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2004/12/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:35502 Activity:moderate
12/30   RIP Artie Shaw
        \_ I wonder who the third one will be?
           \_ You've got about 120,000 in SE Asia to choose from.
           \_ get a fucking clue.  -tom
                \_ why? !op
                   \_ the idea that people die in threes is ridiculous. -tom
                      \_ [30-Dec:19:09 scotsman] Jerry Orbach, Susan Sontag,
                         and Artie Shaw
                         \_ Uhm, yeah, see, you can always find people to add
                            to your list, then conveniently stop counting
                            when 3 is reached.  Yer dumb.  Hell, I'm dumb for
                            even talking to you.  This whole thread is dumb.
                            You go to Hell and you die!
                         \_ so what?  People die all the time.  -tom
          \_ my dream list: kinney, tom, ilyas
             \_ What is wrong with ilyas?
2004/11/28 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:35094 Activity:nil
11/28   Kinney, if it wasn't for your girlfriend, would you still be working
        in Iraq?
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2004/11/16-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:34912 Activity:nil
11/14   The EECS network was down for nearly a day, but it's back now.
        Please let us know if anything is still broken.
        \_ yes, the politburo is broken. For the past 5 years, the
           politburo has failed to permanently squish a single person.
           It has failed to squish people who mess with the motd
           (ilyas), people who repeatedly use scripts to automatically
           censor words (emarkp), people who spread dangerous
           trolls (kinney), and people who fingered the CSUA network
           to death (kchang). Please fix the politburo, thanks.
           \_ I will gladly go, if every single fucker who messes
              with the motd goes with me.  Otherwise, up yours. -- ilyas
              \_ OK, it's a deal.  Get lost.
           \_ You're a lamer.  Just thought you'd like to know.
           \_ I thought emarkp used a script to read the motd, not edit it
              directly?
              \_ I believe you are correct.
           \_ I am going to lobby that the politburo squish people
              who use the motd to anonymously criticize the politburo.
              \_ I am going to lobby to kick your ass.
2004/5/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:30005 Activity:high
5/4     Kinney finally blogs: http://www.kuro5hin.org/user/ipex/diary
        \_ the CSUA motd was a blog a decade before the word was invented
        \_ how many other CSUA'ers blog?
2004/4/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito] UID:13460 Activity:high
4/29    Vote for your csua man of the award, I'll start:
        \_ closest to a divinity man: psb
        \_ grouchy old man: tom
        \_ tallest man: erikred
           \_ :) --erikred
        \_ most bitter man: bdg
        \_ most squishable man: kinney, paolo
                \_ paolo made great changes and contributions to csua,
                   why is he the most squishable?               -paolo #1 fan
                   \_ writing a script to delete the MOTD every 3 minutes is
                      a great contribution?
                   \_ being a twat?
        \_ most riced boy: dickylee
        \_ best motd troll: ausman
           \_ how do you know ausman is a troll?
              \_ Ve haff our ways.
           \_ ilyas
              \_ best != most prolific.
              \_ I find this interesting, since the only threads I start are
                 CS puzzle threads.  How can I be a troll if I never start
                 troll threads?  If I should be guilty of anything, it's
                 responding to trolls. -- ilyas
        \_ best mormon: emarkp [restored]
           \_ what makes one qualify as 'best mormon'?
              \_ He's good enough, he's smart enough, and goshdarnit, people
                 like him!
                 \_ Drat.  I was hoping for grouchy old man. -emarkp
           \_ The sad part is, I can't even argue with this award. -jrleek
        \_ most likely to get his ass kicked: dans
           \_ Been there, done that. -dans
        \_ most hoping for grouchy old man: emarkp
           \_ Yes! -emarkp
        \_ cocktease: aspolito
        \_ best motd locker: williamc
           \_ ED!
2004/4/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13260 Activity:nil
4/18    csua has a tradition of making fun of people. Take kinney, kchang,
        dickeylee, and many many many others for example. Who is our target
        now?                                            -bored alumni
        \_ How about root?
        \_ Give us your name!
        \_ Your jackal kind sickens me. -- ilyas
                \_ I believe our target is ilyas... There was a time when
                   csua was pretty vicious (and more interesting) and the
                   corrupted politburo members squished people like flys
                   but those days seem to be long gone. Anyways,
                   tell us about the stars ilyas!!!
        \_ Give us your name, and it can be you!
                   \_ Care to explain that motd-meme?
        \_ I said it before and I'll say it again.  I'll take on all you
           little snots.  One-handed.  Whoop!  -Fuzzy Bunny
2004/4/13 [Reference/History, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Computer/SW] UID:13165 Activity:nil
4/13    Which idiot reinstated kinney's account? Motd's been crazy in the
        past few days and it's attributed to the idiot who reinstated his
        account.
        \_ Behold! He has arisen from the dead! Now he walks the ancient land
           of Babylon, reporting divine truth. Do not harden your heart against
           the Kinney. /csua/tmp/motd.kinney has prophesied his coming.
2004/4/12 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:13156 Activity:nil
4/12    Sorry, I just don't get the idea of a guy blob. The idea of a guy
        blob is gay, and the idea of reading a guy blob is gayer. Kinney
        is gay.
2004/4/12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:13144 Activity:nil
4/12    What's up with kinney stuff? Wasn't he squished?
        \_ grep kinney /etc/passwd
        kinney:*:10956:100:Darrin Kinney:/home/apollo/kinney:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
           Nope.
        \_ Probably why he's not able to post his stuff himself.  Read the
           blog at: http://kinneyiniraq.blogspot.com
        \_ If you can't finger someone, it may be because they have a
           .nofinger file in their home directory and you are not using
           /csua/bin/finger*.  Put /csua/bin earlier in your path, and
           hopefully there will be less confusion.
        \_ let's squish him again.
2004/4/12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:13143 Activity:nil
4/12    Ok, I am not anonymous, and I will nuke kinney's stuff on sight.
        Pages worth of his barely coherent ramblings are not something that
        should end up here.  That it is about Iraq does not raise their
        usual quality.  What primarily pissed me off was the volume.
        Perhaps this is obvious, but kinney does not have a soda account.
        Aside from a link to his stuff, or a reasonably sized quote in the
        context of a larger discussion, he gets no real estate here.  This is
        the motd, not the motk. -- ilyas
        \_ oh, the irony
           \_ hi tom
        \_ Drivel from both ilyas and kinney should be nuked.
           \_ Hear hear.
        \_ look down at the passwd file fool
        \_ How can he be posting here if he doesn't have an account?
           \_ I was under the impression he wasn't posting himself.  I stand
              corrected on his account, however. -- ilyas
              \_ He should do what psb and others have done, when writing long
                 pieces, just put it into another world-readable file and post
                 the path. (We actually have /csua/tmp/motd.kinney too.)
        \_ Kerry and Bush don't have logins either, but their shit shows up
           all the time. Can I munch them too?
           \_ Yes, feel free to munch Bush.
2004/4/11-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:13132 Activity:high
4/11    Ya a fucking bomb went off 200 yards from where I was (2 of them).
        I had heard people got whacked but of course haven't head nothing
        on CNN, last night everyone just watched the report and didn't say
        anything I had never seen such silence before everyone intendtly
        glued to the screen. - kinney
        \_ huh?
        \_ Oh, my God, they almost killed Kinney! But seriously, where
           were you located?
        \_ could you seriously elaborate on this?
2004/1/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:29767 Activity:high
1/27    Lord, now Kinney is posting his drivel on pantsfactory.  It was good
        while it lasted.
        \_ You should kill him.  Hint: no one else gives a shit.
        \_ No one ever answered me about him being mentally ill or not.
2003/11/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:29650 Activity:kinda low
11/19   Can someone explain the existence of Kinney?  Who was he?  Why did
        he post such scatterbrained essays?  Drugs?
        \_ I don't know, but my last post which you(?) keep deleting reminded
           me of kinney too!  (and why do you keep deleting it?  Just 'cause
           it is so long? or because you are one of the ADM dupes? I see
           the summary was kept, is this a compromise?  Should i stop
           reposting my overly-long response to a dead thread?
           \_ yes please.
2003/7/31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:29199 Activity:nil 80%like:29183
7/30    Return of the Kinney teaser trailer: /csua/tmp/rotk.mov
2003/7/27-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:29153 Activity:moderate
7/26    Clean out your crap in /csua/tmp!
        Big files are fine, big files that live there for 2 years suck.
        \_ How do use 'find' to find all files owned by me?
           \_ find /csua/tmp -user phillip
                \_ But those aren'tmy files! theyre owned by some body
                   named philip!
                   \_ heh
        \_ Use philcompress!
           \_ Please, somebody, please: explain who this Philip Nunez guy is,
              and why does/did he write "compression" utils that move the target
              file to /tmp?  Is he related to kinney?
              \_ It seems very unlikely that he's related to kinney.  Perhaps
                 you should email him and ask...he's got a soda account.
              \_ i'll spill it.  there never was a philip nunez.  it's an old
                 inside joke that most of the people using it probably don't
                 know the origins of.  just start making the same jokes and
                 you'll feel like you fit in, too.
                 \_ REDCRAYON!
                    \_ B1TCH!N CAM3R()
                 \_ Those jokes don't work with cable modem.
        \_ Phillip Nunez for California governor!
2003/7/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:29099 Activity:very high
7/22    My market analysis: http://tinyurl.com/hp1s (YMMV)
        \_ kinney, are you an undergrad?  -pst
           \_ The Kinney transcends your petty labels.
2003/1/29-2/1 [Transportation/Airplane, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:27231 Activity:moderate 77%like:27261
1/28    Anyone have an extra ticket for the sleater-kinney shows in
        San Francisco next week?  I would do just about anything
        to buy your extra. - danh
        \_ Would you get my sheep off?  He's more used to getting his ass
           plugged and I'd like to make it up to him somehow.
           \_ Then give him a reach around. Geez, how hard is that? I know
              there isn's a man page on sheep, but try to use your brain...
              \_ I don't do reach around.  It's about my cock, not his.  I do
                 have an extra ticket if danh is interested.
        \_ Yes, please contact me to negotiate.
        \_ Nonono!  Contact *me* to negotiate!  I've got better tickets that
           the h0zer above.
        \_ My sheep does!
        \_ My sheep has tickets!  Will trade for services!
            \_ goddamn you are funny!
        \_ You should really consider my sheeps' offer.  He's quite serious
           about an exchange for services.
        \_ Sleater-Kinney?! yeah! I have 3 extra tickets! you should have
           asked earlier.
2003/1/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:27130 Activity:nil
1/16    Is there more than one free republic guy on soda, or has Kinney
        just changed his methodology?  Seriously, how many of you are
        there?
        I'm a freeper:
        I read articles when they're posted: .
        I hate Free Republic:
2002/7/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:25388 Activity:very high
7/19    I will now be writing my economic theories at:
        http://www.kuro5hin.org/user/ipex/diary
        Your comments are welcome. - kinney
        \_ well, at least you're coherent in those postings.
        \_ I think you need to think bigger, Kinney.  Why settle for a random
           http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/7/17/214310/914
           part of a domain when you can register your very own
           <DEAD>kinneydrivel.org<DEAD>!
           <DEAD>kinneydrivel.org<DEAD>! - kinney
        \_ well, at least you're coherent in those postings.-- kinney
        \_ amazingly you have people actually commenting:
           http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/7/17/214310/914 -- kinney
           \_ wow you're smart! -- kinney
2002/6/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:25108 Activity:high
6/15    villains come, villains go. dickylee, kinney, etc etc. Who's our
        favourite now?
        \_ not sure kinney is an actual villian. Like it or not, he's trying
           to post (well what well may be in hist mind) arguments and is
           validly looking for feedback data.  I mean, the motd still is a
           public forum for soda-rfcs.  Dickylee et al were just munging the
           motd.  Kinney goes tothe trouble to getting URLs, data, etc.
           \_ Paolo, the reason it's called 'kinneydrivel' is because that's
              precisely what it is -- drivel.  It's poorly formed, often
              ungrammatical, badly formatted verbose spewage of the lowest
              grade, without a single shred of data or supporting material.
              \_ The above post was too close to factual and insufficiently
                 opinionated to be Paolo's.
                 \_ incongruous behavior.  I don't think Paolo reads the motd.
2002/4/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:24385 Activity:high
4/9     Who are the following people and why are they hated?
        tom
        trevor
        \_  deleting other peoples posts makes you an asshole.
            deleting other poeples posts and signing your name makes
            you a self-righteous asshole, and that's tom.
        trevor
        \_ better known as tjb
        \_ Please see <DEAD>www.gelatinous.com/danh/trevor/trevor.html<DEAD>
           \_ Shit, this stuff is great!  Good for a laugh or two.
              \_ And then he gets weird and scary, and that isn't
                 chronicled. -geordan
        kinney
        \_ you forgot kchang.
           \_ Didn't he get exiled?
        \_ tom is current CSUA and Cal staffer.  He's here if you want to
           chat with him.
           trevor is some egotistical freakzoid who apparently got his ass
           banned from campus.
           I have no idea who kinney is.  I've only seen the name before.
           Hated?  'Hate' is a deeply burning emotional concept.  I doubt any
           of them are truly 'hated'.
        \_ kinney is not 'hated', he is mildly disliked because of his long
           rants on the motd.
           tom is not 'hated' either, he is disliked by some because of his
           leftist views and die hard RIDE BIKE! RUN LINUX! fanatisism.
           \_ Despite his posts, tom is actually a nice person to talk to
              in person.  My experience anyway.
           \_ I like Tom too.
           \_ To be accurate: I flame idiots just as much in person as I do
              on wall/motd.  The difference is, people are less likely to
              act like idiots in person.  -tom
        \_ Hey, why isn't psb on this list?
           \_ no one hates psb. - yapsbf
              \_ I don't hate psb - no one
        \_ What about nweaver?
2002/2/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Recreation/Pets] UID:23812 Activity:nil
2/7     If kinney were in prison, would he be a:
        bull queer:
        bitch: .
        J-Cat: .
        blameless victim of society imprisoned unfairly by The Man: ..
2001/10/26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:22843 Activity:nil
10/26   [kinney drivel moved to motd.kinney]
        \_ where is that file again?
                \_ locate motd.kinney
2001/8/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:22137 Activity:insanely high
8/16    Here is the list of motd fan clubs that we've seen:  they're in no
        particular order.
        * SCD fan club
        * psb fan club
        * (fucker) fan club
        \_ Dude.  (fucker) sucks.  How did this guy get a fan club?
           \_ (fucker) has a big following!  I collect everything he writes.
              He has humor and originality.  Not like kinneydrivel(tm).
              \_ Big following my ass.  He has himsel--err, you.  as far as
                 I know that's about it.  The only reason he compares
        \_ is this true? i've never heard of an ali or paolo fan.
                 favorably to kinney is that he doesn't post much.  That's
                 about the only discernable difference.
                 \_ (fucker) rocks yer ass.  get over it.
                    \_ LOL.  Riiiiiiight.
        * BDG (bitter divorced guy) fan club
          \_ Membership ought to be contingent on either being unmarried
             and commited to bachelorhood married but repentent (the fan
             club is there to help) or divorced and suffering. "Happily
             Married" and "Romantics" need not apply.
        * ali fan club
        \_ is this true? i've never heard of an ali fan.
           \_ goddammit. I wrote "ali or paolo", but of course that was
              censored. FUCKING BITCHES! BTW, ali, tx for not censoring.
              \_ i enjoy the attention. -ali
        * kinney fan club
          \_ moot.  he's posting his stuff on
             <DEAD>applied.demonics.org/~kinney/forum/index.php<DEAD> nowadays.
        * anything else?
          \_ yermom doesn't need a fan club
          \_ what about tjb?!
             \_ tjb has no fan club.  But there is a committee "to get
                tjb a soda account by any means necessary."
        * i had a fan as an anonymous coward once. fan, where are you?
        \_ Anonymous Coward rocks!  Keep the faith man!
                                         - Anonymous Coward's #2 fan!
        * tom fan club. -- tom #6 fan.
        * sky fan club, the Krazy Kriminal's Krew!
2001/8/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:22010 Activity:nil
8/4     Shut the fuck up, kinney
        (latest kinney drivel in /csua/tmp/motd.kinney)
        \_ damn... I just missed it.
2001/7/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21901 Activity:insanely high
7/21    MY GOD WHY WON'T HE SHUT THE FUCK UP.  Someone please sorry kinney.
        \_ what you shortsighted people fail to see is that kinney is
           this was the promised land one.
           really a misunderstood genius ala James Joyce. Is so called
           "drivel" is really a postmodernist stream of consciousness
           art form that reflects the harsh realities of the corporate
           lead globalized uber-rational technology driven uni-culture
           that threatens to undermine all forms of non-rational artistic
           expression.

                   SHUT THE FUCK UP WHO CARES JUST DELETE THIS CRAP
                           AND MOVE ON WITH OUR LIVES

           The motd by kinney is perhaps second only to finnegan's wake
           in its untouchable and ununderstandable artistic purity.
           When he wins the noble prize of literature (becomming the
           first sodan to earn a noble prize) and the english majors
           from wheller walk up to 3rd floor soda and beg the politburo
                    of the kinney cancer. how come paolo isn't squished?
           for accounts so that they can read /etc/motd.kinney,
           just remember I told you so!
           \_ Christ.  Now there's copycat kinneys.  This sucks.
              \_ Its supposed to be funny, or at least sarcastic...
           \_ Fuck, you know a lot of words. What is a noble prize?
              \_ Its like a nobel prize but reserved for kinney.
        \_ by the way, another huge drivel has been added to motd.kinney,
           this was the promised land one. he's up to ~640 lines.
           \_ Ha ha, fooled you!  That's not kinneydrivel, that's just
              something that I got off of Usenet (ba.general, I think).
              It just appeared at the right time and happened to bear
              enough surface resemblance to Kinney.  -- fake kinney collector
              \_ well, i have to admit it doesn't have the true kinney feel.
                 too religious, and not enough spelling and formatting probs,
                 and no repeated punctuation marks. but i trusted the other
                 replies. hell, i wouldn't put it past him to write that.
        \_ DMY
        \_ welcome to free speech, fuckhead.  why don't you go back to
           Red China or the CCCP or Texas or wherever the fuck you think
           censorship is cool.
           \_ go read /csua/tmp/motd.kinney if you want. welcome to world-
              readable files.
           \_ i have a better idea. let's keep deleting it.
              \_ auto-munging of the motd is squishable. dont get caught.
                \_ I wonder if paolo is now auto-deleting the reference
                   to the fact that he was auto-deleting the motd last week.
                 \_ it's not destruction of the motd, it's surgical removal
                    of the kinney cancer.
                 \_ would the [ motd formatting daemon ] come under the
                    auto-munging category?
                    \_ Past practice has been to only apply this to
                                \_ It's the motd grow up and deal with it or
                       those whose actions alter the content of /etc/motd.
                 \_ Wait, according to
                    http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/policies/motd "Making the
                    motd extremely long is not cool either."  Doesn't this
                    apply to kinney and his cohorts?
                    \_ there are lots of examples of extremely long motds.
                       for instance, get a political "discussion" going.
                       \_ Yes, perhaps so.  But posting the last 2-3
                          months of kinney's drivel is absurd.
                          \_ that is pretty dumb, why post it here when
                             there's /csua/tmp/motd.kinney?
                          \_ a several hundred line political discussion among
                             several people is cool; kinney discussing politics
                             with himself for several hundred lines is not
                             \_ so you decided what's cool and what's not?
                                my.
                                \_ It's the motd.  Grow up and deal with it or
                                   leave.  Your whining about it won't change
                                   anything.
        \_ 1) if you dont like it, dont read the motd.  or better yet,
           skip over the kinney stuff.  you are capable of ignoring stuff
           you don't care to read, right?  Good I knew you could do it.
           2) what makes you think kinney is posting that stuff?  I know
           of at least two people on soda who know kinney and could be
           just quoting that stuff from him. --Jon
2001/7/19-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21864 Activity:high
7/22    [ Die, KinneyDrivel(tm), Die ]
        \_ I guess this is Kinney drivel.  Only the 2nd time I've seen it
           not deleted in the motd.
           \_ it was deleted earlier but someone restored. this particular
              one is shorter than most. frankly, i'm disappointed with it.
        \_ does anybody ever bother reading kinneydrivel?
           \_ I usually read about the first third before I scroll far
              enough to realize what I'm doing... then give up.
              \_ First third? I get to the first "..." before I'm lost.
        \_ Next time before you delete the kinney drivel, can you at least
           do something like cat motd.public >> /csua/tmp/kinnel.drivel ?
           I've only been lucky enough to catch kinney drivel like once or
           twice. It's like archiving tjb's 61c tirades or kchang's twinkness.
           \_ yes, someone please do this; alot of people are curious.
2001/7/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21850 Activity:nil
7/18    [sorry boys, kinney drivel's gotta go]
        \_ heh.  You beat me to it by about 2 minutes....
           \_ other than aspolito and dbushong, who else cares enough to
              delete this?
              \_ I don't care.  Stuff like this is amusing.  -aspo
                 \_ are you saying you like his crap?
                  \_ I like laughing at people
        \_ thanks, kinney.
2001/7/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21817 Activity:high
7/16    Did the motd-nukers go on vacation? Retention seems up since last week.
        \_ Wait a second... was it really Paolo?
        \_ defcon.  http://www.defcon.org
        \_ paolo was caught deleting the motd every 3 minutes; he's laying
           low for now.
           \_ Paolo is a moron.  Paolo's reasoning: if people delete stupid
              shit like kinneydrivel, then I will delete EVERYTHING.
              Typical commissar thinking.
        \_ Didn't you see my constant nuclear warfare on KinneyDrivel(tm)
           earlier today? i think you can still feel the fallout.
              \_ how did you guys know they were by kinney? he doesn't sign
                 them. i can now identify this kinneydrivel on sight but i
                 wouldn't have known who wrote it.
                 \_ It's kinney.
          \_ I know this has been covered before, but why are kinney's
             posts deleted? Is it length or content? I personally don't
             like the posts attributed to him as they are quite long,
             but I just skip past them. Deleting them seems quite harsh,
             unfairly abriding kinney's first amendment rights.
             \_ You seem a little confused.  First amendment does not apply
                to WORLD WRITABLE FILES.
                \_ its the principle of the thing. if you wish to have
                   they you should not engage in censorship either.
                   access to a medium of free and uncensored expression,
                   then you should not engage in censorship either.
                   do unto others and all that.
                   \_ The definition of censorship is very broad, it means
                      'deleting parts of something.'  Proofreading would fall
                      under that definition too.  I prefer to think of deleting
                      kinneydrivel as proofreading the motd (proofreading for
                      semantics is as important as proofreading for syntax
                      and spelling errors).
                      \_ It's not only semantics, it's community standards.
                         interesting to anyone except paolo.  It's just not
                         MOTD posts tend to be conversational, less than 10
                         lines.  kinneydrivel is lecture, 20+ lines, not
                         appropriate for the forum.  -tom
                         \_ I feel obligated to say something about Tom
                            Holub, because, as the Talmud says, "Silence is
                            akin to assent." As this post will make clear,
                            Tom truly believes that he can make my stomach turn
                            and get away with it. It is just such wrongheaded,
                            nasty megalomania, mindless egoism, and intellectual
                            aberrancy that stirs Tom to let advanced weaponry
                            fall into the hands of repressive New Age bottom-
                            feeders. It may be soothing and pleasant for him to
                            think that all major world powers are controlled by
                            a covert group of "insiders", but his politics
                            always follow the same pattern. He puts the desired
                            twist on the actual facts, ignores inconvenient
                            facts, and invents as many new "facts" as necessary
                            to convince us that he would sooner give up money,
                            fame, power, and happiness than perform a brain-
                            damaged act. Even if I agreed that Tom's hopeless,
                            testy editorials were of paramount importance, it
                            would still be the case that I resent being exposed
                            to disaffected hell-raisers. Do I blame society for
                            this? No, I blame Tom. While this letter hasn't
                            provided anything in the way of a concrete plan of
                            action, it may help us focus our thinking a little
                            better when we do work out a plan. For now, we must
                            investigate Mr. Tom Holub's intemperate principles,
                            ideals, and objectives. I, hardheaded cynic that I
                            am, will certainly be happy to have your help in
                            this endeavor.
                            \_ Did anyone bother to read this?
                               \_ yes.  it wasn't worth it.    -mice
             \_ this is a self-policed anarchy. i think most of us don't want
                long, badly-formatted, rambling drivel on the motd. as others
                have said, the signal to noise ratio is pretty low for him.
                i wouldn't delete them, myself. but it's not just him, anytime
                someone rambles on excessively they get de-
                \_ people don't read the motd for SNR or useful technical data.
                   I read it for entertainment, and the shitheads who keep
                   deleting anything remotely funny are just that:
                   shitheads.
2001/7/11-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21770 Activity:nil 66%like:21641
7/12    !kinney
        - aspolito
2001/7/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21759 Activity:very high
7/11    Why do we bother to date stuff anymore? it all disappears within
        a couple hours regardless.
        \_ for the sex?
        \_ yeah, why does the motd get cleared so much quicker these
           days (or appears that way)
           \_ more intelligent people in the CSUA?
              \_ kinney!  kinney!  is the standard!  motd. poster.
           \_ more opinionate censors who don't like the free and
              unrestricted exchange of ideas. The intellectual
              content of the ideas is irrelavant, even drivel has
              the right to get posted and remain on the motd.
           \_ Its a conspiracy to kill the motd
2001/6/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Reference/Religion] UID:21689 Activity:nil 66%like:21055
6/30    [Oh my god, you nuked kinney!]
        \_ you bastard!
2001/6/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21642 Activity:high
6/27    Why does everyone seem to dislike this kinney guy so much?  -mice
        \_ is this kinney?
           \_ No.
        \_ It's not kinney, it's the fact that paolo posts enormous amounts
           of his drivel for no discernable reason.
           \_ um, i taught how to use pico. because i thought you people liked
              this "open-community" on the motd. I mean, he's actually not just
              popping his mail from soda like (literally) thousands of other
              alums.   So i guess you only like people _you_ approve of in your
              "community".  Well, like i said, if you can't deal with opposing
             viewpoints then i can move your logins to wintermute or something,
              and you can have a great machine all to yourself!  (it's not even
              x86!) - paolo
                \_ it's not "opposing viewpoints", it's hundreds of lines of
                   drivel
                   \_ drivel is in the eye of the beholder.  i've seen much
                      drivel here pertaining on what you ppl think are normal
                      social behavioral norms, re: women && dating.  I dont'
                      think it's wrong for that to be here, as censoring any
                      one person's drivel leads us to a fascist state.
                      - Now, if you want a fascist state, then say you want
                      one, and I will provide you with one - paolo
                      \_ Hi Paolo.  Kinney's stuff gets deleted because he is
                            \_ Ah thought brevity was a gaping cunt that
                               Jaysis took a pish in.
                         an idiot.  There is nothing fascist in this, it's
                         natural selection.  To not get deleted, stupid entries
                         must be entertaining.  Kinney's are not.
                      \_ Old motd saying: Brevity is the mother of wit.
                         \_ I thought brevity was the mother of invention
                               \_ Old motd says: Necessity is the mother of
                                  invention. Yermom is the mother of motd
                                  idiots.
                         \_ I thought brevity was the soul of yermom.
                            \_ wit has no soul.  yermom has no panties.
2001/6/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21641 Activity:nil 66%like:21770
6/26    Which one is kinney? http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~kinney
        \_ well, which one of those is most likely to make it as a physics
           grad at cal, and a econ grad student at usc?
           \_ None of the above?  They all look like losers to me.
        \_ are kinney and tjb related? anyone have a picture of tjb online?
2001/6/26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21636 Activity:nil
6/26    "kinney" is not logged in, yet how is he posting?
2001/6/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21570 Activity:nil 75%like:21563 80%like:21634
6/18    [ drivel from kinney deleted ]
2001/6/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21563 Activity:nil 75%like:21570
6/18    [ drivel from kinney deleted. if he wants to post to the motd,
          why doesn't he login himself? ]
2001/6/6 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21440 Activity:nil
5/6     ali and dpet, are you guys enjoying grad school? do you miss the
        $, h07 chicks, and the BMW you could've had?
        \_ it's not an XOR.  i'm in grad school, and have a porsche - kinney
           \_ You are so hip, kinney, using cyberlingo like that!  We motd
              writers cannot help but accept you.
           \_ But is it a new porche? And can you afford to buy a
              new one every year?
              \_ only a moron would buy a new porsche every year.
                 \_ I pity you, you poor pathetic slob. I bet you
                    can't even afford to buy a porche.
           \_ So kinney, what is it like having a 1 inch dick?
              \_ I love kinney! -- kinney #1 fan
              \_ Not everything is about dick you know.
                 \_ oh right, sorry... So what is it like to have a 1 inch
                    clitoris?
                 \_ get off my dick! - tjb
                    \_ sorry, was just keeping it warm and cozy for ya.
                    \_ well when it trails along for miles you gotta expect
                       it to be stepped on and driven over now and then.
2001/6/5 [Politics/Domestic/California, Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21431 Activity:nil
6/5     What happened to AmIHotOrNot?
        \_ they changed the name to http://hotornot.com for marketing purposes
        \_ who is this person?
           Administrative Contact:
              Eightdays,Inc
              James Hong
              229 Heartwood Lane
              Mountain View, CA 94041
           \_ That would be James Hong, who lives in Mountain View.
              Really, what kind of answer are you expecting? --Galen
           \_ That would also be jhong@{csua,hkn}, Cal EECS class of '95,
              one of the two founders of the company (other one being
              jimy@hkn, Cal EECS '94). What kind of answer are you expecting?
           \_ duh. - kinney
              \_ If we ignore you, will you go away? -- kinney #1 fan
                 \_ no, i'm bored and waiting for grad school to start in USC.
2000/6/4 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:18408 Activity:nil
6/4     Fugazi + Sleater-Kinney + Invisible Scratch Pickles +
        lots of other things going on, today, Dolores
        Park, between 14th and 15th and Guerrero and Dolores, SF, 1-6pm.
2000/6/2-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:18384 Activity:low
6/2     This Sunday, Fugazi @ golden gate park.  Some csua ppl are going
        email paolo for details
        \_ Que'est Fugazi?
           \_ the extremely lame band formed after Minor Threat broke up.
              Minor Threat was one of the greatest american hardcore bands
              ever, and fugazi is just another whiny alternative band.
              \_ who are you, so I can hurl shit at you?
                 Sleater-Kinney plus the invisible scratch pickles are playing
                 too.  AND ITS NOT GOLDEN GATE PARK. Dolores Park.
                 - danh
                \_ rent Donnie Brasco
        \_ lettuce not forget dj disk and buckethead
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