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| 2004/6/11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:30742 Activity:nil |
6/11 A moment of silence, please.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/11/five_years_ago
\_ why is the death of a stupid dot-bomb interesting? |
| 2004/6/9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30694 Activity:high 50%like:30808 |
6/9 Any of you guys try Firefox 0.9 RC1 yet? Stable enough to use?
\_ Using .8. It's ok. |
| 2004/6/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30626 Activity:moderate |
6/5 Fire Fox browser question from new ff user: Mozilla has a 'stay in
memory' fast load option. I can't find it in FF. Does it exist?
Thanks!
\_ Nope. One of the many things I like better about full Moz. The
argument (I believe) is the FF startup is fast enough so you don't
need it... But I like instant, not just faster.
\_ Too bad FF has the stupid feature of paging everything out of
memory if you leave it minimized for too long. Ugh.
\_ Talk to your OS vendor.
\_ Moz on Windows does this too. I've waited 45 seconds+ for
my window to become responsive again, particularly after
playing a movie or running some random java apps. I really
need more memory. |
| 2004/6/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30520 Activity:nil |
6/1 Mozilla firefox: Mozilla has the option to make animated gifs not
animated. I can't see the same option in Mozilla's Firefox. Is it
hidden somewhere? I like using it except for that one thing. The
web is too animated. Thanks!
\_ Try the URL about:config and see if it has the setting there...
\_ image.animation_mode -> none was what I was looking for. Thanks! |
| 2004/5/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30344 Activity:nil |
5/21 How do I configure Mozilla to use outlook when I click on an email
address? It keeps insisting launching it's own mail program!!
\_ it's clearly smarter than you are.
\_ This is one of the big failings of Mozilla. Use Firefox instead.
\_ I looked this up a few months ago. It wasn't worth the trouble.
I got a new job instead. Good luck! |
| 2004/5/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Networking, Computer/Domains] UID:30247 Activity:high |
5/16 SNL Last Night: Why the hell didn't the Olsen twins do a sketch
pointing out how creepy it is that 40-something guys make up their
lead internet fan demographic? Pure comedy gold, I tells ya!
\_ see, this is why I don't watch that show anymore. I have no
idea who or what you're talking about.
\_ their last words were "we're legal in 4 weeks". i think
that's creepy enough.
\_ are you serious? I fell asleep before it ended,
and now I'm glad I am.
\_ yes
\_ I never watch SNL anymore, but now I (30 something)
am sad i missed it. "legal in 4 weeks" rad.
\_ I read a slightly more innocuous reading of that phase on
the internet. They seemed to think that they were
referring to being legal to take over their company.
\_ umm, yeah, sure. I doubt their all that brilliant but
they sure in hell aren't that stupid/naive. Someone in
their Org just decided it was better for them to hold on
to their innocence. Plausible deniablity is enough.
\_ the whole thing was just good bye Jimmy Fallon week.
I watch that show decently often, and all I can bring myself
to say is: "It's like they're not even trying."
\_ Then maybe you can tell me why that stupid show is still on
the air?
\_ Is there anything remotely better to replace it Saturdays
@ 11:30pm?
\_ Umm.. I would hope so. Although I suppose it does
fill in well for that "Loney Drunken Frat-boy on a
Saturday Night" demographic. |
| 2004/5/7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30076 Activity:nil |
5/6 Installed lynx with openssl and now I have the following msg:
"unable to get local issuer certificate"
What's going on? |
| 2004/5/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:30011 Activity:high |
5/4 Has anyone been able to use links (the browser) to view http://nytimes.com? \_ Yes, what seems to be the problem? \_ I can't log in. It's as if it's not accepting cookies-- I put in csuamotd/csuamotd, submit, and it takes me back to the same page. \_ Do you mean lynx? I have no problem. \_ links != lynx: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links |
| 2004/5/2-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29949 Activity:insanely high |
5/1 If the motd is nuked again, the following will restore it (it's a
hidden feature):
lynx -dump 'http://csua.com/?text=2day > /etc/motd.p
ublic
\_ kchang's archive only updates a few times a day, right?
\_ 6 times during peak hours and twice at night. It's really
meant to be used as a search/engine for old entries
and doesn't have the quick, interactive feel of motd,v.
By the way entries from 1998-2003 are now posted, you can
check out all the stupid comments tom made
http://csua.com/?q=tom&start=0&type=hist
\_ Why would I want to read tom's old stupid comments when I can
get them fresh everyday right now? It isn't like he's ever
changed (grown up) or anything.
\_ and you're the model of maturity.
\_ you didn't sign your name so you're stupid and your
opinion has no value. --irony #1 Fan
\_ ~tse/motd,v
\_ Gary, I thought you had a life?!
\_ No married man has a life. You should know that.
\_ BDG, is that you? |
| 2004/4/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13445 Activity:insanely high |
4/28 I was looking at the iCal spec and noticed that it was written by
microsoft and Lotus. Do any MS products support iCal?
\_ No. Try to hook up Mozilla Calendar with Exchange, you will know
\_ Microsoft's business model is based upon "embrace, extend,
elimate" open standards. Rather they came up with the
standard or not is irrevelant.
what I mean.
\_ I'm sort of going for the reverse. I want to use Outlook to
publish to a WebDav server bc Mozilla Calendar is functional,
but not as polished as Outlook. Why do they publish a spec and
then work in the exact opposite direction?
\_ It's part of their Innovation 2000 Five Year Plan.
\_ It's what the customer wants! |
| 2004/4/28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13440 Activity:nil |
4/28 Does Outlook have any integration w/ WebDav? I just setup a WebDav
server and can share w/ iCal (Mac) or Mozilla Calendar, but Moz's
Calendar isn't quite up to par. |
| 2004/4/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13228 Activity:nil |
4/16 My lynx (non-soda machine) doesn't save cookies, whats up with that? |
| 2004/4/15-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13224 Activity:nil |
4/15 Are there any meta-installs for Firefox extensions? There are so
many available... I just want to click on one link and say, "gimme
everything that this uber-web-dev guy has".
\_ use the source, luke. write it and tell us where you posted it.
\_ what platform? |
| 5/16 |
| 2004/4/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13170 Activity:nil |
4/13 A while back I asked how to get curl to download files protected by a
login. The files I was interested in were protected by cookies. Turns
out curl uses the same cookies format as Netscape (and Mozilla and
Firefox). So you can just use log into the website with Firefox and
use the cookies.txt file as input to curl:
curl -b cookies.txt "URL" > out
\_ you can make one request using curl -c to save it to a file then use
curl -b like how you have it. |
| 2004/4/10-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13126 Activity:nil |
4/10 When I use font-size:medium, the font sizes are totally different in
IE and Firefox/Moz/Safari/etc. For real websites, is it recommended
to do something like font-size:11px ? Both allow for resizing.
\_ If you want something that looks exactly the way you want it to,
use PDF. If you want something that looks the way the reader
wants it to, use HTML. Your reader can make that choice; you
shouldn't. HTML specifies "what" not "how", despite the strong
efforts of far too many web designers who tell it "how", sigh ...
\_ PDF doesn't exactly work for interactive websites.
\_ Exactly the point. The "web designer" can not have absolute
control over the look of a site because html doesn't allow
for that. That is in the hands of the browser. There is no
way in hell a page in IE will look like the same in Mozilla
and in Opera and in lynks and Safari, etc.
and in Opera and in links and Safari, etc.
\_ medium/large/small/etc. are measured relative to the browser's
default font setting (which is configurable by the user, although
the default may vary from browser to browser). If you set it to
something like 11 px, then you're making your text by default to
be too small for people with high display resolutions or poor
eyesight. Every time they visit your page, they'll need to resize.
\_ Yes but if I use relative font settings and set my fonts to an
average size (which of course, looks too big to a 20something
graphic designer), it'll look tiny in FireFox, etc. If I set it
to 11pt, like most of the web, then people like my dad can still
view the site as long as their browser's font size is "Larger"
than default.
\_ Your grandmother's font size will be whatever the default is
for her browser. Stop being clever. |
| 2004/4/9-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13122 Activity:low |
4/9 What browser do OS X users use? I use Safari but 3-4 of the sites I
frequently visit have problems with it, so then I fall back to FireFox
and as a last ditch effort, IE.
\_ There's a way to enable the "Debug" menu in Safari. I forgot what
it is but it's some XML preference. From there, you can switch
your "User Agent".
\_ Type the following in Terminal and restart Safari:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
\_ I use mozilla because, despite the fact that it's much slower, it is
also a lot more feature rich than Safari.
\_ I had to juggle among the 4. BTW, Safari beta was quite fast but
since 1.0 it has become intolerably slower. Mozilla/FF, however,
behave rather strangely at times and often refuse to download
images on the web page. I also notice at lease one place where
the current version of Safari version of safari is less compatible
than earlier one: http://hotmail.com
\_ windows and IE have no problem on any web pages. if you can't
beat em, join em! windows/IE >>> non-windows/non-IE.
\_ not totally true. Since the windows updates last fall, IE
on W2K and XP acts strangely with backslashes in some tags.
But, since most website design targets Windows IE users, this
doesn't show up much.
\_ Exactly. IE is the most popular and thus the best and that's
why everything is tested and works on it. I'll bet those
few broken things don't work on other browers either.
\_ One HUGE place where windows IE out of the box sucks
is that it doesn't block popups by default. Other features
include Auto-Form Fill and Tabbed Browsing. Also, Safari
lets me hit back on pages that I visited that contained
forms, where WindowsIE won't let me. --mac/windows user.
\_ why would you want to block popups? it's called
targetted advertising. if you didn't want those
products you wouldn't be on those websites. popups
are good! they pay for the web. IE has autoform fill
and had it long before mozilla. safari didn't even
exist when IE had autoform fill. tabs are for babies.
just open another window. what is the point of tabs
when you're just getting more pages that your browser
can't read anyway? while tabbing, mozilla will often
freeze the curernt window so you're not really getting
the multi tab features tabbing should provide. and
lastly i dont know what your BACK problem is. i can go
forwards/backwards through my history with no problem.
IE won the browser wars for a reason: it is superior to
the third party alternatives due to innovation and
leading the pack, not following it.
\_ I use IE, even though M$ dropped support for it.
\_ There are also Opera for Mac and a browser from the OmniGroup.
Anyone used them at all? |
| 2004/4/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:13040 Activity:nil |
4/6 Is there a way to make mozilla start in Gnome >=1.4.x when I click
on a URL in gnome terminal?
\_ Preferences, Preferred Applications |
| 2004/4/1-3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12970 Activity:nil |
4/1 I subscribe to an audio service that just started providing downloads
for the audio. I'd like to download several files (URL easily
generated algorithmically), but I have to authenticate through a form.
Anyone have an example of how to easily use curl to enter a form and
save cookies so that it can download these files?
\_ once: curl -c cookies.txt '<DEAD>.../?user=...&pass=<DEAD>
many: curl -c cookies.txt -O http://path/to/file
--dbushong
\_ Consider this your lucky day (you do use firefox, right?):
http://www.bengoodger.com/software/tabloader
You just set the extensions of the files you want to autodownload,
then hit ctrl-shift-s (the latter bit is not mentioned prominently,
so I'll repeat it: Ctrl-Shift-S). |
| 2004/3/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12893 Activity:low |
3/27 C:\Documents and Settings\person>ping <DEAD>other.site.com<DEAD> Pinging other.site with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Reply from 169.235.5.5: TTL expired in transit. I have problem connecting to this particular site, but when I tried lynx to this site from soda and another site, I don't have any problem. Why is that? \_ the answer is above; ttl expired. increase your ping ttl and see if that changes anything. \_ It would be nice if Windows had man pages. \_ Aah, if only windows had man pages. |
| 2004/3/26-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12883 Activity:nil |
3/26 New http://511.org traffic map - looks pretty cool... http://traffic.511.org/traffic_map.asp \_ Does this work like shit in mozilla for anyone else? Maybe it's just because I'm running the beta... \_ Works fine for me in Firefox. \_ yes, it works for me in firefox too, but i'm talking about mozilla. \_ Works fine for me in Safari (this surprised me!) |
| 2004/3/26-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12872 Activity:nil |
3/26 I recently installed FireFox for a couple of people in the office.
Now they're using it so much that they want to remove IE. Is this
possible with WinXP or does it break like a crapload of things?
\_ I managed to get rid of IE somehow... I think I went
into the portion that lets you remove parts of added on
windows stuff, like MSN explorer and MSN messenger,
it sucks because now I have to test the "Click back to previous"
website functionality when someone goes to my company's
website, which works just fine in Firebird, but apparently
doesn't in IE, but now I have no way of testing, sucks
to be me.
\_ insert cd, add program.
\_ Isn't the help system for office built on IE?
\_ Why would you remove it? You still need it for certain things.
Like e.g. Microsoft's update site. In any case you can just set
Firefox to be the default. Using Microsoft's "Set Program Access
and Defaults" you can also disable access to IE.
\_ I use Mozilla on mac. There are about 20% or web sites, esp.
foreign ones, where it does not work well or at all.
\_ Do you find that it is better than Safari? I use Safari,
then FireFox, then IE. IE on Mac is slow. Mac needs a decent
browser that is bug-for-bug compatible w/ IE.
\_ IE has been EoLed for years on Mac, but there are still sites
that it can view but the other 4 (Safari, Mozilla, FF, Camino)
can't. Safari was fast in its beta, but ever since 1.0, it
has become intolerably slow while being able to view more and
more pages. I really don't understand what's the issue.
FF still needs work, and Mozilla still has certain trivial
interface oddities. Mozilla is the only one I can configure
to warn me about sending unencrypted text. All 5 browser
together cannot view some pages viewable by IE on PC. I have
never used Opera and haven't touched Omni browser for ages.
An unsolved problem of using so many browsers is the bookmark.
\_ I'm currently looking at ways to 'sandbox' or otherwise restrict
IE as massively as possible. Drop me a mail if interested. -John
\_ uh, run traffic through a proxy and drop anything with IE in the
http headers?
\_ Simple, pragmatic, doable, easy to get past management in
a large company. I like the way you're thinking. Try again,
young padawan. -John
\_ It's no different that whatever wacky thing you're thinking
of. The end result is the same, IE is blocked or otherwise
restricted as massively as possible. How about you share
with all of us nobodies what your fantastic uber Jedi
solution is?
\_ I don't have one, and my goal is not to block IE
but reduce risks inherent from running such a piece
of shit (and no, I can't currently get around it) with
so much potential for fucking things up. Disabling IE
period is pretty simple--restricting the damage it
can do through any number of existing and theoretical
vulnerabilities and still being able to use it for
things like MSUpdate/SUS is not. Sorry for not
stating the complete problem initially. -John
\_ Not to put a dent on your enthusiasm, I have
heard that if you installed the ActiveX plugin
for Mozilla/Firebird/Firefox, Mozilla will also
be prone to all sort of security issue.
Can you or anyone verify that? kngharv |
| 2004/3/25-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Industry/Startup] UID:12866 Activity:nil |
3/25 Any Sodians heard of or used to work with this company called Arcsoft?
http://www.arcsoft.com
I am interviewing a position there, wondering how you guys think of
that company. its headquarter is in Fremon, Ca.
\_ looks like another http://intervideo.com
\_ Who are these Sodians of which thou speak? --sodan |
| 2004/3/25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12851 Activity:nil |
3/25 Hey, what do some websites pop up extra windows on your screen? Is
there any way to turn that off? I'm using Win 98, IE 5.0
\_ http://mozilla.org/products/firefox
\_ Seconded. Firefox is pretty much the only game in town nowadays.
\_ what? Mozilla can also block pop-ups, and FireFox is beta only
\_ I'm running the previous version of Firebird, and some
pop-ups have been getting though. What's the dillyo?
\_ you're kidding, right? have you been living in a cave for the past
five years?
\_ No I was just trying to bait you guys. Pretty pathetic response. -op |
| 2004/3/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12797 Activity:moderate |
3/22 Are there any advantages to Netscape over Mozilla -firefox user
\_ none.
\_ netscape has integrated AIM, if you like that kind of thing.
\_ like I said: none.
\_ If you have to ask...
\_ Netscape is a discontinued product. -williamc
\_ since when? netscape 7.1 makes reference to 10.2.x on their
homepage.
\_ since the netscape browser division was closed down
by aol, dude.
\_ Netscape 7.1 is based on Mozilla 1.5 and it was the
-last- Netscape web browser. Since then, AOL has fired all
of Netscape developers (but provided some funding for
mozilla project). There will be no more Netscape web browser
releases in future. Please don't mention that name here
again. Netscape is dead. It has been for a long time.
\_ Long live Mosaic!!!
\_ "Last week, an AOL spokeswoman said there will be future
versions of Netscape that are essentially repackaged upgrades
of Mozilla." ...that doesn't sound any deader than when they
started... they're just not putting as much money into it.
\_ Merc article today about browser alternatives to IE. Langberg pimps
Opera over Mozilla:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/8246846.htm |
| 2004/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12592 Activity:nil |
3/10 Someone here used to work for some company that let you install some
broswer plugin that then let you read/write comments about the website
you were on to other users who had this plugin. Anyone know if that
or something like it still exists?
\_ I seem to recall http://thirdvoice.com, but they don't seem to be
among us any longer. -John
\_ a friend of mine founded eQuill, which let you do just that. But
he was never on soda. Perhaps I mentioned it once. But I dont
think that software is around anymore--at least, I know he sold
his company to M$... so perhaps you could expect some such
similar plugin to be builtin to the next version of IE. dunno.
Anyway, if you'd really like to get in touch with him for some
reason, lemme know. - rory
\_ http://Thirdvoice.com is indeed one of the companies. Died the death of
no business plan after burning millions of VC funding. M$ tried to
use a similar technology after thirdvoice folded, but it eventually
went nowhere either. There was also an open-source project that
would do something similar, but you had to view the web pages
through their proxy (no need for a browser plugin). -ERic
\_ we only burned like $5m or so.
\_ That was thirdvoice. 3v has been dead for several years, the
servers are long gone, "she's dead jim!". There was a proxy-ish
redirector service that annoted pages but all your traffic went
through their server. It was more like a student project than a
real service. I can't recall the name. --ex-thirdvoice
\_ did 3v ever have any revenues at all?
\_ not that I'm aware of, no.
\_ did you work with knchia?
\_ if it's the guy I'm thinking of, yes, he was really cool.
\_ what is thirdvoice again? Is it like slash dot?
\_ annotate other people's websites. later on it became a paid
keyword search service. |
| 2004/3/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12584 Activity:nil |
3/8 Another annoying Firefox/Mozilla question: I like the find-as-you-type
feature, but is there a way to make it do "next match"? It seems pretty
useless to just get the first one.
\_ ctrl+g to find next, ctrl+shift+g to find the previous match.
http://texturizer.net/firefox/keyboard.html
\_ F3 also works, but that was just a random guess of mine.
\_ hit F3
\_ Great question, I've been wonderin the same thing. |
| 2004/3/8-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12572 Activity:kinda low |
3/8 anybody know how to get mozilla 1.6 to put the cursor at the
top of the message when replying? Currently it puts the cursor
below the "on Saturday, Jim Bob wrote > and the message"
seems backwards.
\_ Yes. Under Edit->Preferences or Mail & News preferences, find
'Composition' and select 'start my reply below...' -John
\_ This version of Mozilla 1.6 (on Windows 2000) does not
have that option!
\_ anybody know how to configure mozilla 1.6 to NOT use its email
when i click on a mail link??
\_ what are you, one of those annoying "top posters"?
\_ top posters rule! ill bet you squeeze the toothpaste from the
wrong end, too!
\_ I used to be a bottom poster, except when I was replying to a
reply from a top poser. Then I switched job to a company where
we use Outlook and everyone else is a top poster. Now I'm
converted. I guess it's because Outlook defaults to top.
\_ Yes! Put the new stuff at the beginning. you're not writing
a novel, and I don't want to scrool down to the bottom to
see your message. |
| 2004/3/8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Recreation/Media] UID:12570 Activity:nil 55%like:12590 |
3/8 Anyone have a video of the Chapelle Show skit "What if the internet
was a real place?"
\_ It's on the ComCentral website, but it's not detecting my RealPlaya
correctly.
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/chappellesshow/showclips.jhtml
\_ then try: rtsp://a1703.v9950f.c9950.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/1703/9950/v001/comedystor.download.akamai.com/9951/chappelle/206_internet_300.rm |
| 2004/2/25-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12405 Activity:nil |
2/24 for the guy trying to check freely available email accounts
from the command line, i suggest you use "links"
instead of "lynx", i've gotten "links" to work with yahoo mail.
\_ w3m |
| 2004/2/25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12398 Activity:nil |
2/24 What happened? It used to be that if I typed http://google.com in my browser if would load http://www.google.com correctly. Not it only keeps saying "Making HTTP connection to http://google.com". And after a long time it finally loads. If I type in http://www.google.com it loads fine. This started recently and happens on multiple client IPs and with Mozilla and lynx. Gah, it started working again. Is it some DNS problem? \_ Sounds like it. Check your /etc/resolv.conf. Make sure the first server responds in a decent amount of time (or at all...). -scotsman |
| 2004/2/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:12387 Activity:nil |
2/23 Is there a web based free email compatible with lynx?
\_ kinda curious why you'd want this... if you have access
to a command line, can't you use a command-line mail
program or log into a box that has one?
\_ it's useful to have throw-away mailboxes.
\_ http://spamgourmet.com
\_ throw away mailboxes don't have to be web-based...
that said, I use an extra netzero account for throw
away mail... it has POP3 mail. Perhaps there's a
reason they want web-based?
\_ why not use sneakemail for throw-away mailboxes?
\_ It's nice to have an email acct. that is 1) fully functional
with SSL login, 2) completely disposable and anonymous,
3) can be accessed anywhere, whether from a comand line host or
public library shared web machines.
\_ sure, that's nice. it's also not profitable, which is why
you don't see that kind of thing. free email services
need to serve ads, which are predominantly graphical.
\_ find a non-free service that satisfies 1 and 3, and then you
use sneakemail to satisify 2. |
| 2004/2/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:12362 Activity:nil |
2/23 Anyone else having problems with firefox .8 on FreeBSD 4.x?
It runs fine, but I get tons of weird warnings, errors,
and assertions being spit out in the xterm that started
firefox. |
| 2004/2/20-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:12337 Activity:nil |
2/20 Does the mindterm ssh java client on csua home page work with
Mozilla 1.6 (for OS X)? After I typed in password nothing comes out.
\_ your password was sent to Chirac in France. |
| 2004/2/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12292 Activity:nil |
2/17 For those who even THINKING about upgrade your Mozilla Firebird
to Mozilla Firefox, wait a bit. I've upgraded mine and it was a
diseaster. I am switching back to Firebird until they iron out
the bugs in the download management. |
| 2004/2/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:29813 Activity:nil |
2/17 Anyone using http://communitycolo.net? Is it absolutely free? (bandwidth, power, storage) If you donate, how much do you donate? |
| 2004/2/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12181 Activity:high |
2/9 Firebird becomes firefox - version 0.8 is out...
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox |
| 2004/2/7-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12151 Activity:nil |
2/7 I just installed FireBird for the first time today after Mozilla
kept on crashing in an old, underpowered Linux machine. I've never
seen a browser this amazing before. I mean, seriously, the first
browser upgrade that really blew me away was Netscape 3.x. Firebird,
while still in beta, recaptures that experience. I immediately
started installing this thing on every machine that I use. This
thing just blows IE out of the water.
\_ tell us why it is so much better. Reliability? Feature? What else?
Give us the specifics.
\_ It's hard to explain why exactly it's better. I think it's just
that Mozilla always felt very clunky and this basically just
strips everything off of Mozilla which was clunky and just makes
the whole epxerience a lot better. It feels a lot more
responsive than Mozilla and the UI is really a lot more
organized and a lot simpler. You can do everything that you
did in Mozilla but in a smaller footprint. In terms of
stability, it's not necessarily any more stable at this point
than Mozilla, but it seems to load up quite a bit faster.
I think it's also much closer to IE in the sense of just having
a browser. There isn't all this clunky shit that comes with
Mozilla like the email, the page layout tools, the chat, the
IM, and all that other garbage. I guess it's like the smaller
tool mentality of UNIX in general, and that makes it much
better than trying to be an environment. It reminds me very
much of older versions of Netscape before the bloat.
\_ standards-compliant rendering, features, speed.
\_ the first is identical to mozilla, the second is less than
mozilla.
\_ and the speed?
\_ the point is, a slightly faster browser with fewer
features and the same rendering engine as mozilla
shouldn't be considered "amazing".
\_ well, after you reduce features, it's a lot easier to
improve speed. don't drink the lemonade.
\_ interface speed is much faster (menus, dialogs, window
opening, etc) rendering speed is the same. mozilla
w/ quickstart starts up faster (since it's already
loaded) firebird works better on low-cpu, low-mem
boxen. on high-end boxes, they feel pretty much
identical, and mozilla has more features --dbushong
\_ even low cpu isn't that big a deal (on my celeron 500
with 1 gig of ram, they're both quite fine). the
real killer is if you don't have much ram and have
to start paging stuff out.
\_ Killer for which? I've got <512mb of ram but
1Ghz processor. Which is better for me?
\_ umm, i think i made it quite clear that ram
is the killer. i'm not quite sure what to
make of your "<512mb". Does that mean
256MB, 128MB, ...? it kinda starts to make
a difference when you get down there. |
| 2004/2/5 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:12105 Activity:nil |
2/4 Since ipfw rules does not care which program is making the outbound
access, how do I block, say all outgoing traffic except that generated
by ssh and mozilla?
\_ That's not really what ipfw does. Block all outbound traffic
destined for ports other than 80, 443 and 22.
\_ Okay, is there a way to block based on program name in FreeBSD?
(I heard ZoneAlarm Pro does that, but it only runs on windows?)
\- there are some sort of hairy ways to do with with
fbsd involving complicated jail setups. with linux i suppose
you can try grsecurity. solaris-next is supposed to have much
finer-grain control but i'm not the best person here to talk
about that. what about traffic genreated by say your resolver
routines? --psb
\_ ob"we don't need no stinkin resolver routines!" |
| 2004/1/30-2/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Virus] UID:12032 Activity:moderate |
1/29 My roommate's computer (IE6) keeps getting all her requests for
http://yahoo.com redirected to http://yeah.com. She swears against all spyware.
Any idea how to get rid of this?
\_ http://security.kolla.de
It's been recommended by many places. This guy takes
donations.
\_ this is "Spybot" that the poster below mentions.
\_ my gf's computer once had all search sites redirected in the
hosts file. i've also seen some weird dll's (ieXXX.dll) in the
system32 (?) directory. a reasonable virus scanner will catch the
rogue DLL.
\_ http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware
\_ Adaware is nice, but it's not managed to find/ditch
a few nasty browser redirect "trojans" -John
\_ SpyBot, too. I install these two programs for everyone with
a problem computer. Your roommate's computer has spyware; and
if she swears against it, then it was her evil boyfriend surfing
gay porn sites (not that there's anything wrong with that) that
infected her computer.
\_ USE FIREBIRD
\_ I've switched back from FireBird to IE. It doesn't have flash
support by default, only works w/ 95% of websites (THIS SUCKS).
\_ install the plug-in. big deal. I noticed the 5% @first, but
I don't notice it anymore, and I never have to open IE to
browse a site I have trouble with. Sure, some sites look
a little weird, but I can live with that, and as I said,
it doesn't bother me. The amenities of FB outweigh the
inconvenience, imo. Of course, 0.8 is due out very soon,
so you could just wait, and not have to install once, then
again 2 weeks later.
\_ otoh, flash installer automatically detects mozilla.
\_ How is firebird any better then Mozilla on any reasonably
fast computer?
\_ it's not really. there are some extras i guess, like ctrl-k
googling, but nothing seriously better, and quite a few things
seriously worse (of course, they don't claim to be production
ready either).
\_ Google says that you need to fix the hosts file, which not all
spyware fixers correct. |
| 2004/1/27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29765 Activity:nil |
1/26 Stupid question which I am having problem finding answer on google:
How you customize MIME setting on Mozilla Firebird? |
| 2004/1/27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11950 Activity:nil |
1/26 stupid question which i am having problem to find answer via google:
how to change MIME setting in Mozilla Firebird? For example, the
ASF file is being opened in mplayer.exe (the older version of Windows
media player) instead of wmplayer.exe (WindozMediaPlayer v9).
I couldn't find anywhere to edit this behavior. I have looked in the
"Download" tab in option as well as rdf files in my profile. Thax
\_ firebird is not exactly production quality software. it's missing
a lot of polish. the easiest hack is probably just to edit mime
settings in mozilla and then copy the mimetype.rdf thing to
firebird.
\_ Search for mozillazine in the motd archives.
\_ Good move. If you're going to Chinglish the motd, starting out
with how stupid you are is the way to go. |
| 2004/1/24-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Mail] UID:11924 Activity:high |
1/24 Can someone recommend a good mail client for Windows that nicely
handles multiple mailboxes, each with its own outbound server (I
need IMAP + TLS) hopefully besides Outcrook? Tried Opera, Mozilla,
Firebird, Pegasus, none of them particularly seem to like multiple
SMTP servers. -John
\_ I use both Mozilla and Thunderbird w/multiple SMTP servers. They can
be a little difficult to configure, because the dialog for changing
server settings doesn't seem to remember more than one change at a
time, but once I got it all configured I didn't have any problems.
-emarkp [formatd, damnit]
\_ What was wrong with my formatting? I have tabs set to
8, and I wrap at 80 lines to minimize # of lines in a
post. -emarkp
\_ you're going past 80. you do all the time.
\_ Whatever. I'll keep an eye on it, but it seems
to be working fine for me and my settings haven't
changed. I'll set my wrap at 79 in case your
settings are messed up. -emarkp
\_ My settings? It's only your posts. I've
counted my chars/line with both wc and my
fingers. No one else goes over as often
as you. --formatd
-emarkp
\_ I use both Mozilla and Thunderbird w/multiple SMTP servers. They
can be a little difficult to configure, because the dialog for
changing server settings doesn't seem to remember more than one
change at a time, but once I got it all configured I didn't have
\_ Eudora will do this, and if you are still affiliated with Berkeley
as a student or staff, you can get it for free.
\_ The Bat! baby. Let the bats fly again..
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat
any problems. -emarkp [formatd, damnit]
fingers. No one else goes over as often as
you. --formatd
\_ I'll be sure to turn of tabbing then and
insert spaces only. Less chance for
problems. -emarkp
\_ OK thanks that's what I thought should happen. I's remembering
them ok, but can't seem to figure out which one to use with
my two test accounts. Meantime, postfix/cyrus-saslauthd on
FreeBSD is giving me grief, so I'll have to fix that first.
Thanks. -John
\_ speaking of which, how to set up SMTP / IMAP connect to Soda?
\_ Eudora will do this, and if you are still affiliated with Berkeley
as a student or staff, you can get it for free.
\_ The Bat! baby. Let the bats fly again..
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat |
| 2004/1/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11890 Activity:nil |
1/22 http://www.pantsfactory.org/?action=comments&linkid=1024 Funny discussion on abusing the penguin. (worksafe) |
| 2004/1/14-15 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29748 Activity:nil |
1/14 Study shatters internet geek image:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/14/geek.study.reut/index.html |
| 2003/12/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:11578 Activity:nil |
12/23 After I upgraded my computer to XP, images viewed under IE looked
really bad. Mozilla still loads them fine. What could possiblely
be causing this?
\_ Thanks but I found the answer in the registry...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Exploer\Main\UseHR
needs to be set to 0.
\_ What does that value mean?
\_ http://csua.org/u/5cv
If this value is defined to 1, IE will scale images if the
Windows DPI setting (in Display Properties -> Settings ->
Advanced) is set to higher than 96 DPI.
Set the value to 0 to turn off IE scaling of images. |
| 2003/12/19-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11532 Activity:nil |
12/19 How do you get Firebird to handle new file types? Sometimes it tries to
open binary files in the browser window.
\_ You can shift-enter on the location bar to force-save the file, or
wait for 0.8 to fix this issue (branch has already been cut for
release): http://mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=4104
\_ I don't understand why all the Netscape-like browsers do this.
What's up with the shift-click thing all these years?
\_ What's up is that the server is sending the wrong
Content-Type (probably text/html or text/plain if
Firebird tries to display it in the browser window) for
binary files. The reason it might work with IE is that
IE violates RFCs by guessing what the content-type really
is by looking at the file extension. -tom
\_ I see. I prefer the functional RFC violation to the
geeky, correct, but non-functional version.
\_ You think the violation is functional because
you think Microsoft is the center of Universe and
Windows + Intel PC is the only kind of computer
on face of the earth. Fortunately, there are a lot
of geeks who are actually doing productive things
on other Hardware/software platform so you don't have
to learn another OS, or learn how to type up a paper
without using the Word which you pirated.
\_ Actually it's extremely unlikely you know more
systems than I do. Unlike you, I've learned that it
is better when they just work, rather than blindly
follow an arbitrary standard which makes the apps
less functional. I bought Word. I also paid for
my personal copy of Solaris. When in school and I
couldn't afford Word, I wrote my papers in troff
while everyone else was still using type writers or
the very few computers available on campus. What
were *you* writing your college papers on in the
80s?
\_ functional violations of the standard by
monpolies are always bad. they make the monopoly
stronger. if all the small players don't adhere
to the standard and do adhoc shit, they lose
to the big player. so blame either the standard
or the webmasters. i don't think the browser is
at fault.
you're an idiot for using troff. -ali.
\_ he's actually a liar and a troll for saying
he used troff. he's an idiot for implying that
was a good thing.
\_ i only lied about being a troll. -clooney |
| 2003/11/25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11217 Activity:nil |
11/24 Alternatives to MS IE. Anybody know what's the skinny on Netscape
7.1? free, quality? Anything about it better than Mozilla?
\_ No. If you're going to use NS7 you're better off with M1.x which
is the same code base but actually gets worked on.
\_ Firebird firebird firebird.
\_ Yeah, I know. That's the one I'm recommending, but I'm
trying to understand what is Netscape these days.
is it downstream from Mozilla, or is it independent?
\_ yes. NS will always be behind Moz, because it starts from the
Moz codebase.
\_ There's really nothing to recommend it. It's Mozilla with
AOL ads.
\_ it has an integrated aim client and its mail client can
read netscape webmail. however, the netscape browser
division is no more, so that's probably the last netscape
you'll see. so i'd go with mozilla. maybe firebird, if it's
good enough for you.
\_ Safari. I'm told konqueror is pretty good too. Of course
real men just need telnet to surf the web.
\_ real men code in assembly too. |
| 2003/11/24-25 [Computer, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29667 Activity:moderate 53%like:11187 |
11/24 http://csua.org/u/534 Do you support anti-spam internet vigilantes? \_ Yes. \_ how far would you go? \_ Nuke the site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure. \_ Orbit? Nukes? That would be expensive. Stick with chainsaws and shotguns. \_ A quick hot death is too good for them. |
| 2003/11/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11055 Activity:nil |
11/12 http://dialanorgasm.com (sorta work safe, but watch out for the porn site popup if you're not running Mozilla) \_ teledildonics? \_ What's "Hen's Nights"? |
| 2003/11/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:11037 Activity:nil |
11/11 In KDE 3, every time I highlight a URL with my mouse, a little
popup on the lower right side of the screen asks me if I want
to open it with either Netscape, Mozilla, or Konquerer. I don't
use...I only use Firebird .7. Can I modify that popup box to
have it include firebird in its short menu? Thanks.
\_ It's a setting for Kopy or Klipboard or whatever it's called.
Right-click on the clipboard icon in your taskbar.
\_ Cool, thanks. It was the Klipper Clipboard preferences
actually. |
| 2003/11/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:11015 Activity:nil |
11/10 Anyone have personal experience with the Creative Nomad Zen NX?
The features says that it can be used as a hard drive. What
kind of interface do you get? Does it show up as a drive in
Windows explorer? What kind of filesystems can you put on it?
Is the USB 2.0 interface fast enough to run apps off it?
\_ You can run apps off tape with the right driver. That doesn't mean
you'd want to.
\_ I've used the Zen (not NX, but they are pretty similar). It
doesn't show up as a drive in explorer, you have to use special
software to access it (either Creative's software or 3rd party
software called 'Notmad'). I don't think you can run applications
through Creative's software, it may be possible with Notmad but
I haven't tried it. |
| 2003/11/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10926 Activity:nil |
11/3 Does Firebird have an "AutoFill" extension like the new google toolbar?
\_ Can you describe the feature in more detail, so those of us who
love Firebird so much that we won't run anything else (and are lazy)
have an idea of what you're talking about? :)
\_ i've got yer autofill extension right here pal
\_ I don't know what are you talking about, are you talking about
URL auto-completion on things you've typed up in the past? and/or
stuff that you've searched in the past? my firebird version 0.6
on Windoze has this nasty bug which crash on auto-fill once a while.
\_ 0.7 is much more stable, well worth the upgrade.
\_ Sorry for the ambiguity (i use firebird 0.7 but miss google's auto
fill feature). It's like http://Gator.com spyware... basically, it can
auto fill your name, address, phone, zip, etc into forms w/ a
single mouse click.
\_ firebird can remember things that you filled out in forms in
the past, and will let you auto-fill them in, but on a field-
at-a-time basis. Does the google feature fill in the whole
form? (that would seem fairly difficult, given the differences
between forms/labels/etc)
\_ yes, google can do it all at once. so how does firebird
do its version of auto-fill?
\_ Mozilla has a googlebar plugin. I never got it work on my
version of firebird. May be you would have better luck.
-- happy firebird / thunderbird user
\_ I use the googlebar, which rocks, but it doesn't have this
feature. Also, the auto-fill is quite different from
firebird's autofill. firebird's autofill is specific to the
site, where google's works cross-site (it's pretty good).
\_ i am using Mozilla and very happy. What's different about
firebird? It's ironic that Netscape got better when it no longer
has a big company over it...
\_ I think you need to check your definition of ironic. When
was the last time you saw a piece of software from a big company
that was remarkably better than the open source equivalent?
\_ LOL. is that a joke? are you really that out of touch with
reality?
\_Apache, gcc, kde, gnome, vim, g-emacs, mySQL, perl, bash...
\_ Play any open source games lately? Oh wait, I guess you
think GNU chess is just as good a game as Diablo II. |
| 2003/10/31 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10885 Activity:high |
10/31 http://www.justchooseme.com/rules.html \_ what? \_ one of the worst designed sites around. Don't even bother. Fat chix |
| 2003/10/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10756 Activity:nil |
10/23 For all you Firebird enthusiasts out there. Has anyone tried
Thunderbird? Is it worth switching to over Mozilla?
\_ I personally don't like windows mail clients, I prefer pine.
but my dad seems to like Mozilla's client the best.
\_ 0.3 is a huge improvement, but is still a little frustrating
in some ways (previously used OE, trying it out, tempted to
go back...). Compaction is annoying (as in Mozilla), esp.
when you sometimes use unix to check mail as well; a shortcut
to compact all folders would help. Lots of minor issues (why
can't you list the "to" field in the pane? ...) But the
customizable tools bars are a huge win over Mozilla...
\_ err... v 0.3 is out? I couldn't customize tool bar on
version 2.
\_ Speaking of which. is there anyway for any of those windoze
mail client that has 1. regular expression filters for email/
USENET newsgroups, and 2. synch with Palm ? |
| 2003/10/22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10729 Activity:nil |
10/21 umm, is there any browser out there that is going to balk if i feed
it a .jpg file labeled as a .gif file. It seems to be no problem
on windows exploder or mozilla, but what about macs and others?
\_ why would you want to do such a thing?
\_ laziness is the primary answer. The code i'm using calls for
.gifs i want to use jpgs, i have not found any problem simply
renamimng my .jpg files to .gif, however, i don't want that
to end up with a broken image on some Mac. or whatever.
\_ can you change the code? wrong file extensions are LAME.
\_ yeah, no one knows the answer to your question because
no one has any experience with doing something this dumb.
\_ no, file extensions are lame. the idea that you'd use
the filename to determine the file type is an MS assault
on common decency. "man file".
\_ True, but this guy is actively trying to mislead with
a bad extension. |
| 2003/10/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10726 Activity:nil |
10/21 If you were as impressed with Mozilla Firebird 0.7 as I was,
wait until you turn on pipelining:
http://texturizer.net/firebird/tips.html
Look for pipelining, but instead of using user.js, go to
about:config and use that interface to change the three pipelining
options. That's what worked for me. --aaron
\_ What does it do?
\_ Download multiple files in tandem. ie, grab several images in a
link simultaneously instead of sequentially.
\_ you mean... parallel pipelined porn?
\_ new meaning for PPP
\_ uh, no. it pipelines http requests in the socket rather than
suffering RTT delay to synchronize request/response pairs.
some older servers may choke on this.
\_ I stand corrected. I guess I can't believe everything I
read in Linux Magazine.
\_ How do I know when pipelining is working? The user.js method
seemed to work for me; about:config shows the options as true.
However, network.http.pipelining.firstrequest,
which is not user set, is still false. Do I need to flip this to
true? What's a good way to see the before and after of turning on
pipelining?
\_ i don't think you need to worry about firstrequest. if you
REALLY want to verify it's working, you'll need to snoop the
headers of your http connections. there are lots of tools.
any reason why you are so sure they aren't?
\_ motd formatting daemon, stat!
\_ glad to be of service
\_ How bout, pages start loading totally dangitty-smackin' fast?
\_ Placebo effect!
\_ it depends what sort of sites you are using to compare.
loaded sites like <DEAD>sharereactor.com<DEAD> are undisputably
faster for me with pipelining. i would guess their
setup has high per-connection costs.
\_ Well, to be honest I also changed the initialpaint delay.
I haven't bothered looking at the pipelining alone.
\_ How can you get it to keep the same tabs open the next time you run Firebird?
And when I drag links to the toolbar below the address bar, the link doesn't stay.
Bug to be worked out in next version? |
| 2003/10/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10679 Activity:nil |
10/17 I'm having trouble viewing the online Fry's ad at the
http://mercurynews.com site. Everything on the page except for the ad
image shows up. IE6.0SP1, Win98SE. Help me please!
\_ Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a real computer.
\_ Hey, our good friend "blah, blah, blah, kid", "blah, blah,
blah, son" is back. You always add such value to the motd,
welcome back!
\_ I don't think it's a single guy -- I think it's more of a
motd-culture thing. You know, mixing old alums with young
ugrads, etc.
\_ He is quoting old Dilbert, you illiterate ape.
\_ yeah, 'cause if you don't read Dilbert, surely you
have no culture and must be illiterate
\_ wow, *whew* it's good to see that you understand.
\_ You're one of those condescending UNIX computer users!
\_ No, he's probably a linux user and candle lighter.
\_ Actually, I read Dilbert and watch the Dilbert TV show.
Must have missed that one.
\_ It was posted for a couple years by more than one prof
on seventh floor soda. Perhaps you need to renew your
credentials, young padawan.
\_ http://csua.org/u/4q7
\_ Nerd!
\_ Oh please, like any of us was still on campus after
they finished building Bathroom Hall. I could find
it with a map and a hottie ugrad chick to keep me
warm, nothing less.
\_ They were there for years, man. Years. Just
be a man, and admit that you're an idiot.
\_ Years? They? WTF are you drooling about?
Where is my hottie? You don't qualify. Send
in the freshman chicks!
\_ 1995
\_ Does CSUA still make people draw pictures of theirmom
in order to get an account? Harken to 5th flr E.
\_ Switch to Mozilla Firebird. The latest version rocks my socks.
\_ You mean r0x0rz y00r b0x0rz!
\_ It kicks ass. And check out the extensions. Woood!
\_ Too bad my mouse wheel doesn't work in Firebird.
\_ mine does. nyah nyah nyah.
\_ you win the nerd of the day award. mouse wheels are a ms
invention to make up in part for their shitty UI. |
| 2003/10/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10671 Activity:nil |
10/16 Mozilla Firebird kicks butt. This latest version is the first of these
free browsers that I'm 100% satisfied with.
\_ I'd like it if it weren't so buggy.
\_ did you delete your old install completely AND create a new
profile? yeah it's lame but you gotta. --aaron
\_ *that* means its buggy.
\_ someone else posted this, but I didn't see any response: What do
you guys move over from your old installs after upgrading, and
how do you do it?
\_ Yeah, I originally asked that... I ended up just installing
over my other version, and haven't had any problems so far.
(It did wipe out my extensions) |
| 2003/10/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:10635 Activity:nil |
10/15 Are there any Moz Firebird mirrors out there? on CSUA?
\_ For which OS?
\_ Windows build .7 is in /csua/tmp
\_ did it work for you? the file seemed corrupted (WinXP)
\_ yeah didn't see any probs, and the md5s match.
\_ They generally recommend starting out with a new profile for
new releases. Just wondering, what do people move over from
their old one, other than their bookmarks? (is it easier to
port the cookie lists/etc, or just nuke and start from scratch?) |
| 2003/10/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10596 Activity:nil |
10/11 Any reccomendations for an online bookmark manager? It must im/export
to IE, Netscape, Opera, Konqueror across Windows, Linux, AIX. Looking
for a free service, no ads, and the site shouldn't disappear in a few
months or years. Considering the following:
http://www.linkagogo.com
http://www.link2mark.com/en
http://www.myhq.com
Any opinion / experience with those? Suggestions for something else?
\_ free, with no ads, and won't go out of "business"? are you
on crack? you'd best roll your own.
\_ http://csua.berkeley.edu/~yermom + ed + XHTML
\_ Have a look at http://www.enhyper.com/lib -- I don't recall what
he's using, but you can ask. -John
\_ you want free, multi platform, does everything, no ads, and won't
ever go away? this isn't 1998. |
| 2003/9/30-10/1 [Computer/SW/Editors, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10387 Activity:nil |
9/30 http://dmoz.org what happened? The site has been super slow. \_ oops, that was me constantly hitting the reload button. \_ I hit the (k)rash item on the menu. sorry. |
| 2003/9/29-30 [Health/Women, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10375 Activity:nil |
9/29 birth control methods include failure percentages in a year, but of
the successful percentages, how many of them are infertile? In
another word do companies take in account of couples who can't
conceive, and take them out of the statistics?
\_ Think about this for a minute.
\_ if you're infertile, why would you use birth control? and even if
you did (because you didn't know), the product would still 'work'
for you. Is this supposed to be a troll or just dumb? It seems
more bizarre than troll.
\_ This is actually a very important question. And yes, studies
take this into account (or they should) when rating
birth control products. Depending on how they conduct the
study and who does it, the assumption is that couples are
fertile and in their prime. Studies like this usually prescreen
and preselect couples, and they typically have a control group.
Since these studies are widely used in academia and are typically
published in JAMA they should be relatively accurate. However,
even the best studies have been proven wrong in the past. JAMA
and the AMA as well as the FDA are hardly failsafe in their
scrutiny.
\_ Heh. You should hear what an epidemologist I heard today
had to say about JAMA. Meanwhile consider the statement
'If it's published in X, it should be Y,' for various values
of X and Y. For instance X = internet, Y = true.
\- yeah my friends in stat/biostat also roll their eyes
when trying to do sophisticated statistics with doctors
who think they know everything. --psb
\_ infertile != sterile. infertile means the gametes are there
but they have a tough time meeting or going forward in
development after they do meet.
\_ sort of like the bar scene? |
| 2003/9/29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:10359 Activity:nil |
9/29 What do you guys use to SFTP your files from soda to home Winbox?
I use WinSCP but it hangs too often. Thx.
\_ cygwin scp
\_ SecureCRT + zmodem
\_ SecureFX
\_ Putty's pscp. Though FileZilla works too. Both are free.
\_ http and mozilla |
| 2003/9/22 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29937 Activity:nil |
9/20 I almost *NEVER* use pop/IMAP for email. I normally just simply log
into my shell account and check email there like what I have always
done for the past 12-13 years. Now, for certain things, it would
be convinient for me to actually have a POP/IMAP client on my windoze
machine. My question for you uber nerds out there,
what are the most popular open-source POP/IMAP client for windoze?
Mind you, that I would like to run spamassassin and other email
categorizing filter in between. Thanks in advance
-- lesser nerd
\_ Mozilla seems to be ok.
\_ mozilla thunderbird you mean
\_ Ditto -John
\_ why would you ask an uber nerd about "windoze" clients? you have
thus revealed yourself as a lesser lesser nerd.
\_ because lesser nerd couldn't find a cool job that uses
UNIX box at work. -lesser, but comfortable nerd
\_ Uber nerds don't care what OS is in front of them as long as it
supports multiple simultaneous ssh clients. Uber nerds don't
use the desktop for anything but an expensive terminal. GUIs
are for girls and grandmothers.
\_ Use Outlook! -Greater Stud
\_ Use cell phone! -Greater Stud+
\_ outlook is by far the most fully featured client. sure it has
its problems, but I've never looked back.
\_ even if you did, you still couldn't find your
ass with both hands. |
| 2003/9/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:10238 Activity:nil |
9/17 Anyone uses Mozilla Firebird? I already have jvm installed, but
my browser doesn't detect java plugins. How to install java plugin
manually on firebird?
\_ Firebird can't do Java
\_ I'm using FireBird 0.6.1 with JRE 1.4.2, Win2k and WinXP
without problems (assuming you're on Windows)..
Check http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/phoenixwin.html for
hints and tips. Most likely, you need to to apply a registry
patch so Plugins know where to find Mozilla.
The generic Plugin FAQ is located at
http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs Note: I also have Netscape
7.1 installed, so FireBird may be getting the JavaPlugin info
from my Netscape Plugin folder. |
| 2003/8/27-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:29484 Activity:low |
8/27 This is a question for Imaging gurus. I have a few JPEG
files which I'm not able to view on my PC. However, I am
able to view the thumbnail of the pic in Windows Explorer
in XP. When I try to load it in 'xv' on unix I get the
following errors. The image is located at /csua/tmp/photo18.jpg.
Is there any way to fix these JPEG errors? Thanks for any
help. - madhav
- Corrupt JPEG data: Premature end of data segment
- Invalid JPEG file structure: two SOI markers
\_ Opera and mspaint display it just fine. Save as a different
format maybe. "SOI" = start of image. -John
\_ Thanks. I tried on my work PC (W2K) and it seems to open the
image fine without any problems in Netscape 7.1, IE 6, MS Paint,
and MS Photo Editor. -madhav
\_ Where did the image come from? If it is from a digital camera,
it is likely that they did a "smaller+regular" image trick.
Basically they stored a smaller version of the image at
the front to allow faster preview inside the camera. Maybe
"xv" just does not handle this case? (Sounds like John's
assumption of having "two Start Of Image" may back this up.)
\_ The image came from my Sony Mavica CD-200 digital camera.
What is weird is that not all pictures have this problem, only
1 in 25-30. -madhav
\_ I did a bit of digging, and apparently some jpeg file formats
like SPIFF use SOI markers to indicate that the following
information is format-specific. Some decoders don't understand
the tags which follow the additional markers, and just look
at the SOI bits themselves. Page for SPIFF is at
http://netghost.narod.ru/gff/graphics/summary/spiff.htm
What's the picture of? -John
\_ The picture is of the valley as seen from Jungfraujoch(highest
train station in Europe approx. 11500 feet) in
Switzerland. -madhav |
| 2003/8/26-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29472 Activity:low |
8/26 While signing for online access to a foreign bank for a friend.
Safari 1.0 and Firebird 0.6.1 complains that it could not
verify the host (Safari: bad server certificate), while IE on win2K
and Netscape 4.75 (Mac) does not complaint. which one should
I trust?
\_ You can trust IE and Netscape on this issue. You should check
the details of exactly why Safari and Firebird said it was bad,
but it was most likely because the certificate authority was
3rd tier (i.e., not Verisign or Thawte).
\_ it is also possible that the certificate has been revoked.
old IE/Netscape won't catch these when new browsers can. |
| 2003/8/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29396 Activity:insanely high |
8/19 How's Netscape 7.1 compared to 4.8? I have a Celeron 400 128MB and
P-III 800 256MB, both running NT. Does 7.1 (using Gecko) perform
better than 4.8 on these wimpy machines? Thanks.
\_ Shit. I use a P3-700 and used a p3-450 for years before that. I
wish I'd known they're too wimpy to do something trivial like
surf the net. Intel told me if I spent $3k on a new computer
every year, the net would go faster!
\_ those aren't that wimpy. i have a celeron 500 (granted, with 1 GB
ram) and mozilla runs great. it'll probably be a bit slow, but
usable, on the 400, unless you have a lot of other apps open. the
800 should be just fine. in case you didn't, mozilla and netscape
7.1 are practically the same thing.
\_ I'd seriously look at MozillaFirebird, it's fast on my NT4
700 Mhz machine. http://mozilla.org/products/firebird/why
\_ second that. Don't use netscape. it's just an older
version of mozilla :p and Firebird is slightly
lighter than Internet Explorer nor Netscape
\_ actually, for the first time in a while, the netscape
and the stable moz are at parity. ironically, mozilla
is more widely supported by commercial apps/plugins
than netscape 7.
\_ A Celeron 400 is Wimpy with a capital "W".
\_ as opposed to WImpy or WIMPY?
\_ not if all you do is surf and use word.
\_ This is because Word requires so few resources? The
thing is a pig.
\_ Just needs memory.
\_ it is a pig for what it does. However a celeron 400 is
a hell of a lot of processor power. If you aren't
doing simulation or emulation or lots of graphics
then it is plenty for surfing. I used a 450mhz p4 until
recently and it didn't feel slow.
\_ Just today I installed Firebird on a really old Pentium 133. It takes
*forever* to load (i think the machine has 32 or 64MB ram) but is
quite usable after the initial loadup. >= IE5 (in terms of speed). |
| 2003/7/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29168 Activity:kinda low |
7/29 Does there exist a plug-in, extension, or some other solution for
Mozilla to share the bookmarks across many different workstations?
(NFS won't help in this case)
\_ rsync
\_ You want one master bookmark list? You want to merge them from
all users into one master list they all share? What do you want
to do?
\_ Switch back to Netscape 4.8 and use it's roaming feature |
| 2003/7/14-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:29027 Activity:nil |
7/13 I would like to let my browser (mozilla/firebird) to block any image
file (typically a gif file) that is 1 pixel by 1 pixel. Any existing
tools to do that? BannerBlind used to able to block image of specific
size, any other tools?
\_ Window Washer on windows will do things like that and functions as
an http proxy. |
| 2003/7/3-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28913 Activity:moderate |
7/3 Is Mozilla 1.4 really broken? I seem to be having some major layout
issues with it in Windows.
\_ I've been using. It's so much the same I forgot I'd gone from 1.2
to 1.4.
\_ Odd, when I reverted to 1.3.1 the problems seemed to go away.
\_ what is wrong with firebird? I love it :p
\_ I used it once and i think it doesn't support SSL.
But I could be wrong. |
| 2003/6/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28794 Activity:low |
6/20 Is there any software that allows a voice modem to screen phone calls
and act like an internet accessable answering machine?
\_ You can buy gizmos that do it. Never heard of freeware that turns
your v90 into one. |
| 2003/6/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:28777 Activity:very high |
6/19 I want to write a script (or find any workable method) of viewing
and saving multiple sequential pages on a website. I can do this
in perl easily (just extracting data from source) except for cookies.
I generated frames to let a browser handle the cookie transaction but
mozilla won't let me save frame source (!?!). Seems like this should
be easy. Any advice? -jnat
\_ have you tried 'wget' or 'curl'?
\_ wget doesn't seem to work with http://picturetrail.com
\_ I've thought of doing this too. Is there a good way to emulate
a web browser so you don't get in trouble for screen scraping?
\_ must...supress...urge...to...make...vector...calculus...joke
\_ curl is what you want.
\_ must...suppress...urge...to...make...vector...calculus...joke
\_ for those who are less geeky, there is getleft.
\_ What do you mean by "multiple sequential pages"? You can do
cookies and all other browser emulation in perl. I'm not sure
what you're trying to do. Me and many others have written web
\_ "I"
\_ Nyet, grasshoppa! In this case
"Me and many others" is a single plural term. This is not
what you were taught but did not learn in 3rd grade about
"me and jonny were spanked for being bad" vs "I and jonny".
In the future I'll confine myself to the simpler forms of
English for you so as not to confuse the masses.
\_ if you want to be truly pedantic, it's "Johnny and I."
spidering programs to crawl and rape other people's sites. It's
a reasonably well solved problem.
\_ Okay where do I find out how to do this? I've been doing
google searches and reading pages and pages and not seeing
anything client-side.
\_ http://cpan.org. You'll find all the modules for making http
connections, saving and sending cookies, etc. |
| 2003/6/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28740 Activity:high |
6/17 Anyone have any experience with StarOffice 6? I am sick to death
both of MSOffice, and of StarOffice 5.2 munging macros and formatting.
Neither koffice nor OpenOffice do a better job. And yes, I do
occasionally need to work on word docs. -John
\_ obED!
\_ soffice 6 sucks on Linux/*BSD/Solaris. It is slow, unresponsive,
and frequently screws up word conversions (esp. those with
custom styles, macros and revision history). If you just need
to read the occasional word doc and you don't mind that the
converted versions looks like shit soffice is okay otherwise
you are stuck with M$ Office.
\_ Funny, SO5 already filled all those criteria. Thanks for
the honest appraisal, though. -John
\_ err... what is the differences between StarOffice and OpenOffice?
\_ think netscape 7 versus mozilla
\_ thought so. If that is the case, why would anyone,
as an individual, choose Staroffice over OpenOffice?
-Mozilla / Firebird user
\_ If the individual is not a technical guru, the
1-800 number tech support instead of usenet/mailing
lists is a big plus. There's also a couple of features
in SO but not OO, such as some of the spell checking
dictionaries and the database for their MS Access
clone.
\_ funny thing is, last time I checked, there is no
1-800 number on MS office neither. In fact,
I don't recall any of MS products has tech support
:)
\_ In Office X there is a button labeled 'Tech
Support' that brings up contact info for M$
tech support. In case you wanted to call them
the numbers are:
Standard Support: U.S. (425) 454-2030
Paid Support: (800) 936-5700
\_ standard support? "Please dial 800-936-5700
for further support! Thank you for calling
Microsoft's Standard Support Hotline!" |
| 2003/6/14-15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28732 Activity:moderate |
6/14 I fill out a lot of forms for sweepstakes/free stuff that basically
just ask for name, address, email. Is there any way to partially
automate this within mozilla? Preferably it would generate random
answers to any survey questions and generate a new spamgourmet
email address.
\_ good idea... may be you should post this at the mozdev site
and someone will write it :p
\_ do you ever win anything?
\_ I've never won any drawings, but I do get a lot of free stuff.
I have free subscriptions to Maxim, InfoWeek, Field and Stream
ect. Occasionally I get small things like a free Webster
dictionary and golf balls. Whatever... free= good. And I
really haven't seen much of an increase in spam because of it.
\_ It's not truly free. They're getting some info out of you.
\_ given that the op is implying that he is providing false
data, the companies are really recieving something
of negative value in exchanege for their giveaways.
of course, the op's time is probably worth way more per
hour than the compensation from the giveaways for
filling out stupid web forms. It seems to me that both
sides are losing.
\_ You can't provide all false data and expect to get
anything in the mail ;) Besides, if you look at it
that way every time you write to this you're loosing
$$ for little gain. But really, I've got nothing
better to do while currently unemployed :)
\_ uhm, look for work?
\_ Well, I have a job lined up for next month. |
| 2003/6/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28611 Activity:nil |
6/1 Is Mozilla 1.4 same thing as the Mozilla Firebird? I read somewhere
said it is, yet i see 2 listings on the site. Thanks
\_ no, firebird is pheonix, sort of the next generation mozilla (which
I don't like as much even though it does render a LOT faster.
\_ Additionally, Mozilla 1.4+ will migrate to a separate app model
(with firebird as browers, and thunderbird as mail program).
\_ thanks. I'll stick with Firebird. --OP |
| 2003/5/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:28583 Activity:nil |
5/29 sigh... AOL/TimeWarner surrendered the browser war...
\_ You just noticed? That happened years ago, genius.
\_ I think he's referring to the $750M settlement with MS today
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/29/technology/microsoft
\_ yup, that is what I am refering to. While the outcome of
the war is clear years ago, AOL didn't wave the white flag
until now. Notice the word "surrender" I refered earlier..
- OP, not as genius as you think
\_ They waved the flag years ago. Netscape was never serious
competition after the sale. AOL could have put real resources
into it, used it for their own services, etc, and never did.
This $750m thing doesn't make it official. It was already
official in 97/98.
\_ Only if your definition of "winning a war" is synonymous to
"winning a war through DoJ punitive actions" |
| 2003/5/30-31 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28581 Activity:kinda low |
5/29 Has anyone here tried Digital Path for internet?
\_ I always use digital paths for my internet. Analog internet is so
300 baud.
\_ Perhaps he meant http://DigitalPath.net?
\_ Stupid wannabee funny comments deleted.
\_ Dick. As if the comments prevented anyone from giving a real
answer. There's still no real answer and just your dumb ass
deleting something funny and replacing it with... well, your
dumb ass saying nothing. |
| 2003/5/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28533 Activity:kinda low |
5/22 For those who use Mozilla Firebird... I thought firebird is supposed
to be lighter than the original Mozilla code, but it's still has a
40mb memory footprint... is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
[corrected. now mostly in english. --englishd]
\_ It depends on how much memory cache I let it use. At default
setting, Pheonix fires up quicker and smaller, but eventually
grows to the same size. |
| 2003/5/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28503 Activity:nil |
5/20 Where does Mozilla (firebird) store its cached data on W2k?
\_ STFW: http://texturizer.net/firebird/edit.html#profile |
| 2003/5/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28394 Activity:kinda low |
5/9 Any ideas as to why google might prevent soda browsers from doing
searches?
\_ Which browsers? links, lynx ?
\_ links... though lynx works for me. Hadn't tried it before.
\_ works in w3
\_ They blocked you because they're a bunch of 'Furders and you're
at Cal. |
| 2003/4/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28265 Activity:kinda low |
4/29 Anyone tried a recent firebird build. It's pretty kickass.
It feels quite snappy and the icons and preferences are niiiice.
\_ do you mean the web browser or RDBMS?
\_ the DB, of course. What other firebird is there?
\_ the browser |
| 2003/4/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28190 Activity:high |
4/22 Is there a trick that will tell links (the webbrowser) to let me
highlight/copy text from its window? It clears the screen when I
suspend or quit, so that won't work either.
\_ Hold down shift.
\_ try some combination of alt+click, like ctrl+alt+click, or
shift+alt+click, depending on your terminal. WFM.
\_ solves the problem for me on konsole; thanks much.
\_ I'd like to know this too.
\_ not exactly sure what you are asking
\_ Open up links, search for your favorite quote, song lyrics, or
poem. Try to highlight the text in the window to copy paste
into another file or email or whatever-- unless you're in
Cygwin it won't work. The best I've come up with is
F9, Save As foo, Quit, then lynx -dump foo
\_ This actually depends on the xterm [or whatever terminal emulator or
terminal] you're using. I just try to use xterms that keep the X
"selection" (or whatever it's called) until you actually highlight
something else (even if the selection is not visible any more). |
| 2003/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28167 Activity:high |
4/19 I'm trying to get mozilla 1.3 to run on my ultra 5, solaris 2.8
box on the local display. I've patched the os, I've added the
shared memory options to /etc/system, I've grabbed the gtk/glib
from netscape7 from sun, I've added that to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
I've pulled my hair out. All I get is a prompt back when
mozilla-bin exits with error code 1. I ran truss on it but I
didn't see anything special going on. Has anyone got mozilla to
run on a solaris 2.8 box? Is there some trick I'm missing? Thanks!
\_ obInstall1337GN00L1nuxRideBike!
\_ this is why a run a windows desktop
\_ mozilla --debug?
\_ I don't have a debugger installed and the binary comes pre-
stripped anyway.... I've been using NS6.2.3 which sucks.
\_ Try this
delete components/compreg.dat
cd to your home directory and run $prefix/mozilla
After that, you should be able to use mozilla from any directory.
Also don't forget to run the shell script that's mentioned
in the mozilla release notes if the mozilla directory is not
writable by the users. By the way, I have found some strange
rendering problems in Sun's mozilla package. I have built a 1.3
package using gcc and I am not seeing these problems. You
can grab my package at
http://math.berkeley.edu/~akopps/mozilla/1.3
\_ How do you install this after untarring it?
\_ I'd love to get strange rendering problems. It means I'm
rendering. :-) I tried all this and nothing. I've tried as
root and as a normal user. Blah. I guess I'm stuck with
what I've got. Maybe mozilla 1.4 will run when it comes out.
Thanks for the tips!
\_ you can also try: ln -s /usr/bin/lynx /usr/bin/mozilla
\_ but give a try to my build. It's known to work.
\_ How do you install this after untarring it?
\_ mv .mozilla .mozilla.old; mozilla. Or try mozilla1.2.1
\_ is anyone else irked by how hard it is to run mozilla
\_ Yes. Very irked. I've never had so much trouble getting
something to run. The complete lack of any error message on
exit is extremely frustrating. I'm using NS7 now which is
better but still not the real deal. I can't use binaries from
an individual's compile although I do appreciate the offer.
I'll probably end up compiling my own when I get time. --op
\_ the lack of error message almost certainly means it's a
problem with the libraries it's linked against, compared
to what libraries are on your system--I've seen this happen
with other applications on Solaris. The app never loads
enough to generate an error message. -tom
\_ Huh? Meaning the binary itself is bad? I got it from
the http://mozilla.org site. Is there a solution other than
doing my own compile? thanks! -op
\_ meaning the binary was linked against libraries
other than the ones you're trying to load. -tom |
| 2003/4/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28136 Activity:nil |
4/15 Thanks M$, for destroying innovation and stifling creativity.
Where would we be without you?
http://news.com.com/2009-1032-995681.html?tag=toc
\_ Ride Linux!
\_ haha |
| 2003/4/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:28002 Activity:high |
4/5 On the http://netzero.com Terms and Conditions: * Software Downloads. As part of the NetZero Service, NetZero may from time to time download software owned by NetZero or third parties to your computer. Your use of the NetZero Service constitutes your consent to such downloads. What is this about? What type of software would they want to download to my computer? Is this to scan the files on my computer, or likely something more innocuous? \_ something to do with ads maybe? \_ why do you want to use netzero anyway? there are other choices that are cheaper and have worked okay for me. e.g., joi internet. \_ Thanks for the tip! I'll switch to joi. \_ does joi require you to use their own software? \_ no. \_ Welcome to Gator hell. Tried Ad-aware @ http://lavasoft.com? \_ Ad-aware sucks. Get Spybot Search and Destroy \_ It probably means pop up and other ad crap, data mining, and similar spyware crap. Legally it means *anything* they want and they're on safe legal ground. Some third party ware installed via them steals your CC or tax info and you're a victim of ID theft? You're SOL. Don't be cheap, get real net service without T&C like this. \_Just hack Netzero and get around their software. I used to do it when their accounts were free. \_ Why bother? |
| 2003/3/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27689 Activity:high |
3/13 Can anyone think of any benefits of IE6 over Mozilla other than
the more-easily-customizable toolbars in IE6?
\_ javascript stuff doesn't always work in mozilla
\_ wrong jscript stuff doesn't always work. javascript works.
\_ whatever.
\_ If you are one of those people who belive that
tabbed-browsing-is-the-spawn-of-the-pits-of-shoggoths
the fact that IE6 doesn't have tabs is a benefit.
\_ Those can be turned off
\_ What complaints do people have with tabbed browsing?
\_ It violates some bs hci rules or something.
Some usability drone at work was telling me
how tabbed browsing just ruins "workflows".
\_ He's an idiot. It's much better than opening a whole
new window for each of 20 links on a page I'd like to
see. Shoot that stupid bastard. He's some dotcom
\_ He's an idiot. It's much better than
opening a whole new window for each of 20
links on a page I'd like to see. Shoot
that stupid bastard. He's some dotcom
leftover.
\_ Worse. He's an academic fossil with
a CS PhD in HCI and a whole list of
worthless papers and standards that
he is the author/co-author of.
\_ Oh God... save us all! Kill him now!
\_ tabbed browsing is a god send.
\_ I never used it. Why is it so great? Isn't it just that you
several open pages as "tabs"? Why is that better than just
having several open browser windows?
\_ Just try it. It's much easier than chasing windows
all over the place.
\_ It's kind of like virtual desktops. You can "group"
certain topics. Like I have one browser full of tabs
that is work-related stuff, and one that isn't. --aaron
\_ I thought exactly the same until I used it. It's hard to
describe but here's an example: I go to a site that has a
lot of links from one page such as google, slashdot, cnn,
or other news sites. I can single click open 20+ tabs and
they load in the background while I continue looking for
other things on the same page I want to read. When I'm
done I can then start reading through those tabs. The
non-tabbed way would have 20+ windows fucking up my screen
and on some/most platforms force me to reclick the first
page to bring it back to the top each time. Also, one
click and the whole browser goes to the taskbar. Non-tabs
means 20+ clicks. It's better. Try it. You'll like it.
\_ just discovered that the toolbars are even nicer/easier to
customize in mozilla with phoenix installed... -OP
\_ but phoenix also breaks lots of other nice features :(
\_ like?
\_ phoenix 0.5 doesn't support the google search in the
address bar, nor the group bookmark open in tabs that
I was originally seeking... Maybe .6 will. I can't
believe they have to change the name b/c someone else
trademarked phoenix?!?!? seems bizarre... -OP
\_ the nightly build has working google search, even
better because if you just type a phrase in the URL
bar it does a feeling lucky search. --aaron
\_ better support for plugins. maybe it is insecure for morons but
I like being able to just say "yes, dl the plugin" in a dialog box
that pops up (or never bother me aboutthis plugin again) and just
have it work. And since I'm not a moron it isn't a big deal.
\_ is there a test of some sort to determine one's moron status?
\_ yes. the motd. you've failed.
\_ Am I a moron? |
| 2003/3/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27679 Activity:low |
3/12 Anyone have any idea of how to open a lot of tabs in mozilla
automatically? (I have a javascript function that calls lots
of window.open calls for my "morning news read" that I would
like to have in mozilla as tabs instead of separate windows).
Thanks!
\_ phoenix does somethijng like this
\_ "Bookmark this group of tabs" under the Bookmark menu. |
| 2003/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27641 Activity:moderate |
3/10 Has any of you win98 users with dial-up experienced this? Clicking
Explorer (folder explorer) will bring up dial-up networking.
\_ this happens usually if you are using a yahoo or google toolbar
and you have a dial-up adapter to dial-on-demand.
\_ I'm not sure about the toolbar bit, but go to the internet
options, connection, set to directly connected, and uncheck the
'autodial' and pick nothing in 'use this dialup connection' -dwc
\_ You registry is mushed. |
| 2003/2/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27388 Activity:moderate |
2/12 Is there any graphical browser on soda? I tried "locate netscape" but
couldn't find the executable. Thanks.
\_ why would you even want to do that? why not just run the browser
on your local machine?
\_ Say I want to surf porn but don't want to be recorded by my
company's proxy server.
\_ The last thing we need is a bunch of people trying to stream
netscape over X11/ssh on soda. |
| 2003/2/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27297 Activity:nil |
2/3 Tried opencms, a Content Management software written in Java.
It is nice except 1. there is a functionality only work with
Internet Explorer. and 2. It doesn't wupport Gecko Render
Engine, thus, Mozilla / Netscape 6/7 is out. Continue
my search on open-source content mangament software...
\_ everyone remember ArsDigita? Here's what's become of them:
http://ccm.redhat.com - rory |
| 2003/1/21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Companies/Google] UID:27171 Activity:high |
1/21 http://csua.org/u/82c \_ What is this? Work safe? \_ it's text, use lynx \_ It's a story about freakishly large breasts. \_ She should be banned from direct breastfeeding due to suffocation hazard to her baby. Why didn't she even accept bottle-feeding with her own milk despite such a hazard? Maybe there's some sexual desire she needs fulfilled. \_ I think she just wants to get some actual use out of those things. |
| 2003/1/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27059 Activity:high |
1/10 Does mozilla 1.2.1 include bayesian spam filters?
\_ no. |
| 2003/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/Domains] UID:27004 Activity:high |
1/6 request to the http://csua.org people shortening the URLs: can you embed the domain name into the shortened URL? shortening http://cnn.com/blah/blah/blah/blah into http://csua.org/cnn.com/blah or if domain name is not available, use the ip address. I can't be the only person who is hesistant about clicking something that I don't know where it leads me. What if it's some porn site and I'm at work? \_ <DEAD>designsolutions.energy-offers.com/3.html<DEAD> shortens to.... link:csua.org/u/designsolutions.energy-offers.com/abc oh boy... isn't that a great improvement. \_ how about link:csua.org/u/energy-offers/abc optimize for the common case. long domain names are an exception not the rule. \_ Use mozilla tabs. Wear headphones. Get a better job. Don't view non-work stuff on work time. \- ObUseLynx --psb \_ Don't use fucking URL shorteners! You M$ attachment, click-me to auto-screw-me wannabes \_ How about a click-through link that tells the user the real URL before going to it? Or a form that returns the real URL? \_ other url shorteners do the above. use them. |
| 2002/12/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:26805 Activity:nil |
12/12 In w2k, when I go to START->DOCUMENTS there is a "my document"
icon also. At my work w2k machine, there's also a small right
arrow on the right hand side where I can move my mouse over and
it'll bring up all the contents of "my document". But, at my
own home machine, it's just an icon, there's no right arrow.
So I click it and it bring up file explorer. How do I get the
right arrow to appear? I don't like popping up new file explorer
windows just to get to my documents. Sorry for the lengthy
description, UI problems are a mouthful to describe. Thanks.
\_ Start Menu > Settings > Taskbar & Start Menu > Advanced >
Expand My Documents |
| 2002/12/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26775 Activity:nil |
12/9 My question was deleted but I found the answer:
Search google for "internet explorer multiple downloads" to find the
question and answer. |
| 2002/12/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26739 Activity:nil |
12/6 Any recommendations for online bookmarking sites? I'd like to have a
master list of bookmarks that I can sync across several machines and
different browsers (IE, Netscape, Opera). Yahoo's bookmarks are
limited at 1000; I've tried http://mybookmarks.com but don't like their
interface too much. Any reference to such comparisons would help too.
Thanks in advance.
\_ If you can't find anything, why not set up something yourself?
Toys like phprojekt (http://www.phprojekt.com albeit a bit overkill
for just bookmarks, let you do just that. Or do you want the
bookmarks locally available? -John
\_ limited to 1000? Dude, you're doing way too much surfing. I've
got about 100 after surfing since there was surfing and never visit
most of those. get out. meet women. become a priest. be useful
to society in someway. limit bookmarks to under 1000. |
| 2002/11/13-14 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26528 Activity:very high |
11/13 When does e-commerce really start? Does any scholars here read
\_Next Tuesday.
any documentations about how to utilize the internet to do business?
I just recently read that PanIP is suing all the small business
that utilize automated shopping over the internet. Supposedly the
owner of PanIP has two patents describing the automated process
of e-commerce. http://www.youmaybenext.com
\_ "Strong English language skills required".
\_ shut the fuck up aaron.
\_ ??? Is that quote directed to the link ??? |
| 2002/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26494 Activity:moderate |
11/9 remember roving profiles and bookmarks in netscape?
is there something like that for mozilla? - danh
\_ Nope. But it really needs it dammit. |
| 2002/11/9-10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26492 Activity:moderate |
11/9 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/08/1853200&mode=thread&tid=154 porn surf at work is now safe. \_ uh whatever. who is actually surfing porn at work? who do you work for? i need a stock to short. \_ Tech support at the company I worked for routinely visited pr0n sites. Since we were one of the primary providers of web hosting boxes to online pr0n sites they claimed it was all work related... I'd give you a stock symbol, but the company doesn't exist anymore. |
| 2002/10/26-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26331 Activity:nil |
10/25 There should be a recall on browsers that implement style sheets
incorrectly like Netscape 4.x. It's hampering progress.
\_ A recall? It's the client side. If they don't like the broken
page they'll upgrade. |
| 2002/10/22-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26283 Activity:high |
10/22 Has anyone installed an xWindows browser(netscape/mozilla/opera/??) on
soda?
\_ Please don't do this. I am sure you can find a better place to
run your browser from. Like scotch, for instance.
\_ Please don't do this and have it fork off 700 processes and
make soda unusable for the other 170 users, Mr. edelson.
-geordan
\_ We've been keeping an eye on you for some time, Mr. Edelson.
\_ I think it's funny that the non-undergrads are complaining that
the undergrad is using the machine paid for by undergrad money.
\_ Soda was donated.
\_ Don't confuse the issue with facts.
\_ Fact. The nettap sure as fuck wasn't donated.
Fact. If you want the K6-200 back, go get it.
Fact. Last i checked it was running redhat anyway.
\_ There's actually a significant difference between "using the
machine" and "bringing the machine to its knees". The latter
affects more than just non-undergrads. |
| 2002/10/19-21 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26254 Activity:nil |
10/18 How do I change the font size of the menus in mozilla? I'm using
the qt-toolkit.
\_ I thought mozilla used gtk.
\_ It maintains a layer of abstraction above the toolkit.
\_ Mozilla is prefect in all ways. It needs no changes. |
| 2002/10/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:26248 Activity:nil |
10/18 How do I tell plain old Netscape 4.76 for Solaris to not allow
any pop-up windows?
\_ I think you upgrade to a newer version of Netscape. Or you
could try the Solaris version of Opera, the fastest browser
on earth.
http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/index.dml?platform=solaris
\_ Disable java entirely or install mozilla1.1.
\_ javascript, twink |
| 2002/10/7-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26122 Activity:high |
10/6 Is there a way to make internet explorer not make any sound? I listen
to music on my computer all the time but i hate it when I go to a
website and some ad plays music or makes some stupid noise.
\_ Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Multimedia, uncheck
"Play sounds..." ... won't help for audio that comes from
Flash or other plug-ins, though.
\_ I believe the sound you're wishing to turn off is the one labeled
"Start navigation"... that's the click you hear each time you
hit a bookmark or traverse menus.
\_ "... and some ad plays music"
\_ nice |
| 2002/10/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26067 Activity:nil |
10/1 The source of all true news on the internet:
http://www.barbrastreisand.com/news_truth.html |
| 2002/9/26 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26012 Activity:high |
9/25 I see ppl on the internet say "gg" to each other in a derogatory
fashion. What the fuck does that mean? Damn internet.
\_ blame starcraft, good game
\_ internet chess way b4 starcraft
\_ it means vagina in mandarin.
\_ I thought mandarin was a tonal language so it matters how you
pronounce it, not how you spell it.
\_ I think (s)he just made it up.
\_ uh, it actually means penis. |
| 2002/9/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:25903 Activity:high |
9/16 what is a good usenet news reader for windows?
\_ NewsFerret. Hard to find, but great for searching. -John
\_ outlook bar none.
\_ Yeah. non-buggy newsreaders are for wimps
\_ Agent.
BNR(Binary News Reader) is good if you are only downloading binary
files.
\_ Start with Free Agent. Upgrade to Agent if you like it. Also,
BNR(Binary News Reader) is good if you are only downloading
binary files.
\_ Agent sucks cause it doesn't view pictures inline.
\_ Iview. Tag and execute dozens at a time, each gets it's own
no frills window and you can get off on a few pics while the
next 50+ are loading. ;-) Better than inline.
\_ I can't believe Sodians didn't mention Xnews. I used to use
\_ Is it installed on Sodia?
Agent myself, stumbled to this Xnews on accident because Agent
had some problem with Netscape. Once i switched to Xnews,
there is no turning back. Xnews has almost all the good stuff
Agent has (i.e. regex filter), but lighter and it's FREE.
only problem i have is to display different languages in
different groups. Xnews' website is not reliable, do a google
and search for keyword for "Xnews" and "Luu Tran" for other
downloading site
\_ What if the only thing I'm doing is download yenc encoded multi-
part binaries? Is Xnews better for that than Agent?
\_ if that's all you care about, try GrabIt
http://www.shemes.com/grabit. Or use yProxy
http://www.brawnylads.com/yproxy and use any newsreader
you want.
\_ It's all I care about. Thanks for the links. |
| 2002/9/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25862 Activity:nil |
9/12 What some ex-dot commers are doing:
http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?channel=artcol.jhtml&doc_id=209303
9/12
Subject: Re: annoying message about cookies doesnt work for MOZILLA
Dear d
Thank you for your letter. I apologize at this time we are not compatible with
Mozilla.
I apologize for this inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Sarah Abruzzese
Customer Care
http://washingtonpost.com
email: webnews@washingtonpost.com
____________________________________________________________________
d wrote:
> hi there
>
> My cookies have been set to "Enable all cookies" for my browser Mozilla 1.0
> (which is NOT the same thing as Netscape, which your code seems to think is
> the same thing [yes, I know that Mozilla is commonly known as Netscape, but
> it's a different story]). Yet I still cannot get past that annoying "Knowing
> more about our audience" page. I am able to view the rest of the pages fine
> using IE and Netscape (4.7).
>
> PLEASE FIX THIS BUG. I find it hard to believe that no other Mozilla user
> has brought this to your attention.
>
> d
\_ whoopie. now use another browser.
\_ no I think it's called "losing visitors".
\_ it's the original poster who loses in that case,
not the washington post. one lost visitor means
nothing to them.
\_ no. LOTS of sites dont work w/ nscp4.x and mozilla and
netscape 7. That's how it is now, move to IE like the
rest of the world or suffer.
\_ I've been using mozilla 1.0/1.1 and except for a few minor
font size errors everything has worked fine. --!sheep
\_ mozilla 1.1 allows you to set a minimum font size.
Rockin'. -tom |
| 2002/8/30 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25738 Activity:high |
8/28 Is 22 KB/sec an average rate for a download over cable or DSL?
\_ Uh, well, depends where you're downloading from. If it's from a
fast site, you should be able to get a lot better.
\_ <DEAD>sourcefource.net<DEAD>. Actually I think I am a moron: Via Lynx,
I'm downloading the slackware iso onto my laptop. I cleared
690MB for the 673MB file, but it's writing to a temp file
that is currently 535MB. Once it's finished, will it be able
to write the finished file while it erases the temp file? I
think I should have used wget. |
| 2002/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25728 Activity:high |
8/29 Anyone remembers when Netscape Communicator 4.8 was first released?
Thanks.
\_ Why does Netscape keep on releasing newer 4.x versions when there
\_ Why does Netscape keep on releasing newer 4.x versions when they
are already doing 6.x versions?
\_ And now 7.x
\_ google "netscape release history"
\_ Does AOL profit from Netscape browser now that it's free?
\_ If it hurts MS it profits AOL. |
| 2002/8/28-29 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25714 Activity:moderate |
8/28 Is anyone using mozilla with outlook as your mail/address program?
When I install browser-only I don't have any email options, when I
install the full thing, it will only use mozilla mail which is
useless in my office environment. I had this very "Microsoftish"
feeling about the way they ignored my default mail client settings.
This is windows 2000, office 2000, mozilla 1.1. Thanks!
\_ Did you try checking your Internet options (applications)?
\_ Yes. Mozilla just ignores my windows settings. Fuck mozilla
and their fascist control freak tactics stolen right out of
the MS playbook.
\_ geeze, how often do you click on a mailto link anyway?
Take a deep breath. And do a fucking Google search,
since this is answered in the Mozilla FAQ.
\_ I did a google search and found an _experimental_ set of
options to change from someone who was iffy on if they
even worked. I can't afford to fuck up my work mail on
a "geeze maybe". As far as how often I need this, the
answer is obviously, "more often than you". Back to IE6.
At least MS lets me change options without searching
google for half assed unsupported answers and they just
work. |
| 2002/8/23-24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25664 Activity:nil |
8/23 I hate how some popup adds mimic a win32 window, hoping you
accidentally press the fake "X" to close button.
\_ That's nice. Disable popups or download Pop Up Stopper. Bye.
\_ Yeah, it almost catches me offguard when a win32 window pops
up in the middle of my ctwm setup. Oh wait, Mozilla blocks them
already. Yay.
\_ I'm using mozilla and like it better than ie in every way except
it doesn't render as fast, some cut'n'pasting doesn't work right,
and a few scripted pages still only work with ie but overall it's
worth it. I keep ie on my desktop for the few pages that just
don't work right in mozilla. Wish it was faster though. |
| 2002/8/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Recreation/Humor] UID:25646 Activity:moderate |
8/21 links or w3m?
\_ is this like the hooker, santa claus, and easter bunny joke?
\_ What's that joke?
\_ I typed it but it does not work
\_ definitely w3m.
\_ Or lynx?
\_ telnet foo 80 ; GET / |
| 2002/8/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25604 Activity:moderate |
8/18 anyone have a copy of the pc software "audiojacker" ?
it seems to have disappeared from the search engines
\_ what does it do? try <DEAD>highcriterion.com<DEAD> for TotalRecorder.
It might be do what you want...
\_ i get domain not found for <DEAD>highercriterion.com<DEAD>
\_ read more carefully. or just search google.
\_ it's http://highcriteria.com ... or just search google for
TotalRecorder. |
| 2002/8/6 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25506 Activity:high |
8/5 "Winning an argument on the internet is like winning a gold medal
at the Special Olympics -- even though you're the champ, you're
still a retard." Talk amongst yourselves.
because you're too superior? _/
\_ Troll, then what are you doing on the motd? Oh yes, trolling. bye.
\_ That you (the op) are retard has already been established,
no need to argue about it.
\_ I thought it was well-put.
\_ You sound like someone who loses arguments all the time. There's
nothing special about the internet. If you can't win on the net,
you can't win in the real world either. You're intellectually
weak and should stick to your current career path where the big
debate is whether or not premium makes a non-premium car run
better or not.
\_ Arguing between two intellectuals is one thing. But you're
never gonna win an argument against a person whose sole
argument is something like "L1Nux blows! W1nd0ze rewls!" It
doesn't matter how many facts and common sense points you
bring. You're fighting maturity, which is a no-win
situation. Arguing face-to-face, you at least know who
you're dealing with, a 45 year-old CEO or a 12 year-old punk. |
| 2002/8/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25502 Activity:high |
8/5 Are there any browers that can disable popup and still run javascript?
I think it's the javascript that does the poppping right? Opera
is the most customizable brower around and I don't see that option.
\_ Mozilla?
\_ ding! i don't know that opera is "more" customizable then
mozilla.
\_ In Opera 6, hit "F12" and click "Refuse pop-up windows." You don't
have to disable javascript.
\_ mozilla is better, because you can disable "unrequested"
pop-ups without disabling all pop-ups (which breaks a lot of
stuff). -tom
\_ Yeah, I know what you mean, but mozilla is too slow.
Any way to make mozilla load faster?
\_ Runs fine for me on a p3-600.
\_ If you have lots of ram, enable quicklaunch. Otherwise,
not really.
\_ I've got moz1.0 on a p3-600 with tons of ram and quick
launch on. Loading up is fast enough but display is
still visibly slower than ie6 on the same box. I think
it's just slower. Maybe they'll fix that in 1.1 or 1.2
or something. Even slower its still better surfing with
all the anti-ad spam features than ie6 with a swamp of
popups and banner ad crap, imho. If you want fast and
anti-crap features try web washer. google it.
\_ OmniWeb
\_ I use Popup-Stopper from http://www.panicware.com It is GREAT!!!
\_ Which version? Free or Pro or Companion? |
| 2002/8/4-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:25490 Activity:nil |
8/3 What plug-in do I need to play AVI's on my pc?
\_ on Windows? Windows Media Player?
\_ i bet it's divx avi. search the web for divx codecs
\_ if so, and you're not planning on doing encoding, install
ffdshow instead. http://cutka.szm.sk/ffdshow/index.html
It'll decode divx3/4/5 and xvid video and has good
postprocessing control. --jameslin |
| 2002/7/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25252 Activity:very high |
7/1 Seems to bm like the ultimate new web browser feature would be a way
for the browser to restrict/block web pages from popping up new
windows. But, for business reasons, we'll probably never see this.
Sort of like the tire companies not letting LA build a subway system.
Thoughts?
\_ Netcaptor, you fucking idiot.
\_ Hi kinney! Your drivels are getting shorter all the time. What
gives?
\_ kinney hasn't logged in since Friday.
\_ Paolo does it for him.
\_ Mozilla. New to this whole computer thing?
\_ Go read http://freerepublic.com and learn something you fucking commie
liberal.
\_ Hi ultra-leftist-idiot-pretending-to-be-ultra-rightist-idiot.
No cookie, troll.
\_ Why don't you go to Texas and learn something you fucking
commie liberal.
\_ Yawn. Still no cookie. Like to try again?
This doesn't even qualify for Intro To Troll-1A.
\_ what tire companies are these?
\_ Didn't you see Roger Rabbit?
\_ Konqueror. There are Other Browsers, ya know.
\_ Yeah, you forgot about lynx. or links.
\_ Or w3m.
\_ telnet hostname 80; GET
\_ w3m is a far cry from telnet to port 80.
hell, it's a far cry from lynx. try it
out sometime. you'd be surprised.
\_ not for long, not if MS/Palladium has its way. You'll take
the software they give you, and you'll like it, and you'll
pay for its use (not _for_ _it_. you dont get to own software
any more, only rent it).
\_ But it'll make me safe from all those viruses! |
| 2002/6/27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25218 Activity:kinda low |
6/26 more re: mozilla
form auto-completion seems much more lame than in IE. Other people
experienced this? Solution?
\_ Use IE for forms, e-banking/investing etc. Use Mozilla + Tabbed
browsing for google searches, cvs-web, reading mailing list
archives, forums, etc. (IE Don't do any real work with mozilla)
\_ damn... so form completion just sucks in Mozilla? I was hoping
there was a module or something I could d/l to make this
better. maybe someone should write one.
\_ Huh? What's wrong with Moz form completion? Works for me. I
haven't noticed anything. |
| 2002/6/26-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25207 Activity:high |
6/26 If you use mozilla, you are a terrorist.
Iff you ride linux, you are a communist.
If you listen to bootleg slim shady, you are an anarchist.
If you have dark skinned foreign colleagues, you are a traitor.
GOD is not protecting America and Enron/Worldcom is collapsing
all and only because of the EVIL likes of you.
\_ And Andersen too?
\_ Yes, Andersen was caused by your impure thoughts when you
drove by the high school.
\_ Or junior high these days. Seen what 13 year olds look
like these days? Damn! |
| 2002/6/26-27 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25203 Activity:high |
6/26 Mozilla: wow. I was down on the mozilla project for a long time but
now that I've been using final product since it came out I've gotta
say it's really damned good. Switched from ie6 to moz1 on all my
machines at work and home. Tabbed one click browsing just simply
rocks. Finally having control over popups and other js crap without
third party plugins rocks. Great stuff. -- ex-anti-mozilla zealot
\_ If you're not using IE, you're anti-American.
\_ What about people who use OmniWeb or Netscape? They are
commercial US products.
\_ But they're not Microsoft.
\_ So using non-M$ products makes you anti-american?
\_ You fucking long-haired hippie liberal free-loader
\_ I may be a hippie, and I may be a free-loader, but I'll be
damned if I have long hair.
\_ just switched myself. cool. Any keyboard shortcut to switch
between tabs?
\_ Ctrl+PgUp or Ctrl+PgDown
\_ no google toolbar for mozilla? Can't live w/o the Google Toolbar.
\_ http://googlebar.mozdev.org, answering my own question
\_ Don't really need it. You can set your preferences to query
google when you enter text into the URL box and hit tab. |
| 2002/6/16-17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25114 Activity:moderate |
6/16 Remember Lynxgate, that Washington Times inspired witch hunt?
Here is what really happened. Of course, they will not issue
an apology.
http://outside.away.com/outside/news/lynxgate_1.adp
\_ Nice unbiased source. I love how they dismiss the case of the four
murdered firemen.
\_ Um, no. I don't remeber this at all. Are you sure you're not
taking some incredibly minor issue that was poorly reported on and
using it to push your own agenda? If so, get used to
disappointment. |
| 2002/6/12-13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25080 Activity:moderate |
6/11 Anyone going to the Mozilla Release Party tomorrow? Anyone
interested in carpooling and/or splitting cab fare? -dans
\_ where/when/what city
\_ I wanna go! I wanna go! Let's jus take my car after returning the
keg. What say you? ,wllm
\_ bring pocket protectors.
\_ And be sure to wink at the ladies. They love that.
\_ So do the men. |
| 2002/6/8-9 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25042 Activity:low |
6/8 Where's the best, free, most complete MSDS web site?
\_ if you're really concerned about the health risks of a
material, don't just read the msds. that's just a
place to start.
\_ I don't know about best, but we used this one in chem 3B:
http://hazard.com/msds
It's linked from the chem 3B website:
http://www.cchem.berkeley.edu/chem3b/useful_links.htm
\_ Thanks, that's just what I was looking for. |
| 2002/6/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24999 Activity:high |
6/6 Mozilla 1.0 Win32 install on /csua/tmp
\_ Does it not suck?
\_ It does indeed not suck. I was expecting it to suck, and it
ain't sucking. -- former non-believer who last tried it at 0.8
and thought it's a piece of crap until trying
1.0 this morning
\_ Is there a solution to how slow mozilla/netscape is loading
http://news.bbc.co.uk
\_ Loads within about 5 sec on this p200, 64M ram, win98
running (not my choice) and an @home tap. (quickstart
thing disabled fwiw)
\_ hope the bbc gets a clue?
\_ loads pretty fast for me. --scotsman (freebsd)
\_ Perhaps, I'm using my freshly downloaded win32 install.
\_ Are you using the mozilla quick-start thingybutt?
\_ takes forever to start on my laptop (512 mb of ram) and is much
slower than IE. The RDF mail/news is cool tho.
\_ your laptop sucks then, or you need to defrag in the worst way.
\_ and defrag is related to memory/CPU how? Get a clue. |
| 2002/6/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24975 Activity:nil |
6/1 How to 0wNZ the internet by our own nweaver:
http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/cdc-usenix-sec02/index.html
\_ This is just a big conspiracy to take away my p2p
pr0n/warez/mp3/divx client in the dorms! kazaa forever! |
| 2002/5/22-23 [Transportation/Car, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Transportation] UID:24913 Activity:very high |
5/22 Is the campus administration going to do anything about the
network connectivity?
\_ There's no problem with networ~{~#{}{@}NO CARRIER~~
\_ Funny!
\_ THE WHOLE CAMPUS IS GOING THROUGH A 2400 BAUD MODEM?! WELL DAMN!
I'VE GOT A 14.4 I COULD LOAN THEM, BUT I NEED IT BACK FOR MY
BBS!
\_ The problem with the network is fundamental--bandwidth usage is
rising faster than bandwidth cost is falling. Something will be
done about it at some point, but it won't be something you'll
like. -tom
\_ Like paying/packet or port blocking?
\_ For example. -tom
\_ send the bill to reshall
\_ The reshalls already pay for their own bandwidth, and
they don't affect the rest of the campus. -tom
\_ It'd be nice if the discussion regarding this was in a
public forum. A while back, there was some traffic
regarding this topic on http://ucb.net.discussion, but that has
essentially come to a halt.
\_ Has there been any discussion of traffic shaping? It seems like
it could offer a sensible solution to the problem. -dans
\_ There already is some traffic shaping going on. But it's
not a solution--web traffic alone is enough to trigger
the problem. -tom
\_ Cap web traffic.
\_ get a clue. -tom
\_ dude if web traffic is the problem, the answer is
to force proxy/cache it all and shape/cap the
traffic. it'll be slower overall but won't
require infinite bandwidth. you're really quick
with that 'get a clue' gun for someone who has
yet to propose your own alternative.
\_ I am actually curious why you don't consider
capping web traffic to be a possible solution?
Would a cap on web traffic degrade user
experience that badly? Perhaps the resulting
drop in performance would discourage 'casual
browsing'? How much could things be improved
via caching?
\_ Would you reduce traffic on a busy freeway
by building a wall across one of the lanes?
The web traffic is a good portion of the
fundamental purpose of our network
connection--to degrade its usage is to
degrade the very reason we have the
Internet. Do some research on "the
tragedy of the commons." -tom
\_ I'm well acquainted with the tragedy of
the commons. It is the plague of my
everyday existence. I'm just wondering
if slightly sluggish web performance
might not change people's browsing
habits. In effect, I'm not sure if your
freeway analogy really applies here.
Also, what about caching? That
seems to hold the possibility of
significantly reducing traffic we send
out to the commodity internet. Or is
there a reason why caching wouldn't help
or is not viable for Berkeley? -dans
\_ Changing people's browsing habits
is exactly what you don't want to
do. The net exists to be used.
As for caching, we have an Akamai
farm on campus already.
One of the major points of the
original article on the tragedy of
the commons is that there exist
problems with no technical solution.
-tom
\_ The net exists to be used not
abused. If you have a bunch of
stupid users who are constantly
fetching uncachable content like
slashdot or any of that web
services bs, the best thing to
is to discourage such behavior
by making it harder/slower to
get data from such places. Once
people stop abusing the net,
the problem is solved.
the problem is solved. This
problem *HAS* a technological
soln., its just that you don't
like that soln. because it means
you and your '1337 buddies can't
get their net fix.
\_ Damn, I just did the math
with a few conservative
assumptions and the bits/user
is insanely high. buncha pigs.
\_ gee, how many users of
Berkeley web sites are
there? -tom
\_ akamai farm? so what? that's not
caching what people are using, it
is caching what other people are
paying to have cached. not quite
the same, eh?
\_ Technically an akamai farm
can be used as a cache in
addition to a cdn. I hope
that TPTB are smart enough
to do at least that much.
\_ wanna bet?
\_ Is the web traffic
predominantly upstream or
downstream? If it's
downstream, could the
bandwidth be supplemented
with load-balancing across
cheap asymmetrical
connections?
\_ Our aggregate net usage is
weighted towards outgoing
traffic, though the disparity
isn't enormous. In any case,
DSL (if that's what you're
talking about) isn't "cheap"
for this kind of usage. -tom
\_ The Campus Net Wants To Be Free!
\_ "tragedy of the commons": the newst kewl motd phrase. just toss
this phrase around enough and you don't need to research or propose
any other solutions.
\_ The Tragedy Of The Commons Daniel McFadden, 09.10.01
Warning on the Net's shared resources
<DEAD>www.forbes.com/asap/2001/0910/061.html<DEAD> |
| 2002/5/15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:24837 Activity:insanely high |
5/15 My boss wants me to track what websites a user visits. The user is
smart enough to delete their history every time they log out (tweakui?)
Any recommendations for UNIX/NT software to do this?
\_ You can use a network snooper but I question what will be
accomplish by tracking what websites your own workers visit.
\_ There could be the case of the person visiting inappropriate
sites. However, in this case, the person (a secretary) tells
everyone that she has way too much work to do, but all the other
secretaries say that she just surfs the web all day.
\_ When installing a network snooper, where do you put it? Doesn't
it depend on whether the user is connected to a switch or a hub?
\_ Yes a snooper won't work on a switched lan. A alternate soln.
if you don't want use a caching proxy is to have your fw log
all outbound http and ftp requests and then translate that to
web sites. The problem with this is that you won't be able
to catch request made to services like anonymizer.
\_ Set up a caching proxy (eg. squid) and run it in transparent
mode (your fw/router redirects port 80, 21, etc to the cache)
and turn on max logging. You need to use transparent mode so
that your users can't circumvent the cache and screw up your
information gathering.
Use perl to grok the cache's log files and generate a list of
urls (or sites) per ip. Now use the dhcp server's log files to
map IP to NIC and therefore to individual client systems and
users (I'm assuming that most of your clients are mac/win boxes
and have only one user). This should give you all the information
you need and more.
\_ Thanks! We have a cache (Symantec i-gear), but the user wasn't
using it. I'll investigate how to get our router (no firewall)
to forward requests.
\_ One possible way is the set up the dhcp server to specify
the cache as the default router for the mac in question.
Then you setup the cache to re-route all traffic (except
for http traffic, which it handles) to the real rotuer.
\_ currently, we're still on static ip's/routes, but that's
something i'll look into
\_ If she is not smart enough to also clear the disk cache, you can go
to the cache directories and look at the content. E.g. on NT,
However, I think a better solution is to just keep track of her
%USERPROFILE%\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ for IE and
%SystemDrive%\Program Files\Netscape\Users\%USERNAME%\Cache\ for
Netscape; for Unix, ~/.netscape/cache for Netscape. You might not
know which URLs she visited, but at least you can see the content
of the pages. Note that for IE some of the dirs and files are
marked hidden or system, so you have to do "dir /a" to see them.
However, I think the better solution is to just keep track of her
activity at the proxy server.
\_ Be careful of what you and your boss are doing. Unless it's
in your company policy, you shouldn't do this. Your coworkers
can sue the company for this tactic.
can sue the company for this tactic. If you're going to do this
you better adopt a policy for this and have everyone in the company
be aware of and agreeable to it.
\_ Double check with your company's specific policy, but at
most places the company owns the machine and all files on it
if it is a work machine, and the company is allowed to
access it whenever it wants.
\_ if your company is going to do that, make sure it's in the
policy. "Company owns everything" is too vague. A good
lawyer will defeat that. You can not do it in way it single
out an individual or in anyway showing bias.
\- if the person you are trying to track is stupid, you can
use dug song's software ... that will basically sniff the
net, extract the urls and feed them to a netscape you run
so you more or less can watch the secretary "over his/her
shoulder". however really you probably want timestamped
logs, in which case just get tcpdump the port 80 traffic.
getting the urls in addition to dst addr is a little more
work but pretty simple. BRO can do this. --psb |
| 2002/4/16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24447 Activity:kinda low |
4/15 Is mozilla 1.0 worth the effort? How stable is it? thanks.
\_ When they release it, I'll say.
\_ I tried out .99. Uhm yeah, ugly slow, did some weirdo things.
\_ Yes, it is worth the effort. I have been using it on Linux for
a while now. It is more functional and more stable than NS4 for
Linux. I don't know about other OSes. You probably want to have
at least a 400MHz P2 with plenty of RAM to run it comfortably.
\_ I ran Mozilla 0.9x version. All i know that it is a lot slower
than Netscape 4.7x. I am running my Linux on a Pentium 180MHz
with 96mb (plenty for other uses). --kngharv
\_ The latest .99 runs pretty well on my powerbook g3/400 under
OS X. Its faster than IE in places and I really like tabbed
browsing, but it can't download files properly and it pops up
huge windows for each file that it downloads. |
| 2002/4/11 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24418 Activity:very high |
4/11 Do you remember how everyone made fun of Al Gore for his
comments regarding his role in creating the Internet? I
just read "Infrastructure for the Global Village" in
_Scientific_American_ (September 1991, V. 265, N. 3, pp. 150-153)
by Al Gore, and based on this article I think he deserves a lot
of credit for encouraging the growth of the Internet. Back in
1991 almost nobody new anything about computer, but Gore was
working on legislation and writing articles about it. -emin
\_ back in 1987, i think Al Gore logged onto xtrek, but i
dooshed him outta da game
\_ Back in 1987 I was using the internet everyday and it was old then.
So what? As an pre-cursor to the Al Gore Internet do I get a blue
ribbon or something? Let it go. He lost. He isn't coming back.
\_ Do you mean "Scientific America"? BTW I was sending internet e-mail
from my WEB account in 1990, and I wasn't even a hacker type. (WEB
in those days officially stood for Workstations at Evans Basement,
which you probably don't know.)
\_ I thought magazine names were underlined in references
(at least according to some sites I found via google
http://www.pwcs.edu/pwc/schools/lynn/bibfmt.htm
<DEAD>www.bishops.ntc.nf.ca/lang2101/biblio1.htm<DEAD> Sure
some people at one of the world's best CS departments new
about the Internet, but how many other politicians did?
I just thought it was interesting that people harrased him
so much when he legitimately did something useful. As the
poster below noted, I guess overstating your achievements
is a cardinal sin when it comes to public relations. -emin
\_ I suspect the politicians who funded the research for it
when building arpa net knew about it (before Al Gore had
PH#1). Then again maybe it was a pork line item in some
random bill.
\_ And how man politicians other than Gore knew the
difference between "new" and "knew"?
\_ Or can spell the word "many".
\_ "harassed"
\_ 1. I was just wondering by "Scientific America_N_" whether you
were referring to Scientic America or a different magazine
that imitates or is a parody of Scientic America. I wasn't
paying attention to the underlining. 2. How could Gore help
create the Internet in 1991 when it already existed?
\_ I remember back then, there was also something called bitnet.
\_ And uunet too.
\_ Yeah, Gore deserves a lot of credit. He just overstated it.
\_ Most of that was a Republican smear campaign:
http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore.and.the.Inte1.html |
| 2002/4/5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24330 Activity:nil |
4/4 Under linux, some processes refuse to die (even w/ kill -9), such
as Netscape and Xine. Do I have no option other than reboot? |
| 2002/3/27-28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24252 Activity:moderate |
3/27 I've started using Netscape Messenger for email but it always
wants to append @@hostname.domain to each addressee I type in
the To: field! Dumb question: how do I disable that. E.g. I want
to email joe, but it always expands it to joe@@hostname.domain.
This is also causing problem because if I type too fast it does
not see "joe" listed as an alias in my addressbook. |
| 2002/3/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24096 Activity:high |
3/12 what do you think about listening to internet radio or mp3s using
computer at work?
\_ how does this differ from bringing your CD player to work
and listening to music?
\_ depends on what work you are doing. Tech Support? Software
Engineering?
\_ I think it's a fine idea.
\_ Are you questioning a bandwidth or noise polution policy, or
a time waster policy. The former are valid concerns. The
latter is just stupid. If the employee is being productive,
taking away their music would be vindictive and pointy-haired.
If they're not being productive, music is probably not their
only problem. --scotsman
\_ on a somewhat related topic, will this XM radio idea ever
take off?
\_ are you willing to pay $9.99 a month for it?
\_ work shud never be fun.. stop fukn around and work.. -shac |
| 2002/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24066 Activity:low |
3/9 Which one is better? pgp4pine, MagicPGP, or PinePGP?
TIA --kngharv
\_ mutt.
\_ Speaking of which, has anyone heard of a PGP plugin for the
mozilla mail under *nix? And no, I used mutt for years, but
have found its imap support to break in my environment. -John
\_ fetchmail |
| 2002/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24065 Activity:low |
3/9 I am running kde, it currently uses netscape to handle
urls. I want it to use netscape6. where do i change
this setting? - danh
\_ depends, if you're highlighting and using the klipper, go to
klipper - prefs-actions, and click on the RegExp for http. |
| 2002/3/7-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24058 Activity:high |
3/7 How do I disable the "links" cache?
\_ ? lynx?
\_ links is like lynx, but does better layout.
\_ Ctrl-R to refresh. |
| 2002/1/28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23689 Activity:high |
1/27 So what's the functional difference between /csua/bin/webfmt and
/usr/bin/fmt ? They seem pretty close to identical.
\_ try using fmt with text cut/pasted from netscape |
| 2002/1/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23673 Activity:moderate |
1/25 Does Lynx handle javascript? I am limited to shell browser but
cannot access pages with drag-down and pop-up boxes. What options
do I have beside Lynx? Thanks a lot!
\_ lynx/javascript: not that I've heard of and certainly not the
bog standard version everyone is using.
\_ Thanks, but what about any existing tools on csua or ocf?
\_ w3m |
| 2002/1/22-23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/P2P] UID:23634 Activity:moderate |
1/22 The problems with the Cory/Soda networks seems to be pretty
widespread throughout campus. Is the routing being handled by
monkeys or something? It's soooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooooow.
\_ Since about a week-and-a-half ago, the campus has been hitting
its bandwidth cap on its link to the commodity Internet
(70 megabits/sec). About half of the traffic is kazaa/gnutella.
CNS and the chancellors are trying to decide what to do about it.
-tom
\_ So when did this bandwidth cap start, and why didn't CNS
announce it in http://ucb.net.announce like they do all other service
interruptions? This reminds me of when then initiated the
cap on the dorms and wouldn't tell Residential Computing what
the "problem" was for 2 days. -mikeh
\_ The bandwidth cap has been in place since our OC12 was
installed--it's only recently been hit. 70 megabits/sec
is all the campus is paying for. "bandwidth cap" is
somewhat misleading; we're talking about the size of
our pipe. It wouldn't be any different than if we had
a 70 megabit/sec pipe. Our current hardware connection,
if we let traffic run up to it, would give us about another
15 megabits, at a cost of $4500/month. -tom
\_ That's easy. Cut off the fucking dorms from anything but a web
proxy/cache and locally hosted email.
\_ "Every problem has a solution that's simple, elegant, and
won't work." The dorms are already limited to a separate
40-megabit cap. -tom
\_ So total campus bandwidth is 110? Ok, ban it and start
executing p2p users. It's all theft anyway.
\_ Bandwidth to the commodity net. Internet 2 traffic
is not capped, or tapped out at this point. (I think
our pipe is something like 650 megabits). -tom
\_ just cut off their mouse hand.
\_ And in other news, masturbation drops 80% on
campus, survey says.
\_ 70mb/sec =~ 8.7MB/sec?
\_ So the 400ms+ ping roundtrip times are the result of a
bandwidth cap?
\_ they are the result of us hitting the limit of the bandwidth
we are paying for, yes. -tom
\_ I suggest taking this to http://ucb.net.discussion |
| 2002/1/22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23633 Activity:nil |
1/22 Is there a site that compares percentage of users of various browsers
(Netscape vs. IE, vs. Mozilla, etc)? Thanks. |
| 2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23582 Activity:nil |
1/16 Mconst, is nlynx like links? if not is it just a newer rev. of lynx?
\_ I'm sure you have a man page or FAQ for it, no?
\_ you are incorrect. \_ except this part. |
| 2002/1/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23522 Activity:moderate |
1/10 Is Netscape 4.79 better (e.g. more stable) than 4.78? I'm using 4.78
and I want to see if I should upgrade. Thanks. (I don't want 6.x and
I already have IE.)
\_ 6.x != mozilla. me, I'd try mozilla. -chialea |
| 2001/12/31-2002/1/2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:23421 Activity:moderate |
12/31 Anybody know what's going on with the National Park service web
site? http://www.nps.gov It used to be the most complete web site on
national parks and now it's gone. What the hell?
\_ I think it's a GWB VRWC conspiracy. Soon it'll point to
<DEAD>www.evil_white_men_in_office.com<DEAD>
\_ Hacked by Chinese!!!
\_ The ENTIRE Department of the Interior (which includes the NPS) was
disconnected from the Internet by court order on December 5th (the
result of a lawsuit against the government for poorly securing DOI
computers handling Indian trust-fund accounts). If you visit
http://www.doi.gov it'll tell you that the only Interior bureau currently
allowed to connect to the Internet is the USGS. -- kahogan
\_ I'll bet this was a Bush appointed judge.
\_ Needless to say, the systems found so insecure the DOI had
to be forced off the net were windows based...
\_ http://forum.fuckedcompany.com/fc/phparchives/search.php?search=usgs
\_ Does it only apply to only HTTP or does it apply to everything
including e-mail? |
| 2001/12/24-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:23361 Activity:high |
12/24 http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2001/December/01_crm_643.htm WASHINGTON, D.C. Attorney General John Ashcroft announced today that in three separate federal law enforcement actions federal agents executed approximately 100 search warrants worldwide against virtually every level of criminal organizations engaged in illegal software piracy over the Internet. The three Operations, codenamed "Buccaneer," "Bandwidth" and "Digital Piratez," struck at all aspects of the illegal software, game and movie trade, often referred to as "warez scene." \_ Yes, and? So? \_ "worldwide". -John \_ Yeah, and, so? \_ The FBI is never going to stop warez. Warez is copying Office from your work machine to use at home. Warez is giving a copy of a game you bought to your friend. There is no way they can prevent this. \_ I'm so sick and tired of you hacker terrorists stealing MSOffice from work. When will you figure out that you're causing billions of dollars of damage to the economy every year? \_ Stoping acting so cheap Bill. \_ Woohoo! \_ According to Microsoft, it's OK to install a copy at home, at least under the Select program. -tom \_ Yeah like how many did that? More like small company or \_ Don't worry, as soon as StarOffice 6 comes out of beta, I'll be uninstalling MSOffice (my legal copy). department in large company owns one copy and a cd writer. \_ tom, don't you work for UC still? doesn't MS still dump all their sw on you for free? for now? \_ Yes, I work for UC, and no, MS doesn't dump software for free, except on the EECS department. -tom \_ You mean you don't know anyone at EECS? Your dept actually pays MS for software?? \_ I know plenty of people at EECS, but no, my college doesn't violate software licensing agreements, even with Microsoft. -tom \_ Don't worry, as soon as StarOffice 6 comes out of beta, I'll be uninstalling MSOffice (my legal copy). \_ yeah and reinstalling OfficeXP when you get annoying .xls and .doc OfficeXP files that use PKI in interesting ways. I can't even find o2k in the stores anymore! \_ Sun needs to put way more money and time behind SO before it is good enough for casual use. \_ Money? It's open source dude! The Community will just scratch that itch! |
| 2001/12/18-19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:23289 Activity:high |
12/17 Has anybody gotten java+konqueror to work on freebsd? Any hints?
I really just want to play some applet games.
\_ IE 6.0 on W2k. Unix for servers. Windows for surfing and games.
What's so wrong with that? Why are you busting your head open
trying to force a great server OS to be a shitty desktop OS?
\_ Haven't played with Konqueror, but am getting close to it, since
I'm finding Mozilla under WindowMaker just too fucking instable
for any sort of use. -John
\_ Have you gotten java to work with Mozilla?
\_ I can't even get the 1.1.8 port to work (independently
even... kinda crappy). |
| 2001/12/17-18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23278 Activity:very high |
12/17 My mozilla crashes more often than netscape4, arrgh!
\_ konqueror.
\_ use IE on osx or vmware
\_ OmniWeb on OS X is pretty good too.
\_ opera, the fastest browser on this earth.
\_ uh. bullshit. i bet ns3 is faster. or w3m.
\_ lynx.
\_ w3m beats lynx hands down. Its much faster,
renders frames correctly, handles https properly,
and is much smaller (code and binary size).
\_ I prefer lynx. It is easier to read text
and move around with.
\_ wget or telnet $host 80
\_ Sure because it doesn't render pages half the time.
\_ Mozilla is YA OH (overhyped) OSS POS project. It is
no surprise it sucks.
\_ And, in the YMMV category, it crashes much less for me
(particularly ns4's annoying "you closed a window? kaboom!")
To boot, while it's slower for simple pages, it loads really
complicated nested table pages much much faster. --dbushong
\_ I haven't been able to get Java to work under Mozilla. I'm running
FreeBSD and clicked to download the Java plugin but it doesn't
\_ I thought the jdk1.3 had issues with freebsd???
install properly. Has anyone had this problem? (not really related,
but while we're talking about Moz, I might as well ask). |
| 2001/12/11-12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:23214 Activity:very high |
12/11 http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html \_ http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3lje5o%24n7h%40agate.berkeley.edu \_ Does "Usenet newsgroups" mean all the newsgroups I can see when I run trn? Are there newsgroups that are not Usenet newsgroups? Confused. \_ It means Usenet groups before the big re-org. talk.* and net.* stuff. It doesn't have my 1985 posts, but it does have some 1986 stuff I wrote... It scares me. \_ Say, what newsgroup did the Ahm/Blojo incident happen in? \_ ucb.erotica.sensual, but I can't find the exact original posting, just aftermath signs such as: http://groups.google.com/groups?start=100&hl=en&group=ucb.erotica.sensual&selm=4a1t98%24nk0%40agate.berkeley.edu http://groups.google.com/groups?start=100&hl=en&group=ucb.erotica.sensual&selm=frrawx7xfx.fsf%40sigma.veritas.com Anyone have the original ahm/blojo postings archived? -alexf \_ http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22tawei+liao%22&hl=en&scoring=d&rnum=8&selm=58t1r7%241ev%40agate.berkeley.edu \_ is this for real? real or not, did it work? \_ http://www.ereview.com/archive/tawei Status: single Must not have worked... \_ Hmm...what happened to Tawei? He was quite a character. \_ http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3ljdjg%24mu6%40agate.berkeley.edu http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=31jp6o%24oc2%40agate.berkeley.edu http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2ron5j%244iu%40agate.berkeley.edu |
| 2001/12/5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23142 Activity:low |
12/5 Today I tried to login to http://mail.yahoo.com via the secure page, and Netscape complains that the certificate that the site has presented does not contain the correct site name. What's wrong? \_ It must be Carnivore. The FBI is reading your mail and triggered a netscape bug. Turn yourself in. |
| 2001/11/25-26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23097 Activity:high |
11/25 How do I disable pop-ups in mozilla? I tried looking on the
mozilla web site but couldn't find anything. Thanks.
\_ http://mozilla.org/projects/security/components/configPolicy.html
\_ This site says to put the line
user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.open", "noAccess");
into prefs.js. However, in .mozilla/<user_name>/mz7te8m/prefs.js
there is a line that says it is a generated file that I shouldn't
modify. Modifying the file to add the user_pref("...") line
doesn't seem to stop popups.
\_ It Works For Me. you may be in fact using mozilla
as user "default" - modify .mozilla/default/<hash>/prefs.js
and you have to restart mozilla for changes to take effect.
\_ perhaps this depends on your build. I just installed 9.6, and I
use: user_pref("dom.disable_open_during_load", true);
but when you insert this into prefs.js, you need to be all the
way out of mozilla. If quick launch is running in the background
and you start a session, it doesnt seem to reload your prefs.
\_ All browsers: turn over javascript. Few real sites use it anyway. |
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