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| 2001/4/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20991 Activity:high |
4/16 I have system command and I have windows98. I want to install w2k
and use SC to switch between the two. Is it possible to install
my applications in a standard partition and have both OS see them?
Since most apps dumps DLLs all over, does this mean installing the
program twice? Once from w98 and another from w2k? Is this even
possible? Thanks.
\_ It is possible. Installing app twice, save yourself many headache.
\_ It isn't worth it. Just run win2k and be done with it. And you
don't need SC to switch. Use the w2k boot loader/switcher. Why
do you think you'd still need 98 after 2k is installed?
\_ Games, certain DVD players, certain CD-RW players, etc.
-crebbs (who doesn't have win98 installed ANYWHERE)
\_ Most games work under W2K, unlike NT. In fact, I haven't
run into a game that doesn't work under W2K.
\_ Name a game published in the last 3 years that won't run
under w2k. Which DVDs and CDRWs dont have w2k drivers?
I've got a DOS 1.1 game that will run under w2k.
\_ i think connectix virtual game station is 9x-only.
\_ Sounds like a registry nightware just waiting to happen. The
windows registry isn't the binary equivalent of /etc/* files.
It needs to be feared and respected.
\_ Oh please. FUD. I've done it. It just sucks installing all
your apps twice. If you insist on doing this, however, I suggest
that you not only install all apps twice but create a second
Program Files directory. So you'd have C:\Program Files *and*
C:\Win_98Program Files or whatever suits your fancy. For the
FUD mongering clueless, each OS stores the registry files in a
different location. If you don't know wtf you're talking about,
please just don't. The better answer is just install w2k and
let it manage the boot loader process (see c:\boot.ini) if you
absolutely must switch back to win98 for some obscure reason.
Note that when installing w2k, you need to keep the disk as a
FAT32 partition. There are win98 drivers to use NTFS but you
can't have your win98 boot partition on NTFS.
\_ I've done it too and ended up in a whole world of pain.
This is highly application dependent. Most games,
MS Office and Netscape are good candidates for apps
that can be installed twice. The fact is that if you
change the registry in one os and not in the other
damage can and will occur. You can not say that
installing twice will work in the general case. |
| 2001/4/10 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20932 Activity:nil |
4/10 dave winer warns on m$:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/09/technology/09HAIL.html |
| 2001/3/20 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:20851 Activity:very high |
3/19 So, i have discovered what i'm sure is a buffer overflow in
an application server my company uses. I can crash my server
and send random stuff to the kernel. However, I'm not a coder
(just a Sys. Admin.) so i can't really determine which part of
the garbage i'm sending gets executed. If i had more foo,
perhaps i could figure it out but... My question is, who, if
anyone, should i tell? (I am thinking of dropping everything
and figuring out what i need to, just to see my name on a CERT.)
\_ "fu", not "foo"
\_ your fough is week, old man.
\_ Which OS? I'm sure that if you're using Linux or {Free|Open|
Net}BSD you could probably get a backtrace somehow. If you're
using a comercial OS you won't be able to pin down the exact line
number in the source code but you might be able to gather
some amount of info that might be useful.
\_ Solaris on a Sparc.
\_ truss(1) is your friend. But how do you know that you
can really execute arbitrary code? Are you sure it's
more than DOS? And is it a bug in the app server or
the applications themselves?
\_ I guess i don't know if it is a bug in the app
server or the app. (that's a good point, i've
been giving our java guys too much credit). I'm
convinced it is a bona-fide Buffer Overflow because
stress testing didn't just cause it to time-out or
crash, it effected everything. BASH started saying
things like "cannot execute binary file" if i typed
hostname, exiting out of bash i'd get a "Sytax error
at line 1: ( unexpected" when i tried to do something
exotic like type "ls" (basically "echo" was the only
\_ Wow. Painful. Is this BEA?
\_ No, believe it or not, this product is worse.
\_ Freeware? or IBM?
\_ I'm guessing its IBM. They have lots of documented
buffer overflows.
command that worked). I couldn't even log in from
the console. I had to stop-A and reboot.
\_ You've made my day... Mistaking process or VM
exhaustion for security hole... That's 31337.
\_ Sometimes people can't just jump above their heads. Get over it.
\_ Find a copy of smashing the stack for fun and profit (just do
a search on google). Writing a buffer overflow isn't that hard.
It shouldn't take more than an evening of work. |
| 2001/3/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20830 Activity:moderate |
3/16 A good way of testing a machine I have built from parts
is to recompile the linux kernel continually for days.
What's something similar I can do in win98/win2k ?
\_ Play Unreal single-player for days.
\_ See if it boots.
\_ for basic multimedia stuff, running the DirectX diagnostics might
be sufficient (dxdiag.exe) |
| 2001/3/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Misc, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20761 Activity:nil |
3/11 What features does an OS need to qualify as a soft-realtime OS? I
only know that it needs to be pre-emptive. Thanks.
\_ Take a look at:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/realtime-computing/faq |
| 2001/2/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20701 Activity:high |
2/26 Back in 96-97 Netscape declared war to M$ by implementing their own
troll desktop/file-browser/OS front-end on top of Winblows system. Kinda
like Windows on top of DOS6.0, but instead you'd have Netscape Desktop
on top of Windows 95. What happened to that project?
\_ M$ won the war. |
| 2001/2/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20660 Activity:nil |
2/22 Could someone outline the steps you need
to do to take a dvd movie and cram it into an
mpeg in linux or windows?
\_ get a vob extractor, get a vob to mpeg encoder. |
| 2001/2/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20653 Activity:insanely high |
2/22 Let's do a political-OS correlation poll. I am a:
Democrat and Linux user: .
Democrat and Un*x user: ...
Democrat and Mac* user: .
Democrat and Windows* user: .
Republican and Linux user:
Republican and Un*x user: ...
Republican and Mac* user: .
Republican and Windows* user: ..
Kook-third-party and Linux user: .
Kook-third-party and Un*x user: .
Kook-third-party and Winderz user: ..
If you're neither Democrat or Republican or don't use the above
listed OS we don't care about you. (Un*x includes Linux, any BSD
but OS X, Solarix, IRIX, HPUX, etc... Mac* includes any OS made
by Apple and Windows* includes any OS made by M$).
\_ can we vote multiple times?
\_ sure why not. but most of all, which OS do you prefer.
\_ Technically MacOSX counts for both Un*x and Mac*.
Shouldn't you also have a column for LinSUX since
its not really Un*x? (BSD, IRIX, HPUX, Solaris were all
derived from System 7 UNIX from AT&T or SVR4, but LinSUX
is not (minix)).
\_ Fine. But all Mac users tend to be an island of their own
so I'm going to consolidate them on one line.
\_ No! If you allow that argument, then you could say that
NT should count as Windows and Unix, since it's Windows on
top, Unix (*cough* supposedly) underneath, and nothing but
bugs and instability in between. -bcm
\_ You are a twink. Windows NT (WNT) was built on top of
VMS technology. M$ hired the core VMS team from DEC
and then renamed thier work WNT. WNT is like UNIX in
that it runs (just barely) on a computer. In all other
aspects it is the resurection of the worst bloated blithe
DEC ever produced.
\_ the story i heard from a severe VMS nut was that
there were two main peole responseible for VMS originally,
and MS hired one of them, but not the other. supposedly
WNT was VMS like, but there were alot of missing aspects
because of the missing half of the team. just a story.
the guy who told me the story was as much a VMS nut
as people here are BSD nuts, and he never used NT.
\_ I hear it is windoze on top of VMS -ausman
\_ but what criterion do we use for "prefer"? If I had to use one
OS I would use Windows, simply for the software and hardware support.
There are many things you just can't run without Windows, from games
to certain CD-writing software. I'd "prefer" something like MacOSX,
minus the goofy GUI, and minus the reliance on Apple hardware.
\_ You don't have to run the "goofy GUI" if you don't want to.
Personally, I find the ability to watch a quicktime movie play
underneath a transparent terminal *really* cool.
And Apple Hardware is quite nice. None of that config/jumpers
and memory address shit like on PCs. Also G3/G4 is *much* faster
than x86 (the ability to retire 3 instructions/cycle rather
than 1). I prefer my *supercomputer* to your x86 toy.
\_ no config? no memory addresses? gee, i guess programs run on
telepathy? and 3 instructions/cycle is relevant why??
\_ Windoze includes MS-DOS!? |
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| 2001/2/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20647 Activity:insanely high |
2/22 Come on. How hard could it be for some X savy Gnome lover out there
to script up a "minimize all"? It was the best think about windows
98 and after 3 years i can't find it for my linux box (i've searched
a little but not a huge amount so point the way if i just missed it).
\_ use win98 then, foo.
\_ Serves you right for using a shitty window manager with a shitty
OS. Personally, I use TWM or a toned down afterstep. GUIs are for
little boys.
\_ TWM is not a GUI?
\_ Yes! A fellow twm user!
\_ who besides programmers and sysadmins do you really think
uses a command line interface anymore?
\_ People who want to get work done and not play with themselves
all day changing "themes"? Oh wait, you're a linux user,
\_ he said as much.
right?
\_ he said as much: "my linSUX box"
work where you do -Sys. Admin.
\_ hey Dummy, "He" wasn't The Original Poster.
(and i knew this thread was likely to jump-start
the then fresh motd, but this is more than i had
hoped for) -TOP
\_ programmers know how to use a command line? Boy I'd like to
work where you do -Sys. Admin. (TOP2)
\_ i wasn't trying to make some coder v.s. sysadmin point,
i am neither. I use NT because the comercial software
that does what I need that is easy to use is written for
nt. I think most artists and writers use macos,
and most non-computer related engineers use NT,
\_ Uh, no. As an electrical engineer and ASIC
designer, you don't use NT. All useful CAD
tools are written either for Solaris or HPUX
(and in some cases Linux). You won't find
Synopshit or Cadence tools for NT (at least none
worth using). As for advanced civil, aerospace,
geological, or automotive engineering they rely
on IRIX machines to do any relevant work. Lets
see you do complex fluid dynamics simulation on
your NT box. Only E28 AutoCAD weenies use NT.
and you're average home user is on 98 or 2000.
I'm not saying this a s a holy war starter, just an
observation. all 99% of users out in userland care about
is ease of use, number of useful software products,
and convenience for getting on the web, and that's it!
\_ Not sure what software you are talking about,
but I find NT to be a POS for anything remotely
network related. No inetd, no named, a shitty
web/ftp server, crappy userland (MKS and UWIN
and CygWin suck), no rcp, ssh barely works,
no nfs, no appleshare, crappy browsers, broken
ping and traceroute, shitty version of telnet,
crappy kernel threads. I could go on, but you
probably don't care because you can get 30 FPS
in Q3A in NT and that's all you care about in
word workds? I really am curious.
an OS.
Even LinSUX is better than NT.
\_ look. try to imagine that you are a mechanical
engineer who designes jet ingines for boeing or
something. All you need to do is use AutoCAD to
make drawings and matlab to do simulations and
calculations. that's all. anything else you
do at work is either offline, like talking to
co-workers and doing pencil and paper calculations
or is essentially time-wasting, like surfing the
web or fiddling wiht your screensaver. why do
you care what OS is running autoCAd and matlab,
as long as they work? or tell me whay a writer
who never typesets anything but text, and makes
regular backups to zip, cd and hardcopy from word
which she runs on macOS gives a damn as long as
viewed with lynx.
word works? I really am curious.
\_ I stuided ME, so don't give me this shit.
My dad has been a practicing ME (with a PE)
for 30+ yrs and designed stuff for the
Space Shuttle. They totally care what OS
they are running. Try doing a complex
Finite Element analysis or stress anaylsis
on a WinNT box (even a 4 way Xenon) and
you will be sitting there all week praying
that it doesn't crash half way through.
You need a real computer with a real
OS to do this sort of work. Prefered
OS are Solaris and IRIX on Origin 2ks.
The same is true of almost any kind of
numerical analysis that MatLab is used
for. I worked on airframes for SST prototypes
and no NT machine could crunch our data
in MatLab within a acceptable period of
time (two days) and an acceptable level
of accuracy (it screws up on x86, but not
on Sparc or MIPS).
BTW, I've also written books and you are
right about MacOS. I wouldn't use anything
else for writing (I tried Windows and LinSUX).
I like MacOS, I can open up a few SSH terms
and work on REAL computers, whilst retaining
a reasonably friendly GUI environment.
Windows can't even do that.
\_ OK, ME was a bad example, and i hereby
admit to talking out of my ass about what
a mechanical engineer actually uses in
aerospace, but I think the point still
holds for a large number of profesions. for
*any* profession, you care about what is
available to do your job, not os holy wars.
if the best hardware platform for you simulations
were a cluster of apple IIgs's networked with
OS/2, I claim that's what you would use, even
if you hate IBM and apple and have some silly
quarel with the individual programmers involved
in writing the os. as far as i can tell, most
of the linux vs *bsd vs solaris dispute is
a matter of issues that are largely personal.
\_ for most people who run it at home, its
a matter of taste. I prefer *BSD and Solaris
because they seem "professional".
LinSUX still seems like a toy.
\_ sun almost everyone is cli. Used to work at cisco,
it was 75% there.
\_ I love it when sys admins get a fat head and start
acting superior. It's really cute. Maybe you should
research the companies or positions you're interested
in before applying, bonehead.
\_ I've found most coders know how to use a command line
just enough to cause themselves trouble. I prefer my
current job where the coders don't pretend to know
anything outside their c/c++/java/whatever. The
smartest people are the ones who know their limits.
--not the same sysadmin as above
\_ Hmm. Maybe I'm very fortunate then -- most of
coders I work with are pretty command-line
savvy. <shrug>
\_ You are a dumbass. My porn and my stock charts look crappy when
viewed with lynx. -TOP
\_ But dude, there's all sorts of kewl ascii porn out there
and the stocks are just numbers and symbols. WTF is wrong
with lynx for that? You need a gui to see your stocks drop?
\_ soda [~] % locate squick.vt
/home/digital/ari/squick.vt.gz
/home/digital/coganman/pub/squick.vt.gz
/home/sequent/payam/squick.vt
/home/sequent/runes/squick.vt
\_ Minimize all is a major factor for you? Dude. You suck.
\_ So when another OS or GUI has it, it isn't an important feature
but when your religion has a feature someone else doesn't have,
then it's a critical issue? RIDE BIKE! USE LINUX! KNOW GNOME!
\_ GROW UP!
\_ That's my point idiot. Being religiously dependant on such
stupid crap is...well...stupid. You suck even more for
making it a religious issue. |
| 2001/2/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20583 Activity:high |
2/12 I just read CERT Advisory CA-2001-03 and it seems that there
is a new email virus out there, but it seems to be windows
specific. I don't quite understand how a email message can
be a virus? In general, do they exploit buffer overflows in
the viewing program to start executing thier image rather
than the viewing program? How does this work?
\_ A lot of the windows ones are visual basic scripts auto-executed
by MAPI mail clients, or stupid users who click on them. Most
of the email ones I've seen lately dump a bunch of hex strings
into a file and run the ensuing binary which infects a bunch
of files and/or sends copies of itself to people in your
contact lists/address books. -John
\_ This one is just an executable; users tend to double-click
on it, which runs the program.
\_ So, this "virus" doesn't require any real coding
skill or OS/App knowledge like the Internet Worm
of the early 90s? Glad I don't use WinBlows.
\_ Nope. These viruses depend on the idiocy of the
user for their survival. And since there exists
a plethora if idiots in the Windows world these
\_ Sir Hilfinger talking about condoms? *shudder*
viruses tend to spread quite rapidly.
\_ Love him or hate him, he's right about the
"sandbox" concept. It's not new since Java already
does it but it's a good safeguard against even
the most idiotic of users:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~hilfingr/security.txt
\_ There's quite a plethora of idiots using real
OSen now too, but not enough to start the avalanche
of idiocy that the media calls a "virus" these, and
not enough with root access to cause real damage.
However, their numbers are quickly growing, and
the next big hole in RH may start an epidemic.
\_ So what if a virus takes out a RH box, based
on the level of people using RH these days
its just like a virus taking out a WinBlows
box.
Recent RH releases remind me more and more
of WinBlows. Gnome is just as ugly and slow
as M$'s offerings. RH without a gui is okay,
but no where near as good as v 4.2.
\_ A well designed OS (I'm not saying one
even exists) shouldn't depend on having
its superuser being a security expert. The
its superuser be a security expert. The
users shouldn't be a reason of it to
fact that there are a lot of newbie RH
users shouldn't be a reason for it to
schmos on soda to have root access without
be vulnerable. If it was well designed it
should let people like me and 98% of the
schmos on soda have root access without
the worries associated with system
administration. People still need to own
and take care of their own machines. You
can't expect every one of them to take a
sysadmin certification course, read 20
O'Reilly books on security, and constantly
monitor CERT advisories.
\_ Agreed. I find OpenBSD goes pretty
far in this regard.
\_ Actually, these viruses depend on the greed of Microsoft
for their survival. It is unquestionably dangerous to
execute code received by email, yet Windows mail programs
do this for you if you simply double-click on them. And
it is well known that if you send 100 people, even
literate ones, such an executable, at least some of them
will click on it. So a well-designed mailer won't
auto-execute (or offer to auto-execute) stuff that's
potentially dangerous. And in the Microsoft world Java,
postscript, and PDF are about the only things that aren't
potentially dangerous (they even mis-designed Word to the
extent that you can embed worms in it!).
so where's the greed part come in, you ask (as opposed to
simple stupidity)? these vulnerabilities have been well
known for over 20 years, and have been plaguing Microsoft
customers since the advent of the Microsoft Network. Yet
they haven't fixed the problem (until recently). I believe
it's part of Microsoft's strategy to force everyone to use
Windows software by encouraging folk to mail everything
around in Microsoft proprietary formats. Look ma! It's
so easy to use! i can just send Word documents or even
programs to my friends and they can just run them! and
those poor folks without Windows can't ... guess they'll
have to convert.
oh, the recent change i mentioned-- if you download
the latest security patch to Outlook (i think), it
absolutely prevents you from running all manner of Mo'soft
exeuctables: .bat, .exe, .vbs, .com, ad nauseum.
\_ Anyone thinks we can put together a civil lawsuit against
Micro$oft for this?
\_ Easily. It will cost millions though and probably
end up just being a publicity stunt. A great one,
though. |
| 2001/2/8-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20537 Activity:high |
2/7 How does one start internet explorer (or netscape) on windows
using java? I've tried something like:
Runtime.getRuntime().exec("netscape <DEAD>www.someurl.com"<DEAD>
but this doesn't work. TIA.
\_ what error do you get? perhaps you need to specify the path
to the netscape/ie exe files? There might also be a way to get
the system to launch the default browser (perhaps with the Windows
start command?)
\_ java.io.IOException: CreateProcess: netscape.exe error=2
java doesn't like spaces in the path name to the executable,
and on different systems, these executables might not be using
the same exact path.
\_ http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/qow/archive/15/index.html
\_ I tried their suggestion e.g. "start iexplore <DEAD>someurl"<DEAD>
but this didn't seem to work, but I figured out something that
will work:
"cmd.exe /c start iexplore <DEAD>someurl"<DEAD>
without specifying iexplore or netscape bringing up the
browser is much slower.
\_ This doesn't leave an ugly dos box behind on the screen?
\_ DOS is not UGLY!
\_ it's also not technically
a DOS box, since the original
poster is clearly using NT.
\_ It's a DOS box. Thanks for
your input.
\_ Just on startup for a moment, then it goes away.
\_ for the lazy:
String[] s = {"cmd","/c","start","iexplore","<DEAD>sex.com"};<DEAD>
Runtime.getRuntime().exec(s);
\_ I think the better way to do this is to use the Windows API. There
should be a Java binding to the WinAPI out there. You should call
ShellExecute on the file.
\_ thx, I'll look into this.
\_ Its pretty easy to write a JNI wrapper for the one or two
functions you need. I've done it before for futzing with
the registry from java. ----ranga |
| 2001/2/7-9 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Computer/SW/RevisionControl, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20531 Activity:high |
2/7 Any recommendations for Windoze NT/2000 backup software,
where each user keeps their files on local disk?
\_ Windoze is not recommended.
\_ Yech.... Legato I guess but why would you let users keep local
files? Your issue isn't backup software. It's the way you run
your system.
\_ What strategory would you suggest?
\_ What strategory would you suggest? Obviously I can force
everyone to compile files on a shared file system, but
this would make our programmers feel corporate and they
wouldn't like that.
\_ They can compile anything on anything they like but I
suggest either: store source on remote disk and set up
compiler to write all objects, etc, locally or much better
would be to use a revision control system like perforce
or others that have been discussed previously on the motd
and just backup the perforce server. Anyone stupid enough
to never checkin their code deserves to get fucked.
\_ Wrong. source control systems are meant to store
revisions, not to be used as primary backup systems.
\_ Duh, I didn't say it was a backup system. I said
you're backing up your revision control system
instead of dozens, hundreds, or however many desk
tops. Try reading before posting. Thank you for
playing "sysadmin for a day". Come back next year.
I wouldn't want to be the guy to answer to the VP
of Engineering when he asks why half his code base
went poof and you can't restore it. "It's a
revision control system, not a backup system, so I
didn't back it up". That makes no sense.
\_ Read my post again, hacker. I said they should
not be the PRIMARY backup. They are secondary
to having a PRIMARY backup of people's local
files. What you suggest is the easy way out.
\_ What I suggest makes it more likely the
files will get backed up even when people
turn off their machines at night. |
| 2001/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20481 Activity:high |
1/31 Wow, I just found out my company's software got cracked by crackers.
A bit disheartening, but got me thinking, is there any commercial
software out there that has been found to be uncrackable?
\_ Just found out? The moment the software was published it was
cracked. Probably took someone about 30 seconds between sips of
Coke and Oreo cookies. And no, if the whole binary runs on the
local machine it can be cracked. You can make it really annoying
but that only increases the challenge for the crackers and makes
your paying customers really pissed off. Software protection is
only good to keep the casual pirates at bay and doesn't even do
that very well. Let it go, move on. They wouldn't have paid for
it anyway.
\_ Any non-commercial? Or are you trying to say only non open-source
software can be cracked?
\_ open source software can be commercial
\_ I have yet to see a successful crack on Mathematica. But the
protection scheme really sucks since the password changes based
on your hardware config (hard disk size, ethernet card #, etc)
I paid for the software but found its copy protection mech
really annoying.
\_ Only idiots release software with copy protection.
\- what do you mean by "cracking MMa"? i got around the licensing
stuff in 1988 or so with adb. --psb
\_ Incidentally, there is a working crack to Office 2000 SR-1.
\_ Why do you need to crack Office 2000? Just install the same CD
onto tens of machines.
\_ Please read: SR-1. Come back and try again.
\_ I see. What does SR-1 have that prevents someone from
installing on multiple machines?
\_ Apply the SR-1 patch and see for yourself. The
less destructive approach is to look for articles
on Whistler's anti-piracy scheme, which was rolled
into the SR-1 update for Office 2000.
\_ Only idiots release software with copy protection. People who
are inclined to pay for software will, those who are not will
go to http://russiancd.com or something and get fully cracked versions
for $50.
\_ Our software sells for $29.99. That would be dumb. -orig poster
\_ Okay, what I ment is your software + all M$ software +
all Adobe Software + Oracle 8 + AutoCad + ProE + your
favorite software for $50 from http://russiancd.com
\_ It isn't about price. And anyway, your software and 20+
others are getting squeezed on the same CD for $9.99. |
| 2001/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20480 Activity:moderate |
1/30 In NT, when I try to open or delete a file and it says "The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another process",
is there a way to find out which process is using the file? Thx.
\_ lsof
\_ handleex.exe, http://www.sysinternals.com
\_ Is Filemon from the same site better for this purpose?
\_ reboot
\_ That won't find out and it also won't release the file if
the file is opened again at startup or login. If you
don't know what you're tal-- nevermind. It's the motd.
Go right ahead.
\_ If you don't know, you're Tal. -- talg #1 fan.
\_ chill. the answer is meant as a joke.
\_ This is Berkeley. That wasn't funny. |
| 2001/1/26-27 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20439 Activity:high |
1/25 Do most games now support Win2k/NT or do you still need 95/98/ME?
Is the first clause equiv to asking if most games now use DirectX?
\_ No, they're not equiv because NT won't run recent DirectX games.
\_ NT4.0 does up to directx3 which is all old stuff.
\_ I've been using my Apple IIc to play "Montazuma's Revenge" for
months and it's worked dandy. Never crashed once.
\_ No, they're not equiv because NT won't run recent DirectX games.
\_ NT4.0 does up to directx3 which is all old stuff.
\_ Running w2k with nvidea gforce 2mx card, pentium 3, direct 8.
So far all games work fine but I don't play FPS games so YMMV if
that's your thing.
\_ Well, there's minesweeper for w2k (don't believe there was a nt
Starcraft.
version), so i'm happy.
\_ Pinball is kinda cool too.
\_ My friend didn't listen to me and he installed ME instead of w2k.
His computer crashed 6 times in a night while trying to play
Starcraft. "ME is a piece of crap and bill gates is a con man!"
was his conclusion. "ME even crashes just sitting there after
boot up!" was his latest observation.
\_ i play starcraft and/or RA2 all the time on ME and never crash
-shac
\_ I just installed ME on my system, and it hasn't crashed yet.
I think it depends a lot on how you treat the system.
\_ Totally. Have you ever tried speaking nicely while
watering your plants?
\_ I don't water my plants. Who has time for that?
\_ If your computer crashes randomly after boot up you
really need to look at whether your motherboard is
messed up. Overclocking, overheating CPU, bad mobo, bad
memory. Then again if it worked fine in Win98/95 then
eq
it's probably not your hardware.
\_ I did suggest to my friend that maybe it was a
hardware problem, but he said that linux ran just fine.
\_ linux != windows.
\_ linSUX has a higher toleration for some types
of PC shit like OC'ing, bad ram, etc.
\_ Random crashes while the box is doing nothing are almost
guaranteed to be hardware problems. And by nothing, I
do mean nothing. You don't have any random toys running
in the background doing god knows what while talking to
Real's servers. |
| 2001/1/25-27 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20433 Activity:high |
1/25 Non-preemptive model automatically implies cooperative model right?
Whereas preemptive assumes OS control anytime (e.g. UNIX).
\_ Can non-preemptive model include models with no multitasking at all?
\_ Yes. It can include a 'program loader model' which is what MSDOS
uses.
\_ Think I could get a few bucks for my MS Dos 1.0 bootable
floppy on ebay from some computer history collector freak?
\_ Don't be gay.
\_ Don't be stupid. It's a valid question even if
you're too young or moronic to see that.
\_ Don't be gayer. |
| 2001/1/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20333 Activity:very high |
1/15 On NT/Win98, how do you add "notepad" for example in the
"Send To" menu. MS Help is useless.
\_ C:\windows\SendTo
It's not a trivial thing for a consumer to use, so it's not
in MS Help. God forbid consumers muck around in c:\windows\.
\_ For NT/2000 SendTo is in the user's directory. - mikeym
\_ That works for Win95/98. For 2000 SendTo is in the
user's directory. - mikeym
\_ Remember that Send To is hidden in the user
profile.
\_ how do you make it visible in Explorer?
\_ Poster didn't ask about w2k.
\_ Poster also didn't ask for asinine comment.
\_ so stfu
\_ isn't it the same under NT(4) as under 2K? I think it's
also the same under 9x systems that are configured for
multiple users.
\_ How many versions of Windows are there??
\_ I think the "current" versions are 3.11, 95, 98
2000, NT3.5, NT4, ME. Plus there are the server
variants.
\_ 95a, 95b, 95b2, 98, 98se, nt351, nt4sp6a,me,
2ksp1, 3.11, and I don't know the version for
CE and maybe missed a few other 'current'
versions.
\_ its okay. mikeym offers good info. -- original poster |
| 2001/1/12-15 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20308 Activity:nil |
1/12 When I print web pages from IE5 my NT box, JPG images are frequently
cut in half by page-breaks and images that are wider than page are not
re-scaled to fit. How'dya tell IE to change that? Navigator is better
in this area. It might change geometry, though, but at least images
are fully preserved. This might not be a good idea for photos etc but
the things I care about are diagrams or schematics.
\_ You can't. IE wasn't made for printing picture perfect.
Try importing to a Word doc or other printing program. |
| 2001/1/11 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20295 Activity:high |
01/11 If you or anyone you know is running a version of Borland's Interbase
released in the past 8 years, forward the following information:
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/247371
http://www.interbase2000.com
[yes, this is a /. repost; urgency justifies it, as far as
i'm concerned] -alexf
\_ Uh, "compiled into the source between 92 and '94". Does interbase
come as partial source + binaries-with-no-source? What about the
whole open source many eyes thing? If someone can sneak in a back
door account for 6+ years, what's the point of it all? Might as
well use MS products for all the good OS did in this case.
Normally, I'd purge this as /. repost but I find this interesting
although not urgent.
\_ it was not open-source whatsoever until ~6 months ago. being a
huge body of code, it's not too surprising that it took 5 months
to find the backdoor (especially since no one would've been looking
for it directly)
\_ uh, why would anyone be running Interbase. -tom
\_ good question. not my concern. -alexf
\_ My point is, it's not urgent because no one is running
it. -tom
\_ grow up man. the real world won't always conform
to your sense of aesthetics. at your age you should have
learned that by now.
\_ ^no one^no one you know of
there's a large difference between the two
\_ ^no one likely to be reading the MOTD you twink^
\_ ah so tom knows everyone reading the motd (and
everyone else those people know; see original
tom doesn't know me: 3
tom doesn't know me: 4
post). impressive, tom.
Let's try a motd poll --
tom knows me: 0
tom doesn't know me: 6
and if i ever meet the bastartd, ill kick his ass:2 |
| 2001/1/5-6 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20236 Activity:low |
1/4 Any suggestion on where to find open source implementations of
Chinese input methods for English keyboards (free or not)? Thanks.
\_ for what o/s?
\_ No, I need an implementation so that I can port it to my OS.
\_ emacs 20 -pld
\_ Got it, thanks. But I need source code in C.
\_ http://www.register.com has a way to let you register asian language
characters with English keyboards--maybe ask them? -John
\_ http://X.org/XFree86.org
\_ On a related note. Is there such features as spell checking,
grammar and thesaurus in MS Word Chinese version? |
| 2001/1/3 [Computer/SW/Editors, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20223 Activity:kinda low |
1/2 I hate M$, use Linux, and ride bike. Having that said, in Winblows,
I'd like to change my CD-ROM drive to Z drive. However that
will affect all of the installation registry. How do I change them
all?
\_ Use Win2K! Ride SUV! Bow to God Gates!
\_ Too bad. You have to change the references manually in the
registry.
\_ there are a number of shareware utilities that can do perform
search/replace operations on the registry. Search for one on your
favorite shareware site. An alternative is to export the registry
as one big .reg file, do the search-and-replace in your favorite
text editor, and then import it back in.
\_ there are a number of shareware utilities that can perform
search/replace operations on the registry. An alternative is
to export the registry as one big .reg file, do the
search-and-replace in your favorite text editor, and then
import it back in. |
| 2001/1/2-3 [Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20220 Activity:kinda low |
1/2 How do I increase the environment memory size for CMD.EXE (not
http://command.com) on NT? Thanks. -- yuen
\_ What's the difference between the two?
\_ I don't know. -- yuen |
| 2001/1/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20219 Activity:very high |
1/2 While asking Windows question , on NT my drive C has very low space
left, but I have a drive D with much more space. How do I instruct
Windows to install system files (especially those winupdates) onto
the D drive?
\_ you can't. What goes in winnt\system32 goes in winnt\system32.
\_ You can tell winnt to use the D drive for swap instead of C,
that will gain you a fair amount of space.
\_ is that an env. variable? ... ?
\_ no. (under 2K, NT4 might be a little different) :
Control Panel > System > Advanced >
Performance Options... > Virtual Memory - Change...
\_ dd if=C-drive of=drive D, fsck it, installboot, then modify
/etc/vfstab to use new partition, run eeprom to boot off
drive D. Next reboot will automatically use new disk. |
| 2000/12/22-25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20159 Activity:low |
12/22 Does the VC++ debugger have a feature like the conditional
breakpoint in gdb? Basically I want to say something like
"ignore this breakpoint unless X". Also, how do I look at
the value of foo[i]? When foo is a pointer the debugger just
lets me dereference foo, but that only gets me foo[0]. Obviously,
I'd like to use a real OS, but the company I consult for is
addicted to Windows. Thanks. -emin
\_ Anyway, something more helpful:
VC++ does let you set conditional breakpoints. First set where
you want the breakpoint, then press ALT-F9 to edit breakpoints.
Select the breakpoint and click the Advanced button. Various
other options are also available. Accessing foo[n] is possible,
(via watches) but foo[i] is more difficult... it depends on the
version of VC++ you have. --chucky
\_ Windows is good for you if you're an idiot. See axiom 1. |
| 2000/12/19-20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20134 Activity:nil |
12/18 I've been looking for a web site on the historical price/yield of the
30 year treasury. Yahoo only goes back 5 years. And after spending
an hour on google didn't help either. anybody know? Thanks!
\_ i haven't checked, but possibly http://www.motleyfool.com
\_ Try http://MSN.COM
\_ b
\_ zuul |
| 2000/12/17 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:20104 Activity:insanely high |
12/16 I need Windoze software that will prohibit my employees from
visiting specified web sites on the Internet (like http://cnn.com).
This should be server software, so that I do not have to run
out and install it on all the workstations. Does anyone have
any recommendations?
\_ route -add -reject <subnet> or route -add -blackhole <subnet>
on your border router.
\_ Yeah. Eat shit and die.
\_ what company? I'll build a site serving a mirror of http://cnn.com
(i.e. a simple solution to your stupid policies)
\_ Thanks, but all I really want is plug-and-play Windows software.
\_ The easiest thing to do is point their DNS entries to 127.0.0.1
or your corporate intranet or something. Do it on the DNS you
have their workstations pointing to for name resolution. All
childish "the information wants to be free!" Berkeley idiocy
replies removed. --graduated from Cal and joined real world
\_ I can point my machine at a different DNS server by
editing /etc/resolv.conf or whatever, thus a rejecting
route or a blackhole is the only soln.
\_ no. You can't. Why not? Because you're a non-techie
at a large company with a no-surf policy and you don't
know jack shit about that. If it were a unix box you
wouldn't have root at this person's company.
\_ Thanks, but I do want to let them access most web sites
except ones I exclude. Is there a plug-and-play solution?
\_ Yes. Like I said, you add things like http://cnn.com to your
local DNS as something else. Everything else works.
\_ The easiest solution is to get a switch and a proxy server
that can do transparent redirection of http requests to force
them all through the proxy which does filtering. (Set up one
with enough space to do caching and you'll also lower bandwidth
usage and increase access speed.) Look at products from companies
such as Alteon, Foundry, and Cisco on the switch side, and
NetApp's NetCache or something similar on the proxy side.
\_ Why? Do you like pissing your employees off? Are you trying
to convince them all to quit?
\_ Not all companies are like that. Not everyone can go get a
better job in 24 hours. Obviously these are windows no-techie
8-6 slaves there to do what they're told and nothing more. These
people are entirely fungible. |
| 2000/12/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20034 Activity:nil 76%like:19830 |
11/16 How to reboot a windows 2000 machine (prob. same as nt) from a |
| 2000/12/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:20021 Activity:nil |
4/250 http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/courses/451/00au/overview.htm \_ isn't UW where Andersen went? \_ Yeah, that's where the High Priest of NACHOS is spreading his unholy gospel now. \_ nice. \_ didn't they do this at one time here? \_ bharvey taught it in bsd one semester. it has not been repeated, and repetitive begging and pleading did not sway him into teaching it again (nor will it ever). current OS faculty adj worked with msft to get a grant for laptops for his research, and has personally ported nachos over to win9x so you know where his interests lie. \_ and has explicitly stated to me yesterday that (1) there will be NO laptops in 162 next semester and (2) the *nix environment will without question still be supported no matter what. -alexf \_ you mean solaris, not unix. There sure wasn't a 3.x freebsd port for it when I took the class, and I think the Great Unnamed one has the only working linux ports. Fact of the matter is that adj _spent_ time porting over nachos to windows, to secure msft a foothold in the teaching curricula in 162. His intentions are clear. \_ this is beside the point. why are they using nachos anyway? Obviously other universities have no need for an abstraction layer between the student and course material. \_ stanford uses nachos, as does mit. Having worked on nachos I knew more about how a system works. look at the projects, they are jokes. |
| 2000/12/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/Ocf, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19995 Activity:moderate |
12/4 XCF on Salon (sorry for the /. posting):
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/12/04/xcf/index.html
\_ also on http://slashdot.org
says, it cannabilised Undergraduate Comp Facility
but led to the formation of OCF.
if XCF dies, perhaps OCF could take over its property? ;)
\_ hahahah you'll have to pry the 200Mbit nettaps and PIII
coppermines away from Vadim's cold dead hands before you touch
it.
\_ Don't go there. You'll regret it.
\_ that article is worthless as an XCF newsposting. it doesnt even
mention vadim - when the ugrads get moved to elsewhere, vadim will
still be in soda. Why don't you check out vadim.[cs|eecs].berkeley.edu
there is no xcf, there is only vadim.
\_ and eric
\_ "Always there are 2, a master, and an apprentice."
\_ spencer!!!!!!!!! --chris |
| 2000/12/1-2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19964 Activity:high |
11/30 I have admin. rights on my NT box at work. I don't want the damn NT
admins mucking around with my box. Is there a way to keep them from
doing things to it (e.g. updating software) over the network? -unix
admin.
\_ Unplug your network cable.
\_ Won't help if they have console access. Dual boot OpenBSD and
NT. Use OpenBSD exclusively. Just let the luser NT admins boot
NT to do thier shit.
\_ tcp wrappers
\_ remove Domain Admins from Administrators group
\_ Cant you go to the Users & Passwords control panel and remove
the domain administrators access privledges to your machine?
[all bullshit answers removed. -motd NT truth god]
\_ obligatory real os post is not bs.
\_ edit "User Rights" policies. |
| 2000/11/22-25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19895 Activity:nil |
11/22 In NT, the Task Manager displays the amount of memory currently used
and the CPU % utilization. Is there any tool for Win98 that displays
the same info? Need to profile some software. Thanks. -- yuen
\_ There's a bunch of third party ones. Try <DEAD>tuwcows.com<DEAD>. I don't
know if MS has released one. Uhm, hmmm, there is a non-dyanmically
updating tool from MS that provides some info and a bunch of other
random stuff but I can't recall the name. Not in real time anyway
though so I don't think that'll help you. Try tucows.
\_ wintop (in Win95's KernelToys package) shows you the cpu
utilization for different processes. doesn't show memory use though |
| 2000/11/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW] UID:19877 Activity:nil |
11/21 I'm trying to write a function that edits a file in place, ie
use fseek to position the file handle at a particular place
and then use fwrite to write a number of bytes. When I perform
the fwrite, any content in the file beyond the end of the number
of bytes I write is lost. How do I prevent this? |
| 2000/11/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19830 Activity:nil 76%like:20034 |
11/16 How to reboot a windows 2000 machine (prob. same as nt) from a
command line or script?
\_ There's something in the resource kit that's probably
better than all the free/shareware that's supposed to do this.
\_ I have the NT4.0 resource kit with the reboot command in it. I
haven't tested it on my w2k box, but you're welcome to try. I
ask for 3 things: your email address so I can send the attachment,
that you let me know if it works, and you don't give out my address
to anyone. I get enough spam. |
| 2000/11/17-19 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:19816 Activity:low |
11/17 where'd rz/sz go? I need my zmodem fix
\_ source code: ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/zmodem/rzsz.zip
\_ the version of rz/sz that we have installed installs itself as
lrz and lsz.
/var/db/pkg/lrzsz-0.12.20/+DESC:
This program uses error correcting protocols to send/receive
files over a dial-in serial port from a variety of programs
running under PC-DOS, CP/M, Unix, and other operating systems.
lrzsz is derived from the last unrestricted verison of Chuck Forsberg's
rzsz package. lrzsz is covered under the GNU copyleft.
WWW: http://www.ohse.de/uwe/software/lrzsz.html |
| 2000/11/15 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19784 Activity:high |
11/14 What are people's favorite open source download site?
<DEAD>ftp.freesoftware.com<DEAD>
\_ http://www.warez.com
\_ http://www.bigredh.com |
| 2000/11/1-2 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19631 Activity:very high |
11/1 MS Word (on NT/Win98) crashed while modifying a document.
Now, I can only open that file in read only mode. How
do I get rid of the lock? I can't delete the file because
its says I have a sharing violation. Would a reboot help?
\_ Been in a similar situation. I did a control-A (copy all) and
pasted the entire document into another file. I lost some
special formatting but better that than lose the whole thing.
Good luck.
\_ why didn't you just copy the file?
\_ Ya, this guy is dumb. A "Save as" would also have worked.
\_ Nice of the two of you who *weren't there* to tell me to
try things that *didn't work* and then tell me I was dumb
for moving on and doing what *did work*. Next time I
need help with something, I'll be sure to come to you for
the *obvious but _wrong_ answers*.
\_ don't group the two together please. The first
may not have been malicious (the second may just
lack tact). Of course, motd posters are not always
good models of tact.
\_ Why didn't those two suggestions work? As for lacking
tact, you're asking an MS Word question on the motd...
You deserve to be insulted once or twice before getting
a solution, if you get one at all. If the answers were
obvious but wrong, you should have mentioned, "I tried
x and y but they didn't work." Otherwise, people should
assume that you're either dumb or didn't think of the
easy solutions (because you're dumb).
\_ He is not asking a Word question. He answered one.
Giving useful information. Unlike you. --Galen [who
is not any of the above] |
| 2000/10/29 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19593 Activity:nil |
10.29 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/14265.html |
| 2000/10/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19583 Activity:kinda low |
10/27 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20001027/aponline012351_000.htm Microsoft hacked \_ W0W, 3133T H@X0R FR0M .RU 0WNZ M$ \_ S0D@ I5 N3XT \_ Gates is mad because someone is now using M$'s own tatics against \_ Gates is mad because someone is now using M$'s own tactics against it. |
| 2000/10/26-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19569 Activity:high |
1/26 If you click the "save password" feature of Win98/NT, how do
you get rid of any trace of it when you decide to remove that
option?
\_ fdisk
\_ fdisk won't be enough, you moron. It's trivial to restore
a partition table -- the info is still there. You need to do
dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/ntpartition
\_ D00d you're using Win98. How 'bout some nice NT?
\_ Where is a 3133T M1CR0$0F+/C3RT1F13D H@X0R5 when you need one?
\_ Where is a 3133T M1CR0$0F+/C3RT1F13D H@X0R when you need one?
\_ Don't you mean 3133T M$C3 N3TW0RX G0D?
\_ Keep in mind that erasing the file does not erase the data. On most
hard disks, complete eradication of original data requires 5-10
writes to that same spot.
\_ wipe hard drive with large magnet
\_ It depends on what program is doing the remembering, but you
will have a <username>.pwl file in the \WINDOWS (\WINNT)
directory --sowings
\_ Keep in mind that erasing the wet spot does not erase the data.
On most dresses, complete eradication of original data requires
5-10 wipes to that same spot.
\_ Install it as mail spool disk for my ISP. They will make sure the
disk is busted and none of the data recoverable. They will also
make sure they do not make any backup tapes of the disk.
\_ gooooooOOOOOO EPOCH!
\_ To be on the safe side, overwrite the disk with random data
five times. |
| 2000/10/21-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19541 Activity:nil |
10/20 How can I create a DLL under VC++ that exports a bunch of
symbols that are forwarded to another DLL? e.g. Under
Windows NT, "dumpbin /exports wsock32.dll" shows that most
of the functions exported by wsock32.dll are actually
forwarded to mswsock.dll exports of the same name. How do
I do this? Obviously the intention here is to write a
wrapper DLL for something, where you have a few custom
functions, and the rest just get forwarded to the wrapped
DLL.
\_ Just create a DLL with "wrapper functions" that call those
functions in the DLL you want to "forward" calls to. |
| 2000/10/21-22 [Computer/Domains, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19539 Activity:nil |
10/20 whois http://microsoft.com \_ whois http://aol.com \_ whois http://apple.com \_ whois whitehouse.gov \_ pointP \_ nothing special about pointP. |
| 2000/10/16 [Computer/HW/IO, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19494 Activity:nil |
10/15 I'm running NT 4.5 and it binds the middle mouse button to that
scrollbar thing. Is there a way to disable that? This is creating
problems with my reflection X xterm windows. I can't copy and paste
and paste and left and middle mouse buttons! Thanks. |
| 2000/10/16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19493 Activity:nil 53%like:19479 |
10/15 Is Windows ME worth upgrading over Windows 98 OSR 2? Also how
do you tell if you're using OSR 2? |
| 2000/10/14-16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19483 Activity:moderate |
10/14 is there a way to make Windows 2000 minimize all
windows on startup since I hate having all my
previous open folders pop up when I restart
\_ why don't you just close all your folders when you shut down,
or am I missing something here?
\_ Don't reboot. Oh, oops, this is Windows we're talking about.
\_ Witty. Not. Actually, Win2K has yet to crash on me. It's
at least infinitely more stable than 98/ME/NT in my exp.
\_ Hmmm. . . Inf * 0 yields. . . NaN
\_ lol! lol!
\_ Windows Key + M will do it all quickly, if that helps.
\_ I thought that's the default? That's the way my office desktop is. |
| 2000/10/13-16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19479 Activity:nil 53%like:19493 |
10/13 I have Windows 98 OSR 2. Is it worth upgrading to Windows 2000?
Any compatibility issues with games?
\_ lol! If there's anything to upgrade for you, it is Windows ME.
not Win2k. Win2k are for Business Environment. For regular home
users, it'll be an overkill.
\_ lol!
\_ lol! Don't listen to these sons of goats. Win2k is fine for
most newer games. lol!
\_ lol!
\_ Win2k has loads of compatibility issues with games - it's just
not a gaming environment.
\_ Also won't work with your random cheapo peripheral (think:
webcam, funky sound input card, etc etc) |
| 2000/10/5-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:19417 Activity:moderate |
10/5 How do you disable telnet to require only ssh?
\_ go to http://www.openbsd.org and look for the install instr.
\_ rm -f /kernel
\_ depends on your OS. For most of the modern unixes you can
just comment out the telnetd line in /etc/inetd.conf
\_ And send a HUP to inetd. I forgot to do that once...
\= killall -HUP inetd
\_ only if you're using a sun, jon. ;)
\_ Actually it's pkill on Solaris (7+) -alan-
\_ its in /usr/bin on FreeBSD
\_ or REBOOT!
\_ go back to your NT box.
\_ 95! 95! 95 is the standard OS! |
| 2000/9/26 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19326 Activity:kinda low |
9/25 For DOS programmers, is there a version of Borland C 4.5 (or any other
version for DOS) run-time library that has a qsort() routine that
works with huge pointers (__huge *)? Thanks.
\_ Watcom does. You're fundamentally not going to get clib routines
from a compiler which doesn't support flat-mode memory access like
Watcom does with DOS4GW. |
| 2000/9/26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19325 Activity:nil |
9/25 What's the syntax in NT command prompt to redirect both stdout and
stderr to the same file? (I asked this before and I thought the
answer was "command 2>&1 > out.txt", but it doesn't seem to work
anymore.) Thanks.
\_ command > out.txt 2>&1 |
| 2000/9/21-22 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19304 Activity:moderate |
9/20 My Web page is getting an excessive number of hits from a
particular domain. What's a good way to block it?
\_ ipf
\_ Talk to your web server admin or read your web server docs.
\_ ACL on your router
\_ /bin/rm -rf $apache_dir $http_docs_dir
\_ OK I'll forward that request to root@csua right now
\_ use windows! |
| 2000/9/19 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19291 Activity:nil |
9/18 Windows Me! Everybody buy Windows Me! Show those linux and Apple
freaks what superior products from Microsoft are made of. |
| 2000/9/18-19 [Recreation/Computer, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19279 Activity:high |
9/18 Just for fun: Two ropes take exactly 60 seconds to burn. Both are
of different lengths and both burn inconsistently. Using only those
two ropes and a match, measure exactly 45 seconds.
\_ Burn,burnburn; block; burn; block
\_ burn,burn,burn;burn (a faster bersion)
\_ How many seconds faster is your 45 seconds?
\_ I like fruit loops.
\_ Job interviews huh? Answer is on a <DEAD>.eecs.berkeley.edu<DEAD> web site.
\_ Answer: On a chilly night, trade the two ropes and the match with
some pan handler down at Shattuck who happens to have a working
watch.
\_ what does burning inconsistenly mean? So the "velocity" of the fire
of the rope is random?
\_ For example, it might take 40 seconds to burn halfway through
the rope and take 20 seconds to burn thru the 2nd half
\_ First you fill the 5 gallon jug. Then you turn on the middle
switch for a while and then turn it off. Duh. -geordan
\_ You forgot to carry the troll across the bridge.
\_ Actual Microsoft questions /csua/tmp/usoft if you're interested.
\_ #9 is funny, because I actually had one of those cube calendars
at home when I was little, before there was MS-DOS. |
| 2000/9/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19236 Activity:nil 50%like:18664 |
9/12 What's the equivalent of "myCommand >& out_and_err.txt" in NT? Thanks.
\_ myCommand >out_and_err.txt 2>&1
\_ he said NT, fool. not sh.
\_ NT is in complete without ksh and UWIN. David Korn's only
redeeming contribution to computing.
\_ It works in NT, my good friend. There's even command-line
completion in NT4.
\_ It works somewhat, but the output from stdout and stderr are out-
of-sync in the .txt file. It seems like the output from stderr
always comes before the output from stdout in the file, even
though the output from stdout is generated first. Thanks again.
\_ flush your stdout buffers if you expect strict ordering.
\_ But I can't change the .EXE that I want to run (no source
code), so I can't add fflush() calls.
\_ get 4nt (http://www.jpsoftware.com then try your command. |
| 2000/9/10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19218 Activity:insanely high |
9/10 No, I don't like Bill Gates and WinBlows. However, I really need it
cuz of the apps that run on it. The question I have is, is Win2K
worth it over Win98? Please don't post 'format, get FreeBSD/Linux' Thx
\_ will someone port cakewalk already?
worth it over Win98? Please don't post 'format, get FreeBSD/Linux' Thx
\_ the IT people where I work said that it is still too unstable and
buggy to switch to(they won't support it.) thay said that it will
be an improvement when it has been debugged, and that they will
"let us know when it no longer sucks".
\_ This is the traditional "Wait until the Service Pack answer".
For mid- to large-size corporations this is true (Active
Directory is hard to configure). If you're small, the benefits
from Win2K far outweigh consequences, compared to WinNT4.
\_ Yes, if you're not paying for it.
\_ I agree.
\_ format. Install FreeBSD/Linux. Install VMware. Run Win98.
\_ clarification:
Win2000 = new version of WinNT
WinME = new version of Win98
(where ME stands for Mellinium Edition)
Why they switched their naming convention to have their "server"
OS go from letters to numbers and desktop OS to go from numbers
to letters is beyond me.
\_ Quite simple - Win2000 was supposed to be the "unifying"
release for everyone to run. Then they saw how completely
unusable it was for most home users and had to come up
with a new name for ME, which was supposed to be the last
"consumer" release, but they're now working on another
version for 2001, currently code-named "Whistler", and the
Great Unified OS dream has been put off several more years.
\_ not being able to track memory leaks in
Win98 drives me insane.
Win2k has stability and is easier to admin.
The only problem is with the lack of good
driver support.
\_ Not being able to track memory leaks in
WinNT4 drives my cube mate insane. Muhahaha! |
| 2000/9/5-7 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:19174 Activity:kinda low |
9/5 Anyone ever compiled nvi for windows, or know where one can obtain
a binary? I am sick and tired of using vim.
\_ tried winvi yet? I think its cute and it even has a binary editor
mode. -ERic
\_ I want to run vi from bash. I don't want a stupid full-featured
bloated piece of shit like vim.
\_ Uhm, winvi = vim? |
| 2000/9/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19173 Activity:very high |
9/5 How long do most people stay with their companies? Any difference
with hardware and software job nature?
\_ a) 1-2 years, b) Yes
\_ a) 3-4 yrs at a good company (cisco,sun)
\_ a) 5-8 years at Microsoft
\_ Hardware, X years. Software, X/3 years. Funny that hw people need
more education to get the same salary that sw people have.
\_ Funny how SW folks have to work harder when finance and sales
get paid 2x for 1/2 work. |
| 2000/8/26-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19100 Activity:high |
8/25 Is it better to have VMWare on Windows NT hosting Linux, or to have
VMWare on Linux hosting Windows NT? Performance wise, that is.
\_ Is it a question you are trying to ask? Please read carefully
what you wrote and edit it until it makes sense.
\_ obvious correction made. don't be a prick. the motd's got enough
pricks as is.
\_ What? The motd is full of pricks?!! Since when? -ali
\_ prick
\_ prick
\_ What's your primary objective? What applications are most
important? What do they run on? There's your answer. -John
\_ I want to run iis7.2, kde 8.6a, and macpaint.
\_ You don't want VMWare. You want to buy one of those Sony
"my first computer" things in bright friendly shiny
pastel! -John
\_ buy another box.... unless you have 256megs of ram it's brutal
I only use VMWare (on Linux to run winbloze) when i have to...
if you want to run iis, just get a dedicated box or something..
\_ ram upgrade: $100. another box: $1500
\_ VMWare performance on some tasks (CPU and Hardware intensive)
task is really bad. You need a min. of a PII 400 + 256 MB ram
to get useable NT performance hosted under Linux. FOr 98 you
can possibly get away with a 300 + 192 MB ram. |
| 2000/8/24-25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:19087 Activity:nil |
8/23 Can I/How_Do_I find the uptime on a windows 2000 (or NT) box.
\_ Start->Programs->Administrative Tools->Event Viewer. Look for
the last event ID=6009. This event is pretty close to the
boot time. (I only tested this on a Win2k Server box.) -brg
\_ I believe there is an internal command that pulls it, but
I don't remember. There's an "uptime" exe for Win32 which
uses this service. |
| 2000/8/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18848 Activity:high |
8/1 I'm running Win2000 and I just got DSL. If I run a firewall
(ZoneAlert) and turn off Windows networking, is my computer
basically secure? Specifically, do I have to worry about someone
hacking my administrator password?
\_ Turn off drive shares. Dispose of firewall software.
Don't run any servers (ftp/http). Done.
Don't run any servers (ftp/http). Don't run exec attachments.
Done.
\_ Turn off drive shares. Install all MS Windows updates.
Don't run exec attachments. Basically you are now worried
about running something which installs BackOrifice. Otherwise
at this point your windoze computer is very secure in the
hackers-on-your-DSL-line sense.
\_ http://www.dis.org/mrmojo/hacking.htm there are also sites on
the web which will auto-test your security. Oh and btw, rturn
of telnetd, ddns, and any netbui shit.
\_ I don't run any services on mine so I blocked everything incoming
below port 1025. The sharing and other crap I left on for my
intranet on a different NIC. Ports 135,139 (and 137 for 95/98?)
are the MS bite-you ports. I noticed 2k also uses some stuff in
the mid 400s or 500s range as well. |
| 2000/7/31-8/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18829 Activity:high |
7/29 Reposting of Linux question (didn't catch responses before post was
deleted) - If I mount a partition listed as "Unknown," but I mount it
anyways, would the data get corrupted? That is, fdisk -l shows my
Win98 FAT32 partition as Unknown, but I type the following command:
mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/win98
and I'm able to access it. Please don't delete replies till Monday
night. Thanks.
\_ It depends.
\_ What does it depend on?
\_ That depends.
\_ Yes.
\_ Let me guess, you are using System Commander or other bootmgr?
The answer is: you won't corrupt the data. System labels
in the MBR (which fdisk shows) are basically irrelevant;
you can change a FAT label to Xenix and still mount the
partition -- mount doesn't read the partition table. The labels
are used by OSes to automatically recognize partitions in some
cases -- e.g. DOS/Windows needs them, RedHat installer looks
at them, but once the system is setup, all the mount info
is retrieved from /etc/fstab. This is all true, of course,
if the data on your disk isn't corrupt.
\_ Thanks much; no thanks to the wise-asses above.
System Commander is exactly what I'm using. I wanted
to share partitions b/t 98/Linux/2000, and didn't want
to corrupt any data when writing from Linux. Do you
know if Linux can also read and write to NTFS without
corrupting any data?
Which websites / newsgroups are good for Linux
configuration discussions? RedHat's site is a little
hit-and-miss.
\_ System Commander uses the "Unknown" label to hide
partitions that a particular OS shouldn't see.
It's because in some cases (e.g. DOS/Windows on
a second primary FAT partition) the OS gets
confused. Linux doesn't get confused; turn off
the partition hiding option in the Linux boot
config (it's in the menu), and you'll see the real
MBR under Linux.
For sharing partitions, I recommend you use a FAT32
setup which can be read/written by all 3 OSes.
Linux could access NTFS readonly last time I checked;
dunno if they support writing in the latest kernels.
As for support sources... Read FAQs/HOWTOs and
ask on comp.os.linux.setup. After losing
the data on the disk 2-3 times because of some
mistake, you'll understand how it all works. :)
\_ Are there any free newsgroup servers out there?
http://Usenet.com charges $139.65/year!
\_ http://www.deja.com Oh, sorry, you wanted porno.
\_ deja was too slow and I kept timing out.
Who still uses newsgroups to get porno
when you have web pages? Anything faster
(and free)? |
| 2000/7/21-22 [Reference/Law/Court, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18741 Activity:nil |
7/20 Looking for a NT/data recovery expert to do 2-3 days work (ASAP)
as an expert witness for an upcoming trial. Opposing party claims
that all data on its stand-alone, NT-running PC was "accidentally"
erased; the law firm I work for suspects otherwise. Must be (a)
technically capable and (b) articulate, calm, and unflappable (as
you may need to testify at trial). If interested email timothym.
\_ You don't need an expert. If it was accidentally erased, you
should be able to get it back w/ any <$40 data recovery tool.
If not, it was intentional and they burned that file real good.
\_ Fair enough, but *I* can't tell that to a jury; I need
someone with established credibility (EECS degree;
SiliValley experience, etc.) to sway a jury.
Also, evidence that files were intentionally burned may
be admissible in court. -timothym
\_ Has anyone actually attempted recovery? Your expert's
testimony doesn't count very much, otherwise.
\_ Supposedly the user's SA did, but we don't believe his
story. (We've already obtained evidence that this
company doctored some e-mails and documents; they've
got little credibility at this point.) -timothym
\_ Your expert needs to attempt recovery / inspect
the PC, I suppose with the defendant watching.
Call up http://drivesavers.com and see what they say
about the whole thing. Otherwise, yeah, your
expert can comment on the defendant's testimony. |
| 2000/7/14-16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18673 Activity:kinda low |
7/13 In NT, is there a way to make the Start->Document menu never show any
documents, ie. keep it always empty? Thx.
\_ Yes. Delete files in [nt_dir]\profiles\[user_name]\recent\
directory. In Win 9X, delete * in [win_dir]\recent\ dir.
\_ And for kicks create a batch file that deletes them as part of the
login process. Or you could be sneak and change the registry to
point the start->document directory at the trash bin directory.
\_ If you get the TweakUI control panel, you can remove the documents
menu from the start menu or have it cleared every time someone logs
in.
\_ But is there a way to prevent items to be added to the menu in
in the first place?
\_ Make an 'at' job that wipes it every 5 minutes. I don't
know of a registry hack that prevents their being created.
Try setting the save directory to NUL: maybe. Just
guessing on that one. |
| 2000/7/6-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18601 Activity:moderate |
7/6 Linux question: If I have a program (for example PALM
software that synchronizes my computer with my PALM) that
says it only runs under Windows 95, 98, or NT, is there
any way to have Linux on my computer and still run this
program on my computer?
\_ plenty of palm syncing programs for linux out there
\_ Are they free, and are they the same as the Win95 version?
\_ They are free. They sync the palm. It would take you
10 minutes to find them and try them out.
10 minutes to find them and try them out. (Meaning it
has been several years since I had one of those things
and I don't know the details anymore)
\_ Cool, thanks!
\_ Dual-boot or run VMware.
\_ What exactly does Dual-boot mean? Is that when you
partition your hard drive so it has both Linux
and Windows? What are the advantages and
disadvantages of this? And what is VMware?
\_ 1) Yes.
2) You get your choice of OS'es but can only
run one at a time.
\_ Can you access files from either OS, or are
files specific to only one OS?
\_ yes, you can mount your windows partition
\_ Linux can mount Windows parititions, but
Windows can't do linux. Just put all the
files you want to share in a Windows
partition.
\_ Windows can using linux file systems if
Linux is properly configured for it.
3) http://www.vmware.com
\_ Can VMware run on top of VMware, like the way VM on IBM 370 can?
\_ No. Why would you want to anyway?
\_ Because the 370 now runs Linux?
\_ http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?SD=SO&LN=EN-US
Look up dual-boot. Go to some Linux sites with the information
you gain here and read up on installing Linux and Windows
on the same computer. You're in for some fun.
\_ Also, Palm sync program is built-in to latest Solaris 7 and 8.
Versions earlier than that & you can d/l the pack from http://sun.com
Runs fine on this new Ultra 5 with solaris. |
| 2000/7/6-7 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18596 Activity:kinda low |
7/5 I am trying to get internet explorer to download a file. I send
it headers like:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=foo.txt
Cache-control: private
Connection: close
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Content-Length: xx
And then the xx bytes that make up the file. It saves it, but
the browser doesn't recognize that the download is over:
the little globe keeps twirling, and it tries to stay connected.
What do I send it to tell it that the transfer is done?
\_ Just a guess, but maybe the web server needs to close the
connection?
\_ Did you send it correct number of xx bytes? check the RFC or ee122
\_ More specifically, check whether the byte count is post-MIME
or pre-MIME
\_ Some versions of IE have a bug that makes the wait cursor
and spinny logo not go away after the dowload is completed and
the file saved. Try a few different versions of IE and potentially,
different browsers to verify that is/is not what you are seeing.
If you suspect you are hitting it, find sites on the web
that spew files for saving and see if they exhibit the same
behaviour. Workarounds include forced refreshes and the
various 'redirect'n'ftp' hacks you see on download sites. A
good way to check correctenes of lengths/headers/ra ra ra is
to run through a proxy and dump the relevant info to a log. -pvg |
| 2000/7/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:18589 Activity:moderate 64%like:18584 |
7/5 Anybody understand today's dilbert? I don't know what a "loofah" is.
The dictionary meaning doesn't make sense to me in the context of the
strip.
r/4 M$ Word question: I want to create two columns in a Word
document and be able to paste in only side of the text
and still be able to type in the other. Eg;
text comment
text comment
text comment
-MS doofus
\_ make a table. -tom
\_ I could do that, but if I want to paste an entire text
I would have to clip and paste paragrpah by paragraph. Tedious
but do able. -MS D
\_ uh, what are you talking about? you click in the cell,
and paste the whole text. I just tried it, it works. -tom
\_ um...I think he wants to paste into an entire column,
not just one cell in a column.
\_ if the stuff is in an Excel spreadsheet it will
do that. -tom
\_ um... Format>Columns? Or is that too easy?
\_ learn MS Word Basic scripting language
\_ How many times do i need to repeat this answer for all M$ questions:
Download to UNIX machine. Create document columns.
Upload to windows and import into M$ Word.
\_ And to save some dufus the trouble of putting this, i'll go
ahead and put: "But that's not easy for the Windows people
in my office to use"
\_ To which I'll go ahead and reply: "spend the 45 seconds
and make a CGI out of it"
\_ And then I have to support a friggin CGI and host forever.
To which I say, "No fucking thanks!"
\_ uh, if you don't want to support it, you don't have to.
\_ ratbert's offering to be used as a scrubbing sponge. -goetz
\_ Figures, goetz is the only one here who can understand English.
\_loofah is actually Latin, derived from luffa.
\_ in a manner of speaking. it's a 19th-century neologism.
\_ "loofah" is a type of sponge -- it is actually the dried fiber
of a squash-like fruit/vegetable. --chris
\_ Hello Mrs. English Major, Self-Righteous Bitch |
| 2000/7/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18584 Activity:high 64%like:18589 |
7/4 M$ Word question: I want to create two columns in a Word
document and be able to paste in only side of the text
and still be able to type in the other. Eg;
text comment
text comment
text comment
-MS doofus
\_ Microsoft ActiveDoofus!
\_ make a table. -tom
\_ I could do that, but if I want to paste an entire text
I would have to clip and paste paragrpah by paragraph. Tedious
but do able. -MS D
\_ uh, what are you talking about? you click in the cell,
and paste the whole text. I just tried it, it works. -tom
\_ um...I think he wants to paste into an entire column,
not just one cell in a column.
\_ if the stuff is in an Excel spreadsheet it will
do that. -tom
\_ um... Format>Columns? Or is that too easy?
\_ learn MS Word Basic scripting language
\_ How many times do i need to repeat this answer for all M$ questions:
Download to UNIX machine. Create document columns.
Upload to windows and import into M$ Word.
\_ And to save some dufus the trouble of putting this, i'll go
ahead and put: "But that's not easy for the Windows people
in my office to use"
\_ To which I'll go ahead and reply: "spend the 45 seconds
and make a CGI out of it"
\_ And then I have to support a friggin CGI and host forever.
To which I say, "No fucking thanks!"
\_ uh, if you don't want to support it, you don't have to.
\_ Yes, I do. BOFH doesn't exist in the real world.
\_ Press CTRL+SHIFT+F8 to get into "edit block mode" and
use the arrow keys to make your selection. ESC gets
you out. -gabriel
\_ You could use ed. There may be a version for Windos Word from
http://slashdot.org |
| 2000/7/4-5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18582 Activity:insanely high |
7/4 Let's hear it for M$, they finally have an OS that you can change
the IP on without restarting! (how many years after unix?).
\_ The problem is that the general
public (and even some lame computer
folks) don't know that, just like
they don't know that other OS's on PC
supported preemptive multitasking,
long filenames, etc. years before
WinXX did.
\_ You're forgetting to mention
that the "general public" has a
very fuzzy concept of filename,
and is more likely to consider
"preemptive" a Vietnamese dish
rather than a computer term.
\_ Why should they care?
In all seriousness, win2K seems very nice compared to 98 & NT.
However, the install is detecting my HP Nvidia TNT2 pro card as an
NVIDIA GEForce DDR (HP) and won't take the drivers i have
downloaded for the TNT for win2k. Thus i am afraid to continue
the upgrade from 98. Any advice?
\_ W2k is nice(r than other Windows) but you still can't change
from dhcp to static IPs and vice versa without rebooting. Also,
it won't run some of my games that were written specifically for
Win9x. Don't upgrade (and yes, it is a step up) unless you
have lots of disk available. In fact, don't upgrade at all,
just install from scratch. And regarding the TNT2 stuff, I
thought it supported those just fine? -John
\_ have a cookie, troll. -dans
\_ dans, you are so dense, you wouldn't know a troll if it
came up to you and rammed you in the ass. PSB #1 FAN!!!
\_ You are not the -psb #1 Fan. The real one wouldn't reply
to a thread that didn't involve the psb. -psb #1 Fan
\_ This isn't a troll. Just a clueless person who just joined the
late 1990's. Do try to differentiate a bit better.
\_ Actually, it is part troll, part serious praise of
what is a much better product than previouis versions
and a question (still unanswered). I fail to see why you
think i just joined the late 90's though as the topic
is about a product with 2K in the friggin' name and which
didn't have a working version (the beta was a nightmare)
untill this year. -The original poser
\_ Because what MS has 'innovated' lately is what everyone
else was doing years ago. It's like talking about the
latest patch to Amiga OS or the TRS-80. As far as your
particular card goes, if you had the experience you claim,
you'd know that what MS installs isn't important. You
install as a generic VGA and then grab the most recent
stable drivers from the net. *That* is the answer to your
question. You did of course check the MS hardware
compatibility list to make sure your card is supported
*before* you installed, didn't you?
\_ when did trolls start liking cookies?
\_ I coined it earlier this year to amuse myself and it caught
on. Consider it an alumni gift. :-) --troll cookie baker |
| 2000/6/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/HW, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18504 Activity:high |
6/20 Any suggestions for SSH that would work under Win NT/2000 with
a proxy server? Thanks.
\_ What kind of proxy server? |
| 2000/6/19-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18497 Activity:very high |
6/19 Can Linux read NTFS or FAT32 partitions?
\_ I think mandrake 7.0 can, but havent tried it yet.
\_ It's been able to read NTFS for a while now, but I believe that
writing is pretty experimental. I'm not sure about FAT32, but
I think mounting a partition RW is not a problem. -John
Follow-up question: Can Win98 (on FAT32) read NTFS?
\_ Follow-up question: What makes you sure Win98 can read FAT32?
\_ Cuz I'm running Win98 on a FAT32 partition. Is there
something I should know?
\_ Yes.
\_ Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
\_ You're welcome. -motd
\_ Because fat32 is the *_NATIVE_* file system for win98, duh.
What makes you think DOS 2.1 can read FAT16 file systems?
How can I be sure a Mac will read a MacOS disk?
\_ Not without external software. See below. -John
\_ http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stories/info/0,,000OV5,.html
and things like it.
\_ If you (like sadly, so many people these days) said "Linux" to
mean "a free UNIX-like OS", then FreeBSD can mount and r/w
NTFS and FAT32 parts. --dbushong
\_ RIDE BIKE! LINUX = UNIX! LINUX R00LEZ!!!11
\_ Isn't Solaris Sun's version of Linux? -geordan
\_ Wanna see something scary? Go to Fry's and look how many
Linux boxes have the Sun logo on now. |
| 2000/6/8 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18427 Activity:nil |
6/7 http://www.msnbc.com/news/417461.asp \_ dont you love "unbiased" polls that claim 79% of people dont thing microsoft should be broken up? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/us/0006/microsoft.decision/full.decision/main.html \_ Whoa! It's on http://MSnbc.com. It must be true! What they didn't say was that every MS employee voted before it went to the public. |
| 2000/6/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:18391 Activity:moderate |
6/2 I'm looking for open source unix ware to create a web based email
archiving service. It should allow people to sign up/remove remove
themselves and have a threaded message archive. Some sense of user
levels would be nice, too, like anonymous people can only read the
archive, but 'registered' people can do whatever, and an admin level
who can delete messages. The number of registered users is going to
be under 20 and never grow above 20 or so. Performance isn't a big
issue. This is a personal project. Thanks for any pointers!
\_ you seem to be describing a web based newsgroup like slashdot
more than you are a web based email service. if that's the
case just go to http://slashdot.org. they have their entire source
code (called slash) published online under gpl.
http://www.slashdot.org/code.shtml
\_ I want archives based on incoming mail. The web interface
is only for reading old email archives in threaded format.
I don't want slashdot. Email comes in to some majordomo
like handler, gets archived on the web pages, and gets sent
out to the correct list of folks on the list. If there's a
web interface to archived majordomo email that would
probably do the trick.
\_ Do you mean something like hypermail?
\_ I might. Got a URL? Thanks!
\_ http://www.landfield.com/hypermail |
| 2000/5/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18310 Activity:nil |
5/21 Given: C++ code [VS6] that has access to all video output of another
windows box. Need to capture this into some common video format. Have
absolutely no clue as to how to approach the problem; any first
pointers to libraries, where to look for such, and/or background
reading (if necessary) would be much appreciated.
\_ "video for windows" is the place to start, i think. search for
it in your vc++ help files. |
| 2000/5/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18309 Activity:high |
5/21 I'm running RedHat 6.0 and I would like to increase the swap
space to more than 128 MB. How would I do this? Thanks.
\_ 6.2?! You fucking loser! 6.2 has been out for weeks!!!! UPGRADE!
\_ 6.2?! You fucking loser! 6.2 has been out for weeks!!!! UPGRAD
\_ 6.0?! You fucking loser! 6.2 has been out for weeks!!!! UPGRAD
RIDE BI.. Install Linux! Linux install party! Woo hoo!
within an ext2 partition. Use dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024k
\_ If you don't have any unused partition or unpartitioned disk
space on your drive then you'd need to create a swap file
within an ext2 partition. Use dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=102
count=128, to create a 128MB file filled with 0's .. use
mkswap command to create a signature at the beginning of the
file to make it a valid swap file. Use swapon command from init
scripts to activate this swap partition (or may be you could just
Windows! RIDE BIKE! dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024k
count=128... wow! Totally intuitive! Woo hoo! Seriously,
put this in fstab?, I am not sure). Use "free" command to see if
this swap file is getting used. -akopps
\_ No way! This is too easy! Much better than running MS
Windows! RIDE BIKE! dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=102
count=128... wow! Totally intuitive! Woo hoo! Seriousl
the Linux crowd really needs to get it together if you
want to be taken seriously and not just an IPO stock hype
machine.
\_ Actually it was really easy (thanks akopps). It only
took me a few minutes to set up. I guess you could
claim hat LINUX is non-intuitive because I had to
ask the motd for help. Although, on Windows I would
have to hunt around for the right stuff in the GUI
and then reboot the machine once I've made the changes.
So yes LINUX rewlz, Windoze drewlz. --original poster
\_ The difference is that under Windows even you
could have figured it out without motd help, a
resource unavailable to 'most people'. So, it
would appear the only thing drooling around here
is the original poster of this thread. |
| 2000/5/18 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18289 Activity:nil |
5/16 In emacs 19.34.6 for NT, if I bring up a .BAT file containing this
line:
if exist foo goto bar
I get an error "No match 2 in highlight (2 bat-keyword-face)". But
if I change the line to "if exist foo echo bar" or "if not exist foo
goto bar" the error doesn't occur. Any idea? Thx. -- yuen |
| 2000/5/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18235 Activity:high |
5/10 I am getting a PC to play games, run quicken and surf the net.
Should I specify Win 98 SE or Windows 2000 (no price difference)?
Would Windows 2000 give me the same functionality but a little
more stability? My current Win95 system crashed way too often.
\_ Win98SE if you want to play lots of games. Not all games
work under W2K.
\_ My experience dual-booting both has been that 98 is less
unstable than W2k. Even IE is flakey under win2k...
\_ Are you mad? 98 is total crap. w2k has issues but
nothing like 98. 98 is _only_ good for games. I disabled
the net for my 98 install because it's such a POS. Most
games will do ok under w2k, but not all. As newer games
comes out, more and more will run under w2k.
\_ My experience is Win2K is much stabler than 98/98 SE.
I never want to go back to 98 again.
\_ Also keep in mind that there are 98 programs that may
not work correctly on W2k so you may be out of luck until
they put out an update. Personally I'd stay with W98SE
unless there's a reason you want W2k.
\_ Buy the playstation 2 for games. Don't buy a PC. Buy
a Mac for surfing the net and running quicken.
\_ The playstation is only good for twitch games. There are
tons of non-twitch games for the PC that don't exist for
the PS and probably never will. The Mac? Stop trolling.
\_ macs rule. pppplllllt! |
| 2000/5/8 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18202 Activity:nil |
05/08 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22suck+ass%22&meta=lr%3D%26hl%3Den&btnG=Google+Search |
| 2000/5/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18166 Activity:high |
4/33 My brother is a MCSE looking for a job in the LA area. Anybody
know of a good contracting agency in LA? He's looking for an
entry level NT admin position. Thanks.
\_ I love how people think that these certifications actually
mean anything. "ooooh. He's Microsoft certified. He must
be competent."
\_ Good Sodan, you are preaching to the choir.
\_ I assume you mean LA as in Los Angeles rather than LA as in
Louisiana?
\_ Yes, (s)he really means the Lousiana area ...
\_ Duh? Spent more than a week in California?
\_ giggle.
\_ tee hee.
\_ wow. Cherry Poptart on the motd.
\_ LA sucks. the only ppl who live there are like lame ppl..
oh right, MSCE certified...
\_ help! i'm feeling, like, sooo lame today. but the sucking helps.
\_ email your resume to kinney@csua i hear he's hiring asp/web
ppl.
\_ Whoah. Yu guyz doo ASP. Dats RAD dude. Ware Kan eye ketchup
to da bleeeding edge man? -tjb
\_ Quit defaming his once good name. He can do that himself.
\_ Good name? The day the playboy interview comes out and she
lists "Berkeley Computer Losers" under her 'turn ons' list,
is the day, uhm, uhm, well nothing, it would never happen. |
| 2000/4/28-29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18141 Activity:nil |
4/28 Microsoft gets smacked:
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,2557484,00.html
AFAIK, this is just a recommendation. What is the likelihood that
it will be carried out? -dans |
| 2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18056 Activity:kinda low |
4/18 winNT question: everytime my NT stations boots up it sets up the
local hard drives as shareable. I have to manually set each drive
as not shared. Where can I set this so that I don't have to do that
everytime I reboot the box? Thanks.
\_ Delete the shares.
\_http://www.ntfaq.com/ntfaq/network21.html
\_ I have heard rumors about a commercial package existing that fixes
some of the most stupid and glaring NT holes, including this one.
I don't recall what it's named, though. Also, I'm told by one
of my NT-admin colleagues that there are some tools in one of the
NT accessory discs you get with an MSDN subscription which let
you fix this en masse. Or you can just edit the registry. -John |
| 2000/4/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18029 Activity:high 80%like:18026 |
4/16 Is X-windows (enlightenment) moderately deficient in key-bored
short-cuts or am I moderately deficient in knowledge? If the
latter, someone please direct me to a resource.
\_ since when did x-windows and enlightenment become synonymous
\_ since when did x-Files and millenium become synonymous
with each other?
\_ since redhat became synonymous with linux
\_ Doh, this is a relatively innocent claim considering
that there are some companies that claim that they
are the "dot" in "dot com" and there are people
who actually believe them.
by looking at all the top dots
\_ there is only one that claims that. Justify
by looking at all the top dots. Justify by looking
at competitors. Then again, it's not a big part
of their business, but it's a good marketing catch-phrase.
\_ try looking at the enlightenment configurer thingie. You can
\_ When you're most of the market it isn't a hard
is a file somewhere in .enlighenment that you can hack if you
claim to make. As if anyone important has heard of
your KewlWarez linux distribution. Anyone smart
isn't using linux anyway.
\_ try looking at the millenium configurer thingie. You can
the Mac one (though much less nice looking). Isn't it
define your own shortcuts to do just about anything. Or there
is a file somewhere in .millenium that you can hack if you
enjoy that sorta thing. -darin
\_ A GUI like windows? i find it amusing that the linux crowd
so badly wants to be like the OS they so despise.
\_ Not even. Besides, Microsoft created a GUI like
the Mac one (though much sh*tier looking). Isn't it
amusing that the Windows crowd so badly wants to
be like the OS they so despise?
\_ You're about 15 years out of date and anyway, the
Mac wasn't the first anything.
\_ Well, I don't think the Mac people hide the fact
that they ripped of Xerox Parc. I don't think
Xerox Parc cared either. They invented almost
everything significant today but never bothered
to do anything about.
\_ I thought Microsoft invented windows?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented the mouse?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented ethernet?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented streaming video?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented VisiCalc?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented WordStar?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Lotus 1-2-3?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Java?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Netscape Navigator?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Ingres?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented the Operating System?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Virtual Memory?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented the BASIC language?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented the Atari 2600?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented the Palm Pilot?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented Sendmail?
\_ I thought Microsoft invented UNIX?
\_ Microsoft did. You just do not realize it, yet.
\_ Microsoft will claim they did. All the above stuff
got invented(mostly) at Cal, Stanfurd, MIT,Xerox
Parc, Bell Labs and the Bay Area, and has been
stolen and exploited by Bill Gates. |
| 2000/4/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18026 Activity:very high 80%like:18029 |
4/16 Is X-windows (enlightenment) seriously deficient in key-board
short-cuts or am i seriously deficient in knowledge? If the
latter, someone please direct me to a resource.
\_ since when did x-windows and enlightenment become synonymous
with each other?
\_ since redhat became synonymous with linux
\_ When you're most of the market it isn't a hard
claim to make. As if anyone important has heard of
your KewlWarez linux distribution. Anyone smart
isn't using linux anyway.
\_ I was simply specifying my manager (see below) -orig.Pster
\_ try looking at the enlightenment configurer thingie. You can
define your own shortcuts to do just about anything. Or there
is a file somewhere in .enlighenment that you can hack if you
enjoy that sorta thing. -darin
\_ A GUI like windows? I find it amusing that the linux crowd
so badly wants to be like the OS they so despise.
\_ Not even. Besides, Microsoft created a GUI like
the Mac one (though much shitier looking). Isn't it
amusing that the Windows crowd so badly wants to
be like the OS they so despise?
\_ You're about 15 years out of date and anyway, the
Mac wasn't the first anything.
\_ Mac was first GUI to be succesfully marketed.
From then up to iMac, Apple's lived or died
by marketing, not technology. Unfortunately,
the same is true for MS, and they were much
better at marketing but worse at technology.
\_ technology? what technology? it's all
marketing. but according to b.g. "the
best is yet to come". maybe we'll see
some technology soon coming from redmond.
\_ That's just more marketing. Why do you
think MS is finally going to innovate
something? They didn't need to in the
past but suddenly feel like good
samaritans? What for? Research costs
money and that hurts their bottom line.
They don't need to invent anything.
\_ Research creates patents that you can
beat people/other companies over the
head with.
\_ MS doesn't need patents to beat
others over the head with. They
have very few.
\_ Windows sucks because it is unreliable and poorly
designed, e.g. crashes all the time and needs to
be restarted all the time The U.I. for windows98
is much better than any XM.
\_ I've never been able to configure enlightenment to,
say, RaiseLower with a shift-mouseclick. In fact,
I couldn't find any mouse-based shortcuts at all.
I thought that that was such a deficiency that I
decided not to use it.
\_ X-Windows has no keyboard shortcuts at all. X-Windows is just
the display layer - all user interface is from the programs that
sit on top of it. This is what makes it so incredibly configurable.
\_ This is a fairly useless answer. It seems clear
that he was talking about the enlightenment window
manager specifically.
\_ Yes, but this is explaining why next time he should
just ask about enlightnment instead of the way he did.
\_ You have a brain. Use it, instead of acting literal
\_ Actually i am glad to have the info. I did not know
it but did know there was a diff. between X-windows
and enlightenment. I phrased the question the way i did
because it is the X-mngr i was using, i suspected
that short-cuts would be a function of the XM, but i
have not noticed any keyboard ShrtCts in any XM. I
am not married to Enlightenment. -orig.pster
\_ twm and it's many derivates all allow you to bind
any WM function to any key or mouse button or
mouse-modifier key combo. Sames for mwm/CDE.
\_ The program you want is e16keyedit. |
| 2000/4/12-13 [Academia/GradSchool, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17988 Activity:moderate |
4/12 Cal grad makes /. news!!
\_ Not just a cal grad; it's spence! -pld
\_ XCF loser you mean.
\_ link please?
\_ Hmmm, just goes to prove not everyone reads slashdot
http://www.slashdot.org |
| 2000/4/12-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17987 Activity:low |
4/12 Is there a way to make NT run a certain .BAT file everytime it boots?
\_ yeah, what ever happened to autoexec.bat in NT? I think it is still
there right?
\_ You can make your changes in autoexec.nt and config.nt located in
c:\winnt\system32.
\_ I think not. From CONFIG.NT:
REM Windows NT MS-DOS Startup File
REM
REM CONFIG.SYS vs CONFIG.NT
REM CONFIG.SYS is not used to initialize the MS-DOS environment.
REM CONFIG.NT is used to initialize the MS-DOS environment unless a
REM different startup file is specified in an application's PIF. |
| 2000/4/11-12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Finance/Investment] UID:17970 Activity:moderate |
4/10 Do any of you know any way (even 133+ registry h4kz) to get
Win98 Second Edition to alphabetize the fucking folders in the
start menu? I can see how to change the order of the individual
sub-menus, but not the overall one. --sowings
\_ Do you mean the first menu that opens after pressing the Start
button, or the Programs menu?
\_ I don't think you can change the first menu (the one with Shutdown
and Run...), but all menus after that are alphabetizable like all
other submenus.
\_ No, they don't, and that's the problem. Note that I said
Second Edition; it behaves differently. --sowings
\_ My OEM 98 SE copy works correctly. You're right-clicking and
dragging right?
\_ I have 98SE. Right clicking and selecting "Sort By Name"
does the trick. Yes, this is on the first menu from Programs. |
| 2000/4/11-12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17964 Activity:low |
4/10 Yes, this question was probably asked before: In emacs or using
a unix command, how do you quickly convert those ^M when you
copy things from WinNT/Win95 to Unix.
\_ tr -d \015
\_ replace-string, ^Q, ^M
\_ If you have it on your system, dos2unix
\_ 1) don't use windows
2) use ascii mode when ftp'ing files |
| 2000/4/5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17924 Activity:nil |
4/5 "In response to today's ruling, Microsoft President and CEO Steve
Ballmer said: "As Microsoft continues to innovate, we recognize
that industry leadership brings both opportunities and
responsibilities. Our mission and success has come from the
incredible benefits that Microsoft and Windows creates for
consumers and for thousands of other companies, while operating
our company based on a set of values that include integrity,
innovation, customer-focus, partnership with a wide range of
companies, an entrepreneurial culture, encouraging and supporting
our people, promoting a diverse workplace, and giving back to the
community."
\_ so they are going to play the "squish us, and you squish the
industry and lots of economy, and oh, BTW - it's an election
year..."
Also, from CNN:
"However, Jackson did not agree with the government's allegations
that Microsoft's marketing arrangements with other companies
constituted unlawful exclusive dealing under the law."
\_ so what else is there? They used uncompetitive tactics in
the browser wars? Oops, but that fight is over. Oh well.
Whose wrist should be slapped?
\_ Read the conclusions. Just because they had arrangements
with ISP's and OEM's to prefer IE, doesn't mean it was
"exclusive dealing" under the law, because it was still
possible to get Netscape through other means (over the web). --oj
\_ They claim they are being responsible to the society? What? They
think they are IBM or Xerox? |
| 2000/3/30-31 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17891 Activity:nil |
3/30 ".. BugNet tests have verified that once the magical 52nd IP address is
reached, without any warning or fanfare, Windows 2000 Server Active
Directory misplaces all of its directory objects. "
- http://www.msnbc.com/news/388430.asp |
| 2000/3/30-31 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17885 Activity:moderate |
3/29 So here's something interesting. With linux or freebsd, once i boot
from my usb floppy drive (the bios has the usb driver) i can't use
the usb floppy without any additional kernel configuration. BUT..
with windows 95, when I boot into dos, I can access the floppy with
A: and the hard drive with C:. I don't think win 95 carries USB
support. I'm trying to figure out why this is happening?
\_ Just because the BIOS supports it, it doesn't mean that the default
linux/freebsd kernel will invoke the BIOS. -oj
\_ Windows >> Linux
\_ Win95 OSR2 has incomplete support for USB
\_ WINDOWS. USE WINDOWS. WINDOWS IS RAD CUZ WE GETZ TO PLAY RAD
GAMES AND STUFF MAN. |
| 2000/3/27-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17871 Activity:nil |
3/27 How do i make win2k browse samba shares?
\_ Same as before.
\_ This was answered. There is no difference for win2k and non-win2k
browsing of samba shares. -using win2k and samba |
| 2000/3/26 [Computer/HW/IO, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17857 Activity:moderate |
3/26 What kind of useful things can I do with the "Windows 95" keys on
this lame keyboard if I am running Linux for example?
\_ Get a real OS. Throw out Linux. Use Windows instead.
\_ NO! Use Mac OS X! Screw Windoze!
\_ I said "for example". I run Linux, Solaris and OpenBSD
on my PCs. Have a nice day in your wintendo world.
\_ Now I understand what all of the rants on the motd
about only WinDOS running thier "apps". They were
taking about games.
\_ Don't be stupid. We're talking MS Office and no, Star
Office isn't a dropin replacement and yes, I *must* use
MS Office because my clients and customers do.
\_ throw the keys out with the keyboard?
\_ There was a /. thread about the "free" AOL keyboards with
17 hardwired URL keys at the top--some of the comments
involved the possibility of running a daemon to catch keyboard
signals from these keys (or the Windows key) and having them
do something useful with it. Have a look, there might be a link
to projects in that directiony. -John
\_ Here, Here! Weird Stuff has plenty of excellent keyboards with
the PS/2 and AT interface that don't have the WinDOS key.
\_ Dump your shitty mushy clone windows keyboard and get a real one. |
| 2000/3/24-25 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17839 Activity:kinda low |
3/23 Need Windows program/script/whatever that will download and save all
links from a remote html page. Check tucows and found nothing. I
know this is trivial on a unix box but I don't know of any Windows
programs for it and that's what I've gotta use. Thanks in advance!
\_ look for "wget for win32" on a search engine
\_ Another nice feature of wget is the ability to convert absolute
\_ IE will provide a list of links but not download them all
for you like wget.
links in the same set of pages to relative links.
\_ Ok, got it and it's mostly working. Picks up some extra cruft
and does a few other odd things but I did finally get it to grab
the files I wanted after faking the user agent and having it read
in the html from a file instead of the net. Thank you.
\_ Isn't IE supposed to be able to do this? -unix user
\_ IE will provide a list of links but not download them all for you
like wget. |
| 2000/3/18-19 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17798 Activity:high |
3/17 Mcafee VirusScan now requires Internet Explorer 4.0 or above.
This is the end of the world.
\_ And I feel fine.
\_ Don't you listen to Microsoft? Internet Explorer IS a part of
the operating system. Don't let those LINsUX freaks tell you
that IE'S JUST A USER PROGRAM MAN.
\_ all user programs are slaves to the MCP. who believes
in users anyhow?
\_ That isn't as bad as QuickBooks 2000. It requires IE 5.0!
Makes me sad that I actually helped develop the product -phale
\_ How can it run in ie4.0? Isn't ie5.0 mandatory and without which
you don't have a fully functional OS?
\_ Even with IE 5.0 you won't have a fully functionaly OS.
To get that on your PC, you need to try http://www.sun.com or
http://www.kernel.org or http://www.freebsd.org
\_ NO WAY MAN. UNIX IS LAME. WINDOWS IS RAD MAN. WINDOWS
IS THE STANDARD OS. USE WINDOWS. |
| 2000/3/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17784 Activity:high |
3/16 Does Linux do SMP now?
\_ Uh, it has been for years....
\_ Yeup. Years of doing SMP badly. But I hear it has recently
improved some.
\_ Figure by 2.4 it might be almost as good as nt4 and only
2 more revisions behind nt2k. Or you could just use a real
unix that already properly supports SMP.
\_ These guys are very critical of Linux/SMP, but I've
been using it for years and it works fine for me. --PeterM
\_ These guys are very critical of microsoft,but I've
being using microsoft word for years to write all my
been using microsoft word for years to write all my
term papers, and it's worked fine for me.
\_ peterm benchmarks serious CPU-bound research using
SMP. You could write your term papers in ed. -tom
\_ That's nice. It works for shit vs NT in web
page serving. Not interested in anything else.
\_ what does that have to do with SMP? Anyway
serving web pages is trivial unless you're
Yahoo. -tom
\_ ED! |
| 2000/3/11-12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17745 Activity:high |
3/11 NT question: I added a new drive to a system with two existing
drives, C & D. NT has decided to call this new drive D, and
call the old D drive E, thus breaking many paths, including paths
to system resources (oops!) how can I fix this?
Start->Programs->Administrative Tool->Disk Administrator.
Assign the drive to the drive letters you want.
\_ ObLinux
\_ ObRideYermom
\_ Linux will not fix this. Linux will not fix anything. Linux
is *never* the right answer anyway because there are other *nixen
that are superior. If you'd used any of them for more than a
month, you'd know that.
\_Thanks, that was it. |
| 2000/3/11-12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17741 Activity:high |
3/10 windows NT server will share one folder fine but the new folder
can't be seen if user is on an windows 98 machine (can if user is
on win NT). Also, even if logged on as the owner from an NT
client: "properties" only pops up the "general" tab and not the
"security" tab. Oh wait, i'm not getting the security tab on ANY
of the machines in my domain, though i was 5 minutes ago.
Help. (I know, get a real OS, I'm working on it).
\_ It is possible that you don't have enough licenses. The number
of licenses that you have effects the number of people that can
access shared folders at once.
\_ no security tab = FAT, not NTFS
\_ hi paolo
\_ er no, go to ctrl panel, select network devices on your
win 98 box, makesure the "client for microsoft networks"
setting is on. Dbl click on it and click on on
"Log onto Windows nt domain" specify the domain.
ou need to authenticate yourself against a domain for the
sharing to work (sometimes) - hey it's windows, it's
fucked - paolo
\_ reboot the win98 machine and try again. as other person says,
you're using FAT not NTFS, too, so no security tabs. |
| 2000/3/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17735 Activity:kinda low |
3/10 Is your computer possessed by demons? Find out:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/000310-000003.html
\_ My computer has many daemons.
\_ Running windows?
\_ uh. i don't know how quite to respond to that ...
\_ Did you 'I AGREE' to any Microsoft EULAs at any
point in your life? You would understand.... |
| 2000/3/9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17730 Activity:nil |
3/9 Does anyone remember what the maximum partition size is under
MS-DOS 3.1 - 3.3? Thanks. |
| 2000/3/8 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17713 Activity:nil |
3/7 What are people using to do S/MIME on Unix? I don't know which
M to RTFM. (I've used a thawte digital certificate to read/
send encrypted mail in windows, but don't like going over
there every time to read encrypted mails... Thanks |
| 2000/3/3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17688 Activity:nil |
3/2 Slashdot repost article deleted. Go to http://www.slashdot.org if you care. |
| 2000/3/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17685 Activity:low |
3/2 http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/03/02/microsoft_station/index.html One more reason why riding BART is kinda scary. |
| 2000/3/3-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17682 Activity:moderate |
3/2 for all you windows ppl, which is the best web server for win98?
\_ None. Win98 is a client OS, not a server.
\_ Personal web server.
\_ get this one; it comes from the m$ website or you can get
it along with vis studio. It's remeniscent of the iis setup.
\_ Apache.
\_ Back orifice. Yes, it has a web server, and if you are running one
on winderz you're going to get owned anyway.
\_ Don't do this. |
| 2000/3/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17678 Activity:nil |
3/2 http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp Microsoft INVENTS symbolic links!!! They are so cool! \_ WINDOWS. WINDOWS IS THE STANDARD OS. EVERYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX SUX. \_ Well M$ coined the term "DNS" too. \_ Well, the thing they have is a little more complicated than that. They have an actual process go out to the file system and look for shit to compress. In essence it is a cludgy hack that should be replaced by an encrypting/compressing filesystem. \_ Digital Integrity's (Aiken's brainchild) is doing a lot more interesting things than this. \_ Aiken's is brilliant, but who is making more money? ACADEMIA SUX AND INDUSTRY R3WLS!!! |
| 2000/3/1-2 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17667 Activity:moderate |
2/29 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html#whyBoycott http://www.oreilly.com/ask_tim/amazon_patent.html \_ USE WINDOWS. WAREZ REWLZ. LINUX SUX. \_ Uh huh, communists and a guy who made his millions on the copyright system which is the printed version of the patent system. I'm impressed. I'm also stoned, stupid, and a libertarian. \_ There is a BIG difference between the patent system and the copyright system. You can have two books that describe how to use the same algorithm, in detail, and not violate copyright. But the way the PTO is going, you wont be able to have two separate programs that use the same algorithm, without violating patents. \_ Bullshit. Stop repeating the ignorant drivel from the slashdot crowd and do your own research. Start with a law degree. "But I don't need no stinkin' law degree to know that my rights to other people's work is being infringed!" \_ One of the cornerstones of patent law is that no one should be allowed to patent prior art (something which someone has done before) nor any trivial extention of prior art (something which would be obvious to anyone in the field even without it having already been done) The trick is that the patent office's track record for letting prior art leak into patents is abysmal. [Dubious reference to prior art accidentally deleted] \_ Please quote the spec example and provide URL. If it was that simple the judge would not have granted an injunction. That's only done when there is a high probability of victory. If the example you claim is in the cookie spec covered the whole patent, then B&N's lawyers could have easily not only not been on the wrong end of the injuction, but could have had the patent declared invalid long before now. Patent law isn't as simple as slashdot makes it out. \_ Were any of the online brokers up and running in 1997? Any one of their stock purchase systems would constitute prior art if in place then. -mel \_ No, it wouldn't. You have no idea what a patent even is. It is defined by the claims, not the oft and over quoted summaries printed on slashdot and other anti-IP sites. Violate so much as a single minor claim and you're infringing on some- one else's property. |
| 2000/3/1-2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Security] UID:17664 Activity:nil |
2/29 does an ssh client for windows 3.11 exist? thanks.
\_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S
ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN.
\_ Win32 programs have been known to run on 3.11 systems.
Try TeraTerm ssh (free) or F-Secure (maybe free if you're on
campus).
\_ There was an article in the merc this week saying that
SSH Communications & SANS were giving away free SSH to
.edu's but I can't find anything on http://ssh.com or http://sans.org.
Anyone know anything about it? |
| 2000/3/1-2 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17661 Activity:very high |
2/29 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26502 is a really cool mozilla bug which reveals some key differences between windows and linux. \_ Linux is like a fragile lotus blossom, moments before the opening of a new Starbucks. \_ Whoa... deep. We need Shatner on this one. \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ And those differences are what? Linux developers get to make their own mistakes while Windows developers have to trust MS? \_ The obvious: Windows is faster even after 14 builds and the open source guys flat out say so and don't have a fix for it. At the end of the day, winmozilla outperforms linux- mozilla with fewer bugs no matter what your religion says. \_ uh... I dont think this says anything about Linux v. Windows... whats it says is "X windows sucks and is hopelessly slow" which we all knew already anyway. \_ Linix = X. Windows = MS. MS video >>>> Linux video. \_ Linux = X. Windows = MS. MS video >>>> Linux video. \_ WRONG. Linux = a particular implementation of X. Which may or may not be equivalent to "X always has sucky performance". \_ Uh, yer on crack. There are very few Linux specific modifications to X. \_ You mean, TO THE XOPEN REFERENCE VERSION OF X. There are other, commercial versions. \_ See below for this point. \_ X always has sucky performance. To do better you need to buy a custom version and then it's all nice and shrink wrapped. Nice philosophy but it doesn't stand up in the real world. As I said, Linux Video = Shit. Windows Video = Awesome. \_ XF86 4.0 will, to a very large extent, change this, and should provide a more efficient rendering pipeline than even windows (while on a local workstation) while not sacrificing remote display abilities that make X cool. --dbushong \_ That's nice. When the vapor takes form, let us know. Until then, it remains as I said. Linux Video = Sucks. Windows Video = Awesome. You can't compare what vapor *might* be to what Windows is already doing today and has been doing for many *years*. \_ People are running this vapor, bub. \_ Why not? Only MS is allowed to compare its favor favorably to what other people have already been doing for years before *they* thought of (ahem, "invented") it? \_ You want Linux to be like MS? All hype and promises and vapor? You can't have your cake and eat it, too. And in this case, Xfree 4.0 isn't even here yet, so no, you're worse than MS. \_ if you actually READ THE BUG,and have clue, you may come to the conclusion that this is yet another case of linux hax0rs doing sloppy programming, rather than an intrinsic speed problem in X. \_ I read the bug. Typical of the open source fanatic, you place blame on sloppy hax0rs, then say there's nothing wrong and (I'm guessing) have been critical of Ms in the past for the same sloppy coding. Yet when MS does it, you say it's bad. When "linux hax0rs" are sloppy, everything is good and "just you wait until Xfree86 4.0 is out!!!". The end user doesn't give a damn why it's slow. Linux Video <<< Windows Video. \_ You're an idiot. I was decrying open source fanatics, not emulating them. \_ I read the bug. The bug writers were claiming there's nothing they can do but futher kludge it. \_ You are all fools! What this *really* shows is that graphical browsers all suck. LYNX! LYNX! LYNX is the STANDARD! Web browser. \_ w3m is the standard. lynx sucks. |
| 2000/2/29-3/2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17657 Activity:kinda low |
2/29 Why is this year being a leap year such a big problem? If a computer
wasn't designed to recognize the 4/100/400 rule, it'll take the simple
rule that every 1 out of 4 years is a leap year and will still treat
Year 2000 as a leap year. No one was going to think 4/100 but not
4/100/400, right? -- yuen
\_ Never attribute to malice...
\_ Wrong. People do stupid things and that was one of them.
\_ 4/100 is more commonly known than 4/100/400. Also 4/100/400 takes
some tiny shred of thought to remember and code. Thus lots of folks
such as SGI and Microsoft blew it.
\_ Wasn't it that some programmers thought that the rule
was that every 400 years, February has 30 days.
\_ Uh yeah, uh huh, sure, yuppers.
\_ Actually, you're right on this. I originally
learned about the 400 rule from somebody that
thought February would have 30 days in 2000. She
didn't know about 100's not having a leap year. |
| 2000/2/28-3/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17645 Activity:kinda low |
2/27 http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu95/results/res99q4/cpu95-19991206-03938.html \_ please to provide baseline metrics for context \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ Linux is like Gay Marriage: Crunchy on the outisde, \_ Linux is like Gay Biker Sex: Crunchy on the outisde, but with a sweet candy center. Or is it like rutabaga. Yeah. That's it. \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ I vote for the rutabaga. Maybe we need another motd poll? \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. LINUX SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. LINUX USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ USE WINDOWS MAN. dat fast mo-fo SUX. WINDOWS REWLZ. ANYONE WHO'S ANYONE USES WINDOWS. dat fast mo-fo USERS ARE FREAKS MAN. \_ sparc 10 = 1.0 \_ How's that compare to my p5-166, *The* standard of comparison in the computing world? \_ ftp://ftp.cdf.toronto.edu/pub/spectable |
| 2000/2/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:17603 Activity:nil |
2/22 So my NT Client machine is giving me the error "the volume
does not contain a recognized file system." when i try to access the
cdrom. However, if i boot from a floppy the CDROM works fine.
(i.e. it is not a hardware problem). What is NT's problem?
\_ Well, my mentor, the great Holmes once ... oh fuck it ... your
NT drivers are fucked. Uninstall the CD ROM drivers. Reboot.
Install most recent non-beta drivers for your CD ROM. Reboot. |
| 2000/2/18-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17548 Activity:nil |
2/17 How come when I install WinNT on a brand new machine, it says it can't
format a 5GB partition using NTFS? I thought NTFS can be very large.
Thx. -- yuen
\_ On NT4, the installer doesn't know how to format NTFS. It knows
how to format FAT16. FAT16 is limited to 4 GB. If you select
NTFS during install it actually formats FAT16, copies some
files, boots NT kernel, and then a converter takes over to
convert the disk from FAT16 to NTFS. NT5 is better about this.
\_ I see. BTW how come the FDISK in MS-DOS 6.22 limits to 2GB
partitions instead of 4 while FAT16 can handle 4GB? -- yuen
\_ http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q127/8/51.ASP
\_ different cluster size.
\_ Use a repartitioner like Partition Magic (v5 is slick) to set the
partitions and types after install.
\_ OEM-ers have ghost-like installers that let them install onto
partitions greater than 4GB |
| 2000/2/13 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17499 Activity:nil |
2/11 At my work, this guy forgot the administrator password on his
Windows NT laptop. I know nothing about Windows, besides what
I just read about on the Net. How do I recover the administrator
password for him? |
| 2000/2/9-10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17475 Activity:kinda low |
2/9 Is there a NFS client for windows NT or 2000 that is free or
free for the department?
\_ No. Use samba. |
| 2000/2/8 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17456 Activity:very high |
2/7 How come it takes NT several times longer than Win95 or DOS to copy
a lot of small files to a floppy diskette? Copying a few big files
doesn't have this problem. Thx. -- yuen
\_ does xcopy solve your problem?
\_ I thought it would, but for some reason no. Both xcopy and copy
on NT are very slow when copying a lot of small files like 20KB
each. -- yuen
each to a diskette. -- yuen
\_ pkzip
\_ Doesn't help either. Unzipping to A: on NT takes very long too.
I'm using v2.50 for 95/NT. I can copy the .ZIP file itself to
the diskette which would be fast, but that's not what I need
to do. -- yuen
\_ Because NT sucks. No, seriously, no idea. I've been using both
NT and 95/98 since day one and never had this problem with NT.
Try another machine or a new floppy or a new floppy drive.
\_ I just tried it. 30 .txt files totaling 619 KB write to floppy.
1:08 on Win98SE, 1:13 on NTSP6. *shrug* Probably something to do
with your particular system (floppy drive like the man said)
\_ It must be something wrong with my system then. It takes more
than 5 min on mine! Thanks. BTW I'm using SP5. -- yuen
\_ MS doesn't admit to any floppy driver changes from SP5 ->
SP6(a/b) so that's probably not it. The extra 5 seconds
the other person took for NT isn't a good sign for NT but
only one run on one machine isn't a perfect test and 5 secs
isn't enough to really notice anyway. 5 minutes sounds like
NT may have the VERIFY option turned on. Try turning it off
and try again. Also turn off BREAK. -floppy drive guy
\_ VERIFY is already off, and "BREAK /?" says the BREAK
command has no effect under NT. -- yuen
\_ i would look at NTFS vs FAT - paolo.
\_ ignore paolo. he knows nothing about anything, yet jumps
at any chance to display his ignorance.
\_ Testing on the same machine or is it possible the NT machine just
has a crappy floppy drive? |
| 2000/2/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17430 Activity:low |
2/4 In C, how do I tell how much memory/CPU time used/stats/etc another
process is using? Do I have to be a root process?
\_ In unix it's OS dependent but usually found somewhere under
the /proc filesystem.
\_ /proc is for pansies
\_ First off, the C language doesn't facilitate such things.
What you want to know is machine-dependant.
\_ On UNIX, install top; on NT, use Ctrl-Shift-Esc; on Win95/98,
go get the "kernel powertoys" at the ms site.
\_ BTW, where is Ctrl-Shift-ESC on NT documented? I use the key
sequence everyday, but I don't even remember where I found it
from.
\_ It's in the MS docs such as they are. I've seen it. |
| 2000/2/3-5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17417 Activity:nil |
2/2 Request for a NT web developer consultant: "Small vendor wants to
move academic software application to web site. Looking for
developer with expertise in NT web sites and online payments".
More info at: /csua/pub/jobs/hrwinc -slow
\_ *nix.
\_ I thought there was only 1 kinney... |
| 2000/1/28-29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17357 Activity:moderate |
1/27 Is there anything in Win95/98 that is similar to the Task Manager in
NT which can display CPU usage, change process priority, etc? Thx.
\_ do CTRL+ALT+DELETE and then click 'processes' or something like that
\_ There's a list of task names, but all you can do is to kill or
switch to a task.
\_ Also, note that the "End Task" button is not a true kill
command. It's more like tapping the selected program on the
shoulder, and saying, "If it's not too much trouble, could
you keel over and die?"
\_ Naw, not really, because after it ignores you, 95/98
gives you a chance to kill it outright unless 95/98 itself
is totally fucked up (more so than normal I mean).
\_ cpu usage is in Accessories -> System Tools -> System Monitor
\_ Only in certain versions of win98. |
| 2000/1/27-29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17355 Activity:high |
1/27 What's the difference between regedit.exe and regedt32.exe in NT?
\_ regedit.exe supports searching through the registry; regedt32
is smart about permissions on keys and values and the like (which
are only applicable to NT). I *think* regedit is basically the
same as as on Win 9x, whereas regedt32 is exclusive to NT.
\_ The above is good enough. I use regedit on NT almost exclusively
because mostly what I'm doing is searching for keys/values which
regedt32 can only do one hive at a time. Regedt32 can also connect
to a remote registry without hassles. In short: use regedit.exe
unless you _need_ regedt32.
\_ regedit32 has two more letters in its filename, in NT that is.
\ MIcrosoft's "BEst Practices" advises against this as regedit
\ MIcrosoft's "Best Practices" advises against this as regedit
changes are made instaneously, without asking to save or ok to
override. Whereas regedt32 you can put it in Read-Only mode
under options before you start hacking away at the registry.
\_ Yeah, and if the whole world followed MS's concepts of
best practice throughout history, my tree branch club
would crash and BSOD moments before I needed it to whack
some vicious fanged beast.
\_ If that had been a little more coherent, it might have
been really funny.
\_ I was following M$'s "best practices" for coherent
use of the English language. Windows NT Error
Number 2 Encountered. Please Contact Your
Administrator.
\_ <nodding> Good point.
emacs editor reached this far. |
| 2000/1/27 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17352 Activity:nil |
1/26 What is a file with extension ".scr" for in MS Windows? (I don't know
if it's for 3.1, 95 or NT.) Thx.
\_ screensaver |
| 2000/1/25-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17323 Activity:high |
1/24 HI TREVOR! WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE! -his loyal MOTD fans
\_ This Trevor guy is something that should go on /. along with all
of Paolo's tjb posting archives. Then again, I wouldn't want to
have this IP slashdotted.
\_ Speaking of slashdot. Do you really think soda can be slashdoted?
I wonder if we all just loged out of soda and loged into
http://slashdot.org, would it just burn and die?
\_ Yeah. Think of it: "CS guy acts like total asshole!" That'd
sure be a big news flash.
\_ someone should storm his discussion section with a camera and post
his face so that all we CSUAers know what he looks like.
\_ Would be much more fun if everyone showed up
\_ This is your idea of fun? What next? Kook baiting on
Sproul?
\_ Hey, what's your problem? A week's not complete if
you haven't gotten yelled at by Pastor Glen
\_ I was thinking more of the students walking by. |
| 2000/1/25-6/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17318 Activity:kinda low |
6/24 Windows is an evolution from A> to C>
\_ You know that joke is older than your first computer, don't you?
\_ but my first computer was pre msdos
\_ Then maybe you've just been waiting for dos 2.0 to come out
while the floppy disk was grinding just before the time/date
prompt popped up with the 1980 default in place.
\_ so, is X-Windows an evolution from / to X ?
\_ oh boy you are so clever. did you come up with that yourself?
oh you couldn't even manage to do that much? umm, go away. |
| 2000/1/13-15 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17234 Activity:nil |
1/13 In Emacs 19.34.6 for NT, when I use a dark background like "dark green"
or "black", font-lock-background-mode is automatically set to dark,
but for some reasons font lock still uses colors from
light-screen-face-colors instead of dark-screen-face-colors. Any way
to fix this problem? Thanks.
\_ 1) remove NT
2) use nvi
\_ No.
\_ So what *Help* says on font-lock-face-attributes, that "Emacs
uses default attributes based on display type and background
brightness. See variables `font-lock-display-type' and
`font-lock-background-mode'.", is not true?
\_ Possibly.
\_ Ed! Ed is the answer! |
| 2000/1/10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17207 Activity:very high |
1/10 My gf (Poli-Sci major) is interested at sys admin or NT admin.
What should be her first step? Taking a MCSE class, or a sys adm
class? Which job is in higher demand, sys adm (UNIX) or NT adm?
\_ she should get a new boyfriend who is tall enough to teach
her to sysadmin. you're obviously not worthy.
\_ She should go back wherever the fuck she came from. I don't need
another humanities major who can't get a real job that pays money
using the degree he/she graduated with trying to make BIG BUCK$,
D00D!!!1! as a sysadmin. When I pick up the phone, it'd be nice
to talk to someone with clue, rather than some IS drone who went
to "sysadmin class" and thinks that all problems stem from bad
installs of Netscape or Eudora, and that all problems can be
solved by installing the latest MS patch. |
| 2000/1/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17205 Activity:nil |
1/9 Does anyone know whether Win95 and 98 have problems with each other's
master browse lists? I connected one of each via a crossover cable
so my grandfather could share his printer, and while the Win98 box
thinks the 95 machine is master browser and sees it just fine, Win95
sees neither itself nor the 98 box. Both have all the requisite
M$ NBT bits installed, and both have the print & file sharing
settings at browse master->automatic, LM broadcast->yes. I tried
several variations on this and couldn't even get the 95 PC to show
up in its own network neighborhood. Any hints? -John
\_ ObBIKE!/LINUX!
\_ Install win95 service packs. There's a huge pile of networking
bug fixes in there. A 95 machine w/out patches is lucky if it can
ping localhost much less connect to anything else.
\_ Thank you. -John |
| 2000/1/9-10 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17196 Activity:high |
1.8 Location: SoCal. Need good provider of line to webhosting server
recommendations? - kinney
\_ Dump NT and use a real operating system. -- ilyas
\_ sure, want to port crystalreports to unix?
\_ he's running or going to be running at the minimum,
athlon 500, 256 MB memory 20 Gb disk. He's middle mgmt,
and has money to burn.
\_ Nah, he's only have to dump NT if he was using an Athlon...
\_ ?? NT won't run on K7's?
\_ It's running fine on this athlon 500. - paolo
\_ No it _isn't_.. shut _up_, paolo.
\_ It's running fine on this single proc athlon 500. - paolo |
| 2000/1/5-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17163 Activity:low |
1.5 I read that there's an OBDC driver for Perl called win32::obdc .
However, I have vague knowledge on the subject after doing a
little research on it. My impression is that it's exclusively
used for the windows operating system; however, the FAQ on it alo
comes off as implying that it's available for Unix/Linux systems
as well. I know that OBDC has an interface to Oracle and a few
other databases; my work's database seems to be stored on a
FreeBSD Unix system (I could be wrong). Anyway, my boss was
talking about attempting to use Java for it's OBDC interface
because it's supposdly pretty fast. This leads me to further
believe that the OBDC system works for Unix/Linux. Yet according
to the FAQ on the win32::obdc module, the OBDC drivers seem only
to exist for the windows operating system. Either way, I'm
really confused regarding the issue. - keithyw
\_ All the win32:: stuff is windows only. Unix perl modules have been
written that can talk everything except ODBC. There's freetds which
is currently at version 0.50 which can maybe do some simple queries
but I haven't used it and the authors say the odbc parts are little
more than a skeleton of features. You need a windows side client
for real odbc, or the unix side can almost certainly talk in your
unix database's "natural" language be it Oracle, Sybase, or
whatever. Others may have better answers. I've already scoured
the net for my own unix/odbc needs and freetds was the best I
found. Hopefully someone else knows better. -reiffin
\_ Not sure if this answers your q's, but... It does not matter
which OS your DB resides in (WinNT, Unix, OS/390, etc.), if the
if there is an ODBC driver for your DB, you can talk to it. Most
drivers that conform to the ODBC API exist for Windows, but there
are ODBC drivers for Unix for Oracle and DB/2 (and probably others).
\_ Free and mostly functional odbc drivers for unix? URL?? Please!
\_ they exist. they are not free. no url handy.
\_ Cheap is ok too. Got a name so I can find it myself? Even
a "sounds like XYZ" will do. |
| 1999/12/31-2000/1/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17129 Activity:kinda low |
12/30 What is the service "iad3" running on port 1032 of a non-server
windows '98 box? Anyone??
\_ ports greater than 1024 are the ephemeral ports (not defined by
IETF)
\_ That is neither true, nor relevant.
\_ I meant not regulated by IETF
\_ Still neither true nor relevant. IANA, not IETF, registers
port numbers, and any port number can be registered
(1-65535). Nevertheless, Microsoft can and will run
anything it wants on any port without registering it with
IANA. Ephemeral ports are not defined by any RFC and
different OS'es pick different methods of assigining
ephemeral ports - but I'm not aware of any that says
they are all ports > 1024. (BSD defaults to 1024-5000,
while SysVR4 uses 32768-65535.) |
| 1999/12/30-2000/1/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17126 Activity:low |
12/30 Micorsoft Press's three new books on Windows 2000 to be published
on Jan 1900, accoring to MS web site.
\_ urlP
\_ m$ fixed it, but here's a screenshot
http://www.memepool.com/Images/1900.gif
\_ They "fixed" it by simply removing the entries from the page?
\_ Yawn. So some dimwit in content is a moron. This is true at all
\_ Yawn. So some dimwit in content is a dimwit. This is true at all
companies. |
| 1999/12/29-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17119 Activity:low |
12/29 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_582000/582007.stm Be afraid. Be very afraid. \_ you're an idiot. -tom \_ THE SKY IS FALLING! |
| 1999/12/29-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17116 Activity:nil |
12/28 In Win95, where's the CONFIG.SYS file that I can add a "FILES=" line
so that a DOS app running full-screen can open more files? Thanks.
\_ It's a Property of the dos app. |
| 1999/12/28-30 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17112 Activity:high |
12/28 Please point me to info (URL,etc.) on Clustering NT machines.
\_ http://www.microsoft.com/hwtest/sysdocs/wolfpackdoc.htm
There's more if you search for "wolfpack" on the MS site.
\_ BWQAAAA-haaaa-haaaaahaaaaaaa... that's a good one, that is.
Got any more jokes?
\_ Hmm, should i assume from that response that this can't be
done? There's no third party software that allows for
NT clusters? (i would have sworn i had heard of such a thing)
\_ http://www.microsoft.com/hwtest/sysdocs/wolfpackdoc.htm
There's more if you search for "wolfpack" on the MS site.
\_ hahaha... I see you do have more.
\_ Uh... yes but are you sure this is the right answer? How about you
tell us what you're trying to do first.
\_ Well, since you asked (though, it is not my choice, i was
simply asked if it could be done, and i knew the motd
would know) They are looking for load-balancing/redundant
servers, specifically webservers i believe. (and Thanks
to the persone who posted the wolfpack link!)
\_ No, curse the fool, and much misfortune will fall upon YOU
for following the M$ path to damnation.
You DON'T NEED "wolfpack" or anything like that for
loadbalancing. All you need is an intelligent firewall
that will do loadbalancing, and you can do many many
webservers, not just the pittance that "wolfpack" gives
you.
\_ Will Checkpoint do this? (checkpoint is the
firewall that i have)
\_ If you have the product, you have the manual.
RTFM.
\_ In Checkpoint, it's called "ConnectControl". It's
not very flexible, but it works. Requires a
separate license, though.
\_ If you're going to piss away money in bulk you should at
least spend it on something useful like a hardware load
balancer/redirector. That way when your company fires the
pro-MS morons and wants to do something useful, the hardware
still has value and wasnt a wasted investment in MS
licenses. The HW LB will outperform the software ones, btw.
\_ Ahh, splendid, and i assume HW LB is platform
independent. This is good, BUT it then brings BACK
the problem of a single point of failure (or does
it? two HW LBers linked??) Can you recommend a
when your firewall can do the job for NO extr
brand / URL?
\_ You can link 2 LD's together, yes. Cisco will do it.
\_ the "usual" choice is cisco local directory, which
costs an absurd $10-20k. Why throw away money
when your firewall can do the job for NO extra
money?
\_ "performance", "single point of failure", "money
no object". $20k is nothing. Don't be cheap on
your production site. It'll bite you later.
\_ other options include F5's bigIP (http://www.f5.com
arrowpoint (<DEAD>www.arrowpoint.com<DEAD>
and (free!) Linux virtual server
(<DEAD>www.linuxvirtualserver.olg<DEAD> All of these are
FAR more reliable than any NT based solutions.
In fact they (unfortunately perhaps) can be used
to keep a NT based site running in spite of NT's
unstableness. -ERic
\_ Someone totally skipped the main question...is this
server farm for static content or commerce? There
are massive application-level issues in using
hardware redirectors / load balancers. Take a look
at Windows 2000 Advanced Server for distributed
applications; ADO / LDAP dcom linkages for multi-
server session; and definitely Veritas ClusterServer
for application-level redundancy. A UNIX cluster
with a 3-tier architecture (e.g. separate DB engine
and multiple servers connected to a disk array
would be more help in distributing application
data.) [reformatted to 80 columns for you] |
| 1999/12/9-10 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17038 Activity:moderate |
12/8 I am trying to come up with a gift for a good friend who is very
into setting up computer/network at his home. He has linux, NT,
or whatever (I am not into this things myself). Any suggestiongs
for a gift within $100?
\_ No, but I corrected your annoying typos.
\_ What were they?
\_ are you saying he's very into getting a home LAN set up or that
he already has one up and you're looking for a supplement gift?
\_ They were corrected. Just be thankful.
\_ A pair of ethernet cards?
\_ a copy of VMWare software
\_ are you saying he's very into getting a home LAN or that
he already has one and you're looking for a supplement gift?
\-a life, you can start with a $100 one
\_ They clearly said "he has linux, NT, or whatever".
\_ A nice hub, and some shockingly colored network cables. I think
you can get bright green, pink, whatever ones. -John
\_ A copy of Batman. Starring Jack Nicholson, Michael Keaton,
and Kim Basinger. |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:17036 Activity:high |
12/8 Does anyone know of a good Calendaring solution for a small,
growing company? Currently we are about 30, looking to be
around 80-100 in a year or so. I'd like something
cross-platform if possible. Thanks... -brianm
\_ you mean like MS outlook? Or maybe even <DEAD>when.com<DEAD>
\_ Cross-Platform! Win95, 98, AND NT!
\_ Haven't tried it, but there's one I saw a reference to recently
that's cross platform. See <DEAD>www.cst.ca<DEAD>
They have Windows, Mac, Web, and Motif clients, and Palm, CE,
and Psion syncs. --cdaveb
\_ <DEAD>when.com<DEAD>
\_ Exchange
\_ Is netscape calendar server any good? It is certainly cross-platform.
\_ got a really good one hanging on my wall. completely
platform-independent.
\-i dont actually use the netscape calendar but they use it
at lbl. it seems to require a lot of horsepower ... but maybe
that is only if you are doing a lot of stuff with LDAP. it
does a hell of a lot of ldap lookups. --psb |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17035 Activity:high |
12/9 Has anyone used C2config.exe on their nt boxes?
\_ There's no such thing as c2 compliant NT. The box isn't functional
after you follow all the c2 guidelines. Forget it. It's a cruel
marketing joke. And yes, I've done it. It's pointless.
\_ To make NT C2 compliant, you must take it off the network.
NT with no net is useless.
\_ That's for 3.51. For 4.0, you have to set the registry
to only be writable by admin users which is enough to
cripple most apps, especially M$ apps. Any box with no
net is useless. NT isn't an exception. Just curious,
does the original poster have some pointy haired moron
for a boss that wants everything c2 compliant because he
read how cool that is in a glossy quarterly trade rag?
\_ Win 98 retains some of it's usefulness without net
since it's only useful for playing games that won't
run on NT.
\_ I haven't read the c2 reqs recently but I doubt
that taking 98 off the net is enough. |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:17034 Activity:high |
12/8 In NT, is there a way to run a command-line program without displaying
a command prompt window, or leave a command-line program running after
closing the command prompt window? Thanks. -- yuen
\_ Check out the 'start' command for the latter. For the former, you
can telnet in and use an expect script so you're technically not
_displaying_ a command prompt but you are of course opening one.
What are you trying to do? Maybe there's another way. Why does
it matter that a command prompt isn't displayed?
\_ I want to run some background processes without associated
windows, similar to "foo >& /dev/null" in Unix.
\_ See if NT's "start" command does what you want.
\_ You might also find the 'srvany' program useful. -brg |
| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17027 Activity:moderate |
12/7 Hi what is the Unix command line utility or is there such an utility
that can invoke a command process on a remote machine (Lets say a
NT system)
\_ you were doing fine until you mentioned NT...
\_ I know it's almost impossible but it's probable.
\_ It isn't anything even close to impossible. It just
matters what you're trying to actually do and how important
security is and a few other things. Keep reading. This is
all covered below. Why reply until you've read what others
have to say?
\_ you can invoke remote processes on other unix machines with rsh
or ssh. If you want to invoke processes on NT with something
command-line-ish, install a telnet daemon on the NT machine and
activate the commands through an expect script. Or see if you can
find unix-like rsh commands for NT. -ERic
\_ MKS makes unix tools for NT. http://www.mks.com
\_ Or you can run perl and have it listen on a socket and then... oh
it makes me shudder. I've considered this but never actually done
due to the annoyance, security issues, etc.
\_ Exceed comes with a telnet server. It works on 95, probably for NT,
also. It gives you a dos prompt, and will even launch a GUI on
the remote machine (but you won't be able to interact with the
GUI, unless there's a trick).
\_ It's no better than a million other NT telnet servers. It's
just telnet, people. It isn't hard. It *is* insecure.
\_ Exceed telnetd is a ridiculously broken hack. For one thing,
it can't even do terminal control properly, so occasionally
ends up disallowing more than 25 lines of input in one telnet
session. -pissed off
\_ Slnet from seatle labs is ok but still not perfect. Much
better than the exceed crap.
\_ BO. |
| 1999/11/30-12/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16972 Activity:high |
11/30 In pre 1900 convention, we've always used 95, 98, etc to represent
year. For example, 1/1/99, Winblows 98, Office 97, Norton Util 95.
We use that convention even on check books and contracts. For
year 2000, are we expected to write 2000, 2001, 2002? Is it
acceptable to just write 0? For example, 1/1/0 instead of 1/1/2000?
\_ just write 1/1/ instead of 1/1/00 or 1/1/0. The 0 is implied.
\_Thanks :)
\_ <DEAD>www.namethedecade.com<DEAD>
\_ Vote "Naughties"!!!
\_ And wear them like a jewel!
\_ Don't be a twit.
\_ You were around before 1900? I didn't think the CSUA had any
members over 99 years old...
\_ Look at the expiration date on your credit card moron. |
| 1999/11/29-12/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Mail] UID:16962 Activity:kinda low |
11/28 In pine, how do I add an attachment so that my parents can see
in-line JPG picture in their AOL mail (instead of them having to press
that download button)? -kid with newbie parents
\_ not sure, but let me tell ya somethin' about PCs. After my
parents worked their butt off to pay for my tuition, I decided
to be a good kid and got them a new sub $899 computer w/net.
On the first attempt to teach them Win95 and AOL, AOL for some
reason took up all the VM (200 meg) and the computer swapped
\_ another luser who thinks virtual
memory is about using your hard disk
as memory.
like hell. After a while, the computer hozed and I had to reboot.
My parents looked confused, and I had to explain what happened
and why I had to reboot. They looked even more confused. I guess
this whole "user-friendly" shit isn't very friendly for the
older generation who don't understand the difference between
Windows, Office, internet, email, Start/Start Programs.
\_ I'm sure my parents are older than yours and they weren't that
stupid about it. I think you just have dumb parents. It has
nothing to do with age. Nothing about being over 30 makes
anyone innately anti-technology or technophobic. It's a gene
pool problem, not an age problem.
\_ why is it that there exists this generalization that if
you're an older person, you automatically are a complete
dumbshit who no longer has the ability to read and
learn new material? it's not like computers come from
outer space or anything. for the most part, i hate computers,
so i do the bare minimum to set-up and run my own computer.
even that type of lazy, unconcerted effort give me a running
unit. anyhow, the kind of stereotype doesn't make any
sense.
\_ got one word for you, dude: iMac
\_ use linux. ride bike. problem solved.
\_ U53 W1ND0Z3 MAN. W1N98 15 50 KRAD. 1T CAN RUN 3V3RYTH1N6
THAT L1NUX CANT MAN. SO USE W1ND0Z3 CUZ 1T5 C00L
\_ Get LINUX for parents.
\_ LINUX! |
| 1999/11/22-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Academia/Berkeley/HKN] UID:16940 Activity:high |
11/22 Hello how does 26K shares + 60K salary sound for
HKN grad with 3+ years prog. (esp. on the web)?
I am paranoid a coworker@ my startup, MCSE + degree from
the 'fraud may actually be getting a better deal than me.
How do I find out???
\_ Lesson number 1, HKN means nothing.
\_ Oh, I don't know about that. It means that a person cares
more about meaningless stats than about ability and clue.
\_ 26k shares? You planning on staying that long? 60k? Is your
3+ years work time or school time? No one cares about school time.
60k is nothing special. Wouldn't be surprised if the MCSE was
getting a better deal. Is this their initial offer or is this
what you got after negotiations? Might consider asking for more
cash and fewer shares and then bailing after 6-9 months to a better
place.
\_ No, here's the real lesson one. NUMBER OF SHARES IS MEANINGLESS
except when coupled with the number of outstanding shares. If you
are comparing equity offers, use percentage-of-company. Your use
of shares shows you don't understand how to value them. --aaron
\_ AARON likes Asian Chic.
\_ and Asian Chics like AARON.
\_ I like asian chic
\_ I would personally adjust # of shares vs the likelihood of going
public, and what you think the eventual market cap would be --oj
\_ I'd take zero shares and higher pay and leave in 6 months.
\_ I agree here. % equity doesn't mean squat unless you know
or can guess the estimated potential value of the company.
Is the market $100 million or $1 billion? That said, % equity
is still a lot more useful than # shares.
\_ Yup. My company went public couple months ago and we did
a reverse-split of 2 for 3. Other instances I know have done
reverse of 1 for 6. Once again, provides proof that number of
shares means NADA!
\_ Taos will give 60k to a dropout with a 1.0 GPA. Obviously you are
getting the full value of your HKN membership now.
\_ 60k??? I'm like a GPA loser, and after 1.5 years am making
80k+. Goes to show ya' GPA don't mean squat in the 'real world'.
Numbnuts. Most of these guys are right though -- just plunking
down the number of shares isn't nearly enough info....
\_ And how many hours per week do you work?
\_ avg 50hrs/week
\_ At work for 30/week. Working for 1 to 2 per week. 80k+. |
| 1999/11/16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16891 Activity:low |
11/15 I just realized that I have 5 different copies of JVM on my NT
(and they sure take up a lot of space!!!) Is there an easy way
to consolidate them? I have 1.1.4 all the way to 1.2. Thanks!
\_ Reformat hard drive. Re-install NT. (yes i suck. no not like that)
\_ del /s /q jvm1.1.4/*.* |
| 1999/11/10-12 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16858 Activity:very high |
11/10 Anyone heard of a "BubbleBoy Virus"? Thx.
__/~*##$%@@@******~\-__
/f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\
4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\
/fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\
(iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB
(I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B
(I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/
\b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/
~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~
| I I \\
/ // i\ \\
( [ (( I@) ))) )
\_\_VYVU_/
|| * |
| * *\
/* /I\ *~~\
/~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___
MOTD NUKED
HAVE A NICE DAY
\_ It can be a problem if you run IE5 and Windows scripting host on
win98. In which case you deserve it. -John
__/~*##$%@@@******~\-__
/f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\
4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\
/fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\
(iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB
(I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B
(I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/
\b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/
~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~
| I I \\
/ // i\ \\
( [ (( I@) ))) )
\_\_VYVU_/
|| * |
| * *\
/* /I\ *~~\
/~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___
MOTD NUKED
HAVE A NICE DAY
\_ OrCAD still sucks
\_ Any URL where I can find a warning from CERN?
\_ Any URL where I can find a warning from CERT?
\_ If CERT issued a warning it would be on their web site.
Since it's not, they haven't bothered. They don't issue
alerts for every new MS virus or they'd be spending all
their time doing that.
\_ Open outlook. Go to Tools/options/security. Set to 'restricted'.
Go to IE's tools/options/security/restricted. Set everything to
disabled. Learn lesson that M$ never learned about keeping data
separate from code. Thou shalt not make active data types.
\_ Windows Update. Eyedog control ActiveX patch. Problem dealt with.
\_ obFormatHardDiskInstallLinux
\_ Linux? I thought we're talking about security not k00lness?
The mindless Linux crowd pisses me off just as much as the
equally ignorant Windows crowd. -pissed off by stupidity
\_ actually I'm a Windoze user that posted the ob comment
\_ Gach! Surrounded! It's hopeless!
\_ If you want extra secure use OpenBSD. If you want
complete security unplug your network from your computer.
\_ Never mind; I was high on crack at the time. -Phil
\_ Impersonating Phil in the motd should be a
squishable offense. Doing so as badly as
the above person should be a capital offense.
\_ But the network IS the computer. Phil told me!
\_ Non-Phil forgeries deleted. -Phil
\_ Non-Phil forgeries deleted. -Non-Phil
\_ damn philforge don't work worth a damn...
\_ be even more secure, unplug the computer.
\_ Whoa! This is stunningly original! Can I quote
you on this? |
| 1999/11/9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16851 Activity:nil |
11.8 What kind of free Windows registry editor do experts use?
\_ ed for Windows. Only a sexual deviant or a pinko commie symp
would even possibly consider using anything else.
\_ I use the default regedit on bot 95/98 and NT. regedit32 is
really annoying with all those god damned windows for each hive
and make searching impossible. It might be nice to have a more
advanced tool with better searches, drag'n'drop, cut'n'paste, etc,
but it's not like you need an emacs/vi quality editor for tweaking
the registry. |
| 1999/11/4-5 [Computer/HW, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16830 Activity:kinda low |
11/3 I've installed Director 7 Trial Version on my PC. It will expire in
30 days after the installation. I have tried to uninstall the
program and reinstall it. However the expiration date is still the
same. Is there any way to remove the time stamp so that I can use
it for a bit longer time?
\_ UR s0 k00le pir8 b0y!!11 If you're going to rip off a program,
don't be stupid about it with the lamer trial version. Go get
the fully cracked or serialed full version and get the fuck off
the motd. All other lamer resplies removed. -reel pir8!!11@
the motd. All other lamer repl1es rem0ved. -reel pir8!!11@
\_ Use regedit to look for registry keys. Search for "Director"
or "Macromedia". Or get a crack. or a serial #. Or buy the damned
program.
\_ Some programs write to the system.dat, user.dat files in Windows
\_ aka: the registry. See above.
95. Good luck editing these system files. I would suggest
installing a program like Open Trap which captures all activity
that takes place behind the scenes when installing a program, then
you can see exactly what it does and what files it effects. |
| 1999/11/4-5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:16826 Activity:moderate |
11/3 Hardware Question: I bought a computer with a 17 GB IDE hard drive.
The computer came with RedHat 6 installed. I tried to install
Windows and failed and screwed up Linux as well. When I tried to
install Linux, the install script was unable to instal LILO.
I tried installing LILO in MBR and otherwise, neither worked.
Windows install claims it works but when I finish windows install
and take the CD out to reboot, it fails to boot from the hard drive.
Now I can't install either windows or linux. My guess is neither
install script can modify the messed up MBR. Any suggestions?
\_ So many bad memories. Lilo hates booting to anything past
1024 cylinders. It's an IDE thing.
\_ Try "fdisk /mbr" or something like that. --PeterM
\_ it probably won't help you but I know for a fact WinNT does
not boot off partitions greater than 7.8something GB. This may
be general Intel X86 problem.
\_ Bullshit. You're flat dead wrong. Get off the motd.
\_ apologies. I mean a 7.8something *IDE* hard disk:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q197/6/67.ASP
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q224/5/26.ASP
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q114/8/41.ASP
now be nice! =) =) =D
\_ Thanks! This is what I needed. I also discoverd that
linux and LILO work fine if you put LILO in linear mode.
\_ does it go slower in linear mode?
be a general BIOS problem. Oh yeah, lilo will say fuck you
near the end if you want to mark a partition to be bootable
and any part of it extends beyond the first 1024 cylinders
(generally 7.8something GB). Put all bootable partitions
wholly within the first 1024 cylinders.
\_ Boot from a dos floppy. fdisk /mbr as peter says. Try again. |
| 1999/11/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16821 Activity:moderate |
11.3 Notebook Search Continues, So I see they are selling Compaq armada 3500
for $1.199.95 at compusa (their url for the add is so long I thought
i'd refrain from posting). It has 32M ram 4.1 gig HD, 12.t TFT active
matrix, and runs windows NT workstation 4.0 - (Well not if it buy it
it won't run that for long). But here are a couple of questions:
1. I thought windows nt doesn't support PCMCIA?
\_ NT doesn't support Cardbus(32bit) not PCMCIA. NT doesnt
support APM either unless you get a DEC laptop.
2. Does anyone know of any problems with using linux or freebsd with
with compaq video/audio? Thanks.
\_ there's a ML look for it. BTW most laptops come with
win-modems that dont work under linux/freebsd.
\_ hasn't anyone reversed engineered win-modems yet? it
seems like every other hardware supported on linux
was reverse engineered but win-modwms
\_ I'm running linux on a presario 1255 notebook, it is all happy
When I tried freebsd, i couldn't get it to recognize the pcmcia
(I confess I'm no expert, but with linux it was very easy)
3. Prostar makes one with a 100 Mhz bus (amd k6-3 400 Mhz) anyone know
\_WHOA! Must be the fastest PC(not) Idiot!
check your numbers... 1900 MHz bus! ha!
\_ Must've meant 19 Mhz.
\_ no, 1000Mhz, my fingers slipped.
anything about prostar?
- Paolo, notebookless in soda.
\_ sony vaios (at least the 505 series) use real modems |
| 1999/11/2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16809 Activity:moderate |
11/1 Just heard of Phat Linux [<DEAD>www.phatlinux.com]<DEAD> from a non-techie friend, read up on it, and the whole idea seems pretty damn ridiculuous. Anyone have any experience? For one thing, do they actually emulate *nixish file permissions on FAT partitions? \_ Why should they emulate anything? It's all just bits on disk, who cares where they store them? \_ Emulating Unix file permissions on top of FAT is an old concept. It's been available on Linux for some years; I recall that it was an _install option_ (UMSDOS) in the first version of Slackware I tried. There are various caveats about diminished performance and so forth. You can store a real Unix filesystem as a file within a DOS filesystem (mounted through the loopback interface) if you so desire -- thus avoiding repartitioning and still giving you a full-fledged Unix fs. This also has performance problems, and requires you to mount the DOS fs normally first, which would require the use of an initial ramdisk if you wanted to use it as a root fs for Linux. In general, a Linux install on top of a Windows system without repartitioning (and sometimes without the need to reboot for the install process) is a growing trend, because it's "kinder, gentler" to Windows users. -- schoen \_ If you read the URL, you'd see they're not doing UMSDOS or screwing around with loopbacks or single files. They are using the FAT filesystem as is without the UMSDOS shenannigans. This is a bit more impressive than the silly UMSDOS method and also easier and less scary for the low tech folks who simply want to try out a semi-real OS. Performance isn't an issue since any *nix will outperform their win98 crap on the same hardware. They don't know the performance could be even higher and that isn't important. \_ it wouldn't take too much to implement writeable rockridge extensions. the "rockridge" extensions are what give you unix permissions on a CDROM disk for example with extra hidden files that contain the unix filesystem meta-data. the dos-style filnames act kind of like inodes. |
| 1999/10/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16778 Activity:moderate |
10/27 Does the "verify" command in NT Command Prompt actually do anything?
I remember in MS-DOS, "verify" does slow down copying files to
floppies, so I guess it was doing verification. However, I just tried
copying 29 files to an empty floppy in NT with "verify off" and
"verify on", and both take the same amount of time, which seems odd.
Thx.
\_ do not trust verify or /v, in any incarnation of an MS OS
\_ And it's not like floppy disks are reliable media, anyway. |
| 1999/10/25-27 [Computer/HW/Printer, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16767 Activity:kinda low |
10/25 Hello how do we print to a win98 se box from a linux redhat 6.1
box?
\_ The 98 box needs an lpd. Last time I looked they exist but all
suck. A better way is to put the printer on the net directly
rather than use a 'printer host'. The 98 printer host idea is
silly because it's not doing anything but spooling files which
any *nix or windows machine can do just fine. You lose out on
some queue control this way, but it's easier for a small office.
If you're in a larger office, what are you using a 98 box for a
printer host anyway?
\_ just share your printer on win98 and setup a printer on redhat
as a network win98/nt printer.
\_ Why use win98 for it at all?
\_ because maybe it's a windoze printer? because maybe
the primary user prefers windoze over linux? |
| 1999/10/10-11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16685 Activity:kinda low |
10/10 Does anyone happen to know of a way *in windoze 95* to run a
program with a list of arguments > 1024 chars long? I'm trying
to link, and it's chopping off the line in the bat file at this
length. Thanks.
\_ Why are you trying to do anything beyond hello.c on a win95 box?
You do understand that it's just a dos box with a gui on it? You're
lucky M$ upped a line length to 1024. Earlier versions had 128.
\_ There is no good reason for the shell to look at only the first
32 characters after #! in UNIX. -- ilyas
\_ Isn't there some funky thing you can do with an @FOO.TXT
argument which takes the rest of the arguments from a file?
I don't know that it's standard, but I've seen a lot of
programs that supported something like that.
Barring that, if you just have a lot of object files,
couldn't you just do the windoze equivalent of
ld -x -r -o onehalf.o <half my object files>
ld -x -r -o otherhalf.o <my other object files>
gcc -o myprog onehalf.o otherhalf.o -lfoo -lbar etc.?
-brg |
| 1999/10/4-5 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16657 Activity:very high |
10/4 Do "dir *1.*" and "dir *2.*" mean anything special in NT Command
Prompt? I tried them and the output contain some filenames that
don't even contain '1' or '2'. Thanks.
\_ NT doesn't do full regexp's on the command line the way unix does.
Try 4dos/4nt/4os/4whatever from http://jpsoft.com if you want that.
\_ This is not the problem. And unix (sic) doesn't do full
regexp's (sic) on the command line (sic) either. --pld
\_ Idiot. There isn't a correct spelling for "regexp". It's
not a real word. "unix" is the correct spelling for the
word unless you're talking about AT&T UNIX(TM) which we're
not and the word "line" was correctly spelled. And no shit
unix doesn't do full regexp's on the command line but it
does do *1.* which is all the person cared about. You're a
fucking pedantic twink and you added zero content.
\_ Here's your content: (sic) doesn't mean "misspelled".
I'd have deleted the answer for being incorrect and
misleading, but some twink like you would have re-added
it. See below for a correct response. --pld
\_ Worse than being stupid is being stupid and thinking
you're right. "sic" means "spelling incorrect". You
are beyond stupid. The answer lies in the shell being
unable to do what s/he wants. http://jpsoft.com can do that.
Saying, "win95 has long file names!!!" is worthless.
How'd you sneak into Cal? Or have standards really
dropped so low that they now socially promote morons
straight into what used to be top notch universities?
\_ Worse than that is adamantly promoting
error. "sic" does *not* mean "spelling
incorrect"--it is from latin, and means
"thus". It is typically used when quoting
text to roughly mean "I'm quoting this guy
exactly, so please don't tell me I've made a
mistake--it was his mistake." In this case,
I assume it was used because "Unix" is
usually capitalized (and is a trademark of
AT&T, right?). Furthermore, you usually
\_ Unix hasn't been a trademark of AT&T for
about a decade, since they spun off USL,
which they later sold to Novell, who gave
the trademark to X/Open (now part of The
Open Group) to use with their standards.
Any OS meeting the X/Open requirements can
now call itself "Unix (TM)" (or a more
specific term like "Unix95",
"Unix98 Desktop", "Unix98 Server").
don't put apostrophe-s at the end of a word
to make it plural (though it is acceptable
usage for acronymns, etc. so is probably
okay for "regexp").
\_ No, no, no. When you're quoting another and
you're quoting *their* mincorrectly spelled
text, you use "sic" to state that you're aware
the spelling is incorrect and you're just
quoting it that way. "thus"? No. That makes
no sense. It's a journalism thing in modern
English. No matter what the original latin
intended.
\_ You are correct in stating correct usage for
[sic] but the etimology of the word is indeed
Latin. -- ilyas
\_ I'm not denying a latin origin. I'm saying
it doesn't matter. Looking in one's
Latin 10 Latin->English dictionary won't
yield the correct modern/journalism usage.
That's all.
\_ etimology[sic]. You mean etymology. --dim
\- 1. sic is indeed latin. reasonable translations are
"thus" or "so, but the most natural obviously depends on the context.
2. i will make a wager with anyone who claims it only means "a mis-
spelling inthe original". it can be used as a "disclaimer" about
spelling errors, grammatical errors, factual errors...whatever. this
is a pretty funny "classic soda" thread. sic vos non vobis, --psb
\_ remember Win95 long filenames kluge? Therein lies your answer.
\_ Sorry, I don't know about that in Win95 either. Can you please
elaborate? Thanks.
\_ Long filenames show up in dos 8.3 format as something
like "filena~1.txt" -- that is, filenames are
truncated, with a "~" char and a number to
disambiguate. Hence any file with more than 8 chars
before the extension or more than one dot will end in
"~#". So the pattern above can match *a lot* of files.
\_ Unless you grab one of the command line replacements
from http://jpsoft.com which handles this as you'd expect with
out using the odd 8.3 LFN kludge as you'd not expect. |
| 1999/10/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16638 Activity:nil |
9/30 In NT command prompt, do "dir *1.*" and "dir *2.*" have any special
meaning? I was trying to list files like "foo1.txt" and "foo2.txt"
but the commands also listed some other file whose names don't even
contain '1' or '2'. Thanks. -- yuen
\_ NT doesn't have real globbing/regular expression matching. |
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9/29 What app is associated with the MIME type "application/ms-tnef"?
And when I save the content to a file, what file extension should
I use? Thx.
\_ You should delete it if you see it. It's MS Exchange/Outlook
crap that's useless to the rest of the world. |
| 1999/9/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16603 Activity:high |
9/26 Any comments on a problem someone just sent me in the mail:
'HIMEM.SYS is missing Please make sure this file is in your windows
directory' then the computer opens in DOS not windows 95 (which I
went back to after all my win 98 problems). Anyway, I've checked
the wondows directory and the himem.sys file is there so I don't know
what the problem is. Any suggestions?
-DOS ignoramous
\_ Try to use tabs next time.
\_ The file may be exist, but might be corrupted. Check it's checksum
against the one found on the original Windows installation CD.
\_ Fdisk, reinstall. Run a non-MS low level disk checker on the
drive. No, scandisk doesn't count.
\_ Scandisk is bad? I thought it's already better than chkdsk.
\_ Just because scandisk is better than an ancient piece of
I'll look at it.
crap, doesn't mean you should use it. Scandisk is the
modern crap version of checkdisk. M$ put it there only
to make you feel good. Get a non-Microsoft disk checking
program such as Spinrite at http://grc.com. Spinrite does things
MS would never let a consumer idiot do because you're
obviously too stupid in their eyes to know what you're
doing. Spinrite is not part of the "M$ Windows First
Time Experience". You're welcome. http://grc.com
\_ if you want, put the following somewhere on soda: config.sys,
autoexec.bat, himem.sys, dir listings of C:\ and C:\WINDOWS,
and msdos.sys. I'll look at it.
\_ Ran into this before. Find another Win95 machine and copy the
HIMEM.SYS file straight into your hozed machine.
\_ Did you do something stupid like delete the msdos.sys file? |
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