check about:config, browser.tabs.opentabfor.windowopen |
| 2004/8/4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32677 Activity:moderate |
8/4 Other mozilla question, please: I'd like to set up mozilla so that
when I find myself on a korean or japanese webpage it shows the proper
characters, instead of '????????'. I'd still like to have everything
default to english. How do I go about doing this? (Mozilla 1.7.x)
\_ 1. install proper fonts. 2. manually changes encoding via "view"
menu.
\_ If running XP, make sure Control Panel -> Regional setting ->
Languages, select "install files for east asian languages".. |
| 2004/8/4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32676 Activity:high |
8/4 Mozilla 1.7.2 and Firefox 0.9.3 are out (fixes several
security vulnerabilites):
Release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7.2
Download Mozilla: http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x
Download Firefox: http://csua.org/u/8g9
\_ On Windoze, is it more memory hungry than NS7.1? Thx.
\_ On Windoze, are they more memory hungry than NS7.1? Thx.
\_ Firefox? Definitely not. Dunno about communicator.
\_ I can't imagine what would make Netscape use *less* memory than
Mozilla. As far as I can tell, it's Mozilla with extra junk
added.
\_ What junk in NS7.1 doesn't exist in Mozilla? I've never used
any version of Mozilla yet.
\_ NS7.1 is mozilla with AOL ads and a couple odd toolbars.
Basically, check out firefox, you'll probably like it.
\_ use firefox. it is The Way. |
| 2004/8/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32624 Activity:high |
8/3 New Mozilla/Firefox vulnerability (no patch yet):
http://secunia.com/advisories/12188
\_ Proof of concept: http://www.nd.edu/~jsmith30/xul/test/spoof.html |
| 2004/7/27-28 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32514 Activity:nil |
7/27 Does the Mozilla mail client have any kind of macro language?
Currently I use emacs for mail since I really like being able
to customize it and write macros. Thanks.
\_ Yeah, combining macros with email is great.
\_ OUTLOOK IS THE STANDARD! USE VIRUS! |
| 2004/7/27-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32512 Activity:very high |
7/27 Does anyone know a magical mozilla/firefox incantation to disable all
background noise/music in webpages?
\_ stop button
\_ That's no help as the file doesn't play until it has already
loaded. By the time I know I want quiet it's too late.
\_ I browse with the computer muted to prevent this. There may be a
less kludgey method but I was pretty glad when I accidentally ended
up on the "the boss is a cunt" page.
\_ When is 1.0 coming out? The webpage says "July 2004".
\_ July 2004.
\_ use AdBlock extension block a specific file type?
\_ Would that hose me if I intentionally try to download say a MIDI? |
| 2004/7/24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32463 Activity:high |
7/24 Maybe a dumb question: how do you turn off sound effects in Firefox?
It likes to make these annoying boops when the "find as you type"
fails.
\_ eh nm, found it under about:config/accessibility. |
| 2004/7/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32310 Activity:high |
7/15 Is there a way to configure Mozilla to always open links in
a tab instead of a new window, unless I explicitly open it in
a new window?
\_ Are you talking external links? Like from Yahoo IM or something?
If links within mozilla, you can set it to use a new tab with
middle-click --scotsman
\_ firefox has an extension called all-in-one-window or something like
that.
\_ Firefox's Tabbrowser Extensions does it too.
\_ Under Edit-Preferences there's a 'tabbed browsing' thing. -John
\_ I think you meant something else. You need to edit MIME type
and put an arguement after firefox. I'll post it on motd
on Sunday night.
\_ What I meant is, if the web page has a link that will normally open
a new window, have it open in a new tab in mozilla instead. I already
enabled tabbed browsing, and I know I can do the same if I hold the
ctrl key. What I want to know is if there's an automated way to do it
without me having to press a key. myie2 does it.
\_ Middle mouse button. --scotsman |
| 2004/7/14-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS] UID:32269 Activity:high |
7/12 Can anyone give me a good reason why I should update to FF 0.9.X from
0.8? -- ulysses
\_ dont
\_ I think that 0.9.{1,2} has a fix for the frame insertion attack.
\_ I was the guy complaining about it earlier, and I have no real
problems with it. The one thing is that if you turn off the
"allow web sites to install software" option, you won't get any
indication about a failed extension install.
\_ if you are on windoze, then, i can tell you that for some site,
the html form element "submit" no longer works with 0.9x. That is
the only "down" side I found upgrading to 0.9. Other than that,
there isn't much differences really, including the fact that
since 0.7, the "download" screen will crash my firefox, and I
haven't figure out why yet.
\_ Note also that you probably should nuke your old install directory
for the .9 upgrade. I believe they changed things around to
something semi-stable so the 1.0 upgrade goes well. |
| 2004/7/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32253 Activity:very high |
7/12 Are there browsers out there that can change the size of fixed size
fonts? -annoyed guy
\_ firefox + webdev extension
\_ mozilla (control-equals and control-minus)
\_ you can also set the minimum font size. Try that.
\_ Opera's zoom scales the whole page, including images, etc. |
| 2004/7/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32251 Activity:very high |
7/12 In the news...
"Continuing security problems have eroded Internet Explorer's
popularity; the market share for Explorer has dropped by more than a
percentage point from 95.48 percent to 94.42 percent..."
Gee that's gotta hurt! Poor MS.
\_ Although if you read a report that said non IE browsers have gained
20 percent marketshare you'd be pretty impressed.
\_ While it's a tiny change in IE market share it does represent rather
strong growth in Moz and Firefox. You can't expect them to go from
3 to 30% in one quarter, can you?
\_ Didn't IE grow enormously fast in the early days? I remember
back in the days of Netscape 2, IE was comparatively fast
and stable and people downloaded it in droves.
\_ IE3 sucked so much ass. I thought IE4>NS4, but it was debatable.
\_ I don't remember that at all. During the days of NS2 I think
IE was still basically just an extension of Word (Yes, folks
IE started out as an embedded HTML renderer in MS Word). I don't
think IE became really popular until Win98 when it was bundled
(read shackled) into the OS.
\_ Back in the days of NS 2, IE wasn't on the horizon at all.
Most users seemed to use IE only for the purpose of downloading
Netscape. I considered NS3 to be the best web browser at the
time but once NS4 and IE4 came out, it became clear that IE is
better option (on Windows at least, we Unix users were mostly
stuck with NS4 until Mozilla 0.9.x came out)
\_ When NS4 and IE4 were both new, they were roughly the same in
terms of usability, speed, etc. IE5 came out and NS didn't
do jack shit and the people voted for the better product.
\_ I use NS 7.1. Is it considered a Mozilla browser?
\_ It is based on a not so recent version of Mozilla, so yes,
but you should really switch to Mozilla 1.7.1
\_ Possibly off topic, but why is the OSX version of Mozilla
so painfully slow?
\_ OSX is bloated.
\_ Hater. It's also wicked fast on my 15" PB
\_ Mozilla is slow on any platform. Try FireFox.
\_ Is Mozilla 1.7.1 a stable version? Also, I found that
NS 7.1 on NT is much more memory hungry than NS 4.8. Is
Mozilla 1.7.1 even more memory hungry than NS 7.1? Thx.
\_ you guys have forgotten that IE only became popular when it starts
to be bundled with Windows 95. Same for MSN Messanger, only start
to gain market share significantly when it is bundled with XP. |
| 2004/7/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:32244 Activity:high |
7/12 I just upgraded to Firefox .9 on FreeBSD 4 using a binary package,
but it's got a ton of library dependencies on slightly older .so
files. Is there any way I can tell the linker to just "try your
best" and update the links to whatever's available? The only
thing that's ever worked in this case is installing from ports or
while (sane) ln -s libFoo-1.8.so.200 libFoo-1.8.so.201
\_ Dunno about "best try", but you could always do a make world
and portupgrade -a (assuming you installed that from ports.) -John |
| 2004/7/9-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32192 Activity:moderate |
7/8 Oops--massive Mozilla/Firefox flaw:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1621463,00.asp
Guess that's one reason NOT to migrate to Mozilla.
\_ and another reason not to use windows
\_ Does this affect Netscape 6.x/7.x, as it seems they are Mozilla?
If so, does one just apply the patch extension to Netscape 6.x/7.x,
or can/should one download an entirely new version, like
Firefox 0.9.2?
\_ op here, URL http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250180
\_ (replying to myself)
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250180
says the bug affects "Trunk". Netscape 7.x is branched from
Mozilla 1.4 ... so this would imply it has the problem, unless
the Netscape people fixed it themselves a long time ago.
\_ (replying to myself)
I got over my laziness and downloaded a 7.1 just now.
It has the same bug. I applied the official xpi patch
("What Mozilla users should know ...") and it works.
\_ Although technically this is a problem in Windoze, why doesn't
Mozilla test against it, given it is SOOO obvious? Think it as
an malicious bug left by M$, shoulnd't Mozilla be more vigilant?
\_ http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163767
From the above link it looks like the suggestion to secure this
hole was made in 2002, but they got into a long discussion and
after the shell: vulnerability was published a couple days ago,
they finally did a small fix for that.
\_ See? This never would have happened in a safe source product like
IE.
\_ ob The big hole from last week wasn't fully patched, and MS
still officially recommends you turn off JavaScript while it's
being fixed.
\_ That's an entirely different issue and it's only been a
week. The mozilla problem has been public for 2 years and
they decided to ignore it until people outside their nice
warm little cocoon complained about it. Kinda screws up
that whole theory about more eyes = better code when the
hands don't do a thing to fix what the eyes saw. This is
just pure laziness and a huge problem with the "scratch
an itch" concept. I guess no one had an itch for the last
2 years to fix a known hole big enough to throw an
elephant herd through. |
| 2004/7/3-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31154 Activity:moderate |
7/3 Frame Injection Vulnerability:
http://secunia.com/advisories/11978
NOTE: Not just windows. Linux, MacOS X and others are
affected. Only Firefox 0.9 (including rc1) and Mozilla
1.7 are not vulnerable. yaGoodReasonToSwitchToFireFox.
\_ Good reasons to switch to mozilla 1.7. FF is still beta. |
| 2004/6/30-7/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:31094 Activity:nil |
6/30 Gmail Q: I already got my first peice of uncaught spam.
I'm not 100% sure from the subject, though, so I want to open it.
I don't want to read any images from their server (obvi) and I don't
see a config setting for that. Is there one that I have just missed?
\_ gmail doesn't seem to show me images by default anyways.
\_ You can't use lynx or elinks? |
| 2004/6/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31077 Activity:insanely high |
6/30 Does anyone else occasionally have extreme slowdown/crashes when
they load a PDF in FireFox? I've had this problem on several machines
w/ versions 0.7, .8 and .9.
\_ i've been getting crashes in both firefox and ie. must be adobe.
\_ Reader 4 > Reader 5 >> Reader 6
\_ until you get a file that only R6 can read.
\_ I just make it launch reader/preview/gv instead of loading the
plugin; much more reliable. |
| 2004/6/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:31075 Activity:insanely high |
6/30 US Govt. recommends: Use a different web browser.
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878
\_ That's why I use IE for work but Netscape to surf other stuff. |
| 2004/6/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31073 Activity:kinda low |
6/69 Where would one find a good tutorial on writing a mozilla app or
firefox extension?
\_ Isn't the firefox extension api still in a state of flux? Is
that something you want to write for? It would be like being a
programmer who writes to win32.
\_ How is it at all analogous to coding to Win32? Win32 doesn't
change that much, and you're pretty much guaranteed
forward-compatibility.
\_ I'm willing to deal with changes if it's powerful. |
| 2004/6/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31066 Activity:moderate |
6/29 New trojan that steals passwd for banks:
http://tinyurl.com/29krl
\_ Infection is via .chm vulnerability, which is patched using
Windows Update (available since April?), unlike the other thing
from last week, which from last news reports was "defanged" by
closing a specific Russian URL but the underlying vulnerability
remains unpatched. (heck, I could write one serving from soda,
given the existing code sample I have)
\_ U K@n 0wn b0x-n?! UR2 K3\/\/L!@!@!11
\_ Does that affect Netscape on Windows as well? |
| 2004/6/29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31063 Activity:insanely high |
6/29 If you have a girlfriend who does not know much about computers (I mean
basic things like what is a cockie, cache file, how to customize
IE and window etc.), do you teach her yourself or direct her to
some classes in community college or books?
\_ I'll teach her about cockie anytime.
\_ You tell her about the new trojans out for IE and install firefox.
\_ How much does she really want to learn? If she really does want to
learn stuff how good are you are teaching her without being
patronizing or impatient? -aspo
\_ If she wants to get a job with that knowledge, go to community
college. Otherwise I'd teach her myself.
\_ If there's something she wants to do, teach her. If she doesn't
care about doing task X, don't bother to force it on her. My GF
still uses IE. I grimace and say nothing.
\_ I am very good at teaching, and very patient. Is your girl hot?
\_ I am very good at teaching, and very patient. Is your GF hot? |
| 2004/6/25-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:31012 Activity:kinda low |
6/25 Wow, that's neat. Firefox 0.9 doesn't load http://drudgereport.com. (gets stuck loading the ad) Is that a bug or a feature? \_ worked for me then i hit reload now it doesnt work. ff.9 actually, it loaded just took a while. ie took a while as well. \_ Do you have http pipelining enabled? Does it not work at all, or just take a very long time? Finally, are you blocking the ads? I'm trying to reduce a test case; I've seen this on http://cnn.com too. \_ I turned on pipelining via modifying prefs.js, and it still takes ~ 30 seconds to load either way. IE loads drudgereport right away. Apparently the banner ad is slow -- this stalls firefox, but IE renders the rest of the page anyway. The firefox pop-up blocker option on/off does not affect this. \_ The ad server seems not to be up at all. It stalls both mozilla and IE for me. \_ Actually, I was thinking that pipelining was causing the problem (eg, by forcing the page rendering to wait for the img data)... also, about:config >>> prefs.js |
| 2004/6/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:30827 Activity:high |
6/16 In Opera, when I go to the location bar to type in an address, it
won't let me type in anything. Please help.
\_ When was the last time you restarted your computer? Mac or PC,
Opera/Mozilla/IE/Safari or whatever the common fix for browser
weirdness seems to be a good old-fashoned restart.
\_ didn't work.
\_ Ok: OS, platform?
\_ Unistall, reinstall. |
| 2004/6/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30808 Activity:very high 50%like:30694 |
6/15 Firefox 0.9 is out:
http://mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/#download
\_ What's the revision history of the project name?
\_ Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox.
\_ I've read a lot of bitching about the theme, but there really are
some problems with this release. The new extension website isn't
even rendering correctly; I can't get flash or shockwave installed,
and a couple extensions I have installed (UserAgentSwitcher and
BugMeNot) are giving me XUL problems.
BugMeNot) are giving me XUL problems. Also, I can't install ANY
other themes.
Update: I was able to install a theme by downloading the theme to
my desktop and then dragging it onto the theme manager.
I also got flash installed after deleting my profile
& install directory and then reinstalling.
\_ thanks. I'll wait for next release :p
\_ Bitching from people using a pre-1.0 release. The notes made
it really fucking clear that this is a) beta software, b) that
they had changed the system so that a lot of pre 0.9 extensions
and themes won't work until re-written, and c) this is pre-1.0
beta software. Instead of bitching and telling people not to
use it how about you do something useful like submitting a few
nicely worded bug reports? When you walk on the bleeding edge
you'll get burned. If you don't like that, then Microsoft has
an industry standard browser available for free download.
\_ Please simmer- I've been using this since 0.4 and I'm no
stranger to odd upgrade issues. What I meant was merely that
this upgrade has frustrated me more than I expected-- .7 & .8
were *perfect* upgrades, this one has not been. I understand
that this version contains some major updates to the
extension and theme formats, and I wiped my install and
profile directories to accomodate. Just a heads-up.
\_ I think the poster above is reasonable and kind to point out
that .9 may be less stable/usable than .8. I consider this
a public service announcement, not flame-bait.
\_ Everyone using .8 *should* up to .9 and file bug reports.
If you're not then why are you using beta software?
\_ Because I don't have a day to spare right now to hack
on my web browser if it hoses my system in some way...
\_ After reading this post, I decided to be foolish and upgrade as well
\_ I downgraded to 0.9rc1 due to all the problems with 0.9. I think
that you might still be able to grab rc1 from the servers. If anyone
needs it I can probably stick a copy of the macosx dmg in /tmp
(temporarily). |
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