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2003/12/15-16 [Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11459 Activity:low
12/15   U.K. Sodans can get a free PC that comes with Adware until the
        sponsoring company goes bankrupt.  In other news, 1999 called.  They
        want their business plan back.               http://tinyurl.com/zc3a
        \_ sounds like you're stealing your wit from fark.
2003/12/12-13 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11444 Activity:kinda low
12/12   I have an external hard drive (in a case with a fan).  If I want to
        maximize the lifetime of the drive, should I leave it on 24/7 or turn
        it off at the end of the day (~50% duty cycle)?  It's in a low
        vibration enviornment.
        \_ All right, fine fine.  Here's something which came off google:
           http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/Topic7316.htm
           \_ Thanks.  It's a bit roundabout, but the concensus seems to be
              that leaving it on is good except for the fan, which isn't
              that necessary in this situation.
              \_ umm, you're going to take computer advice from a mailing
                 list for coffee roasters?
        \_ Turn it off.
           Scenario:  Your hard drive fails after 3 years.  Are you going
           to kick yourself for having left it on 24/7, or for turning
           it off at the end of the day each day?
           \_ That's not helpful.  Do I kick myself for wearing out the motor
              faster, or for inducing thermal stresses turning it on and off?
2003/12/12-13 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11430 Activity:kinda low
2/12    Experiences with inexpensive disk arrays of ~1-2TB?  RAID would
        be good, cheap < $7k or so.  NFS speed is "nice".  Thanks!  -PeterM
        \_ Haven't used them yet, but the Promise UltraTrak's look promising.
        \_ I like used NetApps. Check some of these out:
           link:tinyurl.com/yyvl (stores.ebay.com)
           http://www.stores.ebay.com/berkeleycommunicationscorporation/plistings/list/all/dept1/index.html
           This does not include a license though. -ausman
                \_ Build a box with four-eight 250GB ATA drives!
        \_ i've heard nice things about the storcase line.. there is a
           4U rackmount that takes up to 12 ATA/SATA drives and seems
           This does not include a license though. -ausman
                \_ Build a box with four-eight 250GB ATA drives!
           to sell for ~$4k sans disk.
2003/12/9-11 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11387 Activity:nil
12/9    Can someone recommend a way to read the contents of a FreeBSD
        partition with UFS filesystems from a Windows box?  It's a laptop
        disk which won't boot properly by itself, FreeBSD doesn't like the
        USB case I've put it in very much, and I don't have a Mac handy. -John
        \_ You need an NT (I'm assumming you are running NT version of Windows)
           filesystem driver for UFS. Once that is installed you should be able
           to read it. You need to basically buy this from someone. If
           it was an ext2 partition I have a driver for it, but alas UFS
           isn't amongst the list of highly utilized fs --williamc
           \_ I hope that last bit is sarcasm.
           \_ williamc seems to think John is a n00b
        \_ Probably not what you're looking for, but perhaps you can burn
           and run knoppix from the CD?
2003/12/7 [Finance/Investment, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11343 Activity:nil 50%like:29695
12/6    Can a modern hard disk operate reliably in a garage with the temperature
        change that happens when you open the garage door?  Like 50 -> 30 deg F.
        \_ shouldn't be a problem, i presumed.  The internal temperature of
           harddrive shouldn't change that drastically.
2003/11/29-12/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11265 Activity:nil
11/29   What linux command shows the current RW or RO status of a partition.
        on my debian server, mount shows these same partitions as the same:
        /dev/hda2 on /home type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
        /dev/hda3 on /sto type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
        but /dev/hda3 has some disk error and is now read only. thanks.
2003/11/23 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29663 Activity:nil
11/22   Anyone know of a USB 2.0 hard drive enclusure that supports drives over
        137GB (48-but addressing limit)? --dgies
2003/11/23-24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:11199 Activity:nil
1/23    Any recommendations for a Linux tool to merge two disk partitions into
        one. Does the partition that will get deleted would need to me
        empty? I don't want to loose the data that's on it. Thanks.
        \_ Get PartitionMagic ($70 or steal), I believe it works on merging
           Linux partitions. Get a PC running Windows, install it, then attach
           the HD to a free IDE (or SCSI) port and repartition. Non-optimal
           solution, but hey, you don't partition on a daily basis.
           \_ PM has a boot disk version.  You don't need to move the HD.
        \_ partition-mergeTwoToOne is a good tool.
        \_ You probably don't want to "lose" the data, either.
                \_ hey you're so funny!
                   \_ I'm on a roll, baby!
           \_ any experience with parted for resizing ext/fat partitions?
2003/11/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10977 Activity:moderate
11/7    I have an XP installation that reboots itself before it finishes
        booting up, and I'd like to do a fresh install but it was cd-key'd
        by my old school and I don't know the key.  Is there a way to get
        the CD-key from the repair console or from a rescue disk?
        \_ that is why I hate XP.  This may sounds unproductive, but I would
           just reinstall Windows 2000 instead.  Same kernel, same File System
           thus, same OS.  Personally, I can live without those eye candies
                    \_ Yea, some military doctors says her some of her
                       wounds are unlikely to be caused by the Humvee crash.
                       She herself remembers nothing except that she was
                       treated well througout her captivity.
           and product activation "features."
        \_ Yes, there is.  Look for "XPKey".  It took me about 10 minutes to
           find both a working key extractor and a new key generator.  The
           key generator took about 2 hours to create a valid key on my
           ancient PIII.  The key extractor takes zero time to find and display
           your current key.  No, I won't give you my name or put copies in
           /tmp or anything like that.  google.
                                        \_ is this why MS wants to buy google?
           \_ How about an URL from google?
           \_ I'll sell you a full install CD (from Dell) for $60 obo, including
              the certificate of authenticity.
        \_ A little effort and you can find a copy of XP Corporate (same as
           Professional, except without activation).  That + XPKey will get you
           working without activation.  If you have a legal license of XP Pro,
           it is (IMO) an ethical solution.
           \_ Saving files off USENET isn't any effort.
2003/11/4-5 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10923 Activity:nil
11/3    A good place to find various SCSI cables (specifically a 50-pin to
        50-pin internal with termination block) in the Bay Area? Thx!
        \_ http://www.l-com.com  Stores are for people who don't value their
           time.
        \_ Just about any computer store?  Frys?  Compusa?
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2003/10/28 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10816 Activity:nil
10/27   If I'm getting a new EIDE hard disk for my 4 year old computer, do I
        have to worry about hardware incompatibilities? My old computer
        has an EIDE drive in it, but I'm not sure what the deal is with
        terms like Ultra ATA/133 and so on. Thanks.
        \_ No.  It'll work as expected.  You may not get the super peak
           performace the drive is capable of but you won't notice since
           the rest of your computer is just as slow.  I stuck a modern 120gb
           drive into a first generation HP celeron box yesterday.  The shitty
           bios didn't know what to make of it but it worked when I put my
           own c/h/s numbers in.
           \_ uh, there might also be an addressing problem.  the old computer
              may only be able to address ~137 GB of a disk.
              \_ which is true of many newer computers
2003/10/24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10773 Activity:nil
10/24   I was on a singapore airlines plane recently and they had Video On
        Demand on every seat.  All recent movies that you can pause/reverse
        etc.  That tells me that the movies are all in digital form in a
        file server on the plane.  Anybody know more about the format of the
        files of these things?  Is it a bit-by-bit replica of whatever info
        is on a DVD?  Thanks.
        \_ Several different technologies and patents; see US Patent Nos:
           4,688,106; 5,574,662; 5,590,381; 5,671,386; and too many more.
           The list is probably even longer now - it has been a while since
           that patent search was run.
           \_ learn to use motdedit
              \_ yeah damnit
        \_ google
2003/10/24-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10767 Activity:nil
10/24   I bought an external USB case for a hard drive, and it came with a
        fan attached to the power supply which constantly runs. If I just
        have my hard drive in there can't I safely turn the (annoyingly loud)
        fan off? thanks
        \_ Just get a 2.5" enclosure and spend a bit more for a laptop drive.
        Not only is it more transportable, you won't have to worry about a
        fan.
        \_ Drives can run hot which means you're shortening the life span of
           the device.  The same is true for all computer stuff.  You can run
           a 3.2 ghz P4 without a fan, too.  It just won't run for more than
           a few seconds before it shuts itself off or burns out.
           \_ I thought P3s shut themselves down, but P4s and later throttle
              its speed down until temperatures falls?
              \_ If it was runing 100mhz would you consider that running?
        \_ If it's a low-speed drive (5400rpm), then you might safely get
           away with it. Anything higher, and what the above poster said is
           true. Inside a regular computer case, all your parts depend on the
           cooling the multiple fans provide.
        \_ Detach fan.  Close case.  Do continuous read/writes on your hard
           disk (defrag? large file copy?).  Open case.  If drive is too hot
           to touch, put fan back on.  While it's true that a 3.2 GHz P4 will
           stop in a few seconds w/o fan, heat dissipation has varied widely
           for 5400, 7200, and 10K drives of different makes and models.
           \_ Risky.  It's going to take some time for it to really heat up.
              It'd be shame if it OP tested cold and then it died over night.
2003/10/22-23 [Computer/SW/Virus, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10739 Activity:nil
10/22   My sister's computer has been making weird "clicky" sounds at startup,
        and she's also having probs starting applications (win98).  She's on
        a dialup modem and uses those free AOL discs.  The weirdest thing is
        that when she checks her email (hotmail) the username "ihatedeva"
        keeps popping up in the username field of the form.  This is not her
        email nor any of her roommates or anyone she knows.  Has anyone else
        seen/heard about this?  Google shows one livejournal user called
        ihatedeva, but nothing about viruses.
        \_ clicky sounds:  Your hard drive is due for imminent failure.  Get
           a new one.  Reformat, re-install WinXP or Win2K.
           ihatedeva:  Someone clicked "Yes" in Internet Explorer when asked
           whether they want to install a random ActiveX control.  You have
           adware!  Install SpyBot and Norton AntiVirus.
           \_ is ihatedeva specific to a certain adware program?
              \_ I don't know; it's purely a guess that it's related to
                 adware.  Also, there are settings in IE for auto-complete
                 and cookies that you can clean.
        \_ ihatedeva = Roomate's friend who used your computer?
        \_ ihatedeva = her password she accidentally typed into the wrong
            field, now IE remembers it.
        \_ Lesson: IE and yahoo and aol suck.  I agree with the above, the HD
           is going soon.  Unless... is there a floppy in there?  A bad cd?
2003/10/15-16 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10638 Activity:nil
10/15   I am looking for an mp3 player for my brother as a gift.  What
        features should I look for in a low-end (<$100) player?  I haven't
        yet decided whether to get the small memory type or the larger
        ones that fits a CD yet.  Any brands I should get/avoid?  TIA.
                                                                - brendal
        \_ I got a Panasonic mp3/cd player for $50 that I like.  Having the
           CD capacity was a major factor in my choice though.
        \_ does he run?  if so, you have to get one of those non-CD ones.
           does he like a large capacity (for < $100).  Then get the
           CD one.
           \_ definitely a thing to consider.  Even HD based players are
              known to skip when running.  As for quality, iRiver has a
              die-hard following.  And iRiver constantly releases firmware
              updates to add features.  Ogg supporting FW should be out
              sometime this month for most of their products.  I personally
              have the iFP-380T from iRiver.  Oh, and I heard Costco sells
              a cheap flash player that acts as a usb storage device, with
              the USB connector right on the device.  But it doesn't have
              any sort of display.
        \_ I had the Creative Nomad. The one that doubles as a USB storage
           device. It broke on me after the warranty period. I replaced it
           with a Sonic Blue Rio and it's been fine ever since.
        \_ Pony up the dough and get your brother the CW300.  Search for this
           on http://newegg.com.  My brother got one and he loves it.  See amazon
           for the 5-star rating/reviews.  Blows everything else out of the
           water.  I have a Creative Muvo, piece of crap compared to the CW300.
2003/10/11 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10592 Activity:nil
10/10   My laptop hd is having problems.  Won't boot.  Plugged into USB hd
        caddy, and see the two partitions on it from my desktop.  (Both
        running XP).  Both partitions show up as drives from an explorer
        window on the desktop, but accessing the second partition gives
        errors like "incorrect parameter" or "drive not formatted."  Tried
        using Partition Magic 8 to copy the whole laptop hd to my desktop
        hd, but it returned "Error #56, Can't read sector" or something to
        that effect.  Suspecting physical error, but software still seems
        to detect the partitions.  Can't afford to go to data recovery
        specialist.  What tools are there (Windows or Linux) that can help
        me recover data off laptop drive?
        \_ linux: dd each partition to a file on another drive
           then try mounting file as a loopback device.
           with like:  mount -o loop -t type filename /mnt/tmp
           "type" depends on the filsystem type. win98 is vfat. donno XP.
        \_ restore from tape.  you made backups, right?
2003/10/10-11 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10576 Activity:nil
10/10   Well I need to build a new firewall seeing as my old Linux box is dead.
        After figuring out my set up for my studio I've come to the conclusion
        that I will have half a rack slot free while the other half is being
        taken by a MIDI module.  Well can't have that last slot empty now can
        we?  So I go over to http://www.mini-itx.com and see quite a few good things
        there. Get plenty of ideas for my next home stereo and what not.  Only
        problem, I can't find a case that will be 2" high by 9.5" wide (half a
        u).  Anybody know where I can get one?
        I'm not going to be slapping a ton of gear into this machine.  The
        board I'm thinking of getting is the EPIA CL10000 board.  It has two
        nics already there.  The only thing I need to put in there would be
        a compact flash to ide converter for the file system.  Any other disk
        space needed can be mounted off a central file server with samba if I
        want.  For logging I'll just use syslog-ng and log remotely.
        So, anybody know where I can find a case to meet my requirements?
        \_ If you're feeling cute, set up a box, cut a bootable CD from
           it, and don't bother using the drive for anything but swap. -John
        \_ http://iDOT.com AKA Medialand Systems, Hayward CA
2003/10/9-10 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10559 Activity:nil
10/9    Can somebody post the SJ Mercury News link to the weekly Fry's
        newsprint sales ads?  Thx.
        \_ http://techbargains.com posts a link for the Bay Area and Orange ads
           on fridays.
        \_ http://newspaperads.mercurynews.com/advertisers.asp?aid=32664&ppg=1
           \_ Thanks.  Is there any such equivalent site that shows Fry's ads in Southern Cal area?
                \_ OC Register and LA Times used to, but it doesn't
                   appear that they do anymore.
2003/9/24 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10308 Activity:nil
9/23    I have some data tapes that I haven't touched in 5 years.  I used
        nbackup in DOS on a 486 to make the tapes.  Using the same program
        on the same computer, I am trying to restore those files.  I was
        able to open the tapes, but when I try to restore, it says
        "Cannot access tape drive" or just keeps asking me to insert the
        tape when it's already inserted.  Is it possible that the tape is
        old and that the data is lost, or is the problem more likely the
        tape drive?  How can I retrieve this data?
        \_ Does it say this for *every* tape?  Unless *all* your tapes have
           been damaged by some environmental event or they were shitty tapes
           to start with, it is more likely the tape drive is shot.  If you
           have a unix box with the right tape drive you should be able to
           at least use dd to read raw data from the tapes as a test.
             \_ Actually, since I posted that, I was able to get some data
                from one of the tapes.  But then it kept giving me error
                messages again.  I looked closely at the tape, and the tape
                is physically only connected to one spool (this was not the
                case originally), and it's not as easy as you might think
                to get it back on the other spool neatly.
                 \_ I had this same thing happen years ago. There is an
                    "end of tape" optical sensor in the drive, and if it
                     gets dusty, the drive unspools the tapes. You could
                     try to put the tape back together after cleaning the
                     dust out of the drive, but I suspect you might be out
                     of luck.  This is why I abandoned tapes, and switched
                     to hard disks backups. and disks don't make that
                     annoying whining sound when searching for files. Look
                     in the Sunday paper and get a 150GB disk for $90. use
                     an old extra computer as a backup server, or get an
                     external drive, but either way, make sure to spin it
                     up often:  hard disks can die from stiction if left
                     unused in an "off" state for too long (years).
2003/9/19-20 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10253 Activity:low
9/19    Computer manufacturers sued over hd sizes:
        http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030918/tech_computers_suit_1.html
        \_ How about 'Memory manufacturers sue consumers over mem size'?
           Said one spokesman "We're selling them 512MB chips, but they're
           getting 536MB.  We feel we should be compensated for that 24MB."
        \_ this is good news, it is time to put them in the right place.
           If the law suit succeeds, the next one should be SD/CF cards
           Since they are also falsely advertised.  I bought a 256MB SD
           card, and it turns out it only holds 241MB that is about 15MB
           of space missing. 15MB extra on a SD can store so much more info.
           \_ It's called "formatting".  The lawsuit is garbage.
              \_ No, it's 1024 versus 1000, 1,048,xxx versus 1Mil.
        \_ Just because computer scientists like to call a gigabyte 2^30 bytes
           doesn't mean HDD designers (engineers) have to abandon their 10^9
           scientific notation.
           \_ I'm an engineer not a scientist, but I go by 2^30.
              \_ Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a bricklayer!
        \_ Arrr!
           \_ Avast!
2003/9/17 [Finance/Banking, Recreation/Shopping, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10221 Activity:nil
9/16    What's the deal with http://amazon.com?  These days, half of any given order
        arrives damaged (scuffs/black marks on the book, bent covers, mashed
        corners, etc.)  If I'd wanted my books pre-damaged, I'd have gone
        shopping at Barnes & Noble!
        \_ I've orders books and other stuff from them recently, never a
           problem. They will accept returns and satisfy the customer.
           \_ I had an excellent experience regarding this.  My book cover
              was bent, and they replaced it and paid for the shipping.
              \_ yeah, amazon is much better customer service wise than say,
                 http://half.com (where the 'half' stands for half-witted customer
                 service, half-witted buyers, and half-witted sellers; on
                 the other hand, ebayers seem much more responsible
                 on the whole.)
           \_ oh yeah, i forgot, amazon did ship me a 10,000 Maniacs
              CD with a damaged case(CD was fine), but they included
              a new CD-case and a note saying "we noticed damage and
              have included a new case". The "damage" was a scratch on
              the CD-case.
        \_ I've seen a version of their shrink-wrap packaging that
           bends up the corners of soft-covered books. A supid design.
           They gave me a $5 discount on a slightly damaged order.
2003/9/13 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10181 Activity:nil
9/12    Really cute case mods. http://csua.org/u/4av
2003/9/10 [Computer/SW/P2P, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10131 Activity:nil
9/9     RIAA Rocks! They got $2,000 off of the girl who liked "nursery
        rhymes"!
        \_ urlP
           \_ http://csua.org/u/48n
              \_ A 12-year-old living in the projects who misunderstood
                 copyrights, and they got $2000.  I think I start file
                 swapping just on principle for that one....
                 \_ Lets boycott the mainstream music industry.  Stop buying
                    albums.
                    \_ I think not.  That felon shared over 1,000 copyrighted
                       songs.  And you tell me she didn't have an idea it
                       was wrong.
        \_ Anyone knows how many song she downloaded or stored on her PC?
           \_ I read it was over 1200.
        \_ i threw out all my Metallica albums cuz they were at the
           forefront of this wussiness.
           \_ of course, it's very convenient that metallica had already
              started to suck by the time napster happened.
              And Justice For All was their last decent album.
              \_ Started to suck?  They *always* sucked.  All that changed
                 is you got old enough and your taste improved enough to
                 see it.
           \_ That's probably one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
           \_ albums you already paid for?  yeah that'll hurt them.
        \_ why don't the go after the $29.99 guys instead?
           \_ duh, they've got lawyers
        \_ So, motd oracles, explain this to me:  if I rip CDs that I own
           and share them on my hard-drive, will the RIAA have a case?  Or
           does it have to be a case of mp3s I've obviously dl'd from another
           user?  And if I can't share mp3s I've ripped myself, is it even
           legal for me to be making mixed tapes/CDs for friends?  For my
           own use?  And does any of this hold any legal water or is it all
           a case of "comply or we'll bankrupt you with legal fees"?
                \_ Look, cut the semantics, just turn yourself in.
                   Criminal.  -John
                   \_ Ah, I see.  I'll just report to the nearest security
                      booth for termination, shall I, friend Computer? ;-)
                \_ Yes, no, maybe, yes, yes.
        \_ you want to stop the RIAA, help develop a celestial file sharing
           program.  broadcast/relayed queries, distributed archiving in an
           encryped partial format (so nobody knows what they've really
           cached), and swarm file downloading via UDP, ICMP, or other
           connectionless protocols with obfuscated and/or FORGED or SOURCE
           IP ADDRESSES.  It'd be nigh-unto-impossible to track where a file
           came from.  They'd have to find a way to sue the entire internet.
           Good luck RIAA.
        \_ Fight the Power. Music yearns to be Free.
           \_ Not while it's in the vested interests of the big labels to
              keep it in chains:
              http://www.taxi.com/transmitter0307/tips0307.html
2003/9/2-3 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10042 Activity:low
9/2     Any recommendations for CD/DVD burning software? I need it mostly
        for making mix-CD's, data backup, and making copies of rarer CD's
        that I have (Uneasy Listening and Brainfreeze).
        \_ I've been using Ahead Nero. Haven't had any issues with it.
        \_ Only thieves make copies of copyrighted works.  You should be
           purchasing those extra copies.
           \_ It's legal to make backups.
                \_ Uneasy Listening and Brainfreeze are both bootleg mixes
                   of copyrighted works themselves.
           \_  Whatever happened to 'fair use' rights ?
              \_ The rights to fair use have been bought by the RIAA.
                 All your tunes are... well you know how it goes.
                 \_ under US copyright law as it stands now, this post will
                    be protected for the next 90+ years.  if you copy my post
                    70 years from now, I can still sue you.  if the RIAA
                    gets their way, and it becomes a felony to put
                    copyrighted material on the web, the CSUA would then
                    be guilty of a felony if they posted the motd on the
                    web.  isn't it fun letting corporations write our
                    laws?
                    \_ really miss the days when copyright protects only
                       7 years and one 7-year extension.
                        \_ you're thinking of trademark, goob.
2003/8/26 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29466 Activity:kinda low
8/25    Do people actually verify md5 sums?  I recently ftped a linux
        distribution iso and installed it.  It seems to run fine.  Then
        by chance I run md5sum on the image and the first disk failed.
        Is this just some transmission error or something more sinister?
        \_ freebsd ports do this automatically.  You should probably try
           pulling the image again and rechecking.  it could be truly sinister,
           it could just make your system unstable down the line.  look at it
           as a strong litmus test.
           \_ I already did and the new download passed the check.  I am
                going to reinstall the whole thing.  But if it is the installer
                itself that got corrupted maliciously, should I worry about
                all the partitions of my disks and all the disks that was
                mounted when I did the installation?  That would be really
                too much pain.
                \- based on the strength [sic] of the tcp checksum
                   and the error base rate you can figure out how often
                   you can expect an undetected tranmission error.
                   we made some calculations a few years ago and when you
                   started shoveling gigabytes around you needed to start
                   worrying about these and doing some kind of stronger
                   application level checksumming. lately i havent done any
                   measurements to see if the base error rate has gone down
                   [or up say in wireless or whatever] and what the new
                   expectations might me. however i certainly am not sur-
                   prised to hear large iso or tarballs coming over long
                   paths arrived frayed at the edges. if you are interested
                   in techical details and have a general familarity with
                   tcp, you can mail me. any discussion of this on say
                   NANOG? --psb
                   \_ Google, as a result of their work, keeps track of
                      these numbers. Look up their research.
                      \- oh yeah i remember asking the google folks
                         if they do higher level checks, what chksums
                         they ue etc as the copy around parts of the
                         they use etc as the copy around parts of the
                         cache. do they "publish" these things anywhere?
                                                        --psb
2003/8/22-23 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/HW/Drives, Consumer/TV] UID:29437 Activity:nil
8/22    Has anyone installed a DVR-105 in a Mac? Did you have to install
        the firmware patch to get DVD-RW working? tia.
2003/8/13 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29331 Activity:very high
8/11    What's the fastest way to confirm that two 8GB files are exact
        copies of each other? Is something faster than md5sum?
        \_ on a reasonably fast PC, md5sum saturates the disk channel
           while hardly using any CPU.  so nothing is going to be
           faster (less I/O).
           \_ running an md5sum on the image, I get "File too large".
              any other program you can recommend?
                \_ md5sum compiled with large file support
                \- if it isnt physically sitting on one disk, there are
                   various things you can do. say with erasure codes.
                   \_ I ran "sum". files appear to be the same. -op
2003/8/12-13 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29323 Activity:kinda low
8/11    How does one determine which debian CD a specific package is on.
        I've searced google and debian, and can't find out where to look.
        \_ No reason to.  You use CD1 to install, and then net to grab the
           rest.  If you don't have net, put the package on a CD or on a
           floppy, and use dpkg to install.
           \_ Well, actually I DO have a reason:  I've installed debian
              (via my net) for somebody who doesn't have good net, and I
              want him to have the option to easily install more packages
              from CD in the future, as needed. I would like to know which
              CD's contain which packages, so that I can possibly rule out
              downloading all 7 CD's with jigdo.
        \_ I guess you could install your own system packages with
           apt-get install package --download so you save the debs
           and then burn those to cd
        \_ 'the .jigdo file for a CD contains a list of all packages that
           are on the CD. The files are compressed with gzip, so use
           "zcat somefile.jigdo | less" or similar to view them.'
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29311 Activity:high
8/11    So I downloaded a ISO disk (Redhat). What do I do with it?
        \_ Burn it to a CD. Any cd-burning software should have an option
           to write an ISO image to a blank CD.
                \_ turns out I need to get WinISO, that converts from
                   BIN to ISO. But WinISO costs $$$ :(
                   \_ WTF? Just burn them.
                      Download trial version of Ahead Nero. That definitely
                      burns ISOs
                   \_ There's a zillion freeware ISO burners and converters.
                      It's a standard format.  obgoogle, jeeze.
        \_ Don't forgot to download the second and third ISOs.
           \_ no need to burn those though as you can make a boot floopy
              off the first cd and point the install to where the iso's are
              on your hard drive.
2003/8/9-10 [Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29288 Activity:moderate
8/8     I know this has been asked before but what is a good place to get
        rid of a really really really old PC Case (not ATX)? BTW I'm keeping
        the power supply just cuz it's cool.
        \_ Sell?  Try ebay or CL.  Get rid of it?  CL, motd, or throw it out.
                              \_ CL?
                                 \_ craigslist
        \_ Alameda County Computer Resource Center http://www.accrc.org
           1501 Eastshore Avenue, near Gilman
           \_ Thank you for this.  It's the most useful thing I've seen
              on motd in at least a decade.  -pld
2003/8/1 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29203 Activity:very high
8/1     "When one watches some tired hack on the platform mechanically
        repeating the familiar phrases--'bestial atrocities', 'iron heel',
        'bloodstained tyranny', 'free peoples of the world', 'stand
        shoulder to shoulder'--one often has a curious feeling that one is
        not watching a live human being but some kind of dummy: a feeling
        which suddenly becomes stronger at moments when a light catches
        the speaker's spectacles and turns them into blank discs which seem
        to have no eyes behind them."
        - from George Orwell's 1946 essay "Politics and the English Language"
        \_ Stop picking on Gore.  He's not coming back.  Let him be.
        \_ Clinton and Reagan had charisma.  They could really connect with/
           entertain the American people.
2003/7/26-27 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29145 Activity:nil
7/25    http://www.maxtronic.com/products/enterprise.html for that raid array
        I was talking about.
2003/7/25-26 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29141 Activity:very high
7/25    Anyone changing their file-sharing behavior in response to recent
        RIAA subpoenathon?
        \_ When I get one I'll worry about it.  There is nothing to fear but
           fear itself!
        \_ i don't really do any file sharing.  but i will *never* ever
           buy another cd from those evil motherfuckers ever again as long
           as i live.
                \_ Ditto.  -John
                      \_ So all three of you are going to stop buying music and
                         only listen to radio and MTV???  Forever?
                         \_ I barely ever watch TV, rarely listen to radio,
                            and have bought 1 CD set in 9 months, in addition
                            to very rarely burning a copy off a friend.  So
                            why shouldn't I be able to change my consumption
                            habits because of something I loathe?  -John
                            \_ If you don't buy music then a boycott doesn't
                               mean anything.  I'm going to launch a boycott
                               of Russian wines.
                \_ I've found an acceptable compromise is to buy only used
                   CD's.  This allows me to consume new music, without
                   directly supporting the RIAA.  Also, since there are great
                   independent music stores in the Bay Area, I can support
                   local business.  I think it's a good balance.  On a side
                   note, I think it would be cool if someone implemented tip
                   jars for used CD's.  Basically, when you buy a used CD, you
                   can voluntarily pay a few bucks extra, and that money gets
                   passed directly to the artist.  If artists saw significant
                   revenue from something like this, it might encourage them
                   to pursue alternatives to contracting away all rights to
                   the majors, and this, in turn, could lead to real choice in
                   the music market. -dans
                   \_ tip jars?  you think raw cash on the counter top is going
                      to go to the artist and each will get the right amount?
        \_ I always have sharing turned off. I'm a leecher. I'll worry about
           the RIAA once they start cracking down on those people.
        \_ http://www.haxial.org/products/kdx/index2.html
2003/7/25-26 [Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29137 Activity:moderate
7/25    On a related note, what's a fast CompactFlash brand?  Or are they
        all about the same speed?  Thanks.
        \_ The new Lexars have pretty fast write times.
        \_ Vikings.
        \_ http://www.dpreview.com/articles/mediacompare
           \_ Thanks!
           \_ According to the forums on that site, a lot of people love
              Transcend for their speed and reliability. I have their 1GB
              model, and it's worked like a charm.
2003/7/25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29133 Activity:high
7/24    How can it be that writing to a 1GB microdrive is slower than writing
        to 1GB of compact flash ram?
        \_ why would you think that a spinning platter would be faster than
           solid state?  -tom
           \_ because you had a lot of memory keys that worked at USB speed,
              and it wasn't unreasonable to assume that the flash memory
              itself was about as fast as the USB 1.1 interface speed. -!op
        \_ aren't there slow elements in a microdrive?  Like say MOVING PARTS?
        \_ maybe spin up, disk seek time?  Isn't flash pretty fast?
        \_ What's your interface?  USB 1.1, 2.0, or FireWire?  Even if it's
           one of the last two, you have to remember it wasn't too long ago
           you had 4 GB full-size hard drives with < 5 MB/s transfer.
           I can imagine flash memory can be 5 MB/s or faster.  I just
           looked it up, and an IBM microdrive has a 5.6 MB/s media transfer
           rate.
           \_ Perhaps within a camera? My Canon S45 takes both compact flash
              & microdrives
              \_ I did another search, and one page has a microdrive using
                 a CompactFlash II interface.  The drive has a max sustained
                 transfer rate of 4.2 MB/s, whereas the interface can go
                 up to 13.3 MB/s.  So sure, you can have flash memory faster
                 than the microdrive.
                 \_ Dunno why you'd want microdrive in a camera anyway.
                    Compact Flash costs less and has no moving parts
                    \_ because there was a time when microdrives
                       were much larger than compactflash
                       \- i use microdrives and 256, 512 CFs. is the
                          data xfer rate really a big deal? i rarely
                          am shooting continuous mode ... and  suppose
                          it is epislon faster on playback but that sucks
                          up a lot of batt power. the only case where i
                          would for sure prefer one over the other is if
                          you are going to altitude. then pick cf. --psb
                          \_ There is no reason to use a microdrive these
                             days.  They are slower, use more power and
                             are significantly less reliable than CF.  -tom
                             \- dont be an ass tom. if you have one, you
                                might as well use it. perhaps there isnt
                                much reason to buy one today but as usual
                                you overstate things based on your own
                                limited experience --psb
2003/7/24-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29120 Activity:moderate
7/23    I know it was on the motd a while back, but wasn't paying attention.
        Any recommendation for a RAID enclosure that uses IDE HD, but has
        an external SCSI interface to connect to your computer?
        \_ I use this:
           http://raidking.com/rk800rfc.htm which is the same as this:
           http://www.excelmeridiandata.com/products/raid_ss16000/index.shtml
           It's really made by "miti" or something like that in San Jose.
           I'll find out if you really care.
           \_ It would be appreciated.  I'd rather deal with a local vendor.
              -op
              \_ I'll look at the box tomorrow or ask my local vendor for you
                 and repost.  I'm sure this whole thing will be gone by then.
2003/6/28-30 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28852 Activity:high
6/28    I'm "upgrading" my basement server.  I got a free new PCI-ATA133
        card with a Promise PDC20269 chip. (not raid, just fast IDE). How
        would I research if this card will work in a particular used P2
        mobo that I haven't bought yet (an Asus P2B).  I also wondering how
        a computer boots from hard disk connected through a PCI IDE
        controller card?  It can't depend on drivers, cause they'd be on
        the disk, so I suspect it needs bios support?  Seems like a silly
        question, but I've never used an add-on IDE controller before.
        \_ it'll work.
            \_ How do you know, pray tell.
            \_ Could you indluge me with a breif explanation of the
               mechanism by which that will occur?
               \_ automagic
        \_ The card has it's own bios.  The same way you stick a scsi card in
           and can automagically boot off that without drivers from disk, etc.
           As the other person said, it'll work.
           \_ Thank you!! -op
2003/6/24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28822 Activity:very high
6/23    What exactly is a refurbished hard drive?  I've been running
        my replacement Seagate refurb drive for a few weeks and
        ActiveSMART already thinks its going to fail in a 2 weeks.
        Do they just low-level format all the defective drives and
        reship them out?
        \_ Please tell me this is a troll.
        \_ well, it's a chance you took, and be a man and live with it.
           \_ well, if it is true, this is class action lawsuit material.
              \_ So you scored in the bottom quartile on the LSATs huh?
           \_ chance he took?  many hard drive manufacturers replace returned
              drives with refurbished ones.  It's as if consumers generally
              get to choose what kind of replacements they get.  anyhow, it's
              still under warranty, right?
              \_ Yea.  But remember you loose $$ for shipping the defective
                                        \_ "lose"
                 drive back everytime and warranty time while doing the
                 swap.  (It also wastes your valuable time and effort.)
                 So if I have to swap a drive a few times during its 3 year
                 warranty, the effective cost is incredibly higher than
                 the original purchase price.  This is wrong.
                 The consumer shouldn't haveta pay for the manufacturer's
                 defects when a product is still under warranty.
                 \_ I personally had better luck with my IBM SCSI harddrive.
                    I mean, for some reason SCSI harddrive gets much better
                    treatment than the IDE counter part.  Having said that,
                    if I have choice, i really don't want to go through that
                    again.  A defective Harddrive is a pain in the butt.
                    \_ Yeah, and you pay for it.  At least it use to be true
                       that each and every SCSI drive is tested, while IDE
                       drives are only batch tested.
        \_ This is a case of getting what you paid for.  Don't ever buy
           refurb drives.  Period.  --Motd Storage Guru
           \_ Hrm.  I've had very good luck with all my refurb
              drives.  I haven't lost any.  Then again, I'm talking
              about 1995 SCSI drives that work even after they start
              to lose their bearings.  But yeah, I wouldn't touch a
              refurb IDE drive.
              \_ Do you use the refurbs as temp space or for real data? -MSG
                 \_ I don't use them any more, because of space limitations,
                    however, I used them for years as my only storage, without
                    backups.  Drives *used* to be reliable, even if refurb.
           \_ I second this. My failure rate on refurbed drives is probably
              10X what it is on new ones.
           \_ I never buy refurb drives.  I buy retail drives that fail
              in a few months and get refurb drives in exchange.  Perhaps
              the guru could enlighten us on the best storage strategy in
              his/her opinion.
              \_ Depends on how much cash you've got and how important your
                 data is.  For home use, a simple IDE mirror is probably a
                 good choice.  For work I do raid3,4,5, mirrors, or 3,4,5
                 plus mirror for some stuff.  Which of 3,4,5 I use and whether
                 or not it gets mirrored as well depends on what data goes on
                 it.  Nothing is refurb.  Things like the database goes on
                 fiber channel with stripe and mirror.  Customer owned data
                 is raid4 or raid5 on IDE.  Only a little bit of scsi here and
                 there.  I figure if I'm going to shell out scsi level prices
                 I might as well get fiber channel and be done with it. -MSG
2003/6/19 [Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28767 Activity:nil
6/18    I want to buy a cheap reliable server.  It doesn't need to be fancy.
        It doesn't need to be blazingly fast (though it would be nice if it
        was.)  It doesn't need insane amounts of disk or anything.  What I
        want is it to be reliable and for it not to cost too much.  Anyone
        have a good recomendation?  Would I be stupid to go with dell or
        someone like that?
        \_ try explaining what you want to do with and how much you WANT to
           spend. you can find homemade stuff for $1k or you can buy something
           like a dell which comes with onsite warranty service.. etc.
           \_ it is a machine I want to have up for personal use but stuck
              somewhere where getting to it is hard, so if the machines goes
              down it will be a pain in the ass to fix.  It won't be hit too
              hard, I mostly want it as a machine that is up 24/7 that I have
              full control of.
                \_ i.e. porn collection in the attic / basement
        \_ Where will you be putting it? I'm looking at colo options
           right now. Would be interested to know. --aaron
        \_ I've seen some good deals from Dell that seem to fit this.
           (Like a 600SC for like 399 one time with SCSI disks)
        \_ If you want cheap, ryo is the only way to go. Get a decent
           decent mb with an athlon 2400+ (or faster) along with about
           512 MB DDR RAM and a couple of 80 or 100 GB ATA/100 drives.
           It will cheaper and faster than a Dell and just about as
           reliable (provided you run a decent OS on it).
        \_ for under 500 there are lots of random vendors on the net willing
           to custom build.  choose good motherboard, choose a cpu based on
           the heat it puts out, not it's speed, choose good fans and put it
           in well vented place, put in slower, lower heat drives and mirror
           them, put in N+1 power supplies.  it's sad to see the rest of you
           either remained silent or posted cluelessly.  it should go without
           saying that your unused video will be on the onboard chip and don't
           put in more memory or anything else more than you'll actually need.
           my crappy very low use server runs openbsd on a p5-166 with 96 megs
           of ram and under 10 gigs of old crappy drives and has stayed up
           24x7 since 1994 (minus a few moves or OS upgrades).  you can do
           better and safer today with modern low-heat parts.
           \_ is it me, you really meant p3-166 ?
2003/6/17-18 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28751 Activity:nil
6/18    How does the transfer rate of a 4x DVD drive compare to a 4x CD drive?
        \_ The 4x DVD is faster.
        \_ in terms of raw KB/s, multiply the DVD speed by 9 to get CD speed
           \_ Thanks
2003/6/17-18 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:28749 Activity:nil
6/17    I've got some old 3.5" Apple ][ disks that I'd like to read.  I
        remember that old Macs (SE, LCII, etc.)  could read Apple ][ disks,
        but I haven't been able to find any.  Anyone know where I can find
        one to use for a few minutes?  Thanks.  -- mikeym
        \_ Same question applies for 5.25 ][e disks -!op
        \_ maybe weirdstuff?  probably sell you one for next to nothing.
2003/6/13 [Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28723 Activity:nil
6/12    Extreme CDs: http://www.powerlabs.org/cdexplode.htm
2003/6/9 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28675 Activity:very high
6/8     Are Maxtor disk drives reliable?
        \_ No.
          \_ examples? sources? tests?
                \_ http://csua.berkeley.edu/~tom/fireball.jpeg
        \_ I second that no.
        \_ My past two HDs have been Maxtor DiamondMax's (the ultra quiet
           ones). No issues with either. In my limited experience, I've
           had shit luck with Quantum (are they even still around?)
        \_ http://www.storagereview.com
        \_ Maxtor bought Quantum's HD division and sacrificed their own
           DiamondMax for Quantum's Fireball line (on the SCSI they also
           chose Quantum's Atlas line).
        \_ Not really.  At my job I maintain about 3/4s of a gazillion TB. I
           replace a lot of maxtor drives.  I hardly ever replace scsi or FC
           drives except Fujitsu which I don't allow in my machines anymore.
           In general IDE drives are not reliable, period.  Get what you pay
           for in the data storage world.  All drives will break at the least
           convenient time.  That's what raid is for.
           \_ For those interested, IBM bought Fujitsu a short time ago.  I
              don't know if it's just Fujitsu's IDEs or if IBM's using all
              Fujitsu all the time.
              \_ actually you got that backwards. IBM sold it's storage
                 business / division to Fujitsu. Fujitsu now manufactures
                 and sells what were IBM drives (such as the Deskstar and
                 TravelStar). That's why IBM is using Fujitsu drives...
                 So now for the most part, Maxtor is Quantum and Fujitsu
                 is IBM.
                 \_ BZZT.  Wrong.  IBM sold it to hitachi. -jon
                    \_ sorry, yes. jon wins. fatality
                       \_ Doesn't matter who owns them.  Fujitsu drives suck.
           \_ Thank y'all. Those are good answers -op
2003/6/8-9 [Finance/Banking, Consumer/Audio, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28670 Activity:kinda low
6/8     recommendations for settings to use for cdrecord
        in unix/linux to make cds that will play in one of those
        cheap mp3/cd players?  I tried burning at 4x and
        getting rid of spaces and joliet extensions.
        \_ 4x?  If you were serious you'd burn at 1x.
        \_ many of those cheap mp3/cd won't do above 128k bps, or VBR
2003/6/1-2 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28601 Activity:very high
6/1     I want to put together a reasonably large (~250GB), reliable, and
        cheap disk array for important files and documents on a FreeBSD box
        which currently only has a couple of IDE drives in it.  I'm thinking of
        running vinum on a bunch of external drives--any recommendations on
        dependable, not-too-expensive disk racks/cases?  Speed's no issue,
        so what about scsi-2 vs. USB vs. Firewire?  Any opinions welcome.  -John
        \_ John, you can use any of a number of scsi<->ide external raid array
           units which handles raid in hardware and exposes a single 'drive'
           to the unix system.  Typical box has 8 slots and handles raid5.
           You aren't specific enough about your needs and budget, but from
           what you say I might slap a bunch of 80/100/120 gig drives in a
           box and do raid5.  If the data is important enough, I'd mirror it
           too.  Do not buy 3ware cards.  --raid guy and 3ware victim
                \_ Good tip, thanks.  I just need something that's fault
                   tolerant if a single disk goes--don't need hot-swap, which
                   is why I was thinking vinum (this'll all get backed up
                   anyway.  The prices below (~$500-600) are what I'm looking
                   for--got any specific tips on disk boxes?  I can't find any
                   decent ones in stores over here, and don't really know what
                   to look for online.  Thanks!  -John
                   \_ You might get an old "K2" raid box off ebay or something
                      like that.  External hw raid boxes might be out of your
                      price range if you've only got $600 for one, but a used
                      one might go for that.  An alternative would be to get
                      a 4 or 6 disk 3u case with hot swap support for ide and
                      then just build your unix box from that.  It'll be less
                      expensive and probably still get you what you want.  I
                      think you can get a case *and* disks for under $1000.
        \_ Why not just buy a pair of 250GB EIDE disks and mirror them?
        $258 for a 250GB hard disk....
           \_ The best price/storage ratio is currently around 120G, for $100
              a piece.  $300 for a 240G RAID 5 solution across 3 disks.
              Add in $300 for a 3ware escalade 7500-4LP ATA RAID controller if
              you don't want to do RAID in software.
              \_ nononononono! do *not* buy 3ware!!!! ever!!!  my company has
                 lost multiple terabytes to 3ware's crappy cards and drivers.
                 Do Not Buy 3Ware!  --3ware multi-terabitten victim
                \_ 3Ware cards worked fine for me.  we blew a bunch
                   of money on a raidzone, we had horrendously bad
                   luck, blew hours and hours of my life, i would
                   like to talk tons of crap about raidzone! - danh
                   \_ I've got a dozen 3ware based boxes.  I'm in the middle
                      of a multi month project to move all this data to
                      reliable hosts.  After that the 3ware boxes are going
                      to ebay or the trash or Hell.  --3ware victim
                \_ What would you suggest for similar price/functionality?
                   \_ see my comment above to John about K2 boxes and 3u
                      hot swap ide cases.
        \_ 1 TB IDE-to-SCSI hardware RAID is < $5000 . Uses 6 200 GB
           disks. I am sure there are smaller versions for less. --dim
           \_ Where can I find one of these?
           \_ I thought FreeBSD's SCSI support was much better than IDE.
              If you're willing to pay for RAID you'd do as well to go
              straight SCSI.
              \_ because scsi drives cost several times more per meg and
                 most people don't need scsi?  it just has to work.
              \_ The interface *is* SCSI. The disks are not. It connects
                 to a SCSI card and uses a SCSI driver, hence IDE-> SCSI. I
                 got mine at Western Scientific. --dim
                 \_ I believe the person meant "scsi->scsi" when they said
                    "straight scsi".  IE: not IDE drives.
                    \_ No shit, but he also said "FreeBSD's SCSI support".
                       It *does* use the freaking SCSI driver, genius!
                        \_ hey dim, back to reading comp 1A for you.  you're
                           the only one here who didn't know what everyone was
                           talking about.
                           \_ I think that would be you. Take your own advice.
                        \_ Actually, I was questioning the 1TB IDE-to-SCSI
                           part.  I guess he meant IDE disks, SCSI interface,
                           which I would call SCSI-to-IDE.  Using IDE to
                           access SCSI disks is the worst of both worlds,
                           which I think everyone agrees on.
2003/6/1 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28598 Activity:very high 50%like:28593
5/31    I had another hard drive failure recently, making this 2 drives over
        \_ ALL hard drives fail eventually.  back up your data.
           \_ ALL backups fail eventually.  back up your backups.
                \_ the return of the fucking motd comedian!  all
                   hail.  fuck off.
                   \_ actually, it's true.  if your data is important you'll
                      have more than 1 backup of it, at least 1 of which is
                      offsite, but you obviously knew this from your uber
                      genius reply to the other person above.  what your tiny
                      little mind sees as a bad joke is often the reality
                      other people work in because unlike you they have data
                      that has real value.
        2 years that have failed in under a year.  (And they weren't even IBM
        deathstars)  Is there any independent website logging failures
        to keep manufacturers honest about their MTBFs?
        \_ Could be your environment. Have you checked your powersupply
           lately?
        \_ SARS?
        \_ You using a battery backup?  I think that helps make your power
           better too.  I've had two hd crashes / slow death before, but not
           circumstances.  Don't ask if you can't contribute.
           in the 5 years since I started using battery backups.
                \_ I have UPS on one of the computers with the dead disk,
                   if that's what you mean
        \_ what brand do you use?
        \_ could be the heat, get extra fans to blow on them.
        \_ what drives are they?
                \_ Segate Baracuda IV (most recently) and some sort of Maxtor
        \_ consider a RAID?
                \_ Definitely, but if drives fail that often I'll be
                   switching disks every few months.
                   \_ which is better than losing data every few months.
        \_ There is such a site but I won't tell you until you tell us what
           make and model of drives you've had go bad and under what
           circumstaNces.  Don't ask if you can't contribute.
        \_ Drive failures have a saddle curve; disks more commonly fail within
           the first 6 months, then failures tail off until the 3-4 year
           point, where they start to gradually rise again.  MTBF of 500K
           hours doesn't mean you can expect 500K hours from your disk.  -tom
           \_ and you know all this... because?
2003/5/31 [Science/Battery, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28593 Activity:high 50%like:28598
5/31    I had another hard drive failure recently, making this 2 drives over
        2 years that have failed in under a year.  (And they weren't even IBM
        deathstars)  Is there any independent website logging failures
        to keep manufacturers honest about their MTBFs?
        \_ Could be your environment. Have you checked your powersupply lately?_
        \_ Could be your environment. Have you checked your powersupply
           lately?
        \_ SARS?
        \_ You using a battery backup?  I think that helps make your power
           better too.  I've had two hd crashes / slow death before, but not
           in the 5 years since I started using battery backups.
        \_ what brand do you use?
        \_ could be the heat, get extra fans to blow on them.
        \_ what drives are they?
2003/5/15 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:28441 Activity:high
5/14    Any ideas as to how to fix a firewire drive that won't mount?
        It's a friend's mac, and I couldn't help him, so I'm just wondering if
        it's a common problem.
        \_ show it a few videos, and try turning the lights down.  maybe
           if the mac dresses up like a PC?
           \_ I thought this was pretty funny, but you're still a jackass. -op
              \_ I can live with that. -Jackass
        \_ are you properly reading the instructions?  There is a certain
           order you connect things the first time around...
           \_ apparently it's an existing drive that has worked for awhile
              \_ Try kicking it, that sometimes works. Do you really expect
                 to solve your hardware problem on the motd? Hire a
                 technician.
        \_ Is it by Maxtor?
        \_ One known problem is that sometimes fw hd's that are put to
           sleep aren't sent the awake command. Only way to fix this is
           to shutdown the computer, unplug the drive, replug the drive
           and then reboot.
           In some cases, there are problems with bus powered drives
           because the computer can't provide sufficient power over the
           cable or there are too many devices plugged into the bus.
           If the hd is bus powered, try switching to a standalone ps.
           Also is the drive detected on the fw bus? You can check this with
           Apple System Profiler by clicking on the Devices and Volumes
           tab. In MacOSX ASP is /Applications/Utilites/Apple System Profiler.
           In OS9 it should be in <Boot Hd>/Utilites/Apple System Profiler
           or <Boot Hd>/Applications (Mac OS 9)/Utilites/Apple System Profiler.
           If the drive isn't detected, turn it off, wait a few seconds,
           turn it on and type CMD-R in the ASP window. If the drive is
           detected at this point and it still won't mount, you will need
           to use Disk Utility (OS X) or Disk First Aid and/or Drive Setup
           (OS 9) to see if there are any problems with the fs on the drive.
           If there are problems that Disk Utility or Disk First Aid can't
           fix, you probably will need to get a copy of something like
           Disk Warrior from Alsoft to fix the problems.
2003/5/6-7 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:28351 Activity:moderate
5/6     I was looking at a csua user homepage a few months ago and someone
        had worked on a project involving something about making disk
        backups to physically seperate locations, arguing that a flood or
        fire would destroy any local backups just as easily as it would your
        normal disk. anyone know the name of this project or user?
        \_ The project you describe is the Distributed Internet Backup
           System (DIBS) developed by Emin Martinian and available at
           http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~emin/source_code/dibs/index.html -emin
           \_ thanks
              \- how are you determining what to incrementally backup?
                 are you looking at file timestamps? is the unit of change
                 a file or a block of data? i.e. if 1 byte is appended
                 to a 100meg file, does a 100mb get xferred? does this use
                 rsync under the hood? ok tnx. --psb
                 \_ if you're interested in that sort of stuff, try
                    http://oceanstore.cs.berkeley.edu
           \_ Emin, were you a part of Kubi's group?
                    \_ OceanStore is a great project but it has different
                       goals.  DIBS is designed to provide a way for people
                       to exchange files for backups in a secure, robust
                       way without requiring a central authority. -emin
                 \_ DIBS stores an MD5 hash for each file and does a full
                    backup of any file which changes.  Rsync is not used
                    because DIBS uses encryption and erasure correction
                    coding and that is difficult to combine with rsync.
                    Also, DIBS is peer-to-peer while rsync requires you
                    to have accounts on both ends.  -emin
                    \- yeah i have some limited familiarity with oceanstor
                       but again for something lightweight i am curious
                       about this dibs thing. we hacked up something we
                       call the "storagelocker" with ssh keys and some
                       other access control technology and a big perl
                       script ... it works ok as a palce to write and
                       recover a bitstream but it would be nice to have
                       some smarts to reduce the traffic volume.
                       BTW, does anyone know if the hummingbird fs
                       was ever released and what performance stats
                       look like? --psb
                       \_ Although I'm tooting my own horn, I think DIBS
                          is what you are looking for.  The way I use DIBS
                          is to put links to everything I want backed up in
                          a special directory and DIBS automatically and
                          incrementally makes backups to other machines. -emin
                                \- ok i will analyze it and let you know
                                   if i incorporate it into a front end
                                   to the StorageLocker(tm) ok tnx --psb
           \_ Emin, were you a part of Kubi's group?
              \_ No.  I was in Zakhor's group at Berkeley and I'm in the
                 DSP group at MIT.  I work on DIBS because I think it's
                 cool; the stuff I do for "research" is much different. -emin
        \_ Haven't companies been storing backup tapes or disks at separate
           physical locations for years?  He's not the first to realize that
           a flood or fire would destroy any local backups, is he?
2003/4/29 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28259 Activity:high 50%like:28255
4/28    I just bought a 120GB WDC hard drive backing up stuff from multiple
        computers onto my Linux box. Any reason to make more than one
        full-sized partition?
        \_ Probably not.  Others might say something about fsck times or
           backup schedules and stuff but no, not really.  Use a journaled
           filesystem for shorter fscks and I know you're not going to tape
           so "shrug".
           \_ I always prefered a good long slow fsck...
              \_ tell yermom.
                 \_ already showed yermom.
                 \_ already showed mymom.
                    \_ how much did she charge you?
2003/4/29 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28255 Activity:nil 50%like:28259
4/28    I just bought a 120GB WDC hard drive for my Linux box for the
        purpuse of backing up multiple computers onto it. I'm trying
        to figure out if making more than one partition will diminish
        the probability of data loss if something goes wrong on the disk.
        Any suggestions?
2003/4/21 [Reference/RealEstate, Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:28177 Activity:high
4/20    I just got a "buy 4 CDs or else we bill you" notice from
        Columbia House. (I signed up in '96).  I'm tempted to respond
        saying they'd never expressed a time limit anywhere in the
        membership agreement (moreover, the ad I used to sign up
        mentions a "No-Time-Limit Membership"), but I have this
        paranoid suspicion that these letters are some columbia house
        manager's clever scheme to grift some immediate cash, and
        might save both me and customer support time if I continue to
        ignore their mailings.  Can they really cash me in now?
        I imagine almost everyone has had some experience w/
        shady CD club.
        \_ Yes, as part of the the Patriot Act.  Regime Change at Home,
           End Racism.
           \_ Hey that was a useful reply.  Not only did you complete ignore
              a decent question and turn it into some idiotic political screed
              but your rant was poorly executed and mindless.
                \_ Are you saying you expect better in the motd?
                   \_ Are you saying only white people can ride fast
                      motorcycles?
2003/4/2 [Computer/Domains, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27953 Activity:nil
4/1     Looking for a good DVD->VCD converter, where can I find 1?
        \_ http://vcdhelp.org, http://doom9.org
2003/3/24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27827 Activity:high
3/24    I dd's an entire windows disk (it had 4 partitions) to a file, and
        now I'd like to mount some of the partitions in the image. I used
        losetup, so   "sfdisk -l /dev/loop0" shows this:
        Disk /dev/loop0: cannot get geometry
        Disk /dev/loop0: 0 cylinders, 0 heads, 0 sectors/track
        Warning: The first partition looks like it was made
          for C/H/S=*/255/63 (instead of 0/0/0).
        For this listing I'll assume that geometry.
        Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes,
         counting from 0
           Device    Boot Start     End   #cyls   #blocks   Id  System
        /dev/loop0p1   *      0+    260     261-  2096451    6  FAT16
        /dev/loop0p2        261    1022     762   6120765    5  Extended
        /dev/loop0p3          0       -       0         0    0  Empty
        /dev/loop0p4          0       -       0         0    0  Empty
        /dev/loop0p5        261+    521     261-  2096451    6  FAT16
        /dev/loop0p6        522+    782     261-  2096451    6  FAT16
        /dev/loop0p7        783+   1022     240-  1927768+   6  FAT16
        Do I have to make a device called "/dev/loop0p1"? 'cause that device
        doesn't exist yet. Or is there a different way to mount the
        partitions contained in the image? Thanks.
2003/3/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27822 Activity:high
3/24    I dd's an entire windows disk (it had 4 partitions) to a file, and
        now I'd like to mount the image. What's the best way?
2003/3/18 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27736 Activity:nil
3/18    There's something refreshing about deleting most of the porn off my
        harddrive
        \_ Curious, why didn't you delete all of your porn?
           \_ 'Cause the kiddie stuff is too tought to find?
           \_ It's hard to quit cold-turkey. The rest will be gone soon...
              (yeah right!)
2003/3/15 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27704 Activity:nil
3/15    I have an aic7xxx scsi card for my scanner and an ide cd burner that
        is using ide-scsi emulation in linux. unfortunately, both of these
        devices attach themselves to scsi host 0. Whichever one I use fist
        works at the expense of the other. I can not find out a way to
        specify host0 for one and host1 for the other.  Any suggestions for
        a way to specify which scsi host#?  Also, I don't load the aic7xxx
        module at bootup, because I don't use it everyday. (I'd prefer the
        aic7xxx host to be scsi1). Thanks.
2003/3/9-10 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27637 Activity:very high
3/9     What's a good linux program to use to image a hard disk?
        I don't want to buy Ghost.
        \_ dd
        \_ I bought ghost (norton systemworks, actually) for cheaps
           on craigslist ($20).
           \_ I downloaded a free *nix installed from the net, booted from a
              floppy, installed for free, and got dd for free and I don't have
              to waste an entire box on windows either.
                \- how do image an HD w/ dd?
                   \_ Something like: dd if=/dev/hda of=/tmp/hda.img
                      You might need the conv=osync or conv=notrunc
                      option along with the bs=<block size> option
                      since the default block size on linux is 1024b
                      while I think athat POSIX dd stipulates 512b.
                      \_ at least crank you bs to something large or
                         else your dd will take FOREVER
        \_ Perhaps this is what you need: http://www.partimage.org
           \_ nonononono, he needs 'dd'.  That's it.  It's free and it runs
              on all *nix platforms.
2003/2/25-26 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27526 Activity:low
2/25    My laptop died.  So I took out its 2.5" hard drive and tried to hook it
        to the 40 pin cable in my computer and discovered that the hard drive
<       (Toshiba) has 44 pins and is not compatible.  Aren't these things
        supposed to be standardized and compatible with each other?  What
        should I do?
        \_ Get a 2.5" to 3.5" converter.  The extra pins are for power (I
           believe).  First google search resulted in this :
           http://www.cable4pc.com/hard301.htm
           \_ I ordered two of these from here and they work fine:
              http://66.216.68.88
           \_ You pick one up at Fry's for under $10. They are kind of flimsy
              Watch where pin 1 is, sometimes it's not facing power (meaning
              you'll have ot turn it upside)
2003/2/10-11 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27361 Activity:very high
2/8     I want to assemble a Firewire hard disk that is reasonably quiet (to
        be used at home).  Which case (if it matters) and drive are good?\
        \_ Why do you want Firewire external disk?
           \_ cuz I only have a laptop with 1394.
        \_ Another question, is an ata/133 drive backward compatiable with
           an enclosure that supports upto ata/100?
           \_ yes
        \_ Drive, I personally prefer the IBM/Hitachi 180GXP, but others like
           Western Digital Special Editions with big cache.  Watch out
           for how many GB the enclosure can support.  The IBM/Hitachi 40GNX
           line are good 2.5" drives.
        \_ Seagate is known for having the quietest drives in the industry;
           that might be a good place to start. --sowings
2003/2/9-10 [Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27353 Activity:insanely high
2/8     Poll: How old are you and what kind of music do you listen to
        nowadays?
        \_ 22. You guys bitching
        \_ 26, '80s punk and metal
        \_ 29.  SHAKIRA.
        \_ 29 - Back street boys
        \_ 22 Nirvana (RIP), Nas, Neil Young, Weezer
        \_ 32.  Conservative talk radio because I don't have time to worry
           about music anymore.  I see 2 of you are *soooo* close to joining
           me.
           \_ the next guy on a skateboard to spit on your windshield
              could well be me.
              \_ Unlikely.  I don't drive in the slums.
                 \_ Slums, you mean the Berkeley Hills?
           \_ who, the Shakira and BSB boys?
              \_ No, the ones listening to 80s music.
        \_ 24. Gypsy Gings, Alabina, Classic Rock, Latin Rock.
        \_ 31. Rush, Van Halen, Tool, various 80's bands
        \_ 33. NPR, TripleJ (Aussie radio), 80s and 90s punk.  32, you'll
           probably be joining me in a little while.
        \_ 35. Most recently purchased CDs: Alice charity CD,
           last two Hives albums, Strokes CD album and EP,
           and a couple Ventures CDs. Might get weezer and/or sum41 next,
           but I'm looking to convert my LPs and cassettes to MP3 on
           and a couple Ventures CDs. Might get weezer eminem and/or sum41
           60s/70s/80s albums that I need to listen to.
           next, but I'm looking to convert my LPs and cassettes to MP3 on
           this PowerBook G4. Got lots of Fleetwood Mac/Bob Dylan and other
           60s/70s/80s albums that I need to convert and listen to.
           I still listen to Bad Religion and old MoTown hits.
        \_ 30. Jazz and Rock (mostly older stuff)
2003/2/9-10 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27352 Activity:high
2/8     What is a good deal for external firewire (IEEE 1394) hard disk
        right now?
        \_ http://www.pricewatch.com is the answer to all computer questions of the
           form "what is a good deal for X computer thing right now."
        \_ $50 external enclosure from compgeeks or newegg or wherever, and
           then use whatever IDE drive you want.
        \_ You know you still have to plug in the external drive into
           the wall, not to mention lug around the AC adapter.
           \_ no, many can get power off the firewire bus.  -tom
           \_ fyi, most notebooks have the small firewire port, which
              doesn't deliver power
           \_ not for 2.5" HDDs.  there are some 3.5" HDD enclosures that
              can run everything off bus-power, but they're much less common.
              Even if you do need an adapter or a power cord, a drive
              enclosure is still more portable than carrying around a PC...
              \_ I believe you can get usb->ac dongles
                 \_ not quite. there are, hoewver, USB->DC and PS/2 DC dongles.
           \_ Can you carry a hard disk alone onto a plane?  Don't they
              sometimes require you to show it can work as a hard disk?
              \_ I tried that and they made me go into a little room with
                 no windows where a 6 foot tall federal agent named Hilga
                 forced me to strip.
        \_ So, what's a good 2.5" HDD brand that runs powered off firewire?
           I keep seeing these no-name enclosures.  I know the Iogear runs
           powered off USB 2.0, though I haven't tried it.
           \_ 2.5" HDD brand or 2.5" enclosure brand?  Most enclosures are
              about the same; just make sure you get one with an Oxford 911
              chipset.
2003/2/8-11 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27348 Activity:moderate
2/8     I'm going on a digital photography jaunt soon and I need a simple
        way to store a large amount of images from my compact flash cards.
        Is there some sort of device (say 10G of space) that would allow
        me to transfer files from the CF cards?  I don't want to purchase
        a laptop for this purpose alone, and I also don't want to buy
        several gigs worth of CF.
        \_ you need a CF->CD Burner. lemme know if you find out that this
           exists
           \_ uh, no, he needs CF->HD.  There are a number of such devices.
        \_ http://www.interactivemediacorp.com/mediaxchange.html
           http://www.mindsatwork.net
        \_ http://www.dpreview.com  Look at Storage and Media forum.  You
           are looking for something called Digital Wallet.  Cheapest
           price without HD is about $80.
           \- are you going to be near electrical power on your "jaunt"?
              if not, what are you going to do to juice up non-disposable
              battery powered stuff? does anyone have experience with a
              solar charger? i am thinking about one for 2003 Sola Khumbu
              Expedition. --psb
              \- i gave this some more thought. i dont know where you are
                 going [what kinds of conditions you will be facing] or
                 how long you will be gone or how many pix you expect to
                 take, but i think a not unreasonable idea is to beg/borrow/
                 steal as many compact flash/micro drives as you can from
                 your friends. keep in mind some drives may not work at
                 altitude, and i'd be a little nervous about carrying all
                 on one potentially fragile digital wallet ... especially
                 under harsh conditions ... altitude, dusty, crossing
                 streams etc. are you sure you will need 10gigs? i think
                 jpegs shot at 2-3megs are pretty decent quality and that is
                 300+ shots on a 1gb microdrive. if you were an associate of
                 and you had reasonable liquidity and not a history of being
                 ass, i would probably loan you my digital media in return
                 for lunch or even a good postcard. if we are talking about
                 a 3month trip, of course that is a different matter.--psb
                \_ A microdrive is more fragile than a Digital Wallet.  Even
                   if the Wallet fails, the hard disk inside will likely still
                   be usable.  -tom
        \_ it'd be cool to be able to use an iPod to this end.
           \_ or an XBox!
              \_ well... I made the iPod remark in light of psb's
                 "what about electricity" comment. ok tnx.
                  \_ Yeah, but with an XBox it's a sleek looking digital
                     entertainment center, and you'd also be able store
                     your photos on it for just $200 and you'd be socking
                     it to Microsoft.  Modchips rule.
                        \_ how is buying products from Microsoft "socking it
                           to Microsoft"?
                           \_ supposedly Xboxes are sold at a loss.
                            \_ of course if you buy one microsoft gets to add
                               1 to the numbers of xboes sold column which
                               is a big deal.  The fact that the xbox is
                               outselling the gamecube is killing the cube.
                               Also it is giving the xbox incredible amounts of
                               credibility.
        \_ try the archos jukebox multimedia with optional card
           reader.  20gb.  http://www.archos.com
2003/2/7-8 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:27346 Activity:moderate
2/7     What was the outcome of the "can a Dell XP CD be installed on
        another machine if the first was never booted?" thread?
        \_ someone was saying it was not possible with 2000. so they were
           guessing it wouldn't be possible with XP. I will probaby
           try it this weekend anyway, otherwise suck it up and buy xp.
           \_ I don't want to buy XP.  I want to SELL it.  Any takers?
              -mjm
              \_ are you selling a dell version or a normal version? and
                 how much do you want?
                 \_ I have two Dell versions.  Neither computer was ever
                    booted into XP.  $80 each?  mail me your best offer
                    -mjm
                    \_ You have to wonder whether those copies are
                       transferrable, install on non-Dell systems,
                       and/or haven't been "Dell-branded" in other ways.
                       And, isn't the Certificate of Authenticity usually
                       glued to the Dell system itself?
                       \_ The stickers come off.  I put them on the CDROM
                          package.  It should be transferable, given tha
                          I've never booted.  You should be able to call
                          MS and demand a transfer if you've got the
                          certificate of authenticity.
                          I've never booted nor agreed to any licensing
                          issues.  If it doesn't work for you, and MS
                          won't transfer the license, I'll tear up the
                          check.
        \_ Sell it on amazon for about $130. Heck, if you're reading this,
           mail mjm, buy it for $80, and make a quick $50...
        \_ I'm not sure about amazon but Microsoft is known for making trouble
           for people who try to resell their software. People who try to
           do this on eBay get their auctions stopped.
           \_ true, which is why i recommended amazon. ebay/half.com pledge
              allegiance to microsoft and france.
2003/2/5-6 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:27312 Activity:high
2/5     I'm trying to make a 16GB partition on an 80GB IDE disc for win98
        via windows fdisk.  I did this a month ago on the same hardware.
        Now, it seems to either take over all 80GB of the disk or be
        limited to 10GB, with no option in between. Any ideas how I could
        have done this last month?  The only thing that is different is
        the addition of a non-bootable PCI scsi card for my scanner.
        \_ Could be a bad setting in BIOS.  Look at how it describes the
           disk, and whether it's using LBA or some such, or not.
        \_ I just answered my own question: use 20% to specify the size
           instead of 16000MB. Gosh, ain't M$ software smart.
        \_ hey, what's the best way to partition a 160GB hard drive?
                \_ How do you plan to use it?
                   \_ windows xp home machine. applications, games, data
                      storage, maybe some music/video editing.
                        \_ I don't know, maybe 4 x 40GB partitions?
                           \_ i guess my real question is, how bad is it
                              to have 1 huge partition and why?
                                \_ 1 huge partition is often the way to go
                                   on client machines.  The only drawback is
                                   that if you have to reinstall Windows, it's
                                   easier if you have the Windows crap on
                                   its own partition.  I would advise against
                                   partitioning unless there's something
                                   specific you're trying to accomplish. -tom
                                        \_ Don't you mean "when" you have to
                                           reinstall windows.
           \_ 5 GB windows, 35 GB apps/games, 120 GB porn.
2003/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27264 Activity:high
1/31    Soda hosted web site on slashdot:
        http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/31/1436205&mode=flat&tid=12
        \- the dumbass got an A- in 7A.
2003/1/24-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27188 Activity:nil
1/24    Is there a cheap (free?) way to convert avi and wmv to VCD format?
        \_ http://www.vcdhelp.com
2003/1/15-16 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27101 Activity:kinda low
1/15    A few months back there was a really useful thread about brands of
        CD recordable media. I have had problems recording music CD's with
        Apple iTunes on a Powerbook (any tips?) - they can be seen in my home
        CD player and my computer, but not in a Thinkpad, several other PC's,
        or my car CD player. The recommendation a few months ago was
        Mitsui Gold-on-Gold, but I can't find them cheaper than about $1/disc.
        I am looking for a solid middle ground for a CD-R brand since most
        discs end up selling for about $0.10 each (on sale) in spindles of
        50 or so. Suggestions?
        \_ I'm using fry's gq (great quality) brand cd-rs and they work
           fine in my mac, athlon, cd player (sony) and my dvd player.
           Since gq spindles are so damn cheap you might want to give
           them a shot.
        \_ Check out this forum every now and then:
           http://forums.anandtech.com/categories.cfm?catid=40
           Whenever there's a blank cd deal, someone always chimes in on
           which manufacturing plant made the CD.  So stock up when a good
           one is on sale.
2003/1/15 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27100 Activity:high
1/15    any basis to this:
        http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm
        You can get money back if you bought a CD in teh last 5 years?
        \- well look at the cluase that triggers if too many people
           file. i.e. another case of class action suits only benefitting
           the lawyers --psb
2003/1/11-13 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27071 Activity:high
1/11    A power outage caused my LINUX computer to crash and fsck can't fix
        the disk because of a bad superblock.  I tried everything in
        the fsck and e2fsck and nothing fixes the bad superblock.  Any
        suggestions for fixing things or partially recovering data?
        \_ superblock is repeated every 5000 blocks or something like that.
           you can use some tool (something like mkfs... ask MOTD for detail)
           to get a list of it.  Chances are, you will have a working
           superblock.  Then, you use fsck manually specify the superblock
           you just found.  I personally has gone though this many times, and
           felt that Linux is a lot more fragile than I would like because
           of this reason.
        \_ Ok, not trying to start another FreeBSD vs Linux flame war but
           somebody has to ask.  Did Linux people wrote they own filesystem
           or did they borrowed heavily from *BSD?
        \_ sometimes, mke2fs creates backup superblocks? did it?
           also, I think the ext3 file system is more durable (next time)
           \_ fsck -b 32 (see man pages) Or use a journalled file system
        \_ Sometimes you can mount bad filesystems read-only and extract
           data.  I was able to do this on a FreeBSD partition with hard
           errors and extract a fair amount of data before the disk
           stopped responding altogether.  YMMV.
        \_ Just wondering, were you using ext3 or any of other journaling
           file systems at the moment?
        \_ Oh dear, another person learns the hard way that linux isn't
           production quality.  Eventually you kids will figure it out and
           move on to real OS's with real file systems or you'll stop putting
           useful data on bad OS's, at least.  No one ever think it'll happen
           to them....  Ext2 is a POS.  Ext3 is a POS+bad journaling.  Do not
           trust any valuable data on these filesystems.  Valuable means
           you wouldn't /bin/rm it yourself.  My cheap ass employer puts many
           many terabytes of very valuable data on ext2 with no backups.  We
           lose data all the time on those systems but not on the real ones.
           \_ My brother-in-law started a new job, sort of night-watchman
              for their computer systems.  A power-outage caused
              crashes (UPS wasn't regularly tested) Only later did they
              find data had been corrupted.  Something to do with the
              type of cheap linux disk and cache flushing or something.
              \_ is there a semi-formal discussion of this anywhere?
                 something you can point the money/management people in
                 company to?
           \_ Please give some examples of better filesystems.
                \_ These people sound like FreeBSD bigots.  I bet they have
                   UFS in mind.  Still, not even UFS will save you from a disk
                   crash.
                   \_ No, but ext2fs at least is by default mounted async b/c
                      of the slow metadata updates (rm -r/tar x taking forever)
                      Async + power outage = major fs problems.  If you mount
                      sync, your performance goes to shit.  Ext3 and FFS +
                      soft updates both solve this problem.
                  \_ No.  I wrote the "Oh dear" comment.  I don't have *any*
                     Freebsd systems.  You sound like a linux zealot defending
                     your beloved POS at all costs with no sense.  Ext3 is a
                     huge joke.  When you take a POS ext2 system which will
                     lose data on an idle system and "bolt on" a crappy wannabe
                     \_ Please give examples of better filesystems
                     pseudo-journaling system like Ext3 you don't get a JFS,
                     you get a crappy ext2 FS with crappy bolted on journaling.
                     His disk was probably bad *before* the disk crash and he
                     didn't know because he hadn't power cycled in months.  He
                     likely didn't have a disk crash from the power outage. He
                     probably had an ext2 barf all over his disk earlier and
                     it didn't show until he needed to get that super block.
                     \_ Ok, I'll bite. What makes ext3 a "pseudo journaling"
                        file system and why its journaling is considered as
                        "crappy bolted on journaling"?
                     \_ Please give examples of filesystems better than etx3
                        \_ reiser?
                        \_ vxfs.  wafl.  xfs (real xfs)
                        \_ if you're talking about Linux file systems, ext3
                           is the safest choice and it is "blessed" by the
                           leading kernel developers. I disagree with the rants
                           about ext2/ext3 here. We used ext2 at work. We had
                           power outages. Did we have to wait for hours for
                           fsck to complete? Yes. Did we lose any data? No.
                           Ok, maybe we were lucky.  Now we're using ext3. We
                           had no problems with it whatsoever. We never had
                           to fsck a file system, never lost any data. And
                           by the way, vxfs is available on Linux too,
                           as a part of Veritas foundation suite, if you'd
                           like to use a "real" file system..
                           \_ Thanks, I like your practical viewpoint.
        \_ If your data is important to you, you will use RAID. Disk failures
           happen under any O/S and there is nothing you can do about it
           but use redundancy. Anyone who tells you otherwise is full of crap.
           \_ I wouldn't stop at RAID.  You need to backup your RAID too.
              A single RAID box could be taken out by a power surge.
2003/1/9 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/HW/Display, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27038 Activity:nil
1/8     http://www.spodesabode.com/content/article/highheels
2003/1/5-6 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26995 Activity:moderate
1/5     Why aren't newsgroups working?
        \_ because the news server is off/not-accessible.
        \_ power is off in Evans this weekend, maybe the
           news server happens to be in Evans
>agate.berkeley.edu, aka <DEAD>news.berkeley.edu<DEAD>, the USENET news server,
>suffered a major disk failure this afternoon.  My current best guess
>for ETR is Saturday afternoon, given the time for hardware replacement
>and restore.  Many apologies for the inconvenience.
>
2003/1/4-5 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26990 Activity:high
1/4     Is there a reason why a card reader (compact flash or smartmedia)
        would be limited to 1.5Mbps?  Is it a function of the media or
        something to do with the USB connection?  How does an iPod get
        around this limit?
        \_ maximum speed of USB 1.1 is 1.5 Mbps.  Firewire card readers exist.
           As for iPods: 1. they use Firewire, not USB. 2. they use HDDs, not
           flash.  What the heck are you talking about?
           \_ Maximum speed of USB 1.1 is 12 Mbps >> 1.5 Mbps.  I know
              that iPods use firewire; I asked because the hardware I'm
              talking about is a Microdrive (type II CF), which probably
              isn't dissimilar to a normal harddrive.  I'm basically
              wondering if I can achieve a higher throughput with a
              different cardreader (eg, with firewire), or if it will be
              the same because of a limitation in the compact flash spec.
              \_ iPod drives are generally faster than Microdrives but the
                 limiting factor is the limitation of USB. iPod's Firewire
                 connection runs at up to 400Mb/s while USB 1.1 only runs
                 at 12Mb/s (whole order of magnitude diff).
                 \_ I've seen some USB2.0 card readers, and the fastest
                    is 6MBps, which falls well short of the possible max
                    USB2.0 speed of 60MBps, so there's got to be an issue
                    with the card specification as well.
              \_ sorry, I misread (and meant) MBps, not Mbps.  Firewire CF
                 readers are faster, yes.
2002/12/31 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26947 Activity:high
12/30   What's the best way in linux to delete or wipe the Master Boot
        Record of a hard disk.  I want to send it somewhere with nothing
        on it. essentially the way a HDD comes from the factory.
        \_ cat </dev/zero >/dev/hda (or /dev/hdb, or whatever) will wipe
           \_ Is there a Linux equivalent?
           the entire disk, including the MBR.  Be careful.
        \_ run FDISK /MBR
           \_ What happens if i run "lilo -u" and I had no MBR backup?
2002/12/30-31 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26944 Activity:nil
12/30   What should I use to copy DVD to VCD?
        \_ You can find out details on this and other related issues at
           http://www.fbi.com
           \_ you mean http://www.fbi.gov genius?  and to answer the OP's question,
              see http://www.doom9.org
2002/12/30 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26942 Activity:nil
12/28   wanted, dongle that speaks USB and firewire for the purpose of reading
        and writing to the following media: CF-1, CF-2, MicroDrive, SmartMedia,
        SD/MMC, and Memory Stick.
        \_ Why do men want what they can't have?
           \_ Because he's too stupid to realize he can't have it.
        \_ I want world peace.
2002/12/28-30 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26925 Activity:high
12/27   Anyone know of a four port IDE controller card that's well supported
        under linux? Yes, I've already STFW. -dans
        \_ promise, though i can't stand them
           \_ I can't stand Promise easier.  In fact, I'm having major
              grief with a Promise card as we speak.  I looked on their
              site, and they don't appear to list any four channel cards
              (except for a serial ATA card, but the drives I've got are
              plain vanilla ATA drives).  I see a number of two channel
              cards (total of four disks).  Did I miss something? -dans
              \_ Their raid controllers.  I've used a couple without much
                 mishap, but their plain ATA controllers, I've had die very
                 frequently. --scotsman
                 \_ Yeah, I've googled a bit more and found the SX4000, which
                    it seems promise has purged from its site.  There is the
                    considerablly more expensive SX6000, which has two ports
                    I don't need.  Also seems questionable as to whether the
                    SX4000 is supported under linux. -dans
                    \_ Check that, the SX4000 is not supported under Linux in
                       any way that I could consider remotely accepatable.
                       any way that I could consider remotely acceptable. -dans
        \_ Acard.
           \_ According to Acard's site, they support Redhat, Suse, and
              TurboLinux.  Do you know of anyone that has gotten their four
              channel RAID card working with a stock Linux kernel? -dans
                \_ They have a rpm with the source for the kernel
                   module. Just grab that and compile for your distro.
        \_ 3ware has cards that support up to 8 disks, raid & jbod.
           \_ Yup, 3ware's cards kick butt.  Alas, they are pricey.  Was
              wondering if there was anyone else in the market.  But they
              have an honest to hoyle open source driver, and that may
              convince me to give them my money. -dans
              \_ "honest to hoyle"
              \_ beware older 3ware cards.  Do *not* save yourself a buck
                 buying an older card.  I've lost hundreds of gigs of data to
                 older 3ware cards.  No problems yet on the newer ones.  Yet.
                 \_ Define 'older' please.  I was looking at an Escalade
                    7500-4.  The only thing I'm aware of that is newer are
                    the 8500 series which are serial ATA -dans
                 \_ I asked before, but looks like it got nuked, are the 7500
                    series cards sufficiently new?  The only other 3ware cards
                    I see are the 8xxx cards, which are serial ATA. -dans
        \_ I don't get the "hoyle" reference.  pls explain.
           \_ honest to hoyle, same as honest to goodness or honest to god.
              In this case, an honest to hoyle OS driver as opposed to a
              braindead binary-only driver. -dans
        \_ rock on, geek god.
2002/12/23 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW] UID:26894 Activity:nil
12/23   It seems that my "virtual" colo doesn't have an fstab or an mtab.
        (not surprising i guess, since i don't really have my own physical
        hard drive).  Anyone know of a way for me to install "quota"
        functionality without being able to change my fstab?  Do you think
        I would break shit if i removed mtab (currently a link to /proc/mounts)
        and replaced it with a plain text file exactly the same but with a
        txt file containing the same info except with the quota tag too?
2002/12/23-24 [Finance/Banking, Transportation/Car, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26893 Activity:insanely high
12/23   What's the best way to destroy CDRs?  The best practical way?
        \_ Sissors.
        \_ Toss it out the window while driving along on the freeway.
           There's no way any one will look there.
                \_ The feds can and will stop traffic to recover
                   the cds. Best way is the next post if you are
                   currently being watched. If not go for either
                   the commerical grinders or scissors. BTW, the
                   best soln. to the problem of destroying cdrs
                   is to encrypt the cdrs and keep the private
                   key on easy to destroy magnetic media (or
                   equivalent). If the feds come for you just
                   trash the private key (make sure its suitably
                   long that they can't brute force it within
                   what most judges would consider required for
                \_ Depends on how small the pieces are and whether
                   all of the pieces that contain the info you want
                   are available. A good practice is to cut the cds
                   into several (8 or so) pieces and to stick some
                   a "speedy trial"). This way, they will never
                   be able to recover the data, and without the
                   data there can be no conviction.
        \_ Steel trash can, well-ventilated area, lighter fluid.
        \_ the coating with the data is some kind of polymer.  find the
           right solvent, and dissolve it.
                \_ HCl ought to do the trick
           \_ these two solutions almsot certainly have environmental
              and health consequences.  -tom
                \_ kill the elves! - sarumon
              \_ bah! environment, health... you liberal treehugger!
        \_ Last time I checked, the polymer contains Cyanide, not something
           you really want to dissolve and allow the fluid go anywhere, no
           do you really want to burn it and inhale the gas.
        \_ Scissors. [spelling corrected --motd spelling nazi]
           \_ you can still extract data from cut CDs right?
                \_ Depends on how small the pieces are and the number
                   of the pieces that are required to reassemble
                   incriminating info. A good practice is to cut the
                   cds into several (8 or so) pieces and to stick some
                   of the pieces in the trash, then in recycle and
                   then ditch some at work and others at the mall.
                   This makes it really hard for anyone to get at
                   the data while making it pretty easy for you to
                   dispose of it. Note that this strategy isn't
                   going to work against the feds.
                        \_ why? because they search all those places
                           or something?
                           \_ the OP could be under suveillance *right*
                              *now* with the feds pouncing on every ounce
                              of waste he produces, whether at work, at
                              home, mid-car drive, or anywhere else.
        \_ Sander.
        \_ Microwave.
                \_ Note this can option can have adverse health
                   consequences.
        \_ place upside down on parking lot, pirouette.
        \_ paint the cover with AOL logo.
        \_ There are commercial grinders available that will batch-destroy
           a large set of CDs reliably.
           \- is this is same person involved in the post-browse cleanup?
              are you involved in child p0rn or something? --psb
              \_ completely new OP
2002/12/21-22 [Computer/HW/Display, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26879 Activity:moderate
12/20   My iPod<->PC rate is about 2megs/second. That is a lot less than the
        400mbps/second for a typical firewire. Is there a reason why?
        \_ Possibly inefficient implementation of PCI.
        \_ you're writing to a disk
        \_ UpdateallyourdriversP
2002/12/20 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26871 Activity:kinda low
12/19   I downloaded Easy CD-DA extractor to rip an audio CD.  This is the CD
        with one 40 minute track that I'm trying to break it up.  After
        reaching the end, it chokes and dies, and says something about
        corrupted track.  And erases the entire .wav file.  I know there're
        problems with the track near the end.  Is there another ripper that
        will let you choose how many minutes of the audio to rip?  Or one
        that's smarter about just not reading the corrupted part?  Thanks.
        \_ Undelete the .wav and go on with life.
                \_ the deleted file doesn't show up in the recycle bin.
                   If I understand correctly, only files deleted by an user
                   shows up there.  I'll try Exact Audio.  Thanks.
                   \_ that's not what undelete is. seek clue.
                   \_ Amazing how the mass availability of windows crap has so
                      utterly destroyed clue scores.  STFW for "undelete FAT32"
                      and let us know how it went.
        \_ I already told when you posted before: Exact Audio Copy.
           http://www.exactaudiocopy.de
2002/12/12-13 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26798 Activity:nil
12/12   I'm looking for a site like http://vcdtraders.com that sells vintage
        american (70s, 80s) XXX movies in VCD format.  I can find plenty that
        sells them in VHS tapes.  That's useless for me.  I want them in
        VCD format.  I know that it's bootleg and violate copyright laws.
        This is a serious request. I've done extensive searching and can't
        find any.
        \_ Sounds like a good way to make some cash on the side.  Seriously,
           ever consider contacting the publishers of the tapes and offering
           a VCD burning service?  If you don't mind being a miserable
           child-molesting PORN PEDDLER, that is  -John
2002/12/9 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26756 Activity:high
12/8    I'm building a Quiet PC. Anybody have opinions about the
        Seagate Barracuda IV? It's supposedly the quietest drive
        on the market. I'm also considering putting a 5400 RPM
        Western Digital drive in a SilentDrive enclosure. But
        the performance won't be as fast.
        \_ Performance is loud.  If you want performance you don't get
           quiet.  Let's be honest here, you don't need performance.
        \_ i have a silent pc with a barracuda iv.  works fine by me.
           it is a little eerie when the computer makes no noise.
           \_ Wimp.  If it doesn't scream like a banshee it isn't a computer.
              If you want quiet get a Palm Pilot.
           \_ Hmm, ever used a laptop before?
              \_ My laptop sometimes seems louder than my desktop.  I *asked*
                 for a cool and efficient celeron, I *got* a monster that
                 sucks power and makes noise.
                 \_ Next time, tell Santa the exact model numbers to get.
2002/12/6-9 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26737 Activity:low
12/6    Looking for recommendations for an encryption tool to protect files
        and disks.  Prefer something open source, that has been subject to
        public scrutiny.  Ideally, freeware.  Must be Windows XP compatible.
        \_ use a one time pad, and put the key on a floppy disk up your ass.
           \_ most asses other than yours are not large enough to accommodate
              a sufficient number of floppy disks to encrypt a hard drive with
              an OTP, and repeating an OTP is quite insecure.
              \_ one of those USB hard drive keychain things would fit
                 up an ass.
        \_ PGP
2002/11/29-30 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26665 Activity:nil
11/28   can dvd burners burn store bought DVDs w/ standard software or do you
        need elite pirated software?
        \_ doesn't elite pirated software just mean a pirated copy of
           standard software?  anyway, you can't directly copy store bought
           DVD movies; you'd have to get some tools to decrypt the DVD if
           it's encrypted, yank out the audio/video streams you need,
           make sure the stuff you want fits onto a DVDR, and then burn it.
           not sure about the Xbox/PS2 DVD burning...
        \_ http://www.doom9.org .  the documents there have a blind-men-feeling-
           up-an-elephant quality, but if you can do cs at berkeley, you
           should be able to puzzle things out.
        \_ burn store-bought DVDs?  What are you asking?  Yes, you can burn
           to store-bought DVD[+-]RW? media.  Where else would you buy it?
           Now, if you're asking if you can *copy* commercial DVDs, then no
           not exactly.  Commercial DVDs are typically pressed dual-layer
           discs; consumer hardware can burn only a single layer, so you
           either need to recompress or split the movie into parts.  And
           elite pirated software?  That would imply that there's commercial
           software to do such things.
2002/11/28-30 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26663 Activity:high
11/28   This is pretty gross:
        http://csua.org/u/628 - danh
        \_ Not to excuse him, but he sounds like a damn good teacher.
           \_ Why do you mention this?  Do you not understand that the type
              mostly likely to be molesting kids is the type who is going to
              go out of their way to spend time with kids?  It's kind of a
              "well, duh" thing.  None of that shit makes him a good teacher
              anyway.  Weirdo.
              \_ a guy who teaches 1/2/3 grades and went to Mills is
                 either gay or trouble or both.
                 \_ "a guy who ... went to Mills" is all we needed to know.
                    I wonder how many years he was surrounded by man hating
                    dykes fingering each other all day while he got nothing?
                    \_ does that make one gay, or just a misogynist?
                       \_ neither.  it obviously makes one a child molester.
           \_ people with normal IQ do not become teachers unless they
              are turned on by kids.  Almost all good teachers are pedophile.
                \_ Does this just apply to men, or women as well?
                   \_ just men.  women have sub-par IQs and teaching is a
                      traditional woman's job anyway so it's ok to be a stupid
                      woman teacher.  it's expected.
        \_ "He helped out with the school's clown troupe"... c'mon, everyone
           should have seen this coming a mile away.
           \_ Did he play the Kiddy Lovin' Clown?  C'mere and sit on Kinko's
              lap!
2002/11/28 [Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26661 Activity:nil
11/28   Does anyone use http://BMGMusicService.com for music?  I've noticed more
        than once that they advertise a deal (e.g., "Buy 1, Get 3 free")
        but when I actually put the 3rd free CD in my cart it comes up
        as a charged item.  Is this simple incompetence or something more
        devious?
        \_ Because the RIAA is so techie smart this must be a devious plot!
2002/11/27 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26648 Activity:high
11/26   Related to below... Does the A1000 support hardware RAID? I've got one
        sitting around in the office that I haven't bothered to plug in yet...
        \_ No, but Veritas Volume Manager works great.
           \_ You are wrong. A1000 DOES support hardware RAID. It's build
              into it.
              \_ Yes and No are the two answers I've heard so far...
                \_ The difference between the A1000 and the D1000 is that
                   the A1000 supports hardware RAID.  -tom
                   \_ but both are buggy POS devices.
                      \_ A1000 firmware and software is indeed fairly buggy
                         and requires lots of careful patching. However, I am
                         not sure how your comment appies to D1000 which is a
                         dumb JBOD. It doesn't contain any intelligence or
                         require any software to work by definition.
                         \_ the D1000 is a jbod then they plugged a RAID
                            controller in the thing and called it the A1000.
                            they expected anyone who bought the jbod version
                            to use disksuite or veritas VM.  -guy from sun
                         \_ Maybe it was just me but after 2 RMAs and an
                            electric shock I'm not going near any more A/D1000
                            units.  Both were crap.  I like the 5200s though.
                            \_ I have one that's worked flawlessly for a few
                               years now. Performance is not super and there
                               are better products for the price, but I haven't
                               had any issues with it. --dim
2002/11/27-28 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26645 Activity:high
11/26   More on raid: My company currently has about 50 TB of raw storage
        and needs about 8-10 more TB over the next year.  IDE is ok as long
        as it hot swaps and can be mirrored or raid5.  Performance is *not*
        an issue.  I'm looking for prebuilt systems with vendor support.  I'm
        already the only sysadmin for 100+ servers, 3 locations, and 50TB.  I
        don't want to build my own boxes and I don't want to ever have to do
        anything more than set an IP, (maybe config and) export a FS, and
        walk away.  Cost is an issue.  Maintainability (is that a word?) is an
        issue.  Performance is not an issue.  Reliability is an issue.  I can
        get a Netapp for $20k/TB.  Know of anything in the $10k-14k/TB range
        that fits my other needs?  Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!  I really
        appreciate all the advice given in the other thread.  --overworked SA
        \_ Bluearc? Netexpress?
        \_ If you want reliability and maintainability, go with NetApp.
           Anything cheaper than that and you are going to pay for it
           in maintenance time.
           in maintenance time. You can get a good used 700 series netapp
           for cheap. -ausman
           for cheap: just look on ebay. -ausman
        \_ maintainability is a word.  ask vadim about netapp.
2002/11/26-27 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26639 Activity:very high
11/26   A serious question about this: http://www.apple.com/xserve
        I have zero experience with recent apple hardware or software.
        My company needs rock solid NFS hosts at low cost.  Performance isn't
        an issue.  The clients will be Solaris 2.7 and Linux 2.4.  Do any of
        you have any experience with this?  Does it sound good/bad to you and
        why?  Any info, urls, whatever is much appreciated.  BTW, this isn't
        a religious issue.  I just want something that will work and isn't
        going to cost me an arm and a leg like EMC, Hitachi, or IBM and I
        sure as hell don't want to start building my own.  Thanks!
        \_ I'd be wary of any ATA array.  IDE just isn't designed for large
           file service projects.  Also, this sort of thing looks like super
           overkill for what you describe.  I suggest finding a good supplier
           of prebuilt *nix boxes, preferably something running a BSD tcp stack
           for the sake of NFS.  I found a fibre channel array from http://corpsys.com
           that runs $1700 per .5TB.  Had no trouble with it yet under windows
           2k, mandrake, and freebsd.  Alternatively, you may want to look at
           the Sun A1000 line.  --scotsman
        \_ I would not consider the XServe as a general-purpose server at
           this point.  Apple just doesn't have a server pedigree (except
           a pedigree of abandoning their server products).  -tom
           \_ apple's xserve is an incredible piece of hardware, but overkill
              for what you need.  build a box from http://pixelusa.com.  also,
              dell has $1k 1U servers with one year of on site support and
              two more years of by-mail support.
        \_ Solaris has a great NFS support and the most featureful NFS
           implementation. Why would you want to serve Solaris client with
           anything other than a Solaris server?
           \_ because Sun's low-end server hardware sucks.
              \_ In what respect? Do you really need 3GHz Athlon CPU on an
                 NFS server? Take a look at Sun Fire V120, a very decent low-end
                 server.
              \_ their hardware also is unreasonably expensive, as is support
                 as well as people who know solaris.
                 \_ A configuration with 1 GB RAM, 72 GB of disk, and a
                    650-mhz processor is $6000.  You can get 3 much faster
                    Intel boxes for that much.
                    \_ What they gain in speed, they loose in software
                       robustness and support. Specially, if you need an
                       NFSserver, the question should be a no brainer. Also,
                       who pays the list price for Sun hardware? Talk to a
                       salesman. They'll slash the price by up to 50%
                       depending on how deep your pockets are.
                        \_ Mylex DAC960 controller.  You can put together a
                           real good x86 server for <<< $5k.  Equivalent
                           performance (and yes reliability) from Sun is gonna
                           cost you three times as much, at least.  And don't
                           tell me Sun equipment is more reliable;  some of
                           my clients run thousands of high-load servers, and
                           the Compaqs and Dells and other PC boxes of their
                           world don't suffer any more outages.  -John
                           \_ I don't want to 'put together' 20+ new boxes.
                        \_ ah.  nweaver.
                       \_ what software robustness and support do they lose?
                          only if you screw together some parts from Fry's.
                          \_ You get incomplete and unstable NFS support
                             and funky RAID software. See the original poster's
                             requirements.
           In addition to the IDE
           flakiness that someone mentioned, AFAIK, you can't mirror the boot
           disk on the xserve since it does not have an internal RAID
           controller and OS X probably does not support putting / on a
           software RAID device. Would you really like to take your server down
           for hours when the boot disk fails? If you're looking for a cost
           effective SCSI array consider the new Sun D2 (JBOD) or the 3310
           series (hardware RAID).
           \_ Read the link above:  OS X supports RAID devices.
             \_ But it doesn't support putting your root file system on software
                RAID.
                \- does apples weird file system with its weird case issues
                   manifest themselves over nfs? this is a real annoyance for
                   me when Makefile = makefile, configure = Configure etc.
                   ok tnx. --psb
           \_ Forget software RAID anyway. Performance *is* an issue, although
              it may not be the determining issue. Buy yourself a hardware
              RAID card and stick it on a cheap PC with a gigabit NIC. --dim
2002/11/20 [Science/Space, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26584 Activity:nil
11/18   Where is the best place to find quiet/silent power supplies,
        CPU cooling fans, and HD enclosures?
        \_ http://www.pcpowercooling.com
        \_ Papst makes good fans, but they're a pain to get online.
           http://www.papst.de  -John
        \_ http://csua.org/u/5af
           [originally posted by ax - shorturld]
        \_ Ya know I was starting to get into all this over clocking, super
           cooling, quiet this and special case material that stuff when it
           struck me that this whole concept is just 'wrong'.  These are
           consumer level devices.  They shouldn't require special cooling
           units, water pumps, super quiet extra expensive fans, etc.  I've
           decided the whole thing is a big scam and I'm not going to toss
           away good money on the computer version of Rice Boy Rocketry. --!RBR
           \_ the quiet fans from pcpowercooling are about the same price
              as you'd pay for a loud, generic fan you'd find at compusa
           \_ A while back our work had a power outage.  It was amazing how
              much quieter the office was without all those computers on.
              Ever since I have been a believer in quiet computer case design.
           \_ Lots of people find that even non-overclocked are still very
              noisy, so this question is still relevant.
              \_ That's the point I was trying to make.  Why the hell are
                 computers so god damned loud and hot in the first place?
                 All the excess heat and noise implies a fundamental design
                 flaw.  --!RBR
                 \_ Apple Cube
                    \_ Yeah but I want something that runs software.
                       \_ I think this is why the market for PCs sucks.
                          After complaining and receiving a suggestion
                          for something better, the complainer says,
                          "Oh, that won't work for _me_." My iMac runs
                          all the software I want. It's also really
                          quiet -- no fan.
           \_ I was working on my laptop with its disk spun down and the fan
               off. It was nice to not hear the incessant racket.
           \_ I actually find our PVR/satellite receiver to be annoyingly loud.
              Fan, hard drive, odd high-frequency blips...the older I get the
              more sensitive I get to these things.
        \_ aaron!  where did you find your uber elite water cooled machine
           that thing is RAD, it makes absolutely no noise.
        \_ http://www.koolance.com maybe? -=Aubie
        \_ I just hooked up the fan in my power supply to a pot, and used
           that to control the speed of the fan.  Cranked the fan speed as
           high as I can and for it to stay inaudible.  Ref
           http://www.silentpcreview.com .
2002/11/7-8 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26459 Activity:high
11/7    What kind of computer do they use to store financial data in
        say Wall Street or in banks? Cray? SGI? Sun? INTEL???
        \_ IBM.
        \_ Store? Probably IBM. I think either the Nasdaq or NYSE runs trading
        through an HP farm though.
        \- does anyone know what kind of computer the FED MASTER COMPUTER is?
           The one at the bottom of a mine in colpepper, virginia? This is
           the computer that tracks the reserve requirements of all the
           usa banks. --psb
        \_ They don't use a 'computer' generally.  They use SANS and high end
           DAS and NAS devices from companies like EMC and Hitachi.  When you
           get into high end 100% uptime computing environments you stop seeing
           computers and start seeing discrete components: some sort of app
           server/farm connected via multiple high speed fiber links to SANs.
           \_ Sorry, what do SANS, DAS and NAS stand for?
              \_ http://www.google.com/search?q=nas+san+das
              \_ SANs -> Storage Area Networks
                 \_ say your FC mesh
                 NAS  -> Network Attached Storage (ie file servers)
                 \_ your storage appliance, like netapp.
                 Don't know what DAS stands for
                 \_ direct attached storage
                 \_ disk on your lameass POS linux box.
2002/11/7-8 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26452 Activity:high
11/6    Solaris 2.7, E6500 with lots of disks.  One disk up and died but
        I didn't get the serial number dumped in the log like usually happens.
        Is there some way to get the serial# for the dead disk?  I know the
        device path and it's entry in 'format' and a bunch of other stuff.
        I'm remote so making lights flash won't help.  All help appreciated!
        \_ This is why you keep logs of this kind of thing around...
        \_ luxadm ? why do you need the serial number? You mean WWN?
           or part number? how about 3rd party tool sysinfo?
           I dont understand. If you  know the disk, maybe start accessing it
           to make it generate another error in your "log"?
           You also can often look at the format output for disk type
           and match it in the FE handbook or sun system handbook
           or the web to get the part#.
        \_ OP: my fault, I wasn't clear.  I need the serial # because that's
           the only unique identifier on the outside of the disk.  I'll be
           sending someone else there to pull the drive out for replacement
           and need a very clear and easy way to ID the drive the barely
           technical person can deal with and not fuck up.
           \_ make it blink for him.  sure you're remote, but you could
              certainly make it blink until disk is found.
2002/11/5 [Computer, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26410 Activity:nil
11/4    Yet another reason to avoid helping your friends out with their home
        computers: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/27920.html
2002/10/23-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:26297 Activity:high
10/23   On modern disks, where should you place swap?  At the beginning?
        at the end (like on old ide disks)?  Can we be assured that mfr's
        think "end" is the edge of the platter?  I wanted to know in general
        and in the case of "20 Gig Maxtor drive".  Also, I do infact
        reliaze that it probably doesn't matter, but theoretically where
        should it go?  Thx.
        \_ experiment -don't know either.
                      \_ no, just sick of people asking questions that they're
                         simply too lazy to take care of themselves.  The
                         answer would be: "it depends, but probably doesn't
                         matter"
        \_ i tend to place it next to partitions used for filesystems that
           I might want to resize later on.  easier to resize swap than to
           resize another filesystem to rearrange space to make /var, for
           exmaple, bigger.  on some OS's you can even stop swapping on a
           particular partition without rebooting (as on Solaris). --Jon
        \_ I put it near the beginning, but these days when main memory
           is 1 gb or greater and much much faster than disk, it doesn't
           really matter that your placement will make vm a bit faster,
           since the overhead is just so damn high.
           \_ so it makes absolutly no performance boost to put swap at
                 "optimal" placement will be unnoticable.
              the edge of the platter?
                \_ if you're swapping, you've already lost.  -tom
              \_ Even on a budget system the disk runs at 7200 rpm and
                 has a 2 or 4 mb buffer. Whatever speedup you get by
                 "optimal" placement will be unnoticable with such a
                 disk. The thing to worry about these days is getting
                 the fastest ddr ram you can find and making sure that
                 it is interleaved properly.
              source of latency anyway).  Putting the swap near the center means
              that you're more likely on average to swing the head less.
                `\_ Even the slowest RAM is 8 orders of magnitude faster
                    than the fastest disk.
                     \_ Try 5 orders of magnitude.  Your point is still
                        valid, however.
        \_ huh, isn't the disk access going to be faster at the outer
           parts of the platter? look at the math, i degree of turn on
           the inner goes thru less distance than on the outer edge.
           \_ Aren't hard disk tracks concentric and non-uniform density
              (the inner tracks have the same storage capacity as the
              outer ones)?  If that's the case, it shouldn't impact
              performance either way.
           \_ once again tho, how can you make sure that what cfdisk thinks
              is "end" is  what the mfr thinks is "outer edge of platter"
              is there a standard to these things?
           \_ That doesn't account for moving the head (which is the larger
              source of latency anyway).  Putting the swap near the center
              means that you're more likely on average to swing the head less.
              \_ this is pointless ... use the time and energy to buy more
                 memory or kill a unneeded application. if you are interested
                 in doing this to see if the difference is measureable well
                 then obviously you will have to measure for your hardware.
                 this might be an interesting way to see how good a
                 disk simulator is.              --psb
                 \_ Actually, that was kind of my point.  Making guesses this
                    deep without actually measuring the performance isn't
                    productive.
        \_ WinXP automatically place it in the beginning 1/4-1/5 of your
           partition. Not sure if that means anything.
2002/9/8 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Display, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25807 Activity:very high
9/7     I'm building my own system. I've decided to get my CPU+MB from NewEgg.
        What is a good place to get mem, HD, and my Geforce? As for the case,
        I gotta go to Frys cuz I gotta see what the case looks like in person.
        Thanks.
        \_ Before ordering anything from anyone, go look at http://micropro.com.
           Great prices and out of state so no taxes.  I had them build 2
           custom boxes which showed on time and to spec with decent parts
           on the unspecified stuff.
                \_ http://newegg.com seems cheaper, maybe YOU should check it out
                   \_ Taxes, son, taxes.  I know newegg and others.  Also,
                      newegg isn't building custom systems which micropro will
                      do for you.  I've done the math.  On some systems you
                      can save as much as 10 bucks if you carefully order parts
                      from all over the net and then you still have to build
                      the damned thing.  "seems cheaper" is not cheaper.  Just
                      trying to give someone some help which you're not.
        \_ say I'm getting a MB with KT333 chipset. The FSB is rated 100/133,
           so how much more will I gain from using DDR2700 over DDR2100? Is
           DDR2700 good only when the FSB is 166? This info is not on
           tomshardware by the way.
           \_ 2700/CL2.0/333 >> 2100/CL2.0/266 by 0-25% depending on how
              memory intensive your application (game) is.  If you're building
              a top end system then get the 2700/CL2.0.  If you're going to go
              light on the cpu, video, or some other speed related part, then
              save your money across the whole system and get 2100/CL2.5.
2002/9/4-5 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25770 Activity:very high
9/4     I've got an E450, Solaris 2.7, and a D1000.  I've cabled up the scsi
        the way the manual says.  Shouldn't the disks show up with the format
        command?  Any idea what I'm missing?  Thanks!
        \_ boot -r  # gots to look for the disks first...
           \_ did 'reboot -- -r'.  I don't have easy console access. I also
              did 'drvconfig' followed by 'disks' which is supposed to do the
              same thing they say.
              \_ Sorry to hear about the console access, but my next move
                 would be probe-scsi and probe-scsi-all from the ok prompt.
                 \_ I'm trying to avoid that if possible since it requires
                    some travel....
                    \_ Won't help you much now, but you should really have
                        some sort of remote console access (terminal server
                        or serial cable) to non-local unix boxes.  It's a
                        great help in situations like this.  As it is,
                        unless I'm missing something, I think you're SOL,
                        unless there's a way to get the eeprom to recognize
                        new hardware on the fly.  -John
                        \_ Not my box.  Sometimes you gotta take what life
                           gives you and hope for the best.
        \_ Make sure you're using an HVD SCSI card since D1000 is HVD SCSI
           box.
           \_ Hooked up to a single edged controller.  The cabling exactly
              matched another e450/d1000 pair I have that's working.  I'm
              thinking maybe the d1000 is just fucked.  Running out of reasons
              for this.
              \_ HVD SCSI uses the same connectors as other SCSI
                 implementations. You could have plugged the D1000 into a
                 single-ended card. I'd double check the SCSI card chipset
                 and part number.
                 \_ I've got single edged scsi on addon cards which don't work
                    and tried the built in regular scsi.  Nothing going on.
                    \_ The question is: Do you have a HVD SCSI card in
                       the system? Do you? --dim
                       \_ Yes.  I'm desperate and trying things I'm sure won't
                          work bc I already tried everything I think should.
        \_ HVD = High Voltage Differential as in NOT a normal Sun onboard SCSI
           port.  -ax
        \_ Bent pin on the SCSI cable?  SCSI Host ID's set to 0 or 7 on D1000?
           Also, one bad disk can hang the whole SCSI bus and you will see
           nothing. Finally, split the D1000 into 2 separate 6 disks pieces
           using a terminator and no loop cable between the busses and see if
           you can see either bus.  -ax
2002/8/26 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:25691 Activity:high
8/26    How do I prevent a particular host or user from having write acess
        to an NFS mounted disk?  There is some rogue process tring to fill
        up my disk, and I haven't been able to block it.  I've tried
        variations on
        \_ what server os?
        \_ you can prevent a certain host from writing to a volume but you
           can't prevent a user from writing if the file system has been
           exported in read-write mode to that host.
           \- actually there is kind of a hairy way to do this with
              some experimental work on nfs filter layers. the work
              involves some extensions to the *_quash routines.
              while it is experimental, the people doing it really know
              what they are doing ... however this is probably one of
              those cases where "if you have to ask, this 'solution' isnt
              for you". if this is you really important you can talk to me.
              ok tnx.
2002/8/19 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25604 Activity:moderate
8/18    anyone have a copy of the pc software "audiojacker" ?
        it seems to have disappeared from the search engines
        \_ what does it do? try <DEAD>highcriterion.com<DEAD> for TotalRecorder.
           It might be do what you want...
                \_ i get domain not found for <DEAD>highercriterion.com<DEAD>
                   \_ read more carefully.  or just search google.
                   \_ it's http://highcriteria.com ... or just search google for
                      TotalRecorder.
2002/8/5-6 [Computer/HW/Drives, Consumer/TV] UID:25494 Activity:kinda low
8/4     Anyone used the computer projector as a movie projector (add a TV
        tuner card, play DVD, etc)? How's the quality? Any recommendations?
        \_ Check http://www.avsforum.com
                \_ The above site is excellent.  I have a Sony 1270
                hooked up to a P3/800.  It rocks for watching DVD's,
                HDTV, playing games, etc.  120" diagonal screen. -ax
                        \_ i kick yerass anytime  -workout phreak
2002/8/4-6 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25489 Activity:kinda low
8/3     Are CD-RW as reliable as CD-R?
        \_ In what sense?  They can both get scratched, etc.
           \_ in respect to tolerance to heat, humidity, etc
              \_ It varies by manufacturer.  You'd have to check the specs
                 online by maker for each product line.  In general though I
                 suspect that under normal conditions they behave the same.
2002/6/23-24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25175 Activity:high
6/23    Why are the FreeBSD 4.6 .iso images less than 200 MB each?
        Couldn't both of those fit on one disk?
        \_ bad images?
        \_ the mini iso is ~200 megs.  The others are 600+ full cds.
           \_ can I do a base install w/ the mini isos?
              \_ no idea.  I use the boot floppy method.
2002/6/18 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25135 Activity:high
6/17    I heard that DVDs are 17Gig, but why are DVD-RW only 4 Gig?
        \_ DVDs are only 6 Gigs.  stfw.
           \_ YOU search the fucking web. Double-sided, double-layer DVDs
              can store up to 17GB.
              http://www.dvdforum.org/tech-dvdprimer.htm
              \_ Fuck off.  I'm not the one asking the question that is asking
                 questions that are trivially answered by google.
                 \_ Well, maybe you should've just answered with "stfw"
                    instead of responding with a bogus answer.
                    \_ Well Mr. Smarty Pants, you sure showed me.  This is a
                       lesson I won't soon forget.
1) DVD-5 - 1 Layer single side 4.7GB
2) DVD-9 - 2 Layer single side 8.5GB
3) DVD-10 - 1 Layer double side 9.4GB
4) DVD-17 - 2 Layer double side 17GB
        Writers today are DVD-5 only. I'd wait till DVD-17 comes out
2002/6/15 [Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25104 Activity:nil
6/14  Anyone know of any free/publicly available shoutcast/icecast servers.
      (I'd run one myself but i don't have the bandwidth).
        \_ yes. http://www.shoutcast.com has a list of servers
          \_ I believe you are incorrect.  (though i'd love for you to
             prove me wrong...)
2002/6/11 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:25061 Activity:kinda low
6/10    What is "progressive scan" wrt DVD players?
        \_ STFW. google "dvd faq progressive scan" +"I'm Feeling Lucky".
        \_ Progressive scan de-interlaces the signal sent out of the
        DVD player.  However, most TVs cannot handle a progressive signal
        anyway, and displays that can are often of high quality so they will
        have their own de-interlacer and scaler.  Progressive just means
        displaying the lines of the picture on the screen one after the other
        going down, instead of first displaying all the odd lines in the
        picture, and then the even for every displayed frame.  Try setting
        your computer monitor to interlaced display (if possible) and you'll
        see how crappy it looks.
        http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-10-2000.html
        \_ Using the digital TV's doubler entails an extra couple digital
        2 analog conversions, and mitsu's doubler is not great anyhow.
        And computer in interlaced is much worse than tv which uses source
        material of 24 or 30 fps.
2002/6/5 [Finance/Banking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24985 Activity:kinda low
6/3     anyone know where to get a CD of old radio shows - like The Saint
        Sgt. Preston, Dragnet, George && Gracie, that show where you hear a
        gunshot and the narrator says, "That was the shot that killed <forgor
        name>'s life, How do i know? because I'm ... <forgot name>"
        \_ The last show you mentioned is "The Lives of Harry Lime,"
           a radio follow-up to the movie "The Third Man" --- do a
           Google search for CDs or MP3s.
2002/5/22-23 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24915 Activity:very high
05/22   Any recommendations for a utility to totally erase a PC laptop
        disk's contents. I'm selling my laptop and want my files etc.
        totally wiped.
        \_ Destroy the disk and grind it up.  Only way.  For those who
           don't have top secret stuff, merely reformatting and filling
           with emac dists will do just fine.
        \_ There may be something better but one of the tools included with
           PGP for windows is a wiper. It writes seven layers of random
           bits over every selected file, as I recall. -- ulysses
        \_ Would this naive approach be secure enough: re-partition the whole
           disk to several FAT partitions then fill up each partition with a
           single file containing 0xFF until the partition is full?
           \_ if you're really worried, supposedly you can scan for variations
              in gauss levels of each bit and tell if it was recently changed.
              There are some government protocols for disposing of harddrives.
              If you're this worried, though, i've got a bomb shelter i'd like
              to sell you.
              \_ I remember reading somewhere that data can be read off hard
                 drive that's been wiped(written random bits on) up to six
                 times, which is probably why the "wiper" program mentioned
                 above wipes it seven times.
           \_ a layer of 0xff, a layer of 0x00, a layer of 0xff, ...
              until you feel comfortable about the gauss levels mentioned
              above.
        \_ The above 'naive' approach is more than enough for a simple sale to
           a private individual.  In theory the data can still be recovered by
           a professional data recovery firm that will charm thousands of
           dollars with no promises of recovery.  I'm sure the FBI,etc can
           recover it though as they have essentially infinite resources but
           I don't think this is a serious concern.
        \_ what's wrong with just repartitioning the drive?
           \_ Data is still there. Only partition and file tables are wiped.
        \_ If you're so worried, why don't just keep your existing disk
           and replace it with a cheap ass disk you can get at Fry's.
           \_ for starters the 2" disk in a laptop is very expensive. !op
              \_ and the time wasted in discussing all this is probably even
                 more than that.
                 \_ A 2" disk could run $150+ for even a smaller drive.  I
                    think the motd time spent on this is about zero.  Actually
                    I was at work for most of this thread so I got paid for it.
2002/5/21-22 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW] UID:24902 Activity:high
5/21    ant question:  I have a big heirarchy of ant files
        I want to define something at the base (the grandparent) ant file
        but I want to be able to run from a child ant file.
                How do I do this?  (in Make it was "include")  -brain
        \_ If you have too many ants I suggest RAID.
        \_ okay losers- it's the "property" tag with the "file"
           attribute set.  This reads in the file.  -brain  [formatd]
           \_ property is evil.  open source forever!
2002/4/26 [Computer/HW/Drives, Reference/Tax] UID:24595 Activity:high
4/26    RIAA wants to use our tax $s against us:
        http://news.com.com/2100-1023-891521.html?tag=fd_top
        \_ reposting slashdot topics is lame.
        \_ No, only against thieves.  Stop stealing music.
           \_ You can rest assured that it will NOT only be used
              against thieves.
                \_ Ok ConspiracyGuy, who will it be used against?
           \_ Stopping theivery is one thing, but the RIAA's
              primary concern isn't theivery, it is fair use.
              They are unhappy that current law allows you to
              make a copy of a cd so that you can listen to it
              in your car or on your computer. They are even
              unhappier that once you buy the cd you can listen
              to it as many times as you want and you can even
              sell it or give it to a friend without compensating
              the RIAA. Same goes for movies.
              The actions and measurse they are proposing
              (ex. cdr tax, new justice dept. branches) are
              far to extereme if the goal is just to stop
              theivery. These measures are a modern sugar and
              stamp act designed to provide the RIAA/MPAA with
              a continuous revenue stream at the expense of
              the consumer and fair use. They want the gov.
              to enforce this act so that non-compliance will
              be exteremely costly.
              \_ Most of this stuff is already going on in
                 Canada and we all admire everything Canadian,
                 especially their medical system, so what's
                 the problem?
                 \_ You are being sarcastic right?
                    \_ Well yeah but it felt good.
        \_ Who's money did you expect them to use?
2002/4/24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24563 Activity:nil
4/23    have a scsi plextor burner (4/2/20), looking to swap for a decent
        ide model, or crappy model and old 10-20g hard drive.  Also have
        3dfx, 3dfx2 cards free to good homes.   -jor
        \_ Do you know if FreeBSD has hardware acceleration for the cards?
2002/4/24 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24559 Activity:very high
4/23    Are there any decently priced backed up storage services out there?
        Talking about 5 GB.
        (sorry, I didn't mean to spark off a debate on IDSG earlier)
        \_ buy a 80GB drive.  copy/rsync/dump/etc
                \_ No. Last time there was a power outage at school, I lost
                   my harddrive. I'm not stupid. When I say "backed up storage"
                   I mean...wait for it..... "backed up storage".
                   \_ dumbass, where was your UPS? --Jon
                   \_ Buy two drives, and don't connect them to the machine
                      during normal usage.  When you want to perform back up,
                      connect one and copy the files, disconnect it, then
                      connect the other one and copy the files, and disconnect.
                      Then when there's a power outage, you toast one drive as
                      most.  It's a bit of trouble, but it works.
                      \_ If you really care about your data, you cannot
                         store you backups on magnetic media, esp. hard
                         drives. CD, DVD or MO is the way to go.
                         \_ Well, that's true.  What's MO?  What did people do
                            before there were CDRW drives?
                            \_ MO is Magno-Optical. MO has been around
                               for years, so have CDs.
        \_ 5GB is a pretty trivial amount these days.  Is this 5GB of
           data per day or a 5GB filesystem?  5GB will fit on a DVD.
           incrementals from a 5GB filesystem will fit on cdroms, easily.
           You could even do snapshots to a large (cheap) disk as suggested
           above.  Why pay someone money to do something so trivial.  I
           could see it if you had 300GB of data for which you wanted
           regular backups, but 5GB? --Jon
        \_ 5gb?  tapes are cheap for this size job.  Then you'll have true
           'backed up storage' just like you mean.  I fail to see why this is
           all so difficult for you for such a miniscule data set.
           \_ Tape drives that wouldnt be total overkill for this (DLT or
              AIT2 or VXA are overkill) such as say dds2, are pretty lame.
        \_ Buy a DVD-R or DVD-RW drive. The A104 is ~ $400 , blanks DVDs
           are ~ $3. For an outlay of $500 you will have reliable backups
           that will last you years if not decades.
        \_ Copy it onto soda, hahaha
2002/4/24-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24556 Activity:high
4/24    Recommendations on a multi-region DVD player?  I prefer to not mod
        it.
        \_ I prefer not to split infinitives
           \_ i am going to annoeyingly post and to boldly go
              whatever and werever i please(spelling errors added
              for annoyance value.)
              whatch now; as i misuse the semicolon. and forget
              capitalization.  i only reach for my shift key so
              i can misuse punctuation.
           \_ I speak English, not Latin, so I don't worry about it.
        \_ My Aiwa is multiregion.  The real thing you want to look for is a
           player without Macrovision.  Search Google.
           \_ Most of what I found with respect to this are players modded
              by small third-party companies.  Are they reliable?  And
              what model is your Aiwa?
        \_ I have a Toshiba I bought in asia which is multiregion but somehow
           it still doesn't read all DVDs here. Any clue about this format
           issue?
           \_ REA. http://www.dvdcity.com/codefree/codefree-dvd-info.html
        \_ Apex
2002/4/18 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24479 Activity:nil
4/18    I want to burn a CD for someone that can be played as audio, but also
        has some data on it. IS this the same as an "enhanced cd"? Do I
        need a special burner to do this?
        \_ well, I guess this answers my question:
             http://www.cdpage.com/CD-ROM/enhancedcd.html
2002/3/23-24 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:24211 Activity:kinda low
3/32    Does anyone know who to have emacs diff a buffer I'm editing and the
        contents of the file as currently stored on disk?
        \_ M-x diff-backup
2002/3/20 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24165 Activity:high
3/19    don't buy from newegg, they sell dvd drives where there are no drivers
        available for (from creative labs)
        \_ wow, you people really need to learn English.  Someone wanna make
           an E190 crack for me?
        \_ Uh, this seems like a Creative Labs problem.  It's you're own
        \_ Uh, this seems like a Creative Labs problem.  It's your own
           own fucking fault for not doing your homework.
           \_ not really since newegg is knowingly pushing off stuff they know
            doesn't work in the first place
            \_ hm, maybe you should do your homework before purchasing a
               product?  tip: don't buy unsupported or discontinued products.
               you might also want to avoid buying OEM/brown-box hardware.
               doesn't newegg have a return policy anyway?
2002/3/16-18 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24129 Activity:moderate
3/15  Why doesn't soda use a raid for its disks?  It seems kind of
      wasteful to mirror each drive (and only on a nightly basis).
      \_ want to buy CSUA a reasonable raid card?  --jon
         \_ what about software RAID, are there reasons for not doing it?
            \_ yes, they all suck for anything but striping/mirroring
                 well unless you pay for something real, like VERITAS
               \_ striping and mirroring. Isn't this what soda needs to do
                  with the disks?
                  \_ the argument above was that mirroring was wasteful.
                     the common alternative is raid-5.  but software
                     implementations of raid-5 in SW tend to suck --Jon
                     \_ right, but wouldn't it be better to use software
                        raid for mirroring the disks instead of nightly
                        rsync?
                        \_ Yes but this isn't a professionally administered
                           system.  -disk management guy in real world
         \_ what is a "reasonable" raid card? If its in the $200
            price range I'd be willing to buy the card and donate
            it to the csua. - alum
            \_ megaraid,mylex,adaptec
2002/3/7 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24048 Activity:nil
3/6     I have one sunblade that has a CD-ROM drive and one that doesn't.  I
        need to install SW on the one that doesn't have the CD drive.  Both
        machines share the same network.  Is it possible to somehow read the
        CD on one machine across the network and install the software?  What's
        the easiest way to solve this without removing CD drives or hard drives
        and such?  Thanks.
        \_ NFS?
        \_ use NFS. Start nfsd and mountd if they're not running and export
           the file system on CDROM with "share" command. You can configure
           vold to do this automatically every time a CD is inserted.
2002/2/26 [Computer/HW/Languages, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23977 Activity:high
2/25    What happened to the "vis" program? The one that shows the output
        of a program repeatedly?
        \_ http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~vis/whatis.html
             \_That's not the program I am talking about.
             \_ That's not the program I am talking about. I want vis:
                "a program that repeatedly executes a specified command
                and refreshes the display of its output screen" from O'Reilly
                \_ From what O'Reilley?  They publish hundreds of titles.
                          \_ O'Reilly Unix Power Tools. 1st ed. This Program:
                           http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/cgi-bin/man?Vis
                             \_ Most of the power tools were on the included
                                CD, not necessarily part of any OS
        \_ There's a similar program called "display"
           http://www.ipsmart.com/src or misc/display in FreeBSD ports.
           Be careful if you have ImageMagick installed; it also has a binary
           in /usr/local/bin named "display" (which no one ever really uses,
           so, well, don't worry about it)
           --dbushong
2002/2/6-7 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23795 Activity:high
2/6     Where can one buy a region/code-free DVD player in the Bay Area?
        Thanks.  I do not want to order online.
        \_ japan town in SF has some
2002/1/20 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23610 Activity:nil
1/19    Let's say I'd like to run a Linux router using a 100Mhz Pentium 32Mg,
        no HD, 1 3.5" floppy, 2 NIC cards. Can I fit the entire kernel and
        other routing shit on puny 1.4meg drive?
        \_ here's my linux 2.2.19 router:
        /> foreach i (bin etc lib mnt var boot dev initrd sbin usr)
        foreach? du -sh $i
        foreach? end
        2.0M    bin
        1.5M    etc
        13M     lib
        4.0k    mnt
        45M     var
        1.3M    boot
        64k     dev
        4.0k    initrd
        1.8M    sbin
        631M    usr
        (/usr has a bunch of stuff in /usr/src)

        \_ I think NetBSD might do this fairly well; another option is picoBSD.
        \_ http://www.linuxrouter.org  is one attempt.  (I haven't used it in
           a while.)
        \_ Hey, wasn't someone asking yesterday what to do with a spare 4G
           hard drive?...
           \_ a humming router? No thanks! (floppy is quieter)
           \_ If you're going to stick a HD in it then you might as well make
              it do something like dns, mail server, etc.  If you don't need a
              low end server then you should do the floppy-only thing.  Why
              make extra noise and heat and burn more power for nothing?
           \_ how about getting a CompactFlash->IDE adapter?
        \_ try PicoBSD
        \_ http://leaf.sourceforge.net I've been using this for six+ months.
           I have three NICs (outside, inside, DMZ). Of the distros included
           in LEAF, I use Oxygen. P133, 16 MB, 1.68MB floppy. --jsjacob
2002/1/18-19 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23598 Activity:low
1/18    I just bought 2 120GB HD for less than $200 each (they're so cheap!).
        What's a good use for my old 2 4G HD (which I bought at $400 each
        back in 1996).
        \_ Some schools accept donations for computer equipment, but I don't
           have any contact info now.  -- yuen
        \_ Where'd you buy your 120GB HD?  What brand/model?
        \_ Give them to me.  My 1GB hard drive is running out of space.
        \_ ooh, sorry... I got 80GB for $125... barely beating your GB/$
           ratio... Mine is 7200 rpm from Western Digital.
2002/1/16 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Consumer/Audio, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23573 Activity:high
1/15    As hard as it may be to believe,  I liked "real jukebox."  It was a good
        interface, organized my music for me and generally did everything i
        wanted it to do easily.  Now I have a new computer and i see that real
        (unsatisfied, i guess, without my COMPLETE loathing (their player has
        always sucked)) has gone to some damn subscription product.  Anyone know
        of a similarly good mp3 player?
        \_ you CAN get a free version, except, you'll get a prompt to buy
           their product every once in a while. The new version is smaller
           (binary size) and much faster than before.
2002/1/12 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23545 Activity:high
1/11    Veritas Gurus: How do I free the last disk from a disk group?  I have
        disk group FOO and it won't let me pull the last disk from it.  I want
        the entire existence of FOO to cease and use all the disks in another
        diskgroup on the same machine.  This is v 3.x on Solaris 2.7. Thanks!
        [Note, I don't have TFM].
        \_ vxassist remove mirror for all but the last,
           vxassist remove volume for the last.
           \_ "vxdg destroy foo" did the trick.  Thanks for pointing me in
              the right dirction.
              \_ useless trivia: "vxdg destroy" was implemented by someone
                 with a soda account.
2002/1/2-3 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23432 Activity:high
1/2     Anyone have any experience with USB 2.0 on Windows 2000? I'm
        thinking of getting an external HD for my laptop and trying to
        decide between USB 2.0 and Firewire. Thanks.            - rory
        \_ USB 2.0 comes included on some newer motherboards.  Firewire does
           not.  Does your laptop already have FW support?  USB2.0 support?
           Do you plan to use this harddrive on any other machine?
           \_ I have a Sony VAIO with one FW port and 2 USB ports. I
              was under the understanding that USB 2.0 would use the same
              plug. I thought the only hang-up might be software (driver)
              support. I was hoping to use the HD on other machines, but this
              isn't super important because I'm looking to buy a USB/FW case,
              so will be using a standard IDE drive that I can always use
              somewhere else.           - rory
                \_ It sounds like it doesn't matter.  It was my understanding
                   that usb2.0 was hardware change but maybe a new bios flash
                   is good enough?  I haven't researched it.  It sounds like
                   you don't have a special need for either and should just
                   get the cheaper one.  You should double check the usb2.0
                   thing.
              \_ USB 2.0 requires a different chipset.  I doubt you will be
                 able to upgrade your existing ports.  I'd recommend you go the
                 firewire route, although I personally think firewire is the
                 better technology and that USB 2.0 is just a hack.  You also
                 can look for enclosures that support both firewire and USB 2.0,
                 although that obviously will cost more.
2001/12/31 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23419 Activity:high
12/30   I bought a few DVDs from HK and a few of them don't play on my
        machine. WTF? How do I make them play on my machine?
        \_ Ever heard of region encoding? Basically, it prevents what you're
           trying to do.
        \_ buy a region-free player, hack your player to be region-free, or buy
           a region 3 DVD player.  if you have a DVD-ROM drive, you may have
           better luck playing it on your PC.  You can also try ripping it to
           disk and decrypting it...
           \_ Some PC DVD players let you choose the region. One I used
              before (forgot which) let you switch regions up to three times.
              Then you had to reinstall to change it again.
2001/12/29-31 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23400 Activity:high
12/29   I'd like to dip into the pool of motd wisdom.  I'm going to buy a new
        cd-rw.  I don't have scsi so it should be ide.  I want quality, speed
        and the drive should be able to deal with any of the zillions of
        standards.  Price isn't too important but I don't want to take out
        a second mortgage for it. What's the best ide cd-rw out there? Thanks!
        (Please specify a model if you have one in mind or a product line)
        \_ ? the most expensive CD-RW is about $200 these days.  It's
           a lot cheaper than you think.  Any name brand drive will serve
           you fine (and a lot of them are under $100)
        \_ I think these suckers are almost a commodity now.   HP is well
           spoken of, but I've been satisfied with my Sony CDRW.  It cost
           about $100 when I got it.  It does 8x CDR, I forget its other
           speeds.  I've gotten it to work under Linux with minimal trouble.
        \_ LiteOn 24x10x40 has worked well for me and my friend.  Paid $81 for
           it.  http://tomshardware.com has a recent review of IDE drives.  In brief,
           every drive is full featured except some Sonys.
        \_ Apparently it's been a while since you purchased a CD-RW drive.
           They're universally cheap.  They're universally compatible.  IDE
           sucks much less than it used to.  Probably the best drive
           available on the market today is TDK's 24x velocd:
           http://www.tdk.com/velocd-new/24index.html
           Should cost between $150-$160 after tax/shipping if you shop
           around.  Comes with a solid software bundle (but you don't care
           about that if it's going into a non-windows machine).  They've got
           a 32x burn model coming out if you're willing to wait, but it will
           probably go for a premium for a few months after release.  If you
           are cheap, get the LiteOn, it's a damn good drive for the money.
           If you want the fastest thing under the sun, get the TDK.  It's
           excellent, and still pretty cheap. -dans
           \_ "...it's been a while since..."  Actually I've never bought one.
              I bought a retail 24/10/40 plextor for $148 - $30 rebate.  It
              looks pretty much the same as the TDK except has a 4mb buffer.
              I don't know if that makes a difference but it's cheaper and
              specs out the same otherwise.  I can't wait for a 32x to come
              out.  I need it in the next week or so.  Thanks to both of the
              above for URLs and your helpful comments.  Sometimes the motd
              works.
              \_ Plextor good.  Plextors have been and continue to be the
                 Cadillac of CD-Rs... except in a good way.
2001/12/18-19 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23292 Activity:moderate
12/17   What happened to http://www.japanvcd.com  Thx.  (Just when I wanted to
        buy my first VCD it went down.)
        \_ it's all about http://www.asianvids.com
        \_ http://www.vcd1.com
           \_ Is this and http://www.asianvids.com trustworthy?
              \_ Yes, but be forewarned: http://asianvids.com gives you CD-Rs, not
                 the originals, hence why their prices are so low.
2001/12/14-15 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:23240 Activity:high
12/13   What do you use to backup your 80 gig HD?
        \_ i took parts of the TDA home and am using that.  Boy
           given it's been so cold lately, I'm glad these drives run hot!
           \_ TDA disks are less than 9GB each, so you need a disk array
              with about 10 disks in it to backup your 80GB HD? How's your
              PG&E bill?
                \_ Wonderful.  It's no surprise PG&E is bankrupt - they've
                   determined they owe me $150 for the power I've used for
                   the last six months that I paid nothing for.  Must be
                   ultra-new math.
                        \_ After they figure it out you'll get billed plus
                           interest and penalties just like the IRS.
        \_ AIT. Or another 80 GB hard disk. --dim
        \_ This was on /. a few days ago. Look there for several answers.
        \_ Backup?
        \_ single sided single density 8 sector/track 5.25" floppy disks.
           by the time I finish a complete backup I'm so exhausted I don't
           have the energy to create new data so I know my data is safe until
           I get out of the hospital.
           \_ C'mon.  5.25" floppy disks are too small for the job.  I use the
              bigger 8" floppy disks.
                \_ My cp/m machine doesn't boot anymore and the disk drives
                   aren't compatible with my current OS.  I guess I could
                   write drivers for them when I get out of the hospital.
        \_ I used to backup my porn on 3.5" floppies. That is, until I
           discovered there was a lot of porn out there.
                \_ tawei is that you?
2001/11/5-6 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22937 Activity:high
11/5    In terms of quality/price/etc, which is better, Digit8 or MiniDV?
        Also is DV pure MPEG3 (e.g. you can load directly to the computer
        without a converter) or some other weird format?
        \_ http://www.adamwilt.com/DV.html
           (DV != MPEG2 ... Is there such a thing as MPEG3?)
           \_ As far as I know there's only MPEG2 Layer 3 (which of course
              is MP3) and MPEG4
              \_ mp3 is mpeg1-layer3
              \_ There's also MPEG-7 and MPEG-21
2001/10/31-11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Functional, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22885 Activity:high
10/31   What's the best way to erase your CDR? I'm not talking about CDRW.
        \_ Get a hammer or yermom.
        \_ microwave oven.
        \_ Put it in a parked car under the sun in a hot sunny day.
        \_ You understand a CDR can't be erased?  It's a write-once deal.
           That's why the above people are giving that sort of advice.
        \_ Circular sander.
2001/10/28-29 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22851 Activity:high
10/27   Does Linux or BSD support CD to CD (I have a SCSI Plextor) burning?
        \_ Not that I know of.  I think you're best off reading the CD
           and then burning it.
        \_ Nothing prevents you from doing dd if=/dev/cdrom | cdrecord ....
           or cat /dev/cdrom | cdrecord ....
          \_ Have you actually tried this or are you just assuming this
             should work?
        \_ Dunno about BSD, but the Linux CD writing Howto claims that
           this is not possible for audio CDs:
           http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.7
        \_ The author of cdrecord suggests using readcd instead of dd .readcd is
           part of the cdrecord distribution. dd can't handle some special
           cases. It should be as simple is
           readcd dev=0,5,0 f=- | cdrecord ..
           which a correct dev option, though, I am not sure how reliable that
           is ..
           \_ readcd will fail if the CD is an audio disc.
2001/10/22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22795 Activity:very high
10/22   Any recommendations for a super quiet powersupply/case combo? I
        just can't get to sleep at night with my current setup.
        \_ Cases don't make noise. PS do.
           \_ PSs don't make noise; the fans do.  and HDDs.  and CD/DVD drives.
              and anything else mechanical.  and then if the case is poorly
              constructed, it can rattle ...
              \_ [again] Your fan is integrated into your PS.  Your CD/DVD,
                 HD and other mechanical things should be idle and thus not
                 making significant noise at night.  Cases don't rattle if
                 there's no mechanical action to make them rattle and just
                 how the hell cheap is your case anyway?  Read the original
                 question: this is for night time (idle time) noise reduction.
                 Thank you.  --management
        \_ http://www.koolance.com
           http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com
           \_ Thank you.
2001/10/2 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22624 Activity:nil
10/1    (Can someone please re-post any response?  I think I'll start running
        my own motd auto-archive from now on.)
        What's the minimum CPU requirement for Win98 (ignoring speed)?  I have
        a Pentium-something 133MHz machine that has been running Win95 fine.
        But when I re-formatted the disk and tried to install Win98, it always
        hangs at about the same point during the installation process when it's
        copying lots of files from the CD.  I'm guessing it's trying to execute
        some instruction that's not supported by the processor.
        \_ have you tried running the install files directly from the HD?  I've
           installed Win98 on Pentiums before with no problems.
           \_ You mean copying the whole CD to the HD, then running
              installation without the CD?  No I haven't tried that.  I don't
              know if the HD has enough space to do this.  But I can try.  But
              how do I copy all the files from the CD when I don't have
              anything to boot from?  And why does installing from the HD make
              a difference anyway?
2001/9/22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22591 Activity:high
9/22    Please list your experiences with 60G hard disks:
        How many, how long, does it work well? IDE
        60G IBM:
        60G Samsung:
        60G Western Digital:
        60G Seagate:
        60G Maxtor:
2001/9/15 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22458 Activity:very high
9/14    I added a second IDE drive (slave) to the primary chain in my system
        and the drive is only detected on cold start (ie power up) and its
        never detected on warm start (ie reboot)?  I've tried jumpering the
        drive for cable select but that didn't work. Any ideas?
        \_ get a new hard drive
           \_ So this is a drive problem and not a controller/config
              problem? Sigh. I really didn't want to wait in the return
              line at fry's.
              \_ what OS?
        \_ Check the settings on your first drive.  Some older drives have
           different settings for Solo vs. Master.
2001/8/14-15 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:22110 Activity:high
8/14    I want to take down (legally?) http://imatcher.org, a spamming site.
        What can be done?
        \_ DDoS it
        \_ Complain to their upstream provider.
           \_ not sure whether upstream provider == ISP, but they say
              they are an ISP so they can't be taken down.
              \_ Someone sold them bandwidth, unless they laid their
                 own cable (highly unlikely). In this case it is AlterNet.
                 \_ How did you find that out?
        \_ % whois -h http://whois.arin.net 208.253.173.31
           UUNET Technologies, Inc. (NETBLK-UUNET1996B) UUNET1996B
                                                 208.192.0.0 - 208.255.255.255
           iServices Inc. (NETBLK-UU-208-253-172) UU-208-253-172
                                               208.253.172.0 - 208.253.175.255
           These fuckers are under UUNET. You might as well give up now;
           UUNet is known for being a haven for spammers.
2001/7/27-28 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21963 Activity:moderate
7/26    I want to buy an econo-DVD player that functions well.  Doesn't need
        to bypass region encoding.  Recommendations?  urlP.  Thanks.
        \_ I heard that cheap ones can't play CD's you burn yourself.  It's
           something about the format on those CDs being different from that
           on CDs you buy in record stores.  I don't know exactly.
           \_ Oh brother. It has nothing to do with cheap vs. expensive.
              Some DVD players have two lasers. The ones that don't usually
              can't play CD-R. Of course, that's what CD players are for.
              Most Sonys can't player CD-R. Pioneer can. YMMV.
              Most Sonys can't play CD-R. Pioneer can. YMMV.
              \_ Why does it need two lasters to play CD-R but only one to
                 play regular CD and DVD?
                 \_ Or one laser that can do dual wavelengths. Many players
                    use a laser that is a compromise between DVD and CD
                    wavelengths to read both. Factory pressed CDs are more
                    conducive to this laser (reflectivity), while CD-R is not.
                    \_ I see.  What about CD-RWs?  Do DVD players with only one
                       laser wavelength have the same problem with CD-RWs?
        \_ How cheap do you want? You can find good Toshiba DVD players
           all over for about $150. Why buy crap when you could have
           something decent for $50 more?
        \_ Or spring $300 and get a PS2
2001/7/24-25 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21938 Activity:insanely high
7/24    what's a good cd-rw drive for a laptop?
        \_ Internal or External?
           \_ external
              \_ SCSI, USB, FireWire or Parallel?
                \_ USB and Parallel CDRW are slow and often don't work reliably.
                   The SCSI drives are often pretty expensive, bulky but they
                   work very well.
                   \_ Make sure you get a SCSI PC Card supported by your OS.
                      Alternatively, if you have a swap-out CD-ROM drive,
                      your laptop manufacturer might have a CD-RW drive
                      module.
                      \_ Adaptec 1460 or 1480 are pretty much the only
                         reliable PCMCIA/Cardbus scsi cards currently
                         available. They are supported under every major
                         desktop os (win,lin,mac).
                   \_ get a PCMCIA firework card and firewire CD-RW drive (or
                   \_ get a PCMCIA firewire card and firewire CD-RW drive (or
                      in, though that can get a bulky)
                      get a firewire enclosure and put whatever drive you want
                      in, though that can get bulky)
                      \_ I would recommend just buying a QUE FW CDRW from
                         Fry's rather than building one yourself. A 8x8x32
                         external can be had for $169 (just the FW case will
                         set you back $125 - $150)
2001/7/14 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21797 Activity:nil
7/13    Slashdot's starting to get pretty lame, is there anything else
        like it?
        \_ There are many things like it.  This is, of course, the problem.
        \_ I like http://arstechnica.com. Far fewer articles, but more interesting.
           And the people who run the site are generally more intelligent and
           make more informed comments, unlike CmdrTaco.
           \_ More hardware oriented: http://www.anandtech.com
        \_ http://www.theregister.co.uk
           \_ The Register can be as witty as The Onion but it's all true.
        \_ http://www.newsforge.com --Galen
2001/7/13 [Computer/Networking, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21790 Activity:high
7/13    I have an offer from a company that does SCSI over fibre channel.
        I'm curious about the viability of this market.
        Who are the key players in this market?
        What competing technologies are there, and what are the relative
        advantages?
        \_ http://www.byteandswitch.com is a good SAN info site. SCSI over
           fibre channel is the FCP protocol; it's the dominant protocol for
           connecting storage devices on SANs. iSCSI is an emerging competitor.
           Brocade and EMC are big Fibre Channel players. Cisco and some
           startups are moving into IP storage. There is a lot of activity in
           the industry. Saying you "do" FCP is pretty vague. The downturn has
           companies cutting back on IT spending but it's considered a growth
           area.
           area. Data explosion and all that.
2001/7/8 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21735 Activity:high
07/07   What is a good and free program for Win98 for burning audio
        CD's? I bought an HP external CD-RW drive but it didn't come
        with any software. Thanks.
        \_ brand?
2001/6/30-7/1 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21687 Activity:high
6/30    what's your opinion on seagate hard drives?  also,
        athlon vs. duron, besides the caching issue, what
        other differences are there in terms of performance
        and quality?  finally, do you know of any motherboards
        that you'd recommend?
        \_ I had bad luck with barracudas and cheethas, other
           models seem okay. I don't know about the x86 stuff,
           I generally avoid it. ----ranga
        \_ If it's for a desktop machine, then the criteria I'd use to
           select a hard drive is it's noise level.  Seagate's new
           Barracuda IV is the new champ (as soon as you can actually
           *buy* one, that is) at 2.0 to 2.4 bels.  If you can't wait,
           then Samsung makes some that are in 3.0 to 3.1 range.
           If you're into overclocking to improve your frame rate in
           whatever first person shooter everyone is playing this
           week, then you probably want to ignore me and get something
           that spins at 14.4kRPM.
        \_ Check Tom's hardware for information about motherboards.
           The Asus A7M is pretty solid.  It's based on AMD's 760
           series chipset.  Don't confuse it with their similar, albeit
           inferior model based on the flaky AliMagick chipset.
           Seagate disks aren't what they used to be.  IBM disks tend
           to be very reliable.
           \_ Also look at the Abit KG7-RAID (ignore the RAID part), which
              has the same "north" chipset (AMD 761), but can hold a whopping
              (these days) 4 DDR DIMMs.
        \_ Who now owns Seagate (as in the company Seagate?)
           \_ a group of private investors
           \_ I thought Veritas bought them?
              \_ they only bought out one storage sw division from seagate.
2001/6/25-26 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21619 Activity:high
6/25    After years of having "Godel, Escher, Bach" on my bookshelf,
        I've finally picked it up to read.  Unfortunately, I'm not much
        Bach fan so I haven't heard the examples referred to in
        the book. Given that it has been around for awhile, I'd think
        that someone must've been geeky enough to put together a compilation
        of the music? Does anyone know of a CD set or audio file collection
        of the pieces in this book.
        \_ Just go buy Art of Fugue.  My favourite is still St. Matthew's
           Passion, but I am not sure if it was mentioned in the book.
           \_ pretty much everything from the book is from Art of Fugue or
              The Musical Offering.  You can get 2-CD sets with both.
              (and they're worth having whether or not you're reading the
              book).  -tom
           \_ [ Tom's comment deleted.  He knows why. ]
              \_ [ No, Tom, because you censor people. ]
                \_ yes, I do know why...because anonymous cowards like you
                   insist on removing any actual information that manages
                   to make it into the MOTD.  The comment was, almost all
                   of the Bach information in the book is from Art of Fugue
                   or The Musical Offering, which are available as a 2-CD
                   set, and which you should have whether or not you're
                   reading GEB.  -tom
        \_ Have you lost your Y chromosome?  Jaysis, yer such a cunt.
           \_ Perhaps one of the fabled sodan females posted this.
              \_ nah, the sodan femmes have more bollicks than this wanker.
                 \_ I just looked up this book on Amazon. It doesn't seem
                    that fruity. Is it any more fruity than say, The Tao
                    of Physics?
                    \_ I read part of it and thought it was good, but that
                       was when it just came out (back when I was in high
                       school?). I don't know if I would still find it as
                       interesting today.
                 \_ bollocks.
                    \- GEB is insufferable. ok tnx.
2001/6/21 [Computer/Theory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21587 Activity:high
6/20    Robotech DVD's released.  Bad ass.  Box set available with extra
        disc featuring the Robotech pilot.
        \_ fuck that!  I'm waiting for the Macross DVD set with the REAL
           voice actors and non of this "flower of Life" Carl Macek
           bullshit.
        \_ Fuck that, I'm waiting for Space Kitteers dvd's and Gaiking.
           Gaiking Space Dragon on DVD would rock.
        \_ I am Cyborganizer.
        \_ cheapURLP
           \_ #t
        \_ Robotech? Bad Ass? Surely you jest.
           \_ Yeah, it only created the giant fighting transforming robot
              genre.  (See, Transformers, Evangelion, to name a few).
              \_ my ass it did.  Maybe you forgot Mazinger Z?  Of which
                 Voltes V was the sequel, and then on to Starbirds, and then
                 on to Dynamos... talking 70s here.
              \_ Create the fighting transforming robot genre? Hardly.
                 Voltron for example was out many years before Robotech.
                 As I recall the same is true with Transformers. If Robotech
                 inspired the creation of the hideously bad Evangelion,
                 well that just another reason that it sucks.
              \_ man Gundam was out before any of them. Stop watching dubbed
                 anime, and watch the "real" stuff.
                 \_ Quibble over semantics if you must.  Macross (later
                    rebroadcast and munged together with two other series
                    as Robotech in the U.S.) predates Voltron, Transformers,
                    and Gundam.  Get over it.
                    \_ uh, Macross originally was intended to PARODY the giant-
                       robot genre.  there was plenty of giant-robot anime
                       well before Macross (Danguard Ace, Grandizer, Gaiking,
                       etc.).
        \_ Robotech, Harmony Gold, and it's progeny must be destroyed.
           Makurosu, ai oboeteimasuka, forever.
2001/6/16 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21541 Activity:nil
6/15    So I only recently learned that the Gameboy Advance is already
        emulated on the PC and every rom is easily available for http
        download. Plus, there are flash carts for playing these roms on
        the real thing, and all this stuff was available before the actual
        hardware was released. Does anyone else find this kind of disturbing?
        \_ You should be disturbed at your US-centrism.  The hardware's
           been out for ages in japan, and the specs for even longer.
           \_ the gba was out March 21 2001 in Japan. Ages? The first emulator
              came out in 9/2000.
        Does consumer software protection these days come down to "make
        the program friggin huge, cuz otherwise it winds up on every kiddie's
        free web page, and even then it ends up in newsgroups weeks before
        the retail launch"? It's enough to make me feel kind of funny about
        my 300+ CD warez collection. Is there really no solution to it?
        \_ Good for us.
        \_ The point of a Gameboy is (duh) to play on a handheld.  If you have a
           PC, there's little reason to play this thing.
           \_ Dragon Warrior 3.
           \_ well like I said, there are flash cart interfaces to the pc so
              you can play on the actual gameboy. I have my doubts about
              this anyway, people I've known with game boys seemed to just
              play them like it was a regular console, so they could play
              those zelda games and stuff.
2001/6/4 [Computer/HW, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21420 Activity:insanely high
6/03    Calling all PC HW gurus:  Anyone have an EPROM programmer?  Last
        night I flashed my motherboard's bios while at the same time
        booting the machine with crap loaded into emm386.  During the
        flash, the machine hung, and is now totally toast.  This would not
        be such a big thing if it could boot up to the point where I can
        try the flash again, but for all intensive purposes the machine is
                                         \_ "intents and purposes"
        a paperweight at the moment.  So does anyone have a device that I
        can load up a (hopefully) good bios image onto?  Needless to say, I
        only have a floppy disk with the image, not a chip that can be
        copied...  Or...  Anyone have a summer EECS lab that can help out?
        Never mind the fact that the motherboard goes for about $15 on
        ebay nowadays-   Even better would be if someone knew the magic
        trick to resurrect a board with a nuked bios.  The flash should
        have written out a copy of the old version.  I can see a file on my
        floppy by the same name, but with a 0 length, I have some (foolish)
        hope that the image is still there..  All thanks appreciated - joshk
          \_ "all intents and purposes", sheeze
          \_ I think you're looking for UCSEE, not soda.
        \_ would it be that much trouble for motherboard manufacturers to add
           some kind of backup mechanism to keep things like this from
           happening?
           \_ no, but is it profitable for them to do so?
              \_ is it profitable for them to have improperly flashed
                 motherboards repaired?  and if they refuse to repair them,
                 they've most likely lost a customer.  I wouldn't mind
                 spending a few extra bucks for a secondary bios chip or
                 or something.
                 motherboards fixed?  and if they refuse to fix them and force
                 you to buy a completely new motherboard, they've most likely
                 lost a customer.  besides, I wouldn't mind spending a few extra
                 bucks for a backup bios chip or something.
        \_ if the motherboard maker is still around you may be able to contact
           them and beg them to send you a replacement bios.
2001/5/29-30 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21387 Activity:insanely high
5/29    To followup on my previous thread on CD-Rs.  I tried four different
        machines:  1 sun u5, 2 laptops, and 1 PC and I still cannot read the
        corrupted CD-R. I'm screwed.  So are CD-RWs any better?  They're
        more expensive hence "better"?
        \_ No, they are worse for archiving. --dim
        \_ What brand was the CD-R? (Just curious.)
           \_ I used TDK.  Anybody recommend a brand that they've had
              no problems with?
              \_ Mitsui gold-on-gold. It's not the brand, but the dye
                 used. All dyes except phthalocyanine are unstable. So-called
                 "platinum" discs usually use phthalocyanine, as do many
                 gold discs. Do not use green (cyanine), blue (azu), or another
                 color (hybrid) no matter whose name is on it. --dim
                 \_ wow, that's one of the most useful pieces of technical
                    information i've seen on the motd in a while.  cool.
                 \_ depends who you listen to. if you listen to mitsui,
                    who has a patent for phthalocyanine, they're going to
                    say phthalocyanine is the best. if you listen to verbatim,
                    who have a patent on metal azo, they'll say theirs is
                    the best. http://www.verbatim.com.au/Media/93707.html
                    the moral is to not do stupid things like leave cd's
                    in direct sunlight etc. no matter what kind it is.
                    \_ Gold costs more to manufacture and has a better
                       shelf life in spite of the fact that silver does
                       have higher reflectivity. Most unbiased sources of
                       information do in fact tout phthalocyanine dye as
                       the best. Personal experience with it is also very
                       good. If you read the claim on the URL you produced
                       you will see that they claim superiority based on
                       "lightfastness". That is an advantage, but not the
                       whole story. Dyes other than phthalocyanine "move"
                       during the burning process. In short, there are
                       advantages to each dye but for archival (stored in
                       the dark in a controlled environment) you want
                       phthalocyanine dye and a gold reflective layer. --dim
                       \_ hmm, I'd be quite interested in seeing one of these
                          unbiased sources for myself. in my travels such
                          things have been rare.
                          \_ Do a search on the web. --dim
                          \_ Do a search on the web. Sandia Labs did a
                             test. MIT Library decided to go with gold
                             phthalocyanine disks (Kodak). JPL is using
                             the Mitsui disks I mentioned earlier based on
                             experience. Here's another study which touts
                             phthalocyanine disks:
                             http://ikrweb.uni-muenster.de/aptdir/aktuelles/arc
                             hivmedien.html . Believe what you will. --dim
                             hivmedien.html says "After aging, two media
                             types were completely unreadable--Taiyo Yuden
                             and TDK. These manufacturers use a cyanine
                             dye, which is less stable tha[n] the
                             phthalocyanine dye used by other manufacturers."
                             Believe what you will. You know best. --dim
                        \_ Andy McFadden's CD-R FAQ has a section on media:
                           http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7 -tom
              \_ Well, I've had no problems with anything except those "gold"
                 noname ones. One of those with my personal files on it
                 stopped being readable one day. But the weird thing was,
                 I kept it anyway, and months later tried it and it worked.
                 I've had good results with Imation and Kingston (phthalocy.)
                 but recently have been using Verbatim (blue azo) without
                 problems; azo is claimed to be as good as the gold/platinum
                 etc. but time will tell. Regardless, another possible issue
                 is: Did you write on the disc, and if so, using what?
        \_ http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_dye.shtml
           the entire site has tons of info
2001/5/28-29 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21371 Activity:very high
5/28    A year ago I backed up my home dir onto a CD-R.  Afterwards I tried it
        on a regular CD-ROM and all the files seems ok.  Now when I try to
        access it it complains about a corrupted directory structure?  What
        could cause this to happen?  Bad CD writer or bad disk?  And is there
        a way to recover from this?  Thanks.
        \_ If you backed it up on a CD you must not have cared about it.  I
           suggest you ditch the coaster and move on with your life.
           \_ CD-R's are fairly reliable, certainly more so than most tape
              media.  What do you do your backups on, troll?  They are
              susceptible to scratching, particularly if you write on the top
              surface with a ball-point.  They can also theoretically degrade
              over time, but they still should be better than most tapes.
              Have you tried it in different drives?  Sometimes a particular
              drive and a particular CD won't get along because of vibration
              or other issues.  -tom
                   \_ The other major problem with CDRs is that they are
                      exteremely sensitive to any sort of light. You can't
                      leave them lying around exposed to overhead light
                      or sunlight and then expect that they will work.
                      If you need reliable backups, I would suggest MO
                      or a external harddrive.
                        \_ hard drives are many orders of magnitude less
                           reliable than CD's, even CD-R's.  -tom
                           \_ An unpowered external hardrive will last
                              years as compared to the life of the ave.
                              cdr which is less than a few months. MO
                              is the way to go if you *really* care about
                              your data.
                                \_ MO is good (and recordable DVD is a
                                   successor to MO, not to CD-R).  But CD-R
                                   is pretty damn reliable; manufacturer
                                   claims are for 75 years, and I've never
                                   had a burned disk go bad on me.  Burning
                                   failure rates are fairly high, but that's
                                   not a longevity issue.  -tom
                                   \_ I'll bet you burn your CDRs and then
                                      put them in a cool dark place unlike
                                      above poster.
                                        \_ The back seat of my car in the
                                           parking lot doesn't count?!?!
                \_ Would you trust your data to one burn on a CD or the
                   typical 0/5/9 tape cycle where your data is likely to hit
                   tape multiple times and probably get a copy stored off
                   site?  I'll keep my stuff on tape, thanks.  It's easier to
                   manage, holds more, and less likely to result in a motd
                   post about "how do i get my stuff off this fucked up tape?"
                   Maybe you can explain why tapes are still in use if CDs
                   make superior backup media?  Everyone else must just be
                   stupid, huh?  In this case, he might get lucky and find out
                   it's just a CD device incompatibility issue, but then
                   again, maybe not.  I prefer to avoid "luck" with my data.
                   \_ The issue of the reliability of the media is
                      completely irrelevant to whether there's more than one
                      copy--you can do 0/5/9 with CD, too.  Are you really
                      doing multiple-level tape backups with off-site storage
                      for files on your home machine?  Of course not, you're
                      just trolling.  And I didn't say CD's make superior
                      backup media, I said they're more reliable than tape.
                      The limited size makes CD not useful as backup for
                      shared filesystems.  -tom
                      \_ More than one copy *is* important.  No one cares about
                         media reliability so much as they do about getting
                         their data back.  If one media type is slightly more
                         reliable than another but I have 6 copies on the
                         lesser media type, my odds of getting my data back are
                         better with the 6 copies on lesser media.  Tell me
                         you've got 3+ copies of each CDR?
                      \_ He didn't say it was a home machine.  He said it was
                         a "home dir" which is an entirely different matter.
                         And yes, it's easier to do 0/5/9 with tape than CD.
                         No, I don't do any backups for home, per se.  Files I
                         want to keep get tgz'd and copied to work where I do
                         incrementals/fulls/offsite.  But, oh yes, I forgot,
                         anyone who disagree with tom is automatically a troll.
                      \_ Interesting... what media do you recommend for backup
                         of a home system? (FWIW, right now my main strategy
                         is rsync of what I care about to several computers.)
                         --Galen
                        \_ the vast majority of home users don't do backups at
                           all, so if you're doing anything you're ahead of
                           the game.  I use CD's but if you have another
                           system that's probably fine too.  I just think
                           the first response was horribly ignorant.  -tom
                           \_ He never said it was a home system.  Read it.
                   \_ Dude, guys, is all that porn really worth the backup?
                      \_ hell yeah.  building up a good pr0n collection takes a
                         lot of time and effort.
                   \_ I'm with Tom on this one. -ausman
                        \_ Yup, that settles it.  This from the guy who has
                           trouble reading a dictionary and projects this
                           reading problem on others.  With friends like that..
                           \_ "To all the gossips and the liars, I will see
                              see you in the fires." -J. Cash
2001/5/12 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21253 Activity:nil
5/11    top shows a lot of "io wait"  How do i find out which processes
        are doing all the disk writing/reading? and is there a way to
        "nice" a process with regards to disk io the way nice does for
        cpu utilization. (if not, shouldn't there be?)
        \_ Some versions of ps will do this with the right options.
2001/4/18 [Computer/HW/Memory, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21013 Activity:very high
4/17    Now that those rat bastards at VALinux are getting out of the
        desktop market who is a reasonable alternative as a supplier?
        IBM? HP? Dell? Someone else? --dim
        \_ what was good about VALinux? there's penguincomputing.
           I don't know why you'd care, just install Linux on anything.
                                        \_ Just say no. If you must
                                           use PC hardware, at least
                                           install FreeBSD.     \
                                           \_ and deal with freeBSD?  fuck that.
                                              \_ Deal with what?  You're either
                                                 a troll, ignorant, or simply
                                                 deeply confused.
           what's so bad about PC hardware? it's cheap and fast _)
           hey, this is a good troll.
           \_ BIOS, crappy memory bandwidth, floppy disks, IDE drives,
              32bit PCI, ISA, bad power supplies, awful SMP performance.
              I don't think that I need to go on.
              \_ You do realize you can buy a PC with SCSI and PCI64,
                 right? SMP performance is partly a function of the OS.
                 Have you seen what kind of crap Sun is shipping these
                 day? Their low end boxes are IDE! --dim
                 \_ Sun is shipping this bottom-end server crap, the 280R:
                    redundant hot-swap power supplies with independent power
                    cords, hot-plug power subsystems, fibre-channel disk
                    drives, backplane has software-mirrored hot-plug boot
                    drives. 8MB cache. 8GB RAM. lights-out management card.
                    Free solaris. Now hook it up to the T3 external hardware
                    RAID array, GBIC cards, dual-ported 10K RPM FC-AL disk.
                    Max. multimode optical fiber length of 500 meters.
                    Two redundant loop cards per enclosure FC-AL circuitry
                    Two Power/cooling units per enclosure, Integrated
                    backup battery power, Redundant fans, Battery backup
                    for cache destage. Free Veritas. Yeah I agree its shitty
                    product. But your cheap PC will always be its bitch.
                    You can mass your million-man Red Army, but their few
                    precision jet bombers will blow you to bits.
                    So what if their products "suck", I'd like to take a poll:
                    if SUDDENLY TODAY, someone gave you choice of a FREE $1000
                    PC or a FREE $1000 SunBlade, which one would you take?
                \_ VA Linux sales were good at calling over and over and over
                   like clock work.  I always knew it was the first thursday
                   because that's when VA Linux sales would call.
                    \_ the SunBlade is a piece of shit.  The 280R, configured
                       with 8GB of RAM and a T3 RAID array, costs $90K,
                       hardly "bottom-end".  -tom
                    \_ You are nothing more than a shill for Sun. -ausman
                       \_ No, that's the top-end E280R configuration.
                          I just priced a $10,000 one on their site
                          (one CPU, one disk, etc..)
                       \_ A $1000 PC is a POS. A Sun Blade is not. I'd
                          take the SunBlade over even a $10K PC.
                       \_ The 280R *is* the bottom-end of the Sun server line.
                          It's a workgroup server. Max two CPUs only.
                          \_ are you stupid or just lying?  The bottom-end
                             server is the Netra X1, which costs an order
                             of magnitude less than the 280R, and is a piece
                             of shit.  -tom
                 \_ are you comparing PC servers to desktop machines? --jon
                 \_ Ultra 2, 2 300 MHz US2 Procs, 1GB Ram, Creator 3D
                    now that is a Desktop Machine (~ 2 - 3K now).
                    Or an Ultra 60.
                    I prefer real hardware to some cheap broken PC
                    crap.
                    \_ An Ultra 2 is a piece of shit these days. --dim
                       \_ Really? I guess that the 2 GB of RAM
                          it supports along with the 2 300 MHz
                          US2 procs are just no good compared
                          to your OC'ed Celli 933s. I'm so sorry
                          that your IO bandwidth and your memory
                          bus speed SUX, as does your SMP bus.
                          But I'll bet your GeForce2MX make up
                          for that in your "real world" applications.
                 \_ PowerMac G4 w/2x533 G4e's, 1 GB Ram, Ultra 160
                    drives, GEForce2 (or 3). Now that is a desktop
                    machine.
                 \_ P5-166, 96 megs RAM, 3 EIDE disks: 1.2 GB, 2.0 GB, 4.3 GB,
                    Matrox Mystique (the first one), OpenBSD, open air case,
                    300 watt PS, 1.44 diskette, 2 serial, 1 par, dual 10/100.
                    Rock solid!  Top that, kids!
                    \_ SparcStation 10, 1 SM61 proc, 272 MB Ram,
                       2 Barracudas, QFE, no framebuffer (serial
                       console only), OpenBSD CURRENT.
                    \_ p5-166?
        \_ Dell makes rather nice Linux boxen. Don't expect their
           Linux (software) support to be anywhere as good as VA Linux
           though.
           \_ Are you joking?  My research group ordered some computers
              from Dell and they SUCK.  We ordered the plane vanilla
              machines with Linux pre-installed and Dell installed
              unsupported video and network cards then dragged their
              feet when we asked them to fix there mistake.  I will
              never again by Dell.
           \_ VA has support? Surely you jest.
                \_ VA Linux sales were good at calling over and over
                   and over like clock work.  I always knew it was the
                   first thursday because that's when VA Linux sales
                   would call.
                   \_ I said support.
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