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| 2008/4/7-12 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:49681 Activity:nil |
4/7 What does this mean and how do I decode it?
Na "Napvrag" Ncevy Sbby'f cenax ba bhe PRB?
\_ Don't they teach rot 13 in schools these days?
\_ copy-n-paste it into: cat | rot13
\_ 'An "Ancient" April Fool's prank on our CEO?'
\_ Hope I'm not breakign the DMCA here -- rot13 in tr:
\_ Hope I'm not breaking the DMCA here -- rot13 in tr:
tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M |
| 2007/9/24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:48165 Activity:nil |
9/24 has anyone gotten php working on apache via fastcgi? I have to
set this up as a test environment for deploying a site i've
been working on and cant get it working. any good docs out
there? I've found several but none seem to work for me. thx |
| 2007/9/23-24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:48152 Activity:kinda low |
9/23 I have an Apache question:
If I have a directory which allows both CGI handler and Perl
handler (mod_perl) how can I tell which is being invoked by the
web server? The scripts are being executed, but I have no idea if
mod_perl is running correctly or if the CGI Handler is just
picking them up and running them. How can I tell?
\_ If you like wasteful suburban living, chances are you don't
need to know if they're running. They're all magically taken
care of by other tax payers, like freeways and support systems
for your big suburban mansion.
\_ http://modperlbook.org/html/3-10-How-Can-I-Tell-if-mod_perl-Is-Running.html
\_ http://urltea.com/1khw (modperlbook.org)
Also you're supposed to get a 50X performance difference so try out
a bunch of your own DoS clients and see the latency or something.
\_ http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=377648
Check the http header! Look for:
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:10:54 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) mod_perl/1.99_13 Perl/v5.8.0 PHP/4.3.5 <=== !!!
...
\_ I do not think this is valid for RHEL, which loads mod_perl
as a .so. Certainly my server does not say this and yet it
certainly does not complain when it loads the module. RHEL
installs apache as an RPM and mod_perl as another RPM, so I
don't think the apache ID string reflects reality. My
question is not really "Is mod_perl installed?". I am sure
it is. The question is "How do I know that my configuration
is working the way I want it to, with mod_perl handling the
.pl scripts instead of .cgi?" |
| 2007/9/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:47984 Activity:nil |
9/10 Hm, is cgi still diabled?
\_ Conservatives do not use iPhones. |
| 2007/6/28-7/2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:47110 Activity:low |
6/28 People say good things about servlets-- shared connection pool,
shared resources, not having to fork new proc, not having to
interpret, etc. However, the chart below says otherwise. Is
this consistent with what you guys have experienced? It appears
that Servlet is the big loser here:
http://www.dmst.aueb.gr/dds/pubs/conf/2002-SANE-DynCont/html/dyncont.html
\_ Well, "servlets" is a pretty big category. Tomcat is pretty sucky
yes (it's 100% java, what do you expect?) but there are other
servlet engines out there. Also from looking that their
methedology, it doesn't look like they increased the number of
concurrent worker threads for tomcat. My memory is tomcat is
set to use some piddling number of threads in the default
configuration, which would totally make those results make sense.
\_ Yeah, tomcat is the reference implementation and is not
taken seriously by businesses that have clue.
\_ What do businesses that have a clue use? Jetty seems even
worse than tomcat. Resin has worked well for me in the
past. How about you?
\_ Resin works well and is inexpensive.
\_ This paper is from 2002. I would hesitate to apply its
conclusions today. |
| 2007/6/20-24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:47021 Activity:nil |
6/20 I need a php page that lists a bunch of files in a directory
for easy downloading. no i can't alter my apache options
and accomplish it that way. any suggestion?
\_ write maybe 10 lines of PHP?
\_ What a jerk!
\_ I was hoping someone had written it already |
| 2007/4/16-19 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:46323 Activity:nil |
4/16 Hoping to get a recommendation for a friend ...
"I'm looking into setting up a server for some static web pages, a
wiki, a Subversion server, and possibly some other stuff (e.g.
BugZilla). Can you recommend a hosting service? I think I need shell
access, PHP, MySql, and Apache. The bandwidth and storage
requirements will be modest, so a modest price would be nice."
\_ Set up a $200 box on a friend's cable/dsl line. |
| 2007/3/4-7 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:45870 Activity:nil |
3/4 I've been out of the CSUA loop for a while. Is CGI no longer
allowed/working?
\_ That's right. It's takes too much unix fu to set it up and
we just can't handle it. |
| 2006/10/26-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:44992 Activity:nil |
10/26 Sudoku Rubix Cube:
http://toys.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00112
\_ It doesn't seem very sudoku-like. All the faces just have
1-9 on them, all in order, which makes it equivalent to a
normal Rubik's cube (aside from orienting the center
squares).
\_ I saw some with white background in Walgreen's. |
| 2006/10/18-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:44852 Activity:low |
10/17 has anyone tried to use Soda as a Calendar Server? Does it
requires more than just mod_webDAV?
\_ I am playing with this right now (trying to get iCal to synch
to something..anything.) From what it looks like you need
something that actually supports DAV, like PHPGroupWare (not
so sure on that one) or Horde/IMP. I'd be interested in what
you come up with though. -John
\_ most of the stuff requires php. Can on do this on a
CGI/php system instead of straight-php? thinking of doing this
on ocf
\_ Yeah I'm sure you could, but you'd probably have to write
it yourself. PHPGroupware and HORDE are the only freebies
I've found that seem to do it, and I'm having a bitch of a
time getting HORDE to play nice (you may not, I have PHP
issues with PEAR and other apps.) -John
\_ how about webcalendar?
\_ No clue--if you get it working, let me know :-) If you
mail me @zog.net, I will be working on the HORDE thing
this week and will be glad to share what I find. -John |
| 2006/9/8-12 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:44328 Activity:nil |
9/9 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_mo/people_brad_pitt "Angie and I will consider tying the knot when everyone else in the country who wants to be married is legally able," Go Brad! I and my sister will forever be grateful. \_ "My sister and I"... didn't you learn anything in school? \_ I am a self-centered redneck. \_ I was not aware of any rule stronger than custom for saying "my sister and I" rather than "I and my sister". Given the symmetry of the "and" idea, it would not seem to matter grammatically or syntactically. I would have classified his phrase as uncommon but not incorrect. \_ Strunk & White. "XYZ and I" is correct. "I and XYZ" is incorrect. It hurts my ears to read "I and XYZ". \_ how about "myself and XYZ..." does it hurt your year equally as much? \_ "myself" is obviously incorrect in that context. -tom \- The "-self" pronouns are generally REFLEXIVE pronouns. These are used when the object "loops" back to the subject. For example, one would write "The Asp touched Brain@soda" one would write "The Asp touched brain@soda" or "The Asp touched him." But this has a different meaning from "The Asp touched himself." There is another use for -self which are called INTENSIVE pronouns which are a bit harder to explain. It's more a case of emphasis on your person ... like adding "personally". For example: "The Asp, himself, touched brain@soda." or "My sister, herself, will be forever grateful." = "My sister will personally be very grateful." Re: ordering of "I and x" vs "x and I" ... I think this is generally consdered "more polite" rather than be explained in terms of linguistic principles and grammar. So in some other languages, "I and x" may be just fine ... but of course the I vs me distinction would still exist [I'm inclinded to say the Bengali eqivalent of "I and X" is ok, but maybe somebody else can chime in about other langauges.] |
| 2006/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:44272 Activity:nil |
9/4 php/oracle part-time student job opening(s). -jones
details: /csua/pub/jobs/ucb_boalt_student_webapp_developer |
| 2006/8/14-16 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43990 Activity:nil |
8/14 Anyone know if there's a FreeBSD equivalent to Linux binfmt-misc?
\_ Pretty sure not. OOC, why do you want it?
\_ Just setup apache with suexec and fcgid. wanted userdir
php modules to start in suexec w/o having to copy php binary
to each user's public_html. For now, will just create an
entry in httpd.conf for each user and have a wrapper script
copied to the public_html. -op |
| 2006/7/30-8/2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Security] UID:43838 Activity:low |
7/28 Anyone have more info on the breakins on a bunch of Cal sites?
http://www.csua.org/u/gkg -John
\_ Yes.
http://ls.berkeley.edu/lscr/news/2006-07-25-security-incident
(The defacements were mostly one multi-homed server). -tom
\_ Most kernel problems require local access to exploit.
so, if not a user account then some other insecure service
that can be used as a starting point. Is this the case here?
Do you know/mind_telling_us the details? -crebbs
Do you mind telling us the details? -crebbs
\_ The machine is a web hosting server for L&S departments,
where departments can install their own PHP code. There
was a security hole in user-installed PHP code that got
the hackers shell access, and they used a 0-day RedHat
kernel priv escalation bug (SYS_PRCTL) to get root.
It is worth noting that the bad PHP code was hand-written,
not some package like phpBB with security holes which you can
search the net for; the initial compromise seemed to have
a higher degree of sophistication than is usually found
in script kiddies. -tom
\_ I doubt the hackers found the PHP hole the same day the
Redhat bug came out. I'd bet a buck they had non-root
shell access on the machine for a long time. I also
suspect they had root for a while too. Or there was more
than 1 set of hackers. Why would sophisticated hackers
waste a quality attack on a web page defacement? I'd bet
another buck they still have access to that and several
other machines.
\_ I can pretty closely track their root access; they
did have it for over a week before it was discovered.
I am pretty certain that they no longer have root
access. I agree that there are likely remaining
apache-level holes on the machine; it's an
occupational hazard of an open PHP hosting environment.
When is PHP going to implement taint mode, anyway?
-tom
\_ The only way to be absolutely sure is to rebuild the
box. You could do a bit by bit comparison from a CD
on all the binaries but yech.
\_ Yes, I've read "Reflections on Trusting Trust."
\_ Yes, I've read "eflections on the Revolution in
France"
-tom
\_ Yes, I've read "Reflections on the Revolution in
France" -tom |
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| 2006/6/23-28 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43481 Activity:nil |
6/23 apache back on and PHP seems to be working once more (so the main page
works too). Security modules have been added, so if they interfere with
things, mail root. Hopefully they won't though. Thanks for your patience
and understanding --michener |
| 2006/6/17-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43423 Activity:nil |
6/17 dbushong and php xml gurus, thanks so much for your help! I don't
know what I'd do without you guys. Google and http://php.net are clearly
_insuperior_ than the motd. Anyways I have just a few more question.
What's the proper way to embed text and binaries into XML? Should
I simply call htmlspecialchars() on each item or just HEX it? Second
question is, if I let users do "SELECT *" and want to return as
XML how do I check the mySQL type for each field(column) name? I
tried using mysql_field_type(...) but when it sees a TEXT field, it
returns it as a BLOB, wtf?
\_ "insuperior than"?
\_ Putting binary data in XML sucks. You'll have to basically &#NNN;
every out-of-charset byte. Probably best to just base64_encode() it
and throw that into the entity. TEXT columns are BLOB columns, they
just are searched differently, essentially (case insensitive, respect
charset, yadda). I don't know the PHP way to do introspection on
your table, offhand, but you could always parse the result of
DESC table or SHOW CREATE TABLE table. --dbushong |
| 2006/6/14-18 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43394 Activity:nil |
6/14 Need php assistance. Let's say I have the following XML:
<xml><hello><Hello></hello></xml>
Then I parse it as follows:
$xml_parser=xml_parser_create();
xml_set_character_data_handler($xml_parser, "my_function");
My problem is my handler function "my_function" will parse it as
<, then Hello, then > separately instead of one line! How do I make
the XML parser parse the <hello> content just once? Thanks.
\_ Don't forget it's > and < not > and <
I'd recommend using the domxml functions:
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.domxml-open-mem.php
$x = domxml_open_mem('<xml><hello><Hello></hello></xml>');
$d = $x->document_element();
$hs = $x->get_elements_by_tagname('hello'); $h = $hs[0];
$hs = $x->getElementsByTagName('hello'); $h = $hs[0]; //stupid php
$hs = $x->get_elements_by_tag_name('hello'); $h = $hs[0];
$h->get_content(); // == "<Hello>"
--dbushong
\_ How do I access deeper levels? Repeated
$x->get_element_by_tagname('aa')->get_element_by_tagname->('bb')
->... doesn't seem to work
--dbushong
\_ note that it's get_element*s*_by_tagname. it returns an
array. note the $h = $hs[0] above. PHP sucks and you can't
do $obj->method()[0]->method()[0], etc. so you have to keep
assigning to variables. I actually made a function at one
point to make this a little easier:
function first($arr) { return $arr[0]; } so then you can say:
$h = first($x->get_elements_by_tagname('hello'));
If you want to access a specific deep thing, consider using the
xpath functions that API provides. --dbushong |
| 2006/6/13-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43374 Activity:nil |
6/13 In PHP what is the Perl equivalent of
map {$_="HEY $_ HO";} @array; ? Thanks so much!!!
\_ foreach ($array as $i => $val)
$array[$i] = "HEY $val HO";
--dbushong |
| 2006/5/30-6/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43233 Activity:nil |
5/30 Looking for a UNIX equivalent of "file <file>" in PHP. I'd like
PHP to determine what type of file it is looking at without
having to call system or exec("file $file"...). Please help...
\_ Try the Fileinfo PECL extension: http://pecl.php.net/package/Fileinfo |
| 2006/5/18-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:43098 Activity:nil |
5/18 I'm working with a developer who's used to C++/Java development
environments that show you all the object relationships,
inheritance, where functions are defined, where functions are
used, etc. We have a huge, painful application written in
object oriented PHP that he's trying to figure out. Do you
guys know of and/or have you used any editors for PHP that have
the kind of object oriented awareness like IntelliJ or Eclipse?
He's really stuck in the high-level IDE way of working and I
need him to figure this code out much quicker than his
current pace. Thanks!
\_ There are PHP IDEs out there but I couldn't make any reccomendations
Some people are working on a PHP add-on for Eclipse, but it's not
ready for use yet.
Since you have a huge, painful OO PHP application, may I ask why you
haven't moved to an IDE? I realize there's a bit of pride in saying
VI is your IDE, but a real IDE can give big productivity gains
even if you already know the project like the back of your hand.
\_ You're preaching to the choir, trust me! The group I work for is
very security-conscious and I'm not allowed to install any other
software, like a PHP IDE. I've done most of my development using
Java IDE's like IntelliJ, so I know how powerful and useful they
are. The PHP application in question is something that was built
long ago by a CS student, and is undocumented, other than a feature
spec. I'm in charge of helping another group rewrite the
application, from the spec, but using the existing PHP code as a
secondary reference. Really we should only be using the spec and
not the code, but it is what it is unfortunately. |
| 2006/5/8-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42975 Activity:low |
5/8 I noticed the posting about about CGI being enabled again, but
my CGI files don't seem to work. Has the setup changed in some
way, are others also still having problems? Thanks
\_ CGI scripts don't seem to be working for me either. --jameslin
\_ They were enabled, but due to a misconfiguration, i.e. choice of
user/group for CSUA home page, someone used a random hoser's badly
written cgi to deface the CSUA web page. Thus, they were disabled.
-dans
\_ ouch! thanks for the info. So is CGI not going to be available
any more, then? Should we be using PHP or something else instead?
\_ I'm not on soda root, I'm just filling in folks on current
history. As tom indicates, PHP suffers from similar
problems. My understanding is that they are working on it,
but, being students, have lots of other obligations that
supercede making improvements to our little playground. -dans
\_ The solution to that is to do a find and fix files owned by
nobody/www, not disable CGI. You can do the same thing w/ PHP!
\_ Yes, and now the web server is running as "nobody", which I
think is not ideal practice ("nobody" is used by too many
things; the web server user should be unique to the web
server), but should remove the concern about CGIs (which
are no more problematic than PHP). -tom
\_ Ed claims he just enabled CGI's. -dans
\_ Okay, now I'm getting "Premature end of script headers" errors,
but these scripts worked fine on the old FreeBSD iteration of
soda. I'm basically just doing:
#!/bin/sh
echo "Content-type: text/html"
echo ""
echo "<html><body><p>blah</p></body></html>"
Also, are the permissions on the apache logs going to be changed?
It's sometimes useful to be able to read the error log to figure
out what's failing.
\_ It's really hard to say without seeing your script. Maybe
your path to echo is not set properly? I'm not root, and as
far as I know, root doesn't read the motd (at least not as a
source of the more things to do). Why don't you try mailing
root? -dans
\_ Perl cgi is working fine. Most likely, path is not set
properly.
\_ No, it's not a path problem. The problem went away when
I made the script world-readable instead of just
world-executable. Why should that matter?
\_ because the web server can't read the script if it's
not readable. duh. -tom
\_ You're begging the question. Why does the web server
need to read it? It doesn't need to read it to
execute it, and it did it fine in the previous
incarnation of soda, so I'm still curious what the
rationale is. Does the web server do some analysis
of the script beforehand to see if it does unsafe
things?
\_ It's a *script*. You need to be able to read
a script to execute it; how else will the web
server see #!/bin/sh? -tom
\_ not only that, scripts are INTERPRETED. You
can't read shit out of them unless they're
read.
\_ Yes, that makes total sense. I'm an idiot.
I guess I was misled by it working before, but
I suppose that's because soda used to use
suexec?
\_ yes, probably suexec was su'ing to the
user before it tried to read the script,
therefore it was using the user permissions
instead of the world permissions. -tom |
| 2006/5/3-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42906 Activity:nil |
5/2 Running into a weird php problem. When I do the following I get
both "1" and "2":
print "1";
require_once('./print_something.php');
print "2";
However, when I replace require_once with require (because I
want to print something multiple times), I never get "2", ever.
The control flow is never returned to me. Why is that?
\_ Syntax error or call to exit() or die() in print_something.php?
(OK, not syntax error if it makes it through the first time....)
\_ At that point in the file had print_something.php been already
required? It looks like print_somthing.php can't handle being
loaded twice. It isn't idempotent. |
| 2006/4/28-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42858 Activity:nil |
4/27 What's up with the CSUA homepage? What's that quote?
I don't get it.
\- I assume we got rooted again. OMG, hahah. I give up - linxu
\_ You're probably not rooted, but you made the mistake of
having the web heirarchy owned by the UID that the web
server is running under. Therefore, any hole in any installed
CGI or PHP can re-write pages, and probably execute arbitrary
code as the web server user. -tom
\- Soooo re-enabling cgi-bin and being dumb was the cause.
I still give up though. Ah, well...-linxu
\_ suexec or cgiwrap or the likes is a good idea too.
\_ find . -user www -exec chown not-www {} \;
would be a good start. -tom |
| 2006/4/11-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42734 Activity:nil |
4/11 Does anyone know why Soda returns the following on PHP
even though it is in fact running PHP5.xxx?
"Fatal error: Call to undefined function preg_replace()"
\_ Version of PHP has nothing to do w/ it. The PCRE module
needs to be installed and loaded for preg_replace() to work.
--dbushong |
| 2006/4/5-7 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42686 Activity:nil |
4/5 Desperately looking for a new co-lo site that gives you cgi, php,
and unlimited email forwarding (you provide your own domain name).
Cheap and reliable. SSH/shell is a must.
\_ I think you mean (possibly shared) virtual hosting, not colo. I
know a number of people who are happy with Dreamhost and TextDrive.
-dans |
| 2006/4/4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42662 Activity:kinda low |
4/4 Help PHP MySQL experts! I installed PHP5 and Pear and tried
/usr/bin/php mytest.php. It works, except it doesn't know where
to find mysql_connect(...). How do you tell the command line
how to invoke mysql commands? Thanks.
\_ I'm the op and I did install mysql and it works under apache2. I
figured out my problem. There are two files,
/etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini.
Pear (command line php) uses /etc/php5/cli/php.ini, in which
I need to uncomment "extension=mysql.so" the same way I did it
for /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini. Thanks for your help Dave!
By the way I don't this problem when I call the same PHP via HTTP.
\_ PEAR is just a set of written-in-PHP classes and modules; it doesn't
provide any library functionality. You need to install the mysql
extension, which ships w/ PHP. In your UNIX it may ship as a
separate package. --dbushong |
| 2006/3/24-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:42409 Activity:nil |
3/24 PHP masters, help. In Perl I used to be able to do the followings:
($var1,$var2,@rest)=@list_of_variables;
@partial_list=@complete_list[5..10];
Things of that nature. But in PHP I can't find this type of
syntactic sugar anywhere on the manpage to do the shortcut so I
end up doing clumsy things like
$var1=$list_of_variables[0];
...
Help :(
\_ list($var1, $var2, $var3) = $list_of_variables;
$partial_list = array_slice($complete_list, 5, 6);
--dbushong
\_ Jesus Bushong Christ. You are my savior. Where and how did you
learn your PHP? Thanks so much.
\_ http://www.us2.php.net
Lots of typing alt-s (jumps you to the function search box
at the top) and guessing function names, then looking through
the list of matches and the list of functions in the same
package that shows up on the left nav when you're looking
at a given function def |
| 2006/2/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41887 Activity:nil |
2/16 In PHP, If I loop $result=mysql_query("...SQL here..."); with
a lot of results, while reusing the variable
$result without ever using mysql_free_result($result),
would that make the memory space blow up? Like:
while (1) {
$result=mysql_query("...SQL HERE...");
... use the results in $result ...
// mysql_free_result($result); commented out. Mem blow?
}
\_ Yes. As per the manual, the memory is freed at the end of the
page request.
\_ Consider using Pear DB instead of the mysql functions directly.
It adds a lot of handy shortcut functions, helps abstract your
code away from being mysql-specific, and offers an "autofree"
option. --dbushong |
| 2006/1/27-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41573 Activity:nil |
1/27 I've enabled suexec and ExecCGI in my apache2. I created a simple
CGI that when `whoami` is executed, claims as me instead of
www-data|http. Great. However, when I tried the same thing in
php, it no longer executes as me. Why is that?
\_ mod_php 'executed' stuff is run as the webserver uid
\_ You'd have to run PHP under CGI to get this to work, and then it
would be as slow as any other CGI stuff. You can run it under
FastCGI, but then you'd have to have one FastCGI setup per user,
as I understand it. |
| 2006/1/26-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41548 Activity:nil |
1/26 In PHP how do you do a regular http get? I'd like to avoid
using system("wget ...") mechanism. Thanks.
\_ $html = file_get_contents('<DEAD>...');<DEAD> --dbushong
For more details, read:
http://php.net/manual/en/ref.filesystem.php#ini.allow-url-fopen
http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.remote-files.php |
| 2006/1/19-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41436 Activity:moderate |
1/19 How do I configure apache so that all the files in certain
directories are executed as PHP without the ugly .php extension?
\_ Turn on MultiViews; you can leave the files with the .php
extension, but just access them without using the extension. -tom
\_ Oh goodie, someone talking about MultiViews. Are there any
potential problems with turning them on I should be aware of?
- !op
\_ I suppose it makes it marginally easier for someone to
guess one of your URLs. There is some potential confusion
if you have two files with the same base name in the
same directory. But I don't think there are significant
issues. Our site has been that way for several months:
http://ls.berkeley.edu/lscr. -tom
\_ MultiViews are not the rigut solution for that. They use content
negotiation, IIRC and that causes problems with validation and
old browsers. I'd recommend using URL rewriting. in your
.htaccess put something like:
Options -MultiViews
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}%{REQUEST_URI}.php -f
RewriteRule .* %{REQUEST_URI}.php
\_ How does MultiViews cause problems with validation or
old browsers? It's transparent to the client unless
the client asks for something specific in content
negotiation. -tom
\_ I thought it used to. Apparently I was wrong.
By the way http://ls.berkeley.edu/lscr does not
pass validation at http://validator.w3.org
\_ It validates in HTML Tidy. I'll look at the
issues http://w3.org brings up. -tom
\_ Update for those who care: It looks like HTML
Tidy only validates against HTML 1.0 Transitional,
even if the DOCTYPE is HTML 1.1 Strict.
The 1.1 Strict warnings include stuff for
backwards compatibility with not-very-old
browsers (IE 5.5), so we may look at falling
back to 1.0 Transitional. -tom
\_ Do you mean XHTML rather than HTML?
also there is no "XHTML 1.1 Strict."
just XHTML 1.1 fwiw.
\_ Yes, I mean XTHML. -tom
\_ Do your files have an extension now? If it's, e.g. ".html", you
could just toss this into your .htaccess:
AddType application/x-httpd-php .html
--dbushong |
| 2006/1/17-18 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41403 Activity:low |
1/17 CGI or PHP, which one is better?
\_ PHP.
\_ CGI is actually the method by which pretty much all dynamic web
applications function. If you mean "CGI scripts", then that doesn't
really say anything about what language/system you're using. Perl?
/bin/sh? C?
\_ Uhm, no. That was ten years ago. PHP is usually built into the
webserver, so you don't need CGI anymore. Use PHP.
\_ What do you mean "build into the webserver"? You mean mod_php
like mod_perl?
\_ Exactly, vs. using mod_CGI.
\_ PHP is a language. It can be loaded as a module
into the web server, or not. Same with perl. -tom
\_ need is subjective. If you trust everyone and every app they
install, yes, you don't need cgi.
\_ What? You think CGI is inherently more safe than something
that is a module to apache? On what basis? CGI is only as
safe as what you allow people to hook into.
\_ More proof above that most motd posters don't have real jobs. |
| 2006/1/15-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:41379 Activity:nil |
1/15 Sorry, totally off topic from anything political or bike related:
I want to run a small message board+mailing list. Or maybe not
mailist list. Not sure if that's a requirement. Anyway, it will
only be used by a dozen people, I intend to at least use a .htaccess
file, I don't want it in any search engines, etc. I'd like it to
be easy to setup and maintain but I'm willing to do a nightmare setup
if I don't have to do much later. Anything else it does is a plus.
I have my own hardware, net, domain name, NS, MX, etc. Any
suggestions appreciated. Oh yeah, it should run on *nix, in case that
wasn't clear. Thanks!
\_ mailman?
\_ <yourfavorite swiss cheese CGI/PHP bulletin board> + mailman? |
| 2005/11/12-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:40555 Activity:nil |
11/11 Hey MOTD, I'm looking for a good webhosting service. A coworker has
recommended http://dreamhost.com. Does anybody have any first hand experience
with that provider? Does anyone have any suggestions, warnings or
general advice? Ideally I'm looking for a place with a unix shell,
php, perl, and possibly mysql & cron -- but it doesn't have to have
heavyweight bandwidth, etc. TIA. -mice
\_ It may be more money & work than you wanted, but I've had good
luck w/ http://johncompanies.com. You get root on a jailed system: FreeBSD
w/ ports tree available or some Linux distro w/ some pkg system.
So you can run any sort of mail/web/anything server you want.
Very responsive support. But it's like $30 - $70/month. --dbushong
\_ Is that how much you pay for http://csua.org?
\_ No, currently I just run it off my home DSL. I'm thinking
about getting either a colo'ed box or something like this
one of these days just to have the option to scale a web app
to higher bandwidth on short notice should I ever actually
manage to market anything successfully (e.g.
http://floatingsheep.com/wishlist ), but for now it's not
quite worth the expense. --dbushong
\_ I have friends who use dreamhost (and one of them gave me a login).
AFAICT it seems to be pretty good (unix shell, perl, php, mysql,
and I assume cron). If I had to pay for hosting myself, I'd
probably go with them. --jameslin |
| 2005/11/9-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:40509 Activity:nil |
11/9 Hot buns! (Barely save for work.)
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/051108/ids_photos_en/r1836230989.jpg
"The event was organised to entertain the children by a member of a
local charity ..." What kind of idea is it to entertain children by
having hot models flash their bare bottom?
\_ Different culture, man. Personally, I don't think nudity is
inherently harmful or unhealthy. That's an american puritanical
attitude (OMG! A Breast! For 2 seconds! Think of the CHILDRENNN!).
\_ Correct. Topless beaches not a big deal in non-puritannical
societies. Also, thong bikinis not an issue.
\_ Not even for children?
\_ Will somebody please think of them?
\_ Thong bikinis better for adults with actual goodies
to show off.
\_ Umm.. this kids appear to be 12 and up, and many are on drugs.
\_ It would have entertained me at age 12.
\_ http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=gossip&MsgID=9847
More hot buns for my soda brothers.
\_ Definitely a nice butt. |
| 2005/9/24-26 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:39854 Activity:nil |
9/24 Any recommendations for extracting text from a WPS file?
Apparently it was made with MS Works. OpenOffice can't open it
\_ tr -d "\000-\010\016-\037\177-\377" < test.wps |
| 2005/9/14-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:39682 Activity:nil |
9/14 Oh man. Can someone please explain to me why PHP isn't the spawn of
the devil?
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.variable.php
\_ It's the spawn of Perl, isn't that good enough? |
| 2005/9/7-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:39555 Activity:nil |
9/7 MOTD boob-man, I need more pictures!
\_ Here is the biggest boob in America:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:George-W-Bush.jpeg
\_ http://images.google.com/images?q=boobs&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
moron.
\_ No no no, the true boob man only posts community webshots
links. Long live motd boob-man! --boob man #1 fan
\_ just look on http://bustywebshots.blogspot.com
\_ http://ame78.com/live.php |
| 2005/8/21-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:39207 Activity:kinda low |
8/20 Someone sent me the following: http://www.ame78.com/live.php Now I REALLY want to learn how to read Chinese characters. How do I get started? I'm not in school by the way. \_ "Fun with Chinese Characters" is a great book for learning what Chinese characters are all about. Great pictures, lots of explanations, and the etymologies make it much easier to start memorizing characters than if you plunge in to some textbook from scratch. Amazon has it. \_ http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en \_ Some of those are Japanese models. \_ Somewhat NSFW \_ Huh? What kind of site is this? I didn't investigate as I am at work, but I didn't see anything that would make me want to study chinese characters. Maybe speak chinese? |
| 2005/7/15-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:38651 Activity:nil |
7/14 was ein gutes zu verwendendes Paket (Perl) einfache Linien zu zeichnen
circles in GIF oder in JPG? Ich möchte etwas tun, das zeichnet
lines für ein cgi oder ein PHP, Dank.
\_ ImageMagik?
\_ GD?
\_ GD, aber es werden (durch Rückstellung) tun png. (das gerade
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.image.php -- dbushong |
| 2005/7/14-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:38620 Activity:nil |
7/14 What is a good package to use (Perl) to draw simple lines and
circles in GIF or JPG? I'd like to do something that draws
lines for a CGI or PHP, thanks.
\_ ImageMagik?
\_ GD?
\_ GD, but it'll (by default) do PNG. (Which is just as good).
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ref.image.php --dbushong
\_ Uh, ok. So I'm trying to install GD.pm, which requires
gd (c files) to be compiles, which requires libpng, which
requires zlib. I keep going down the dependency list and
keep hacking, isn't there an easier way? BTW I don't have
root on the machine so RPM whatever is out of the question. |
| 2005/4/29-5/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:37414 Activity:nil |
4/29 Has anyone here used Propel for php persistence? Thumbs up/down? |
| 2005/4/12-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:37160 Activity:nil |
4/12 I know someone that's looking for a contract programmer in the New
York area. They want someone fluent in PHP and database development
to customize and extend one or more content management systems.
You'll also need to be able to easily go back and forth between
geekspeak and english. email me if interested, and I'll put you in
touch with the appropriate people. -dans
\_ Sodomize? |
| 2005/3/20-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:36775 Activity:nil |
3/20 I know register globals in PHP are bad, but is there some lazy
programmer advantage to them?
\_ They let you be lazy. But it's really not worth it. Just use
something like my args() function:
http://bushong.net/dave/sw/files/args.php.txt
So just at the top of a script you say:
args('foo', 'bar[]', 'baz!');
And now you've got a string $foo, array $bar, and required
string $baz out of a query string like ?foo=42&bar[]=69&baz=18
--dbushong |
| 2005/2/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:36208 Activity:nil |
2/16 Does anyone have a useful css-mode.el or php-mode.el file that
they'd be willing to share? Thanks. |
| 2005/1/21-24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:35845 Activity:nil 50%like:34159 |
1/21 Can someone recommend a good low-priced place to provide web
hosting?
\_ Sitelutions is a buck a month for their basic setup, and I've had
no hassles.
\_ Thanks. I just checked them out, but they don't allow
PHP in that basic plan.
\_ I've heard good things about hostrocket but have never used them.
\_ I know people who've had good experiences with http://jiffynet.net. 100M
of space for $20/year. PHP, MySQL, shell, email. I haven't used
them myself. -gm |
| 2005/1/19-3/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:35793 Activity:nil 66%like:12725 |
1/19 PHP upgraded. Bugs to root. |
| 2005/1/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:35734 Activity:high |
1/15 What's the easiest/best thing to use to quickly create small GUI
tools/apps for Windows? (cross-platform ok too) Like the equivalent
of a perl script with a Windows GUI. Only for myself right now but
I need to decide what to invest my time learning. So it might as well
be cross platform if there's no big downside. I have hardly any
experience with GUIs. Thanks.
\_ I have the same question but maybe not for a perl script, also
the GUI can be as simple as possible.
\_ perl/tk is decent, though you might want to look into VB if you
want to interact with the os. I'd advise staying away from
Java at all costs. --darin
\_ ya, sounds like VB is what the op is looking for.
\_ Is VB cross platform?
\_ and free? :( -op
\_ Performance aside, why no Java?
\_ http://wxperl.sourceforge.net
There's also APIs into wxwindows for Python and other languages.
I think it's what the original windows version of BitTorrent is
written in. --dbushong
\_ Ok I started playing with wxruby so I'll see how that goes, even
though it's beta. found at http://wxruby.sourceforge.net. |
| 2004/12/17-19 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:35345 Activity:nil |
12/17 Has anybody here upgraded to PHP 5.0.3? I'm getting started with
XML and the SimpleXML extension looks great. Wondering if it's
time to upgrade. http://php.net says PHP 5 is experimental.
Any idea how stable/unstable that would be? |
| 2004/12/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:35336 Activity:nil |
12/16 I've had Apache 1.3.27 installed for several months now. All of a
sudden, as of two days ago, we're getting random "forbidden" pages
throughout our site, including our webmail program and front page.
httpd.conf hasn't been touched in over a month. Any ideas?
\_ p0wn3d!
\_ It is fairly likely that your installation has been broken into.
Why did you install 1.3.27 several months ago? Current release
is 1.3.33. But the most likely problem is with something like
PHPBB or PHPwebsite; we're seeing many exploits in PHP systems
on campus right now. -tom |
| 2004/11/22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Finance/Investment] UID:35006 Activity:low |
11/21 Has anyone tried opening a bank account in say, Canada or
Switzerland? How's the interest rate there and how accessible
are they online? The second question is, is there a FREE site
that is like <DEAD>etrade.com<DEAD> where they show you the exchange rate
chart, trend, etc for the past few years? Thanks.
\_ Do not open a European bank account for the interest rate. I
recommend the Liechtensteinische Landesbank (<DEAD>www.llb.li)--they're<DEAD>
pretty nice and professional. Just dump your cash into some long-
term bonds there if you care about interest (I assume that's not
your primary worry, or you wouldn't be asking this question.) As
for exchange rates, check http://oanda.com. -John |
| 2004/11/4-6 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:34655 Activity:nil |
11/04 (Sorry, but this fell victim to troll scroll, so again:)
Does anyone know of or can someone recommend a company (not a one-man
consulting show) that will support an open source firewall product
for a large corporation? BSD-based, a bunch of PHP, etc. I'm looking
for someone to do features development, 3d level support, and general
management "peace of mind"...
\_ http://mnl.com For more info, feel free to mail me:
david+d+1100247667.250b72@bushong.net --dbushong |
| 2004/11/2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:34531 Activity:high |
11/2 No wonder he turned suicide bomber. Those 42 virgins are the only
girlfriends he could ever hope of having.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-11/02/content_2167359.htm
\_ What 42 virgins are you talking about? No such mentioning in the
article.
\_ I find your human humor highly illogical, Captain. |
| 2004/11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:34507 Activity:nil |
11/1 A coworker would like to run PHP w/o a web server as a shell
script. Is this possible? Suggestions?
\_ There's a php shell, and for standalone client-side apps there's
PHP-GTK, though I'm confused as to why not just use Perl or
something.
\_ There's some PHP tools he would like to use.
\_ Fair enough. I'm kinda partial to PHP myself.
\_ Yeah, it's possible. Just make sure you install the commandline
tool (bin/php) when you build it, then you just do something like:
#!/usr/local/bin/php
<?
// your script goes here, use stuff like $_SERVER['ARGV']
?>
--dbushong |
| 2004/10/30-11/1 [Science/GlobalWarming, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:34464 Activity:insanely high |
10/30 How hard would it be to fake something like the recent Bin Laden tape?
Every time something like this happens, un-named "experts" declare it
to be authentic or not, but how hard would it be with modern computer
video equipment to fool people? It seems odd to me that the media
downplay this possibility. I'm asking this as a *technical* question,
not as some conspiracy theory question about what really happened in
this case.
\_ So you agree with Walter Cronkite that Karl Rove is somehow
involved in the creation and/or release of the OBL tape?
\_ It's possible to fake things to arbitrary fidelity with enough
money. The technology is there. Modern CGI is very powerful.
-- ilyas
\_ ok, that's interesting. Does such technology exist anywhere
outside hollywood? Could a bunch of people with a lot of money
in, say, Pakistan do something like this from scratch?
\_ It is serious tinfoil hat territory to think that an OBL tape
would be faked with CGI. If Pakistan were to try to fake it,
they would get a look-alike. -tom
\_ I agree 100%. The question is whether it's *possible*
technically for someone outside of hollywood to do this
convincingly.
\_ Tom is wrong. It's true that no one will bother to
spend the money in practice, but the feat is not
technically out of reach. Consider ff the movie.
They had essentially photorealistic quality, but the
faces/bodies moved in ... odd ways. That movie was
a while ago, and it wasn't better then because square
had a fixed budget. If a government commissioned a
fully photorealistic clip of someone, money being no
object, it would be done. The entire clip would be
special cased, there would be an army of 'animators'
involved, the tag might run in the billions, but it
could be done. The bottleneck is not the technology
but how far people are willing to go. Ask any
graphics/vision guy. -- ilyas
graphics/vision guy. Tom also needs help with reading
comprehension, as he seems to be answering a tinfoil
question, which op explicitly said he was not asking.
-- ilyas
\_ FF was *not* photorealistic. It would be obvious to
anyone looking at it that those faces were animated.
It was an impressive feat, but one which would fool
only an audience willing to suspend its disbelief.
Humans are *very* picky about what we will accept
in terms of facial appearance and movement. -tom
\_ FF faces certainly did not _move_ in a
photorealistic way, but the stills were quite
believable faces. Anyways, I still think what
I said is possible with enough money. -- ilyas
\_ yeah, if you just put billions of dollars into
inventing new technologies, in 10 or 15 years
you might be able to achieve the same thing as
$10K in plastic surgery. And then you can
spend another 20 years working on generating
a plausible computer-generated voice that
sounds like a particular person. Christ,
you're an idiot. -tom
\_ So, John, how many examples do you need?
-- ilyas
\_ Well, I wouldn't call people names, but
I don't know who's right or wrong, so
I'll pass :-) -John
\_ examples of what? you setting up a
strawman that's totally unrelated to
the original question? There's no
shortage of those. -tom
\_ FF? The Final Fantasy movie with the weird story
line about ghosts from an alien world on Earth?
Their big claim to fame was getting the character
hair to look right which I think they got 99%.
If someone is saying FF had photo realistic faces
then sorry, I'm with tom on this one. They did
good facial expressions but not good faces if that
makes any sense.
\_ I wonder if you took FF-quality CGI actors, and then
ran the video through filters to degrade it to VHS
quality, if it would look a lot more realistic
because the small errors get blurred out.
\_ You're an idiot. All of the movement was
motion-captured.
\_ Uh, so? Why is that not a valid technique?
\_ With CGI? No. Nor in Hollywood. -tom |
| 2004/9/16-10/27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:33571 Activity:nil |
9/16 PHP scripts are now processed by the php4 module, and
index.php has been added to Apache's DirectoryIndex directive. |
| 2004/9/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:33570 Activity:kinda low |
9/16 Soda question: I have a file index.php in one of my public_html
subdirectories, but when I http to ~me/foo/ the PHP isn't getting
processed, though ~me/public_html/foo/index.php is getting served up.
What am I doing wrong?
\_ Do this "ln -s index.php index.html". I had to do the same thing
for my index.htm.
\_ Doesn't help. It loads the file but does not process it.
\_ why not mv index.htm index.html
\_ It was automatically generated, and I didn't want to rename it
every time it's generated.
\_ who was automatically generating it?
\_ Photoshop.
\_ Ah, I think what I'm looking for is for the line in httpd.conf
#AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
to be uncommented, but barring that, I can deal. -op
Did a workarouns with a dummy index.html and the meta tag
http-equiv="Refresh"
\_ Never use meta refresh. It breaks the back button.
http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/reback
\_ I just added index.php to DirectoryIndex in httpd.conf so
it should work correctly now. -brett
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_alias.html.en#redirect
\_ meta refresh works client side when you can't change the
server config... I don't think we have mod rewrite access
on (based on quick scan of the httpd.conf)
\_ on soda you can put this in your .htaccess:
Redirect /~user/foo/old.html <DEAD>new.url/whatever<DEAD>
Meta refresh sucks. Don't use Meta refresh.
\_ Great question. index.php has just been added to DirectoryIndex. |
| 2004/9/16-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:33560 Activity:low |
9/15 Are there any opensource website management systems that will let
you create a site similar to http://cnn.com ? PHPNuke and Slashcode might
be able to work but doesn't seem to be quite right.
\_ PHP: Midgard: http://www.midgard-project.org
Perl: Mason: http://www.masonhq.com
--dbushong
\_ Sorry, I used the wrong term. I'm not looking for a CMS. I'm
looking for a tool/app? that let's me create nice frontend templates
can nicely display entries from either flat files or possibly,
a CMS. midgard and mason both seem like a good start though. tnx. |
| 2004/9/12-13 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:33477 Activity:nil |
9/12 Does anyone have any good PHP learning sites that they could recommend
to a webdesigner that doesn't have programming experience? So far,
http://php.net and webmonkey seem to be pretty good.
\_ http://www.w3schools.com |
| 2004/9/3-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:33342 Activity:high 50%like:33058 |
9/3 Can anyone recommend a good introductory PHP book?
\_ The API on http://php.net is superb if you know perl.
\_ On a related note, do people really like embedding code in HTML via
PHP? It seems incredibly hackish and error-prone to me.
\_ I worked at a place during .ASP. It become a nightmare when
\_ I worked at a place doing .ASP. It become a nightmare when
trying to do site updates because of the fuzzy line between
code and content. We wanted content updates to be fast and
easy but code updates to be heavily QA'd but when your code and
content blur lines like this, yes it does become incredibly
hackish, error-prone, and hard to deal with in a professional
software shop.
\_ How is it more error prone that using non-embedded code?
Yes, some people like emdedding code in HTML as ASP, PHP,
mod_perl/Masson, and similar technologies are extremely
popular on the web.
\_ With code fragments here and there, I see the potential for
(1) reuse via copy and paste and
(2) "losing" the flow of the code in the html
(3) if some page elements are conditional, it has the
potential to be very confusing.
\_ HTML sucks too! Use all text/plain.
\_ My non-trivial HTML experience was with Perl and MySQL,
using a template library for rendering the HTML. I
liked the separation of code and content.
\_ What is your point?
\_ My only non-trivial HTML experience was with Perl and
MySQL, using a template library for rendering the HTML.
I liked the separation of code and content. PHP looks
like a mess by comparison.
\_ These are process issues, not language issues. When I write PHP,
I put all of the code possible in functions that go in (usually
auto-)included lib files. Then all my web-accessible PHP (HTML)
files have in them are ifs, foreachs, etc. (All the same stuff
you'd use in any templating language; why use another language?)
--dbushong
\_ ORA's new "Web Database Applications with PHP and MySQL" just
came out a few months ago. It covers PHP 5 and whichever
MySQL version was current at the time of publishing. Yes, you
might learn it on the web too, though, I still prefer reading
books myself.. |
| 2004/8/23-24 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:33086 Activity:very high |
8/23 Is soda running a web proxy?
\_ Not to my knowledge, but if you need one (assuming you're talking
about a cgi proxy) I recommend setting up nph-proxy.cgi. It's
free and easy and works a charm. -John
\_ If you want a real http(s)/ftp proxy I recommend squid:
http://www.squid-cache.org
It isn't too hard to get running, and for low traffic
volume the default config provides reasonble performance.
\_ Seconded. But "real" http proxies don't work from behind
corporate firewalls, usually. CGI proxies do. -John
\_ note that running an unauthenticated web proxy is a violation of
campus policy. (And is likely to get you in trouble). -tom
\_ is that worse than fingering soda a few times per second?
\_ Only ONE MAN would DARE give me the raspberry! |
| 2004/8/19-20 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:33025 Activity:moderate |
8/19 Please suggest a good web hosting site. Ideally with
php/shell/sql/cgi-bin support. TIA
\_ http://findmyhosting.com is a good search engine for what you want.
\_ http://he.net
\_ http://qualityhostonline.com -- starting at $4/year
\_ I pay $2/yr.
\_ that doesn't have shell does it?
\_ thanks for your help - op |
| 2004/8/18-19 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:32988 Activity:very high |
8/17 http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/223286p-191854c.html Gov. McGreevey: I am married to a woman, and had a gay affair with Cipel, aiding his emmigration from Israel to be with me by giving him a cush homeland security director job although he wasn't qualified. He was going to sue for sexual harrassment unless I paid him $5 million. But he sure is cute. Cipel: It's true! Not only that, I'm straight. All his advances were unwanted! Gay college professor: Cipel had a relationship with me! \_ What is McGreevey's wife's stance on this? I don't see it mentioned in the news. \_ She thinks Cipel's kinda cute too. \_ The wife almost never speaks when a politician is forced to go public as a scumbag cheat of any sort. They "stand by their man" because what else is she going to do if she helps his career go down the drain? He's the gravy train. \_ Did Hillary express support during the Monica scandal? \_ She's still married to him, isn't she? \_ Am I the only one who thinks McGreevey's wife is hot? \_ Yes. \_ I haven't even seen a pic in the news yet. URL please? \_ Pic? \_ There is a shot on Rush Limbaugh's page: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081704/content/cutting_edge.guest.h tml http://tinyurl.com/54kj8 \_ Thanks. Hmm, hard to tell from that pic if she's hot. \_ CNN had a pic a few days ago when this was news. She's aged milf at best and that's only with full make-up. \_ Yes, I think waking up to his wife everyday turned him gay. HOTTER!! GAYER!! \_ she might have been hot 20 years ago. \_ homophobic bigot! |
| 2004/8/7-8 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:32762 Activity:nil |
8/7 How do I run php scripts on csua?tia
\_ man www |
| 2004/7/6 [Computer/SW/Graphics, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:31176 Activity:insanely high |
7/6 Matrix Ultimate Collection:
http://forums.matrixfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24272
\_ The ultimate collection would be to rewrite parts 2 & 3 into
something watchable.
\_ True that.
\_ And more computer graphics to replace Keanu Reeves.
\_ You mean Keanu isn't CGI?
\_ They got an actor to play the boring bits.
People are cheaper than computer time. |
| 2004/5/19 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:30288 Activity:nil |
5/19 Audited PHP: http://www.hardened-php.net/documentation.php \_ PHP is for panies. With vi and perl 4.036 you should be able to do anything you need to. |
| 2004/5/8-9 [Recreation/Humor, Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Recreation/Media] UID:30105 Activity:nil |
5/8 Van Helsing: all action. Literally, non-stop action. There is almost
no point in the movie where you aren't watching action or in the short
setup to action. Stick your tongue in cheek, ignore the few minor
timeline and plot issues and enjoy the show. I personally found it
amusing that the female lead was doing all sorts of acrobatics in a
tight, inflexible corset. The cgi was excellent except for 2-3 brief
shots. |
| 2004/5/2-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:29950 Activity:very high |
5/1 Can someone please recommend a good apachelog analyzer (generates
statistics, etc etc)? Something cool, maybe with HTML+graphics,
easy to use, and free.
\_ awstats. uses php, easy to set up. maybe doesn't do everything
that webalyzer does, but a heck of a lot easier to install.
\_ umm, webalizer is pretty easy to install.
\_ analog is the STANDARD!
\_ Search the web for "Scratchy" |
| 2004/3/24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:12831 Activity:nil |
3/24 I'm being asked convert a simple ASP script from IIS to Apache.
The script is written in VB and all it does is echo back the cookies and
query string params of the HTTP request, along with a hardcoded body.
What's the easiest way to write something to do the same thing using
Apache. Ideas or pointers to sample code is appreciated.
\_ I think you'll need a scriptng language along with Apache.
Try a PHP or Perl/CGI script.
http://www.google.com/search?q=php+cookies
\_ PHP has a phpinfo() function that will print out the entire
environment for you, if you're just looking for a debug tool. If you
really need to port this specific page, PHP is still a good candidate.
\_ I think you need to learn how to format properly.
\_ http://docs.rinet.ru/UCGI/ch13.htm |
| 2004/3/23-24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:12825 Activity:nil |
3/23 A friend is going to create an email account for her small business
and post it on the net. Assuming she would get lots of spams, she
wants to know whether spam blocking at hotmail or yahoo is any good
or whether she should use a domain hosting service.
\_ Why does she want to post it on the web? Just make her a
comments form and and cgi/php script that sends her email.
Commercial spam blocking services suck ass.
\_ There are various simple b2b sites that let businesses post ads
with contact info, like a bulletin board. So it's beyond her
control. Many such sites are not spam-smart yet.
\_ I know this is not what you asked, but I highly recommend you make
some sort of "contact us!" page for the business with a HTML form,
rather than post her email address on her site. -brain
\_ Spam blocking at yahoo and hotmail is waaayyy too overzealous for
this sort of thing. I have a box set up to do
``what you want'' (TM) for email, i.e. IMAPS, non-destructive
spamassassin with well trained bayes filters, SMTP+AUTH over SSL,
redundant MX hosts, etc. As long as your friend is not going to
bandwidth hose or attract DOS attacks I would be willing to host
her email inexpensively. If your friend's business is something
cool, e.g. non-profit working to promote human rights, I'll do it
gratis. Drop me an email. -dans
\_ What method and server software do you use for SMTP+AUTH?
\_ Pretty much everyone is running Cyrus SASL for the
authentication layer. All modern MTA's that I am aware
of have the necessary plumbing to support SASL. I run
postfix, but I've also done it with sendmail (I wouldn't
want to do it again). -dans
\_ My friend is selling bio weapons to third world nations so they
can play on a level field with the evil Western powers. It is
entirely non-profit and advances the rights of women and the poor
in the third world. What do I need to do to get a free account?
\_ One meellion dollars in small, unmarked, non-consecutively
numbered bills. -dans
\_ Thanks. Are you running a commercial hosting service? Is there
any commercial hosting service that does it? (presummably with
a shell account?)
\_ No, I am not running a commercial hosting service. I just
happen to have several boxes set up to do this, and offer
service to friends, family, and friends of friends. Mostly
it is an evil ploy to get my friends off of shitty webmail
services like Hotmail and Yahoo so I don't ever have to
update my address book, resend messsages when they bounce due
to quota, etc... In particular, email account != shell
account on my boxes. Most people don't need shell accounts,
and most people lack the clue to use a shell account in a
responsible manner that won't compromise system security.
-dans
\_ I guess that is why almost no low cost hosting service
offers a shell account. But if I have a domain hosted
with email acct., is there a way to route the incoming
emails there first to a place where I have shell acct.,
say soda, filtered it w. spamassassin, and then route
back to that domain?
\_ No, I think it's mostly that shell accounts aren't in
wide demand. ftp is sufficient for most people's needs
so it's not cost effective to provide shell accounts.
You *can* route it to a place with a shell account and
filter it with spamassassin, probably easiest to do
with /etc/aliases, which I can set up. Pushing it back
to the original box is tricky to do without creating
mail loops. Of course, if you read what I wrote,
you'll note that my box is already running
spamassassin. Also, I've got my box set up to allow
mail filtering without a shell via sieve. -dans
\_ I have a yahoo account, and I seem to get a lot less spam than my
family and friends who use hotmail. |
| 2004/3/13-14 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:12653 Activity:nil |
3/13 Anyone got pointers to docs/files for info on using MySQL on soda?
It's for a class project and wanted to use PHP and MySQL on soda
to experiment with it. Has anyone tested it out?
Is this it? '/usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld' Thanks in advance...
\_ We have a postgres server available for such projects; email
root for more info. |
| 2004/2/24-8/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:12725 Activity:nil 66%like:35793 |
2/23 php upgraded to 4.3.4; bugs to erikk |
| 2004/2/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:12328 Activity:kinda low |
2/20 Anyone know of any simple console or php based calendar/appointment
program? I just can't get myself to use my palm effectively enough
to remember stuff.
\_ PHPiCalendar (source forge project) displays your .ics calendar
files. So you could just upload your calendar to your server and
use it as the front end. Otherwise, Yahoo! is cool. -brain
\_ I've recently started using the Yahoo calendar. It is pretty
useful. The UI can be a bit clunky at times, but it does what
I want... and web-accessibility is a big plus for me. One cool
feature I like is that it will send you reminders for appt's
via SMS msg's to your cell phone.
\_ Thanks. I'll try it again and see if it's improved since few
years back. I think it was rather slow before. Now, any
shell utils? -op
\_ I have been thinking of writing one. What feature do you want?
\_ I have been thinking of writing one.
\_ I don't want to discourage you but there are a lot of them
at sourceforge. -brain
\_ but they all suck
\_ What would you like it to be? I have some interest
in writing one that I would use myself.
at sourceforge. -brain
\_ but they all suck
\_ this is what i've found. any evidence say otherwise? |
| 2004/1/5-6 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:11663 Activity:nil |
1/5 Not something you want to see before making a trade:
An error has occured while processing request:
<DEAD>trade.americanexpress.com/brokerage/AControlServlet<DEAD>
Message: [JSP 1.0 Processor] reported an error
... along with the associated Java stack trace. |
| 2003/10/29-30 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:10849 Activity:nil |
10/29 Hosting question...
So what are some recomendations for very cheap and reliable
hosting options? I want DB support (MySQL, or postgres), JSP/servlet
stuff, and other general scripting things like PErl, PHP. I'd also
like to get a couple domains, and dont have any access to servers
to do name serving. thanks.
\_ when you find this magical utopian provider that will cheaply and
reliably host your entire network, your db, java engine and every
thing else and do it on their own hardware, please let the rest of
us know. i've got 40 racks of servers i'd like to move to this
wonderland.
\_ well "cheap" and "reliable" are obviously relative, and there
is obviously an inverse correlation between the two. There
are many places that will do most of what asked about and
I was just soliciting recommendations. ... but thanks for
keeping the motd useless.
\_ my pleasure. next time ask an answerable question and you
might get an answer you can use.
\_ how about 10 of us pitch in for a nice Linux box and co-locate it.
We'll run it like an extension of CSUA, or a colony of it. A bunch
of us can vote what should be there and what shouldn't, and some
of us can manage portions of it like postgres, apache, sendmail,
spamassassin, etc etc. It'll be more efficient than CSUA since
there are less people and no politburo, and it'll be better
because there are less users.
\_ Why would anyone want that? I come here for the people. Most of
us already have jobs and high speed near-the-backbone net access
if we wanted to grab an IP and dump a box outside the corp. fw
for personal use. |
| 2003/10/29-30 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:10846 Activity:very high |
10/29 And so it begins, bit by bit the death of outsourcing:
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20031023005950&newsLang=en
Send your shit overseas or to someone with no attachment to the US and
reap the 'rewards'. This is an extra zinger on top of last week's
UCSF medical transcription extortion problem.
\_ http://csua.org/u/4ua
Send your shit overseas or to someone with no attachment to the US and
reap the 'rewards'. This is an extra zinger on top of last week's
UCSF medical transcription extortion problem.
\_ Ehh. That could happen regardless of outsourcing.
\_ Bzzt not quite. In this concrete example, Russia has very
weak to nonexistent computer crime laws. There has historically
been almost no interest on the part of Russian law enforcement
agencies to cooperate (for better or worse) with their western
counterpart in areas like this. -John
\_ yeah right, try it here and your ass would be in prison by the
end of the week. if it was that easy it'd happen all the time
or do you just believe that American employees are just really
ethical compared to their foreign counterparts? |
| 2003/10/28 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:10826 Activity:moderate |
10/28 Any tips on using php on csua? I get "end of script headers"
server error when I try to incorporate php into my html file on
csua, do I need to put some other path or something in? (anyone
have a template or simple script they can point me to?) Thanks!
\_ judging from the logs, i think Soda's suexec+php setup
is screwy and doesn't work, mail root?
\_ man www
PHP scripts are processed by Apache's cgi handler and php
if they have execute premissions and begin with this line:
#!/usr/local/bin/php
if they have execute premissions and begin with this line:
#!/usr/local/bin/php
\_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~danh/phpinfo.php works
\_ Thanks - I had assumed it was loaded as a module... -OP |
| 2003/10/21-22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:10710 Activity:nil |
10/20 When did the dailycal switch to using PHP? Articles actually load now.
\_ dailycal started working after they stopped using http://autobahn.org,
a cheapo ISP managed by lame ass people and admined by a mediocre
sysadmin who has a bloated ego.
\_ WTF are you talking about? That shit doesn't load at all. I need
my SoT fix! |
| 2003/9/1-2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:10032 Activity:nil |
9/1 All the sobig email I get seems to come from a specific IP address:
<DEAD>adsl-XXX-XXX-XXX-XXX.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net<DEAD> . Is this reliable?
Would contacting PacBell be of any use?
\_ no. just delete it and any email from evil people this way
in your .procmailrc unless for some reason others really have
to send you a windows screensaver or dll via email:
:0 B:
* ^content-transfer-encoding.*base64
* name=.*\.(pcd|pif|reg|scr|sct|shb|shs|url|vb|vbe|dll)
/dev/null
\_ Delete everything between "All" and "?" and the answer would still
be: No.
\_ the <DEAD>pacbell.net<DEAD> address is the only one listed before it arrives
at soda. Unless I'm getting them from a soda user, can that
still be a spoofed header? is sobig even known to forge headers? |
| 2003/7/16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:29051 Activity:high |
7/15 What's the best language for web scripting these days? Perl? PHP?
Python? Something else?
\_ PHP is really fast.
\_ php is a pos if you need to do anything real. Perl or
jsp/jsf is the way to go.
\_ starting a new perl process for each web page
being served up will be much slower than php.
I'm curious if anybody has opinions on mod_perl.
\_ My understanding is that with mod_perl, perl outperforms
php--without it, it loses. But I haven't run any
comparisons myself.
\_ I've coded in both and supported lots of coders in all.
PHP has the quickest dev. times, is easiest to do almost
anything and has had the least problems. (really none).
It's just my experience, but i've been on two bigish php
projects with no problems and have never dealt with a
java or mod-perl project where there wasn't some
weirdness that had to be worked through.
\_ i guess cold fusion is completely dead
\_ do we have a LAMP set up on soda?
\_ 'best' for what? fastest? more secure? best supported? best
dev environment? it's like asking if one OS is 'better' than
another. is this a somewhat subtle attempt to start a flame war?
you need something less subtle to get a good flame fest going. |
| 2003/7/9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28968 Activity:high |
7/8 Is there a way to put a colored border on the inside of a cell
in an html table?
\_ use CSS, border attribute
\_ td, th { border: 2px solid orange }
\_ why ",", not " "?
\_ RTFSpecs
\_ with comma: "apply this rule to any td or th"
w/o comma: "apply only to th that is child of td"
\_ Can't you set BGCOLOR? For example, <TD BGCOLOR=GREEN>
I don't know if it's standard, though, so it might not work in
all browsers.
\_ That stuff has been deprecated.
\_ and you will die for suggesting the use of bgcolor, esp. in caps
\_ related css question: how can i change the blue background of the
selected item in a dropdown list?
\_ select option:active { background-color: pink; } might
work.
\_ at least w/ IE6, it doesn't work. i think "active" is
only a pseudo-class for the a element, no?
\_ In CSS1, yes, but CSS2 expands active, hover, and focus
to all elements. See if it works with mozilla. Also, try
select, option:active { background-color: pink; }
^ note the comma
just to make sure.
\_ I suggest using the validator services. valid xhtml is
the way of the future. http://validator.w3.org and
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator
\_ ya very nice and all but it still doesnt work.
\_ it may not work but at least you'll be spec-clean! |
| 2003/6/10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28685 Activity:low |
6/9 Anyone out there use any of these PHP IDEs? Any one better than
the others? (this ain't for me i'm happy with slickedit).
\_ I use ed. It's the STANDARD PHP IDE! |
| 2003/5/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28421 Activity:high |
5/12 I'm making a website for a friend and he'd like to process some
simple credit card transactions (he's a lawyer and its for one-
time legal consultations). Anyone know a good way to do this?
Yahoo and Earthlink both seem to offer services, but I already have
a full dynamic web app, and thus would prefer to not have to use
some dumbed-down GUI interface for setting the thing up. thanks.
\_ Talk to the CC folks you'll be dealing with. They each have a
variety of different methods and pricing for cc+net charges.
There's software on your end to talk to their end on an encrypted
connection and an API to go with it which the software will deal
with. The software's task is generic, do some research and buy
whatever fits your budget.
\_ I don't get it... are you saying the banks providing merchant
accounts will typically provide me w/ an API for processing
CC transactions?
\_ no, im saying there *is* a standard api that the people who
build the cc software use to talk to the banks. it's unlikely
anyone will give random hacker dude their api.
\_ ok, I guess I'm not being clear... what I'm asking for
are some recomendations for cc software places
\_ I've been looking at a variety of systems and have
some notes here : http://csua.org/u/ebd
I think I'll be going with ECHO since they have a Java
version and my app is mostly JSP/servlets -brain
\_ great! thanks alot.
\_ rule of thumb-- don't work for a lawyer.
\_ I use VeriSign. They offer you APIs to talk to all major
credit card issuers. You only pay them a small fee when
someone charges his/her card. |
| 2003/5/9-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28387 Activity:kinda low |
5/8 is there a perl equiv of the php "escapeshellarg()" function?
\_ Tell us what escapeshellarg actually does (I can guess but...).
I know perl but not php. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
\_ I'm trying to untaint a var that i will pass to a shell cmd.
I think $ARGV[0] =~ s(')('\\'')g should do it, but <shrug>.
\_ You may want to look at quotemeta, but this sounds like an ugly
hack.
\_ open(FOO,"\Q$tainted\E |"); |
| 2003/4/28-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28245 Activity:moderate |
4/27 Macromedia ColdFusion and Jrun are steaming piles of horseshit that
are not fit to be emptied in an outhouse, much less run a web
application.
\_ You only just figured this out now?
\_ Doing your programming in tags (I got stuck with ColdFusion
at sony) is always a bad idea(TM). I assume you're stuck
using it because the dimwits before you got stuck on the
platform. In fact, JavaScript and JSP and ASP are only
marginally better. Mixing HTML with other shit is always
a bad idea.
\_ Yeah! do all your web coding with SSI!
\_ What alternative do you propose?
\_ ATG Dynamo does a good job of enforcing the MVC
design pattern with its Java application server.
\_ CGI.
\_ This wasn't really a revelation, more an exclamation of
frustration. Anyone know a ISP that will let you run ColdFusion
backed by mysql? Additionally, will need SSL support. I need
something set up fairly quickly, but only for a month or two. -op |
| 2003/4/24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:28209 Activity:nil |
4/23 HTML form JSP question:
What I have is essentially, an array of a set of radio buttons.
Since radio buttons are identified by its name and there is no
concept of scope in HTML, how do I deal with this? I really want
to avoid things like
<input type="radio" name="radio1">
<input type="radio" name="radio2">
<input type="radio" name="radio3">
mainly because the javabean for this form is going to be a pain
in the butt to write.
any pointer? custom tag? thanks in advance
\_ Well, any form inputs are basically parameters to a function
(read cgi). So name them accordingly. A terse, descriptive
name. And there certainly is "scope" in HTML. It's global per-
page (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, you mention JSP, which
definitely has definable scope (e.g. page, session, etc.)
--scotsman
\_ what i want is a radio input which has the scope of
let say, 1 table row!
\_ radio buttons belong to a group, so you could do the following:
<input type="radio" name="group1" value="radio1"/>
<input type="radio" name="group1" value="radio2"/>
<input type="radio" name="group1" value="radio3"/>
So, the parameter is group1 and then whichever radio button
is selected will pass the value.
\_ Well, this is what you would do for, say, a multiple choice
question or the like.
\_ What is your use case exactly?
\_ example: a page of 10 multiple choice questions.
idealy we want be able use an array to handle
them, instead of hardcoding the name.
\_ I wouldn't recommend this, but if you want to use an
array you could give each question-group the same name
and then make the value for each answer something like
q1_a2 (1 and 2 would be values from the question and
answer loops). Then you could retrieve every
answer by getting the parameter value array for the
parameter named "questions". An example entry would
be:
<input type="radio" name="questions" value="q1_a2"/>
But I'd rather name each question-group something
like q1 ... qn and then each answer in that group
a1 ... an and then just pull out the parameter values
using a loop of names q1 ... qn and stop when the
value for q_current is empty. |
| 2003/4/17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:28153 Activity:nil |
4/16 about half years ago, I asked a question basically compare different
kind of server-side scripts: jsp, asp, php, etc, and I got a pretty
good response. One thing I did "miss" was that I didn't ask about
Cold Fusion. Now, in my company, my boss is trying to stuff
Cold Fusion down our throats. How's Cold Fusion compare with all
other server-side scripts, in terms of advantages, disadvantages?
Thanks in advance [blatant grammar errors corrected]
\_ Cold Fusion == PHP only buggier and non-free. Considering how
hard PHP sucks, that's probably a bad sign.
\_ My wife did some work with Cold Fusion and she couldn't think
of enough bad things to say about it. I was most impressed
with the fact that you couldn't really write your own functions
in Cold Fusion until something like version 4! Based on her
experience I would advise you to resist Cold Fusion as much
as possible. Good luck. -emin |
| 2003/3/23 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:27808 Activity:high |
3/22 The real solution would be to replace motd.public with something a
little more secure and functional, like a CGI weblog script or
something. But that would be too rational and easy, which wouldn't
be in the spirit of the motd.
\_ http://csua.org/motd
\_ that wouldn't be the motd anymore would it?
\_ The real solution to what exactly? I don't see a problem. |
| 2003/3/19 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:27739 Activity:moderate |
3/18 How do I put my e-mail address in my home page and avoid being picked
up by spammers? Do spammers scan for "mailto:" links or do they scan
for all text in the .html files? Thx.
\_ Don't worry so much about the scan part...it is too hard to
maintain. I just use spamassassin now, and sometimes give
out user-tag (or user+tag) type addresses.
\_ put up an image of your email address. The spammers aren't going
to bother taking the image file and trying to OCR it to get the
email address.
\_ Cool! Thanks!
\_ Make a form that posts to a cgi script that sends you mail
\_ post your email address to usenet then everyone will have it and
you won't need it on your web page.
\_ This is like that entry on the multiple-choice test your
teachers warned you about.
\_ "E"! It's always "E"!
\_ Someone deleted my post about JavaScript obfuscation, which is
probably the best way to keep the functionality of a mailto: link
while hiding from spammers. ObGoogle. -tom
\_ I wouldn't use a mailto: link. I'd rather just post my email
address in html using '@' for '@' and '.' for '.'.
This will prevent the vast majority of spammers from harvesting
your email addr from your webpage.
\_ This sounds good too. Thanks.
\_ Thanks! -spammer |
| 2003/3/5-6 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:27604 Activity:high |
3/5 VI people, please ignore:
I have defined a function (well, copied from the web) using
(defun jsp-mode() .....), dump it into my .emacs file
how to call it explicitly in emacs? M-x then?
(and no, i dont' know how to hook my jsp-mode to .jsp file)
\_ VI people how to ignore? Maybe VI people knowing how to, eh?
Some people how to knowing multiple editor environments! --howto
\_ I do have multimode.el. I did managed to get jsp mode to work
but I still don't know how to call functions which
explicitly defined in the .emacs file.
\_ Explicity defined is managed getting jsp mode work but not
how to doing explicit function call VI!
\_ You weenies and your interative editors. SED is the STANDARD!
\_ You weenies and your interactive editors. SED is the STANDARD!
\_ Real Men(c) don't make speling mistakes!
\_ Your interactive editor incorrectly assumed "interactive"
instead of "iterative." |
| 2003/2/11-12 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:27371 Activity:high 71%like:27368 |
2/11 Need to write lexer for VB. (Links to spec)P obgoogle failed.
\_ sounds like an interesting project. what you doing?
\_ Adding a lexer for a program analysis tool that already does
c/c++, php, python, perl. The program is written on unix,
I just need a better way of finding out the lang spec for VB
other than writing a bunch of examples and seeing what comes
spewing out of m$ compiler.
\_ your seach-fu is lacking. "Visual Basic language specification"
on google returns this as the first result.
http://csua.org/u/930 (msdn.microsoft.com)
2/11/2...003 - Hi tony! |
| 2003/2/11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:27368 Activity:nil 71%like:27371 |
2/11 Need to write lexer for VB. (Links to spec)P obgoogle failed. 2/11/2...003 - Hi tony! |
| 2003/1/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:26986 Activity:kinda low |
1/3 Looking for a part-time / side job that involves programming (HTML,
Javascript, VBScript, ASP, VB, Java - but not Enterprise Java). I have
a full time job already (tech-related, but not programming) but looking
for something to gain additional experience (have experience with all
of the above at a high level). Not looking for a big supplemental
income. Any "coder-monkey" type jobs where I can work from home? Not
a troll.
\_ Low income side jobs don't work with cable modem.
\_ i'm unemployed and would be willing to do the same...
\_ and this is why the employed geek above will have a hard
time finding that situation right now. |
| 2002/11/20 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:26580 Activity:nil |
11/19 can we turn on php support on the webserver please?
\_ Note that using mod_php on a multiuser system could
introduce some awkward security issues. Why not just
execute PHP scripts as CGIs? -!root
\_ sure! how do i do that
\_ Someone needs to install the php interpreter on soda and it
better be compiled with --enable-discard-path or it might not
work well for CGIs. -!root
\_ After looking at the ports collection, doing
"cd /usr/ports/lang/php4 && make install"
should probably do it.
\_ Done. --root
\_ I'm still getting <?phpinfo()?> as the result of
my test.php - should I rename the file something else
or have it in a different dir? |
| 2002/10/2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:26073 Activity:high |
10/1 I am trying to modify an application with a pretty complicated post and
i seem to be missing the variable names or the values that i got from
just reading the source. Is there a way I can change the file it posts
to to "myfile.[php||pl||sh||whatever" and have "myfile" just dump
exactly what is being posted to it?
\_ if you're using the CGI library in perl,
you can dump out all post values the page is receiving
easily, i think the syntax is something like
print $query->dump; - danh
\_ Undefined subroutine CGI::dump
\_ and actually i just tried the below
on a different machine and i got the same error,
it works on soda though - danh
\_ Was it a linux box? Mine is. But your are right it works
fine on soda and i can just post to a .cgi here. - tnx.
\_ #!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use CGI;
my $query = new CGI;
print $query->header();
print $query->dump; |
| 2002/9/7-8 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:25796 Activity:nil |
9/6 I need to write a Highly Secure (like banking/gambling level security)
web application.
Is Java any more secure than php (ceteris paribus).
And what is the best way to go about getting an outside agency that
will do a thorough audit when i'm done. I don't need some h0zer to
run a nessus/SAINT scan and throw it on some letterhead.
\_ i'd trust java a bit more than php. it's actually a main dev
concern, where with php it seems like it's been an afterthought.
take it with a grain of salt. i'm a sysadmin, not a developer.
\_ Concerning audits, I would do two types; first of all, don't
underestimate h0zers with nessus/SAINT. Peer review is a Good
Thing (tm). Don't hesitate to ask people you know to hammer away
at it. You'll also, for the suits, want a (mainly pro-forma)
formal audit--depending on your level of funding, you might want
either a consultancy that does a lot of security work, like kpmg
(ugh, disclaimer, I think they're all pretty worthless, but this
is for the suits, remember), or one of any number of smaller
outfits to have a go at it. Otherwise, you can probably find
someone CISA certified through ISACA (http://www.isaca.org with
strong application audit clue. If that's no good, mail me and
I can probably help you find someone, obBlatantPlug. -John |
| 2002/7/30-31 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:25454 Activity:high |
7/30 On your soda account, has anoyone tried using 'gallery' web app
from http://sourceforge.net. Also, how do I setup php support? If 'gallery'
is not a good photo 'gallery', what's good?
\_ I've gotten liveframe (look it up) successfully
on soda
\_ use any of the free online services
\_ dbushong seems to have written something... http://bushong.net/pics
\_ I just use File -> Automate -> Web Photo Gallery in Photoshop.
\_ i heart gallery -shac |
| 2002/7/17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25380 Activity:high 75%like:25378 |
7/16 My CGI stuff on soda is failing with "premature ejaculation"
What the deally, yo?
\_ Did you edit the files on Windoze and are now trying to run
them on Unix? They treat <CR> and <LF> differently.
\_ Is this the suexec problem?
\_ I mailed www, and was told it was because they were working on
getting suexec working. At the time, even trivial CGI stuff wasn't
working. It appears to be fixed this morning (7/17).
\_ Looks OK now. Thanks for looking into it.
-OP (original poster, i just invented a new motd-ism!)
\_ uh, people have been using -OP for years.
\_ I've been using that since 3rd grade! You
got molded!!!
\_ Um. Isn't it "moded," short for "outmoded"?
\_ Well no for a year or so maybe. And *I* invented it.
Or coined it, actually. |
| 2002/7/17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:25378 Activity:nil 57%like:25301 75%like:25380 |
7/16 My CGI stuff on soda is failing with "premature end of script headers"
What the deally, yo?
\_ Did you edit the files on Windoze and are now trying to run
them on Unix? They treat <CR> and <LF> differently.
\_ Is this the suexec problem?
\_ I mailed www, and was told it was because they were working on
getting suexec working. At the time, even trivial CGI stuff wasn't
working. It appears to be fixed this morning (7/17).
\_ Looks OK now. Thanks for looking into it.
-OP (original poster, i just invented a new motd-ism!)
\_ uh, people have been using -OP for years. |
| 2002/7/8-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:25301 Activity:high 57%like:25378 |
7/8 All of my CGI scripts on Soda have died all of a sudden.
Error message:
Premature end of script headers: (filename.cgi)
What gives?
\_ CGI suexec has not been built into the new apache httpd.
if user www cannot read/execute your .cgi script, it will
fail to run. suexec will be added later. -- jwang
\_ approx timeframe?
\_ if www CAN read/execute your script (perm 755),
then you get the message described above.
if www CAN NOT read/execute your script (perm 700)
then you get a server error "mod_mime_magic: can't read
'filename'." either way it doesn't work.
\_ hmm.. couldn't basic things like suexec support be tested
and ironed out before switching to the new httpd?
\_ fuck off
\_ .shtml doesn't work either.
\_ Which part? |
| 2002/5/8-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:24759 Activity:nil |
5/8 Anybody knows where I can find an FAQ on creating a cgi-bin
for my webpage on soda?
\_ anyone want to install a servlet engine on soda so
we can use JSP?
\_ I second this: Perl CGI is outdated technology.
Also add a Tomcat server for web services.
\_ Shouldn't that be "a FAQ"?
\_ "an FAQ" is ok if you pronounce it "ef-ay-que".
\_ I pronounce it "fack", as in FAQ U, luser. |
| 2002/4/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:24317 Activity:very high |
4/3 What is advantage/disadvantage of various server-side scripting?
JSP, M$ ASP, PHP?
\_ Next page of replies summarized: Your mileage may vary.
\_ visit link:www.codecharge.com for a nifty tool. Otherwise, PHP is my
favorite since it has source, is designed from ground zero for
web-pages, and is cross-platform.
\_ JSP -> Its java, its slow but its pretty secure and reasonably
well thought out.
ASP -> Its M$. You are pretty much stuck to shitty x86 boxes
running windows if you want ASP. Yes there is Sun's
Chillsoft ASP for Linux but they you are stuck with
shitty x86 boxes running Linux. In either case your
box will be r00ted in a short time, so you will need
to get lots of boxes and keep reimaging them frequently.
PHP -> D00D PHP 15 S0 '1337. It is OSS and all that other
GN00 non-sense and in addition it is a immature language
saddled with horrible half broken libraries that have
inconsistent volatile interfaces and "object models".
Given the right circumstances (ask php to exec a ten
line c program that fork's and execs) and it will lock
up you machine. And don't even think about doing db
interactions in php.
If it were up to me, I'd say go with perl (modperl or fastcgi)
or java servlets instead of these stupid scripting languages.
If you are really interested in speed, security and flexbility
write the damn thing in C.
\_ PHP, JSP and perl all have better security features than C.
\_ Name them. Name a single "feature" that cannot be
implemented in C.
\_ He can't. What he's really saying is his coding fu
is weak and he needs a baby scripting language to
coddle him through at the expense of speed and power.
\_ I would not consider perl a "baby scripting
language", but you are right on all other
counts.
\_ I'm a perl coder and I've seen them on TV. It's
easier than C and slower thus I call it a baby
scripting language.
\_ Everything is possible in C, just not necessarily as easy.
You get a *lot* of speed but give up everything else for it.
and therefore already in memory so the context switch cost
is going to be low relative to the speed gained for any
non-trivial program and even many trivial ones. Try it
yourself. You'll see. --done it before
\_ uh... how can you get speed writing server-side stuff
in C?
\_ Why not? What's so magical about "server side" that makes
C slow? Are you sure you know what "server side" means?
\_ There is a direct correlation between the two. You can't spend
3 years building all the things in C that are free w/ MS or
Java. So you just don't have those things. So your shit sucks
because it is slow or lacks features.
\_ Java and Perl code tends to run from within Web server/
app-server process space, ie down't spawn new processes.
C CGI, on the other hand, will probably be forking a new
process for every shitty little page, which is totally not
worth it. Hence, C CGI tends to be a good deal slower than
Perl/Java. -muchandr
\_ Uh oh... someone is unaware that a C app will be cached
and therefore already in memory so the context switch
cost is going to be low relative to the speed gained
for any non-trivial program and even many trivial ones.
Try it yourself. You'll see. --done it before
\_ C code can be run in the context of the web server if
desired by writting a trivial module that uses shared
memory to communicate with your real C deamons that do
all the work.
\_ Speed Java (/ASP?) >> Speed C when you think about all the tools
for Java that are available to do things like load balancing, cxn
mgmt, etc.
\_ No. This is development time not code speed.
\_ There is a direct correlation between the two. You can't
spend 3 years building all the things in C that are free
w/ MS or Java. So you just don't have those things. So
your shit sucks because it is slow or lacks features.
\_ a few clues: libraries, code borrowing, thanks for being
with us today, Rice A Roni on your way out. And for some
things 3 years to build something that will be fast when
it's done is better than 6 months for something that will
always be too slow.
\_ and what happened to Kiva? NetDynamics? iPlanet?
all that beautiful C++ code got thrown away in favor
of the Java reference implementation. -gosha
\_ C++?!?! Are you fucking insane? How dare you put
C++ into the same sentence as C!?! WTF is wrong
with you? Of course the C++ code got thrown away!
Like, uhm, duh! Damn, has the whole motd gone 420?
\_ C is slow. Write code in assembly.
\_ 010100110101101011100111001010110011001101010101010100101
\_ do it in hardware.
\_ Provide a lab and I'm there.
\_ Tcl... like Perl but faster learning curve
\_ Madness ye all who pass this way!
\_ who gave phil greenspun a csua account? |
| 2002/3/6-7 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:24036 Activity:high |
3/6 Regarding php in apache, the argument of undue load from the
php module can be taken care of with a reverse proxy web cache
like squid. This is highly effective, and I'd be glad to set it
up. --scotsman
\_ can you set up PCP?
\_ No but I can snort it
\_ Real Men(c) inject it raw.
\_ Real Men(c) booty bump it -sky
\_ where can I get PCP sky? |
| 2002/3/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:24020 Activity:high |
3/3 Doh. I missed out on the answer to the "Can we run php on Soda?"
thread and I can't seem to find an answer on the Soda webpage.
Are there any plans afoot to implement php on Soda? --erikred
\_ For the fifth time, no. If you want to run php, build it yourself,
and run it via CGI mechanisms.
\_ why not?
\_ Grumble. From the CSUA FAQ:
We expect our members to be at least somewhat computer
literate, and to have an interest in learning and
experimenting. Because of that, and the fact that our staff
are all volunteers, we don't serve the users in the same way
someplaces like the [19]OCF does. This doesn't mean soda is
especially unreliable or uncared for, it just means we expect
people to be better able to fend for themselves.
...
9. Soda doesn't have XXX installed, could you please install
it?
No. Except in special cases, soda staff does not install
software on request. Soda is meant to promote a user
community, and as such we encourage people to make their
own contributions by installing new software. In addition,
installing software can be a great learning experience
(and is how a number of soda staff got their start). If
you wish to install something on soda, just send mail to
root asking for the necessary permissions to do so.
Furthermore, the majority of sodans don't have php-enabled
web pages, so the extra overhead of running php from within
Apache (i.e. mod_php) is wasteful.
\_ This is a stupid response. Obviously, mod_php is much
more interesting than the CGI version, and a user can't
install mod_php. A decision on whether the small amount
of extra resources required for mod_php is worthwhile
should be made by the people who run the machine, not
some anonymous coward on the MOTD. (If you can manage
to get the people who run the machine to respond to
e-mail). -tom
\_ No, it isn't a stupid response. Saying "please install
PHP" is just the beginning... "OK, but I need the
gd charting module! and the DB access module! what
about the LDAP module?" ad infinitum If it were just
one "portinstall -P", sure, why not.
\_ no it's a stupid response, grumpy root person.
it's not like installing software is actually
difficult in these days of ports and packages,
big freakin' deal. doesn't anyone enjoy
a challenge anymore?
\_ sysadmins work for pay these days -ex-vp
\_ tom, I'm just parroting the response that root staff
gave the last three times this was asked. Fuck off.
- anonymous coward on the MOTD.
\_ Thank you. --erikred
\_ why don't ou just run PHP on ocf? |
| 2002/1/3 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:23440 Activity:very high |
1/2 Does CSUA support PHP?
\_ No, PHP is an abomination. It should be destroyed...
Seriously though:
> cd /usr/local/apache/conf
> grep php httpd.conf
# http://www.php.net will typically use:
#AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
#AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps
#AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
#AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
<Files ~ "\.(cgi|shtml|phtml|php3?)$">
So the answer would be no. That said, you can still use it. Build
your own copy of php, and run your php pages as CGI pages. -dans
\_ Is JSP an abomination?
\_ yes.
\_ Is CGI an abomination too? What isn't an abomination? |
| 2001/12/22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:23350 Activity:high |
12/22 DailyCal is running on IIS/ASP?!! God saves us!
>http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=7323
\_ This is just another option to become a writer. Upload your own
stories or modify the ones already there to suit your taste. |
| 2001/12/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:23324 Activity:kinda low |
12/19 I'm just learning this to be more "marketable". JSP is just a more
glorified Servlet (expanded Servlet) right? Then, is EJB also a more
glorified Servlet? And J2EE is just a bunch of EJBs right? I'm hoping
someone could just give me a simple explanation.
\_Not exactly. JSP is an embedded servlet inside an HTML. So a servlet
is analogous to a complete server side object, i.e. any type of CGI
program. You hook up HTML to a servlet strictly by coding in links in
your html. A JSP is actually written INSIDE html code, so it's
analogous to ASP, ColdFusion, and very cursorely like JavaScript.
When a JSP page is called, a servlet is actually compiled on the
server side from the stub parts of the JSP. This is similar to all
types of "Server Page" technology. The advantagous of Server Page
stuff over traditional CGI type tech is that web people can just
throw everything into one HTML page instead of having to write a
seperate piece of code on the server. As a result, if you know
servlets, you already know JSP.
[ reformatted - motd formatting daemon ]
\_ Servlets/JSPs are techniques for handling HTTP requests. EJB is
an architecture for distributed object systems. J2EE includes
JSP/Servlets, EJB, and other things like JMS (architecture/api
for messaging middleware). |
| 2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:22325 Activity:nil |
9/5 DEADBEEF, CAFEBABE, what else.
\_ D000B015 --pld
\_ grep '^[a-fo]*$' /usr/share/dict/words -- misha
\_ grep -i '^[a-foizsg]*$' /usr/share/dict/words | tr \
'[a-foOiIzZsSgG]' '[A-F0011225599]' -alexf&&officehosers
\_ [] and '' are not needed for tr. -- 0XCF31337
\_ well if you're gonna go that far you might as well add
in the '7' == 'T'... personally I wouldn't go beyond 0,1,5.
this problem is not complete until you compile a list of all
8-letter combinations.
\_ sorry all, I'm dumb... what are we looking for here?
\_ ABEDBABE |
| 2001/7/27-28 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21973 Activity:high |
7/27 So what do people here think of Tomcat/Velocity for web application
development? Is there a future in it? I'm looking for something
more useful than PHP and something that's not Perl. -randal
\_ If you are going to go the Tomcat route, I think it is
worthwhile taking a look at Struts. JSP is nasty but Struts
makes it somewhat usable. -payam
\_ What's wrong with traditional Servlets?
\_ Separation of the front-end design from the back-end
logic is usually considered a good thing.
\_ thank you for not capitalizing "good thing"
\_ And you can't do this using Servlets because...?
\_ Because I'm loath to allow designers to start
mucking around with .java files and build scripts.
From my experience, it's just too foreign for your
average designmonkey. JSP/php/blah files
at least look like normal HTML. Plus, today
there is reasonable tool support for designers to use.
\_ Designers? You mean the artists don't you. The
ones who talk about flows and usability and look
and feel. My experience has been that we just
end up rewriting thier shit anyway. I just use
them for icons, style sheets and proofreading.
Its all thier english degrees are good for anyway.
\_ yeah, you certainly need people to proof-read
your stuff. It's spelled "their," and "it's" is
the contraction for which you're looking. but
with all due respect, coders generally don't
seem to be good authorities on usability either.
\_ JSP is evil. Velocity is Perlish (ergo crap). Use the real thing:
http://freemarker.sourceforge.net |
| 2001/7/24-25 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21929 Activity:high |
7/24 I was told that Broadvision AppServer cost $1 million a pop. That's
crazy. I'm considering buying MS IIS + SQL + ASP programming to do
the small b2b ecommerce site. It's the cheapest solution I've found
so far. I'm still open for a solaris solution though. Anything
equivalent in unix land that cost less than $1000?
\_ Apache + MySQL + PHP is equivalent to IIS+SQL+ASP, and it's
all free. -tom
\_ similarly; solaris-x86 +apache+mysql+php: still free.
\_ intershop not do what you want?
\_ I tend not to buy from companies whose stock is trading around
1 dollar. Where am I going to get the support if I buy? At
least if I use freeware I know that I'm getting what I paid for.
which is nothing!
\_ I agree with you about the freeware part, but Intershop
is a fairly decent product, and the stock price in this
case is completely irrelevant. -John
\_ Look into OpenACS... its a toolkit built on AOLserver +
PostgreSQL. AOLserver uses Tcl for scripting and, of course,
its all open source. - rory
\_ ok. BV is a little expensive. for your small site, they will
probably sell it to you for about $200k. if cheap is what you
want, then i second apache + mysql + php. -uctt
\_ the company is not a dotcom and they don't depend on their web
site for revenue generation. They need a web site for automation
and cost reduction. $200K is the annual salary of a good
designer. gimme a break! I think I will look into mySQL and
PHP. Thanks guys!
\_ Jakarta Tomcat + Jakarta Struts + Apache + Postgres.
\_ Apache + mod_ssl + mod_perl + Mason + Postgres
\_ yah! yermom! |
| 2001/7/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21845 Activity:high |
7/19 I have a mysterious problem with a cgi program. It was working
well. Then, I moved it to a different computer. Now, some of the
screens will give 500: Internal... errors, but will work after
hitting reload several times. What kind of server (apache)
misconfiguration could cause a program to work only part of the
time, given the same input/state? I'm mystified.
\_ Possibly you moved it to a machine that's behind a load balancer,
and you're only getting your machine 1 out of N trials?
\_ There is only one machine, but I have been wondering if
it is making a difference which of the apache child
processes handles the request.
\_ there are a million things that could be wrong. Check
the apache error logs. -tom
\_ Tried to do that, but logs have been intermittent.
We have mod_cgi, and a ScriptLog directive. Many
errors don't produce anything for the %response
or the %stderr sections. So, all I get is the
request, and an entry in error_log that says
"Premature end of script headers."
\_perhaps set up an http proxy to view what's
happening, or send the GET request yourself via
telnet...
\_ Do you have mod_perl enabled? You may be stepping
on variables. I'd disable ScriptLog, it's really
not intended for production environments. Check
your suexec log if you have suexec enabled (and you
should). -tom
\_ race condition |
| 2001/7/14-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21802 Activity:very high |
7/14 bay area jobless rate stands at 4.2.
\_ Sounds like some of the english majors who are expert
coders in vbscript still have jobs or have managed to
get employement in their main field of expertise, food
service.
\_ I don't think I've every heard the words "expert" and
"vbscript coders" used in the same sentence before.
\_ [deleted for obvious trollishness]
\_ [ restored (sortof) for humor value ]
wireless 3g broadband b2b web portal architecture
leveraging opensource internet technologies such
as xml, jsp, servlet, vbscript, active-x, cgi, html,
soap, wap, ldap, asp and linsux for enabling synergized
highly available 24 by 7 interbusiness commerce in
the emergent online global village's bazzar?
\_ [ restored (sort of) for humor value ]
\_ I guess the english majors who are expert vbscript still
have jobs or have quickly converted from the "high-tech"
or "internet sector" to a sector of the job market they
ldap, asp, perl, ssl, ipv6 and linsux for enabling
highly available 24 by 7 e-commerce business and
customer relationship synergies in the new economy's
emergent online borderless global villages' bazzar
and marketplace?
Where have you been since 1996? Hiding in the great
unexplored eastern darks of africa? Grad school?
\_ [deleted for obvious trollishness]
are better qualified for: "food service".
\_ I'm never seend "expert" and vbscript used in the
same sentence.
\_ You never had to deal with "entreprenuers" who were
developing a scalable clustered worldwide distributed
wireless 3g broadband b2b, c2b, b2c and c2c web
portal architecture leveraging proprietary opensource
microsoft internet technologies such as xml, jsp,
ldap, asp, perl, ipv6 and linsux for enabling highly
servlet, vbscript, active-x, cgi, html, soap, wap,
ldap, asp, perl, ipv6 and linux for enabling highly
available 24 by 7 e-commerce business and customer
relationship synergies in the new economy's emergent
online borderless global villages' bazaar and
marketplace?
\_ Whoever wrote this: you're a genius!
\_ That's you... right, geordan?
\_ Sadly, no. I wasn't able to leverage a scalable,
future-proof component-based architecture for this
time-critical opportunity. -geordan |
| 2001/7/12 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21779 Activity:nil |
7/11 who offers classes on PHP in the east bay area? work is paying.
\_ take the money and go get some cheap whores... why would you
want to take a PHP class?
\_ d00d! "cheap"?! do you realize how much a "PHP class" is likely
to cost? this'd cover an all-night orgy with half a dozen
top-notch professionals...
\_ Don't bother. If you know perl, you can learn PHP. It's
simpler, albeit with uglier syntax, and, IMHO, inferior. If
you don't know perl, learn it. If you can't learn perl, you
obviously have issues with functional programming languages,
and won't be able to learn PHP.
\_ Dude. If Perl is a functional programming language then the
Moon is made of green cheese. Lambdas do not a functional
language make. Perl is about as procedural as they come.
It's proud of it in fact. Perl is evil. Look at Ocaml if
you want to know what Perl could have been if it was a good
little language.
\_ Hah! Shows what *you* know! You can do ANYTHING with perl!
even get yourself fired!!1! err....hold on a second....
that came out wrong.... |
| 2001/7/11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21769 Activity:nil |
7/12 Why is ASP so bad?
An example of an ASP model- Yahoo Finance- This entire site is
one big ASP application. You can login- load you stock portfolio-
track its performance- host discussions- view data related to
stocks
Same goes for the bill pay.. same goes for the MyYahoo stuff..
Yahoo has gone way beyond the portal to information- They give
people the ability to Loadand Retrieve data using the ASP model.
The whole ASP thing just got a bad name because a lot of broke
dot coms lost their shirts persuing the ASP model- in particular
related to the keyword ecommerce. But in actuality the ASP model
is far superior to anything (except for maybe the security
aspect). The rollout costs are nil- the training costs are
minimized- the ability to implement quick enhancements is there-
If lets say- Ellison got his way with the network computer- we
really would have a better operating environment as MSFT could go
in real time and update the interface and release enhancements
without having to bundle the entire package together.
The Ecommerce ASP is still a multibillion dollar solution. Look
at Ebay- ASP model. SAP applications may as well be considered
ASP now with all the http://MySAP.com integration they have. Just
becuase we all don't use commerce one's or ariba's software
doesn't mean it is a flawed idea- or bad technology. |
| 2001/2/13 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:20579 Activity:nil |
2/12 We're Windoze weenies running Win2K for web serving, SMTP, and
file serving. We would like to put either OpenBSD or Red Hat
Linux up and slowly migrate services here, including backup.
The argument for OpenBSD is that, as newbies, we're less prone
to suffer for security holes. The argument for Red Hat is that
it's widely supported, and we should learn how to secure it
day by day anyway. When all is said and done, which is
better for our purposes?
\_ I would run OpenBSD for SMTP and file sharing (I'm assuming
you want SAMBA, but if you want NFS, OpenBSD supports v3,
unlike LinSUX). You would probably be better off running
LinSUX for web serving, since you can get nifty cool web
stuff like PHP, ASP (yes M$ ASP is available on Linux,
via a company called ChiliSoft AKA Cobalt AKA Sun), JSP,
Servlets, FrontPage Extensions, etc. to run on LinSUX much
easier than *BSD and Solaris.
If you want a dedicated web serving appliance with LinSUX
take a look at the Cobalt (AKA Sun) RaQ3/4, they are pretty
cheap and do web stuff pretty well (all that nifty web stuff
is pre-installed and configured (except JSP & Servlets) on
the RaQs). |
| 2000/12/12-13 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:20085 Activity:moderate |
12/12 where can i buy a retractible metal baton thru mail order?
\_ http://www.cutleryshoppe.com carries the ASP batons. |
| 2000/11/14-15 [Computer/SW/Graphics, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:19778 Activity:nil |
11/14 Favorite Website:
http://fatchicksinpartyhats.com : 1
http://amihotornot.com : 2
http://theonion.com :
http://google.com :
/.: 1
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~psb : 1
<DEAD>amigothornot.com<DEAD>: 1
\_ <DEAD>www.amigothornot.com/r/?eid=HOE&key=WLFJH<DEAD>
\_ Coming soon: http://www.amigayornot.com
http://www.amigeekornot.com
\_ umm. it's, um, there already.
\_ geek
<DEAD>www.doihavealife.com<DEAD>
<DEAD>www.amithepresidentornot.com<DEAD> |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:19606 Activity:nil |
10/30 22498 www 105 0 572K 504K RUN 39.6H 64.09% 64.09% httpd
What's going on?
\_ I told that streaming VRML porn was a bad idea!
\_ that's just my infinite loop CGI script. -fucker |
| 2000/10/30-31 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:19599 Activity:moderate |
10/29 Lets say I want to schedule a meeting with 30 people, not all of which
use something like Outlook. Is there a cgi script or whatever that will
let people just plug in their preferred times on a web page and have
the tool pick the best time?
\ http://evite.com
\_ http://evite.com
\_ No. Evite does not let your guests select which times
they are free and then calculate the best time.
\_ Also, evite sells that database of your friend's email
addresses to spammers. What kind of friend does that?
\_ zaplets are pretty useful. Let's you schedule meetings through
html/javascript in an email... automatically updates your email
and lets you know when things change. <DEAD>www.firedrop.com<DEAD> (new name) |
| 2000/8/15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:18990 Activity:very high |
8/14 Reviews of WebLogic?
\_it's good but also check out iPlanet, IBM's Websphere,
and ATG's Dynamo. These are good too.
\_ WebSphere Must DIE
\_ Don't bother with iPlanet and Websphere if you want EJB 1.1
It is either WebLogic or Inprise (first tier) or
Silverstream and similar crap.
Orion/JBoss/Enhydra/whatever (second tier). Avoid PowerTier
Silverstream and similar crap. If you just want servlets
there are plenty of servlet containers out there besides
WebLogic.
\_ yee haa!!!
\_ A++.
\_ valuation++
\_ don't even consider anything else.
\_
\_ BLEAH! --sysadmin who has to deal with the aftermath everyday
\_ don't listen to what the sysadmin says.
\_ Yeah, we just have to keep the shit running after you're
done coding for it, so when the black box dies and the
site is down for 72 hours while you're trying to get
emergency tech support from BEA, you'll remember to listen
to the sysadmin next time. Typical coder monkey wearing
blinders on the highway.
\_ Ugh it's a process on a box that can't run away
with memory and if the application sucks, it's
really not up to the admin to deal with it.
\_ Let's see, it dies on it's own, it won't serve
but still answers the weblogic port, the cluster
code is a total cluster fuck, so to speak, and
the load balancing plugin for iplanet is total
garbage my dog could have written better in his
sleep in VB. Any questions? And oh yeah,
where'd you get the idea it isn't a sysadmin
problem if the site crashes? I want a job at
your company. -sysadmin
\_ Umm, I am a sysadmin and now i'm worried, is it really more
difficult to support than, say, DYNAMO? more buggy, etc? -top
\_ Haven't touch dynamo so I can't compare but I can assure
you that weblogic sucks, that $17,000/cpu license sucks,
that the license prices are going up soon sucks, and that
my company is switching off weblogic ASAP. That part
doesn't suck. -sysadmin
\_ What are you using instead? |
| 2000/8/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:18958 Activity:moderate |
8/10 Does it really make sense that JSP / HTML / web weenies get paid
more than core developers? It just doesn't make sense.
\_ They usually don't. If they do, you have every right to
walk down to your HR/middle-manager's office and smack them
around. What gives you the right? Tell them the soda users
told you to do it.
\_ Do you mean "they don't really make sense" or "they don't get
paid more"?
\_ What do you mean by "Do you mean...?" Are you talking
dollars or sense?
\_ The job market gives you that right. Polish resume and walk. You
work for stupid people. If you stay then _they_ aren't the stupid
ones.... |
| 2000/7/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18662 Activity:kinda low |
7/13 How can I redirect a web page to another page automatically on
loading? I've checked lots of HTML guides and have seen this
happen before (no CGI) but can't find the code
\_ In <HEAD> section:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="0; URL=<DEAD>new-url/"<DEAD>
Change 0 to N to delay by N seconds. This is a means of
mimicking HTTP headers in HTML, and is not 2.0-standard, so
may not be supported by some of the oldest browsers. Anything '96
and up is more or less guaranteed to support it. -alexf
\_ thanks!
\_ You're better off with a server side redirect but meta-
refresh will work if you're stuck on geocities or some
other garbage site. |
| 2000/7/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:18589 Activity:moderate 64%like:18584 |
7/5 Anybody understand today's dilbert? I don't know what a "loofah" is.
The dictionary meaning doesn't make sense to me in the context of the
strip.
r/4 M$ Word question: I want to create two columns in a Word
document and be able to paste in only side of the text
and still be able to type in the other. Eg;
text comment
text comment
text comment
-MS doofus
\_ make a table. -tom
\_ I could do that, but if I want to paste an entire text
I would have to clip and paste paragrpah by paragraph. Tedious
but do able. -MS D
\_ uh, what are you talking about? you click in the cell,
and paste the whole text. I just tried it, it works. -tom
\_ um...I think he wants to paste into an entire column,
not just one cell in a column.
\_ if the stuff is in an Excel spreadsheet it will
do that. -tom
\_ um... Format>Columns? Or is that too easy?
\_ learn MS Word Basic scripting language
\_ How many times do i need to repeat this answer for all M$ questions:
Download to UNIX machine. Create document columns.
Upload to windows and import into M$ Word.
\_ And to save some dufus the trouble of putting this, i'll go
ahead and put: "But that's not easy for the Windows people
in my office to use"
\_ To which I'll go ahead and reply: "spend the 45 seconds
and make a CGI out of it"
\_ And then I have to support a friggin CGI and host forever.
To which I say, "No fucking thanks!"
\_ uh, if you don't want to support it, you don't have to.
\_ ratbert's offering to be used as a scrubbing sponge. -goetz
\_ Figures, goetz is the only one here who can understand English.
\_loofah is actually Latin, derived from luffa.
\_ in a manner of speaking. it's a 19th-century neologism.
\_ "loofah" is a type of sponge -- it is actually the dried fiber
of a squash-like fruit/vegetable. --chris
\_ Hello Mrs. English Major, Self-Righteous Bitch |
| 2000/7/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:18581 Activity:nil |
7/3 How does one tell a browser to use a specified stylesheet with a given
xml doc? I use <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xml" href="./style.xsl"?>
but my browser (IE) still displays it in the default xml-only format.
Does using a stylesheet require a DTD?
\_ No, IE is just very finicky about your stylesheet and has poor
error reporting- if your xsl is bad, it just won't display
anything. You have to specify the correct names space, and
(probably) include some default templates to match for stuff
that you otherwise wouldn't bother accounting for, for example:
<xsl:template match="text()|@*">
<xsl:value-of select="."/>
</xsl:template>
see also
http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/updates/14.html#Default
http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/updates/14.html#Overview |
| 2000/5/9-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18219 Activity:nil |
5/8 Is there a Visual Basic equivalent to the UNIX system() function?
\_ ShellExecute or CreateProcess - chiapet
\_ Shell (command, windowmode)
\_ Thanks. Shell seems decent. Is there any way for Shell
to return the output to VB?
\_ Redirect the output to a file and then have VB code read the
file? -- yuen
\_ Yeah, I thought of that, but I was hoping there was
a cleaner way.
\_ Under windows??? pshaw!
\_ There isn't. If you want you can use that Win32 function
that generates a unique filename. |
| 2000/5/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18166 Activity:high |
4/33 My brother is a MCSE looking for a job in the LA area. Anybody
know of a good contracting agency in LA? He's looking for an
entry level NT admin position. Thanks.
\_ I love how people think that these certifications actually
mean anything. "ooooh. He's Microsoft certified. He must
be competent."
\_ Good Sodan, you are preaching to the choir.
\_ I assume you mean LA as in Los Angeles rather than LA as in
Louisiana?
\_ Yes, (s)he really means the Lousiana area ...
\_ Duh? Spent more than a week in California?
\_ giggle.
\_ tee hee.
\_ wow. Cherry Poptart on the motd.
\_ LA sucks. the only ppl who live there are like lame ppl..
oh right, MSCE certified...
\_ help! i'm feeling, like, sooo lame today. but the sucking helps.
\_ email your resume to kinney@csua i hear he's hiring asp/web
ppl.
\_ Whoah. Yu guyz doo ASP. Dats RAD dude. Ware Kan eye ketchup
to da bleeeding edge man? -tjb
\_ Quit defaming his once good name. He can do that himself.
\_ Good name? The day the playboy interview comes out and she
lists "Berkeley Computer Losers" under her 'turn ons' list,
is the day, uhm, uhm, well nothing, it would never happen. |
| 2000/4/28-29 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:18135 Activity:nil |
4/27 For those of you who are graduating (BS/MS/PHP), get $100
certificate from Amazon by filling out the survey at
<DEAD>survey.collegehire.com/survey/selectpage.html<DEAD>
(You can get more if you refer)
If you are not on collegehire's master graduating list, you will
need to send in a resume + transcript to prove your eligibility.
-YC (who filled out the form and then found out about the proof
of status thingy)
\_ It's a trick! Don't do it! |
| 2000/4/7-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17955 Activity:moderate |
4/7 Looking for web discussion/bulletin board software. Suggestions?
\_ ed /etc/motd.public
\_ php Phorum http://php.net - tpc
\_ Source for Slashdot-style web boards is available --oj
\_ Phorum http://php.net - tpc
\_ <DEAD>www.ezboard.com<DEAD> may do the trick. |
| 2000/4/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17922 Activity:nil |
4/5 apache running on RedHat 6.1, CGI works and i'm trying to get
a personal user cgi-bin set up. Put it in the CONF file exactly
like the original CGI was set up, restarted httpd. Doesn't work.
i.e. when you attempt to access the cgi file it just pops up as text.
The EXACT same file works in the regular cgi-bin. It is world r-x.
(and directory is world x) Help.
\_ Is it the default configuration? You probably need to turn on
Options ExecCGI
for the directory in question. And there are ways to configure
all files ending in .cgi to be considered cgi. --oj
\_ Yeah, the config entry is...
<Directory /home/cricket/public_html/cricket>
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
</Directory>
(Allowing all .cgi files seems like a security problem).
\_ use suexec, don't just allow user CGI. -tom |
| 2000/3/30-31 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/HW] UID:17894 Activity:moderate |
3/30 I want to use jsp on a production server, there are several
implementations, does anyone have any recommendations?
\_ IBM WebSphere. Its one disadvantage is that it doesn't support
jdk 1.2.
\_ We use Netscape Enterprise Server 4.0 SP3 on Solaris and handle
about 30M hits a month using JSP and servlets. But then again,
I work for Netscape/AOL so we have to use it. -atom
\_ what about opensource versions?
\_ what about apache modules? -not that level of production
\_ Bea Weblogic is the pretty much the coolest product I've seen.
They support jdk2, and have a clustering server that you can throw
as much hardware at as you want in order to scale. |
| 2000/2/17-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17540 Activity:low |
2/17 What's the best way to learn ASP? What do I need to download?
\_ ASP is *really* hard. I suggest a class.
\_ kidding right? just use javascript/vbscript, wrox books
need IIS 4.0, nt server.. etc.
\_ Any idea what NT Server costs? You mean you're going to
use a pirated copy? You can't mean that.
\_ guess I'm spoiled at work. have NT server
\_ Download option pack, latest service pack, install
IIS, buy ASP book for dummies.
\_ forget it, that is only stuff people with klew like tjb and do
\_ tjb does ASP?! How can I catch up to the bleeding edge?!
\_ ASP can be run with MS Personal Web Server. It's mess to
locate on their site (think it's part of an option pack) but it's
free. The Wrox Beginning ASP book by Brian Francis seems pretty
good. - cathyg |
| 2000/1/27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17347 Activity:low |
1/26 Anyone know of a tool to convert a page using ASP into a page using
JSP (or vice versa)? If so, a pointer would be appreciated.
\_ Our company had to role their own for ASP-to-JSP and JSP-to-ASP.
It's definitely non-trivial, and requires a little manual fixing
afterwards. I searched all over the place, but never found
tools for this. |
| 2000/1/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17232 Activity:nil |
1/12 Is there such thing as jsp-mode in Emacs?
||
(autoload 'html-helper-mode "html-helper-mode" "Yay HTML" t)
(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("\\.jsp$" . html-helper-mode) auto-mode-alist)) |
| 2000/1/4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17157 Activity:nil 76%like:17153 |
1/3 Do most/any ISP's allow you to set up Streaming Video?
recommendations for ISP's that do (bonus if they also have PHP)
Quality, support and ease of set up is more important than cost.
-crebbs
\_ Co-lo. Buy bandwidth, setup unix box. |
| 2000/1/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:17141 Activity:high |
01/01 Paramount's ASP page on next week's voyager says it airs in 1900
http://www.startrekcontinuum.com/brf/quadrant.asp?ssector=VOYupcoming.asp
\_ So what? Are we going to be smothered in an endless stream of
pointless reports of meaningless y2k display glitches on every
www site out there big and small? Let it go.
\_ Not nearly as funny as the US Naval Observatory (supposedly US
official time) showing 19100 [just guessing here -- someone forgot
to RTFM on perl localtime?]
01/01
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| 1999/12/8-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:17026 Activity:nil |
12/7 What is the best FREE search engine cgi script to search a small
to mid size website? and where can I get it? thankx boy/gals.
\_ actually there are probably more boys than gals here...so it's
correct to say boys/gal.
\_ http://www.htdig.org |
| 1999/11/14-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:16873 Activity:nil |
11/13 What is a *.jsp page? Is it one of those M$ asp, in Java?
\_ server side java. It can run on linux machines ... |
| 1999/10/15-17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:29931 Activity:nil |
10/14 I am familiar with JSP/servlets my company is apparently
trying php. Any ideas on the disadvantages of
php or should I just bite the bullet and learn something that may not
even be as good
\_ You should fear the unknown and resist change, so it'll be easier
for a young, fresh, flexible grad to replace you in a year.
\_ You sound biased without any information. How do you know
it's not going to be better? |
| 1999/9/15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:16518 Activity:very high |
9/14 Why has soda's load been so high lately? I can't play games!
\_ too many h0zers!
\_ %0 %0 # run this and your shell will change to /csua/adm/bin/sorry
\_ what does this do?
\_ They should first learn Visual Basic, and then move onto ASP,
and Visual C++.
\_ Everything in here is wrong except the bits about
"what", "play", and "many". |
| 1999/9/14-15 [Computer/SW/Languages/Functional, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:16512 Activity:very high 70%like:16522 |
9/13 I accidentally typed "mal" when I was going to run "mail". What
/csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null do? Thx. -- yuen
\_ Huh huh... he said, "free pussy..."
\_ uh no. he said free cat. reading isn't your strong point is it?
\_ I'm bad!
\_ He's an idiot.
\_ i believe in the power of scheme!
\_ "mal" = "bad" in French
\_ I'm bad!
\_ it's just a stupid shellscript. Read it and figure it out
for yourself (it's harmless)
\_ I just ran it and now I get all these broadcast messages on
my screen. How do I un-do mal? I realize my mesg is y, but
it was y before and I didn't get any broadcast message. -- yuen
\_ what does:
/csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null
do wrt redirection of output?
\_ They should first learn Visual Basic, and then move onto ASP,
interested (or annoyed), then she can pick some fundamentals which
and Visual C++.
\_ dri and dir should also be shell commands...
\_ I'm bad!
\_ it's just a stupid shellscript. Read it and figure it out
for yourself (it's harmless)
|_ type mesg n, wallall -n
\_ To undo "mal": Logout. Never log back in.
\_ man wallall
\_ You need to tell the computer that you definitely want
these messages off. "chsh -s /usr/bin/yes". |
| 1999/6/30-7/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:16039 Activity:kinda low |
6/30 Are cgi-scripts enabled on csua homepages?
\_ Read 'man www'
\_ Where is the man page located? I need to add it onto my
MANPATH...
\_ unsetenv MANPATH and use the default
it will find all you need |
| 1999/1/20-23 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:15263 Activity:kinda low |
1/20 A quick question: how can I create a link in html or javascript
so that whenever user clicks on the link, it will launch an
executable program? One solution I have in mind is to wrap the
executable into an ActiveX control. But is there any other way
I can do it? Otherwise, how can I wrap the executable into a
Active X control? I'm fairly new to ActiveX and VB, any help are
appreciated. -bkong
\_ So do you want a general solution or a windows only solution?
\_ I'd be really scared if this was actually possible to do. Think
of all the webserver based security hacks you could do!
\_ it's totally possible to do. It's also incredibly dangerous.
remember the "Outer-Limits" control that erases your hard
drive and opens your CD-ROM, saying "here's your cup holder"?
No joke. It really happened. It can happen. Courtesy of
MS OLE.
\_ Wrap it inside any CGI program or a servlet. Have your CGI
program or servlet make a system call to the executable. Your
link will just point to the CGI/servlet wrapper.
\_ I'd have to agree. Writing server-side logic is the far superior
solution. Plus with servlets you can whip up a fast little
program. If you have the time, code yer CGI in C. The
NCSA has a bunch of publicly-available CGI libraries, all
in ANSI/ISO C, very sexy. -brain
\_ and these run on the client machine and not the server?
\_ ummm... no. You'll have to use hidden form fields,
Java Applets, or JavaScript to retain state. It
need not be a very large client presence. But
this gets you:
* runnability on older and non-MS browsers
* security
* smaller downloads than ActiveX components
...but if you really need complex things running
(like too big for the client) then you can always
slap some Java IDL or Enterprise Java Beans
technology onto the application. The client gets
downloaded, makes a request to the component on the
server, which does all the work... -brain |
| 1998/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:14940 Activity:high |
11/11 Any recommendations on a good web hosting service? (I already have
dialup connection, just need a larger disk quota, CGI, and
preferably, some mailing list capability.)
\_ Try <DEAD>www.vectro.com<DEAD> - they're pretty competent & very cheap!
\_ http://www.best.com $30. 25MB. shell/pop. cgi. unlimited mailing lists.
multiple aliases. domain name capability. frontpage support. fast.
\_ avoid http://prowebsite.com. my friend had nothing but problems with
them, not the least that half the time she couldn't access her
site. their servers run on SGI IRIX, which may explain it.
\_ http://www.sandwich.net Cheap, reliable, and scalable to your budget.
Quote for the above from best net: $10.30/month for pop, cgi, unix
shell, 25MB quota, full domain name. $5.95/month per mailing list
(with discounts for more than three.) Check it out.
\_ Time travelling? Is it tomorrow yet???????? --xtine
\_ It's been 11/10 all day today (Tuesday).
\_ No; it was 11/11 this morning, then someone edited it to 11/10 |
| 1998/7/2-3 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:14289 Activity:nil |
7/2 Microsoft security flaw. "::$DATA" behind any asp code will
allow you to read source code.
\_ So? What about Microsoft isn't a security flaw? |
| 1998/6/4-8 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:14175 Activity:moderate |
6/4 Anyone have experience with http://best.com as web host provider? Good? Bad? Comparable alternatives? \_ Good. No comparable alternatives. -tom \_<DEAD>www.best.com/boxes/~indian<DEAD> \_ Best experience i've ever had with a web provider. They provide competent and beyond-the-call-of-duty technical support, FAQs, etc. -appel http://www.chaosium.com http://www.glorantha.com \_ I'm using it for two of my web sites (http://www.theil.com and http://www.docmisha.com and would definitely recommend it to other folks. Haven't had such a good experience with their tech support though. -genie \_ I plan on having several CGI scripts. They list a 1000cgi seconds/day. I highly doubt I'll reach that limit, but just so I have a reference, what type of program with how many uses per day would come close to hitting that quota? \_ run your CGI with "time foo.cgi" to see the amount of CPU time it takes. It's basically a non-issue unless you're grabbing nude pictures out of a database. -tom \_ Though wall-clock time on your system and wall-clock time on their system may be rather different. Is it an issue if you're grabbing pictures of clothed people from a DB? :-) \_ You're not charged for wall-clock time, you're charged for CPU time. They run boxes very similar to soda, so CPU time here should be comparable. It is unlikely that you'll get enough hits to matter if you're grabbing pictures of clothed people from a db. -tom |
| 1998/2/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:13707 Activity:high |
2/20 Why have CGI scripts stopped working? Now I am seeing "Premature end
of script header" message in the error.log even though the same script
was unchanged and was working fine just few days ago? Has any
configuration change been implemented on the Web server?
\_ *chuckle*
\_ recompile.
\_ WILL SOMEONE PLEASE FIX .CGI EXECUTION? THANKS. |
| 1998/2/18 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:13690 Activity:high |
2/17 VB rules too much. I am never going back to C++ programming
again. Fuck Java also.
\_ VB sucks so horribly if you have to go beyond what little
it provides
\_ "VB rules" "VB sucks" mmm... intelligent arguing.
\_ Play nice, children.
\_ And it looked so much like you'd be fully recovered after that
massive, traumatic brain injury. A shame. |
| 1998/2/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:13666 Activity:kinda low |
2/13 So what's the new deal with soda webserver? Total quota now = 10MB?
\_ No. Use "quota -v"
cgi works? How--cgi-bin directory, anything called .cgi, etc...?
\_ *.cgi
what else does webserver do? Server-side includes, wrapping, logging?
\_ Yes, no, yes. |
| 1997/3/28 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:32104 Activity:nil |
3/28 Anybody know of any free software that lets you create graphs for html
pages on the fly? e.g. input some data from user and run the cgi
program to create a graph from that.
\_ xgraph |
| 1995/1/5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:31690 Activity:nil |
1/3 Due to security considerations, CGI script execution has been
turned off for general users on www.csua. If you have a CGI
script that you would like to use, send it to www@csua and
it will be placed in a directory for execution. |
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