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2003/8/29-31 [Computer/Networking] UID:10011 Activity:moderate
8/29    How do you connect to the internet when you are travelling?
        (work or vacation)
        \_ i find the nearest university, go into their main library, and
           can usually use the computers there.
        \_ Vacation?  That's what vacation is for.  *Not* connecting to the
           net.  Bring a book.  Not a technical manual.  A real book.  Enjoy.
           \_ The internet has this useful stuff called 'information'.  It's
              often useful to have this 'information' about the place that
        \_ I don't. In fact, I avoid being connected at all when on vacation
        \_ McDonald's parking lot.
           \_ they have wi-fi??
              \_ duh. would you like fries with that?
        \_ For work, I usually make sure that I stay at a place with
           broadband. Barring that I use one of my isp's nationwide
           callin numbers. Usually in foreign countries I just buy a
           short term card that allows for dialup access.
           When I go on vacation I leave my computer behind.
           \_ If I'm on vaction in the states and feel a need for an email
              fix I just drop by a library.  Baring that it is pretty common
              to run into an internet cafe where you can check your email
              for a couple of bucks.
              you're travelling to, especially if you're not a native of the
              area.
2003/8/27 [Computer/Networking] UID:29480 Activity:high
8/26    I get my DSL from SBC (which uses PPPoE), and when I connect the
        DSL modem directly to my freebsd machine it connects fine (using
        /usr/sbin/ppp). But when I go through a Linksys router, to
        share our DSL line with my other roommates, I can't connect
        anymore. Is there something special I have to configure on my
        machine to be able to connect? Thanks.
        \_ I imagine the Linksys router "hides" the PPPoE end of the DSL
           line, i.e., all your computer should care about is turning
           on the DHCP client (any PPPoE thing should be off).
                \_ How do I do that? (I'm a newbie still)
                   \_ I'm a FreeBSD newbie, but I imagine it's "turn off
                      /usr/sbin/ppp" and "turn on the DHCP client".  There
                      should be a FreeBSD FAQ on that.
        \_ 1. Make sure your router is actually doing PPPoE (ie, verify that
              your roommate can connect to the internet.)
           2. dmesg|more and look for your ethernet device, possibly xl0
              or something similar.  Edit /etc/rc.conf and replace any
              ifconfig_xl0 lines with ifconfig_xl0="auto", which will handle
              the dhcp client for you.
           3. If anything goes wrong, mail your friend who helped you set up
              your machine.
                \_ I actually just turned off ppp and then ran dhclient, and
                   everything worked out fine. (except that now I lost my
                   ability to host a webserver since I don't have a real IP
                   anymore).
                   \_ All routers like this I've seen allow you to route ports
                      or port ranges to a specific client behind it.  I run a
                      webserver behind one of these routers just fine.
        \_ My God, they let people like you on the net?  That's shockingly
           dangerous.  Do you make sure to respond to all spam and open all
           attachments from Tiffani?
                \_ My God, the did let me on the net! Are you shocked?
2003/8/26 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29466 Activity:kinda low
8/25    Do people actually verify md5 sums?  I recently ftped a linux
        distribution iso and installed it.  It seems to run fine.  Then
        by chance I run md5sum on the image and the first disk failed.
        Is this just some transmission error or something more sinister?
        \_ freebsd ports do this automatically.  You should probably try
           pulling the image again and rechecking.  it could be truly sinister,
           it could just make your system unstable down the line.  look at it
           as a strong litmus test.
           \_ I already did and the new download passed the check.  I am
                going to reinstall the whole thing.  But if it is the installer
                itself that got corrupted maliciously, should I worry about
                all the partitions of my disks and all the disks that was
                mounted when I did the installation?  That would be really
                too much pain.
                \- based on the strength [sic] of the tcp checksum
                   and the error base rate you can figure out how often
                   you can expect an undetected tranmission error.
                   we made some calculations a few years ago and when you
                   started shoveling gigabytes around you needed to start
                   worrying about these and doing some kind of stronger
                   application level checksumming. lately i havent done any
                   measurements to see if the base error rate has gone down
                   [or up say in wireless or whatever] and what the new
                   expectations might me. however i certainly am not sur-
                   prised to hear large iso or tarballs coming over long
                   paths arrived frayed at the edges. if you are interested
                   in techical details and have a general familarity with
                   tcp, you can mail me. any discussion of this on say
                   NANOG? --psb
                   \_ Google, as a result of their work, keeps track of
                      these numbers. Look up their research.
                      \- oh yeah i remember asking the google folks
                         if they do higher level checks, what chksums
                         they ue etc as the copy around parts of the
                         they use etc as the copy around parts of the
                         cache. do they "publish" these things anywhere?
                                                        --psb
2003/8/26-27 [Computer/Networking] UID:29464 Activity:high
8/26    I've ended up with two dsl lines at my house till the
        end of the year or so. I would like to run some sort
        of routing protocol so that I can maximize my bandwidth
        by using both lines. I'm not sure how to go about setting
        this up, any pointers/ideas? I'm running *bsd if that
        makes a difference. tia.
        \_ there are several ways to do this, but I doubt any of these
           features exist on a desktop OS.  You need a router in between
           your PC and the two DSL lines.  Things such as multilink PPP,
           LACP (link aggregation), and other load balancing schemes can
           make use of two physical links.  PBR can work, but it's really
           overkill.  A link layer protocol can do this in a much
           simpler and stable fashion. -cisco guy
        \_ for the most part, not possible unless you do some very
           fancy policy based routing... not worth the trouble.
           \_ Okay, would it be possible to say just route vpn
              traffic on one dsl line and http/ftp traffic on
              the other?
              \_ and make life, support and debugging a living hell?
                 What if one DSL line goes down? Nevermind the fact
                 that you are probably going to get fired by your
                 company for compromising their vpn/intranet
                 And you're going to go thru the effort to set that
                 up and use it for 3 whole months?
                 Besides, why did you let SBC/PacBell screw you like that?
                 \_ why would my having two dsl lines compromise
                    my company's security? (I own both the lines
                    an neither is directly connected to my company
                    except when I have a vpn up)
                    \_ Because you are trying to set up a split tunnel VPN
                       I am assuming you are doing that because you are
                       bright. If you are doing it for some other reason
                       they you really have a chance to get into trouble.
                        \_ I guess I should clarify. I have one machine
                           with multiple outbound connections. It acts
                           as a firewall/router for the other systems
                           at my house. It doesn't (and can't) run the
                           vpn software. What I want to do is to have
                           this machine route all the ipsec traffic
                           from my other machines out one interface
                           and route all the other traffic out the other
                           interface. When the other machines are using
                           a vpn they run in full tunnel mode so I don't
                           have to worry about debugging problems from
                           using a split tunnel.
                           I know the quick and dirty way to do this is
                           to use a bunch of static routes but I wanted
                           to see if there was some way that I could get
                           around using static routes and just route
                           pkts based on whether or not they were ipsec
                           encapsulated or not.
              \_ Sure, no problem.  Ignore the nay sayers.  They have different
                 IPs so assign a different domain or hostname, etc to each one.
                 Changing DNS later is trivial.  You won't get fired anymore
                 than you would have doing what you're doing on one line.
                 Apache, sshd, and many other common servers can be told to
                 only listen on a particular ip/port.  Unless you've got huge
                 traffic on some service you won't notice the difference but
                 it's a good learning experience.
                 \_ okay.. explain this some more then. what you're describing
                    still requires policy based routing to work. the machine
                    may set the outbound ip to one on the second dsl line
                    but it will still at least try to go out the first line
                    since that is the default route. on top of that, the
                    isp of the first line may drop the outbound packet since
                    it's not one of their own. -shac
                    \_ Static route to vpn server.  It's the only place he
                       wants that line to go.  You can call that 'policy
                       based' routing if you like.  I'm not going to quibble
                       over terminology.
2003/8/25 [Computer/Networking] UID:29456 Activity:kinda low
8/24    Comcast is DOA.  DSL rules!
        \_ Hmm.. I still feel like I'm online....
2003/8/23-25 [Computer/Networking] UID:29449 Activity:high
8/23    Anybody know of a computer dial up number. I just want to test my modem.
        \_ go to a random isp's home page and look up their local access
           numbers.
           \_ Thanks, good idea. BTW, did eecs discontinue the annex
              modem pool numbers -op
              \_ a long long time ago.
                 \_ Wow. For some reason, that makes me feel old.
                    What about the <DEAD>hip.berkeley.edu<DEAD> accounts? (Home-IP/PPP)
                    \_ they started charging for them this semester. i.e.,
                       they're as good as dead too. jk. actually, they're an
                       OK deal i guess. $20/semester.
                        \_ Can I get one as a CSUA member and Cal alumni?
                        \_ Can I get one as a CSUA member and Cal alumnus?
                           \_ #f
                              \_ ?
                                 \_ I see they got rid of Scheme from the CS
                                    courses, too. -- "Wow" poster
                                    \_ I'm not CS, my major was ME.
                                       so what is the #f  -- ?guy
                                       \_ false. #t means true. http://csua.org/u/40p
2003/8/13 [Computer/Networking] UID:29330 Activity:nil
8/11    Interesting news blip - McDonald's offers free WiFi in select
        restaurants in the Bay Area, New York, and Chicago through the
        month of August.  For locations:
        http://www.mcdwireless.com/locations/MCDw_loc_SF.html
        \_ Why would anyone want to compute or spend any additional time
           in such a noisy and unclean place as McDonald's is beyond me.
           Specially, considering lots of coffee shops are considering getting
           WiFi too.
           \_ TMobile offers WiFi now in select locations... I think they
              are partnering with Starbucks and Borders.
2003/8/10-12 [Computer/Networking] UID:29300 Activity:moderate
8/10    Does anyone know how to force Win2k to use shared WEP authentication
        instead of open auth? WinXP has a control panel to enable this, but
        I can't seem to find the Win2k equiv.
        \_ Check the card settings (control panel->network connections->
           whatever card->properties->card configuration near the top.)  If
           that doesn't do it, I've seen manufacturer card tools take care
           of dealing with encryption options (Cisco, Linksys, Netgear and
           Lucent all have their own software that comes with the drivers.)
           Check the manufacturer page for downloads.  -John
        \_ WEP is only to protect the privacy of your connection, right?  Is
           there a way to allow only certain users to connect to your wireless
           access point?  If someone gets a hold of the WEP password, they can
           share that with anyone, and anyone can get access, right?  How can
           a wireless access point be configured to allow access to only
           people you want?
                \_ PPPoE or something like that.  You can also use the
                   network name in 'closed' mode (i.e. non-broadcasting),
                   although if you want serious security, you will run ipsec
                   over your wireless links.  -John
                \_ Some wireless APs will do MAC address or other filtering
                   but that's still not real security.
2003/8/8 [Computer/Networking] UID:29281 Activity:nil
8/7     What brand of 802.11b wireless router can provision (grant access) to
        specific MAC addresses?  Do ISPs get mad if you resell their service?
2003/8/5 [Computer/Networking] UID:29236 Activity:nil
8/4     I am a cheap bastard who knows RF, but doesn't know jack about DSL.
        What exactly is a dsl filter?  what rolloff frequency is needed?
        can i just make a rc filter or pi filter with a pair of modular jacks,
        or is it an active filter of some kind? i already stfw'd and all anyone
        wants to tell me is where to buy one.
        \_ What are you trying to do?
           \_ I think he's trying to steal DSL off his phone line or something
              like that and his time has zero value but I'm just guessing.
              Think of Qusay's children!
              \_ no, i'm paying for dsl, and already have one filter for
                 my phone.  i just want another filter for my other phone
                 so it doesn't interfere with the dsl or cause odd noises
                 on the line.  given that i spend alot of time making rf
                 filters anyway, this filter might well take me ten minutes
                 to build if i know what frequency i'm trying to filter.
                 since a new filter is about 15 dollars, i would have to
                 value my time at 90 dollars an hour for it to not be worth
                 my time to make the filter. since i'm a grad student, my
                 time is worth considerably less than that.
                 \_ but you've already spent more than that time Sing the FW
                    and typing stuff on motd. and since you already "know RF"
                    you aren't even learning anything.
                 \_ Doesn't SBC give you like 3-4 of the filters anyway?
                    I seem to recall having many extras, send me an email
                    if you're local to Berkeley and I'll bring one in - mds
2003/8/5 [Computer/Networking] UID:29232 Activity:very high
8/4     To follow up my post a few days back, 3com says the 3CRPAG17 is the
        only 802.11g card on the market with a retractable antenna. (patents)
        Unfortunately, this card uses a new 3com propriatary chipset, the
        name of which isn't available until the card starts shipping at the
        end of August. No Linux drivers will ship with it. She said linux, BSD
        and OSX drivers will all probably come out later. I'll wait.
        \_ Of course *nix drivers won't ship on day 1 on a brand new product.
           \_ Someday that will change.
              \_ You mean they won't ship at all?
                  \_ Yeah, clearly Linux and BSD are going nowhere.
                     Windows is the best OS.  Just ask the virus writers.
                     \_ Just living out here in the real world.  'Best' in
                        what way?  Viruses or no, it's what sells.  It's what
                        they make drivers for first and always.  Any other OS
                        and you're waiting, maybe forever or rolling the dice.
                        When your mom is running *nix at home and your work-
                        place converts the recptionist, HR, and finance to it,
                        lemme know.
                        \_ my mom's linksys router runs linux.
                        \_ i run on your mom, and i run linux. does that count?
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2003/8/2-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:29217 Activity:moderate
8/1     Any recommendations for an excellent 802.11 cardbus card for linux?
        \_ Netgear MA-401.  Works perfectly on FreeBSD w/ my dell laptop.
            \_ Thanks.
               \_ Oh yeah, if you order before early September (I think)
                  from http://NewEgg.com there's a $10 rebate.
                   \_ Cool, thanks again.
            \_ That card is 802.11b. Any recommendations for 802.11g,
               or is "g"  overkill or not standardized yet or something?
                \_ Linksys 54G is ok--the one I have came out before the
                   standard was finalized, and FreeBSD <5.0 doesn't support
                   the card.  -John
                   \_ Does the antenna detach from the card w/o taking the card
                      out of the PCMCIA slot?
               \_ go g if you can afford it. it's backwards compatible and
                  will be much faster when it becomes standard. of course,
                  if you just have dsl and use the wireless in your home or
                  in internet cafe's, any speed above 100KB/s is not needed.
                  \_ Who has only 100kb/sec on their broadband?
                     \_ He said 100KB/s, not kb.  But a large portion of the
                        dsl lines get ~150KB/s.
           \_ Does any companies other than 3com make a 802.11g CardBus
              card with a retractable antenna? I can't find any info on
              Linux drivers for the 3CRPAG175
           \_ I get cruddy reception with both of my MA-401.  The built-in
              on my laptop gets better receptions.
2003/7/28-29 [Computer/Networking] UID:29160 Activity:high
7/28    I currently have a standard SBC DSL for 49.95/month.  Their site lists
        this has 384K-1.5M download.  I'm thinking of upgrading to their 59.95
        package that claims 576 - 1.5M download.  Anybody done this switch?
        I'm thinking if this is a gimmick or they can really guarantee that
        speed.  DSL speed depends on distance from CO.  If they can suddenly
        crank up my speed, that means that they're currently putting caps
        on my bandwidth?   I'm trying to avoid switching and then not seeing
        a difference and have to spend a lot of time trying to switch back.
        Thanks.
        \_ dump SBC and go with http://speakeasy.net.
        \_ heck, at work we get 4 Mbps easy.  It's upload that's the problem.
           of course we pay work prices, ~ $150/month.
        \_ Sucka. SBC DSL is $29.95/month
           \_ ???
        \_ their 1.5M/256k "deluxe" service is $39.95 with 12-month
           contract.  i think the offer ends 9/30 or something.  basically
           $20 off any service plan w/ 12-month commitment.  speed is
           a tiny bit slower than my old comcast cable service, but
           i am happy to be shed of the comcast "thou shalt also
           subscribe to our cable tv or be fuxxored" policy.
           \_ What about current customers? --dim
        \_ The switch doesn't work in all cases. If they can't find
           an open circuit in your co that meets the distance req.
           they will tell you that you can't be upgraded.
           \_ This whole broadband thing is still a really immature technology.
              One day you'll get data service the same as phone service and
              none of this BS about how far you are from the CO or open
              circuits or different speed charges, etc.  It'll just work.
              Until then this whole thing is a big hack.
                \_ This whole politics thing is a really immature society.
                   One day, you'll get world peace and equitable allocation
                   of scarce resources, with none of this nonsense about
                   nationalism or different ethnicity.  People will all just
                   get along.  Until then, this whole thing is a big hack.
                   \_ Network bandwidth will continue growing until it becomes
                      truly ubiquitous.  Clean water, food, and land will not
                      until we can easily leave this planet or a few billion
                      people get wiped out quick and clean.
                      \_ Electricity will be too cheap to meter! This was the
                         slogan of the nuclear power industry 40 years ago.
                         \_ Maybe you missed the part where we haven't built a
                            new reactor in decades?
                            \_ Maybe you missed the point.
           \_ This whole dating thing is still a really immature sociology.
              One day you'll get date service the same as sexual service and
              none of this BS about how far you are from third base or open
              relationships or different STDs, etc.  People will just screw.
              Until then this whole thing is a big hack.
2003/7/16 [Computer/Networking] UID:29057 Activity:nil
7/15    What's the PDA of choice these days? Looking for ones that include
        WiFi (or at least expandable to WiFi).
        \_ tungsten T has bluetooth.. tungsten C has 802.11b but no bluetooth
           ipaq 5400's and 5500's have both 802.11b and bluetooth built in
           and any PDA w/ a compactflash slot can have any of those as an
           expansion card (or even SDIO)
        \_ do you mean bluetooth or are there 802.11b/g pdas out now?
           \_ 802.11b. I know the Palm Tungsten/C has integrated 802.11b, but
              what about others?
        \_ Still using palm v.  works great.
           \_ still using Handspring Visor Platnium.  quite a rugged device.
2003/7/2 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:28895 Activity:kinda low
7/2     Ugh!  I am seeing lots of CMD.EXE and net.exe processes on my w2k PC.
        Has it been commpromised?
        \_ nimda?  Run netstat -an to see where all your connections are
           going.
        \_ nimda?  Run netstat -an to see where all your connections are going.
           \_ Crap my netstat got deleted.  Replaced.  Ugh!  I think they are
              using my computer to launch DoS port 445 attacks.
        \_ try one of the freebie/demo virus scanners.
2003/6/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28794 Activity:low
6/20    Is there any software that allows a voice modem to screen phone calls
        and act like an internet accessable answering machine?
        \_ You can buy gizmos that do it.  Never heard of freeware that turns
           your v90 into one.
2003/6/18 [Computer/Networking, Computer/HW/IO] UID:28755 Activity:high
6/17    Is switching to Dvorak worth it?  And, how is it for programming?
        \_ I've read one article (in 160 I believe) that said that
           it really doesn't improve typing speed that much.  Some friends
           switched to it and liked it, but also noted that their
           typing speed on QWERTY slowed dramatically.
        \_ I did it for about a year, and the benefits/drawbacks were so
           minimal that I reverted simply because it was a pain to switch
           the layouts when someone else wanted to use the computer.
           This was mainly an essay-writing time though, not coding.
        \_ don't forget about keyboard shortcuts.
        \_ switching was the most painful process, it was like learning
           typing all over again. However, it's really worth it. I use
           Kinesis Dvorak keyboard, it's a great combo. My emacs pinky
           stopped hurting after using it.
           \_ you should have just stopped using emacs
              \_ ED!
                 \_ my ED finger hurts.
2003/6/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:28719 Activity:high
6/12    God damn it!  My dsl was down all day yesterday, came back up for
        about 7 hours in the evening, and when down again early this morning.
        Anybody else having dsl problems in the area?
        \_ It might help if you said who your provider was, and what area.
        \_ Last night I did. Don't know about this morning. earthlink
        \_ SBC in SF: no problems.
        \_ anybody using resellers of WorldCom?  I'm using Cyberonic, who's
           a reseller of WorldCom. -op
           \_ you have that 1500 down/768 up deal?  how is it, apart from
        \_ DSLExtereme is cheap and good.
        \_ Yes.  I spoke with my provider (rawbandwidth.com) and he said
           that Pac Bell is making changes to the system this month.
              outage yesterday?
              \_ Their tech support's kinda poor.  Limited support hours, no
                 reverse DNS option, and no "official" news server.  But
                 other than that, it's pretty decent.
        \_ cable modem.  solid.
           \_ i had daily outage 7pm to 9pm on comcast, until i switched
              provider a month ago.
              \_ AT&T, ex-@home, solid.
        \_ I have Speakeasy, they rule and I've only had one 3-hour outage
           in the whole two years I've been a customer. You pay more but
           the service is great and they are technically skilled. --aaron
        \_ non-sequitur:  I just got back from Japan, where they're
           offering 8Mbps ADSL for home use for ~$40 per month, and
           no set up charge.
           \_ Cool, if only I could afford the $50k/month it would take to
              live the same lifestyle there that I have here.
              \_ actually, Tokyo and SF have very similar Cost of Living
                 stats.  and if you're willing to move to rural Japan,
                 the prices are much better.
                 \_ Oh really?  So I can buy a house in Tokyo's suburbs 45
                    minutes door-to-door from work for $1750/month in mortgage
                    payments?  4BR/3BA with a yard?  I think not.
                        \_ you can't get that in SF either
                           \_ Sure you can, if you don't mind dodging bullets.
                    \_ Well, one, you're not likely to find a house with an
                       American-style yard anywhere near a city in Japan,
                       so that's out. Two, if you mean by train, sure, you
                       can find some pretty good deals forty-five minutes
                       from downtown Tokyo.  Three, how does it feel to
                       have a 40-year mortgage, or did you get in early?
                    \_ FYI, phrases like "I think not" make you sound like
                       an asshole.
2003/6/7 [Computer/Networking] UID:28662 Activity:nil
6/6     where can I find ebook text like the Steven's tcp/ip posted
        last time?  Kazza?
2003/6/3-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:28610 Activity:high
6/2     Are you having trouble with Comcast?  Some sites connect fine but
        others show 50% packet loss, but the iPs keep changing and are weird
        (eg, OK to berkeley machine 1, but not to machine 2), please
        contact me, -nweaver
        \_ I'm in San Mateo, and I have been seeing dailing outage during the
        \_ I'm in San Mateo, and I have been seeing daily outage during the
           peak hours of later afternoon to evening.  Total outage for me
           though, not limited to hopping addresses as you.  Your behavior
           is *bizarre*.
        \_ you deserve what you get paying for a service from a bloated,
           corrupt assmaster company like comcast.
           \_ Yeah and there's better huh?  Like AT&T or Pacbell or yeah.
              \_ Don't be mocking our free market!  If people wanted
                 reliable internet service, the free market says that
                 someone will step in to fulfill that demand.  Obviously
                 people only want crappy service.
            \_ i've only noticed my dsl connection with speakeasy
                being down once in about a year, and they warned me
                about that one in advance. -crebbs
                 \_ do you understand the huge barrier to entry ?  The telcos
                    and cable co's have pretty much shut everyone else out.
                    \_ This is sort of the person's point.  The free market
                       proselytizors (on the supply side, mostly) rarely will
                       mention barrier to entry.  Yet somehow, even in these
                       difficult to enter markets, we still get massive pushes
                       for deregulation.  It's the big lie of the free market.
                       See any clear discussion on campaign finance reform
                       for more.
                       \_ it isn't a free market.  it's massively regulated.
                          competitors *aren't allowed* to enter the markets
                          by law.  thank you for playing.
            \_ i've only noticed my dsl connection with speakeasy being
               down once in about a year, and they warned me about that one
               in advance. (though i have a business idsl line, maybe those
               are better)  -crebbs
2003/6/2-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:28607 Activity:very high
6/1     Some idiot where I work brought in a netgear router and plugged it in
        and broke DHCP for a whole bunch of buildings. Is there a way to
        prevent idiots from breaking DHCP? I know that win2k has some domain
        authentication BS, but not all our hosts are running win2k.
        \_ fire the idiot.  most problems are much more easily fixed with
           social engineering than some halfassed 'technical solution'.
           \_ The idiot is the Dean of Students. I work at a high school.
              If we had all managed switches, I could have found him easily,
              but we have a lot of old infrastructure, so I could only nail
              it down to the bulding.
           \_ Let me also add that this idiot also starts blaming others,
              saying that he had that router for over a year and that we must
              have changed our configs or something... so if anyone were to
              get fired, it would probably be me before him... so social
              techniques don't really work here. What I'd really like is for
              there to be a memo saying that you *can* get suspended/fired for
              \_ If the people in charge lie and do stupid things, there's
                 little you can do.  Leave at the first opportunity.
                 \_ I really enjoy my job. I just try and ignore stupid lying
                    and politics (that's hard to do).
                    \_ You're going to get canned eventually as the fall guy.
                       \_ Indeed.  And surely this may cut into the enjoyment
                          of your job a bit, no?
        \_ tech. suppot at my old job used to do stuff like this all the time.
           even worse they SPECIFICALLY AND WITH INTENT, SET UP A DHCP server
           The help-desk people would get all bent out of shape, like those
           above, but, come-on, you can't fire a person every time they do
           something stupid, else you would have to fire damn near everyone.
           (The same help-desk people were constantly bringing the network to
            a crawl by Ghosting images over it, even though the computers they
            were ghosting to were in the same room as the ghost server).
           \_ Sure you can.  Let's start with rule #1: do not plug any
              device into the network.  or you're fired.  simple, see?
              Rule #2: always ghost over a private network or use a
              cross over cable between the two hosts.  or you're fired.  works
              like a charm.  it's simple, elegant, even a moron could follow
              the rule.  or get fired.
                \_ Rule #3, IT people are a lot less important than they
                   think they are, now shut up and get back to work and
                   drinking diet coke you fatass.
                   \_ sadly, agree.  Tech people's social status is about
                      the same as plumber.
                      \_ Highly subjective.  What size company?  What type
                         company?  Product-based?  Service-based?  At my
                         company, tech is rightly seen as the engine, and
                         techies are treated very well.
                         \_ what is the name of your company again??
                   \_ everyone is less important than they think they are.  IT
                      people aren't special in this regard.  was there some
                      sort of point you were trying to make or were you just
                      trying to look tough to yermom on the motd?
2003/5/30-31 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28581 Activity:kinda low
5/29    Has anyone here tried Digital Path for internet?
        \_ I always use digital paths for my internet.  Analog internet is so
           300 baud.
           \_ Perhaps he meant http://DigitalPath.net?
        \_ Stupid wannabee funny comments deleted.
           \_ Dick.  As if the comments prevented anyone from giving a real
              answer.  There's still no real answer and just your dumb ass
              deleting something funny and replacing it with... well, your
              dumb ass saying nothing.
2003/5/23 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:28532 Activity:moderate
5/22    When I was learning the basics of the network, I have always thought
        that one IP address per NIC card.  For machine that has multiple
        NIC, it is essentially a router... But the other day, my company's
        system admin just done something i don't quite understand: he
        assigned multiple IP to a computer (running windozes) which only
        have one NIC.  Can someone explain to me how does that work?
        Thanks
        \_ They're just aliases.  The NIC can listen for and respond to
           multiple IPs.  Most modern OS's can do this.  No magic.
           \_ or it can be multiple virtual sub-ints..
              \_ this is where i don't understand... where can I find out
                 more?
                 \_ 'man ifconfig' is a place to start.  -John
                 \_ STFW
        \_ Given that you have multiple web sites which resolve to
           different IPs in your subnet, you could host them all on one
           Windows computer, assigning one NIC the different IPs of your
           web sites.  (this is just one way to do it ...)
2003/5/22-23 [Computer/Networking] UID:28524 Activity:high
5/22    To people with TCP/IP clue: A friend of mine has a wireless router
        at home (D-Link's DI-614+, but there doesn't seem to be much in
        the way of useful model-specific docs around of any but the "here's
        how you click a button" kind). The thing comes with a built-in
        capability for firewalling, "virtual server" (i.e. port forwarding to
        a specific LAN machine, set up by port number on the external
        interface), etc. At the moment, we can't get traceroute (from local
        machines to the outside world) to work whatsoever; it shows the first
        hop to the router, and doesn't give anything past that. I've tried
        allowing all ICMP&UDP traffic in both directions, but to no avail.
        Presumably I don't understand the traceroute mechanism
        well enough, and am missing something. Any suggestions?
        \_ I had this problem with an SMC router. I have reported this to the
           manufacturer. Later, they have come up with a firmware that fixed
           this problem. Lots of those home broadband routers have very lousy
           TCP/IP implementations, so the problems like this are expected to
           pop up all the time.
           \_ That's, err, good to know I suppose. I'll try that route,
              thanks. -op (other advice still solicited though)
        \_ Not an expert, but I believe traceroute is simply a series of pings
           with a timeout short but increasing timeout-- so you ping http://yahoo.com,
           and router1 responds but router2 does not because the timeout has
           elapsed.  For the second ping, you increase the timeout so router2
           replies but not router3.  And so on.  Short answer is that your fw
           is most likely preventing the ICMP echo from getting back to your
           PC.
           \_ you're right...you're not an expert.
                \_ hello cranky asshole router guy!
                   \_ CARG does have a point, he indicated that ICMPs are
                   \_ CARG does have a point, op indicated that ICMPs are
                      allowed to pass through, which implies that he has more
                      clue than I thought he did.  I just didn't read his post
                      all the way through and gave him the handwavy traceroute
                      explanation that wasn't very helpful. -- nae
                        \_ it's also inaccurate; traceroute is not a series
                           of pings.  -CARG
                           \_ it is for some m$ implementations, i hear. -op
           \_ timeout or ttl (time to live) based on number of hops
           \_ That's just the micro$oft "tracert" implementation (or rather,
              a distorted account thereof); most others use UDP. But in any
              case, see below; this is probably not the problem. -op
        \_ The default setting on the router is probably to filter ICMP
           echos.
           \_ Yes, but I'm fairly certain I put in a firewall rule to allow
              all ICMP traffic in both directions. -op
        \_ In the Advanced->Filters menu, try setting ICMP type 11 to always
                                                      oops, 8 _/
           In the Advanced->Firewall menu, set to allow all ICMP types
           \_ WHOOPS. Upon noticing the ICMP option missing in the "Filters"
              dialog's "protocols" dropdown, I found out I'm several firmware
              updates behind. However, the latest firmware update, even though
              labelled "fixes traceroute issue" on D-Link's site, still
              has no ICMP option there and traceroute is still not working. -op
           \- hello has anyone seen the following "traceroute problem":
              on a couple of solaris boxes, all of a sudden something
              weird happens to the tcpstack and it never sends ICMP Port
              UnRchables back to you? So any udp traffic is silently
              absorbed if there is no application to fwd it to? ok tnx --psb
        \_ Look for your answer on http://broadbandreports.com.
2003/5/22 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/Networking] UID:28516 Activity:high 76%like:28523
5/21    Brian Harvey on NYTimes
        http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/22/technology/circuits/22comp.html
        "Computing's Lost Allure"
        \_ Great, the leftish liars talk to the leftist propagandists.
        \_ what's the deal with those random pictures?
           \_ Walk into an undergrad CS class:  I see Asian people.
        \_ Good.  The market is oversaturated anyway.
           \- hello wouldnt some large fraction of the enrollment difference
              be explained by on-sequence/off-sequence semesters? ok tnx--psb
              \_ don't ask questions. statistics never lie
        \_ I see yellow people!
           \_ orientals don't work with cable modem.
        \_ good.  CS departments don't need all those wanna-be code monkeys.
2003/5/12-14 [Computer/Networking] UID:28415 Activity:low
5/12    I'm doing some structured wiring for my home.  I have only been
        able to find composite cables that contain 2 cat-5 and 2 coax into
        a single cable.  I can't seem to find one that contains 3 cat-5 and
        2 coax.  Anybody done this before and have found a vendor with such
        a cable?  Thanks.
        \_ This doesn't actually answer your question, but when I have some
           random cable problem, i check l-com first. they have lots of stuff.
        \_ There are plenty of companies that make custom cables at reasonable
           rates/foot if your exact cable needs aren't available.
2003/5/6 [Computer/Networking] UID:28343 Activity:nil
5/5     Has anyone had experience with RCN as a cable modem and/or telephone
        service provider?  Was the experience good or bad?  Unfortunately,
        my house is not reachable by reasonable DSL, and my only choice to
        leave Comcast is RCN.  I'm in San Mateo, if that matters.
        \_ RCN was my nightmare for 2 years while I was in New York City
           (lower manhattan, 2 minutes from NYSE).  It has a very unstable
           service.  No, I am not bitching about slow speed at peek time.
           I am talking about the connection will intemittenly go black
           completely, that you can't even keep telnet session alive.

           That was New York City, you might fair better in Bay Area.
2003/5/5-6 [Computer/Networking] UID:28332 Activity:moderate
5/4     Apparently IDSG (the folks who sysadmins machines in Cory Hall) have
        set it up so that any machine that uses DHCP will have its
        /etc/resolv.conf file updated everytime its DHCP lease is renewed.
        Problem is, the /etc/resolv.conf lacks the 'Berkeley.EDU' in its
        search path (it only has 'EECS.Berkeley.EDU') and this causes name
        resolution intra-Berkeley to break. What is the best way to remedy
        this (sans emailing a request IDSG)? Thx!
        \_ why would you not email a request to IDSG?  -tom
           \_ because that would require the most minimal form of social
              interaction via email.  ;-)  -!op
              \_ but there are helpful and friendly sysadmins like tom
                 on the other end.
           \_ because mail gets answered by ever-so friendly people like
              vadim kogan and mark kraitchman.
        \_ man 5 dhclient.conf
        \_ this doesn't help windows clients
           \_ then fucking learn to type faster.  damn.
2003/4/29-30 [Computer/Networking] UID:28257 Activity:insanely high
4/28    what's faster, crossover cable between two computers, wireless,
        or a usb cable?
        \_ crossover cable, of course.
           \_ actually usb2.0 might be faster
                \_ Not if the two machnes have GigE.
           \_  10baseT:  10Mbits/s
              100baseT: 100Mbits/s
                usb2.0: 480Mbits/s
             1000baseT:   1GBits/s
        \_ Keep in mind this traffic has to go over the internal bus.
           \_ and remember, there are 12 eggs in a dozen.
              \_ not a bakers dozen
                 \_ Don't be stupid.
                    \_ There was more value in the bakers dozen than your line
                       \_ Don't be stupid.
                       \_ And there was as much value in the original dozen
                          line as there was in the internal bus line.  What's
                          your point?
                          \_ The other two make sense.  You don't.
        \_ 100mbps and usb2.0 should be fast enough for whatever you are
           doing. 802.11g/a is also probably fast enough.
           \_ i am moving 900 gigs from one place to another.  so
              those little USB ports in my computer, are they
              usb 2.0 ?
                \_ if you are moving 900GB you should know this stuff already.
                   If you are this clueless to start you need to be ready
                   for the world of hurt that you are about to run into.
           \_ Moving or copying?  Sneakernet arrays sounds good here.
                \_ they have the same form factor.  USB2.0 cards cost ~10
                   bucks at frys.
              \_ once or many times?  for once it doesn't matter.
                 \_ more than once.  it matters.
                    \- uh shouldnt you be using deltas then? --psb
                    \_ Get a cross over cable, it will work the
                       best for what you want to do.
                       \- just out of curiosity, are you using/planning
                          to use tcp "only" to move 900gb? if you are
                          going to be using any application level checksumming,
                          can you send me a note about how many tcp checksum
                          failures you see over whatever transport you end
                          up using. ok tnx. --psb
        \- 900 gb? go gige.
           \_ writable dvd.
              \_ at 4gigs per disc?  even at 9, that's over 100.
              \_ IR? . . . floppy? . . . punch cards? . . . licking wires?
        \_ dd if=/dev/clue of=/dev/null
2003/4/27-29 [Computer/Networking] UID:28242 Activity:high
4/27    I want to hook two ethernets together.  The distance would be greater
        than the 100m max. What's the best way to connect them? Is there an
        such a thing as a UTP-ethernet to coax bridge?
        \_ you need Cisco's LRE (Long Range Ethernet) technology.  It can
           go up to a couple of thousand feets using typical twisted pair
           like a phone line. -cisco guy
           \_ As can optical ethernet (compare prices)
              http://www.iec.org/online/tutorials/opt_ethernet/topic02.html
    http://www.iec.org/online/tutorials/opt_ethernet/images/figure05.jpg _/
        \_ use STP to extend range, put a switches in the middle (if feasible).
           I have a couple of standalone RJ-45 to BNC things (they look like
           4-port hubs, which is another possiblity... one with a coax port
           on it...  You could also find some old 386's with 10-base T and
           10-base 2 cards and bridge them.  You'll be slowing your network
           down with anything using coax
        \_ Duct tape is the best way.
        \_ Need cable?  Why not just run an ipsec tunnel over an 802.11a/g
           link with directional range extenders?  Unless you absolutely must
           have full 100mbit fdx, performance won't suffer too much in most
           environments.  You can get cheap enough wifi hardware.
           Alternatively, if you can find one, go back to the basics and
           use repeaters (hub = multiport repeater.)  -John
           \_ some people work in secure environments.  wireless != secure.
              \_ thats why he says to use an ipsec tunnel btwn the two sides..
                 about as secure as it can get.
                 \_ no, it isn't.  ipsec over a wire might be.  i said a
                    "secure" environment.  anything that can be picked up
                    in the air is *not* secure no matter what protocol(s)
                    you're using.
                    \_ wire is more secure only if you can truly secure
                       physical access
                        \_ Wire is more secure because physical access
                           to a wire is more difficult than air.
                           \_ which says nothing to address the point
                              \_ I need the codes. I have to get inside
                                 Zion, and you have to tell me how.  You are
                                 going to tell me or you are going to die.
2003/4/23-24 [Computer/Networking] UID:28200 Activity:high
4/23    I'm planning on spending some time travelling up & down the
        west coast. Is there a list of motels that offer Internet
        connectivity (wireless preferred) that I can choose from? -- lawragas
        \_ They all have phone lines.
                \_ Umm, yeah. I meant somewhat high speed.
        \_ check out the chains and research them.  Motel 6, Howard Johnson
           (unlikely?), Marriot (the cheaper version)
2003/4/16-17 [Computer/Networking] UID:28143 Activity:very high
4/16    hi motd.  I have a home network of Windows computers each getting
        DHCP addresses from the ISP, and the IPs change often and are on
        different subnets (go figure).  What's the best way to share files /
        a printer between the home PCs?  Putting two NICs in each computer
        is a hassle, a NAT gateway would leave each PC with private IPs, and
        adding a static route over a larger ISP subnet would prevent access
        to some remote hosts.  Thanks.
           \_ use Rendezvous / link-layer zero-configuration IP addressess.
        \_ Why not use a NAT gateway? Assign unique private IPs to each host,
           and NAT them to the internet.
           \_ Because this house is full of Internet gamers
        \_ Don't be a wimp.  Put in a second NIC and stop being a baby about
           it.  You just named all the ways possible and then said you don't
           want to do any of them.  If it's too hard to add a $10 NIC and a
           $20 hub to make an internal net then you have no business having
           more than 1 computer.  I have no sympathy for the lazy.
           \_ Wouldn't it have been nice if DHCP clients could also have
              a static IP on a single NIC? -op
              \_ On a real OS they can.
                 \_ which man page can I look at for FreeBSD?  My google
                    foo is lacking.  I've tried man dhcp|ifconfig.
                    \_ Your fu in general is weak.  ifconfig <if> alias ...
                       \_ windows hosts can also have multiple IP/interface
                          \_ but can windows hosts have simultaneous DHCP
                             and a static IP on one interface?
                             can I have tea and no tea at the same time? -op
                             \_ It is not a real OS.  No.
                             \_ Remove your common sense first.  Oh wait, you're
                                using windows!  you should be fine.
2003/4/14-15 [Computer/Networking] UID:28122 Activity:very high
4/14    Is there any point to ARP in a pure switched environment?
        \_ If by purely switched you mean you have the ability to send/
           receive raw ethernet frames and not use the IP stack, then yes,
           there is no need for ARP.
           \_ I mean when you are in a switched rather than shared
              ethernet and everything is going down the wire to the
              switch anyway because you have a defaultroute.
              Doesn't the switch and its arp table handle getting
              things to the right place, rather than the host making
              any decisions?
        \_ ARP is the name map between the MAC layer and IP
              \_ initially the host's arp table is empty.  You have a
                 default route but that's just an IP address.  You still need
                 the default router's MAC address.  The sequence of events is
                 roughly:
                 1. host tries to ping XYZ
                 2. host tries to send the packet to default router but
                    doesn't have the default router's MAC address.
                 3. host sends ARP packet out onto the wire.
                 4. default router picks up the ARP packet and responds.
                 5. host now knows the MAC address of the default router.
                 6. host sends the ping packet again to XYZ with the
                    destination MAC address that of the default router.
                 This is the reason why the first ping packet after bootup
                 always fails.  You can get around it by statically adding
                 the default router's mac address to the host's ARP table.
                 But that's not recommended.  -cisco guy
        \_ like I said, ARP is the name map between the MAC layer and IP
2003/4/14-15 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:28121 Activity:nil
4/14    The OpenBSD 3.3 Song is out:
        http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
2003/4/14-15 [Computer/Networking] UID:28118 Activity:kinda low
4/14    Are 2.4GHz wireless phones going to interfere with my 2.4GHz
        wireless network (assuming i will install them in my house)?
        \_ sometimes yes..
        \_ It's just like with a 300 baud modem back in the day where if you
           could whistle just right you could hack into a bank.
           \_ whistle once for deposits, whistle twice for withdrawals...
2003/4/13-14 [Computer/Networking, Computer/HW] UID:28104 Activity:high
4/12    This sound stupid, but I want to make sure:
        If I don't have real IP, i can't really run server of any kind, right?
        This is in the context of I am running cygwin's x-server, behind
        a firewall / IP splitter, and trying to redirect my other
        account's display to my local x-server
        \_ You can't have the other machine connect to your local X
           server directly, but ssh's X forwarding (ssh -X) will still
           work fine -- and it's more secure, too.
        \_ if you control the firewall, you usually have an option to enable
           port forwarding.
        \_ I'd do the ssh thing, not the port forwarding thing.  More secure.
2003/4/4 [Computer/Networking] UID:27989 Activity:high
4/3     Please recommend a DSL provider on the East Bay other than PacBell
        that provides a consistent low-packet loss, low-latency network
        connectivity to the campus net, preferably with a static IP address
        option.
        \_ PacBell sucks loads of ass.  Try Speakeasy.  A number of sodans
           use it, including me. -scotsman
           \_ Which part of these other DSL companies' connection is their
              own equipment, and how much is resold SBC's connetions?
              \_ The local circuit to your ISP is with your local phone
                 carrier, so SBC/PacBell.  Then Speakeasy is typically
                 resold over Covad.  I like Speakeasy, but other friends
                 of mine have gone straight to Covad.  --sowings
        \_ I have had good results with PacBell.
        \_ Stay away from PacBell. PacBell is evil and does not concern
           itself with customer satisfaction. I would tell stories but
           it would take too long to explain.
           \_ Write it up in your directory and point us to it.
           \_ I agree. When I first got DSL, it took them nearly three months
              to figure out why my connection kept dying. They finally realized
              they set the max bandwidth too high (my location was the max
              distance from the station) and finally lowered my speed to 768kps
           \_ well, a recent one was my friend being offered a "free trial" for
              DSL (already had cable modem), so friend agrees, gets package in
              mail, installs, sees that speed sucks ass, we're talking 12KB/s
              or something, anyway tries to cancel service and then the fun
              begins. Basically they are not honoring the trial and charging
              some $200 cancel fee, and being insulting on the telephone, etc.
2003/4/3-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:27977 Activity:moderate
4/3     When I reboot an XP machine with DHCP enabled, sometimes it gets a
        different IP address.  How can I force it to broadcast its new IP addr
        to other Windoze machines on the same LAN, so that I don't have to wait
        for a while before I can reach the XP machine using its host name
        again?  Usually I think I have to wait 10 minutes or so. Thanks. --yuen
        \_ beg your sysadmin to increase the lease time to something more
           reasonable and you will get the same ip address more often. -shac
        \_ Add linux box, configure DDNS.
        \_ There's a registry settings for how often a windows host
           announces and reannounces itself on the net.  I don't recall the
           path but it's in there and can be modified.
2003/4/3 [Computer/Networking] UID:27970 Activity:high
4/2     What's with the crappy connection tonight?
        \_ i thought it was just my connection.
        \_ Excuse the formatting, but:
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
           <mikeh> I believe the bogus MAC belongs to upe.cs.
           So for those of you who don't speak geek, some FUCKING UPE
           MORON tried to set his IP address to that of the router that
           soda hangs off of.  Regrettably, folks stopped me from
           BEATING THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THE FUCKING UPE MORON.
           - does not like honors societies full of idiots
           \_ Right, like you'd ever have the balls to physically attack
              someone.  Just try not to cry while you masturbate tonight.
                \_ soda is awesome, a post about a crappy connection
                   degenerates into the Commie eating, git tuff
                   free republic nerd guy calling people names.
                \_ I'll do it.  I'm big and mean and I don't like honors
                   societies full of idiots either.  -John
                   \_ Unfortunately, you're also in Europe, and the
                      politburo will never approve expensing your
                      flight.  --erikred
           \_ Just wondering, how did you figure out that the MAC belongs to
              UPE?
              \_ WE'RE SMARTER THAN YOU.  --root
2003/4/1-2 [Computer/Networking] UID:27933 Activity:high
3/31    Anyone have DSL without telephone service?  What provider will
        do this?  I am trying to get away from cable. --jwm
        \_ I am not aware of any provider that will do this.  You might
           be able to set up a phone line, get DSL installed, then cancel
           the phone line, but that's a dicey bet at best.
        \_ Share with a neighbor.  Ask the ones you know, offer to handle
           all the tech, and then split the DSL costs month to month.
           Make sure you don't go with a skinflint ISP that checks for
           this type of thing.  Perhaps someone with more knowledge than
           I can elaborate on the "how" of this.
           \_ Yeah it's really hard.  It takes some extra cables and a $50
              router+switch unit from best buy.  Can I get paid 6 figures for
              doing your networking?
        \_ I have a covad line like this where my employer acts as the
           ISP. covad couldn't care less if you have a phone, but
           you need an ISP to contract with covad for the line...
2003/3/20 [Computer/Networking] UID:27769 Activity:nil
3/20    Cisco buys Linksys:
        http://news.com.com/2100-1035-993457.html?tag=fd_top
2003/3/14 [Computer/Networking] UID:27700 Activity:nil
3/13    Campus net update (for those who don't follow http://ucb.net.announce):

        we believe we have traced the cause of the failures to a
        faulty UPS, which was powering one two power supplies in the
        router (inr-666-doecev.berkeley.edu). late yesterday
        afternoon, after repeated failures, the router was transferred
        off the UPS to commercial power. the router has not failed
        since that time.

        however, in the course of trying to fix the problem, we
        upgraded to the latest software version recommended by the
        manufacturer.  this did not affect the original problem, but
        we discovered that the new image required more RAM and left
        the router in a state with dangerously low free memory. this
        morning at approx 10:10, we per- formed emergency maintenance
        (causing yet another interruption in service) to increase the
        RAM in the router.

        we believe the router is stable at this time, and apologize
        for any inconvenience caused by this, as well as for our
        inability to make timely announcements.

        ken lindahl
        CNS
        \_ I'm wondering what router is inr-666 and what version of IOS
           they're running.  It'll be cool if it's using a feature or
           platform that I worked on.  :-)  -cisco guy
           \_ it is SATAN's ROUTER -The Truth
2003/3/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:27672 Activity:nil
3/12    What's with http://berkeley.edu?  Up and down for the last hour...
        \_ From http://ucb.net.announct:

        From: lindahl@ack.Berkeley.EDU (ken lindahl)
        Subject: unexpected service outage today
        Newsgroups: http://ucb.net.announce
        Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:43:53 +0000 (UTC)
        Organization: Communication & Network Services

        the campus border router that connects to our ISP service failed
        around 1:30pm today. there is some evidence that the failure was
        preceeded (and perhaps caused) by an incoming packet flood; CNS
        is investigating this possibility.

        usually when this router fails, there is an automatic routing
        change that shifts the traffic to different border router in
        roughly a minute or so, so that the disruption is short-lived.
        for some reason, this did not happen gracefully in today's
        incident. traffic is moving across the backup router at this
        time, while we check the condition of the primary router. for
        reasons unknown, one of the interior interfaces on the primary
        router also failed in this incident; CNS has not seen this hap-
        pen before.
2003/3/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:27670 Activity:low
3/12    Got the notice from comcast yesterday that they want to jack up my
        cable modem access if I don't have cable from them.  How can they
        get away with charging $20/month more than DSL?!?  Has anyone called
        to yell at them and gotten good results?
        \_ Vote with your feet.
         \_ damn right I will!  Just gathering info first, so that I can
            make the most informed decision... -OP
        \_ Say you want basic cable for $9.65/month, but you don't want
           to rent the converter or remote.  See if that works.
           \_ Do you mean that the hassle of giving me cable without the
              rentals will make them give me the original price back, or
              just that if I'm going to pay the extra I might as well get
              the cable? -OP
              \_ I mean they'll give you your original rate (last I heard
                 it was $46/month) if you get Basic Cable.  I understand
                 it's $60/month without cable TV.
        \_ They can't.  They jacked up cable tv prices so I've got satellite
           now.  It's cheaper and better.  If they jack my cable modem rates
           I'll switch that too.  It's a semi-open marketplace.
                \_ less open than it was last year.  Thank you FCC.
        \_ I received that notice as well.  They said that if I sign-up for
           cable my internet montly fee will remain the same (~40$) and my
           cable will cost $6/month for the first 6 months (with no setup or
           cancellation fees).  So, ~$50/month for cable and internet still
           seems better than DSL since my cable connection is faster than
           T-1 for download.
           \_ I did that calculation too.  Are there any surcharges (fees,
              taxes, equipment rental, etc.) on the $6/month cable?
              \_ I just called them, and when they say "basic cable" they're
                 not kidding.  You only get the local channels (that you
                 would normally get for free via broadcast) plus C-Span,
                 a few other government access channels and sometimes they
                 include the Discovery Channel.  The next plan up (which
                 all of us would consider basic cable, i.e. CNN, etc.) is
                 $32/month to $42/month depending on digital vs. analog,
                 location, and probably how much they think they can extort
                 \_ In oakland, with taxes and fees, analog is $42/month.
                    digital is more.  cable selection around here sucks.
                    find something else.
                 from you, etc, etc.  So, if you want to keep your cable it's
                 still cheaper to get the $6/month for a total of $48.95, or
                 splurge for real cable for a total of $74.95.  I'm thinking
                 of choice 3: spend the extra $6/month for basic, and when
                 the cable guy comes just give him $20 to hook up the
                 additional channels.  Last time a cable guy was at my place
                 he offered this deal to me out of the blue.
2003/3/11-12 [Computer/Networking] UID:27649 Activity:nil
3/10    My AP times out after 5 minutes. What gives? [ rehash, motd was wiped ]
        \_ I have this same problem with my linksys cable modem hooked to
           my netgear AP (no wireless in use). The problem seems to come from
           my cable modem (I didn't have this problem when I rented a motorola
           cable modem).
           \_ I think it's the AP, not the cable modem.  The only place I've
              had this problem once, with the open access point on a dsl
              modem (netgear 814something) but never on anything else
              (airbears, airport, linksys, d-link, wired linksys, etc.)
              If I had to guess it'd be the inactivity of the nat connection
              expiring and being delisted. -dwc
2003/3/10-11 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/Networking] UID:27646 Activity:nil
3/10    Just set up a new wireless network, but my ssh sessions all time out
        if i'm idle for over 5 minutes or so.  This has happened with three
        different laptops on two different networks.  Anyway to stop it?
        \_ if you're lucky, your router will have a way to adjust the idle
           timeout.  Unfortunately, the open access point above westside
           bongo burger (netgear MRsomething) does not.  The rest of the AP's
           I've been on have saner timeouts.
2003/3/8-10 [Computer/Networking] UID:27628 Activity:low
3/7     Am looking for a small, DHCP-capable Router that can also forward all
        all traffic to a remote filter.  Any recommendations?  And if you're
        going to recommend building a Linux box, would you be so kind as to
        include a link to the modules you recommend? --erikred
        \_ D00de, 00ze l1nukz!!1
        \_ I'd recommend netbsd or openbsd running on one of those cheap
           micro-atx boards.
2003/3/4-5 [Computer/Networking] UID:27597 Activity:kinda low
3/4     Anybody gotten telemarketing calls from ATT broadband telling you to
        switch from DSL to cable internet.  And when you talk to them some
        more they tell you that it's not available in your area yet?  WTF?
        \_ maybe they're researching the feasibility of brining the service
           to your area.
        \_ No.  !!!
2003/3/3-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:27587 Activity:high
3/2     Novice question.  I wrote a simple http proxy in the past, i know
        that once the listen port (i.e. port 80) recieved a connection request
        I remember I used to spawn a different thread at a randomn port to
        establish connection.  My question is, if let say, there is a
        firewall that blocks all the connections from port 1024 and up,
        would this proxy thingy still work?  or Firewall's block is
        directional?  any pointer on how this thingy works?  thanks
        \_ yuh i think u need to pick a port < 1024
           \_ Pick a lower port number and hope both firewalls allow them
              to be used. Everything depends on the firewall setup.
2003/3/1-2 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW] UID:27574 Activity:high
3/1     Is it possible to use a Headphone port as a line-out?
        \_ i can never get the line out port on my laptop to work
           so i just use the headphone port
           \_ ok, thanks. this is for a voice recorder... i was too cheap to
              spend $100 on something with a usb interface so i'd like to be
              able to transfer certain voice recordings to my computer for
              archival.
        \_ I can't believe you asked that question instead of simply trying
           it out
           \_ i dont have the cable, so now im gonna go get one at teh shack.
        \_ You can, but headphone jacks are amped for headphones whereas
           lineout ports aren't (the signal remains at line level).  So
           beware of distortion. -geordan
           \_It's called volume control. Just turn it down and you'll get
           rid of any distortion.
2003/2/25-26 [Computer/Networking] UID:27521 Activity:nil
2/25    My freaking @Home has just been pasted to Comcast from AT&T and they
        are jacking the price to $56/month + cable modem rental starting in
        April 1 from the current $42.  I am looking at the Yahoo! SBC DSL deal
        for $35/month.  Anyone has any comments and/or suggestions?
        \_ Sure if you want them reselling the shit out of your personal info
           and surfing habits with info attached directly to your surfing.
           \_ i supposed this means that they actually logged and resell my
              surfing habits, such as my brother using kaza (sp?) and me doing
              music and VCD's from newsgroups?  -op
              \_ yep.  Read the small print *very* carefully.  It's in there.
                 how else do you think they can do it so cheap compared to the
                 competition?  you're for sale to the lowest scumbag.
        \_ are you in Berkeley? is this scheduled to happen here too if
           you aren't?
           \_ i m in San Leandro.  -op
        \_ DSLExtreme is fairly good.  And does not insist on a contract if
           you bring your own DSL modem (buy one on ebay).  They were having
           some annoying outages between like 2-4AM, but they seem to have
           fixed that. -dans
2003/2/15-17 [Computer/Networking] UID:27426 Activity:nil
2/14    I finally got around to setting up SPAN (makes your Cisco switch sort
        of act like a hub) so that I can monitor my traffic. Ethereal kind of
        shows which protocols are using most of my bandwidth, but doesn't
        print pretty graphs. Also, I'm mostly interested in finding out which
        hosts are using most of my traffic. Are there any Ethereal-like apps
        that do this well? Pretty graphs are a major plus.
        So far I've used TTT, which is kinda crappy.
        \_ leaving span enabled all the time isnt a great idea, esp if you
           are spanning the whole switch to one port, not just mirroring
           a port or a given vlan.
           \_ why isn't it a good idea?  intrusion detection systems depend
              on traffic monitor 100% of the time.  SPAN is a wirespeed
              feature on the catalyst family. Packet replication is done
              by HW so there's no performance degradation.  You can also do
              fancier stuff like use VLAN ACLs to replicate all traffic
              in/out of a VLAN and analyze that traffic. There's more
              commericial software that analyzes netflow tables though.  You
              can also setup the router/switch to export those netflow
              entries.  -cisco guy
              \_ not all switches behave the same when spanning.. relying on
                 spanning a whole switch to a single port is a ridiculous
                 idea w/ large switches that can easily handle more traffic
                 than any 1 port.. for example, a 6500.. the smart thing to
                 do with an IDS is to only span against the inbound/outbound
                 port rather than the whole switch. if you rather watch
                 the whole vlan then you splice down and mirror 1 vlan / port.
                 the easiest way to defeat an IDS is to overload its span
                 port or overload the IDS. there have also been many bugs
                 that are triggerred by sustained spanning on shitty (low
                 end) catalyst switches. for a "cisco guy" i dont think youve
                 worked with spanning very much on the ios based switches.
        \_ yo yo yo... i just want to monitor traffic on my main ingress
           point, nothing too intensive. and i dont have money to buy any
           fancy nids crap... just want some free stuff to see who's running
           kazaa and so forth...
2003/2/11 [Computer/Networking] UID:27369 Activity:nil
2/11    Is there a way to find out a login's last email access?  including
        from which ip the user checked his email from?
        \_ nothing too reliable on the first, nothing on the second.
        \_ finger?
        \_ Silly nerd, stalking's not fashionable these days.
        \_ Depends on how much mail the person receives. If it's a lot, you
           are out of luck. Otherwise "ls -lu" in /var/mail shows last access
           time (note that recieving mail is an "access"). Use that info
           along with "last" and you might be able to match up an IP. VERY
           unreliable though. Lots of dependancies.
                \_ Be aware that the ip might just be that of a nat-fw
                   of a socks proxy, and not the really ip of the person.
                   And don't forget some people use a .forward.
2003/2/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:27358 Activity:high
2/8     I am thinking of getting an ADSL.  I have a choice of 5 dynamic
        IP, or one single static IP.  My issue is as follows:  I want
        to run my little server from home, but at the same time,
        I will be sharing this broadband with two or more computer.
        What should I do? Get the Static IP option and buy a router
        off shelf?  Would that give me the ability to run server?
        thanks.                 nerd wantta be
        \_ Dynamic IPs don't work with cable modem.
        \_ if the router does port forwarding (and most do), yes, you can
           run a server easily enough.  or you can go for the dynamic IP
           addresses and use something like dynamic DNS.
           \_ I saw http://easyDNS.com offer such service.  Any other relatively
              good and cheap DNS service?               -OP
                \_ DynDNS. They have great, configurable services, and
                   most don't cost.
        \_ I'd do the static IP.  A zillion small businesses run just fine with
           a single static IP.  You can too.  Dynamic dns gives a lame and
           highly unprofessional look to your domain.
           \_ While I suggest going with static IP, you can side-step
              the unprofessional look by making your FQDN a CNAME
              to your dynamic name (e.g., http://www.domain.com CNAME <DEAD>host.dyndns.org<DEAD>)
              \_ For the clueless (like me), how would I do this?
                 \_ 1) Set up a http://dyndns.org host (e.g., <DEAD>host.dyndns.org<DEAD>)
                    2) Register domain (e.g., http://domain.com)
                    3) Make http://www.domain.com an alias for <DEAD>host.dyndns.org<DEAD>.
                       You can use http://UltraDNS.com.
                    \_ Or pay for IP masking.  Try http://GoDaddy.com
        \_ Definitely Static IP. Then buy a $50 router for the rest of your
           machines. If you have a "server", just put that on the DMZ.
        \_ Thanks all for the reply.  I will probably go for Static IP
           and put the server in the DMZ like other people said. I will
              instead of putting it in the DMZ. there is a lot of network
           explorer various DNS service options.        -OP
           \_ for your first server, i recommend using port-forwarding
              instead of putting it in the DMZ. there are many network
              \_ Great idea.Go ahead and port forward to a insecure box
              security lessons you haven't learned.
              \_ Great idea. Go ahead and port forward to a insecure box
                 on your intranet. When the next wu-ftpd or proftpd exploit
                 comes out your entire intranet is compromised. Wozer!
2003/2/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:27319 Activity:high
2/5     Does anyone know which RFC (if any) has a list of ip addr
        blocks that are considered invalid, (ex. 169.254.0.0/16)?
        1918 only lists the private blocks. tia.
        \_ 169.254/16 is used by dhcp autoconfig... essentially if you have
           an ip network w/o a dhcp server and don't want to manually config
           you ip int. it's similar to how ipx and appletalk config w/o a
           seed router. -shac
        \_ Well first explain what you mean by 'considered invalid' and maybe
           we can find you your list.
                \_ By invalid I mean pkts with src/dest addrs that are
                   in addr blocks which should never send traffic on the
                   internet. I'm trying to filter pkts with invalid ip
                   addr (spoofed pkts) and I wanted to know if there were
                   addr blocks other than the RFC 1918 private blocks
                   that I should be filtering. So far, I've just found
                   the 169.254.0.0/16 addr block which is used for dhcp
                   client auto-conf. I wanted to know if there were others.
                   \_ by 'should never' do you mean addr's that aren't
                      registered, or just addressees that aren't routable
           10.0.0.0/8, 127.0.0.0/8, 169.254.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12, 192.0.2.0/24,
           192.168.0.0/16, 224.0.0.0/4, 240.0.0.0/4 (These last two are
           contiguous.) --scotsman
                      ( which changes regularly -- get a BGP feed from
                      somewhere if you really want a list).
        \_ i don't remember the exact page, but it's somewhere on http://ietf.org
           and it goes like this:
           10.0.0.0/8, 127.0.0.0/8, 169.254.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12,
           192.0.2.0/24, 192.168.0.0/16, 224.0.0.0/4, 240.0.0.0/4
           (These last two are contiguous.) --scotsman
           \_ Thanks. I'll search on http://ietf.org to see if there are
              others. BTW, do you know what the 192.0.2.0/24 block
              is used for?
              \_ It's used for examples (a la http://example.com, or the 555
                 telephone prefix) --scotsman
2003/2/4-5 [Computer/Networking] UID:27304 Activity:high
2/3     Is there any way to tell the physical location / vicinity of an IP
        address?
        \_ Well, you can find the owner through ARIN, and then you can do
           a little looking around for that company's info.  You can often
           get a rough sense from a traceroute as well.
        \_ There was some /. posting a while back about a company that can
           give you this information w/ 99.x% accuracy for the US and 9x%
           accuracy for the world.
        \_ In summary: yes, sort of, but not easily and not 100%.
        \_ In a related topic, what do you use to spoof your ip addie?
                \- this is hard to do generally with tcp if you expect
                   an answer. this is not really a related topic. --psb
           \_ Trying to stalk someone's Web page?
        \_ Is this in regard to the kid who killed himself while
           chatting?  His ISP should have been able to put an address
           to an IP, but they would have needed some serious convincing
           to do so.
2003/1/30 [Computer/Networking] UID:27241 Activity:high
1/29    I want an IPv4 address block (/24 is good enough). ARIN charges
        $2,500 in addition to regular membership. Any other cheaper places?
        \_ many isp's will allocate you a decent size block if you give them
           a good reason, esp if you are a hicap customer. recently i had an
           isp route a /24 for an additional $100 on top of their normal
           monthly charges for a T1.. which was about $1500... of course the
           cost for that T1 varies HEAVILY by the provider (big guys like
           Internap charge much more than cut-rate ones) -shac
        \_ ask your upstream ISP
           \_ How much does this go for?
              \_ Varies dramatically by ISP based on the total service
                 package.  My company has 64 addresses and a 32 rack cage for
                 about $25k/month.  YMWV.
        \_ Also, your ISP might charge you to manage that /24, no?
        \_ i get 14 IPs on 1.1 SDSL for $179.  supposedly they'll give me
           more IPs but i haven't quite needed them.
        \_ Do you want to own the block?  This is necessary if you want to
           be portable (i.e. change upstream ISP without renumbering) or
           multihomed (multiple upstream ISPs).  Most ISPs will offer at
           least a /24 along with real connectivity (T1 or greater) at little
           or no cost, shac's figure of $100 on top of transit sounds
           reasonable.  In order to obtain a block from ARIN, you have to
           jump through a number of hoops which can be a pain.  I strongly
           suggest you get someone who has successfully obtained IP space from
           ARIN in the past to assist you with this.  Their is also a gray
           market for IP address space.  You'll still have to obtain an AS,
           and the transfer will have to go through ARIN, RIPE or one of
           the other regional equivalents, but this is often cheaper and
           more expedient than going directly through ARIN. -dans
           \_ gray market?  how so?  is the transfer not legal?
2003/1/18-19 [Computer/Networking] UID:27148 Activity:high
1/18    So I have a cable modem and both a Debian Linux and a WinXP
        machine. I want to set up one as the firewall/server for my
        internal network to the internet.  Which is preferable and why?
        \_ obLinuxSux! & obDoesntWorkWithCableModem.
           Seriously, I'd pick linux since its possible to secure it
           to some extent (unless you really need asp and vbscript
           in which case you are stuck with XP).
           \_ Clueless n00b.  You can run asp, etc through the linux firewall.
                \_ Dipshit, I know you can port forward, but he said
                   he wants a single fw/server. If that is the case
                   then he is stuck with xp. And if he wants vb, asp
                   etc, he is also stuck with iis.
                   \_ Do a little research on reverse web proxies (specifically
                      URL based proxying)
                   \_ good thing all the politics threads got deleted,
                      so we can have intelligent technical dialog like
                      this.
        \_ I'd do linux if you already have it. It doesn't really need any
           resources (P100 is fine) and if you don't play with it, will be
           up for 3-6 months at a time (it's a cheap PC, so you'll probably
           have some hardware failure or trip over the cord every so often.)
        \_ or if you were lazy and had about $75, you could buy NAT-in-a-box
           like a Linksys cable router/firewall, but then accessing your
           linux box would be a bit trickier, if you needed to get at it
           from the "outside".
           \_ you can get one on craigslist for ~$40
        \_ Or you could pay an extra $5/month and get a real IP for both.
           Using pf on openbsd and both winroute and zone alarm 2.x on w2k
           each with own public IP.  As far as I know, nothing ugly has
           happened after 2+ years like this.  Script kiddies run into the
           fw's on both *all* the time but nothing serious is going on.
2003/1/15-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:27105 Activity:kinda low
1/15    What is in-addr.arpa do?  Zoen alarm says I have traffic coming from
        12.141.96.211, and nslookup says the Name is:
        211.96.141.12.in-addr.arpa.   Does the traffic really come from the
        12.* address or the 211.* address?
        \_ 12.*.  in-addr-arpa is reverse lookup, and it's configured
           from right to left.  'in' stands for 'inverse', I think.  -John
           \_ Err, are you sure it doesn't stand for internet? as in in_addr,
              etc? The fact that nslookup says the above just means there's
              no PTR records for that IP pointing to any names for it,
              in other words, no interesting reverse-lookup info.
              And yes, as John said, IP number a.b.c.d is represented
              as d.c.b.a.in-addr.arpa in DNS records. Your traffic is from
              the 12.* IP only.
2003/1/11-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:27070 Activity:kinda low
1/11    Just got notice from AT&T that they're sending me a new cable
        modem (for free) - was wondering if anyone else got this, and
        why?  What has changed in the technology that makes them want
        to do this???
        \_ DOCSIS Data over Cable Service Interface Specification.
           They can do diagnistics on new modems that they can't do on
           older ones.  do you lease your modem from ATT? What is it
           $10/month? You can now buy modems everywhere for about $100.
           Oh, if you use @attbi.com for email, get ready to change
           to @comcast.net. I sure do appreciate the CSUA..
           \) Cox bastards were charging me $15/mo. So I go out and buy a
              linksys for $50 (ROI <4months), and it works, except I lose
              my csua connection whenever I leave for >10 minutes.
        \_ They changed mine a long time ago.  As far as buying vs. renting,
           I rent because if you own your own and there's a problem the first
           thing they do is tell you your equipment is the problem and hang
           up on you.  Also if it breaks or there's upgrades or whatever, they
           replace it.  I just want my net to work and I'm willing to pay a
           few extra bucks a year for it.
           \_ I bought mine because it was $10/mo. Then they actually reduce
              it to $5/mo rental. Bastards.
        \_ You know why they can arbitrarily change your email address
           and charge you modem-rent? Because in Japan, they get 100Mbit
           connections to the HOME. And 12Mbps DSL costs $20/month.
                \_ yeah but you have to pay in soiled underwear
           \_ Never heard that before. urlP.
2003/1/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:27060 Activity:high 62%like:27063
1/10    Stop with the wireless shit.  Go reading a fucking FAQ.
        \_ I think he needs a wireless FAQ instead of a fucking FAQ.
2003/1/10 [Computer/Networking] UID:27055 Activity:kinda low
1/09    There is both a wired and wireless network at work.  My laptop has
        a built in 802.11b Orinoco card and 10/100 ethernet adapter.  I have
        access (get IP addresses for) to both networks.  Question: How does
        my applications know which network to use?  How does my browser
        know how to go to Intranet sites via the wired (corporate) network?
        The wireless network is a DSL connection only.
           \_ I'm running both XP and RH8 on it.  ipconfig in XP lists
              the wireless connection first, then the local area connection,
              but I don't think that's necessarily the order for the routing.
              Is there a way to specify, say Opera to use the wireless
              interface, and IE to use the wired ntework?  (I haven't figured
              out how to use the wireless in RH8 yet; 'ifconfig eth1 up' gets
              it up, but I don't know how to get an IP ... it's a D-Link AP).
              -op
              \_ I'm almost certain that there's no easy way to have
                 browser-based connection choosing, unless you write a
                 wrapper script around your browsers that
                 a) records existing network options
                 b) changes them for that browser
                 c) removes the changes on browser quit.
                \_ You could probably do this with a local proxy.  I haven't
                   played with anything under XP, but I believe squid can be
                   told what interface to listen on.  If you gave it one of
                   your specific interfaces, I suppose it ought to work with
                   that one.  Then just point your browser at it.  As for the
                   IP, is the AP running in gateway or bridging mode?  I
                   assume you also have to run dhclient or something similar
                   on the interface (assuming you're using DHCP.)  Look at
                   http://www.isc.org  -John
2003/1/9-10 [Computer/Networking] UID:27054 Activity:very high
1/09    I've been told that wireless LAN doesn't work as well vertically (up
        two flights of stairs) as it does horizontally.  This seems odd.
        \_ it totally depends on the antenna used... for most sold in stores,
           yes that is correct. -shac
        \_ Floors are built more solidly than walls.
        \_ electromagnetic radiation is stronger going up then side
           to side
        \_ Is it necessary to enable WEP if I'm already using SSH?
           \_ No. But I use it anyway.
2003/1/9-10 [Computer/Networking, Consumer/TV, Recreation/Media] UID:27041 Activity:high
1/9     Anyone know of a good DSL provider in berkeley?  I'm currently using
        DirectTV and they're shutting down soon.  I need a month-to-month
        contract as I'm graduating this semester.
        \_ Try <DEAD>dslextereme.com<DEAD>.
           \_ I second.
        \_ dslextreme, DSi, sonic. I am personally moving to cyberonic
           because I was sold out by their upload speed. They offer
           1500/768Kbps for 50/month with a static IP.
        \_ DTV is shutting down?  I just got mine!
           \_ DirectTV DSL is shutting down. DirectTV Sat. is going
              strong.
        \_ Speakeasy is very good, I've had no problems, they offer shell
           accounts, They give back to the community (e.g. hosting
           rpmfind for free) and most importantly: if you sign up they will
           give me money: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/173586 -crebbs
2003/1/2 [Computer/Networking] UID:26966 Activity:nil
1/02    Happy Belated 20th Birthday to TCP/IP:
        http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/02/1041196726476.html
2002/12/25-26 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:26905 Activity:high
12/24   Is there a decent firewall package for Windows XP?  The built in
        firewall (XP Pro) doesn't seem to have the ability to do simple
        things like 'Only allow packets coming from these IP's...'.
        Alternatively, is there an interface to the built in firewall that
        is designed for non-morons?  Yes, yes, I know using a Windows box
        for firewalling is laughable.  I have an XP box on an open network,
        and I would like to put SOME measure of protection on it.
        \_ are you looking for something to protect 1 machine (yours) or
           something to act as a gateway for your office/company? for just
           1 machine you can't do much better than ZoneAlarm http://www.zonelabs.com
           -shac
           \_ One machine.  I'll check out ZoneAlarm.  Thanks. -OP
              \_ Hope you dont play any games on that machine...
                 \_ Why not?  I've used zone alarm for a long time and use the
                    same machine for games.  It isn't an issue.  Stop trying
                    to FUD a good product.
                    \_ Why don't we leave it to the sodan game designers to
                       judge.
        \_ What do you need? Is a $50 linksys sufficient? That's what I did
           (even though I only have 1 PC).
           \_ Yeah, I was thinking software based, but, now that you mention
              it, a $50 linksys may suffice.  Model number?  That said, if
              others have suggestions, please speak up.  I'd like to know
              what other options may be available. -OP
              \_ Go to amazon check out what they have from linksys and
                 netgear. i got the MR814 (wireless) for $45 after rebate.
                 like i said before, i'm using it as a hardware based
                 "ZoneAlarm".
        \_ zone alarm is free.  the 'pro' version costs some trivial amount
           like $30 or $40 or something.
           \_ hi sky!
                \_ No.  I'm not sky.  I'm a astisfied user of the zone alarm
        \_ Winxp pro comes with a firewall.  Turn it on.
           \_ read the post again... he says he's using it.
                   software.  I couldn't pick sky out of a 2 person line up.
        \_ Kerio Personal Firewall. http://www.kerio.com
2002/12/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/P2P] UID:26880 Activity:insanely high
12/20   If one is snarfing porn and one has used a secure erasing program
        to erase the incriminating files from one's own drive. How many
        other locations likely have records of the transaction and how long
        will those records persist? This was via kazaalite, a spyware-free
        p2p client.
            \- just out of curiousity, is this a shared work computer, hide
               from spouse or is it child p0rn or something like that? --psb
        \_ The server, in its log files, forever. Your browser cache,
           until you clear it. Your browser history file, for however
           long you have your browser set to retain files.
                \_ You forgot about the logs for all of the transparent
                   proxies (most of them will have copies of the content
                   in their caches as well).
           \_ The server as in the server from whence I downloaded the porn?
              A bummer about Windows Media Player is that I have know idea how
              to clear its buffer. Anyway, thanks. This is pretty much as I
              figured. I was worried about things like whether our router or
              our DSL modem keeps transaction logs.
              \_ link:www.techtv.com has a howto for being able to clear WMP's
                 history.
              \_ It depends on the router.  Some routers have the ability to
                 replicate all packets coming in from a certain port or IP
                 address and redirect it to a workstation with analysis
                 software running.  This is standard practice in the heavily
                 loaded POPs.  ISPs analyze traffic patterns to better plan out
                 network buildouts.
2002/12/13-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:26810 Activity:moderate
12/13   Hmm, I can't get out to http://wamu.com from work by name, but i can get out
        by IP. dns lookups on all other sites seem to work ok. it works from
        soda. any ideas on what is wrong?
        \_ RU going THRU a proxy? What about security(SSL) proxy?
           Online banking sites?
           \_ nslookup fails. As a temporary fix, the admin setup an SOA
              and pointed it to the right IP address, but that's so LAME.
              \_ local host file.  hire real network people.
                 \_ He said he tried that but that DNS was still not resolving
                    the address.
        \_ At an old company I took SOA for http://napster.com and redirected it to
           our own www.
           \_ and then?
              \_ And then cut our bandwidth costs by 95%
                 \_ and then?
                    \_ Yes.  Anything else you'd like to know?
2002/12/2-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:26689 Activity:nil
12/2    Anybody know what vendor we use in the AirBears wireless network?
        \_ help from docomo/NTT
           \_ NTT provided most of the initial funding, but we're not using
              any of their equipment--they're just doing research on usage
              patterns.  The first wave of access points were
              Lucent (Orinoco), but we're starting to deploy Intel dual-band
              (802.11a/b).  The authentication box is by a company called
              Vernier.  -tom
2002/11/13-14 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26528 Activity:very high
11/13   When does e-commerce really start?  Does any scholars here read
                                        \_Next Tuesday.
        any documentations about how to utilize the internet to do business?
        I just recently read that PanIP is suing all the small business
        that utilize automated shopping over the internet.  Supposedly the
        owner of PanIP has two patents describing the automated process
        of e-commerce.  http://www.youmaybenext.com
        \_ "Strong English language skills required".
                \_ shut the fuck up aaron.
                \_ ??? Is that quote directed to the link ???
2002/11/11-12 [Computer/Networking] UID:26511 Activity:high
11/11   Any ideas for where to buy this 3com type3 pcmcia card locally?
        I want it today.  3C3FE574BT
        \_ why a 574BT? thats a slower 16bit.. get the 575. i have bought
           them from the dotcom depot at lawrence and arques near frys
           in sunnyvale. -shac
            \_ I think the CardBus drivers are expermiental/unstable in linux.
               What OS do you use this card with?
        \_ Fry's in Freemont?
            \_ Thanks, I was wrong, Looks like the 3C3FE575CT is supported
               Thanks, I hope it works. -op
           \_ is this the place you're talking about?
                      http://www.diskdepot.com
                \_ yes.. thats actually a separate store, next door,
                   owned by the same guy... both stores are GREAT. -shac
                   \_ Do you have a phone # or url for dotcom depot.
                        \_ try the same phone #.. too much junk
                           to list on a web page.
        \_ Fry's in Fremont?
           \_ nope, called em.
2002/11/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:26444 Activity:moderate
11/6    What's the easiest way to resolve a name to an IP on a machine
        that doesn't have bind. Is there a shell function?
        \_ ping
        \_ nslookup?
        \_ many os's have "host", but ping is probably most universal.
        \_ The machine doesn't have BIND installed?  Or doesn't use a
           nameserver?  Check /etc/hosts (hostname.hme0 or whatever interface
           on solaris.)  Some Windows boxes have a file called lmhosts or
           lmhosts.sam.  There are web-based nslookups available for boxes
           on the internet.  If your machine doesn't use a DNS server, ping
           won't return a remote machine's hostname, will it?  Otherwise just
           port scan it and see if it has any services running that might
           return a host name (http, smtp) when you telnet to that port. -John
                \_ Doesn't have BIND installed. It's a linux laptop.  ping
                   does just what I originally needed, but I'm going to try
                   to install nslookup and dig (both of which are part of
                   the BIND distribution) without installing named.
                   -- I just copied the two files "dig" and "nslookup" from
                   the /usr/bin of a linux box I trust, and copied them
                   into the /usr/bin/ of my laptop. That was easy.
        \_ vi /etc/hosts
        \_ on solaris/BSD, you can just "arp hostname" to get IP.
           Faster than ping.
           Don't have linux near me to see if behaves the same way.
           There are also web-sites that do nslookup for you as mentioned
           above, but only if it's an Internet IP.
2002/11/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:26440 Activity:moderate
11/5    hola, is there a "definite" book on photoshop [not superadvanced?]
        kind of like stevens for tcp/ip ... something that stands head and
        shoulders above the rest. ok tnx --psb
        \_ If you're somewhat of a beginner, I've found that the
           (many) books from Peachpit Press are very helpful and
           easy to read. Check them out.
                \_Try the classroom in a book books -mrehrer
2002/11/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:26427 Activity:nil
11/5    How do I find out who "owns" a specific IP address when it doesn't
        resolve with nslookup? ie. There's a host down, and I want to
        report the outage to the appropriate company.
        \_ whois -a address (substitute -e or -p for non-US addresses)
2002/11/4-5 [Computer/Networking, Reference/RealEstate] UID:26396 Activity:high
11/4    I'm about 9000 feet from the CO. In an apartment complex.
        What kind of DSL speed can I expect? thanks.
        The Covad phone answerer claims they already checked my apartment
        and it can get 200/64.
        What if I move to SF duplex at 7000 ft from CO?
        \_ if thats what they claim at 7000' then the results of the MLT
           must have been pretty bad... ask them what the results look like.
           at 7000' you should be able to get their highest service unless
           there is something wrong with your copper pair. if thats the case
           then even DSL w/ pacbell will be limited.
        \_ Why don't you ask Covad about your potential new address?
        \_ http://www.dslreports.com/faq/4676
           How about Telco ADSL?
        \_ Covad routinely lies to get you to upgrade to more expensive DSL
2002/10/26-28 [Computer/SW/P2P, Computer/Networking] UID:26329 Activity:nil
10/25   When I hit <DEAD>localhost:1214<DEAD> (Kazaa port) it works ok. But
        when I go to <DEAD>:1214/ it no longer works. Whys that?
        \_ What IP?
        \_ Is the kazaa server listening on <ip>:1214? You can check
           with netstat or something.
        \_ Packet filter/personal firewall?
2002/10/21-22 [Computer/Networking] UID:26271 Activity:moderate
10/21   Is this a DNS or an ARP problem? Is there
        any easy way to clear the arp entry (-d doesn't wrok because there
        is no entry).
        pluto [/htm/mrtg/cfg]# nslookup argon
        Server:  localhost
        Address:  127.0.0.1

        Name:    http://argon.nerdnet.org
        Address:  207.112.118.66

        pluto [/htm/mrtg/cfg]# arp argon
        ruhs (207.112.118.6) -- no entry
        \_ it could very well be neither.  argon may have multiple IPs on
           a single mac.
           \_ Argon is a router. .66 is one of the routers IPs, .6 is not.
              It was (incorrectly) named in the DNS. Which I removed, and then
              got what you see above... but I didn't know how to clear the
              cache.
2002/10/17 [Computer/Networking] UID:26217 Activity:high
10/16   I'm using a cable modem for net access on a computer running
        RH 7.1 linux.  The cable company hands out dynamic IPs via
        dhcp, but I want my IP to stay constant so I can run a webserver.
        How do I force my computer to update its dhcp lease?  I tried
        using /sbin/dhcpcd -n, but that didn't change my dhcpcd-eth0.info
        file.  Thanks.
        \_ go get dsl.
           \_ you get PPPoE and dynamic IPs with regular DSL.
                \_ not if you go DSLExtreme (same price as "regular" crap DSL)
                   \_ you missed my point, which was
                      "say what you mean, and mean what you say."
        \_ Are you dorks still doing the "it doesnt work w/ cable modem" bs?
        \_ How is forcing your computer to update its dhcp lease going
           to keep your IP constant? Also, I think ATTBI blocks port 80.
           get a DSL that will make this easy.
           \_ ATTBI blocks *nothing*.  Nonsense.  I've had the same IP from
              them since they bought my part of @home.  1.5m down/256kbit up
              with dhpc assigned but unchanging IP for $45/month.  Top that.
              Oh yeah, down time so far with AT&T is *zero*.
           \_ Renewing the lease keeps the same IP as far as I can tell.  The
              problem is that if I wait until the lease expires before I
              renew, and a timeout occurs because the network is slow, then
              by the time I renew I get another IP.  This doesn't happen
              often (maybe once a week or so), but it is still annoying
              since it forces me to change my DNS entry. - OP
              \_ DHCP is supposed to give you the same IP under the scenario
                 you describe.  If not then they broke it at their end or
                 your client is woefully stupid.  Put a static IP address on
                 your end and just run your dhcp client via cron and throw
                 away the response.
        \_ Normally (I think Windows does this), you request to renew the lease
           after the "halfway" point. e.g. if you have a 4 day lease, you ask
           to renew after 2 days.
2002/10/13 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:26167 Activity:kinda low
10/12   How much does a Gigabit Ethernet NIC and switch cost? Where to Buy?
        \_ way too vague.. NIC varies btwn $100 and $1500 depending on
           the manufacturer and the cards features and the switch varies
           on how many gigE ports and other ports on it. for basic pricing
           maybe check Dell.. they have a very cheap gig switch. and of
           course everything depends on copper or fiber. -shac
              \_ Copper PCI NIC's that work in Linux and a 4 port copper switch.
                 I still have a related question from yesterday: Compare the
                 lag between running an Xserver (WinAxe_) over 100BaseT compared
                 with running X on the Linux machine's hardware for real.
                 \_ I've displayed netrek from workstation to another over a
                    100mbit link.  Ran as fast as if it was local.  YMMV.
        \_ Ebay sells Cisco gig switches for <$1000.
2002/10/4-5 [Computer/Companies/Apple, Computer/Networking] UID:26105 Activity:high
10/4    Anyone need a firewire hub?
        http://charismac.com/Products/firedino
        \_ I liked it better when it was called Hubzilla.
2002/9/26 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:26012 Activity:high
9/25    I see ppl on the internet say "gg" to each other in a derogatory
        fashion. What the fuck does that mean? Damn internet.
        \_ blame starcraft, good game
           \_ internet chess way b4 starcraft
        \_ it means vagina in mandarin.
           \_ I thought mandarin was a tonal language so it matters how you
              pronounce it, not how you spell it.
              \_ I think (s)he just made it up.
           \_ uh, it actually means penis.
2002/9/25-26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Consumer/Camera, Computer/Networking] UID:26003 Activity:moderate
9/25    Okay, going to ask this again since it got nuked while I was rudely
        getting my beauty sleep--looking for tips on placement of 802.11b
        APs (5 AirPorts in a mid-sized building with ca. 70 clients.)  Also,
        curious whether it's best to use the same frequency on all APs
        or increment it, and whether there's a common method used by clients
        to pick an AP if they receive signals from several.  ok tnx.  -John
        \_ It's in the motd archives.
             \_ Where are the motd archives?
                \_ this question has been asked before... check the archives.
2002/9/24 [Computer/Networking] UID:25993 Activity:nil
9/23    Setting up a small-ish 802.11b network (5 AirPorts, ca. 30 clients
        across a building with two floors and about 15 rooms.)  Can someone
        give me some tips as to how to set the AP frequencies?  Is it best
        to have them all on the same, or on incremental frequencies?  Also,
        is there any uniform method by which wi-fi cards pick an AP (assuming
        one's in the same room, but overloaded, and one is down the hall,
        with a slightly weaker signal, will a new client pick the next AP?)
        Thanks.  -John
           \_ http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120061
              "Designing AirPort Networks" has the tips you need.
        \_ Mix frequences, use all 3 (i think there are only 3 real ranges?)
           to maximize throughput. As for the other stuff, I don't know of
           any uniform method, but is your network all airports and mac?
           Never used apple, but dlink client allow you to choose an AP. Higher
           end stuff like cisco might have such load-balancing features.
           I think the Linksys client card just picks an AP for you.
           \_ There are 11, but they overlap; there are only 3 that are
              mostly distinct.  Use 1, 6, and 11, and try to keep the
              access points with the same frequencies away from each other.
              I think a client will always pick up on the strongest signal,
              there's nothing about congestion built into the protocol. -tom
2002/9/19-20 [Computer/Networking, Consumer/TV, Recreation/Media] UID:25944 Activity:very high
9/19    DirecTV vs. Cable. I want to hear my fellow geeks' opinions. I've
        already found out quite a lot on the web.
        \_ AT&T analog cable works well for me.  Installation was cheaper than
           buying a dish.  If you run into a promotion period you can even get
           free installation.
           \_ AT&T extended basic is up to $40/month now.  It's hardly
              worth it.  Especially in Oakland, where we get shit for
              channels and have seen our bill go up 10% every three
              months.  Cancelled mine last month.
              \_ What are you replacing the service with, may I ask?
                 \_ read a book, play some frisbee. live your life instead
                    of drooling in front of the television.
                 \_ a DVD player.  What's worth watching on TV?
                    \_ History channel, sci-fi channel, discovery channel(s).
                       \_ Dicovery channel is really not as good as you think.
                          History channel is rarely better than boring.  If I
                          really miss scifi, i'll mooch off a friend.
                          \_ Oh well thank Jesus F. Christ I have you here to
                             tell me what's good or not on my line up.  Without
                             you I might be watching sitcoms and ER dramas
                             every night.  Idiot.
                             \_ Get the fuck over it, dumbass.
                                \_ HAHHAHAHHAHA WHAT AN IDIOT! HAHHAHAHA
                                   I CAN"T BELIEVE IT!  I SUCCESSFULLY TROLLED
                                   SOMEONE!  I CAN GET MY DUMBASS DEGREE NOW!
                             \_ PBS and The Simpsons. That's all I watch. I've
                                got an antenna on the roof and VCR/DVD. --dim
                    \_ JAG, Son of the Beach, E! Wild On, Howard Stern Show,...
                    \_ PBS
           \_ the new directivos with D* is a much better deal than
              snowy cable, or crappy digital.
        \_ The dude at Cambridge Soundworks who seemed knowledgeable told me
           that in terms of picture quality DirecTV > analog cable > digital
           cable
2002/9/19 [Computer/Networking] UID:25941 Activity:nil
9/18    In UDP or multicast/datagram/whatever you call them, is it necessary
        to do CRC or some type of error checking? Or is it guaranteed to not
        have error (either you get correct data or none)?
        \_ my understanding is the latter.  that is what a datagram is
           all about
        \_ From "man udp":
           MIB VARIABLES
           The udp protocol implements a number of variables in the net.inet
           branch of the sysctl(3) MIB.
             UDPCTL_CHECKSUM    (udp.checksum) Enable udp checksums (enabled by
                                default).
2002/9/19 [Computer/Networking] UID:25939 Activity:nil
9/18    Has anyone here used dslextreme for dsl service? Are they a decent
        dsl provider? (I'm asking for personal experience, not a dslreports
        url). tia.
        \_ I've been using dslextreme for a year now, and I haven't
           had any problems.
        \_ Love them. No PPoE bullshit, i have a static IP, it's all good.
2002/9/18 [Computer/Networking] UID:25931 Activity:nil
9/17    Besides multicast are there other types of datagrams that do
        "broadcast" on the internet?
        \_ certain control protocols use multicast ip addresses.  OSPF
           hello packets come to mind.  Also in transparent LAN environments
           ARP packets are present on the internet as well.  But those are
           usually tunneled in a L2TP or MPLS or some other tunnel.
        \_ uh, broadcast, multicast, and unicast are the three basic types of
           datagram.  Whats yer question?
2002/9/15 [Computer/Networking, Computer/Theory] UID:25898 Activity:nil
9/15    I want to block http://advertising.com, http://doubleclick.com, http://fastclick.com, etc
        etc etc on my router. Is there a blacklist I can find? Thanks.
2002/9/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:25866 Activity:nil
9/12    Got a job interview for next week.  They use Foundry.  I've never
        touched a Foundry in my life but the online docs make it look like
        it uses a CLI the same as Cisco's IOS.  Is this true?  Does my Cisco
        fu apply directly to Foundry?
        \_ Foundry is similar but slightly different in annoying ways. You'll
           adjust.
           \_ Anything in particular I should know?  Thanks!
2002/9/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:25863 Activity:high
9/12    Secondary theme on DSL - I have pacbell and I'm suffering many
        dropouts because I can't authenticate on PPPoe.  Sometimes their
        server is overloaded, sometimes reseting my routers fix it.  So...
        pay them $15 extra for *5* static IPs, or find another PB reseller
        who gives you 1 static, risk a new set of problems?  -jor
        \_ AT&T cable doesn't use PPPoE and has had fewer failures in the last
           2 years than our office T1.
        \_ what router do you use? I use pacbell in SF with a netgear
           RP114 and have no problems whatsoever.
           \_ Linksys classic 4 port.  After idle period, it often can't
           connect tothe PPPoE server.  Sometimes (but not always), this
           can be resolved by power cycling the linksys, and the dsl modem.
           \_ never buy another linksys product. I've used both linksys and
              netgear routers, and the differences are day and night.
              The netgear can be left on for years while the linksys
              \_ this unit worked great for two years, only recently got
                 screwy.  Could be aging badly, or could be antoher indication
                 that PPPoE bites on SBCnet.  In general, I liked the brand.
              needs to be resetted every couple of weeks. The linksys
              also frequently drops connections in major games like
              Quake, Everquest, etc, while the netgear holds the
              connection rock solid. Linksys had major problems with
              my company's VPN connection, drops connection in 10
              seconds, while the netgear worked out of the box. If it
              really bothers you so much, ebay it and get a netgear.
              Their new firewall series is around $100 (fr114w,
              fr114p) with SPI. Personally I will never buy another
              piece of linksys crap. I've used it for over 2 years and
              I've had enough.
        \_ Directv gives one static 1 address to all subscribers. The service
           has been fairly reliable for the past year except that you need to
           power-cycle their gateway once in a while. Other than static IP,
           this service is very similar to PacBell DSL in most other respects.
        \_ Try http://sonic.net. I've had no problems with them for over a year.
           You get a static IP and they do all the billing so you don't have
           to deal with PacBell at all.
2002/9/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:25857 Activity:high
9/11    So what broadband should I get in Berkeley?  AT&T cable?
        SBC-pacbell DSL?  DSL through a different firm like Earthlink
        or Speakeasy?
        \_ Do it by price.  It's mostly the same.
        \_ AT&T BI cable has 256 kbps upstream.  Other than that there is
           price and month to month vs one year contracts.
        \_ A couple points of information on the matter:
           - Check out http://dslreports.com.  Kind of information overload,
             but somewhat useful.
           - AT&T varies a lot by location, but service quality seems to
             decline steadily over time.  Six months ago the cable modem at
             my apartment was great.  Now it's more or less unusable maybe
             80% of the time.
           - All DSL providers in the East Bay are doing transit through
             Pacbell or Covad's lines.  In effect, they are resellers.
           - Most DSL providers now require a 1 year contract, and charge
             a hefty fee if you cancel service early.  The only one I've
             found that does not is DSLExtreme.  That said, DSLExtreme
             waives the cost of the DSL modem if commit to a 1 year contract.
             DSLExtreme is a PacBell reseller.
             Please let me know if you find other DSL providers that don't
             require a 1 year contract.
           - Speakeasy has excellent service and enlightened policies (i.e.
             allows you to run servers; does not arbitrarily decide to
             firewall off ports 25 and 80).  Speakeasy is a little more
             expensive than most other providers I've seen.  Speakeasy is
             a Covad reseller.
           - A friend of mine has Earthlink DSL.  It is PPPoE, which is lame.
             Earthlink DSL firewalls off port 25 so you can't use
             non-Earthlink SMTP servers.  At one point, Earthlink was owned
             by COS.  I'm not sure if COS still has a controlling interest.
             This may affect whether or not you want to do business with
             them.
             -dans
           - pacbell dsl sale: $29 first 3 months, $50 thereafter,
             1 year commit,  but free DSL modem, free self-install kit,
             and no "connection" fee.
        \_ I found http://sonic.net through http://DSLReports.com. As an East Bay (actually
           Sonoma County) ISP, it resells PacBell DSL, as the above poster
           noted. I've had very good service -- 4 static IPs, servers allowed,
           etc.
        \_ I had a good experience with directv dsl.
        \_ Once AT&T took over the @home network, service has been high=
           Quality.  But eariler, our ld motorolla modem was failing. I
           bought a Linksys modem and a Linksys router. Things now work great.
           \_ I have the opposite experience.  I had better service when
              it was @home.
2002/9/8-9 [Computer/Networking] UID:25808 Activity:kinda low
9/7     Is there any interaction between using DSL and the modem at the same
        time?
        \_ If your routes are setup correctly there shouldn't be.
2002/9/6 [Computer/Networking, Recreation/House] UID:25785 Activity:nil
9/5     anti-terrorist activity for sept. 11:
         I'm going to stimulate the economy by installing 1000sq ft
        of hardwood floor, get wireless network for home, wireless security
        system for new home. New furniture and landscape backyard.
        What are you guys going to do?
        \_ Yermom.
           \_ yermom smells.
        \_ Take my grandfather out for his 90th birthday.  "doh".  -John
2002/9/5-6 [Computer/Networking] UID:25775 Activity:very high
9/4     Hi, I'm looking for information on UCB's network.  Like what vendor
        do we use and what are the speeds of the various links.  Thanks.
        \_ traceroute.
        \_ We have an OC-48 (650 megabit, but I don't think it's all active
           yet) into Calren2 for our Internet2 link.  All our traffic goes
           to a Calren2 peering point, where our commodity net traffic
           gets sent over two OC-12's to Level3 and Qwest, which act as
           redundant connections.  (If both fail, it can fall back to
           our southern links out of UCLA).  Commodity net traffic is
           currently capped at 90 megabits/sec, soon to go up to 100 mb/sec.
           The dorms have a separate 40 megabit/sec cap, which is also due
           to rise.  SETI@Home has their own ISP link, as do a few other
           major research groups.  -tom
           \_OC-48=2.488Gb/s, OC-12=622Mbit/s, OC-3=155Mbit/s
                \_ Yes, but we don't get it all--it's shared with all the
                   northern UC campuses.  -tom
           \_ is this on a web page somewhere?  Also, do you know which
              vendor we're using at the different uplinks?  Cisco 12000 or
              Juniper M160s?
              \_ upgrades for i2 appear to be using T640s
                 \_ the T640s will be in the backbone.  What will be used
                    to connect Cal to the rest of Internet2?
                    to connect Cal to the rest of Internet2?  From a
                    traceroute, it looks like a Juniper, but it's most
                    likely not a T640.
           \_ Who else has their own ISP links?
           \_ tom, which dept oversees LSCR?
                \_ The "LS" stands for "Letters & Science"   -tom
                   \_ Yes, I know. So is your boss some non-techie at L&S?
                      There is no Berkeley Technology SuperBoss? ok, tnx.
                      \_ There has to be some PA5 somewhere in charge of this
                         stuff.
                        \_ I'm in charge of it.  I report to the Chair of
                           Deans, Ralph Hexter.  Jack McCredie has the title
                           of "CIO", but he's not in the reporting line of
                           anyone except IST, so it's not a particularly
                           meaningful title.  -tom
                           \_ Does Jack know he's not meaningful?  Have you
                              let him know this?
                                \_ I didn't say Jack was not meaningful, I
                                   said the title of CIO is not meaningful,
                                   and I have said that in various public
                                   forums.  -tom
                                   \_ tom, can I sniff your jockstrap?
                                   \_ Wow, so you're like, important?  Gosh.
                           \_ Ralph is still under L&S. What about other
                              colleges? Do they do all their network planning
                              separately or do they let L&S handle it? BTW,
                              thanks for all the info, it's nice to know this
                              sort of hierarchical stuff (why? i don't know)
2002/9/4 [Computer/Networking] UID:25764 Activity:kinda low
9/3     justin!!!!!! kelly!!!!!!!!!!
        \_ Is this a survivor thingy? americon idal?
                \_ I have no clue what's going on. I live in a cave.
                   \_ with broadband. that's the life.
2002/8/30 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25738 Activity:high
8/28    Is 22 KB/sec an average rate for a download over cable or DSL?
        \_ Uh, well, depends where you're downloading from. If it's from a
           fast site, you should be able to get a lot better.
            \_ <DEAD>sourcefource.net<DEAD>.  Actually I think I am a moron:  Via Lynx,
               I'm downloading the slackware iso onto my laptop.  I cleared
               690MB for the 673MB file, but it's writing to a temp file
               that is currently 535MB. Once it's finished, will it be able
               to write the finished file while it erases the temp file?  I
               think I should have used wget.
2002/8/29-30 [Computer/Networking] UID:25730 Activity:high
8/29    Am I cruel? I ordered two wireless PC cards and a wireless router
        from Amazon and took advantage of their free shipping for purchases
        above $50 and had it shipped in two instead of one package.
        Now they've lowered it to free shipping for $25 or above.
        If it ever gets down to like $1...
        \_ By increasing their costs, you are just making it less likely
           for them to do so.
        \_ Cruel?  No.  You can't be cruel to a company.  It's a company, duh.
           Stupid, though, yes, as the above reply makes clear.
           \_ That doesn't mean you cannot taunt the company and laugh at
              it's collective stupidity. That's okay.
              \_ "it's"?  watch those apostrophes...
              \_ Taunt?  Get over it.  They don't care.  It's a tiny box in
                 a spreadsheet somewhere.
                 \_ but, but...nweaver says so!
                    \_ oh yeah... ok in the future ill be sure to abuse various
                       company policies which benefit me as a consumer so
                       they'll stop all consumer beneficial activity and just
                       screw everyone as much as possible.  im all for that.
                       \_ You probably voated for Larouche, too.
2002/8/24-26 [Computer/Networking] UID:25673 Activity:nil
8/24    Does anyone have a multi-point wireless network at home? What
        products do you use? I bould a dsl/wireless router since it had
        an integrated switch, but it wouldn't bridge the internal switch
        with my existing wireless network. Would adding another access
        point in "infrastructure mode" and connecting it to a hub even
        work as a bridge? Thanks.
        \_ no.. 2 AP's in infrastructure mode using the same ssid
           doesnt bridge.. it screws things up.
2002/8/20-21 [Computer/Networking] UID:25629 Activity:high
8/20    My roomate hogs up most of the bandwidth. How do you configure your
        Linux router to limit the bandwidth?
        \_ burst into his room while he's downloading porn and jerking
           off.  After catching him with his pants down, he'll cut back
           on the one-handed surfing.
           \_ dont forget to take digital pics and spam them across usenet's
              queer pics groups.  maybe set up a webcam and make some money
              while you're at it.
              \_ he doesn't have enough bandwidth to do that. his
                 roomate is hogging it.
                 \_ if the site gets popular enough, the income earned from
                    running the webcam in his room could be used to buy more
                    bandwidth.
                    \_ A Stanford grad in the making....  Silly Bears can't
                       see a good business model if it bit them.
        \_ http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.html
           Mainly 2.4, but should apply to 2.2 also.
2002/8/20-21 [Computer/Networking] UID:25621 Activity:very high
8/20    For DSL, do the upload & download rates share the same bandwidth?
        \_ No.  Typical DSL is ADSL (A for Asymmetric).  The bandwidth is rated
           for download/upload separately.  I get about 1.5Mb/s dl and about
           128Kb/s ul.  At work we have business (in our case symmetric) DSL,
           with 1.5Mb/s ul/dl.  Though the minimum guarntees are less than that.
           \_ Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. Can you get both 1.5Mb/s dl
              and 128kb/s ul simultaneously? Or just one or the other, or in
              some combo?
              \_ I have not found this to be so.  If I am using all of my
                 upstream bandwidth, the download suffers badly.  It's
                 not as bad the other way around.  --PeterM
                 \_ ACK packets need some tiny but non-zero bandwidth.
        \_http://www.howstuffworks.com/dsl2.htm
        \_ as usual, the right answer was google. why do you fucks keep
           posting dumb questions in the motd?
           \_ If you pull that stick out slowly, it might not hurt as much.
           \_ did you even read your own link?  it doesn't answer the OP's
              question, dumbass.  if you're going to get all RTFW on someone
              and post google links, at least POST THE RIGHT FUCKING LINK!
              \_ Funny, didn't see anything helpful in your post.
                 \_ I don't know the anwer but I'm not posting worthless links.
                    I'm usefully pointing out that reading that link for the
                    answer is a waste of time and the link poster is a fool.
                    Thank you for your guidance and useful assistance.
2002/8/16-18 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/Networking] UID:25591 Activity:moderate
8/16    I'm not sure i'm clear on the point of an IDS like snort.
        It sits on a box behind your firewall and listens (not very
        well, if you are on a switched network) by running a tcpdumpish
        application and looks for... what?  all non-specified traffic ?!?
        Pointers to (preferably online) overview would be appreciated too.
        \_ IDS can be anomaly-based or pattern-based.  Pattern-based has a
           built-in database of "suspicious" traffic, while anomaly-based
           tries to figure out for itself what's the "norm", and looks
           for deviations.  Neither are very reliable for proactive-type
           suspicious traffic detection.  IDS are very often used for post-
           fuckup forensic analysis, trying to figure out exactly what's gone
           wrong.  I have an excellent paper written by a colleague, if you're
           interested--if you want to know something specific about IDS you
           can also mail me question.  And sign yer fuckin posts.  -John
        \_ http://packetstormsecurity.nl/papers/IDS/lisapaper.ps
           snort looks for whatever its rules say to look for
        \_ are you trying to sound like an idiot?
           \_ I think this was supposed to a classic motd "How to snort net?"
              style question gone wrong.
        \_ Ya stick it on a switch port configured as 'monitor' so it sees all
           the traffic the switch sees.  Then it looks for network patterns
           ('signatures') and alerts you of them.
        \_ For switched networks you need to plug the snort sensor in to a
           tap or mirror/span port.  See:
           http://online.securityfocus.com/infocus/1594
2002/8/16-17 [Computer/Networking] UID:25581 Activity:kinda low
8/16    Links for getting FreeBSD configured for DSL (PPoE)?
        \_ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=pppoe \
           +freebsd   -John
        \_ http://www.google.com/search?q=pppoe+freebsd   -John
           \_ url trimmed  -urltrimd
        \_ buy an smc/linksys broadband router for ~$60 and forget about pppoe
           entirely.  Oh, and you can get a firewall and vpn in one tidy
           package.
           \_ Why buy when OP obviously already owns hardware?  Silly.
2002/8/15 [Computer/Networking] UID:25567 Activity:very high
8/14    Has anyone ever used any Netscreen hardware?  I've been offered the
        use of a Netscreen 100 on indefinite loan, and I was wondering if
        it's worth the time/effort required to setup and experiment with.
        Comments/Advice on ease/difficulty of setup as well as evidence
        (anecdotal or otherwise) of the security record for Netscreen
        equipment would be much appreciated.
        \_ We evaluated Netscreens for my last (big) client.  They decided
           to buy them.  Not a good idea.  Take it if it's free--however,
           if you want to do anything reasonably advanced with them, they
           are close to useless.  This includes inter-platform IPSEC,
           debugging, whatnot.  You are far better off with a *nix running
           IPFilter for anything involving customization.  Netscreens have
           a cute web gui, and that's about it.  As below, if the price is
           right, take it--but for these, free is the only right price.  -John
           \_ Which devices have you been trying to interoperate them with?
                        -mlee
        \_ I played with two Netscreen 5 (set up a home-to-office VPN last wk)
           Not sure about the 100. Worth it to play with it, esp. if its free.
           Everything is browser-based now. Piece of cake.
           As for security, reliability and performance, I am still testing.
        \_ as a former Netscreen "consultant" and reseller... they are GREAT
           for simple stuff... crazy easy to configure and manage... but when
           it comes down to flexibility and ease of doing some crazy stuff with
           the security policy and address translation they SUCK ASS. when it
           comes to VPN... they suck ass and suck some more.. Netscreens
           are cheap and simple. use them for simple/small environ.. -shac
           \_ If you're talking about the messy UI configuration of VPNs,
              they have remedied in ScreenOS 4.0.  -mlee
        \_ I used an NS100 in an office.  Worked fine there.  Put the mail
           server in dmz, the rest in the 'trusted' zone (as if I trusted any
           of the stupid bastards at that company) and the internet is the
           untrusted zone.  Does all the basics really easily.  Free is a
           good price for it.  Keep it.
        \_ On the same token, anyone have opinions on Checkpoint FW-1 vs.
           a Cisco Pix?
           \_ Pix is very similar to other Cisco stuff as far as configuring
              it.  If you know Cisco routers, you know Cisco pix.
              \_ Cisco Pix shouldn't even be in this discussion.  -mlee
2002/8/8 [Computer/Networking] UID:25523 Activity:high
8/8     Are there any simple, more secure alternatives to BIND?
        \_ The only one I have heard of is djbdns.
        \_ Take a look at http://www.maradns.org and tell me how it goes.  - bronson
        \_ What's wrong with recent versions of bind?  You can play with
           djbdns if your concern is RFC 'correctness' and not serving names
           properly.
2002/8/6 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:25506 Activity:high
8/5     "Winning an argument on the internet is like winning a gold medal
        at the Special Olympics -- even though you're the champ, you're
        still a retard."  Talk amongst yourselves.
              because you're too superior? _/
        \_ Troll, then what are you doing on the motd?  Oh yes, trolling. bye.
        \_ That you (the op) are retard has already been established,
           no need to argue about it.
        \_ I thought it was well-put.
           \_ You sound like someone who loses arguments all the time.  There's
              nothing special about the internet.  If you can't win on the net,
              you can't win in the real world either.  You're intellectually
              weak and should stick to your current career path where the big
              debate is whether or not premium makes a non-premium car run
              better or not.
              \_ Arguing between two intellectuals is one thing. But you're
                 never gonna win an argument against a person whose sole
                 argument is something like "L1Nux blows! W1nd0ze rewls!" It
                 doesn't matter how many facts and common sense points you
                 bring. You're fighting maturity, which is a no-win
                 situation. Arguing face-to-face, you at least know who
                 you're dealing with, a 45 year-old CEO or a 12 year-old punk.
2002/8/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:25504 Activity:kinda low
8/5     How would one be able to tell if DSL traffic from a home router
        is coming from just one machine or multiple machines?  Is PacBell
        sophisticated enough to detect and charge the "home networking
        fee," or are they just being evil to people who don't know better?
        And in a related question, how can they detect if multiple
        apartments are illegally bandwidth-sharing with a wavelan?
        \_ hop count
           \_ that doesn't tell if there is more than one machine back there
           \_ you could get NAT to zero this, yeah it would break traceroute
        \_ Use NAT (Linksys Cable/DSL Router)
        \_ Also I don't recall but does your MAC address go out too or does
           NAT smush over it before sending packets on?
           \_ NAT sends with whatever MAC address you give it as its external
              interface.
2002/7/30-31 [Computer/Networking] UID:25455 Activity:high
7/30    relating to networking, what is BGP?
        \_ Border Gateway Protocol.  STFW
           \_ relating to Border Gateway Protocol, what is STFW?
              \_ I know this is probably a troll, but STFW==Search
                 The Fucking Web.  Kind of similar to RTFM.
                 \_ And this "Web" thingy - where can I get my hands on one?
                    \_ I'll put its entirety on a floppy. 3.5" or 5.25"?
                       \_ Or 8" single-sided?
        \- it stands for border gateway protocol. without going into
           great detail it for internet routing ... like RIP, RIP2, ISIS,
           OSPF etc. ok tnx.
                \_ I'd like to know these things. What's a good first step?
                   I'm not a student anymore so I can't take classes.
                   \_ I found prep classes for the CCNA (Cisco exam) to be
                      a very good introductory step to basic routing, if
                      you're not too familiar with it.  There are some good
                      books by Cisco press, which explain the same material
                      very well, if you don't mind a bit of a Cisco spin.
                      http://www.routergod.com has introduction to the same
                      stuff, by REAL CELEBRITIES!  And to answer your original
                      question, BGP is a routing protocol generally used to
                      separate routing entities, such as OSPF 'areas', from
                      each other (for example a company's nets in countries A
                      and B).  -John
                   \_ Why do you feel that you can't take classes?
                   \_ STFW
                   \_ I found this good to start with:   -ERic
                        /home/digital/mehlhaff/public_html/BGPTUTORIAL.ps
2002/7/26-28 [Science/Battery, Computer/Networking] UID:25429 Activity:very high
7/26    Any local places that recycle alkaline batteries for free?
        \_ Another offtopic question -- how to get rid of used up acetone?
           Since it has a half-life of 22 days in sunlight, and evaporates
           easily I just left it in the backyard in a canteen and it was
           all gone in a day.  Is there a better way?
           \_ I work in a lab where we use a lot of acetone.  We have all
              kinds of rules we have to follow to make sure that the
              organic solvents are disposed of "properly" , but
              as I understand it, it all just gets burned in the end.
              I'm sure there's a better way, but what you're doing is no
              worse than the EPA-approved official disposal method.
        \_ A little offtopic, but here's my chance to put in that
           the rayovac renewal (rechargeable alkaline) batteries work very
           well for many purposes.
           \_ How is it different from the old rechargable NiCd ones?  -- yuen
              \_ They don't lose their charge in storage, and their voltage
                 graph is sharper over time (consistently high voltage
                 and then a sudden drop-off means that your CD player will
                 just turn off instead of producing poor sound).  They
                 also don't have memory, so you can recharge them at any
                 point in their drain cycle.  They last longer per charge,
                 but their useful life cycle is lower than NiCd.  Cadmium
                 is _really_ toxic, alkalines less so.
                 \_ mmm, yummy... cadmium!
                 \_ Are they 1.5V or 1.2V?  Are they available in AA and CR123A
                    (camera battery) sizes?  About how much do they cost?
                    Thanks.  --- yuen
                    \_ I already know about (and have) these batteries. They
                        purport to be 1.5V and come in the normal 1.5V alkaline
                        sizes, like AAA, AA, C, D (I tihnk they come in the last
                        two, anyway). 4 AA's are like, ~$5-6 at fry's. -op
                    \_ op doesn't work with cable modem.  Or dsl. check out:
                        http://www.epa.gov/etv/pdfs/vrvs/06_vr_rayovac.pdf
                        \_ why do cable modems need batteries?
                           \_ for when the power goes out.
                              \_???  UPS.
                                \_ Yeah, but what about when the UPS goes?
                                   \_ Yeah how long is your dinky battery going
                                      to last if your 3 hour UPS can't handle
                                      it?  5 minutes?  Big deal.  Sometimes,
                                      you're just fucked and have to deal with
                                      it.  "five nines" just costs too damned
                                      much.
                                      \_ Apparently, it does work with
                                         UPS.  But it doesn't work with
                                         cable modem.  Cable modem just
                                         gets your account sorried.
        \_ Throw em in da Bay.
           \_ Why don't we cut em open, prop your mouth open with a crowbar, make
              you swallow them, and have your stomach acid handle the
              neutralization? Oh, and it might be interesting to watch too.
                \_ Someone a little constipated?
                \_ Econazi to the rescue, eh?  Get a clue.  It was a joke. Duh.
                   Everyone else knew that.
2002/7/23-25 [Computer/Networking] UID:25409 Activity:kinda low
7/22    How do you check whether DSL/Cable is available at an area?
        \_ http://www.pacbell.com/DSL_new/content/0,,46,00.html
           You'll have to check the other providers individually to see
           if they're also available.
             \_ It's is sometimes possible to get low speed (144) IDSL
                from other IPSs even when Pac Bell says they won't
                otherwise give you DSL.
        \_ http://www.dslreports.com -dwc
2002/7/23-25 [Computer/Networking] UID:25406 Activity:kinda low
7/22    I am considering replacing a telco provided phone service with a
        wireless phone. I want to get rid of the phone service completely.
        Will that affect my ADSL service in any way? My ADSL provider is
        DirecTV and I have heard that when the DSL service is provided by
        a third-party you can get away without paying for regular phone
        service. Are there any sodans that are doing this? Is there going to
        be any degradation in ADSL service or support once I get rid of phone
        service? Please don't suggest to switch to a cable broadband connection
        since I prefer my DSL provider.
        \_ My experience is that every DSL line must be attached to a
           regular phone line.
           In order for my second DSL line to be installed, they also
           had to schedule to install a second phone line first. -rollee
           \_ yes, you need a phone line to each DSL connection but did they
              also force you to pay the monthly rate for the phone service?
              If yes, did your DSL service provider also happen to be the
              local telephone monopoly?
              \_ I think so.  Fortunately, that bill goes to my work,
                 so I am not worrying about it. If I was going to pay
                 for it myself, I'd go cable. -rollee
           \_ My experience is phone line for ADSL, not needed for SDSL.
              \_ My experiance as well. I had SDSL,it was on a seperate line
                 that did not have phoneservice. I also had ADSL,moved.  They
                 made me remove the DSL before they would cancel the phoneline
2002/7/20-21 [Computer/Networking] UID:25396 Activity:high
7/20    I though ping and traeroute used the same protocol.  Is it possible
        to block the routing of ping requests without blocking the routing
        of traceroutes?
        \_ yes.  they both use ICMP, but different aspects of it.
           (Blocking either is probably a bad decision).  -tom
           \_ Why would you say blocking ping/traceroute is a bad decision?
              I've blocked both for years and nothing has happened.
                \_ I suppose it's OK if you're the only network user.
                   It's a bad decision on multi-user networks, because it
                   removes the only tools users have to figure out where
                   or what a problem is.  It could also block your ISP from
                   properly diagnosing a network problem.  -tom
           \- i think it is perfectly reasonable to block ping and traceroute
              for a "personal network space". for a larger institution
              obviously a decision for "everyone" depends on circumstances
              but doing it via a host-based firewall is also quite reasonable.
              if you are going to firewall in teh first place, then i dont
              thing adding these blocks is any big deal. --psb
           \_ blocking icmp at your upstream can help prevent some DDoS attacks
              though they could always switch to a different type (udp, etc)
        \_ traceroute usually uses udp for outbound, and icmp ttl exceeded
           on the inbound. ping is just icmp echo/reply.  You could
           theoretically get up to 9 hops of traceroute with ping's
           record-route option, but its not same as traceroute. depending
           on how your filters work, you could block ping and traceroute
           into your systems, and still enable it outbound. -ERic
2002/7/19-23 [Computer/Networking] UID:25393 Activity:nil
7/19    I'm switching my DSL and being give the choice between routed and
        bridged.  What is the practical difference?  Is there any reason to
        prefer one over the other?  (jfyi: I currently need need TWO usable i
        static IP addresses. One of which sits on a box which does nat
        for all the computers in my house except those two. Please Advise.)
        \_ I dunno but I find it hard to believe you _need_ that setup for your
           _house_. --helpful
           \_ What?  Having two static IPs?  I have exactly what the OP is
              trying to make at home.  It's great.  The unix box does NAT for
              ethernet hosts.  The w2k box does NAT for the HomePNA hosts and
              let's me play online games without NAT issues.  w2k runs both
              zone alarm and winroute with pretty much everything blocked. ipf
              for the unix box.  Believe it.
        \_ practially, I think you'll probably get better performance out of
           the routed because there will be less layer 2 traffic (routers work
           at the 3rd layer IIRC)...
        \_ RIP has always superceded inetd primarily because of the daemons.
                \_ What the hell are you talking about? -top
2002/7/13 [Computer/Networking] UID:25348 Activity:nil
7/12    "Gates to buy out Telecom" - BS. i really don't think so..... I
        also don't think the level 3 guys would go along with it. Gates
        is going after would telecom with the sat corp he owns along with
        McCaw. See the US market is all landline controlled by baby bells
        and Cable corps.. due to the fractured nature of the wireless
        market it is not a good investment to get into the mix.. Level 3
        is just the backbone for everyone... Paul Alan went after the
        cable corps (he owns charter communications) but gates wanted
        nothing to do with it because his visiion was on wireless and
        specifically satelite
          His plan goes back WAY WAY long time ago check out this press
        release
        http://www.att.com/press/0394/940321.pca.html
        Recently they have actually signed laumch orders to start sending
        up the birds
          I do not believe gates would get involved with landline bullshit
        when he has teledesic,, I also doubt he has any interest in the
        US. I additionally do not believe anything I read in the
        financial press.. those fuckers are DUMB idiots.
          Regarding level 3- you have no idea how PISSED I am at all the
        fucked up analysts and short sellers who just destroyed that
        stock.. I knew that they were the best (especialyl after being
        intimately involved with basically all the guys who are no
        bankrupt- level 3 was simpy the best run and best funded with the
        best IDEA, all the others were just crap) Anyway I finally threw
        in the towel on my shares last week at like $2.8 share, I simply
        could not afford to lose any more of my portfolio since it had
        basically dropped to nothing, and what happens the week after....
        its fucking bullshit.... I should really issue a report.. What
        darrin bought (and what you should sell).....
          Anyway its not very fun to see several thousand dollars do down
        the drain.
2002/7/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:25319 Activity:very high
7/9     ETA on finding out what the new IP will be?
        \_ why are they changing soda's address again?
           \_ because we're moving to linux.
              \_ cute.
        \_ first EECS got rid of shared 10mbit ethernet networks and
           consolidated those into 100mbit switched networks.  Now,
           EECS will be moving to a new network topology in conjunction
           with new network equipment.  --jon
           \_ Do you know what vendor they're using?  Cisco?  Foundry?
              Extreme?
           \_ Any benefits or just people keeping their jobs?
              \_ they are moving soda to be closer to carnivore -shac
                 \_ yeah like root isn't already running a broken sshd for
                    them right now.  the bastards.
2002/7/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:25318 Activity:very high
7/9     is 192.168.0.1 a special IP address?
        \_ yes.
        \_ it's a reserved net like 10.0.0.x/24.  i'm guessing 192.168.0.1 is
           someone's default router on their 192.168.0.0/24 net
        \_ it's a class B network address' local network.
        \_ 192.168.x.x are reserved, see RFC 1918. This range of address is
           used in zeroconf networking. See http://www.zeroconf.org or
           http://www.iitk.ac.in/techkriti/eureka/netguru/netguru.htm for more
           information. --twohey
           \_ the 192.168/16 private address block is not used for zeroconf,
              which uses 169.254/16 for its link-local addresses. -- jwang
              \_ you are correct. i shouldn't have posted while sleep
                 deprived --twohey
                 \_ Nah, keep doing it. Makes the motd more interesting.
        \_ A lot of people use 192.168.0.x addresses for router addresses
           and other general network related stuff (administrative IPs of
           PVC interfaces, that sort of thing.)  Some older equipment has
           trouble dealing with addresses with all '0's in part of the
           network or subnet bits, though.  -John
2002/6/27 [Computer/Networking] UID:25209 Activity:high
6/26  Will any old wireless lan pc card compatible with 802.11 do?
        Is that the protocol most of campus (airbears etc) uses?  I'm
        also thinking of setting up wireless net in my apt.   General
        comments are appreciated.  I'm looking at a model from D-Link,
        but brand name/model suggestions would be helpful. -darin
        \_ You want 802.11b (or g, not yet available), but plain "802.11"
           which was out before the 802.11b standard is not want you want.
           Why? There were two ways to make "802.11" cards, and the two ways
           were incompatible. That's why they made 802.11b. 802.11a is the
           new stuff coming out, so you don't want that, and g is compatible
           with a and b. I think this is mostly correct, but the short answer
           is: You want 802.11b. You should be fine assuming you don't need
           encryption.
           \_ actually.. 802.11b is backwards compat w/ the old 1mb/s 802.11.
              802.11g will be backwards compat w/ 802.11b.. 802.11a is neithr
              backwards compat w/ 802.11 nor .11b or .11g... most campus
              nets are using 802.11b and cisco aironet 350 ap's and recommend
              either an airport in a mac or in a pc either an orinocco, linksys,
              or dlink card because those are what they tend to test... cuz
              they are cheap.. -shac
        \_ D-Link is on the list of tested cards:
           http://airbears.berkeley.edu/faq.shtml#whichCard
           more generally: http://www.wirelessethernet.org/sponsors.asp
        \_ Which of these alphabet soup standards has the 'best' security?
           I'd like wireless home net but don't want god knows what floating
           I'd like wireless home net but don't want g-d knows what floating
           out over my neighbor's houses for miles around.  Thanks.
           \_ Just use application-level encryption (SSL, SSH).  Don't trust
              the wireless encryption.  Incidentally, AirBears is preparing
              to upgrade to 802.11a/802.11b dual-mode hardware.  -tom
2002/6/21 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/Security] UID:25163 Activity:moderate
6/20  I'm so confused.  Isn't 192.168.0.0 a non-routing network?   ...
        \_ http://CNC.net should not be routing these packets. Neither should
           XO really, but they might have an agreement with CNC that
           makes it hard for them to filter traffic.
        \_ Welcome to the world of routing.  Sadly, certain Network Operators
           are, shall we say, less than clued.
        \_ A lot of providers use RFC1918 addresses for 'private' interfaces;
           frame relay clouds are a good example of this.  They're not
           supposed to be routed, but rather just used within a given
           cloud or circuit for routers to be able to contact each other.
           Sometimes routing information about these slips out, when someone
           exports a default route, or doesn't filter correctly (correct
           me if I'm wrong, but aren't some protocols, like OSPF, a pain
           to filter individual routes/networks with?) so people with
           different providers will see these addresses as "existing"
           in various places.  Shouldn't do any harm, it's just not very
           clean.  -John
           \_ still, one shouldn't be using RFC1918 addresses even for
               transit links, as it will get important ICMP messages generated
               by the routes filtered out.  Things like unreachables and
               fragmentation-needed stuff. Its sloppy/bad practice. -ERic
               \- terminal administrative domains such as lbl.gov put on a
                  lot of filters like this, but for some reason, various
                  transit domains like esnet are refusing to do so ... they
                  are saying there are some performance issues ... we didnt
                  argue much or demand to see the evidence but it is possible
                  there is sort of a reason, i.e. even if the overhead is
                  small, the fraction of these packets is vanishingly small
                  --psb
2002/6/17 [Computer/Networking] UID:25123 Activity:nil
6/17    On a cisco box, are system and boot flash stored on the same chip?
        For example, if I have 8MB of each, does that mean I have a single
        16MB chip that is both system and boot flash?
2002/6/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:25055 Activity:high
6/10    Sometimes when the http://berkeley.edu net is slow, my ssh connection
        drops characters going from my computer to csua (but not in the
        reverse direction, as far as i can tell).  Why does this happen?
        Since ssh runs on top of tcp/ip, shouldn't the dropped packets get
        retransmitted?  Or is this some anti-replay feature?
        \_ 1. the sequence numbers become way out of wack for the TCP to handle.
        \_ 1. the sequence numbers become way out of wack for the TCP to
              handle.
           2. those "queued" packets get dropped eventually (think the routers
              care about your connection until time ends?)
              \_ yesh but your TCP stack should still eventually resend them.
                 I hink you have more of an OS problem than a networking one.
                 \_ I use freebsd 4.5. It still times out.  What do you use?
                    \_ Turn on keep-alives.
                    \_ My connection isn't timing out.  It's just dropping
                       characters.                      -op
        \_ winXP never times out.
        \_ I read somewhere that telnet uses UDP.  Is that true?
           \_ No.
2002/6/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:25013 Activity:nil
6/6     On NT4.0 is there a way to tell it to refresh its DNS cache?  My other
        machine rebooted and obtained a new IP addr via DHCP, while the
        original IP addr was assigned to someone else's machine which also uses
        DHCP.  Now my NT machine still thinks my other machine has the original
        IP addr.  Thanks.
        \_ On win2k you can "ipconfig /registerdns" this might also be possible
           on nt4.
2002/6/5 [Computer/Networking] UID:24993 Activity:kinda low
6/3     Can I tell internic a nameserver is at an ip address
        already registered as another nameserver? - danh
        \_ Yes, theoretically as many as you want.  A nameserver can
           handle any number of domains.  Otherwise look at
           http://www.freedns.com ; update time (24hours) is a bit suck,
           but otherwise it's okay.  -John
2002/6/5 [Computer/Networking] UID:24981 Activity:very high
6/3     Network Newbie here. I am now collecting data on my T1 lines and also
        my LAN traffic. A couple lines are sustaining 300kbps even at 5AM...
        I'm suspecting that this is streaming audio or some rogue host
        downloading several gigs of data. Actually, usage goes UP from 10PM-3AM
        Is there any way (on a Cisco box) to split up traffic monitoring
        by TCP/UDP port?
        \_ generically the answer is to stick a hub in there and sniff packets.
        \_ turn ip accounting, that'd be one way. -ERic
             \_ Thanks.
          \_ and you can also look at matches on an access list, but that would
             only get traffic measured in #packets, not bandwidth..
             \- tcpdump + some contrib ware maybe. http://tcpdump.org.
        \_ don't forget to beat the crap out of whichever idiot is doing it
           once you find them.  keep the user base cowed.
2002/5/29 [Computer/Networking] UID:24971 Activity:very high
5/28    I have two autosensing switches which won't work together.
        Both are NetGear. Anyone else have issues with this?
        \_ You using the right cable and have the uplink switch set
           correctly?  "won't work together"?  Does this mean zero
           connectivity or they just won't match up duplex?
        \_ I actually found this funny.  autonegotiation is a
           pretty hard problem.  Few people understand and follow the
           IEEE specifications on it.  My advice, disable autosense
           and configure it the way you want.
           \_ lower end netgear switches don't have a manual option.
              \_ my 5 port does
2002/5/20-21 [Computer/Networking] UID:24895 Activity:high
5/20    Is there a way given an ethernet address to get the corresponding ip?
        [i.e. something that will probe your subnet for a matching ethernet
        address]
        \_ arp
           \_ ping your broadcast address and then use arp.
              you ping first so you can populate your arp cache which
              would probably be pretty empty -- it gets cleared pretty
              quickly.  You may also benefit from pings to each of the
              addresses on your subnet since some hosts may (intentionally)
              fail to respond to icmp echo req's sent to the broadcast
              address.  -yoda
              \_ Is there a way to write out a packet onto the local subnet
                 with a known ethernet address and have that frame pickedup
                 by the corresponding machine and then have that send back a
                 packet with its ip address. normal RARP users an all ones
                 broadcast so another machines can answer the RARP query,
                 but isnt there a way just to ask the single machine matching
                 the ethernet address you are looking for?
                 \_ not without coding
                 \_ Via the persistant info on the switch?
2002/5/19-21 [Computer/Networking] UID:24883 Activity:high
5/20    So this "Great Logout" thing - I hear skotos has 802.11b. Will
        the party sport bouncers to check for laptops? Can we airsnort
        the WEP and get on {#hoserchat,hoserchat,wall}? I mean various
        #1 fans need to be kept apprised of developments!
        \_ hey... this just gave me a good idea... how about some live
           streaming video of the festivities for those not able to
           attend.
           \_ Yes. But how to implement the live streaming sangria over IP?
        \_ Will Nick Weaver be there?
           \_ why don't you just go back to your AOL and your buddy lists?
           \_ And why can't you attend?
              \_ I live on the moon.
                 \_ Then you thrown the party next time.
2002/5/13-14 [Computer/Networking] UID:24814 Activity:high
5/13    Suppose I send something to localhost or the local name. Will the
        computer be smart enough to not route stuff on the interface card?
        I've noticed that I'm getting 92Mbps on FTP across my LAN, but
        a whopping 200Mbps using localhost name (I have a 100Mbps LAN). I'm
        wondering how that could happen.
        \_ Do the LEDs on your hub or the card actually blink?  I guess your
           monitor software is just not smart enough to connect to the right
           layer.
           \- normally lopback stuff doesnt hit the wire. however in
              freebsd if memory server, you can change something so that
              traffic for the locahost's ip does get put on the net.
              i dont have to to lookup details now but if you cant figure
              this out i might be able to help more later. --psb
           \_ Well the computer's in the lab (E450) so I can't check. I got
              the throughput using my home brewed network hogger. I've
              verified 1 process =~ 92Mbps, and 2 process =~ 89Mbps, etc...
                \_ why lower throughput with 2 processes? Broadcast conflict?
        \_ Normally yes - look at netstat -rn and notice that localhost has
           a special route that goes through the loopback device instead of
           your ethernet device and has a much higher MTU.
2002/5/11 [Computer/Networking] UID:24792 Activity:high
5/10    I've noticed that i've been getting a max 60KB/sec download on my
        cable modem (charter pipeline).  Compared do you other people,
        does this download suck? - person not in bay area.
        \_ I get 150 KB on my pacbell DSL.
        \_ 99% of the 1.5mbs promised on dl.  16KB/sec up cap.  AT&Tbi @home
           \_ 1.1mbs dl, 110kbs up. Sunnyvale At Home.
2002/5/8-9 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/Networking] UID:24767 Activity:kinda low
5/8     Is Cisco hiring? I LOVE CISCO.
        \_ You just want to eat lunch at the 99 Ranch complex everyday and
           scope out the h0t ch1x.
           \_ There are h0t ch1x over there on weekdays?
             \_ At about 3PM all the Asian schoolgirls arrive.
           \_ Try the thai place on the southern arm.  they're quite decent.
2002/5/8-9 [Computer/Networking] UID:24752 Activity:very high
5/7     Do people actually run DHCP off of routers? What sounds worse, using
        routers or NT boxes?
        \_ routers have less virii..  i'd feel much more comfortable running
                             \_ you misspelled "viruses"
                                \_ and it's "fewer viruses," not "less
                                   viruses" (while we're being pedantic).
           dhcp from a cisco router than windows.
        \_ do you have any unix boxes? you could use a unix box as your dhcp
           server, and if you've got a cisco box, use "ip helper" to forward
           your dhcp packets across routers to your dhcp server. teh server
           can assign ip's based on originating subnet.
           \_ we do have a few unix boxes in our NOC running our web server,
              mail, etc. thanks.
        \_ I wouldn't do it off a router that's accessible to the outside.
           A breakin would just give away that much more info and control to
           an attacker.  unix,windows,etc can all easily run dhcp.  It's a
           very low end service even for a large network of hundreds or even
           thousands of machines.  The router management tools will suck in
           comparison to dhcp on any OS.
        \_ I don't understand... what's wrong with using a router for DHCP?
           Sorry to be naive.
        \_ thousands do just fine using dhcp services on linksys dsl routers.
           \_ thats not a real router nor real dhcp.  might as well do static
              assignment.  we're talking real environments not toys.  for toys
              it doesn't matter.  linksys dsl indeed... it's not even a real
              router.
                \_  if it forwards a packet, it's a router.
                    \_ I shall explain again: if you're using a dsl line then
                       you dont have enough machines to worry about dhcp.  If
                       you have a lot of machines such that you need dhpc, you
                       don't have a dsl line or linksys 'router'.  For your 2
                       linux boxes and a windows game machine behind your
                       linksys dsl 'router' you can easily do static ip and
                       not worry about it.  For an office of 50+ workstations,
                       you need dhcp to maintain sanity and you likely do not
                       run your office on a dsl line in this day and age.
                       Thank you for joining us in this conversation.  Your
                       input is appreciated.
                       \_ D00D, Y3R L1K3 5UCH 4 1337 N3TW0RX 3NG1N33R!!1!
                          C4N U T34CH U5 M0R3???
                          \_ No, I'm not elite.  I have a job.  Anyone with a
                             job or half a clue knows the same.  Thanks.
                       \_ if you support your neighbors' access to your DSL
                          line via 802.11b, DHCP is needed.
                          \_ yeah thats a popular use
                             \_ make a stupid blanket statement, pay the price.
                                \_ price? what price? theres no price and any
                                   idiot can make up anything.  if you could
                                   read youd see the parameters were already
                                   spelled out previously.  thank you for
                                   your participation.  you may leave now.
                \_ My Linksys does NAT and is a DHCP client and server.
                   \_ Yes, I'm sure it does.  See above.
2002/5/5-6 [Computer/Networking] UID:24713 Activity:kinda low
5/4     Any recommendations for DSL service providers? (southside Berkeley)
        \_ AT&T has done well by me for Cable modem service for the last
           year and a half... even that ridiculous switch of providers thing
           that they went through went off without a hitch.
           \_ ATT has non-deterministic quality.  Ask the VP.
        \_ Directv is not bad. The cost and bandwidth are the same as PacBell
           except that you get a static IP. I had to power-cycle the gateway
           once a week the last few month. Other than that, it mostly works
           fine.
           \_ "other than having to power the gateway once a week" it works
              fine.  Or maybe we could say, "other than all the lengthy
              unpredictable, unexplainable, and repeated downtime, high
              latency, low bandwidth, and dropped connections it works fine".
        \_ Very few companies give you static ip at the $50/month price you
           can get from <DEAD>directtvdsl.com<DEAD>.  They usually have lower rates for the
           first few months as well.
2002/5/2-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:24678 Activity:moderate
5/2     What's the best broadband service for under $100/month in Santa
        Clara?  Thanks!
        \_ single/mult IP? static/dynamic?  give us some boundaries, man...
           \_ single static IP.
        \_ DirectTV is $50/mo and gives you a static IP. I have been
           happy with them in Redwood City and SF. -ausman
           \_ What's the upstream rate?
              \_ Don't know if they throttle it.  when i ordered, the website
                 didn't explicitly say (or, at least, i didn't notice).
                 Haven't installed yet.  will let you know.  --scotsman
              \_ Usually it's the same as the PacBell consumer ADSL service
                 in the same area. In my case, it's 128Kbps, in Berkeley.
        \_ Alternatively, if you really want to spend all $100 per month
           you might be able to find even more attactive DSL packages
           (from speakeasy for example) with faster upload rates, SDSL options,
           multiple IP addresses, etc.
2002/5/1-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:24672 Activity:high
5/1     What's the point of the different dhcp pools in an IOS config?
        How do you specify who points to what pool? URL?
        \_ Different networks can use different dhcp pools.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/120t/120t1/easyip2.htm#xtocid432226
           BTW, is it possible to configure a router to forward DHCP packets?
           \_ same document, use "next-server" or "ip helper-address".
        \_ Has anyone else had any help w/ that document? I'm running IOS12
           and none of those "ip dhcp" commands are recognized on any of
           my routers.
           \_ None of that stuff worked for me either. -op
             \_ make sure you';re running the right feature set.
                \_ how do you do that?
           \_ I think you might need 12.1? Works fine for me.
2002/5/1 [Computer/Networking] UID:24645 Activity:nil
4/29    I never took EE122. I understand how UDP works, but in TCP I need to
        block and wait for an ACK. Is that blocking done is software, or
        is that in the hardware?
        \_ software.
2002/4/28 [Computer/Networking] UID:24620 Activity:high
4/26    What exactly is socks5?
        \_ See RFC 1928: http://www.socks.nec.com/rfc/rfc1928.txt
           Basically it is a way of connecting disconnected firewalled
           networks using a application layer proxy
2002/4/26-27 [Computer/Domains, Computer/Networking] UID:24602 Activity:kinda low
4/29    recommendations for free DNS services? (i'm about to
        go through an isp/ip transfer).
        \_ <DEAD>dhs.org<DEAD>?
        \_ http://secondary.com, http://everydns.net
2002/4/25 [Computer/Networking] UID:24583 Activity:high
4/24    If I have two T1's to two ISPs and want to do load balancing between
        the ISPs do I need to use BGP (and have an AS#?)
        \_ No, this is not strictly necessary.  That said, there are other
           other advantages.  The main one is that by getting your own ASN and
           having a BGP capable router, you can purchase your own block of IP
           address space and be multi-homed.  If you are multi-homed, and one
           of your ISPs has a catastrophic failure (read: goes out of
           business, shuts all connectivity down), you don't drop off the net,
           and you can easily replace the dead ISP.
           \_ Ok, well, our ISP "prohibits" us from getting an ASN. What does
              that mean? Well, basically, they are forcing us to use a static
              route to them.
              \_ Uh, tell your ISP to go stick there head in a pig.  This
                 sounds like a lame ploy to force you into staying their
                 customer.  Since you're already planning on getting another
                 ISP (for your second T1), make sure they are amenable to your
                 plans to eventually be multi-homed.  Get the second T1 up,
                 tell your original ISP to shove it, replace the first T1, and
                 voila, multi-homed goodness.
              \_ What ISP is this?
2002/4/25 [Computer/Networking] UID:24579 Activity:high
4/24    How many people have a Linksys, DLink, and NetGears router? How
        is it?                                 \_ or
        \_ each of those vendors offers a number of
           consumer-level broadband routers that are often made by different
           manufacturers, use different software, and have different features.
           Take a look at reviews at http://www.practicallynetworked.com Granted,
           their products are much more refined than when the market was
           created a couple of years ago. I personally use SMC 7004BR four-port
           router and I am happy with it after installing the latest firmware
           update.
           \_ I have another SMC product (the 7004AWBR, wireles router) and
              am happy owith it.
        \_ i have the linksys router/wireless access point ( BEFW11S4) and
            its actaully pretty nice.
        \_ I have a Linksys Cable Modem (BEFCMU10) and Linksys Etherfast
           Router (BEFSR41) They both work very well.
        \_ DL-704, cost $20 from BestBuy (rebate+it's returned item), does the
           job.
2002/4/24-25 [Computer/Networking] UID:24569 Activity:moderate
4/24    Say you and your buddy have broadband and want to setup VPN so that
        you can access each other's resource. How do you setup VPN?
                                        -VPN clueless
        \_ http://www.cisco.com has some good introductory docs on how VPNs work.
           If you're interested in technical details, have a look at RFCs
           2401-2410, IPSEC.  For Linux, FreeS/WAN and under FreeBSD, KAME
           are good free unix-based IPSEC implementations.  I'm assuming
           you want a reasonably transparent IP VPN;  you might also want
           to look at PPTP if you're running Windows--a google search is
           a good place to start on details of these.  I'm willing to give
           you some pointers if interested.  -John
2002/4/19-20 [Computer/Networking] UID:24489 Activity:moderate
4/18    Hey does anyone have any experience with a Force10 router?
        I am thinking about doing some work with one rather than a
        cisco 6500 ... anyone have any thoughts there?  On paper it
        looks pretty impressive. --psb
        \_ what is so impressive about it?  10gigE?  Cisco 6500,
           Extreme, and Foundry all have 10gigE linecards.  I know
           a few people working there.  They thought cisco couldn't
           deliver a 10gigE solution and would acquire them.  Too
           bad they were wrong.  Nobody will acquire them and they
           will go out of business.  The market for high end ethernet
           switching is not big enough to sustain 4-5 players. -cisco kid
           \- cisco is dropping packets causing some tcp session windows
              to resize down which is causing big hedaches on some bulk
              data xfers. seems to happen durning ACL churning. have you
              tested your routers with say 100,000 ACLs rules? we are thinking
              about extreme for soemthing else ... any thoughts there?
              and this si coming from a place that used to be close to
              100% cisco. --psb
              \_ ACL churning?  The 6500 uses TCAMs for ACLs. So do every
                 high end switch out there.  It is impossible for ACL to
                 "churn".  Either it's programmed in the HW TCAM entries or
                 it isn't.  And there's no way we can fit 100K ACEs in the
                 TCAMs.  Are you sure the packet drops aren't legitimate?
                 Something like WRED drops or you're oversuscribing? -cisco kid
              \_ Try River Stone (http://www.riverstonenetworks.com They
                 should be able to handle your needs and are about
                 90% cli compatible with IOS (several of the core
                 coders are cisco alumni). -cisco alum
2002/4/15-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:24443 Activity:high
4/15    DLink 713P or 714?
        \_ Yes.
        \_ No.
        \_ Maybe so.
2002/4/12 [Computer/Networking] UID:24426 Activity:nil
4/11    Does Java have async TCP/IP?
        \_ starting with 1.4, yes. I presume you mean non-blocking I/O
2002/4/11 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24418 Activity:very high
4/11    Do you remember how everyone made fun of Al Gore for his
        comments regarding his role in creating the Internet?  I
        just read "Infrastructure for the Global Village" in
        _Scientific_American_ (September 1991, V. 265, N. 3, pp. 150-153)
        by Al Gore, and based on this article I think he deserves a lot
        of credit for encouraging the growth of the Internet.  Back in
        1991 almost nobody new anything about computer, but Gore was
        working on legislation and writing articles about it.  -emin
        \_ back in 1987, i think Al Gore logged onto xtrek, but i
           dooshed him outta da game
        \_ Back in 1987 I was using the internet everyday and it was old then.
           So what?  As an pre-cursor to the Al Gore Internet do I get a blue
           ribbon or something?  Let it go.  He lost.  He isn't coming back.
        \_ Do you mean "Scientific America"?  BTW I was sending internet e-mail
           from my WEB account in 1990, and I wasn't even a hacker type.  (WEB
           in those days officially stood for Workstations at Evans Basement,
           which you probably don't know.)
           \_ I thought magazine names were underlined in references
              (at least according to some sites I found via google
              http://www.pwcs.edu/pwc/schools/lynn/bibfmt.htm
              <DEAD>www.bishops.ntc.nf.ca/lang2101/biblio1.htm<DEAD>  Sure
              some people at one of the world's best CS departments new
              about the Internet, but how many other politicians did?
              I just thought it was interesting that people harrased him
              so much when he legitimately did something useful.  As the
              poster below noted, I guess overstating your achievements
              is a cardinal sin when it comes to public relations.  -emin
              \_ I suspect the politicians who funded the research for it
                 when building arpa net knew about it (before Al Gore had
                 PH#1).  Then again maybe it was a pork line item in some
                 random bill.
              \_ And how man politicians other than Gore knew the
                 difference between "new" and "knew"?
                 \_ Or can spell the word "many".
                 \_ "harassed"
              \_ 1. I was just wondering by "Scientific America_N_" whether you
                 were referring to Scientic America or a different magazine
                 that imitates or is a parody of Scientic America.  I wasn't
                 paying attention to the underlining.  2. How could Gore help
                 create the Internet in 1991 when it already existed?
        \_ I remember back then, there was also something called bitnet.
           \_ And uunet too.
        \_ Yeah, Gore deserves a lot of credit. He just overstated it.
        \_ Most of that was a Republican smear campaign:
           http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore.and.the.Inte1.html
2002/3/21-22 [Computer/Networking] UID:24179 Activity:nil
3/20    I have a quantity of 802.11b wireless cards that I am looking to
        sell.  They are Dell truemobile (relabeled Lucent Gold) cards.
        $80.00 each, arrangements to pickup/delivery made separately.
        contact me via email. --Jon
2002/3/20-22 [Computer/Networking] UID:24176 Activity:high
3/20    I need to cram for a test on managing Cisco routers. Cisco Certified
        type stuff. Anyone have a reference (online or book)?
        \_ I am also looking into this.  I got the O`Reilly "IP Routing"
           as a starter book, but that's likely too general for your needs.
           I don't know if it's good since I haven't read it.
           \_ I took EECS 122 and CS 162. I am familiar with IP Routing and
              stacks and stuff. Just wanted to know which Cisco command does
              what.
        \_ I took the Cisco ICRC and ACRC courses with Global Knowledge
           (I think the courses have been combined now) and it was absolutely
           excellent--the Cisco course materials were pretty good too.  Cisco
           Press puts out very good study guides for all the certifications.
           Also I think http://ccnaprep.com has links to study/cram guides for
           all levels of Cisco exams.  -John
        \_ CCNA Cisco Certified Network Associate Study Guide by Todd Lammle
           \_ cisco "upgraded" their test 10 days ago. so this book and most
              other books at the neighborhood store are outdated. GO CISCO!
        \_ http://www.routergod.com
2002/3/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:24090 Activity:high
3/12    Why is changing channels over digital cable and satellite much slower
        than over regular cable?
        \_ mpeg-2 decode latency?
2002/3/2-3 [Computer/Networking] UID:24011 Activity:very high
3/2     I just bought a wireless access point for home(couldn't wait until
        the official 802.11a comes out) and for various WinXP reasons,
        128-bit WEP is not working on one of my machines, but the AP can
        filter by MAC address. Is MAC filtering sufficient wireless security?
        \_ No, it's trivially spoofable.  But, so is WEP.  -tom
        \_ Wireless = zero security.  If you want security you can't use
           wireless.
           \_ Using 802.11a should be fine.
              \_ there's already a break
        \_ If you want wireless security, you'll need to consider a layer3
           VPN between your stations and, say, a firewall, using something
           like KAME or Free S/WAN.  I don't know about Windows IPSEC
           implementation, but KAME tends to be pretty interoperable.  The
           scheme depends on you using a sensible authentication mechanism
           between stations, though.  -John
           \_ On campus they're doing AirBears with a Vernier captive portal,
              with authentication on the back end via a Radius server. -tom
              \_ This sounds like login-only protection.  Is there any
                 encryption going on after establishing a connection?
                 \_ Not at the network level, no.  You can, of course, use
                    end-to-end encrypted protocols like SSH.  -tom
                    \_ So a little sniffing and anyone can grab all those
                       clear text POP and telnet passwords floating around
                       campus and probably a whole bunch of other things?
                       \_ Yup.
                       \_ just like on the wired ethernet.  -tom
                          \_ Except physical access to a wired net is much
                             harder to get than to a wired net but you knew
                             that.  Why do bother?
                             \_ It is safe to say at this point that it is
                                easier to get physical access to the wired
                                net than the wireless net on campus.  There
                                are only 6 AirBears locations, while every
                                general-assignment classroom and most of the
                                libraries have open network ports.  -tom
           \_ Personally, I would keep a separate subnet for wireless and
              treat it as insecure, allowing only ssh connection.
              \_ AirBears uses VLANs, so the wireless net can only see other
                 wireless-net traffic.  But there's no firewalling.  -tom
2002/2/28-3/1 [Computer/Networking] UID:23997 Activity:high
2/28    Just got DSL. Only getting max 320k uplink per dslreports
        Tried bunch of tweaks, no change. Tried different machines.
        Tried PPPoE hardware-router box, no change. What's up? Is
        it Pacbell doing this to me? How can I check?
        \_ dude, did you get dsl for XBox?  Which carrier did you use?
           Did you take my advice and ordered DirectvDSL from Circuit City?
           It's sweet, 1.2mbps/75k (d/u).  I can't do anything about the
           upload speed though.  Used Dr. TCP from <DEAD>dslresports.com<DEAD>
           \_ Cable is 1.5/128.  What's so sweet about 1.2/75?
             \_ well, I don't get cable modem here.  My DSL speed was supposed
                to be 1.5/128.  But dslreports shows it 1.2/75.  Anyone
                know how to tract down upstream bottleneck?
        \_ 320k after the TCP/IP overhead? --oj
        \_ 320k is very good and more than they promise (128k). What
           are you getting for downlink speed? --dim
        \_ aw sh*t, sorry, I mean 320k download speed. ugh. too
           much caffeine and too little sleep. uplink is 104k, ok.
           I signed up for 384-1500/128. Are they screwing me?
           \_ Depends? How far are you away from the station? I'm right
              at the border (about 3miles away I think), and I'm getting
              ~750k
              \- hello, just out of curiosity, what are you measuing the
              per hop bandwidth with? this is kind of a hard problem i have
              some research interest in which is why i ask. or are you just
              checking you ftp speed tosome large well-connected site [i.e.
              path thruput rather than per-link bandwidth]. ok tnx --psb
              \_ like the orig. poster, i used http://dslreports.com
                 \_ Give me a more precise url than that. dslreports is a mass
                    of confusing cluttered links. I can't find anything there.
                    \- somewhere on that site is a "bandwidth tester" but it
                    isnt clear how it works, but it is clearly doing path-thrpt
                    and apparently it has kind of a low upper bound. --psb
                    \_ Some sort of client side app gets dumped on you.  God
                       only know what it's doing.  Sniffit.
2002/2/21 [Computer/Networking] UID:23936 Activity:high
2/21    Cisco sucks             -disgruntled employee
        \_ Agreed. -another disgruntled employee
        \_ would you like to explain?
2002/2/21-22 [Computer/Networking, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23935 Activity:nil
2/21    New job posting in /csua/pub/jobs for Juniper Networks.  Anyone
        know of any other places like CSUA where I can post this job req?
        TIA.  - dsw
2002/2/18-19 [Computer/Networking, Recreation/Media] UID:23903 Activity:high
2/17    I have cable modem + tv. I've heard that cable modem comes with TV
        by default. Does that mean if I cancel cable tv (and only pay cable
        modem), I can still watch it?
        \_ This depends on where you live.  I live in Fremont and used to have
       free cable tv which comes with cable modem.  But one or two weeks ago,
       I got no more free cable tv (at&t might have done something to disable
       the free cable).  But I have a friend who lives in Cupertino and still
       get free cable tv.  I know another friend who lives in Berkeley and
       never have free cable tv with his modem.
           free cable tv which comes with cable modem.  But one or two weeks
           ago, I got no more free cable tv (at&t might have done something to
           disable the free cable).  But I have a friend who lives in Cupertino
           and still get free cable tv.  I know another friend who lives in
           Berkeley and never have free cable tv with his modem.
           [ reformatted - motd formatting daemon ]
           \_ It's the video trap.  If there's one on your line, you won't get
              cable tv.  If you don't, you'll have it "for free."
              cable tv.  If there isn't, you'll have it "for free."
        \_ I live in Berkeley and have free cable tv. My friend in SF (Potrero
           Hill) cancelled his cable tv the day after (before?) he ordered cable
           modem and now gets free cable tv.
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