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| 1999/9/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16576 Activity:nil |
9/24 how do you pass x-windows over ssh (port 22)? info on how to do this
on a windows machine would be doubly helpful. |
| 1999/9/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16529 Activity:nil |
9/15 I installed linux but it sucks. How can I get my win95 back so I
can get back to doing real work instead of screwing with config
files? I have the cd but no boot floppies.
\_ get a boot floppy. send me an e-mail if you still need one; i'll
put up an image -jctwu
\_ .netrc . I wouldn't recommend it, though. --dim
\_ use expect. |
| 1999/9/15-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16528 Activity:high |
9/15 RFI- I'm trying to write a quick prototype driver for a windows
based pen-input device. I have my choice of M$ OSes (95, NT, or
WDM w/ 98 & 2000), and my primary concern is choosing a development
path that won't screw me over later on. Again, this is just a
prototype driver, so extensibility, compatibility, support for
plugnplay, power management, NSA encryption standards and the like
take second place to simplicity and having a not-so-steep learning
curve. If the code's already written, I don't want to do it again.
Any opinions, tips for newbies, references, book reviews appreciated.
--mjm
\_ Have u taken a look in the NT or 95/98 DDK? It contains
sample source for drivers for many diff. type of input and
networking devices. Available only w/ msdn subscription. Email
me if u want a copy. --sky
\_ A copy of MSDN? Or the DDK?
\_ DDK. its ~ 30 megs. MSDN is like 50 CDs
me if u want a copy (of the DDK). --sky
\_ if the interface is USB, you want 98. Otherwise, as you look
a natural conclusion -jctwu
\_ I'm doing a similar thing... how easy is it do this under Linux?
\_ scp
a natural conclusion -jctwu
\_ Any pointers to a solid, readable, extendible driver for Linux?
\_ Any pointers to a solid, readable, extendible driver?
\_ Yes, but I agree with what appears to be the consensus in what
I've read elsewhere- it's poorly put together and hard to use.
Does anyone have comments on Numega's Driver Studio?
-mjm |
| 1999/9/10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16501 Activity:high |
9/10 Does anyone else have a problem Resuming from a Suspend in
Windows 95 with an ethernet card installed? It hangs on
my computer; I notice that msgsrv32 is Not Responding.
Short of a coerced upgrade to Windows 98, is there a bug fix
for this? Please e-mail me, thanks. --pcjr
\_ really, son. it's windows.
\_ suspend just isn't all that in Win95 ... 98 is better tho
\_ As the above says, it's just windows. win98 won't be that much
better. Either turn off suspend in which case your batteries will
drain down or just do lots of reboots the way Bill intended it to be. |
| 1999/9/9-10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:16491 Activity:high |
9/9 Read http://www.multicians.org/general.html#tag14 for where Domain/OS came from. \_ oh just shut up. You got trolled. \_ so who won? -The troller, because he got a response or the trollee because he sucessfully fended off misinformation? \_ there are no motd winners, only losers. \_ trolling isn't about misinformation. trolling is about getting a nearly 2 page long motd by doing nothing more than saying, "No, you're wrong, I'm right, go away". Works like a charm everytime. This one was especially good. |
| 1999/9/9-10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16486 Activity:moderate |
9/8 Looking for a job at an internet startup.
See http://csua.berkeley.edu/~jules/resume.txt
\_ Look at all those obsolete OS'es - Domain/OS, AIX 3, Ultrix.
This guy must be ancient.
\_ OK, let's stop this! At my job, C/C++ is considered outdated by java
\_ Can you read? He graduated in 95. That means he's about 25 or
26. If you had clue, you'd know those aren't obsolete OS's.
They're older unix variants which are 98% the same as any unix
you'll use today. Idiot. -not jules
\_ I graduated in 99, and I'm 26. Don't assume too much.
(And Domain/OS is definetly nowhere near 98% the same
as any other OS - it's a world all it's own.) -alan-
\_ Not my fault you took so long. D/OS is still a unix
variant. It's 98% like every other unix. What? You
think it's so radically different from other unixes
that it deserves it's own category? Get real. Unix is
as unix does.
\_ Do you have any experience with Domain OS?
It's not UNIX. It's an OS based on Multics,
written in Pascal with a mostly-UNIX-compatible
layer on top. Most of the OS is very non-UNIX.
-alan- (Domain/OS user since 1990 and still have
an Apollo workstation at home)
\_ Yup. It's not unix in the same way linux isn't
unix. Thanks for the history lesson.
\_ Linux is much closer to Unix than Domain/OS.
Domain has a completely different set of
commands and APIs, even it's GUI is nothing
like X Windows.
\_ X != unix. So you're trying to claim
that D/OS isn't a unix because it's got
a few differences from [your unix here]?
That's silly. It's just a unix variant.
It isn't unique. It isn't MacOS. It
isn't Windows. It isn't vms/cms/*ms.
It's just a unix variant. Get over it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm beginning to wonder whether the speaker _/
has ever used DOMAIN/OS.
\_ The speaker has definitely never used anything in /com.
People should get clued before arguing with alanc.
is not UNIX. By the way, CMS is not
-not alan-
\_ Did you actually read alan's comment
above? He said D/OS is a Multics
variant, not a UNIX variant. Multics
is not UNIX.
\_ He can say anything he wants. D/OS
is a unix variant. He can say
anything he wants about anything.
His saying so doesn't make it true.
\_ Join the MNU Software
Foundation Today!
say "Manure"
\- say "laser"
Go join OCF and you
can learn about D/OS on their Apollo
machines. By the way, CMS is not
\_ Not any more. OCF got rid
of all the Apollos.
an OS. It's a shell on top of VM
which is an OS. -- yuen (VM/CMS user)
\_ It's not unix in the same way NT is not
UNIX. Both can be made to act mostly
like UNIX, but are vastly different
underneath.
\_ D/OS = unix. NT != unix. Thanks
for caring.
\_ NT with cygwin is actually a
useable UNIX variant.
DomainOS/Aegis was Apollo OS that was given
a Unix-Like wrapper.
\_ If it walks like a duck and talks like a
duck...
\_ Don't be so quick to flame - the original post wasn't
based on ignorance, just on giving julian a hard time.
\_ Even worse. |
| 1999/9/4-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:16467 Activity:high |
9.5 61c section now taught in NT lab using vc++. It is the beginning
of a new era.
\_ Classes using nt: 61c, cs152, cs160, cs169, even ee122 let us
write a webserver in visual c++ if we wanted to. It's nothing
new. - paolo
\_ you forgot 184 in this post-sgi era.
\_ At least Culler is still using the 61c project Phil Nunez
designed for nweaver. (Is he going to make them overflow
buffers and become uber-hackers as well?)
\_ If I hurry, I can graduate before Visual Spim comes out.
\_ At least for now 61A and 162 is safe from the forces ofevil.
Harvey would never allow 61A to be taught on Windows and no
professor in their right mind would ever ask their student
to run Nachos or simulate an OS on Windows. Soon, the
concept of time sharing and high utilization will be gone
from the CS dept.
\_ Actually, Professor Joseph recently ported NACHOS to Windows.
There goes the neighborhood.
\_ Why the heck are professors willing to go through all the
trouble to PORT things to Windows, and barely able to
lift a finger when it comes to the tiniest and most
bleedingly necessary maintenance programming tasks
under Unix? -brg, who only bitches because he usually
ends up doing it for them
\_ Because they know they're teaching a bunch of morons
who use the NT workstations on the 3rd floor of Soda
to log into less powerful machines only to run
Nachos and inadvertently cause a denial of service
on the cpu servers.
\_ Because they have foo and you don't,
They're big and you're small --
And there's nothing you can do about it! :P
\_ I wonder if they feel unix is obsolete?
\_ I don't see how they could make that decision informedly.
\_ Because they get tons and tons of free hardware if they
run NT systems and nothing or near nothing if they run
unix. Get Sun to start donating free hardware like Intel
is and you'll get unix based classes. About $5 or $6
million in Sun hardware would go a long way. In recent
years Intel has donated more than this. Sun is cheap so
you get NT. Unix is dead in .edu.
\_ Sun donates millions to the research side/
\_ uh, Intel donated $6 million to Cal and the machines are
nearly all running Linux. -tom
\_ You mean Solaris?
\_ Solaris x86 is out, linux is in. -tom
\_ call me a foolio, but seeing Half-Life TFC
on linux servers is all the evidence I need
\_ Wrong. The few toys handed out to students didn't cost
$6m. The bulk of them are NT machines run by UC staff.
Once again, you show you have no idea what you're talking
about and insist on demonstrating your ignorance in
public. Do yourself a favor and stop now before the next
generation of students figure it out, too.
\_ uh, I am referring to the Millennium Project, and I
personally run 30 of the machines, all running
Linux. The campus-wide cluster, for which a gigabit
backbone is being built, will be all Linux. The CS
NOW is moving from Solaris to Linux.
Now exactly who is demonstrating their ignorance? Oh I
forgot, you were too fucking wimpy to sign your name. -tom
\_ Hi tom, aren't those for the grads to use? I believe
the discussion was about _undergrad_ machines.
\_ I was responding to the idiot who said "Unix
is dead in .edu" and "because they get tons of
money if they run windows and nothing if they
run Unix." Why would Intel give a shit what OS
you're running? -tom
\_ Whoa!!! 30 whole machines!!! Wow! That's like
most of the $6m!!! tom, dude, you are the man!
With 30 whole machines you sure proved that idiot
wrong! Imagine that? Tom has 30 machines and
runs Linux on them, therefore the bulk of the
other machines *must* also be running Linux.
\_ I have been at the planning meetings, have you,
idiot? How many are YOU running? -tom
[here's my reply that was erased twice] :
\_ I was at planning meetings while you were still
in school. Didn't see you there. Anyway, I
find your 30 machine cluster very cute. I'm
proud of you, boy. You've done good. |
| 1999/9/4-5 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16463 Activity:moderate |
9/4 From comp.protocols.tcp-ip:
W. Richard (Rich) Stevens, author of several Unix and TCP/IP books,
passed away in Tucson on September 1.
\_ D'OH! Stevens was the man.
\_ Yeah, people die every second all over the world... and?
\_ Real CSUA members have at least one of his books.
A number of us have actually met him. Just because
you were never fortunate enough to do so doesn't mean
others wouldn't want to know.
\_ I own a bible but wouldn't care if Jesus and the 12
came back and dropped dead again.
\_ that's too b/sad. what did he die of?
\_ PING OF DEATH
\_ BSOD.
\_ Too many pot stickers.
\_ Hopeless idiots like me asking dumb questions all the time. -mtbb
\_ Obit on http://www.slashdot.org |
| 1999/9/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16441 Activity:moderate |
8/31 Ignorant Windoz 98 question. Windoz advised me to run this
program under MS-DOS mode, click OK and it ran. But it
crashed and computer got stuck. I had to reboot the system
using all good ctrl-alt-del keys. But then Windoz wanted
to run the program again, then it crashed again, then I
had to reboot again, then again and again. How do I tell
Windoz to stop running the stupid program?
\_ Easy. Ignore windows. Windows will create a DOS shortcut
in the directory of the program, edit the properties for
that. Click on Program -> Advanced. Uncheck MS-DOS Mode
Uncheck "Warn before Entering MSDOS" - jlee
\_ Install FreeBSD
\_ Which program does Win98 want you to run? When does Win98 ask
you to run the prog?
\_ How about boot into Command (or Dos) mode and run the program.
If it still crashed, then don't install Linux. Instead, Ride bike.
\_ No no...Windows keeps trying to run the program
because the program crashed and Windows thinks it
hasn't run the program. So at each reboot, it tries
to run the porgram. How do I tell Windows to stop
running the program?
\_ oh man! i used to know this. windows uses config.dos
& autoexec.dos - named to the operational ones when
in DOS mode. press <F8> when you see "Starting Windows."
select command prompt only. rename those two files. and
try typing in win (though there is actually another
command specific to solve this)
\_ look for a reference to the program in C:\WINDOWS\[win|system].ini,
the Start Menu -> Programs -> StartUp folder, run regedit and look
up HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/
Run*. If you can't get that far then boot Windows 98 in safe
mode with F8 and make changes there. |
| 1999/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16426 Activity:kinda low |
8/29 Looking for free pre-compiled windows NT ssh client that can port
forward and compress. I have secure crt but the port forwarding
didn't work. I found some hokey thing from a guy in the UK but I
have this funny "don't trust it" feeling about it. Specifically, I'm
trying to vnc via ssh from a windows machine through a *nix box to a
windows box if it makes a difference to anyone.
\_ Try TTSSH: http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html or better yet
run unix at home. Then you can just
ssh -f -C other-unix-box vncviewer windows-box:0
--dbushong
\_ I don't want to install another OS just because my current
client sucks. That's overkill. Thanks for the url. Anyway, my
current path is already windows->unix firewall->windows. I don't
want win->unix at home->firewall->windows. It's not worth it. |
| 1999/8/28-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16414 Activity:moderate |
8/27 Career Fare on 9/1. Come check us out, Compaq.
Specifically, Alpha Development Group. --ricky
\_ Are they still deemed "fastest microprocessor in the world" or
have they lost that title to Intel?
\_ Compaq needs new talent badly to replace all the engineers that
jumped off the sinking ship to go work for Intel & Sun.
\_ They had actually lost it to HP (PA-RISC 2.0 8500), but they
regained it again about a month ago with the new 750MHz chip.
--sowings
\_ If its any consolation, they just abandoned their NT on Alpha
product, so you wont have to worry about working on that.
\_ Why would anyone care about running NT on an Alpha. You
only get Alpha's cuz you want to make outragiously expensive
Cray computers or workstations and such. Seriously, what NT
Alpha programs have you seen out there?
\_3dsmax and other graphic rendering wares perform better on
alpha. open mouth, insert foot, swallow, close mouth.
\_ Funny thing is, internal message said "No more 32bit NT, but yes
more 64bit NT." And then, Microsoft said, "No more Alpha NT."
Maybe we pissed them off. --ricky
\_ Hmm... Sun said they'd be here for "the Berkeley Career Fair on
Tuesday, 8/31" (10am - 4pm, Student Union - Pauley Ballroom)
Wonder who has the date wrong.
\_ Neither one. Different companies on different days.
See http://career.berkeley.edu/fairs/fairsCareer.stm |
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| 1999/8/25-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16395 Activity:high |
8/24 Does anyone know of a low-level copy program like dd for Windows/DOS?
I have a dying hard drive that I want a direct duplicate of.
\_ I always wondered what the difference between using dd and cp-ing
an image to /dev/??? was.
\_ dd of=/dev/... opens /dev/... and writes to it
cp foo /dev/... removes /dev/... and replaces it with foo
\_ not really.
\_ Yes really, on anything remotely UNIX
\_ What? I cp boot.img /dev/fd0 all
the time and it doesn't destroy the
block file.
(unless you specify -i or don't have permission)
\_ Boot a Linux rescue floppy, mount any FAT partitions you might
care to, and then use dd (which is on any Linux rescue system).
Note that you can get rescue floppy images for free on the
net, can write them under Win32, and can reap some of the
benefits of Unix without even installing Linux on a fixed disk.
Or try out PicoBSD. -- schoen
\_ If you can't use *nix, try Symantec Ghost. -John
\_ How about dd.exe? Don't have a URL, but you should be able to
find it. --dim
\_ How can you refer to raw devices under DOS? Or is it a version
of dd that just intrinsically understands them?
\_ Pretty much all of the unix2dos ports of various tools were
rewritten intelligently. Sure, there are bad ports out
there, but anything worth using will be ok with it.
\_ There's a rawrite.exe which you can get from various linux sites
which does raw disk writes in DOS. -tom |
| 1999/8/24-26 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16390 Activity:very high |
8/24 Question. Which ISP is good for 24 hours and is reliable? I am
willing to spend up to $30/month. Also, which auto password and
auto Windows 95 dialer is good to download? Thanks.
\_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Tax Advisor.
\_ /bin/cat you fool!
\_ $30! That's pretty steep for an ISP. Might as well spend a
few extra bucks and get cable modem or DSL.
\_ What's wrong with the MS one? It allows scripting, and pretty
much never fails. Been using it since 95 came out with no problems.
\_ Perhaps the inquirer has a social conscience and does not want
to unnecessarily patronize an evil company.
\_ If they're already using Win 95 they've sold their soul
to BillG already and using the software included with Win95
won't make any difference to anyone
\_ giving him $20 a month will.
\_ No, this is in reference to the autodialer part of
the second question, not the ISP part. You don't
have to give BillG $20/month to use the built in
authodialer... yet.
\_ Another question-- where can I find an auto-dialer that dials
in the ISP and puts in password automatically?
\_ I answered this already. Use the one included in windows.
It works perfectly. I've used it for years on 95, 98 and
NT without any problems. It isn't glitzy, but it works.
\_ NO YOU DUMB ASS. I want to log in when the computer
is rebooted, and would redial AUTOMATICALLY.
\_ That's easy. I know how to do that and used to
do so but I won't tell you since you're such a
little shit. It's your own fault for not being
clear since there is a commonly accepted
definition of an autodialer and your mis-use of
the term is not my fault. Good luck getting
help from someone else with that attitude.
\_ Why do you need to be connected 24 hours a day?
If you're running a server, Win95 is just about
the stupidest choice possible, and you probably
want "always on" DSL instead of dialup. |
| 1999/8/22-24 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16370 Activity:low |
8/21 My laptop hangs after resuming from a Suspend to Disk with a PC
Card inserted (TDK Global Networker 3410 or a 3Com card).
Ejecting the card prior to suspend eliminates the problem.
I notice that if I bring up a list of programs when it hangs,
msgsrv32 is listed as Not Responding. I'm using Windows 95 OSR2.
What's wrong? (Aside from using a Microsoft product.) --pcjr
\_ msgsrv32 is one of the most buggy M$ support apps - it restarts
explorer after a crash for example, but can't restart itself.
resintall windows
\_ Why don't you try Microsoft tech support? Oh wait, never mind.
That was just an oxymoron.
\_ Install all new drivers, update all patches, remove all unecessary
software and hardware, give up, reformat, install linux, ride bike! |
| 1999/8/14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16314 Activity:high |
8/13 Anybody use opera browser? I like it a lot but I'm too cheap to
buy it. I tried deleting the files and re-installing a newer
version, but that still doesn't get around the 30 day trial thing.
Anybody know of a way to tweak it under win95? Thanks -cheap ass
\_ Use regedit, find the entry for the browser, delete the entry,
delete the browser, change the date on your computer to 50 years
into the future, install it again, and then change the date
on your computer 50 years back.
\_ yeah, reinstall win95. |
| 1999/8/5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16262 Activity:nil |
8/5 Windows 2000 is sooo secure!
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/19990804/tc/19990804340.html |
| 1999/7/30-31 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16207 Activity:moderate |
7/29 I have a friend. Or rather, I had a friend. I very recently
killed him. My friend believed he could safely install linux
on a partition on my win95 machine while I slept. The long and
short of the story is that he couldn't, and I now have no DOS
partitions. I don't think any of the data was screwed up, but the
partitions aren't there anymore. Could someone recommend a
utility or two to try to recover some files? -mjm
\_ need more info about your current state. does linux boot up?
if it does you can recover much of the fat32 partition and place
it on some storage medium. try running fips and see what the
partitioning tables look like
\_ where did you bury the corpse?
\_ Linux boots up. The partition table is all jacked. (It's
got the part's that linux created, but there nothing like
what the original were.) I've got FAT16, if that matters.
I do kinda remember what the partition sizes were.
\_ by, the way, it would probably better if you run
/sbin/fdisk and type p to print out the partition table
and post the results on the motd. --jeff
\_ If you would like to backup your dos partition here's
what you do. In the /etc/fstab file and add the entry
/dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat defaults 0 0
or something like that. the first field is the device
that your dos partition is on and /mnt/dos is the directory
that you want to mount your dos partition. then issue
the command "mount /dev/hda1" and you can access your dos
partition in /mnt/dos. How you get that drived backed
up is another story. Too complicated?
Try going into your /etc/lilo.conf file. If you're using
RedHat you might have an entry like
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
If there isn't one add it and run /sbin/lilo. Of course
make sure that /dev/hda1 is where your dos partition is.
Reboot your computer and at the LILO: prompt type "dos"
and it should boot up into Windows. Deleting the linux
\_ Your friend did you a big favor. Its about time you accepted that
Win95 is obsolete and started using the best technology that is
available: Linux 2.2.x. Don't recover your DOS partitions, forget
about the dark side and start living in the future of computing.
partition (I'm not sure why you want to do that) is a
matter of running fips or partition magic and running
fdisk /MBR at the dos prompt. Hope that helps. --jeff |
| 1999/7/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16191 Activity:high |
7/23 Can someone install Windows 98 on soda? I miss solitaire and notepad.
\_ xsol, xedit
\_ And I miss rebooting a machine once a while too.
\_ What about minesweeper and freecell? unix suks!
\_ i've got linux and have all 3 on my computer. those games are
pretty stupid anyway so i don't play them.
\_ both available in gnome and other versions.
\_ I want Notepad!! Including the 70k file size limit!! Gimme!! |
| 1999/7/23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16189 Activity:low |
7/22 Finally! Absolute proof that windows is the best OS!
Check this out: <DEAD>www.freeyellow.com:8080/members7/geraldholmes<DEAD>
\_ That's pretty funny. I wonder if that's what Bill Gates sounds
like in real life. |
| 1999/7/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:16183 Activity:nil |
7/22 No, I don't read M$NBC news but here is an interesting article
about BSD vs. Linux (linked off from http://slashdot.org). --linux user
http://www.msnbc.com/news/292376.asp |
| 1999/7/20 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16169 Activity:high |
7/20 My company's firewall disconnects me if I am idle for 5 minutes.
Is there a telnet program that automatically sends out space
bar or whatever? For Win95/NT. Thanks!
\_ #!/bin/csh -f
while (1)
echo "I'm an idle hozer"
sleep 60
end
\_ Idle timeouts liek that are soo lame. If you're using ssh, you
can always redirect a port and run something over that. The
problem is that you need to be generating data packets from
your 95/NT side on the connection. Of course it goes
without saying that NT/95 Sucks for that, so you're on your
own here. -ERic
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| _ | (_| | |_) | |_) | |_| | | |_) | | | | |_| | | | (_| | (_| | |_| |_
|_| |_|\__,_| .__/| .__/ \__, | |____/|_|_| \__|_| |_|\__,_|\__,_|\__, ( )
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/ ___ \ |_| | |_) | || |___
/_/ \_\___/|____/___|_____|
\_ who the fuck is aubie?
\_ who the fuck cares? |
| 1999/7/20 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16165 Activity:moderate |
7/19 More NT security hole:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q221/9/91.ASP
\_ Why do you folks keep posting old MS holes? Subscribe to the
MS security bulletin service and ntbugtraq and be done with it.
\_ B3CUZ L1NUX 1Z TH3 P3RF3CKT 0S W1TH AB0LUT3L3 N0 S3KUR1TY
H0L3S AT ALL, D00D!!1!! TH1Z PRUV3S 1T!!1!!!
\_ Also http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q234/5/57.ASP |
| 1999/7/19-20 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16162 Activity:high |
7/19 Where can I find the program that optimizes my Win95 TCP/IP stack?
I forgot the name of the program (that modifies my registry). PLEASE,
don't say "format HD, install Linux" or something to that effect. Thx!
\_ I think I remember some programs in http://winfiles.com that let you
do this. It's not hard to find but all it does is modify
you network registry settings (MTU, timeout values, TTL crap,
etc...) You can pretty much do the same thing by using regedit.
-- linux user.
PC so I can cut
\_ Could you be talking about:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/downloads/dp2888.asp
\_ I think you're talking about
<DEAD>www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/modem/faq_a.htm#HalfSpeed<DEAD>
\_ format HD, install FreeBSD
\_ install NT. preconfigured foor optiomal internet speeds! |
| 1999/7/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16159 Activity:kinda low |
7/18 Wow, has anybody seen this: "We use Pentium Pro computers running
the BSDI UNIX operating system with Apache Web server software."
that's from http://www.winfiles.com/about/faq.html a site deticated
to providing Windows 95/98/NT shareware. Why aren't they running IIS?
\_ Even Microsoft's not stupid enough to run IIS/NT - both Hotmail
& portions of MSN run on Unix (FreeBSD & Solaris) boxes with Apache
servers.
\_ Apparently http://ebay.com's front end (those static pages with
pictures and ads) is served by NT/IIS while their backend
Oracle database search engine is ran by Sun Solaris. When
http://ebay.com went down MS decided to release a press statement
boasting how the backend went down but not the front end.
This is not surprising since the front end isn't really
responsible for much and I bet ebay chose Solaris over NT
for good reason.
\_ So when someone's front end NT/IIS goes down does M$ release
a press statement saying it's their front end that geos down?
\_ Of course they don't, or else their PR dept will be very
very busy everyday.
\_ Microsoft's employees' webpages are served by a separate entity
that uses that solution. Yep, Ebay's site went belly up when the
Sun big iron (E10000) went belly up. Ebay and Sun were pointing
fingers at each other for the cause of the problem. Something about
some OS patches they didn't install.
\_ Here is some good reading for those of you have time to blow. It's
somewhat biased but I personally think it's written fairly (unlike
the motd's "LINUX IS WORTHLESS USE WINDOZE" or "WINDOZ SUX USE
LINUX" comments). Most of it is well written, lots of links, and
only the graphs lack explaination.
http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch |
| 1999/7/12-14 [Computer/SW/Security, Transportation/Bicycle, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16115 Activity:high |
7/12 a good windows mail client that supports pgp? Wait, i know, RIDE
BIKE, use linux, I DO, but i need *others* to use pgp with and
the others use windows.
\_ Outlook
\_ Outlook? What version? Last v. I tried was complete trash.
\_ ok, pardon my ignorance, but could someone please explain the
connection betwen Linux and RIDE BIKE ?
\_ Guessing: someone is mocking the attitude/mentality of both
groups?
\_ How does that differ from the 50 million "Windoz Rulez,
\_ Who said it differed?
use windows" that also go on the motd, not to mention that
their attitudes and mentality are usually worse. I also
seem to remember a quote, "drive a fucking car you hippie"
posted somewhere on a long ago motd showing taht non-bike
riders are just about as bad.
\_ PGP for Windows (commercial, from NAI) will integrate
well with Eudora Light or Pro. However, Eudora light
tends to corrupt important Windows files and generally
suck. --dbushong
\_ ride bike.
\_ use freebsd.
\_ use linux.
\_ freebsd >> linux
\_ use Motd::Public;
\_ Less filling >> tastes great |
| 1999/7/12-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16107 Activity:low |
7/11 What have people's experiences been running win95/98 under linux
using VMware?
\_ Anyone ever try to get vmware running under freebsd? -John
\_ Don't know about 95/98 but NT runs great. When that piece of shit
NT crashes you can just restart your virtual system and it starts
running again.
\_ This seems like a great way for cs 162 students to get to
run FreeBSD instead of running nachos.
\_ VMware seems to want to only create its own win95.dsk file
instead of using an existing win95 partition. Is there a way
to tell it to use something like /dev/hda3 instead?
\_ how is speed relative to native execution. is it unbearably slow
like wine? |
| 1999/7/9 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16094 Activity:nil |
07/08 NT vs. Linux rematch.
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,1015266,00.html |
| 1999/7/9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16091 Activity:high |
07/09 I just installed Microsoft Visual Basic and had to reboot my
computer 3 times (once to install a new version of IE, once
to install some Java stuff, and again to install VB). I
don't know much about Windows, but why is rebooting all the
time necessary? This is not a troll; I'm just curious what
OS design choice requires this.
\_ It has to do with unloading and reloading registry settings.
Apparently, windows does a poor job of loading new registry settings
on the fly. Other OSes don't have such registry concept?
\_ Win32 systems are designed to be highly dependent on common,
dynamically-loaded/-linked libraries (DLLs). On the shutdown,
DLLs are unloaded so that they can be updated on the next
boot. Hold down the Shift key when you reboot, so that you don't
do a full one. |
| 1999/7/5-6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16076 Activity:moderate |
7/5 Show all those linux freaks how superior Windows NT Internet
Information Server is over Apache. Check out:
http://www.eeye.com/database/advisories/ad06081999/ad06081999.html
A web server just isn't a web server unless you can execute
arbitrary commands remotely without authentication.
\_ This is old as the hills. Why don't you post solaris 2.3 holes
too? Be about as meaningful. Every decent admin on the planet
patched this long before you heard of it.
\_ Every decent admin wasn't using such flaky software to begin
with. |
| 1999/6/21-22 [Academia/GradSchool, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16000 Activity:very high |
6/21 Divx, Beta (tape), OS/2, etc are all failures form the beginning.
What are other examples of failed formats?
\_ motd postings like this which are obvious troll attempts.
\_ DOS, Windows
\_ No, I think we all *wish* it failed.
\_ NNNNNN!!!! DOS was a fantastic success. So was windows.
\_ Minidisc, DCC cassettes, VCDs, CDi, Cable Modems, Vanilla Ice,
(Lynx/GameGear/TurboExpress), Sega 32x, Alcohol-free college
campuses, XL Spandex, men's hairpieces.
\_ American Cars
\_ Keep telling yourself that the next time a Corvette
passes your loud exhausted Honda wanna be ass. -ax
\_ and promptly runs outta gas.
\_ Anyone who can afford a corvette can afford a tank
of gas. don't be bitter Mr. Econbox-Driver.
\_ I've driven a Corvette. You hit the accelerator,
and the gas gauge dips. You gotta admit, a
CRX gets a lot more miles in 10 gallons than
a Corvette in 16, unless the driver thinks it's
a Porsche (why *do* CRX drivers do that?)
killed for non-technology related reasons.
\_ Beta is very much alive, albeit not in the consumer market.
The television / media industry still extensively uses it.
And last I checked, OS/2 is still breathing, if not 2 heartbeats
a minute.
\_ isn't there a difference between Betmax and Betacam?
Besides, ED-Beta is to Betamax like SVHS is to VHS.
\_ Long's Drugs in Alameda still sells blank Beta tapes. -- yuen
\_ OS2 is also alive, but not in the consumer market. You're confused.
It was certainly not a failure at the beginning and isn't a failure
today. It's still a better OS than anything MS made. It was
killed for non-technology related reasons.
\_ That is correct, OS/2 is a huge seller in the embedded market.
Most of the time when you go to an ATM machine or use voice
mail at work, you are using OS/2... -SMurF
\_IBM doesn't even use OS/2, at least at Almaden.
for thinking it.
I think this is the definition of dead, at least
in this case.
\_ No it doesn't define anything. IBM isn't
the same kind of business that's using OS2.
Certainly a single site's lack of use means
nothing. It's a *HUGE* company.
\_ I worked at Almaden in 1991 and I was using OS/2
2.0. Can't believe it's been dropped. BTW
MS-owned hotmail doesn't use MS web server
either. Is MS web server dead? -- yuen
\_ Sorry to burst your bubble, but OS/2 1.0 was made
jointly by IBM & MS, before MS pulled out to work
on NT instead.
\_ You're not bursting anything. Why do you think
you're clever posting known and ancient info
that isn't relevent? Why the need to feel smart?
\_ It was claimed it was better than anything
MS made, but it was made by MS, therefore
you are claiming it is better than itself?
\_ Uh oh, wannabe deep thinking philosopher
on the prowl! Look out! MS didn't make
it. An IBM/MS product is not a MS
product. OS2 v1.0 is not the version in
use today. v2.x is which had even less
to do with MS, namely nothing of note.
MS has yet to develop anything original
in their corporate history. The idea
that MS has *made* anything is a
laughable lie. Be ashamed of yourself
for thinking it. How much M$ do you
own? It's clouding your judgement.
\_ You probably think Shakespeare never
*made* anything either, huh?
\_ Hahahhahah You think BG is
Shakespeare? My God! You *are*
incredibly stupid!
\_ "Bob" was original. Damn stupid,
but still original.
\_ Ok, you got me. MS made Bob. I
retract previous statements about
total lack of MS creativity. MS
made Bob. Can't argue with that.
\_ how does "Bob" run on today's
faster/bigger hardware? (it
was _Mrs_ Gates' project, btw)
\_ Ford Edsel. (Okay - it's not a "format", but then neither is OS/2) |
| 1999/5/25-27 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15874 Activity:high |
5/25 Does anyone know any good (and preferrably free) x-server for
Win 95/NT?
\_ <DEAD>www.uk.research.att.com/vnc<DEAD>
it's free and the whole thing can fit on a floppy. I haven't
used it, but have heard good things about it.
\_ an X server VNC is not. But its still pretty cool. -ERic
\_ Hilarious, slow, crashes really creatively (even for me) -John
\_ Use 8 bit graphics and stop trying to play netrek over it.
If the server is a unix box, it works great, the NT server
puts a huge cpu load on the host due to lack of open NT
source leading to much guessing on the developer's part.
Crashing? RTFM, John. NT has multiple screen modes.
\_ I dont know how good it is but here's a free one:
http://aquarius.franken.de/software/net/X/MI_X/mix_faq.html -ERic
\_ Exceed from Hummingbird, but it costs $
\_ it's free on campus/to students
\_ anon ftp http://tuna2.berkeley.edu/pub/depot/x513wnt.exe
\_ depot has 6.x versions online which are pretty
much the same as 5.x but cleaned up a bit. More
of a 5.2 than a 6.1 but I'm not working in the
Hummingbird marketting department.
\_ X-Win32, available from http://www.starnet.com -- yuen |
| 1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15847 Activity:high |
5/20 We're receiving around a thousand bug reports per day about our
software, but we really only have 1 person to deal with them.
What software is available to process and organize these reports
to make them more manageable?
\_ Don't do anything about them an call your company Microsoft.
\_ use GNU gnats.
\_ jitterbug is supposed to be good
\_ Forget about fixing them. Quit this company. Obviously, this
software is shit.
\_ We have 45 million users. 1k complaints/day isn't a big
deal. Obviously, you're talking out your ass.
\_ You have 45 million users and only 1 person to deal with
bugs? Is your management crazy? |
| 1999/5/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:15819 Activity:high |
5/17 Tired of the marketing lies on microsoft's (or your competitor's)
web site? Put in your own opinions, for others to see! ThirdVoice
finally goes public with their software product. Check it out and
come see the formerly secret new product I've been working on.
<DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> The thirdvoice browser plugin is MSIE4 only, on
NT/95 of course. -ERic Anakin wins the race
\_ Discussion about <DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> web site being designed by
idiots censored by thirdvoice employees who don't want people
\_ not anymore
to know that no one in their company can actually test their
work.
\_ dude, get a decent browser
work. Episode II is a love story.
\_ Just viewing the web page requires MSIE? Your
web designers are complete idiots. It takes
two seconds to put the style sheet inside
<!-- --> tags so it won't show up on browsers
like netscape 3. (See www.csua for instance).
This isn't hard or secret - it's recommended
in every guide to CSS style sheets. Remember
designing web pages that are only usable in
certain browsers is the same as saying "Fuck
you - we don't need your business" to everyone
else - not a good way to start a company.
\_ dude, get a decent browser (Obi-wan kills Darth Maul)
\_ Sigh... look, it's a new product, a new company, and I'm
sorry your old browser isn't supported. I won't address
the censorship claim. The motd is world writable and gets
regularly scrubbed by numerous people. Your comments
regarding the tags have already been passed along to people
in the company who can do something about it. I'm certain
it will be taken care of ASAP. Thank you for taking the
\_ I'm using Netscape 3 - less than 3 years old, thank you.
time and effort to visit our home, try out our brand new
product and provide constructive feedback. -reiffin
\_ oh yeah, its MSIE4 only, on NT/95 of course. bleah
\_ looks great in non-stylesheet browsers since they didn't hide
the stylesheets in HTML comment tags. Try getting some
web designers who know what they're doing and how to test
with something other than the latest versions.
\_ Uhm whatever. I think you missed the point. Can you not
understand "MSIE4 only" and "NS coming soon"? -not ERic
\_ Hey, looks ok to me. I dunno what crap you're running but
tough shit for using an ancient piece of shit client. Join
this decade.
\_ FUCK YOU IT"S ALL ABOUT lynx
\_ I think the lynx client is still in the
'concept' stage. You'll be the first to know
Third Voice with ERic)
when its beta-ready. :-) -reiffin (at
Third Voice with ERic) Anakin wins the race
\_ oh yeah, its MSIE4 only, on NT/95 of course.
\_ I like the stupid banner ad on <DEAD>www.thirdvoice.com<DEAD> that
says "Click here to download the software" and that takes you
to the same damn page when you click on it. Perhaps your
company should invest in testing.
\_ And software engineers that can do anything besides MS
code. But that's another story...
\_ And of course, the coolest thing about ThirDvoice is it can make
anybody's web page as full of stupid and inane comments as the motd!
\_ Hey, let's make this MOTD thirdvoice-compliant!
\_ duh, it already is. http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/motd |
| 1999/5/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW] UID:15740 Activity:kinda low |
5/3 http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/05/biztech/articles/03code.html Once again, the media must assign blame... \_ It's what they're there for. Can't wait to work 12 years plus my degree from an acredited school before I can be a "professional" software engineer. And who the hell ever heard of that creed or the random .org that's spouting off about it? What do I do for my first 12 years when I'm not a professional? Who will pay me to do non-professional work for 12 years? It's just stupid. Companies that follow that shit will die and rightly so. \_ You never heard of ACM or CPSR? \_ No. I haven't worked as a non-professional for 12 years, yet. When I've earned my way into professional standing, I'll join up, sign the ethics document and know all about it. Having been out of school for only 7 years now, I'm not yet ready to work professionally so I haven't concerned myself with professional .orgs. \_ Hmmm, I knew about those before I was even near industry. \_ heard of sarcasm yet or was that not listed in any recent ACM bulletins? Reading Comp. 1A for you. Did you follow any of the political issues in computing (Clipper, crypto export, CDA, etc.)? ACM, CPSR, EFF, VTW, CDT, IEEE were always putting out statements, releases, summaries, analyses... (I don't agree with the CPSR on professional licensing, but I still think some of these .orgs have made a different.) \_ ...have made a different _what_? |
| 1999/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15706 Activity:nil |
4/26 RedHat 6.0 was released today, according to http://slashdot.org. Anyone know a local mirror that won't be completely saturated? -- nickkral \_ Why did this appear on the slashdot page before it did on the RedHat page? Perhaps if you mail root@redhat.cs.berkeley.edu they will add 6.0 |
| 1999/3/30-31 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15662 Activity:nil |
3/30 In a /lib /usr/lib directory what's the diff between a lib*.a and
a lib*.so file?
\_ .a is "archive" and produces static (compile-time) linking, while
.so is "shared object" and produces dynamic (run-time) linking.
\_ so what the heck is "linking"?
\_ man ld
\_ well, if you're a DOS weenie, a .so file is like a .DLL file
in short: .a files are things that get added to your program
when you compile it; people don't need them to run the
executable, but it's huge. .so files get "added" (linked)
when a person runs the program, so they need to have copies
of them, but the executable is smaller. generally .so
(shared libraries) are better because then 100 programs on
your machine can use one library without (essentially) having
100 copies of the library present in every executable -dbushong |
| 1999/3/29-30 [Computer/Theory, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15650 Activity:high |
3/29 Algorithm question: Is an easy way to figure out the number of
days between two given dates? Eg. given 98/11/05 and 98/12/09
as input, the output would be 34 days? Is there a C function
that can xlate the date into some absolute number and then do the
arithmetic and then covert it back? Thanks!
\_ Let me guess. You're trying to implement If-Modified-Since for
ee 122 right? What I've used since my early days of programming
is time_t time(time_t *t); or 'man 2 time' at the unix prompt.
It'll return the number of seconds since Jan 1, 1970. --jeff
\_ Convert both to Julian dates and subtract.
\_ http://wwwmacho.mcmaster.ca/JAVA/JD.html guess you'll have
to figure out the algorithm from the JavaScript fcns
\_ Or just use mktime(3) and subtract. |
| 1999/3/25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15647 Activity:nil |
3/24 Windoze 98 question: the "new" option doesn't show up when i
right-click on the desktop. Also there is no "new" under file in
the menu bar in any drive/folder. In short there is no way to
create a new folder except through DOS (no problem there). There
is NO security on this computer (other than what comes standard
with win98 and which may have been accidently set). Any ideas as
to what's wrong / how to fix it?
\_ how to fix it? reinstall the os. if that doesn't work, buy
a new computer.
\_ what's wrong with Windows?!?! dont get me started...
Umm, never mind. It came back. Gotta luv win98. |
| 1999/3/22-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:15628 Activity:high |
3/22 I downloaded Internet Explorer 5.0 from http://download.com and I have an ugly <DEAD>snap.com<DEAD> logo on the browser and a big annoying S in the corner. What kind of crap is this? How do I get rid of it? \_ I d/led IE5 for solaris and it rocks! I like the feature where you middle click on a page and that functions as a scrollbar. No more going back and forth between the page and the scrollbar! This is the best alternative since there are no "scrollbar" mice for Sun boxes. \_ *shudder* *twitch* \_ dunno how you get rid of it since it happened to me with zdnet. I just d/led the http://microsoft.com ConXion version. could only get on after 8 p.m. though. \_ you will have to remove the version you downloaded to get rid of the annoying snap stuff. you can download a different version like the one from msn. its much nicer looking. \_ Is there anyway to dl without dl'ing the small setup.exe has all the files local and let you select how big of an install you want from the files you originally d/led. That's how it works on Win32, dunno about the UNIX versions. which downloads the rest? That is, can I download something, then disconnect, then set up? \_ when you run ie5setup.exe there's like a button labeled "Advanced". Try that. In the end you end up with a directory of files (that you can bulk copy to somewhere else); then run ie5setup.exe again within the directory. It'll know it now has all the files local and let's you select how big of an install you want from the files you originally d/led. That's how it works on Win32, dunno about the UNIX versions. ie5setup.exe is a little buggy, too, for the full, full install (make sure it says 62 MB) with all the languages. \_ 62MB for a web browser? \_ it's not a browser; it's an os! \_ thank you, Marc Andressen |
| 1999/3/20-22 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15621 Activity:nil |
3/19 Want even more shocking linux news that the one below?
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/077/business/Let_s_make_sure_Microsoft_gets_the_Word_on_Linux+.shtml
\_ How about the fact that Hotmail, owned by M$, runs FreeBSD instead
of NT on its servers?
\_ next time, post a summary, as well. microsoft now supposed has an
email address for people to write and request "word for linux".
This is unfortunate, if they actually listen. microsloth will
then crush the entire software application industry. |
| 1999/3/10-11 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15576 Activity:high |
3/9 Did anyone see 'Triumph of the Nerds' on pbs? Apparently the enitre
Microsoft thing was a fluke in history because a Digital employee's wife
told IBM to screw off.
\_ It's also interesting to note that Micrsoft didn't write the core
of MSDOS. They just bought QDOS from a local software company
and adapted it to look and behave like CP/M.
\_ that wasn't just any person, it was Gary Kildall, writer of CP/M
it goes to show don't marry the wrong person!
\_ Those of you who are interested might want to talk to my
old boss. She's Kathy Strutynski, co-author of CP/M and
Digital Reasearch's (not DEC) 5th employee. She has an
interesting perspective on most of the people shown in the show.
--sowings
http://www.hogranch.com/digital.research/Kathy_Strutynski.jpg |
| 1999/2/28-3/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15497 Activity:nil |
2/28 http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/17741.html Microsoft claims to have invented web style sheets. What next? Microsoft tries to patent the web? \_ http://lpf.ai.mit.edu if you think software patents suck. (or if you have no idea and want to learn why they suck) |
| 1999/2/25-3/30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15483 Activity:high |
2/25 In MS-DOS, I can do "prompt $E[7m$p$g$E[0m" to get an inverse
command prompt. Is there a way to do the same thing for NT command
prompt? Thanks.
\_ http://www.jpsoft.com 4NT
\_ tcsh for NT.
\_ tcsh != MS-DOS. The jpsoft stuff is as good or better than
tcsh for personalization mods like this and they're also
written specifically to upgrade DOS-heads to tcsh-like power
without having to relearn everything from scratch and rewrite
a zillion batch files.
\_ 4NT != MS-DOS. More apropos, NT command prompt != 4NT.
Bonehead.
\_ Idiot. He wants to set his prompt. Read the fucking
message. 4NT will give him exactly what he wants
\_ Pay? Who paid for it?
tcsh for personalization mods like this and they're also
written specifically to upgrade DOS-heads to tcsh-like power
without having to relearn everything from scratch and rewrite
a zillion batch files.
without learning anything new except for the new
prompt command nor requiring him to rewrite any
batch files. You, Sir, are a moron.
\_ Setting a prompt is worth paying for a new shell?
\_ Pay? Who paid for it? There's a reason it
hasn't had a new version in years. Just
download and use it. If you want to get
into a debate about the ethics of stealing
trialware, go for it, but 4NT is still a
perfectly good answer. Go start a new
thread if you want to flame me for lack of
ethics. |
| 1999/2/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:15473 Activity:high |
2/23 Thanks ERic for the MRTG tip. It works great.
New Question (Sometimes i think i take advantage of the motd;
other times i'm sure of it.):
Does anyone know of any LPT protocols so that my WIN 9X machines
can print to Mac printers like my NT machines do ? -crebbs
\_ Have them print to an NT server setup as a print server for the
Appletalk printers. Easiest to do if you already have an NT
server that prints to them. I've never bothered trying to find
an Appletalk driver for win9x (which I'm assuming is what you
mean by "Mac printers"). If the printers are tcp/ip, you just
need the right printer driver like any other printer.
\_ sorry, i should have been more clear about what i was doing:
I have been having problems with printing (most notably
with certain applications such as QUARK) and want to take
my *Apple* (woops) printers off the NT server and have
them on a MAC server which will be "cleaner" (for lack of
a better term). Now my NT machines can still print to
those printers via tcp/ip using the LPR protocol which
NT has, but my Windows 9X machines can't 'cause they don't
so i was hoping for some third part LPR protocol so i
don't have to buy pc-maclan or copstalk just to print.
\_ oooooooh.... well you can _still_ print via your NT
server as a sort of printer server/proxy for the 95
boxes. I've done this before. All the lpr/9x things
I've seen all suck and don't come anywhere near the
concept of "clean".
\_ How? i can't see the printers from my win9x
machines and couldn't find anything on the winnt FAQ
\_ Setup the printer using LPR on the NT machine,
then share it from the NT machine.
\_ well, you could try moving a printer to a UNIX box,
and running CAP, and see if you stillhave problems
printing from mac. Then you could print from
both mac and nt fine.
\_ Yes well, i very often say "we should do this on a
Unix Box" but the unix boxes aren't "mine." I
suppose i could set up a linux machine but, grr,
that's like work. (besides finding a spare
machine)
\_ installing linux on a machine that used to run
Windows is more like a vacation than work. -tom |
| 1999/2/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15456 Activity:moderate |
2/20 Microsoft says: "Even on workstations, it is worth pointing out that
most workstation users already are local administrators and have full
control over the machine." -- Windows NT: Security through Stupidity
\_ and your point is...?
\_ I give all my users full Domain Admin rights because I'm lazy and
stupid. -NT Admin |
| 1999/2/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15426 Activity:low |
2/16 Can someone remind me what "Pegasus" was the code name for? I
received some mail that's sent from "Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a)".
\_ Pegasus is an actual mail program.
<DEAD>www.pegasus.usa.com<DEAD> -jives
\_ Oh, I thought it was Pen Windows or WinPad or something. Never
mind. |
| 1999/2/16-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15420 Activity:moderate |
2/15 Windows Refund Day was fun, though it did not produce any refunds.
You can see just what Microsoft had to say to us at
http://zork.net/~schoen/dear-valued-customer.html
and various press coverage and such, as it develops, at
http://linuxmafia.com/refund
Microsoft carefully declined to answer our questions on how to get the
OEMs to follow its license agreement and provide refuns. -- schoen
\_ yeah, that was fun. My co-worker showed me my picture on the
front page of the business section of the Chronicle. --vchang
\_ what kind of bullshit is "PCs sold with Windows preinstalled are
optimized for the Windows operating system by the PC maker to
guarantee the best customer experience. " How dumb do they think
linux users are.
\_ The question is how dumb they expect the AVERAGE consumer is.
\_ Is my interpretation of the first url skewed, or are they
basically saying that the OS is an integral part of the
computer, not a separate component? -John
\_ It's just from the marketting noise department. Has nothing to
do with linux folks and everything to do with getting a chance
to get the press to pass this crap along to the public.
\_ It's probably what they ARE trying to say... MS tried to
argue that Win95 ran slower without IE pre-installed and
thus it was an integral part of the OS that couldn't be
removed. They don't think the Linux users are dumb, they
just think there are too few of them to count. -bz
\_ Of course Win95 can't function without IE. It's a lot like
how a car can't function without its 10 disc changer or
how a commercial jet can't function properly without its
big screen projector. What were those DoJ people thinking. |
| 1999/2/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15411 Activity:nil 77%like:15410 |
2/13 I tried installing an iomega zip plus driver on my clunky 486, but
it gave me an "ASPI for Win32 not initialized!" error during the
installation program, and it wouldn't map a drive for the zip
drive. What gives?
\_ Well, your main problem is that you are using Winblows, but
to fix this minor problem in Winblows download the ASAPI.exe
and ASAPICHK.exe. These programs will upgrade a bunch of DLL's
and you should be able to get the drive working. I found these
programs on Smart&Friendly's website, but they are also available
from Adaptec and Iomega. |
| 1999/2/12-14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15406 Activity:nil |
2/12 Aside from sounding really dumb, is a DOS/Windoze 3.11 machine
patchable to become Y2K-compliant?
\_ Thre are programs out there that can test if your OS is Y2K
compliant. Test it first before you try finding a patch that
doesn't exist. Knowing Microsoft, I'm sure they f-ed up Windows
in one way or another so you never know.
\_ you use the FreeBSD install floppy patch.
\_ Who cares? Before clock cards came out my computer always thought
it was 1980 when I turned it on. And? So? Don't succumb to all
the media generate Y2K hysteria. It's silly. |
| 1999/2/11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15400 Activity:nil |
2/10 HELP! In MS-DOS there's an UNDELETE command. Is there any command
in NT that does the same thing? I accidentally deleted a lot of files
in a directory with "del c:\foo" and I want to recover them. They
are not in the Recycle Bin. Thanks much! |
| 1999/2/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15373 Activity:nil |
2/8 In WinNT, what's the difference between cmd.exe and http://command.com? Thx. \_ cmd.exe is a Win32 program and supports minimal extended features; do a cmd /? for more info. I believe http://command.com in NT is a DOS program. -slow \_ whereas "command.com" *IS* DOS, if you boot from it. |
| 1999/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15331 Activity:moderate |
1/31 Anybody know where the passwd in win95's dialup connector is saved?
I couldn't find a directory containing "dialup network" or something
similar.
\_ search for a file ending in PWL ?
\_ It's in the windows directory under $username.pwl |
| 1999/1/31-2/2 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15329 Activity:high |
1/31 Help, I can't get UDP up!! I've got RedHat 5.2, how do I make
sure IP Filtering is turned off? Tom needs my BB! -mtbb
UDP
"UDP connection request timed out"
\_ Install a real OS like 95/98/NT that you have a chance of dealing
with at your level of fu.
\_ Screw that. My Win98 box won't do UDP either. Quiet, you.
And I wouldn't start in with "level of fu" with me if you're
wise. I'm no mehlhaff, but I know a thing or two. --sowings
\_ Oh phooey. I've only spent the last half-year trying to get
my non-WinblowsMe to the point where it can connect to an ISP
\_ You are an idiot.
thru ISDN. That frikk'n 'gated' daemon problem took me days to
solve.. but I finally got that hacked. Now, I've got some
\_ Days? You are an idiot.
nimwit who thinx I should go and donate more bux to the Food For
Bill Fund. One-der-Full. I don't even have a BS in networking.
\_ With an OS at your Fu Level, it would've taken 30 minutes
at most. Even for you.
I'll figure it out myself... it just takes time and I was kind
of hoping somebuddy could help me out here. *waaah* -mtbb
\_ Obviously not. It was too hard. Now if you had chosen an
easier to support OS....
\_ A real OS doesn't crash and burn every 12 hours. Even NT sucks.
\_ If you crash NT every 12 hours then you must be doing
\_ Obviously they're not teaching interface design classes.
The 95/NT is mediocre but at least it works.
something stupid like installing random crap off the net
\_ Mostly. And your point is?
as an admin. Anyway, the original poster still needs an
OS for clueless people. 95/98/NT will play his netrek
without the need for a PhD in networking. You are an
idiot.
\_ I managed to get NT to panic as a non-super user.
Now, that's pretty sad.
\_ Are you saying Linux isn't a real OS?
\_ People just like to ridicule Linux as being a fake OS
because they're too lazy to replace their prepackaged
\_ Linux will never take over as long as the interface
sucks and it requires a CS geek to get running. Or
in this case a CS geek is appealing to other CS geeks
for help (and still hasn't gotten any, btw).
shrink wrapped OS's with something real. And every
semester, yet another 162/61C prof shows what a great
example of an operating system Linux is and how horribly
designed Microsoft operating systems are. But who are we
to listen to people like Dave Patterson and Culler.
They know nothing about system software. They only spent
the last 20 years studying about them.
\_ Isn't Win95 just DOS with a graphical interfact on top of it?
\_ just out of curiosity, how do people here compare OS2 with
win95/NT?
\_ OS/2 is a real OS from the ground up, Win95 is just a
graphical shell on top of DOS. Don't know much about NT,
but I guess it's real too (although it sucks.)
\_ It's so funny how so many awesome operating systems
that are 10x better than Windows have failed to
dominate the PC markert. Hopefully linux will succeed
since M$ will have nobody to sue this time.
\_ It's funny how M$ talks about their "OS"es:
When Win3.1 came out: "You can have multitasking with Win3.1!"
When Win95 came out: "You can have preemptive multitasking
with 95!"
When NT came out: "You can have true multitasking with NT!"
\_ I was told that NT = VMS. Is this true?
\_ I think it's because Dave Cutler (?), one of the
main VMS guys, was hired by M$ to put together NT.
also, I don't know if it's an urban legend, but
supposedly VMS + 1 = WNT. Har har. -John
\_ cutler was at dec west working on the then next
generation processor + os. I think it was called
spectrum or something (it was many years ago, and
i have reclaimed the storage for that stuff). dec
canned that project in favor of mips, and the hw
side of the team went off to do alpha, which ended
up killing mips inside dec. most of the sw side of
the team went with cutler to microsoft to do nt.
according to people who claim to know, nt has
striking similarities to the cancelled dec work.
Er ... so what multitasking was I getting in 3.1 again?
\_ synchronous time division multiplexing
\_ It works OK with nice, well-behaved programs (like the
ones that DON'T come with Win 3.1)
\_ Sega Dreamcast uses Windows CE. That's freaky.
\_ If you were dealing with FreeBSD I could answer your question
better, sine I know how its ipfw setup works. Basically, you
need to remove IP filtering from the kernel, or just give it
the barest set of forwarding rules. Usuallly this is:
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any
--sowings |
| 1999/1/26-29 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15292 Activity:moderate |
1/15 Linux 2.2.0 kernel is out. Go get it!
\_ WHere can I get it, and what new features does it have over 2.0.36?
\_ If you've never gotten a new kernel before, you _don't_ want to
start with a new minor kernel version. Read the kernel HOWTO.
It is faster, more stable, has more drivers, etc. A comparison
may be found on <DEAD>linuxhq.com<DEAD>.
\_ http://slashdot.org has an article today on the differences.
\_ Save the bandwidth, download patches. (That is, unless you're
running 2.0.x) -brg
\_ For those on campus, Trey Hyde has been keeping the current
version for ftp at http://scienceview.lhs.berkeley.edu. -- schoen
\_ For those used to stability, wait a while. There
are still (annoyingly) crashing bugs in 2.2.0.
echo "subscribe linux-kernel" | \
mail majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu
if you want the fully-loaded spammage. -brg
\_ Of course, the buggiest version of linux is probably
a lot less buggier than the cleanest version of
Microsoft Windows. |
| 1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15273 Activity:nil |
1/21 reject your preloaded capitalist redmond OS!
http://linuxmafia.com/refund |
| 1999/1/21-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15271 Activity:high |
1/21 CS department network services
people of questionable intellect, please view /tmp/policy.txt.
--PeterM
\_ it seems as though this policy is regarding desktop machines
within the department and has nothing to do with anyone's home
machines. is this not the case?
\_ There was an incident like this at UCLA where a dorm student had
his ethernet port disabled because he was running a multiuser
OS
\_ that's pretty lame if you can't run daemons without asking for
permissions first.
\_ impossible to enforce. You stupid fools.
\_ not impossible. Not against 95% of the people that want to
run them. They just do port scanning on specific ports.
\_ They can't force you to pay for their services or wipe your
disk with a "by running linux you have implicitly agreed to
this policy" statement. That's just some power tripping
moron making shit up. As for the rest, it's just stupid.
They don't take care of their own site security and couldn't
tell if someone else's machine was insecure so what's the
point? It's just silly. They are silly stupid people and I
fart in their general direction.
\_ Hello? Did you read the part that said this is the
"CS dept. network" policy? They're not "charging you"
- this covers machines owned by the CS dept. and on
their network - they have the right to define how
their property (computers & network) is used.
\_ Read it again. They don't have the right to create
a policy that you're pre-agreed to simply by having
a linux box on the network without making sure
you're read and signed the agreement first. Wake
up. This is so incredibly open to abuse, it isn't
even laughable. Actually, its down right scary.
\_ If you've got a box on the CS dept. network
it's either owned by the CS dept. or a CS
student group who agreed to follow CS
policies.
\_ Even the ones which can cost you money
without your having been made
specifically aware of such costs. The
policy is ridiculous and scary.
\_ What's ridiculous is the idea that
you can plug whatever you want into
campus network connections. -tom
campus network connections. The CS
department owns the connection, and is
having major problems with unsupported
Unix boxes, primarily Linux. This is
happening all over campus. While I don't
agree with all the points of the policy,
I fully support the department's right to
control its own network. -tom
\_ I agree that they have a right to kick
you off, but not to say that merely
running a particular OS implies your
consent to their entire policy including
charging you a bogus security fine
without making any effort to educate
anyone about the existence of this
policy. In fact, I doubt it's either
legal or possible to assign such a bogus
charge to anyone's CARS bill.
charge to anyone's CARS bill. An empty
threat is stupid. This is a research
and educational institution. They
should educate, not slap random
punishments around they can't enforce.
\_ It doesn't mention CARS bills,
because the CS dept. doesn't allow
students to plug in their computers
in Soda Hall. This is about
how the dept. 'charges' the various
research projects in soda hall.
\_ Hahahahhahha, I'd like to see
those monkey faced little shits
try to charge my Prof. for this!
\_ Yes I did. It didn't say I could plug in my own
machine and run all those services without getting
squished. They have the right to turn off a
network connection but not to charge me for their
worthless security check/approval. Can you say,
"stupid invasive big brotherish morons invent yet
another ridiculous set of paranoid self defeating
idiotic 'policies' again"? Knew you could.
\_ YOU CAN'T PLUG IN ANY MACHINE OF YOURS TO
THE CS DEPT. NETWORK. This has nothing
to do with personal machines at home. It
ONLY COVERS MACHINES IN SODA HALL.
\_ I didn't say "at home". I _can_ and
_have_ plugged a machine in at soda hall.
Thank you for playing. Try again? (Y/n)
\_ If you plugged your laptop in to
a connection in soda hall, you are
most likely doing so without
permission and can get in much more
trouble than just breaking the
linux policy.
\_ Anyone with more info? In what situations does that policy apply?
\_ CalLUG is trying to find out more about this. It looks like
it is targeted at researchers in Soda Hall. -- schoen
\_ Well, "FreeBSD" doesn't appear anywhere in that policy; sounds
like they're just trying to get you to make a sensible OS choice.
\_ You will be absorbed. It doesn't say I can't run all those
exact same services on my far less secure win 95/nt box either. |
| 1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15265 Activity:moderate |
1/20 Does anyone know what service binds to port 135 on WinNT? -Quoc
\_ One of the netbios wins name thingies.
\_ Telnet there and give it lots of garbage input and see if
it does anything kewl like crash the machine, otherwise don't
worry about it. -John
\_ Only on an unpatched NT box.
\_ Only on an unpatched NT box. Only a complete and utter
moron puts an unpatched box on the net for longer than the
5 minutes it takes to run the SP.
\_ its netbios-nameservice, aka WINS
\_ Didn't like my answer? I already said this. |
| 1999/1/12-13 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15211 Activity:very high |
1/11 Everyone hurry up and mock the new SGI Sellout line of NT/intel
workstations before SGI dies a merciful death.
\_ Intergraph Wildcat 210 CDRS new
SGI 540 198 CDRS new
HP Kayak, Visualize FX6 190 CDRS 1.5 year old tech
unless SGI thinks they can match or surpass -existing- HP
or Intergraph technology on Windows NT, they're in trouble.
\_ Okay, maybe dumb question. What's CDRS?
\_ if they're using intel chips then at least you can replace the
operating system with a real one like Solaris, Linux, or FreeBSD.
\_ Sellout? Yeah better for them to keep selling machines that no
that mob ties explain a lot about success,and also strategy.
one will buy. At least they'll still have their pride if not
their jobs and stock.
\_ you think going from being a real company to one
repackaging MS/Intel products is a way to keep pride?
\_ Nope. Back to Reading Comp. 1A for you.
\_ "At least they'll still have their pride" in
respsonse to the announcement that SGI is using
an NT/intel combo. I don't know what the hell
kind of education you got but you seem like the
one who needs to take Reading Comp. 1A.
\_ As I said. Back to Reading Comp. 1A. You still
have failed to read a simple English paragraph.
Hell, it wasn't even long enough to be a real
paragraph and you're still unable to read it.
You have it completely ass-backwards. Try again.
\_ Actually, you've got it wrong. Perhaps
you meant to say "they'd" instead of
"they'll."
\_ No. I said _exactly_ what I meant and meant
_exactly_ what I said.
\_ What's the point?
[ Idiotic arguement about English sytax deleted. ]
\_ the idiot-grinning picture of Richard E. Belluzzo, the CEO
of SGI, looks like a mobster. Actually, look at his name.
Then consider he's in cahoots with redmond. Then consider
that mob ties explain a lot about [m$] success,and also strategy.
\_ Say what?
\_ agreed. what are you babbling about? |
| 1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15178 Activity:nil |
1/6 In DOS, we use FILES= in CONFIG.SYS to set the max. # of open files.
How do I set the max. # of open files for a DOS app under Win95?
Thank you.
\_ You can still have, and use a CONFIG.SYS under Win95 if you
want this way. Each DOS window will be able to open the max #
of FILES= you specify. For the most part W95 is still DOS. |
| 1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:15170 Activity:high |
1/5 I'm getting a new CD-RW drive and am considering different CD
mastering software to use. Does anyone have any preferences? Why that
particular software?
\_ http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq <-- everything you want to know
\_ Including why you put in \ instead
of / you DOS-loving moron?
\_ What's wrong with DOS? And why
claim his error has anything to
do with DOS? The world was
built on DOS, not unix, not
windows, not macintosh. You're
probably too young to know that.
\_ Yeah right, the world revolves
around desktop computers?
I dont *think* so. If DOS was
involved in the worlds
construction, it was in SPITE
of DOS.
\_ stupid flames deleted
\_ Adaptec EasyCD, which comes with most CD-R/RWs. Very simple and
intuitive to use, yet powerful. I haven't tried other programs,
but I have zero complaints about Adaptec.
\_ CDRWin lets you copy Playstation games
\_ How about Disc Juggler? Nero? Gear? NTI CD-Maker?
\_ I use xcdroast. It works great.
http://www.fh-muenchen.de/home/ze/rz/services/projects/xcdroast/e_xcdroast.html |
| 1998/12/30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Industry/Startup] UID:15150 Activity:nil |
12/28 Is there no end?
10:00 AM Microsoft has acquired FASA Interactive, developers of
MechCommander and the forthcoming MechWarrior IV, according to
sources at the company. Several key members of the company have
confirmed the deal, and are already making plans to move closer
to the Redmond, Washington software giant.
\_ Indented for clueless newbie.
\_ Thanks, but frankly, I knew and just didn't give a damn.
-apathetic to your hobgoblinish little needs
\_ I like Saturday Night Live's Microsoft skit on Micrsoft aquires
Christmas and will rename the holiday to either Micromas or
Christmasoft.
\_ first you forgot to indent, second, why is this news
we should care about
\_ I didn't. I cut'n'pasted it. Who appointed you the Miss
Manners of the Motd? Secondly, if there was a minimal interest
criteria for motd posts, then we should disable this entirely
since all of it is crap by your "standards". |
| 1998/12/22 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15137 Activity:nil |
12/21 Alarm over new 'smart' virus, NT, hits machines...
http://www.excite.com/computers_and_internet/tech_news/zdnet
article=/news/19981221/2178239.inp
\_ NT is a virus. |
| 1998/12/15 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15093 Activity:nil |
12/13 SHARE THAT SHAREWARE AND PAY FOR IT, TOO!
This is International Shareware Day, a day to celebrate
and also to reward the efforts of thousands of computer
programmers who trust that if we try their programs and
like them, we will pay for them.
Sound like a quaint idea? Well, it's one way to make sure
their efforts aren't stifled.
So, the way to celebrate International Shareware Day is to
inventory our shareware and then, in the holiday spirit, to
write payment checks to the authors of any we use and
haven't yet acknowledged.
(Might be nice to include a note of appreciation, too, don't
you think? Still in the holiday spirit, you know. . .)
This idea comes from David Lawrence's "Online Today":
http://online-today.com/later_today.html
\_does this mean we have to pay for xv now?
\_ I don't support shareware that much anymore. These days what
passes for shareware is actually more like a trial-version of
a commercial program. For example, many "shareware" programs
stop working after a time, or have certain features disabled.
What's the difference between that and a commercial program
that you can download and try for 30 days?
\_ uh, shareware is commercial software that you can download
and try for a period of time. That's the definition.
Many traditional commercial software companies are now
using a shareware/demo model; that doesn't somehow make
the model invalid. -tom
\_ That's apparently the definition now. Originally,
shareware was freeware that included a message
asking you to send the author some money if you
liked the program. I find that much easier to
support.
\_ That's bullshit. I've been using and paying for
shareware for over 10 years, and the definition
never included "freeware". Freeware is free
software. Shareware is commercial software. -tom
\_ This seems to be a bigger trend on the Windows side of
the market (makes sense too, what with the bigger
numbers). As a Mac user, I still see a lot of kickass
best of breed indie shareware, e.g. Anarchie, DragThing,
FinderPop, Kaleidoscope, YA-Newswatcher, Netpresenz
(none of which are crippled, though the authors do
encourage paid registrations). Peter Lewis' Stairways
Software (makers of Anarchie and Netpresenz) is
particularly cool--they trust users with a simple, and
intentionally unprotected, "I paid" checkbox to turn off
shareware reminders.
\_ Somebody explain to me why I should ever trust something I don't
have full source code for. The only two programs I use regularly
that take the system down (when used in combination) are
Navigator 4.5 and AcceleratedX. Granted, neither are shareware,
but my point is that virtually all (xv is the only exception
I know of) shareware is closed-source, and usually unrefined
and unreliable. I don't think I've ever used a shareware
program I've found useful and reliable enough to purchase.
I also regretted purchasing most of the commercial software
I've bought over the years, usually finding it to be limited
in useful functionality, barely debugged, and slow as shit
rolling uphill.
\_ if you don't want to use software without the source code
available, why the fuck are you using Windows? -tom
\_ I'm not, you fuckwit, and I use AccelX only because
XF86 barfs at my video card. You won't catch me
running anything that I don't have source for
unless there's no workable alternative.
\_ there's no workable alternative for Netscape 4.5?
what's wrong with mozilla? -tom
\_ There is much anger in this one.
\_ Microsoft and this whole closed-source mentality have set
computing back at least a decade. |
| 1998/12/15 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15087 Activity:nil |
12/14 What's a good toolkit for developing software for X11 and MS Windows
with minimal headaches? I've looked at Qt (only free for X11) and
wxWindows (even simple apps written for it are rather slow to
compile... worries me about runtime speed), but they don't seem like
viable solutions for the aforementioned reasons. Any suggestions?
LGPL or BSD-style license is preferable, but GPL will do. -brian
\_ the toolkit-formerly-known-as-Swing comes standard with JDK 1.2
It's easy to program to, but interfacing with your C/C++ code might
cause you headaches. Or not. I generally don't think runtime speed
is an issue for UI; it tends to be user-bound anyway. -pld
\_ swing can easily be cpu bound if you don't have a fast computer
\_ tcl/tk 8.x
\_fltk seems reasonable... |
| 1998/12/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15081 Activity:kinda low |
12/5 Are there any good/new games that work on NT4.0 given that
there is no DirectX upgrade for NT? QuakeII will probably
work. Anything else?
\_ Install 95/98 in another partition. NT5/2k is sposed to have
directx6 or 7 in it but nt4 is dead. |
| 1998/12/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15079 Activity:very high |
12/5 I want some funky kool scientific looking thing running on my
desktop with meters and stuff and rotating things, like in those
movies where somebody's using a computer to do stuff. Any ideas?
\_ which movies and scenes in particular are you refering to?
\_ I dunno. Any typical movie with some "computer dude"
doing something on a computer usually shows some
stuff on the screen which has nothing to do with
what the person is supposed to be doing, but looks
kinda cool anyway.
\_ I don't know how funky looking you want to get but I've seen
some really neat stuff running on unix like top/netstat
running on a transparent eterm. If you run windowmaker or
afterstep there are some really high-tech looking things
like wmclock, wmcdplay, asload, as/wmppp, as/wmeth, etc..
\_ For processes you can use something line perfmeter (solaris)
or procmeter (linux). Other possibilites include gmemusage,
loadmeter, qps, xosview, glload (an openGL based load meter)
\_ Anything for NT?
\_ probably not. Windows needs a huge makeover to even
look slightly kool/scientific/funky. The best is
probably winamp plugins but unless you want to be
playing mp3 constantly you're SOL.
\_ perfmon can show some rolling graphs of current system
usage. Better than nothing. What sort of look are
you trying for? Most movies use c64s.
\_ http://www.litestep.net is a substitute NeXTStep-ish shell for
Win32, with themes and all ala Afterstep/Windowmaker. My
personal favorite is Fallout2 theme. -muchandr |
| 1998/11/19 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14976 Activity:high |
11/18 Anyone know where I can download the star wars 1 trailer?
<DEAD>www.starwars.com's<DEAD> download sites are not responding.
\_ go to http://slashdot.org, find the SW article, and there's a bunch
of sites listed.
\_ it'll be on Entertainment Tonight tonight.
\_ I have the official trailer on another one of my accounts.
Would it be against CSUA policy to stick it in /tmp for awhile?
20MB gzipped.
\_ Sounds like copyrighted material to me.
\_ Yeah, but isn't it freely and publicly available? (sorry, i
dunno jack about copyright laws) |
| 1998/11/17-19 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14967 Activity:very high |
11/16 Anybody know of software like MS Frontpage that produces clean HTML
files instead of MS proprietary .asp files? I need something
powerful and easy to use like Frontpage but I don't want to be tied
to windows. Thanks.
\_ Macromedia Dreamweaver. It's used heavily by web development
professionals, and combines a powerful graphical environment with
direct source level access. It comes with free, fully integrated
copies of Allaire Homesite (Win) or BBEdit (Mac), for better quality
source level control. Very good stuff; I'm a way satisified
user. Bear Bytes sells it with a student discount. Try a 30 day
demo at http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver
the elegant solution to all your text editing problems.
\_ netscape composer?
\_ Never use MS products for web development! Try Homesite by Allaire.
\_ http://www.barebones.com
\_ I've heard that the Macromedia one (DreamWeaver?) is good,
although I've never tried it personally. I think you can even
download a demo version of it to try out.
\_ -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 151552 Jul 15 01:52 /bin/rm
real cs/eecs majors don't waste their time on web pages.
\_ -rwxr-xr-t 2 bin bin 1990656 Oct 17 1997 /usr/local/bin/emacs
the elegant solution to all your text editing^H^H^H OS problems.
\_ what is the t permission bit for?
\_ -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 159744 Dec 4 1997 /usr/local/bin/jove
B
-- the bastard son of the elegant solution
\_ -r-xr-xr-x 6 bin bin 274432 Jul 15 02:03 /usr/bin/vi
-- vi h0zer
\_ -r-xr-xr-x 2 bin bin 126976 Jul 15 01:51 /bin/ed
-- the standard text h0zer
\_ -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 57344 Aug 18 13:42 /bin/cat
-- real men don't need to edit; we get it right the first time
\_ -r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 12288 Aug 24 17:25 /usr/local/bin/pico
-- a h0zer's tool. period.
\_ How can pico be smaller than cat?
\_ It has less functionality.
\_ But seriously, folks, it's a Small Matter of Libraries:
ldd /bin/cat
ldd: /bin/cat: not a dynamic executable
ldd /usr/local/bin/pico
/usr/local/bin/pico:
-lpico.1 => /usr/local/lib/libpico.so.1.3 (0x10020000)
-ltermcap.2 => /usr/lib/libtermcap.so.2.1 (0x10045000)
-lc.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3.1 (0x10049000)
\_ Symantec VisualPage isn't too bad, has WSIWYG and allows you
to edit the source, and puts a minimum of extra crap into the code.
Should be able to download a demo from http://symantec.com. |
| 1998/11/11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14945 Activity:nil |
11/11 PARTY AT MICROSOFT!!!
http://www.svlug.org/events/tea-party-199811.shtml
Starts tonight 6pm.
\_ remember to behave professionally if you go -- Don Marti is
watching |
| 1998/11/11 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14943 Activity:high |
11/10 I have a large .txt file with data in it that I want to open
in excel. In order to do that, I need to delete all the
carriage returns from the file. Whats the fastest way to do
this?
\_ If you have Word, you can search for returns ("^n", I think)
and replace them with nothing, or a space. Most word-processors
should do this, but I assume that if you have Excel than you
also have Word. - mikeym
\_ eh? you want to remove CRLF (PC returns) or just CR?
Last I remember Excel imports fine with CRLFs.
\_ as common an operation as this is, you'd think they'd put in a
quick point'n'click operation to switch betwen unix and dos
end-of-line format. Oh wait, this is a microsoft product -- there
are no valid non-dos formats. -ERic
\_ echo `cat infile.txt` > outfile.txt -- yuen |
| 1998/11/9-11 [Computer, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14933 Activity:high |
11/09 The brightness control on my monitor is broken. I can decrease
the brightness but can't increase it. Does anyone know of a
program I can use to control the brightness of my monitor or
reset its brightness to a default value? I'm hoping for something
like xvidtune which can also control the brightness. My monitor
is a Hitachi SuperScanPro 620 in case it matters. If nobody
knows about such a program I would appreciate suggestions on how
I could get the info to write one. Thanks. -emin
11/09
If there's ever a sellout from soda like the traitor working for:
> <DEAD>Hit-Booster.com/WILLIAMALLEN<DEAD>
than we should all (a) kick him (b) reject him (c) spam him
and if anyone is bored - feel free to investigate their server
for weakness. By the way, they have a huge form, and the only thing
checked? is the credit card! not the website, not your name, only
the CC#/date. Try it yourself, you'll see they're a scam using soda
emails found by either security holes, or a traitor.
\_ Not under warrantee anymore?
\_ It was given to me so I don't have the warranty
11/09
If there's ever a sellout from soda like the traitor working for:
> <DEAD>Hit-Booster.com/WILLIAMALLEN<DEAD>
than we should all (a) kick him (b) reject him (c) spam him
and if anyone is bored - feel free to investigate their server
for weakness. By the way, they have a huge form, and the only thing
checked? is the credit card! not the website, not your name, only
the CC#/date. Try it yourself, you'll see they're a scam using soda
emails found by either security holes, or a traitor.
registration. -emin
\_ what OS?
\_ LINUX or Win95. If you have a solution for another OS
please let me know anyway. -emin
\_ Win95: Intel i740 chipset video cards (most available
are AGP) have gamma correct built-in to the Display
properties. Works well. Not quite monitor hardware
control but it may help. Borrow an i740 from a friend.
-jctwu
\_ Why don't you take it for repair? It's highly unlikely that you
can control the monitor brightness with software.
\_Cuz he stole it.
\_ 1) Turn off for at least several hours.
2) Open case
3) turn up brightness from control that is broken from the
outside
\_ Turning off the monitor even for several hours does not
insure that the charge built has dissipated, be carefull.
\_ Best to just discharge the CRT once you turn it off, then you
can be reasonably sure its safe. Not something I'd recommend
for someone who's never done it before, or who doesn't know
how to safely discharge a CRT.
\_ Someone told me I had to lick both my thumbs and press them
against the tube while I was standing barefoot in a puddle of
saltwater. |
| 1998/11/3-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14896 Activity:high |
11/3 <DEAD>208.16.54.204/index.html<DEAD> Whoops, looks like someone already owns the trademark to Windows 2000. It'd be funny to read a press release by M$: "Windows 2000, which was once known as NT 5.0, is now known as NT 5.0." \_ This guy's smart. Remember the other guy who got millions from \_ you know what will be really smart is if you copyright Windows 2001,2002,...,NT 5.1, NT 5.2...That way M$ will have to pay you everytime they want to release a new OS. \_ Wow! I wish I had thought of that!!!!! Idiot, it doesn't work that way and even if it did, they'd just sue the shit out of you. Justice is only for the wealthy. out of you. Justice is only for the wealthy, not the stupid. \_ It would be even smarter if you learned proper English and that you can't "copyright" a word or phrase like "Windows 2001" (Trademark != copyright) \_ This guy's smart. Remember the other guy who got millions fro DEC for selling them the name http://www.altavista.com \_ Compaq actually \_ The guy who was using http://altavista.com was actually USING it, and had it before Digital started their altavista thing. You can't just domain-squat and expect to get anything from it. \_ how about http://www.abc.com abc had to pay a ton for that one \_ The guy's an idiot (or a weak-willed pussy). He isn't contesting microsloth's use. \_ Yeah he should throw away a few million bucks fighting M$ over the lousy name. What's he care? He's likely not only to lose, but to end up having to turn over the w2000 domain name too. He's *smart*, unlike you. Dummyhead. \_ "Dont ever fight microsoft. They're unbeatable" Yeah, that's the ticket. \_ Don't be stupid. I did *not* say that. I said it would be totally stupid for this guy to spend real money on this. Their use doesn't diminish the value for his use and even if it did it wouldn't be worth a law suit. "Go after M$ no matter what!! At all costs!!! Yeah!!! Fuck a real world business decision! SUE SUE SUE!! Years in court for *nothing*!! That's the ticket!!" Idiot. \_ You said he would proably have to turn over the windows2000 domain name. WTF? he was obviously using it first. Idiot. \_ Because, you fucking moron, they would obviously counter sue him for it and a million other things the moment he stuck his dumb ass anywhere near a lawyer. Grow up. "I had it first!" doesn't cut it in the real world. Money does and M$ has it. He has everything to lose and _nothing_ to gain by suing them. At best he can force them to change the name. BFD. What a victory. At worst he gets crushed in a counter suit since they've been using "windows" and it's variations since the mid-80's. You, Sir, are a total moron. \_ Your "argument" counts for any other opposition to MS: 'They will countersue, so run away'. Hence my original categorization of you, "Dont ever fight microsoft. They're unbeatable" Enjoy your slavedom, robot. \_ I second that. Hey, you might as well buy into every other thing that rich assholes tell you to beleive. \_ how about a story-specific url \_ As one of those rich assholes, I can tell you I'd rather get sued by some poor asshole like yourself than some other rich asshole who stands a chance of winning. You certainly don't. You can't afford justice. \_ Child, the US Government and 20 States are suing M$ with *your* money about what should be a cut'n'dry issue but they're likely to lose anyway. \_ Why should he sue them? Who cares? He won't get anything out of it even if he wins since he can't show any damages. The very idea of going to court for a few years over something like this baffles me. |
| 1998/11/3-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14894 Activity:high |
11/3 Could someone please repost the URL to that 'halloween.html'
article, the one about Microsoft and Linux?
\_ The URL is http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html --marc
This seems like a purposeful leak to make Linux seem like
a threat to Microsoft, and therefore imply Microsoft isn't
a monopoly with the intent of effecting the anti-trust lawsuits. -ax
\_ The memo seems like a purposeful leak by Microsoft to imply
there is an up and coming competitor to their OS that is not effected
by their existing marketshare, therefore proving they do not
have a monopolistic stranglehold on the OS market. That might
\_ The URL is http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html --mar
\_ The memo seems like a purposeful leak by Microsoft to impl
there is an up and coming competitor to their OS that is not effecte
by their existing marketshare, therefore proving they do no
have a monopolistic stranglehold on the OS market. That migh
slow down the governments anti-trust hearings
\_ Damn! Those evil Redmond lawyers are so smart
\_ however, that does not obviate their previously illegal activites
\_ Do you mean "obviate" or "absolve" ?
\_ either/both
\_ the words have different meanings.
\_ and either are appropriate in this case.
\_ actually the sentence doesn't really make sense
with either word.
\_ "that does not [aquit them from] their
previous illegal activities".
ref: http://dictionary.com
Okay, obviate isn't the best fit as it stands,
for intended meaning. Although taken on the
face, it still is a true statement.
This release in no way diminishes the
effectiveness of their prior activities :-)
\_ obviate means "to anticipate and prevent
(as a situation) or make unnecessary (as
an action)." it refers to events or actions
that have not yet taken place. you cannot
use it to refer to past activities. |
| 1998/11/3-4 [Industry/Jobs, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14892 Activity:high 52%like:14543 50%like:15262 |
11/3 EECS Instructional is *still* looking for a full-time staff member.
/csua/pub/jobs/EECS-Inst-PAIII or
http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~iesg/jobs.html
-brg <--- overworked, but not underpaid.
\_ We also have an opening for a student who can admin NT. -brg
\_ Could be a good opportunity for all the people who whine about
\_ We also have an opening for a student who can admin NT. -br
\_ I tend to attribute the suck to the approximately 1:1,200
\_ Could be a good opportunity for all the people who whine abou
how "EECS Instructional sucks!" to do something about it
\_ I tend to attribute the suck to the approximately 1:1,20
\_ No way, eh. I was a PAI.... -blojo
\_ I tend to attribute the suck to the approximately 1:1,200
Instructional staff-to-user ratio
\_ I worked as a PAIII and the pay sure sucked
\_ that you blojo? peacock? is that you buddy
\_ No way, eh. I was a PAI.... -bloj |
| 1998/11/3-4 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14889 Activity:moderate |
11/3 Computer for sale. 9months old. K6-200Mhz, 64 SDRAM, 4.3GB,
ATI all-in-wonder /w TV, 3D accel, etc. Creative DVD drive and
decoder card. 56.6k f/v/m, SB 64AWE, ProAlpha super case 3 fans,
15" digital monitor. Win98, MS office, DragonNatspeak 3.01 which
is $695 speach recognition software. $1000 or best offer. -hitran
\_ Wow, damn good deal. I'd get it, but i already have a computer
\_ Actually Dragon is $100-$150. Will you be selling the original
media or keeping it? Is it okay to use the motd to post ads for
\_ Wow, damn good deal. I'd get it, but i already have a compute
\_ actually it's the Deluxe edition so it IS $695...look
it up...you can't buy this one just anywhere.-hitran
\_ Why are you selling it? I don't think you'll be able to sell it
\_ Actually Dragon is $100-$150. Will you be selling the origina
\_ hey dumbass, it will be kinda hard for him to do that if
media or keeping it? Is it okay to use the motd to post ads fo
\_selling it cuz I'm short on cash.-hitran
piracy if you're not selling the originals
\_ yup...I have the media disc of Dragon Natspeak. but win98
\_ actually it's the Deluxe edition so it IS $695...loo
it up...you can't buy this one just anywhere.-hitra
\_ Why are you selling it? I don't think you'll be able to sell i
it here. but let me know if you get it sold and how much
\_ hey dumbass, it will be kinda hard for him to do that i
you don't sign your fucking name
\_selling it cuz I'm short on cash.-hitra
\_ Pretty good if software is not pirated
\_ yup...I have the media disc of Dragon Natspeak. but win9
was installed...so it might be pirated |
| 1998/11/3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14884 Activity:high |
11/2 Anybody know if this is for real
"Eric Raymond was recently leaked an internal Microsoft memo
outlining strategies to be used against open-source software.
The document, with esr's comments, is available for your personal
enjoyment." http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html
\_ i have too many projects and midterms to read the whole damn
thing. what's the gist?
\_ if it is a hoax, someone had way too much time on his hands.
it's pretty lengthy & detailed.
\_ This is already posted below (q.v.).
\_ http://www.slashdot.org has a headline saying microsoft admits the
oss memo is authentic...
\_ http://news.com & the wall street journal got microsoft spokesdroids
to confirm it |
| 1998/11/1-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14869 Activity:high |
10/31 "Why is ``Windows 98'' so buggy? Microsoft is fighting an
uphill battle: conceptually, they're still somewhere
in an eating place in Qandahar pointing at various kinds
of sheep kebabs. UNIX, on the other hand, is sitting in a
smoky student cafe in Hamburg discussing abstract
philosophy, and people around don't have the faintest idea what
they're talking about"
-from this month's daemon news
\_ Uhm yeah whatever. Very deep.
\_ It was put up because I found it amusing, not deep.
\_ Must be something wrong with me then as I find it neither
amusing not deep. What was amusing or deep about it?
amusing nor deep. What was amusing or deep about it?
\_ It's amusing as a nice metaphor for the sophistication of
Unix and its design as compared to those of Windows 9{5,8}.
See the article it comes from for a more substantial account. |
| 1998/10/29-31 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14851 Activity:low |
10/28 For those who already have Photoshop 5, what are some of the key
features you like? Is it really worth upgrading from 4 to 5? Thanks.
\_ multiple undos = GOOD THING. also smarter selection tools.
much better text manipulation. but is this and more worth the
upgrade? judgement call here... imho, no.
\_ and for about $0 you can get a lot of the same high quality
image manip tools as Photoshop. http://www.gimp.org
\_ And it works with my Wacom Artz II =) --dbushong
\_ what is that?..some kind of pen input device? The last
time i used one of those i found it to be more annoying
than helpful
\_ The text manipulation is only good for non-web graphics (ie
print graphics)... There's a kerning bug in PS5 which prevents
it from rendering decent web type. -- chucky
\_ chucky needs to be sodomized
\_ seano needs to be sodomized
\_ I like Dr. Watson. |
| 1998/10/28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14844 Activity:nil |
10/27 Microsoft has decided to rename Windows NT 5.0 to Windows 2000
for the year 2000. I guess we can see a trend here. check out
http://www.news.com
\_ "Windows 2000 will emerge in 1999, and will become a
substantial part of the market by the year 2000."
--- Brad Chase, vice president of Windows marketing
\_ I have my doubts that either of these will happen.
\_ Windows 2000: the number of new bugs introduced that'll have to
be fixed by SP2 before anyone takes it semi-seriously. |
| 1998/10/24-25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14821 Activity:high |
10/23 Does Win3.1/95/NT use single-byte or double-byte characters
internally? Thanks.
\_ 3.1 uses single-byte
\_ Others don't; it may depend on the version of NT, though.
\_ WinNT uses Unicode internally (Win32), which is double-byte. Win95
supports most of the specs of Win32, but because of its Win3.1
heritage, uses ANSI strings, which are usually single-byte. -jctwu |
| 1998/10/16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14784 Activity:moderate 50%like:14602 |
10/15 Want to do $ome Win95 tutoring? /csua/pub/jobs/tutor10.15.98
\_ the only thing you need to know about Win95 is that you press
ctrl-alt-del every five minutes.
\_ Hmmm...how come I can't find the "ctrl-alt-del" key on my
keyboard? Is it on my mouse? Or mousepad? Monitor? |
| 1998/10/13-15 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14768 Activity:high |
10/12 Meet Eric Allman, creator of Sendmail - Wednesday, Oct. 14th
Sendmail Info-session, 5:00pm Wozniak Lounge.
Pizza (Zachary's I think) and raffle, Bring your resume!! -- chucky
\_ or your gun . . .
\_ Give me a B! Give me an E! Give me a N!
Give me C! Give me an O! What's that spell?
Louder! I can't hear you!
\_ or your gun . . .
\_ It's a little weird to envision being _hired_ by Sendmail.
\_ Why? It's just another software computer company.
\_ It's also a legendary part of Unix -- imagine being hired
by Cron or something.
\_ It's funny how the most widely used mail routing softwrare has
\_ Yeah whatever. Get your head out of the clouds.
It's a software company like any other. Perhaps
I simply lack your point of view. I'll leave it
at that.
\_ It's funny how the most widely used mail routing software has
been the most critcized for security flaws. The guy at Cornell
who wrote the worm that infected a third of the internets computer
exploited a little hole in the software.
\_ It's the intertia thing. Who wants to learn a new mail system?
\_ No one finds bugs in software no one uses. Netscape, MSIE,
Windows 95/NT, and plenty of UNIX software have also been
found to be riddled with security flaws.
\_ Yeah, but in the unix world holes get fixed.
\_ Which is why 10 years after the Internet worm,
buffer overflows are still being found since
individuals holes are fixed, but no one learns.
Look how long it's taken to get snprintf() support
in all the major unix flavors.
\_ 20 years from now, NT 11.8 will be on service pack
14beta and it still won't work right.
\_ Windoze will crash and burn before reaching
version 11.8.
\_ We can only hope.
\_ see, m$ keeps all their source code
for NT on some computer running NT.
now when that computer starts crashing
enough times the file system will be
corrupted and the vioala, no more source
code for Windows NT...and then the
world rejoices!
\_ sendmail hasn't had any new security holes in quite
some time. It went through a security audit a while back
that appears to have caught a lot of the potential
problems. -tom
\_ now if only they could fix that durn performance problem.
\_ performance isn't a serious issue for 99% of the
machines out there. The fact that it's a pain
to set up and use is. -tom
\_ Yeah just throw more hardware at it, MS style.
\_ MS clearly didn't invent that strategy. -tom
\_ no, they invented the virus disguised as an OS. |
| 1998/10/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14747 Activity:high |
10/6 How come the "loadhigh" command doesn't work on the NT command prompt?
\_ cuz NT is not a dos OS. |
| 1998/9/29-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:14696 Activity:high |
9/29 Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to install 2.5.1 on an
ULTRA ? Doing a boot cdrom from a solaris 2.5.1 CD keeps on asking
me for the kernel location --ramberg
Sounds like an Ultra 5, 10, 30 running an older 2.5.1
CD. You need 2.5.1 HW 11/97 or later. Could also
be the eeprom settings. -ax
\_ If this is indeed an ultra5,10, or 30, most 2.5.1 revs
are missing the /platform/SUNW,Ultra-n link with which
it tries to track down the kernel. try giving it
"/platform/sun4u/kernel/genunix" or sumthn like that.
then, when it's installed, make sure to make the link
in /platform. -- scotsman
\_ Install a REAL OS like NT or 95/98. (hah! take *that* you *NIX
bigots!)
\_ Yes, there's a reason. You need a real OS like Windows!
\_ Yes, there's a reason. You need a real OS like Windows! All
the folowing comments make it clear why Windows is winning and
*NIX is for geeks.
Sounds like an Ultra 5, 10, 30 running an older 2.5.1
CD. You need 2.5.1 HW 11/97 or later. Could also
be the eeprom settings. -ax
\_ If this is indeed an ultra5,10, or 30, most 2.5.1 revs
are missing the /platform/SUNW,Ultra-n link with which
it tries to track down the kernel. try giving it
"/platform/sun4u/kernel/genunix" or sumthn like that.
then, when it's installed, make sure to make the link
in /platform. -- scotsman
\_ it is the CD-ROM, 11/97 is the correct HW release. --jon
\_ If it's the original 2.5.1 release it only supports the Ultra 1/2,
& {3,4,5,6}000 - later models need later releases |
| 1998/9/27 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14682 Activity:high |
9/26 Anyone know of a free LAN<->Internet routing software for win98.
only one i can find is WinGate which isn't exactly freeware...
\_ Linux
\_ No money for another box...and we want to keep all the
machines running windoze...
\_ then you deserve what you get. if you're running windoze,
you should be used to paying for software. Unless you're
pirating, in which case, again, you deserve what you get.
\_ ick. And more Linux developers have a free software
mentality: since others shared code with them, they more often
want to share code with others. A very small percentage of
the best software for non-free platforms is free. You will
probably find a free (WWW) proxy, but probably not free
masquerading. But this has been in the Linux kernel for
several years, at a cost to you for $0 per seat.
\_ go dumpster diving - for just a gateway machine a 386 or 486
will work
\_ Yes, a peecee un*x box would fit the bill, especially since you
can get away with a cheapo one for this purpose. But for
strictly Winbloze platforms, what is it about WinGate that doesn't
suit? It's pretty much freeware if you're just using it around the
house, like to have two peecees connected to the net. Are you
doing this at a commercial site or something? --sowings
\_ i was under the impression that "1 user" literally
meant..one user.. from the way the "readme" described it..
it said only 1 user can be on the net at a time in this
mode... for more than 1 user..it's pay...
\_ Actually, when they say one user, they mean one user, not
counting the actual wingate machine. So if your network will
only consist of 2 machines, then it'll work, and it's free..
but again, a Linux box is probably a better long term
solution. |
| 1998/9/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14649 Activity:kinda low |
9/21 Is there a way to make the "at" command on WinNT execute as a
particular user? Thx. -- yuen
\_ No. Try a third party cron software such as Crond.
\_ Yes. Try su for Win32 included in the NT ResKit. -slow
\_ Where can I find NT ResKit? I searched M$ website and I only
found Resource Kits for Exchange, Project, etc, but not NT
itself. Thx again. -- yuen
\_ Which?
a) you want to run the "at" command as a certain user, or
b) you want the commands scheduled to be executed using a certain
user's privileges?
Questions sounds like a, but most people want b.
Someone deleted my b answer, too. -jctwu |
| 1998/9/15-16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14603 Activity:moderate |
9/15 is eudora 4.1 beta stable enough to use?
\_ It's a beta. That means you're testing unstable code.
\_ Some companies betas are more stable than other's releases.
(I'll take a Solaris beta over a Win NT release any day.)
\_ That's because you haven't learned Microsoft speak
yet. Win NT 4.0 = "beta release". 4.0SP4 is the
the real release.
\_ THERE IS A SP4??? Where can I get it (without
registering w/ M$)?
\_ MS has been saying it will be released
RSN for many months, but everytime they
get ready for release, they find new bugs
to fix. It might or not make it out before
the NT 5.0 release in 2000.
\_ If you're special, you can get parts of it
or (get this!) a beta SP4 release. |
| 1998/9/14-15 [Reference/RealEstate, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14591 Activity:nil |
09/13 Studio for sublet for semester or longer.
http://soda.berkeley.edu/~hitran/sublet.html -hitran
Please don't delete this.
\_ try putting it in /csua/pub/housing
\_ Learn how to make a real web page, not just using MS crap that
puts in IMG src="file:///C:/My%20Documents/rent/floorplan.gif"
(like we can see gifs on your stupid winblows machine)
\_ And while you're at it, learn how to spell |
| 1998/9/13-15 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14586 Activity:very high |
09/13 Does anyone have Quickbooks that I might borrow it...uh... to, you
know, *try it out* before I *buy* it (Win98)? - seano
\_ You can get a trial copy off the web site. Works for something
like 50 transactions.
\_ I'd like to try it out for a few years. I'd also like to copy
the docs and burn off a few thousand copies to sell. -seano
\_ What a pathetically obvious forgery. Note the lack of ' '
after the '-' before "seano" to be consistent. Note the
extra space indent before the \_. Sheesh, what is simple
forging coming to? -not seano
\_ Uhm, wtf are you talking about? -confused that you give a shit
\_ Dear confused. I advise that you examine your feelings of
anger, confusion, and rejection. Why do you feel this way?
\_ I'm not angry or rejected. Just confused.
You may come to realize that these negative emotions are
unnecessary to your health and well being, and are holding
Feel your feelings, and be happy. - fake seano
you back from being true to yourself. Let it all out.
Feel your self, and be happy. - fake seano
\_ I NEEEEED MY PAIN! -JTK
\_ wtf are you using win98 anyways, you cum-tasting whore?
\_ Cum tastes gooood! especially after you eat lots of fruit
\_ meat (especially red meat) makes nasty-tasting cum, so
if you want more blowjobs, become a vegetarian
\_ Get someone less prissy to suck your cock.
the docs and burn off a few thousand copies to sell.
\_ Okay, it looks like I have to set the score straight for you
unfortunate abortion mishaps: I don't want a trial copy of
quickbooks. I do want to try it out for an unspecified length
of time. If there is a SunOS 5.yadda version, I can use that
too BUT THERE ISN'T SO I HAVE TO PUT THE WIN95 VERSION ON
A WIN PARTITION DON'T I, MR. CUM-CONNAISSEUR. Finally, I don't
care when losers forge my name because I'm a megalomaniac
impressed by instances like this that illustrate how lesser
people actually spend time concerned with me. -(fucker)
\_ then why didn't you just ask if anyone had a copy of
Quickbooks for you to try? I'm sure someone would have
repsonded.
\_ whatever flora is stuck in your rectum compliments well
the fetid shit in your head... what sorry ass reason do
you have for your problem with the way I asked the
question and what makes you think no one responded? You
are the kind of fool who would be markedly improved by
\_ You seem somewhat distraught. Try pot.
repeated stomping to the head/neck/genital areas. -(fucker)
\_ like i said, if you asked politely someone might
answer. |
| 1998/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14547 Activity:low |
9/4 For a humourous (and plausible) story of someone giving
a MS Product Manager hell at Usenix NT, see:
~jon/pub/KornVsMS --jon
\_ This is great! Has this been confirmed?
\_ What's new? We already know that MS people don't have a clue
about what they're talking about. It's pretty funny though.
\_ Not that I am a great fan of MS software but you got to give
them credit for knowing how to kick the shit out of unix.
\_ csua should turn off acounts of berkeley alumns who
live in Redmond Washington.
\_ Not really. Anyone with a Marketing division could do
that. Who speaks for unix? No one.
\_ I am the Lorax, I speak for the BSDs. |
| 1998/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14543 Activity:low 52%like:14892 |
9/3 PA III (full time career position) opening in EECS Instructional &
Electronics Support. http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~iesg/jobs.html
or /csua/pub/jobs/EECS-Inst-PAIII --brg
\_ Noooo... don't do it!
\_ kind of feels like going on a date with your sister, doesn't it?
\_ I don't have a sister, but maybe. It's more like a gilded
cage on a slave ship. |
| 1998/9/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14535 Activity:high |
9/2 Can someone give me help on authenticating NT users to a Linux
box running Samba? Specifics in ~john/samba-nt. No "NT sucks,
run Unix instead", since if this works we can ditch all our NT
servers... -John
\_ See the docs/security_levels.txt file distributed with samba.
\_ You want to set "security = server" in smb.conf, and then add
"password server = ntbox" (where ntbox is an nt machine that
can authenticate users). See the docs/security_levels.txt file
distributed with samba.
\_ RTFM. This is all clearly document in the samba docs.
\_ RTFM. This is all clearly documented in the samba docs.
\_ Answers like this suck. It may be better to say which docs
and where in the docs to find it, not just rtfm.
\_ You fucking idiot. There's an obvious "docs" directory in
the samba distribution with blatantly obvious filenames that
a moron even of your caliber could figure out. You want me
to edit the smb.conf file for him and wipe his ass with my
silk hanky, too? Answers like this are perfectly reasonable
when the docs are in your face and quite clear. You are such
a fucking idiot, I feel the need to say it twice.
\_ Calling me an idiot isn't helpful nor is answering rtfm to
even the most obvious questions.
It doesn't matter if the docs are in his face, he's asking
for your help not responses that say rtfm.
even the most obvious questions. Its lame CS people like
yourself who don't promote or encourage the use of technology
because your "know it all" attitude hinders anyone from
approaching you to learn. No, you don't have to edit his
smb.conf for him, but answering the question and then pointing
to docs will be the most useful especially if he's a newbie.
\_ It is not clearly documented in the samba docs. From the
smb.conf man page: "If you mostly use usernames that don't
exist on the UNIX box then use "security = share". Plus,
when I log into NT domain (y) from an NT workstation on
NT domain (x) I get my authentication information from
whatever NT server in (y) decides it's the most available
bdc (or pdc) rather than from one specific machine. Please
don't make vicious, stupid comments like that, or at least
sign your name, coward. -John |
| 1998/8/31 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14528 Activity:very high |
8/31 Running microsoft win 9X, Starting any number of programs, the
\_ which one? 95 or 98--or both?
machine crashes. Cntrl-alt-del gets you to see that msgsrv32 is
not responding (ending task usually allows normal comp. use
thereafter). I've scoured the net and the only advice that seems
to be out there is to turn off power management. This does not
help. Any suggestions? (Please not: "use a real o.s." If I could
get these people to use unix, i certainly would. Maybe Rhapsody will
save the universe; until then, please work within the (implied)
context of the question). Thanks. -crebbs
\_ format disk, reinstall windows, restore from backups ( you do have
backups, right? ). This is the general solution for all windows
problems. -ERic
\_ 95: you've installed all the available patches?
98: don't be stupid. Wipe disk, install 95 + patches.
Poss. alternative: install NTWS if you've got the HW for it and
it runs the required software. |
| 1998/8/25 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14501 Activity:nil |
8/24 Los Angeles School District accused of software piracy (to the
tune of $5 million) See:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/98/08/cyber/education/12education.html
\_ They only paid $300K in fines, right? More $ -> Bill! |
| 1998/8/14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:14457 Activity:high |
8/14 Does anyone know of any good linux file viewers. Something
similar to MacOS finder or BeOS desktop. I want something that
DOES NOT look like MS Windows Exploder.
\_ Try IE4.0 with ActiveDesktop. Can't go wrong.
\_ They ported it to Linux???
\_ MS is everywhere.
\_ Try kfm, it comes with KDE. Its sort of like the Windows
Explorer and the MacOS Finder rolled into one. Another
alternative would be to install "Crappy" Desktop
Environment and use dtfm. I've heard that GNOME and
GNUstep have nice file viewers, but I have not used these
myself. As a former mac user, I find xterm and ls much
more pleasing than the finder. |
| 1998/8/13 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14446 Activity:nil |
8/12 I have a PII and I've got Linux running on it. I have
6G hard drive space and I'm considering repartitioning
and then installing Win95/98 on it along with Linux,
but after reading usenet posts on it, have been a bit
wary. It doesn't look very pretty. My question for
Sodans: Have you successfully installed both on your
computer? If so, how did you set your computer to boot?
Thanks...
\_ Barring availability of a program like Partition Magic or
System Commander, the best way I've found is to install
Windows 95 first and then install Linux. Tell Linux you
want to boot from a floppy. It's not much slower and it'll
save you grief if you need to reinstall Windows, because
Windows will mess with your MBR. I do this with Redhat and
Windows 95 OSR2 all the time. Forget lilo. --dim
\_ Ugh, boot disks are a pain in the ass. I've successfully
installed an unistalled linux and lilo with great ease. To
get rid of any history of linux+lilo just restore your
original partition with fips and run fdisk /MBR which will
retore you master boot record to its original state. Hell,
you might like linux so much that you'll get rid of win95
all together. :-)
\_ You just keep the boot disk in the drive all the time.
Not a big deal. The problem is not uninstalling Linux,
but reinstalling Windows. It will hose the MBR and lilo
in its march towards world domination! --dim
\_ Many people who dual boot install ms windows first and then use
a drive partitioner like Partition Magic or fips (fips15c comes
with many linux distributions) to chop the drive. Don't forget
to defrag you drive first. I wouldn't worry too much because
you can always undo this. If you have any valuable data backup
it up first (ie. old papers and projects) onto some mass
storage device. If you have a new computer you probably have
FAT32 which I hear is a pain in this ass. You'd better check
up on that. There are many ways to dual boot but the best way
is linux loader (lilo). To get rid of it (and the linux OS)
type fdisk /MBR from the dos prompt
\_ oh yeah, if you're installing from the RH distribution the
installation software will automatically detect the other
OS's partition and set lilo to dual boot both OS's. It
selects linux as the default boot and gives you about 10
seconds to decide at startup. To change the lilo settings
edit the /etc/lilo.conf file and invoke /sbin/lilo. You
should also do this after recompiling your kernel.
\_ Dual booting works fine; you just have to understand what you
are doing. LILO rules; I once used it to setup 4 OS's on the
same computer, including both SCO and Interactive Unix which
used the same partition id and refused to coexist (had to create
hand-edited MBRs...). Do the following:
- back up current Linux stuff.
- boot from a DOS 7.0 floppy, blow away Linux partition, create
a Primary partiton (3G or something) -- then you don't have
to resize it later.
- install DOS 7.0.
- install Linux, creating appropriate partitions.
- install LILO on Linux root partition; this doesn't affect MBR,
which M$ OS's have a habit of randomly overwriting.
- mark Linux partition "active" with either DOS or Linux fdisk.
\_ NOOO! Don't put win95 on your PC! It will permanently crash it!
\_ NOOO! Don't put linux on your PC! It will permanently crash it! |
| 1998/8/8-13 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14430 Activity:nil |
8/7 http://www.salonmagazine.com/sept97/21st/gates970925.html |
| 1998/8/7-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14425 Activity:insanely high |
8/7 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/1998/08/02/BUSINESS13169.dtl \_ ausman's quoted! \_ umm doesn't he know the author of that articla (reb eisenberg) personally? This is more of a logrolling thing than anything, and eisenberg's articles are usually pretty fatuous. But atleast she actually _quotes_ a human being in this one... \_ Linux maybe easy to install for soda geeks, but not for casual users. The learning curve of Linux is too steep for casual users. Why would my grandma want to know about file permissions and how to recompile the kernel when a new device is installed? I'd like to see an alternative to M$, but Linux at current stage just wont do it in the ease of use department. \_ The Linux OS is actually much simpler than the Win95 OS. It's overall structure may be somewhat difficult to understand at first but when you compare it to Windows 95 it's really not bad. The one thing that Linux lacks is a fully developed front end so doing any kind of configuration requires a geek brain. Windows, on the other hand, has such a fully developed front end that it covers up the horrible complexity of the OS. \_ The point made at the forum (yes I was there) was that most Windows users have *never* installed the OS... It came preinstalled on their machines. I installed RedHat 5.1 recently and it was so simple my iguana could do it. As for drivers, hello, Linux lets you compile things as modules that can be inserted into the kernel and removed at run time with no trouble. I'm sure it won't be long before RedHat automates getting and compiling new driver modules as root a reality... It's pretty likely that people will never have to be root on their own systems unless they want to be. -mogul \_ My grandmother has conceptual difficulty with the concept that moving the mouse causes the virtual pointer on the screen to move. What seems obvious to you, is not so to the average user. Kernel? Drivers? Modules? Compile? Root? Explain *that* to my grandmother. Good luck in Linuxland. Until you've got a Linux system my grandmother can deal with Linux won't be any sort of serious home market competition. \_ Hey motherfucker, *my* grandmother was Admiral Grace Murray Hopper's secret lesbian lover on-and-off throughout the 1950s. *She* invented COBOL, and that bitch Hopper stole it from her and took all the credit. She got a UNIVAC running with a soldering iron and a bootstrap paper tape (punched by hand, with a pencil, guessing where the holes should be) just in time for it to predict that Eisenhower would win the Presidential election on national TV. *My* grandmother *laughs* at Windows, saying that it's only fit for people who drool on themselves. JUST BECAUSE YOUR GRANDMOTHER IS "SPECIAL", DON'T EXPECT THAT EVERY OTHER SINGLE DAMN ELDERLY PERSON IN AMERICA IS TECHNICAL IMBECILE. THANK YOU. A TECHNICAL IMBECILE. THANK YOU. \_ Yep, exactly. A univac and soldering iron is just as far from real people as linux. Thanks for helping to make my point. \_ STUPID SERIES OF BRAINLESS FLAMES DELETED \_ My grandmother was scared of the point-and-shoot camera we gave her for Christmas (total controls: on/off switch, "take picture" button) and wanted us to take it back because she was afraid she'd never be able to learn how to use it. Obviously, she'll never become a Windows user, either -- therefore, Windows can never succeed in the commercial marketplace! QED. Using "my grandmother can't \_ Your grandmother is a bonehead. What more is there? The world will be a better place when the old bag is dead and the rest of us can move on without her. don't have the time to wait for hackers to write the do this" is a boneheaded metric. \_ STUPID BRAINLESS FLAME DELETED \_ Hmmm...does an average user know what "compiling a new driver" is? My sister has no concept of a hard disk, memory or cpu. Some of my co-workers (who are EE) think hard disk and memory are the same thing and use those terms interchangeably. \_ I've had to deal with the RAM/HD thing before too. After 10 minutes of careful explanation, they still didn't get it. Let's get real here, folks, the vast majority of people don't think Windows is easy. Forget any sort of unix until it's as easy, or easier to install,use, configure, upgrade, patch, etc, as windows is today. \_ For what it's worth I think that anyone who likes computers (as opposed to just tolerating them) can install and run Linux successfully. By the way, I know a lot of grandfathers who have had no trouble installing Linux. Many grandfathers are in their \_ Keep the discrimination bullshit off the motd. I know you're inundated with that crap at Cal everyday but seriously, it has no place outside your save the whales sociology classes. the whales sociology classes. The typical grand father outside a trailer park is in his 60s or older. Unlike your grandfather he didn't impregnate his own daughter to produce his own son/grandson. \_ Fuck off, anonymous asshole. --dim \_ oooh, aaah, your sharp wit has cut me to the bone! oh help me! help help! Your genetic "purity" is showing through. \_ Fuck off, anonymous asshole. --dim \_ Fuck off, you purified asshole. 40's (although I know some in their 60's running Linux). Why discriminate based on age? --dim \_ stupid series of brainless flames deleted. \_ Take a look at redhat 5.1. If you can't install that, you probably can't program your VCR's clock either. -jor Why are we still talking about Sunday's paper, anyway? \_ I can't program my VCR's clock but I can program in 5 major languages, multiple OS experience, write client/server apps, etc, etc. What's your point? My computer isn't a VCR. \_ It would be nice if other hardware vendors would support it. Device drivers are typically 6 months behind. \_ What for? Hackers can just deal or write their own drivers and it's too hard for the home market. \_ First of all, I am not a hacker. Secondly, I don't the time to wait for hackers to write the drivers. Thirdly, it's to time consuming to search for drivers that hackers wrote. \_ Yes, and why should the companies waste their time writing drivers for all 6 of their linux customers when they could make some real money from their potentially millions of windows customers? You have 3 choices: 1)use windows, 2)write your own drivers, 3)just deal with the fact that you're not using a consumer level OS and all that goes with it. It's a pure fantasy to think linux will get new drivers at the same rate as windows users. Who gives a flying fuck about a zero income producing market? \_ you are a dumb fuck. gnu software is a zero income market because PEOPLE DON'T CHARGE FOR THEM not because they're \_ My OS user base has grown %100 in the last 5 minutes. We went from 1 user to 2. Lesson: don't use statistics to lie. Growth is meaningless. Only current and immediate future absolute figures count. Your lack of concern for income is one reason you'll never manage anything but your linux box and your dog house and I'll bet your dog goes on strike in the first 6 weeks. inferior. \_ i give a flying fuck about a zero income market considering that they make real OS's. Windows may dominate now but \_ Linux is s0 k-rad it kan f1t en 2kay!!!1112!@!@11 Linux has the fastest growing user base in the OS market. It is expected to soon outdo MacOS. \_ STUPID BRAINLESS FLAME DELETED \_ The article mentions that Linux was ported to the Palm Pilot. infoP? \_ check recent issues of MicroTimes/Computer Currents (within the last month or two); I saw an article there on the porting project, but I don't recall when. -goetz \_ How??? PalmPilot can hold only like 2MB of ram/storage. \_ Linux is s0 k-rad it kan fit en 2kay!!!1112!@!@11 \_ I know someone running it on a PalmPilot. It's pretty cool. --dim \_ "cool" is a good metric. How about "useful"? \_ a multiuser OS in the hand of a clueless(which the majority of the casual users are) is more vulnerable security wise than an OS designed with clueless user in mind(Windoze). Do those Linux distributors have a version with most vulnerable service turned off? \_ Who is going to tell my grandmother she needs a security patch later, much less help her install it and make sure it's done? Who will help her install MSWord on her Linux box? \_ Who will tell your grandmother that she needs a new version of MSIE or Netscape or Eudora because of insecurities in the current version? Who will help her install MSWord on her Win<xx> box? If your grandmother falls in the forest and there is nobody around to hear it, does she still make a sound? All these are questions that you must answer before you reach the path to true enlightenment. \_ I answered this but it was deleted: anyone who can double click the SETUP.EXE icon will do it for her. This means tech support from anyone, the kid who cuts her grass, a friendly neighbor, the plumber who fixed her broken pipe last week. None of those people is going to have a friggin clue about linux and rightly so. Trying to claim windows is as uncommon or hard to use as linux is beyond stupid. That sort of comment puts you well into the realms of the self deluded and blind. |
| 1998/8/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14418 Activity:high |
7/31 Latest M$ claim:
The company said the following in court filings: [...] It
planned to integrate its Internet Explorer technologies "long
before" Netscape Communications even existed, refuting the
government's claim. In a conference call, Microsoft
said that it has been working since as far back as late
1993 on this project.
\_ I've seen IE on the Win 95 beta (code name Chicago) in summer of
1994. It wasn't called IE then. At that time, I had no idea
what WWW is.
\_ I remembered when Chicago was being presented. It was
the days of NCSA Mosaic which was about the same time that
Netscape was about to start. www wasn't as big but it was
still there.
\_ is really doesn't matter what m$/gov claims on the ie issue. in
the end gov will define clearly what an o/s is and is not, and what
an app is and is not for the software industry because the software
industry is either incapable or unwill to do it. just compare it with
the development of the tv rating system.
\_ I thought the IE/OS issue has already been settled by some
court. The issue now is whether M$ has participated in
anti-competitive practices such as designing OS to purposely
destroy its competitors (Netscape, RealNetworks, Caldera,
etc.
\_ That decision was decided by judges who knew jack
about what an OS and web client is. M$ can make the
\_ What the judges say, ignorant or not, is what
will happen.
ridiculous argument that merging OS/IE improves
performance because it allows it to load up faster.
the icon it won't take as long. Hell, might as well
When you think about this really means that Win98
loads up most of IE so that when you double click
load programs into memory because it will already be
the icon it won't take as long. Hell, you might as well
load up every other program on your computer at boot
time while you're at it. That way you won't have to
load programs into memory when you really need them
because it will already be
there. The fact is Active Desktop SUCKS, and so
does IE, and your computer is not a fucking web
page. You don't internet explore your hard drive.
\_ The best thing about the Active Desktop is that
you still have the option to turn it off. --dim
\_ IE not only loads faster, it runs faster than
netscape.
\_ Here's the deal. Windows 98 is faster than
than Windows 95 with IE4 integrated. BUT, Windows
95 without IE4 (i.e., not integrated but as a separate
app or just running Netscape) is FASTER than both
Windows 95+IE4 integrated AND Windows 98. --pcjr
\_ In what way? Java? That's because they
changed the specs to be M$ pseudo java. I
wonder how netscape and IE compare to each
other on a unix box where it's fair.
\_ Netscape beats the crap out of IE on a solaris
box. Despite netscape extermely slow load
uptime, it is still faster than IE which uses
all that MainSoft crap. And IE won't run on
anything less than an ultra, netscape will run
just fine on an SS2.
\_ *I* IExplore(tm) my hard drive! Bill said it was
the best way! Everything is a web page! All data
is best represented as a web page! BILL! BILL!
BILL! |
| 1998/7/10 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14312 Activity:moderate |
7/9 Beware Windows 98's File Deletion Bug!
<DEAD>www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/pcwtoday?ID=7366<DEAD>
\_ Boycott Windows. Get BeOS or Linux.
http://www.be.com http://www.redhat.com
\_ BeOS == Be, Linux != RedHat. http://www.debian.org
\_I was only trying to give out helpful pointers. Not
point to official pages. Speaking of which there's
<DEAD>callug.cs.berkeley.edu<DEAD>
http://www.linux.org
http://www.cheapbytes.com <-- get your $2 cd here
\_ just tried this. yucky, keyboard navig in win98 explorer
semi-br0ken from win95. mebbe I will replace win98 with a Linux
variant, but how can I be sure my Okidata Okipage 6e printer
(funky printer where OS does a lot of the computation through win95
specific drivers) would still work? Ack.
\_ I found my Cannon bj4000 printer on the filter list. If
you have a postscript printer then you're in luck because
you won't need any special filters. You can just send
postscript documents straight to the printer. Half the
laser printers out there are postscript.
\_ It might not; this is one way that Microsoft locks people into
its operating systems. "WinModems" and such. Try asking on
comp.os.linux.hardware if it's supported anywhere.
\_ Is anyone trying to set up a compatibility API so that
MicroSquish drivers can be used under linux and whatnot? |
| 1998/7/8-9 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14299 Activity:insanely high |
7/8 What happens if you do a set uid=0. Does that automatically
give your root access. (set gid=0, set user=root)
\_ You know, if you try logging in as "System Administrator"
without a password on some of those NT machines they'll let
you right in. Those are our security-minded sysadmins at
eecs instructional.
\_ NT is insecure by definition. Besides, who cares if
you can login as admin on an NT client? All you can
do is hoze the local machine, which is going to be
wiped & reinstalled anyway since NT sucks so badly.
\_ If you have access to the console, any OS is
insecure by definition
\_ If the machine is up and running, it's
insecure by definition.
\_ Strongly agree!!! The most
secured system is the one powered
off!!!
\_ Someone here gets the crash screen a few times a week. I
guess I am among the very few lucky ones since I've only
gotten the crash screen a few times in the past months.
\_ What's wrong with you people. I have NT running
\_ We're mad as hell that Microsoft is spending
millions of dollars in seldom-countered
\_ At least, I can run more applications than
Linux developer can support. Imagine trying
develop Oracle applications with Linux...
Oh..I forgot Oracle doesn't support Linux.
\_ If it's not supported by the major
software vendors or my company,
it's useless!!!
advertising that creates the impression that
there is something wrong with anybody who doesn't
Don't want to waste that on a Linux OS
where I can't install anything but
shareware and freeware.
use Microsoft software. (Even if that's not the
particular meme you were repeating.) The looks
you get when you say you don't use Windows are
like the looks when you say you're a vegetarian,
or an atheist. -- vegetarian atheist Linux user
use Microsoft software.
since last year, I have not experienced any
system crash yet. I have IIS 3, Oracle 8 server,
networking, and a bunch of DB development tools.
\_ your machine must be going at 2 miles per
hour. FOR THE LAST TIME...GET LINUX.
\_ Not if you got a PII with 300mhz system
and 128MB RAM, Dell Workstation 400.
Don't want to waste on a Linux OS that is
supported by shareware and freeware.
\_ machines scale linearly O(n) with
Linux and O(log(n)) with Winblows.
Funny, there's about ten times
more software with Windows but you
can still do so much more with
Linux.
\_ The point is, the software I need
to get my work done is not supported
by Linux. If you work for the
corporate company, you don't have
luxury of picking the sofware, in
my case database and web tools,
you want to use.
\_ I work with both unix and
winblows based machines at
work which involves web and
database integration. I find
unix tools much more flexible
and easier to work with than
the winblows ones. See Perl
DBI modules.
\_ My company doesn't like
\_ Apache has had in-proc
Perl support for a good
perl. We like products
been?
such as the Oracle 2000
products. It's faster
to develop and has nicer
UI. Besides, cgi/perl is
slow. It needs to compile
and start a process every
web access. If you need
support like 500+ users,
it's going be nightmare.
\_ Apache has had single
binary, in-process Perl
support for a good
long time. Where've you
been? Microsoft PR firm?
\_ So does IIS. That's
no point. There are
guidelines within
IS group of what
software is permitted
and what software
is not. For ex.,
we're not allowed
write java applets.
\_ Don't pretend,
then, please,
that the peculiar
prejudices of
your IS group
represent a good
technical
argument. "My
IS group hates
free software"
!= "besides,
cgi/perl is
slow". Your
companies can
detest free OSes
all they like,
but it doesn't
make them any
less scalable.
\_ It's a
Corporate
life. They
don't call
"corporate
slave" for
nothing.
\_ I'll take
my freedom,
thanks.
\_ Hear,
hear.
Working
for
someone
else's
IT
department
really
blows
goats.
Excuse
me
while
I
exacerbate
the
problems
that
this
particular
motd
was
developing
already.
-- tmonroe
\_ It's the
leaning
tower of
motd!
\_ AT some
point the motd
just has to wrap
back to the left
side. -ERic
\_ Yeah, God damn gcc, Perl, Apache, X11,
SSH, Emacs, GIMP, Netscape, and the rest
of them to HELL! They weren't written by
Microsoft Certified Developers! And none
of those wimpy languages like Scheme and
Java, because they aren't Visual Basic!
And BIND and sendmail supporting the
fundamental architecture of the
Internet... that's just a myth made up by
Microsoft haters! Everyone knows that
TCP/IP was really developed on Windows NT
by Microsoft Certified Developers, who
wouldn't touch that shareware and
freeware with a 1,024-foot pole!
\_ Tell that to your CIO.
\_ We already had this flamewar,
once upon a time: but I'll repeat
myself. It is not difficult to
get jobs using Linux which do
not require you to support
Windows.
I do not have a CIO, but I do
have a boss and coworkers who
are enthusiastic about software
other than that which you get
from Redmond. Thank you.
\_ Maybe I should quit my
$80+K job and my 5 yrs of
M$/Oracle experience and
go for Linux/Perl supported
company.
\_ Yes, you should. There
are already $80K Linux
jobs here and there, a
nice feat considering
the presently low market
share of Linux.
\_ With little or no
Linux experience???
I don't know. You'll
lucky to get $60-70K
job. I am sure if
you are expecting
10-20% increase for
job change. Good
luck if you looking
Linux job at $90-100K.
\_ yes.
\_ DUDE!!!! YOU'VE JUST FOUND A MASSIVE SECURITY HOLE!!!!!
DON'T TELL ANYONE, OR SUN WILL SEND A TEAM OF BLACKSUITED KILLER
NINJAS UNDER COVER OF NIGHT TO SNUFF YOU OUT!!!!
\_ Hmmm...I just tried this "% set uid=0; rm -f /etc/passwd" but
permission denied.
\_ Yer just not eleete enuf. try with a " ~ " before the
/etc/passwd.
\_ try cp /bin/csh ~; chown root:root ~/csh; chmod a+s ~/csh |
| 1998/7/6-7 [Computer/HW, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14290 Activity:very high |
7/6 Yes I did a stupid thing-- installing Active Desktop just to see what it
looks like. Now, how do I uninstall it? Please don't post anything like
"format, install a real OS" or "install NT again". Thanks.
\_ I think that formatting and re-installing Windows is your
best bet. Active Desktop leaves a lot of crap lying around
and makes your computer much slower, even if it is uninstalled.
\_ try hot sex on the carpet.
\_ that only works if you're trying to make your roomate go
away. a m$ program is a lot harder though.
\Nothing is as hard as I am when I think of psb -#1 PSB FAN
\_ I always just recorded live video/audio and sold it on
the net.
\_ Looks like you did the right thing.
\_ Let this be a lesson to install linux. Try finding someone
\_ WTF does linux have to do with active desktop?
who does have the IE4 uninstall option. Then try copying the
windows registry settings from their's onto yours. It's a
long shot but it might work.
\_ Damn, if this isn't the most dumbshit advice I've seen on
the motd in at least 24 hours....
\_ you might want to try this because not only will it get rid
active desktop but it will also give a you new clean registry
which will make your computer go a lot faster. Backup all
your personal files and installs onto a zip drive. Then
reinstall windows and everything else you backed up.
\_ He said none of that "install NT again". He wants a real
solution.
\_ Yes, you can disable Active Desktop. - William Gates
\_ Thanks for all the enthusiasm. Are there any real answer? Thanks.
(btw I can't uninstall under Add/Remove option)
\_ Do you have admin rights? I assume you do. Did you install
it as another user?
\_ I haven't personally tried this but coworker says to
uninstall IE4 completely and then reinstall IE4 without
the active desktop feature. --paulwang
\_ Just tried, can't find IE program in the Add/Remove menu.
\_ Go to "Product Updates" in the "Help" menu in IE4
it will bring up a menu of IE4 components you
can add/remove
\_ I can add but can't remove. Try it.
\_ Just in case, you have looked for Microsoft Internet
Explorer 4.0 in the Add/Remove menu right?
I have it in my menu and I'm pretty sure I've uninstalled
IE4 before. -- paulwang
\_ open My Computer, choose View, then Folder Options and then click
on the General tab. Select the Classic Style radio button and click
on Apply. Now click on OK. Next, choose View As Web Page to
deselect Web Page view. For all practical purposes, this puts you
back to the Standard Desktop.
\_ Yes, you can disable Active Desktop. - Jennifer Gates
\_ Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. - Sun Microsystems
\_ what do you guys know? You are Sun Microsystems
that is going nowhere but down.
\_ Sun Microsystems learned how to "go down" from yer mom
if you know what I mean.
\_ I don't know. Please explain in blow by blow detail.
\_ But this doesn't uninstall it. You're still clogged full of
shit all over your computer. You've only disabled some of it. |
| 1998/6/29-7/1 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14267 Activity:high 66%like:13852 |
06/28 Does Linux or FreeBSD compile for Win95/98?
\_ Can you play CDs in a VCR?
\_ No, but my computer has a retractable cup holder.
\_ Should be "Can you play a CD player in a VCR?".
\_ Yes. What of it?
\_ It compiles on NT (Open-Something environment)
\_ on != for
\_ Are you trying to get Winblows to emulate the entire Linux or
BSD OS? It won't happen. Anything M$ makes will crash
if it does anything remotely interesting.
\_ You want to run unix as an application under Win95? Are you
fucking stupid or just a fucking stupid troll?
\_ nuff said
\_ I think this person wants to create Linux or FreeBSD binaries
using Win95/98. But then why??? Just borrow some CD rom from
some Soda geeks.
\_ Sounds more like they want to compile binaries FOR Win9x
on Linux/FreeBSD, which would make developing Win code
less painful since you wouldn't actually have to use it.
\_ Possibly you can use the Cygnus stuff as a
cross-compiler to do that.
\_ Whatever they want, if they don't explain it fast, this whole
troll is getting purged. |
| 1998/6/11-16 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14203 Activity:moderate |
6/11 Next week I plan to try to meet the 6bone co-ordinator to discuss a
\-Do you mean Bob Fink?--psb
UCB student site on the 6bone (http://www.6bone.net which is the
worldwide experimental IPv6 Internet. I'm again asking for interested
parties who want to learn about the next-generation Internet protocol
through experience. If interested, please e-mail. -- schoen
\_ the csua should put one of the office sparcs on this & can also
help with the nameservice
\_ Cool, I'll bring it up at a meeting or come by. -- schoen
\_ Talk to the vp
\_ Er, a late-night chat with the VP was what
originally persuaded me this was feasible. I
think he knows about it. :-) -- schoen
\_ you mean PROPOSED next-generation internet protocol, which will just
get dumped by the wayside when Microsoft forces IP-NT down
everyone's throats. M$ jumped into IP late, which is the only
reason it's still around. They're not going to make the same
mistake again.
\_ Say what? IP-NT? WTF are you babbling about? MS is the only
reason IP still exists or the only reason MS still exists?
Both statements are ridiculously stupid. http://www.getagrip.org
\_ No, IP wasn't quashed because it was well established before
M$ could get around to making their own proprietary protcol.
They'll squash IP just as soon as they're done squashing IPX.
\_ They already made their own protocol. It sucked. --dim
\_ They already made their own protocol. It sucked. If it
was better than IP people would've wanted to use it
regardless of what was established first. --dim
\_ that won't stop them from trying to do it again.
Or forcing it down the market's throats anyway.
\_ M$ already made their own server OS, NT. It sucked
If it was better than unix people would've
wanted to use it regardless of what was
established first.
\_ Huh? NT is a moderate success. Netbeui is a
dismal failure. --dim
\_ Exactly. NT sucks but they're forcing it down
the market's throat anyway. You seem to have
missed the sarcasm's point.
\_ You missed my point, which is that M$
couldn't force Netbeui down the market's
throat. --dim
\_ Actually, I know the guy who just completed a IPv6
implementation for NT w/Microsoft.
\_ no surprise, they'll provide token support just like they
'support' IPX
\_ I am personally optimistic that IPv6 will be widely used; it
has the support of many people, and take a look at who the
existing 6bone sites are: some very influential players,
including the major networking hardware and software companies,
computer manufacturers, and ISPs. There is also a well-thought-
out gradual transition mechanism and substantial backward
compatibility. And yes, even Microsoft promises to embrace it
at present. As for the "PROPOSED" bit: IETF will never go back
on IPv6. Perhaps the big network of the future will be MSN
rather than the Internet, but the Internet itself will speak
IPv6, be it relevant to most users or not. -- schoen
\_ Foolish optimist. Most of the big players 'support' IPX too,
but that doesn't make it any less dead.
\_ YEAH!!! That "schoen" guy is a GREAT BIG DOODYHEAD!!!!!!
MICROSOFT WILL WIN!!!!! I'm already looking forward to
using MS-WWWINS (Microsoft World Wide WINS) as the protocol
on the NETWORK OF THE FUTURE, 'cause IT'LL BE GREAT!!!!!,
just like ALL MICROSOFT PRODUCTS!!!!!!! IPv6 SUX!!!!!!!! |
| 1998/6/2-4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14162 Activity:high |
6/1 Is there any way to measure time to the nearest milisecond (or
(less) under Windows NT 4? Can someone tell me where I can find
the answer to this question? Thanx. -dcw
\_ WINDOWS NT isnt accurate to the nearest millisecond.
\_ If it's a Pentium (P5/P54C/P55c) you can read the performance
counter registers which tell you the exact number of clock
cycles since reset. I believe the PPro/PII have something
#include <time.h>
clock_t start, finish;
start = clock();
finish = clock();
duration = double(finish - start)/CLOCKS_PER_SEC;
Routine Required Header Compatibility
clock <time.h> ANSI, Win 95, Win NT
The clock function tells how much processor time the calling process has
used. The time in seconds is approximated by dividing the clock return
value by the value of the CLOCKS_PER_SEC constant. In other words, clock
returns the number of processor timer ticks that have elapsed. A timer tick
is approximately equal to 1/CLOCKS_PER_SEC second. In versions of Microsoft
C before 6.0, the CLOCKS_PER_SEC constant was called CLK_TCK.
(this was taken fron MSVC++ 5.0 help files. Note that clock() returns -1
if the clock is unavailable for some reason.) --emarkp
similar. 486 doesn't. AMD, Cyrix, etc.: dunno. --phr
\_ KeQueryPerformanceCounter and if 1 microsecond is not good
enough, look at http://www.sysinternals.com/sysperf.htm -tracs
\_ Using Visual C++ 5.0, there was some ftime function that
put ms info into a structure. good for random seeds -jctwu
\_ You idiot, there's only 20 bits in a microsecond.
\_ you idiot, it should be "there ARE only 20 bitS...."
- your english prof.
\_ in theory 20 bits is bad, but it works really well
in practice - mail me if you want to talk about it
-jctwu
\_ look for clock() in the MSVC++ 5.0 help files -- emarkp (abridged) |
| 1998/5/22 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14127 Activity:moderate |
5/21 how do i get tcpip & remote dialup networking setup on windows 3.11?
\_ 3.11? Don't be daft. At least use win95, if not NT or unix.
\_ Boy, that was real useful. Do you work for Microsoft tech
support?
\_ get the TCP/IP add-on for WfW3.11 .. dial-up? use your ISP's win 3.1 prog
\_ Trumpet Winsock was what I used for win 3.1 (I dunno what the
differences are between 3.1 and wfw3.11). Go to http://www.tucows.com
to look for it.
\_ I remember using a program called Trumpet Winsock but I'm not
sure they still use that now. All I remember was that it stunk really bad
but that was what several ISP's recommended at the time. Personally, if I
were you I would just kill WFW3.11 and put Linux or Window$95. (I'm too
lazy to indent in pico). |
| 1998/5/5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14051 Activity:high |
5/5 There used to be (here on Soda) a neat little utility which
would find zipcodes (and/or Area Codes). Is there still?
What is it? thanks, -crebbs
\_ http://www.usps.gov/ncsc/lookups/lookup_zip+4.html and
http://www.555-1212.com/ACLOOKUP.HTML ?
\_ This has been done on unix, dos, windows, etc going back years,
but with all the new area codes, you're better off with the URLs
someone else posted.
\_ if you want the file versions, they are in /usr/share/misc. --aaron |
| 1998/5/2-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14036 Activity:moderate |
5/1 Recommendations for Windows 95/NT programming books in C++?
Beginner stuff, preferably. Thanx.
\_ wouldn't you rather have a Win95/NT C++ programming book in English?
\_ You moron. He/she wants to get a C++ program that outputs
Win95/NT programs.
\_ outputs Win95/NT books, you mean? Oh, okay.
\_ My favorite book is _Compleat Learn C++ Windows 95/NT Programming
in 21 Days for Morons and Dummies -- Unleashed!_ it comes with a
free copy of Internet Explorer and Netscape, and has supplementary
chapters on K-RAD MULT1PLAY3R 1NT3RN3T GAM3 PR0GRAMM1NG and "Why
Java beats the hell out of C, C++, Eiffel, and LISP".
\_ "Final Exit" by Derek Humphry
\_ "No Exit" by Jean-Paul Sartre
\_ "Programming Windows 95"
subtitle "The Definitive Developer's Guide to the Windows 95 API"
Charles Petzold, Microsoft Press, 1996
\_ "Windows 95 Programming Nuts and Bolts for Experienced Programmers"
by Schildt, Osborne Press. With this and the one above, you don't
need much more. This is the good intro, and Programming
Win95 is the reference on everything you might want to do. -mogul
\_ Does anyone have the new "Inside DirectX" book? I'm wondering if
\_ I'm as good as I am think
it's as good as it is thick.
\_ I'm as good as I am thick
\_ Covers everyhing other than D3D for which there will be
another book. - AdamG@MS
\_ D3D sux. Use OpenGL instead.
\_ We already had a memorial beer bash after you left. You
can't come back now. |
| 1998/4/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14018 Activity:nil |
4/27 Berkeley Systems/Bezerk is looking for a Unix/NT admin.
see /csua/pub/jobs/BerkSys --jwang |
| 1998/4/24-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14006 Activity:high |
4/24 There are many open positions at Berkeley based software company
that's growing fast and will probably go public next year.
I'm especially looking for NT/win95 sysadmin person. See
/csua/jobs/TomSawyerSoftware for more details and/or mail
me. -gabe
\_ Permission denied. Change the permissions.
\_ WinNT sysadmin is a contradiction in terms. -#9 psb fan
\_ I need to setup a WINS server or PDC with one-way trust with
another domain. So, who is supposed to setup it
up? An engineer? My janitor?
\_ Berkeley student with engineering major doing sys admin? Please
don't insult us.
\_ Funny thing is, sysadmins look down on engineers as mindless
grunts and bean counters. The truth is probably more like both
jobs require brains and talent which is taken for granted by
management, the true idiots of the world.
\_ Hellllooooo BOZO! This is the COMPUTER SCIENCE Undergraduate
Association. You are a moron.
\_ "us" refers to sys admins.
\_ Ok, then same answer: we can't do their jobs, they can't do
ours and anyone who hires one to do the other is a fool
anyway. Don't work for them. |
| 1998/4/22-24 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/HW, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14000 Activity:kinda low |
4/23 Where can I get a copy of emacs for PC? NT preferrably.
\_ Check the FAQ (<DEAD>www.geek-girl.com/emacs/faq/93.html<DEAD> you
amorous donkey: ftp://cs.washington.edu/pub/ntemacs/
\_ ftp://ftp.freebsd.com/ |
| 1998/4/22 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13992 Activity:nil |
4/21 I need WinNT 4.0 command-line equivalents of nice, sleep, and kill.
Any around? -jctwu
\_ http://www.itribe.net/virtunix
Unix95 Collection Version 7 contains the utilities you seek.
\_ tanx! =)
\_ Sure. The installer is at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/
\_ Why do people insist on posting this sort of religious stupidity?
Out in the RW, you don't always have the religious CS school
choice to use whatever you feel like. Yes, NT pretty much sucks,
and so what? The answer to an NT problem is *not* "Uh uh uh!
Install linux/freebsd/unix! Uh uh!" Get a clue. Try real life
for once.
\_ Why do people insist on posting this sort of "Oh _yeah_?????
Why don't you pussy CS students try living in the _REAL_
world???" macho bullshit? If your job consistently forces
you to use tools you dislike on a regular basis, then maybe
you weren't thinking too hard when you selected your
workplace.
\_ Give that attitude to a prospective employer and you won't
have too many workplace choices, boy. Or maybe not every
\_ The San Francisco Bay Area is by all accounts a
seller's market for technology jobs. People who
prefer to work on Unix have any number of options
around here. That's why this "real world" isn't
as dismal as all that.
\_ Wait until the market gets saturated.
Then you'll beg for those MVS jobs.
\_ Yes, and an asshole with a bad attitude in _any_
market will have a shorter list of jobs at a
lower salary with less opportunity for
advancement and is less likely to get a good
reference in the RW, dismal or not. The world
\_ "Asshole with a bad attitude"? You've had
a lot of personal experience here, I take
it . . .
\_ DOH! I am struck to the quick! HAHAHA!
Spare me the attempted wit. "I know you
are but what am I?" is beneath a Cal
student, any Cal student.
\_ except saarp -tom
is run by and for and is about people, not
computers.
one is the super genius techical guru you are and simply
wants a decent job to pay the rent? We can't all be the
GiantPenis BoyWonder you obviously are. Or... maybe some
people actually *prefer* NT and just want a few of the unix
tool ports but otherwise think Unix sucks? I'll be looking
for open minds like yours the next time I interview. I
merely implied it before, but since you said it, I'll
agree: you are a stupid CS pussy with zero RW clue. Happy?
\_ yes, I am a giantpenis wonderboy. and you're a nobody.
Men like me invent the technology that shapes the future.
You're a fucking nobody and you will stay a nobody for
the rest of your life because of your lack of brain power.
I AM THE COGNITIVE ELITE BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH A HIGHER
IQ. NOW GO BACK TO YER SYSADMIN JOB AND MAKE SURE THOSE
THE MACHINES ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY WHEN THE REAL ENGINEERS
NEED IT.
\_ BoyChild, engineers are dime-a-dozen cogs. Only
management and sales count, and sales only counts
when sales are good. Don't fool yourself. Boys like
you are hired by the dozen and fired by the dozen.
Given that I'm posting on the motd and I'm also not
a student, a clever boy like you could figure out I
already have an engineering/cs degree from Cal and
unlike you might know what I'm talking about. What
makes your future degree better than the one I
already earned? Perhaps the cognitive elite isn't
currently over-enrolled at Cal this semester? Can't
wait for a chance to interview a few of you and ask
some of those personality/attitude questions.
\_ Uh, I (the person who posted the "why do you work
in a job that regularly forces you to do things
you dislike" comment) _am_ already out in the real
world, thanks. And I regularly interview people.
The only difference between us seems to be that I
haven't decayed into a condescending, dour, bitter
asshole like yourself.
\_ I'm glad you have the talent, skill,
experience, and perfect personality that allows
you to choose your title, salary, and working
arrangements at the company of your choice.
I seriously doubt most here are in your unique
position. Coming straight out of school, there
is zero chance they'll start like that. Given
a choice between a smart, flexible kid who will
do the work I need done without religious lip
and a smart, religious, mouthy kid who will do
the work I need done but constantly bitches
about how >insert free *nix here< would do it
better because *nx is the answer to everything,
I'll take the smart flexible kid everytime.
When your only tool is a hammer, everything
looks like a nail. BTW, send those flexible
ones my way, you can have the mouthy little
bastards. Either way, they're all still
dime-a-dozen coming out of school. (If I pay
you to run my Apple ][e network, that's what
you'll do, your choice is to go elsewhere).
\_ Not every free Unix advocate will insult
a boss or tell a boss to switch operating
systems. I developed on VB once because
that was what I was hired to do. I was
polite and did the work and didn't bash
Microsoft horribly, but _I didn't stop
caring about it_ either. Behold, my old
boss wrote me e-mail recently about how
people keep telling him Linux is worthwhile,
and he may have to try it one of these days.
You don't have to insult everyone like
certain OpenBSD founders we know do in order
to make progress for free software. If you
can tell that all progressive groups != ISO,
you can surely see the same about "*nx"
advocacy. We will win -- slowly.
\_ who's the asshole that starts every post with, "Out in
the RW...?" yeah, we really need life lessons from you.
\_ You seem to. What's your point, if any?
\_ that your "i'm out in the RW" crap is old. go away.
\_ And that you're assuming that we all live in a "real
world" that's as broken as yours . . . |
| 1998/4/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13990 Activity:nil |
4/20 "AP (Chicago) - (Microsoft chairman Bill) Gates, the featured speaker
at the opening of the Comdex Spring Computer Show, was demonstrating
the new Windows 98 operating system set to debut in June when the
system crashed." |
| 1998/4/20-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13984 Activity:nil |
04/20 I need to burn a CD that will be compatible with the most
operating systems possible. Of particular importance are Linux,
MacOS, and NT but more than that is better. Should I use ISO 9660
filesystem or something else? --dim
\_ ISO 9660 is the way to go -wombat
\_ With Rock Ridge extensions? --dim
\_ Yes please. Standards are good things, sometimes.
\_ The good thing about standards is that there are so many
to choose from. |
| 1998/4/14 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13950 Activity:high |
4/14 What's with the login uname? MS-DOS V3.3 ? Is this joke going to
last forever?
\_ It's no joke. We've secretly replaced soda with an MS-DOS machine
(with Microsoft DOS/Connect for networking) and we were hoping no
one would notice -- but damn it, you've spoiled everything. --root
\_ MS-D0S???/? 1 CAN RUN K1NG"Z QU3ST 0N 1T!!!!1!!!
BUT H0W DU 1 S3ND TH3 P1CTURZ 2 MY SKR33N?????? H3LP!!!1!
\_ alias ver 'uname -a'
\_ some perpetual April's Fools Joke
\_ The best one so far, IMHO -muchandr
\_ The joke's still there. jon@csua attaching his name as if
he has done anything. |
| 1998/4/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13914 Activity:nil |
4/7 How Many Suckas Must Get Dissed, you PUKES?!
\_ The same as the number of geeks who think MS hasn't put
Secret Evil Anti-Pirate Code in every MS product. By the
way, the personal attack really helps make your
point, if there was one. I'm still looking.
\_ I'm going to try to say this as nicely as possible:
You stupid motherfucking dick-sucking sack of dog shit.
If you had any brains whatsoever (which in your case is
obviously WAY too much to ask for) you would know that
NT 4 is a shitload more stable than windows 95. I
don't see how a idiotic shit-for-brains person like
yourself can get off (and I mean that in the most
respectable way) on telling people that the "NT is
stable thing is a crock of shit." No, sir. YOU are
the crock of shit. I have NT4 and win95 and Linux
running on my computer and when I compared win95 and NT
I found that it took conscious effort to make NT crash
whereas win95 did it quite often. If you have a shitty
video card that doesn't like NT, get a real one. If
you use win95 'cuz you like to play games get a fucking
clue. Don't start giving people you misguided "advice"
which is really nothing more than complete bullshit and
your attempt to mask your cluelessness by telling other
people what they should be doing. Please do us all a
favor and don't start telling people what to do until
you have some semblence of an idea of what the fuck
you're talking about. Have a nice day. --Mr.NT
\_ The same dumbfucks who make mistakes on motd
are never clever enough to retort. Make sure
you make a copy of this reply, b/c it will
get erased by the same lame cowards who weren't
able to accept that the Daily Cal is a better
newspaper than UCLA's, and it was UCLA who
paid for the ad in the Daily Cal. |
| 1998/4/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13902 Activity:high |
4/5 Spring forward.
\_ how does it work? like: 1:58,1:59,3:00,3:01,etc? if so that
explains why my 2am cron job didn't run.
\_ Yes, the second at 1:59:59 PST is immediately followed by the
second at 3:00:00 PDT. You can verify that locale-aware Unix
time code believes this with date -d '2:00 today' and similar.
Daylight Saving Time is the mortal nemesis of cron.
\_ Windoze gives users a nice reminder that the system time has been
updated and please "verify" the new time is correct, because Gates
isn't sure how to calculate DST. Whereas UNIX users know that the
system will do the right thing.
\_ umm... yes. this is a very good reason for me to use UNIX
over windoze.
\_ Actually since I may be multibooting I _don't_ want the OS to
fuck with my system clock. You really want each of 95, unix
and NT to advance your clock an hour? As only a semi-related
issue, the whole daylight savings time thing is incredibly
stupid. This is no longer an agriculturally based society, so
we don't need that crap screwing things up. Although leap year
and leap seconds are somewhat annoying, at least they're rare
and more importantly, they are necessary to maintaining our
current calendar system. (Although it might be a long time
before we noticed all those leap seconds adding up) :) I say
we should scrap the whole damned thing.
\_ Actually DST is an invention of the 20th century to get
extra productivity out of urban workers! In an agricultural
society, people don't care as much about what time you say
it is as they do about when the sun actually comes up.
\_ Japan, Taiwan, and many Asian countries have already gotten
rid of this shit. This is one main reason that Win95 asks
you what region you're in, and whether you REALLY want to
forward/fall back your clock.
\_ I think every day should be shortned by about 2 minutes.
then at the end of the month, we can all get an extra hour.
This will allow us to work even harder for our employer, or
to catch up on sleep, or net surfing.
\_ I don't really care what the heck the time is on my PC's,
so when Win95 asked me to fix the time, I laughed to see it
*hours* off. I don't ask my pc to keep time, only to launch
gamez. That is, after all, all windoze machines are good for.
-ERic |
| 1998/3/31 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:13881 Activity:very high |
3/31 I should have went to CSU Hayward instead of Berkeley. This way, I can
get my bachelor of SCIENCE in computer science and get discount on my
auto-insurance. Because Berkeley gives bachelor of ART in computer
science, people (ie. insurance) tend to fuck me around more.
\_ Try EECS option C then. BTW, eventhough I have a B.S. degree,
I still pay tons of insurance(2200/year!). Insurance
rips you off no matter what degree u have.
\_ Ride bike, and try to enjoy life and be less bitter.
\_ Can't take a chick out on a date on a bike. Oh, then you must
mean motorcycle.
\_ Use a tandem. If she doesn't ride, she's not worth your
time anyway.
\_ How did a moron like you even get accepted, let alone graduate,
from Berkeley? You're right, you should have gone to CSU
Hayward. I'm amazed there are people like this at Cal. --dim
\_ CSU Hayward doesn't have the UCB CS department. If you want to go
to college "just to get a degree", go ahead and go there.
\_ Get a mail-order BS for just these occasions, then. |
| 1998/3/25-27 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13859 Activity:kinda low |
3/24 Judge orders m$ to stop calling its sabotaged piece of crap "Java."
http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/11199.html
\_ http://www.microsoftwatch.com has gone from anti-Microsoft to pro-Microsoft
in a matter of weeks. Reading the articles you can just tell that
they've ignored all anti-M$ pointers. Something is up!!!
\_ What are you ranting about? I read the only article there
and can't see your little conspiracy.
\_ Of course you can't see it. IT'S _THAT_ GOOD!!!!1!!! |
| 1998/3/19 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13837 Activity:high |
3/18 String foo = "help";
byte[] b = foo.getBytes();
ByteArrayInputStream bais = new ByteArrayInputStream(b);
ObjectInputStream ois = new ObjectInputStream(bais);
Customer customer = (Customer) ois.readObject();
bais.close();
ois.close();
FileInputStream fis = new FileInputStream("Customers.DB");
ObjectInputStream ois2 = new ObjectInputStream(fis);
/* the next line causes the error */
Hashtable Database = (Hashtable) ois2.readObject();
\_ Well, clearly this line is in error.
This JAVA code gives the following error:
Assertion failed: GET_RESOURCE_ATTR( r1 ) == RaInt64, file
/CLO/Components/SLLIC_LITE/Src/lwo/opt_driver.c, line 2514
SIGABRT 6* abort (generated by abort(3) routine)
location=7B041EB0. stackbase=7B03AF44,
stackpointer=7B03B538
test.bat: 7927 Abort
Does anyone know what the hell's going on with that error? This
doesn't happen on my PC, but happens on UNIX!!!
\_ And Sun Microsystem is sueing Microsoft because Microsoft
claims to be Java compliant. Seems to me Sun should sue
the other Unix vendor. |
| 1998/3/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:13815 Activity:very high |
3/17 Hello, I am looking for suggestions about two things:
1. what is a good CD-R to get. Price [as long as we are still in
the commercial electronics and not $10000 range] is not important,
I would like it to write fast [4x is best consumer speed?], not
break [so willing to pay for name brand using good components],
easy to use [good software ... unix and windows?], and i suppose
it woul dbe nice to have multi-write capacity.
\_ Smart @ Friendly CD-R 4006 Deluxe (SCSI)
I have it and really love it. I can even record 4x off an EIDE
HD, which almost noone recommends doing. Lots of Adaptec software
which is unparalleled. Yes, it has multi-write capabilities
(even software that treats it as a writeable disk drive)
\-is this the one that is about $600? i saw this at a
certain unnamed unhelpful southbay consumer electronics
store but had never heard of S&F ... are they actually
repuatable company? --psb
2. is there a decent book on windows for a total windows illiterate.
and i mean total. on the other hand i dont need to have general
computer concepts like the difference between files and memory
\_ You shall be crushed, your bloody, battered bones fed to
\_ psb, u shall be crushed, your bloody, battered bones fed to
explained to me. in fact ideally it would mention design issues
[like does windows9# mmap ... not looking for programming reference
but would like to be abel to analyze design of a system]. --psb
\_ PSB, why don't you fuckin' stop rambling.
\_ you shall be crushed, your bloody, battered bones fed to
just punishment for crossing the path of His Holiness,
the psb. -psb #1 Fan
by a plague beggarman. This shall be your righteous and
just punishment for being a superficial FUCKHEAD.
\_ psb shall be crushed, your bloody, battered bones fed to
\_ You shall be crushed, your bloody, battered bones fed to
wild dogs, the dogs trampled by elephants, their mashed
carcasses fed to wild pigs, the pigs shall be speared
lengthwise, left to rot in the burning sun for half a
month, whereupon their festering remains shall be burned,
the ashes dumped over the lip of a raving volcano, carried
by a plagued beggarman. This shall be your righteous and
just punishment for being opposed to the will of the psb
psb forever. -psb #1 Fan
just punishment for being opposed to the will of the antipsb
and lacking sufficient intellect or imagination to do
anything more "clever"
and lacking sufficient intellect or imagination to do
anything more "clever" than edit someone else's motd entry.
\_ Go psb -psb fan #4 |
| 1998/2/17-19 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13686 Activity:nil |
02/17 FedEx Backs Away From NCs In Favor Of Windows Machines. Big blow for
companies like Sun/Oracle/Netscape.
\_ http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19980217S0005 |
| 1998/2/14 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Industry/Startup] UID:13673 Activity:insanely high |
2/13 JUNK ABOUT NT ERASED.
You guys just don't get the big picture, and never will. Of course
people in the academic community know why Microsoft products are
inferior, but try to educate and tell the truth to the rest of the
population. They will never learn, and will never care how/why/why
not to use Microsoft. They will forever be using Microsoft products
because it "looks easy" and is cheap. The ultimate bottom line is,
yes, Microsoft sucks, but they will keep leveraging, buying, sueing,
threaten, whatever until they have everyone else using their
products. That is the destiny, and nothing can stop it. Not Sun,
not Netscape, not IBM. Not even the government or DOJ. Just accept
the fact, just accept the truth, just accept the future. As Sun Tsui
says, the war is won even before it has begun.
\_ What's that you say? Hopeless? -- Why, very well! --
But a man does not fight merely to win!
No -- no -- better to know one fights in vain! ...
No! I fight on! I fight on! I fight on!
-- Edmond Rostand, _Cyrano de Bergerac_
I am trying my personal best and volunteer substantial time to
educate others about Unix, and while I can breathe well enough
to utter criticisms of Windows for the benefit of just one more
student, I don't want to hear any of this about "destiny".
We make our _own_ destiny. -- schoen
\_ yeah, we already know why M$ sucks, so stop your bandwidth, say
somethin' intelligent and somethin we don't already know, and most
importantly, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT DAMNIT
\_ Uhm... ya. Whatever. Obviously, you're young and ignorant of the
way the world works. No one stays on top forever. No one.
\_ yeah, we already know why M$ sucks, so say somethin' intelligent
and somethin we don't already know. Most importantly,
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT DAMNIT
\_ Microsoft's biggest opponent is Microsoft itself. People are
tiring of their crappy products and support. People are opposed
to the idea of a huge corporate monolith making decisions for
them. Eventually, that will catch up to the company. It happens
to most large corporations. It becomes difficult to respond to
the desires of the consumer when a company reaches a certain
size and Microsoft, too, shall pass no matter what becomes of
its current competitors, although it may evolve into an
entirely different sort of company (shift focus). --dim
\_ No duh, they're moving to content providing business.
MSNBC, MSN, M Start, Web TV, publishing, newspaper,
propaganda, oh, just simple stuff that brain wash people.
\_ You mean they're failing to move to content providing.
Content is free. Let 'em have it. Can't support a
zillion dollar company and their stock gains on content.
They don't own content, nor can they possibly own all
the way to acquire it. 'dim' was correct when stating
that MS will just get too damned big.
\_ Sure you can create content. Check out
http://www.tomorrowneverdies.com |
| 1998/2/11 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13656 Activity:nil |
2/10 Unix/NT Sysadmin position available at Fujitsu PC Corporation.
See /csua/pub/jobs/fpc-sysadmin for details -cdaveb
\_ CDAVEB HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO THE DARK SIDE! |
| 1998/1/28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13585 Activity:high |
1/28 New job opportunities for Software Developers at a Berkeley
start up company in /csua/pub/jobs/OPC_TECH. --emin
\_ Does it in any way use Microsoft product?
\_ No this company has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft
and I seriously doubt that Microsoft would even consider
buying it. If you want an opportunity to do interesting,
challenging, and creative software development
this is a great place to work. --emin
\_ Well, that means when I look for jobs elsewhere after
a couple of years, I will not be able to find anything
cuz most of the companies want to hire Microsoft people.
UNIX is c00l and all but Microsoft is the one that pays
the rent and the bill man.
\_ Oops. UNIX must be paying my bills by mistake. -- khogan |
| 1998/1/28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13584 Activity:high |
1/28 To all the anti-Bill-Gates people.
If Microsoft is such an "evil empire", how come 75% of the jobs that
I'm offered and 75% of the jobs that I get offers from are all
Microsoft related?
\_ Uhm.... DUH! That's *exactly* the point. Someone get the CSUA
Bat. Apply until done.
\_ And how do you define "M$ related"?
\_ There are those of us who think that a little variety would be
good for creative professional competition/development.
micro$quish crushes individuality, like yours, with monolithic
size, buyouts and market leverage. This is bad.
\_ Don't explain, just get the bat. |
| 1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:13533 Activity:very high |
1/19 People I have talked to have experienced better performance
running NT server on their standalone desktop, even though
MS claims NT Workstation is optimized for such a task.
Has this been your experience, too? -agee
\_ Are you saying you really think M$'s claims have anything to do
with reality?
\_ As a workstation? No. Server sucks as a workstation in my
experience given equal hardware, etc, etc. If you can stomach
it, Win95 is tremendously faster. --embarassed to know these things
\_ Actually, I installed NT Server on all of our group's
machines, just for yuks. It's an amazing hog and
gives you no benefits besides immeasurably irritating
your stupid Winblows admin. Of course, that's more
than worth it... -John
\_ D00d! AIX is the future! -reiffin
\_ You're not supposed to *use* NT Server. You install
Server, Exchange, SQL, DNS, DHCP, user accounts, whatever,
then go away. You don't login and use it as a workstation,
fool. Don't you have anything better to do than install
the wrong OS on your group's workstations?
\_ Are you dense? I said I did it for laughs. In any
case, they're both fundamentally broken and slow
and inappropriate for techs' workstations at a unix-
oriented company. Moron. -John
oriented company. -John
\_ And it didn't bother anyone that you replaced
everyone's OS "for laughs"? What work do they do?
\_ NT Server gives more priority to background processes compared
to NT Workstation. The caching is different too.
\_ What if I configure NT Workstation to give equal priority
to foreground and background threads? Isn't this priority
configurability not NT server specific?
\_ The time slices are different. NTS uses a 120ns (ns?) time
slices while NTW uses 10,20, or 30(?) depending on how you
set the priorities. NTS spends less time doing context
switches thus, technically speaking, NTS is more efficient
than NTWS, however NTWS will appear more responsive because
of the shorter time slices and incrased foreground
priority. -NT pseudo-Guru
\_ I don't know if I should believe this so called guru,
since s/he gives the wrong unit for context switching.
ns? come on, get real.
\_ I'm not a physicist and said I wasn't sure what the
unit types were. Frankly, I don't care. The concept
is still true. Don't like the answer? Go read a
book and quote me wrong on something I didn't put a
question mark next to. I also didn't say "guru".
Perhaps this is a comprehension (also known as nit-
picker) problem on your part, not a conceptual fault
on mine? -NT p-G
\_ M$ is good at making "different" products using one or
two different configuration lines. Expect IE to be
called something else, and expect the gov to let them
go.
\_ Hey I never said the two OS's were stunningly
different. I was just explaining to the best of my
knowledge the differences as they exist. I'm aware
and readily acknowledge that the bulk of the source
is exactly the same between the two. NTS does have
some extra admin tools on the CD but that isn't OS
level stuff. -NT p-G |
| 1998/1/21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13530 Activity:nil |
1/20 Sysadmin job available at Active Software. UNIX/Windows/backup
sysadmin mostly. Webmaster experience also required. See
/csua/pub/jobs/Active. -eric |
| 1997/5/15 [Recreation/Humor, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32148 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto |
5/14 In order to improve the performance of your machine, please add the
following in your .cshrc file in all of your accounts:
ping -s http://www.microsoft.com 50000 > /dev/null &
\_ To get squished please add "ping -s <DEAD>uclink4.berkeley.edu<DEAD> 50000 >
/dev/null &" to the .cshrc in all of your accounts.
\_ And the award goes to gosha, who in a supreme display of
awe-inspiring stupidity has made us all laugh really hard:
gosha 25671 1 0 16:52:00 ? 2:29 ping -s http://www.microsoft.com 50000
gosha 16807 1 0 10:19:41 ? 0:01 ping -s http://www.microsoft.com 50000
gosha 16696 1 0 23:20:56 ? 1:42 ping -s http://www.microsoft.com 50000
gosha 25499 1 0 16:49:47 ? 2:40 ping -s http://www.microsoft.com 50000 |
| 1997/4/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32120 Activity:nil |
3/31 Can someone tell me how to get my win95 network dial-up to
auto re-dial when the line is busy? I've been trying ritual
dancing and magic incantations, but I can't seem to get it to
work. Thanks.
\_ Perhaps if you sign your name, I will tell you the insultingly
simple solution to your problem.
\_ Fuck you tom.
\_ Get KeepGoin.ZIP, a program that clicks for you. It's the only.
way in 95. Get it at <DEAD>www.windows95.com<DEAD>
\_ Easier yet, try modifying the dialing properties under the DUN
folder. I've got mine running 99 redials at 1 sec intervals.
\_ I think that the bit about "get a real OS" should remain unsaid. |
| 1997/3/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32098 Activity:nil |
3/22 Can someone tell me how to change the file association and
extension on Win95/NT? I've tried using explorer to edit file
type, etc etc, and nothing works.
\_to change the file extension (make sure that you have the file
extensions turned on (not hidden) and just click the right
mouse button on the file in explorer and "rename"
To change which program starts when you open a file:
" 1 In My Computer or Windows Explorer, click the View
menu, and then click Options.
2 Click the File Types tab.
3 In the list of file types, click the one you want
to change. The settings for that file type are
shown in the File Type Details box.
4 Click Edit.
5 In the Actions box, click Open.
6 Click Edit, and then specify the program you want
to use to open files that have this extension."
\_ from the Help file (try using it) brett
\_ That's exactly what I tried, but everything graphical icons
insists on starting PhotoShop instead of LView. I've tried
taking everything off the list, and the association still
exists. Now what?
\_ You can do the same, but instead of edit that file
type, do a remove of that file type. So, the next
time you try to open that file with that extension,
it'll prompt you for the application you want to open
with. I hope this works. - nduong
\_ Hack the registry. But this is generally not recommended
unless you have training on registry. - nduong
\_ http://www.uce.com Sell wintel box, buy real machine.
\_ That's ok. I don't want a machine with an OS
forces its company to send out 4000 pink slips. |
| 1997/3/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32097 Activity:nil |
3/22 Help! I am FAT FAT FAT, and I need to lose weight!
\_ There's this machine that can help you lose 20 pounds of that ugly
fat real quick. It's called a guillotine.
\_ Try NTFS or v2 of win95 with 32bit FAT (thinner FAT), or maybe
you could use a nice *nix file system.
\_ Exercise every day for at least 20 minutes at a moderately
high intensity, cut your fat intake to 30-50 grams a day and
stop eating when you're not hungry, not when you can't hold
anymore.
\_ ride bike.
\_ BULLSHIT! FAT IS BEAUTIFUL!!! DON'T LET THEM TELL YOU
OTHERWISE!
\_ S/he didn't ask whether or not fat was aesthetically pleasing,
s/he wanted to know how to lose weight. The advice given
was good. -- reka
\_ some guy posted "Fat people are disgusting." on alt.sex.fat |
| 1997/3/4-5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32088 Activity:high |
3/5 Can someone please tell me why Netscape 3.01 crashes so much
more on my NT 4.0 than my Win95?
\_ Insufficient RAM you have?
\_ I have 32 megs, dude. Still, NT shouldn't be crashed.
\_ Yoda, you are not. Speak like him, you should not. Weak with
the force you are.
\_ I met him in a bog on Degobah, Y-O-D-A, yooooda!
\_ It looks like a bathroom and it's tiled and green
so-so-soda... S-O-D-A SODA... -kane
\_ My windows 95 won't boot still. -gong
\_ Must be some hardware conflict that win95 doesn't like.
It's hard to write an OS to support all sorts of hardware
on your PC. The OS can be flawless but if the device
drivers are buggy, they still can crash the system.
\_ Try removing one of your hardware at a time and see if
you can load win 95.
\_ Yeah, start with the Intel processor...
\_ This may fail on a PC. But if you remove your
brain, you may still be able to survive since
you've never used your brain in the first place.
\_ intel is actually kinda cool. ms, on the other
hand, kinda sucks.
\_ NT != 95, however much MS would like to claim otherwise.
(part of Microsoft office (not supported as a whole on NT at all)
causes a nice little memory leak on NT [you'd think MS could do
better than that... <snicker>])
\_ No..i don't think MS CAN do better than that :)
\_ Netscape crashes everywhere. That is a fact of life caused by the
insanely accelerated development cycles required to keep up in the
Internet market these days. MS Windows 95 & NT crash. This is
also a fact of life, but can't be explained by anything more than
Microsoft pig-headedness & incompetence.
\_ Netscape crashes on unix machines too. Netscape just
crashes. Reload, no big deal.
\_ All these NT bashings are just crap. I use IE 3.0 on NT 4.0
and it is solid as a rock. - android
\_ OS/2 Warp 4.0! Best! You too, can be
Captain Picard. --pcjr
\_ until you hit a web site that formats your disk for you
\_ Poor fool. You got those new fangled soft, squishy, safer
kinda rocks where you come from? All these NT bashings are
based in a reality far more solid than the NT kernel. BTW,
I grabbed a copy of those IE3 security files. I was stunned
at how simple they are. Worse than formatting your drive,
maybe someone will replace part of your OS, grab your pw, etc.
Yet another dronish android sucked in by MSHype.
\_ Solution: Disable active content, disable activeX contrls
and scripts, and disable Java scripts. - android
\_ Yeah, right... http://www.cybersnot.com/iebug.html
\_ But at least MS is providing a solution to that problem
quickly - android
\_ Actually, it will probably adversely affect their
Win98 "your desktop is on the 'Web" view.
\_ Isn't Armageddon supposed to be this year?
If so, no Win98!!!
\_ Not a "solution". The "solution" is to avoid using
MS-Bugware on your system. Read the link at cybersnot
and you'll see just what a totally clueless fuck you
are. Are you on Bill's payroll or something?
\_ Might as well use lynx if you wanna diable everything.
\_ Yay lynx! May the dumb terminal crushesh thee.
\_ Disabling everything won't solve this particular
MS-SecurityDisaster anyway. |
| 1997/2/12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32064 Activity:nil |
2/12 To the person who was trying to install both NT/95:
You can create two primary partitions, hide the second one,
install Win95 (by default, it'll install itself on the first
primary partition), then afterwards, you hide it and set the
second primary partition Active/Unhide, install NT, and now,
when you need to boot just set the Active flag on either primary
partition. If you have PartitionMagic, you'll have the opportunity
to play with many different possibilities without repartitioning
your HD all over again. -kchang
\_ Boy, that's a lot of hassle. I just dedicated a different OS
to each SCSI disk and I choose my boot disk in the SCSI
adapter's BIOS. Multi-boot without any hassle at all! --dim
\_ Dude, not everyone can afford the cool SCSI drives. They
cost at least 1.5-2X as much, and that's not even counting
those expensive SCSI controllers. -kchang
\_ More importantly, why would you want to do this at all?
Multiboot between NT/95 and some unix, yeah, I can see that.
But multiboot between NT and 95 is sorta like multibooting
between 95 and 95 or linux and linux, etc. What for?
\_ Really Nice Games using Matrox Mystique -> Win95
Everything else -> WinNT
\_ why would you want to do anything in NT, if you could have
unix?
\_ What OS do you use to write your resume??? Unix???
\_ Yes. Plain ASCII, even (no *roff). --dim
\_ Yes. With FrameMaker. --mr2
\_ Yes. With latex (don't laugh :))
\_ You think an average user would to use those
editors. Microsoft stocks would not have stood as
high as it is now.
\_ You think you can try writing in english
sentences that make sense?
\_ NT has game development environment (ie DirectX), good
Word Processors and spreadsheets, variety of desktop
database software, and mail clients.
\_ you can get that crap in 95
\_ 95 is NOT crash proof. The point is to answer
about doing anything in NT.
\_ Like NT _is_ crash proof. Shyeah, right. --dim
\_ It's pretty good considering you don't
to reboot the machine for weeks.
\_ I've had to reboot several times
a day just to keep Netscape 4 working.
\_ It works fine on my machine.
\_ Only if it's sitting there doing mostly
nothing. I ran 100+ web sites on both
IIS and Purveyor using SQL Server as a
back-end and it crashed frequently. --dim
\_ I had Dos/windows, I hated it.
I had Linux, I hated it.
\_ What did you hate about it?
\_ sometimes crashed at boot or trying to search of
scsi devices and hang. Took too long to load the
GUI. No tech support.
\_ M$ is not noted for its good tech support. --dim
I had Windows 95, I hated it.
I have Windows NT 4.0, I am still using it.
\_ This says more about you than the OS. --dim
\_ So, you think most people who moved from dos->95->NT
have a problem, not the OS?
\_ No, but his NT over Linux preference says more
about him than about the operating systems. --dim
\_ To end all arguments, just look at the OS market share and
see which OS has higher shares.
\_ mcdonald's has the highest market share, therefore
they make the best burgers?
\_ "eat shit: 100 million flies can't be wrong!"
\_ Ah. So you're saying numbers are all that matter,
and we should all move to communist china, since
after all, they have the highest "market share" of
people in the world. |
| 1997/2/10 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32060 Activity:nil |
2/9 Where can I get a good and FREE multi-booter for Win95, Linux (no
sucky LILO pleez!), and an experimental partition for NT? -kchang
\_ try OSBS @ http://www.freebird.org Dunno if it supports NT,
but is real cool. -sagarwal
\_ http://www.stairway-to-heaven.org is better
\_ as long as it's not the one from Pat Boone
\_ The boot manager that comes with OS/2 is really cool. The only
problem is that you have to install it first. (No, you don't actually
need to run OS/2 to use the boot manager).
\_ What's wrong with LILO? Works fine for me.
\_ stop removing kchang insults |
| 1997/1/29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32056 Activity:nil |
1/28 Anyone knows what's PSOS?
\_ You have a context for this?
\_ leading real-time OS? -muchandr
\_ Pepsi Operating System (tm)
\_ Paleolithic Segue Operating System
\_ Point Sales Of System?
\_ PostScript Operating System!
\_ PostScript O'd Skoo'
\_ Penal Separation Oligarchic Symposium
\_ Public Sex On Soda!
\_ Partha's Self-righetous Oratory Seminar
\_ Partha, you da man!
\_ Penile Satisfication Orally Served
\_ Penis Society Of Soda
\_ Pathetically Stupid Operating System (aka Windows 95)
\_ psb + sameer orally satisfy!
\_ hey this one is pretty funny!
\_ Ok, ok we get it.... |
| 1997/1/29 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32049 Activity:nil |
1/29 I bought a new HD, 4 gig, and I'd like to move everything from my
old 1 gig to the 4 gig (4 gig = primary, 1 gig = secondary). Where
can I find a good DOS backup utility that does this? Thanks.
\_ DOS Tar's good
\_ No, it doesn't do long name (8+ char), STUPID
\_ what's wrong with copy /s d:\ c:\c_drive ? |
| 1997/1/29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32048 Activity:nil |
1/29 Thinking of switching from OS/2 to Windoze. What are
(dis)advantages of NT 4 vs. 95? Haven't used windoze since v.2.0.
Hated it then & don't know what the state of it is now. |
| 1996/11/16 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32006 Activity:nil |
11/15 Can someone please point me to a free slip server and client for
Windows 95? -dpetrou
\_ <DEAD>www.windows95.com<DEAD> -sagarwal
\_ Another godamn windoz h0zer |
| 1996/11/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/GradSchool, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:32000 Activity:nil |
11/12 Okay, I'm a dork. Where're we supposed to download MSIE to get
MS to donate $1 to the tech museum? --tabloyd
\_ MS has a horrible web site for low bandwidth connections. I
wasted several hours trying to get it, and only eventually got a
version that wouldn't install. If anyone has IE 3.0 for 3.1,
could I please get a copy? (Didn't have these problems
w/Netscape...) -cathyg
\_ Funny, I managed to download Netscape 3.01 and have it
not do everything right. Guess their implementation of
the Java Virtual Machine just won't go with i386-unknown-bsd
architectures. -- tmonroe
\_ Oh, it's buggy, but at least it installed. -cathyg
\_ I put a copy in /tmp/msie301mnt.exe,mailnews.exe,amov4ie.exe
- Gabe
\_ uh, you guys don't get it...the idea is to make MS spend
dough, not to actually use their product
\_that's why I want the URL! -- tabloyd
\_ I looked at //microsoft.com, but unless you have a
t1 and a sophisticated browser, it's not worth
your time [maybe for 95, but not for 3.1] -cathyg |
| 1996/10/28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:31960 Activity:nil |
10/27 Is there a way to read Macintosh formatted disks on a PC using
win95 or NT?
\_ http://www.bmug.org |
| 1996/10/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31950 Activity:nil |
10/17 Hi, does anyone know of a web browser that runs on Linux, and/or
a web server that runs on Win95 (pref. free, of course). Thanks.
-barn
\_ go to http:///www.netscape.com for the Linux version of Netscape
and http://www.apache.org for the Apache WWW Server.
\_ Apache runs on Linux (and other unixes) but not 95
If you want to be a web server, get a real OS on that
box - Win95 will *NEVER* be a decent web server (you
could go to NT, but you'll have to pay through the nose
for NT Server since Microsoft has f*cked-up license
restrictions against using NT Workstation as a server).
\_ Thanks for the info. I just wanted to test a server on W95, not
actually use it for anything real. -barn |
| 1996/2/12 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31813 Activity:nil |
2/10 What kind of programs are available out there to give technical
analysis of individual stock? Will there be money made if I
write a shareware version for Windows? - choice
\_ won't barra break your legs?
\_ there's several web sites that will accept a fee and
analyze stock for you
\-why do you believe in tech analysis? anyway,
take a look at valueline. i dont know if they have stuff
online. or software. it is expensive. --psb |
| 1995/1/5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31694 Activity:nil |
1/5 "College students today are introduced to the imperative of acquiring
computer skills the minute they arrive on campus, and many of them
never log off to see another side of life." --from the article
"Barbed Wired", which is one of the better
articles I have read since the E'ists "down
with the monarcy stuff. The New Rep 1/9/95
--partha
\_ is e'ist the new word for geek? - caliban
Hopefully, the article text will appear soon _________/
via http://www.enews.com/magazine/tnr (The
most current issue there is 1/2/95) - gojomo |
| 1994/6/9 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31621 Activity:nil |
6/9 Are <direct.h> <dos.h> and <io.h> all MS-DOS specific? -jminor
\_ What the fuck is MS-DOS? -dpetrou |
| 1994/5/30 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:31616 Activity:nil |
5/30 anyone, the expert of Windows 3.1. I can't download a file from
the account, Because I get a invalid path error when transfering
using terminal in accessory. But I don't think I type in wrong way.
If anyone has the solutione, please email to isamu@soda. Thanks
\_ learn english, you punk.
\_ Learn capitalization, you punk.
\_ Why? To make you stupid punks happy? I think not
\_ Clue. Get one.
\_ I sense tom's all-purpose response to a legitimate
question that he doesn't know the answer to...
\_ duh. he's a punk, that's why he does that. |
| 1994/2/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31489 Activity:nil |
2/16 Where do we send our resume for the Microsoft internship? I lost the
guy's card....
\_ /dev/null --unsigned, unclued, unoriginal, castrated
\_ Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052-6399
Recruiter's name is Spencer Amir, but he said the deadline
was last weekend... -- jonkung
\_ The Cow ad said the 20th...
Q. What machine does Windows NT run best on?
A. A 35mm slide projector.
\_ No! It has to be a broadway production! Anything less just isn't
Microslop! |
| 1994/1/27 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31460 Activity:nil |
1/26 M$ is now coercing system sellers to bundle WFW 3.11. Which
means if you buy a new machine now you can't install OS2-Win.
Which means you have to get OS2 the full version. Brilliant.
It's just fucking brilliant.
\_ I don't get it, how does WFW 3.11 being bundled with a system
stop you from installing OS2-Win? Is there something in the
software that won't let you delete M$ products or something? - norby
\_ One can always get rid of WFW 3.11 and install W 3.1 followed
by OS/2 for Windows. What's so good about WFW 3.11 anyway
other than 32 bit file access, especially for those who doesn't
NetWork? - ricky
\_ But how to find another copy of W 3.1?
\_ IBM released a version of OS/2 called OS/2 for Windows.
This version uses the Windows 3.1 code already on your
system. This way IBM doesn't have to pay royalties to
Microsoft for usng M$'s code. But with 3.11, OS/2
can't function, because it doesn't understand all of the
new 3.11 code. -rcham
\_ Hooray for M$! Death to OS2! Windows will take over the world!
\_ You don't think it was a coinicidence that once Windows was
introduced, the Soviet Union fell apart? These things just
don't "happen". Bill is God. Bill's wife is the new Virgin.
Bill's offspring will save the world. Repent! Repent! Buy
Bill's stock! Buy Bill's products! LA wasn't buying enough
of Bill's stuff, so Bill had to punish them. Remember...
Always remember the consequences of disobeying Bill.
\_ the cat?
\_ Berry?
\_ Clinton? |
| 1993/11/15 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31427 Activity:nil |
11/15 FSF Marketing has decided that it needs sexier names for its products.
From now on, emacs shall be referred to as "Nerd Perfect Pro II", and
the hurd will be called "GNU-DOS NT/2". |
| 1993/6/4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:31350 Activity:nil |
6/4 Does anyone know anything about Windows for work group, a cheap
imitation of unix file client-server wantta be? Is it possible to be
linked up through the network even though the user is in DOS, or
the network is only present inside Windows? Please mail me any info
about it. Greatly appreciated. -hankshie
- Nope. W4WG's network only runs within Windo Really lame.
A popular solution is to run Powerlan in conjunction with
it. |
| 5/16 |